I call the order. I call the order the city council meeting for May 19, 2025 roll call. Mayor DePue. Present. Councilwoman Gillis. Here. Councilman Thomas. Here. Councilwoman Dalbo. Here. Councilman Rainbird. Here. City Attorney Wolfe. Here. Interim City Manager. Here. City Clerk's Latinac president please stay in for the pleasurable Please remain standing for a moment of silence. Item 2 approval changes modifications to this agenda item 2, table item 8B, Ordinance, December 2024-0-47 to the June 2nd, 2025, City Council meeting. And also table item 8C, ordinance summer 2024 dash 0 dash 4, 8 to June 2nd 2025, I think the mic went down. It was doing really well. Is it down? 2025 City Council meeting. It was doing good. OK. Item 8, item 8B and item 8c. OK. Item 4. Yeah, Mike has not worked much at all. There's still taking out. I can barely hear myself. I'm hearing it. Item 4, presentation of proclamation, plaque, certificates, and or donations. Item 4A, proclamation National Public Works Week. National Public Works Week. Whereas public works professional focus on infrastructure facilities services that are vital importance of sustainable and resilient communities and to the public health. High quality of life and well-being of the people of the city of Edgwater. And more as these infrastructure facilities and services cannot be provided. Without the dedication efforts of public-word professionals who are engineers, managers, and employment ease at all levels of government. And the private sector, who are responsible for rebuilding, improving, protecting our nation's transportation, water supply, water treatment, sanitary-suited sewer treatment, solid waste collection, fleet maintenance, storm water maintenance, public buildings, and other structures and facilities essential for our citizens. And whereas it is in the public interest for the citizens, civic leaders, and children in the city of Edgewater to gain knowledge of and to maintain a progressive interest in understanding of the importance of the public works and public works program in their respective communities. And whereas the health safety and comfort of this community greatly depends on these facilities and services. And whereas the quality and effectiveness of these facilities as well as their planning, design and construction are vitally dependent upon these efforts and skills. The people's attitude and understanding of the importance of the work they perform and whereas the year 2025 marks a 65th annual national public works week sponsored by the American Public Works Association Canada Public Works Association. Now therefore I, decent appeal by the virtual of authority vested in me as mayor of the city of Edgewater Do hereby proclaim the week of May 8 to the 24th 2025 is National Public Works Week people purpose presence I'm going to appreciate all you do. I'm going to appreciate all you do. I'm going to appreciate all you do. Yeah, yeah. What go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'll leave that for you. Yes. Yes. Item 4B, Proclamation Drinking Water Week. Proclamation, whereas waters are most valuable natural resource, and whereas drinking water serves a vital role in daily life serving an essential purpose to health hydration, in high gene aids for the quality of life for our citizens. And whereas only tap water delivers public health protection, fire protection, support for our economy and the quality of life and where we enjoy. And whereas any measure of the success society low-maintenant morality rates, economic growth, and diversity, productivity, and public safety are in some way related to access to safe water. And more as a hard work performed by this entire water sector, designing capital projects, operating operators ensuring the safety, and the quality of drinking water or a member of the pipe crew maintaining the infrastructure communities rely on to transport high quality drinking water from its source to the customers. Caps and we're asked, we are all stewards of the water infrastructure upon which feature generation depends. And we're as each citizen of our city is called upon to help protect our source, waters from pollution, practice water conservation and get involved in local water issues by familiarizing themselves with water and we're at the City of Edgewater Recognize the vital role tap water plays in the daily life the infrastructure is required to carry it and from homes and businesses and The critical work that water professionals accomplished around the clock and behind the scenes and we're at the City of Edgewater Officers consumers and opportunity to recognize the hardworking people performing various roles, ensuring tap water is there when you need them. And whereas the coronavirus pandemic has shown a lot of the importance of drinking water for health hydration and hygiene needs. And whereas our water system play a crucial role in consumers' health hygiene hydration, many miles of very pipes, ensure reliable water is transport a collection through the treatment process to homes, businesses for cleaning hydration and cooking which are crucial to health and safety. Now therefore I, diesel the pew on behalf of the City of Edgewater, Dubai, hereby proclaim the week of May 4th to May count 2025 as drinking water week in the City of Edgewater. We urge each citizen and business to help protect our precious resources by practicing water saving measures becoming more aware of the need and save water and recognizing the water professionals working to ensure the water will be there when you need them. Set my hand here the 19th day in May 2025 and this seal to be of fix. National drinking water conservation. So someone here to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it on. I'm going to put it Day. We're asked. First Earth Day was enacted in 1970 and engaged over 20 million Americans to advocate for cleaner environment. And whereas Earth Day focused on bringing heightened awareness to several crucial environmental issues, thus resulting in the passing of the clean air, clean water, endager species, and marine minimum process acts, and the founding of the environmental process agency. And whereas recognizing the importance of preserving our national resources, by being good stewards of the community, city, county, state, and nation, and Earth. And we're as do our part by reducing waste collecting garbage, plant trees, encouraging polluters and acres. And we're as teach our children how to be responsible and devote time and attention to the issues of sustainability and environmental health. And we're as Earth Day as the annual reminder of the constant need for environmental activism, stewardship, community commitments, and sub-ainability efforts. Now therefore, I, Jesus, appear by the virtue authority vested in me as mayor in the City of Edge Water, do hereby proclaim April 26, 2025 as Earth Day, and encourage all residents to participate in this program activities that will deepen their environmental awareness. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Item 4D. Southeast Felicia Chamber Advocacy and economic development committee to provide a brief recap of the intercity tour on April 10, 2025 and address any questions. Good evening. I'm Stephanie for president and CEO of the Southeast Voluja Chamber of Commerce. We represent the cities of New Somernabeech, Edwater and Oak Hill. Our mission is to cultivate business through advocating education and connection to create a vibrant quality of life for the residents and guests of New Sumerna Beach, Edgewater and Oak Hill. And I just want to thank you all for your personal contribution through your support, the city of Edgewater, through your membership, your sponsorship and your active participation. We host a regional economic summit. Many of you have participated in. A result of that summit was identifying a project in Southeast Volusia to help diversify the tax base, create higher paying jobs and light industry. So we recently took a group of stakeholders, constituents, chamber members, Mayor DePueh was on that tour as well as Mr. Thurman, and we went down to Avacoa and Alton in Jupiter. There's a couple of planned developments down there, and some of the people that are working on during Park and the Deering Park Innovation Center were part of that development. So it gave us a first-hand look of what the future here could look like and then some of the best practices and lessons that they learned from those planned communities and how they are applying them here. And so not everybody could make the trip. It was a long day and I appreciate those of you that came with us. So we just created a short video we wanted to share. Maybe. Some Belucia County, Florida, the cities of New Somersed Beach, Edgewater and Oak Hill, together a vibrant coastal community with a rich heritage and untapped potential. We're transforming our communities, starting with Deering Park in Edgewater and the Deering Park Innovation Center in New Smyrna Beach. Full of opportunity, this site is ready to be transformed into something extraordinary. Located in a prime area, this site is poised for growth. Recently, we visited South Florida, Abakoa and Jupiter in Alton and Palm Beach Gardens. These communities have set benchmarks for balanced sustainable development offering vibrant mixed-use spaces and community areas. Their success stories inspire us as we bring a similar vision to Deering Park. Avacoa features a mix of single-family homes, town homes, apartments, and assisted living. Along with Florida Atlantic University, the U.F. Scripps Research Institute, and Max Planck Institute, with parks, preserves, and schools. Alton offers convenient apartments, town homes, and single-family homes with access to shopping, dining, recreation, and work, reducing trip miles and promoting an active lifestyle. Imagine connected spaces for all needs coming to life right here in Daring Park. By diversifying the tax space, we're creating a more balanced economy while expanding the commercial sector and reducing the percentage of tax burden on residential homeowners. We're developing quality labor Pool, offering high-paying jobs and access to higher education and technical training. With a flood, resilient design, connected stormwater system reducing off-site discharges, connected green spaces, and places for families to gather, quality of life rises within the landscape. This project will create jobs and boost the local economy, supporting our growing aerospace industry benefiting everyone in the community. This project is the result of thoughtful collaboration between city leaders, landowners, developers, and the community. We understand the concerns raised by residents in Venetian Bay regarding environmental impacts and potential bait and switch tactics. The Dering Park Development Company committed to excellence, transparency, and accountability, and the proposed plan unit development agreement locks in all commitments. 46,000 acres adjacent to the site have been placed in permanent conservation and at least 400 acres of natural vegetation will be preserved within the project site. The Deering Family has been part of our community for over 100 years. The Deering Family and Deering Park Development Company are dedicated to seeing this project through offering stability and strong financial backing even during economic downturns. The commitment to all promises including conservation and land management continues to grow with plans to add more acreage to ensure a sustainable future. Shaving a thriving future for Deering Park where people can live, work and play. Deering Park Innovation Center in the Howarding Southeast Volusia for a better tomorrow for your time. I would like to like to mention that our next economic summit is planned for October 23rd. I set out calendar invites and we would love to have all of you there at that. Any questions for me? Thank you. Any questions? Thank you so much for your time. Thank you for being here. We appreciate it. Okay. Item five. Citizen's comments. This is the time for the public to come forward with any comments they may have. Citizen's comments related to any agenda item may be made that the matter is before the council. Please state your name and address. So please limit your comments to three minutes or less. Jennifer Fox. Jennifer Fox 207 Francis Drive Edgewater. I have a concern to express and possibly a question to ask. I've noticed, especially within the last year. Many, many, many of these meetings are not being recorded with meeting minutes. For example, the planning zoning board hasn't had meeting minutes in the 18 months. Councilor, I don't think you've had meeting minutes approved at a meeting in two or three months. Several of your other excuse me, boards and meetings, likewise in the last year or two, or not approving minutes of previous meetings. I know the Florida Statute require these meetings be public and meeting minutes be maintained permanently. I can read that section of I have it here in front of me if you'd like me to, but it's not being done and I'd like to know why. As a matter of fact, I would actually challenge actions taken at a meeting without recorded minutes be valid. So I asked the question, why is this happening? Thank you, Ms. Fox. I'll make sure to ask that deer in our council reports to get you an answer during the next question. You're not the only one that has asked that. More of the attorney or Ms. Lockness wishes to answer that during their officer reports. Okay. And we'll also get you a written response. All right. Thank you so much for. Chuck Martin to a five cherry woodland edge water. I just want to congratulate our public works employees. A lot of them I've known for many many years, especially this guy. I sit here beside me. Good friends and my brother who work with him for 26 years till my brother passed away. And these guys and gals, they're definitely underappreciated and underpaid. And we got to do something about that at some point. There's a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes. During the last hurricane, we learned a lot and we've improved on it. Saturday before last on the mayor's birthday. Congratulations on your birthday, by the way. We attended the hurricane readiness preparedness meeting here. Thank you, mayor for coming. Mr. Rainbird and Charlotte. It was a lot of good information. Our police department has acquired another depot or vehicle. My hats off to them. This guys are always stepping up. Of course, our fire department is spot on. There is no better. I've seen more work done by our public works department in six months and I've seen in a couple of years