Welcome to the City of St. Petersburg City Council Meeting. Your elected officials are Mayor Ken Welch, District 1 and Council Chair, Hopeley Gertis, District 2, Brandy Gabbard, District 3, Mike Harding, District 4, and Council Vice Chair, LaSeth Hanowitz, District 5, Deborah Fick Sanders, District 6, Gina Driscoll, District 7, Corey Gibbons Jr., and District 8, Richie Floyd. Good morning. We'll call to order the April 3, 2025 City Council meeting. We do roll call please. Hannah what's here? Exander's. Driscoll here. Givens here. Floyd here. Curtis here. Gabbard here. Harding here. Thank you. Okay. we have our invocation given by Pastor Leot Harold, Pinellas County Community Church, followed by a moment of silence and honor or fall in officers and then please remain standing for our Pledge of Allegiance. If everybody can please stand. Thank you everyone. Good morning. Thank you so much for having me. Please by our hands. Heavenly Father, we come before you this morning with open hearts and open minds, God. And I ask that you give them wisdom and guidance as they preside over all of these matters, Father. I thank you for your hand of guidance. I thank you for your blessings. I pray that you continue to keep our city and bless not only our city, but all those that lead us. And thank you for this day. And thank you for all that is going on. And thank you for this day. I thank you for all that is going on. I thank you for your blessings. In Jesus name, amen. Amen. Please join me in a moment. I'm silence for Officer James A. Crep. Last watch April 15th, 1964. Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you so much. And thank you for that beautiful invocation. Thank you for being here with us this morning. Okay, council members, we have an agenda in front of us. I'll entertain a motion for approval. We have a motion to second, seeing there's no further discussion. Clerk, could you please open the machine for voting? Council members, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present council members have voted, voted. Clerk could you please tally and announce the vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to approve the agenda passes unanimously. Okay we have a consent agenda. Council members do we have any cards? Mr. Chair we do not. Okay. Council members we have a consent agenda. Seeing is no discussion. I'll entertain a motion for approval. Approval. Second. Okay we have a motion as second. Could you please open the machine for voting. Council members, please enter your votes. All present. Members have voted. Please tally and announce the vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to approve the consent agenda passes unanimously. Thank you. All right. We'll move into open forum. Clerk, could you read the rules? list in the agenda. Please you please read the rules. 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When it is your turn to speak, you will be unmuted and asked to state your name and address. At the conclusion of your comments, or when you have reached the three-minute time limit, you will be muted. All raised hands will be lowered after each agenda item. Regardless of the method a participation used, normal rules apply, including the three-minute time limit on comments. The requirement that any presentation materials must be submitted in advance of the meeting and the rules of decorum. If live public comments is disrupted by violations of the rules of decorum, the chair is authorized to accept public comments by alternate means including by email only and Mr. Chair we do have some speakers. Okay, please call to the time. The first two speakers are Michael Crowen and Walt Diggers. Please go to either podium, state your name and address for the record. You'll have three minutes to address council. Which okay perfect I didn't know which one I want to go first here. So I wasn't trying to be rude. Good morning, everyone. First of all, it's great to be with everyone here today. And I've been watching these meetings very closely since I moved to St. Petersburg. I mean, we need your name and a Sure. Sorry, apologies. Michael Cronin, 225, first avenue north. And like I said, I have been watching a lot of you since I moved down here, specifically, and that's what I want to talk about today, the Trappicana Field Roof Repairs and the project going forward. We all know a certain someone in this city right now is public enemy number one, but that does not mean that we do not go forward with our responsibilities as a city and show the world, the Major League Baseball and other businesses as well, that we will honor our agreements. I know it's been talked about, like I mentioned, that I've been watching these council meetings about honoring our word. And as we know, by the 1995 use agreement, the city is obligated to repair Trapa Canaphyl. Obviously, today would be a first in the right direction. And I think it's a very important that we show a strong statement of support for this, as ultimately the world is watching. And as you all know, the the trop and the roof situation is unfortunately a very sad symbol of what happened to us last fall. I mean, I can tell you I was in the UK and this was on BBC number one. I mean, that just shows you how impactful this was. We need a municipal facility for a city of our size, obviously. We've already seen how many events have been rescheduled, have had to be postponed, and to have a large municipal facility, again, for a city of our size as an absolute must. The other thing is that if we go forward with this, we'll ultimately have leverage regarding next steps. Obviously, I think most people were disappointed about the situation, regardless of if you supported the exact details of the plan, regarding the new stadium, but going forward, we again will have leverage, especially considering the situation with the ownership group and clearly not having having billionaire funds, we'll call it, sufficient funds to go forward with the larger plan that potentially we could look at an alternative plan that builds around the trap. I urge the mayor and the city administrator, as well as the council, to look at what was done with Roger's Center in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, a $300 million renovation project, and that ultimately could be a possibility for the Tropicana field repair and renovation going forward after we get it back to working order. And the last thing I want to mention is the employees of the Tropicana that ultimately we want to go forward with this to help them. There's 4,000 employees at Tropicana field. There's also 120 businesses in the area that ultimately see a lot of bleed over from raise games. And when we talk about just the financials, we're talking about 56.7 million, I believe. The raise were supposedly making $100 million a year in revenue. It's a pretty easy call to see how much they would want to settle. This is clearly the fiscal path forward. Thank you very much Good morning. My name is Walt Diggers one Beach Drive Southeast 1811 St. Petersburg Florida 33701 Good morning chair and council members. I'm here today to say thank you for supporting friends of our witness airport scholarship program And I want to give you an update of where we are on that. This Saturday we're going to be giving out 29 scholarships valued at $184,000, bringing our total for the three scholarships we've done to $425,000. Thanks to generous people like you. Saturday we'll be awarding $4,000 scholarships, $14,5,000 scottleships to help people get to their private pilot's license. The starters just introduce people to aviation to see if they like it. And we'll be doing 11 $10,000 scottleships, which help people with the private pilot's license get their commercial, their instrument, their flight instructor, their multi-engine rating, all the advance ratings they need to get a professional flying job. Now the $10,000 obviously doesn't cover all of that, but it helps them along the way, and it works very well for them. To earn the scholarship, the applicant needs to fill in an application. They do an essay and they have to get two letters of recommendation unless they're doing it advanced. Then they have to get a letter from their flight instructor. So I'd like to just give you one story to show you how well this program is working. We're going through the applications. My wife is all in on this stuff and she's in it. She says read this letter and it was from a flight instructor recommending his student. And so I looked at that and the flight instructor's name was a flight instructor who on our very first inaugural scholarship was working on his private pilot license. Now he has his commercial license, his instrument rating, his flight instructor's rating. He has a professional job as a flight instructor while he builds his experience and his time so he can get on the airlines which is his ultimate goal. It's working. I'd like to say. He'll be speaking Saturday to talk about how that meets to him. Many of you will hear it. Others might choose to go to like Napa Valley or somewhere like that. I don't know that something is more fun. These scholarships are changing the trajectory of people's young people's lives live in St. Petersburg and Pinellas County. So I thank you so very much for participating with us. That's two speakers. Last speaker is Jeremy Tolberg. Please state your name and address for the record. You'll have three minutes to address council. Morning. My name is Jeremy Tolberg. I live at 417 Lido Way in St. Petersburg. I know it's typically considered bad manners when you've been proven right to say we told you so. But it's really hard to conceive of an outcome proving us more correct than what just happened with the stadium fiasco. And in this case, the public almost had to pay almost $2 billion for the lesson. Hundreds of us stood up here speaking to officials and committees over the months, repeating the facts again and again. One, public finance, stadiums are unnecessary endeavors that provide no appreciable benefits to the areas they're located in. 2. This area faced a long overdue natural disaster. And 3. The owner of this team for more than 10 years now has proved to be nothing but a greedy, arrogant bully. In this case, we only misjudged two things. One that a second storm would hit our area. And 2. We seriously misjudged the greed and arrogance of Mr. Sternberg. Supporters on this council agreed to every one of Mr. Sternberg's demands while neglecting and negotiate the best possible fiscal deal for the constituents of this city. And yet, even that wasn't enough. Sternberg literally couldn't make it through his subsequent council meetings without spitting in our faces and threatening to abandon this lopsided sweetheart deal. And yet, and here's the sad part, the stadium supporters on this council never bothered once to show the courage to take a stand and reject this fiasco. One supporter on this council asked for time to gather himself, like he was gonna burst into tears over a billionaire rejecting a pork barrel deal of free taxes, public debt and cheap land. Here's some free advice for all the supporters on the council and every other one. Save your sympathy and concern for the people who actually deserve it. There's still thousands of people who are displaced after the hurricane. There's already people struggling to get by. There's small business owners who are having a difficult time in this current economic reality that we're facing in the area, not to mention the real estate that's facing the situation that's facing the city. I don't see good things ahead. Everyone else in the city who's not a multi-billionaire filling up their bank accounts with public dollars deserves your sympathy far more than Mr. Sternberg and the team. We're facing untold dollar amounts to repair this city and reinforce our infrastructure for the next event to come. There's entire neighborhoods that have been decimated and it's a shameful embarrassment that this council and our mayor have wasted untold amounts of time, money and attention, groveling to a Wall Street billionaire who has never shown anything but contempt for this area. Anyone on council who supported buying him a stadium through every obvious red flag, willingly torched your ethics, integrity, and reputation. Voters will absolutely remember the endless, fawning speeches about Mr. Sternberg and the attempted rebranding of him as a valued community partner, instead of exactly what he's consistently showing himself to be. I strongly urge all of you to follow Council members Floyd Hannah, what's a Mohammed for their integrity and consistency. Thank you. Mr. Chair, no more speakers. OK, we'll go ahead and close open forum. And we'll move into our first time of the day. Resolution, and I think we've got Joe Patner joining us. I wish I was heading to NAP, but I don't know who that would be. Thank you, Councilman. I'm a settlement on the Sanchez Mayan case. This case arises out of a transport ban. Injuries with catastrophic injuries with paralyzed limbs and amputated legs currently, as of last month, 795,000 in medical expenses and accruing at additional 39,000 a month. We have a settlement proposed of 2.5 million, of which 200,000 will be paid, due course following approval by council, 2.3 million will be sought in a claims bill. We would be then responsible for that if and when that should go through. I just wanna talk about a couple things of how we got here. Procedurally, a suit was filed last year. We moved to dismiss the claims. The federal judge granted a lot of what we wanted. Ultimately, all allegations involving intentional acts by the officers were dropped. What was ultimately settled here was one count of negligence, which is an accident. That's what a negligence and short version of it is. So with that, I turn it to council, I support, I think it's as good a deal as we're going to get happy to answer any questions about what I just said if need be. Okay we have a motion in a second just quickly I'll say Joe thanks for all the work on this thanks for the continuous updates the whole legal department I know Rob you were involved as well. And so