All right. I'd like to call the Allotterwood County Board of County Commissioners meeting to order for March 25, 2025 at 1131 AM. Try and move approval. We need your invocation pledge of allegiance first. Invocation? I guess the Reverend Ryan Hope Travis? Yes. Hello. Good morning. Good morning. I invite everyone to take a cleansing breath. We are reminded that that breath is our superpower. And that in this divine moment, there is only divinity. And we are expressions, the music, the light, the dance of that creator, that force. And we call forward all the love and attention that makes this concentrated body possible. And we call on the wisdom and the persistence that makes action possible. And we affirm that this meeting and in all that we do, we shine bright with possibility, honoring our forefathers, our ancestors, and the many generations to come. We affirm this truth by saying, and so it is, Ache, Aho, and Amen. Amen. Thank you. A pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, and one God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Okay, first item is the approval of the Regulator and the Consent Agenda? approval? I will second it, but I do have something that I would like us to discuss if we could without pulling it from the committee. It's a 7C for discussion. I don't really want to do anything except to highlight it's the bus procurement. There was someone at Surgeo had recommended that we got the e-mail recommending that we do it a different way and I just would like to have an Explanation is to why we are doing it the way we're doing it. Okay, if that's possible There you are good morning Morning j smour director for latcha County Park some space chair commissioners So when we did this process we worked with fleet management and the former manager Gerald Bailey looked at several different options from leasing to buying used. And what his determination was, is that most of the shuttles and buses on the market, the condition they were in and the amount of money that we'd have to invest in repairing them. And then the upkeep costs would be higher, that it would cost more in the long run and you'd have a shorter shelf life of that vehicle. So that's why he determined that this would be the best avenue for us to pursue. Thank you, thank you. This is the bus that we were going to use at Cusco Willabet. It's also gonna be used by other agencies as well. Correct, four Hs had some interest in that and also for Citizens Citizens Academy, also fire services when they have cadets and things that they needed to take a bunch of them to certain places and other agencies have talked about using it as well for various events. Thank you. Thank you, Jason. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted the public to understand why we weren't going to buy from our fleet or from the school board in order to make sure we had reliable transportation. Okay. Thank you. If it's just brought to my attention also that before we proceed with the approval of the agenda, we have to get Commissioner Cornell in the meeting first so we can have the right to vote. I would move extraordinary circumstances in order for Commissioner Plano to participate remotely. That second. Second. You got a motion in a second. Okay, those in favor of the motion vote. I sign of aye. Aye. I propose. Same sign. Motion carries. Okay, back to the motion on agenda. May I ask one question about that bus since we're on it? Yes. Are we considering coordinating with RTSO's school board in terms of purchasing buses from a company that they use so they have same maintenance? We could use their maintenance folks or take care of the vehicles the same way. I'm just thinking about saving money. So again, it is not an item for us to vote on or anything. We're already voting on it. We will be voting on it, but I just want to put it out there that I hope that we would look into that so that we could have an high quality procured. I believe we use the share of, Jason. It was, yeah, it was the sheriff's state contract. We purchased its Matthews bus company. What? It was already purchased before it's on the... No, no, no, no, no, no. So the pricing and quotes are off of the state contract. So it's not purchased yet. Gotcha. That's what the PO's there for. So it's a little different than RTS and some of that, but I think it's basically the maintenance that's going to be somewhere. But again, we can discuss that with fleet. If that's going to be a huge conflict we can look at another option. Thank you. Okay. Thank you Mr. Chair. Okay. Did Commissioner Cornel want to say anything? I thought I heard someone say something. I just wanted to say thank you all for letting me participate. I'm going to keep my comments to the end of the presentations if possible and minimize disruptions, but I would like to know if I need to speak. Okay. Sounds great. Thank you. Thanks, Chuck. Okay. We have a motion in a second. Are there any public comments to the motion that's on the floor? Could you repeat the motion, please? The motion will prove the agenda. The motion to approve the agenda. Okay, just making sure. Okay. Okay, seeing that I'm back to the board, those in favor of the motion vote by the side of I. Hi. I'm the pose same side of motion carries. Okay, next item is announcements. Good morning, Mr. Chair. Mark Sexton, communications director with your announcements. Mr. Chair, it's been a very exciting week for Letcher County. The manager has been very busy at the Sports and Events Center. The Visit Gainesville Alachua County staff has been at the Sports and Events Center every day this week and will be through the end of the event. My staff has been busy videotaping and photographing and documenting the World Masters 2025 indoor championships. I've got a short video that kind of know, it has been a remarkable event. And I've had the privilege of being there a lot and talking to a lot of people who are just thrilled with the facility and with the welcome that they've received from Alachua County and we want to let citizens know that you can go to our website every day if you are a track fanatic or someone who has a new track enthusiast every day we're're posting the results of the event and if you look at the most recent one we posted, I think I counted in these categories four or five championships records that have been set on our very fast track. When you get a new track, there's this moment of truth where you determine is it fast or slow, and we're very fortunate. ours is very fast, yet another reason why world masters loves being in Elatua County. So we want to encourage folks to go out to the Sports and Events Center, to West End, where the cross country and the long throwing events are happening. Spectators get in free. And it's not only what's going on on the field and in the center, but there's the athletes village. I was there the night before last, and I heard Marty Laquarry, who was only the third person in history to break a four-minute mile in high school. He was there playing his guitar for the athletes with his jazz band. And the vibe at Celebration Point is just amazing. So we encourage our residents to take advantage of this and to attend. And we're very happy that it's up and running. A lot of your staff, a lot of staff from the non-profits, Stephen Rodriguez, staff, red sports, the sports commission. This has been an amazing collaboration to make this possible. And we hope you and the residents will take advantage of it. And Mr. Chair, that's the announcement. Okay. Any comments? I do. Okay, go to the wheel of the taxi. Mark, that you haven't even touched on it, have you? In terms of how exciting this really is. No, it's hard to fill it all in. It is very exciting. Our celebration point in our community has been turned into the United Nations of master athletics. And I'm amazed that the teams of people that made that happen were able to do that in a years time. You know, our public works are everybody. Mainly the public works are parks, those people who are actually digging into the dirt and making those things happen. Guys, it's transformational for our community. And when I worked there Saturday as part of the welcoming team too, and to have all of these people come through our gates, come through the doors, and look for their country, you know, in order to sign in, it looked like an international airport, truly. And I'm just amazed at what this, these teams of people were able to do with an idea that we handed off to them. It blows my mind. It just makes me even more aware of how amazing our staff is in the county. All the different teams of people, the staff that we have working for us. for us. They didn't matter. I mean, we could tell them to build a ladder to the moon and somehow they would get it done. You know, it's just, it's impressive of the folks that we have locally working for the county and I hope that our citizens who help to pay their salaries appreciate the talent and the skill and the effort that they have put forward not just for this event But for the glory of the Lads Rock County. So thank you for covering that It's I would encourage all of you all to go I watched the 90-year-olds run today. I'm gonna start running soon Thank you, Mr. Chair and Mr. Chair. I neglected to mention mention that there was a transformation at Weston Park that took place in very short order. And the Parks Department led up that effort, but public works had a huge assist on that. So that was the magic that happened before the event even came. So thank you for reminding me of that. I haven't been able to get out due to some unbeing under the weather, but I do want to say thank you to everybody who made it possible. It's exciting times for our community and just would encourage folks in our community to get out there and see it. It's not every day that we get to interact with people from all over the world and it's a chance for us to learn from lots of people about the way other people live their lives and see athletes of Calibers like you're mentioning that used to run in the Olympics and jump in the Olympics are now here in our own community so make them feel welcome please. Okay Commissioner Alfred. I just want to thank you Mark. I got the opportunity to sit next to you for part of the event on Friday night. And the work that staff has put into this is, it's very visible. And the dedication of our staff to making this into a successful event is palpable. And I just want to thank everyone involved. I've never been as proud as I was of Elachio County as I was on Friday night. It was a beautiful celebration of our arts here in Elachio County, as well as athletics. And I love to see that where arts and athletics meet. But I just wanted to take the opportunity to thank everyone that helped to make this happen, because it was definitely a labor of love. And while I know that there are things that we can do better next time, I think we did a dang good job of making this come to pass in such a short amount of time. And Mr. Chair, Commissioner Wheeler was correct. I could blather on for hours of this event right now. But one thing since you mentioned the opening ceremony, real kudos to Jessica Hureoff and visit Gainesville, Alachua County. They're the ones that worked with the Gainesville Orchestra and Danza Live and DJ LEO and put together this incredible opening ceremony. That included, you know, athletes promenading around the track and there were some very dramatic moments there, like when Ukraine went by the audience and some other countries. And so it was a truly spectacular event. And when that video I showed at the beginning, when asked if anyone would like to join in, I mean, these people rushed to the floor. And it was a great party that night. Thank you. Okay. Commissioner Cornel, I wanted to say anything. Nah, I just said, did a great job staff and it's really a great, a great, it's a great week that's going on. I wish I could participate more but really proud of everybody stepping up to make it happen. I was really, really excited on Saturday evening to special the part I really enjoyed was the introduction of each country as they come by. And they had some cute little girls just waving. I mean, I thought that was so adorable to me. But was. So, but it was an excellent event. And, you know, as it was stated earlier, I mean, my head is off to our staff. They did an excellent job. I think that everybody was pleased. I think the guy Allen, I met the first time. He was very pleased at the way things have turned out. He really stressed that to me that everything is going on wrong well. I said, well great, I'm glad it does. If anything, Chase, please let me know. But yes, so I just want to say thanks, staff, and thank the manager and her staff for doing the excellent job with this event. So thank you. Okay. Okay, moving to the next item is the approval of recommendations. Move approval of rec-proc Reckon rec proclamations and recognition Okay Motion in a second any further discussion to the motion that's on the floor those in favor the motion by the sign of I Motion carries Right. Hello everyone. I get the distinct honor of declaring April as Water Conservation Month in Elachua County. And those in the room and those listening at home, you'll know that I think water conservation is one of the things that we take most seriously here in Elachua County. our land and our water and our air are the things that allow us to live here on this planet and we need them for our lives and so I'm just really proud of the work that this team at our county does to make sure that we have clean drinking water and refreshing waters for us to recreate in across our entire county. Whereas clean and resilient water resources are vital to Elatua County's environment, economy and quality of life. Whereas conservation of these resources is critical to sustaining and improving the health of creeks, lakes, the Santa Fe River and associated springs. Whereas a LATRA County has made outdoor water use water conservation priority by enforcing irrigation restrictions and the county-wide irrigation design code to minimize inefficient landscape irrigation and fertilizer pollution. And whereas businesses are invited to become community leaders in water conservation by discontinuing irrigation on established landscapes and properly maintaining their commercial irrigation systems. And whereas the Lattua County supports residents and business efforts to reduce water use via our irrigation tunups and rebates programs, educational campaigns, and our Florida Friendly Landscaping Code for Homeowners' Associations. And whereas by committing to saving water, every resident, business, industry, and school can join Alachro County's efforts to protect our climate and natural resources and reduce the need to invest in alternative water supplies. Now therefore, through the authority vested in me by the Board of County Commissioners of Alachro County, Florida, I do hereby proclaim April as Water Conservation Month in Alachua County. And I think we have a few comments from some of the team that makes all of this possible and we're really happy to have the Water Management District here today as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair and Commissioners for recognizing April is Water Conservation Month. And for truly your own wavering support in conserving water and protecting our springs, rivers and lakes. I did want to welcome our guest Bill White, who is the governmental affairs coordinator with the St. John's Rule of Water Management District in attendance today. And I also wanted to acknowledge Steve Hofstetter, who is EPD's director and members of our water conservation and outreach team, Holly Greer, Elise Feld, and Luke Secula. And as you probably noticed, St. C. Greco, who's our water resources manager, is not present today, could not be here, and either could Rebecca Hofman, but they're also key members of our team. And these individuals truly do the work in the community to help us conserve water. So this year we continue to enhance our water conservation programming and without giving too much away you may hear some of our messages on NPR thanks to Luke securing some airtime for us. As mentioned in the proclamation, we do, as you know, irrigation system can make up to 60% of a household water use, and that is a lot of water. So to reduce that demand, our team does offer free irrigation to an app to hire water use residential customers to help them say water and money and We also have rebate funds available to make water saving upgrades through the irrigation level up program We also try to engage really closely with property managers and business owners on Implementing the commercial irrigation system registration and annual maintenance requirement, which is somewhat new in our county. But truly, we could save a ton of water county-wide if we just all this continued irrigating well-established landscapes. So we do invite our business community to join us in our water conservation efforts and take advantage of our level up funds. And of course, we continue to promote floor-to-friendly landscapes and minimize or eliminate inputs like irrigation, fertilizer, and pesticides. And we do that through a lot of social media campaigns, just presentations in the community, and one-on-one interactions with homeowners. So mentioning all these programs for the benefits of those present today and those watching online online in case you're curious about how you can reduce your water use and if you want to reach out to our team. I just wanted to thank you one more time, commissioners, for your ongoing support and for really leading away in water conservation efforts. Okay, thank you proclamation will be to recognize the week of March 16th as National Safe Space Week in in the outlaw county, Florida. And then following that presentation will be the next one declaring March as the National Athletic Training Month in Allotua County, Florida. So I'm doing the one declaring March 16th as the National Safe Space Week in Elatua County, Florida. Declaring the week of March 16th, 2025 as National Safe Space Week in Elatua County, Florida, whereas the youth of Gainesville, Florida will determine the future strengths of our county and be the bearer of our democracy. And whereas youth need a safe haven from various negative influences such as child abuse, substance abuse, depression, and crime, and youth need readily available resources to assist them in facing with circumstances that compromise their safety. And whereas the Safe Space Program committed to protecting the youth of Gainesville by offering access to immediate help and safety for young people seeking assistance and guidance. And whereas there are community organizations that operate safe space program in the area with the support of numerous local businesses and volunteers who make their facilities available to assist in providing a safe environment for those in need, whereas increase awareness will encourage more communities to establish safe space location where youth can readily access the help they need. Therefore, through the authority vested in me by the Board of County Commissioners of Elatua County, Florida, March 16, 2025, as National Safe Space Week in Elitio County, Florida. Dolly McClain, this 25th day, AD 2025, assigned by yours, Julie Me, and also attested by J.K. Jess Erby. And would you like to make some comments? And I'd like to present this to you. Thank you. Thank you. Hi. Good afternoon commissioners. My name is Joy Cullinan and I am here on behalf of CDS, Family and Behavioral Health Services to thank you for this proclamation recognizing National Safe Place Week. Your support helps shine a light on the urgent needs of homeless and runaway youth and youth otherwise in crisis in our community and the critical resources available to them. We appreciate your partnership and your dedication to keeping our youth safe. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hi, are you joining me for this one? Yes, wonderful. Okay. I feel like this proclamation is hard to not take this a little bit personally because this is proclamation declaring March as National Athletic Training Month, something that I'm not particularly good at in Elacha County, Florida. Whereas the Athletic Trainers Association of Florida was founded in the year 1983 as an organization committed to the education of its members and the enhancement of the profession of athletic training, creating better health care for the population it serves. whereas whereas athletic trainers from professional, collegiate and high school teams, industries, physician offices, rehabilitation clinics, and every branch of the United States military work together to promote and practice the profession of athletic training within a Lachua County of the state of Florida. And whereas athletic trainers have a long history of providing quality health care for athletes and people engaged in regular physical activity. And whereas athletic trainers are highly skilled healthcare professionals who specialize in immediate, acute, and emergency care, examination, assessment and diagnosis, injury prevention, risk management, therapeutic intervention, and rehabilitation of injury and illness. And whereas the National Athletic Trainers Association represents and supports more than 45,000 members of the athletic training profession, including more than 3,000 athletic trainers in the state of Florida. And whereas leading organizations concerned with athletic training and health care have united in a common commitment to raise public awareness of the importance of the profession of athletic training and the role of athletic trainers in the provision of quality health care services. And whereas it is the desire of a Lachua County of the state of Florida to promote improved health care for athletes and all of those who engage in physical activity. Now therefore, through the authority invested in me by the, vested in me by the Board of County Commissioners of Elatra County, Florida, I do hereby proclaim March as National Athletic Training Month. In Elatra County, Florida, Dually proclaimed this day the 25th of March, AD 2025, and signed by our chair, Chuck Chestnut, and a test to do by Jeff Servey. And I just wanna say, given the fact that we have some of our fire rescue folks sitting in here in the building, we have many athletes and folks that have been training through athletics that work with our fire rescue services that's one of the most physically demanding jobs that you can have. So I wanted to acknowledge that they're also very much a part of this proclamation. So I'd like to present this to you and if you would like to say a few words. Thank you. You're very welcome. Hi everyone. My name is Patty Trip. I am an athletic trainer here in Lewa County. I also serve as the president of the Southeast Athletic Trainers Association. It is the district that includes the state of Florida. We have seven districts and two territories in our district. And I'm here representing the Athletic Trainers Association of Florida. We have over 60 certified and licensed athletic trainers here in Latchewa County that provide health care services to our secondary school athletes, our collegiate athletes both of the university and the college as well as working in the physician office setting. We collaborate with our emergency management, our firefighters and EMS on a regular basis on this Friday night football games and we're very appreciative of all of you. And so we're really grateful to the commission to recognize our month. And it's about 55,000 strong internationally. So we're a very small niche profession within the healthcare industry, but we make a big impact here in the county. So thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Our next item is the boards and committee items, the rule concerning advisory committee update. It's public comment. Okay. So we'll pause for public comments. Mr. Charajim Connish, what's my privilege to meet Peter in your environmental protection department recently? And I congratulate you for finding someone to fill CRISPR's big shoes. Going back to 2005, GRU's net position has been flat to negative. The debts skyrocketed off the chart and the liabilities are greater than those. So, your U is not credit worthy to go out and build a two or four billion dollar gas power plant because they can't finance it. Mr. Bellarski refers to the aging arsenal of GRU plants as some great diversified asset, the acid, but in fact, 50, if you can see, put the whole thing. But in fact, 51.3% of this plant is scheduled to be retired by 2032, beginning next year. The solar blood, the sand bluff, that didn't happen you you're aware of that. So the thing to really appreciate is the one Duke Transmission line that takes care of UF and other customers G.R.U. has no firm availability. They can only use it if it's available. So they have to have tremendous excess capacity because they can't rely on being able to go out there and replace the output for the entire power plant, particularly in a disaster. So we're facing the wall where we don't have the ability to buy our power wholesale, and we're running out of the ability to generate our power. This happened after World War II, which is why GRU lost UF. So what has to happen is we need firm availability and these plants are going to have to be retired. Now, Mr. Bilarski is advancing this theory with no evidence that he can take these dirty plants that pollute our environment with the high rates associated with all this debt. And he could run them indefinitely with no facts, no data, no risk analysis. And that's very questionable. I would ask you to use your large and competent staff to ask the question where are we going to get our power at at night in the 2030s when the solar panels go to zero. We need to decide this and keep in mind we've already learned through the county's efforts that the the pollution coming off of I-75 at ground level is greater than GRU's pollution and it's increasing all the time. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. Is it still good afternoon? I want to urge everybody here to think well ahead. This morning's news from state government statements is no more comforting than the last month and a half has been. We heard the governor of our state this morning talking about a constitutional convention. I think I've been before y'all several weeks ago saying that we're headed for scrapping the Constitution. But I hope that we will try to keep our heads above water and focus on where we are. Florida wants to get rid of the property tax. So if they get rid of the property tax that means means the state is going to double, triple, quadruple, whatever, all the fees it has, the road, tolls, the fees, and assessments and taxes, and probably come up with a lot of new ones, trying probably to equal the amount of capital that had been raised on property tax, but it will be in control of the state instead of local governments, which means that every local government will rely on the legislature passing 67 or more appropriations in an omnibus bill every session, which means that you will be in the position like Mayor Bowser in DC. Any ultimate moment can come to you and tell you, do this or that my way or no funding. In fact, you might as well start an ultimate scrapbook from how this state is going to run if they crash property tax and you have to go back to the state constantly for your everyday funding. I think this is part of all power and resources flowing up. The federal government will probably take control of the states through this constitutional convention issue and you already have experience the dozens of prohibitions that the legislature has put on you as local government and it's always power coalescing by flowing up and of course well flowing up like like Mr, she taking Verizon out of the FCC deal to rewire air traffic and shows so he can insert Starlink. We're going to see that as an everyday behavior. There's not even any, there's no shame about it. And this is going to happen all over the place. We're going to see power and wealth flowing up. And it's going to put a lot of strings on you. So, we prepare. Can I go now? Yes, ma'am. I'll be named for their name. Hi, my name is Diane D'Ampireo and I'm here representing the legal womeners of Alachua County. Thank you for funding that will help us kickstart our campaign against gun violence. The League of Women Voters of Florida has identified gun violence as an important statewide initiative. And we have a local committee called gun violence prevention and safety, which is under the leadership of Gwendolyn Sappho. And you know we're always hearing about the national statistics and of course we're watching with great satisfaction our local statistics being reported by law enforcement. But we really wanted to have this campaign be targeted specifically to Alachua and we didn't have anything for those statistics. So Gwendolin asked for a report, a comprehensive report on gun violence in a Lachua County. The report shows that gun violence in the rate of gun violence in a Lachua County has traditionally been below the state rate. But in 2020, it went up. And it's come down a little bit, but it's still higher than it had been. In 2022 and 2023, does some of the recent data that we have. In both of those years, there were 40 deaths. Homicide, excuse me, firearm deaths in a Lachua County. But there's a difference in the profile. In 2022, there were 15 deaths from homicide. And in 2023, there were eight. So we all know that law enforcement and community partners have been doing a great job and that's showing in the 2023 data, and I know that it's continuing to be successful. But unfortunately, the number of deaths from suicide increased from 24 in 2022 to 30 in 2023. And the number of suicides has gone up every year. It's just a latch-wacounty has gone up every year since 2019. So now 75% of the firearm deaths in a latch-wacounty are from suicide. And although the majority of deaths are in adults who are 55 and older and that's somewhat similar to the national data, they are disturbing, to me, very disturbing, number of suicide deaths in the younger population. And so I did an analysis of the last six years and the largest single group, the data reported in groups, the largest single group that experienced the largest number of suicides with people between 25 and 34. So our community campaign will support ongoing efforts of reducing firearm, homicides and assaults, but we will include an emphasis on firearm suicide. So on behalf of the legal women voters, thank you for funding our community campaign to reduce gun violence, especially suicide. Thank you. Are there still one more person, Mark? Oh. Sorry, Mark. You're not going to lie, right? Good afternoon, Brian Bischer. Very nice to see you all. Weather is wonderful out there. I want to thank the League of Women voters for hosting the candidates for them in the city of to a new berry. Their efforts to bring awareness to these local municipal elections is really to be commended. Thanks. And. candidates for them in the city of Alachua and Newberry. Their efforts to bring awareness to these local municipal elections is really to be commended thanks. And perhaps their efforts will raise the voter turnout above the 15% level this year, which is pretty dramatic since it's 85% in a general election. I also want to thank the county for the master's track event. My wife and I went yesterday. I know you guys praised it up, but it's everything you said it wasn't more. I mean, we just had a great time. In fact, on my way here, I was talking on the phone with Vicki and we were going over the schedule and planning which other events we were going to go to this week up until Sunday. So thanks for putting that all together. I'd never been to the event center. What an incredible facility. Love it. It's just great. And always great to see records being broken in the 75-year-old category. So. And I'm also here today with an update on Mill Creek Sync in the city of Alachua. As you know, that's my pet project. Last night, and I'll just read this off. Last night, the City Commission meeting, their council spoke out about being circumvented as the terror April project was being asked to be put on the agenda at the last minute in January. And this is the reason why the three quarters of their planners left. She also brought up her concern about bringing contested development plans forward without adequate time for counsel to prepare for quasi-judicial hearings. She oftentimes doesn't find out about it until the board packet is provided to her on the Thursday before the Monday meeting, which is not nearly enough time to prepare for contested quasi-juddishal as council here may attest to. And she also indicated that the city may be trying to bring Tara April forward in April. Again, even without a planning staff. And so that's just something I want to make sure is on the county's radar. Because that is and should be a contested development. The city manager made some points about that being just a small sliver of land that really he thought would be okay to push through because it doesn't have any cave system. And that it would just be water retention utility to be able to clean the water. But as we know, it's on the opposite side of the creek from everything, so how does that work? And I guess one thing is that at one point, either the manager or one of the commission members stated that the city attorney's approach was looking anti-development. Bottom line, keep tabs on what the city may be trying to put through with minimal amount of notice. Thank you. Thank you. All right. I'm going Orlando area. I used to live here probably 25 years ago and I still own property on Lake Shore Drive family over. And I understand they want to re-zone it to put in multi-family housing. I think 150 homes. I want, I'm hope that you guys consider the environmental impacts of all that and the aesthetics of what it would do to the Lakeshore Drive and the Palm Point park out there because once you lose this stuff it never comes back. So anyway, thank you for your time. Mr. Chair, a name. Yes, you need a name. Oh, state your name for the record again. My name is Tom Pogany, POGA and why? Okay. Okay. Mr. Chair, there are no callers today. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Prisya. I just want to. Sorry. I just wanted to quickly respond. Thank you for the heads up regarding the Mill Creek Sink information. I hope our staff already had that, but we appreciate it. And secondarily, thank you to the League of Women Voters for focusing on suicide as an important part of gun violence prevention. I've been really proud of what our law enforcement collaboration has been able to do in terms of crime reduction, but suicide is something that really takes a community approach. So we're excited for that. And last but at least for Tom, rezoning's R-Quaside additional. So we have a process for that, and I would highly recommend that you look into that process and consider if you're more affected than the average person due to your property ownership to become a party to that quasi-digital hearing. And I just wanted to put that out there. Thank you. OK, Commissioner Wheeler. Yes, sir. I just have a quick question. Are we following the transitions that G.R.U. are taking? I don't know if there's anybody from our staff that we have someone there who is assigned or is watching what's happening with G.R.U. I know a couple of years ago I watched a big gas line coming through into that area and it was from Florida gas and I was asking then if we were ever informed about these gas lines going through the county and if we're keeping up with where they are and who's responsible for them because I know before I came on this board I was very active with working against the Sabel Trail pipeline coming in to Florida. And so I just didn't know if we are, if we have anybody on our staff who's just got at least their finger on that pulse to let us know where the gas is coming from, where the lines are, if we really are converting to gas, what that looks like. So is there anybody out there who knows? Are we watching? I know Mr. Connish, this is one of his big things, but I realize too that I've been had my eyes on gas coming in. I mean to the extent that they're digging up our right of way I would assume we do but we'll verify what information we receive and how we receive that. I think it just if we just you know our have a heads up you know as to what's going on out there it's pretty important because when we were working against the stable trail you know it property values values were affected You know people safety were concerns were an issue and you know gas, you know, it has its issues as well So thank you for that Thank you, Mr. Chair Okay, all right move to our next item which is the boarding committees items the rule concern the Rule Concern Advisory Committee Update, annual work plan. Morning, Mr. Chair. Ken McMurray, I'm the staff liaison for the Rural Concerns Advisory Committee, and it is with great pleasure that I present to you, Dr. Rodney Klauser, who's the Chair of the Committee, and he'll do the update presentation for you today. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. I had a reflection moment back this morning as I get ready to come down. So first time I worked with the last county commission was in 1981. First two commissioners were Ed Turf and John Schroffer. As just before I retired, Association counties had me come up and do some work for them. And they did filming all day. I remember Commissioner Willard, Commissioner Alfred, were in that training that they put into a video archive. So I've had a long history. I've joined every minute of it. And I appreciate the opportunity to be here. I'll try to be brief. I didn't do a slide presentation this year, but just when I summarized a couple things. Two things I want to point out is the root concerns of Isaac to me has several responsibilities. I think two of the more important are insisting the development and evaluation of policies and programs affecting the rural areas of the county. The second one I want to stress this year's represent the rural areas and the county's various community planning processes and hearings. And we've definitely done that in the past year. I'm happy report that we were fully all positions filled on the committee. That lasted for one meeting and now we're searching for a person again, but it's good to have a full staff meeting. We're still operating the committee under our three-peller plan that we developed several years ago and we try to put the issues we address and the requests we get into rural health and service delivery, rural economic development and rural policy concerns. So we focused in these areas And our recent focus has been on rural economic development and Sean McClendon has been out several times and he's talked with us about the food hub, the small producer agriculture grant program. We're very interested in what's going on with the economic development manager, the ag economic development manager and we're waiting for that to be announced and we also also had Sean talk to us some about the climate action plan in terms of the agriculture and food security element. We've also had and spent a lot of time with Andy Christman in the agriculture land protection strategies. So that's sort of been our focuses this year. In fact we probably commented a little bit more. The committee had me as chairs in the specific letter of support to the board for the County Agricultural Land Protection Strategy. We appreciate not only the time that Andy invested with us, but how she listened to some of the concerns. We're looking to forward to how that advisory board's going to be structured and pointed now, so we're still following that. And we spent a lot of time with the land development, cold amendments affecting the rural areas. And so the growth management staff contributed in that as well as fire safety. Specifically we focused in on RVs, mobile tiny homes, temporary living quarters, the thousand foot roadway links and rural subdivisions, temporary use permits and filming permits and the community engagement process and the expanded notification. So we were heavily involved in those things and I think we'll keep doing that. So the committee also I think would want me to express, we've seen some positive things as she we want you to know about. The committee is very excited that the signage has gone up on no trucks on many of the county roads. So that's work fine. And there's still a few glitches that we're noting as we go along, the issue is the enforcement. Most of them is down a lot, but it's not completely present. And I think that's going to lead the committee into a session where we're going to delve into a variety of issues related concerns with the enforcement issues and what's the trade-off between the technology versus humans in terms of patrolling and enforcing laws and rules and regulations. And then we continue to will provide input on the Ag Land Protection Strategy whenever possible and we'll be happy to visit with Andy and if she has any more comments that she'd like to receive from us, we'd be happy to do it. That's only a snapshot. I try to do it in three minutes in case you have any questions. I will tell you, this is probably the last time I'll be making this presentation for the Rooster Concerns Committee. I've been on the committee for seven years. I've been either acting chair or chair for six years. And I think we have a couple of other folks that come on the committee and I don't believe in term limits but I believe as other people grow in their leadership time we rotate around so I do not plan being chair unless they really really badly want me to be so I've enjoyed the opportunity to continue work with the Board of County Commissioners. I would say we've got to be very nimble on our feet this year because primarily what happens in DC can have some huge impacts in the ag and rural areas. And it's a little bit early but the talk of the tariffs and the impacts in the agriculture community and different things like that may be something that becomes a critical concern that we have to focus on. So that would be my general report for the committee and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Any questions? I just have a comment. I just want to say it is good to see you here and thank goodness that you have been a part of the work ongoing. The things that you've outlined that you all are discussing as a board has got to make it much more exciting because it sounds like you've really expanded your vision for what the needs of our ag community are and I appreciate that. I'm recently come across the little building out on Hawthorne Road in 234. It was unused and it's being used now by Swallowtail Farm as an outpost. And I really think that's an exciting idea of having these little outposts out in the community where farm produce can be distributed. I don't know what they're doing, but I've seen cars out there and I've seen a big mural going on the side of it. So I don't know if that's the sort of thing you all are talking about or you know about, but... We have some before that. In fact, I would expect... We've been having not all the time, but we've had pretty regular attendance. So we've got some issues. There were two people at our last meeting who wanted to talk about some of the concerns with zoning and erasing of poultry and different things like that and we advised them that they should come and visit with you and point those emails in the right direction. We've also been able to bridge the gap so there's some issue right now between some of the ag producers and the assessment of the land. we've've had the proctorial prazer's office come in and clearly spell out what's done. That's led to more questions and some still replies. But we're always happy to get ideas and look like that at issues like that. So we thank you for that input. Well, it's obvious that you all have expanded the way you're looking at all of these things and I appreciate you being there to do that. I understand that stepping aside to hope that, you know, let somebody else there involve it. I hope you will stay. I'm here in my silence. I think my, I'm the University of Florida representative on the committee. So I think my terms up at the end of this year. I think my wife would really like for me to retire, but that's hard for me to get. Okay, I get it. I get it. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Other questions? Yeah, Commissioner Prisiot, and Commissioner Alfred and Commissioner Cornell. Well, first, thank you. Thank you for your years of service both through the University and to the committee we really appreciate your input and everything that you've done to sort of try to foster that committee to be something that really is an advocate for the rural communities and for agricultural communities as well so thank you for all of your service. A quicker thing on the enforcement I would just encourage is you're thinking about enforcement to remember we have a separately elected official who handles enforcement for us. So definitely invite them to the table when you're having those conversation. You're on there, we're waiting for them to get their data together. Great. I think they're tentatively scheduled for May or June meeting. Great. And I don't know if some of its codes and some of its more law type stuff, but if there or a code type thing, definitely inviting our to be there, it would be something of importance. And then on the appraisal side, I just wanted to let you know that I too have been, I read the minutes of your meeting, I've been sort of having conversations with the property appraisal and connecting them with our extension office so that they can have discussions about how we can create some documents and support things that might help farmers to understand the appraisal process and begin to understand the things that they need to do when they apply for the appraisals and what to do in the instance that they don't get what they need. So I've been in those conversations too and if there are any other inputs that the Royal Advisory Committee has on that, I'm sure I know that I used to solve it. Our property appraisers have been really open and interested to learn and to connect her appraisers with the people in the community who understand that area. We're in there too, up and out, and they spent a long time with us, and there were a lot of producer types who showed up that meeting. I'm talking nine or ten or so. Plus some people from the State Farm Bureau office. And so they got to ask a lot of questions. And I guess the devil is always in the details. So we're still getting some reports. There's some difference between what they were told there and how it actually happens. So I'm sure we'll probably have to follow up some on that. And we do realize there's a separate constitutional for sort of responsible for that. Thank you. Sure. I just want to say thank you, Dr. Clauser, for your service. It's always I thoroughly enjoyed your presentations at the Florida Association of Counties training program. I'm working with that group. I see them. I still they're wonderful. Lots of wonderful program and I appreciate your involvement. I just want to say I believe that I've probably visited the role concerns advisor committee more than any other of our committees and I always. Yeah and I'm always I'm always happy to to sit in through one of your meetings. So I look forward to a future invitation and. Yeah, I figured and but thank you again and I there's nothing else I can add that they haven't already said so okay. You're welcome Okay, Commissioner Cornell Thank you I figured, but thank you again. And there's nothing else I can add that they haven't already said. Okay, you're welcome. Okay, Commissioner Cornell. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Did a Dr. Klaude, thanks for your service and all your work at FACC. We received a quick question. We received an email a couple of weeks ago from Ms. Crenshaw, Liz Allen Windsor, about updating our code, when use code for poultry for chickens. Did you guys have a discussion about that at the rural concerns? And is there any recommendation that you could give this board? We haven't had one yet. They did come to our last meeting and they did comment. And there were two people who showed up. And obviously we pointed them in the directions and we encourage them to also make use of the citizen comment. But yes, committee did talk about that briefly that day. I think if the board would like some input on what the committee's feeling is that, if that could be identified that we would take that to heart and get that done fairly soon. Yeah, it would seem like commissioners that we've got a couple of rural zoning districts that only allow one to five Maybe maybe six chickens on one to five acres and that could Certainly be updated. I think we have some Zoning areas that allow up to 40 but there are many counties that don't have a limit or certainly have a much higher limit in the rural areas. And I think it's the R1R district where there are limited. Yeah, R1C is what her email said. OK, R1C. So they're limited to six birds and run large lots. And people just on the other side of the road are different, in that R1 R category and they can have up to 4B. Yeah and I think the city allows up to 10 in the city limits so just something maybe to look at and have our staff initiate a change if that makes sense. Yeah well and you know if you want to consider this as sort of a formal request for the committee and go back and do that we can do that or you can send us a letter and I think it'd be happy to do it. Do we need a motion for that? I'm happy to make that motion. Can I, I guess I was actually hoping that we could bring this and other urban agricultural issues and issues of sort of ag and urban development up during our EAR process and have it be a part of that. So it would sort of fall in line with some of the other edits because I think there are other places where we could make edits. So perhaps we could, once we have kind of that list, we could send a letter referring it to you all to give us some of your input and recommendations. And then if you're okay with that kind of waiting until we're in that process, awesome. Thank you. Because I do think there's a difference between, you know, ag and production level, which isn't regulated really any... kind of waiting until we're in that process. Awesome. Thank you. Because I do think there's a difference between, you know, ag and production level, which isn't regulated really anyway with land use. And then those that are just like having chickens for backyard and family production. And it helps bring the issue to a head when the price of eggs go up so high. Exactly. Yeah, for sure. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to say thank you for your service. I attended several of your classes through FACC and I really enjoyed it. So yeah, I just could always see you again. I wish you got down here more often. Okay. Alright. Thank you. All right Moving to our next item is the action items which is Renaming of the build of the budget in and Scotty Chin and I think that They gave us with tally sheets Can you have the names in front of you from the tally sheet? Can all you ask questions about where the names came from also Now someone could put those up on the screen that help okay I'm sorry. Oops. Okay, I got it. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Chair commissioners, Claudia Tuck, Acher Accounting Community Support Services. We have a team of your staff who have been working on the Motel Conversion for many years. I know it seems like an eternity to many of you. We did purchase both the budget in the Scottish in for conversion to permanent housing. We waited to bring forward the idea of naming until both were under construction contracts, which I'm happy to report with today's consent agenda. They both are. We anticipate opening at least completion of construction at the end of September 2025. So thought now you might want to talk about names and not continue to reference them as the budget in in Scottish. So we do have a committee of staff from multiple departments. We've bantered around about 30 different names that we've come forward and looked at. And we also came up with some historical information. So some of the names we've looked at are related to the environment and others are historical. So that the Scottishian originally was called Motel Taver and they were, it was originally constructed by Frank and Libby Taver. They opened it originally in the 50s and 60s in that era. We have located both of them are buried here at Evergreen and we have located the grandson spoken with him. He's very supportive if you would be interested in naming it based on a historical perspective. Also, the budget in was originally constructed by Frank and May Helen Hobbs. I have not been able to contact their family. I've tried. We also know that that was originally from the largest, farthest back point we can determine, was owned by former City Commissioner Harvey Bud. It was called the apartment in. But I could not come up with the original name for that. So before you is a tally sheet with names again, both for environment and historical perspective. Okay, Commissioner Alfred. I have really strong feelings about naming things for some historical perspective or for something that's geographically nearby or for someone or something that was meaningful. We did receive an email from Sergio Quentana suggesting naming them for a Rupa Freeman. And I thought that was, you know, given her work with a homeless that that would be a really fitting way to honor the work that she did for decades and our homeless population. I don't know if you guys remember Rupa, but I had also looked around and kicked around the idea of naming one of them the Tumbling Creek Efficiency the apartment since the tumbling creek runs runs nearby. And then the idea of I like the idea of Freeman's Haven because really it's not a manor and they're not villas so I kind of hate to call them something that they're not. So I those were my ideas for writings where Tumbling Creek Efficiency Apartments because there's already a Tumblin Creek Apartments located in Gainesville and Freeman's Haven for perhaps the budget end. But I like the idea of using taper, taper also since we have that, but I'm not I'm not married to it, you know, I'd rather have something that people can is more's more meaningful to the community, I think. Commissioner Prisya. I guess I'm totally in favor of naming something after a geographic proximity like Tumlin Creek, like naming after a creek that actually is there versus Willow Creek, something in Tumlin Creek would be wonderful. I have a hard time naming something after people without a lot of research having been done like on the fly. Not because I don't think it's a good idea to honor people, but I think that we've honored people in the past and then lived to regret it because of something else in their past. And while I'm sure these are wonderful people who did amazing things in our community, we just don't have that information and that historical research having been done. difficult for me to vote in favor of naming something after somebody until I have that documentation, not necessarily a Rupa, but that wasn't one of the names here. But you know, and I don't know a lot about her unfortunately, but I mean, again, like it sounds like she was an amazing champion for our homeless community, but we have a lot of those too. So I guess if we're going that vein, it feels to me like we should have done some research and had sort of a foundation and a basis for those names. And I appreciate the work that you did do to try to reach out to the family and make sure that they at least were willing and to have their name on these things. But I guess I feel better about doing something that's about a geographic proximity a nature-based name or a community-based name that has less potential potential charge even though I'm sure none of these do, but we just don't know. So that's my two cents. There's a wheeler. I was going with Willow Creek for the budget in too, because I like the idea of the creek. And Willow has a pretty sound to it. But Tumbling, if it's the name of the creek, I could go with that too to make sure that we're being true to the geography. And I don't have a problem with naming a table. But I would like the idea of table Glen, maybe rather than apartments or manor or villas which sound the idea of a Glen to me as a softer sound, Oh, Taber Glen. But, you know, I'm sure you all have done enough research on the family, yes, to know that there are no issues in connection with the name or the family. Chair, I was able to on the table as not as much on the Hobbes. Right, okay. Okay. So, I think there was a lot of leaning towards table from the group too. Yes, the folks that were doing the work out there and finding the, when there are postcards or something that were found out there, that, oh, okay, okay. Interesting. How neat was that? That's one of the original postcards. Postcards. Okay. Now, I would, I could support Taber, but like I say, I I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I you mine. They're not strongly held and I can be convinced. I like the nature theme. I like the word Commissioner Prisya was going. So I like the nature's edge. And then for the Scottish in, I like what Commissioner Alfred said about Haven. I like the forest haven. I can be convinced though of other names if it's the will of word. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, and I guess I'll share mine. I guess mine was a little creek and the other one was a farce view So I guess we can have five different But anyway, just wanted to keep with the nature Type of events because just recognizing the sight and where it is so yes so we need a motion you want to do a roll call you want to vote I can call each of you for your vote for budget then we can do Scottish afterward that sounds good yeah yeah okay so if I could start with commissioner Alfred, can I have your vote for budget in? Templin Creek apartments or efficiency apartments? Commissioner Wheeler. Templin Creek. Commissioner Cornell. Tumbling Creek. Commissioner Alfred. No, I'm sorry. Prision. OK. And chair Chesnut. Tumbling Creek. OK. Yes. Yes, manager. Can we make that name very clear because there is a Tumbling Creek already? Oh, that's why I said efficiency apartments because there's already a tumbling creek apartments, right? I don't want to put efficiency apartments. These are going to be one bedrooms. Yeah. Yeah, so maybe. What tumbling creek edge? Sure, tumbling creek. Yeah. Tumbling creek edge or Gwynn, that sounds fine. Yeah, like tumbling creek edge. Edge, me too. Okay, that works. That's a lot of name for somebody to say where they live. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. It could be Forest of the Unicorn. I don't think so. I love that's true. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah. The names that we found were Tumbling Creek Forest and also Arbors at Tumbling Creek. So there are two that have that in it. But that's okay. We have lots of things named University something. We have lots of things that are named after a lot of things. I think the geographic reference is important. Is it the same builder though or the same owner? No. Those Tumbling Creek things? No. No, they're not. No, they're not. Of Tumbling Creek, those others too? Were the owner of those? No. No, that's what I'm trying to find out is the other two owned by the same person so it might look like we are part of that. No. I don't know that it is. Arbors at Tumlin Creek is a 55 plus apartment, and Tumlin Creek looks like just. It's all right off the. Yeah, there's their condos. It's in a completely different location. Oh, I see. Yeah, it's over by off of Deepo Avenue. It's not even particularly. But it's not a corporation that's... No. Arborset, Tumlin Creek is off 13th Street and 13th, look, 13th or 3th Southwest, 13th Street. And then the other is by UF. I think it's like sweet water. There's a lot of things named that because it's a landmark. I don't think people will associate us with the others. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. But I hear what you're saying. I think the other one is a much more like distinctive thing. It was pulled just for that individual, you know, as opposed to this, which is like a landmark. Kind of like Prairie's Edge or Prairie View or Prairie, you know. Well I'm fine with however you want me to do. I just didn't want to be associated with somebody somebody You know that we may not want to be associated with by using the same name That's all So I think you all got that one right On a Scottish and um can I start with Commissioner Prizier? Commissioner Wheeler. Tapeer Glen. Commissioner Cornell. Forest View. Commissioner Afford. Tapeer Glen. Yeah, that's right. Can you share a chestnut? That's you. Far as you. That was my first choice. So anyway. Is there a view of the forest? Chair, I did ask. Growth management before we came up with these just to confirm that these would be appropriate names for both locations and they confirmed yes. Okay. If there's a forest view, then I'm good with it. And if we accept Tumbling Creek's edge and first views the names for Budget Creek and Scottish and Westpacabilly. Second. We got a motion in a second. Any further discussion? To the motion? If not, we'll go to public comments. On the motion. Hello. I admit I was surprised to see this item on your agenda this morning. And now the cast out of the bag about half the time, I don't even look at your agenda till I show up to the meeting. But I would have thought I would have heard of this since I'm on the Housing Authority Board and Housing Finance Authority and Affordable Housing Advisory. And we've talked about both of these at equity. I've been in four bodies talking about this. I never heard of this renaming idea. I think some broader ideas would have been good because I would have liked to have seen some maybe some aspirational names. We're trying to help people move from a terrible situation to self-sufficiency, a name like Renaissance, or to think of some of the people who have dedicated themselves to serving the homeless. I thought of a Rupa, but if it's a Rupa, it should be a key arenic, because she didn't cling to Freeman that much, or just Bob and a Rupa slice, or Sister Hazel Williams. And ask for the tabers in the year that the honorable staff person cited for taber, everything was segregated. I would like to know the tabers were running a non-segregated motel, they were gonna name it for them. And I have no idea the background for the Hobbes name. So like you said, somebody said, research behind names is important too. So I just wish it had been a broader process. And it sounds like something that just happened over a coffee break in the office. And that's a little coistered. Thank you. Any further comments? Back to the board. Those in favor of the the motion? But by the sign of I, I, those opposed same sign. Motion carries. Thank you. Can I ask a quick question about that? I mean, if it does come back that we find that there was some historical basis that where we might not want the name table in the name, we come back to us about that correct. Oh, that's right. Sorry, we didn't use that. We use the first view. Sorry. All right. No, thank you. Okay, we'll move to our next item. I'm sorry. I was just going to let you know there's actually a force view apartments too so we give up. OK. Well, we'll make sure that they're distinct. Is there a way to make sure they're distinct? Well, I just wanted to make sure in case somebody said, D. Willow, it's one of those two that you knew that there was one of those two. I think it's hard to be a little bit hard to be unique with all of them. Okay, next item is the Public Safety Radio Enhancement Presentation? Hi, good afternoon, Mr. Chair and board members, Harold Diaz, Chief of Fire Rescue. The purpose of today's discussion really is to full, to provide an update of what's taken place with the radio system since the purchase of the radio system for the county. And the second is to bring to your attention some needs that we've identified for the radio system for the immediate future and also the long distance future. To provide some background and contacts, first of all, we became the owners of the Public Safety Radio System, Trump, Trump radio system on December 28th of 2023. And in the audience today, we have some representatives from Motorola, Melissa Cavallo, and John Liptack. We also have from the Sheriff's Office, really our right hand person that's been working with us, Scott Shelton, who's been helping us with the radio system. But the radio system, when we purchased it in 2023, our first step was to evaluate exactly what did we have on our hands, what did we purchase. We wanted to make sure that the system that we had purchased met the needs that we had immediately. And so we began looking at a lot of different things, including tower inspections, the actual ground sheltering that took place for the towers, inspecting those, identifying what needs we had in those tower systems, in the shelters and also in the tower system. We also began meeting monthly with Motorola. Motorola is our radio system provider, and they have been instrumental in assisting us with the radio system. We met also with TriCo, which is a vendor of Motorola that assist us. And also Brad Barber with Federal Engineering has served as our consultant with the radio system for years now. He was actually instrumental in the 2017-2018 radio system needs and assessment plan that we did. And he's one of the ones that identified an option of purchasing the radio system from GRU. So we've been very, very involved with meeting with these partners to assist us in moving forward. We thought right away we would hire a radio systems manager. And remember that was in the initial budget. And we went through two rounds of advertising and interviews to hire a radio systems manager. But we were unsuccessful in doing so. While that was going on, the Sheriff's Office, and at the time Sheriff Gady, approached us in using Scott Shelton and the radio shop at the Sheriff's Office already has to assist us with moving forward. I am not a radio systems expert. It's one of the situations where it fell under the fire rescue umbrella. And so we needed that technical expertise and they've served in that role in a really, in a very good manner for us. During that time we also executed the membership agreements with all nine partners of the radio system. So we were excited about having them on board. We signed five year agreements with all of them. So they would have a fixed rate for five years and we would be able to move forward in having a complete publicly utilized radio system. We also begin the process of moving equipment around. Remember, we had three sites that we co-located with GRU Groupcom. So we needed to move their equipment out of our space and our equipment out of their space. And so that took some months to move forward with and to make happen. The radio system maintenance that we had, the daily operations of the radio system, I mentioned that Sheriff Gainey had really offered Scott Shelton and his team to help us with that. That took on an agreement eventually that took place in September of 2024. They were the experts that work on the radio system on a daily maintenance and daily system anyway. And so for them, for us, they were the subject matter experts locally. We could rely upon. And so Sheriff Scott and under Sheriff Josh Cruz, we met when the election happened and recognized that program would continue with the Sheriff's Office. And I can't speak highly enough about Scott Sheldon and his team. We've been working on the contracts, working on our agreement with Motorola, working on expanding the system, some information you'll see here. And they've been taking care of what takes place daily with the radio system. There's enormous amount of needs that take place on a daily basis, whether it's companies coming in to a lot of a county and having radio signal strength testing to just the daily operations of Making sure that we have reliable connectivity across the county And so they've been an instrumental part and that has been a great partnership that we've had with the sheriff's office In fact, we're no longer looking for a radio systems manager this agreement We transfer those funds over to them so they could hire an extra person and they they, so they, we have a great partnership now between the Sheriff's Office, Anilotua County, to make sure that we have a good operating radio system on a daily basis. Some of the ongoing maintenance they've been in charge of and have moved forward with, is we had a UPS, a battery backup system repair that took place. We also had to replace another one at a different site. Generator maintenance. We now have agreements with all of the facilities now has agreements with generator maintenance for all of these sites. We added an additional firewall system for a backhaul server, so that was very important for us. We're in the process of having a transfer switch replaced. It's a lead time of several months to have that done, but one of our sites has a has a damaged transfer switch. We've also had needs in our air conditioning repair. All of these tower sites, the ground sites, have to be climate controlled because there's computerized equipment in there. so there are a lot of needs that they recognize and they have been recommending to us as enhancements to make sure that the system is functioning properly. We do have additional needs that are coming up. We'll talk about the price of that in just a minute, but we need an updated fire alarm system of all of our sites. Also all of these monitoring systems that we need environmental systems, we need security systems at all the sites. And so these are enhancements that we feel that need to be done that are important for us to maintain the reliability of the system. Now that says five sites there. Keep in mind, the radio system is a six- site radio system. We co-locate three with GRU and there are three separate leases we have for our radio system with other vendors or tower sites. We also have two additional tower sites that are VHF tower sites. County fire still dispatches on a VHF radio system. There's a total total of five sites that we lease eight including the GRU sites. The co-location sites that we had with GRU, as you remember there, we had some issues with that in late January. And from that situation that took place, we began meeting with GRU very closely. A lot of good, close contact, really building a partnership with GroupCom. They've been very reactive to the needs that we have. And they've been a great partner since that January date. They are working on replacing that transfer switch that went out. They're also replacing the UPS battery systems at that location. And they're also installing this power system monitoring device that before the radio site gets power and afterwards. So now they're going to have a gateway kind of control to know that if there is a fluctuation in power, where is that power fluctuation taking place? You'll remember the ATS switch on that particular site really kind of got stuck in between. The site thought it had power, but it didn't have power. And so it was a failure of the ATS switch. They've been much more successful in getting a switch fashioner. We are. And so they're in the middle of replacing that switch now. They've also doubled their efforts in the generator repair and maintenance and load testing of their generator sites. And so our relationship with Groupcom and Mr. Browlarski has been very good since that event. It did identify some needs that we had in the radio system. And to remind everyone it's a 6-site 13 channel trunk simulcast radio system, utilizes motorola. They are our vendor for the G-series based radio system. And this radio system had its last upgrade in 2018. And I bring that up to you to let you know that it's been a while since this radio system has been upgraded. In 2018 went to a P25, basically a digital radio system that was state of the art for 2018. And I've made this correlation as parallel before before our iPhones are changing every year radio systems change frequently the technology improves the enhancements improve the reliability improves over time and so in 2018 that was about a five and a half million dollar Upgrade that GRU invested in and we all paid for Mostly through our partnerships with GRU and with GroupCom. But it's been a while since there's been an upgrade. It's been seven years. In 2020 we signed a multi-year agreement or GroupCom signed a multi-year agreement with GroupCom to provide maintenance on the radio system. It is a full maintenance agreement that takes place with Motorola. It is the best maintenance agreements that they offer that you can have. That expires in 2026. So we will need to renew and new maintenance agreement with them in the next year. And today also, GRU provides all of the network in fiber for the radio system. That's a five year agreement we entered in with them when we made the purchase of the radio system. That was part of the agreement that we made. So the challenges that we recognize in the radio system, the reason why I'm here today is to talk about some of those, our system resilience. Today, we have one site that is the master prime site for our entire radio system. And that brings about some vulnerability in our radio system that is a concern to us. We have some redundancy and backup concerns of county relies solely on the GRU network and the monitoring of that network for the radio system. So we are heavily reliant upon the GRU network system. We know that we have coverage issues. We've talked about that. In fact, it was one of the motivations for us to purchase this radio system that there would be a need to expand the radio system over time. And so that is a challenge that we have. And then what I just mentioned about the idea of your iPhones, these lifecycle upgrades, this continual upgrading and software that takes place really on an annual basis is becoming a challenge for us also. So we have some solutions and some solutions to discuss with you today. One is sort of the baseline of what we need to upgrade to and it's the virtual prime side. And don't think that virtual means it's in the cloud. The virtual prime side is just the new base level prime side that Motorola has today. Our prime side is in its last generation. It cannot accept any more updates after this year. It is capped out and it's technology. And so this new virtual primed site will be the baseline, kind of the next generation primed site, if you will. A second thing to address the redundancy is the geographical redundant primed site. And what this will provide for us is that we will be able to have multiple locations of a prim site. So if we have a power failure or some type of catastrophic outage at the prime site, this other redundant prime site will kick on and will activate. And it will be at a separate, completely separate, secure location so that it keeps us in service so that we don't have complete radio failure. Yes, ma'am. Do you mind if I ask a question, Chair? When you're talking about the redundant prime side, is that including the GRU's network part of it? Is it still completely dependent on GRU's fiber? It is my understanding, yes, Mr. Chair, that it is it's reliant on the power of GRU, the prime side is. The GRU redundant prime side would kick in if power to were to fail at the prime site. As far as fiber goes, I can defer that to Melissa or John Liptac in just a second. Okay. And the cost of that fiber is $175,000 per tower or is that total? Mr. Chair, where are you getting the $175 from? Oh, sorry. $125,000. Are you talking about in a future slide? Probably. I'm sorry. I've read up on this too much. I'm sorry. Let me address that in just a second. There is a per site fee for fiber connectivity that we pay G or U, Groupon. I want to say in total it is $13,000 a month per for all the sites is that we pay. that includes our our sites also that's not bad so the can I ask the commission just to hold our comments until the presentation is over because of Commissioner Cornell doing it remotely so if he wanted to speak I have no way of knowing he wanted to speak unless he say something so I I'm sorry. I just wanted to understand. Yeah, I understand. But we just we talked about it earlier before and it's my fault for not saying that. But anyway, I just want to make that known now. So thank you. All right, Mr. Chair, the the third thing is the multi protocol label switchling. It's an NPLS. It is the priority switching that takes place for the connectivity of the information that gives it provides priority. And really in my discussions with Motorola the discussion has been is that if you're doing all these changes, it gives you the flexibility later on that if you want to go to a different fiber company, those switches now are in place. And so NPLS is important important for us. And finally, I think one of the most important things that we need to consider is the Sirus Central Core. And this provides an in the cloud backup for the Combined Communication Center. Right now, if there was some type of failure at the Combined Communication Center, and I believe, and and they can correct me from wrong whether it's fiber or power. Right now there will be no communication with the consuls, dispatch consuls to the field. And so the serious core central is a backup for the combined communication center. It also provides a backup for the LTE technology that our law enforcement has in their radio systems. Our radio systems are going more and more away from antenna to a tower site. They now have the option to do antenna to basically a cell phone coverage, an LTE cell phone coverage. And so this will provide backup for that. And so a crucial part of the system would be this. So here are the calls that are involved in our discussion. Option one, being the baseline of what our recommendation would be, virtual prime, the geographic redundant prime side, the NPLS, approximately $2.1 million. What's not in that option one and should be is the tower site enhancements. What I discussed earlier about the alarm systems and the maintenance needs, that's an additional $125,000. That needs to be in there for our tire sites. Option two adds the serious central core, but it adds in a way to where you're paying a year one cost. You pay them annually for that service. And so it would be the year one cost and then years two through five and annual basis of $175,000. That total cost between the Central Core and the other Motorola items is about $3.5 million. Option 3 is a package that Motorola basically is selling, where we would have the Syris Central Core for five years, all at $3.1 million. And so after that year five, there would be a recurring cost for the connectivity of the Syris Central Core In the future, there are more things that we will need. Cybersecurity for the astro system. We all know that cyber security is becoming more and more important each and every year. We need to make sure that our radio system, we can keep it from being hacked by a third-party group. We also have to renew our agreement with Motorola when it comes to the maintenance agreement. Right now we pay about $1.3 million per year. That will go up significantly. I would imagine that agreement will be close to 10 years old when we renew it. The dispatch consults, those have to be replaced from time to time. And so that will be something that will be coming up in 2029 and then the tower expansion. And the reason why that's last and we're kind of holding off on the idea of tower expansion is this LTE capability. Does the LTE capability bridge the gap when having to expand with so many tower sites? And we still are uncertain on that. And so we'd like a little bit more time to evaluate that and look at that. And so that's why we've pushed that off till 2030. The question that I have for y'all is really asking some direction on what are some of your thoughts on moving forward with these options one two or three, but also in how do we pay for it? And what are your thoughts on that? And here's some just some ideas I came up. Assistant County Manager, Crosby and I, had some discussions about this on potential ways to pay for these things, the infrastructure, serve tax, resiliency grants, which do take some time to get, to apply for and to be awarded if you're successful, increases in the MS-2U or the Fire Special Assessment, one-time user assessment charge where we lay with this charge to all of the users, or we just simply bond or borrow the money. So that is the end of my presentation. Okay, Commissioner Prisya. Has some comments? I mean, I'm interested to hear what Commissioner Alfred's questions are because she's, you know, sort of has this background to your use, had these conversations in the past. But I guess my quick back of the envelope math. OK, first of all, I guess I'm a little surprised by the aging radio conversation happening right now, because I feel like when we had the conversation about buying all of the radio systems, that was one of the questions we asked, was are we buying something that we're going to have to quickly replace? Are we buying a bunch of age infrastructure that's all just like we could just buy all this new and like, and now I feel like that's happening, like we're being told this is all really old equipment. So that feels a little frustrating for me because I feel like when we were talking about buying all this, we sort of asked that question and I feel like we got a different answer than we're getting now. And maybe I'm wrong about that, but I do feel like that was one of the things that I put forward is like, make sure we're not buying a bunch out of data equipment that we're going to have to replace really quickly and now here we are. So that's one piece I just want to that I'm trying to understand like why where that comes into play in terms of What we paid for the system versus what we're having to replace and are those things the same or are they different and it's just sort of I would so I would like an answer on on that. That's one. The second is, it looks like we're only saving about $343,000 by doing this five-year package versus the one-time expense. And so I guess I'm interested to understand in terms of technology changes in terms of transitions to different options. Is it really worth it for us to save $343,000 to lock us into five years if maybe there are other changes that we need to make in the future. And then something that I wanted to go back to and it's a GRU question. So I'll let you answer those and then I'll ask the GRU questions. It's pretty separate from that. Sure. Mr. Chair, don't we answer the questions now? Sure, go ahead. So on the aging equipment, in the 2018 study that we did, the cost in 2018 to build a new system identical to what we have today was going to be, I think it was over $16 million was the quote that we were giving. The hardware is all fine. The antennas, the wiring, the cabling, all that stuff is part of that purchase. The software does change. And really that's what a lot of this is, is software. And this software, other than the platform of the virtual prime side, this software are all enhancements that we currently do not have in the radio system. Their additional redundancy and resiliency is for protective measures. And while this is something that we thought about doing at some point in the radio system, it really all kind of got magnified on January 26th, right, when we lost the radio system. And that's when meeting with the Sheriff's Office and some of the other users, it was, we need to do something now. We can't afford to have a radio system failure. And so that's, I don't know if that answers your question, Commissioner Prisya or not. I do think that there's a trade-off. If we were to build a new radio system in 2023, I think the $16 or $17 million would have been on the very low end of what we would have had to pay to build an identical radio system. What was your second question? $143,000 different from the five-year contract in in a one year. Yes, that is The math that I came up with was very similar to that I have well My math is different. I have two point