That's not the only the largest was snow behind the agenda, but I will put up and remind myself because I've slept a few times since then. I think there was possibly also a resolution from the Council on the zoning request. Yes, thank you so much for that reminder. Yes, we should have been meeting with that. That was this last one, February 25th. That's 24th. It was. Yes, thank you so much for that reminder. Yes, we were meeting with that. That was this last one. February 25. That was 24. It was. Yes, we received a request from a group who was a making application to the state of Texas to the Texas Department housing and community affairs. But one of their 9% tax credit housing programs where they provide funding to a region and applicants can from across that region can make application to try to see the art of the plans that are allocated for particular region and we're in region 13 three, three, three, three, three. And so a group selected a piece of property across the street as well as have it next door to the Jackson property, ask the location for their request and they asked for a resolution of support from the city council and the city council did not create their request and they instead agree with the resolution of most work. And so that was signed and transfers to the applicants and they would include that in their application packet for the funding request. And was there a resolution on the track with public credit trust in January? In January, earlier in the month, I think this. That's been since our last meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, there's nothing has happened. Everything was denied by the same council, related to the bless, and I think it should be. back. So, so now you will proceed on into. That was more or less of a as a agenda. I don't know. A bit of an update on city council activity. So I think that goes under 3A. What would we say about 3C? 3C. Okay. So you have been threatening you. So you can refer to me tonight that draft of 2025 Comprehensive Plan update. And two of your numbers, Wyoming and Thomas have served on the comprehensive plan sharing committee since it was formed in 2023. If you believe them plugging away at this project for quite a while now. The components of things here in committee is made up council member weaver, calm and lame. Members of the ARV including Jackson Thompson and Richard Anderson. And then two members of the economic development corporation municipal benefits corporation corporation, might still investigate this in Scott Dodson. During the time the Comprehensive Plan, the Chair and Committee was formed, there was a council election, and Scott then became a council member and has a nine-owner committee. And we've also had Katie Gyer, the park foreshared on the committee and several staff members. David, myself, J. Ares, our finance director, Richard Dormire, our city engineer and Ryan Cree, our public work district attending in Suzanne for it as well. So during the time that the committee's informed they met many times and looked over all of the content of the 2018 plan and spent some concerted efforts going through chapters one through six and that's what's in front of you tonight. So I wanted to just point out a few things. On the second, when you open up the cover, to first page you're going to see that says no. Before reviewing this draft, please note, and I've got some instructions on there. But before I talk through that, I would like to present what we are hopeful that the planning and zoning commission will participate in. And that is to review these chapters that the comprehensive line steering committee has reviewed, revised, thoroughly vetted with the fine tube count and all deported to them and willing to describe from your perspective, perhaps what the work of the Canadian has been. And then if you guys want to chime in now then you're done, I will talk through moving the draft from tonight through your approval process and then onto the city council as a general. Yeah. First and term. First off, thanks for the opportunity to serve and help. One one thing that I think the best thing to describe was I thought we had a good group from a variety of viewpoints. And one of the things that we did, and I brought my notes from all we did each week when we met, is we went through paragraph by paragraph. And we didn't try to rewrite the plan, but what we tried to do was enhance the plan to add things that we've seen from B&C and City Council, I love it, we're in over there and so forth, of issues and things that came have come up over the years that need some refinement, need and additions. And I think that was some of our big focal points and some strengths of that. And to find some of the maybe things that just weren't quite clear or needed some refinement to it. And I think the biggest thing that occurred is that we had a good cooperation of employees from people. And I think this new plan is just significantly stronger than our old plan that we currently have with us in 2018, I think we've added a great deal to it. So my take was that there was good participation, there was good interaction, and that I think the plan has a lot more strength and answered some of the questions that we've seen come up over the years. I know between City Council and PNC. And I'll just add on to that, I agree with Tom. It was really a good diverse group with a lot of input. Everyone attended most all the meetings. So there was good participation. Aaron did a wonderful job kind of steering all of that in the right direction. The biggest thing in my mind and the biggest outlet on this is that we try to take the concepts that we've heard at the P and Z here, at least Tom and I have, and create a comprehensive plan that has certain themes in it going forward. Larger lots, more open spaces, more parks, figuring out ways that we can strengthen our ordinances, put the language actually in the ordinance itself to give us better control. Something to say, there's a particular way eventually, but we tried to address those