Hey, I'm not very very. Unless you're already pretty. Climbing. Yes. The reception. Well, the beautiful day may have been a lot of kids. Yes, yes. Yeah. He's not that. Well, all right. But I'm going to help you. It started what? Should I go? OK. Yes. We'll start at top on May 12th. We'll Have a series of prime coal mansions actually before then I want to go ahead on founders Milkrages are organizing a tour of founders tune and The inner inbox is in our inbox. It's an invite. Yeah, I suppose as well. They will. Is that different than the one that at least. Standing in on the center. I don't know yet. So we would end name. We've been telling her the actual thing. This is a preview tour of the two. Theater Monday 4th or 30 or council. I mean, time to do both. I want to join. Stay not loud, because I'm the quickest cancel this back. I can farm with Joe House for my age too. Okay, because there was news that maybe the fiat is not opening at the end of the month that at least said and I confirmed a microcarves a low-carotid tour especially since the entire street scapes torn up currently in front I found her too. But I asked for it. It was shamed because it was done and opened. And then I had to do with water issues as they were building out today. I wanted to ensure that the flow is just a bit bigger than that. And it's not that similar. It's not that much of a fault. It's all about getting all the time out. You can know it's reopened. So I was actually asked about that later on why we have insight into why we're hearing a recently completed in all the streets. I assume it's construction issue that they need to fix. Yeah, I can give everybody a quick briefing on that situation. So at Madera Falls Church, there was a historic flooding issue. And which major data that the water would actually jump the curve and go between the old carpet store and the right-wing building. And then we go through the parking lot and go into the solar extension base. The new building is in a way of that. There are drop-in, that's there, but it's for an extreme rain of that, but it's hard, it's an old land belief, so an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not an expert. I'm not a lot of back to four of them. But it will be done. The two things for everyone's awareness, it's going to be very disruptive to track it. In order to do that, it needs to be like a 24 hour day lane closure for various maintenance as that is doing. The road is being sort of shaved down a new base being built and paved. So it's going to be impacts to school. We've been in communication to schools. In fact, the community will forgot a message board out of dawn today. encouraging people to choose alternate routes. And we anticipate the construction will start next week. So they're going to pull them in hard work right now. Right. What's the perimeter? It's basically the corner, kind of with sort of tapering into the corner and tapering down. A policy question for the council is, you know, be taking up all those brick sidewalks for those two legs. We put on the table about the brick's back and having those two legs, the paint sanders. We haven't decided that yet, but that's something that I wanted to counsel with me where that we're discussing. There will be a credit then for that because that will decrease the cost of the project. And we could use that credit to at least partially also the cost of two new mass storms that are not part of the proffergue or voluntary in sessions. And then we'd have a fully updated intersection all brand new conduit help smart cities and things like that. That sounds like a win-win on the circus, then. Me. Well, and together, you don't have to give full reaction right now on people just do, that may be. Wanting to get a little bit, you don't have to give full reaction right now. I want to do this to be aware of that discussion. That kind of more of life out, sitting a couple of weeks, but there's any gestures, you know, like that. It's good to have that. So as a new concerns about that, right? So we're talking about no brick crosswalks. the bird's size locks that were there. What's the plan then? The average day. Yeah. Yeah. The other two legs. They're talking about no brick crosswalks. And we're talking about the brick size walks that were there. What's the plan then? The average day. That's the day. Yeah. So then the other two legs, those are pretty brand new brick paper crosswalks. They would stay until they degrade 10 years from now. And then we would probably go in and at that point then change that said that all four legs would be the thermoplastic with embedded reflected material standard. Going back to the fixing the grade on the outer issues, I think the team out there kind of doing the inspections that we captured that they didn't do it. I was not able to say too much, how do we be satisfying this now versus obviously doing it during the friction? So it was identified back during site plan, but I think it's been a... Obviously... to find us now versus obviously doing it during the construction. So it was identified back during the site plan, but I think it's been obviously quite expensive, so there's been some fact and forth on that, but actually end of the day, they are