and they've done it with the same amount of people if not less and I really appreciate the hard work they're doing the transparency from Mr. Mr. Moroni he stepped into a some big shoes to fill and Being transparent and honest is something that I think that we really appreciate here. I know I do. And thank you Sean for that. And you know, with this building and everything and everybody's main concern here is flooding. And you know, people are getting anxious and they're getting worried. And, I think we're going to do a lot better this next time. At least I hope we will. And, every council that's been here always blames the council before on the developments. But I can see that this council is getting a handle on it. And I appreciate that. And you know, I think the people here appreciate it too and I just want to thank you know Mr. Thurman for his hard work here as well you know he had some big shoes to fill we've all been through a lot but thank you thank you sir for your comments we appreciate it Good evening, Mayor Council. My name is Cindy Harris. I live on South Blanco Road. I'm directly east of the Deering Park Innovation Center project. These developments that are now starting most likely have been approved prior to current devastating conditions. Those are my flood pictures from Ian and Milton. Our fights to just survive, our fights to protect our families. My fight to protect my family and my neighbors is infuriating. And hard as we try, nothing is changing. It has now become a public safety issue in my eyes. We can change these plans. We can modify these plans and demand safeguards before these developments proceed. Actions have consequences. We have seen these consequences. We have lived them. We love where we live. We are proud of where we live. We can demand that developers take the same pride in our area. Have them safeguards surrounding neighborhoods and businesses. Retrofit our antiquated infrastructure and be good stewards. Instead of bringing more burden on us, unite with us. Make it a fun place to visit and live once again. Be respectful to those who have built this place into the place they wanted to develop here in the first place and have them protect the environment and what we have nourished and cultivated. Council, a positive recent decision of yours not only affected an edge water neighborhood, but had a greater reach into the other states. Your decision to close an entry way into a newer development in a quiet area in edge water here where children play, possibly save those children's lives. You see, my grandchildren play in that area where their grandparents, other grandparents live. But that my grandchildren's family extends far north into New England and to California. Had something happen to my grandchildren, that would have devastated many family members and my family thinks you for making that tough decision. My name is Cindy Harris and I'm running for Volusia County Council District 3. We need to change it in our development patterns. It's time for the responsibility where it lays. So as I close, I leave the wonderful people of Edgewater with this. I grew up here. This is my home. I have lost the use of my family property as you can see. Just like many of you, you are my neighbors. And I look forward to meeting you and listening to you. Council, thank you for allowing me this time to speak. Have a good evening. Thank you for your comments and getting involved. We appreciate you being here. Before I make a statement I think I should say something if it's all right. Unless it's directed to the city clerk we would let you use your time for citizens comments. Okay, well I, sorry. It's okay, we started the time. It's already started, it's started. No, it's okay. First I must clearly state that I respect the owner developer proposed live local project. I'm sorry to catch off and please pause the time. Could you begin with your name and address please? Okay, can I start with the time? Yes, sorry. My name is Doug Frederick. I reside at C. Anker Circle within the city of Edgewater. Okay. First I must clearly state that I respect the owner developer proposed live local project. And will never object any citizens constitutional right to propose and present anything that has been legally allowed through government passed legislation called live local. Fairly stated by government officials that this proposed live local project cannot be prevented. I am here to prevent not to prevent and or object. I am here to protect new residents and current residents equally. clear in clear in plain view is the denial of equal rights and citizens that a but this proposed project are not allowed to live local to publicly present concerns to local officials after complete. This closure proposed live local project at city council meeting related to clear list, risk to life and property were in the sole focus should always be public safety and public protection. There are mistakes within live local that need to be addressed and or corrected. My respectful request to Governor DeSantis, Florida State Senate, State House was requested for amendments to live local with further requests to financially assist owner developer of this proposed project related to equal protection via equal prevention This document was also sent to St. John's water management Districts, so they have custody and control of documented risk that is currently in place This document was also sent to the Lucid County government for their Knowledge I hope will assist them and other cities and towns going forward. I present this document publicly. The Edgewater elected officials tonight for complete knowledge with hope going forward that local elected officials have power and or control to constantly have the right they were elected to perform. That being to protect and serve through voting process after full public disclosure. What is cleared in plain view is a topographical, continuous downstop of land from root one to current vacant lot, continuing downward through current residence properties until it reaches the intercostal. What is cleared in plain view is current rest to existing community with a tremendous risk increase during major storm events with water flowing damage, falling downward causing damage, which is documented with pictures collected during investigation. Sadly, I must state also the sharp increase in fear related to individuals with criminal intent having easy access to a community with a vast majority in the last chapter of life. Primarily, Primrose primary focus on vulnerable victims. Additional public statements will only raise risk and fear. Public safety is addressed in the document. My reasonable request will protect new and current residents. I first learned on April 8, 2025 when a government official stated that my request for equal rights to all and for all was not legal. A request already presented for over five weeks. That request being a 35 foot natural buffer. Thank you. Thank you, sir, for your comments. There's more at the end of the meeting, but I would love to have you put on a council agenda meeting. We receive all your emails and we, at least I keep up to date with them and we'd love to have you speak a little bit more when there's no time constraints. The project's been brought up several times with several residents in your area and in Fortressaurus area and we'd love to talk about it a little bit more. I'm sure city manager in turning your you in contact with this gentleman. I received the same email. I have to give you this document I sent through registered mail to the governor. Sure. And I think it's important I disclose this to you. Sure, please give it to the city clerk. And she'll send it to all of us. But like I said, would love to have you on a meeting agenda. I've also had a meeting in my office with representation from that. Great. Subdivision. Great. I'm not a member of the board. And I'm not a, I'm totally not. Well, thank you, sir, for your comments and caring so much. I hope you did that. We all did. Are there any further citizens comments? Seeing none, item six, council report. I enjoyed a great meeting with the Florida League of Mayors. I had a great time meeting with several representatives across the state and Talking and walking put downtown Sanford talking about separate CRA programs that the city has Speaking of that I would also love I Reached out to our Reached out she was at the meeting the CRA director for the city of Sanford They have a lot of unique grand opportunities and I was really interested in and she has extended her contact information so to burn and burn them right and even more than he already is maybe we could set up a meeting for her to either come to a council meeting or speak with city management and extend it to the city council about the programs that they have been acted in Sanford. It's a great community they have a lot of great talented things going on in that community. There's something that's been on my mind and my heart and it's really not easy to do this but we're transitioning through a period in the city of Edgewater and I'd like to talk to my fellow council members about this. Aaron, I think you're doing a tremendous job in the past. I think that you have represented the city well in several cases. We were on top of council throughout the years but unfortunately somewhere along the lines was speaking to the separate council or several citizens and counseling with them and talking with them. The communication touch has been there. They've lost trust and our city attorney unfortunately. Not saying that that you're doing a negative job, but that's just what I'm hearing in the community. And I'd like to bring it up for discussion and see how other council members feel about that. And what I'm proposing is that I've read the contract. I know that you are a contracted employee. I would possibly like to send it out for RFQ within 30 days with the position for you to reapply. I'd like to make a motion. I'll pass the gavel to the vice mayor to open that up for discussion if there is a second Second for discussion Okay roll call for discussion Councilman rainbird may it appeal yes, councilwoman Gillis. Councilman Thomas. We're threatening for discussion. Yes, we're discussing. Yes. Yes. Councilwoman Dalbo. Yes, for discussion. So we did an evaluation. I don't think I don't know if the evaluation is public yet. I just submitted mine on Friday with the concerns I have and like I stated I'm getting calls for several residents and reaching out to our residents and they just don't have the confidence. So I was just wondering if you guys have heard from it any other residents and how you were feeling I know we're going through a lot of changes in management at this time so I I just wanted to open it for discussion. Well, sir, I have not heard. I have not heard. I have not had any residents come to me as far as Aaron's job. I wrote also right over the contract and he's doing everything that is laid out for the contract, representing the city. I feel it keeps Council informed when we need to. Heaps it simple so we can understand it. A lot of times he's giving us information and giving us his opinion on how we should move forward on a subject and Council decides to go in a different direction, which is Council's choice. Then we have repercussions that he's dealing with. I think he's dealing with it the best he can. So in my opinion, I feel that he's doing everything the contract says. If you want to have a change in the contractor, or want to add some things to it, that's a good discussion. But I think he's doing everything that his contract is asking for. Are there any further comments? I've had several residents. I mean, I can say that I know that there's at least one here that reached out to me before the meeting and those concerns that they were planning on bringing up. So I have had quite a few residents come to me with the same concerns. And further, what I said before, my concerns are proactivity. I think that Aaron, you do a good job with a lot of the things that are brought to you, but I don't think we are proactive enough as far as Seeking answers for issues we have going on It'd be a chance to see To my understanding correctly if I'm wrong finance department of the city of Andrew be a chance to see who applies and the figuring price that they apply at. So we're putting it out to read the track. And would this, if this was to move forward, would you change the contract? Because as a contract, you know, Aaron is doing everything that is in line with the contract. Would you, when I have a whole new contract drawn up with other things you would like to see an attorney do or I think we should hold a special meeting on that if we move forward with this discussion. I think if that's a special meeting we shouldn't move forward with discussing about Aaron until we decide if we want changes. I think the change here is that the public is not confident and I think that we can change that to have more public participation in the contract. But none of us, correct as if I'm wrong, wrote the contract. Well, I think maybe you were on council before us, but I don't think it was approved when I was on the city council, correct as if I'm wrong, city clerk. I believe it was before I was on the council to give any input on the contract. I believe so, yes. I don't have the original date of the contract, I'll hand. I have to say another concern I'm having is that we have certain residents who are seemingly wanting to take control of the city, and we have employees that are doing a wonderful job, but there are certain residents who feel they're not, and because you certain residents are voicing an opinion or concern, we're going to change everything that we're doing with the city. The residents who only know what they're told, they don't know the ins and outs, the day-to-day operations of the city. And I feel it's unfair, they're going to start nitpicking when employee at a time, and start cherry picking. And before you know it, what's going to happen to our city? I think that if you have a problem with Aaron for example or an employee should be addressed with the employee first and not just kick him to the curb and let's bring somebody else out and then let's change the rules. So this new employee will have different rules and the employer prior. Well I agree with you but let's take a pause there real quick. The council only jer a city manager, the city attorney and the city clerk. We do evaluations and we didn't ask where to change, we didn't evaluation our city attorney that I was not satisfied with for the contract. I understand, but we do not have charge of the