We have a lot of time to talk about the issues that we have. We have a lot of time to talk about the issues that we have a lot of time to talk about the issues that we have a lot of time to talk about the issues that we have a lot of time to talk about the issues that we have a lot of time to talk about the issues that we have a lot of time to talk about the issues that we have a call starting with staff? Good morning. Welcome to the design review board October 15th, 2024. This is Lord of this Cavalier from the chambers and Marcus Marcus liked with An Alex who did it from the city attorney's office. I Believe that was Alex whodiebe who was intermittent. Can you hear me? Yeah, here you there. Okay. Alex Odiebe from the city attorney. Okay, very good. And then we'll go ahead and do roll call of members and then the pledge of allegiance. So brother here. I'm going to get a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a little bit more of a I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible with dirty and justice for all. Amen. Do you want to do a little bit of a silent prayer for those people that have lost the lives in the alien and Milton? Well, we can take a moment of silence. It's well in order. And I buzz all those folks. All right, let's go ahead and, is it correct? Do we have it first item? Mr. O'Reba, would you like to do this swearing in? There are applicants here at the Chambers. Yes, if we could have all applicants who are going to be speaking today, please turn your cameras on and unmute your microphones. Who won't let me turn the camera on, sorry. Let me see if I can help with that. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting. I'm going to be presenting and neither is iPhone David. Well Herbert is. Herbert Martin is going to be presenting. All right. We're going to need him to to share their screen as I present the items before they give their presentation. First one on the agenda is. I hang on. Lord is let's wait until we swear everybody in first please. Okay. I was just given them time because this is a technical thing. And I was on the iPhone of was this to David. I just sent a text to, uh, to bud for him to turn on his camera. Okay. He won't be presenting onto the third item, but I'll give you a chance. Well, what we wait, if I may make a quick announcement. For 45 years, I've never had a website. So finally, after people beating me over the head, my new website will go live in two days. So I finally joined the young men here in technical knowledge. So thank you for that. Go to it. Okay, so for everybody here and we'll swear in her later. And it sounds like David is not going to be presenting whoever iPhone David is. That's fine. If everybody could please raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. Thank you very much. Lourdes, all yours. Thank you. Good morning. The first item for review would be DRB 2024-027, applicant says had Molina. If you could please share your screen perhaps the site plan or the rendering. Appreciate that. Property owner, Land Trust Services Corp. Thank you. If you share your screen so as I give the presentation your item, they can see a site plan or a rendering. Thank you. Start with the front rendering. Thank you. Property owner, Land Trust Services, Corv. TRS, location 5753, Southwest 81st Street, request this new construction to story within the RS 3 zoning district for the city of South Miami. The proposed as you can see is a two story residence and the plans have been prepared by a Florida registered architect and as required by the code by a landscape architect as well. This total lot size of 20,000 45 square feet meets the 10,000 minimum requirement for the zoning district RS3. It also complies with the dimensional requirements in section 20-3.5 H of the land development code. We have, as I mentioned, a 20,000 45 square foot lot, which meets, in other words, it does not exceed the maximum allowable building coverage being that the lot size again is its size of 10,000, for example. This lot size allows a requirement of 27.6%. Again, it does not exceed that allowable. It's at 23% with 4,598. It also meets the FAR. The allowable is 8,298. The proposed is 6,000, 209. Impervious, again, the allowable is 45%. The elevations, I'll let the architect present the materials and the colors as well. There is also a two story, I'm sorry, there's a two story home obviously, but we have the accessory structure at the back, at the rear yard that does not exceed the allowable height as well. The proposed is that 11 feet 10 inches. The proposed is 15 nowadays for a detached accessory structure. You'll see the site plan, as I mentioned the lot, yes, it is a beautiful lot, 20,045, and you can see the land distribution and the courtyard that actually has two courtyards. You'll see that on the site plan. It underwent a development review committee back in July 2024 and they just recently submitted for a tree removal to the planning and zoning department. It's currently under review. Obviously during the previous DRC it was suggested that not just for removals but also for relocations, a tree disposition needed to be applied for. With that said, the applicant is requesting approval for a two-story building and the accessory structure in the landscaping from the development review board. Recommendation from staff is approval, all we need is to update the landscape plan legend to comply with the required mitigation and any comments from the board this morning. Thank you. And I thank the architect who is present, Cesar Molina, for sharing the screen. You also have the grading prepared by CarLab Engineering. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Berr. Would the applicant like to make a presentation. Good morning, Gab. You want to go quickly through this is Cesar Molino, CMA Design Studio. This is a product that actually was designed way back in 2007, 2008 and was kind of a shell with this new buyer. Obviously, we brought everything up to code and introduced certain elements that we probably didn't have back then, one being sort of Tesla tiles that we're introducing into the house. This is like a P-West Florida vernacular style house with a typical lap-siding, moving shutter, van shutter, rafter tail extensions. And we had designed a house to have like a processional experience of a series of indoor and outdoor spaces. So you'll see a series of court yards, internal court yard that in capture is both the living, dining, and family room area. Then the rear yard, which encompasses the pool and carriage house in the back which we felt was nicer to have. The garage took away in the back and preserved the streetscape to be a beautiful facade with just a symbol of a driveway and then along approach to the back from the carriage house. So again very understated you know kind of QS whether you're portico, fortune of fraud and then you're louvers and you have your lap siding. We have periphery stone pavers in the in the driveway, coral stone pavers on the hardscape areas and then simple light paint a stuck-o and white trim on the rafter tails. This would be the courtyard that flanks the dining room, living room and family room maybe within proposed outdoor fire sitting area at night and then the rear yard being more expansive yard that that encompasses a pool area with the carriage house in the back. The pool is on access to the courtyard in the family room. There's a little conceivable there for grilling and cooking. This is an aerial view of how the house sits. It's almost like a short B short C when you see the courtyard and the courtyard and then carry a child to the back. Another view of the narrowed of view. These are the general materials and pads of the house. It's a Tesla tile, so it's fully solar and self-sustained. We got the hardy plank with the shutters, the Coralina pattern floors, Saka Coralina on the floors, perfectly on the driveway, then smooth stock of finishing the sod. These are, Lord has mentioned these are our parties and our zoning data, meeting all the requirements. Again, the house is way below any other requirements, such as lock coverage and FAR. The site land, so you can see the general party of the house with several courtyard and non-areas and then the carousel's in the back. Perimeter offenses and gates. So the house, coming to a four-year living room, dining room, small office library that could be the secondary bedroom, bathroom room in the back, kitchen, media room, and then guest house in the back. Upstairs is just primary bedroom, and then three kids bedrooms above the secondary floor. Extensive woodwork on the eaves and overhangs of the architecture. Same thing on the second floor so true rafter tails, true flights, true rafter tails, brackets, room plan, the elevations, we meet all the high requirements. Again very We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. Thank you very much. Does that conclude your presentation? Okay, I mean, you need anything else to let us know. I just wasn't sure if you were concluded or you were pausing for a moment. I don't know how much detail you guys need to go over the design. It's just a lot of the designs in the details, but, you know, we got all our rapid tail details and administration and calm details, braiding details. Now, that we want you to go into. Yeah. And then we got our site drainage and civil drawings. And then obviously our landscaping drawings showing the extensive landscaping that's in the house. So. Would you like to expand on the landscaping drawings and drainage? I mean we're capturing all the rainwater and all any you know understory water that falls into the house into our filtration systems and drainage systems. I mean you think we have extensive shrubbery and trees and understory vegetation that we don't have that we see in some of these houses. So again, I'm trying to stick to a very native palette of oak trees and ponds. And we got some sort of butterwoods. We got awesome some woven videos on the trellis. The palette, Taita Nielsen,, the landscape architect, let's keep our context really dying. We do have a, we do have a, this is a series of private heroes that we're using. Again. Okay. Mark, there you go. Shoot and run, and then a lot of coconut palms and palm elements and then more denser trees and shrubs along the perimeter to create privacy and an understory underlingment on the bottom. We also have the radiation and lightning plans. These are on as part of our landscape. That's pretty much the extent of our presentation. We have any questions. Thank you very much. We'll now open this to a public comment. Do we have anybody in chambers around Zoom that would like to comment on this presentation? There's no money in chambers, but staff and one of the applicants. And seeing the one on Zoom, we'll go ahead and close public comment, and we will open up to the board. It's starting with board members of Rada. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, I think it's a wonderful plan. The thing that struck me most is that most of the rooms have natural ventilation through ventilation, which is very unusual these days. And so it's a very environmentally sensitive or climate wise, very sensitively designed plan. And I like the idea that the garages put on the back. I'm not sure if they're going to back out of the garage all the way through the property or that little payday in front of it is going to be big enough to turn around. But that's, you know, that's a, so I was just curious about that. But I think it's a very sensitively done I, and this, I had a question about this Tesla tiles. Are those solar tiles? I'm not familiar with it. Yes, these are solar tiles. We've done two products already in coal tables. So there's no need for generators or anything that had battery backups. So it's 100% sustainable house. Okay, so that's wonderful. Yeah, so I think I definitely in of this such a beautiful, redesigned natural ventilation, which is the best thing that I, you know, I think we need to have an actual landscape. Well, I wouldn't make that comment of Maria and make that comment, but I like you. You're been in. Say, say, say about the landscape, absolutely. I think it's, I wish the landscaping is as mature as it's shown in the first year, but eventually I think it'll be a wonderful site. So I think it's a part of it. Thank you, Board Member Corral. I'm glad that, to rather broad that out because it's one of the comments, but let me just say this. The presentation from the landscape architect is very nice. However, there is obviously a few things that you need to check in terms of the invasive trees that are here. For instance, this subata, the subota tree, is an invasive tree. And those bring the money in relocating that tree just get rid of it you don't even have to mitigate. I've you don't believe me go to the Florida and in basis species council you will see it there even this state of Florida you know Florida have mentioned that and the reason I mentioned I'm pointing that out is because I've never thought that the Sapa Lila will be a problem, but apparently it is. The other one that is an invasive is your work for which is not a native by the way also. However, because it's contained and I happen to like that for a lot because of the texture and so forth. And so I went into, I wanted to investigate a little bit more of that. And I'm mentioning all of this because we have to be sensitive. He was so sensitive on the site, the way he centered up and all, that I wanted to see where the landscape architect was going with this. And the second thing is that you have designed, in my opinion Mr. Melina a beautiful home, key wise style, the proportions and all, but the landscape does not reflect the key wise style. Everything is very straightforward, very ornate from that from in terms of the trees okay your choice Instead of being grouped and so forth to create pockets that will call attention My only other issue that I have is this election of the tree a green button would I When they're small they look great But there are the most inconsistent tree to give you gives you you a different type of character. So if that's what you want, fine. If the idea was to let it grow, then top it off and give it a wall all the way around, that's another, another look. Cal Philum that he has proposed works that way too as well. I was also looking at the grain, how that will work there. But I believe this is all storm sewer, correct? Yes. It's not the same. So there's no grain failure. And the other thing I noticed on the civil is that it shows what it seems like a gas tank in the front, is that correct? There is a propane? Yes. Okay. So, and I'll let the architect deal with that if we want to see or whatever. The other thing also that you had a tree, I wish the other landscape architect was here so we can have a real rapport. Because I happen to think that he did a very nice job, the presentation and all. So the other thing that he did not calculate, well, let me put it in a different way. We have a code that says that we have to provide three trees that are 18 feet tall. However, we also have a code that says you can break it down. The spirit of that code was to take all three trees that were total 54 feet in height and then break it down so that you are able to create different layers of height on the trees and create something interesting within you know we were giving that designer that ability and I know people want to move on but the reason I think it's very important because of the way the houses designed the way that landscape has been presented and I think it's in the merits to discuss that for future You know when we're looking at this. So when it goes out for 500 square feet of canopy, when you divide that, you need five trees. That's your mitigation. That's what you're removing. That's your mitigation. Fantastic. However, you can't break down to 300 square feet gives you more trees, but we also looking at the cost. Because an 18 foot 20 foot tree costs around $2,000 not planting. So now you got to add the cost of an insulation. By breaking it down in different heights, now what you have done is save money to the client and so forth. Again, I think he did a very nice job. I'm not going to penalize him for obviously for selecting the green button wood as his main tree. So native, he complies. I'm just looking at it, looking at the house, the way you describe Mr. Molina being a keyword style. Where is the grouping now, in terms of the three years old, and so forth, a lot of growing and material, pockets and all, but overall very nice. And any other comments on that? No, that's it. Thank you. Vice Chair Viena. Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Molina. Good morning. I'm glad to see your house here in the neighborhood. I've seen your houses before. I came across a house a few years ago that you did in I was taken by it and so I really liked your house as well here. It's really nice. I like it. I have a few questions. You said that rafters and the ease are true wood and are your shutters operational or they're just applications? No, they're just decorative. They're just happy. Okay. And then deciding are you using a Stockholm like Siding or are you doing real siding when doing hearty plan? Yes, that's a hardy plan So they're real great. Thank you for that That's really the only comments I have I like your design a lot You would be great if your shutters were real and they were operational. I have them in my house and they were great and you know I think that was the original intent of the shutters. So it would be a little bit more real if they were but they're great, easy to install, they're just close and you're done and be put, thanks to your, even though I'm sure you have how we can win those, but you know, they're just a nice feature. It's nice when they are a real thing. For your house, so I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Vice-Care. Where do I remember crews? I think it's absolutely beautiful. I mean, I can't wait to see the finished product. I love the tones. Just like the architect described at the beginning of his presentation. It's just soft. It's going to be a beautiful addition to the neighborhood. Thanks, Dr. Williams. Thank you. Sorry, Daniel, before I forget Mr. Molina, I think you're dry where you may have some issues with turning radius. It looks like a tenth with dry way in the front of the house. I think you'd have some issues with turning radius there with a 90 degree turn. I should come in and turn it around. Yeah, I mean, right now we have a very tight area with the amount of green area. We need to provide based on the code so we have to keep it at 10 feet. So, um, we Teter, wrong enough? The inside turns? We could. We could propose that we were just trying to keep it very clean and, and it's weird, but we could, we could work with that or not and maybe we have to reduce the driveway a little bit and pinch an engine. It should be quiet but right now you're that. Are you that tight with with the front of people? Yeah yeah you're you know your coding is which I appreciate the amount of green areas that you propose is just like we would like to propose gravel once that that does encounter as per meets area of your code. So yeah, virtually your your your hard scape and your green area requirements are pretty high which is great but then your material of allowable material for perviansarians and impervious areas don't really help us out. So let me let me ask you a question. And this is this goes for Mariano or Lourdes as well, because there may be something here. I understand that gravel is not considered permeable because the way that is interpreted for some people is that it becomes compacted and at some point it stops taking the water as it usually does at the beginning. So when cars are driving over and over and over it gets compacted. I have to respect that but I disagree with that because I have some gravel in my house, and it works perfect, and I'm part of my class there, and I work fine. However, it is the code. But you seem to have some gravel behind the garage, plant depth, and plant south. Is that gravel as well? Yeah, because there's nothing going to grow back there. I mean, you can put anything you want, You get access to the equipment and stuff like that. We do need some. And I see. And then if that is the case, Mariano or Lourdes, wouldn't that gravel that is not going to be driven over to be considered permeable? All right. This has been discussed so many times. I believe that in driveways and maybe this is where we're just can correct me. I believe we give a 25% credit. We say, towers. Okay. Towers of fact have been a pervious. And remember, you have to compact the subsoil in order to be able to gravel on top and then be able to cart the roll over and eventually that gets to become fact. But what I'm saying is in the bag behind the garage, no cars going to drive back there. And I'm asking, you know, for me like open space, let me start from there, open space, assuming puts an open space. So you've got to me like open space, where it makes up from there, open space, assuming pulls an open space. So you've got galley for open space, right? Grattle back there as far as I'm concerned. If the soil, and you put the gravel, that percolates. That should be a purpose. So question is, that's the way I interpret it. That's the way I interpret it. The city may look at it differently. But when you have gravel in an open area, that should be pervious. Why break it? But now, so if we just stick to the code without breaking any rules, Mr. Molina, did you consider that as nonpermeable? Because if the code allows for 25%, we consider that as nonpermeable. Because we were told that non-grarabble because we were told that no gravel was Acceptable as curable area. Excuse me, but other chair If we did if we miss come right go ahead. Thank you First there's nothing in the code about 25% Okay, thank you for that. There was before so gravel in this case in any, it's considered impervious. They're at 45% maximum because as I stated on a 20,000 square foot, 20,000 plus square foot lot, as the lots get bigger, the percentages gets reduced if you recall in a 10,000 square foot lot. To story home, the impervious is 4050, the allowable used to be 45. But as the lots get larger, the percentage of impervious is reduced. And this particular site, the allowable is 45%. Percent, and I believe they've counted, everything including this gravel, the driveway, and that's why they have those two horizontal arthins going to the detached structure at the rear. So. I see. And by the way, I'm going to talk that out for a while here because let me just say, just a little bit of a moment, time for future applicants when they come before us. We try to use common sense here and the code sometimes do not allow us to use common sense. Looking at the professionals here, Charles Molina, Danny, myself, you, we know what happens in construction. We know how things work. And there are issues where if you've got an open space that is not going to be traveled by any automobile, my common sense will say, give it a thing for a service area. It's a design look is what they're doing. But again, that's something that we can discuss later in terms of the code how to apply. Of course. I wanted to discuss it because maybe Mr. Molina would have a little bit of an opportunity there to make his drive a little bit more operational if you will. I think that you know if you have cars turning left and now you're going to get a little bit of a money on landscape. But it's just going to be a little bit of a mixture of journey. Can we overrule that? I mean, as a board, if we believe we can, Danny, you mean the other decision to be on the fine, but I believe the answer is no. Yeah, unfortunately, we are somewhat, we're bound by what the code says. We are applying the code. Unfortunately it is the commission who ultimately adopts this with the recommendation of the planning board, these, you know, the land development regulations and it's certainly something that you should feel free to bring up to commissioners, you know, as part of your expertise, but unfortunately, we have a very, we operate within a box and as much as we'd like to sometimes operate outside and think outside the box, for this purpose we are, we are in the box. So by way of this application, can we make a recommendation that this issue be? I know we've done this before, I believe that the changes that have been made to the impervious percentages increase came from this board from before. And so, you know, I agree with the concept that if nobody's driving on it, it should be considered pervious. So maybe we just make that recommendation, but for the purpose of this application, it won't have an effect. So if that, and I guess I'm the next to comment on the presentation, I would say that the architecture and design and all is very appealing. I think you all have done a great job as always. And so with that said, I would ask for a motion. I make a motion for approval with board comments and for them to have the flexibility to count that gravel, that it's outside the driveway. And see if maybe it can get up variance on somebody to let up wrecked for. Because it's going to help them. Look at that driveway. It's going to help. Board members, I'm happy to note discussion on that but that shouldn't be part of your recommendation. The recommendation should be approval with board and staff comments but we cannot recommend that they be allowed to do something that the code does not let them do. I think say that. Yeah, I think Mariana what the city of Trenia is saying is that we can join the two issues. One thing is that we are saying this should be considered and maybe this Applicant will benefit from it if it's considered in time, but we just need to focus on the approval of this particular item. Okay. All right, so let me Let me We make the motion. I make a motion for approval based on board member comments and Stat comments and well if we once we get a second, we'll have Vice Chair Viana make his comment if we'll open it for discussion. I say it on the motion. And my comment is the following. I think Mr. Molina is very happy with his design with being a rectilinear and very clean and simple because he goes along with the rest of his design. So, you know, I don't mean to drive your pain at all, I'll just make a suggestion, but, you know, I think you're okay with your design, so there's nothing really to do here. So maybe we should blow it out of proportion. That's all. Can I make one last comment just a quick one? What happens is, put mulch in the bag is mulch considered impervious? Yes. No. treated as green, but it all depends on, you know, in this case, for instance, as a pathway. It is not part of your landscaping per se. So it was in the back or the sides, it is treated as impervious. We want to see green. That's always how we apply regardless of the size of the lot. We go by the percentage that allow it in the code and We roll with that mean that everything counts to is impervious That's good. So let's let's go ahead. We are motion under second. Okay Okay, with that said we've had our discussion and Mr. Brader how do you go? Yes? Let's grab yes With that said, we've had our discussion and Mr. Brunner, how do you vote? Yes. Mr. Crowell. Yes. Vice Chair Bainan. Yes. Board member Cruz. Yes. And I vote yes. Thank you very much for your presentation and we look forward to a successful project. Thank you very much. Appreciate the comments. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Molina. Okay. Bye-bye. Thank you. appreciate the comments thank you thank you thank you the second item is David troutments the drb 2024 032 applicant Orlando Rivas property owner or Vic LLC location 5890 south was 80 second street, request new construction, two story. Also within the RS3 zoning district, we have a two story home. Actually a corner lot on the south side of 80 second street. It has a flood frontage of 105.49 feet and 14,930 is the actual lot size. From there and based on that section 23.5 age dimensional requirements allows for a maximum score footage of 30% for the building. .45 for the FAR and the impervious allowable is 47.5. The proposed meet those requirements. I'm going to let the architect discuss the materials and the finishes. There's also a rendering for this home. It underwent development review committee on September 10, 2024. The architect was asked for the grading plan to include additional details and so forth since then that's been revised. We also have a tree removal was mentioned during the DRC to please submit for not just the palms but obviously tree removal. I'm sorry, it was just suggested that, not just for trees, but for palms, the tree removal is also required. And the tree disposition plan is part of this package. It's also, they have not submitted yet for the tree removal. We have new trees along 84, 82nd Street and 3 on 82nd and four along 59th Avenue. Remember this is on the corner lot. So we have that wide soil area to capture these trees and to capture the water also within the soil. The proposed is a true story and the request is for approval of the building. We also have the landscape by the landscape architect. This is the one by Herbert Martin. If I'm now mistaken, he needs to be sworn in. I have that in the back of my mind. So with that said, stabs recommendations for approval of the building and the landscaping with the recommendation, with the condition that they need to submit for a tribunal and obviously mean any of the mitigation requirements and any suggestions from the board this morning. Welcome Mr. David Troutman. Thank you for sharing your screen. I think the only thing they haven't seen is a day to rendering and the materials. But if you want to start with the site plan that is fine. Thank you. Welcome this morning. Good morning. Come before you today to to present this two-story home on a corner lot in South Miami. Here's the context and the lot in question is here and to the north is 80 second-street and to the west is 59th Avenue. This is the context. On the west side across 59th you can see this two-story home here and then across the street. This is one-story. Here's the subject property. This photograph right here and then to the east side is this home here. So here's our site plan, and you know, it is a corner lot, so we've decided to put the entrance and the garage opening off the 59th year and then we have a secondary driveway and parking area to the on the north side of the site. The house is composed in a massing sense of a two-story volume centered and then the one- garage Massing is on the northwest side of the house Big open lotion in the back with a second floor pool deck I'm sorry second floor deck overlooking the pool with the pool and back So let me take you first. Well, let me show you what the house looks like. This is what the house would look like for 82nd. And then this is the view to the house and the back. This kind of the residence is what we would consider a tropical modern design vocabulary with balconies and large wooden overhangs providing shady areas around the house and painting the view of the house from the street. It's a nice depth and shadows. On the left side here you can see a couple of aerial photographs. This one would be the top one is looking from the corner down to the house, the front and the west side. And then below would be the view from the back of the house. Real quick, the house on the first level is pretty much an open plan. You have a foyer you come into on the west side of that foyer is the dining room and the right side of the stair and the foyer is a study and then we have the great room in the back that opens onto the kitchen on the west side is the service area and the garage and then in the back the barbecue area with the the large loja. On the second floor you have the master suite occupying the south portion of the house, a nice gallery up above connecting the two other bedrooms. These are the elevations with material selections where we have