concepts, traffic, infrastructure, control, traffic congestion, planning way ahead in the future for the kind of community that we want to see here in the heat, based on comments from the public and a lot of the public hearings that we had. And that's what we've tried to put in this comprehensive plan. And I think we did a really good job and really good job really good job of coming up and hitting those concepts, encouraging larger 3.0 lots rather than the smaller plots beyond just creating a plan to get the appropriate infrastructure that we need to handle the growth that we're going to have and also handle the track for that we're going to have. So I think it's a good plan. So the wait, I Tom held up his notes and so what you have in front of you tonight is, you'll see there's a yellow post-it note. Behind that yellow post-it note, in the packet, the thick packet that you have, is the red line markup version of the 2018 plan. And so this is going to show all of the edits that the committee works on. You'll see things that are sharpening, you'll see added text, and then you'll see some things that are highlighted in yellow. In this 2018 set that you have, the things that are highlighted in yellow in there are mostly related to demographic things that have not yet been updated. The staff is still working on updating the demographic tables. and once we have that finalized, we will correct the references that are in paragraphs that refer to those demographics. And also we're working with our GIS consultant and associate to update the mapping that's in the document. So where there are references to maps, we're going to confirm the accuracy of those and those are highlighted in the LRN humor. The front portion of the document begins with a new cover, some new cover art Suzanne's group created this to represent our position. as a premier outdoor lifestyle community, and you're gonna seek you out the plan as you read it. References to each of these activities that are depicted on the cover. The lake, of course, and its impact on the community and things that recreation amenities that pertain to the lake, as well as large developments that include private recreation like the golf course you see here, and then question again, which is a up and coming focus for heat and which that's right in line with our commitment to open space and traffic, minimization, and rural characters. On the second page is that note that I referred to, and it's just to tell you that this draft, you haven't found a view, it's the first six chapters of the plan. And it's what you may be spending all their time reading every single word and really analyzing and digesting the intent of specific sentences. And does this sentence, what does it mean? Is it something that we should continue doing? Have we already done it? And it can be struck. Or do we need to supplement it based on new experience, a new information that we've learned as common to these public hearings? So these chapters are really, as it says in the now, this is the need of the plan. This is the vision, the character repeats, describes, and also it's what you're going to see, the goals, the objectives, the recommendations, and implementation strategies. The table of contents is included here, but it has not been updated, and we will not not update that until we make the documents way through your action. And after you act on the document then the staff will go back and if there are any recommendations or e-guysclive typos or changes this can certainly change the page numbering of the document. So anyone we add in the demographic references that could that will all That will alter the page number also. So we're waiting to update the table of contents until after those things are accomplished. Some of the yellow highlighted things are related to tables and the tables in the new draft are a lot of those are empty. And that's because we are pulling from Cat the Caw, those numbers and compiling updated versions of those tables. The committee early on considers a few different sources of demographic data. They looked at the text systemographer. They looked at Esri to the C and shows to go with the cob data, which is also consistent with the data set that was used in the fire station planning document and it's also what we use to store it quickly when we push out demographic information on the ADC website and other planning documents. So let's see. The next note on here is that the staff is also, as I mentioned, working with our GIS consultant. There are a number of maps in here that just need to be updated a bit. The base map needs to include all of the new subdivisions that have been approved since 2018. And then of course the existing land use map and some other references to the ETJ and things like that need to be confirmed and updated. There's a note on the last page of chapter six. And it's going to tell you that at the end of the draft, the chunk of the draft you have, there are going to be more pages and those pages are being prepared by the staff and they will be included in the final draft document that's going to come to you for final decision on April 1st. And those pages are going to include recommendations matrix, which you're going to see a version of that in the 2018 plan. You look back and look at your approved coffee of the 2018. It has a recommendations matrix in it. And the community at the beginning of their process, that multiple meetings going through the 2018 recommendations and sorting those recommendations and just some categories we looked at what has already been done. So we created a list of those things that we could strike from the plan update. Then we looked at things that are underway or in process, in progress. And then things that recommendations that were not yet begun. We spent time on those list recommendations really discerning why haven't they been done yet this is the still a valid recommendation. And many of them were still about it. So those you'll see those were carried forward into the topic that the staff will be basically cutting and pasting. We're going