Good evening everyone and welcome to the City of Point and Beach City Commission meeting. Today is Tuesday, August 20th, 2024 and the time is now 6 p.m. Before I continue any further I'd like to remind everyone of our rules of civility and decorum. Speakers must first be addressed by the chair and not interrupted and not interrupt any other speakers public comment Must be addressed to the commission as a whole and not to any particular individual on the dius or in the audience insults personal attacks and Disruptions will not be tolerated and you will be asked to leave should you violate these rules? We will now turn to the city clerk for roll call Mayor Penservga's absent. Vice Mayor Kelly. Here. Commissioner Cruz. Here. Commissioner Hay. Here. Commissioner Turkin. President. Vice Mayor, you have a quorum. Thank you, Mailey. Our invocation tonight will be by Reverend Omelie Ash, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance, led by me, Vice Mayor Amy Kelly. Let's all stand for the invocation and the pledge of allegiance. Thank you. Let us rest our hearts and minds for a moment. Great and merciful God, we gather tonight in your peace. As the citizens of Boint and Beach fill this room, may they gather with open hearts and open minds. And we pray tonight for our elected officials, city staff, and volunteers. We ask that you give them wisdom, compassion, and transparency. And as they lead our city forward to be a home for its citizens to thrive, we ask that you hear our prayers, the prayers that are on our hearts and the prayers of this city and the prayers of this night. We are assured that you, God, are all in your son's name we pray, amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you everyone. Thank you, Reverend Ash. We're now moving on to agenda approval, additions, deletions and corrections. Let's begin on my left with Commissioner Turkin. Do you have any additions, deletions or corrections, Commissioner? I got a couple things, Vice Chair. I'd like to move up 10C. We got a lot of the community here to speak about this. I want to move up 10C. We got a lot of the community here to speak about this. I want to move that after 3C. I'm sorry, 10C after 3C. And one second, sorry, let me. And add public input. Okay, so 10C is discussion regarding the preservation of Harbiet and we are part. So we're going to move that to 3D, is that your suggestion? Yes. And then I think Chief Reader has a recommendation for moving 6 Delta, 6D to prior to public audience. So, would that be? So 3E? 3E, yeah. Prior to public audience so would that be the three E. Yeah To any my colleagues have any objection to those requests Okay, thank you Commissioner Hay do you have anything to add? All the same items I was going to move so I have no further very good. Thank you Commissioner Cruz do you have anything, any additions? Corrections or deletions to the agenda? May vice mayor. I believe we should have a motion to allow public comment on those because we generally don't allow public comment on those items Motion to allow public comment for 3d is there a way to Do those after public comments so they can speak during public comment? You know commission occurs you've said at many times people deserve to come here and speak their mind These people have taken time out of the way from their families and work to be here. And I think it'll be easier for the chairs well to separate the abundance of public input we get from public comment. Okay, I think there are several items in the agenda that the desire of public input. Okay, and we can make a motion to allow public input then. Right. But then we'll have multiple public. No, no. Okay. Call the order. Mr. Turkin, thank you. The items that are under 10a or 10 would get public comment when they're heard. Because we are moving them, they will get public comment to where they are moved. So we are moving 10D or 10C so that will get public comment when it is heard at 3D. 7D would get public comment by nature of it being under consent, we will just instead of doing that under general public comment, that public comment will be heard during that agenda item at 3D. That's correct. Correct. Okay. So since 10A comes before 10C, I would like to move 10A after 3C to be prior to 10C as it is in the original agenda and then I would be okay with the other changes. I'm not okay with that. Let's keep it held is. I think because- Or three F. And those ordnance is a first reading and we would not normally have public here at public comment or first reading. So we need to vote on the current motion and then there needs to be a separate motion with regard to the I believe 10 a that you want to move with as a first reading if you want to allow public comment so if we could have a vote on the bill. If you have a motion, we have a second already to hear public comment. So can we all in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? The motion passes. So we will hear them as amended. Now we can hear Commissioner Cruz your suggestion to move up 10a and to add public comment. Because we don't typically hear public comment under first reading, I'm not in favor of making that change. Because then I feel like that sets a precedent, that's my opinion. But I agree with Vice Mayor Kelly. Interesting how we're treating different items differently. And our things that are being heard heard that desire public input that is important I feel like we're putting one thing before the other so everybody leaves the room and then we have no time to have the public have this discussion Gold question making up make a motion I make a motion to move 10 a before 10 c as it is on the agenda and to allow for public comment. Do we have a second? Not seeing a second, the motion does not pass. Can I now have a motion to approve the agenda as amended? So move. Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposition? The motion passes. I can. All in favor? Aye. Any opposition? The motion passes. So can you clarify what we're doing with 10C and 10A? Yes, so no, we're not doing anything with 10A as saying where 10A is. 10C is being heard under 3D and 7D is being heard as 3D. And 60 is, we move 60 up to. No, we move 70. I thought it was 70. 60 was the contract for fire services. Oh, you're correct. You're correct. It's 60 that we moved up with regards to the village of golf. Yeah, I think the town manager is here. Correct. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Now we'll move on to informational items by members of the commission. Let's start with Commissioner Cruz on my right. I had calls with residents and that is all I have. Thank you. Commissioner Haye. And that is all I have. Thank you. Mr. Hay. I don't have any disclosure and anything like that, but I would like to announce about the black business pop-up, empowering black businesses and igniting economic excellence. We thank the sponsors of City of Boynton and Channel 25 and one or two point three for their sponsorship. So they're asking that you get your tickets, your free tickets and register. And the question is, are you a black-owned business looking to participate? And that's gonna be on Friday, August 30th, 2024 at 5.30 at the Cultural Center, at 125 East Ocean Avenue and Boynton Beach. And again, they'd like to thank their sponsors. There are some hand-out, I believe, that looks like this on the table back there. So if you could pick one of these up, and we would appreciate the participation. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Turkin. Vice Chair, I think the city manager had something to raise your hand. I just wanted to give a quick thank you to Sheila Tyson. She really last year was the inaugural black business pop-up event. She did such an amazing job and this year she pretty much took it on on her own. And she did a phenomenal job. So a very successful event. Look forward to it. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Dave. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Commissioner Turkin. Nope, I just want to say, you know, I've had a lot of conversations regarding the boat ramp and 10 A as well. And I just want to thank everyone for coming out. You know, it's good to have this public support and people to get engaged. And this is how we make sure that there's full transparency in our government. So thank you. And you know, on the topic of transparency, I think it's important to address a lot of these rumors going around with the little league. So if it's okay, I would love to ask the city manager and the city attorney about some of these things. Is that right with my colleagues? I would prefer to have a full council when we discussed an item of that nature. And so I'm not full of that now. Okay. Yes, maybe we can get an update at the next commission meeting with regard to the status where we have more information. Then or is there some information that you would like to share under legal at a later time? We could share. We've made some progress today. I'll let the city manager address on that. Maybe city manager report. We can include that. Sure. Can we do we need to amend the agenda to allow for that update? No voting on anything. Correct. It would strictly be an update from the city manager Okay that meeting happened to dead 2 p.m. A lot of progress was made good progress, and I think We we're definitely making headway. Okay, thank you. So if I can get a motion to amend the agenda to add Under 9c an update on East Pointin, Little League. All in favor? Aye. Any opposition? The motion passes. Okay. As for me, informational items, I have, of course, like the other board members have received emails with regard to the Harvey-Oir boat ramp. And I'll make my position known later on, but obviously I utilize and support all of the parks that we have in our city and will not agree to any sort of selling of any parks. I have made that very clear in other park initiatives that I have done within my district and I will continue to do that citywide. So that's my informational items. If we don't have anything else, same manager, did you wanted to get an announcement regarding Pioneer Park? No, it was actually regarding both Pioneer and also Harvey Oyer. I know during COVID a lot of the fishing charters and boaters, they experienced shutdowns of the park that affected their business negatively. We got the city clerk here, what we did, we printed out some sheets. So if you leave your name and information, we want to kind of reevaluate some, maybe some things that way we can cut you guys some slack as far as like some of the annual passes and stuff like that in the future. So, Candace in the back just raise those lists up Candace for me. Thank you. If you guys were affected during COVID, just take your time and just fill that sheet out. That way we can actually get a better idea how many people were affected. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on now to announcements, community and special events and presentations. We have a proclamation this evening, so if we can have that on the screen, I will read it out loud and please forgive me if I screw it up. Whereas the Lambda Alpha, Alpha graduate chapter of Omega, sci-fi fraternity Inc, has operated in Palm Beach County, Florida since March 15, 1980, and has distinguished itself as a public service organization for the community. And whereas the Sigma Delta Delta undergraduate chapter of Omega, sci-fi fraternity Inc has operated in Palm Beach County, Florida since December 6, 1995, and has distinguished itself as a public service organization on the campus of Florida Atlantic services to the community including health initiatives, mentoring programs, providing scholarships to high school seniors, street cleanup, talent hunt, Thanksgiving basket giveaway, and track and field events for students. And whereas the members of LAA and SDD committed to providing service to caregivers and seniors in Boyne Beach, Florida through its curb appeal project and whereas the members of LAA and SDD painted in landscape 22 homes of caregivers and seniors in the city of Boyne Beach and whereas the city of Boyne Beach, Florida recognizes the exemplary work that LAA and SDD have made to caregivers and seniors of Point and Beach, Florida. Now therefore, I am Ekeli by virtue of the authority vested in me as vice mayor of the City of Point and Beach, Florida, to hereby proclaim that the City Commission recognizes the exemplary work and service of both the Lambda Alpha Alpha Chapter and Sigma Delta Delta Chapter of the Omega Sci-Fi Ferturnity Inc. For their curb appeal project and other community service programs. In witness wherefore, I have herein to set my hand and cause the seal of the City of Point Beach, Florida to be affixed at Point Beach, Florida, the 20th day of August, 2024. Commissioners, it has been requested that we all join the organization for a picture when I present the proclamation. So I'm just gonna sign it and then we can head down. I just want to say while we get in there to take the pictures that this is an outstanding organization, the Omega's, and you've done an outstanding work here in Boynton Beach, you paint it 22 homes, and that's that's something to hurt us. We are now working on you becoming part of our adoptive street which we have some issues that we need to iron out which we will take care of that. So I just want to commend you guys to keep up the good work and maybe call me sometime. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. you guys, keep up the good work and maybe call me sometime. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. We'll join you down there. I'm going to sit here. I have a photograph. Yeah. Yeah. Sure, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going up. I'm going to go over on this side. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody looks very comfortable. I'm going to say right here on this side. Do you have a panel here? Ready, one, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. One, two, three. I'm going to give you a round of applause. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your humor. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. This might work. Oh, to the lights on. The light is on. Oh, you looked a little bit nicer. On behalf, as the, my name is Tony Robinson. I am the boss list of the Lambda Alpha Alpha Chapter of the greatest fraternal organization in the world. Omega South Alpha fraternity. I wanted to just say a few words to thank the City of Boynton, thank Mayor, Vice Mayor Kelly in the commission for recognizing us in this fashion. We are, we're committed to this community. We, uh, a lot of brothers here went to high school in this community, born and raised in this community and we come back to serve. Not only as a graduate chapter, but also as an undergraduate chapter who will get the opportunity to speak as well. But like I said, we're committed to this community. We really enjoy being a part of the community. We're looking forward to deepening the relationship with the council and with the city. And we're excited about the future. So thank you very much for recognizing us. We still appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. All right. All right. All right. Hey, how's everybody doing? My name is Keon McDavid Senior. I am the undergraduate advisor for Sigma Delta Delta chapter of Omega South Phi fraternity Incorporated. We would like to thank you all for presenting us this proclamation. And with the mentorship that we received through this program, we also pretty much showed that on campus to other students that we're able to do the same thing as we started our campus cleanup and were the first fraternity or organization to start that on Florida Atlantic University. So all of the mentorship we received through LA Square, it is translating to the college students on FAU. So thank you again. Awesome. Thank you so much, gentlemen. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to the next announcement, 3B, we were honored to have a book that was presented at the last commission meeting meeting and I understand that he is here. That's Tevin Oli. The book is ambitious, archie building a legacy through acts of the heart. It was written and released. He's a point in the beach resident. This book was recently released on August 2nd and is available on Amazon in the local book stores and we also, if I'm not mistaken, at the last commission meeting I know I did and I think one of the other commissioners donated our books to the library so we actually have a couple of copies of your book in our library and so I know that you are here tonight and I thank you for coming and just if you want to say a few words so please feel free. Thank you. Thank you so much Vice Mayor and commissioners for having me back. Thank you Commissioner Cruz for adding this to the agenda. My name is Tevin Oli. I'm the co-author of the children's book ambitious Archie. It's dedicated to my father who unexpectedly passed away Christmas day of 2022. And this heartwarming story, which was written right here in Point Beach, right here in Palm Beach County, follows community hero, Archie, who after losing everything and moving to America strategically employs a series of tools to rebuild his life, support a loving family, and become a beloved member of the community. So themes woven into this book include ambition, goal setting, coping with failure, resiliency, compassion, grief and loss. And my co-author and I hosted a book launch here at the Carolyn Simcenter earlier this month. And this book has taken really well with the community and also across the United States that it's been well received after 24 hours of it being published. Sort to rank number one on Amazon for most popular children's book, Hot releases. So I just want to thank you all for supporting this book. Folks can get a copy of this book on Barnes and Noble's books and Million, Ingram Spark, and the e-book is exclusively on Amazon. And I just take away this book really aligns with the Florida benchmarks for excellence student thinking, the Florida best standard. So it's an excellent resource for classroom discussions and family reading time. So if anybody is interested, send me a message at talkwithtevin.com. If you'd like more information on the book or to schedule a reading for your classroom, for your parent teacher association, or for your upcoming event, thank you all so much for having me and a happy to represent point beach with the success. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on now to 3C. We have a presentation by Alana Irwin, our sustainability and resiliency administrator regarding the Living Shoreline project. the Thank you for the opportunity to present this topic of living shorelines. It's definitely a critical component of resiliency in our community. So tonight I'm going to be talking about what exactly are living shorelines, the benefits of living shorelines, potential funding opportunities for living shorelines, and the benefits of living shorelines. And I'm going to be talking about the benefits of living shorelines, potential funding opportunities for living shorelines, and the benefits of living shorelines, the benefits of living shorelines, potential funding opportunities for living shorelines, some of the future plans the city has to incorporate some of these features into our community, and then I have some proposed locations of where we were like to pilot some projects for living shoreline projects here in the city. So what are living shorelines? Living shorelines are what we call nature-based approaches for shoreline protection. So basically what that means is it's incorporating what we call green infrastructure which is plants, aquatic life, and trying to incorporate it with some of the man-made features to make our shorelines more resilient. So what it typically does is it's made with natural materials and it can be used in combination with harder shoreline structures such as seawalls or breakwaters to really enforce the resilience of our coastline. Living shorelines, they actually maintain coastal processes because of how the materials are placed. They prevent erosion, which I'll be talking about some of the benefits a little later on. And they also conserve, create and restore the natural shoreline habitats that allow our ecosystem to survive. So this is just a graphic that I wanted to point out that living shorelines, they use plants and other natural elements, sometimes in combination to stabilize the coast. I'm not going to point out everything that's on here, but some things I wanted to emphasize is that living shorelines help improve water quality. They help provide habitat for fish and wildlife, and they increase biodiversity, which is a huge problem that we're facing right now in some of our sustainability efforts. And they also protect the shorelines from weather events like hurricanes and also flooding. So living shorelines are a critical component to help make sure that our low-lying areas do maintain their resilience when faced with some of these disasters. So some of the benefits, living shorelines, they just bring forward robust, sustainable and economically viable solutions that guarantee flourishing coastal ecosystems for future generations. So some of the benefits of this is that they add attractive low maintenance green space and focal points for people to gather. They reduce wave energy so they prevent erosion from occurring on our shorelines. They work better than some of the traditional man-made structures like sea walls or break waters to help make sure that our shorelines aren't being lost to events like hurricanes and flooding. They also reduce, actually reduce the stormwater flow rates in the event of rain. So we actually see less pollution entering our waterways because the living shorelines actually capture a lot of the sediments that would otherwise be released into like our intercoastal waterways or our canal. So they're very important for water quality. And like I said, they also buffer the effects of hurricanes. They buffer the effects of the king tides that season is actually coming up very soon with our full moons. So, living shorelines have the potential to ensure that our shorelines aren't being lost as part of these events. They also promote eco-tourism opportunities, and this is something that isn't highlighted as much in the sustainability world just because we're focusing so much on the environmental side, but they actually provide opportunities for ecotourism such as kayaking, paddle boarding, fishing. The living shorelines allow fish and other aquatic-like like oysters to flourish and actually improves our biodiversity and provides additional natural resources for our community. Again, it increases the shoreline stability and it creates animal habitat, supports fishing and it actually beautifies our shorelines. In this photo is an example of a living shoreline that was installed in conjunction with a sea wall in West Palm Beach. So this is a common feature that's actually being used in our local communities as well. So, there we go. Some of the potential funding opportunities that can come, there's lots of funding for various different types, whether it be for flooding or for hardening of infrastructure. So, some of these agencies do offer competitive grants for installing living shorelines in other related green infrastructure. So this is from FWC, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, NOAA, the National of Shiannican Atmospheric Administration, the U.S., Federal Wildlife Fish and Wildlife Found Service. There's also some other grants from Florida Sea Grant, FDEP, and FEMA through the Division of Emergency Management. So, there's a lot of funding out there for these types of green infrastructure to help support future projects for the install of these infrastructure. There we go. So, some of the future plans, first and foremost, we want to evaluate some of these areas that could benefit from installing living shorelines, and we don't want to just limit ourselves to our intercoastal waterways. We also want to look at some of our canals and lakes and our areas that maybe have water quality issues or areas that are prone to flooding. Maybe we can partner with the South Florida Water Management District or some of those agencies that own our neighboring canals to help improve flood resilience in those areas. We also would like to pilot a proposed project to assess the effectiveness of living shoreline, almost like a proof of concept, which I'll be talking about some of those locations at the end of this presentation. We'd also like to develop an outreach and educational program to help teach our community about the benefits of living shorelines, because when you hear living shorelines, it's not quite intuitive as to what that means, so we'd like to do an educational campaign under our sustainability program to help inform the residents of the massive benefits from living shorelines. We're also going to be working with our grants team to research some funding opportunities for additional shoreline protections along these waterways, especially in those areas that are prone to flooding, but we'd also like to look at some areas that have water quality issues as well. And we'd also like to explore some partnerships with community-based organizations, other municipalities, and some of the not-for-profits to help our expansion of living shorelines, whether that be planting mangroves or other types of aquatic plants that will help ensure our shorelines are stabilized moving forward. So I just wanted to point out just a few of these locations. These locations were actually identified and our climate change vulnerability assessment back in 2021 as areas that have a high risk for flooding. And you'll notice that all of them are city assets, all of them are located along our intercoastal waterway right now, and all of them do experience flooding during our King tide events and have neighborhoods adjacent to them that do experience flooding as well during these events. So our first proposed location is JC Park. Our second proposed location is intercoastal park. And our third proposed location is JC Park. Our second proposed location is Interco-Costal Park. And our third proposed location was Mangrove Park. So these are just some of the areas that we're looking at right now to see how we can launch a pilot project under the Living Shorelines program and ensure that we're preserving that and doing our proof of concept for these Living Shorelines in our community. Any questions? Thank you, Ilana. Does anyone on the board have any questions? I'll start with Commissioner Turkin. Any questions for? No, thank you so much for this presentation. I want to make sure my colleagues had a chance to see this. I think this is important, as we know, our marches the gateway to the Gulf Stream, right? So we need to preserve that. And, you know, Boydton is a fishing town. That's, you know, that's never going to change. And if you think otherwise, look around. And so, you know, I want to make sure that not only do we submit this effort to preserve the ecosystem here. And, you know fish and wildlife is partner with potential neighboring municipalities and the county and any joint ventures I think they can help you know maximize what we're trying to do here and then also mitigate the cost for the taxpayers. Yeah absolutely. That's it thank you. Thank you Commissioner Haydo you have questions? Thank you. I want to say a very good job well done. But are there any endangered or protected species in the area that need to be considered with this project? Yes. So we are actually doing a species floodplain assessment as part of our community rating system. So that will be presented probably a little later in the years we launched this project. I believe there are about officially in the state of Florida approximately 130 endangered species, whether it be plants, aquatic life, obviously the most common one is our manatees. Is a very endangered species that we're trying to protect here, but there are several other species that this will help with the biodiversity problems and ultimately will help ensure that their threats aren't being increased anymore. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, Commissioner Haye. Commissioner Cruz, do you have any comments for questions? Thank you so much for your presentation. You're welcome. Thank you, Elana. I think it's important that we continue to really look at ways that we can expand our living shoreline. And, you know, I just, I thank you for coming in and hitting the ground running and for looking at what initiatives we can do in the city and how we can, you know, apply for grants and partnerships to really protect our shoreline because, you know because we see it every day, we're storms, we're high waves, take out homes and shorelines. So we need to do everything that we can to protect that. And I just thank you for staying on top of it and keeping us informed. So thank you. You're welcome. Thank you very much. Okay, moving on to 3D, which was 10C, discussion regarding the preservation of Harvey-Willier Park, located at 2010 North Federal Highway Point Beach, Florida, 3-3-4-3-5, through a restrictive covenant. Do you, I know, Commissioner, turkey this was your item, but legal do you want to open this up, or do we have a presentation or from staff? State's decision of my office will be Deputy City Attorney's State's Wenger is approaching. And gentlemen in the back if you could just not block the clock so that I can see it that would be great once we get to public comment I'll need to have access to the clock so that I can see it. That would be great once we get to public comment. I'll need to have access to the clock. So sorry, thank you. Good evening, vice mayor, city commissioners, Stacy Langer, deputy city attorney. So before you this evening is just a discussion topic with respect to a proposed restrictive covenant at Harvey or your park The back up in the agenda reflects some discussions that have been have But basically Proposes restricting the property to be used as a public park from municipal purposes and perpetuity Providing for perpetual access to the waterfront and public access to the boat ramps, permitting compatible ancillary uses, restaurants, public parking, restrooms, perhaps retail, and prohibiting residential use of the property and perpetuity. Again, everything before you tonight is purely for discussion. We're looking for direction from the board as to what you would like us to bring forward in the future and I'll turn it over from there. Thank you, Stacey. Commissioner Turkin, do you have any questions or comments with regard to this item? I got a couple of both. So I think it's important to understand why we're all here, right? Since 2020, there has been, you know, you could say an attack or a significant challenge on the boating in the fishing community. We saw during the COVID lockdowns that the previous administration had restricted access to recreational boaters, commercial fishermen only had certain hours that they could utilize the boat ramp taking food off their table, right? And then that same commission and I'll say is nobody up here with the previous administration, the previous city manager, the previous you know board, then decided after those lockdowns to increase the annual fees for utilizing the boat ramp from $50 and try to move it up to $350. I think it was a 700% increase or something. That's crazy. In a time of COVID, a city's going to try to do that. I think it ended up settling at $200. And I think even at that point, that's way too high, especially when people are losing their jobs. The city's trying to dictate how commercial fishermen can make a living. And we saw that go on for a while. And then last year, there was some infighting. And the most beautiful thing I saw come out of that is now I see members from the Marina over at the Boyn Beach CRA, the charter fishing guys at Harvey Oyer, commercial fisherman, wreck boaters, all together in this room supporting one of the most important things. Right? And the reason we're here today is because we want to keep it that way. And there's a lot of rumors going around. I'm not wanting to typically operate on rumors. I'm going to take action to make sure those rumors never happen. And we'll tie into that a little bit later. So a lot of people have been reaching out asking me thank you me for bringing this forward and you know always do what's best for the community but I can't take the credit for this I don't want to take the credit for this I brought this item up because when the Harvey where boat ramp was redone we obtained grant money from Florida inland navigational district right and I was under the impression that because we had received these grant funds, that the park would be protected, you know, in perpetuity or forever, I didn't know what perpetuity meant till I made the decision to get in the government. And, you know, I was under the impression that it would be protected forever, come to find find out I'm having a conversation with the city manager in city attorney and they identified that the boat ramp public use would only be protected for 20 or 25 years. And so I got to say, you know, members of the community who care about this boat ramp. If it wasn't for these two sitting right here, the city manager Dan Dugger and the city attorney, Sean and Lamb, there could be an opportunity that that boat ramp gets sold to a developer or gets used in the way that we don't want to see. So please give them a round of applause. I know this means near and dear, not just the community, but to our hearts as well. And here we are again a year later, ironically, right before the mullet run. And we need to decide what we want to do, what we want to see there, I've attained a lot of feedback about maybe looking at a vendor to supply ice, tackle, little sandwiches, coffee, things like that, right? So we're here today to identify what we want to see there forever, right? And so I know there's some issues with the city code. We'll get some clarification on that, you know, after we hear public input. But I think it's important today to get the communities input and identify what we want to see. I mean, you know, hell, I was over there a week into two ago with some people slapping up some Wahoo and we didn't have any bags. You know, how nice would it be if we could just, you know, run over the little shack over there and grab some bags. How many times have we forgotten our ice? You know, or how many times we get there early? And, you know, we'd like a cup of coffee, instead of running down to the shell, we can just get it right there and I think it's important. And I think the same way that we service the links, the golf course that we have with the private vendor, the same way we did, I think with the beach to concessions. I think the fishing community deserves that same respect and that same access to just the convenience. We're not here to turn and proper anything. We just want to make sure that we support local businesses. We support recreational boaters and we support Boyton Beach, which is the gateway to the Gulf Stream. The closest to the Gulf Stream anywhere, you know, else on the Easton Seaboard. So I would love to hear some input. See what you guys think, see what my colleagues think. You know, I just think that, you know, for too long, you know, the fishing community hasn't gotten the respect that it deserves when it essentially helped build this town. Thank you, Commissioner. Harkin. Thank you, Mr. Harkin. I'm sorry. I do have a couple of questions for clarification. So when you talk about residential, right, in there, you know, it says, you know, any residential purposes, do we need to add lodging into there to make sure it can never be utilized for a hotel or anything like that? So, if that's the desire of this board, then further clarification would be necessary. As of right now, residential is defined as a use within your code, so it would just be a prohibited residential use if you want to go further with respect to lodging, hotel, etc. Then this could be tailored accordingly. Okay, yeah, I think that would be important. I don't think anyone wants to see a hotel there ever. And then the other thing I want to bring up that I think is probably the most important aspect of this is making sure that once this is passed and Corporating in the language that it would take five votes otherwise unanimous 100% Consensus in order to change any of this so that way you know what we do here really does mean something and it stays about ramp in perpetuity Thank you commissioner can Commissioner hey do you have any questions or comments on this item? When this was originally discussed, it was never the intent of having a developer come and develop Aurea Park. So I just say all we have to do is make whatever changes, documental fine tuning that we need to sort out and never happens. I agree with many of what Commissioner Turkin has said about this. And so it was never the intent. So let's just, I want to hear with the public has to say about this. But I'm hats off to the mayor, not the mayor, the city manager and attorney, Shana for fineness. So let's move ahead and protect in that park so that we don't have to re-address this in the future. Thank you commissioner heik. Commissioner Cruz. Do you have any comments or questions on this? No, I understand what commissioner Turgen is trying to do. I see it comes from a good place to help the community. The only question I have is online four, which is adding some compatible uses, which we already have public parking. So the part where it says, concessions, restaurants and retail. Does that mean that we could have restaurants and retail spaces in the park if we continue the protective covenant as it is now? Well, there's not currently a restrictive covenant in place, so this is just what's being proposed would be that yes, it's going to be restricted for public access and perpetuity, but that these types of uses could be permitted, provided that the zoning code provided for it and that this board or a future board decided that they wanted those uses at the park. So there was a proposal for let's say like a restaurant to come in to the Harvey or your park. Is that something that would come back to commission? Absolutely. You own this property. So then the public would still have ability to speak about it and such. Okay. Right. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Cruz. As for me, I kind of spoke on this briefly, but Harvey Order Park is a family park of ours. It's a park that we have used for many years and we'll continue to use for many years. And, you know, Commissioner Turkin, we started on this road of protecting our parks in perpetuity or at least to the best of our ability as this commission to pass it on to future commissions to make it that much harder to change what we deemed is important at the time. And so this is just one of those opportunities where we can move forward with, you know, with preserving the boat ramp for, you know, in perpetuity, you know, as we see fit at this time. I am interested to hear. I do like your ideas as far as concessions. I feel like that is kind of a missing piece there and anything that we can do to better it. I know that even with you know moving the fire boat and police boat and stuff there will there will be renovations to don't get scared when things do start happening at the boat ramp in the future with regard to some changes that are being made as it pertains to that. the . I'm going to start with the next question. I'm going to start with the questions. Don't get scared when things start happening at the boat ramp and the future with regard to some changes that are being made as it pertains to that. I'm curious to hear what the residents and the boaters in our community would this to public comment. But before we go, I'm just going to give you for those who are new and have not attended a meeting. You have three minutes per person. It's non-transferable. It's not a Q&A. The speaker must address the commission as a whole, and not the individuals on the day. Yes. Insults, personal attacks, disruptions will not be tolerated. And you'll be asked to leave if you violate them. I will ask because of the volume of people in the room to consider maybe having one person speak on your behalf or just limiting it so that we can get through with speakers if you have similar things that were already said. I want to, you know, obviously everyone is free to speak and I will not cut you off or just rubbed you if you do, but just to kind of keep the meeting moving. So with that, I'm going to open up this item for public comment. There are two. Thank you, Stacey. There are two podiums. if you would like to come forward and speak on this item Please Step forward. Thank you My chance it Melee do you have the oh Turkey do you have the clock? I gave them one. May I go? Yes. Well, I'm David Merker and I live at 8 Southport in Boyn and Beach. This issue is an emotional issue. It's an important issue and even more important, it represents the future of boy and beach. It's satisfying and it gratifies the people who live here now. But when an issue like this comes up, it's not just for the present tense, it's for the future tense. And the people here are showing what they want in a desire. And you as elected officials, just like when I was an elected official, should stop listening and realize the future, the future, the future. It's a future for not only us, I, but it's a future for our children and grandchildren. And I thank you. Thank you, Mr. Murkher. Applause. Mike McCrae. Oh, one second. Oh, nope. Now you're on, nope. Sorry, Mr. McCrae. It's all the above. Go ahead. Mike McCrae. I represent at District 2. And I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to go ahead. I represent at District 2. And I heard one of the commissioners said that this happened before I served before COVID. So I don't take responsibility for the boat part. But I do take responsibility tonight for here. to the both park over there. First of all, that park has been in Boynton as long as I have, and I'm 74 years old. And for you all to say that you all are going to do anything, whether it's a rumor or not, I heard the Vice Mayor say that she's not in favor of setting none of my parks and recreation. Please don't sell any of them commissioners before you all. We worked hard to get those parks and decorations. But this city, that park is a jewel here in the city of Boynton. Our parks and bricks are a jewel here in this city. And when you go out and start advertising, then you want to come to Boynton to live. That's one of the things that draw people to Boynton. Now, you already messed up the little league feel. Don't mess up anything else here in the city of Boynton. I'm glad you all are not going to do what you thought you was going to do. Thank you. It's hard to follow that one. Okay. Susan O'Air, Boynton Beach. Obviously I hold this partner and dear. Our whole family does. But just to address some of these things, I want to remind you, if you go to put a restaurant in, that means you have to put a grease trap in, you have to find sewer and water, we don't have that capacity. So look at this as a logical realistic way that you can't do this. And as I've talked to Commissioner Turk in the other night, I have new objections to a tackle store. That's what that building out front has always been, but it should be restricted to voting appropriate things. It should not be a restaurant, but if you want to have some sandwiches or chips or water or whatever, I think that's perfectly appropriate. But we should be looking at this covenant you're looking to make and take out all those things. There should be flat out even if you have to state it, no restaurant, no hotel, no housing, no selling this. And I think what you really should do is vote to make this only changeable by city referendum. Take you all out of the loop because you guys are too easily swayed and not you personally, but commissions as a whole. Thank you. Developers walk in with bucks and they easily sway commissions, especially unfortunately younger commission members who might be new. You guys are more seasoned now. You're not as easily swayable as you were two years ago and easily impressed. Well, let's face it, they walk in with money and it's impressive. So I think you really should look at making this voter referendum only to make a change to this and all of our parks. And let's see what else do I need to see on here. We have plenty of places to put restaurants if you want to do something like Hurricane Ali does with a you catch them, we clean them and cook them thing. We have all those CRA own plazas. There's restaurants in there. Maybe we should be looking at introducing more restaurants. You are switching the VFW over to a restaurant. Why not have a program set up with them? That way you have something for all these voters, but yet you're not doing it on the land that it shouldn't be on and I will say I person have seen manatees there. I've seen our little puffer fish that people steal and put in their handbags and run home and put them in their fish tanks, which is illegal in every county, but Palm Beach County by the way. And yes, I've gone to the county commission on that. And I would say that this is also, please make sure you're not prohibiting the use for fishing tournaments, Kiwanis and the fire department have used this forever for fishing tournaments and I want to see that continue on. But again, I'm Susan Oyer if you don't know who I am. And thank you for your time. Thank you, Ms time. Thank you, Miss Leuer. Thank you. Welcome. Go ahead. Your clock is starting. Good evening. I'm Captain Danny Barrow. I am the past FGA East Coast Vice President for the Florida Guides Association for 15 years. Past host of the Palm Beach's Gold Coast Fish and Report on ESPN Radio and the past southeast regional director of the Snook and Game Fish Foundation which is now the Angler Action Foundation. We've been doing research to I'm a local fishing guide okay I'm a charter guide here but I've for the last 20 years I've been involved a lot with research in the fisheries in this area which would be for the last 20 years, I've been involved a lot with research in the fisheries in this area, which would be for the last 20 years researching the Lake Worth Lagoon fishery out of that park. And we're endorsed by FWC, which is the Florida Wildlife Commission. Thus, proven this park is more than just boat ramp. And first off quickly thank you all for even having this discussion. Because it's scary, I mean granted, yeah the park's there and it's always been there. But those two little words make a big difference when it's on paper that locks it in and says look, you just can't be sold. I agree with Susan, finally on some, no restaurants, please. So anyway, with that said, thank you for having this discussion that could lead to a yes vote on a restrictive covenant. And if correct me if I'm wrong about the name of the boat ramp, that park, if I'm correct, it's Harvey E. Euer Jr. Boat Club Park. If I'm correct, everyone calls it Harvey E. or Park, and I was to know that it was Harvey E. or Junior Boat Club Park, you might want to look into that for paperwork reasons, okay, for legit, for legal reasons. So that the park can stand forever as a recreational purposes as well as educational purposes. Oh there's revenue to be made at that park. You guys are leaving money sitting on the table. Just like Susan said, that little building there out front can be a small tackle shop. Small tackle shops can produce big money because going out of that boat ramp the majority of these boats on the weekends are guys that fish offshore and they always forget Rig Balehu and they come pre-packaged and you can probably get them for $8 and sell them for $16 to double your money. Okay? Look this is how well it's called key stoning this is how it's done in the real world. I'm trying to run out of time here. The city of Okotobi, out in Okotobi city, they've got a giant ice machine 24 hours a day, credit card. You walk up to that thing. At 4 in the morning when you're headed to Lake Okotobi to fish for croppy in the middle of the winter, you can get all the ice you want at that machine. They get that ice for a dollar a bag. They sell that ice for $3 a bag. You guys are leaving money sitting on the table, okay? So there's revenue to be made right there with ice machines, tackle things like that. Thank you, sir. Sorry, your time is up, sorry. I was just gonna get into praising you guys. I know, I'm sorry. Thank you for your time. Feel free you can also email in any additional comments. One more minute. No, you're not. Thank you very much. He's representing 23 people like you ask. No, no, no, no, no, but you can email in and we'll add your other comments to the record. Thanks. You're welcome. Good evening. My name is Barbara. I read. I just want to point out that the boat people may not realize that they're here for the same reason that the little league people are here. The city changed the land development regulations in May of last year to allow private industry on our public parks. If you truly want to stop having private industry on your public parks, the LDRs need to be amended and changed. That is the only thing that's going to protect you from having a restaurant at Ocean Front Park and having Ocean Front Park privatized or any other park in the city is urging the City Commission to amend the LDR's back and protect our public parks, please. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anyone else for public comment? Please approach the podium. Thank you, sir. Hi. My name is Clay Bran. Captain Clay. I grew up here. I've been using the point beach boat ramp, the Harvey area since I grew up here. I've been using the point beach boat ramp, the Harvey area since I was a kid. And I hope that my kids and my grandkids will be able to use it. I've heard about putting restaurants there. I think that's a horrible idea. On a really busy day, the boat people do not have place to park. Having a restaurant there where people sit there for hours is not an option. Even thinking about putting it up for anything but just a boat ramp for everybody in Boynton, they've been using it for generations, is really a bad idea. And whoever thinks that that's a good idea is not thinking about everybody in Boynton. When everybody comes to vote, I hope they look to see who is okaying this type of thing and making sure that they get voted out of office. This is a very, very serious thing to think that it's okay for even a minute, even putting it on papers. An option is ludicrous. The fact that I'm even having to stand here and defend this is insane. You're all voted into office, you're doing a great job, but this is a huge mistake. And if this should ever be brought up again, everybody here should look into it, get on social media, find out who's in charge of even thinking about it and be voted out of office. Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else from the audience I would like to speak on this item? Seeing none, I don't have anyone online for public comment. So public comment on this item is now closed. I do have one quick follow-up question, Dacey, for you. So, and then after that then I will do one time- I bet he wanted to speak. So if anyone wants to speak go ahead and come up online before we finish discussion. Okay, I will reopen public comment, but I had closed it. If there is anyone else in the audience who would like to speak on this item, please line up on either side of the podium so that you don't get missed. I don't want to miss anyone. Please come forward to the podium. State your name for the record and you can start when you're ready. I am Betty Roe. Some of you may know me. I'm going to go to the park. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I'm Betty. I talk about is the fishing pier. Is there anything planned? I hear yes, no, yes, no. It's free family fishing fun. I don't understand why this has been passed up. It has been part of the park, and I wish it would come back. You also had taken out the children's playground there. I have no idea why. But that was pretty much one of the things I just wanted to get to talk about. We did have a restaurant there, and I'm sure some of you know it. Maurice, thank God. We got rid of that. A lot of you, I was there when they did the destruction and the city actually paid $250,000 for the liquor license to get rid of it. And about that's all I need to say, but thank you very much for listening to us. And I appreciate it, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He'll be short and sweet. Cindy Falco de Carrado, my question was, they charged $200 to go, if you have a boat, so if somebody wants, is it free to the public? I'm sorry, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry taxpayers dollars pay for. I'm just throwing that out there because I don't know and I'd like to get a boat one day, but I sure don't want to be paying $200 to utilize the dock. Thank you. Thank you. Next person, please approach the podium. Next person, please approach the podium. State your name for the record and you have three minutes to start when you're ready. I'm Nathaniel Swanson. I had a hunt lionfish out there, so I tried to help the, you know, everyone really. But I just, I heard it was possibly up for debate for like being gone. And I'd just say if that was the case, it would be inundated at all the other ramps. And it wouldn't really be feasible. So it's really not a thing that could even happen. I mean, plus, everyone who comes to move to this area wants to have a boat ramp to get to the ocean. And it's way more important in the long run to have options to get to our ocean than it is to put anything else there. So that's pretty much it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So are you wanting to speak? Please approach the podium. I'm going to be a member of the Board of Trustees. Thank you. So, are you wanting to speak please approach the podium, state or name for the record and three minutes start when you're ready? All right. I'm Noor Khan. I've loved invoiting beach since 2009. We love the boat ramp. We are very amateur fishermen. I wish I caught more. But we're already limited with parks in the city of Boenbeach. I think it would be a terrible thing. And while we're talking about the boat ramp, can we add possibly dredging that thing to the agenda? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, say your name and go ahead. My name is Chip Sheen. I've been hearing Boenbeach. Thank you. Oh, say your name and go ahead. My name is Chip Sheehan. I've been here and been here since 1999. First thing is I don't know how this ever would come about. I bought my house because of this boat ramp where I live. And I think a lot of people here did, you know, did too. And it's to have what we have, the park is from the, what we have with the events and the firefighters tournaments and back when we just have the colonists. And to have a spot like that that's directly across from the inlet. Whoever would have ever thought to come up with an idea to either sell it or get rid of it is just beyond me. But the other other thing is if there's a possibility to judge it a little bit, it would be awesome. And thank you for all your guys services. Thank you, sir. Next person, please, the police, the podium. Stay your name for the record and start when Terkhan's ready to push the button. Go ahead. Thank you. Hi, my name is Bill Reicheter and I'm actually running for State house in this district. I think it's very important that the commission really listens to everything that the public has said today, because you can privatize so many things, and this is one thing that would be devastating to privatize. And another thing is we need to bring the taxpayer dollars back so we can help fund the dredging, and we can help do things. So when I get to the state house, I will be supporting these fishermen and the commercial industry. Because it's very important that we preserve it. We can't take these things away. And thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Is there anyone else who would like to speak in the audience? Anyone approach the podium? No one? Okay. So public comment is now officially closed. Anyone else? No. Okay. Thank you. Stacy, I did have one question that was brought up and I wanted to be answered. Is there a way in doing this that we could require it to go to a referendum. Is that something? I mean, I'm just, I'm asking so that we know, or is it something that really because of the nature of it has to stay at how it is? It's not for sale. Ha ha. the commission. It is a city on park and typically when you have city on property the right to control that property resides with the commission. So I appreciate that it would be great to make this a referendum item but that is really not something that is appropriate. I think if the commission desires to make it a unanimous vote then that is appropriate but my legal recommendation is it is not something you would require for referendum because you have to wait for an election year, which is every year in some cases, but sometimes we go a long time without an election and that would have to be something that would be on the ballot. Putting something on the ballot, or remember, cost a lot of money about $50,000, mainly. Yeah. So that is something my legal advice would be, I just don't think that's feasible for the city. Thank you. I know, Commissioner Terkin, you wanted to hear some of the recommendations from public comment. And I know also, I mean, all of us wanted to hear what the public had to say as far as what they would like to see as far as tackle shops and things like that so I wanted to just circle back with you and see if you had any final comments on this. Yeah the the dredging thing I'm glad someone brought that up because I I annoy Andrew all the time to see where that's at and I think for the public I think it'd be good to chime in after our discussion to see where we're at with that. That's a county thing, Army Corps of Engineers. And so maybe we all go to the county commission next and fill up that room, get this dressing done. And so I want to acknowledge that. And the question I have as far as the zoning goes Can there be it can we slash restaurant and keep a concession? So if that there is a possibility to have you know a little tackle store there, you know with little you know Jim Dean sausage biscuits or coffee whatever, you know They can still you know provide that for the community along with ice and and whatnot because if we vendor an ice out that would be privatizing. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. We're happy to put together whatever it is that this board directs. Okay. So maybe we can slash restaurant keep concession is that okay with with the zoning. Adam do you know? Good evening Commissioner Turkin and commissioners. We would have to take a look at the permitted uses within the recreational zoning district. So if we want to do something a little bit more restrictive, it would probably be more appropriate to do so via the restricted covenant. Because any permitted uses or insular uses that are currently in the recreational zoning district would apply citywide. Right. Okay. Perfect. So for instance, like at Little League Park we have concessions, we have that availability, we have it at other parks. Right. It's something that could be done at the boat ramp weather, when the, you know, when the restricted covenant is in place, it wouldn't affect that. Is that correct Adam. Okay, thank you. Perfect. Yeah. No. I just wanted to clarify that. You know, I think we heard the public speak slash the restaurant add in no lodging, no hotel, no potential landslop or for something else. Get that in there and make this as strict as possible. You know, and I just want to really thank the community for coming out and support of this. You know, and I just want you guys all to know, we're not out of the woods yet. We're not voting on this yet. Our staff's going to draw this up. And then that vote will hopefully come in the next few agenda items, right? And, you know, I just want to make sure everyone remembers last year, there's a small group of people that weren't in the fishing community that were coming after the commercial fisherman and trying to restrict their businesses and take food off of their table. And now we're here because the city manager had identified a vulnerability in this that left the boat ramp open. And what we've seen over the last week or so is an attack on this guy who has served this community for 20 years as a police officer and the police athletic lead, making sure our youth stays out of trouble. He went overseas and a global war on terrorists and served in the army, you know, as a young man. And, you know, our mind you, the same servant in the army, you know, as a young man. And, you know, our mind you, the same little group of people, you know, and this isn't the fishing community, whether it's char captains wreck, are conspiring, and some of those people may be on this diet. So do not lose sight and make sure you pay attention. Because if we don't have people who are built to serve in this government things like this will happen. And there's one thing I've learned from the city manager Dan Dugger and Andrew Mack at Temple and really all of our staff they live to serve this community. They put in 60 hours, 70 hours, you know, you know, a week, you know, to support what we're trying to do here. You know, disagreements are natural. We're not always going to agree on things. But, you know, we got to remember we're one team. We're working towards the same goal. And that's the having equitable and safe and prosperous community for all people and all walks of life. You know, I can say that, you say that for myself, I'm committed to making Boyton Beach greater. And I just wanna thank my colleagues, staff, the city manager for their dedication to this community. And we need to stay unified and we need to stay united because a house divided cannot stand. And so we need to make sure that we support each other and we build the people up. Because it's not about me, it's not about, you know, another commissioner, you know, or the city manager, or the city attorney, it's about the community. So, again, I just want to give credit where it's due for finding this loophole. Because, you know, an alternate reality could be three, four years down the road. You get elected officials in like Ms. Oyer had mentioned, you know, and someone's salivating and tried to develop this park. So again, thank you city manager for catching this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Fishing peer Andrew, I know there's been discussion on that. Maybe when we can identify an update for the dredging, we can talk on the fishing peer too. Great. Thank you. Commissioner Hay, do you have any comments, any additional comments before we close this room? Well, without rehashing everything, I do not want to see hotels and motels stores of that type except maybe the tachy shop being revitalized but as someone you were stating about a few people changing things. Well there's a few people that are sitting up here on those diaries and I've been around for quite a while and I've seen encouragement and I'll leave it at that. So with that being said, you could easily come up with a 5.0 to make those changes and go in a direction that the citizens do not want. And so for me at this stage of the game, I would say let the citizen decide and go for a referendum. I understand what legal is saying, but policy is made to have exceptions and this is one of them. This is a major project here. This is not something I grew up in Derri Beach, but I've been here for 54 years in Boynton. And I've seen many things change with the 5.0. 5.0 does not always make it right. But most times when your citizens vote for it, you're going to get it right. Because this is your city, this is your park, this is where you make a living, this is where you have recreation with your families. So for me, I would take it as a referendum if it ever comes up again. Preferably we can put the words so that it never comes up. But if it does, you should decide. Not the five people sitting up here. Thank you, Commissioner Haye. Commissioner Cruz, sir, any other comments? I'll just go comments before we close this out. No, just as the rest of the board stated earlier, the people have spoken. They've stated that they don't want a restaurant, no hotel, no housing, no retail, but yes to a concession standard tackle shop, which would be appropriate in the Harvey Oyer Park to serve the boaters and the residents that come into that area. So to follow the well of the people, I would support those parameters. And I would support Commissioner Have, there needed to be a change. I would support letting the people make that decision as well. Thank you. Thank you. I agree with the consensus of the board. I think we know, I think you have enough direction as far as how to move forward. Correct. Okay. I as far as although I understand the request for referendum, I side on the with legal in that we really should not be sending our own property to referendum, but maybe they can find another way where we can add some other parameters to make it a little bit stricter so that it doesn't have to, so that it is further protected, but that we don't have to put those type of restrictions because I think that then we open up a can of worms. So that's my position on that. Obviously I am in favor of moving forward with the other conditions. I think Stacy, do you have enough direction from the board? Yes, I only had one request for clarification. When Commissioner Cruz just summarized, she said no retail. And I want to make sure that I get that direction correct. So a tackle store would be a sort of retail. So I think we- Do we specify a tackle store like the people stated or are we looking at a different type of retail? Marine industry related retail. Marine recreational fishing really retail. My only concern is a tackle shop, you know, do we have something in mind. Is it is it doing pre-prepared food? Is it making food? Does that make it a restaurant? What if it's selling buffs or hats? Then does that make it retail? Let Stacy and I come up with something perfect. I'm gonna research the legal issue with regard to the referendum I just want to dot my tease and cross my eyes. Whatever the commission but let me do legal research to that and if it is something that can be done then we will you know if there is a consensus I've heard from two commissioners I think we still need to heard with here from commissioner Turkin regarding referendum. Yeah I think we still need to heard with here from Commissioner Turkin regarding referendum. Yeah, I think we do both. I think first we put a step where if you even want to talk about doing anything, takes five votes and then it would have to go to referendum. So then we do both. We have an overlap and we make this as strict as possible. If that's a possibility. Yeah, so with regard, just with regard to the referendum issue, I actually just sent a message to a lawyer that we work with that I just want to double check because obviously we don't want to create something that is not valid, right? Because then that gets rid of all the work. And so I just want to make sure that it's legally feasible. Right. Thank you. The next time, Dutch eyes and cross-chities. Mm-hmm. Yes, sir. I'm going to clarify not next time, from now on. From now on. From now on, make sure we're doing that. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Stacey. And we're moving on to three, E, which is six, which was six D. And that is proposed resolution number R24183 approving an interlocal agreement between the city of point and beach on the village of golf for the provision of fire rescue and EMS services. This was moved up because as I understand it the city manager for the village of golf is here. Chief Bruder you're making this presentation so you have the floor. Thank you. Yes, good evening everyone. Hugh Bruder fire chief, director of fire and EMS. I want to thank you all, Vice Mayor and Commissioner Staff for moving this item up, because we do have the village of Gulf Manager here. I just want to take a quick second just to say how excited we are. And to have these relationships with contract cities and be able to provide service is one thing. But to be able to provide world class top-notch service at a fair price is another thing. So I'm very proud of this contract. I'm very proud of the fact that it's going to extend our relationship with Village EGOL for another 10 years. And I'd like to turn it over to the Village Manager Christine Throor Schinner, who would like to comment more. So thank you so much and then I'll be available for questions if you need to thank you chief Thank you chief vice mayor commissioners on behalf of Cementer and my old dear friend from the city west Palm Beach On behalf of mayor Hamilton and the entire village council for the village of golf We really do appreciate the willingness of chief breuder and his team to work with us on this. Our relationship with you actually began in 1990. One. So we're going on 33 years of you providing services to your tiny little neighbor to the west. Our population is less than 300, but we're an important community here in Palm Beach County. We've been in existence since 1957. And we're proud of our little community. So I can't thank Chief Bruder enough for his support, the responsiveness of your fire marshal when it comes to building plan review and inspections. Your paramedics are beyond a claim. Your firefighters are fantastic. Thank God I haven't had a fire in the village. But the hazmat team has had to respond to some things on our behalf and our shopping center at Woolwright and military So we are just absolutely grateful that you are willing to do this again and we're happy to continue our partnership Thank you so much for coming Does anyone have any questions for chief breeder on this item? If not, can we have a motion to approve? 16. Motion to approve. I just want to make a quick comment. I just want to thank the Chief for working on this and bringing in continuing to have this contract for another 10 years. It's important for us to have outside contracts for our fire department and health bring in revenue, but also it helps support nearby municipalities. So thank you for staying on top of your game. Thank you so much. I'll suck in that motion. Thank you, sir. You, Sean, because this was a consent item that was pulled, we need to allow for public comment correct. Before we vote on it. Yes. Yes, Thank you. Okay. So if anyone would like to speak on this item only, which is 6D, please approach the podium at this time. Seeing no one approaching the podium and I don't have anyone online, public comment is now closed on this item. All in favor of this motion to approve 6D. Please say aye. Aye. Any opposition? No, the motion passes unanimously. Thank you, everyone. Moving on now to official public comment. This is public comment on consent items and also any items that are not on the agenda. And I will just quickly, as always, it's three minutes. It's non-transferable. It's on a Q&A. Same rules apply as I previously spoke. Address the commission as a whole. And not any individual on the day is. We're in the audience. Insults, personal attacks, disruptions will not be tolerated. You'll be asked to leave. Should you violate them? And it looks like we're thinning out, but if you are speaking on the same topic, if you want to come up and have one representative to move it forward, that would be great. Otherwise, public comment is now open. So please approach the podium, state your name for the record, and you have three minutes when you're ready to begin. And I see a coach. We do have an item that we're going to, that we're going to discuss later if you won't, but I understand you have to go. So if you want to speak now, I'm that item. That would be great. Thank you. First and foremost, thank you guys for having me here. My name is Coach Danny Mendoza. I'm the new head football coach over at Boy and Beach High School. I just want to thank you all for your overwhelming support that we've gotten from you and my short time here at Boy and Beach High School. You stay here to the mayor, deputy mayor to all the city commission. The Boy and Beach Police Department, the Boy and Beach Fire Department, and our athletic director, Alex Musley and our principal Moody Fuller, the support has been overwhelming. I just want to let you guys know really quickly what I plan to bring here to the city of Boynton Beach in regards to a football. We know that football can change the community to get changed people's lives. And we want to continue to set high standards, elevate these kids not only football wise, but academically have to be productive, productive citizens to this community, and also have post-secondary opportunities. We'll continue to set a high standard, develop character, and you know, those are a few things that we want to get done. In regards to, you know, what we've got going on, we hope to see everybody here at the Gain Friday and Niverist Boca. Ultimately, our goal is to bring it state title here, but we're not going to sacrifice integrity, accountability, and high character. So once again, thank you all for your all one more support and I appreciate you. Thank you very much. Thank you coach. Go Tigers. Next, Cully. What time of the game, Stoddy? 