from the police officers in the United States. And bringing home safe to the families, and then please protest out with them. And many women that serve in the armed forces here and overseas just bringing home safe. Everything we do in the state, we give you praise and glory. Jesus Christ, I'm not right. I mean, I'm not right. The flag of the United States of America, and the Syrian Republic Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all of us. On your comments, period. We have one person signed up. Mark Lido. Yes, he's Mark. on the marked leader. Yes. He marked. Speedy name in the address. And I will tell you that the mags are playing great. It was resuming petition. The president of the department of drama has. He's having a movie drama. Okay. But please let us know your concerns about it. Well, our concerns were again, when I mentioned last time we're here with the property values which were addressed, the rezoning compared to, didn't want to open up more channels for rezoning as properties around us which are still kind of open. The concern was based on the petition before, it was like no parking, blocking the road with fire trucks, etc. etc. and also the septic system. There's more touring, and I was trying to get some answers because I'm more to worry about new construction. And this is a new construction. So that's kind of our comment. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Anybody else wants to say something? David, we'll speak at the public hearing. Probably. Yeah. So this is just. Broadcast. Yeah. So this is just open public comments. Yeah, that's what I want to do. All right, 20 seconds. OK, we're getting through it. Thank you. Thank you. I want to take the opportunity to thank everyone on the board, the mayor, mayor proteana, the staff, everyone who helped facilitate our new building project on Potter Road and Pleasant Plains. Everyone who helped facilitate our new building project on part of road and pleasant plans. It took a lot of effort from a lot of people and I appreciate all the hard work that was put in. And that's really all I have to say and just to, you've taken away my thunder about the Zoni. But I just have a small thing to say about that and it applies to the future. I understand that we have a real sewer capacity issue and that we would have better or with absent development around the new hospital if we have sewer capacity. And I know that's a county issue, but I think that I just like to ask that we always keep sewer capacity in mind when we think about expansion. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Professor. All right, anybody else want to speak to the insider? Yes. Can you just come on and give us your name and address please? Sure. My Brad Craver. My address is 1506. I'm a big drive. 214. I'm getting into the board. So I'm here to make three points. One is I'm here to express my displeasure with the increase in the city tax rate, the town tax rate that was recently passed. Secondly, I would like to caution board against following and following with the memorandum on this ERTPO. You'll find in section L1, the following verdict, the required local match shall be paid by the municipality or county that is using such funds. That local match shall be shared among all municipalities and counties, per rate up based on population. CRTPO could eventually incur additional taxes upon the town. And I just caution the council against seating mention my concerns with the expenses that you're reviewing today for the HVAC refurbishment for the Town Center. I think it's very concerning that there's not more information available for a $250,000 expenditure that's only agenda. I hope that we can get some more information on that during the meeting. If there's no more information on that, I must say it seems like a very expensive amount to repair an HPEX system that's less than five years old. That's all I have. Thank you. Well, you do have no comment, but I was on a stark room situation. Brad Richmond is on the committee to address it. What I'm going to do is ask us since he's not here tonight to explain to the council. There's just a detailed document. I'm not asking us to take it off the agenda. We've no Brad. It's that where I'm actually going to be. I don't think we're in the meantime, Crunch. Are we hearing? They do request it back by September. I can't remember if that today I'll talk my head, but the council would need to decide by the September 9th meeting. Yeah, we got one meeting before the... I believe so, I would have to triple check that. All right. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you, Brad. Thank you, board. Anybody else? All right, thank you all for coming in. So I'll turn it over to Chief Frank. Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'd like to take a moment to recognize Lieutenant Heath Prankford. I'm sure many of you have seen him and know him. But on July 23rd, he celebrated his 20th anniversary with the Staling's Police Department and Heath is the last of the original 13 officers hired in 2004. Heath started his career in 2000 of the Matthews Police Department, was there for four years. Staling's his hometown and when they started the Police Department, he wanted to come home. Since then, he has worked as a patrol officer, patrol sergeant, detective sergeant, currently detective lieutenant, and he is our accreditation manager. So we want to honor Heath with a certificate recognition for his 20 years of service with the Staling's police and he will get a 20-year service ribbon to wear on his uniform. Heath, any comments? No. I appreciate that you have the knowledge of my men. I've enjoyed working here. I grew up here, this is where I want to be. Thank you very much. Thank you, see you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, see you there. Oh, gee. And I want to wish one of the heaviest twice-been awarded Hofstra the Year, which is voted on by his peers. So twice since 20 years he has been an omnivotive source of the Bruns Hofstra here. Thank you. Sorry, you have to sign. Oh, it's hurt though. Cheers. Good. Thanks. All right, next up is our agenda of groom. Does anybody have any changes? The minimum edition? Relations? So I would add for questioning, an item for a quick discussion on the potential rock deal church room development. It won't be in solid, but it will impact number of solid residents. Can I ask a question to all of the folks before we vote are going to have to vote it. Yeah. All right. So, Alex sent three projects to us to take a look at the link of recommendation because County passed us for recommendation. Oh. Correct. Alex? That's right. Yes sir. So, I would, we're going to do this. I'd like to add all three of you to the agenda. Make a year-day based on what they've sent us. Of course, it's not full information, but the industry that happens a lot of the other ones, I think probably one of the other things. And I'm glad with that. I know the one is coming up for two solution ticker on the hammering up quickly. So I'm like, you know, to go on. Yeah, I'm about quickly at the same time. I'm about to go carefully. Yeah, do we need to do that in close session or open session? I'll be the recommendation. All right, sir. Well, they were already in the agenda. Let's make it the three-week campaign bonus. I think we got enough stuff on here. You have that one. All right, any other? And then do we need to remove the consent agenda. Yeah. Thank you. I'd like to remove these. I'm going to try to get you here. I'm going to apply it. I'm going to apply it. I'm going to apply it with that. All right. I'm going to get a motion in. All right. I want a motion to approve the consent agenda. No. Okay. I'm in motion to approve the consent agenda. Okay, I'm kind of jumped around a little bit there. So, I'll move to approve the agenda with the addition of the three meeting county projects. And the issue of proper for my community. Okay, removing the CRPTO board memorandum from the Mr. Hall, all there. I have. That's it. Thank you. You're last name, right, Grant? All right. The first step is resigning 24.06.01. Oh, excuse me. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. The first step is report from the mayor. I wasn't going to get this back in the evening. So it's going to be here tonight. I forwarded that email about the mural to the council. They want us to come up and give us a quick summary of what's going on. So, surprise, I saw that. Yeah, since you all have somebody to help you. So, a few months ago, what we did is there is a local muralist based out at Charlorland. Her name is Heidi Nistat. She's done some work for Crayington, North Carolina area, the Virginia Creeper Trail. And what we have kind of worked with her to do is she is going to take the back of one of our shelters in the park and convert it into a big mural and hand painted. It's beautiful. We're in the second draft phase so when we get kind of to the final piece, next consummate against September, we have it on the agenda for you guys to see the full picture, approve it and move forward. Now that you've all seen it, it might be a little bit easier, you know, severe feedback. That way, when I come to you guys with September where I can get your final stamp of approval, the whole point of this is it looks very similar if you're ever familiar with Bloor and Rock. They have a big mural that says greetings from Bloor and Rock. It's kind of a picture that you can take in front of. This will be the same concept. They'll say welcome to stallings. Each letter has a different historical piece and it also ties in the presence as well. The stallings just in time celebrate the 50th in January. So as long as everything goes smoothly, y'all love the design, and I'm September, she'll actually be able to start on in mid-October and then we finished before January 1st. So yeah, I'm really excited. She has been wonderful to work with. And she is beautiful. Yeah. Thank you, you're in this? Yeah, of course. When did you send this up? So long. Yeah, of course. When did you send this up? Seven. Oh, that was just a moment. Yeah. That was when it was twice. So yeah, any questions? Well, the other thing is, when I saw in the instance, she brought this to the stroke of the ring. And Houston, that there are Texas general rams, they have similar minerals. You know, we have two huge pieces of the concrete on those, and that Texas Center, they have similar murals. You know, we have two huge pieces of concrete on those. And that Texas turnaround, they're just sitting there. And what they do in Houston is they have artists got murals on those walls. So, all my nurses, they're gonna cost you this small amount of your children's to do one of those walls down there. But, you'll see, you'll get this beautiful, beautiful town, give this beautiful, good representation of who we are. Yeah, take a look at the picture and they said it's really exciting. And the cool part is we're getting the rights to the digital image that she has to mask produce as we wish. So yeah, it's done. So thank you Mayor. Thank you. All right, for from any council room. Great. No mayor, but I do apologize actually. There wasn't another item for the agenda. The roundabout that lawyers outside of the MLA, who there's going to be just maybe an update from Alex. Yeah, we don't need that. John, I think you just let him give up. No, no, all right. Can you do anything? No, all right. No, sir. David. Quick, by grandkids, visit it and enjoy our town parks. Now, I enjoyed it. My wife enjoys it, but they see it from a kid's point of view. It's really cool because that's what they're doing. A lot of them are what they're made for. And you know, so I really appreciate the good job of putting the barriers in place at the end of the greenway. I put it to good use, by the way, with their scooters and they're only 43, so they're running on electric scooters and put scooters in. But they haul. And they had a great time on our town parks. I was great to see them. And actually appreciate all the parks and wrecks are worth making. And for the repairs I've seen and mentioned it a fast, fast turnaround on that. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Council. All right, Alex, what do you have for tonight? Thank you, Mayor you, Councilor. All right, Alex, what are you up for tonight? Thank you, Mayor. Just several things and all the item that Councilmember Paul brought up here, I'm going to go and explain that. So, several things, first budget line item, transfer list, submitting it to the board, to the record. I could see tax educational materials. Miss Nichols has kind of helped develop a campaign just to kind of educate residents and business owners and people who frequent these challenges. Just basic questions, things that we might know of being a little bit of perhaps that person who's going to develop box does not. So if you have any feedback, let us know. Just most basic things. There'll be a social media campaign, things like that. But I think the Snuckles has done a great job here and earned anything to add. No, we just want this to be really simple. I mean words like occupancy tax or referendum maybe terms that people just aren't really sure exactly what they mean. So that's the point of this, so that when they get to the polls they know what they're voting on. I'll note that I was asked today whether short-term rentals would pay the occupancy tax and the answer is yes they would just like hotels. That would cover the Airbnb. That's right. Then finally, or several more things. So our police department is Klee accredited. It's been a, I guess three or four year Odyssey really. We recognize Chief Frank's in our police department. We'll have a proper ceremony, but this is a big, big deal. Again, years and years went into this. Lieutenant Kramer got out of here quick, but he was our moment person, the chief of his sign, the help of our policies, although it was all men and the women at the police were. So it's big for a lot of big reasons. One, it saves us money, insurance for games, decrees, we get a discount with the lead. And then also it gives us amongst other things, confidence that our police were probably not only has policies that are meeting best practices, they can apply with those policies. And if they're messed up, they've met it under disciplinary actions, things like that. So I think this is a big, big deal. Something we've been working towards for years, it's Chief Frank, Kimmel Ward, so great job by them. Also, they reported to me that farmers, the sunny day, farmers at Staling's Farmers' Market is doing really well. You'll recall one of the challenges that we had when the county was running the market, which is really, is getting a lot of traction and business going there for them. And so, we're contracted with a new group and this is really, is a really test case for whether this market can kind of support the farmer's market, the board envisions for helping spur it down to Hurricane Center. So, early receipts are good as far as what vendors are making. It's still a long way to go so far. So that I want to recognize Ms. Donley about 7-6-1 to for all the work that she's done, as well as to worry to kind of find the right people and put them in the right places there. Finally, I'm going around theabout at the intersection of the order, and no black-red entrance, DAT, as we all know now, if you've been by the way, is putting in a roundabout. Now when it was initially posed, we were under the impression that we would have a planting in the middle. At some point, apparently DAT told us, as one resident, we know that there would have a planting in the middle. At some point, apparently, DOT told us, one of the residents of that, that there would be spots for planting this in the middle. However, it seems as though during the design process, DOT looked at it and said, the roundabout is so small, that we think that if there's planting in the middle, that trucks are just gonna run under it, he gets swish and's planning in the middle, that trucks are just gonna run on a grid, they get squished and ruined, whatever they're doing. Outer they heard some feedback from elected officials that said that, hey, we really like to have planning over there, it's already operational on DOT, DOT contact immune Friday, pretty late. And so, hey, we sound be interested in adding claimings to the roundabout. And from there, I've sent out a message to all the council members letting me know the facts. The cost is high to do it, much more higher than I think we thought in order to even get the concrete out of the way, get basically dirt layer planning, runs and can do it under the line so that you get added irrigation in the future. DOT's estimate to us was about $50,400. I can get you the exact number if you like it, but that was the roughly. And that's not the plantings, it's not a design for it, it's not the irrigation system. That's just to basically get the bed of their straws. So, in here and feedback from y'all, I know there were some skepticism and concern like this whole responsibility standpoint. Totally get that, but TOT is looking for an answer fairly quickly because the construction is ongoing in this part. So, I hope that was helpful. Happy to explain your answer to any of the questions that you want to have. Alright, let's get a few sensors from everyone. Well, I'll tell you that when we talk about the roundabout at the other end of town, you know, we spoke about that, but this one was finished, we would be okay, right? Talk about potentially the okay with the cost of actually doing the planets. I mean, I guess I'm kind of hesitant to pay DOT to redesign something that sounds like they already had a desire for it to begin with because that was the way it was originally intended to get. So I also think that they can get the county, maybe the county would ship in some way to help their redesign of the wood to best it makes. It just seems like a lot of money for people they've already got on staff to do the work. So, I know some new. It's a no to the 50 grand. If they did it, I'd be for paying for the plant like this in the summer. 50 grand over time, right? Yeah, I think with the size of it, I always like to see plenty of the center of the ground drop. Because it is small, you're driving at trucks. I agree with them. The trucks are going to be running over. And you know, fire trucks and kind of trucks. I can't see. I'm going to move. So where? I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I can't see. I'd love to have it, but in 2000s too much, especially when you're probably talking 20,000 more for your nation. I don't know. Thank you. No. I will remind you of the ATO T-Thones. It's not that it's us at all about this project. Yeah, if we start to figure it out. So, we're going to come back and ask if the DOG did this, it's a little bit, where it comes from. It takes a lot of the nerve back, I'm like $50,000, but you didn't ask me. I think this is a good product, you know. So, thank you. Well, I would just also add, we asked you to go to the right and we were proactive. So I want that to be clear, like we were proactive, we requested pay can put in plans to be right and they said no. Would you like me to say here we'd be open to talking about it. We're not interested in paying for redesign. That fair? No. No. We're just saying no. No. No. To flat-net. Like that. All right. Chief, you got anything for us tonight? No, no, so we've rescheduled that National Line Act Procter of the First. Right. I'm going to cancel. I have no sign. Dr. Rwanda. Do you get anything else for us? To this court, we service in project. They pressure wash today and hopefully more of that actually start getting it together. So that'll take about ten business days is what they told me. So her kind of closing the court's down until Labor Day. That's what we're thinking. Well, I'll done it cheap. I was at the farmers market. The lemma clock in the morning, there was no pickle balls, but there were two people, four people playing tennis. So this is my two cents worth. That decision has already been made. Thank you, Ian. Alrighty. That decision is already made. Back again. All righty. So our first step is rezoning. Oh, rezoning 24.06.1. We're back for that. Hello, thank you, Councilor. We'll open them up. All right, so let me see. So I'm here to present RZ2040601. It's a general rezoning for SFR3, sorry, that's a typo, which is single family residential 3 to commercial 74. So the stalling's fire department requested the rezoning for 291-6 Matthews in the entrail. Currently, like I said, it's single family residential 3 and they want to do C-74. It's 3.79 acres in size. The current use is residential. And the request of zoning for C-74 does allow a variety of commercial businesses, but I do think the intent of the Stonx Fire Department is to build a fire station which is allowed in the C-74 zoning. But there are a variety of commercial businesses so I do have a use table in case you need to see all the uses that are allowed in C-74 but there's two different uses on here so that's just for reference. Any new development on-site that still have to comply with tree-safe buffers open space landscaping, including like a fire station. This is the current street view of the property. You can see there's an area. It's quite large. It's across from the new development Bailey Mills townhomes and very close to Scott Park Tervative as well. Surrounded by residential zoning, mixed- zoning, and sea zoning for zoning. So they would want to change this yellow or orange to pink, which allows fire stations. The future lane use is walkable activity center. It does promote commercial businesses and walkable activity center. The staff does think that walkable activity center is consistent with the C-74 zoning, according to the definition. There's no small area planned for this area, but it does have greenway master plan identified for this area. And the types of greenways that are required for this zoning is urban spines of urban spines in typical greenway, which was located right here, so if the property was to develop, they'd be able to choose the developer, or the thoughts