to cut the recommendation or copy and paste rather copy the recommendations in chapter four and chapter five and Pace those into the recommendation matrix and assign the crop or other implementation that you You'll see that full table In the final graph that comes for you And then the other thing to start this will be on is chapter seven which is the append. And the appendix will retain the same format and as what is included in the 2018 plan was just with updated data. So we're taking that drawing by line, David and I are working together on that to update that appendix, which includes a demographic snapshot, existing land characteristics, development patterns and some a few maps that they take our current conditions. So the drafts that you have here, the new draft, what's the demographic updates and the map updates will be presented back here at your regular meetings on April 1st for final consideration and action. But that's not the last, that's not the next time that we are hoping to meet with you to go through the stock. Tonight, the intention is to deposit this in your hands and give you a couple of weeks to read it over. And we want to schedule on Thursday, March 13th and work session with the commission where we can go, you will have had a couple of weeks to read through the documents I've been and we can sit together around the table in the conference room like our committee good, and we can talk through your observations as you read the document. The substantive chapters. Take chapters one, two, six. So we would like to do that workshop as early as can work for the commission. So we anticipate it'll be several hours long to the committee many meetings to go through the update. So there's part of that is substantive content here. And I'd love to hear from the commission. When you what time would work for you guys to meet for that workshop? And then answer any questions that you have about them. The process for developing the draft and then the process for getting it from here over the bench. So first of all, what time, was the 13th work and what time for you? Thank you, sir. Next, Thursday, next. One of the things that we did, and that has to be we we always scheduled our meetings from 6pm to 8pm. And that's the more pretty good from a time standpoint, a people a chance to get here and an air and devil, great job of sticking to 8 o'clock. The only exception was our last meeting that we had. We wanted to finish and so we went a little late. But prior to that, we were pretty good from 6.8 and up on that time, slot was good for us. If I had a choice, I'd have her put the 12 second one. Where's the eight o'clock? It was. Check. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go. You say three. And then we'll test the water. If we finish, we finish, and if we down, then if you guys are in it to win it, we can stay or keep on a schedule of all the session we think you've got to. I think I'm available. I have an old fashion paper calendar, and so there's one to the photo of that. So, but I think I'm available. I have an old fashioned paper calendar and so I've got to the photo of that so but I think I'm available on Thursday and I'd be available in the evening my preference for probably 90 am or something during the day but that I don't know if that for work schedules for anyone else. But I didn't know if you had in mind that daytime meeting or evening, but no, I didn't. I defer to what works for the kitchen. We love daytime meeting or evening. No, I didn't. I defer to what works for the kitchen. We love daytime meetings because we love going home. We will work. We'll work around what works for you guys. Here we have a take line area of pills, meetings scheduled at 12th. I actually give conversation might move it, but it's a by-managed stone. We could meet concurrently that we would just move our meeting into the meeting. So we have a lot of other things. You know, I'd be in favor of, you know, some sort of split there between what Mike said, you know, in afternoon meeting, we get us out of here and still have our evenings again. On either the 12th or 10th, I would say, to bury your three in the afternoon, is that a possible way to bring one? It's up then. Yeah, I can do it every minute. It's just better at night. But it's like some more of the fun that has new measures. Third, she's always going to be in the middle of the mission. So, if we do an afternoon meeting, I'd have to do the 12th and 13th. Oh, yeah. Okay. You're stuck. Well, we can call that tomorrow. Normally, we'll call all of you guys. Okay. We'll just we'll hit the most availability slots. Of course, case like you can also extend it through zone if you need to do it. Yeah, that's what I mean. In terms of time compression. I mean, thinking next week versus the week after next because processing. Yeah. Yeah. If you don't feel like you need to much time. Again, what works for you guys? If you have the bandwidth to read it and absorb it, faster than the 12, then we're good with that too. I think it'd be better together by coming up town and looking at it and telling my notes. There. There's a lot of you seeing from first time. So you have the red line version. Some people actually view off of red lines. So you have that included in here. The way I envision perhaps you using that is when you when you're reading through the final draft, and you get to a highlighted portion, and you want to remember perhaps what it said in 2018 plan, then you can go back to the red line version and look at section up and see the changes that were made. Some of them have notes. Most of the notes are performating notes, but not sessions and notes. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go to the next one. I'm going to go a quick question. We have a quick question back on Thursday after me. I can't do Thursday. 