just I know this was a large lift and a long time and ultimately, I think this got to where it should have, which is I think there was a lot of talk of being something other than an accident and it got back to exactly what it was, which was an accident. So I appreciate all the work. Thanks for getting at their joe. And I'm very happy to support this, and thanks for all the work that you continue to do. Okay, we have a motion in a second. Seeing as no further discussion, Clerk, could you please open the machine for voting? Councilmember, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present council members have voted, Clerk, please tell you an announce the vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to approve agenda item I1 passes unanimously. Thank you, Councilor President. Thank you. Okay. Council members have voted, please tally and announce the vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to approve agenda item I1 passes unanimously. Thank you, Council Member. Thank you. Okay, instead we're a little premature of 930 to move into public hearing. So we're going to move to the first report item on high water vehicles. And I'm going to turn it over to Vice Chair Hannah Witz. I know you pulled this from consent for good news and so Vice Chair. Thank you. Thank you Chair. Well this is very exciting news. I know for the fire department who's been looking for high water vehicles and when we had originally spoken about this my understanding is that we would have gotten one vehicle and the The team has worked really hard, including fleet in the fire department to not get one, but get three vehicles. And by the way, they didn't need one. They needed more than one. We thought we were only gonna be able to get one. But I want to first thank Station 4 for their advocacy, because it was Station 4 after the storm I had gone and asked them, you know, what can city council do? This was after Hurricane Alene to help and that's the one number one thing that they asked for and it wasn't just one shift I asked. I asked more than one shift and it was consistent and I am so thankful that everyone on city council agreed that this was a priority for our city It's extremely necessary especially for those neighborhoods that flood so I'm happy to turn this over to the chief So he can go ahead and tell us a little bit about the high water vehicles Morning everybody appreciate your time this morning I've put together just a few slides for everyone to go along with. As Council Member Hanewitz said, these are critical to our mission of rescuing and saving people and later in the slide deck you'll see the utilization from I went back to Hurricane Irma and all the times that we've used to rescue and evacuate citizens with the high water vehicle that we currently have. have and then other assets that we've had to borrow from city departments at times. So this will give us the opportunity to have them in our fleet, make sure they're maintained and utilize them when needed. So we appreciate it. There we go. This is our current brush seven. It's in our fossil park station, station number seven. Utilize it quite frequently for high water rescues. It's an asset that we've had in our fleet for over a decade. So it is aging, does need frequent maintenance. So these three new vehicles will be a well welcome relief for it. The high water vehicle specifications that we're getting, the three vehicles are recondition trucks. They all have air conditioning. They have bench seating in the beds. They're going to have ton of covers, which I have an example of picture of. Two of the three vehicles are going to have fire pumps on them for firefighting capabilities. And then they're also going to have a lift gate, which is going to be a side lift gate capable of taking people and stretchers and wheelchairs from the ground level to the bed of the vehicle. This is an example of actually what we're getting with the ton of cover in the back for protective cover. And then here is one without. It still has the stake bed in the side cover. And as I said, that lift gate will be on the side of the vehicle to bring people from the street level when we're evacuating them. Example of the lift gate, this one's on the rear. Ars are going to be on the side with a side entry. And that way as we pull up to occupancy or the residents it'll be right there we won't have to bring anybody around the back into any further flood waters or anything like that. Two of the three will have firefighting pumps as we've seen before we have issues in areas of the city that flood where we can't get fire engines to so we'll have the capability of bringing these apparatus to those fires put put the pump in service, and then actually effectively extinguish the fire. So talking about the utilization, going back to 2017, these are the events that we've used them, and it hasn't just been one pocketed area. We talked about station four and shore acres, but as we've experienced from last summer through the two hurricanes, we've had flooding all the way out on the west end, all the way up into Gandy area and then Lake McGory. So our old issues we've always had, and we've developed some areas of the city where okay, now we've got flooding every time now. So this gives us the opportunity to place those vehicles north, south, west, and then currently utilize still brush seven at station seven. So we'll have all areas of the city covered by these. In Irma, we did four non-emergency evacuations. Adalias where the utilization really, really increased. So in a three hour period during Adalia, I was in the Fire Subcenter. We rescued 75 civilians in 18 pets in three hours. So that was when we said, hey, we've identified a need. We really have a need for this. So Hurricane Debbie, seven vehicles in flood water, one non-emergency evacuation, and then last summer, September 3rd, fourth rain event, where we had flooding in the city, where we've never had before. The first day we had five vehicles in the flood water the second day we had 50. So we were chasing with the one high water vehicle that we had all over the city to try and make sure that there was no citizens trapped. And then we all know Hurricane Helene. So we had four vehicles in the flood water and we did 430, 430 citizens that we evacuated with the hot water vehicles. So with the one that we had and the others that we borrowed that didn't have the lift gate, we were having to put together laddering systems. I mean these are going to save lives. That's the bottom line of it. A couple special thanks. So, on the fleet, Randall Johnson, Todd Phillips from Fleet, they were a big driver and assisting us in here. Stephanie Scarborough and Tanner Green from Percurement. And then once again, I do want to, our sincere appreciation from the fire chief and myself to City Council for helping us move this forward. We really do appreciate it. Councilmember Governe. Thank you chair. First of all I want to start by thanking Council Vice Chair Hanowitz for bringing this item forward so quickly in the days after the storm. When many of us were just trying to catch our breath and you brought us something very actionable and I appreciate that. Thank you, Foreign Rescue, very dear to me and so in those moments when we were living through the storm, you were never far from any of our minds and knowing that you were putting your own lives at risk as you do every single day to rescue, especially in Haleen 430, you mentioned. Unfortunately in Riviera Bay, we did have one elderly resident who did pass away. We don't know that there would have been anything we could have done that could have saved that gentleman, but these particular vehicles, we know will save lives into the future. Very, very important that we make this action today. I'm very supportive, so thank you again. Thank you for your leadership and Randall. Thank you for helping us get more. I think my only question would be, is this enough? Do we need to be talking as the city continues to grow as we have more and more areas that are being and in dated with flooding? Is this enough? Well, as you see, call volume increase as we see different types of emergencies, the storms, we're gonna identify more needs. That's for sure. And we will absolutely bring them forward. Okay. Very good. I would be very supportive of having those conversations. So please, I would say with great urgency, bring us those needs as they come forward before we are in the situation where we need them. Absolutely. All right very good. Thank you chair. Thank you. Council member Gibbons. Thank you so much chair. I just want to thank you so much Chief Siskoski for coming and speaking to us today. I want to thank Chief Watts for his diligence and I want to to thank Vice-Chair Hanowitz for bringing this forward. This is certainly good news. Anytime that you take steps in the right direction towards making sure that there's equity in emergency services, I commend you all. Knowing that all areas of our city is going to be covered here forward, that's exciting news. I'm so happy to be supporting this measure. I think about my district, in Broadwater, we experienced those torrential rains last summer. And, you know, this was the first for many of us and seeing videos going across. I'm so happy to be supporting this measure. I think about my district, in broad water, we experienced those torrential rains last summer. And this was a first for many of us and seeing videos going across social media, folks being rescued. I just want to thank you all for what you do because it's not easy. You put your lives on the front line. So thank you for being our first responders. And like Council Member Gabbert said, this is going to save lives. So I thank you all for being proactive and not reactive. Thank you very much, Chair. Thank you. Bye, Chair Hanowitz. Thank you, Chief. I like Council Member Gabbert said this is going to save lives. So I thank you all for being proactive and not reactive. Thank you very much, Chair. Thank you. Bye, Chair Hanowitz. Thank you, Chief, for the wonderful update on what these vehicles are going to do for our city. First of all, I want to say Chief Watts would be here, but he could not be here because he's traveling. He's in Tallahassee. So he's in Tallahassee. I wanted to be here. He's in Tallahassee. Is that what they're calling me? Legislative work in Tallahassee. So. Yes, he's working in Tallahassee. And he. He's in Tallahassee. So he's in Tallahassee. I wanted to be here. He's in Tallahassee. So what they're calling me is? Legislative work in Tallahassee. Yes. He's working in Tallahassee. And he reached out. And he told me that you were going to be covering this. So I just wanted to make sure that he was extremely supportive and very excited about this also. But I just want everyone to understand. I mean, these vehicles, when you look at the lift gates, for instance, those old vehicles, you had the elderly individual. I just want everyone to understand. I mean, these vehicles, when you look at the lift gates, for instance, those old vehicles, you had elderly individuals that you had to put into trucks. Via a ladder. So yes, this is a tremendous advancement for us. It's a huge deal. And when you think about the firefighting pumps, and we saw those videos of areas that were flooded with homes that were burning in the flood waters and places that were burning. This is going to help. Correct. Yes. Because you can't get to those areas with regular vehicles. No, there was an UNI spoke before. There was times during those storms that we were dropping John Boats in off the back of pickup trucks on 60-second Avenue Northeast just to get to people. There was a point where you couldn't drive a vehicle so this is gonna like you said this is gonna allow us to get in areas of the city for evacuation and fire protection that we've never been able to get to during some of these storms. It's wonderful when you covered also it's not just one area we know the areas that are the worst, but we have it throughout our city. And this is going to give this whole city a complete coverage. But I can't highlight more that the utilization and the timeline of storms that we've had from 2017 to 2024. Between the hurricanes, you not just have hurricanes, you have flood events. Yes. And we still remember the ones that September where vehicles were caught in areas that were unexpected because the rain came so quickly and so fast, those areas can't drain fast enough. I was on 34th Street for the first time in almost 24 years and almost waste deep water. So that was the, but yeah. Yeah. So I, you know, that's extremely important to understand that these vehicles are going to help not just for hurricanes or after hurricanes, but in the heavy rain and flooding events we've been seeing happen more often. So I'm so happy that we could give you the tools. This like Council Member Gavard says this is to save lives and to also protect lives not just the citizens but you're all when you go out there. I'm sure that you have the equipment you need. So I'm very happy that this happened that we got to do this and not just one vehicle but three. And with that I move approval. Okay. We have a motion second just quickly. I have one question that I'll make a couple of comments. Have we identified the stations? So no, we're going to take a look upon delivery. And we have areas for identified, but we have to probably move some reserves around. So I was just curious. I would love that update when that decision is made. I'll just echo quickly the efficiency of this, going what we thought was going to be one to three. Had I known that, then I would have pushed my button a lot faster on that vote. Because that efficiency is awesome. And it's very few and far between that we go and get something that I hope we don't use. But I know we're going to. And just a very appreciative vice chair, Hannah Witts. Thank you to administration and to staff for getting this done quickly and efficiently. This really worked and I'm very appreciative and so I'm not looking forward to them going to use but I'm glad we have them. Okay, we have a motion in a second. Seeing as