on the fire department would be able to choose whichever one they wanted to build out of the three. We have a neighborhood meeting on July 10, which about six people are to knit overall, and you do not receive any opposition. So the rezoning. They're planning for it also recommended approval of the July 16th meeting. So staff is recommending that RZ24-0601 be approved. We believe it's compatible with the small of the future lane use plan, the conference lanes plan, the walk left to the center, future lane use plan, the conference lane use plan, a walk-let-to-the-center future lane use, and it aligns with the town schools for allowing different types of businesses, including all these good uses that are allowed in the C-center for work. You know what I'm saying? I'll open the program here. Hello. I'm sorry. Sorry, I just went ahead and put it in. I'll open the program. Hello. I'm sorry. Sorry. Put it ahead. I need a question for Max. Did you say that the parcel to the board like this is already C74? It is. Oh. OK. Anyway. Can you tell me what this is? I think it's on page three of your recommendations. So, I'm going to offer stormwater, they don't have to space a flight of the property where to be redeveloped. I probably said I'm applied to the property. Sorry, that's another type of online. And currently the use is seen to family residential. So any development, a redevelopment of a property would be required to do, true safe buffers, stormwater in this place. Okay, that's in the code that they do that. It isn't available anymore, it's here. Okay. What's on there? Can you explain if they could choose any one of the three variants of the green line? Yeah, so as the green line master plan is written. So here's an orange line that is, this is the property. It shows the orange line on the property. It's very hard to see. And the designations are vague in the greenway master plan. But it says that this is a C6 greenway trail, which trail types are that are allowed in urban spline, so urban spline in typical greenway. So that means that these are the three that are allowed are urban splines, so urban splines in typical green light. So that means that these are the three that are allowed and that we have a, there's, it's there's no requirement that they have to build a specific one that they would be able to choose. I can recommend one to them. And I'm sure they would want to do something that town would want to do, but I can't require them other than to follow one of these three plans. Then when we get the others developed along the way, I want to say halfway, and we have a mission mashup design because they get to choose which they want. It's possible. But I would say a staff would not recommend projects that wouldn't match. Wouldn't we want staff to, but we recommend this one to all of them. It's not a requirement, but we recommend this one to keep it consistent. Yeah, I do believe that would probably require an amendment to either this plan or the development ordinance or something more concrete in ordinance. As it's written right now, it just shows multiple trail types that are allowed. It doesn't say you must or should. My only use is to recommend this. Yes, we could, we, until that's changed or we do change it, but I think, I don't think it would look kind of weird having a wish-wise should feel a different size. It would be weird. That is my concern. So would you, which one would you recommend? I know which one I would prefer. Well I don't believe there are too far in the design phase. I would probably say probably a suburban sponge. It's not in urban town, it's not an area. But they're not close to any design phase as far as I'm aware. They're just doing the reasoning So bail noose does have greenway show another side of the road, but the Greenway master plane doesn't specify which side of the road I wish I had a road to the environment on both. In front of the hospital, they've got the suburban type, right? I believe so, yes. Max, can you make a note for us to come back in the future and just make an update to the plan on this? Maybe you're working with Venus just thinking out loud and maybe we simply had you know the planning director and consultation with Parks and Raptor Actor. Determined the appropriate green way of the choices that are given and making it more of our requirement that way we don't have to mismatch. The earthquake is not a lot of work for you all when you go through and do all updates. For sure. Yeah, it was developed by a person, right? And it's kind of like an enforceable document by planning things. Yeah. Right. So, yeah, we definitely need to work in. Yeah, absolutely good. Thanks. All right, any other questions from us? We'll be back. All right. We're going to represent even the fire department here. Did you want to sit right? I got a couple questions. Yeah, I got a couple questions. Oh, okay. Appreciate you coming out of the problem. Oh, and you are? Justin, Jack, moments. Okay. What's the timeline as far as construction or what are you all doing? So obviously we want to get the follow as quick as we can. We have another ISO inspection coming out and it's actually doing about two years. What's going on probably at the happen is we need a year's worth of data with the new building being operational before we can really do that inspection that way of course that affects our insurance rates in the county and the towns in the county. We are currently looking with certain builders and talking about design aspects, whether it's two Bay, station, or three Bay, station, the layout, things like that, but we have no actual true drawing yet to speak of. Well, that was my next question. So we're just in the concept for it. Yeah, like three acres and yeah, obviously it's on slant. Yeah, so there's got to be some work and it's going to be a smaller station. We're not trying to build one size of that. It was a great location. Yeah, it's going to be very good for us because we got the bypass where I am at the hospital and obviously they are all our big town homes and obviously right across the street. Yeah, they are very, very easy to drive. Yes, they have never been all that easier for us. But yeah, currently we are still in the drawing phase. Just one question. What was the response time to get to that fairly close? I want to say that was six minutes. Six minutes? What was the response time to get to that fairly good? I want to say that was six minutes. Six minutes? I want to say, I would have looked it up. It was five, six minutes. It was obviously we had paid staff, so they were in the house in the station. I think there was a little slight pick up on the dispatch side because it was called in as something other new fire. So we were behind the ball, of course, if we were 30 seconds across the street, it would have been a lot easier for us. Any other questions? You said the ISO would use coming up? Yes. If that's fully functional and working properly and the data is there, how many points would I soak throughout you guess. So we were very close to a one and I'm straight D. You know, the idea of how the system works. A one is the lowest, which is obviously the best we can do, where a class two right now. So we were very close to that. When it comes to the big thing that hurt us in the last one was the deployment analysis portion. So we need a fire station basically every two and a half miles within our cover area to get the bonus points to get a drop per minute. So we're looking at the station here that will reach everything off the stall and road to the county line and then we're going to be looking at a station three towards Chestnut and Potter area that cover the other side here. So that's obviously in the five or ten year plan, but this needs to do with the next five. So we would have the possibility of dropping to a one. That's good. Thank you. Yeah. Any other questions? All right. Thank you for coming. No problem. All right. I'll close the public hearing and then count to your discretion. Any other further questions from Max? All right. We'll leave it. So what's the question to cancel? We'll leave it down in 24.06.01. We'll make a motion to pass this week's only as stated, RZ24.06.01. We'll move forward. All right. Motion by Mr. Shove. We'll make a motion to pass this rezoning as stated in RC 24.06.01. Motion by Mr. Shove, we'll send it by any great office to approve this rezoning. All favor? All right, all right, all right. So we have a statement of consistency in the approval of this. And we have to approve the approvalandment, stated that the top council fathers and the term was at the zoning minutes consistent and the reason over the key guy and the principal of goals and objectives of a conference plan just by the following reasons. So there's no state of sort of replacements in the right hand out. So I get a motion to approve the state and the consistency of the regionalist. Tell me. Mr. Nguyen. Thank you. Mr. Nguyen. Thank you. Mr. Nguyen. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's a tie. You both get a tie. All right. All in favor. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Max. All right, next up is NSP24.05.01, Adrian Masterstein, kind of minutes, and I'll look at the clock again. Turn it on that. Okay. So this is my first Masterstein Plan, and then our first Masterstein Plan. So Adrian helped the hospital requested a amendment to their master sign plan. They submitted the master sign plan and the originally did the development room for that new hospital. Currently the signs that they requested. So I have some history on the master sign plan process. I'm going to skip down to they're adding two signs. One, a directional sign, to direct people to, I'll start with the main entrance sign actually. They're adding this main entrance sign and it does meet exceeds the size requirements in our ordinance. So they're requesting an amendment to the sign, plan to add this sign. The roles are requesting an emergency main entered sign as exceeds our requirements and our ordinance as well. So these two signs, they're adding to the overall sign package and that is the master sign amendment. They're also representatives here as well. They're not changing any of the other signs, you're just adding here as well. They're not changing any of the other signs of just having these two signs. All right. Any questions from that? We've been set 1,000. Is that the address? Yes. Yeah, good. I'm not sure. I don't know the exact same address. Yeah, I'm not sure. Healing way. Yes. No other questions from that? All right. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. I'm not going to be a doctor. really some of our patients, some of our community members at Assault Care and they've come to the wrong location and you're in the medical emergency every second count so this will be to get them to the correct location as quickly as possible. It's not about promoting atrium, it's about getting people to the right place. Thank you. Michael, what is your job? I'm the vice president operations. Operations? Yes, and Seth is our facility. And Seth, you know, runs the hospital, right? Ah, he has just a big cheerleader. Well, while I got you out here, I said, you've been in two years now, and so the responsibility community has been outstanding and we're just so glad you're all here and look forward to your expansion and just hopefully we can get some sewer there, put some restaurants around there so we can have someplace out of the... I think that's a good idea. We'd like to eat together, try our chicken sandwich. Thank you. Thank you all for everything, you're welcome. Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You've been approved. I'm close to public hearing and I get a motion from the council. Make motion to approve the master, issue a master plan, sign, plan and amendment, MSP24.05.org. How's the deck? All right, we're going to show them the second round of these drinks. All in favor? All right. That's heavy. All right. we're just going to move on to the show, second round of the drinks, all in favor. Hi. All right, I'll say it. I don't know any. Thank y'all. Next up is our texting in at 24.06.01. It's going to be a parking link for regulations. So I'll come to the front here and then we've got media coming to back for the first time. Yeah, I just pouring it up. And hey, for that last name, I'm keeping out of Lord's left now. I can't get this one right. Pigeons. Pigeons, see. Mm-hmm. Just pull it. It sure is. I don't know. So I just have your old presentation. Yes, I'm. All right. Okay, so Hello Council, I'm here and I'm planning to enter this is my second summer here at Stolleys and this is my last full week as an interview. So one of my final projects is to present a text element to y'all and look at how it started. So this is text element tx24.06.01 regarding off-street parking requirements in an article 12 of the ordinance. So with this text number, we have two requests. It's kind of two parts. The first part is a maintaining table 12.1 of the Austrian parking environments and table 12, or article 12, I'm sorry. And basically what we want to do is simplify the table. It's very confusing. I'll get into it later. But we just want to simplify it, condense it a little bit. And yeah, hopefully it'll just make it more easy to understand for everyone. And the second part in the section on it is to reserve sections 12.3 dash 4 and 12.3 dash 5 to the code of ordinances. And this is because they relate to the enforcement of the town's parking requirements rather than addressing their apartments for future developments, if that makes sense. Because the development ordinance, that apply, the purpose of that is for future developments. The purpose of the code ordinance is enforcing the requirements, if that makes sense. I'll get into it a little bit later. Okay so before I get into the table I'm just going to specify when we say off-street parking we're talking about what's on the left and that is parking lots designated parallel spots and housing guest parking so, designated parallel spots, and housing gas parking. So that's what the table is going to be applying to. And not what doesn't qualify as off-shoot parking is residential driveways and street parking without designated spaces. So, yes. I've got a question because you've got a picture there of something that seems to be a problem and I'm not sure where it's addressed. Right, most picture where the car is blocking our sidewalk. Yes. Where is that address? Did how do we codify maybe that that doesn't happen or that the design of the whole allow for that not to stick down over our side walls. So I'm not sure if that is addressed in Article 12 but it's definitely not addressed in the table. What I'm going to be presented about in the table doesn't have really anything to do with driveways. So nothing is going to be changing about driveways. Last night, you might be able to answer your question a little bit better. I don't know the exact specific sections that I've addressed that. I do think that the code of ordinance might address it but we probably need some time to research that and get back to it. So I'm not sure. But it's not relevant to tonight because everything on the right is not covered to the next stage. Yes, so yeah, so tonight I'm just talking about offshoot parking and that is on the left. And what I'm not talking about, what's not going to be covered in the table that I'm presenting about is all on the right. Hopefully that was it. Okay, so I just wanted to clarify about that, about the definition of offshore parking. Okay, so this is also important information to consider. So, especially regarding existing developments. So, the updating parking requirements only apply to new developments. Nothing is going to change about existing developments. So the existing developments and approved developments are going to be exempt from the new requirements that they do indicate approved. And to reiterate again, driveways and all street parking, or I'm sorry, this is a type of one. So let's say driveways and all street parking are not included in these requirements. So, the reason I put that is, planning board was very concerned about if driveways were going to be accepted and driveways are not included. And these objectives were also saved in the memo that was provided to you and they should also be included in our 2012. So we have three main changes to table 12.1 and I'll show you in a couple of slides. But the first objective is to take away the minimum space requirement in the table. And this is for a few reasons. One of the main reasons is that none of the surrounding municipalities have any minimum requirements in their wardenets for minimum parking spaces and one of the reasons is a minimum requirement can encourage unnecessary spaces to be created and that just causes unnecessary impervious surfaces and the second objective is just to pendence the land use categories in their requirements overall. So just really condense and simplify the table to make it more user friendly and easier to use when the staff is reviewing the ordinance and your developments. And then the third objective is to incorporate the minimum bicycle space requirement into table 12.1. And we are not making any changes to the bicycle requirements. They already exist in ordinance. We're just leaving them, adding them to the table so it's easier to see, easier to locate. So we're not creating any new requirements for this adding to a table. Where are they located now? What are those requirements? For bicycles. So I will show you pretty much all of the requirements are the same for each category. I'm not exactly sure what section is in article 12, but I'll show you the requirements that exist now in a couple slides. And you can ask some questions when I pull it up. So looking back to Article 12.3-4 and 3-5. So our main request, like I said before, is just to reserve this for the code of ordinances, just because that's really where it belongs and it already exists there, which is basically reserving it only for the code of ordinances and kind of taking it out of the ordinance, the development ordinance, just because it doesn't really apply. So it'll just be listed as a reserve section. So before I created the new table 12.1 I conducted some research for surrounding municipalities just to ensure that everything was consistent and I created these summary tables just for my own reference to make sure everything was consistent and I created these summary tables just for my own reference to make sure everything was consistent and here's an example this is one for Mint Hill just in research that I did before I revised our table and here's the table that exists now. Orons, I have copies. If anyone would like one, it's very lengthy. If anyone wants a physical copy, I have to. I'm making a move on. Sorry, this is exciting. People take this room. It's the one. The one I just gave you is the proposed table. Okay, so here's the one. This is the table that is in the orange right now. And here's the second half of it. And then this is the new proposed table after the vision. You can see it's a lot more simple, a lot more easier to stand. Yeah, so this is what we're hoping to put. And I just have a little comparison example. So you can probably see the before and after of what we're trying to do. It kind of really emphasizes how we're just trying to simplify the population. So if you were to look at the current table, let me have an audience right now. The maximum space requirement allowed is 1 per 0.33 operator stations plus 1 space per two employees on a shift of greatest employment. If you were to try to develop a new pair of small installments and that's a little difficult to calculate. So what we want to change that to is 5 per 1,000 square feet of the Grand Florian, which is just a lot more easy to check when we're doing plans. And it's a lot more easy to calculate. There's just less variables. So 24 did be on June 18th and they did approve this new text moment, but they had some reservations about the lack of minimum parking requirements, especially for residential areas. Hopefully I can date about the residential parking better this time. Hopefully it was marked here that it's really not affecting residential parking at all. Like it's really not affecting driveways. The only thing that it would affect in residential areas are if there's a parking lot but within these roads or within an apartment complex, like it has to be designated parking spaces and not triplets. So hopefully this won't be here. But tonight I presented a table that best aligns, we feel with the goals and the comprehensive land use plan to reduce parking minimums, but specifically stated in the comprehensive plan so we want to be consistent with that. And however, if Council does want to include minimums, if you have concerns about not having minimums, we have created an alternative version of the table that includes minimum parking spaces and have that as well. You want to look at that. So this is a commodity for the middle. So as far as staff's recommendation, staff has acknowledged the need to revise CO12.1 to make it clearer, more simple, a little less confusing, and more is interpreted by its users. Additionally, staff also recommends that sessions call point your dashboard and talk with your dashboard become reserved sessions in the ordinance. And finally, we have the vote in state-owned assistance and individual lives. So we do recommend the approval of this tax amendment on the basis that it's consistent with the goals and strategies in the comprehensive land use plan and consistent with surrounding municipalities. So with that, you can go ahead and ask questions. All right, well thank you, Mayor. Yeah, I'd have to say, for some planning board, I had to put concern the plan board. I'm going to just take the hospital and the school right now. I'm sure we did have minimum parking spaces. And parking lots, we never forced, except for school, and the second, the second. So the swimming parking spots. But what happens is somebody that has left a little apartment complex, and I don't think any more of it would be built. And we've