doing that. So we had a whole bunch of people out there yesterday, so that's for sure. Now, this is maybe like a month ago, I saw Gary and team doing some term later, so you're like inspecting and that's right. As built. Sure, yeah. As built review, I guess. I think that's a great example of when we talk about stormwater development, a great example of, you know, we have the checks and bounds, right? That some of we caught this and you're holding to develop our accountable things. It's great. For example, in the city, making sure that work, watching that first- stormwater again. And this project has a lot of stormwater infrastructure inside the building to hold back stormwater. But this is something that will all sort of be uh, I think, with the traffic backups of the next month. That's going to take a month. That's going to start next week. It's going to take a month. That's right. I'm going to give it a sense. I'm going to put on the city, the parent list, or think about that. It's probably more public discussion. People thought we were done. Yeah. Yeah. At those west followed and founders to the streets. Yeah. Okay. So it's probably what it's out. Sure. And that's the reason why it's sort of stayed in that unfinished state, you know, you're having this working this out. Maybe discussing your managers of work this week's more public awareness that this is happening. It's going to need to be a campaign. So communications is getting cleared up for it. And West Falls, that's all torn out of the barn. I don't know if they're facing an issue there too. Well, that corner, the slope was concerned that that was an approved plan, but the as a fact constructed city's position that it was steeper than what was shown on plan. And so we have a part of the that out, put that back in. We have also changed the standards so that in that steeper part, it's going to be a concrete walking path as opposed to the brick to facilitate ice removal, snow removal, and went wet. It would be less slippery. It would be kind of a brewing finish so it would have a better traction. So that was a change of standard that we have asked for, and I'd say call back into that. So information of us now, sorry, that was made well be of a feeder and I keep calling that under certain elements, air or pulse search, I guess tour before the really nice meeting. I'll see you beater and keep on my back. I'm a dare of all search. I guess tour. Before the constipation. This is five to three. So the meeting places. Joe offlar is still at the dare of all search. He said you have data. That's the thing. She's I don't know what you are in the dare of all search. Given that the corners all torn out. But I just have a spread down down the mountain. Okay, gosh. Is it the, is the founders row one of them? Yes, they're all founders. Founders row. Founders row. And the dear full search. Oh, okay. There's two. The founders row and one is, I'll come we're meeting. One is my understanding. 110 founders out in this lab. Anyway, I'll be very happy. You don't need to talk about that. I can make 12. So four makes 12. We have the budget. See, I think the property tax bonus is stormwater sewer, and maybe a quick review of that. So with the Council's work on Monday, there will be $145,000 reduction to both the school transfer and to the general government budget. The general government budget has an actual $261,000 and cuts to spending. So the delta between $261,45 is going into a contingency. The tax rate will be the one penny reduction tax rate. That was discussed on Monday night. I have discussed this with schools and with Peter. And Peter had a request that I said I would delay, but it also noted that I don't think it's aligned with what the council wants to do. But Peter had a request that of that 145 pk reduction that 17,000 of that, so the delta between 145 and 127, be actually appropriated to the schools and put into a school contingency and that would be their stamping. The way 17,000 would work for the schools is that let's say they need another Spanish class. So they have a Spanish teacher, it was teaching five classes. In order to have that Spanish teacher teach six classes, there's a payment, you know, that is much less than 17,000, so they can do that on a set of all iterations, call it a math class or this, that other thing. I said I would delay that request that the council is having their mayors meeting on Wednesday morning, but also will lay that I think was the council's intention that it would be that 145K. Reduction to the transfer. What do you all think? So the option. So if we don't do, if we leave it the way we said it Monday night, and the schools need to hire a new Spanish teacher, that was kind of the process question I asked with a large amount of money. What's the process to access that money that would be in the reserve available to the schools that would be more steps to get into? So that is the procedural thing that is a procedural thing? It's an issue. To make that request, the superintendent would give the school board, the school board would consider it, make the request to the City Council, be part of a budget amendment council without first reading and second reading. So probably the fastest the bet