no further discussion, Clerk, could you please open the machine for voting? Council members, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present, Council members are voted. Clerk, please stallion and announce the vote. You can hear the motion to approve agenda item F2, passes unanimously. Okay, thank you so much. Thank you all very much. Thank you. And I love when a plan comes together, because now we'll move to our public hearing at 9.30, right on the dot. And I think we have Cheryl Begallo joining us for a variance in the west side. Good morning. Good morning. For the record, Cheryl Begallo with Development Review Services. So what you have before you now is a hearing for a variance associated with a plat. At 5, 6, 357th Avenue North. So the request is for approval of a variance pursuant to the city subdivision code related to the plating of three lots without public street frontage in the 7th Avenue North Villa's preliminary plan. A total of four lots are proposed, three do not have frontage on a public street. An existing private street is proposed to serve the lots instead of a public street and no other variances are required. This is a map of the location of the property. The subject property consists of six and a half platted lots in the neighborhood traditional one zoning district. The lots are in common ownership and currently contain a house and in associated improvements. The total tracked area is 51,014 square feet or 1.17 acres. The applicant proposes to plat the site into four buildable lots following the north-south orientation of the existing lots and the lots in the neighborhood. The lots will be laid out along an existing private street which is covered by a private ingress egress easement. Three of the four lots will not have access to a public street they will front on the private street and have rear access to a 16 foot public alley which contained sanitary sewer. The private street is a portion of 7th Avenue North between 56th and 58th streets North, which is vacated in 1958 and dead ends at 58th Street North. There's a private access easement over the street, which was recorded in 1990, and that extends to the owners along the private street. It contemplates further division of parcels along the easement. Each proposed lot will comply with minimum lot area with and depth requirements. Lot two, the big lot will retain the existing house and will comply with impervious surface ratio, building coverage, and floor area ratio requirements. The proposed density of 3.4 units per acre will conform with and as well below the 15 unit per acre maximum of the NT1 zoning district. The hardship related to the site includes its large size and width, which is 325 feet, in relation to the minimum requirements of the NT1 zoning district, which are 4,500 square feet and 45 feet of width respectively. The parcel has sufficient width for seven minimum 45 foot lots along the private street. Three lots could be platted without variance along 50 strict 56 St. North, which is a public street. However, they would be very deep, 325 feet deep, and their east-west orientation would not match the rest of the neighborhood. Further, only one lot would be served by the 16-foot alley, and the house could not be saved under that scenario. The proposed layout of the subdivision will be consistent with the adjacent block faces, where most lots were developed at 45 to 77 feet wide. The application satisfies the variance review criteria, is in harmony with the general purpose and intent of the land development regulations, and is consistent with the land use policy in the land use plan as described in the staff report. This is the applicant's drawing showing the proposed demolition of structures on the property before the subdivision can take effect. Structures like a tennis court, some canopies, a gazebo, and the circular driveway. Here are some photos of the subject property from the private street. You can see the one house and some fencing. Here's a view, the left image is a view toward the private street from 56 Street North and a view toward the site from 56th Street North. So, city departments had no objection. Engineering has no objection provided that the special conditions and standard comments in the review memo are added as a condition of approval. approval, primarily making sure that each buildable lot has its own separate water and sewer service lines and water resources have similar comments. There were no objections from sanitation, fire, and police. There was an objection from Duke Energy, which can be satisfied once the applicant provides them a private easement for their facilities on their property. So this slide shows the summary of public comments. There were five overall commenters. The first four were concerned with drainage, sewers, and traffic. And there was a registered opponent the private the owners along the private street. So the DRC held their hearing on this matter on February 5th, 2025. At that hearing the registered opponent requested that no driveways be allowed on the private street except for the existing house on proposed lot two. The applicant agreed to that request, which is now a condition of approval. The DRC considered the comments received and found that three additional lots would not increase flooding traffic or sewer issues in the area. They opine that those are city wide issues not specific to this neighborhood and that there's already a significant amount of impervious coverage on the parcel, which would be removed. So the net increase in impervious coverage would not be substantial. The DRC voted unanimously to recommend approval of the variance. So staff continues to recommend approval of the variance, subject to recommended conditions of approval, and these are the recommended conditions that are in the resolution. The conditions one is the one that the registered opponent requested and the applicant agreed to regarding driveway access to the private street. Number two requires that all improvements be removed from lots of one, three and four prior to finalization of the plat. Three compliance with the review memos for receipt of a letter of no objection from Duke Energy and five through eight are general conditions regarding site plan approval etc And that's the end of my presentation if you'll wait for questions Okay, thank you councilmember what thank you. I just put myself on here to say two quick things. One is I was pleased to see that it seemed like there was a compromise came to in its previous hearing that satisfied the registered opponents concerns and I love to see that. The second thing I was going to say is this is in district 8 so it's nice to know that we're a little west side as well. Thank you. Okay councilmember Zaynertane motion for approval. A little approval. Second. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Attorney Dima will. So I don't know if there's a party representing the applicant here. I guess there is, yeah. I thought we asked earlier if it wasn't. This is Quasad judicial. Yeah, it is. Yes. Well Cheryl did a wonderful job. So anything I would present would be completely redundant. So I don't really have anything else to add. But I'm here to answer any questions you may have thanks So now there's any public comment No pump no public comment okay Any rebuttal start off with cross chair cross. Excuse me Staff has known Wave any closing closing. Staff has none. Wave. Any closing. Staff has none. Wave. Okay. Sorry. Now I'll entertain a motion for approval. Any comments from council members? Now would be an appropriate time for a motion. The approval of all the second. We have a motion of second seeing as no further discussion. Please enter the machine or open the machine for voting. Council members, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present council members have voted, clerk, please stallion and not the vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to approve agenda item E1 passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we'll move into F1. I think we have, mine says F1. Oh, I'm glad you asked. Yeah, you're right. You're good. You're right. Cheryl, welcome. Good morning. Hi. Good morning, everyone. Cheryl Stacks, Transportation and Perky Management. And I'm happy to be here to provide you with an update on a joint project across several departments, including stormwater pavement and traffic operations, as well as engineering and procurement. You may recall at about two years ago, the city was awarded a $1.159 million grant to boost traffic signal technology on certain state roads in St. Petersburg through the FDOT's Technology Application Partnerships with Local Agency's Program or TAPS LA. Our application was scored based on several criteria, including but not limited to safety, mobility, feasibility, and travel time efficiency. And it scored well enough for an award. Our project location includes the 15 signalized intersections in West St. Petersburg along 66 street from Pasadena Avenue to 38th Avenue North and Tyrone Boulevard from 5th Avenue North to Park Street. They're on the map on the right. So why these corridors? First they meet the eligibility requirement of being state roads from the grant, but there were several other factors that made them really good candidates. Three of the intersections are routinely listed among the police department's top 10 dangerous press intersections. Near the Tyrone Triangle, as I call it, where Tyrone and 66th Street intersect near 22nd Avenue North, those intersections are so closely spaced that congestion there can lead to significant variability in speeds and travel time consistency. Lastly, the corridors fill a gap between other corridors where similar technology has already been installed. So for example, this technology enables traffic signal priority, which much like we have on the Sunrunner corridor that's to the south of this project area. And the technology also enables adaptive traffic signal control, which is currently used on the sections managed by Pinellas County to the north and to the south of our project. The specific technology upgrades are categories on the list on the right side of the screen. They include new traffic signal controllers and cabinets which provides the hardware needed to implement the software that provides adaptive traffic signal control. The adaptive controls will extend green times, for example, that make the signals more responsive to actual traffic conditions. Importantly, the project includes as a specific requirement of the FDOT grant that roadside units are installed. And these are the pieces that really set the stage for introducing infrastructure that enables connected vehicle technology to talk to the roadside infrastructure. So this video has spent the last year or so and discovery and communications with our peers to consider which roadside units we think are best for St.P. in this project. The roadside units we're recommending have video detection embedded as a part of the device, which is really a real key benefit for us. Additionally, we'll still need to make upgrades to our communications technologies of the signal cabinets to enable fiber optic telecommunications that speeds up the data transmission between the signals and the field back to the equipment back at the city's traffic management center. And then finally, the project will allow us to put in a new video wall at the traffic management center for better citywide monitoring of our signalized intersections. Specifically the Traffic Signal Controller and Cabinet information is listed here. We'll get this from Econolite which is the company currently providing equipment through the city's existing blanket purchase agreement. I'd like to highlight as a matter of resilience we're including in the project ris, which will elevate the traffic signal cabinets and help protect them from localized flooding. Those, those risers are 18 inches tall. That's the picture on the bottom right in the screen. A little more about the road sign units that we're recommending. These are the only product in the marketplace right now with integrated video detection as a part of the equipment. So this means that we'll only need to install one piece of equipment at the intersection to get this technology and it's one piece of equipment to maintain over time. So maintenance should be less disruptive to traffic and safer for our employees working and then around the traffic. The devices have good reported reliability, good advanced detection of approaching vehicles and high resolution, and the AI object detection is good in getting better, getting smarter as it learns. And that's particularly important for detection of elements like pedestrians, right? So sometimes with video detection and object detection, they may not always see or recognize a pedestrian that might be walking. If the camera only sees a truck and can't see the pedestrian, that's why this product is really good. It's got, like I said, really good high resolution and object AI. So next, one element we're really excited about is the ability to leverage the grant for citywide benefit. The picture on the left shows the old video wall from our traffic management center that was removed when it was no longer operational. And the picture on the right shows the video wall at the EOC. So we're hoping to replicate what's at the EOC and provide that on a scale within our traffic management center. And that really provides staff with better opportunities to monitor traffic citywide, not just on these state roads where the grant funding is coming in from. The project schedule and costs are as listed. Again, the FUT funding is $1.159 million. It's got to be spent by the end of this year. And that budget works really well, can cover everything, although some activities are being performed in kind to help with the project budget. You can see that the hardware, the controllers and cabinets comprise about 27% of the project costs. And those video detection RSUs are about a third of the project costs. The others are in fiber optics, maintenance of traffic, project contingency in the video wall, and just general project administration. So our funding strategy would be as outlined on this slide. We'd request an increase in the existing BPA to purchase the cabinets. Stormwater payment and traffic operations has already worked through existing mechanisms to acquire and procure the controllers that are needed. And so we'd request authorization approval to purchase the RSUs through the sole source provider with the information provided in the backup. And these really represent our longest lead items that we needed in order to accomplish the project. So I think that's why we're coming to you with this now. And then there's still other elements of the project that would come later, but they're not as long-lead. So we'd like to get this equipment on order so that we can go ahead and get it ready to be queued up for our staff to go ahead and install it. And then we'll come back to you with other elements associated with the video wall and the software that's needed for the adaptive traffic signal control. So our requested actions are as on this slide to prove the purchase of the 15 integrated RSUs and improve the increase in the allocation on the blanket for the traffic signal cabinets. So with that, I am happy to entertain any questions. I also have Evan And morey Marshall Hampton, and Kevin Jackson, available to help answer questions as well. All start team. Council member Floyd. Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. Just have two quick questions. I'm trying to understand, I guess, the technology. And I get that like, you know, video detection allow for real time, like coordination with the lights for traffic. But then you mentioned like object detection, like pedestrians and whatnot. And I'm not sure what the cabinet would do about pedestrians. I guess if there's something stuck in the road, it might, but I don't really understand. Yeah. So the cabinet holds the traffic signal controller. And the controller does the timing since the cabinet responds to request from the video detection will detect the cars. It'll detect the pedestrians. We'll still have push buttons as a backup, but once it detects something, it'll send a call over to the controller and then the controller will adjust the timings and either provide the green, the red, the walk signal and those kinds of things. And so where the roadside unit comes into play, it adds information that the controller can consider in order to determine how much green time to give or does it need a pedestrian walk cycle here because oh we see that there's a pedestrian here or there wasn't a pedestrian there nobody's pushed the button we don't need to allow a walk so we can let traffic move in the other direction. Okay that makes sense and yeah I guess from the presentation you kind of get I at least got the impression that there might be some opportunity to do something Fancy or than that, but it is just for crossings and changing the lights Signal the equipment is really robust, but it needs Equipment in the cars and the vehicles to make it more robust and those aren't really commercially as available as they will be coming forward. Right now they're mostly in certain limited city fleets, certain car manufacturers, but as that technology gets embedded in more vehicles, then it will, the system will be more robust. So right now we're starting out using them as a light touch and with the adaptive controls, but it can grow into something better. Yeah, I appreciate that. If this was like just the city was investing in this, that it would be a lot harder of a lift because we don't know to what extent that technology might be adapted, but because it's a state grant and this is the direction of the state wants to move in, it's easy to support so I appreciate that. One other quick thing, don't know if you'll know but it's similar to some of the things we're just talking about you mentioned the new hardware is robust. I just wanted to know like will there be like you know say there's some sort of like hardware software malfunction is it going to default to like like standard traffic cabinet operation? Can you speak to that at all? It should as long as we keep our yellow and red timing the same as needed and by standard it should be fine. Everything should default back to what it what it needs to do. So there shouldn't be a significance concern in that regard. The city already has an agreement with FDOT whereby we maintain the signals on the state system and they pay us to do that. So if there's any adjustments that might be needed in that regard, if we're noticing that these are more expensive or whatever, we can certainly have those negotiations and conversations with FDOT. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I just ask because the continued functioning of a signal is crucial, the safety in the area and you introduce more technology and make something more complex, more opportunities for issues. And so I just want to make sure that all that's considered. And I'm sure it is. I just wanted to understand it myself. So thank you. Thank you. By share handouts. Thank you chair and thank you Cheryl for this update on this great grant. If I feel like we've leaped from the analog era to the digital era with this. And when I first saw this, what came to mind was the flooding events that we had back in September and council had a conversation about Getting information out to residents and what were Where were the best ways we could do this so people would know what the conditions were and so I'm wondering in terms of the Integrated video detection what you've talked about How is that help in terms of communication If there are any issues in these intersection and using that information to relay it to residents? Well, I think we're the biggest benefit of this grant comes into play is the fiber and the increased communications technology between the signals back to the traffic management center and the traffic management the video wall. So that's going to give staff a much better opportunity to address issues more quickly because they're not going to have to rely on people calling and telling them or other staffs observing that there's an issue going on. They're going to see it on the video wall. And so that's going to allow us to hone in on communications in certain areas and sell them, okay, well, this is an issue over in this area. This is an issue in this area. And it could be unrelated to a storm activity. It could just be that they've had a bad crash, or for example, when there was the redway depression over on Fifth Avenue North and 16th Street, those types of alerts become a lot, we can get those out or be aware of them much more quickly based on this fiber technology and the upgrades at the Traffic Management Center. Yeah, that's good to hear, because I think that's what drivers are gonna really want to see is we are implementing all this and you have all this technology information that's coming at us and being able to relay that back to make sure that people out there understand what the road conditions are. So I think that's a step in the right direction. Thank you so much. Thank you, Councillor Overhurry. Phil, thanks for your work on this. Have we talked about, or is there any plans for looking at EMS vehicles and adapting lights as they approach? Yes, yes. So we are underway in discussions with Penal's County to work on and working with our fire rescue. We have a little bit of a working group that we've started to discuss traffic signal preemption and prioritizing which intersections would be most beneficial to start putting that technology into place. The roadside units will allow for traffic signal preemption as well as traffic signal priority. But we have a small citywide kind of working group on traffic signal preemption along those lines, just trying to figure out where it's going to be most beneficial for fire rescue and least disruptive and causes fewer safety problems in other areas. Thank you very much. I assume that is not available in our current structure or analog structure. No, not yet. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. Very excited for this. It was up in Tallahassee last week with FDOT talking about this. And so the glomerate of lights there at Tyrone in 22nd and 66th Street and all of those things can get messy. And so very happy to see any technology that will help us deal with that very excited for what could come from this to vice share Hannah with this point, you know The light at 13th and 66th Street. I had to stop my car there last year on the way back from an event and park in the Bank parking lot because it was flooded and and if some of this technology gets just a couple steps further my car would have known from an event and park in the bank parking lot because it was flooded. And if some of this technology gets just a couple steps further, my car would have known and it would have told me to go a different way. And so I'm excited to get those types of warning system, amber alerts on my dash rather than having to look down at my phone, a crash if you're in the area. That's the kind of stuff that's coming with this technology. And I think it's really exciting for our city as we continue to grow. I think we're all experiencing it. I think we've been spoiled with not a ton of traffic. Now we have more traffic. And so anything that can help, I'm all for, especially on roads like 66th and Tyrone. So thanks for bringing this forward. Thanks for all the work. And if you wanna watch March Madness on the new traffic screen, I could be a fan of that. Okay, at this point, I'll entertain a motion for approval. Move approval. Thank you. I didn't wanna kill that one. I'm gonna kill that one didn't want to kill that one. I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, we have a motion to second. Seeing as no further discussion, clerk, could you please open the machine for voting? Council members, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present council members have voted, clerk, please stall you and not so vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to privilege in the item F1A passes unanimously. Thanks, everybody. Okay, we're going to move into F3, Tropicana Field, Roof Repair. Chair, the motion to privilege in the item F1A passes unanimously. Thanks everybody. Okay, we're going to move into F3, Tropicaly County Field, roof repairs. We've got Raoul, Quinsana, and Beth Herndin. Welcome, welcome. Good morning, council. Raoul Quintana, city engineering and capital improvements department. Here to share with you the report on the replacement of the trap roof. Just so that kind of give you just where we started on December 12th City Council authorized a design build agreement with Hennessy Construction and A.E. to study the possibility of replacing crop roof with a new PTFE roof. Over the last four months we have been working really closely with the design team, Major League Baseball, the Tampa Bay Rays, a good number of city staff involved in this process to really confirm that this roof can go back as it was intended. A lot of work and efforts have gone into this and I will go through kind of just some of the facts of where we are and a little bit of insight as to how we're going to put this roof back together here. So this is there's two resolutions. Here the first resolution is a funding resolution for the replacement of the roof. And it's a cost funding that's indicated here below. An interfund loan is supplemental appropriation in amount of 2.5 million transfers from the unappropriated balance in the commercial insurance fund. And it disasters short fund for a total supplemental appropriation of $20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, the Hennessy Hunt team came to us and asked us to consider approval of a joint venture. Originally, we had a contract with Hennessy Construction. We all felt that that was the better way to go. Hennessy clearly recommended it to us. And AECOM Hunt is one of the utmost experienced stadium construction firms in the country. Their relationships with the subcontractors, in this case, ETS is gonna be putting back the roof is very strong. So we all felt that there were some real benefits to doing so. So included in this resolution is the approval of an assignment and a first amendment to the design build agreement, which pretty much establishes the joint venture is who we're going to be doing business with and incorporating the GMP into this agreement. So here we are with the cost breakdown of the GMP, the cost of the work itself is about 19.3 million, and that includes the subcontract with the ETS to fabricate, deliver, and install this roof system. And then there general conditions of the contract and contingencies of the contractor. And then below that are all of the sub-costs with the professional liability, the buildless risk, construction bonds, and the city contingency for the total of $22.5 million. So one of the main issues that we were working through over the last couple of months really has been a very intense collaborative effort with Major League Baseball and the Tampa Bay Rays to make sure that putting back this material was going to be acceptable to the team, acceptable Major League Baseball. And to do that we had to study two things. One is the acoustical properties of this material and also the lighting properties in order for there to be a decision that yes, this is a playable system and it's not going to affect the playability within the stadium. Happy to say that we've achieved both of those concerns and we've satisfied those concerns with Major League Baseball and the raise. There were a series of very in-depth analysis that was done by W.H.W., who is a very large firm that does nothing but these kind of stadium projects. In addition to that, there's been actual field testing of the material. We had two options for the material color, a beige and a white. And it was selected, the white was selected, which was slightly less expensive than the beige. Also saved us about a week time in the production. So it was in our decision that decision was made by Major League Baseball and the Rays and it was also field tested to make