seven million dollars 175 for four years of seven hundred thousand dollars 3.5 you're right 3.5 million versus 3.107. That's the difference I guess I'll just say if you don't mind putting the, I don't know if you're asking us about the funding things, but I will say the infrastructure service is spoken for. We've already allocated 70% of it roads and 30% of it to housing, so I don't really think that that's a space we have funding to be able to use, so I'm not sure why that's on the list. Can you put the other ones back up there? When it comes to the, I guess when it comes to general assessment, I mean, I get it, like we all use this radio system right because it's to protect all of us. So it makes some sense to recoup some of those costs by everybody that's, you know, benefiting from it, paying into that system and for the users themselves to pay into the system to make sure it's robust as well. So those two make sense to me. I guess I unders sort of understand the law enforcement system is just to you, but they're not the only place that we use this neither as fire rescue. So maybe there's a way to split it amongst those so that people realize that this is a cost that's spread over every part of our public safety system. And of course grants please. Apply for as many grants as we can, although I'm thinking those may be going away in the near term. So I don't know if there's some out there that you've already identified that are ready to go for this or not, but that's a question that I have. Again, I don't think the infrastructure service is really on the table, so I'm not sure why that's up there, but that's also a question. Thank you. And my questions were similar to Commissioner Prisius. I guess in terms of my thoughts, grants obviously, if we can get money, we should get money, but I kind of feel like the The increase to the fire special assessment as well as the one-time user assessment charge could be combined Like we could figure out and I assume if you do a user assessment you're going to figure out a way to do that equitably based on I don't know radio use or How would y'all divide that if you were to do that. Mr. Chair, first of all we are in a middle of a five-year agreement with all of our partners. Right. And so I would have to be able to get them to the table to negotiate this change. And I'm hesitant to talk about radio usage and the number of portal radios because that is the big argument that we all had with you. That's why I was curious how you divide that. I'm not really sure how we would level levio one-time assessment to pay for this and I don't know that they I I don't have any assurance that they would agree to it I have presented this information to staff of all the partners and so it would be up to their respective boards to make those decisions And if we if we bonded it could we then pay for that in the next five-year or the next five year that we could roll it into those costs, which kind of makes sense also to me. It's charging the user, but it's just charging them in the future not now, which probably makes the most sense for that part of it in terms of the one-time assessment charge is putting it into the next five-year agreement. But back to GRIU, and I'm concerned about the, we're working on redundancy, but we don't have redundancy in fiber. That's my understanding. I'm going to defer. Okay. So this is true. So regarding your question earlier and the written. Oh, yes. Good afternoon, Melissa Cavallo with Motorola Solutions. To answer your question that you presented earlier regarding the Reliancy of the GRU Network, that is still the case with the resiliency options that Chief has shared with you today. However, the MPLS piece that we're including, as he mentioned, is going to start to detach from the GRU Reliancy, and we are able to control priority of the Astro Radio System using the Motorola MPLS. So that's part of the package that was presented, which will continue to go down that path without having to do all of that today because as Chief mentioned I think there's like a five-year contract with a few years still left within that contract that we can continue to move into that direction. So that's like using something like a Starlink system as backup? That's correct. Okay. And so I feel better about that because I was wondering if we should be offering up fiber connections to any of the other folks in the county yet given my own use of a third-party fiber system, there's still outages involved. And so having something secondary seems robust seems really important. Thank you for answering that question that makes a lot more sense to me. That's I would tend to go with the most robust. I don't know what you're what you're leaning towards chief but personally I feel like we need to go with the most robust solution. But I am just made that the amount saved with a five year commitment is as low as it is. But I do like that MLS thing. That sounds like a good idea. I did have one other question. It goes all the way back to the beginning of your presentation, but you talked about GRU and your relationship being better and then building some more resiliency and redundancy into their way and their respond in these tower sites. One thing that I was made to understand during the time in which everything went down was that these sites actually sit under IT, do you, which I believe, if I'm mistaken, someone can correct me, but, and so I'm wondering about their on-call policies because typically IT departments aren't like on-call 24-7, like the utility side of a utility. So if I just wanted to understand how that plays into the ability to respond, you know, if a generator goes down or if a switch breaks, like, who's responding on the weekends or late nights? Oh, it's got a show in English, ASL. I have phone numbers for all of their, well, not for all of, but for three of their network admin guys. And like when it happened that Sunday afternoon, they weren't on call per se, but I was able to get a hold of two of them when they were able to get out there within an hour. What took so long to get it back up was not only just getting power back, but also the prime site and the master site work on what it's called GPS. So those GPS have to locate again, and that took like 40 minutes, et cetera. So now we've plugged them into a different power source via UPS, and we're getting rid of some of that 40 minutes. It's more like five minutes now for that to come back up. But I am able to get a hold of them pretty quick. They've given me their phone numbers and so and I've got a pretty good working relationship with those guys over the years. These transfer switches seem to be a big issue and a lot of aging infrastructure. I don't know a whole lot about the way electricity works but it keeps happening. It's happening in buildings that are owned by local governments a lot as well where the transfer switch breaks and then it's like months before they can fix it, the library system, I'm thinking of one. So I'm wondering, are these transfers which is something that we should just change out wholesale and or have backups of so that we're not in this situation in the future? And is that part of this budget? I'm probably should go when I have one for. It is not part of this budget, but it is something certainly to consider. Yes. Thank you. And then Mr. Chair, the only thing I want to remind you of is the law enforcing MSTU and the fire special, the special assessment for fire are in geographical regions, not everyone pays into the fire assessment, not everyone pays into MST law. And so just things to keep in mind. Okay. Commissioner Cornell, do you have any comments? I do, Mr. Chair. Thank you. So I guess I'll just start with a little bit of history from my perspective at least, because this has been something that I've been dealing with as a commission for 10 years and I am brought back to a meeting that I'll never forget it was a joint meeting with the city or city and Todd Chase brought this up it might have been in 16 about just the condition of the system shortly thereafter Jerry you stepped up in 2018 and upgraded the system spent spent five and a half million dollars, and that then became, as you all know, part of the issue with us acquiring the system. I think we got through all of that, and I really want to thank publicly GRU, their staff, their leadership for, you know, we had an event on January 26th, but it's not so much the event that you have. It's how you handle it afterwards. And I understand that everyone seems to really be on the same page to stress the importance of not just public safety and the radio system, but the systems resilience. And I feel like we as county commissioners kind of took this on what we did county-wide with the understanding to the users that we were going to be making these investments that needed to be made and Ultimately, you know over the next decade or two it was result in cost savings And that does involve kind of where we are today. So I agree with Commissioner Alfred in that. If we're gonna do this, we probably should do either option two or three. I like very much the cell phone coverage on the serious central core and kind of the movement of where that's going. Commissioner Prisya asked a question though, the second part of her question that I just want to clarify. I thought I heard her say that she wasn't in favor of five years because there could be system upgrades that we would pay for in the years 2, 3, 4, and 5. And that's a question. Is that correct? Or is this simply just we're getting a discount by paying in advance? It's a question for chief. Uh, Mr. Chair, the the serious central core is a discount because we're buying it all at one time and year one instead of stringing it out over five years. But to her point, if there were technology improvements in years two through five, would we get those upgrades or would those be lost because we paid in advance? You would still be entitled to this? I think that was Anna's point. Anna was at your point? Yeah. It's a question, answer. Well to answer your question there, you would still get the upgrades that would come out within the Sierra's Central Core package even though you've paid for it upfront. You would still take advantage of this. Okay, just strictly just that you're getting a discount for paying upfront, but you're getting all the upgrades. So if that's the case, I don't see us doing one year and then not doing years two through five. So I would kind of defer to option three. So here's a question, chief. Are there any reserves available or are the options that you presented the only options? There are some reserves available. It would, if my memory serves me correct, there's about 1.4, 1.5 million dollars in reserves between the radio system and in our E911. And the E-911 funding would qualify to be able to spend towards portions, parts of this radio system that we could allocate. Okay, so I am in favor, obviously, of resiliency grants. I am in favor of bonding the rest or some combination of that in one time charges. I do though want to bring up this infrastructure sales tax. And I know Commissioner Prisya mentioned that's spoken for, but I also know that on the housing piece, there's a pretty big number that we just haven't spent. And I would not be opposed to spending a portion of that to make up the difference so that we could deploy this money into the public who is paid for it largely through visitors, 30% through visitors. I think it makes perfect sense. My back of the envelope calculation is that we have about 10 million in the housing bucket and I don't know if that's the right number. Does anybody know that number? No. That's a question. 5.6 million a year. So we'll get that. So we'll get the number, I guess, eventually. Commissioner Prisya? So according to staff, we get about 5.6 million dollars. I'm sure that you and exact number exact number, Ken, but you would be somewhere in the neighborhood at this stage probably of about $12 million that we've amassed in that haven't spent. But much like the Lane Conservation Program or the Agricultural Conservation Program, it takes a while to stand up a new program and to get developers and people on board to begin to apply and understand the criteria. And right now we're in a position where I think even our staff are still kind of working on those criteria. So I feel like it would really be a injustice to the voters who voted for this knowing that we had committed to affordable housing. And workforce housing is a part of what we were trying to do. And we voted to commit 30% of it to affordable housing. That's what that was our our stance and 70% of it to roads and if the housing is on the table, then roads should be on the table too. You know, we could take half from each or something like that, but I really don't think that we should be taking money out of a bucket that we've already committed to something that we're in dire straits for right now. I mean, in fact, we just had a conversation yesterday with the Sea of Gainesville, and where we don't have enough even permanent supportive housing, we have not enough housing to go around period. And so I think, really, it's only $56 million in 10 years, which is a drop in the bucket for housing development, as you know. And so I really feel really strongly that we committed to the voters who are gonna do that. We passed it based on having those conversations in the community and I would feel really uncomfortable going back on that now. Mr. Chair. Commissioner Wheeler. Yeah, whenever I can you can get to me. Go ahead. Okay. I have two questions for you. At the beginning we're talking about the partnership that we had with everybody. Where is this going to be housed? Is it going to be housed with the Sherrup's department? Is it going to be housed at our, with us at the Armory? The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the coordination of all this. Where is that going to be? Well, fire rescue is coordinating all of it. Okay, it's going to be out of, when you all move out to the armory. Who's that? Uh, are you, Mr. Okay, it's going to be out of, when you all move out to the armory. Who's that? Uh, are you, uh, is Sherry asking about the equipment itself or just the overseeing of the whole program. So I'm, I'm overseeing the, the entire program with, uh, Tommy Crosby, obviously helping with the financial side of all of this. But the way that we split up with the Sheriff's Office is this, the Sheriff's Office takes care of all the daily operations of the radio system. We're managing the contracts, we're managing our agreements with Motorola, we're managing these types of enhancements and expansions of the system. Okay, so I still in your hands. And how does this, all of these options right here take time and I didn't know how quickly you needed these funds. You know if this needs to be expedited it seems to me that you know the I know that bonds wouldn't be up there if Tommy Crosby didn't feel confident that that would be a good option if we chose that. Yeah Mr. Chair one of the reasons why you see the list that you have is and some of the things included they wouldn't only be included in my presentation of some of the items that we're asking for funding options is because of the immediacy. We need to do something with the radio system. We feel as though it's a priority, it needs to be happened quickly. We would like to get in front of the October, fiscal year of other counties and municipalities who will also be buying virtual prime sites and jeera-dundant prime sites. We would like to get in front of them to be able to get this done. If we were to say yes and find funding today, we're still looking at six to eight months before this is fully operational. Okay. I would support bonding if Tommy Crosby's behind this, you know, in terms of that, I would say that, of course, continuing to look for grants, you know, in anything that would support that. But I feel like that we need to do whatever is the most expedient to make sure that you get what you need. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Sure. Are you in favor of us then figuring out how we're reimbursed by the users for that bond? Like are you in favor of us working with all the users in their future contracts to help supplement the cost of that? I mean, it may not be the full cost of it, but at least them in the future five year contracts negotiating that some aspect of that cost is embedded in their new contracts. Absolutely. On-go anything that to make this more equitable across the board for whoever is using, absolutely. But I'm also looking at what might be coming down from our state. If indeed we don't pay, if we don't have taxes money coming in to support the system and we have to do that ourselves by raising all of these things to a point where it's really hard for the public to support. That's on saying. That's it. That makes sense. Yeah. Chief Thies, I guess the question I'm having with this, I sort of like number three, the third option, but I guess my problem is in the five year package, and my understanding that any upgrades are available during that period of time, and after the five year period, what happens? That's just the, so the serial central core, you pay on an annual basis. You pay for the, obviously the installation and the equipment, and then it's an annual subscription that you pay for that serialriessential Court. That's the 175,000 now. That's the 175. But they're willing to do a five-year agreement all in instead of paying for the equipment and then paying for it over time. These subscription over time. Okay, now you stated earlier in your presentation that the last time the upgrade was seven years ago, is that correct? The last year a system upgrade was done was seven years ago in 2018? Yes, sir. So what is the lifespan of this one? If we went to this, what would be the lifespan there? I'm just curious because if we're going to bond it, I want to know what we're bonding and how long and all of that stuff to pay for this. I just, and then if it's seven years later, we got to do it again. I mean, that's, you know, things get old in seven years from understanding. So I'm just curious, that's all. So I'll try and get an answer that. Okay. All right right. Good afternoon So to answer your question regarding this particular package we're speaking about yes This is an enhancement adding redundancy and resiliency to the system So the astral radio system is still a very robust radio system There's still a lot of quality to this system this package is adding that redundancy An added layer of backup. So this geo redundant prime site we spoke about earlier is gonna be at another location. So if we had a system outage similar to what we had in January, you now have a backup site that would immediately pick up. So you would even notice that the system was down, it would immediately fail over to that other location. We have a neighboring county that's using the same technology and they actually had the same system outage occur and they have this same technology. They have a virtual prime, geo prime with the serial central core cloud backup. And their system went down during the hurricane and they didn't even notice that they were on backup because that's how seamless this transition is. So this package was designed based on identifying where we could add resiliency and redundancy to the system, not necessarily updating, enhancing, upgrading the system. Now I will add, this is definitely an enhancement, an upgrade, but not an upgrade similar to what was done in 2018. That was a P25 different type of update to the overall radio system. Does that answer your question? Yeah, it answered to some degree, but I'm just a little voice in the back of my head is just saying that I know eventually something is going to come back where we have to pay more money. That's all. That's just that little voice back there that's telling me that. But I understand what you're saying though. But if we're talking about how we're going to pay for this and we're talking about bonding, and then I'm definitely against using infrastructure, search acts, period. That's how I'm not going to support any of that. Housing or roads. I'm not going to support that at all. So bonding would be one. And the one time user assessment chart, I'm okay with that. And going after federal grants. But I mean, it's just, you know, I hear what Commissioner Wheeler is saying too, about, you know, taxpayers. I mean, you know, that's a lot to put on them. We don't know what the future looks like. With this current administration, federal administration, we don't know if there's going to be grants. We don't know anything at this point right now. The economy is not doing well because of the start markets. We all know that. So I'm just kind of little leery here. I understand that you need this, but I'm just worried about what happens in seven years or eight years later. And then we're back again doing all this again, making more upgrades and and all of that stuff is going to cost more money. Things aren't getting cheaper. So it goes up. So those are the concerns. But if it's needed, I'm with it. I don't mind bonding, but