stone accents and as you can see here the stone veneer and then we have white stucco for the body of the house and for the overhanging we have Kumaru wood sulfates, a light tint on the glazing with a dark frame to aid in the appearance of recess. So this is the 82nd Street facade showing the front door which is the wood. As you can see here and then the back of the house, the south, as you can see here, at the bottom. And then the two sides, this one would be the side to the east. And then this is the elevation on the west side, where you can see the garage door and what we propose the aluminum pick offense along that west property line. Some simple sections. The house showing its volumetric properties, the double height areas in the foyer, with the gallery overlooking that, and everything else is a one story. Again, these are the renderings in the back, and I'd like to now turn it over to to bud to go ahead and present his landscape designs. Can you guys hear me? Yes, sir. Can we, can you please try and turn your camera on so we can swear you in? I'm going with a start video over in the left hand corner of my screen. It's got a red line through it. It's telling me your default microphone has changed to microphone. You guys being will now be used. But then it says cannot start, I got a warning sign cannot start video. Okay, then I'm just going to ask you to please raise your right hand. What's the answer? And do you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes sir. Okay, thank you, go ahead. And you are Herbert Martin correct? Yes sir. Okay, thank you. Go ahead. And you are Herbert Martin, correct? Yes sir, I am. Okay. I think Dave has done it long enough he can probably pass for him. But, but anyhow, here we are. Okay, so when I visited the site back in August, late August, so I September, I think the things, the cool things that stuck out of me because I was there with the developer also and he wanted to protect them, people, I think. So the very, I'll start with the very rear of the property, the very rear of the property, the south side of the property is loaded with kabata palms, Alexander palms, the neighbors have a pretty tall, Lucy heads behind there, there's some bananas in the Southwest corner. And so he said, let's keep all this. I said, okay, let's keep it. And then you can see I've rendered some of the existing trees and palms on the east side. Those are pikes, marotta trees. I make a very dense buffer. So that gives us automatic coverage and privacy in the rear yard. In the front, the current homeowner or rent, I don't see what's attending, has lived here for a long, long time. And apparently he's somewhat of a botanist, horticulturist. So we have this front property line, wide-o-way line of unusual species. A edible fig, rosemary, just trofas, et cetera, et cetera. But it's a rather pleasant combination of something a little bit different than seeing just a traditional hedge. So keeping that in mind, we try to kind of hang on to that character of it so that the owls itself can be fitted to the lot and not be an obvious you know disturbance for neighborhood so it's some continuity and some design intent to be compatible. Street trees in the front had a good look creative with the site with a corner lot visibility so there's islands cascene tree tucked in against the railway line. There's one oak for our massive canopy over the driveway, over the street, and over the driveway approach. They've got to make sense. And I can squeeze in others, sat me from the on that side, and likewise I had some street trees, no sat me from pigeon plums, because the power lines in the rear are a sort of button with tree and the back. So we hit those requirements and then inside trying to modern approach to the front, there is a tree and I just think tree that we don't want to hang on to. Not really sure what it is, I don't know it, but it's in good shape, the blue is, It appears to be a small density. Could be native, but I'm not really positive what it is, but it's in good shape, and I thought it would be on to it. Otherwise, there's a cluster of geochiaforms against the East property line. So I'm planning on adding more geochiaform apartments to create a very dense con cluster on northeast corner of the house. The rear of the property, the yards are well so we have to open. They're hanging onto a mango tree. There's bamboo cluster that's pretty good shape. So the landscape approach is to be like I said compatible without being overpowering and if David could flip over to the rating frame. They can see the requirements in the cutest position. We're only losing a couple of trees, really ones as one's a bottle brush going back obviously for the 60s or 70s. There is a Chinese sand palm and the cornice gotta come out and 70s, there is a Chinese stamp on the corner. It's got to come out in the back. There's a mango that's not in very good condition. And another is a semester day palm. That's OK. Not great, but that was going to be impacted by the pool deck. So we have to remove some things. But in general, we can keep a lot of the character a lot. And then finally, you can see the grading plan. If David could scroll down one. No. Thank you. OK, so I think a lot of problems that were not not problems, but things that we keep reoccurring is that we end up with these you know with Mar-Home whatever and there's a real desire building To have you know the pool deck the Roseau first floor of the same level So we end up with a pool deck and the rear that's really a lot higher than that just in grades. So I had to We can either fill the site, which is kind of one way of doing it. But what my plan shows is that we're providing some grades. So we moved down from the full deck elevation into a flat area and then we have a swayal against the East Poverty Line. And I'll go on the South Poverty Line where we can between the pool and the distance of palms. That all seems to work and then the contour is in the front are pretty simple. Again we're retaining water inside the property we're sloping from the right-away lines into the property and from the right-away lines out to a soil. So you can see even on a grading plan, that a lot of the existing shrubs in that northwest corner can remain. And I think there was one vision at the bottom where we had some complications. So what I'm doing is I'm flying on the existing grade spot elevations, and I'm extrapolating it left to provide. And then you have probably 7.0 or something and trying to keep the distance shrub and adjusting down booze. I think I resolved it and it seems to work. So the water's being held on the property without doing creating calculations and requiring stormwater drains or volume. Just right now complies with the intent of keeping the water I think that's the way that on this application. There's no money in the chambers. And seeing a video online, we'll go ahead and close public comment and we'll order board members, board members, brought up. I don't have any comments. It's very nice. The usual dated, you know, very simple, simple lines and clean lines, well articulated volumes. So, usual good work. So, I have no comments. Good to go. Thank you. Thank you. Remember Karauk? I'm in the same boat. I really don't have any comments. You know, I was going to mention about the power lines in the back, but they've heard that I addressed that. So I really don't have any comments. It's solid architects, solid landscape architect, what else can you say? Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning, David. Welcome back. Thank you. I feel like I know you personally already. I don't have any comments either except one minor which I usually make and I think might be an oversight and a very typical thing. I would love it if you're if you're a driveway at the garage would have a communicating path to the entrance of the house. If you have room to spare on the permeable area, I could somebody parking there and not wanting to come into the garage, but come into the front and have to work through the grass on a rainy day or, you know. So it would be very utilitarian to have a small lovely there. Other than that, I've had many more comments. Thank you, Vice Chair. Board member Cruz. I know, Lord has mentioned that, but can you say again, what was the lot size? This lot size is 14,930. That's why it's not quite the 50% and purge is it drops down to 47.5 that I did mention. Thank you, Lord. I'm sorry I had missed that. You're very welcome. It looks lovely. I like the materials that you know it seems like it's going to a beautiful project no solar panels no solar panels envisioned for this project okay thank you so much okay thank you board member I do have a little to say a wonderful design as always David thank you we appreciate the effort you going to in presenting this completely and articulating it well when you do with that said I will ask for a motion. I make a motion for approval based on also on staff and board member comments. Second. First and second. Hey, board member soprano. Yes. We're crew's the crowd sorry. Yes. A vice-travel. Yes. We're crew's. Yes. You're right to. Yes. Thank you very much for your presentation. We look forward to your successful projects. Thank you. I hope you'll have a nice day. You as well. Thank you. Thank you. I hope you'll have a nice day. You as well. Thank you. Thank you, the caregiver. Thank you guys. Thank you. And Ms. Cabrera, if we can add the next item, please. Next item, third item, C, DRB-2024-036, applicant Antonio Fosa, property owner Kelly Zidick. I'm going to show you some pronouncing that correctly. Side deck. I don't know. I'm going to show you some of the other things that I'm going to do. I'm going to show you some of the other things that I'm going to do. I'm going to show you some of the other things that I'm going to do. I'm going to show you some of the other things that I'm going to do. I'm going to show you some of the other things that I'm going to do. zoning district. We have, if you recall, please put your item, your rendering, your site plan elevation. Something so they don't get bored with my voice and my technicality here with the numbers please. Tony Solasil, I think he was sworn in from the from the very beginning. So within the RS3 we have an interior lot on the south side of 80th Street. This lot site is 14,038 square feet. It is meeting the requirements of section 20-3.5H, those are the dimensional requirements, where we do have a maximum allowable of 30 for the building, 45 for the FER, and not quite at 50, it also 47.5% is the allowable for impervious. We are within those dimensional allowables based on the code for the three. We also have the architect. I don't know, maybe he is connected, but I don't see nothing on the screen that always worries me. I apologize, I don't have a little bit of screen. Okay, then we'll perhaps work it from here. I know Marcus is listening to me, so thank you for letting us know that way we can be up to speed. As far as the elevations, I'm sure you'll introduce the materials. This one does have photovoltaic panels on the rooftop, but you'll introduce any additional finishes in the architectural. It underwent DRC on October 3, 2024, and it also will be required to submit for a tree removal permit as we have trees and I'm not sure we have some palms to mitigate. So yeah, because also there is no credit given for the palms and there are some conditions also from the DRC meaning. As such time it was questioned that the building height and the dimensions for additional information that's on the site plan, but I think this one had to go back because of the actual building height. That has been revised since the DRC. As I stated, the Tribunal needs to be submitted and that is one of staff's conditions. Staff's recommendations for approval with the following conditions. Number one, submit an application for Tribunal with the Planning and Zoning Department. Number two, application for the Tribunal shall include all invasive trees. So if you don't have invasive trees noted on your tree disposition, make sure you're middle for the tree removal permit does include the invasives because they must be removed as well. Number three, update the landscape plan and legend to include calculations for open space and sod and a 70% for proposed shrubs. Number four, update the number of trees without counting the palms. And last but not least, any comments and suggestions from the board. There you have the front rendering. And again, it faces 80th Street, address 59th, 38th Street. Welcome, Mr. Solsa. Hi, good morning. Thank you. Sorry, couldn't get the image on the screen. So as Lotus said, we have here a need to story for the room for 1 1 1 2 1 half bath residents. This is not a spot house. This is for the owner. We have a, I mean, this room for the renderers first and I'll show you the plants. As you can see here is a flat roof contemporary style house. We have a big two-story volume in the center of the home facing up the pool. Massive bedroom suite here on the ground level, open patio, barbecue area. Downstairs and in L-shaped pool. There you can see our two-story volume. We're introducing landscape on the flat roofs to soften it up. And also to conceal the solar panels. We have solar panels on both levels of the house. The owner actually works for a solar company in California. So that was an important item for him. So here, this is the yard. Again, the two-story entrance. We put open the roof a little bit to allow some lights so we can get some trees up in here. And to remove the shadow, but we wanted to keep the clean line of the front across. The back porch is gonna have the rolled-down screens and such screens, and this is gonna be an indoor outdoor area. They're very interested in keeping. As you can see here, there's a roof. We have photovoltaic panels on the upper level. We have a terrace from the bedroom that faces the front over here. But in the other portion to the back, it's all sort of that. We have the AC compressors, the generator on the roof can see all from view, so we don't see it and we keep as much green space as possible. Here's the site plan. Two story volume is this right here with we have our planters overlooking the front over the garage with a terrace, and then the solar panels with the planters overlooking the pool deck and the planters overlooking the pool there and the backyard. Now we have a good canopy, nice beautiful canopy of the LED existing in the perimeter of the house which was an adip and that was pouring to the honors to keep a lush landscape in the back. We have a lot of comfy pay the driveway just one approach to put a keepers watch screen space open to the front. You do have a very open tank and a pathway that connects from the garage from the driveway, I should say, over to the front of the house, which is over here. Here we have our drainage plans. We're doing a soil along the perimeter on the east, the south, and the west of the house and a big collection area here in the front. You can see the driveway of the walkway. The L shape pool and we are going to carve in some pods for landscaping. By the pool, which is one of the requirements of the design that the owners had, that they want to make it very tropical. There's an outdoor, this is the master suite over here from the master bathroom from the shower we're going to have access to an outdoor, this is the master suite over here from the master bathroom from the shower We're gonna have an access to an outdoor shower which connects out to the pool as well Once keep zoning requirements notice that we're all met and Here we have a ground floor plan of the house Mean entrance walk in this is the bridge bridge above the connected two wings of the home on the second floor and double height, building a great room space. We have the kitchen, which connects out to the covered barbecue terrace, these doors pocket so that during the nice day they can put down the screen. And this is all like a set indoor outdoor from here. The utility room that connects to the garage