employees, but yet still we have employees that are under the attack by residents who there's no repercussion. There's no one held responsible to protect our employees because we have certain residents who have bulls eye offering people and it's very frustrating for me to see this once again move forward in a way that's happening. Well, it's understandable and I don't believe anybody should be under public scrutiny unless they deserve it. And this is not an argument that Aaron is doing his job. I think that there is some questions there, but the main point is from when I'm hearing, I don't believe it's from just one group. I think that the majority of the residents have lost a trust. Am I being it? That's big, Mr. Mayor. Of course. I think it's bad timing. Within less than a month, you're going to have a new person sitting at the end. And who's going to school him on what has been done in the past? How many years Mr. Wolf, you've been with? There's 14, 14 years. During that, I'm not buddy buddy, it was Mr. Wolf. During that time in in the 14 years how many phone calls have I had with you? One one time okay have we ever eaten lunch or gone anywhere Discussed anything. I think he doesn't excellent job Lawyers are attorneys are litig He's done excellent, Mr. Rainbird out of your words, out of your mouth, has acidity ever been sued? No, it hasn't until recently. That wasn't it. Well, okay, it's water check. Has this ever been, have We're being sued, no, because he's kept us out of litigation. You know, he gave us the good advice. He's I was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not qualified to evaluate an attorney just like he's not a value he's not a Qualified to evaluate me on my hunting and fishing and tracking and boating skills so I Just think it's it's bad timing right now now if you want to go out and get a tree hugging woman attorney that's gonna shut down all development, I know that's what the people want, then that's the road we'll go. But his vice is invaluable. And I said they're litigators. And some of the things that he does I don't agree with, just like, but still, you know, I feel good on his opinion on a lot of things. So that's my statement. Are there any further discussions? Yes. I just went through like two and a half months of listening to all the people. There's a lot of talk on Facebook, which I don't really take serious because a lot of the people on Facebook don't really have their real names. The people that have come up to me. You said 14 years. A lot of the people, doesn't matter who's in that chair or who's in this chair, we're all term limited out after eight years. They have a fear of somebody being in a seat for so long, the perception of power. And I like your idea, if you wanna have a discussion or a meeting about it, don't put this on us. People come forward, you got something to say. Come to that podium and say it, I've been doing it for two years, actually I've been doing it for a long time back to two city managers ago. But if you really feel something that's going to really affect this city because, right, we have a chance of having some huge voids here. Interim, interim, interim. If something's going to happen and you really wanted to happen, you got to let us know. Like I said, Facebook, audio, you don't even use your real name. So anybody could say that I'm John Smith and I think this and I think this, but there is a perception of the people that have come up to me face to face. They just don't like somebody being somewhere for so long. And I understand. You think it's good timing now? Right before, I mean, that, I get, wait, wait a minute. I'm saying we have a lot of voice, and if the people want to create another voice, let them come forward and say that, because they're putting a lot on us. This is a huge decision to make. We already have an interim there. We have an interim there. I hope we don't lose a couple people over here because there are people here under a lot of pressure and I'm sure there's other towns that say, hey, we can give you the same money for less. There's a lot of heat going on here right now. And I don't want to make I want to protect this city the best I can make the right decisions. I didn't fill out my evaluation either because I don't feel I know enough. Are there things that have been done wrong in this city? Hell yes. We got to figure out how to fix them. I'm just saying it's bad timing right now. I mean, you're probably right. You know, who's going to school the new city man? Who's going to inform them of what has happened in the past? So... Well, like I said, it was never... It was basically just to see the options that we would have. And I don't have the effective contract date, but when does the contract expire? Does anybody happen? It was effective. I know the date it was effective. I believe it expires January of next year. January of 26, OK. Then I would say, and resurface it then. Well, we can wait if that's the consensus of the city council to wait to discuss this until we have a permanent city manager. There's nothing ill against our city attorney. I feel my evaluation, I think you do represent the city well, but the public trust is just not there for one of the areas. So is there a consensus to move forward with this discussion into emotion or consensus to wait until after the city manager is elected or appointed? I think at the very least way to after room, manager is appointed the very least Continue to discussion Okay, and the discussion is continued You continue with discussion. No, do we want to continue with the no, sorry? I would like to, I was piggybacking for Debbie said, to continue the discussion where we have a new city manager. So that's kind of where it seems like the, everybody's vibe is going, because I do think the contract should be discussed. I mean, as it was said, if you, that you think that everything was covered in the contract, there's things that I am not thinking that are being done. And if that's something we can look at, what needs to be outlined going forward in the future. And I ask a question about contracts while we're on the contract. I just watched the city manager get dismissed. And I find out that he had 30 days warning. If he was fired with cause, he was fired immediately. If he was fired without cause, he had 30 days to remain on site. Come back and sit at his keyboard. And we all know folks, he's disgruntled. He could have had 30 days to come back and sit at his keyboard and delete or edit anything or is I don't know Is our IT guy here? Is that all locked down? That's public information, but can that I just can't comprehend I've been an IT for 30 years. I've missed the attorney. Are we Sarbin's oxley compliant? Do we have the government? Do we fall under Sarbin's oxley? I would need to look into. Because to have a dismissed employee come back and sit at your computer system. I don't know guys, I just think that's crazy. And moving forward with contracts, I don't think that should ever be a deal. If you're dismissed, every company I've ever been in, when somebody's dismissed, they go and get the cardboard box, security guard walks them out out the door they don't sit back at their computer and I think that's leaving that just putting that out there for that happened here no I'm just saying you can't let that you can't somebody I agree I would say fired sit at their computer for 30 days I agree with you 100% on that I would I would like to move that you say your contract up in January. I believe so, yes. I would like to move that we propose, postpone this talk until this contract comes up. That would give him six months to school the new city manager and you know get him on the right track. That just seems common to me, common sense to me. Well, we would be discussing the contract anyway to renew it or not at that point in time, so it doesn't really make a difference. So I guess I'd make the suggestion to bring it up after the city manager is hired if we have any concern there. So, okay, seeing, we'll close discussion at this time. Is that a motion? He passed the gavel to make the motion. I passed the gavel to make the motion. Seconded a motion for discussion for discussion for discussion the discussion didn't move any further Unless somebody would like to make a motion or any further discussion We can make a make a motion to have the discussion once we have a new city manager Okay, is there a second second roll call Councilman rainbird yes mayor to pew yes Councilwoman Gillis. Yes. Councilman Thomas. No. Councilwoman Dalbo. No. Okay. Then the other thing is, is could you also answer the question about the minutes, either city clerk or our city attorney? Right, I think that issue governed by the Sunshine Loch after 286 which does require minutes be kept of public meetings and it's I believe it says they should be promptly recorded but that term is not defined so there's no definite time period for that to be done just as promptly recorded. Okay, thank you. Tellor. So they don't have to be read, because I've been the adjutant at the Ambas. I've been the adjutant at the American region. I've been the adjutant at the DFW. I think I've had to go home and write the minute, type the minutes out, because when we start another meeting, when it comes to minutes, sometimes the minutes would take me three minutes to read, and then they'd be brought up right there, so they're fresh. Because last meeting or two meetings, we just had six months worth of minutes to approve. And I didn't feel comfortable with six months worth of minutes to approve all in one shot. I mean, it's not that hard. So just go through the minute and they do the same thing at the, I've been on a planning as only board and listen to them for four years. Approval of minutes and none at this time. People out there don't like seeing that. I wouldn't like seeing that. What do you hide? What do you, I mean, and we're not hiding anything. It is full, but the person thinks, oh no minutes at this time, really. It's a lot to have six at one time, because that's a lot for us to go through. I don't know how anybody else feels about that. I think just because I've seen a lot with Bonnie and Monique and a lot of the stuff they do behind the scenes, coming part of Bonnie is it staffing is it just not like having the time to do it I know you guys are doing them because I've seen you back there doing stuff but is that the clarification? Staff and time. I know they eventually do get posted. And then the same thing because I believe was it Tammy who did the minutes for planning and zoning and she wasn't she wasn't there very long and now she's switching out with somebody else And I think some of it could just be also Just the plenty and zoning board minutes. I told them that they are not to be posted until I review them I Could post what she did It's not something that professionally, I would ever post. That's the way I could put it. But I can have them posted if that's what's wanted. Well, you got one woman doing that every day, doing what every day Doing what every day. Please listen to the device and Recording the minutes right Lisa. She no Lisa doesn't do minutes Monique does the minutes for city council And she does about a hundred and fifty other things also. Okay. Who does that? Who transpires the minutes? Monique does the city councilman. Oh, Monique. Correct. Along with about 150 other things. Does it go far staffing? That's why I made the suggestion we need a deputy clerk. I need a deputy clerk and then a administrative assistant. I need another person. So I think we need to put that in our budget. If I could clear up, it doesn't need to be done right away. It's just that when you go into the meeting, and you read the meeting minutes, it's good to have meetings. We should have a month or an hour, or a case lately, two weeks. Like I said, I did it. Sometimes my wife's PO, because I'm sitting there for two hours playing the recorder and typing them up myself. I'm bullet pointing, boo, second and what. But it's just good, in my opinion, it's good practice if we can do that. It's a lot though. I agree with you, Mr. former mayor. We need help here. Well, since this has been talked about now, we've got budgets season already coming up. Thank him, we need help here. Well, since this is being talked about now, we've got budget season already coming up, and can we get a consensus here for her to get the deputy city clerks? We've got extra staff back there, because that just sounded like three people. Comments are always talking about budget. Okay, Councilman Thomas. Yes, sir, thank you, Mr. I've received several phone calls. One by Miss Charlotte who responded to C. Goal. Is that the right name? C. Goal Court? Yes. Okay. And what I saw there was horrendous. Um, has anything been done about that? The brain is situation at Sego. I believe they were cameraing that line to make sure that the integrity of the pipe can be lined. Sean Moroni, Interim Public Works Director. the show Moroni interim public works director uh... we try to get a camera in there and it's packed full of sand we do believe it's second dirt under there we may have to line that pipe which i got to find the money for which you know we'll do it it's just a matter of taking some time to get in there we thought we could go in and just mud around the box but i believe we're gonna time to get in there. We thought we could go in and just mud around the box, but I believe we're gonna have to go in there and line it because pretty much everything else in that neighborhood's already been lined in first one reason or another, that pipe wasn't lined with the rest of it. So we are working on it where you can sure the road's safe and all that as far as that goes, but it's gonna take a little bit of a process to get in there. Okay. Thank you, sir. See, and I got the phone call about the minutes of the meeting and I think you'll answer that question that all the boards do have to record their minutes. Each meeting. I received a call from Robbie Lee, Miami Corporation. On the, I caught the Silver Palm Canal on the back. And we got permission from the county to dig a canal leading west. And there's only like 12 days left and will be in in hurricane season. What what process are we into that? We're trying to come up with a plan for that. Well, obviously the Silver Canal that the county donated to us for the North South. We already cleaned that one. So that one's already in our maintenance plan. The east west canal is open. It'll flow water. It's got some trees across it. We had robby's crew, or you talked to another land clearing company. They threw us a couple of big numbers that