got a spot that's, but that would be one that would think the need, a minimum amount of that key is the sparks of parts and cars, where they live, and I'm not just concerned about a reservation, maybe it's a single family, but the problems I would be concerned about. But that's my concern, but not having to not having a minimum, so I appreciate your help to the employees. I will say developers tend to err on the side of the maximum parking. They really want to maximize the amount of parking just because it really benefits their development to have enough parking for everyone. So usually parking spaces are on the side of the maximum requirement, not really the minimum requirement, if that makes sense. Like usually the minimum is exceeded in those cases. The Department, you know, probably one or two cars, not three, but it's pretty well defined. You know, our school and the hospital, it's up to you, you know, that the bear, but I just think for multi-fans, the key in its end, if we're getting the commercial development, its retail, some of our larger intersections, you know, we certainly want to have them. I mean, we want to have them in and out because they've been this then to put many making pieces of property on their property, they don't charge apartments. So, that's what I don't want to do. The chance won't be enough for them to rent. I don't want to be the chancellor, not being the part of the grant, but they want an apartment, so they bring in people who are spending money. So, but, I'll just try and line them up. You know, I'm confused on table 12, one after revision. Okay, did you come here to go back to the site? Yeah. Yeah, that one. All right, the upper left off street parking. Yeah, that one. All right, the upper left, off-screen parking. Maybe I don't understand what off-screen parking is in a residential area. Yeah, of course. So, off-screen parking would be like, if you had a clubhouse in your neighborhood, for example, it would be like that parking lot that attaches to the clubhouse. Does that make sense? Like if there's a... I think the Shannnamore. Seven or fifteen homes. We're talking about resident homes. Next to the pool. Yeah. Those are off-screen. Those are. And maximum is three per unit. There's no minimum. Currently after the revision. Yes, after the revision. in this three per unit. There's no minimum. Currently after the revision. Yes, after the revision of the minimum. And of all the places that could use the minimum bicycle spaces, that's probably the only one I could think of that would. Yes, so someone asked about the minimum bicycle cases, never asked them anything but these are the current bicycle spaces that already exist in the ordinance. So we just moved them to this part of the chart. It's generally 5% of... What does that... I'm sorry, great this one. It defines the base of the space, the rack width. Yes, last. Yes. And also to address your question about JMR. If you're driving about JMR specifically, the golf course, since that's already in development. Just an example. Even the golf course wasn't even the pool parking lot that H.O.A. was, but that's a maximum of three per unit W.A. Well, beyond. The golf course. See that's down there somewhere else. It's the bottom right. Bottom right. Which we have two golf courses in our town. But they're all art existing. We're going to get more. Yeah, those would be exempt from any things. Yes. So, one of the reasons why. Yeah, no, those would be exempt from any case. Yes. So, I'll put the, like I just said, you used the example of like a club house that would fall under which one of these categories. Um, that would fall under President Chaldeau. So for development we don't have a specific clubhouse parking for the residential. Yeah, they could exceed, if you have three pretty unit, let's say 100 homes, they'd have 300 parking spaces. That they probably do not want, I would say I've never had a presidential development want to build a large parking lot. They would go into the dope less. And this would already come this parallel parking, clubhouse parking, and any other other additional parking lots. Okay. So the mayor on the middle of parking, but at the same token, just when you said that, I mean, that would be like for Champara, the minimal parking, they would be 300 parking spots, where at times, their current ordinance has something like that. Okay. And I want to make it more clear with this revision. So, taking away the minimum, we're basically just trying to get right into excessive work and spots that it was going to use. Let me just... Let me do a nice aesthetic one here. What if the divide... Let's put in a brand new clubhouse, similar to what the emolicted group was. Because I count as a whole new development, they have to have five, well, they can't have more than five, four thousand square feet of field. Correct, they would have to come in and find some of the current organs like any new development. If they were to be developed, anything over a thousand square feet. So all of these developments, that just took off course without a gun coming to the clients. And they have to do that anyways in the current parking table. It's just the current parking tables really difficult to define parking. She used the Harris one as an example. Like, thanks to our, she did not have many operating stations using a half when she did the initial development. And almost every single one of our categories in the whole are current ordinance has some nuance. Like, 0.33 parking spaces per station or something like that. And it's increasingly difficult with all the redevelopment happening in town to create a consistent parking throughout town. So when you have the minimum and the maximum that chart, and you have 12 in residence, one per unit, and that would be in addition to the driveways, the minimum that would be, you can't just have one per unit, one per unit, one per unit space per unit. So you said that the dragways are not considered obfuscate parking. Correct. They're just their own thing. Yes, the dragways are separated. So the residential dwelling would minimum would be one for unit, like the night development of the bathroom. Yes, that would be in addition to the driver's, the additional parking spaces. Yeah. And that's similar to what we have now in order to. I don't know. And I disagree with the mayor about the school. I don't think that they have too many parking spaces. You go by their day with, you know, in school. There's not a lot of extra parking there. That we're talking about existing. I don't know. Um, we do know how to put those. I stand a lot of natural home wheel spaces. Five for a thousand. What's GM things in that for again? Green, for the Erosa. Gross. Gross, gross. Like, those four areas. So hotels, three, four, five, two numbers, 50 by 200. So, that'd be the, is it just, is it just footprint or not? You know, just they would ask the developer to submit the gross plenary area and we would do the calculation and they would be able to exceed. But if this was passed, that calculation I'm parking by for however many they plan on doing it. But they would say they had 200 spaces as the maximum they could build. You know, we would require that then submit a whole calculation of parking, read the parking maximum. So they could build 50 instead of 200. I'm just using a brand new one. Yeah, right. 200 sounds so awesome. I'm just using a brand new one. Yeah, right. Do you want to hear something about that? Well, no. If you get three stoke, four, twenty, or six, you're gonna need it. Yeah, it doesn't have the size of a lot, though. A lot of people. Now there's no mackeys out there, similar. And they go with the mackeys, maybe. Oh, yes. So the thing on the menu is, I don't know. I just don't know exactly what the parking table looks like. I mean, yeah. Oh, the research. I'm not sure exactly where I don't have it in this presentation. I will say the parking table that I came up with is a little bit of an average of our current one, Blackstone, Minhill, Matthew, St. Andrew. So it's kind of an average of all those since they have similar development patterns. You've all also been to the next month's town? Yes, ma'am. I don't know what the square footage is. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. like their max from there, I still want to build a land with a building. So it really allows the developer a lot more flexibility and knowledge of marketing than can and can't build. I would say, so for example, the buildings, I don't know how I'm going to read stories that are not nice for a building and they'll have to come up with their square foot, a gross poor area to's to me submitted, they'll have a calculation of a maximum. Well, they can do zero to the maximum amount of number. They're not going to want to do the maximum they want to build a building. So, and they have a, most properties are combined to help the footprint of the layout of the portion. So, it just gives developer a a long flexibility on these spaces they can So they could have zero spaces that wanted to But I don't think they're going to want to they just have a maximum Well, I appreciate you all making it simpler on one sheet here, but what's the downside for us having the minimum on real spaces? Yes, so you're talking about the existing table with the mirrors? No, using this sheet to all pass out the matchable and the minimum inside it, it spells it out in a brief plain way. But what's the downside of having a minimum requirement is it just kind of forces a certain amount of important business even if they're not necessary. So like even if a business doesn't need many breakfast spaces it's still a force in order to have a certain amount of money to get since. And it's just like extra and pervious services that are needed. Does that make sense? Yeah, I understand. But I see the gap between like an hospital is 2% because I see the gap that the developer keeps 3, 4, 5. And to the next, I would say I've never had a developer that the developer changed 3, 4, 5 and 2. I would say I've never had a developer who requests less than the maximum about parking. And this also meets the goals of the conference of lanes plan as well. The conference of lanes been up to the 2016 once. The minimum is permitted. Well, the companies that lay spend those adopts in 2016 once the minimums are limited. I just want to get boxed in where we'll call short and then people are complaining. They're not complaining know the problem here. But maybe she's talking about the answer for me. Next. What is your leverage? If we say maximum, you know, a hospital, a 6th-curve, 1000-square feet of the DIAV. And they want that, or you want less than they say they want more. I don't think that they would want more, but... Well, currently the use table is the only real... In the ordinance, like building lot patterns, like building placement, open space buffers, are so required to, all developments need to follow and then they'll have to fit parking on top of that. So the leverages, the ordinance itself with those buffer requirements, building placement. Additionally, certain