6'30. Thank you. Hi, Susan O'Air, Boi-Ton Beach. Once again, I'm bringing up this asking why the lights over next to Poin-Ciana have not been changed out in Commissioner Hayes District. They are those purple blue lights. There's approximately six or eight. I've taken pictures and sent it in before. That color light has been proven to cause cancer because it disrupts sleep and I'm wondering why the area next to Sarah Sims in that area and next to Poinsie and Elle. Why those people have to live with lights that are potentially hazardous to their health. We don't need a cancer cluster in point because of lighting. Second of all, I want to bring up how come the serisims orchard has not been replanted or maintained. I was on the original sustainability board when we planted approximately 40 some odd orchard trees out there for that community orchard to deal with a food desert and there's I think 15, 20 left so we've lost approximately half and there is water piped out there, so what's going on? What happened to our trees and why are they not being maintained? Why do people act like they don't care about that park in district two? Third, I understand we were working on a brochure for new residents to tell them about some of the basic laws, which would help me when people are coming to me screaming, I need your help to go deal with code. And then Adam has to listen to me or Patrick Hart. I hope maybe we can finish up that brochure and get some basic rules out to our people. You know, people I think want to do the right thing. And they think, oh, I don't live in an HOA neighborhood, I can do what I want. The reality is they can't. And then they come to me to fight their fight. And I go try and fight it. Then I find out they just didn't do what they were supposed to do and have their ducks in a row. So it kind of makes me look bad. So thank you, Adam, for being so tolerant of me when I'm trying to fight for people. And they haven't done their end of things. So why don't we get that brochure out to people sooner than later. And apparently, no one appeared to listen to me when I was up here a moment ago. I asked for a referendum to get rid of the covenant, not to put in a covenant. So thank you. Thank you, Miss Warrior. Next person, please approach the podium. We can take turns too. So. My name is Mike Wood, 803 Northwest 11th Street. I'm here about the Pioneer Boat Ramp Park down in the end of Sky Lake in Pioneer Port. We've been six months now. We did have temporary barricades and now they put a fence in there. But it's, you know, when you're in a boating community and you use the fresh water lake, we really don't have anything left now, except for to go to Delray or Lake Worth in order to get into our boat ramp. So I'd like to know if we could possibly look at the ramp and see if possible we could use half of the ramp instead of the whole entire ramp. We understand that the east side is in bad shape but possibly there's a way that we could close this the one side off until we're able to do the work. I do want to say thank you for putting the sign up there. I'm letting us know what's going on with the boat ramp. There at the thing, it does say it's starting in 2025. But then on the paperwork, we heard that was starting in October of 2024. So if we could get some clarification on that, that would be great also. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please take your name for the record. that would be great also. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I use the boat ramp very often and I just, it's been closed now for a long time. We had temporary barricades there, but people were still using the part that was available. And now there's, you know, fencing in place. So I guess I just wanted to come up and ask and see if there's any more information we could get on what's going on with it. And yeah, that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next person, please approach the podium and state your name for the record. My name is Tony Sencar. I'm a long time East Point and Beach little league volunteer and coach. I had three minutes of preparing marks for tonight that I was so happy to be able to tear up based on the progress that was made today in our meeting with the city manager and with the league. And we're looking forward to a renewed partnership between the little league and the city. And I want to thank you all on behalf of the little league. My other comment is from an outsider's perspective when you drive by and will write and you see that new beautiful turf field. It looks amazing, right? From an insider's perspective, we see locks on a field that we can no longer use as city residents. I had tons of kids that I've coached since they've been really little texting me the last couple of weeks saying coach Tony, can you come out and meet us to do some ground balls and fly balls to help get us ready for our middle school tryout or high school tryout this week? And I do it all for your charge. No, there's no money exchanging hands. I do it because I love the kids that live in our community. And I tell them, we don't have access to a field anymore. It's locked. So we try to drive to Miller. We try to drive in Park and Delray. We try to drive to Boca to be able to do that kind of stuff. But the city that we live in, we don't have access to that field anymore. There's just locks on the field. I was there at the field for five minutes just take round balls to my son he's got a high school try out coming up next week and said sorry if you're not affiliated with bar was can't let you on the field. So I just want to let you know this is what happens when you privatize our public assets. That's done field one is done I just want to make sure that we save the rest of the fields for the for the kids who are growing up. And I want to make sure that our other parks like the boat ramp and our other stuff is not privatized and is there for the good of our citizens. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Next person please approach the podium to your name for the record in three minutes. Cindy Valca de Carrado. I received this in the mail the other day. It's a $145 assessment fee. We just pay $120 or was that a little bit higher this year on our taxes. Why are we paying for every person that lives or owns a home in the city of Boiton Beach $145 for a firehouse that's on minor road? And FYI, when I ran for a mayor, they closed that a half hour early on purpose so they couldn't, people couldn't vote. I do not want to fund this, I do not want to pay this, I want to know how I can opt out of this. I'm not paying for a firehouse, this is ridiculous. Number two, as you all know, I was accosted here in this room sitting right over there by a police officer. There was an erroneous report that was written, and the documents on it state that I was at the podium, you could read it for yourself, you could look up this case number, which is 2-4-003-880. Nobody has been reprimanded. I have done a research for internal affairs, the officer that attacked me, that assaulted a senior woman, nothing has been done. I'm appalled. And like I said, each and every one of you were witnesses to what transpired that day. So I did want to also bring into attention. I love that we have baseball. I love that we have fishing. I love that we have football. What do we have for the women that don't enjoy those parts? We don't enjoy those sports? We don't have a beautiful downtown area where we can shop, where we can do tea time. We have nothing to draw us women, not unless you like those sports and good for you to do. But what's happening for the women of this community? I'm a little bit disappointed as a person who's a floral artist and does parties weddings and events to see absolutely nothing in this town. There's no wow, there's nothing special. You can't even invite a girlfriend to go do something fun in this town because there's nothing for women. Where are the thrift stores? Where are the little, quiet little boutiques? Where's our beautiful downtown that we did that charrette that I have nothing, I see nothing. I can't even walk downtown anymore. And I live right up the street to go to the beach because it's so disappointing in my heart to see what a mess our downtown looks like. I go to Lake Worth, Medzimetsa, but at least there's something. I go to Delray, of course, they have a lot of activity. I don't want to be either one of those places, but I like to walk down the street at night and see some beauty around me. And I'd like to know when I'm gonna get a forest park park. We do not have a park in forest park. And I'm still waiting and I still see nothing. There's nowhere to camaraderie. There's nothing. When are we gonna see those things done in our city? Our tax dollars have gone up, but we have not gotten any amenities for our monies. That we work so hard to pay for your salary, these buildings, and all the employees. Thank you. Thank you. Next person, please, it perched the podium. So your name for the record, you know the drill. Mike McCray again. This has been the second meeting I've been in, where I heard somebody say that city manager work 80 hours a week. I'm gonna challenge that. I'm gonna go ahead and say it's nice to hit yourself to speak to my people work 16, 80 hours a week. It's nice to talk to your meetings of being recorded. Is there legal for anybody to work that many hours, whether they get paid or not? Be careful of what you say. Thank you, sir. Next person, please approach the podium state, your name for the record, and you have three minutes to begin when you're ready. I get evening commissioners and management. My name is Gregory Hartman of the Lieutenant-E3 Southwest 25th place. I'm going to have a couple of off-topic things, not on the agenda and kind of at a left field. I've just seen two opportunities driving around town for new parks in town. I know we're always looking for new space. They're not making more land. We have one more available lot in golf U Harbor at 1010 Southwest 24th place. I'm sure no one wants a new neighbor in the middle of them. They'd much rather have a gazebo with a bench or nothing with a big mango tree that I think is currently there. That's you know, pretty good use. I know the lots for sale. They're probably asking a ton. And the other one is at 220 Southwest 23rd, which is golf. it's just behind the hospital there, or adjacent to the hospital, not a wonderful parcel. I'm sure none of the neighbors back in that neighborhood want to have a medical space there or whatever could just be an open space or the path through it. I think those would both make great additions to our park systems without a lot of effort. I don't think you need to do a whole lot to make those into valuable green space for those communities. And particularly along golf, we don't need more development right there with traffic through the roof. And I think they really benefit the neighborhood just to have that be a winding sidewalk through. I believe the sidewalk also ends when you're on the north side of golf trying to walk past the hospital garage there. So it could also help for more connectivity in the future. Just an idea. I've also seen tossed around a lot. Comment about annexation for areas out west. You know, a lot of negative talk about the city. I think the city offers a lot of great services. I think the city, you know, a lot of these communities would benefit to be part of the city. They're more than happy to wear the Boynton Beach name along their crest, along their communities, and say, you know, their mail goes to a place with Boynton Beach on it. But as soon as it comes time to join the city, it seems to be a little bit of hesitation. I hope the city can move forward with those plans. If you agreements are in place, the cost of getting municipal water is expensive. So I think in the long run the city is in the right to Annex and go as far as 441. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hartman. Next person, please approach the podium. So your name for the record, you have three minutes. Start when you're ready. Hi, good evening, everyone. Jessica Ferguson here. I wanted to first off start off by saying thank you as Tony Sancar stated earlier. And Dougher stated today was definitely a good day in a right move, in a good move, in the right direction for the Little league and the partnership with the city of Boyton. It took us a little bit to get here as a rocky road. A lot of rumors and whatnot flying, but I think we're definitely moving in the right direction. Tony did bring up a couple concerns about still about the field and I know we're trying to work through those, but you know they offered travel teams on that field. We had some of our East Point and Little League players that tried out some which we consider elite or should have had some type of placement or at least an opportunity in one of those teams. And none of our East Point and Little League players were selected to be on that team. Granted, that's up to their discretion who they want to choose, but I thought it was important to share that they offer this program, but none of our players, unfortunately, were accepted. Another thing, I just have a quick question in regards to one of the items of the agenda, just for my understanding, and I don't know if you guys can touch on that or not. In regards to proposal 10A, I just want a little bit more inside us to what exactly does that mean, what exactly does us cover? Because I think that's another thing that's floating around us to not having enough clarity. What exactly does that mean? Because again, we want to protect our little league field, we want to protect the boat ramp and I just want to make sure that this somehow doesn't mean that now Dugger has the authority to do something or somebody after him has the authority to do something without bringing it up to the commissioners. So I think that's important for clarity to happen and for us, the community to know exactly what that means so that we're aware, right? And we're all making a good judgment call as to what's happening. But we don't know what we don't know. And I just don't want, again, the rumors to take over. We need clarity. And I think that's it. So again, huge thank you. I appreciate all your time, especially Dugger, Shawna. Thank you. Today really meant a lot. And our fall season is secure. We have a bright future ahead. And I'm happy about that, so thank you. Thank you. Next person, please the first lipodia. Stay your name for the record. Three minutes, my name is Karen Reinhart, and I live in the Forest Park neighborhood. I'd like to speak about the wire mesh poles that have been deployed in our neighborhood. I spoke with this briefly, but I don't think that our community knows very much about them. And what I'd like to say is that they do not produce high-speed internet. And what it can and does produce are radio frequencies frequencies microwave, which means frequencies like a microwave, for which there are no current human exposure guidelines. They are harmed to life and property. DNA damage, brain damage, cancer, physical and mental illness, and infidelity. And they are connections to the global information grids, wireless body, area networks, that use your body for network data routing. And the last news of letter regarding the wireless network programs was in April of 22. Now they have put the signs up in our neighborhood and have already deployed them. It's my understanding that you guys have gotten the permits for these. They have not been tested. They are not tested for hurricanes or anything. They are just a poll on our streets, in our neighborhoods, in front of our homes. They, if you look around, they're replacing all of the telephone polls and the electric polls with concrete. These are just there. They're, anyway, I just want to say that you guys have all been informed about this since July, and that you continue to have these harmful things deployed in our neighborhood and you allow to continue this without mitigation to the residents of this and to the deterrent of the public. Now, they also do, they bring down the property value of our homes and I just think that it's unfair that you just place these in our neighborhoods without any public awareness or anything about them. And also, I want to talk about the community standards in my district. I am sorry, but they are very selective in their enforcement of it. And it goes on every week. and I'm tired of it. I've lived here for 25 years. If you're going to do your job, do it to everyone. Just don't do it to certain people. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you for your comment. Next person, please approach the podium, stay your name for the record and either one. If you're taller, it's usually easier. They're Mike, just thanks. Don Ritty. Thank you all for a representative of the city of Boen Beach, lifelong resident, as well as the Little League Park. And I want to thank you guys for the progress that's been made to try to help put a path forward for the Little League, and ensuring the policies and his intact, that's very important to our families. And I appreciate everything that's been done to get us here and I look forward to a path forward that can be made hopefully looking at some of the other you know sporting programs that are in these boing or in boing beach like the bulldog and what they're set up for and how their tree didn't. I mean we you know I look up here and I see the golden blue on the back of your podium here, and that's our color. We wear this on our sleeves. And in fact, the 11 new team just went all the way to states and won the state championship and then went on to the tournament of state champions to represent this city right here in golden blue. And so I think that's very important that you guys have decided that we'll be recognizing them and I congratulate Coach Mario and all those kids out there on that great run. And thank you guys again for acknowledging what's been happened here. I mean that's an amazing feat. Being a state champion is no small victory by any means. So and those kids can go on to a bigger run this year. And so, again, I'm here for the future. I'm here for what can come of that little league. And I look forward to working with you guys and trying to find some kind of a way forward that makes sense. It's a great deal for you guys and for us and everyone in this community. That's what this is about. So, thank you very much for all that's been done. Thank you. Next public comment speaker, please approach the podium. Stay your name for the record. You can be. Hi, my name is Melissa Hagenz. I hope I'm not speaking out of term, but I live at 2240 Northwest Second Street. I'm calling about, well, I'm up here about this big pole that has been placed in the front of my house. I don't know what number one I would like to know what it is, why it's placed exactly in front of my door way. I know the swell is not my area, but I do take care of it. And I'm concerned about if, you know, I ask it if it falls, you know, and it just, it really looks bad. I try to keep that whole area, even the amount of debt in, and it's like a land man. I'm always picking up trash, having people go and, you know, clean up where people just come trash it. Now they put a big pole there. I don't know what it is. I would like to know what it is, number one. I don't know if do y'all answer questions? Oh, you know, so. No, but staff, staff can talk to you after your public comment. Okay, what it is and why wasn't it put like off to the side of my property? I mean, it's like dead slap in the middle of my doorway. I have a glass door and you could see it and I'm afraid that if something happened, you know, who would be responsible if it falls on my house, if it falls on someone while they're out there? You know, that is a bit concerned. Besides it do, it looks like it takes away from my property. I work hard, you know, to try to keep that place up down there. There, they seem like they could have put it either at the, to my north, to the north of me, or the south, I think there's a water main, but then there's a empty life south of me also. But why they placed it red, slap dead, as I walk up my front door, I have no clue. I wasn't notified, I didn't know I came home, I was telling my kids, why didn't y'all ask them or try to stop them or stand there you know don't just let them put that put it there See why they're putting it there, you know, they shouldn't just come and place that pole there and just it's just takes away from the value I know usually y'all will pull up the screen and see my see where the property is and you know see what's going on Because I had been here before a long time ago about them trashing the place and I need a dead in another dead inside because you know, see what's going on because I had been here before a long time ago about them trashing the place and I need a dead end, another dead end sign because, you know, buses, the fire department, of course, I'm not going to stop them from turning around. They don't have enough space to turn around at that dead end so that you do utilize my driveway and there it do cracks or, you know, know coming up I have to replace that stuff. But of course I'm not going to stop the ambulance. Anything, any emergency I'm not going to stop you know because I know it's important. But I would like to know you know why is this happening could someone I call the city but I never got a response you know. So I would like to get some answers on, why was this place, can it be removed? And I pray it could be like moved off to the side of the property still to slap that in the middle. Thank you Ms. Hagen. Staffel will come and speak to you. Thank you. Next person. Hi, here I am again, David Merker. I have a question. This proposed order in number 24-012. I would like it to find for me when you discuss it, because if it's what I understand, I find it appalling if I'm understanding it properly. And the other thing is, will there be a vote on this tonight or will it be at another meeting? Thank you, Mr. Mercker. Next person, please approach the podiums to your name for the record. You have three minutes. Valerie Pleasanton, a been a resident here since 1957. And I'm appalled at some of the recent suggestions for code enforcement. At this point, things like if you leave town for a week and you get a lot of rain, and your grass grows past six inches, which is entirely possible, then you gotta quote enforcement. My mother-in-law is currently awaiting judgment because the swale in front of her house has all kind of neighbors from a joining apartment places because she's single family turning around in her swale. So she's told she must maintain the swale. She cannot put up anything that stops people from turning around in the swale. And in here you have something about it can't be anything in there taller than three inches has to be flat nothing can be done to block the swale and thus she is responsible for residing it quite often she does not have the money for that you know if it wasn't for her son as a lawyer, which we're asking him to come down from north to defend her a 93-year-old woman from having to reside her swale every little bit because we cannot stop others from turning around in it. You know, that swaleills been like that with gravel, which was put in about 40 years ago, to just stop that problem, because they always before had lovely green grass. So the rules that you are trying to put in, maybe they're very appropriate for people who want to live in homeowners associations. But honestly, I choose not to live in a homeowners association, because I think the rules are overreach. I think we can maintain our homes without having people tell us, you know, how short to make the grass. How often do we have to scrub mold or mildew little stains off? You know, what happens if something falls on your roof and makes us stain? Ah, now you're not in compliance anymore. And honestly, people can't always climb up on ladders when they're elderly and fix stains on roofs and we don't have the money to constantly be hiring somebody to fix these minor details. So I would ask that you all rethink some of these rules and regulations that are in your community standard. Thank you. Thank you. Any other public comment speakers please approach the podium? Seeing no one approaching the podium, and I don't have any online public comment, public comment is now closed. Thank you everyone. We are moving on to administrative. Vice mayor, before we move to administrative. I've heard for several months now about this blue light. And I would like to know how that validated one way or the other. Is there any supportive information on such a thing? So they've had the next meeting if you need more time, but I'd like to know one way or the other, because I don't want a scare in district two. OK? And it's been brought up several times because I don't want a scare in District 2, okay? And it's been brought up several times that it affects African-Americans. And we don't need that type of spreading of information if it's not true. So would you look into that and bring back some type of report? Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you. Yes, sir. Andrew you. Yes sir. Andrew. I can just mention that most of the lights in the city are being operated by FPL. They installed, they did a conversion to LED lights, I think approximately two or three years ago. And when those lights fail, sometimes they fail in that purple color and they just need to be replaced. So we'll take a look to see if their FPL lights will have to put in a work order and actually get them removed and replaced. I don't have any knowledge direct knowledge about the color of light affecting people. And I don't know. So that I can't validate. I've not seen any studies that affect. So but we if they are purple FPL will replace them and we'll put them in, in a work order. Because, you know, at the end of the day, we are humans. Yes. And so a lot would it affect one versus the other soldiers? Get that information if you would, okay? Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Andrew. Moving on now to five. Just real quick on some public item things this the swells can I can I see something or have something sent to me about what we can and can't do is I think that's something to address if people are turning around I know in forest park in my neighborhood same neighborhood there's we see some swells that have trees in them I think they look great but I know that engineers don't like them for the draining issues you know. But that's a problem that could be solved easy. You know, so I would just want to see that. So, Commissioner, can I suggest that you circle back with Adam maybe on what those code restrictions are if it's something that needs to come back before the commission? Then we can, the next meeting maybe put it on a future agenda to have that discussion. I just want to mention there is a proposed ordinance relating to swales and grass and various things. If the commission wants some direction or gives us direction regarding to what if you are prepared to talk about that tonight and discussion item line by line as to what we want in it or not we can certainly do that and then it can be changed for second reading. If we aren't prepared to do that then we can always pass this item to next meeting so that we can have specific discussions because I don't know if the community standard supervisor is here this evening. So Commissioner maybe we'll move it. Oh actually she is here. Candace is here. So I'll just mention that maybe when we get to the item. We can make that decision. Thank you. That's it. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So now we can move to 5A. 5A is ratifying this selection of the Art Advisory Board Chair and Vice Chair at, let's see see are there any questions if not can we have a motion so move all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed saying nay motion passes unanimously okay moving on now now to five B community support funds. Andrew, do you want to, this is to approve. There's been a request from myself, Commissioner Turkin, Commissioner Haye, for $1,000 each to the point and be a high school football team from our community support funds. As everyone heard, the coach was here their first game as Friday. This is something that we're really trying to partner with our city schools and their programs and so we're excited. I'm excited to support this with my community support funds. So I will go through each of our recommendations separately for approval. So for my community support funds, can I have a motion please? Motion to approve. Okay. Okay. All those in favor? Hi. Hi. Nia posed. The motion passes unanimously. Commissioner Turkin, your donation of $1,000 community high school football team. Can I have a motion to approve? So moved. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? No. The motion passes. Commissioner Hay, your $1,000 donation to the Point Beach High School football team through your community support funds. May I have a motion to approve? So moved. Second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. No opposed. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. No opposed. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Now we are moving on to consent. Are there any items that my colleagues would like to pull from consent? Yes. My chair, I'd like to pull seven. We're on six. I'm sorry. Too many understandings. I'm getting excited. No. Okay. I'm sorry. Do you have any under 6? No, I'm getting excited. No. Okay. Good under 6. No worries. Anybody having anything under 6 to pull? Seeing none, may I have a motion to approve? Thank you. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. We'll be moving on to consent, vids, and purchases over $100,000. Commissioner Turkin, was there an item you wanted to pull? Seven B. Seven B, any? Seven D. Okay. And seven E. I'm sorry, 7F as well. Okay. Commissioner Hay, do you have any items you'd like to pull? No, they've been pulled. Okay, very good. Oh, thank you. And Commissioner Cruz just stepped out. So can I have a motion to approve the remaining consent items over 100,000? A move. Second. All those in favour of approving the consent, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? No, motion passes unanimously. 7B is proposed resolution number R24-182. Approved change order number 4 to purchase order number 230 3, 0, 7, 4, 2. Andrew, would you? Oh, my hall there. Thank you for approaching the podium. Good evening, Vice Mayor, commissioners, city manager and audience. I'm Poonam Calcutte, the utilities director. Keith, you want to introduce yourself? Good evening. Keith Weber, the system utilities director. Thank you. Can you just do a brief overview of this item? This is just a... He's here to stand. It's Paula. Yeah, so this is just a So this is the fancy lake site gardens project when we went to commission back in I believe it was January There was just a mathematical error that Didn't account for that $23,000 when the math was done it was done incorrectly We also looked back at our procurement guidelines and when we went to procurement they decided that based on the way the current procurement guidebook is written that our changers need to be paid through contingency. So when we increase the contract value, we only increase it to $100,000 for contingency and we need that additional $23,000 for the current change order. And the reason that we used up the 10% contingency is usually when one makes that. When this project was designed, it was only for storm water and water. And when they looked at the project they also decided to also replace the sewer mains because they were failing when we were only supposed to do the sewer laterals. So the sewer main was actually replaced under contingency even though it was really an additional scope to the project it was paid through contingency so that really used about 9% of the 10% of the contingency. So when you look at it from a holistic standpoint, we really didn't use that much on change orders. It was just to really increase and be able to do the sewer main at the time. Awesome, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Senator Canjou, I have a question. Thank you. So the base contract amount was just a hair over 3 million. Was that previously approved? And now we're amending this adjustment? Yes, correct. So let me ask you this, and legal, maybe you pay, you know, my chime in. What is the, so the whole dollar amount is what, $23,000, right? Yep. Just so members of the public understand processing how funds are utilized. If this does not get approval, even though this contract was already approved prior and we're looking for a $23,000 amendment, it needs to go before this board for approval. Correct? That is correct. So the city manager cannot authorize this. The mayor cannot authorize this. It needs to be commission approval. Yes, the commission approves the item and then at that time the commission can designate whomever it wants to execute the contract because the signing of the contract is only approving the will of the commission which is ultimately authorizing the contract. Right, and so for something where we've already approved the contract, you know, for 3 million of the base amount, even a slight amendment in changing this has to come before us and we have to make that change. So I think it's important there's some information and as we go through these agenda items or these consent agenda items, I'm going to point out, you know, how strict it is and just to release the funds, you know, there's so many levels of audit before funds can be released. So that's it. Thank you so much. I just think it's important for the public to know the process. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Dhargan. Commissioner Haydo, any questions or comments on item 7B? No. Okay. Commissioner Cruz is still absent. I do not have any questions. Thank you guys for coming out and for clarifying this change request and with that I will entertain a motion to motion to approve second all those in favor of basically just a correction of mail. Correct. Correct. Right, right. All those in favor of approving 7A, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say no. No opposed motion passes unanimously. I'm sorry, that was 7B. It was 7B. 7B. Yes. What? I said- 7A. Oh'm sorry. That was 7B. 7B. 7B. Yes. What? I said 7B. Oh, sorry. Moving on to 7D, proposed resolution number R24-185. A proof of a piggyback agreement with Motorola's solutions to replace handheld radios, upgrade existing dispatch radio consoles and purchase two additional dispatch radio consoles and the amount not to exceed 2.406374.71 and do we have okay. Assistant Chief Jack Dales here to present this item. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. selecting what's basically the middle radio that would be used in a police setting. So there are more expensive radios, but we chose the lesser of the acceptable options. The radios will also give GPS location data on each officer so that when they're away from the car and if they're in help, they need help. We can locate them and send them help if they're out on the scene or away from a vehicle and can't give an accurate location. Thank you. Commissioner Hay, you and Commissioner Turkin pulled this item. Would you like, do you have any questions or concerns on this item? Go first, Commissioner. No, I just wanted to let you expand a little bit on the technology and what it takes now to get the job done in this society. I just wanted to hear a little bit more about the technology. So it also has, we typically have a problem with current radio technology and that The radio doesn't travel well in thick buildings This has cellular technology also and embedded in the so that we'll be able to extend our range beyond the boundaries of the city And also if they're in like a hospital or a building that has thicker walls, they can transmit from inside the building, which is typically a problem when we use some of the thicker concrete that we encounter in Florida. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Turkin, do you have any? Yeah, no, I just, again, so the amount is to not... Actually, my first question is how old are your current radios from what I understand my agenda review pretty outdated. That's why we're looking at this. 16 I believe they were the ones that are coming up eight years old. Okay eight years old. Yeah, a lot of them. You're lucky to happen in eight years in innovation over in two years right? Yeah I think the faster time goes by and you see innovation just keep getting better and better. So I see the full amount is 2.4 million roughly and one, you know, there's a technology credit for over one million dollars and then we've already had these budgeted dollars you know allocated for this. Can we explain the technology credit? Yeah we had a prior contract that we negotiated our way out of with Motorola to acquire a new record management system. We were unhappy with the prior Motorola system and they issued us a credit for the full amount that we had paid and we're utilizing that credit to apply toward the radius. items are budgeted as they are. The city manager or the mayor, or whoever has not an authority, cannot authorize any credit to be used. With what's the minimum value? The issue here is not necessarily the credit. The even if a item is approved in the budget, that particular item, if it's over what the procurement code sets out. And what is that? Well, it's 50,000 for general goods and services and then construction up to 200,000. So anything over that, even if it's an approved budget item, has to come before the commission. So just to clarify, so if this commission, we go through our budget workshops, we hash out the budget, which has been great. And thank you, staff, and Peter, you've been super great to work with, thank you. So even after we discuss and we give consensus publicly at a workshop or at a meeting, whatever's budgeted needs to again come back, like it is now and needs to be approved again with general consensus. Right, because what the Commission approving is this point is the actual contract and the ultimate expenditure of those budgeted funds. Right, so without the approval, the second approval right here, we're not getting radius. Correct. So then once, if it's approved, then it would go for a signature pursuing the commissions will. Correct. Okay, nope, that's it. Thank you again for utilizing the credit. Thanks for all you guys do. I love to see innovation in our city. I think innovation, community policing helps prevent crime. We want to make sure you guys have the tools to do your job. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Dr. Khrushen. I know you came in after this had started, but do you have any comments or questions on this item? No, thank you. Thank you. Gentlemen, my only question, so I noticed that there were two additional dispatch radio consoles. Are those because of increased personnel? Are those going being utilized in different areas what are those the two additional consoles being we were in need of additional consoles but we also Receive funds that come back from county 911 so those will be later reimbursed from the county Okay Great Okay first from the county. Okay. Great. Okay. That is all of my questions with that. Can we have a motion to approve 7D? Motion to approve. Second. All those in favor of approving 7D? Say aye. Aye. Any opposed? The motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on now to 7E. Proposed resolution number are 24-186 award invitation to bid number CS24-0374. The Lake Boynton is states road resurfacing and pedestrian crossing project to Atlantic Southern Paving and Seal Quoting LLC. Good evening, Vice Mayor, commissioners, city staff and residents. My name is Annelie Holmes, Deputy Director of Public Works, and with me I have Carl Fermentay. He is a Division Director for Construction Services, and he has a small presentation on this project. Great, thank you. Good evening. Thank you. Okay, thank you for your time this evening. We have a project coming up that we'd like to complete. As soon as possible, actually we'd like to put this right behind our Gulfview Harbor project. So we're requesting the Commission approval to do road resurfacing. We leave the flooding conditions we have in the eastern portion of the neighborhood. Recon tour the swells to hold the volume of water that we needed to hold. Swells has been talking about quite a bit tonight. A lot of the swells have been replanted, some have been washed out, some have been re-sotted. So there's a lot of inconsistency with the swells. So we're going to, we'd like to take the opportunity to this project to go in and correct that, make the way as uniform, maximize the holding capacity, release some of those flooding conditions, and make some of the necessary repairs. What we found is when the neighborhood floods with the vehicular traffic creating that washing effect, a lot of these fines have washed out from under the sidewalks, so they're in a state of disrepair, a lot of damaged areas, and potential exposure for the city there. So we like to make those repairs as well. In addition to that, we would do a new pavement marketing as a neighborhood and pretty much create new sidewalks too. The sidewalk network in the neighborhood is incomplete. There's pockets of sidewalks that's missing. And our objective is to make a complete network of sidewalks for the community to safely navigate the neighborhood by foot or by vehicle. So with that said, I'll go ahead and move into the presentations just a couple of slides. This one here. Okay. Okay, so the project location essentially is on the Westside of 95. We had recently completed South with A Street as a paving project with which by sex the communities that neighbor, neighboring communities of Leisureville and Lake Boynton States. So the project components of this particular project include the point in the lake's neighborhood, which actually a portion of it is on the west side of A Street, the majority of the neighborhood on the east side. And in addition to that, we'd like to have a new loop road between first court and first avenue for fire and rescue. That would help their mobility through that neighborhood, particularly in the emergency type of situations, and then also repave ocean drive, which actually turns into west ocean. So that cuts through the Lake Point in the States neighborhood, adjacent to Hyviscus Park, and runs all the way to Congress Avenue. So those are the three major components of the project. The project big cost, as you stated on the agenda, we rounded the numbers here, 1.32 million, 10% contingency. So that's the cost of the project. So we have a couple of slides here that highlight the existing conditions. Back in 2019, the road was scored as C and D roads. So you know, four years have passed, five years, almost five years have passed. So the conditions are worsening. So there's a number of different pavement distresses that we observed. There's actually some holes that are starting to form and some of the asphalt. So it's going to rapidly deteriorate from here if we don't move this project forward. Again, as I mentioned, the east portion of the neighborhood will be the primary area we'll be doing the rework to the swales specifically because that's the area that is most subjected to the flooding condition that we see in these flash rains. Again, the swales are inconsistent, that impacts the holding capacity. In addition to that, we have some sidewalk hazards that are caused by the undermining of the washing effect when these areas flood. And also, there's some ADA features there that are obsolete or inditerated states that will address those as part of the product as well along with the pavement markings at the intersections. Okay so a little bit about the roads there so I mentioned the two major roads southwest seventh street and ocean drive are the two major roads that see a lot of traffic through their neighborhoods so our approach would be to tackle those areas first because that's the majority of the paving while the other crews work on the sidewalk and swell contouring issues. And we like to work in that order simply because we're not tearing up the new asphalt. So again, there are some structural road repairs that we would need to complete before the resurfacing operations can move forward. We would also add the new ADA features that we need to meet the current standards. The new sidewalk, we would construct those in full locations to complete the pedestrian network and enhance that service to the public for pedestrian circulation. Like I mentioned earlier, the thermoplastic pavement markings will also bring everything to current standards, everything will be consistent and it's more visible for the motorists and safety. On the residential roads, again, those will be resurfaced in all of the neighborhoods. We will construct and re-contour and make a uniform swell that is more closely fit to our city standards. We will construct new sidewalk in these locations to complete that pedestrian network and remove the hazards and replace the thermal plastic pavement markings at all stock conditions. Currently there are none. We have a stop sign, but the pavement markings, if they were there at one time, they're so faded that they're almost, you cannot see them. The timeline, so basically the bid, we opened the bid in 517. The award date of the bid was at the end of July 730. The project duration is a 270 day project, and our anticipated start date will be probably towards the end of October, early November, 24, if this project is approved. So that puts our completion date around June of 25, beginning the next summer. And that's all I'll have, so thank you very much for your time this evening. Thank you, Carl. Commissioner Trirkin, you pulled this item. Would you do any questions or comments on this item? First off, I just wanna to thank you both so much for the presentation and thanks for everything you guys do. And the public works are super busy with a lot of road paving. And it's good and it's one of those things that the community sees, right? And this is one of those projects where it's not about the district or who's getting what's best with the community, right? So seeing these multi-gerestictional projects come to life is great. With reference to the 10% contingency, so can you explain why that's in there? So typically when we scope these jobs, it takes a little bit of time to put everything together and as we go through the bid process, it can span several months. So typically things can change in that time. There could be some additional damage to sidewalks because there's some other things that were possibly missed, conditions of roads, just something that might come up that got missed. Normally what we like to do is not dip into that for these road type projects, it's pretty successful at finishing them on time and under budget. Whereas you get it to a different type of project like, for example, SL Hester Park football field. There's a lot more components to something like that. You're more prone to move into the contingency monies in a project like that depending upon how all the plans are, the depth of the scope, the amount of detail that was developed on the front end, typically with these paving jobs, we don't really get into the contingency too deeply. Okay, so this is- So if you have that there primarily is a safety net. Safety net. And so just for the record, and again, for public perception, Shana, for this 10% contingencyency if the bid went overboard, right? Could public works or finance disturb, no, they couldn't disperse more funds in order to get the project complete. So there wasn't a 10% contingency, what would be the process? Let's say if it's a $100, $200 more. They would have to come back for commission for additional approval of the additional expenditure of funds. So the financial component has to come back to commission, whether it's a $1 over or $100,000 over. If there's no contingency. That is correct. And so that would obviously need a consensus. And then after that, that would need to be signed and authorized for finance to disperse those funds. Right, that is correct. What would happen is generally you would enter into this agreement and then if later down the road, the numbers were off, we would enter into an amendment to the agreement with the provider and the amendment would then have to be approved by the commission. Okay, so the amendment has to be approved by the commission and then after that, then there would be, you know, I guess the execution, which is, you know, the city manager or the mayor or whoever, but the funds aren't, the change in funds is decided by the commission, whether it's $1 or $1 million. Right. What we look at in these is what is the initial dollar amount or the total expenditure that's being paid? Okay. And so even if it's $1, if the total expenditure is over what the procurement policy allows, then it has to go to commission for a perfect. Thanks for that clarification. So I understand this 10% contingency, totally justified construction industry is, you know, crazy last four or five years. And so I think this just makes things more effective and more efficient in the case so it doesn't have to come back so we don't have to stop progress for the residents in order to get this project done Exactly. It's so that we don't delay these projects. Perfect. Thank you Thank you Commissioner Cruz so quick can you go back to the slide with the the you turn Miss a way or we're not taking public comment on this item because it's consent, but you can email your comments. Perfect. The map. So you can speak to him after he's done with his presentation. That's a slide. One. Thank you. Perfect. Thank you. No, I just wanted to give Kudos. I know Andrew. It was his idea when we first started started and we talked about this a long time ago. It's something that's going to help our first responders are fire trucks as well as our utility garbage trucks to get through to that neighborhood. It's right adjacent to the park in leisureville. The only thing that I would like to request per request of the community as they want to keep this park very passive is just to put do not park signs on there which would help with two things making sure that the park stays passive and then number two making sure that the emergency trucks as well as the garbage trucks are able to get around so that cars are not parked in there so that's my only request. Understood. All right thank you so the cars are not parked in there. So that's my only request. Understood. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. With that may I have a motion? Motion to approve. Motion to approve. 7e. Second. Just put it in. All those in favor of approving 7e say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. None opposed. Motion passes unanimously. Moving on now to 7F. Proposed resolution number are 24-188. Approved the second amendment to the Progressive Design Build Agreement with Global Tech and the amount of $7,030,000, $108 for the East Point and Treatment Plan, Generator Replacement Project. Good evening, Vice President. Thank you. Commissioners, an audience. This project is something that we've been working on for quite some time. As you can see from some of those resolutions and it was because of really procuring some of the material. So we ended up doing this project as a progressive design build. This is for getting generators and then some other things at the Eastwater treatment plant. It's one of those projects that most of us who are here now have inherited. So initially was just supposed to be just a generator project and then as we started looking into putting those generators looking at the design, as we started talking to the design engineers, we realized that we needed to change some of the pipe headers, add some pipe modifications, and other things that needed to be done for these generators to be in the right place and for us to bring more efficiencies to the plant. So the way we divided this project was we divided it into initial phase of procuring some of the equipment because they were long lead times and we could save some money on owner direct purchase. So what that means is instead of going through a contractor and paying them a fee on top of that, sometimes we can directly purchase some things if we don't feel that there's a liability in that. Sometimes we can directly purchase some things if we don't feel that there's a liability in that. So we went ahead and did that and we were able to procure the generators at a lower cost and not pay some taxes based on that. And so save some money. And then the second phase, so first phase is all completed where we had what we're calling phase one and phase two A, which was design and procurement and finishing up all of those things and now it's the construction part that's left and we are asking for permission to continue with that and there is an increase in price and we have the money in the budget We just have to bring it into this project so that we can move forward with the construction part of it. Thank you. Thank you. Questions I can answer? Questions? Thank you. Commissioner Hay and Commissioner Turk and pulled this item to either of you have comments or questions on this item. I've been talking a lot. You can go first. All right. No. No, I just, so the 7 million was that for both phases of the project? Yes. Okay, so phase 2A is completed. Yes. Phase 1 and phase 2A is completed. Phase 2B is remaining. All right. And so phase 1, phase 2A, phase 2B, that all falls under this 7 million allocated budget item. That's correct. But because it's in different phases, and it sounds like there was a slight increase which is already budgeted for we're back here to give that approval. Correct. So we have the whole dollar amount of what that increase was. I can look that up for you. The way, usually the way it works for progressive design build is that you have the construction team and the design team at the same time here. I might have, if I keep my, I know that information in his head. But what we usually do is with progressive design build, we have the design team and the construction team work together. And we come up with what's called a guaranteed maximum price and that's what we need to finalize for the phase 2 A. So phase 2 A, we were able to get that guaranteed maximum price but the phase 2 B, as we had added all these things, came up to be higher than what was originally budgeted. So we have money in the budget that we can bring in here but we need commission approval to use that money. Anything else you want to add? The January cost was outside of this. That was roughly $2 million for the whole spend for the project. It was a little over $9.5 million. That part is outside. It was to save on taxes. We saved a couple of $100 by doing that and Purchasing them ourselves as well as if you looked at the cost those generators now We probably saved a couple hundred thousand dollars there as well So this is for the construction design to finish the project This includes 10% contingency in the GMP as well or the guaranteed maximum price for the contract the additional Cost also was because we needed to do some structural upgrades to the plant. As we started to look at the plant, we realized that there were some structural failures that were starting to occur inside the plant so to make everything safe for city staff, we needed to make those structural upgrades and add that to the project as well. This additional $1.5 million that we're looking for in the budget transfer roughly is budgeted for next year. But otherwise we didn't re-budget the amount that we currently have. So we'd have to wait till those funds roll over in January to be able to spend it. We want to convert those funds now and get the PO moving so that we can start this project immediately. This project also had just one more thing to add. This project also had a grant component to it. We had a grant that we got one of the generators on that grant. So that was another additional help to the utility funds. Awesome. No, thanks for bringing up the grant item. I'm glad you brought that up. City Attorney. So with this project, right, where it's a multi-phase project, we're back here for Commission approval for an increase in funds, and we talked about a grant component to this. What, we hear that there's structural safety issues, right? And from my perspective, there's no cost on safety. There's no cost on quality water for our residents. And so if this wasn't approved, because that would be roadblocked, right? You couldn't finish out the project. If this wasn't approved, I'm sorry, if this was approved and then went for signature authority, whether it's the mayor, a commissioner or a city manager, and that doesn't get signed, is there, is there opportunities or an outcome where this project gets stalled or we don't get grant funding because there's a certain date? Is that a possibility? Yes. With regard to grants, they usually have very specific time frames for completion and returning of the documents or applications and those can be very time sensitive and unfortunately you know reality happens that it may be the 11th hour when we go oh no this is actually due today not due next week so it's very important that those documents get signed immediately. Okay perfect. Nope those are all the questions I have and thank you guys so much. Appreciate you. Thank you, Commissioner Turkin. Commissioner Haydo, have any questions or concerns on this matter? It's explained it. Very good. Thank you. I'm not gender review. Very good. Commissioner Cruz, do you have any comments or concerns on this matter? No, thank you. Thank you. With that, can I have a motion to approve 7F? I can. All those in favor of approving 7F say aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you, staff. Moving on now to public hearing. We have two items, we have two items for public hearing. I will now turn to the clerk to swear in anyone who is here to speak on this item. Anyone that is here to speak on items A and B, please stand up and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you are about to give will be the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth Thank you. You may have a seat Thank you at this time. Let's start on my right for disclosures relating solely to item 8 a commissioner crews I have no disclosures. You have to read that. As to this matter, I have not had expert communications, have not received written communications, have not conducted an investigation, have not made a site visit, or have not received expert opinions. I request that these closures handle written communications be made part of the record. Thank you. Mr. Hay. Please. As to this matter, I have not had expert communication. I have not received written communication. I have not conducted an investigation. I have not made a site visit. I have not received expert opinion except for staff. I request that these disclosures and all written of indication be made part of the record. Thank you, Commissioner Tricken. I have not had expert communications. Does that matter? I'm not receiving written communications. I'm not getting the investigation. I'm not making a site. Is that? Sure, my God. I have not received written communications. I have not conducted an investigation. I have not made a site visit. I have not received expert opinions. I requested these disclosures and all written communications be made part of the record. City clerk, can you please read the ordinance into the record? Proposed ordinance number 24-014, second reading, an ordinance of the city commission of the city of white and beach Florida. I'm ending ordinance number 89-38 by amending the future land use ordinance of the City of Commission of the City of Boyton Beach, Florida, amending ordinance number 89 dash 38 by amending the future land use map of the City of Boyton Beach, Florida for a portion of their approximately 0.6 acre parcel of real property located of 500 northeast 21st Avenue Boyton Beach, Florida. By changing the future land use clear classification from medium-density residential to local retail commercial. Declaring the proposed amendment to the future land use map to be consistent with all the other elements of the comprehensive plan of the city, providing for severability, conflicts, and providing for an effective date. Proposing them ordinance number 24-015 is second reading in ordinance of the city of Commission of the City of Wey-em-Beach. I'm ending ordinance number 0-013 to resume there approximately 0.60 acre parcel of real property located at 500 northeast 21st Avenue. Wey-em-Beach Florida from multifamily residential to neighborhood commercial to clearing the proposed amendment to be consistent with the comprehensive plan of the city providing for severability conflicts and providing for an effective date. Thank you city clerk. Do we have a is there has anything changed since the last reading do we have a presentation? There have been no changes since the last reading and only if the commission needs a presentation. Okay. Do any does any of the commission want to see the presentation on this item? No I'm good but just for the record I did speak with Jim Sizzic about this I disclosed that the first reading but just rather be safe and sorry to disclose that as well. Thanks. Thank you. City Attorney, we need to allow for public comment. Is this a second reading? Yes. Okay. So I am going to allow for public comment at this time on item 8a. If there anyone in the public would like to speak on this matter, please approach the podium at this time. Seeing no one approaching the podium, I have no one online. This item is now closed for public comment. Maybe we have a motion to approve ordinance number 24-014 on second reading. And a second, we had a second. And now city clerk, if you would do the roll call vote, please. Commissioner Haye. Commissioner Tarkan. Commissioner Cruz. And now city clerk if you would do the roll call vote please commissioner hey Commissioner Turkin Commissioner Cruz yes vice mayor Kelly yes in a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously Thank you city clerk moving on to 8b if you City clerk could read the ordinance into the record for post ordinance number 24-016 second reading in ordinance of the city Commissioner of the city of Boyton Beach, Florida approving the abandonment of portions of an existing utility easement associated with the shops at Boy and Beach development project located at 2202 North Congress, haven't providing an effective date and for all of the purposes. Thank you, City Clerk. Do is there anyone? Oh, did we do, we did it for all of the items. Yeah, you don't need disclosures for this item. We do need public comment. Public comment, correct. Perfect. So I will open up now for public comment on item 8B. If there's anyone in the audience that would like to speak specifically on item 8B, please approach the podium. Seeing no one approaching the podium, and I have no one online. Public comment is now closed on item 8B. May I- Vice Mayor. Real quick, there was two ordinance, or there was two items under A. Did we vote on both of those items or only just one? Did we need to vote on both? Yes, technically we should have voted on 24-014 and 24-015. We probably should vote on them separately. I think we did 24-014 so we just need a vote on 24-015. Perfect, it wasn't in my. So if we could have a motion on 24-015. Motion to approve. Second. We have a second. City clerk, can we have a roll call vote please? Commissioner Hay. Aye. Commissioner Turkin. Yes. Commissioner Cruz. Yes. Vice Mayor Kelly. Yes. In roll call vote, the motion passed unanimously. Thank you. Okay. Moving back on to proposed. Thank you, staff for catching that. Moving on now to proposed ordinance number 24-016. We have closed public comment, and let's start over again. Can we have a motion to approve ordinance number 24-016? On second reading. We have a motion. I need a motion. Motion to approve. Thank you. Second. Second. Okay. City clerk, if you could please do the roll call vote. Commissioner Hay. Aye. Commissioner Turkin. Yes. Commissioner Cruz. Yes. Vice Mayor Kelly. Yes. In a roll call vote, the motion passed unanimously. Commissioner Cruz. Yes. Vice-American Lee. Yes. In a row, cobble, the motion passed unanimously. Thank you. Moving on now to 9 City Ministers' report. Point of order. Commissioner, I'm in the Vice-American Lee. Just wanted to make a point of order. I know Commissioner Hay stated in previous meetings that if there were any notes that were handing out to each other, he should be made part of the record. There was a note that was handed out earlier and I would like for that to be made part of the record and I would like to see it. Technically, Mr. the City Manager and I are not subject to Sunshine Mall and you're welcome to see the note but it should not be part of the record. Why it has nothing to do with city business? And to, we are not subject to sunshine mall, nor do we have to make disclosures with regard to our communications. And any disclosures, if it was, with regard to city business, would be attorney client privilege. But I'll be happy to show it to you. Thank you, city attorney. Moving on now to nine city managers report. We have nine A, receive update on the status of future agenda items. City manager do you want to speak on that item? Yes, Vice Mayor, thank you. I'm not going to go over what we already discussed tonight. I know we got two items on here, August 20th. And during the agenda reviews, we win over those. So in the event of expediting this meeting, I'm not going to go over each individual item. If there's any questions from the commissioner in this body on particular items, I will go over those though. If that's okay with you guys, or I can go line item by line item. Per deems okay with me? Someone has a question. Right, so I know that you adjusted some, you put dates on some of the future agenda items. I can go over September 3rd, the next commission meeting if you guys would like. And I know we have some meetings that's pending. And even some of the meetings, I know Commissioner Turkin came in. He met with Amanda Radigan, Adam, and Andrew in reference to the artificial turf. So that's going to be getting a date on as well. I do want to give Kudos to Andrew. He came up with this format, and that was at the direction of the commission. As far as the draft of the cloning this plan, the mayor's not here, but item A. As is, that's going to be discussed at September 3rd. Discussion regarding the formalized tree planting program. That was also the mayor's request. That's also going to be at the September 3rd meeting. Discussion regarding the youth student attendance at National League of Cities Conference sponsored by the city. That's also ready for September 3rd. I know Commissioner Hay, do you want to move forward with that or do you want to look at? I want to move forward with that. Okay. All right. And then also discussion regarding infrastructure that was both Commissioner Turk and Commissioner Cruz and reference to paving in the city. I think the idea behind that was a funding mechanism for additional paving in the city for each district. On that city manager, you know, one thing is, you know, we've talked about with the ARPA funding, and there was some concerns with the Department of Treasury, I believe. Can we get an update on that? So that's now a closed investigation, and within the city, I'm not going to open up exactly what personnel was involved in that. But there was some issues with us following the guidelines of ARPA. Since then, we had two or three personnel within the city. One is Candace Walls. She's here tonight along with Mirna, our grants manager in Daniel Whitefield. They worked with our auditing firm. And what we did was we were able to preserve the $5.2 million that we had already allocated for these paving projects. Andrew worked behind the scenes making sure that Commissioner Cruz got the District One project and Gof-U Harbor funded. And the last commission meeting we got District 3, Boine Lake, Boine state's project also funded from CIP. So the 5.2 million, we got word this week that we would not have to pay back those funds. And what we need to do going forward is look at possibly during the next meeting of treating that as a revenue loss. So we can treat up to $8 million as a revenue loss from ARPA to put that into fund balance. What that's going to do is that's going to lift the veil of restriction on a lot of those ARPA funds. So if we need to go back at a later time and maybe look at funding other projects, one particular project that actually got nixed was the audiovisual system over at the Arts and Cultural Center. This commission, again, the responsibly restaurant with me was provided with bad guidance. That project wasn't even approved for our funding. So that's something that we'll have to look at going back and actually refunding that project that a future day. But yeah, those three individuals, they definitely burned them in and they worked it worked some late nights making sure that the city didn't lose those funds and what was that that amount that Candace Danielle and and Merna were able to make sure that we could keep in our coffers it was five five point two million dollars maybe in the back well I just want to say big thank you for I know know you'll stay late. Make sure we hit the deadline. So thank you so much. $5.3 million is a lot. Thank you. Thank you. Applause. We'll just be clear. There was no offer funding that we had to return. Correct. Luckily, I just got that word this week that no we do not have to return any arpefonds so we got the we got the go ahead from the Department of Treasury Thank you So I reviewed my items and I they're fine where staff has placed them. So I guess if each of the commissioners, were there anything, Mr. Cruz, did you see anything on future agenda items as far as the proposed date that you wanted to ask staff to modify or move? No, I'm fine with what's been proposed. I know I have to have a meeting with code enforcement and HR. And we need to find a time that is within hours that I can meet. Yeah, perfect. Mr. Hay, was there any of the dates proposed that needed to be changed on the future agenda items for you? Okay, thank you. Mr. Trirkin, did I cover you? You're good? Yes, thank you, question. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Moving on to 9B, Budget Status Report for fiscal year 2324 through June 2024, an audited, I see Peter coming. Good evening, everybody. Peter Kayakas, Director of Finance for City Aboyton Beach. Quick update as of June 30, 2024 on the budget status. It's 75% of the year passed and we should be expanded and collected 75% of revenues. Currently for general fund, we have collected about 83% of revenues because of early collection of advalorant taxes. And that's 55 million advalorant taxes, which is represented 46.5% of our general fund revenues. Another 19 million is a transfer from other funds, which another 16.4%. Our general fund revenues and 36, 37% or 44 million is for other revenues. As far as our expenditures, currently we expanded 92 million, which is 77% of our budget expenditures, which is basically in line with 75% of our general fund expenditures. You tell if defense, we have budget at 60.3 million, which represents 3.6 or 6.3 percent increase from fiscal year 2023. Budget and then for the nine months of this fiscal year 24, actual revenues realized 45 million and expenditures are incurred 38 million, which leaves at least 7 million in surplus. If you have any other questions, please. Have a year to this month. Thank you, Peter. Commissioner Cruz, do you have any questions on this item? I do not. Thank you. Mr. Hay, do you have any? Okay. Commissioner Durgon? Okay. Thank you. I'm good. Thank you so much for the update. And I'm glad to see we're in a surplus in the utility fund. I'm sure they are too. Thank thanks a lot for having me here and vice mayor and commissioners and have a good night. Thank you you too. Okay moving on to nine city manager you wanted to or you were prepared to give an update with regard to the East Point and Little League in the meeting that you had today? Yeah, we had a very productive meeting today. We had a meeting on the fourth floor to conference room with Jessica Ferguson, who's still in the crowd. Adam Lynn, I believe, his name in Steven Stefano. Hopefully I got all those names. Their turning was there. Our turning was there. And AJ, my apologies, the president of East Point Little League Board, it was very productive on both sides. A lot of misinformation was definitely out there in the atmosphere. We were able to clear up a lot of that misinformation. And we made some real progress. With your permission, I'd like to read the text message you sent, Jessica. And because that really highlights a lot of the specifics. So. So today our board members, AJ, Jessica Stevens, an adamant with the city manager and the staff to discuss the way ahead regarding field use and a long-term partnership between East Point and the league in the city. Major pot of the steps were made including confirmation of our permanent requests for the fall season at East Point and the league. That was some of the stuff that we carved out during the ongoing process without athletic angels. I've spoken with Mike Barros. He's very, he wants to be extremely common dating, making sure those East Point and Little League does have the use of the fields. Two city commitment of over a million dollars towards the Teaball fields, park repairs and improvements. I know if the commission wants to hear the actual specifics, Gail and Andrew, Gail Moots and Andrew, they've had multiple meetings and also including these going on the league to see what those improvements entail and what could help the park most. New sports provider agreement, this is contingent on the litigation being dropped and moving forward. We worked out a plan to where I think we're gonna hold those whatever sports provider agreements we work through are gonna be held in escrow and then at the point in time we almost do a simultaneous signing and dropage of those legal issues. Seven to 17,000-foot square foot indoor facility that was planned to refill for. It's not going to happen. We haven't had any, I know we had some issues with the previous vendor that we had entered into a contract with. Nothing has been brought forth in reference to an indoor training facility. That was put out also in the atmosphere that I was going to be a proponent of that or I was trying to privatize the rest of the fields. I can tell you honestly that was complete lies. I got enough faults on my own that those people can criticize me. I don't need like anyone lying to the public that it's one of the information. City manager, has there been any solicitation for an indoor facility or privatization of these fields? No. No. Okay. Now since the two, the only two, and that wasn't solicitation, that was something that exists when I was appointed. Right. So when I came in, those contracts were already being worked through. Okay. That was with the previous city attorney and show. Sure. Got it. And so the previous