it's going to take to clear that to be able to get access to that canal. The one thing that we can do is send our spider through there, which is that's going to be our plan probably here in the next month or two. You know, we're trying to work it into our schedule and you know, there's if I do that, I'm not doing something else. So I got to make sure it all works with the schedule, but we are planning to run through there. Make sure the big stuff's out of the way. It'll be a lot easier to maintain if we can drive down that access road and just do it with a backhoe. Oh yeah, there's a road right along you so that's the easy part as far as that but a lot of big trees between that road and the ditch. Yes, sir, yes. So makes it difficult to maintain but maintaining from the road would be a whole lot easier and that's going to cost us some money so we're we're looking at possibly doing that part of it next year but we can get through there with our spider for now. I asked Mr. Lee if we could borrow a D6 and he said he knew longer as a D6. And anyway, yeah, he that's why he was kind of referencing referencing us out to another sub that could do it better than him. Right, but you know, definitely gave us a decent price, but we'll have to go to Alphar bid for the numbers. We're looking at. Right. OK. Mr. Thomas, I could add to that. I was going to have it in my report. But I reached out to County Chair Jeff Browell. And I explained in that they gave us 9.8 acres of land and they just handed it over to we've been maintaining it anyway. And I had a discussion with Mr. Thurman and I passed along the little wish list of Mr. Broward that maybe we could clean a burn down the 29th of the half street canal down the silver to West and He gave me a price tag of around a hundred thousand dollars and I passed that along the counts and he is Actually bringing that forward. Hopefully going to be able to help us out. I don't know like good deal He's gonna he's sitting with mr. Brad Burrbaugh. I don't know who that is and I will find out but Because we into consideration because I said, look guys, you just found 12 stray kittens in the game. I said, kitten. Here, here you go. Here's 10 acres of land now. Now, Maui, I think Mr. Moroni, we've been maintaining that land anyway, right? Yeah, the North South one, but not the East West. North South along Silver Palm, we've been maintaining. just the east west was always on private, which the north south technically was on private property, but we were maintaining it for the good of the neighborhood. But the east west one was deep into private property, so we never went in there. It was a hunting camp and all that. And that's where we need to do the clearing. The Silver Palm can now the north south we're good with. So Mr. Brower's working on that. Okay, good. Now, because all so far all the county's done is said, hey, look, we gave you land. We'll cheat. We need you. the silver palm can out the north south we're good with. So Mr. Browers working on that. Okay good. Now, because all so far all the county's done is said, hey look we gave you land. We need you. We need you. We need to do that hammer. To your point about money, the contractor is actually cheaper than that number. Oh good. I can clear the whole thing for about 94 or they can give us really good access for about 65. But again, those kind of numbers we have to go out to bid for versus if we go to the county and again coming up with the 100 grand is all another step but you know whether they have the equipment. But again, those kind of numbers we have to go out to bid for versus if we go to the county and again coming up Put the 100 grand is all another step, but You know whether they have the equipment to do that I'd have to talk to the county about you know whether they would So Mr. Broward gets back to me. Yeah, yeah, definitely it's always an option It's just a matter of we've had some of those discussions already and we've talked to the county about offering their services and again it's never free like you've discovered it's a hundred grand. Yeah. But yeah anyway it's in it's in the works. Okay thank you. Yeah we need we need to use laws that hammer for our drain system. There's no question and we need to get that done as soon as possible. I saw the news today and it's gonna be a Over excited There's no question and we need to get that done as soon as possible. I saw the news today and it's going to be a overexcited hurricane season again and four to one. Let's see and I've got appointment to ride with Mr. Smith tomorrow and we'll look at some of that. So I'm the years you got on Mr. Smith. Thirty-six. Thirty-six. So we're going to take it to a rather drainage system tomorrow. And I'm going to be on vacation from May 31st that whole week. So I probably won't be here for the June second meeting. That's it. Thank you, sir. Speaking of drain and sorry for you, the next report I've got to bring something up. During Glenn Erby's term, Fisherman Cove, it's right before you get to the Oak Hill line, just put it on the record. It's probably been about a two year discussion since I was first on the council. There's common easement that they pay into that the city of Edgewater is supposed to maintain, but their HOA has been maintaining it because I guess there's some discussion or dispute that the city won't, but their PUD states that the supposed city maintain. So if I can please give you guys one of their contact information as you or Sean, however you proceed could you please reach out to them and give us an Council and update. Thank you. Councilwoman Dalba. Thank you. I have one One thing I want to ask Ryan, there's two Senate bills that I believe are on our governor okay okay Jeff you have it okay just I know we discussed it together during my agenda review I think Mr. Chairman was gonna bring it up at the end I was gonna okay perfect we'll hold that to the audience very important Was color commentary for. Yes. Okay, and my We'll hold that to the IH to be important. I'm with color commentary for Okay, and my second thing I wanted to discuss is 30 streets traffic pick up with the kids and I don't know this is something that I would talk to Joe about or this is a school board issue When this pickup time and the school years are most done. So it's something we can have this summer to work over a work on 30 Street gets backed up and it's I have lots of people who have come to me and complained about it, worrying about safety issues. Sometimes it gets backed up, past lime tree going west. You know, people are having trouble getting in and out of the roads and who do we discuss or who's responsible for that or who can we partner with to try to find a good solution to that. For the record, Jim, I'm honing Chief of Police. The school made some changes to how they do drop off in their parking lots. So we had to modify our pattern to ensure that it doesn't back up to us one. The new pattern. Believe it or not is working. It's there's no perfect design for school zones. If you look throughout the county. Especially the older schools and even the new schools. They don't account for the parent pickup. And with the new security measures in place, especially in the morning with the gate as an open till 720, it created more of an issue. But really it's functioning properly. It's never going to be ideal. We did just hire Zevcoin, traffic engineering firm to look at the school zone in general the design and we can hopefully bring in some speed cameras to help control the actual traffic, not obeying the speed limit, but for the traffic pattern itself we've met with the school board. They're going to try to put some permanent things in place in their parking lot, but we're really just reacting to their changes and their security changes. And if you notice that first, it was kind of hectic because people don't respond well to change. As it evolved, you can see where the cars that are in line per se, they are pulling off to the right away where cars can pass relatively safely. But it is, it's an issue, but don't know if there's a perfect solution unless we were to add a lane. I'm something where it'd be multi-million dollar project. So, I was insured. I had actually had a resident come to me and suggest and I'll just start us out there. We had the park. If the parents, we were able to like not store the cars, but had the parents come in from the north side of the park and kind of have a traffic officer or a volunteer there to let something out of time to keep it moving. I don't know if that would be a solution. That was just something that was suggested. So I just wanted to bring that up. So we're definitely open any suggestions or to meet with, of citizens or the council or the school board. Right now we think we have the best possible solution for what we are dealt. Thank you. That's all I have. I've gotten several calls about that as well. Councilman Rayneberg. Well, I have three quick points, but I just wanted to continue with the Jeff Brower discussion. I also told him about that property that's for sale. They're open to that, but it's kind of weird because we have little dimples all over the place that's county. You think that this is edgewater, but this is county, this is county. But he looked at this and he said, wow, that's a pretty weird predicament that that's in. So he's also looking into that one. I had the privilege of attending a trip to the Edgewater Police Training Facility, Chief Mahoney and Captain Geiger, who everybody knows his chas. My mind was blown. I mean, we have one heck of a facility, guys. This thing, this truck that scared everybody called the MRAP looks like this tank. Well, it is, but it's a deep-order vehicle. We have another deep-order vehicle. We have water out there. We have deep-order guys. As long as these guys are available and safe, the one truck can take 30 people out of an area, I believe. They could pull up pretty much next to your house. You're up on your roof. They'll pull up right to your roof. You're going to step onto this thing. If they are possible of coming to help you guys, they got it. They got a trailer that they could pretty much outlast any hostage situation that you could think of with a whole training room. They can bring the guys to the problem and rotate, eat, sleep, get briefed, be briefed. County comes to our facility. I'm just got goosebumps at the capability that these men, just six years ago, we didn't have nothing like this. I mean, the county comes the 50 caliber rifle. Where the only guy, if I'm not wrong guys, where the only place where they can come and shoot a 50 caliber rifle? I don't wanna go look at that target, you need a four wheeler for that, but. Just the capabilities that they have, up, I think, I think they got like a competition who's gonna get the best rating between the Fire Department and Police Department, is it red or is it blue? But, Chief, I mean, I'll say it again, guys, if you got a problem with EPD, either slow down or don't cook, Math. Real. We had people for real up here talking about it in a house, so it's only a half a joke. Then I attended that Hurricane Preparedness workshop and Clint from the county emerges pretty awakening stuff that I mean you need to be prepared folks you can't wait for these guys to come with the emra and get you off the roof if you have an 82-year-old mother that's good and need to be carried out it might be best that you just leave just go watch the video there was so much stuff there we can only do so much you can only be so prepared so get out if you. I attended a tour just Saturday of the Edge Water section of Bearing Park and I was able to bring a guest with me and that guest was kind of a little bit against all the development and we went in with an open mind and What I can say is it was pretty impressive the attention that Mr. Deering's family is putting into this It's not a very popular topic right now and I just want to say that going out there I could pretty much tell you that if we have a problem from that place, it's not going to be run off. They have a huge moat around there where they're already retaining their water before they even have their retention pond's dug. They're putting so much aside the conservation. They are following at least six the low impact development techniques. They're getting rid of indigenous plants, putting in local plants. Dear Rana Cross is a couple times where fresh bear tracks, it's an absolutely beautiful piece of land. It's not the monster to everybody. We have bigger problems out out there If I could just read a quote that I saw on Facebook today from one of the people who don't really like the place You can go say it. It's there Deering Park needs the city of edge order to be successful and edge water needs the development to be successful Without the the success of both, there will continue to be problems for our residents. Deering Park has resources available that the city has needs. Partnerships are only built with honesty, integrity, and sharing, and caring of the community, solving with the most process issues. They asked us to trust them. And it's going forward folks. It's been voted on and cleared along before I got here. But I was told that Mr. Deering's been here for generations. His name is on this. His children and grandchildren on it. He wants to have his family walk through this area and be known as the man who built a nice community and didn't burden the other people and we have to trust that for now. We're gonna we're gonna watch but If you look at this place, I wish I wish every all the other developers They're not gonna have a burn issue. They got so much land that if it's gonna overflow build an arc folks And I just want to go out there and say, you guys know how I feel about all this development, but this was amazing to go see. I'm just telling you. And after that, I attended EdgeFest, which went over awesome again. Jason and the crew pulled it off seamless. I mean everything went great. Fire truck was a big hit. They had plastic fire hats for the kids. There were 3,000 honorary firemen walking around and at place. I mean they loved it. So that was really cool. And that's all I got. I water going. Councilwoman Gillis. Top that. I got a list of things I didn't want to piggyback. I will but you were talking about going out to the police range anytime anybody talks about going out there. I always like to throw out that parks and wreck built them that building. So it would all this stuff you see out there of the majority of it, Parks and Rec did it in house. So, and that's always something I like to plug. I just think that was amazing that they did all that. They