uses like apartments require conditional zoning as well. So staff could recommend or not recommend or council could not approve or approve certain developments that didn't meet the desired amount of parking. So just thinking about, you know, a parcel being developed is still with the building, tree safe buffers, open space, and parking. This kind of gives that the developer and staff a lot of flexibility in the design because parking minimums are kind of sometimes remove certain parts being able to be developed because they can't fit all of this farm store. They can't develop it unless you have fewer spaces. Yeah. Then you may not have, you might have. You may not. And they have to apply for additional stuff. And we've had to happen for it. It's just, they've been residential products. But I would say all the developers that I've talked to over the last few years have wanted to master. Yeah. Yeah. That was a great question. I mean, we were doing comparisons to it to me that at any time during the June interviewing of those books to determine if they have seen any type of issues with normal requirements or not having any normal requirements. No, I just think that there are ordinance a problem, but I didn't speak that long specifically about that. You got it. And do you have any idea when that came, when it took that, just the maximum, like, middle? I don't have specific things. I have to check that. Because that would make a difference to me, to see if it just went in fact two years ago or six years ago, and then you'd say, okay, how does it work? You know, this, whatever they have, the whole child, they can tell us that. Or, rest your honor or something. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right. Any other questions? Are you all any more time? Is that just additional questions? Are you all ready to vote? I would like more time to digest them. I've been in parts of this, I like it parts of them. I'm totally confused and not able to make any solid decision. Right. Okay. I think we're going next to you. This man? I'm going to get it. Oh. Max. I'm just wondering if you could get that in the was just talking about how long we would sit down. So in the years of all those MSTIs about the ordinance? And how they're working, I mean, to me, I would think it's got to have been five or six years ago that they adopted it so that you know, you have a better picture of how it's working. I mean, somebody adopted it two or three years ago. It may not, you know, we've been in one project that, you know, there's small towns in the infields bigger than us. All righty, I'm closing the public hearing, and it sounded like what my table is to the next month. And I don't really have a thing to do yet, but, me and, thank you for all the information. I hope you had a great summer working here. Thank you. Remember where you at school? You're in the Charlotte? Charlotte, nothing. Yes. I am a master's student now. I was graduating this past summer. You're under grade, was you planning your job? Yeah, technically a job for me, but my concentration is really good. Yeah, that's what my work is. Yeah, and it's kind of the same as my masters. Yeah, but I'm a last year's week in the master's program. Yeah, I'm a master in the master's house. All right. Well, thank you for all your work. Thank you very much. Thank you for all your work. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right, Justin, you're courting on to Demolite's over vision, growing sense. How you doing tonight? I get our e-book today. I'm here to request to accept the .656 miles of the Amrelink subdivision right away. That includes the streets, the street lighting, sidewalks, and the roadways. Staff received a request from Epcon for the town to accept the right away, which that now knows in your packet. They have fulfilled all of our roadway acceptance application requirements. We also, as you know, we did a right away study on all the sidewalks in town and all the sidewalks in that subdivision are 88 compliant so we're good there. And this would add to our number for the powertown bill so we would also get extra funds for a aerial one. So we're talking about here. You guys have any questions? Yeah, where did they run the drink? They weren't part of the study last study because we had not. Yeah, just here asking, where would you put them? Or just, there are the eights. Eighties? Okay, that's good. So that would be part of our preventative maintenance. We would have to do any kind of, miller of over-life. Any questions suggested? What's the pleasure of casting? I don't know if that we don't interact with the engineering department to sign on and accept the programs. All right. Mr. Malauri, you have a second. I'll start with a second one, Mr. Harris, to accept the room in the annual funeral aid subdivision. Court yard to General Mark going to lay some vision. All bigger. All right. And then I have that. Thank you. Thank you, just for the moment. All right, Kevin, here. Tell Hall. HBAC, directly. How are you doing tonight? Doing all right. How are you all doing? Good. Appreciate your time to see me. Here at night to seek approval for, see Council's approval for the HVAC replacement and improvement project over there at Town Hall. There's a mystery behind this project I think the past few, fiscal year is there's been about $380,000 approved each fiscal year. The full and full of that project it, but ultimately last year, during the FY2024 fiscal year budget approval process. So in July of 2023, we realized that we needed to pursue engineering and design work in accordance with state statutes that big new mini Brooks Act. And so ultimately council approved a contract to pursue that engineering design work to really analyze the issues over there at Town Hall and the HVAC issues and come up with a solution. And so far kind of jumped into that, I kind of really want to stress the necessity of this project because since we started that design work, we've had pretty significant issues that kind of hindered operations over there in town halls. So for instance, I think the auditors were in about a month ago at this point, and we had to relocate them from the large conference room because it was too hot in there, the respected bear handling unit. It wasn't running all night. So it was a toasty 85 degrees when they got in the office there. We've also had a council, developer meetings and other meetings as well from occurring in that large conference room. Currently one of the air handling units are down and completely failed and that and Chief has been working with me and not being too upset with me that the back half of PD has been working with me and not being too upset with me. The back half of PD has been operating on portable AC units for about two months at this point. I was acting dancers going out, contactors going out, and air handling units up there. We've had leaks occur through the ceiling on the second floor, time all over there. All stemming from thising HVAC system. And so ultimately this design, we've been pursuing, looked at temperature control, how do we get consistent temperatures throughout the building, how do we resolve these free of herd maintenance issues that we're seeing, and then ultimately wasn't how we maximize the efficiency of the firm from benefit of energy bills and overall power consumption? So with those three goals in mind, we started the design process and to achieve those three goals on an ideal situation, it was pushing $1.8 million. Obviously, that cost benefit analysis was not there, so we decided to take that scale scope work back a little bit and look at another option to achieve these three goals as well. That option, that scale back scope was still over $1 million. And so with all that work in mind, we decided that the most financially feasible solution was really just a one-for-one replacement with alternative improvements as well. And those alternative improvements would be insulating the attic up there, installing air conditioning in that attic as well, because if it's 100 degrees outside, it's a hundred, twenty, 130 degrees in that attic. And that's really causing a lot of the main issues that we're seeing these injuries. You can see it's under the ground. But also we'd like to finish the window of tap hall to really keep the internal temperature of the building cooler when the sun's beating down on it, especially during the sun. So, again, I mentioned that these went through the list of issues that we're currently seeing. So, staff certainly believes that this project needs to happen sooner and later just to continue with operations as we would like. And I know we don't have another council meeting until September 9th. So that's really ultimately why I'm bringing this to you tonight to Get your approval for that 200 not for that budget of that project not big see 250,000 dollars So we can get all of them up on that project and so before I open it up for any any Discussion or questions. I want to reiterate that we did have an approved construction budget for this project and this fiscal year $330,000. We believe this holistic project from the replacement to the additional improvements will be well under the fact. And also, once I mentioned that we currently have two quotes received by HBC contractors, staff wool, re-appartise and recalicit for bids to see if we can get a third quote in the sure competitiveness, but ultimately if we can't get that third quote we would go with the lowest bidder of the two that have me have you take any questions? Thank you, Cam. Appreciate it. Mr. Craig, I'll let you know that we've had a shared discussion on this for many months. And I'm not going to explain. And so I'm sure any documents that you want, just to put some email that Mr. Parker there, he'll get into it. But it was thoroughly faded out by his counsel or he wouldn't have been in this decision run off the bat. So Mr. Parker did a good job of explaining to the council and so on. I want to reassure you that we take the serious one spending this time. So are any questions from Mr. Parker? I just had a question about the windows. How long did it take? The windows. Do you have a bigger original to the building now? So mid-2000s? Yeah. All right. We need to go. That's good options. Well, it's nice. I'm going to look at it too. Yeah, 10. Yeah, I think it's good. I will say we were impressed by how much the temperature degree job was just with Timmy. I think we were talking to Mayor Burton Show and he's actually measured that at his house. Timmy 15 degrees. Yeah and it feels it so we do think obviously not just doing it the same way we were doing it but also coming up with these creative solutions like addressing the issues in the attic, as well as in the window tinting. It won't be kind of a month to month, some big change, but I think what it'll be is it will really prolong the useful life of the machinery systems, right? Because they're not an extreme, extreme environment and help out a lot. So I want to try to, Mr Mr. Parker for working with everybody. And again, thank our entire