could be done is 45 days. So I think the difference between the two is whether it's going to be a revenue contingency or whether it's going to be expenditure content and whether you want to reduce the budget 525,000 for each of us or whether you want to reduce the budget by 1277,500 because if we give a expenditure contingency on the school side, then their budget transfer is actually just decreasing by 127,500. That's the main difference between the two versus two. I think five, which was the original. No, well, yeah, well, versus two, 85, but worse is the 145. So 17,500 in what the direction was on Monday was we take that 17,500 from both sides, that 35,000 is added to the revenue contingency. So the decision is whether you plan to use that money, if there are news situations doing the link down the next few months or whether you want and have both the sides look for other savings, vacancies, or whatever else to look for the needs that we have that come on Adhoff needs. Or do you want to allow a expenditure? See, and I mean, we need to know this because this will determine what the ordinance transfer amount is for the school. Can we rewind? So in page 33 of the school's budget presentation, they already had a separate 127,000 study reserved for enrollment. Is that gone away? Is that still there? Are they saying you want to plus that up by another 20,000? We better understand that. So it's my understanding that with the budget reduction that goes away. So this would be. There are no cuts. No expense cuts. There's a contingent. When the 1.25 was offered up, it was to not fill a position, not to get reserved. I guess it would be helpful for us to understand that there's still a separate reserve and there's just not feeling vacancy to be known. That detail. From there. a position not to get rather reserved. I guess it would be helpful for us to understand that there's still a separate reserve and there's just not feeling big and see to be known that detail. And the, I think it's the same thing. I think they had a position at the end of the school board. They had the BIP coordinator position and it was 127 dollars that the staff had put it, the school board took that help and they said no, we're gonna use that for our staff and contingency. We don't want to commit to a PYP coordinator. So when it was presented to us, that one, 27 was a staffing contingency, not a PYP coordinator position. So inciting it, but the staff members they received will go away. So it's not an exact position of the school board decided they didn't want to commit to one position because they weren't sure where the need would be. So that's by understanding them, watching men to the school board and then. Well, in the budget that they presented to us, it was still in there. Yeah, so they kept it in there. Yeah, but we didn't. No, they kept it in there. Yeah. But I'm not even deciding to any. And I guess that's what I want to understand is in the 145, those offered up Monday night that were all putting in towards one penny. It was my understanding was they were putting in 145. Now they're saying they have one to put in 147. Right. And then take the other. the difference can put it in extra reserves. So the first one I guess is the confirmed is, is those that be contingent going the way? And therefore they have no more contingency. I as a general follow up questions is generally the schools end with year and balances. So I'd like to know what their year and balances been say the past five years or so. And understand whether they're going to end this fiscal year with money that they usually roll into next year's budgets. Do you mean after they spent one time with the end of the year? I think the policy at the start was 450,000 and they put it in. They're not allowed to keep more youth, but lean percent, two percent. If some policy they have, we talk about every year. Everybody ends with year-end money. Before we plus up extra reserve, one, I guess I want to hold this big commitment that we all did hard work together to one penny, why in fact, is doing more than one penny, and we're putting that into contingency. So it's already not 50-50 into a revenue contingency. Or is that expense contingency? Let's see how it goes. The split of what's revenue contingency, or is it expense contingency? So they're very different in my mind. The expense contingency in my mind is to support HHS programs. And the revenue contingency is to support our, you know, to have some small buffer on our concerns about revenue reduction or moving into next year's budget revenue reduction. So the 500K is revenue contingency, about 133K is the next kind of trick. Can you remind me that 500K revenue contingency, that if we need to get into it and it's spread out between general government and schools, did that $500,000 contingency come solely from our side or was that $500,000 contingency originally cost-bred. I took us to be doing the contribution to the $500,000 contingency or did that come across everyone's budget? So it's across both because it's after the December revenues when we did March projections, they were slightly higher so we put it first towards the contingency. And then our other infuses on the city side were the interest