left it out. But, all right. So I attended the Earth Day tree planting ceremonies with Habitat for Humanity. I attended two Florida League regional events in Sanford and Coco where we discussed issues facing our cities. I attended the Edge Fest Earth Day event. I attended the second annual FDOT District 5 Safety Summit, which I was on the steering committee for representing Volusia Flagler, and I wanted to thank EPD for sending Officer Baker to represent the police department. I delivered a proclamation celebrating John Stern's accomplishments in the community for teaching children to swim over the years alongside the city of New Samarna as well. I would like to thank Sean and also Dan for continuously following up on getting the street light replaced over by Edgewater Public. There was concerns with traffic in the mornings and kids going to school and not being able to see coming over the railroad tracks and then Parks and Rec also even had like put out a little temporary light for quite a bit. I think that they borrowed from environmental services to put out there up until they were able to switch out the bulbs. And the amount of time it takes to get FPL to replace a street light you would have no idea. I was just sitting here and like it guys it's just a street light. Like no we have to go through this and this to get them to do the street lights. So that's what that's an eye-opening process and it's on it. It probably took up, it was up a street light. Like no, we have to go through this, this, and this to get them to do the street light. So that's what that's an eye-opening process. And it's on it, we probably took up towards up a year just to get a ball replaced. I attended our hurricane preparedness seminar. I attended the state of the state of the Brandon Center. I attended the Volusia County Quarterly Cue breakfast. I attended the Florida Metropolitan Planning Organizations with Weekend Institute with Mayor Taylor O'Veau Kill and accounts for member Miller of Palm Coast and we discussed issues facing Valuesha Flagler TPO's with other members from across the state. I met with residents on different issues. I wanted to thank Myron and Jeff Laracy for working together with several different residents to fix several different issues because it was your department fielded a lot of my questions in this past month. Ryan also met with me to help with several resident issues. I went on up right along with the police department. I spoke with interim manager Thurmond about the agenda and then I also had Bonnie help me with several different issues I was having and then of course I got some random stuff to throw out the end of my report. So a couple things I wanted to bring up. This is the time to do it. We were discussing pumps at the hurricane seminar. I kind of want one of the things I wanted to bring up is if we would look at Council direction on purchasing some because I know we've talked about renting them but the fact that we just keep renting them and keep renting them over time that's gonna add up as opposed to if we were just to buy some and have them on standby and then we always have them if we need them. I wanted to see if there was any kind of consensus on that moving forward. I'll go ahead and comment last year. I was 2022 when I was first elected 2023 about January. I'm out of team pollution. There was a great opportunity to purchase two pumps. I'm out with Thompson pump and then the city manager wanted to go a different direction. So I'm out for it, but why don't we why don't we table that discussion? So maybe the next council meeting if I could see if that grant still is available. May I? At that hurricane conference or the meeting that we had, Clint from the county provided information that F.D.M. which is Florida Department of Emergency Management will provide the pumps for free. He got them to Volusia County within 12 hours last year. So in my opinion, it's not worth having them sit around all year from a maintenance standpoint and maybe be used for about two months out of the year when they're readily available. If if if them couldn't get them for us, we can easily rent them. I just don't think having them on site all year effectively sitting around is a fiscally smart move. When we do rent them, it is reimbursed through FEMA if it's a declared event. So that cost is not prohibitive by any means. And then now that we found out they're free, I still don't see the the the smartness in buying them when the readily available for us. So again, if we could apply for other grants, for other things, I'd rather look for money for other options. I've got a comment to that. Hurricane Nicole ended up hitting us pretty hard. We had an emergency meeting. I was told that the pumps were going to be here. Everything's great, grand. Yadiyahda, Erby was in discussion with them. And then it was, oh, well, they're going somewhere somewhere else because Jack's full save is gonna get harder than us and pumps aren't available. From FDEM? Yes. Okay. Just that little be prepared. Tom saying and we were under former management there but that did occur and it really upset quite a bit of residents and we used pumps that we had in house for that hurricane. And, I'll I'll tell you from my standpoint. I would still get you know three quotes or whatever on pumps So I'd be ready when the storms on its way So I can be ready to pull the trigger and just go so we could have that backup plant But I would dare to say that that's probably the better move to go with Go along with what my deputies said that is the other reason of wanting one because I had that same conversation with platform manager Erby about wait that they were coming and then they weren't and then So I just have that fear. I you say that we can get them for free But things happen but no still like for some future stuff. It'd like to look at having some so we have our own Um, and then I got two other things I wanted to this one's kind of a throw-in one out there, but I know Jason, you're good about parks. So help me out on this one. I wanted to bring up, because I've had several residents come up to me asking questions about this recently, so I started doing a little digging. I know at some point they talked about having mango tree, the lake being a passive park with putting like a walking path around it and aren't the dry docks got sent out there and nothing was ever kind of done with them. It was something that was looked at, but I wanted to see if that would be what happened with all that if you have an explanation for that and then what would council think about trying to bring that back up and put it back up on the table. was talked about when Sam was here we had explored the option we had gotten with Randy nothing's been explored recently. I'd have to get with environmental services and probably internally but there are docs that we did remove when we did the Kennedy remodel. They were brought out there and there was some talk about it but it's technically a stormwater supplementation area for reclaim if I'm correct so I we can discuss it I'm in Mr. or Mr. Thermick can be involved I don't know all the details in that but we did explore it at one point in time. I like it when I was mayor I suggested do make that into a park and they were going to build a walkway. I wanted to do a catch and release. That's what other people brought up to. And because there's some big bass in there. But anyway. Yes, stop. Don't say that. But anyway. But they told me that it got turned down because the banks were too steep and they thought the industry was too steep. The liability was going to be too steep. It was too deep. They were worried about it. Now, the middle middle was too deep they were worried about a child drowning oh that would yeah so maybe we could do a designated fishing area with a fence around it but a lot of residents asked why that lake is not utilized but last conversation I had with Samantha before she departed was a problem with that lake was it was too deep that there is a Sure is deep because it's crystal clear and it's a good show bit But also y'all dumped a reclaimed water in there No, we we withdraw from it from reclaimed. We don't dump in there But also miss councilman Thomas you are correct The banks are too steep. That is part of the problem. That was the problem that gave me. But they had already mapped it around. It was exact a mile around it for a walk in. So I think that should be this guy. Yeah, that's what I wanted to go. Could we have consensus to talk about that and maybe workshop that ideal? Because I know you're saying, like, if it could be deeply deep, But I mean, I don't know how it works logistically, obviously. I don't know if that's something like can we enforce the banks? Is there something we could be to be deep but I mean I don't know how it works logistically obviously I don't know if that's something like can we enforce the banks is there something we could do to make it feasible what would that cost and I don't know just wanted something I wanted to bring up and see if we could get a consensus on that. I give approval for discussion. I've gotten at least 10 calls I'm all for it. I'm all for it. You know that. Right and where did my last thing because I know this is kind of going to get thrown to budget but I kind of want to throw this out there because I've had several residents coming, I've had several residents bring this up as well because of the last budget amendments we had. So we've made multiple budget amendments over the years because of the amount of overtime they've had to cover what the PDE for shifts. So last year they had roughly 13,000 hours of overtime. And I feel like the amount, well, I mean, I've done the math on it. Well, were you paying for an overtime would more than pay for four officers? If you put out there now to alleviate some of the overtime. So that's just. I think it's a good point and that should be brought up during the budget season. So over 800,000. So that's just something I want,'m they're working on budget right now. So I guess part of these conversations of stuff that I know budgets coming up and we're going to have to discuss budget but things get cut and added before it even comes to us. So I guess I just some of these things I want to throw out there so they know what things that are important that we are kind of like hey I want to see this in the budget if that makes sense because we can save the discussions till then but by that point in time they They may have already cut all these things from it, then we're scrambling it to add it in. So, I Just wanted to get tired. It's a lot of hours to work. I'd like to make a comment on Vice-Mayor Kills She is Listen she has four kids, but she's everywhere you saw how much she. It's amazing. It reminds me of old Game Warden. He told me one time that he covers the ground like the dude. That's what she does. She's everywhere. So it does everything. So we appreciate you very much. My rule with anything that asked me what I'm doing that day, I said always busy, always running around with you. But that's all I got. But I said I wanted to bring up those couple things because I know budget is coming. And I wanted to so that I think that's an important thing that really does need to be addressed this go round. And that's all I have. Thank you. Item 7, consent agenda. All matters, listener, the consent agenda are considered to be routine by the City Council. We acted upon by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless discussion is desired by a member of the City Council in which case the mayor will remove that item for the consent agenda and such item will be considered separately. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? Make a motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. Roll call. Councilman Rainbird. Yes. Mayor DePue. Yes. Councilwoman Gillis. Yes. Councilman Thomas. Yes. Councilwoman Davo. Yes. Item 8A. Public hearing ordinances and resolutions. 8A. First reading, order, 724-0-55. Request for rezoning 0.683 Acres PID, 853-8-0-1-0-0-0-0-2-0. And 853-8-0-1-0-0-0-0-2-1. Located on the north end of Jones Fish Campro from Volish County Resource Port or RC and Volusia County Resource Quarter Water. R6W to the City of Edgewater mixed use plan unit development, MUPD, Edgewater River Oaks. Please read into the record. Ones number 2024-O would ask 55 in order to screen in the change and to any classification from Volusia County RC and RCW to mix use plan unit development, MUPD, or 0.683 plus amount of safety and service of no property, the general located east of South Ridgewood Avenue, north of Jones Beach Camp Road, parcel ID numbers, 85380100220 and 85380100221, many of the officials only met with the city of Batchwater, for provision and several building and for the building, for an effective day recording and adoption. Thank you, staff report. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is a first reading for ordinance 2024-0-55. It's a rezoning for 0.683 plus or minus acres. This has been before you guys several times before. We've brought forward the annexation, which is on the second reading, which was table tonight, and the conference of plan amendment, which was also on second reading, which was table. What staff is asking is to move the item forward to a second reading, so that staff can bring forth the PUD amendment, and for the council to hear all four items at once, staff cannot put on the PUD amendment until the rezoning goes to second reading. And I know there's been a number of times where the council has requested to see the language regarding the mangroves, which is in there, but again, staff cannot bring the agreement until the rezoning has moved forward. With that staff is recommending approval to move the first reading of ordinance 2024-0-55 from a first reading to a second. Thank you, Ryan. So just one more time. So we cannot put any language to the main grows if it's not moved forward to a second reading. So this one's a little awkward because of the way that we originally did it. So when we originally did the entitlements for this, I'm going to take a step back. When we originally did the entitlements and got rid of the two condo buildings, the two 14-story condo buildings, we left out these two parcels. That was an error based on the survey. So that would come back forward. They want to do a PUD amendment, but we have to rezone we have the annex Complain rezone everything that PUD amendment is typically adopted not by ordinance. These are all adopted by ordinance And so that only has one reading before council. However all these other items have two readings And so in order to have that one item come up for this We obviously have to to have it going towards a rezoning, otherwise it would make no sense to not. Because the rezoning is what adds it to the PUD, and then the PUD amendment is what the council is wondering about regarding the mangroves, and then the developers ask regarding the height of the dry stack storage. Great. Thank you. Just at the catch up. Correct. I'm in a public hearing citizens comments. Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Members of the council. For the record, I'm Mark Watts with the law firm of Cobb Cole, 231 North Woodland Boulevard, D'Land, and I'm here on behalf of the applicant and I appreciate Ryan's explanation. It was a good one. There's kind of four moving parts and pieces at the moment and really what you're asking you to do is let us all get them all scheduled onto one agenda. You've heard this in bits and pieces at some of your prior meetings and approving this on first reading won't approve any final action. But it will allow us to come back on June 2nd with the annexation, the land use amendment, PUD rezoning ordinance, and then the actual amendment to the PUD document to incorporate some of the language that you've requested at some of your prior meetings with regard to the mangrove protection and also with working with Riverside Conservancy on the design of the shoreline improvements that are done there. So we have had good meeting with Kelly McGee and Dr. Litoowicz look at what they've done with their facility and we've talked about how that could be applied to the marina and the shoreline in this area to preserve the existing mangroves to take out the invasives and you know develop an appropriate planting plan moving up the shoreline from the mangroves so that we don't just have the mangroves preserved but you also have wetland, you know, appropriate well and species and other shoreline species that are there similar to what they have at the Riverside Conservancy Office. So, happy to answer any questions you might have. I think the way this came to you last time, the annexation was the first thing in recall. 99% of this property is already in an approved MPUD. This is just catching up this .683 acre piece of the shoreline. but at the same time we're proposing to add that language that I think you talked about with regard to how we design and move forward with the shoreline. So happy to answer any questions you might have. Thank you. Let's open it up to citizens comments and then council comments. Okay. So one of the things that I had was, so basically I'm very glad that you reached out to Riverside Conservancy. They're a great organization here in town. Kelly McGee is wonderful. She worked for the county for a while. She's a doctor known on a national level. We're really blessed to have them here in our community. They're local right in our backyard on Riverside Drive, a really trust or opinion in judgment. You had a lot of great conversation with her. She said that she trusts your opinion and that you'll work with a conservancy. One of the things that they just stated and would like to have is that you would make a contract with them that they could maintain the national's shoreline and possibly consider entertaining that contract with the Riverside Conservancy and possibly using the suggestions that they give to you guys because we have a tremendous group here in town and they know all about the shoreline and how to move forward. I guess that has to be written in the language for second reading. Correct. And right now we have language that we've proposed that would come to the in the agreement at your next meeting that talks about coordination through the Riverside Conservancy for the design of the shoreline. One of the things we also talked about is working with them on grant. Grant applications for like it's the Stan Mayfield working waterfront grant which also would require that a portion of the property be set aside into conservation and that there's educational opportunities on site for the public. So both to Riverside directly and to provide them with some promotional opportunities and education opportunities. We've talked about some space in the ship store. That's part of the what's already part of the approved PD To let them promote themselves, have parts of the proceeds from the sales of materials go to them as well to support their efforts. But also maybe tie in that grant opportunity through the state with regard to the shoreline. So I think there's a lot of really good opportunities. We appreciate that suggestion at the last meeting. I think it was back in March or February. But good conversation. I think that's the language that I think you'd want to see in the PD moving forward. So we can make sure it's tweaked to reflect what you've stated. Thank you. Any comments? I think it's fantastic that it's moving forward in such a positive way. and I appreciate you reaching out to Kelly McGee. She's fantastic. She's great. I worked with Kelly for years at the county. I think I's fantastic that it's moving forward in such a positive way and I appreciate you reaching out to Kelly McGee. She's fantastic. She's great. I worked with Kelly for years at the county. Yeah. And so, partnering with her is wonderful and she's gonna make sure that that organization will make sure that you know we're doing it the right way and I appreciate you working with her and I have a book with Kelly Law. I'll make sure I reach out to her tomorrow and to thank her for her visitation. And she loves, you know, Boucher County. Very passionate and she's a work for the county. Any further comments? She just doesn't make sense to have it hanging out there. Somebody else is controlling. I said that. I mean, it's like having five fingers, and they don't only cut four fingers now, when you got a lead, they're hung out there, and I cut it. So just for the record, we have the, Ryan, this question for you, and Mr. Wolf, we have the ability to, to rectify how this shoreline is moving forward. And can we make a contract saying that they have to work with a concern? So the language we have right now says they're going to work with and coordinate with them. As far as doing a contract, we could make that request in the pod itself. Obviously, whether or not the developer would accept that condition, because they would be contractually agreeing to only utilize them for wetland, fauna, flora. So I can look at that, and we can get back to the developer. Typically, we want to do contract things like that, but we can do that. It's not unusual in a PD. The way I'll support it is if that's, I mean, they're just in our backyard. We have have to utilize them. Is there, is there any opposition to that? I know you probably have to speak to your client. Well, I think we also need to speak with Riverside, because we need to make sure they're comfortable with what we're putting in there as well. Because obviously a contract, I mean, you can require a contract of us, but it doesn't compel them. And so I think we need to between now and coming back on the second, we can reach out to them and see what kind of form of language they're comfortable with. But that can be done on the next reading. Yes. So the Riverside to Services is going to be like the Ombar. Make sure the rules are being combined. The media. Correct. Okay. So going back to when we first heard this on planning and zoning. I remember correctly because a lot of people are asking, you're main intention with the mangroves. You want to add vision barrier correct? You're going to add to the mangroves. Everybody's like you're going to put the mangroves out. No, you said you're going to add. You're going to get out the invasive species. Correct. Yeah, so the design, if you recall that, from BNZ or when we've been here before, there are two dock crossings of where the mangrove areas are. Everything else is maintained as it is and restored. So there's Brazilian pepper in there now that needs to be removed. They've actually done some of that work to remove that. So the plan would be to come back in, work with the conservancy. So it is, you know, I think you don't necessarily want to go back and put mangroves everywhere, because even if you look at their property, there's mangroves, there's saltwater marsh, there's other appropriate vegetation as you go up into the uplands. And so that's the plan that we want to coordinate with them, so that they're helping us design where the additional mangroves, so yes, additional mangroves would go in, but other materials as well, all native species and all the perpry for the shoreline. And then we've even talked about going into the aquatic side, adding in oyster beds and seagrass as other things that would be appropriate to plant in that area. I do have another question because I'm going to keep myself, I don't ask this one. So the big thing is you guys want it to be annexed in. So there's something that's got to come with that other than just having everything belong to edge water. What is the angle here? What can not be done? There's got to be something they can't do that they want this to come in so badly that. There's really not here other than it requires a duplication of effort. In other words, so if we essentially, as it sits right now, half of a marina has to be, or half of the dock area with the slabs have to be permitted as part of our site plan with the city. And the other, a part of the rest of it has to be permitted with the county. And so by doing this, it puts us all in one jurisdiction and allows us to stream on that old process so that we can deal with the city and do all of the permitting and design work here through the city. Thank you. Like if somebody got hurt, who shows up? County fire guys or the 55th? Well, you have a mutual aid agreement. I think so. So whoever is the closest would show up. But there is a complication there. I mean, it's, you know, I can tell you the lawyer's answer is everybody gets sued. But, you know, the reality of it is it really just makes sense if the majority of the being permitted You know through the city that all of it will be permitted through the city And so that's what we're seeking your your approval So just clarified there's only three things in the putt amendment It hasn't brought to you yet, but going from 45 to 55 on the dry stack storage, parking 1500 to 2000 on the dry stack storage, one space for 1500, one space to 2000 is the request. And then what staff have added into the PUD amendment because those were the developers request was councils concerned regarding wetland planting, the main, what they're actually going to impact with the marine and dock. And so that is the only things on that particular piece. So raising the height of the building? The drystacks storage. Why? The height of the boats. They're not a great boat person, but they have different apparatuses now that require them to be, I guess they're taller than they used to be, because people put all these things on them. You're a fire. So that's my top point. Was there a fire? And there's a little as well. Yeah, so there's really two key things that are driving the height. We're not proposing as part of that to increase the capacity within the dry storage building. Same number of votes, but because we're trying to design the building to the 180 mile an hour windloads, it requires additional structural mechanics. And so that drove part of the increase in height. The other thing is having individual fire suppression equipment above each of the slips within the dry stack. That equipment takes up additional space as well. So between the teatops and other structures on the boats themselves and then those two additional design criteria, that's what is driving their request for the additional height, so we can design to the stronger building design. And I'm going to address this with you because this could be on your portion of the project or the other. Yes, ma'am. Or the project that I'm throwing this out there because I know I brought it up at least twice. So this will probably be my third time. Okay. The advertisement they have in front of it still shows like it's like a seven or eight story building and not a five story building. building. So I do get a lot of calls on that and I figured that's like a simple rendering that could be eventually fixed but I figure that's like a simple rendering that could be eventually fixed. Yeah, I thought that had been taken down, but we'll make sure that it's taken down. Thank you. Yeah, and that's the, so the height adjustment that we're asking to buy here would only be to the dry storage development. It wouldn't be to the dry storage. I was just bringing that up as another thing while I got you here if you follow up I will text them as I'm leaving wouldn't be to this. I know that. I was just bringing that up as another thing. Well, I've got you here. If you want to be a person, you're going to get that to the correct person. I will text them as I'm leaving. So, Ryan, to the manager of the attorney, wanting to ask you this question, this is basically second for discussion. Making a motion for a second discussion. Correct. Yeah. first reading. I mean all we're moving the item is from one reading to the next. It doesn't give them any right to do anything. They still need a second reading for everything. And that would be where we can add in reverse eye to service. So we are not approving this tonight. No, we're just moving it from first to second so that I can bring the putt amendment so that you guys can review the language and tell me then make those stipulations. So we still control this parcel land until the second reading. Well, we'll correct. Possibly control it. Correct. And it'll still be in the county until second after second reading. Correct. Until a second reading. to move it forward tonight so that the city of Edgwater can rewrite a PED agreement to potentially add Riverside Conservancy and then see if it passes or fails for annexation. Correct. Not the final vote tonight. Correct. Thank you. Okay. Is any further comments? I think our people would trust us more with this than they would trust the county. I agree and I think they would like to come to their council person for questions and concerns and they'll have to go to the county for it. We discussed that a few meetings ago when it failed and that was a big concern that I had. It should be safe. It should be remained together and we shouldn't be, you know, two different councils discussing what part of this project happens. So it makes sense. Is there a motion to approve? Make a motion to approve the first reading ordinance number 2024-0-55. Roll