and the back, placed for the garbage, which is covered, and it's out of the way. And we have a study slash bedroom in the front with a nice big planter over the street. And then we have the master suite, which is open to the pool on two sides, with the bathroom, with the nice three exterior sides with the bathroom, the night's through the exterior, like the bedroom before, and a nice big closet, here in the center of the room. Let's get our second floor. We have two bedrooms split and then bridge the connects and this is all a double height space, open to blow. So we have two long-toed bedrooms. And then from this bedroom over here, we have access to the roof. So we can access the AC compressor as a generator, portals, eight panels, etc. on this level. On the other side of the house we have a gate which you can also come out and access the panels and the planters that are above that are looking down towards the pool. And then here is the roof level again. We have all the panels and these are the openings that you see on the lens, to allow light and water to out to the entrance. You have a ceiling plans. All the exterior is gonna be tonne of groove. You have the second floor, the second floor, the second floor tonne of room is actually gonna go into, the interior of the house, and you're gonna be able to see that same roof condition, ceiling condition, go all the way through so this is a double height space. And as you're looking from the front of the house, that tunnel room actually continues all the way through the whole wall in the house. So that means we're on our elevations. Sorry, you can see the generator and the AC from pressure is on stands up on the roof. The beginning of the planters. And the viewers, the session through the pool. And in the back, this is the terrace. The barbecue terrace on the right. The mattress suite on the left. And the double high glass here in the center. These doors open. Both of these doors open. They pop up. So on a nice day, the whole house is open from the interior to the exterior. This is the side entrance, so we have water heaters, or FDL panels, all that. And then you can see here the elevations with material. So we're proposing different color stuff off and these are composite wood panels. They're not wood, the aluminum but they make the look like wood for the elements. There's our overall plan and roof plan with the panels. And here you can see the materials, the color of the concrete favors. We're going to enforce the entire for the pullbacks and the exterior. We're doing the dark color cool. We're going to put the panel light on it. Over here, a room and a gate on the sides. And this is the composite slide material that we're using for the elevations for the facades. For the land state plan, like I mentioned, these all industries in the perimeter are existing. We are adding some in the front to accommodate the mitigation that is needed for the trees in the center. But I do I should have mentioned there isn't existing one story house on the property right now that's much smaller than this that's what the owners live with this moment. And here you can see the three mitigation in some of these are invasive and the ones that are in the middle that are in the middle. It's pointing to you guys have any questions and you put the lend on the back up and you can see it. Okay. Okay. If that concludes your report, we'll go ahead and open this to public comment. Anybody in chambers or online that would like to comment on this presentation. There's nobody in chambers. And seeing nobody online, we'll go ahead and the public comment and open it to board members wherever's Brutto. I don't have much comments. The only thing I have a question about the generator, the roof. What kind of screening is there provided because the rendering or not the rendering, but the plans show the generator is obviously depends on the size of the generator. As screening is proposed for the generator from the neighboring properties because now it's high on the roof. It's more visible than on the ground with the screen. For the neighboring property, yes, There is no little screening here currently. We are going to have some polytrees in this area. We could extend this wall over the cross of NB to cover. So the AC compressors are here that covered under the roof. We can extend this over to the generators. Because we're doing all the follow-up with those panels, we're still currently working with the engineer trying to decide if we're going to have a general view or if we're going to have Battery backup system for the house and that's something that again The owner is very hands on on this because that's what his profession is But for right now we just put in a generator as a standby Yeah, I mean with all the solar panels. I mean, I don't know the generators really needed but Yeah, it will depend on the but I would like to see if the generator is really needed, but it will depend on the, but I would like to see if the generator is a big enough generator then it needs to be properly screened. If you have one of those smaller portable generators then there's no problem with the air vent wall can probably hide it. And the other thing is again, it's based on the generator size. I can see some vibration issues, structural issues, some of those things get rest, noise issues for the master bedroom downstairs. Well, master suite downstairs, I think it's over the bathroom. So that could be issues that needs to look at vibrations, better than the vibration issues. Other than that, I mean, I don't have any issues. It's a good thing that the old houses look like, depending on the solar generated power, which is good. All right, another thing is that the house is very transparent. It's see through kind of approach. Obviously, in reality, there's going to be some, someone is going to want to put some privacy screening. So what is the plan for those kind of things? Or are there some screen that drops down or? Yeah, so the idea was we're going to have privacy screens on the 7th floor and down here at night. So that one, you know, when it's lit up. So towards the front of the street, towards the back we're not going to have anything because it's private. Like I said, there's a big canopy and you don't really see anything from the street. We may also have just a solar shade that comes down for the stair. Just a block in all areas from the street to the wire. So those things at night time you could not see through. But daytime, you can see through. Data, but they can see through depending on the light condition. That's the look of what the, you know, the report. It's not like it's solid, all kind of solid volume. So yeah, all right. Okay. So that's it. Thank you, all right. Okay, so that's it. Thank you. It's brought up. What remember Carol? Is muted. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that. the mitigation plan. If you have noticed you've been sitting on the other application, every sheet that has come before us, I mean every applicant that's come before us, has a true disposition plan with a name and botanical name of every plant that is out there. This fails at. Number two. He fails to call out which trees are invasive. He fails to call out What we are talking about. We are calling up with $21.000. He's an invasive. Well, Acacia is an invasive tree and so here's where the This is why we need the botanical name There are other Ac occasions that are not invasive. So the botanical name is the one that lets me know, and this or no, whether that should be removing, you don't have to mitigate, just remove it, or if you are going to relocate it in software. It's so important, Tony, that the plans are accurate because you come here only one time and then it falls on staff to follow up on this. So let's take tree number 38 a fight history which fight is a big well it is selling me how big. 20 feet by 20 feet. Actually, 25 by 20 with a 24 inch trunk. When you place that that home there with your pool area, I think that's the asynchronous. Those roots are gone. You just eliminate it basically over 50 to 60% of those roots. That's because of problem. I'm wrecking, I'm wreck, I'm making a recommendation to you. Remove it. Medicaid for it. That's the other thing I don't know where are the mitigation for those trees or putting it back on the site. I don't see it. which is one of the things that's missing. 3 number 23 it says that it is a gumball limbo to remain yet somewhere here at the Why, or maybe I, let me say, the survey. Bear with me one second, maybe I'm just ready. Okay, it could have been me. I mean, I'm just ready that is looking here. So, we see where, no, by the way, your own brell of tree is just to remain. That's number 34. So that's an invasive tree. So when I look at this thing, I'm sorry, so you may have this or something that I know that I'll show you the landscape architect work with this white foot on staff and those two 21 and 23 or are the people who are moving to see how it can happen over version. This is the one that was the last of those projects. Well, I just then that he may work with Mr. Whitefoot right at the end of the day. The Elon Musk bucket is one responsible. He's got a double check. Hey, staff makes mistakes. No questions. You know, so he's got to check this. So, they're Mr. Lightful who follow up on that. So, there's a lot of issues here, Tony. And here's where my issue is. I'm gonna prove this, because you're only gonna come here one time. And now, staff is gonna have to make sure that everything that I'm saying here is followed through. So, let me start again. Botanical name for every plant and every tree that's going to be removed. To show whether that tree is invasive or non-invasive. Three, the condition of that tree. Good, fat, look. But you know, those are the important things from that aspect. But I also want you to take a look at, and this is the recommendation from the landscape algorithm that should be telling you, hey man, I got a problem with tree number 38. I got a big tree there. And my issue is that we're taking away a lot of the root system. The branching is also going to be hitting their building. That's going to have to be cut back. So all of this becomes very important for you to look at and for him to look. What type of palm tree? I mean, there's a lot of things here that in the past, I would have said, sorry, no, come back. So for me, I'm just giving you this comments. This comments, we need decarculations because I don't see it. Of the canopy that's being removed, not shown on the chart either, that will give you a square footage. And you cannot use the existing trees that are remaining for the mitigation that has been for the trees that have been removed. So now to your house, I love your house, man. It's the Brata City. You can see right through. And that's it. I'll leave it there and we're good to go from that aspect. Thank you. Thank you board member Kaurav. Vice-chair Vaina. Thank you. Good morning, Tony. Love your house. I think I love everything about it. I just don't know if you're going to be able to do, or I don't know if you're still intent to do the garage door flush with the rest of the facade from the front. Have you had any considerations into that? That's one you mentioned, that's where we are. This is a point of attention between us and the owner. We were originally we had a standard garage door, but they found the product that they really love that this exactly list and it's engineered and it's a product out of, where is it? It's uniform, I believe it is, and it is a flush door and it opens up, doesn't roll up, it actually folds up into itself. The ten of us have a transformer, it's the most expensive garage door you've ever seen in your life. But that's what they wanted you. So we're going to proceed with that until budget tells us otherwise. And is it like tested for high velocity? It does not have an NOA, but they do have part of the reason why it's so expensive is that they have an engineering program that they will provide all the populations and they will be approved. It just doesn't have an endowatip because we don't use it. But this is something that they literally add them in about, they love it. And that's why I'm showing that flush, they're a lot of good, like that. Great. And then I agree with the Sprata in regards to the generator. I would definitely consider placing it, you know, yeah, that is a good image. If you must have it in the roof, I think it makes sense to have it in the opposite corner going from the master, talking that corner where you don't really see it from the side. I think it's very close to the actual house and the generator is going to be four feet or five feet with the support. It's going to show and it's going to be a nice show for that beautiful house that you have. So I think you would be your best interest to to maintain the very thin lines that you have achieved for your design to put it in or close to the corner on the opposite side of the house. Maybe just sacrifice, well you wouldn't sacrifice a sort of final because you would just switch it or find somewhere, you know, maybe I'd run that world where you can hide in real landscape. I deal with honestly, I deal with honestly, we'd like to remove it all together and just go with batteries and that's something that we're working on. You're just going to put it in because you say, well, let's put it in just in case, you know, that doesn't make sense for the technology for the batteries. Well, yeah, agree with you. It would be, well, I put it over here get to it, and it's above the closet. If you put it on the other side, it's actually gonna be above the kitchen, which I think is probably gonna be more of a concern when I want to fix on, but I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, you know, the generator comes in in cases of an emergency, so something's gonna give at that point. But I just don't think that, you know, one thing that I would be, how strong opinion about is, I don't want to see it from the side. Like from your neighbor, I don't want to see it on the earth. Again, I think you have a very elegant home, the colors, the texture, the colors, everything. And so, you know, maybe you would consider facing the pool, you could also turn around and go back or create a portion of landscape on that section and they just cover it. But that's the only thing. I wouldn't want to see that there. I think your project is going to go forward but it has to have that condition. Okay. Thank you, Vice Chair. What a member Cruz. I think it's beautiful. I think it's going to match very well on the 80th Street. I did have a question. What is the height of the garage? Is it double height? No, it's a single height garage because there's a planar above and it serves as the and get to the other version. You can see it here. The walkway of the terrace up here. So that's a 42 inch planter, so that it's ours for fall protection. But it's a one story, it's funnily about 13 feet. Very beautiful, thank you. Thank you. Okay, it leaves me, Tony Tony good to see you again. I do love the architect, I think you did a great job. I think my fellow colleagues here have pointed out all the items I would have brought up. I did have my concerns about the generator, but I think that's been exhausted. So I'll go ahead and call a question. Can we have a motion? One last thing, Tony, real quick, on your rooftop planters. Again, it's just a reminder, how are you going to treat that, how are you going to drain that? It becomes a leisure later on or not. If you're going to have scuffers falling up to the side, you're actually going to have drains up there, the weight and all that. I mean, I look at it because we designed so many buildings on rooftop gardens that we look into that. There's no difference on a residential home once you get it up to that level. Okay, so we will have we will have interior grains and we will have scuppers towards the inside and all of the roof grains will go like from the devil. We will have interior grains and irrigation in