13th Thursday after me and I cannot. What time can you do? What time can you do? 5 minutes. It would have to be. especially it would have to be very late afternoon. I mean, it'd be closer to five months. Five years. What is it? Yeah, 30 seconds left out. When is it? Why open? Would you rather do an afternoon in the evening because I was your done? Just trying to pull it out so that we don't get it. Yeah. Offer in some evening, you can lie down. Like what you thought. So you know, you said you were some fellow long mates. You sound like, you're like, what the heck? I think I prefer to do it in the day. Just to get the evening to the kid with the let me say it, let you. In the white. Well, in the salon, I've got another second. I could do it in afternoon. You know it. Once you have it in time. For me. Let's go for 3pm on Wednesday. Let's say it's going to be a little bit. 12. Right. Right, right? 3pm. We'll run through here to you. We'll never copy for the answer. And then we get pretty good for a focus at child and the evening. Take line of heels for a time that's six. It says six, but I really believe that we're in the week. We're in the week two. Two different. We shouldn't have to bust. We're going to take bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going to the bus. We should be going 1910. If I could make a suggestion, and I hope it's taken in the light that's meant to present our best meetings, and we have a lot of meetings, but our best meetings were when our committee members came and had read ahead and prepared the ad notes, and we're ready. I thought they were our best meetings. Yeah, where we clicked to pay for hey, everybody was ready. I thought those were really good because people had already brought their notes and asked questions and rather than go on, put my hand on right. Yeah. I agree Tom. And to that point, you would just began and when you sit down at three o'clock on Wednesday, the 12th, you just began on page one, it's a huge summary and we kind of like book club. Anybody notice me clean on page one that you want to know and then we want to see. Okay. Can I get the, uh, what to him? Absolutely. We'll send it to everybody. Um, you want the final draft or the red one? Yes. Or both. Right. On. And one thing I just want to comment on. I don't be talking a little bit about this. The past, the concrete in the plan is a document that we aren't able to talk about and have it influence our ability to recommend a group of denial of any given application. But it's not something from a legal perspective as I understand it. That's the issue. of that occasion, but it's not something from a legal perspective as I understand it. That's the issue when you use word of defense, but it's not something, it's not like a war means. You say you know you're violating ordinance, right? So with that as a framework, I would suggest that we look at the comprehensive plan or read the comprehensive plan with a thought toward what ordinances might we want or need to be able to enforce the plan or support the plan from a legal perspective because a plan itself could say something but that doesn't mean that we could use that as a legal reason to deny something for it. That's an excellent point and we talked about that in the steering committee and the staff is working on that. They've taken the changes that we're recommending and they're looking at all of our ordinances to determine what we can actually put into your ordinances specific language. Can I just say today I just have a perhaps what's good example? Yeah, it's a very different problem and not in the language I think. Yeah, reading this kind of read. So that's excellent. That's a good example of the kind of thing that I think we ought to be thinking about as we read the entire plan because I'm going to turn up the contrast here and say, this is a guideline, but it doesn't have a team. Right. I'm thankful that you mentioned that, Joe. And for the benefit of the audience, the comprehensive plan is a guiding document. It gives direction, sort of, that is the course that we should be on, except the course we should be on, where the importance is that Joe is referring to. That's the rule, those are the, that is the law that the city must follow. And so the way to be changed that rules in that law. Those have to inform with the comprehensive plan. City of Texas requires that to be so. So this is a very important document for for that reason. We have encountered at the commission and at the council. As we've been brought in for the you and consideration, especially zoning cases that carries so much discretionary decision making that the gap between the guidance and the direction of the plan and what's actually written in the rule book has, has, there's something that the committee felt like we needed to tighten that gap, to shrink that gap so that what we are saying we're about in a comp plan to the best of our ability becomes quickly codified in our rooms. I would like one comment's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. So, for instance, say someone has a piece of property that's got one of our current zoning classifications and says that they want to change it to a different zoning classification. If that's not what's on the future land use map, then you really do have a basis to use the health rates of planism. What is that? Very I'm not sure if I very valid amount. Absolutely. That's the first checkpoint actually when somebody makes an application. Does this comply with the future linkage map? That's part of the data. It's our first schedule. We look forward to talking to you about this one next week. I agree. And I want to move on to 3D and you probably talk to us again here in a long week. But I requested this item to be added that blue. That's why it's here, David. To discuss recent memories to building from this chapter one, three and chapter one, 58. times I get my news, like you could banish in a way, you know, two or three days later by finding out what happened at City Council because, you know, I wasn't going to come up here and sit through five hours ever to find out. But it's okay, I mean, as long as I stay informed, but I see it in January that there were a couple of initiatives here done that I was hoping we would get a briefing on and not just a briefing