staff for their cooperation and for your folks as well. Max, you and your team and everyone who's had to deal with some really tricky situations with the HVAC and hopefully we'll get this wrapped up quicker. So, you're asking for a given? I think again, I'll just, I'll just ask the one quick question, is that again, between the, it's the one, the one replacing, ask this of balance, that's going to at least outhate spend you know 250,000 if at the end of that 250,000 we still didn't have a system that was meeting goals of doing the work. You know what I heard is that the whole system was having some issues. So, do we feel like this one, there's one to one replacement, it sounds like we're still going to have some issues with what's over there. Can you tell us a little bit about any type of adjustments that are going to happen to kind to rectify some of the distribution of AC and are we replacing any heating over there just the AC? It's just the AC unit, yeah. And that's a good question. So right now our units over there are 15 to 20 years old. And they don't even make a free drink or any more to when those have issues. So we're more addressing by upgrading these machines as well. So we can do recurring maintenance all day without any issues. When it comes to the specific distribution throughout the building, that's not going to change. That's where a significant portion of that price increase was associated with when we were looking at other options was reworking the duck work, optimizing the duck work as well. So we're not having units draw all the way across to the furthest part of the building. But also we're dealing with size constraints up there in the attic, getting in and out of the attic, probably the size units in and out of the act. So again, it's not going to be a perfect replacement. But what it will provide is we do expect to get a full 15, 20 year life cycle out of these units, similar to what we have now, and mitigate future maintenance costs by. I truly believe that after all this work we've done looking into this, that cooling down the attic up there will significantly improve the operation and functionality of these units and prolong this prolong life. Mr. Parker, do you mind bringing up the memo and just going to the action on it? Thank you, sir. Just got started and we'll put it in your bag like that. I want it. Thank you. So, not that to rehash, but I guess I have. This was when the first game for us game process was a two-step project, we would fit out to a consultant for design company. And then though it was, you take that design and then go and bid that out. So we've done the design. And what they come back is that what they come back with all the things in that design that's got seen the 1.8 Yes, ultimately yes. And again to achieve those three goals with optimizing efficiency of the unit, correcting all the temperature control issues and reducing all the recurring maintenance we're seeing, It was a significant amount. They pretty much had to got the whole building and redo all the ductwork. I know that would have entailed upgrading the electrical panel to a 400-amp electrical panel because our generator was tied into it. So all of those things considered really, really for about the price. All right, and then the $1 million, so did we go back to that firm and say, oh, this is, we did it. We did it. We did it. We're going to produce a plan and still, when we did it out, it was a million. Yes. Yes. Yes. And again, just going back to, it was a different kind of operating system, but we would still have to get and re-wrap the existing network and do some electrical improvements in the days of that nature that we were starting to add up. All right. And then the last thing is some winded, they've become workers. We have 15, 20 year units in there. And when did this problem really start? It's kind of ahead. So I can only speak. So when I joined the town in 2018, that problem was there. When I was happening, we had balancing issues. It's been a long-term problem told by long-term staff as this has been an issue in some form or fashion from the outside of the building. I think what it was is just a poor design and unusual design. But I think it's been exacerbated recently by the fact that a lot of units are failing due to that point is on eye because of the as much as anything up there in the attic. Mr. Parker, please correct me. No, that's after it. It's the biggest issue is that it gets so hot and humid up there. Those things are running at full speed all the time the condensing lines they're freezing so the units are completely shut down and then by the time we get them unfrozened up and running it's 85 degrees and it's just occurring. If let's run these at a much more efficient I think it's R410 because we're using the most efficient. I think it's R410, yeah. It's one of the most efficient. Yeah. It is. So I have one of my units, it's new and young. It's amazing. It's cooler and quieter. Yeah. Council Member Harlock, I've been here since 2008 and it's been an issue. It's an issue. Yes, sir. I think Mayor Dunn could probably tell you there are some council meetings in that council room over there that got really really hot. And not just for the topic. Not just for the office. All right. I think I've heard enough. Can I guess you might make a motion to offer out a town manager to approve the HVAC for the replacement project of the budget metrics, the $200,000, the approval is strategic on staff, there's only additional customers to be insured, prepared to do this and compliance with state bidding statutes and found big policies of wireless security and approval from towns legal representative. So moved. Motion manager to show, check in on this drink on paper. I care, thank you for the work of this. I'm going to have to go to the is practically soliciting to include the quotes that we have. So I didn't want to leave those out. But it should be anything here. I mean, the one-to-one replacement is going to be done quickly. Yes, they said very conservatively. It would be a week and a half. But realistically, they said five of us this day. No, so I'm going to try to set up 10 real quick. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right, Alex. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll be brief here. As you all know, one of the council priorities is to focus on long range planning. As a part of that fiscal priority, we want to make sure that we're making thoughtful and strategic investments. The money that we do spend, we want to make good investments spend money where we have to, not spend the money to. And as part of that, we do a paying classification study for staff typically every three to five years to make sure that we stay competitive with the market. As you know, that's in the budget for this year. And there's one narrow issue I'd ask the board to weigh in on. And specifically, I've heard differing perspectives on whether paying classification studies should include the town council type of analysis and I'm seeking the council direction tonight and whether to include that for analysis. So that's the only action you need because we've already budgeted. Sorry, I'm sorry. So the difference in cost. No sir, we're not increase the cost of the analysis. You wouldn't be committing to making that change as far as the stipend change. You would simply be including in the analysis. We're studying. I'm afraid we're including it. Yeah. Well, we ahead now. Yeah. Well, we've done calls. Thank you. Yeah, we're doing good. But we're all going to, you know, and let's look at the California that we're making here at $100,000. That would be quite fast. Wait a minute. That's an option. Yeah. All right. Well, let's see. A little bit like a grand. Yeah, I'll pull it up and max ask you to help me with this where you can. I don't know what's that? I don't know, I don't have to have to pay the second hand off. Yeah, I'll put it on the drive, so we're good. Thank you. So, took it when you needed order, you want? Okay, thank you, sir. I'll start with this one. And just for everybody's understanding, I think this is somewhat confusing because it's a new process for all of us. But I do think it's a good process in that as our area grows, right? And we're kind of, it's not like we've got these super separated places, right? Everything's kind of growing together. And when you have that, you have these kind of territorial issues. And sometimes developers can try to take advantage of where they file strategically. And so the county they get certain development applications it sounds like are going to bring it and ask for our feedback and they do if it's close to stalling, it started to restate. So we're not going to have all the answers that you may have like to wood with a conditional letter. You know, we simply are seeing it at first, plus we ask the county that they'd be available to present this to you, perhaps brought a lot more information that you may see. They're not able to do that at this time. So right now, we're just going to present it first reaction. If you'd like to make a recommendation, we'd certainly send that to the county. And not anything else, sending a letter is effective. But I think the most effective thing is for you all to be able to do politics on the county board and really advocate for the townland. Okay, so that should be up. It's up in the event. Okay, so that should be up. So just something like that. So, you can see here, Rock Hill Church Reddit, and I believe Max is an entrance to MLLite. It's the back door. So I know we've heard a lot of concerns for those residents. Staff Act have concerns. Whether this is the highest and best use, and whether it fit with the character of the other one. Our understanding is kind of an RV stop of sorts, kind of a truck stop kind of place. And a truck stops envisioning maybe like a building, showers and stuff. I'm not sure if it's like that. It's more of a larger parking lot, if you will. So that's it, not shells, part. Well, it's also going to be down the street of the neighborhood that Kevin Bristley has messed the annex into the town with maybe $1 plus homes. So the pluslets and very nice homes are rocking their church over there. They're not installing them. Same side of the road. I mean, obviously, you's just like a 50 area. That many more trucks coming down. Marty's road, 218. To do whatever they do. They have the service gas, or whatever. It's going to see 50 residential. Five of that area. Concorde. So there's no zoning in this area. There is zoning. It's zone divided county. So Bay of Seminidad is development application to the county. It's a new new county. It's unincorporated, which means that the county has authority over the zone. But what's the zone? There are zones. All of these are conditional zones, and not sure they're underlying zones. And they have in the Met for community meetings or they're playing board over the commissioners, telling them if they know better yet. So, they're zoning or not? There is zoning, I don't know what it is. It's proposed to be additional zoning for this