those branches. And one last thing if you can can provide until your landscape architect, because I know staff is going to follow up on this, I believe in minimalistic. But this is beyond minimalistic. I mean, it's just one shrug that is wrapping around. There's no creativity from that aspect, or I might always been more concerned with the front of the house I thought that's going to look and I understand that you want to have the house to look at the being the the actual I-catcher but there is such a thing as balancing out the landscape with the house and at the same time I think that you should use spread out the species make you know call out for a couple different types of species to make it interesting that's it sorry yeah I would for approval I would just add to that that the you know I wouldn't overcomplicated the maintenance you know up there is going to be a challenge yeah okay so we have a motion and do we have a second second second first and a second. If there's no discussion, Subrata. Yes. Coral. Yes. Diana. Yes. Cruz. Yes. Right to vote. Yes. We look forward to your successful projects. Thank you. Miss Cabrera, if we can have the next item please. Yes for the record I do not see the next applicant however let's keep in mind they're not required to be And you. I'm sorry, you learned to interrupt you. Mr. Pritchard, not a part of the, or he's just a citizen looking at us and that's it. I'm not understanding your question, Coral. All I'm saying is the next step is not a here. Well, okay, so there's no point. I don't know who Nathan is with. Thanks. He's here. No, that's for the is with. He's here. No, that's for the following item. Okay. Like I'm saying, for item 7331, Subway 64th Court, I don't see the architect nor the applicant present. So I'm just gonna read the item and read the report and Mark is just gonna help me hearing the screen. I'm just going to read the item and read the report and mark is just going to help me hearing the screen so we can see it. DRB 2020 4, 016, applicant of skyd familiar, property owner 7331 development LLC, locations, 7331 Southwest 64th Court, Request and Reconstruction, two stories, also within the RS3, single family, residential within the city of South Miami. This particular lot is an interior lot on the east side of 64th Court. The property is a lot with 73, which fails to meet the 75 minimum lot size required for an RS-3 zoning district. So we have a non-conforming lot of record because of the lot frontage because of the actual width. However, section 20, dash 4.18, non-conforming luts of records specified that notwithstanding limitations and post by other provisions of this code in any district in which single family dwellings are permitted, a single dwelling and customary accessory buildings may be erected on any single lot recorded at the effective date of amendment of this code. Basically what this means is that the new design would have to meet current code and that is section 23.5H, the mentional requirements for a two-story home. On a 10,222 square foot lot size that does meet the 10,000 so as far as non-conforming it is only non-conforming as to the actual width and not both as is stated in a section of the code. So with that said 10,220 the allowables are 30% for the building, 45% for the FAR, and the impervious, the allowable is 47.5. These proposed, the proposed score footages are within those parameters. As far as the elevations, we have the, since the applicant is not here, I'll run those by you. We have dark bronze windows with a smooth texture, stucco walls. They do have eight inch height scoring as stated throughout that home. As you can see on the first and on the second floor, we have the eight-inch scoring. The colors are Sharon Williams, Creek Village 7551, Tara Brun, 6040, and pure white 70005, as I mentioned by Sharon Williams' manufacture, and the outdoors is going in black. The height is within the maximum allowable of 25 so that's also in compliance as far as the building height. We do not have any solar panels on this proposed. I could be mistaken. I didn't mention that, but I do not believe so. We'll take a look at the additional plans for that. It underwent development review committee on April 25th, 2024 actually since then the design for zoning has been revised. We had issues with the building setbacks, the score footage, FAR, and impervious, but those have been revised and it is in compliance as far as the landscaping that has been designed by Florida Landscape Architect. Those plans are attached. We have the 13 existing trees and five new trees provided. It is important to note that the amount exceeds the minimum number of trees required as we know is three trees per lot. This is an interior lot. There is also one existing tree and one to one to be planted on the soil area. As we know, palms don't account, and this is the condition and this report. A tree removal is required to be submitted, and that was stated during the ORC as he had been submitted at this time. The existing tree disposition has additional details and reference to those that will be requested at the time of the tree removal. At this time the applicant is requesting approval for the two story building and landscape. Also staff recommendations for approval with the following conditions, submit an application for tree removal with the planning and zoning department, update the landscape plan legend to include the correct number of trees and to comply with the required mitigation and update the number of trees without counting the palms. And any comments and suggestions from the board? As I stated, I can't quite see, but Mr. Familia or Mr. Ralph Pwyth architect, if you're there, I do not think so, but if you're there, speak now. And Chair, you can, or Alex Rive, you can come in on how you wanna proceed again. The applicant is not required to be present. Mark as you wanna roll down maybe to the site plan or whatever the board wishes to see additional plans. Well, let's go ahead and open it up to public comment. Is there anybody on Zoom or in Chambers that would like to comment on this item? There's the money in Chambers. And seeing no one on Zoom will close public comment, is there anybody on the board that sees anything that needs to have an in-depth discussion or recommendation? Yes. Okay. I saw hands go up. I heard voices. You wanna go for it, Harvey? Sure. Can we go to the rendering for a minute? Or we could go to the elevations and then go to the rendering. I think there's a few things. Just a one moment, a city attorney. If we're gonna go into depth here and we don't have the applicant present, should we just go ahead and go through the motions without them or do we defer this and have them come and participate with us later? No, board, it's up to you. I don't see any issue with letting the board members make their comments. I'll put that on the record and then the board can make its recommendation. Or if the board really wants, if certain board members feel very strongly that they would like the applicant here to hear the feedback and see what changes or solutions or responses they would have to those comments. They could defer but you are absolutely able to proceed with comments. However this board sees fit. Does anybody oppose to proceeding without the applicant being present? Yes. I do, yes. I think we should review, I think we should make the comments and so that it makes sense why he's going back here, she's going back. Or maybe not, maybe I'll talk to come back. For, for, for members, if I may, you guys can put your comments on the record and the applicant can come and look at this video after and take that in and, and, and that'll be, and your recommendation to ultimately to the planning director will, will stand and, and the planning director, as always, will take those comments in. I, I don't know that you don't strictly need to have the applicant here to respond or to say anything at all. So it really is whether it's something that's really important that says we cannot proceed with this until you address this, that's one thing. The other, if you would like to put your comments on the record, I suggest you put your comments on the record and we keep things flowing, but that's, again, more prerogative. Yeah, I do believe certain comments may not be able to be addressed just by a simple comment. There are things of design that needs to be sort of like a... we thought. And so I do believe that they should come back, but you know we should make the comments anyway Well, so we only get to see this once so if we're gonna go through the process of comments And the furry I think you know, we're we're doing this twice, but city attorney What would you say? I remember that this is a recommendation, right? So I think you can give your indication and move it forward. Ultimately, the comments that you make and the responses or whatever needs to be addressed, that is something that staff will handle. Lures will handle with the applicant, and obviously Lourdes is here and Lourdes is taking diligent notes over all your comments. Again, I don't, it's not my place to say, but sorry, go ahead. So, I'm by this might understand correctly when we vote, when we all vote no, what happens to the bride? It keeps going forward anyway? No, yes, it goes forward, but it goes without the recommendation of approval of this board. That means that taking your comments and the reasons that you put out there for your recommendation against this design, go to staff and staff goes ahead and works with the applicant to either address those concerns to the point where staff says, OK, we feel that the concerns have been addressed enough that this project now we feel comfortable given the feedback we got from the design review board but yes this is again for single family homes this is a recommendation. I suggest that we just go ahead and make the comments and the applicants had the opportunity to come to present their project. They are not here. They haven't given a reason why they are not here. So I don't see for us to have to revisit this again other time. So we need to go ahead and make comments and move ahead. Keep going. That's not my idea. Okay. I love that. Should I go first? Go ahead. The reason I wanted to discuss the elevations because it may be a little bit different than the rendering. And I don't know which one is true because there's no documentation of the overhang of the roof. Mr. Baian, through the chair by me. The rendering, it's really to represent colors and materials. They're not going to build as per the rendering. Okay? So it's good that we have the elevations up in the screen. I would follow the elevations, please. Because the rendering is usually done by an artist and the home changes and the rendering never gets subjaded. So the rendering is just for the colors, the pain and the windows. But I would comment on the elevations. Please. Thank you. Okay. That's also a separate issue because we focus a lot on rendering, so maybe we shouldn't. However, there is no documentation on the elevations as to represent the overhang of the roof. When I look at the elevation, especially the front elevation, which is more narrow Earth than the side of the bed, it almost looks like a very small hat for a person inside of a portion. Is this proportion? In other words, it's too small for the size of the house. If you compare it to the other presentations or any other house that has a far wider overhang, it does well, not only for the aesthetics of the house, but for the practicality to our climate. And so, in the end- So excuse me, Mr.. Baiana, since I am taking notes, what do you suggest on this design? A two foot overhang throughout the home? Because I have to, if I'm going to enforce it, I have to say something. I cannot say, you know, overhang is too small. I need to, obviously they're not consistent. If you look at the right and the left or east and west They're not the same So and our and our hands are tied because you know How do we come into adjust who left or the right because there's no information? So I would say that at the very least that you have a three foot overhang Throughout house of this size. Thank you three foot foot throughout. We make sure that that gets read into the conditions when there's a motion, please. So I need to guide them accordingly. That's why I want to be very, very specific with your comments. Yeah. I have to be very honest with everyone here in the board. I feel so uncomfortable doing this because it's the comments that don't go anywhere. And that's how I feel. They will go. They will go far. If I am directed from you on three feet, that's what I'll... Well, I know it's a... I know the purpose for an overhang and so forth. So the fact that this is here before you is because they have finally gotten me every plan that's necessary for a complete submission and so forth. But yes, the drawings are very poor. There's a lot of inconsistency in these plans. So but that's where you come in. When I can no longer proceed, it needs the zoning, it needs the numbers, but the architectural example. Three-foot overhangs needs to be consistent. If they were here, they'd probably say, oh, well, that's a typo or rendering or the CAD person, you see. Show three-foot overhangs. Like, for example, the previous home, we discussed the generator in top of the roof. We really want screening. So you say screen the generator. If you decide to go with the generator, either with a wall or a buffer it would landscape it. That's a condition that staff can then make sure that that generator is screened on the side. See, give me directions and then I can make sure they get through. Especially on this one that the applicant is not present. So you're getting. Let's move to the next comment. Thank you. Well, that's one. There's no consistency on the alignment of the windows in the front. This is really good when you look at it in section in the red rings. You know, this is totally different from this. This entrance being here is so like very different language than the rest of the house. There's a lot of things that it would be much easier to have a conversation with the presenter or maybe has a reason for it, but it's hard to defend it. So I could go on and on and on, but I'll stop there. That's, I don't agree with the design. I'm going to go through the chair. Again, on the first floor, you basically want to line up in the windows. You want on the second floor the windows not to hit the top of the roof as they're shown there. And. the windows not to hit the top of the roof as they're shown there. And... You know, Ms. Cabrera, the thing is... I understand the thing, but I need verbal direct evidence. I'm trying to... I can't. I don't think that the sign should be achieved like that, because we shouldn't take the designers' hand and tell them what to do. We're not here to tell them what to do. We're here to tell them advise them on something and the advice is it's a communication in some two way things. So when the person is not here, it's hard for them to say, well, maybe I could try something else. As we did at the first house, the purpose area was cited that like, could we can do it? We're going on with our lives. But here, we are talking about something that you're going to have to say that I said that he should change this, you know, maybe the circular window to a rectangle. I don't want to do that. I'm not the designer. I just don't agree with the design. OK. No, I'm going to, but I'm not going to say you said. I'm going to say the board as a whole. And hopefully he will listen to the tape aside from my notes here. I'm sure the broad is going to touch base on the front elevation also being that he's an architect. So. If I may, let's try to keep this to requirements. And you know, I mean, opinion is one thing. Squares, triangles, rectangles. You know, that's not something that I think we need to dive into if somebody wants a circle next to a triangle or a square, that's what they want. Well, certainly, but you have a window hidden the roof there. No, that's fair. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It ain't going to work. Mr. Rivera, that's a fair statement. That's what I'm trying to say is, let's keep it limited to functionality and requirements as opposed to our personal likes. And I say that also in effort of time, because we do have one more item. And we are now pushing the two hour mark. So let's go ahead and streamline this a bit. Go ahead, vice-chair Biden. I'm finished. Okay. Mr. Abrada. the subrata. Well, I think the design is very poorly done. The layout inside is very poor. I mean, give you one example, as soon as you walk into the main door in the front, your stair is right there. It's very poorly done. The whole thing is very poorly done. The obviously rendering and the elevations and they don't seem to make any sense. But then, you know, when the end of the day, our obligation, our obligation, our responsibility is very limited. And we don't have, we can go back and forth, but this is a subjective decision we're making. And the architect can say, this is what I want, and that's it. There's nothing we can do. this is not a board of architects. There's not a, we call it a development review board, but this is just what they want to do that. That's their prerogative. We can really have no, we can discuss it. We can suggest, but the end of the day, this is what they want and that's what they want to get as long as it meets the code. So I think it's a very poorly done design and layout and as well as the architectural expression, but there's nothing much. I mean, I don't want to go through every nitpicky stuff because that's not going to help anything right now. So I don't have any comments. Thank you. I have a question. Go ahead. Can we defer it and ask them to come back and present? We can. It seems like that would, in my opinion, be ideal. I don't know how everyone else feels about that. I think my challenge is this, you have to begin with the end in mind. And if we're starting off with a design that doesn't make sense, as Mr. Berra mentioned, the roof's hitting the window, how do my challenges is will this actually get built correctly? And so are we helping the owner by deferring it and having them complete their design correctly like the other architects that we have seen prior to this presentation, as opposed to pushing this through with comments and trying to, you know, I don't know that we're saving them time or money. And I would protect them to see you from out of this building. As is. And this is where the fallacy of this board is right now with one time. It's, uh, it's, it's a fact. It's a fact. So brother brought up a good point. Now, if we see that it's such so many problems, my only problem right here right now is the civil engineer or the berm on the drainage plan. That doesn't work. We know that's going to be destroyed once they put the trills and then the integrity of the drainage system is gone. But at the end of the day, they have to make sure that water does not go into all the people's problems. So my issue, again, has always been, we do have a problem here. We could make our comments. But in the past, the name leaders will let them know. They will come back. And they will have to present with our comments that we made before when they show up to make sure that they did do it. And so right now, the only thing that's happening, we're putting a tremendous pressure on staff to make sure that that window that's gonna hit the roof, it's gonna work. All those little details, which always does fall on the building department, but at the end of the day, the architects' responsibility. So I'll leave it there, and my only comment is the problem with the berm, the landscape is fine. You have an experienced individual there, he's followed through, and that's all I have to say. Miss Cruz, did you have any comments? I just have to agree with Mr. Bayanna. I think that front all side, like it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense visually and I'm not an architect by any means. So I would like for Lotus just to really make sure that it makes sense. I mean, I don't know how best to explain it, but Mr. Bayanna did that ideally. Thank you. All right, I'm just going to go ahead and ask for a motion on this. I move to deny it. I second all hard. As opposed to deny, would anybody like to modify their motion to defer it? No, I don't want to defer it. My motion is to deny it and then we have a second, so I'll go for discussion. All right. That's all for the floor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. be giving Lordess a bit of a harder task now because it's going to her and if it meets the code it's going to meet the code and it's not like the project cannot proceed but it is going to go to her with the idea that you guys recommended denial on this project and obviously your comments are part of the record and your suggestions are part of the record but you are going to give her a bit more difficult time figuring out at what point and with how much modification she should proceed with this project. So again deferrals and option denial look you guys are well within your rights to recommend denial. I just want to put in mind so that you understand what will happen as this move forward. This certainly, I want to make this clear. A denial does not force them to go back and start from scratch or to come and present a different project. It does not do that because this is only a recommendation. So I just want to put that in your mind so that you guys have the context of where this is going and how this will proceed. I get a word denial of not existing normal category here. It is. No, it doesn't. People can't wait home. The fight you want. Okay. And then that's the reason I was recommending that we should. I know. On the amendment to the motion to defer it because if you want the opportunity to have the conversation with the applicant by deferring it, they'll come back here. If you deny it, they do not come back here. And as the city attorney explained, they will just be putting this on staff and, you know, staff will, you know, do what they know how to do with these areas they have. For the record, since the staff is carrying a big load here for the record, I think you always hear me say the time that DRC is held, and in this particular case, it was April 25th, at such time, and this particular home, I think it went back and forth with Stauva two or three times. The working drawings, as far as inconsistencies and so forth is improved very, very little. That's why I was so amid in just to say, okay, what size overhangs would you like to see? Because then it's not just coming from staff, it's the board, the house next door, homes of the style when they hear it from registered architects such as yourself. Obviously the working drawings, they're not gonna build the house hitting the roof, but when I look at it and that's what I see, obviously to me is not a well set of working drawings to be presented and move forward. But as far as them getting a good design architecturally, I don't see this house improving. And I think that's why sobriety feels OK, denial, because it's so poorly designed. But anyway. On the other hand, though, if it does meet the technical criteria and it does exactly of the code yes you know as as subra as Mr. Subrata said you know this is not a board of architects where we where this board can control what the aesthetics of the home look like. They are, you know, we are here to offer guidance, to offer, you know, what you believe that the house should incorporate it to make it better aligned with its neighboring properties. We have a very clear mandate of what this board's responsibilities are. And so I know it's hard to kind of keep that in check. It's hard to sometimes stay within those lines. And especially I'm sure for the creative minds here, who much better than I understand what's going on with the designs and everything, but unfortunately we need to keep it there and just remember that this will not come back even as a denial. And what this board really I think should be focusing on is giving staff clear indication of where to go with this as best we can. Understanding that we are not going to be able to impose all the changes that we might want as long as it meets the code, there really is no basis for not allowing this to move forward to a building permit. So I do urge you to bring it to a building permit. So I do. I'll bring it back. The deferral brings it back. I before all would bring it back. Okay, before all would bring it back. That's correct. And so again, I would ask if the maker of the motion would accept. Bring it back to make make What is the difference it's gonna make you know the thing is there's the design? Changes we might be able to make few have them agreed to some changes But some of those things windows. I don't know what we're talking about the roof meeting on the roof. Those are mostly drafting issues or design issues. When it goes to construction, I don't know how that will resolve the building. But like the issues that I'm thinking about, like as you come in, the first step is right there, you're almost hit your toe on that first step it's that kind of issues you cannot go through that project and try to fix those things for them. I point exactly I agree with you Rada that's exactly what I'm saying but I've also been advised that to look at the inside of the house which is very difficult because the outside of the inside as you know, it's a holistic. So it's kind of like saying don't look at the landscape or the look at the architecture where you do a landscape. I mean, you know, three routes have a three ball, they're big and you know and we don't see it. We know about it. Most people don't see it. So that's the kind of stuff that just doesn't make sense. And it's very difficult for us to really make sense of a logical step to move forward. What's the point? At the same time, I totally understand where you guys are coming from with that and at the same time, just as it's not your job to design this house for them. It's also not, you know, this is also a risk of presentation of these drawings and getting something approved or submitting something that later is going to have a problem. If they have a problem that they cannot build, it's great that we identify these on the record and you guys certainly help a lot of projects avoid pitfalls later. But if they come up with something that all of a sudden they're looking at and they go, well, we can't really build that. That's not anyone's fault, but, but the designer. And if that, they have to, they have to make hold on. This is, this is, they have to, and they may have to come back. This is very passionate for me. Let's stop right there. We're a moment. Then why do we have a design? Let's say for the moment, the house is so damn bad. We have a bad architect. We make our comments. It goes away, goes through staff, and now you've got an elevation that's being built on a neighborhood that is so damn ugly. Okay. They'll say, well, you left it to staff. And this is my point. So what am I just going to have a board? No, no, no, no, no, Mariano, let me, let me, let me kind of refocus that a little bit. You know, somebody's going to have a board? our subjective taste are kind of, they're not really up for question here, the subjective taste of the house. There are comments and the board's job is to work, to harmonize this and to point out where it can be, the harmony between this and the other properties can be improved, but it is not to make the aesthetic choices for the owner. And so as long as it meets code. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, that's not true. Because I got the code here. And the code says that we are responsible also to make sure that it's compatible with the neighborhood. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. These are the whole thing. So, and if we are still at quasi-judicial board, we do have a certain amount of power to make sure that it's done correctly. So I'm with the Brown Family. But it is a recommendation. It's a recommendation to stop our single family homes. Let's do this. There's a motion on the floor, there's a second, let's vote it up and down and then go from there because this is – I agree, I agree. So how – we are – we are in the denial right now on a motion, is it denial? denial and let's do – I have to leave internments for the day. No. So let's go up and down and then if there's a different motion after that then we'll deal with that. So can we do that? Subrata, you've called the question so go ahead. Subrata, how do you vote? Yes. For the denial. Yes. Where's the carat? How do you vote? Yes for the denial. Mr. Ray, how do you vote? Yes, for the denial. Mr. Cruz, how do you vote? Yes, for denial, I guess. And I vote no. All right, so it is denied and we will now hold on. Can we make a motion to defer? No, you had to amend that. Fair enough. Fair enough. That's why I voted no. Thank you for your contribution. The girl would have brought it back. All right. Moving on. Next item is. is ERB, I'm sorry, DRB 2024-039, applicant Simone de Cidadini, also the property owner, Simone de Cidadini, four La Teriel School, location 5960, Southwest 74th Street Street and the request is for exterior renovation. Mark is where I lost my okay. Yes, the architect is present here at the Chambers. So is the property owner. If you don't mind, please share in your screen. This is not a new construction home. It's in the Transit Supportive Development District. Again, the address 5, 9, 6, 0, Southwest 70. I'm sorry. I don't think there was sworn in. Yes, they were here at the chambers and they were sworn in at the beginning. The very first time, yes. They're present. All four of them, the property owner, the office manager, the architect, and the general contractor is present and they were all sworn in. With that said, if you're all familiar with the school, we have an existing one story building. Can you please put your rendering or your photographs up it says that I'm screen sharing I'm sorry my computer it says that I'm screen sharing oh okay we're looking at it you're you can see it okay because I have something different in the morning I don't I don't morning. I don't see it. I don't see it. Previous property. Okay. Yeah, I'm boundary. I see boundary survey. So you see the survey for the study at school, Subrata? Yes. Okay, great. Then I'll proceed. I'm looking at something completely different in my monitor. It's probably because Mark has stepped out for a minute. Okay. I'm shifting gears. I'm at a school. We have a one-story building and the request is for an exterior renovation is actually what they call a sky terrace. I'm not sure if you all have the opportunity to read the vision, the letter of intent from the property owner. This project was also first introduced to staff back in October of 2023, so it's really been a year since I've, with first introduced to this project. The one story building will have the sky roof terrace against the property line on that side, on that interior side I should say. To get upstairs to the sky terrace, we will obviously have a set of stairs and also an elevator to get you up there. As you can see that is the rendering and I'm going to give you a little background along with staff's report. The approval that the applicant is requesting from the board is to construct again the sky tariff. It's basically a new open to the Sky Terras to be built above the existing one-story building. The renovation includes a new pergular referred to us, the Sky Terras consisting of new stairs and the elevator lift. The roof plan shows the location, as I said, is basically towards one side. Those rectangular pieces that you see on that new section where the terrace will be located are actually solar panels. They're not, I think it's mentioned, but just want to throw that out there. And then you see the barrel tile on that section that is to be to remain. Okay, obviously what we're looking at now is the existing roof