on, well, sort of how you presented it. Is that went through the agenda supplement to the City Council for those two meetings, you bladed out from the conference plan, how you moved towards making those changes to the monotony clause for building permits and that open space that we mentioned. So you want to talk to us about those two ordinances. So, do you have a specific question regarding? Well, I mean, I'm not sure that everyone, I mean, might have the commission that is fully dealing with it. And I'm not sure I'm fully familiar with it. You know, I'm not sure. I'm going to tell us how it came along and what you got on it. So I think there was a session at some point, based on the, what was current at that time, which was, when you take a look at the, hence I'm gonna not be standards in half and how that looks 200 feet. the, well, what was current at that time, which was when you take a look at the, um, anytime the not gonna be standards and how and how that looked, 400 feet, uh, was, was the standard and that's been a, that's been a standard for some time. And so when you take a look at that versus the larger watch now, the back and back, I guess I want to say back in the day yet is a 15 as a a 22, one of you may have worked to have a differing structure that may be one of you away, that could be three, four, five homes. So there is that thing. So now, but we go to one eight, there are lots, larger lots. I mean, that could be next door, or two houses down. So when you take a look at from that perspective then and trying to make the similar or dissimilarities within, but the code is trying to establish 400 feet really from the front problem line is not being that a 230 feet from behind the problem line, you're looking at having homes that could be similar in, similar to each other in a very close proximity. And so, so it was discussed on, puts the best way to handle that moving forward to make sure that we do not have homes that are similar to parents as that they're closed by. And so different cities work different ways on how they want to develop and establish that. And in this case council moved forward with going with a five-dent签ed any-put rule on that in any direction. And so what that does is whenever a bill or environment, let I crushed that by saying, that would be for any of the developments that are moving forward. But you have some developments that are out there now that are other PDs and they may have some type of anti-min and anti-min and anti-min and anti-min not be standing already within the PD, within their development standards associated with PD. Anytime that's something that staff will have to also take a look at any time we have a building permit that comes in. But moving forward as we have new developments that come in, we're gonna, yeah, it's on staff for us to make sure that the developer and shan that the homes that are coming into that particular subdivision have to meet this guidelines and how we make those as dissimilar as we have no dinner. But the language here is the same. We have two ways of making that difference. And that would be further one story to two story or dur in roof design or design elements. That's one of the criteria and then and then any two of the following would be additional criteria that we take a look at that being exterior chiral type in colors one window and improve design color and style of your roof and chiral. if you prefer, but the plan is well at variation, architecture of sound. So when you take a look at that, you look at three different forms here that could make that a dissimilar structure versus one that's that's most possible. So that's something that at the permitting step Chad will take a look at to make make sure that the bill is meeting these criteria before they can submit for the particular building plan. So we do have a five-ounce area of looks rule at this point in any direction. Okay. Okay. That's basically a modification of 153. 0.65. Yes, that's correct. Yeah. You had asked about the. The staff report, mission, the conflain, references. We were able to. The genesis of this, of the topic was related to a lot of the impact that was being received by the commission in the council relative to the periproperty development. And we were hearing over and over and over again a desire for there the uniqueness. Uniqueness came up a lot in the column of the Stettler Memorial and the kind of thing. Today, the day that it's podium. And so we went back and looked at what does our homeland have to say about uniqueness. And at the time, not me and her edictiveness. And there were once do. A couple of goals, unique development and there's long-term stability and reinvestment by ensuring that new development as you make community image continue to enhance heat image as a community of excellence and it goes on to talk in there about distinguishing heat as a city of unique attributes and then it goes on in the land use strategy to talk quite a bit about the uniqueness and throughout the land use strategy recommendations, especially during an affection on residential diversity and uniqueness. There's a recommendation. This is one of the reasons people stayed within a community is that they consider their property a major bit unique. So that value of the community translates in the property value and long-gerting for residents. And then it goes on. And recommendation 4.3 requires each development to provide properties that have a certain number of unique amenities. And so we were just kind of keen on each of these references to uniqueness as a evaluation of what we were hearing from the community as well. Continue to implement the city's established residential and time and not make standards. And you know, so that to James point there were many references in the 2018 plan that spoke to this topic and then also that version of the plan included some online survey, community surveys and to give them houses and the plan presents a summary of the end that came from those surveys and those open houses and they all spoke throughout the survey