call. Councilman Rainbird. Yes. Mayor DePieu. Yes. Councilwoman Gillis. No. Councilman Thomasman Thomas, Councilwoman Dalbo. Yes. Item D resolution number 2025, R-10, purchasing policy. Please read to the record. Resolution number 2025-R-10, a resolution of the City of Edgewater, of the City of Edgewater Florida, updating, resetting the City of Edgewater purchasing policy, repealing all resolutions that conflict you with and provide an informed effective date. Staff report. Good evening, Mayor and Council of Bridget Vescaire, Finance Director for the City of Edgewater. What you have before you this evening is revision to the purchasing policy. The majority of the update relates to federal and state language to make it more compliant. A lot of text updates but then also in the last version of the purchasing policy update we increased the formal solicitation threshold from 25 to 50,000. Very comparable to what other cities are doing. This also includes the increasing of the lower threshold. So instead of 5,000, it goes to 10,000. And then from 15,000 to 25,000, shifting the informal and formal quotes required for purchasing purposes. So we have before you a motion to approve 2025, R-10 purchasing policy with those updates. Okay, thank you. Open of public hearings to those comments. It has to be on this particular item. Council comments. I have a quick question. Is this going to help stream my purchasing when we We something that is coming up that we need to purchase instead of having to take three or four months? It's going to help a stream line future purchases. So for the larger items, we still have to go out through a formal solicitation process. And so 50,000 and above, unless it's specifically excluded, there's a handful of exceptions that it was detailed in the budget. We're working off a piggyback or a state contract, those types of things. This is just actually streamlining the lower end of that. So for day-to- Gillis Councilman Rainbird Councilman Rainbird Councilman Rainbird Councilman Rainbird Councilman Rainbird yes Mayor DePueh no Councilman Gillis yes Councilman Thomas yes Councilman Dalbo yes item eight E resolution 2025 R-08 approving the local agency program LIPP between the City of Edgewater and the Florida Department of Transportation FDOT for the emergency traffic signal fire station 55F. The N number 453472 slash 1 slash 5A slash 01. Please read into the record. Resolution number 205-R-08, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Edgewater Florida authorizing the city manager to enter into an except you know locally funded agreement with the State of Florida Department of Transportation concerning the installation of an emergency traffic signal. The front of fire station 55 repeal and resolution is compensated with providing for severability and a prohibition and it's absent in an effective date. Public hearing, this is comments. Council comments. It's a great thing so glad we're finally getting towards the finish line. Thank you Sandy and the principal and everybody that made this come to light. Not the right time related to this agenda item, but speaking of fire, have we made any progress with the substation for 42? We gave consensus the last budget season to move forward with that substation. Just curious where we are since it is related to fire. that's the case. So we're going to have to approve the funds to remodel that house into a kind of like a substation or EMS structure. We just need to get with the city manager and start the process. I believe we're going to have to do the process for the current tenants. Not to put anybody on the street, I'm sorry to hear that but maybe we could get consensus we already voted on that to move forward with that process. I mean it's so native it's eight and half minutes to get to Quarral Trace. It's that's death. We need a substation out there desperately, especially if they do start building in Deering Park, which the ground broke already. We need a substation out there. That's all there is to it. We already have it in the budget almost a year ago. So is there consensus to move forward with the fire substation that we've already voted and approved. We'll move forward with the eviction process. Thank you and it's one can that take 90 days right? Six months, you know. What's it's sad that they had to be evicted but we had to public safety ahead and I think that they have gotten a good rate on the lease for several years. Okay, there is consensus to move forward. That is their motion to approve. Make a motion to approve. Resolution number 2 0 2 5 dash or dash 0 8. Roll call. Councilman Rainbow. Yes. Mayor Depute. Yes. Councilwoman goes. Yes. Councilman Thomas. Yeah. Councilwoman Gillis. Yes. Councilman Thomas. Yes. Councilwoman Dalbo. Yes. I'm A. F. Resolution No. 25-R-12. Creative Small Business Advisory Committee and Associated By-Law. Please reading to the record. Resolution No. 2025-R-12. Resolution No. 25-R-12. The City Council of the City of Edgewater Florida created a small business advisory committee and associated bylaws for the purpose and duties of the committee, defining the role of city staff with relation to the committee. We've got all resolutions accomplished. Council of the City of Edgewater Florida created a small business advisory committee and associated bylaws for the purpose and duties of said committee defining the role of city staff with Relations to the committee repealing our resolutions to compete with and provide important effective data staff report This is the committee that council had voted to Create so this resolution is creating the committee and the associated bylaws based on The powers and duties that council wanted for this committee. Okay. Thank you. Citizens comments? Council comments. I'm happy to see it moving forward. This committee is related to if you have a small business and there may not there may be policies that we may not be aware of this committee would meet talk about policies that need to be brought forward to the City Council to help small businesses. They can vote unanimously like as a board does such as the Economic Development Board to move a policy forward to the committee and if there is a small business, hopefully they can come in that's just started and realize the problems that each small businesses have had in the community and create a literature for the small businesses. If they're not comfortable coming to the City Council because I think only two of us, I'm not sure if these still are, are small business owners. Kind of a liaison between new businesses. Is there a motion to approve? I make a motion to approve resolution number 2025-R-12, creating a small business advisory committee and it's associated bylaws. Roll call. Councilman Rainbird. Yes. Mayor DePue. Yes. Councilwoman Gillis. Yes. Councilman Thomas. Yes. Councilman Dalbo. Yes. Item A.G. Resolution number 2025-R-13. Provide direction regarding legal issue of whether building code fees may be used to purchase floodg equipment. Please range to the record. Resolution number 2025-13 of Edgewater Florida instructing the city attorney to request an opinion of the attorney general on the matter of whether the city would be authorized to purchase flood gauge equipment using voting code fees under section 553.804 to statute provided for severability and establishing an effective date. Staff report. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The request before you is slightly strange. City staff have requested opinions from the Attorney General in the past through Mr. Wolf. The current Attorney General would like the council to approve my question before I can ask it. And so tonight, the question before you that I was proposing to the Attorney General is whether or not we can use billing code billing fees for the purchase of flood gauge equipment to establish a BFE in Florida shores. Great. Clavor ahead of it. As soon as this comments, Council comments. I think this is great and hopefully we can get the approval to move forward after you ask that question. How many did you ever find out the total number of the gauges, the cost? I'm still working with a sub-consolidant with Kim Lee Horne who's going to get me a preliminary estimate and we're kind of looking through that right now and what we're looking at are rainfall meters, flood gauges as far as depth, and then the velocity, which way the water's flowing and how fast it's flowing. This is all, you know, kind of, we did this stormwater master plan, so city staff and we are sitting on excess building reserves. And so city staff want to make those two good use. And so with the stormwater master plan, we're basically getting a computer model, so also this would help us generate data for that computer model to keep feeding it. And as you know, without data, those things become obsolete. Could you just for the record, share where the four places that you would like to put or feel it's most important to put? Yeah, I so I don't want to speak for Sean, but myself I had said that we were looking at the main link, manga line, and the canals up off a queen poem, and then the main 18th Street Canal there as well, and then the canals mostly, that run north south through Florida shores. Thank you. Thank you. Ryan, do I understand correctly the attorney general wants you to get permission from us? Yes, then the question. Correct. Yes, they have all sorts of new procedures now. I think it's new, right? Yes, new. And I think it's to limit the number of opinions they have to write. So how do you need this motion worded so that you can get a satisfactory answer? Yes. Just passing this resolution will do it. I will, if I need to ask another question, I'll come back. to come back to listen to good question. Yeah. Just passing this resolution. I will if I need to ask another question. I'll come back to this. Yeah. We make a motion to allow you to ask five questions. No, they need to be specific. Is there a motion to approve? Make a motion to approve resolution number two zero two five or a dash thirteen. Second roll call. Councilman Rainbow. Mayor DePio. Yes. Councilwoman Gillis. Yes. Councilman Thomas. Yes. Councilwoman Dalbo. Yes. I don't know. But the point is that at this time I'm on 10 other business and at this time I'm 11 office of reports 11 a city court. Um, a report on the city council. We have a report on the city council. We have a report on the city council. We have a report on the city council. We have a report on the city council. We have a report on the city council there are any would go on the ballot in November of 2026 so each council person would appoint an individual from their district to the Charter Review Committee may of course would choose someone citywide so if you all could fairly get me your choice and their contact information by June 2nd. I will then get the resolution together and get the committee together. I will probably wait to have them meet until after the new city manager starts. We will get that ball rolling. And then regarding the city manager search over the last week or so. I've scheduled 25 meetings with city council on the candidates five meetings with the candidates and staff five tours special city council meeting and an open house Thank you 11b city attorney Yes, just a quick litigation update So on the case of Ronnie Wood versus the city of Edgewater, this was a very minor accident. The plaintiff was leaving the Winddancy shopping plazin, which we were ended by a police vehicle. We have been engaging in discovery of a shoot subpoenas to all the medical providers and have attained all the medical records. And so now I'm in a position to take the plaintiff's that position and that's going to be taken on Wednesday. In the case of Paul and Deborah Kemp, this is an accident dating back to November 13, 2023. They were on Cocoa Palm Drive approaching Mariners Gate. They claim a manhole was sunk into the asphalt and they were both injured, they say, in this car. So we're in the discovery process and I'll be issuing subpoenas for all of their medical records to their medical providers. In the case of Jeremy Gottfried versus the City of Edgewater, this is a bicycle accident that occurred on allegedly 30th Street between Traveller's Palm and Umbrella Tree Drive. The plan of claims a manhole on the sidewalk was inadequately secured. The plan of fail to respond to all of our discovery requests, so I did a motion to compile discovery. I got an order granting that motion. Then the plan of attorney promptly moved to withdrawal from the case. So on April 28th, the judge allowed the plan of attorney to withdraw, but he required that the plan to either file a statement indicating they're going to proceed pro-say or have an attorney file a notice of appearance within 30 days from April 28th. So if he fails to do that and he hasn't done that yet, then I'll move to dismiss that case. And then finally, I'm asked to Lynn R. Holmes. This is of course the appeal from the final plaque denial for Edgewater Preserve Phase 2. I follow the city's response on May 15th. And then Lynn R. Holmes will have 30 days from May 15th to follow. We apply brief unless the court sets a longer or shorter time. I circulated that. Great. And that's all I have. Thank you. I got something I wanted to bring up that is going to be kind of kind of go for part Aaron and then also kind of part Jeff, but I know Jeff you're going to be talking about those laws that are moving to the governor's office once you get to that so but I don't see you want me to wait till after you discuss it but my thoughts are going to be that I wanted I knew other cities have actually moved forward to I do let's wait for him to discuss this okay because I think that I have the same feeling we'll say let's go ahead wait for for Jeff to discuss that. I don't see city manager. Respectfully I would like to draw your attention to two items I had on my memo to council city manager report. One is we will be receiving staff will be receiving an update or our some water master plan the week of June 2nd Followed by details provided the council after that that occurs also late, but not forgotten Well, help us celebrate the National Police Week 2025 it was May 11 through May 17 The theme this year was honoring our fallen, supporting our survivors. We've made mention of our police throughout this meeting and I just want to personally thank them for what they do and recognize them for, I can sleep well at night in my bed because of the things that they do and I appreciate that. I have also something to read on behalf of the city of edgewater we extend our gratitude to the edgewater fire rescue Association for 77 years of support