plan on the top and the second one that proposed shows the framing for the location of the terrace. As far as a height for this district, it does not exceed the maximum of all, it was 100 and will be at 24 feet six inches. So obviously it meets the requirements of the transit support development districts. When reviewing the plans prepared by Brian with red spear design, it is a step conservation of the plan select owners vision and concept. And the reason I'm saying that is because the rendering and the color elevations are not consistent. If you look at the rendering and you look at the elevations again you're going to see inconsistent. Similar to us the previous application although there's two very different and separate projects. But SAV has been struggling to get you a settle plans that really represents that visual that I was, even myself was so excited about. And once you're here from the property owner, this school has been with us for 30 years. And they really, and she'll probably want the opportunity. I really pray that you hear the passion coming from her, but it's something that she's really has her heart in. As far as staff, I feel that the plans like information, for example, as you can clearly see there, the ADA compliance for the whole entire scope of work. That was the first one. There is a ramp, as you can see, on the existing portion of the building, but then the elevator, there's no connection. I mean the board always expresses a connection of a driveway leading to the front door of a home. So when I see a project like this I think of the ADA and again but every stamp has had several tour three attempts on what every view is in the middle is it accurate. I mean I finally got some setbacks so we basically have that stair tie down as far as the location. But, you know, honestly, when you look at the elevations and it seems to be on a grid, these columns, but it really, it's not aligned. The plans are not consistent. So there's lack of coordination for the project. And those are the conditions in this report. I'm hoping that again, Mariano, I know by and as going to say, we're the walkway from the existing handicap parking space, how we're going to get to the lift. I mean, they do call it out as a wheelchair even lift. The scope of work is on the upper left hand corner there. So the pergula is painted white on the top, the stairs are black. As far as the perilla we don't know the size of the columns. They're drawn on the elevations, skinnier thinner columns on the bottom, thicker columns on the top, but then again the perilla has no size. So I've summarized that's conditions. I'm hoping that you can say perhaps with this visual and design colors as the rainbow. I want to get into the passion behind the project, but I'm hoping with the landscaping and shrubs with colors and so forth, Coral, that's where your expertise come in. So staff's recommendation for the project is for approval with the following condition. Update the plans to be ADA compliant. Update and provide column size. Update, coordinate the material finishes. Update provide the film colors for the rainbow effect. We have these, again, the visual, these are supposed to represent the rainbow and so forth, but I don't see a rainbow. I see like one color after the other, and I don't even know what colors these are. Supposedly, there's, and I understand that there's a film that's why condition number four mentions, updated, provide film colors for the rainbow effect. And last but not least, any comments and suggestions from the board? Ms. Zidani, if you would like to express your vision for the project before they start. Stayed your name for the record and thank you. Thank you. Good morning, members of the board. Thank you for your time. This is a, as mentioned, this is a pretty straightforward project. We are just proposing to- Can we get your name very quick- My name is Nathan Pritchard, I'm sorry. Thank you. We are proposing to utilize an area of the existing flat roof to convert it into usable space by constructing a terrace or deck area on top. We don't want to impact the existing flat roof with loading or drainage. So our intent is to build essentially a floating sub structure that will transfer the load of this deck to the existing exterior structural walls and leaving the roof framing untouched. And obviously we would have to make sure that the walls can handle that additional load. But we felt it was best to do that from a construction point of view. A couple of points of clarification. There are existing skylights that are frosted that we will keep as light wells. And we do have a wheelchair lift shown in the plan next to the stair that would, I guess to my opinion, provide or satisfy the AD requirement. In addition, we have been to address the issue with the color. We have been going back and forth. We do have a spec for a high performance vinyl film that would be applied to the clear railing or paneled railing that would provide the colors as shown in the rendering. So in this case the rendering is correct. So we absolutely can update our elevations to be consistent with what is shown here. And I don't remember the other comments but I'm happy to take any questions that the board may have. Okay at this time we'll open it up to public comment is there anybody in chambers or online that would like to comment on this item? There's nobody in chambers. And seeing that online will close public comment. Let's go ahead and start with Mrs. Brata. So I'm still trying to understand exactly the scope of the project. So you're basically I'm looking at a sheet A2-2. So that is, so you have a flat roof, existing flat roof on the back. And so you're creating a stair going in front of the existing slope roof building. And the bridge across and going into the flat roof area with a floating deck. Is that basically the scope? Yes. And then you're saying that there's a handicap or a elevator on the back of the stair. So how do you access that? Is that a walkway or I mean, so those are the kinds of things something they were talking about. How do you get it? The entire existing yard or outside area is just like a exterior carpet. There's no it's a play area for the kids so there's not we can obviously we can draw in you know defined walkway but to my mind the access wouldn't be an issue but you know there's no there's no objection to it say wheelchair surface accessible by wheelchair surface is that we're saying yes this is accessible by wheelchair yes okay and then when you go out there then it's what is the material on the floor and the what is the decking is that a composite decking. Super digging and then you have a superstructure that goes over the decking and then he'll solar panels. Correct. There's no solar panels. So we have existing. There are existing skylights that you can see in the existing roof plan that we want to keep as light wells for the space, the existing space below. So what we're going to do is basically on top of the existing roof build a substructure and then deck it with composite decking, but preserve those skylight locations as light wells and you know they would have a railing or you know some. and they would have a railing or some rectangular that you show. Those are decks, decking pattern. That's a decking pattern. The decking pattern is shown here, yes. Oh, so go back to the two by two dash two. Yeah, this is showing the purgola above the deck. Well, there's a portal above the deck. Okay. All right. Because I think the, didn't load this, mentioned in a staff meeting some solar panel. Yeah, I think that was a, there's no solar panel. I meant to say, I meant to say, I, I, I, I, that was incorrect. I meant the, the skylights. I said solar panels, but I was referring to the sky lights But the atarras is open and the the only issue that I had with the terrace itself is the size of the columns I don't have that information and also when you look at the The building upon a structure So is there an elevation of the, how it's going to look as elevation? Okay, but I don't see the columns and a lot of stuff. So here, the sheet that you're showing, A3, that has those colored panels. You're saying that that's not the way it's going to be? That's correct. In this instance, this was an initial idea, but we since found a solution that was more pleasing for the client's vision. And so the rendering in this case is more consistent with what we're actually proposing. And we just need to update the elevation to provide, you know, show the colors in a way that's more consistent with what actually will be. So like any form color? No, it's not a unit. It's a gradient type color that changes from pink to green. So it changes, that's how it's going to be installed. It doesn't change with light or time or anything like that. It's fixed, but it's gradient color. Correct. Alright, so is that the material? What is the material? Is that glass or something? Correct. It would be, you know, safety glass or plexiglass or something that obviously is rated for this application with a film applied. So it would be clear initially and then the film would provide the gradient. The glass is not integral colored. It's film applied. So it's going to be a, because with the temperature and all that it starts to be a little off and all that stuff. Right, so that. Our initial thought was doing an integral or integrated colored pains of glass, but because of the, you, you, you, you said it would take from the elements, we felt long term from maintenance point of view, it might be better to start off with a clear glass that would last longer. And then if the film degrades and the film could more easily be replaced or upgraded or whatever. And then what is the purpose of the deck? What happens here? Thank you. So the purpose of the deck is for the kids do have a play area on the ground floor. So this wouldn't serve as primarily as a play area. It would be for school functions. Maybe they might have supervised art classes up there, but it wouldn't be an area where kids are just kind of running around unsupervised because that would present a safety issue. This is more for supervised, again, exterior class projects or, you know, class functions and so forth. The player will remain on the ground level in the playground. So, I mean, that is a pretty substantial amount of space there, so there could be a number of, you know, the number of students or kids could be there is quite significant. So I assume that there's a structural engineer who's going to look at that structure that you're talking about, the floating structure, which is the extension of the existing walls, which to me does sound slow. Not very safe, but that's something that's structural engineering. Yeah, structural engineering and working on this. Assume. Absolutely. Yes. And we do admit that there's going to be additional loading that we'll have to ensure the current existing walls can handle with obviously the dead loading and the live loading. But we felt that it was a better approach than adding that additional load to the roof framing itself, which in our opinion would be a more substantial project as far as upgrading or changing the roof framing in order to handle that type of loading. So that's, we understand that there's gonna be implications both ways, but we felt that this was the path of least resistance. But obviously we have to, we are, we will engineer or are engineering this in order to ensure that whatever those dead and live load requirements are, that the existing walls can handle them, or we would recommend whatever retrofit would be needed in order for them to handle the additional living. So I am you know the one concern that I have is that you have it and right now you have a simple deck and then I can see Scope, Scree, Scree. Things can, people can start putting play equipment and other stuff, furniture and you said art projects and all that. I can see other additional stuff that's going on there. That's something that I think need to look at making sure that the deck is, because it's an old one story building. Right, here put a lot of stuff on top of it and to make sure that all that is safe and secure. But I think it's a good use of the space. And I'm not sure if that last thing kind of matches with the rest of the architecture, but then it's everything looks very colorful. I think it's a nice potential project. Thank you. Okay, let's have mr. Carous I guess I come from the old school Because one of the things that you know Sarato came here on the nose. What is the debt going to be used for? And so when you are for you are providing or you're proposing this, I started looking at what's around the fix this entire site. Why, one of my main concerns is just as a question. Life safety. If there's a fire down below or somewhere in here, is there a secondary area for the kids to be able to get out. Currently from the roof deck currently no. Yeah, from the roof deck. No. So that's something to take into consideration from that aspect. So you're going to have to calculate for life safety in terms of this deck. And the fire department is going to look at this. The only reason I say this is because my son and my father chief are drought and we talk about all this stuff. Okay. But so I'm going to stick to my landscape. And I'll let Javier and Sibrata and Daniel, but I want to bring up the point. So how can you screen this? How can you provide? First of all, did you say that the handicap will be able to come across the backyard because you're providing an artificial turf? The artificial turf exists. Currently. Oh, it's actually existing. Okay. So what can we do to be able to soften this? Because in reality when you look at it, it's very harsh. So I would like to see that you can come Black because this is very, very important to the kids and to de-orne. Anything that has to do with kids, I want to make sure that their lives are improved and the main thing is the safety. But we also have to look at it from the perspective of the community. This is a design problem and we look at many staircases that are designed around the world we'd like to say from that way that can really look beautiful complimentary and softwood. For me, so about the main look at it differently of year, I see a piece of metal going up to metal piece and a deck. That's the way I see it. From my perspective, I see those problems. We need to do something that begins to soften that facade deal, whether we add some shrubs, a couple of trees or something to that effect, something that can soften that area. So my recommendation is that that entire job zone, and let's go with the columns out for the staircase, that we do add something in terms of our strawberry. And since it is a school, wouldn't it be nice that you do something that the kids can learn about plants, like a butterfly garden or native materials that it becomes part of the educational system. So it becomes something that is interesting. Why are we not going into butterfly, what are we going to storm drainage system where it becomes a garden. So think to think about and that's the only thing is if we need to soften that staircase with some shelves underneath maybe we have one tree that begins to give you some shade back there too. I don't know what else to say on this. Okay, I appreciate your comments. Thank you, bro. Vice-Geroyana. Sorry. Thank you. Excuse me. If I could, is it, can I speak? Hello. My name is Simonetta Kittadini. I am the owner and founder of Lateli School. Part of it. Wish you sworn in. I apologize. Yes, I was at the beginning. Yes, they're here at the chambers. They're not on the zone. I understand. I just didn't know if she had been sworn in. Thank you. Thank you. First of all, I want to say thank you and how pleased I am to be here. I've been in the city since 1997 and I've been Through this department. I would say three times and Following the whole process of the city. So we chose it. See the South Miami specifically for nature Our school has I would say Many many mango trees and we've done everything possible