I just wanted to know the lifespan of it. That's all. And I don't think I got a clear understanding of that yet. But it's needed, it's needed. But I mean, it's just to the point, when do we come to a point to say, wait, you know, it's needed, it's needed, but I mean it's just to the point, when do we come to a point to say wait, the taxpayers can't afford this, and so what do we do? We keep a system that's inferior for a period of years? I'm just saying because we don't have the finding, I mean it's a tough place to be right now, I mean to make a decision, you know, not knowing the future is what I'm seeing. It is, Mr. Chair, I wish I had words that would help suit that a bit. The radio system is an expensive piece of equipment to have. We experienced that when GRU owned the radio system. We have made some efficiencies in the affordability of the radio system and its daily operations. I believe that we are doing better in maintaining the radio system, the way that we currently have it set up. Whether we were to do this, or if GRU still owned the system, they were to do it and pass along this cost to us, we would be right back to where we were right after 2018 with a very high annual payment that we make to them, all of a sudden that we didn't budget for or know about. And so at least in this we have some control over what's going on at the cost. And remember what led up to the 2018 enhancement was our extreme dissatisfaction with the fact that they had not upgraded in years. They had not upgraded in years because it was expensive to upgrade. And so I don't have a shoring words for you. The radio system is very expensive to keep up to date. Commissioner Cornell, do you have any comments before I go to the conference? I do, Joe. Thank you. Yeah, so I hear my colleagues loud and clear on the infrastructure option. Perhaps we could to facilitate getting this done quickly, however, do what we did with West End. Perhaps we could explore loaning money to ourselves within the infrastructure sales act, like we did with West End on the act of wreck and the conservation buckets. But where I am and what I would support is an option three with a combination of reserves, bonding, one-time user charges and resilient grants. Thanks, Chuck. Okay. Commissioner Prisya? I can definitely support the use of reserves, the use of bonds, and the use of resiliency grants. Again, I don't support the inter loan because I don't. I just don't. I don't support touching that bucket for a bucket we didn't commit to. It was different to change it from parks to conservation lands because those are both within the half penny that was committed. But I do support the bonds of resiliency grants. I do support the third option. I would like to hear the answer to his question about the timeline, about what we think this, how long we think this technology, the parts that are hardware and software with our lifespan is how often they're being updated and what we think the reality is of how often these sorts of things are going to come and does this solve the issue of our 2018 radio stuff like that that isn't clear to me I don't understand the technology will not to understand you were talking about the aging infrastructure and then we're talking about software and so you know I'm having trouble are we shifting to a more virtual option where we no longer need the hardware and this is As technology changes this is going to allow us to make that transformation seamlessly. Someone could help explain that to me. That would be helpful. And then, the commission I offered. Sorry, I jumped the gun. No, no, that's OK. You go ahead and answer that, and then I'll ask my question. It's just cyber security related. So typically hardware components, and I'm generalizing at this point, because there's a lot of equipment that's existing with the radio system today. And this enhancement is not replacing all of those hardware components. So without getting into every repeater, every site, every physical component, it's very difficult to give you a timeline. But typically our hardware components are 8 to 10 year life cycle, which you're kind of seeing from our 2018 upgrade to today. That's typically where we fall. Motorola has done a great job with getting in front of that and actually advising customers early on of equipment that we see will be obsolete at some point in the future. So Chief and I had some great conversations early last year regarding virtual prime, being a next step in our path of what we should get in front of. The January events kind of expedited that. So we looked at that and said now is the opportunity to not only do virtual prime, but add that geo redundancy into the mix as well. So from a hardware component perspective, 8 to 10 years is typically the life cycle we see on those kind of pieces. One thing that was asked was about the Sierra Central Core, that is a cloud-based solution. So buying five years upfront, that is why you're going to get all of the updates and upgrades that may come with that because it's cloud-based. It's all virtually pushed out. So as long as there's an annual subscription in place, the serial central core will continue with the system. So option three is presented as a five-year total serial central package. So at year six we would talk about that renewal with that look like. It could be a multi-year renewal again, or it could be an annual subscription-based renewal. So there's no obsolescence with serial central core. You'll just continue to get whatever is improved and advanced virtually through that annual subscription. My questions have to do at this point. I don't feel comfortable talking about the details of cybersecurity, but I wanted to assure the public that we do have cybersecurity on the system. Something about the way it was worded earlier might make people feel concerned about that. But is it all of your software? Can you talk about your software and cybersecurity a little bit? Is there a component to that? So there is actually Motorola provides MDR, is Astro monitoring services for cybersecurity. They're not included in this package but it's something that we've talked to chief about adding to the Astro infrastructure. I do believe in Scott could probably answer this we do have cybersecurity in place on the network side through GRU. So the system is protected but forspecific monitoring, that's MDR, which we've talked about as kind of a future placeholder. Okay. I mostly just want to assure the public that we do have cybersecurity on the system, and it's fairly robust. It's just that we, so what we're talking about adding would be a cybersecurity part for the redundant part of the system. For the radio system, yes. Yes, correct. Thank you. I have one more. One last question. I guess on the bonding side of things, I mean, so we have about 1.4 you said in reserve, so that could, that cuts this price tag almost in half, essentially, for the bonding. When we're bonding, I don't know what it's talking about but on the bonding, she says a 10-year lifespan, I'm assuming we wouldn't need to bond a million and a half dollars for 10 years. That seems like it would be a pretty short bond period. So it would be well within your concern about sort of, you know, are we still paying for this and then having to do upgrades? I mean, it sounds like we'd be well within that round but I guess'm just, I guess, I think you're here. I'll me question and he's not here. I'll have a question. Yeah. Mr. Chair, we're not asking for a motion today. I think I've got the temperature of the board, which is what I was after. There are a couple of people in the audience. I don't know if they wanted to say anything. I know you're not making a motion, but the chief of UPD is here and also the interim chief of Gainesville Fire Rescue. If you would allow them an opportunity to say a few words, I didn't know if that would be appropriate or not. Sure, yes, we will. 30 speed ones five. Good afternoon, commission. My name is Bart Noles. I'm the Chief of Police for the University of Florida. So thank you for allowing us the opportunity to speak before you today. I really don't have a lot of real detailed content to share with you, other than probably what you already know as far as the importance of this system and what it means to us. When this system went down a few months back, it impacted the University of Florida very significantly from the perception of, you know, we had officers out there. We responded all of our medical calls for service. Of course, any sort of crisis types scenarios where we have crisis intervention teams that are able to respond and deal with particular issues on campus. And when that system goes down, it really does, you know, completely shut us down to a lot of, you know, a pretty significant degree. So I just wanted to share with you very briefly that it's important to us. I completely respect the questions that have been asked here today. It's very clear that this is a big ticket item. And as I sat in the back of the room, the thing that kept resonating in my head was this man. If any one of our family members were in peril as a result of this system, I'm not having this redundancy built in and it, you know, it cost a life, you know, what's what's the measurable to that, right? And I don't think that, you know, I think we all agree, you know, there's there's we we understand that but but that's what was going through my head and at the end of the day, I would just ask that it's a very tough obviously financial pill to swallow just please take that seriously as I know you will and you know keep us in mind as it relates to that ability for us to provide the service not only for us for the you know students faculty staff at the university but also countywide again I know you know that and take that all into consideration so again appreciate your time today and thank you so much much for hearing Chief Theos in this presentation. So thank you. Mr. Chair, commissioners, Sean Hillhouse, Center and Fire Chief for the City of Gainesville. I want to thank you for listening to the presentation today. I'd like to thank you for the County Commission's support and for Chief Theos' support making sure that you're communicated with all the public safety agencies on the radio system and in light of the failure that happened. If I could leave you just with one thought, it's going to be on urgency. Our Chief Theos talk about kind of staying ahead of what's going to, going on, to get ahead of other municipalities or counties that may need these similar systems, but I'll just remind you that on any given Sunday or Saturday, without redundancy, we can have another failure. So behalf of the city manager, myself, Chief Moia, who's on his way here now, we would just urge that whichever direction that you do take, whatever funding source that we go with, that it be one that can be expedited so that we can make sure that the system remain redundant. Thank you. Thank you. I conclude my presentation. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Chief Diaz. Mr. Chair. Yes. You had asked for a number that I said I would get to you. Not that it necessarily makes a difference based on the board's comments. But since I said I would get you that number, the number for the Sirtax funds is currently in this budget listed as 11,591,669. The total funds that are allocated to housing in this budget is $31,656,052. Of course, a lot of that is specifically dedicated already to things like the Sunrise Inn, the Alachua County apartment, The projects we already have, like the construction monies and things like that. So, but the Sirtax bucket is the 11.5, almost 11.6. Okay, thank you. All right, moving to our next item is the presentation for Fire rescue community health plan. All right. Thank you. Thanks for sharing. Board members. Yeah. Harold Diaz, a lot of kind of fire rescue. One to spend a few minutes talking about the community health plan. In January, you all made a motion, wanting us to bring back the idea of community health worker. And what would be our concepts of how we would absorb that within fire rescue and perhaps a new approach of community health worker than what's been experienced in the past through community support services. And so I want to go back just a little bit and talk about what our current program is. We launched our mobile integrated health team in November of 2024. We have seven staff members that are involved in that team, and they are all with us today. They've been patiently here listening to a lot of other things, and now it's their time to shine and share some of the work that they have done. We've been really excited about this mobile integrated health team. They've done a fantastic job. All of our equipment is in. You saw the mobile health lab that we have. We've also received a couple of the vehicles that they'll be using to go out and visit the public. And so to this point, it's been a very successful program. To date, we've had over 100 encounters with the public resulting in participants being connected to various resources. And I wanted to turn over just to Captain Benwar for just a second so that she could share an experience that took place with one of the participants that we were involved with. Hello, thank you, Mr. Chair. Jody Benwar, Captain Mobile Integrated Health, they see a far. One of the participants, actually two participants, some of our first ones that we came in contact with back when we had not had our whole team come on yet. And we found them to be in some really unstable conditions. They were relying on electricity coming from an extension cord from the neighbor's house. They only had a small amount of food stamps to live on a month. And our team engaged and started helping them to get food from other resources in the county and bringing them. And due to health limitations, these people could not work, and that ultimately led to them losing their home. This team made some amazing things happen. They got them into stable housing. That's where they are now. These two participants did not spend a night without a bed, a warm place, a safe place at all before they went to stable housing. And that's all because of this team right here. They're now close to where they can get help from their medical providers. And we are still working on connecting them with more resources to help them have an even improved life and keep working towards that goal of being able to support themselves. But this team has a talent for bringing community partners together and helping to make great things happen. There's been some miracles this team has brought along and I am so happy and blessed to be working with them. So thank you. And as you can see for the MIH program it's a holistic team right they provide a lot of services to the public to those individuals who need that assistance. Well after January 28th commission meeting when we had the discussion about community health worker, we had some discussion, staff level discussion, about how we would make that happen. How could we integrate community health workers in with our mobile integrated health team? And basically, how would now fire rescue have basically a community health section within our division? And so we met with community support services, had several meetings with Cherisse and discussing how that would play out. Well at the same time we're also receiving some funding for Core, the coordinated opioid recovery program, also a medication assisted treatment services. so we have several different things coming at us at one time. And we began to have the discussion, well, we're going to build a community health team within the fire rescue section. How do we do it right the first time? How do we build a program that can provide all these different services? And how can we build a program that brings all of these partners together. So we know that that's extremely important to y'all. How can we provide this service to the community throughout 963 square miles? And in doing so, how do we partner with Gainesville? How do we partner with the hospitals? All these different service care providers. One of our employees, Bill Nies, worked previously for a company, the Camden Coalition of Healthcare Providers out of Camden, New Jersey. And so he had some conversations with us about, you know this has been done before. Camden has done this. The exact what we're talking about, they have provided these services in their community and have been very, very successful doing so to the point to where now They all for consulting services across United States and so I want you I want to show you a video of About us video from the Camden coalition give you an idea of what this company does I can chemical issue is nonprofit based in Canada, New Jersey. And all of our work is really focused on supporting individuals with complex health and social needs. We do that through direct clinical work. We do that through systems of work and we do that through policy and advocacy work. We do a statewide advocacy in addition to training, teaching, consulting. The chemical wishes started out its work in the community. It was care management work with people with the most complex needs. So they have physical health needs, mental health needs, many in recovery. Early on we we thought it was simply if we navigate individuals to primary care. Probably so. There was not necessarily thinking around what are the other systems that touch people that can make this complicated or a little hard to do. I'm coming in and I have all this nurse knowledge I'm fresh,'m writing. I'm going to tell you exactly what the planet care is going to be, what's going to help you. And I remember going into that first home visit and it was like, like, well, this is completely different. This is more about understanding what's on with the individuals and getting at the root causes of what's causing the complexness. The coalition just impacts so many people. They think about this family. They talk about the importance of our work and how it's changed their lives. This is Brian. Brian, this is Miguel. Here. so many people. They think about this family. They talk about the importance of our work and how it's changed their lives. This is Brian. Brian, this is Miguel. He is one of our new community health workers. Through with the issue of the side, you know what I mean? And if it wasn't for him, and the way he spoke to me, I wouldn't even be here. More and more of the stuff that we're doing has been embraced and become part of the status quo. I think that's our greatest accomplishment. Eventually, we actually created a national center to really take what we learned and what others were learning around the country and bring it to other people who are trying to do this work. I feel like what makes the coalition different and so many levels is that we incorporate our communities' voices. When you have better goals, you have a better opportunity in that group, can you code this and ask, fulfill the my life? The work started with patients with disabilities and it's still driven by that. I just need to be able to do that. Thank you. Very nice. And so you can see there, and if you notice Bill Nies was in a couple of those pictures in there. With his experience and with the Camden Coalition, what I'm asking, I'm not asking for approval. Again, I want to get a gauge of where y'all are with us moving forward. We would like to engage the Camden Coalition as a consulting service to us. My focus is, is that if we're going to build a program within Fire Rescue Community Health, we would like to build it correctly the first time. As I mentioned earlier, we have funding coming from different sources and I feel some pressure that we're being pulled in different directions with this funding. So I want to make sure that a company that has this experience before that has successfully done this, if they can come in and help us. Since we've already had a couple of meetings with them, they are willing to get an idea of the scope of work that we're looking for as the programmatic organization of our community health team. How do we set up these structures, these policies, these protocols, medical protocols, are involved with the MAT program? What are the best practice for this complex community health program? How do we get hospitals to engage with us, the data sharing, what were their experiences and having that? We do have a great relationship with our hospitals, but again, I want to build this right the first time. And secondarily, I think one of the most important things is that we need to have our staff trained by experts who have done this before. Not only the staff that we have today, but the staff that we're going to bring on board. There will be a budget issue after we meet with them and have discussions with them about what they anticipate our needs being that we would be adding community health workers to our organization, to our department. That would be a budget issue that will be in FY26. And so instead of me coming to you and saying, I need four people or five people for community health workers, I wanted to engage in them first so they can make recommendations to us instead of it coming