responses and the open house meetings about being interested. So, you're pointing that for that. That's okay. Okay. We'll less further any questions about to that particular building. Right. Right. But in areas of the city's discretion and control over the way the building occurs. several different levels for it to occur. And this building permit is pre-party on the road. I mean, but at that point in time, there's already good, you know, zones that sell the city's going to agree with the developer about, you know, what's going to go in terms of streets and sidewalks and amenities, you're getting down to what's actually going on the lot. And within this second ordinance that came in, it was at some division level. And if you have a look down, it is easy enough to go into the city's ordinances and get to the subsection that includes, what is it, 158? It includes all of the general provisions that have to be accomplished before you can subdivide. And that's where we added the Parkman dedication ordinance about eight years ago. And then, so this is, what we're in there recently. Tree preservation is in the same area. And so you'll explain how this open space will affect future subdivision. Sure, absolutely. So the paper that we're looking at doing, you know, and as you've been getting that, we sit, and as you've been getting that we sit down and talk to a developer that's a long process. This has been indicated. And the course that we want to do that during that process is only about anti-monopathy standards that's certainly with an average, very low with the sit with us, but also that open space. You know, that goes into our trails our parks and trail system you know one when you have a developer come in that's part of the discussion that we sit down and have with that developer that will be number of lots having to design that but also you know what do they have as far as our parks and trails that is there a trev that needs to be along that property are they providing a park system or they're going to be a community park there. Depending on the number of lots that's also going to get how much open space that's going to be within that. So what we're looking at with what GH-25 is to make sure that every lock that's within that subdivision at the time to sit down with them, that at-colliminary supply is to make sure that that that trail system or that open space or apart is within 800 feet of a property. That way you have the ability to walk, it's that walkability. You know, a walk to the park and you'll enjoy the trail system or enjoy that open space. So those are the things that we would sit down with the developer talking about. So after reading the ordinance, you know, I had some questions in my own mind and I read the the minutes. I did not listen to the full discussion, but I know that there was some addition. Councilor Weaver, do you want to make a comment about this 800 foot line of sight versus how it was enriched? I think the way it's drafted might be different than what shall have a convention voted on. What do you think? You want to make an address, no? You can do it. It's all right. All right. So, just a little bit more, yes. Let's be able to describe it. It's, you know, TN, it's helping the product by the original, not only the 2018 plan, but the 2020-25 plan, which is incorporated in space into these developments where possible and making that required, because opposed to a request. The scores is the business calculation that's concerned to be able to be deliberated how that should be calculated, should be from a functionality standpoint, it should be calculated as you would walk it along the sidewalk, from a practical standpoint, in the order of trying to cut SAP, will be a slack release and a practical standpoint, where we were trying to cut staff with a slack group of practical standpoints. It's pretty burdensome for staff to get up. There's a light rule in trying to calculate every permanent wallets along some row path, or sidewalk paths. I mean, just talking to the minute straight line as it replies, still but she used their full little essence, you know, into the front of the publisher. So that's that's where the calculation methodology came from. I read what was actually submitted to you in your packet, but on the screen, it's captured. And that's what we have on two or two. But I think the room is at all decided to reach up to maybe up to the room. Just thank you. Thank you, Brian. We'll line and property line. That would be normal practice. Yes, probably we would. If we were to take a look at that or as we look at that, we would take a look to ensure that it needs that 800 foot from. recently to be 800 feet from probably like probably like could be significantly further if you're at the end of the street. So like you're you're on a street that's that's 400 feet long and then you go 800 feet and you have to go 4 to feet back again and it's 1600 feet. Right and that's a great point and so Those are things that we would recognize at the planning stage and to build a city and discuss with a developer. And that's where they've been made a change there. Where there's a trail or move apart in one place to another. So somehow make an adjustment to that and add open space or something to that effect where that change can be made. But you think it's the necessary tool. The tool is in the chest now to where when you sit down with them, you can get some sort of income in that case. 800. 