contract was terminated by the city. Why? For breach of contract. Thank you. And since then, there hasn't been any solicitation to. So what do we need to do from a legal mechanism to make sure that we, the city, hold ourselves accountable and honoring what we're talking about right now. Wood, for example, the room where I heard the city manager wants to privatize the fields, he's going to send out an RFP, right? I think all those things would have to come to the commission. If we were to engage in anything, there's no signature authority that the city manager has that could do that, correct? That is correct. Can the mayor do that now with his signature authority? No, we cannot. So that would need a come before commission approval? Yes, it would. Thanks for the clarification. Especially if this contains a monetary value. Right. Absolutely. the case. I'm not sure if it's the right time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. It's a good time. there's obviously the city extended its commitment at East Point and Beach of the League. And also the 11 you, the kids, they won state. They need to come next meeting, they need to be recognized. I mean, Boyne Beach should be proud of its own and the accomplishment those kids did is really amazing. I mean, we got such a longstanding, like, beautiful history of that field. I mean, we won the 2003 Little League World Series, ABC's Extreme Makeover, redid those fields. And that was over 20 years ago. Here we are again, and we're trying to, and I know they did that pro bono with no cost to the city, best 20 years ago. So with the $1 million enhancements and the investments, and I told Jess as soon as we get through the some of the litigation aspects, you guys have seen what Andrew has been doing behind the scenes, trying to help the boy in high school raise funds. Commissioner Hay, you've seen what I've been working with Gabby, and the rest of the community with the boy in Bulldogs, trying to get them a new score board. We're going to extend that to you guys also Jessica, just so you know. And everyone on this, Dias knows how I feel about sports. So, thank you. And communication, right? I think that is the most important thing here in any relationship, in any business, in any government organization, communication is key. And I would say, I think that's for all of us, that's something that we should work on, no one's perfect, but we should always strive to be better. And so I think that's a thing that's been an opportunity, I'll say, for Boying Beach is providing information and effective communication. So we're good, we're good. We just need to get better. And that way we can prevent, you know, all these rumors, misinformation, weaponization, you know, all this stuff. So. Well, and, and, Commissioner Turkin, thank you for saying that on that point. You know, I encourage social media as our enemy. It's one thing that we talked about. We were all, our son of us were at FLC and a lot of the focus was on, you know, how to get the right words out to the residents and how social media, although it can be a benefit. It's also a, it is also a very negative thing when we are not part of that conversation too. And so I would just encourage people if you do hear things. I know I check my emails regularly, I responded to all the emails I got this morning. And I know my colleagues do and I know staff is on it. So I would just ask if you're hearing things, you know, reach out to us as opposed to believing what you read on social media. And that's all I have for that. Thank you, City Manager, for that. We are all very supportive of our sports and our sports teams. And I think that moving forward, we know, I hope now, they know, I hope now they know where we are and we know where you are and what's important and so we are looking forward to moving forward. And those are all of my comments. Commissioner Haydo, you have any comments on this on his presentation? Okay. Commissioner Cruz, do you have anything? Thank you. With that, we will move on to 10a on to regular agenda. City clerk can you please read the ordinance into the record 10a. proposed ordinance number 24-01-2 for a reading and ordinance of the city of Boit-In Beach Florida. I'm ending part two chapter two administration article two city manager section 2-, powers and duties generally by creating new subsection K, authorizing city manager to execute certain contracts on behalf of the city, providing for codification, severability, conflicts, and an effect of day. Thank you, city clerk. CCICU at the podium you're presenting this item. Racked. Thank you. Once again, CCWanger, deputy city attorney. Before you this evening is an ordinance and we're seeking some direction and feedback from the commission at first reading related to the establishment of a clear framework for what types of documents or contracts can or cannot be signed by the city manager. When Shawna and I came in to the city in this office, we've looked at the city's policies and procedures. We've looked at standard practices in place. And this was one item that we've identified as something that we see gaps in some of the policies or policy declarations made by this board. And it's one of our goals to ensure that the documents different locations made by this board. It's one of our goals to ensure that the documents that are executed by the city are legally binding to eliminate both risk as well as to establish authority. The item before you tonight once I came in and looked at what was occurring in city hall and what the standard practices had been for a long time. I reached out to your department directors and asked them to identify items that they saw as being routine in nature or that may have been historically signed by the city manager or other types of things where maybe a resolution was adopted at some point in time but someone might not be able to identify that resolution or this board has consented to certain programs like your adopt a road program and those types of things, but an element of that is execution of a contract. And, you know, again, we're looking to you to say, do you want to see every single one of those? That's really the implementation of a program that you've established, or do you want to make that more of a ministerial function and authorizer city manager to execute those types of documents. So with that being said, I want to make sure that it's understood that this ordinance only applies to budgeted contracts. It requires any document signed to comply with risk management policies, include insurance. It must comply with the city's procurement policy, which is adopted by this commission. Any form of agreement must be approved by the city attorney's office. There can be no indemnification because that would again create liability and risk for the city and only this board can approve indemnification obligations. So I'm just going to run through the items that City staff identified as proposed items for your consideration. First would be corporate and media sponsorships of City programs and events. The City puts on approximately 50 events each year. And as part of those events, they solicit sponsorships of that. Part of your sponsorship involves an agreement between anyone who desires to participate in that whether it's a $200 contribution in exchange for their name and logo being on a banner or something much larger in scale. Again whether or not this board wants to see every sponsorship for all 51 of your events or if you would like to delegate that authority to your city manager is absolutely within the policy discretion of this board. Parks and Recreation, Adoptor Park, or Adoptor Road Agreements and special event permits that involve no expenditure of city funds. Again, these are programs that this board has seen indicated that they support and again the actual implementation of that program requires an agreement to be signed. Site access agreements, temporary parking agreements and right of entry agreements that would allow the city to access or use property. This does not allow the city manager to authorize someone else to use city property. This is only for city use of third party property. Again, it cannot include indemnification. It cannot involve an expenditure of city dollars. And an example of this, again, for a lot of your events, you seek parking lot usage from neighboring properties for your 4th of July event and 1st Friday and whatnot. This allows the city manager to execute those types of agreements. Public art and loan display agreements, again involving no expenditure of city funds. My prime example of that would be for your kinetic event. I know Craig and his team solicit a lot of artwork that goes on display at the city. We have a form agreement whether or not this board wants to see each of those agreements again up to you. The city code and the city charter provides that the city managers responsible for the administration of all employment matters. This number five in this proposed ordinance, creates express authority rather than the implied authority within the charter just to clarify what he is and is not eligible to sign. So we're talking about employment, disciplinary action agreements, separation agreements, etc. That is necessary to implement and administer his powers under the charter and the code. Six would be volunteer agreements involving no expenditure of city dollars. Again, if a volunteer group wants to come on, if people want to come and say, I would like to have four people come and volunteer at whatever in parks and rec, whatever it may be. Again, do you want all of those volunteer agreements to come before the sport, or would you like for it to be signed by your city manager? Seven is building permit applications for budgeted city construction projects. So the city procurement code authorizes the execution of construction contracts up to your approved dollar amount. Every other item comes before this board. There are things that need to be signed by a city representative as the owner of that project. That's what this item addresses. Item 8 is releases and partial releases of lean or conditional lean settlement agreements. You've adopted an ordinance that relates to lean settlement and policies within your code. Throughout it, it states that the city may do X. It can enter into agreements. It can execute releases, so on and so forth. It does not say who on behalf of the city can do that. Additionally, when we talk about releases of lean, you have residents coming in paying off their leans in full. The release of lean is really the equivalent of a receipt for them so that they ensure that they obtain clear title. And number nine would be procurement contracts. Once again, in accordance with the limits set forth in your procurement policy, and for which this commission has adopted multiple resolutions authorizing that in the past. Again, the goal of this is to really create a framework in sure that whatever resolution and policy declarations this board has made in the past are codified as your attorney that's a best practice for this city rather than long term policy declarations being made by resolution. One of the vulnerabilities in a resolution is that when the person who knew about the resolution administered that type of thing leaves your city. That institutional knowledge tends to leave with it and the policy direction of this board does not always survive. So it's always a best practice to codify those types of things. So with that being said, I'll turn it over to the board and we're happy to receive any feedback and see how you'd like to proceed. Thank you. Thank you, Stacey. I will start on my left with Commissioner Turkin. Do you have any comments or questions for Stacey on this item? Yeah. So you know with this it sounds like you know so I want to go back to what I meant when I brought up about the grant. So if there's a grant that's at a time limit on it or a parking agreement that has a time limit on it, for example, the JC Park Grant opening, I think we did a parking agreement with an adjacent property. If that doesn't get signed, who signs that now? That has to come before the board now for approval. Okay. To sign a parking agreement. Sign a parking lot agreement. For example, Pirates Best. Right. There's been a request for a parking lot agreement, which is four hours of parking in a parking lot. Right now we need to make sure that that agreement is done and signed and brought before the board so that it's in effect and in place before obviously before the event. Okay and we can we can bypass that, right? And then have someone sign that? Whether it's a city manager or the mayor or whoever, right? So the ability to contract within your charter resides with the City Commission. Article seven of the charter provides that the right to contract is held by the City Commission. So if you chose to delegate certain rights to certain individuals, which has been done throughout your code historically, there are a number of code sections that delegate that authority, whether it be to your city engineer, your public works director, your public utilities director, your police chief, et cetera, for very specific items. So yes, someone can sign it, but again, that authorization and delegation has to come from this board as a whole. the city. So, yes, someone can sign it, but again, that authorization and delegation has to come from this board as a whole. Got it. And so, with, has there been a situation in the city where we've almost put the city liable to litigation because we didn't get anything signed because you know whoever let's You know, let's say a commissioner need to sign it, you know or a city manager need to sign it and they're out of town Or they're not here and then that opens up the city and people are already parking because we're advertising You know to park this is that open the city up for liability that doesn't get signed what what happens more frequently is not that Whoever's designated is not there to sign. It's getting these agreements approved by necessarily the owner of the property. Or it comes back because they have to sign it first. Or it comes back and they don't like the language and we go back and forth. And then we don't have time to get it on an agenda before the event. That creates a problem. Yeah, it sounds like an operational inefficiency is what it sounds like. Correct. And it's not always due to city staff. It could be due to, you know, the owner of the property is out of the country or whatever, whatever the case may be. And so just, just to put in layman's terms, right? You know, I don't know if I'm tired or I just, all the legal jargon. Can you tell me exactly what's proposed? And just so I can understand, this city attorney's office is proposing this. This is not something the city manager proposed? Well, for clarification, Stacey and I mostly Stacey, because this is more her wheelhouse with transactions. Notice the disconnect between what has been allowed under your prior counsel for the past 30 years. And, you know, maybe they had the institutional knowledge. Maybe there's a resolution that allows it that we're not aware of. However, we ask city staff what are the sorts of administrative sort of things that are time sensitive that need to be executed or what has historically been done in the past. We have found some resolutions that authorize that authority and then some we haven't and so We want to make sure that going forward no matter who is in this position And to staff that is abundantly clear what you need to make time to come to the commission that has to be approved by the Commission and what is administrative and can simply be signed by the city manager. As you guys see, FET, whether you want to see everything or not, is no bearing on us. We just are trying to keep things and make it clear because there's a lot of areas that are gray. And I never think, offering from a gray area, opens yourself up to risk and different legal interpretation. Yeah, Shawn, I know you don't operate in a gray area. For sure. Yeah, I think looking at this from an operational standpoint, and what's best for the resident taxpayer, is the last thing everyone to happen is we get awarded grants, we approve it, you know, whatever that we lose out on that or we put the city at litigation because there's a time sensitive issue, you know, this is just an operational inefficiency and you know, we're not the same time we were 30 years ago, we're much busier and growing exponentially. You know, I know there's a lot of rhetoric about the city manager becoming a king and this and that. And at the end of the day, everything's gotta go before us. That's monetary, right? We have to approve that. And so I don't care if the city manager signs it. If Andrew signs it or the mayor signs it or vice mayor Kelly signs it all like here is that something gets signed so that the taxpayers don't suffer and we don't lose out on grant money and we don't put the taxpayers dollars at risk of litigation. So for me, I'm right across the street. There's 10 time sensitive issues. I'm more than happy to come and sign it, if that means protecting the taxpayer. So I'm in favor of allowing this commission, any member of this commission to sign, and if we need the city manager to sign it, he can sign it. It's not about us, it's not about one individual and whose signature is on there, it's about what's doing right for the taxpayer and being operationally efficient and making sure that we don't lose out on grants and and put in the city at risk. You know, I think that's what this conversation is about being operationally efficient because otherwise if everything comes before us, we're gonna, I mean my gosh, we will get nothing done with city business. It's already 9.30 now. All those little things coming on to the agenda will be here until midnight, 1 a.m. every day, and then the things that do matter are gonna get postponed, because we're gonna be spending time discussing, you know, contracts that, you know, I think people, people want to park if they need a park somewhere for an event. They don't mind who's signing what. They just want to make sure they have adequate parking and they get there. The community wants to see that we're receiving grant funding, right? They want to say, oh, great, they can come out of my tax dollars. They don't want to see a headline that says, oh, we missed out on a $500,000 grant. Could you imagine, for example, we couldn't sign the fine grant for the boat ramp or easel-hester that field got postponed because we couldn't get it signed. That would be absolutely embarrassing. You know, I think the discussion here is just someone needs to sign it. And everyone in this commission should be authorized. And if the city manager needs to be authorized, I'm in favor of that. It's not about us, but the taxpayer. Thank you, Commissioner Turkin. Commissioner Haydo, do you have any questions or concerns on this matter? Well, first of all, I don't like the idea of trying to make these types of major decisions with 80% of this council. I think we, again, we need everybody to present and everybody's input. As for me, you know, I mean, it's worked in the past and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Now what you're trying to convince me is that it's broke, broke it. And I'm not convinced about yet. There's a lot of information being put out here. And is it a matter of the mayor not being available or he's not doing his responsibility, what is the real problem? And in order for me to move forward, I need to hear that side of it. I understand what it means to say, but I'm just at this stage of the game, I'm uncomfortable with this. I do agree with what's been said, but as far as people who science, we're all elected officials. And it's the city of Managing job to run the day to day to day activities. However, this is causing too much unnecessary dust and smoke that as far as I'm concerned is unnecessary. So I'm answering why why are we doing this? Why are we trying to in my opinion rush it and talk about staying here or night if if if If we wouldn't talk so much about a particular item, maybe we can get out here on a decent time. I just feel that we need more discussion on this when we have a full board that we can hash it out. I don't want to accuse anybody of anything, but it just doesn't set right with me. If the mayor not doing his responsibilities being available on time, where is he tonight? I don't know. So let's make sure that we are not opening up a bag of worms here with the public opinion, not being favor of this, because I'm not convinced at the stage of the game. I've heard your explanations and it all sounds good but something tells me we need to further discuss this more than trying to make a decision here tonight. And so that's where I am. I think the mayor should be here to answer for himself and to have his input into this and we discuss it a little bit more rather than trying to move on this tonight. So that's why I am. Thank you, Commissioner Hay. Commissioner Cruz, do you have any questions or comments on this? I agree that we could definitely have this discussion at another time as Commissioner Hay stated. I do have a specific question because I was printed this and I was reading it. And it is a little bit different from the other one. But I have a question specifically about line 59, which is nine procurement contracts. So we're giving the city manager authority to sign procurement contracts in accordance with the limit set for the city of Boyd and Beach procurement policy. If I remember correctly, sometimes procurement contracts could be depending on what they are. The amount is not always very high. So when I think about, you know, let's think about what happened with not to open a kind of warms, but I have two examples here. So let's say on a theoretical sense, right, if we have an RFP for the little league, for example. And we have a couple of people or three or whatever number applying for that bid. If the rental amounts per se or whatever were, again, whatever that is that we're working on is let's say $10 a month or $100 a month, that would fall under the threshold of under $50,000 would that then be something that the city manager would sign? So again, the procurement policy applies to goods and services as well as construction. So in my opinion, the type of solicitation that you're talking about which is really either on land lease or disposal of city property in some capacity is not truly a procurement contract. Okay. So we would have said- In the manner in which your procurement policy is written. Okay. So then in that case that would not be the case. Correct. The intent of this is not to allow for the disposition, use, lease, license, sale, rental, any of that of city property. It's only intended to, again, we go back to the parking lot, type of agreement, allow the city to obtain use of a third party property, not the other way around. OK, let's do another hypothetical. Let's say there was in the Harvioia park or in any other park. If there was, I don't know, whether it's a concession stand or a restaurant or a retail space, which we discussed earlier today. And we were to rent that property per se or do like, let's say, is that something that would have an RFP or like, how would something like that function? So this board would direct that. You do have a surplus property type of provision with respect to sale and I believe in lease of property here. So again, even if you did a solicitation for those types of things, and again, we can craft this however it is that this board wants it to read to make sure we address any body's concerns. But that's not the intent of what this is. But it's possible. Potentially. That's not the intent of what this is. But it's possible. Potentially. I mean, again, when you talk about what land value is and what lease value is and those types of things. Thank you. And that's kind of, that was the most concerning one because when we think about the procurement process, we understand obviously, we have management, and then we have people under them that do their part in the procurement process. But there's a possibility always for massaging per se of the way that things are done, the questions that are being asked or things that are being requested in an RFP, for instance, and it's everywhere, it's just standard stuff that happens. But my concern would be to have the same hand that is managing the process per se, be the same hand that signs final. And that's for me that is something that, whoever it is, whether it's Tommy and Johnny, like it should be a different person for the sake of transparency and for the sake of checks and balances. So that's kind of my thought. So I mean, I will say that currently and as has been a past practice as adopted by multiple resolutions approved by this commission and prior commissions, the city manager does have the authority to execute contracts up to those procurement thresholds. 