from from from me who's a fire op sky so I Think it's important that we do it. So I want to hear from you all of what your thoughts are on this process Commissioner Prisya Commissioner Alfred and Wheeler And I have a post to know with your name on it up here on it up here. I love this idea. I love the idea of bringing in expertise and sort of providing you the backbone and support that your team who's already on the ground doing it and you need to be able to really take a comprehensive sort of public health approach to this idea. So thank you. And I did some homework on the Camden Coalition in addition to what you shared today. And they seem like the right folks. They seem like the kind of people who really get it, and are doing the work, the way that it needs to be done with community, with all the stakeholders and the partners. So I'm excited about that. I think that I will say there's a couple of things that I hope get integrated into this process. and that is one, we have a lot of groups that are kind of working in these arenas that are very similar but different, right? Like you all were doing opioids and we have the mobile health clinic and then we have the new maternal health effort that's going on and we have lots of people that are kind of trying to solve this complex issue of how do we Address the social determinants of health in a way that lifts people up and gives them a safety harness instead of a safety net Right, like everyone's kind of trying to have that same conversation. So I hope we involve all those people The resource center conversation that we're getting ready to have I hope that the Camden Coalition can tune into that and we can think about how that that integrates with this conversation because I think the community health workers being out in the community and you all being on the road in the community can really tap into those resource centers as places and spaces that can connect with people and build trust. And then last but not least it's the resource directory conversation that we've been having and that is that we were kind of leaning, we were leaning on the 2-1-1 thing and we were then we were leaning on Find Help. Neither of them seems to be working perfectly and then there was the old fashion like each organization creating their own little paper or resource guide and having their own miracle workers that know people who know people and I think that there's a real interest in our community of trying to all move in one direction to build that robust resource directory. And that's kept up. And so I hope that can be a part of this dialogue too. How does this program help everyone be able to get into that network of resources that exist and work together collaboratively to best deploy those resources? But with that, I fully support this idea. I'm excited about it. And I only have one question in that is, I really hope we have a plan for the existing community health workers that we've deployed because I feel a real responsibility to them. We put together this program based on the recommendation of our health care advisory board. And we've employed people who spend a lot of time getting training and certification as community health workers and we place them out in the community. And some of them, I mean we don't have very many, but the ones that we do have are doing really, really amazing work on the ground. And so I'm interested to see that we are able to maybe continue working with them and supporting their positions or something until we get this program figured out and determine if they're the right fit for Transitioning into our program as community health workers or perhaps the organizations that they're working with are able to pick up The tab for their paycheck. So that's a question slash comment that I hope we can figure out between now and September when when their funding ends. Thank you Okay Alfred and then commissioner Wheeler Thank you Everything Commissioner Commissioner Alfred and Dean Commissioner Wheeler. Thank you. Everything Commissioner Prisya said I agree with and no need to reinvent the wheel. This does look like a really great organization. My only thing is is that you know we're a unique community and so I am a big fan of benchmarking but I'm also like to see us do what works best for us so I'm sure and I have great faith that you guys will put that together to make it work. Okay, thank you. Okay. Just the same thing that we've said and I support what you're doing. Thank you so much for that ever. Okay Commissioner Connell, you have any comments? Thank you, Mr. Chair. So Public Safety, Public Health, Public Welfare, you know, chief, I guess first and foremost, I would thank you and your staff for actually listening to your board. Hearing kind of the direction that your board wants to go and be improlactive To think long term. So thank you for that When I first got on the board. I did a number of ride-alongs and time after time it was This is a frequent flyer. This is someone that we saw last month. This is something. There's a person that we know and and I only bring that up because there's a true cost to the taxpayers for that. I think oftentimes we come at this from the public welfare standpoint and the determinants of community health, the commission prison mentioned, but there's also a real investment that if you can set this up on the front end, you save so many taxpayer dollars on the back end and you improve your community. So I love the video. I too kind of did some research and they seem to know how to do it right, bringing services to the community where they are. This is a big commitment, Commissioner's long term. Big long term commitment because it is complex. It does involve training and budget. And I think if we are gonna do this, which it sounds like we are, and I'm very much in favor of it, that this is the right way to do it. And so, you know, to, I'll just end with Commissioner Prisiod's point, safety harness instead of versus a safety net. And I think it's really important. It's part of what makes a lot to a county different around the state that I'm so proud of. So thanks for bringing this forward, chief. And thank you to your staff. Thank you. OK. Chief, I would like to say thank you. I'm in very supportive of this. I think it's a great thing because we have a lot of vulnerable people in our community who don't know how to get help and they might call rescue or something like that. And then I think the part is that they do get the chance to go to the hospital, but when they leave the hospital, there's no one to check on them at all. And I think that one of the most disturbing things to me was seniors who live alone and only get one meal a day. who live alone and only get one meal a day. I mean, that hurts me because I'm getting old and one day I might be in that position, you know, and I want somebody to at least have some type of services available for me to use to get help, medical help, to get social services as, you know, And I'm sure that you guys see a lot of this when you go into folks' homes responding to calls that, I mean, you have to see the living conditions. Me as a funeral director, if someone dies at home, it calls us. We go in the living conditions, and this person has been on hospice, and what the living conditions are deplorable, and it just breaks my heart to even know that people in this country live like that, you know, and it's heartbreaking. And so if this program will help those or the least of us to get the medical help and the care they need, I think it's a great program. I mean, a life is very expensive to me. I think it's expensive because I think my life is expensive. So, and I know they probably feel the same way. And so getting that care is really really needed because a lot of folks don't go to the doctor either that are elderly because they forget their appointments, that kind of stuff. Don't have transportation. I mean, there's a lot of issues out there. So I think this will be very beneficial to our community. So thank you for this. Yes. I don't know if Cam did if anyone can answer the question, but I do have one question I could. One of the things that I've thought about a lot is that while we have a really amazing social services set of like nonprofits and community and they each have their own kind of niches, it does seem like we have the continued care that talks about unhoused people in homelessness. And then we have mental health services and that's over here. And then we have the food system, people that are doing food assistance and emergency services that they're over here. And then we have rebuild, which is doing energy efficiency and house repairs over here. And so I wonder if part of what Camden Coalition does is think about that complex social determinants of health and thinking about who are the players in each of those sectors and trying to kind of bring them together. Is that, I mean, that's what it seemed like when I was looking at it. But I do think that's one of the things we need as somebody that can help us have that conversation and how do our community health workers begin to be like essentially like little hubs that like connect the dots between those organizations. Yeah, good afternoon everybody. Obviously Bill Nice from Elastor County Fire Rescue. Yeah, so one of the early conversations that we've had with the the coal issue is about convening here because they are about convening elsewhere. They actually put on a national conference every year, putting care at the center, to bring people across the country together to kind of discuss complex health and social needs, and really those social determinants of health. The story that Jody shared isn't our team success, it's a community success because we leaned on other people in the community to do this. So we can't operate in silos, you really need to bring people together. As a social worker, the only way I'm successful is because I go to all those meetings and I meet all of the people, but how do you get them under one roof? And that's a part of this conversation is how do we make these meetings, these convenings a priority instead of us all kind of trying to just do our own thing in a silo and then reaching out to people here and there when we're stuck, how do we make it a priority to meet consistently so that we're shifting whole systems of care. Not just the continuum of care for substance use and mental health, you know, a COC for housing, you know, discharge planning for a hospital system, coordinated release for the jail in a prison, coordinated entry for homeless services, like bringing all of those together and having continuums of care for all sectors where people are moving through, receiving care, but oftentimes falling into those gaps. And you know, our team, we have a great team, we're young, but we're fortunate because we are kind of moving at a speed far greater than, you know, I experienced back in 2012. We were learning on the job, we have the benefit of, you know, experts who really bring passion to this. And so I think we are poised to do that. But it is getting the support of, you know, the commissioners and then everybody else. But by and large, the people that we've spoke to in the community, we've reached out to the mobile outreach clinic. We've spoken to release three entry. We've met with Grace Marketplace. All of the community providers, elder care, like we are doing a ton of meet and greets because we know we're all going to need to be together in lifting this up. And so we feel very excited about this opportunity, but we also know it is a great responsibility to undertake and to chief the SS point. We want to do it right the first time. Well, we really appreciate that attention and that energy. I can say this is one of my proudest moments as a county commissioner. Like, this is something and I thank you chief for hearing us again and again. I know even in your audit, it said, you know, community health would be an important thing to invest in. And I know it's not your expertise. So I appreciate you being willing to come along for the ride. And I think, you know, one of the things I will say too is this data, however we can capture it. I know it's hard, but like, you know, the stories are so beautiful and those stories are really important to be able to tell because they help people understand why these things are so important. And I think if we can also capture like that person was probably trying like probably was on some kind of this assistance and this assistance and getting this money and this money and it's like those people end up being very expensive people like we have the million dollar man who comes to the emergency room like every other day and it's costing a lot of taxpayer dollars or in and out of the jail all the time and if we can get that person in a stable housing, introduce them to job opportunities, get them on their medications and stable with a mental health provider like we've changed a life but we've also saved taxpayer dollars and you know I don't like making things about money but Ken's right, this isn't going to be cheap and so so to the extent that we can actually capture how we are creating savings by doing these things, that it's ultimately not a drain on our taxpayer dollars, it's actually a benefit to us because we save money and we open the jail for real criminals who need that, who where we need to protect our community rather than people who are just in unfortunate circumstances and find themselves making desperate decisions. So thank you. Yeah. And Ken and Coalition is a data driven organization. So we would get real-time data from the hospital systems and we would be able to engage immediately. Because I would know which of my participants just went into the hospital. But eventually we overlapped police data and jail data to identify the highest utilizers of systems, target them, meet them in the jail, meet them in the hospital, meet them in the community, and then really reduce their utilization across all systems. Miguel, who was on the video, was one of the first people that I worked with, and we had a poster representing pre-intervention and all of the money that he costs the system, and post-intervention, and all of the reductions across multiple systems. People with complex health and social needs will continue to go to the hospital because they have complex health needs. However, they won't be overutilizing EMS calls. They'll be engaging primary care. They'll be going to specialty care. They will go to the emergency room if it's an emergency. But we provide them the support and the ability to kind of choose the health care that's best fit for them and not being in a survival mode but being in a thriving mode. And so ultimately, you know, things like find help. We worked with them back when they were Aunt Bertha. So there's a lot of things that this community is doing here that the Kenden Coalition has a lot of expertise and experience in. However, we're going to be doing some innovative things here that they have not. And so it isn't just going to be one way learning. We're going to be able to really provide them with information on what it looks like to have a community paramedicin program to do, you know, kind of mat treatment in the community and other things that we're hoping to do and community health workers were a core of our team. It was always a community health worker paired with a medical professional. So I know that we can put community health workers to good use in the work that we're hoping to do. Thank you. Just very quickly you all take care of each other too because what you're taking on is it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's will probably tell you maybe a little bit too much but right it's the sustainability of our team creates the ability to help people and I can't help anybody if I'm not taking care of myself. So we preach that to the core. And it's obviously things that I'm steeped in in my time in New Jersey. But I'm excited about our team bringing it here. And like I said, eventually showing other communities outside of Alachua how to do innovative work. Good, even young people get tired. You're just. Wish I was young. Thank you. So much. OK. Thank you. All right. Thank you all. OK. We'll move to our public hearing part. A request to amend section 402.113 of the Unified Land Development Code, regarding criteria for approval of special exceptions. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair. Let me get that out of this. Good afternoon, Mr. Chair, Jerry Brueyton, Senior Planner, Lachor County Department of Growth Management. I'm here for the first of our two presentations on code updates to our Unified Land Development Code. And actually, I'm just gonna go to the last slide today. This presentation was previously given to you at the request to advertise meetings. So I didn't wanna go, it is here if you all wanna see it again, but I didn't think you wanted to sit through that. But what we are here today is for adoption of approved changes to 402.113 of the Unified Land Development Code regarding criteria for special exceptions. Actually, I'm going to give this to the clerk. I have a cheat sheet with the code changes on it. It's actually at the end of your staff report, but I made some extras here so that you have just the one page. And I'm gonna go over these in fairly short order and then take any questions that the board may have. Again, the board had originally asked staff to come back with some recommendations for amendments, changes to the language for criteria for approval of special exceptions. We presented those in an outline form at the request advertised. At that point, the board approved us going ahead with this, but asked for some changes specifically taking some of the specific criteria that we were doing for portions of the code and putting it in the general criteria. So I'm going to go over these really quickly with you. We could get the overhead. I'm just going to go over these really quickly. The Unified Land Development Code is for 402.1 with 3 is divided into two sections. First one is the general criteria and these criteria are the general criteria that we use for approvals of any special exception. Oh great. This first part is used for when we are looking at special exceptions. I'll leave it up a little bit. Actually, part is at the bottom. I don't know if that. When we do approvals for special exceptions, we look at these general criteria first. And these, what we have done is made some changes, and then, like like I said the board at the previous meeting had asked that some of these criteria that we have been used specifically be put into the general criteria. Specifically if you look at number seven with regard to buffering we added some language with particular emphasis on screening and buffering between residential and non-residential uses. Again we we had these in specific ones. You said put it in the general criteria. We did that. Same way with environmental justice issues. Number 11, we have added that in to the general criteria so that we consider environmental justice issues for all special exceptional requests. Same again for road facilities. Again, this is something that we looked at and y'all had said that you wanted that in the general criteria. So we've expanded the general criteria on this page and I would also add that EPD has also added one number six about on-site sewage and disposal systems when sewer service is not available. That is something they wanted to see added in specifically. And so we put those all under the general criteria for 402.113. If you turn your page over, what we then did is provided seven different, actually six different areas where we got a more specific, rather than going by each one of the special exception provisions in the code that were like 48, that was gonna be too much verbiage. We did not know, we only see one or two special exception criteria applications in a year. So we broke them out into general areas. Agricultural uses number one. Infants on impacts to agricultural operations in the area. For number two, transportation bus stations and the like, transportation infrastructure should be considered. Noise impacts to surrounding residents, impacts to telecommunications facilities. Number three was entertainment and recreation uses. Again, hours of operation and impacts from outdoor lighting from the intended use. Number four is retail uses. Again, potential hours of operation and impact from lighting and parking areas. Number five, personal services. Same thing as number four. Number six, industrial uses, transportation facility impacts, potential long-term impacts related to closures of the facility. And lastly, again, number seven, outside the urban cluster area, impacts to water and sewer service, and sewage treatment and disposal systems and water efficiency. So we added these general provisions for basically everything else in the code other than the general criteria you found on the other page. And this is what we have come up with. This specific language is all here in front of you. We have copies over on the table of anybody's interested and of course it's in the staff