sure that there weren't any issues. There are contingencies in this. Once we put the roof back up, there's an ability to go back and just test, real life test, the acoustics, and make sure that there aren't any issues. However, there are ways to resolve those through the sound system. The sound system will be adjusted to accommodate for those high frequency issues that could come up because of reverberation off of the material. And also on the lighting there's ways of adjusting the sports lighting systems to accommodate for any issues that might come up once the roof is in and we're actually field testing. So I really wanted to kind of just walk you through what it's going to take and how we're going to put this roof back up together because obviously we've not been around and haven't done anything quite like this. The folks that have done it are very experienced and they provided us these images that kind of share with you how this is going to be done. First of all, the work is going to take about 10 months to do. We have a schedule here that I'll walk through. But in June, we're going to start having some of the prep work done and some of the establishing, some of the netting and other things that have to happen in order to get the material installed. But here's an image of how the bundling of the material is going to be brought in and set on the ring beam. And through a very detailed process of installation, the first thing that's going to happen is netting is going to be provided and installed so that the team or the teams that are going to be working on this can actually walk over the roof and and set the the permanent roof off of these nets and you can see how the net is kind of set every other bay and they're going to install rigging and other equipment in order to have that work performed then Okay, okay, so then that's as the first panel comes in to start unfurling it and through a series of winches, start pulling it up towards the cupola. Once it's in, it'll be unfurled and you'll start setting it. And then after that's done, then they'll clamp it and put in all the tension cables. And then the final tension cable and the PT strands are going to complete it. And this happens in kind of a circular manner. Clockwise, they'll start on two ends. There'll be two teams that are being installing it at the same time, working around the stadium and ultimately complete it. So here's a schedule of what we intend to have done. So we are upon approval of this item, the goal is to authorize the material, release the material so it could start fabrication. It's fabricated in Germany and it'll be assembled in China. So the first three or four months is going to be the final engineering and the final fabrication, putting the pieces together, getting it ready to ship to China. It's going to be done in four separate bundles. Basically, the first one is going to go to China probably in June. And then it'll start the assembly. And the first bundle will actually arrive here in St. Pete in August. And in earlier June, they're going to start putting in the netting. Start starting the netting, getting all the cabling ready and being prepared to start the installation. And each bundle that gets fabricated, gets sent to China, gets brought back in four different deliveries. They're all going to be air-frated. And the intent is to have all of this work completed by the end of November, early December. There's built-ins time for potential weather delays with a final waterproofing of the complete root system by the end of December. So while this roof is being replaced, there's minimal work that could be done within the bowl itself. There's some work that we're planning to do as far as replacing some of the damaged panels that could happen probably before the roof goes up maybe in the early months of the summer. But once that work is being done there's really no work that's going to be done within the bowl. There's opportunities outside of the bowl itself that we're going to start to start putting back some packages of construction work that's going to be done and the areas that were damaged. However, the intent is to once the roof is complete in December is to put back the field, start putting back all of those elements, all of the audio visual elements that are on the catwalk and complete the work and have the facility able to be opened by spring. So this is a very complex project. We feel like we're in a good place, not only with the construction manager and his team with all of the costs that we've identified and put into the project itself, into the GMP. We've got several contingencies in here in the event that there's things that occur that we had in plans. We've got several contingencies in here in the event that, you know, there's things that occur that we had in plan. So we've got owner contingency, we've got contract contingency, and we're happy to answer any questions that you have. Okay, thank you. We have no cards on the item. Mr. Chair, we don't have any cards. Okay, we do have one in Zoom speaker speaker. Okay let's go there first. Let me just one moment. Okay uh Ron Diner I'm going to bring you into the meeting uh when I do please unmute yourself state, state your name and address for the record, and you'll have three minutes to address City Council. Ron Diner, can you hear me? Yes, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Please go ahead. Okay, I'm Ron Diner. I live in St. Petersburg. I strongly recommend that the city not approve the resolution to spend 22.5 million on a new roof for the Tropicana field until the city makes another attempt to negotiate the end of the use agreement. It's a bad deal for the city. It's too expensive. We don't know the total cost. We need the money for more important things like the $5 billion for infrastructure. It's too risky. What if a hurricane hits while the roof is being installed? What if a stronger than expected storm comes across in the next year or two? And don't say it can't happen. People once thought hurricanes didn't hit you and who's to say they couldn't be 150 or 160 miles an hour. A new stadium, a new baseball stadium will not and should not happen here so that should be off the topic. First of all it's too expensive. It was going to cost the city in the county $2.4 billion. Baseball does not drive economic growth or tourism and And we don't, and since we don't want to do business with the current owner, and he says he won't sell. And a new owner would not want to be for baseball to be here. It doesn't make sense. They want to be where there is a better chance for improved finances and for increased amount of attendance. So therefore not having the raise would allow for redevelopment of the property soon. Without baseball, we can start the development of the 86 H.G.G.G.G.G.G.G.G.G.G.G.G.G. It's a bad deal for the raise and they should want to move on. It's too risky. What if the stadium isn't ready for 2026? You say 10 months, maybe it'll take 12 months. You're talking about dealing with China, considering what we're doing with tariffs, et cetera. Who knows what could happen? And what if the race, the roof fails in just a few years? There's too much uncertainty. Where will they play in 2026 if it's not ready? And where will they play in the future years of it fails? By settling now, the race can focus on their next home. Therefore, the city should not approve the 22 and a half million. We don't know the total cost. What if they reach 60 million or 70 million? Even with $25 million insurance, that still leaves the city $35 million. And don't count on FEMA with the current administration of Washington focused on cutting costs. Instead, the city should do the bare minimum to maintain the facility while renegotiating. The city needs to be transparent. Tell us what's going on. Save $35 million in more and use the $25 million insurance funds to negotiate a settlement with the race. Each of you has my post that I put on KnowHomeRun.com with more details. Thank you. By Sure Howits. Thank you, Chair. Well, I'm going to start off obviously the based on the last open the form comments. Just to make it clear for everyone that's watching or listening, we are operating on a current use agreement and the risks have been allocated based on that agreement. The parties have agreed to that agreement, and my understanding is, and Rob, if you can just clear the record, the raise want to go forward with the terms of that agreement and have the city fix the stadium. So that way we're all on the same page. Good morning, Council. Thank you, Councilmember. The basic answer to that is yes. I will address the issue of we have had multiple discussions with the rays about coming to some type of different resolution. From the administration's perspective, all those discussions were focused on a new stadium. If we're going to make some type of financial agreement, we're going to make a payment to the Tampa Bay Rays. We wanted that to go to a new stadium. Obviously we see now that you know they're not going forward with the new stadiums of those types of terms weren't suitable for them. Our position is for us to pay them a financial payment to walk away and forego insurance reimbursement and FEMA reimbursement just doesn't make financial sense for the city. Okay. So those conversations have been had by administration. At this point, we are legally bound by an agreement. And the agreement requires us to fix a stadium. And I just want to make sure in terms of that agreement, we have MLB and the raise are on board with these plans as they are. I know you said that in your presentation, but I want to make it clear. They're fun with the way we're going forward on this. That's absolutely true. And we have it in writing that they've approved the material itself. Okay. And it's important to make that clear because we've had meetings before where there wasn't clarity so I want to make sure that we have clarity once we're approving this in terms of the roof itself and we get questions obviously as to the hurricane and winds and and what the load is. Can you kind of go over that real quickly and what's required under our current laws in terms of the roofing? So we're under the 2018, I think 2018 Florida Building Code. And those wind forces and reactions are greater than what it was when the stadium was built. So we are designing this roof system to withstand the current wind codes, which in effect to be meant that the material itself had to be a little bit thicker than what it was originally. So we are meeting the codes and I believe it's 165 mile an hour winds, a category 3, risk category 3 facility.'s it's a significantly higher wind reaction than what it was back in when it was originally installed. It's higher than when it was originally installed as what the standard is for any of the other buildings that are built right now based on Florida code correct. Okay. In terms of the roof issue and while it's in construction, just to make it clear, the contractor is going to be responsible for anything during construction and then it's the city's responsibility, correct? The contractor has full responsibility while the roof is being put on for that work itself. Once the roof is done, there are warranties for the roof. It becomes, yes, it becomes a city's property. Right. So they're responsible for the work they're doing, obviously. Exactly. The roof itself. Okay. We kind of covered a little bit the design and construction schedule. Obviously, it's very tight, but you indicated that there is built-in time for variances due to weather and other things, correct? That's correct. Okay. And right now as it's planned, it should be ready for next year, right? That's correct. Now, we all know what's happening in environment. We had one-on-ones. Thank you for the one-on-ones with each of us. We understand that we had the tariff issue and we kind of discussed that in our one-on-ones. Can you kind of go over that real quickly in terms of any of those issues? That's something that you all have been aware of and dealing with. Yeah, we've known about it. Obviously things are changing in a pretty dynamic situation right now. But we do have a contingency in the GMP of $100,000 associated with what might be tariffs. Now the tariffs would need to be, the work would be, need to be broken down quite a bit. The actual cost of the material and the material where it's being fabricated in one place and sent somewhere else we'll have to break it down but none of that has been brought to our attention yet in any kind of detail so we're gonna have to work through it. Okay and then this is the first step in the process obviously we need to have the roof repaired to go forward with the other repairs correct. That's correct. And then once this is a guaranteed maximum price, so we know what the price is, for the other items, then we will deal with those and get those GMPs, correct? There will be a series of bid packages that the contractor is currently working on. Some of those are going to come to Council fairly soon. Others are going to take a little while, but we anticipate having all of that formulated and understood probably sometime this summer, maybe by June. But we're going to start bringing packages of work outside of the roof that need to happen, that could happen while the roof is in the stage of construction. But most of that work is going to have to happen after roof is complete. Okay, and we have an estimate in terms of what we expect, but the cost is, is there anything at this point in time that has changed that amount from what you know? Where are we in terms of those numbers? So while we don't have those exact numbers, we still believe that we're in the range, that original range, it was like 50 something million overall. We believe it's going to stay there. We understand that the audiovisual and the electronics are probably going to be the highest cost element of that. And again, we're working to scope that work, we're working to identify it, specifically start to price it. And we'll probably have better information on that subject when we come back to City Council with the first package, possibly being the panels, the metal panels on the facade of the building that we're gonna try to bring to Council fairly early. We should know more about the balance of that work at that time. Okay, well thank you so much for all your work on this. I know it's a heavy lift between UNBATH in terms of getting this to City Council. And then I just have one more thing for Rob. I got a call last night from Commissioner Nauikki asking whether or not administration was exploring maybe even asking the county to kind of ship in some TDC money in the future to help out with this given the fact that you know this site is obviously gonna it helps the county for disasters and other reasons and it lessens a burden on taxpayers if you are able to use it so I just figured I put it it out there and find out from you Rob, if administration is exploring that or would be willing to export. Frankly, if the federal government or the county or anybody wants to provide money for an endeavor, I'm willing to receive it. So. Amen to that. And I appreciate the commissioner reaching out to you. We've had some internal discussions about potentially looking at the Intound TIF to fund some of the repairs. That would include some county funding. So we have thought about it that way. Our thinking right now is we kind of want to hold on the Intound TIF. We want to have some further discussions with City Council. We want to look at some other priorities that are in the downtown and put the potential of this site. So we've held off on that for right now. I will reach out to Administrator Burton after this meeting, provided this information, and see where he's at on this. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Gabbard. Thank you, Chair, and thank you, Councilmember or Vice Chair Hannah Witts, for kind of level setting us today in your comments at the beginning. Because we read all of the rhetoric, we hear from the public that we should not be moving forward, we should not be repairing the chop, because the deal fell apart, right? And to me, two very different things. I mean, they just, yes, they are with the same entities. Yes, it is the same site, but this is our contractual obligation that frankly we all inherited. And so, I don't like it any more than anybody else that we're looking at spending 23 million dollars today on just the roof Recognizing that there is going to be other costs that are going to come to us. I'd much rather be spending that money on Hurricane Recovery and helping residents in our most affected neighborhoods I think that's no surprise to anyone But this is our obligation. It's our contractual obligation to make home games acceptable to MLB and the rays playable in Tropical Canifield. Period. That's the reality we're faced with. And for me, I've always leaned on the side of prudency when it comes to keeping us out of lawsuits. I think that's, I've done that time and time again, and when I look at this agreement for us to not move forward in this way, I think puts us right in those crosshairs. And already what is a very tumultuous, we'll use the word relationship. Relationship or lack thereof. So, I don't come to this vote lightly today whatsoever, but I also come to it with a very realistic perspective of these are the cards that were dealt based on the agreement that Hurricane Milton did to our community. So my biggest concern for all of this is the gothness. Like where are the pitfalls? Where are the things that we're not seeing? The MLB and the raise approval. I have shared with all of you and one-on-ones has been a continuous concern for me. There's for lack of saying it any better. There is a lack of trust there, I think, at this point in our relationship that I worry we're going to get down a path and it won't be good enough. And I know we're having these conversations. I appreciate that the MLB is at the table now, because when we started this process, the race were going to be kind of an intermediary between the two. And so having MLB at the table is very, very helpful, but I still have concerns. And I have to listen to my gut when it comes to that. So the three things that I am most concerned about today, the tariff allowance you touched on it briefly, just yesterday. These numbers went up. I think 25% for all EU countries, 34% for China. Is $100,000 enough to cover? I mean, I know you said that you haven't really seen, like we don't really know how that's all going to shake out, but we're dealing with materials coming from two different countries. So, I mean, is $100,000 enough and does does it live in the owners' contingency? Is that where it is? No, it's in the cost of the work. It's part of that $19 million. It's in the allowance. In the first clause. Yeah, it's in an allowance that's part of the contractor's scope. It's not a city contingency. Got it. But totally agree with your point. It's something we're just finding out about as well. So we've got a lot of work to do to understand it and to start to ask the right questions. OK. As of yesterday's announcements, did we have any follow-up conversation with the contractor about that potential increase in cost? Because on $19 million, that's a lot of money. What we have asked them to do is to provide us a breakdown of the subcontractors' cost, which is a lump sum in the GMP, so that we can understand the components of this. Some of this is freight, some of this is labor to install. It's not all materials. We need to understand the material value. We need to understand, you know, if there were tariffs, what could it be applied to? So we're just beginning to figure this out. Okay. I would appreciate a follow-up on that as you learn more about what exactly that's going to mean because I am concerned that $100,000 just didn't going to cut it on that. So I'll leave that there. And then my other two kind of come from our one-on-one, which thank you very, very helpful conversation. First of all, let's talk about the reflection glare, the choice of color. I had in my notes that I thought, and it's been a couple of weeks now, that it was going to be the beige, and that the reason for the beige was because of the glare. And that the liner that used to be there protected a little bit from that. Still, if you've ever been to a baseball game, you know it's hard to see once the ball like goes up to that white material. But the glare is also another problem. So why this shift? Because when we met, it was going to be tan or beige. So they were both acceptable. There needed to be a level of additional testing, both from Major League Baseball had their own sub-consultants helping them. The rays had their own consultants helping them and we brought W.H.W. who's kind of the expert in this. So there's been a lot of discussion on it. There's been a lot of back and forth. The both of them were acceptable. There may have been a slight, you know, initial recommendation from W.H.W. that the beige as the properties related to the glare were, in their opinion maybe fit more favorable, but Major League Baseball actually went out to a stadium with the same roof, a white PTFE roof over it in Arizona, tested the flight of the ball with, you know, a ball player could actually catch the ball and look at it, and they're completely comfortable with it. The The rays are completely comfortable with it Yeah, I mean there were two options and they were both good and they've settled on the white and there could be other reasons why aesthetically they would prefer the white if they're both acceptable and to us it doesn't matter I mean we were happy to go with either one and the fact that they went with the white is Perfectly acceptable to us. Beth you want? There's no difference in cost. There was a slightly less cost for the white. Yes. We saved some dollars on the white. OK. Good morning, Beth here in Dean, City Development Administration, Managing Director. The only thing that in the discussions, we also did talk about the lighting. So with the white roof, we will be working with WJHW and Major League Baseball to ensure that the sports lighting that is aimed properly, which will also help with tracking the ball on all of those things. So that is something that we will work on moving forward to make sure that the white works as intended. Okay, and I think some of that kind of goes to my next question with the acoustics as well. I know we're not there yet to be, you know, talking about purchasing equipment and things like that. But obviously the equipment we're going to purchase is going to be upgraded from what was there before. So we don't have any concerns at this point in time about the lack of a liner and the acoustics with that because of all the new materials and all the new technology, right? Correct. WGHW did look at that very carefully. We've had those conversations with Major League Baseball. What they've told us is without the liner, it will most likely sound different, but not worse. The term they use is a little brighter, and that absolutely with the new technology and installing a system without the liner, they can make up for that lack of a liner with the technology and have an intelligible, perfectly acceptable sound system. And then my last question is, once again, recognizing this is not the end of this journey. Are we still set for May timeframe to come back to council with kind of the next steps? That is our hope. As Raoul mentioned, we believe the next package will be the vertical metal panels, both interior and exterior. That's what we're anticipating. So we're working to get that in May. We're working, ACOM Hunt is working on getting the pricing for that now. So May or the first meeting in June at the latest, but May is what we're targeting. And then additional packages, and I have those notes. Additional packages, again,'s changing just a little bit so the metal panels would be one package and then the next package would be most likely the architectural package so that's drywall, flooring, things of that nature and then additionally I think we're going to roll some of the baseball items into that package so the new playing turf, the netting, those types of things. The third package is shifted a little bit, will most likely be our sports lighting package, just to make sure that, and that is working. It's NEMA 3 rated, so much of that is working. It was outdoor rated, but it needs to, the electrical needs to be worked on. We need to make sure the fixtures are all working, that they all are aimed properly, all of those things and such, so that'll be the third package. And then the last package, most likely in August, would be the audio visual low voltage, so in addition to the main stadium audio system, that would also be sort of some of the low voltage fiber broadcast, those types of things. So that's the path we're on right now, yes. And then sorry, Chair, my last clarification on that schedule you just gave. I don't think I heard in there. Maybe you said it that the sweets, I know they're sweet work. There's some of the concession work. Yes. That's like that. Where exactly? That would all be part of the architectural., that would be the ceiling tiles, flooring, some limited mill work and cabinetry. So that would be in that second package, which would most likely be in the July timeframe is where and some of that is we are aware of and are taking the summer break into account as far as the the meeting schedule. So want to. I heard the word limited in there. Yes. Which I appreciate hearing. I think that that's a prudent path forward. Have there been any more discussions since our last one on one about the offices? Because this is a piece that I'm going to be incredibly critical of if there comes a time that the raise insists that those offices for their staff are restored because I'm just not there. And I want to be very clear about that. I recognize that they've been displaced, but they are in a new location. They have been in that location since a week almost after the storm when I toured the trop to see it, you know, after the roof went off. And I think they can probably hopefully stay there in that location. And quite frankly, if the new development would have come forward, their offices would not have been in the stadium. So it wasn't a need for them in a new development. It's unfortunate, but I'm just not willing to spend the money on that. So I want to be very clear about that. I want to see no package come before us that has a complete remodel of those offices. Yes, there have been no further discussions regarding the offices. The last discussion, which was several weeks ago, both with the raise and major league baseball is that the offices are not part of the packet or any of the packages that we're working on currently we are focused very very intently on readying it for baseball games so for the fans for the players. I'm going to go to the obligation. Yes. Exactly. Thank you chair. Thank you. Council member fixaners. Thank you so much. And I think my colleagues for the thoughtful conversation, and I did all what Council member Gabbard stated, initially my first feedback was the word playable, and what that involves. So first of all, thank you for entertaining, thank you for entertaining me with my one-on-ones and my questions and getting me to this point and understanding where we are. Thank you, legal for explaining to me where we are contractually in regards to getting this done. Thank you, Vice Chair Hannah Whits, for clarifying those that are watching because as we have our Certain narrations during open forum You know it makes me smile and me smiling is a good thing So with that I want to say you know from day one it hasn't Been about the race for me It is always the gasman project is always for me been about the community benefits. And we haven't heard anyone talk about the community benefits that came with the gas plant project. The housing, which I wish there were more, but the museum, which I think deserves to be in a prime location with other museums in the city of St. Peter'sburg, the pavilion, the retail, the businesses that were going to benefit around the tribe, let us not forget that there was a part of the package as well. It's not about baseball for everybody. Truly wasn't about just about baseball for me. So on the benefits part of it is my advocacy on first of all we have to meet our obligations. Regardless of what it's said, how it's said, what language it's said in, we still have to meet our obligations. But I'm hoping with or without that the city still finds it a priority To meet the community benefits that we dangled this carrot and in front of those partners To get this deal through If we had and I've said it if we have money for baseball we have money for our constituents We We have money for those community benefits that we know we most desperately need. So when I hear the word us getting it back playable because I've always said it, baseball was not the only thing that benefited from that location. We had other events, we had other activities going on that we actually benefit from and made money from. So I just you know although baseball is important to a lot of people. Baseball isn't the only consideration moving forward with this. So I'm glad that we're meeting our obligations. I'm not thrilled with the dollar amount that we're having to spend with us to give it. I also agree I thought at $100,000 with our current environment right now, I didn't know how if that was going to be enough. I know we're looking at a tight timeline and you know no disrespect but I haven't seen that do anything on on time yet based on what we've been offered we've always had you know had to involve contingency somewhere so I thank you for the careful consideration with that but again I want us to you know move away a little bit and not forget the community benefits that got us where we were in the first place. So with that being said, and I don't know legal correct me, I'm gonna move approval on F3A and B, if we can- Got it one at a time. Now do them separate with A being. Okay, well I'll go ahead and do A first then, with that being said. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. Council member Gibbons. Thank you so much. And thank you, Rowell and Beth, for making time for me to get me up to speed as a new council member. Obviously this is something that I wanna do, but it's something that we, as my colleagues have said, we are contractually obligated to do. So thank you for clarifying that for us, legal. It helps to make the decision a lot easier today. But I do want to be clear, I know you said, Rahul, that there'll be pieces of this puzzle slowly coming together. That second package expected in July. I just want to be clear that I don't want to get these pieces of the puzzle sporadically. The sooner we can get this information, the better, the more information we can get, the better. This is a tough decision and I'm not okay with saying that we'll kind of play it by ear and move along as we go along. I'd like to know the cost for technology, lighting, acoustics, all that stuff in advance as soon as we know. That helps us sort of make our decisions as we go along because obviously we have other priorities as a city besides just the race. So I wanna be as fiscally conservative as we can be when it comes to making those decisions and to council member Figs Sanders point, it isn't about baseball, it's about doing the right thing. And I think for all of us we wanna do the right thing.. We want to you know protect our city's assets, protect our city's taxpayers and their best interests. Nobody wants to end up in court pursuing the case that's litigated and can end up costing more than $56 million. So I think this is the best choice for us to do our due diligence and make sure that we're fulfilling our contractual obligations. I did have a question for legal. What happens should the raise decide that they don't want to come back to Tropicana Field in 2026? I mean, it might, that's clearly would be a breach of their contract. We would have a variety of remedies to proceed that. Gotcha. And what, one of those options be settlement? I mean, settlements always a possibility. The agreement clearly requires them to be playing here, pursuant to the agreement. We would seek injunctive relief. We have other remedies that we can pursue. Settlements always an option. Good information. I appreciate that. And my question for administration is, could this stadium be repurposed for reasons besides just baseball? Morning, James Corbett, City Development Administrator. Obviously right now we're laser focused on getting the stadium repaired and meeting our obligations. But we have been meeting with, we've had conversations with visits, St.P. Clearwater, as well as our sports and event consultant. And that's something that we're going to pursue as we get closer to the end of the race term. We will take another look at that. But obviously the stadium could be used for other events. Thank you Mr. Corbett and I pointed I pointed that out because as my colleagues have mentioned early and all of us solve the news this past year, that stadium could have been used for the purposes of a shelter. Obviously, the roof came off, but moving forward now that we have a roof that's able to secure winds up to 165 miles per hour. Moving forward, beyond 2026, should the raise decide not not to stay I'm happy to know that we're spending this money for good reasons because there are other purposes besides just baseball So thank you chair. Thank you councilmember Floyd. Thank you I agree with much of what my colleague sentiment has been I do Have one hang up that I'll mention but I recognize that like we are legally obligated to provide the stadium. The only thing that I think has been omitted so far is that we can meet a legal obligation through negotiation with the team. I know that that's been recognized by City Administrator Gertis, but I think that the one hang up I have is a comment that you made earlier that was, it just doesn't make financial sense for the city is how I wrote it. And I do tend to believe you and agree with you, but I have not been able to verify that myself. financial sense for the city is how I wrote it and I do tend to believe you and agree with you But I have not been able to verify that myself is what the issue has been and What we're doing today is voting to approve something with a a finite price attached to it today But still with a range of variables ahead and I recognize that we might not get a straight answer from the raise, but I do think that some, I could be brought comfort by seeing some range, like with the variables attached to it as well, and I just have not seen that yet. And that's what where my hang-up is, is like, we had speakers come out and speculate what, that this might be the most financially prudent thing to do, but I haven't seen numbers at all, and that's what the problem is for me. Regardless of whatever preference I have to see what outcome this is, like seeing numbers written down that say, like, choice A is this, choice B is this, as best as we possibly can, would have brought me more comfort and gotten me to yes, and I want to get to yes unanimously. But I haven't seen that, and I don't know what it would take to get it. Here my colleague, so I'm not going to push it. But that's where I'm at right now. If we could get anything, that would be beneficial for me. Then another thing I'll say that might be a little out of left field is, I didn't mean to do that, is if we do go forward with this, like I suspect we will, and I'll be there with you all. This is the path we're going to go down, like after today, I'll be there to make sure we get it done as best as we can Going forward with all the repairs, but I would ask administration. I know this might be sticky I guess But you know the race did offer Some amount of extension there. I mean obviously us chipping in two hundred million dollars is just the table for me right away. And I suspect it is for a lot of my colleagues also. But you know, if that's viewed as a negotiation starting point, I'd be interested in it as all I'm saying. Like, I'll like, and I've seen amount of money, I'm never going to support. But to see like, if the venue is going to continue to exist and we can make baseball work in that venue, I mean I would be open to that discussion as all I'm saying, as long as it makes financial sense. But so I wanted to encourage you even though it might be difficult because the relationships are a little afraid I guess to pursue that if this is the path we go down. And like Council member Figsander said as well, especially if we can do that while also delivering on some of the promises that we had. And I think there is opportunity for that based on what I know about the use agreements. So I'll just end on saying that I understand completely. I just would love to have seen more detailed information about what a settlement would look like. I recognize that that might be difficult to get, but anything would have been helpful. And then I will be completely on board if this is the decision we make today. Thanks. Thank you. Councilmember Druskel. Thank you. And things to all who have commented on this. We have the bigger conversation, but and I look forward to talking about that more, but at this moment I want to bring things back to what the vote is in front of us right now and on resolution for F3A. So that's $2.5 million from the Parking Revenue Fund. So... $2.5 million from the Parking Revenue Fund. So, I want to ask about that because I know Evan's going to want his money back. At some point, my question is, is there something else that is being sacrificed in order to make a room for this? And I do apologize if this, if anything I've said has already been asked because I did have to step out for a few minutes and I'm okay. So could you tell us, are we having to say no to something else in order to bring this money in? Well, good morning, Council Tom Green, Assistant City Administrator, and to answer your questions directly, it is not impacting any project that was planned. And just very quickly, you know, when we first started addressing the damage to our various city facilities, we reported to Council on maybe at BFNT a series of different internal funds that we would look to to help offset the cost of some of these investments and certainly the parking revenue fund was part of that. So it's always been kind of in in the mix so to speak and the plan obviously is as we get reimbursements either for insurance and or from FEMA, you know, those resources would replenish the expenses for internal funds and also repay any loan that we have outstanding. Yes, thank you. And I know that even if we don't have that money previously targeted for another project, we do have lots of parking projects out there that we'd like to do in the future and traditionally we do like to use the money from parking poor parking. So once that's restored, everyone's going to know that Evans got some money, but we will, that I do look forward to seeing how we can utilize that when it comes back. I just want to make sure that we weren't sacrificing something in order to have that. I want to ask, I'll switch to role. Thanks. It looks like the crane is going going to be coming in in June or July. Possibly June. Okay. And that's only to set the netting and the other equipment that has to be part of the early work in anticipation of the balance of the deliveries. Yes, it's for hoisting all the stuff up there so that the work can then begin and that includes the net. And I'm looking at this timeline here. So have you gotten any information from from Hennessy on the type of crane they're going to be using? Because that dome is pretty tall. I don't have the details of that, but there's at least two. There's going to be one that's going to be at multiple locations on the perimeter, but there's certain areas of the perimeter that they can't get to. So there's actually going to be a different crane inside the stadium. Okay. James. Well, one thing that I will add is we do know it will not be a tower crane. I think you're concerned is with the crane in storms. It will not be a tower crane, which is the type that have a long lane time to remove. So the crane that will be utilized will not be a tower crane. Okay. So it likely will be something that will be easily mobilized. Right. Brought up, moved off site if necessary. That's the kind we like. Right. It'll be moved. And okay, perfect. Thank you so much. Do we have, so we have two resolutions on for this topic. Do they need to be voted on separately? They do. We have a motion for A on the floor. Okay. Do we have a second on it yet? Oh, okay. All right. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Vice Chair Hanuman. Thank you, Chair. Based on just a couple of additional comments that were made by other council members. First of all, I just want to say, when we discuss issues like settlement, you have to have two willing parties involved. I mean, that's just at a minimum. And we know right now where the rays stand on this. They've made that crystal clear. So the idea that we're going to have a discussion as to a settlement based on what's before us, I just don't see that happening right now because you have to have willing partners. And our role, by the way, that's administration's role to negotiate with the rays. We have whatever is before us and what they bring us, whether I agree with it or not, there are times, you know, we have to go one way or the other and I get that. Oh, the other thing I want to talk a little bit about in terms of legal remedies and Jackie, I don't like talking legal strategy on the dias. I'm very careful about where we could be in the future because we don't, we, none of us know where this could land. And anything that we say is something that could be of consequence. So I'm always very careful, especially in a situation where we have the situation at hand, because you don't know if it ends up in litigation. I have no idea. So, but I do want to talk in general about what could be the possible legal remedies that the rays have against us in the contract. And I know Jack, I'm putting you on this spot. We did not have a discussion about this. And I don't expect the attorneys to come and say, okay, this is everything in the contract. So, but what are some of the things that can happen? Because I know not everyone has a clear understanding as to what the contract says and what can they do if we don't perform under the contract. Okay, I'll say in general. In general. And I would say it's the same thing that council member Gibbons brought up. Anything is on the table. It could be injunctive relief to compel us to do something. It could be damages because an allegation that a contract was breached, either one or both. So when you talk about injunctive relief, what does that mean for the lay person? So they can understand what that. I'd say nutshell it makes you do something that your a court impels a party to do something that they're contractually obligated. So the court we could say we're not going to do this and the court could come and say nope the contract says you're supposed to do that so you guess what you're going to do it and now you have a digital cost. Correct just like the court could say if the raise didn't want to play here, the contract calls for them too and so they will. Right. So I just wanted to make that clear that there are those type of remedies that they can exercise against. It's just like we can exercise against them if they don't comply with the contract and then the judge actually decides it says, no, you guess what? You have to do what the contract says. Correct. Okay, that's all. Thank you. Thank you. Council member Howard. Thank you, Chair. I'll try to be brief, but something Council member Driscoll, a very much level set us on, was we are on the parking revenue. And so you kind of sparked my thought process. And so Evan, I'm going to put you on the spot. Where did Evan? Oh, where did Evan? and I'm not here, he was here earlier, that's why I thought he was still here. So, okay, well who can answer my questions about the agreement that we signed in 2023 on parking share with the race? That's an Evan question, right? Yep. Yep. And here's what I'm going. So I just want to remind everybody that we have an agreement from 2023 where we are doing parking share with the rays. We're using those lots, some of those lots in non-game days. There's a whole lot more non-game days now, right? So have we kind of looked at what the increase might potentially be based upon the revenue that we have been collecting? Because there's a share on that. I'd have to give with Evan and follow up with you. We're still using the lots now. That agreement is still in effect. It's available daily and we'll continue to be available daily, but I'd have to follow up to give you details on what we expect the increase could potentially be with the more availability. Okay, Yeah, because I'm just thinking I mean we're taking the money, but if we have more money potentially coming in, I'm wondering how much of an offset there might be there. And do we anticipate that the number of lots or spots might diminish with the construction that will be taking place? I don't anticipate that particular area. The area that we have the parking share will remain available. Okay, so we're not looking at a diminishment on the number of spots that we have currently. If anything, we have more availability because there are no games being played. So maybe that can improve the revenue and maybe offset a little bit. And then my final question is, do we remember when the agreement is up for renewal and or renegotiation? I do not. I don't know that, but I can certainly get you. Okay, yeah, I was just kind of thinking into the future. So, all right, very good. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. I'll remember just go. Thank you. point out that if the MSC was across the street, Evan could be here in probably 90 seconds. Thank you, Chair. I can't wait to have that conversation. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Just quickly, thanks for the, I think we've had multiple two on ones at this point. Raul and Beth, just appreciative of all the work. I know it's been said by multiple council members. It's a big lift and just a very appreciative of the continued communication and all the work you're doing, I know behind the scenes. And so just wanted to make sure I communicated that. Okay, we've got a motion in a second on F3A. Seeing as no further discussions. Clerk, could you please open the machine for voting? Council members, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present council members have voted, Clerk, please tally and announce the vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to approve a agenda item F3A passes seven to one with council members, Driscoll, fixanders, gathered,as, Givins, Hanowitz, and Harding voting yes and council member Floyd voting no. Okay, thank you. Move approval on F3B. Okay, we've got a motion of second on F3B. Seeing is no further discussion. Clerk, could you please open the machine for voting? Council members, please enter your votes. Seeing as all present council members have voted, clerk, please tally and announce the vote. Mr. Chair, the motion to approve into item F3B. Passed to seven to one with council members strisical, fixanders, gathered, girdists, givings, handoats, and harding voting, yes. And council member Floyd voting no. Okay, thank you. All right, we will move into our second open forum. Do we have any speakers? Mr. Chair, we do not. Okay, we'll go ahead and close open forum. Councilmembers, any announcements? Okay, I have two. What's that? Yeah. That was already announced. Yeah. That's how I wanted to start the meeting today. Okay, it was Jackie's birthday yesterday. What? Our legal queen. And so we're gonna sing Happy Birthday to Jackie. Happy birthday to you. Happy Birthday to you. Happy Birthday dear Jackie. Happy Birthday to you. Thank you, Jackie, for everything that you do. Yes. And lastly, and council members, certainly willing to hear comments, tomorrow is Liz Abernathy's last day at the city. Yes. And I am not sure that I know somebody that figuratively and literally has her fingerprints all over the city as much as she does. And so I did not want the day to go without saying a big thank you. She's not in the building. So hopefully she's listening or somebody tells her that we're talking about her now. She'll probably be able to feel it knowing her. But I just wanted to say big thank you for all the work that she's done. Countless initiatives and undertakings across the city, both from just helping our city grow smart to coastal high hazard, to density. It's so far reaching her effect on this city. And I am so very thankful for her and for everything that she's done. I was hoping somebody did not press it. I was hoping, so I'm sorry. You keep going, yeah. And I did not, like I said, I did not want the day to go without absolutely recognizing her, all of her achievements and all of the the work that she's put in in a lifetime and frankly enough for multiple lifetimes. Council Member Driscoll. Thank you. Thank you for mentioning that. Liz was the chief zoning official when I first started on City Council and I had great admiration for her even then and then when she was promoted by then we got to know each other a little bit and I was absolutely thrilled that she took over that spot and it has always struck me that it is not that common to see a woman rise in that particular field. And I've just always had great admiration for her and just imagining her being, you know, knows to know, toe to toe with these big construction guys, letting them know, you know, that they to do it this way. And she has earned the respect of not only her colleagues here and many of us here at City Hall, but out in the community as well. Both with whether it's a neighborhood or a developer. People respect Liz even if you don't always agree. There are many times when I had to really check my patients because she believes as she has always shown that it's better to get things right than to get it done faster. And it takes what it takes to get to that right place. And so for all the times that I was frustrated or impatient at the end of it, when we did the final vote on something, I did understand why it took so long. So I am going to miss her greatly as someone that I really rely on to guide us in so many of these processes, especially with our city growing the way that it is. But I'm incredibly happy for her and just feeling sorry, I'm keeping it together here. Our city is truly a better place because Liz has served and I wish I do wish her all the best and I hope that she won't be a stranger at City Hall. Thank you. Thank you. Council member fixanters. Thank you. I just wanted to thank Liz and you know I am always a firm believer and taking opportunity to say thank you. And giving your flowers while you can still smell them. So Liz, these are my flowers for me to you. Thank you for all of your dedicated and committed work for the city of St. Petersburg and keeping us straight. But I am so happy for you that you are at this junction when you can actually decide what time you want to get up in the morning and where you want to be on any particular day. So congratulations on this new life freedom and I wish you much much happiness and rest in relaxation and you are truly going to be missed and we're greatly appreciated. Best wishes, thank you, Chair. Thank you, Council Member Floyd. Thank you, I wanna echo all of my colleagues' thankfulness for Elizabeth's service to the city. And I did just put myself on here to say congratulations. Really is the biggest thing. If you work for a living, I think retirement is, yeah, I see everybody shaking their head. Yeah, retirement is something you absolutely should be congratulated on. It takes a lot of work to get there. And so I just wanted to make sure that was expressed. Thanks. Thank you. Bye, sure, hands. Thank you, Chair. Like my colleagues, extremely thankful for Liz. I said my thanks at a committee meeting, worried that I would not get the opportunity at the right time to thank her for everything. But I will have to say, it was always amazing to me when we were talking about a complex issue with Liz and one of the packages, whatever package it was before us. Where she had, she had everything in her mind in terms of the timeline of how things had to work to make something happen. Not just with the approvals of City Council, but if you had the County Commission approvals and everything else that had to come into play and doing things the right way and I never doubted in a minute for a minute that she was guiding us in the right way because she was so organized with all the processes that she has to follow to make sure that certain things happen and she to my amazement I could never follow. have to time I have to ask her again. So what is what's happening because it's it was so hard to always follow it and I will say it to what council member Driscoll said in terms of the community. I just asked her day how to be eating and Liz came up again and the the person who I was speaking with mentioned her and and said, I can't believe she's retiring. She's such an asset to the community. And that has been the sentiment that I've heard from everyone. And I truly mean everyone that I have crossed past with whether it's in the neighborhood associations where it's the developers, whether it's people that work for the city, what a joy and privilege it has been to work for and with Liz. And so congratulations to Liz for such a storied career and making such an impact, not just on our city, but on the individuals that you have touched. Thank you. Thank you. Council member gathered. Thank you, Chair. I'll be brief. I shared my, I guess, love for Liz. I'll just say, I just talked to her directly and shared with her everything that I feel about her. But I would just say that had Liz not been here when Councilmember Driscoll and I started, I don't know that I would be the Councilmember that I am today. When you work in the affordable housing space, when you work in the resiliency space, when so much of what you do is inland use. And you come to this work with a vision, but you really don't know how it's going to be implemented. You really don't know the intricacies of the code and the things that you have to look out for. You just know what you want to do and what the residents are asking of you. And Liz really was that guiding light for me personally. I'm very, very happy that I had that experience with her because what I have learned in working with her has been invaluable. Working with Liz is like a day in and day out master class. And it is so inspiring as a woman to Council Member Driscoll's point, watching the way that she navigates things, her intelligence level, but her humility at the same time. It's just such a beautiful thing to experience. And I remember one time there was a very controversial development in my district. I was having a district town hall, and it was a very well-attended town hall, which had been unusual at that point because you know you might get 10, 15 people. I had like 60 people that night couldn't figure out why everybody was there to talk to me until I realized why everyone was there to talk to me. Luckily Liz was in the room, she got right up, she stood right next to me, to me. She did not leave me out there on my own. And she explained things so just eloquently and matter of fact. And I just remember standing there next to her thinking, like, how fortunate we are. That we have somebody that gets it and isn't afraid to communicate clearly to the residents why we do the things that we do and the way that we do them. And I will always admire her and appreciate her. If not for all the other million things that she has done, that one night in the impact that that made on my life and the way that I am here at council, I really learned a lot from her that evening and I just want to thank her for that publicly. Thank you. Thank you, Chair. Well, I know she's not here, but Council members, I'd like you to please join me in congratulating Liz Avernathy, who are here at St. Petersburg. Thank you. Thank you everybody. And if there's nothing else for the good of the order, City Council is adjourned. Thank you everyone. Thank you very much.