and dedication. Since its founding in 1948, the Association has played a vital role in stirring cleaning our fire rescue services by generously donating equipment and supplies and providing access to its building and parking lot as a fire training ground for our firefighters. This partnership has helped shape the readiness of edge water fire rescue. While we are saddened to see the association to expand as of May 2025 remain profoundly thankful for the decades of service and commitment that have made lasting impact on our community. Chief would you like to expand on what that means? The Edge Water Fire Rescue Association has disbanded and they've turned over all their property over to the city of Edgwater and they what you approved tonight earlier was $20,000 donation for an all-trained vehicle that they've also purchased for us. The last all-trained vehicle they purchased for us was almost 15 years ago. So it's, it's need to be replaced. So it will be sorely missed. They made a lot of the money through Bingo and so they really helped support us with things that we typically, typically don't ask the city to buy us like dress uniforms and things like that. So they were there for us for a long time. You know, everyone's getting older and moving away or wherever they're going to, you know, the big mountains or wherever they're going. But so it's sad to know that they're leaving, but they left us, you know, in a good condition, a condition. They didn't sell anything anything from out from underneath us so we still have the facility for training for the fire department that was a big concern of mine was I didn't want to lose that because we don't have a place to train we're not like a edge water PD and it was click quick claim deed it it was quick claim everything's been turned over to us that's great news wow so so So if you run into someone that you knew from the fire associate, please shake their hand to say thank you. So that be a community center. That's yet to be determined and talked about. Great. Also, Manager, you want to mention about the upgrade? Yes, I'd also would ask for a verbal approval to provide $12,750 from our fire impact fee to cover the cross of upgrades to this ATV that we were gifted to a fully enclosed unit unit better meet the needs of fire rescue. The official request will be included in the budget amendment that will be coming to council on June 2nd, but to get the ball rolling we'd like verbal consensus to move forward with that. What is the cost in it was if I could do my math this association gave the check to the dealership in the amount of $20,000 and we're asking to upgrade it and that upgrade is going to cost $12,750. Itgrade it for my students. It's brand new. You know, it's brand new. I've already just upgraded. We're wanting to upgrade it. What it is, the Association purchased one that was not enclosed. And our issue that we have is when we stand by for details. We have to put our EMS equipment on the exterior of our current ATV. We want something we can lock up where the doors can lock. and lock weak carry medications for paramedics. So it's something that is needed. It will also be air. We are of our current ATV. We want something we can lock up where the doors can lock. We carry medications for, you know, paramedics. So it's something that is needed. It will also be air conditioned to take care of patients over heat. So it's trying to make sure it wasn't from the 80s. No, it's brand new. The dealerships hold onto it and that's why I've asked the city manager to kind of step it up because they've received the 20,000 with a promissory from me that we're going to upgrade it. Great. I give my approval, is there consensus for that? Thank you so much, thank you. Also, I attended the Voluci County Electrophicials round table that was held on the 12th and they brought forward the county attorney office not forward a briefing on three different Senate bills. I've adapted that presentation to also include SB 784 but I'd like to briefly review SB 1080, 1730, 180, and 784. That's all. SB 1080 talks about land rate. All of these are to my understanding this afternoon was enrolled status, meaning it's been sent to the governor's office, but it's not been recognized yet to make a decision on. Each one of them are enrolled status. There are various effective dates if he signs it, or if he recognizes the bill, if he doesn't sign it in 14 days, it's adopted. So two ways for adoption it for adoption. One is acceptance. Second, accept the bill and not vote on it or not sign it and it still goes through. The SB-10E land regulation addresses what referred to as a shot clock. It narrows the time for development orders from a percent-based refund penalty for each milestone missed up to 100%. So, rain shop has a very narrow path to get some task accomplished. And there's penalties or refund of fees up to 100% if certain milestones aren't hit. Pretty close. SB 1730 deals with affordable housing or live local. This year we opted out of the tax abatement. This law does away with that. We cannot opt out of that. Limits no more than 10% requirement for mixed use developments, density, height, and floor error ratio preemption are those currently allowed or we're allowed in July 1st of 2023, whichever is least restrictive. of their other details to that as well. SB 1080 emergencies. Again, this is in road. details to that as well. SB 1080 emergencies. Again, this is enrolled. The effective date of this if it passes will be come law at signing or 14 days after. Unlike the other ones, there's October, July, but this one specifically will take effect at signing. Each county in Mississippi in federal disaster declaration for Hurricane Debbie Haleen, Milton may not propose or adopt any moratorium on the construction reconstruction or redevelopment of any property damaged by hurricanes. More restrictive or burdensome amendments to its comprehensive plan or land development regulation. More restrictive or burdensome procedures concerning review approval or issuance of a site plan, development permit or development order. This is retroactive back to August 1st of 2024 and last until October 1st, 2027. Future hurricanes preemptive more restrictive or burdensome land regulations processes for one year after hurricane makes landfall for the county and its municipalities listed in a federal disaster declaration to located within 100 miles of the track of the categorized hurricane. Another section requires each local government to post information on its website FAQ, disaster supply list, flood zone information, et cetera. Each government shall develop a post storm permitting plan to expiate recovery in real building, a special building permit and inspection procedures. SB 784 deals with plating. Again, this is in the road status. And if approved or signed, the effective date will be July 1st. Requires C counsel to designate by resolution, a member of city staff to approve plans. Mandates administrative approval plans and replats if they meet the requirements of Florida statues Thank you Mr Mayor Can I ask the article were you done? Yes, sir? Can I ask the city clerk that if she have any dates on the One we're going to interview the city, the future city manager, you have the dates that we're going to interview those. June 10th and 11th, the special meetings on the 11th, I provided you with your schedule. Pardon me. June 10th and 11th. Can't attend the 11th. I provided you with your schedule. Okay, what about the upcoming workshops that we talked about having? I will work on those. Okay, so you don't have any dates on that yet? Not off of you, I'm sorry. Okay, I talked to Mr. Storch this morning and he wanted to have a workshop on Deering Park. Does anybody know anything about that? Nobody's contacting me. I saw him out in the bound. He's stated to do it, but I don't think he's ever contacted the city to have a date. I saw him last Tuesday. He spoke about him and the Deering family wanting to do that, but I don't think it's been brought forward in the city. Okay. All right. The only days we haven't is the 10th and 11th for the city manager of GM. Correct. That's the 25 meetings that I just scheduled in the five meetings with staff and the five tours and the special meeting in the open house. Thank you, ma'am. We have a meeting this week with um, Deering Park and we'll definitely be discussing that workshop for that education session. Can you also please provide an update on the wetland park? Sure. Okay back to discussion of the bills. I mean it's just pretty much I believe in small government. I think the smaller government the better. I don't think that the state should have control over local municipal governments or the county and the remaining municipal government. Doesn't this take these are stepping in? What are we here for? It doesn't. Doesn't this bill is like a bunch of stuff. It's hard to keep up with what they pulled out. They want to get rid of the planning zoning boards. They want to get rid of agricultural zoning in the state of Florida. I don't know what they've been passing around up there, but I'd like to get consensus from this council for real. It's like they all want to get unelected or something, but I'd like to. Well, they keep pushing back the legislation dates as well. Yeah, they can't agree. They're going to January. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can get that done. Let's see if we can't, I'd like to get consensus. We asked the city manager on behalf of the city, write a letter to the governor, opposing this bill all hard to the people for the people not just edge order but this whole this is insanity. I think it will be the best one to be each bill individually as well because we just talked about several bills that are all causing problems. I agree I agree with everything. Is there a consensus for that? I agree. Is there a consensus yes? Several other municipalities are doing it as well. I'm 12, Mr. Sui. I'm sorry, Mr. Sui. I took Martin to a five, Cherrywood Lane Edge water. I've got a couple questions. I think I might know the answer. I'm not sure. But Annex and that little bitty piece of property where they want to put their dock. If if you guys do that, somebody follows off the dock and gets hurt. We didn't approve the Anne annexed tonight and that would be. Yeah, it's just something to think about. Also the height of restriction and edgewater used to be I think two stories or something now. I think I missed something along What's the building building have a lot of time to do it. But if they can go five or seven stories and we don't let everybody else go five or seven stories and once a building building, I mean Mr. Cityman or Mr. Attorney maybe can answer what we open ourself up for lawsuits. Is that that happen? No, this is a special property. It was previously, I believe it was approved for 14-story condominiums. So if anybody wanted to do another condo and edge water, they would have to have a special exception. It's not allowed for our city charter. That property was actually changed our city charter. Local super city. I'm missing something here so they can they can go tall but nobody else can. So how about I. Go ahead. I asked this question. So the city charter specifically in the city charter. It says no building will be higher than 35 feet east of US 1 if it's residential. The subject development on Jones fish camp, despite it being a hotel is commercial in nature under our zoning code. That's a commercial classification. So they are allowed to build to that taller height than because it's not under that classification of residential. Okay. Thank you. So if other hotels want to come and they can do the same thing, right? In this case, so by right on US one in the B3 highway commercial, it's 45 feet right now. This pud was developed with 60. So by right people only have a right to do 45 Okay, thanks Thank you sir for your comment Hi, I'm Mandy Bullard 1417 needle palm So I kind of wanted to address Mr. Wolf if I could is that allowed? Okay, so I don't think that the citizens of Edgewater are out for your job. I think that we're all really confused and really scared, and we've had a lot of things happen that seem wrong. They feel wrong, they feel illegal. And it's great that we have never been sued, but have we ever sued for our homes flooding. We know that these homes have been here for, my neighbors have been here for 60 years, have never flooded and flooded twice in a couple of years after a lot of development. So I guess maybe a little more transparency. I don't know if that's something that you're allowed to do, but I think that people are just scared that if bad things happen or that people do not, or developments do not keep their word, we are stuck with what we have. And when we ask questions and we say, this is bad and we don't like this and we don't want this, it's none of your job, it's none of your responsibility. You passed the buck, it was before us. The only person whose face is consistently here is yours. And that doesn't mean that it's your fault. It just means that you were here when it happened, so maybe you could elaborate on why we can't go after them, why we can't see them, why water's leaving their property and coming onto ours, and there's nothing to be done about it. I would also like to address Debbie. You seemed appalled that citizens, comments, and concerns would change what is going on in the city, and that we are running the city. But that is your job as a representative, is to be our voice. So you really should not be appalled by our voices, make changes, and giving concerns. So that's really all I have. Thank you for to do with the work that we have done. I have a lot of work to do with the work that we have done. I have a lot of work to do with the work that we have done. I have a lot of work to do with the work that we have done. I have a lot of work to do with the work that we have done. I have a lot of work to do with the work that we have done. working to correct a problem. Many of you may already know Aquapart is home at the Kudas swim teams, a place where many in this neighboring communities have learned or are currently learning to swim, a place where many come to participate in water aerobics classes, lap swimming, a fun parties, for union celebrations, and last but not least a place where many come for aqua rehabilitation therapy. As you can see, not only are the residents of our community affected, but also the residents for many neighboring communities. So again, aqua park and I thank you for what you did tonight. That helps us. Thank you for your comments and all that Aquapark does. Okay, we are adjourned.