800 feet is for shanty price. But it doesn't set any developer to set aside any particular amount of things. It just says open spaces would be one acre or more. Right. Right. We've been in that radius. Well, that's super bridge progress. This is to require, it looks to me like a great deal of time that ever from CitySnap. When someone has, you know, what a prospective developer bring a project to go through this in detail, make sure there's some open lines and what's going to be a very long work. You can find some basics right. If it's a handful of homes, maybe not, if it's probably the peri property. Yes, just reflecting on the peri property as an example, because we were presented live graphics we all looked at them you know they're six month period of time at least and I'm not sure that as as finally proposed it would probably be compliant with this I don't think they would have had to make any additional contributions of open strikes right because they had watched her they trusted them that went through the three pocket points well it's room. Well, the bus goes all the way around. So I think that everybody would have been with them. They had to be something right. And the trail helps you. But once again, that was a plan development that the developer was attempting to accommodate our vision of our conference plan. One of the reasons it fell through, it has not matured much, but it's just getting closer to this, this particular vision. Right. Yeah. It's going to take a great deal of planning. And we'll find that. You know, this is what the city wants. Okay? And we're find a plan. You know, this is what the city wants. OK. And we're going to develop it. We're going to develop it comes in. Those are the things that we talk about. OK. And those are the things that we check boxes that they need to meet. So there will be some accommodation there to make sure that they don't need. There's a fair or exact level would want to make sure that that's a good estate here. That's up to one person. Yeah, I can come as well. So currently we're going to develop what comes to the city staff. The building already responsible for certain calculations. They have to calculate total coverage. They're about to calculate open space calculations. Maybe what's left plain calculations? They're going to listen to calculations they must perform. I would envision this to be another calculation that we would require the developer to perform. Demonstrate to the staff that your proposed plan satisfies mis most of the priorities. Again, it's all burdened up, happy to own the staff. It can be longer than the developer. There's a pretty senseless look way. I have a short answer. How much does that? The students can require a great deal to do that. So there's a background tool that the CAD systems utilize and it we actually simplify it for them to design their open space and then they can do it even their fill buffer around their open space and any lot that's not within that buffer would would be out of compliance so they would even modify their open open space. So then they draw their buffer. It's hitting all the lots. No, no. Well, we can utilize our GIS program to do it as well. But I appreciate you looking up for us. Well, I just think it's great. I just know that, you know, some of the back over the last couple years, the city staff has been really inundated. I mean, they really have and we only have so large staff. And so I'm not against it. I think it's great great I just want to make sure that it's not and more burden To a staff so I think right now is Thanks Thank you appreciate Okay So it keeping us in mind, I think that we'll be watching for it. If there are opportunities to have an initiative through the planning and zoning commission or construction in the city staff, we look for other ways to update these development ordinances. most notably the assembly visual arts. I think when we start talking about modifying the zoning ordinance, it's going to be a little fraught. I don't know. Somehow I think that that's at a higher level of accountability. We eliminated some zoning ordinances. But we had made major modifications to a new helper. No, not that I've been around. Well, we have a content that's going to suggest modifications. Okay. Well, I'm going to bring to you after our meeting and not bring it up right now, but I believe there's something that we can move forward shortly. Then we'll help further. Both the 19th, 2018 as well as the 2025 conference. That would be great. She wouldn't be appreciative. Okay. So, do you have any more conversation through the city? I'm good. We did our meeting at 100 hour. We did have comments from the city there. Okay. Do you have any more conversation through the city? I'm good. We did our meeting at 100 hour. We do have comments from the city. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. On the January 28th meeting, there was a presentation made about the water of an rich plan. And so I just wanted to bring that to your attention. And there's a very thorough coverage of that monolusite on the water on the water-wast page so yeah it's in the newsletter and if you follow us on social media it's all over there too. Thank you so soon we'll have some energy water. Yeah. Everyone can have that one. All right. That's seven twenty-two. Yes, we can pass it up. I had a burny into your mouth. The type of golf books. I'm going to be coming in. Generally, we've had booked that things where. And the ball of golf probably in the piece of the money that don't use so we lost in the practice of going on. In the individual house. But I didn't really heard anything about what we do and what we have a master developer like happened recently with one client applicant. I don't know how to do that. Of course, many of us can think of what I'm trying to get at. But we don't really welcome to come in here and do 50 or 100 homes with every 50 ones in different plan of a boat. We want to have everything in the term of it to be unique. Well, you don't think that's what Masterbilt was like, that's the one that we built with more recently. They're in the process their portfolio of so how will we address in that so we don't have so many countries in the advise of big piece of probably once per 200 homes they're really kind of you know just just just to see them prior to prior to prior to prior to prior to prior to prior. Right. Yeah, and I think that's what the Anton and I'll be standing for more of these. Well, it gives us the interesting way to find what the Anton and I think, but we need to stay for a, maybe not the entertainer, this kind of development. And once again, when we made little developer, that's gonna be the