50,000 for non-construction, 200 for construction. Correct. And when we lost the amount for construction, I think it was 100, we recently did it with it in the last year, I think for 200,000. Right. So with respect to this, again, I mean if there are specific concerns and I do hear you with respect to really any type of disposition of city property, whether it be through lease, license, et cetera, I'm happy to work with this board to meet its needs, to carve those types of things out. And again, to create whatever it is that the policy of this board, we're not trying to create policy. We've identified what we see as some gaps and issues in processes, and we've been told what the standard procedure has been here for a long time. And I, my goal is really to make sure that what we're doing here is legally sufficient, because every time I sign my name on one of your contracts, I'm approving it for legal sufficiency, and one of those elements is the authority to sign that contract. So by me signing it, I'm saying it that whoever is signing that document can. So we really are just trying to establish clear rules of framework, again, both for the benefit of my office, for your city management team to look and go either I can or I can't. And for city staff who comes to us frequently with things and they go, well, historically this might have been done. Why can't it be done any longer? So we're really looking to this board for some policy direction and some firm guidelines. So that way we ensure transparency and clear boundaries and that we're fulfilling what it is that everyone here is trying to accomplish. Absolutely. And thank you for working on that. I know you guys have found a lot of stuff that you're working on and you're working to make improvements within a procurement process in the legal department, so I do commend you for that. There's one more thing, because I like to research. And this is a conversation of having private with the city attorney as well, but it's the charter, right? And so I was a little bit shocked to not see section 7 and 10 of the charter be part of this package because just reading it, you know, it appears that they're relevant to the signature authority of contracts and enter into contracts. So, I'll just read it for the record. I have printed a copy of Section 10 of the Charter. It's titled, duties, powers, privileges of mayor. And it reads, the mayor shall sign all deeds, bonds, or other instruments of writing to which the city is a party when authorized to do so by the City Commission. If, for example, the charter were to say the mayor or the city manager consign all these bonds blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, that would say that we might need a charter amendment to make that, you know, a solid part of our charter to be in compliance with the charter. So doing that research, I understand in Section 7, it also says the commission has the authority to enter into contracts and, you know, the City Clerk is the one that, you know, deals with that as well. But I did find this section 10 to be very relevant to this very specific thing we're discussing. So thank you for including the other things. But I would also like to ask in the future, if there's ever anything that this board is discussing, that is very specifically listed in the charter, I would definitely appreciate it and or require that. We provide that as well as part of our agenda packet, because it just makes sense to include that in there. Of course. Yeah. So I was doing a little research on Sunday night until like two in the morning. And I found a few attorney general decisions in which multiple municipalities were asking, the city attorney of those cities was asking the attorney general, can we amend the charter by ordinance? And I have a list of here, I have multiple cases, but the basic consensus with five different cases And I have a list of here, I have multiple cases, but the basic consensus with five different cases of different municipalities, one of them was Helen O'Beach, was the most recent one. The attorney general of the state of Florida stated that anything that is in the charter needed to be changed through referendum. It could not be changed by ordinance. We could pass an ordinance that allows for that item to be placed on a referendum for the people to vote on. But something as clear as section 10 of the charter that very specifically says that it is the mayor who would be the one to sign when authorize to do so by the commission, not per se, any other individual. The only thing I can think of and correct me if I'm wrong would maybe be the vice mayor, you know, because the vice mayor is kind of serving in that similar capacity such as running meetings and that sort of thing. But yeah, that's, that's the only thing I wanted to say. Just did a little bit of research and kind of, you know, was looking into that. So with that being said, I would like to not move forward with this, because I do believe that a contradicts with section 10 of the charter. I do understand that we've authorized certain amounts and they're capped, but the way that I'm reading the charter and the way that I have done a little bit of research and found attorney general decisions, you cannot amend the charter without a referendum. And that's the way that I'm seeing it. I'm sure there's different interpretations to that, but for that reason, I'm not going to be in support and I'll go ahead and agree with Commissioner Hay. Thank you, Commissioner Cruz. Can I speak vice mayor if you don't mind? Yes, I think I gotta get my thoughts together. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I'm not going to be a lot of people. I looked at it as general house keeping, not a power grab, all capital letters and emails that have been circulating throughout the community. And again, this is another one of those fallacies that have been spread out through the community and like a power grab by me. I don't want any more signature authority. I don't need it. I sign enough documents on a day-to-day basis. My chief of staff can attest to that. I think if we're just looking for a contingency, so we don't have a single point of failure when it comes to operational necessity. So if that is the vice mayor and it rests with the legislative body, so be it. I don't need any more signature authority. The only thing staff is looking for is an alternative. If something were to happen to the one person that's designated to sign these contracts, that is all. We're probably 30, 45 minutes into this. And as long as the commission can maybe amend this, if you are OK with the vice mayor being the alternative. And there I understand there's a second reading. Maybe we can amend it tonight and we can actually move forward unless this body wants to not amend it, but I would appreciate it if I could be removed from it. So there's no more confusion about me doing a power grab. Thank you, City Manager. There's been a lot that has been thrown around and I just, you know, when this was brought to my attention, you know, this is one of those things that when we brought in an in-house city attorney and staff, this is one of those things that I know I expected. And though, although everything has been working the way it should or the way it has been working in years past, what I'm understanding is that they're not really sure that there was authority for those things to happen then. And so now it's not necessarily, it's more of a, let's clarify and have it in writing as to what has been happening in the past so that it is clear moving forward what is going on and what has been going on. And so I know that there's some concerns that this is a last minute all of a sudden here where we're all talking about it. But my understanding is this is why we brought a city attorney in-house is to find these discrepancies and to find these loopholes and to see what we've been doing in the past, are we doing it the way we should be doing it? Are we doing it the way that is legal and that is proper? And if we're not, what do we need to do to fix it? And this is one of those things that's my understanding that has been recommended by the city attorneys that we have brought in to find these loopholes to fix what hasn't, it has been happening that maybe wasn't actually supposed to be happening the way it was happening. That's my understanding, but in my many conversations with the city attorneys that we have Solicited to do this work on that they are recommending Also, this is not a Charter amendment. I don't think that that has ever been the city attorney's Position is that the charter, the actual charters would be amended. This is simply an ordinance that would allow and my understanding and you know Commissioner Cruz thank you for bringing up the charter. That charter section deals primarily with deeds and bonds and also situations where this city is a party. So the city got sued. The city is a plaintiff and that's my understanding is what that does and what the charter does is it says the mayor has to sign those documents. And that's my understanding is that that's not something that you're even suggesting be affected and touched at all. And obviously you know that you can't ask us to amend the charter and it's not a charter amendment that's before us today. So while city manager, I appreciate your willingness to forego those signing privileges as they've been proposed, we are all here part time. And I know that there have been times when people have had to drive documents to my office to sign them because the mayor wasn't available. And so I want to make sure that we are also being like Commissioner Trirkin said that we're being good stewards of our city and that we're making sure that it's flowing. How many times have we had, it has happened, I know more than once, where we have signed parking agreements that have already happened for events that already happened, because there wasn't a commission meeting by the time before that event took place. And so I don't want to see that the city then becomes less efficient because we're trying to make sure that the mayor signs it or the vice mayor signs it because at the end of the day, most of these agreements that are being proposed don't involve any monetary value. And for instance Five that's employment. I don't want to touch that with a 10-foot pole I don't want we don't have any Decision-making we have no involvement in employment decisions or anything and I don't want my name on an employment agreement or You know were a hiring or firing of employment. So I don't necessarily, I am comfortable if that's the will of the body. This is first reading, so the mayor will hopefully be back at the next one. And if not, maybe then we can table it. I think that maybe there's some things that maybe can be adjusted. But, or if there's a consensus to table it, we table the item until the mayor is here. But I don't wanna lose focus on all of the, on what the purpose of this is, and it really is to keep the city running efficiently and not for any other reason than that. So that's my position on that but like I said if it's the will of the commission to table it until the mayor's here to have his discussion. Mr. Mugr, this is first reading so typically we don't have public comment. Sorry, I know I saw you. Sorry about that. No problem. So that's my position on that as I feel like this is something, this is a whole reason that we brought in this city attorney and they found this loophole and they're just wanting it to be clarified so that what has been happening in the past now is set forth correctly that can continue to happen as it has been happening in the past. So that's my position but so that's where we are. So either, so I will just call for a motion, so we can move this forward. Can I just say one thing? I just want to clarify. This was not brought about because the mayor is not here to sign things. That's certainly not what I am suggesting or that he's been absent in his duties or any of those things. But these are basic day-to-day things that have no expenditure that do not create liability on the city. And these are the typical sort of things that just need to be done quickly for efficiencies. And also to save this board time, for example, do you want to see every adopter road program agreement? We will do whatever it is you want to do, but I just want to make clear this has nothing to do with the mayor not being present. But one of the things we have to consider in the future is we don't know who our future commissioners will be, right? And so, you know, you may have someone like Commissioner Hay, who is retired, who has no problem getting here. But then you can also have somebody like I know Commissioner Cruz is very busy on many boards and many things. And, you know, so whatever the board wants to do, we just want to make sure. And I'll give you a prime example. There was a contract signed by your former city manager that in our opinion, illegal, you know, and yes, are we playing Monday, Morning, Quarter, Back, We Are? But that city manager did not have authority to sign that agreement. That should have come to this board. And what this does, what- I can't say involvement was involved in that. I can't say. But we're in litigation with them right now. But the point being that we need to have clear lines as to and we're fine with whatever that is. We just need clear lines and then so who can do what? Because that's not there right now and we need direction. And this is the best way that whatever happens is consistent throughout the years with your future city managers with your future city attorneys and with your future board members. Thank you city attorney. So I call for a motion. So I call for a motion. We're a real quick on the motion. Motion. Motion to approve that. I wouldn't need to see this with amendments. I want to clarify the. Point of the charter. Is what's before us necessary to go for referendum? Because I mean, if that is the case, then, you know, I'm an amassing legal counsel because they went to school for this, is that the case? Because if that is, then we shouldn't even be having this conversation, 30, 40 minutes, you know. So what the points that the commissioner brought up, you know. So what the the points that the Commissioner brought up, you know, the deeds and the bonds and the reference to the charter does that apply to what we're discussing to today? Where is that irrelevant? So in our opinion, we read Article 7 of the charter to say that the city commission has the power to enter into contracts in behalf of the city. That is the basic statement that power belongs to this commission as a whole. It does not belong to any single mayor. When you get to article 10 of the charter, it says it establishes the mayor's duties and responsibilities and it lists out a number of things. One of which is he shall do sign, deeds, bonds, etc. When authorized by the city commission. It is creating a duty and responsibility for him. It is not saying he is the only person in our opinion and the opinion of other legal scholars that we've talked about and to be perfectly honest and consistency with your past practices here. Again, when you look at your code of ordinances, you've this city throughout years and decades has adopted multiple ordinances, delegating signature authority, whether it be to your city manager, your city attorney, your public works director, your public utilities director, your engineering director, your director of finance, there's probably a dozen ordinances delegating this type of authority, which is representative of the fact that your prior council did not read these provisions to be solely authorizing the mayor to do these types of things. Rather, we look at it as permissive and limiting right the city commission has this authority and the mayor is authorized to do so if the city commission says so so we do not see this as a charter issue we don't see this as something that needs to go for referendum to amend your charter we don't see this as a charter conflict no respectfully Okay. So it's not a charter conflict. Would it make you feel better, Commissioner, if we did a carve out to ensure that? I'm just going to read it and again the mayor shall sign all deeds bonds or Other instruments of writing to which the city is a party when authorized to do so by the commission So that third one You could argue that it entails What we're discussing, no? I mean, I just, I mean, this is a very good point. The charter is a very good point, Commissioner. So I want to make sure that, you know, we're, I'm a researcher. I like to search for things, but good. And that's not, listen, I don't want to continue getting into a lengthy 10 hour conversation, but I read the charter, I read the entire charter. And when I saw this ordinance, it reminded me of section 7 and 10, and we've had discussions about this in private as well. So it's not like I'm just bringing this up now. It's something that I've discussed before. And, you know, certain times with legal stuff, you can agree to disagree. Maybe one person sees it one way and that's why there's people suing each other and there's judges, that's why there's attorney generals. That's why city attorneys are asking the attorney general for their opinion on what they think. That was, you know, I'm not an attorney, but is what you know this is what I read and that's the way that I had the conversation with our city attorney before so I felt my duty to bring it up because it's I think it's the right thing to do I'm not saying that it's the end all be all but I am saying that it is something that is relevant in this conversation. Sure. And as Commissioner Cruz and I have discussed, you cannot read one thing in a blanket. Our legal opinion, and after having done being a lawyer for 26 years, I do not believe this violates the charter. If you guys determine today that it violates the charter, there's about 12 other ordinances you need to repeal. If that's the way you read the charter and that's the way this commission deems, it wants to read the charter. We have about 12 other ordinances that need to be repealed, giving signature authority to the building official, to the planning official, to the community standards official, to the police department, to utilities, to all of those. Anytime, if that's how we're reading the charter, anytime that you have delegated authority for someone else to sign, would then be incorrect and needs to be appealed. And we then have to change the way everything is done in the city. And I'm okay with that. If that's how this commission deems to interpret the charter. I just want to say one thing just to know I'm glad you brought this up because it's making me just one thing just real quick. The biggest concern that I've addressed a few minutes ago was specifically procurement contracts because the city is a party to those contracts. And as I mentioned before, this is the biggest one that was kind of a red flag to me that I wanted to discuss. I don't want to continue to go on this tangent and continue to have longer conversations. I think this is something that we can probably take offline, have individual conversations. And you know- That would be a sunshine violation. No, I'm not doing that. This is. I'll line with the city attorney. Yeah. Okay. The attorney conversations are not sunshine violations. Okay. Commissioner Turk and you made a motion a while ago. So can you repeat your motion? I'm gonna I'm going to, I can't make that motionless. I have clarity on on the charter thing and I need to look into that further. That's a very good point. And you know, if we what what happens to all those contracts that were signed, you know, the 12 other signature authorities if that is indeed a charter violation. What I mean, what will what what happens with that? Are you saying they're not valid? That's not good. That's not good. That's not good. That means everything you've done for the past 30 years could arguably be invalid. That's what I thought you were alluding to. And this again, and in this case, Commissioner Cruz, I'm glad you brought it up. And it warrants a long discussion. I may be a slow learner right now, but I don't feel comfortable with this and I'm not going to move forward to it until I'm educated more about what's really going on here and I don't hear it right now. Here's what I could possibly suggest as a happy medium if it pleases the board. I would recommend tabling this to the next commission meeting. At that workshop, when we have that workshop on Thursday before the next meeting, I'll be bringing Pam Ryan, who is a board certified in municipal law attorney to do a presentation as to regard to our charter. Okay. to do a presentation as to with regard to our charter. Okay? And her interpretation and whether or not this is a charter violation. We can have that discussion at the workshop, get a consensus at that point, whether we should go forward for first reading at the next meeting on September 3rd. If the, if, And then everyone will be here as well. If it please. The meeting will be open to the public. It is open to the public, however, there is no public comment because it is just a workshop. Right. I would consent to that. I will go along with that. Yes. I agree with Commissioner. Okay, so can I have a motion motion please? Motion to table the item. Seconded. All those in favor to table item 10a. Say aye. Aye. Aye. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes 10a is tabled. Moving on to 10B. City Clerk, can you please read the ordinance into the record. Proposed ordinance number 24-017 for a reading ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Boyton Beach, Florida. I'm ending the city of Boyton Beach's Code of Ordnance's Chapter 15 offenses and miscellaneous Article 9. Community appearance and maintenance section 15-120. Minimum standards for appearance and maintenance of public property and private property providing for conflict, severability, codification, and providing for an effective date. Thank you, Cindy Clerk. Before you start, Ms. Stone, Commissioner Turkin, you had some questions with regard to swales and those sort of things. So before we go into a long presentation on this, I just wanted to know if you wanted to have discussions before we see this presentation. Yes, Vice Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to table this item. Thank you. We have a motion to table item 10B. Do we have a second? Second. All those in favor to table 10B? Say aye. Aye. All those opposed, say nay. Motion passes, we are tableing 10, B. Thank you. I didn't want you to do the whole presentation knowing that that was possibly the way that was. OK, well. No worries. OK, we've already heard 10, C. So we're going on to 10, D, Commission discussion and presentation. Could I request for this to be tabled to the budget discussion? Because it's very short. Legal or something very? Do we have enough? That's going to be right, should you talk about? Yeah, because it's part of the budget. I know, but my concern is if we delay this conversation, do we have enough time? I don't want to delay it if we're then gonna cause and run into an issue where we're up against anything. Vice Mayor, commissioners. Poonum Calcutte. Director of utilities. Can I have my presentation? Please. The rate. Structured revisions. Director Calcutte. So, Commissioner Cruz was asking to consider possibly table this item. I didn't want to move that motion forward without knowing if there was any issue because it would put us right up against budget hearings to table this item. So I didn't want to move that motion forward if we're running into any issue with having this discussion right up against the next, you know, our budget meetings. There is no issue. We haven't changed anything. There's nothing revised. Commissioner Cruz had some questions on it and wanted us to do some comparisons and that's what we did. And it's the same rate presentation that you've seen before in July and we've just done some rate comparisons that you have in front of you. So it's up to the board if you want me to do the presentation I can. I don't think it should cause any problems so you can approve or not approve the budget at that time. The September 3rd meeting, so it's your discretion. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Cruz. Motion at table. All those in favour to table item 10D. Say aye. Aye. Any opposed to tableing 10D, say nay. Motion passes item 10D is tabled. May I do we have anything? Are there any comments or anything before I ask for a motion to adjourn? Okay. And I have a second. Thank you. All those in favor to take to adjourn the meeting? Say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Meeting is adjourned at 9.54 p.m. Thank you.