income and the violations from the speed camera. So that contingencies for both to share. And it is for revenues that are shared, the general one, tax revenues. And both are contributing into it, if you initially, the double-pilot. It's comprised of local taxes. Therefore, it's part of the ref sharing agreement. So it's outside them. If you're this separate, it's outside them. It's before revolutions. It's kind of like what's actually there. We are our responsibilities, the tax rate. That comes out first. And then we took out the revenue contingency. And then we split the money 5050. But emotionally, we have envisioned the scenario where revenues are far enough this week or year. What we took it to do is say schools you'll need to cut, John Garment, we need to cut. And there's 500,000 is a buffer against that. No, no, I was just trying to, my mind, to figure out when we were departing from 50-50, where we departing from 50-50 only in the 133, or whatever it was, 116, you're doing more on your side in the cut, and that it didn't equate to 616,000. Yeah Yeah those are two different things. So the hundred sixteen was out of the city's portion. Yeah and and the five hundred is on the general pool before coming back to city's portion. And if say for example we revise our revenue projections by a million dollars paying December or not for a bit happens. But then the 500 helps lower mitigate that. And then the remaining 500, if we were to follow the revenue share, we both have to figure out cuts. Just as an example. So what do people think about? Here's your first. The other contingency is the expenditure contingency, right? 130 free shafts, 150. 160. 16. Yeah. Between two sites and one and one site. 116. And that's an additional cuts. The city has determined to me. That's where it's not that over. It's that why it found 261. We only need 145 to get to a penny. But 1 to 275. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but the other thing is that it's actually one of the things that I'm going to me. That's where it's not that we're thinking that why it found 261 we only need 145 to get to a penny. But 1775 yeah, the different 1861 and 1847, I mean I said why it found more that's we're putting into a separate contingency now and see like doesn't really feel like 50.50. If this were done then the revenue, sorry the expenditure can be tenancy would not be one thirty-three of you. Thirty-three minus seventeen thousand. Well, the seventeen is already going to the revenue contingency. So our expenditure contingencies one sixteen. Right? Because both of us are putting the seventeen thousand into the revenue contingency. But you're saying it wasn't going in there. The 175-35, the revenue contingency would be 500 and they would get the 175 in their transaction. It would be 175 into $1.6 billion or safety net contingency over $1.16 plus $7. So we'll get to $1.3. Yeah. I mean, I don't love like, like, you know, overlord like this overlord like up 17,500 dollars. But I think it's the point of this is to try to reduce or have people be much more cognizant of the spending, right? And the expenditures overall. I do wonder like, you know, I know people don't like to have the company counsel for like $10,000 or $15,000, but like, is there a way to send up so it doesn't require the only way to set up the desk required 45 days? We say that we believe that the $69,000 school budget they can't find $10,000 in the summer. I mean, I just don't have insight, which is why I ask about what have been our year and balances because I think every year we end up with more than 2%. We end up rolling it into next year's budget as my understanding. I don't need the details, but at least historically, we've been able to find the money by the end of the year, because we usually have some understanding, and there's some, you know, we sell our savings, a lot of that. So, instead of understanding, do we pay, I thought we paid teacher salary regardless of, they taught three classes or four classes or five of those, or is that a goal? get a bump up for the number of classes taught and that changes mid-year. I don't know about mid-year, but I do have a very different variation depending on how. If you pay, if you teach. You're a serious son differentiation, depending on how much. If you pay, if you teach, if there's a contract to teach five classes, if there's any extra math class, they ask the teachers to use six classes. They get a little extra bonus for that. They get extra bonus. So the 45 days, can yet could that, is that a policy meter? that be shortened, could you do like I know you don't usually do business at a work session but could you do you know to to tighten that kind of frame that they can ask for that money? Oh you know it could be done. I think probably just for like managing expectations 45 days probably realistic.. Okay. The other question I would have is people worry about enrollment. It's probably worth doing another where students live kind of analysis by the end of the year. I think there's a sound bite that oh my gosh, we've had 30 new students come in in 2025 and we dig into it. Majority then don't actually come from excuse, but we should only keep an eye on it. And so we should