report and in the resolution. And so that is what staff is presenting to the board for your consideration for approval today, Mr. Chair. I am here to answer any questions. If you have any specific questions about any one of these code language changes. But with that, what staff is going to recommend is that the board first convene is the LDRC, Lane development regulation commission, find these proposed changes consistent with the plan, the board would then reconvene as the board of county commissioners and adopt the proposed changes. That is staff's recommendation Mr. Chair and that concludes our presentation unless you have any questions. Is there a motion to convene as the motion? Second. Second. Second. I got a motion in a second. I also would like to find the proposed amendments consistent with the Electric County Comprehensive Plan. I have a question about a word. Jerry, on D11, do we have any concerns about the wordage of that? No? No? Mr. Chair, I don't know that staff has any concerns. We can always change words if there is. What we were trying to do is best mimic the comprehensive plan language found in the plan and put it here. this is kind of again mimicking comp plan language for environmental justice and there is in the provisions of the comp plan for location of like institutional facilities it's environmental justice and so we were trying to include that in the code as well that was the intent of the language Mr. Chair. I know it I just wanted to wanted to make sure that we were not going to be flagging it. There are some buzzwords anymore that we're looking at that would cause concern. And that's the only reason I'm asking. You don't see anything that would make us a target here. We have not, that has not been identified. It's a policy. Policy decision. Yeah. So it's not, okay. We're not violating anything. Yeah. We want to leave it alone. I want to leave it alone too, but I just also don't want to make us a target. That's all. That's all. And if you all are not concerned about it, then I will not be either. OK? I withdraw the question. OK. Well, you could be concerned, but I'm not concerned. I mean, to the point, I mean. You know what I'm saying. And what would be the purpose of us being elected officials if we can't make decisions locally for our community? I mean, I just don't understand. I mean, I know what's going on, federally, all of that stuff, but there's nothing to do with it. So you're locally. That's one man's opinion. I don't think that's everybody's opinion. But anyway, that's just mine. I just want to be removed from the board, that's all. We can't be removed because of that. There's there's no negligence here at all. To be accused to be removed for something. Yeah, so I mean, but anyway, we'll leave that alone. Okay, so was there a second? I don't think I know. I didn't hear a second. I didn't hear a second. That way too. Okay, we got a second. Okay, we got a motion in a second. Now we're recone as the board of kind of commissioners I'm good to vote. Okay vote. All right those in favor Those are both same sign motion carries Okay, now we reconvene as the board of kind of Correct, okay And is there motion move to approve the additions to the land development codes for chapter 404. Second. And motion is second. Are there any further discussions? Do we need to adopt ordinance number or anything? Yeah, the next ordinance number, whatever the clerk assigns. Or just 25 xx. Yeah, the clerk usual will assign the next. OK. All right. Those in favor of a motion will buy the sign of I. Hi. Hi. Hi. I those opposed same side. I'm sorry. I forgot to do any public comments, but I didn't see any. So for the record, we're empty. So OK. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, thank you. Our next item is the adoption hearing for the county. Initiated amendment to the Unified Land Development Code next, for the next, for the next, for the next, for the next,, my name is Angeline Jacobs. I'm a planner in growth management. This is an adoption hearing for amendments to the Unified Land Development Code. I also wanted to point out there are several, there are two items that we are pulling from this discussion. One is the carport discussion because we have requested to be put on a May policy, meaning to have a further dialogue with the board and have more discussion about the trajectory of that code update. And additionally, during this last month, we made outreach with our surveyors in the community in certain comments that they made. We'd like to pull that for further discussion and dialogue with them and bring that at a future meeting. So for today the group of amendments for consideration for adoption are related to access to paved or unpaid publicly maintained roadways, setbacks specifically for the setback affidavit process and certain definitions and then parking. So changes since our last meeting for access to paved or unpaid public redways. We did from coordination with our fire rescue and also with public works. One is specific for public works is related to specificity to the amount of public right away needed and also if there are cases where there isn't that available then there might be a need for a certain dedication of public right away. And then for the fire rescue horizontal clearance we did confirm the waiver, no language, approved through the fire prevention code, chapter 18, if that minimum 20-foot could not be met, or there are certain circumstances where it could be reduced. But besides that, everything else is the same in this section that I presented at a request to advertise. And again, with the setback affidavit process and definitions, all that information is the same from our previous. If you'd like me to go further into it or I can, that one would be to change the setbacks of platted lots through an administrative process. That would mean that the amended setback shall not be less than the zoning setback standards, that these changes would not affect existing natural resource setbacks or any easements or buffers that would be on there would be avoided unless there's been a replat with the BOCC. And then the changes shall be documented by recording an affidavit with the clerk of courts. And that has a time limit of a one year so that it would not be considered legal setback if it had not been recorded. And these are just some similar, some definitions that we've updated. We made some minor changes in the public and the parking requirements that you can see here and also in your backup, mostly in relation to synthesizing the information into more specific, like if there's overlap and it's a redundancy in our parking requirements and also if there's a statute preempting us, we also made those changes. And we did make outreach through our public notice website and also specifically to survey as it relates to the survey changes. And so staff recommendation is to convene as the Land Development Regulation Commission and find the ULDC amendments consistent with the Elatua County Comprehensive Plan and then also to reconvene as the Board of County Commissioners and approve the ordinance and authorize a chair signature on the ordinance and that concludes staff presentation. Okay, I need a motion to reconvene. I mean, convene as the land development regulation. So moved. So I got a motion of a second. Those in favor of the motion, what I sign of our, all right, those opposed, same time motion carries. All right, is there a motion? Move to find the ULDC amendments consistent with the Allotra County Com plan. You got a motion. I mean, the second second. Okay, got a motion in a second. Are there any further discussion to the motion? Are there any public comments to the motion? Back to the board. Those in favor of motion, we'll buy the sign of I. Hi. Those opposed, same sign of motion carries. Now we need to reconvene as the board of countries. Your motion. Move approval of the ordinance and authorize the chair's signature on the ordinance. Second. No motion of the second. Are there any further discussion? Are there any citizen comments? Thanks for the board. Those are in favor of the motion. But by the time I... Hi. Those opposed. Same time. Motion carries. Okay. Thank you. All right. And next item is any closing comments? Are there any public comments? I don't see any public comments. So county attorney comments? Mr. Chair, I did not have comments today. Okay. County manager. Just to echo the sentiment we heard at the beginning of the meeting about world masters, it's been really wonderful to go out and see the events. And I would mention to you all as commissioners, I know I've had the opportunity for some of you to mention it individually, but if you have the opportunity to go out when they are presenting awards, they would love to have you to present the medals. So if you have the opportunity to go out and they're doing awards, just let them know who you are and then that you want to participate and provide medals to the athletes who win gold, silver and, silver and bronze. And, um, I thought you said 10 a.m.? A lot of time they start at 10 a.m. Well, I'll make sure Latoya has the schedule of when the awards are going every day, because I always have something going on at the stage there in the promenade of celebration point. And it's, it is set up just like the Olympics, they'll get up on a podium, their country, the gold medal winners country, they're nationally at the more play and they'll have the flags behind them of each country. They're nationally at the Moolplay, and they'll have the flags behind them of each country. And so it's a really nice ceremony. They receive a certificate and a medal. So anytime you have the opportunity, they would love to have you out there to participate. They also get a nice little stuffed alligator. Yes, the gold medal winners get a stuffed alligator, and we, Jessica and her team came up with an idea. There's a little note on it for them to take them back to their home country and to post a picture with the alligator to a certain hashtag where we get all those pictures back of the gator going to different countries. So I thought that was a wonderful idea. Yeah so anytime you have the opportunity they'd love to have you. Okay all right thank you Commissioner comments. Yeah Ken do you have any comments? I wish I could have been there today and yesterday, and I really appreciate y'all allowing me to participate. I've got this ear thing that I'm dealing with. Hopefully, I'll be on the men's soon. OK. All right. Thank you. All right. Mr. Rides, let's have a cup. Sure. Go ahead. Just one comment. I was really kind of a colleague's comment about not, you know, being informed about the naming of this because of the housing, the commitment of the people on the housing committees. I feel like that would have been a really good opportunity for them to actually have participated in having a say in all of this. And I think some of the comments he made were pretty relevant about how we name this thing too. And I'm still having a hard time with tumbling creek's edge. There's no tumbling creek side anywhere. So, I don't know tumbling creek's edge for me is harsh. So I don't know if that's this sort of thing you walk and look at again, or if you're happy with tumbling, tumbling creek's edge for me is harsh. So I don't know if that's the sort of thing you walk and look at again, or if you're happy with tumbling creek's edge, but there is no tumbling creek side. So just saying, that's all. Creek side. I'd rather have creek side because creek side sounds better than creek edge. I would yell then. I didn't. Okay, so I don't know. Are you just what it is? It's just much more melodic. It's all I'd say. You know, it's easier to come at your map. It's just a prissy. I'm fine with Creekside. I mean, I think it's nice. Nice. I guess, and I hope, for a few since we did say there was another one that maybe, you know, there's another, I think giving's nice. I guess, and I hope for a few since we did say there was another one that maybe, you know, there's another, I think giving staff some ability to do some words smithing to your point that smooths the name out or makes sure it's not in competition with other names out there makes a lot of sense. That way we avoid the issue that you were talking about of us being mistaken for a different place and that it rolls off the tongue instead of being a little bit softer. But you know, and I would move if we could to change Tumbling Creek's edge to Tumbling Creek's side if you all second. All right. Got a motion in a second. I'm afraid we're discussing the motion. Do you to me. We can ask him anything he feels bad he's just want to be done. All right those are a favorite motion we'll buy the Sun. Bye. I'm the post same time motion carries. Thank you all. There's no citizens, no comments. Okay, Commissioner Prisiot. Yeah. So I want to bring up 234. I know this is going to be an easy conversation, but I think it's one we anticipated when we had the conversation about our roads. When we were having the conversation about approving all of the roads and having our list of roads, one of the things that we talked about was when we're doing a road, if we're doing, you know, that if we're already out there, we want to make sure we're doing all of it so we're not, you know, and make, you know, that it's different when they're large roads and there's different sections of roads, but when it comes to 234, Ramones and email today I believe this morning, and it's brought to our attention now that we're literally doing every section of 234, except for one, one section. And so we're gonna have this all newly brand newly paid road that extends the whole way and then about I Think it's two miles or something before the end of the road We're just gonna stop and have a road that's in the deteriorated state. It's in now Till 2082 So it's like like one section. He said it's a $3.1 million project, so it's not a cheap project, because it's a major rehab. But I do think it's something that we should have a conversation about considering they had some savings from another job that was about half of that cost. Normally, they just like plow back into the bucket for other projects that were over budget. You know my feeling is we should have them keep it for this project and find the rest of the money for this project. It just doesn't make sense to me to not do the whole road. I don't know if there are other roads like that where we're doing three out of four sections or two out of three sections of roads. That are really in as bad a shape as I mean there's a few roads we know in the county that are really really really bad right two thirty four two thirty five we've got you we've got a few of those roads we we have a lot of roads that are in bad shape but we have a few that are in really bad shape so you know not I just I feel like we should do that section of the road and finish the project that we started. I don't know how my other board members feel but. Okay. You know, not, I just, I feel like we should do that section of the road and finish the project that we started. I don't know how my other board members feel. Okay. Well, it's the additional cost. I guess, Macluse, 3.0, 3.0. That's what I'm saying. But they have like one point here I'll bring up the email. I have it up here too. Ramon said 1.5 million they have. They have 1.5 so they have half of it essentially. The total is 3.1 they have 1.5 in leftover money because they saved money completing another part of another project. And maybe I have no problem with that one. That's only half of the money, so. I would love to see I'm trying to find the money for that. That was actually on my list, too. I had no more. I had four phone calls or emails or Facebook posts about that road this past week. I went in, I went in drovet last week. I could barely drive the rope. Like I almost got in an accident at one point because I was going to hit a rivet that was so deep that I had to swerve and then I was trying to swerve. I was trying to swerve so I didn't swerve all the way into the other lane and create any problems. And then I swerved too far. Anyway, it was, it's really bad. It is really bad and I was gonna bring it up so I'm glad that you did it first. Thank you. Anyway anyway it was it's it's really bad and I was gonna bring it up so I'm glad that you did it first thank you anyway so Ken and yeah mr. Grinnell yeah I'm with Anna on this you know I I'm the last one that wants to make an exception to our program but I also think we've got to kind of be an efficient government first and foremost and So I'm with you Anna on this. Let's use the excess money that we have Let's find the other money. Then let's do the whole road and make it a good project Okay, manager Um, yes, mr. Chair. I just want to make note to the board that This is not the only road project that is broken in the segments. We have a lot of projects that are broken into segments and the segments were determined based on traffic as well as deterioration on the segment and I'm not here to alter your opinion on that. This fourth segment out of three out of four versus the one of four, but we do have several of our projects that are broken into segments. We may have saved 1.5 million, but we are also over budget on other projects that we would have normally shuffled this funding to on projects that are already in the hopper moving forward. What I can suggest, or what I'd like to suggest before we jump right into this one, could we bring you back or maybe a report where we have other similar segments, what it looks like as far as how much is over in other projects that are already in process, maybe a little more detailed information before the final decision is made, or you just want us to move forward with this section. I just know that there may be other segments where, you know, if the sole concern is efficiency because we're doing three of four, there are probably other projects that are broken into years with only doing segments, you know, a certain time and then two or three more years we're doing another segment, etc. Do we start a prison? I think I thought I heard Ken. Ken? I thought I heard him bounce on, but he wants to go. Can you have comments? Yeah, Chuck, I totally agree with that approach by the manager and it actually kind of occurred to me that Ramon probably would like to have, you know, every two years maybe a meeting where he could bring this is what happened on the ground and here's what I'm recommending to, you know, kind of fill some of these holes and make small minor adjustments. So I like that approach. I'm totally fine with that. I think that in this, I will say that in this instance, I think that I know that there are other places where we split them into segments. I don't think there are very many that we split it into segments and we aren't at least addressing those segments at some point in the 10 years, or that we have a section that was already addressed a while ago, so it's in better shape. So that's why it's not getting the attention it's getting. I think this is maybe, I hope, one of the few where we split it into segments and don't touch it, but I guess we'll find that out in this meeting. I hope it can come sooner rather than later though. So maybe it's added to an upcoming agenda, even if it means we have a little bit of a longer meeting. We'll get it on ASAP to have that discussion. Okay, thank you. That was my only thing. Okay, commissioning. That was the same thing I was going to bring up. So, look at that. Good, I had five phone calls about it this week. Okay. All right. All right, so I have one item for a chair letter. This is for the Elachua County Housing Authority, Merrill Wood Project in Elachua. They are asking for a demolition of two areas or two apartments. But one of the things they explained to me was that those are the apartments that do three to four bedrooms and so they're going to replace those with three to four bedrooms and so I thought that that was a good idea so they wanted the Board of County Commissioners support. I think Latoya put a copy of the letter in each of your mailboxes. And so the draft, so if I can get a motion for that, that'll be great. That'll be my comments. Got a motion in the second? Are there any further comments? Are there any public comments? Commissioner Cornell, you have any comments? I support it. OK, all right. So those I'm sorry go ahead okay those in favor the motion vote by the son of I. I was opposed anytime motion carries. Commissioner Prisya. I did have one quick question though we got this summary we get the summary of assignments in our inbox on a regular basis and there were several things on that that were scheduled for this meeting and And one of them was the eco-loop conversation. I know that those people disappeared, the compost sunshine, compost folks. But also the minimum-livering standards and energy efficiency stuff. There's just a bunch of things that were listed as scheduled for this target meeting. So I don't know if we could get an updated one that has the updated dates for meetings but that would be great we will do that okay thank you if there aren't any further business we adjourn