number one thing that we actually talk about when someone wants to ask us again. And it's just how we've opened back to you. Yeah, I think, I guess, let me go into a slow time on it here and say, what I think you're articulating is here's what we would like. But in the scenario that a party says, I don't care. I'm, you know, I've let them buy this property, so we want to sell me this property. This is what I want to do. The issue is how do we enforce our intention, basically. How do we legally defend ourselves such that if someone came to us and said, I don't care what you like, that's not, but that's, I'm not interested in it. I have five homes and I don't speak the subject. Okay. Say, say that the total brothers project had gone forward. And we had this, but not the language on books before they got there. Would it anyway keep them from using their plan? So, they would say it would happen. We would look at the ordinance and the work. But then you can't let that question be serious. It provides you with a criteria where he could say, I'm sorry, but you can develop as told brothers, we can't discriminate against you because of being hard, but it can't be out of the plan book because we can see that if you're going to sell plan number three here to five different people in this development, violence, it's two. It's two clubs. It violates the other violates. So you're not an issue of building permit. You can go issue for one plan number three, but then no more. They've got to come up with a different plan. Is that end-to-wordness? Is it, are you capable of that? So I'm getting more of it once again. It covers different characteristics. That's what we have and that's what we would have to enforce based on the characteristics. I know can you say that they're a common plan? Can you be more specific? Can you modify the system? No, no, no, no. The way it's written is how you deal with that. We have to keep in mind that different pieces of ordinances by subdivision regulations and zoning date each govern different faith. What you keep talking about is how the structure looks. You know that we can't regulate the thing with tutorials. And so the intraminatme ordinance is designed to govern as much as we can't I'm going to have to go to the office and do a little bit the design of the particular case that, you know, but nobody on, nobody that I know of, that's involved with all this is not good. Our has trained in the aesthetics of building the sun. So you're trying to how do you regulate the building design you send them to the architectural building board? Well, so if they have deep restrictions, we don't enforce these really We don't enforce the written, but some communities you may well know have have ARBs on their boards and they have to get approval from some back to it was born before they send it over to us. But one thing was. But if you have that, I know the cases where they didn't have many. You're hoping to take this side off of them. Those of us. Yeah, those that, that required we, we asked for that. We've seen a lot. We've seen trying to phrase the question one more way. Could the ordinance require individual building permits to get architectural. Why not? I already. If you're going to build out a heat cross and you're going to have to go through the home association because they got a set of documents that say they're documents say that before you put up a house, you have to clear your architectural plan with home association. We are, I can have that mercy, clear it with the architectural view. So, but you have to keep in mind that these ordinances apply to the entire state. I am. So, if you have to give in mind that these ordinances apply to the entire state. Oh yeah, deal with it. And so if you had HOAs with different architectural standards, then how do you deal with the conflicts between the two? You have to think about how that would potentially draw out the building permit process because that is currently how the ordinance is written to require everything to go through. Yeah, we're being. Is there any way Marie to this is in the building permit ordinance right? Is there any way to move that criteria up to the zoning ordinance and getting it head on on the zoning check. So, you know, I'll say this because I said it to the other case, the time of the that the other talking bad is the development. That does have to do what you're wanting to do. So, but you're doing very good. What I remind you to wear what you're wanting to do. So, but you're doing what you're trying to do. What I remind you to wear a obsession. So my comment's over the mid-end. So, but there are different levels of control in the way to have the best control is. I agree with that. Because the zoning changes where we have the motion's pressure. And that's where we need the most tools to prevent a loss from being filed in this city when we don't watch them. So how do we accomplish that? zoning numbers use how, how, whether it's commercial, whether it's residential, instead of division, the ovens wear a big scope. So that's why open space is there because, you know, that's why open spaces there, because that's why lot sizes are there, things like that. So, you know, what you're talking about the most appropriate vehicle is a development agreement. Okay. And then that is a anti-monon. We don't want to one or two far away from the discussion of two ordinances that we had listed on the agenda. So, that box was well made. I'm looking at the ordinance. If it's any way to make a little too year to require review by the architectural review board to comply with ordinance, then People don't get building permits Whether they're told brothers or an independent bill without any censure or the stamp approval on the plan. That it's conformed with the city's ordinance. But I mean, I don't know if we can make that modification on we've left you but that's sort of a comment based on Bob said. We definitely hear what it's being asked. Okay. Now we're ready to go. Okay. 730, Donald. Shane. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. you