understand, like, do we really have an improvement? It should be his absolute. We want to be good partners if we see higher than expected enrollment, regardless of where they're coming from. So I think if we are paying attention to this, the 158 students, we should say 6% growth. If we're very, very worried that we're going to come in above that and look at the data we have now. See whether our projections are accurate and plan accordingly. But I think this year, just started by June 5th, I think like, so that info snare, I wish it had good, pretty good enrollment data. Obviously people move over the summer and things change, but it would be great to see that, June, data to know how many people have registered, what grades are they registered? Do we have pain points? Are we going to need a new third grade teacher? And if we have that data ahead of time, you know, 45 days could do enough time with theory, although we need to hire another teacher, $17,000 isn't it? Any other teacher? We have to make a different budget adjustment. Community exact amount, maybe on the day, like I said, it's kind of like when we were arguing over half the penny. Arguing over 15,000, 20,000, not a big deal. But the spirit of this is that we should be thinking about where to reduce costs, being cognizant of the broader economic environment and being nimble. And I think we need one more information before we can say. And I think the Spirit is also to reduce the packs burden and if 145 was offered up, it would be nice to have that contribution go towards the one penny that we all committed to a Monday. My view is that we should do the basic equal cuts that we've talked about. The schools have indicated that they're probably going to make a claim. And so I'm non-theological as to whether we set aside 17,500 now or they make a claim on it later. But we know it's probably going to happen. So is there a way to set that aside and make it more accessible to the schools for an emergency kind of circumstance and can we just do that as part of our budget activity? But I think I agree. I think I don't wanna reduce the share now that the schools are providing for the basic budget. But I think if the superintendent has asked for some sort of special kind of set aside, I think we're gonna find a way to do that. Even if it reduces one of the contingencies and we set aside the money or allocated, but I don't think we ought to reduce 145. Yeah, I mean, was the reaction was that like 145 came out of thin air? Or I don't know. I'm assuming that the, I feel remember that was a time exchange. So maybe the school board chair hadn't talked to the superintendent. I don't know. No, no, but I even, I mean, yeah, I just, yeah, the one point time. I mean, the 145 I thought came from that and it was reflective of something in their budget. And so I guess the one forty five to in my mind was not like we need to be a one forty five. It was I thought one forty five was anchored in something on the other side. And so I would prefer to keep the one forty five anchored in something we had an understanding of as opposed to. Oh, there's just this one124,000 salary reserve. But I agree with Mr. Schender that, you know, if there was a way that we could, you know, I know you said the 45 days are going to, you know, put out there an expectation we can't meet, but if we could be a little more nimble, but with a figure out a way that we could turn it around quicker, they didn't need that money. I would feel more, I feel better about holding on to it. So it would basically be like $17,500 school line items on stringency within the revenue contingency. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I'm really spending a lot of time on it. I mean, it's not about the issue on this. Again, I still would like to know what year and balance has it been. I mean, I can remember the last year, it was like over three million. And it was way above there 2%, and they had said that they were going to be looking at spending it, and they spend it on the wall field. So you can get my notes. I was like, I don't know what those are with numbers in the past five years. I don't feel like it's ridiculous that we're in the nearly-odgy. And people who are at the time will see the vaccine in a thousand when the data shows that we should be able to cover that historically. And maybe budgets are tighter and I understand that. We want to be nimble. But I do think that our job is should be able to cover that historically. And maybe budgets are tighter and I understand that. We want to be nimble, but I do think that our job is in your response to the overall tax rate, the tax burden and long-term concerns. And argue over 17,000 how to deploy more nimble is not the best use for us. Yeah. I know Mrs. McPray now. But there is an issue with baseball field that there's a budget because of a fence. They underestimate how tall the fence needed to be so that fall walls didn't go into 66. And so they have to now put forward a lot more money to make that that backstab that fence. Nine years is a word. Nine years, a lot taller. So I don't know how this that plays into this, but I'm assuming that if there's year in money, that's what they'll be using it for. And I know what you've