parking lot. Not again, it's our Ford. And so they are meeting next Tuesday, please 20. So I actually are a female union county to just as a person, as a resident. And of course my thoughts on this. I've heard people say, they're getting sick. I don't see the point, they being in high as some best use, but it's a private property on this decision. I think it just presents a lot of concerns. Rockville, Georgia, it isn't the greatest road to drive down. There's not a lot of space. So right away, like, you put our knees on that. We're going to have to get the essence. And yeah, I think it's gonna be niche property guns and doesn't fit on people we're going for this special barbell. I can't remember the tool that you use where it shows, where this is located, which is part of this map. I guess I'm just not that familiar. I'm just not that familiar. You know, back in, that is the back entrance of the mobile. Which is too close. I think you bring up the Google. It's our main interest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, look at all of them. Yeah, look at all of them. That's a good one. Next, help me out here. Do you want me to come up? Right there, where your cursor is? Please. Right, where you just... I was just gonna say, I was nervous to do this. I don't know if anything about these developments. I'm just to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. I'm going to give you a couple of comments. the box. I think this might be even better for you. Translates look at the parcel. So I want to show the satellite. Let's see if I can see it. That's a good stuff like you right there. Look at all the cars parked in that repair shop. Where's the repair shop? That's a... Something's called Whistle Stop and Pair or Palm of the Sun. And a... And over at E-Mill the county saying that planning staff was against this use. He's in the repair character or a different area. And I also did it for the one or the other ones. For the third one, I didn't give them an answer for you. Okay, and what about, what did you say about a meeting of the March 20th? I think the, either it's like planning board or the county commissioners are reading or the county commissioners are meeting or the county itself is meeting. There's a clear community member. The plan used to board will meet on August 20. So that's not the plan for it. Yeah, I love the dates for the meetings. I asked the meeting council member, they said some of them were too early to tell them they didn't get any of the other meeting dates. Council member Hawley, I've got to ask you a discussion with Andrew neighborhood about this. Yeah, I've been receiving phone calls about it. And apparently, notice is only one to 20 people. The surround rate, yeah, close to 10. All right, well, do you say a letter to the planning director of your This one that the council ran for the limited reasons for the people to come. They just went through the care plan and obviously, no, they know that the account commissioners need to vote, so they may do a list of reasons, have a way. So we let them handle how we feel. And nobody knows what the other way, if you don't know, I'm not out of here. We should let them move on to the end of it. Okay, so I did the same as I think to go. The ladies board is their planning board. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I just pulled it up and the ladies board is their planning board. Oh, yeah. So that is their planning board maybe. So are you going to try to get a greener feet with the yellow there? I'm not a leader. I'm not a leader. I mean I think I think I think I need to give him the car again Alex. But as Max said they haven't had their community meeting or they've not required to do the meeting that we are. Yes. They're a member of the community. Well my understanding is they have already met with people in Emerald Place. Yes. We're in a meeting at our clubhouse. Yeah. Or the process. So they're planning board to adhere to the plan. But similar now, this one is a commission was owning as well as right next, courtyard on lawyers' road. This is an accounting, so I'll show you in the go maps. As you can see, it's the entrance to courtyard on lawyers. This is lawyers wrote exit on 45. They want to build a storage facility that encompasses the entire property. And I've already told them that it doesn't fit the character. I can't believe we never had an anecdote. I thought we were up against the counterline, but I was going to have to. The turnover came to me multiple times. And we don't have a future language for this property and I was thinking it might possibly be difficult to get a storage facility to you know locate there and that if you've been looked at the county instead. Well, same time I can tell, again, I'm going to get the character out there and I'm going to put it. Because the thing is, that thing is so vague, why would you put it in storage? You know, if you guys read, and you want to just mind how rather than waiting on a sewer or a water refue, and you can develop that. It's a property in the United States and property that is in the corner of Fort County of Orange River. We know the babies have already heard of how far along the process this one is. No, I was I'm not well then prepared to mention all that. Yeah, but you have their agenda, they're planning board agenda. It's not posted do that I can find. Well, it must not be on the 20th meeting for the two weeks. Probably. Probably. Probably one week. That's why. I just want to... It's my... You know that? Well, who knows? The picture. Right. Time and the critical of the answering time. I don't think anybody that supports storage energy. It's like, talking. Where is that again? I use it out to store it. Yep. Right up 45 on orders. Okay. So, where are some orders right here? This is, um, Seagun's where I was wondering those words. That one, because that one's like, this one was a burden between D2 and D2. And the black word, you can make it. Okay. The color is green. And the best kind of one is what it is where it is. And the black word is green. And the black word is green. And the black word is green. And the black to the back. And that's kind of why I was looking at it. It's where it is. That's what it's called. It's out of town. It's a very else, where it's north of the town. Wow, yeah. Let's see. So, somewhere else? I mean, I'll ask you, you know, actually counting it. What does that actually, I'm doing it. Yeah, we can request. They've already, they already forward these developers to us that are adjacent to our land to annex. I think the answer I gave them about the storage facility probably wasn't favorable. So that's why they just got went ahead and submitted it to the county. Mayor, what I would suggest in that line of thought is they sent me a couple letters to the county manager for both of these properties and also as well with the board's permission and guidance. The last thing that they point is the developers of us for our rain uses and different annexation in their panel. Everybody, everybody be rid of us. Never come to the moon. I'm just going to ask you guys to get the figure in the past. Okay, so this one, I don't know anything about it, so we're stupid. I don't know. This is a big development. It's a third 737 55 an up single family lots of the vision kind of similar to quarter arts. I went 737 I think 55 now. Yeah, Gated community, it's going to be totally gold range. 737, yes. And this is off of this sphere. I didn't know in my culture. Yeah, I did not continue the answer about this one. Yes, because this one is a, this one was originally, they actually were about to send an excitation for stall stallings that they were unable to connect. And where are yet 30 percent? I can't remember the terminology of satellite annexation. We can annex them without them being touching stallings. Okay, perfect. And then we, I guess we talked to Fairview and Eric Genseth, the property is well, very against it. And I'll show you this. It was very good. Yeah, town of Fairview. Yeah, if you ever owned, well, no why, these homes were pretty nice. The upper end of Rock Hill Church, toward, toward the upper end of Rock Hill Church told her about 218 and really I think I've been able to spend my time up the other day and I kind of went off the beaten path. My beaten path, I thought some of the muscle road for example, is amazing. I have no idea what's nice of homes for riding there. I'm sure where all the roads are named up here as well. I don't actually get the bridge over to this park more in the county. Sorry. Yeah, it's on the cook. But it's a city that I've not single family lots of division. Seven hundred percent. I only concern and I don't know enough about this. I'm unsure they will figure it out themselves. The sewer package point that they are talking about, I don't know enough about it, but a good or bad feeling. They're thinking to do in their own clinic there. Yeah. And this is not going to the commissioners until January according to the county. That's commissioners in January. You go to the county board. Well, I'm a surprise because I just saw Kevin a couple days ago. I'm asked if I wanted to go. You know, he never even believe that you've made it to the dollar for us to act for those of the first choice. So I'll change the line, so I'll cut that. So it changes anything else. I think it's just not allowed for state statutes to exceed the satellite annexations. We are able to see 30% of everything. Or with this, it would exceed that. They're not allowed to annex it or stay statute. Once they're touching or municipality. And that's all I know. I'll get them this phone. So, do we know about the play or the play? Or the play and the fees? About the play and the fees. I'm waiting for the keys. About the key, don't you? I mean, like did they bet things the way you would do? I would assume it's similar, but I've never attended one of their meetings. And I don't want to tell it. All right. Well, I appreciate you. The day that you saw me agenda, you know, you just called me for a call for a real. Back in my office, thank you. It doesn't matter if you're in or see what happens. All right. We'll go to the next step. Close. Sorry, Mary. I think next where you're looking for. All right, long for this. We'll wait till we get somewhere else at the next one. This one's got a little more long term than the other two. Why in the problem? Do you want to do a count on you? They're maybe about a plus home, scored it together. Yeah, D- you want, do you want to get that in the answer on that? Tonight can, or do you want to wait on giving county recommendations for this one? Okay. I'd like to talk to Kevin first, but I think just figure out what you're talking about, that contingency, that contingency, maximum. Okay. next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session next up close session We do need to invite town engineer Kevin Parker and the chief of one part. I think that we go into both session and invite Mr. Carcair and Chief Lee Frank. That was my line. Second. Second. All clear. 9-9-10. I'm really looking for you.