to keep them. Our project at Latalia for the children and for the community really is very strongly rooted in planetary awareness and everything that we do at school has to do with community in mind. Not only our community of Latalia school but the community around us. So the first scope of this project is to have a sky terrace. We call it the sky because it has no roof. So it is about a school that offers its play, its space for the community. Not so much for art classes because we're not an art school, but to have opportunity to have space. Space means, you know, availability to be on top, walks, see the shadows, play with the body, maybe with some balls. Obviously all of this is related to having a very safe environment with appropriate railings and everything that has to do with safety. The stairs in terms of how it blends with the environment, I think that the design maybe is not as accurate as we've had it in mind, meaning that it should be a translucent kind of a colorful rainbow. That's what you mean by rainbow, which you see kind of the like or through, and that the transparency should bring in the aspect of nature. Meaning that our school is totally surrounded by all nature just like I see you in the image right here and the idea is that the terrace, the stairs kind of blend in with the environment around. We have vegetable gardens or kids all kinds of beautiful plants that the children are very aware of and the parents as well and we have a very strong going green committee with the parents because we actually want to protect that and we know that for the city of Miami the trees and nature is extremely important. As we speak right now, parents are meeting to have a butterfly garden planted so that these presents can really be strongly committed. Which means that also the idea is that some designs of children that have become actually very important graphics and let's say books that are sold to, let's say, provoked others to think more about nature could be part of some, let's say, the story of going up there in the sky, right? And how do we can see from above the beautiful foliage and trees that we see in the neighborhood, but also from our schools. So if we see with the hotel that we have in front at the parking lot and the tree behind, we're kind of the green island right there. Our trees are totally covering all of the area around and we absolutely want to keep that. So one of the scopes of the sky terrace is also for children to be able to see the foliage from above and see how beautiful it is to have nature that surrounds us. So I just wanted to compliment on this idea totally and completely agree with you. And in fact, everything that we do that Latalia has to do. First of all, with the benefit of community and of planetary awareness. Which means also that we would like to open this opportunity that the school has as a private school to the community. This is our 30th anniversary next year, we turn 30 years old. And we envision offering this space also for the children of the neighborhood, not only our children, but the families that would like to come and see what we do with our Vetsch of Garden, how we promote education and how we really take care of our community and nature. So anything that these terrorists can help, we would like to do that. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. We'll go ahead and move on to our vice-chair by any. Thank you. Good morning. We still have good morning. Good morning. How much longer? I really like the idea and the concept of the design. I really do, however, I do think is lacking a lot of information to make that happen. I have to be very honest with you guys because as you can see, you can see in the board, there are things I want to figure out so that we can help the clients and anybody in some way I'm going to achieve their dreams. And I was in front of your school the other day, picking up food from around the corner, and I saw a school at kids, you know, that, at some point, would have gone there. And I noticed all the mango trees and everything that you have there. I do think that there is a huge disconnect from the intent of what you're doing to what we are seeing as a presentation. It does lack a lot of information, but I also think that the design needs to be embedded so that the stare, not just there, the access world is cohesive, you know, with the geometry and everything there, it's sort of like place out there. And I think that you're going to be, you know, stairs are very taxing when it comes to its forefootage. And so you're biting into the middle of your playground, which if you start looking at the map, it's about 30% or more, or the ones you consider the landing and whatnot. And so it's kind of strange that the stairs just sits there. Mariana is correct. That is going to be looked at from a code standpoint as an assembly area. Even though it's an outdoor area, it's going to be an assembly area. Even though it's an outdoor area, it's gonna be an assembly area. And I think you're gonna be over 50 people there. Maybe you're not intending to put 50 kids there, but the way that the city or the building, the apartment or the apartment we look at, this is in a place of assembly. And if you decide to sell, you're building to somebody else, somebody will come in and bring and put in a place of assembly. And if you decide to sell, you'll build into somebody else, somebody will come in and bring and put in a restaurant there. And so they see the structures on the design that we do as something that will be really available and code compliant for everybody. And the fact that it has only one point of access and one point of Egrace is going to be an issue, as I mentioned, if there's an unfortunate event or a buyer or something at the ground level, you have what is called a dead end and you only have one exit there. So I would love to design, to be successful and see it happen, but I think it's lacking a lot of information. The elevator is also what is called, is not a elevator, that would be, or at least what is shown, it seems to be what is called the industrial lula. I live as limited use, limited access or limited care member. Yeah, it's a wheelchair lift. I wouldn't classify it as an elevator either myself. Yeah, but what that means is that it's really not accessible because those, that's why it's called limited use because it's only for certain uses as in like a residential Unit or as an apartment. So this is open to public and if you have a person with with some level of Discapacity, I don't know what the right word is, or handicap, you are not allowing that person to get there. So that further by itself is not going to work. This is a public space. I know, comes into the building, is that gonna be able to get up there? That's a, those applications are very limited in use. So you do have to consider a real elevator and that's gonna throw the design way to another room. So I like the concept, but I think there's a lot of information that hasn't been embedded yet. And it's important because it's a great place, it's a great space, and you'll be a great user of the area that you have available there. But it also means that the rules of that existing building, and I'd be even mentioned that it has to go, and you keep in the structure, I'm not sure if that's the case, because I don't think that you could just place a deck above it. An acupyvel terrace, it's also a roof, which means that it has to perform the waterproofing capabilities of a real roof without a deck. So how would you deal with that? I mean, you know, there's ways, but I don't think that you are really very mean through. So it's just lacking a lot of information overall. I mean, we can talk about that, but we can also talk about the elevator, we can talk about the stair location, this fair configuration, the second point of ignorance, there is a lot here to be looked at. And so that's my, those are my two sides. And I just add something to that, your brother, that whole fair location, it's really something that just sticks out like a sword thumb and it takes up a lot of valuable real estate from that playground the middle of the you know open space you know the decking that I see to the side of the how existing house or existing building that doesn't seem to be that that much of a useful space. I would do a stair going the side of the side of the how side of the building go up to the deck instead of putting the stair right in the middle of the playground area So that's one thing that I would you know look at considering if the stair can go perpendicular to the deck. I don't actually disagree with that. In fact, our first stair location was there, but we decided to move the stairs because there are two, actually on both sides of the, on either side of the end of the building because there are two, actually on both sides of the, on either side of the end of the building there are two very large mango trees and we after collaboration with the landscape architect, we realized that there was no way that we could build the stairs in either of those side locations without having to infiltrate the tree protection zone which would then lead to having to remove the tree and then mitigation, et cetera. So this was actually, the current state location was born out of a result of that, but I don't disagree with any of your thoughts otherwise. All right. So Sarada, let's see if Miss Cruz has some comments and I will try to land this. Miss Cruz? Yeah, I've actually been into the school a while back ago and I always felt that they were in need of additional outdoor space. I've been out there with the kids playing. I think that if we could get this to meet all of its compliance, of course, safety first and everything additionally, I would love to see it come to fruition because I do think it's going to add a lot of value to the students, their experience. And she's been at this for a long time in terms of her schooling and we can see this, you know, have an an outcome I think it would be really really great. Thank you. I would just summarize that the I think everybody's echoed the same thing and to the applicants comments it does seem forced and now we have a reason why it's forced to the location it's in. I do believe that the due to the size and use, you do need a second egress. Whatever we do today, I don't know that this becomes a reality without having that second egress. And so, you know, I would lead with that, that this business needs to be completed. Other than that, I'd like to see this space activated. I'd like to see, you know, the school and the community benefit from it, but it definitely needs, I think, some more attention to it to get there. With that said, can I ask for a motion? Mr. Garrett, one last thing to mention to the architect. The biggest problem was having, I could not understand what you were showing. So once I went to Google Earth, now I understand what's happened. And I think what it was, too, you show a plan A2 only of this site. You don't show how this is connected to the building on the side, the open space piece of property adjacent to that. And I would have asked the question now that I saw it. Do we know, do we just know, is anybody proposing anything at this time? Is anything being proposed there that's going to affect also the because it is going vertical There's going to be a lot of shade a lot of things up begins to affect this thing As far as the mango tree The hell of a mango tree put this staircase there We can always we can always add more trees later on But I'm looking at it and I agree with you brought that if you had on the side you might work better, okay, from that aspect and you have more playing field for the kids. So the presentation where I look at the survey, if that were shown, what you were proposing on top of that, that shows the street and more of the building on the side, the land and had more information from that aspect graphically. I think it would have helped a little bit better for our understanding that. If I lazy was for me, I'm glad I went to Google Earth to see what was going on. But the hell were the mangos? It was all the things. Could I be honest? can we get a motion? How do we go about this? I just think that there's not enough. I don't want to hurt them. I mean, I want to help. Right now we present situation. Present. The way it's presented. I don't think we have enough information to. That's the thing. The way it's presented, I don't think we have enough information to just to get some note. So board members, just on this one obviously, this is different because this is an actual approval on the site plan that is required from this board before it can proceed. there if there are NFPA issues for egress right now and or ADA issues or all other stuff all other concerns that you guys have brought up those will be addressed at you know at the building permit stage and yes, does it have the potential to significantly affect this site plan? It does. And in that case, that'll be on staff to say, are we still substantially in compliance with the site plan and with the intent of this board and approving? This site plan or does the changes that need to be made to meet all other required codes and all other required life safety and everything require this it has those codes change this site plan so much that it needs to come back here to be seen again. That is the motion for deferment. The latter, Alex, the latter. There's not enough information. And thereby when you come back and say, by the way, I need two stairs and a little bit later. We have a motion. The site plan completely. Never mind. Never mind. To decide how they want to move forward. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. Never mind. to decide how they want to move forward with it. Do we have a motion to do a second? I make a motion for the firm. Thank you. We have a motion in a second. Any further discussion? Well, I just, I mean, the only discussion I want to think I want to say is looking at a survey, it does not reflect what the site plan shows. So I think there are a lot of inconsistencies. They really need to come back with, you know, the architect mentioned, or I think he's not, mentioned mango trees on the side. I mean, I see a wood deck and there is a mango tree, but you know, I don't see why cannot have a stair going up the side of the building either side of the building and the other side. There's no wood mango trees. So those kind of things, I think they need to look at a little bit more carefully and come back with their new revised site plan. Yeah, I mean, I'll just add to the discussion since we have discussion. I think everybody's intent is to see the space activated and for the school and the community to benefit from it. But, you know, we all do respect to the city attorney and others. I don't think this board is here just to rubber stamp things and then hope it all gets taken care of in the future. I think, you know, there's clearly some forced items here and some opportunity to improve this design to represent it. And so with that said, Mr. Shabrata, how do you vote? What are my voting on? We deferred. Yes. Yes. Mr. Ms. Crowe. Absolutely. And remember, public safety for the kids. That's the most important thing. Vice-Chirvina. Yes. Ms. Cruz. Yes. And I too, but yes. We look forward to seeing your improved design so that we can move this through and activate that space for the children and the community in a safe manner. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Do we have any conversation on the meeting minutes? Wait. Didn't they say we? We're up to approve. Okay. We have a motion to approve. We'll be on second. Sorry. We have a motion to second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Hearing none, the motion carries. Our next meeting is and my other computer froze. I don't see my agenda November 19 November 19 Tuesday November 19 Okay, very good is there's no new business. We can go ahead and adjourn this meeting Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Bye. Bye-bye. you you