got to school, but I know that might be part of what there's a business you've got right now. So they're trying to cover that cost? Do you mean how big of an issue that is? No, I don't. I'm trying to get into the details of the building. Do you have any footage of the data. What's the deal I have in assessment? I don't have an idea. How many of the costs is going to be? But it's significant again. OK, well, we actually lost our pensions waiting for the 9. But are there any other highlights to have a direction? So I think it's not resolved. We're going to prepare the ordinances the way it was discussed from the work session. It's discussion lab to hear if we were going to come up at night. Because I would like that information to help. Like again, confirm that the staffing reserve that they had set aside is gone now. That that's true. And then second, again, what have been their year on balances over the past five years? And then if it's possible to do the, you know, where students live in houses come June, regardless of, you know, what we'd say budget amendments to make hiring if our student number of seats where we are. So we have that to make those decisions. Anything else to highlight why it before we? I think that's it. Just be aware we do have a land use case coming in on the work session after next month. So the May 19th will have the make on the end of the day off, that's the application, and kind of the big inflection point on that project is whether in the project, kind of which should be on the EDA land, which is one of the decision points that they're looking for the cash flows weigh in on. We'll have more information on that in that work session. I think that's it. Okay. We'll need to make also go so to what we can use schedule that night. We'll go to the rest of the schedule after budget because we have a bunch of organizations and it's really just budget for PCs. I press the quick one. I think you can. Well, just a look over. I do question. I forgot to raise. I'm sorry. It's just on the stormwater utility fund. We had talked about. And I don't know if there's a formal action meeting to take on this, but you know that we would have staff look into the credits. And remember we had talked about whether there was anything for stormwater of memorializing a cap or an increase on the credit amount or trying to get to that credit amount. And so I don't know if we need to take action to do something like that, or if we just can staff can take up the work of. uh, what has a credit for the credits and the application process work. Yeah, thanks for bringing it up. We did let that slip. I will get a kind of a number on that. What's the line item for the credit program today? So it's a gas and some information. And if there is support for that, we can have a motion to aircraft on that to increase that dollar amount. Well, they've even use that guess. Yeah, I saw something that would like, there's like $124 from credits, your citywide or something. Yes, that's right. That's right. Yes, not will use the council could take the action on the budget. And then we followed behind it. Policy work. Okay. Thank you. Can I get one more? The 250th anniversary celebration. I've indicated that there's no money in the budget for that. I think the year end we may want to think about particularly because this is 250th anniversary. It is taken on for significant this and we're looking back. So if could give some consideration like the enemy expectations, trying to set very low like zero, but if you could consider that some amount to support. It is a good point, because the draw fourth, which is really in the next fiscal year, 27, but in 26 is where we're going to be spending all the money and pay for that celebration. And, uh, we're going to say, what about that? There's always a voluntary donation when you break a server, parks and rack, which you said, they go to July 4th, but we're not doing July 4th. I don't know if that money is accessible or if that's appropriate use. If there is anyone in that pot, but I've donated it to you over the years. Yeah, thank you. Can we just do the only thing? I'm very pleased to hear from Bob. I want to talk to you. Thank you. You've done so much here. Awesome. It's been a good teamwork here. I mean, my finance team is like big, like big support and I really appreciate all of you for the direction and I'm enjoying every bit of my time here and thank you very much for your leader for it. It has been a lot for me. Like I think the true budget person you're staying till the end of the fiscal year, right? I remember doing that at one of my other I'm pretty up over fun. I left the night the budget was adopted. Wee-yam! I'm a chocolate-like... I remember, I did that at one of my other videos. I left the night the budget was adopted. We am. One of the things that Keirann and I do after Council meetings, we look at each other. Did that make any sense to you? I was like, do you always think you said that? Let's try to end this. But I know you're that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let's try it in the, but I know. Thank you. Questions. Thank you already. You're all Monday. Thanks for also the. I was thinking of why I was thinking of that.