Good evening. It's seven o'clock this Monday, May 5th, 2025 and welcome to this evening City Commission meeting. We'll call for order and ask Reverend Dorian Harris of the St. Paula Amie Church of Lake Alfred to leave this in the invocation. You want to pull this in? What a joy to die. We need only ever actually not safe and secure from all the law. So come tonight where we say thank you for another day. And the opportunity to be able to open our eyes this morning and be able to see the goodness of the Lord and the Lamb of the Living. As I look at the agenda tonight, it's packed with so many wonderful moments that I've already had to come. Just wanna thank you, Lord, for this group, for this leadership team. As a teacher myself, I thank you for your faithfulness each and every day. And I pray that the teachers this week will fill your love. The students bring it every day. We do our best to bring it every day, so we thank you for the privilege of being teachers. Thank you for our police, that we also... teachers as we fulfill your love. The students bring it every day. We do our best to bring it every day, so we thank you for the privilege of being teachers. Thank you for our police. That we also gonna go on and on tonight, thank for all those who protect and serve us each and every day. We do not take them for granted. A lot of them are sentiential grace in your love today. For our servant, our friend, our brother, our little legend, to this city Lord, and thank it that he's still rolling along doing his thing. And I pray that tonight he'll send your love that you have kept him, allow him to serve the people for so long. And for that, we say thank you. For all the other agenda items, as we look back and we look forward, as we look at the new team that you have put together tonight, I just want to say thank you once again. Thank you for each person that's in the room tonight that you made them in your image. That they have intrinsic worth and value to create, communicate, collaborate, and think together for the good of this city. Bless my brother, Brother Robinson, as he starts his journey tonight, officially. Thank you for our team that you put together once again. Thank you for everything that's going to happen tonight. Let it all align underneath your word that everyone come together for one purpose. That is to do what's best for the city. You bless us to be a part of. Thank you once again for all your wonderful blessings. This we ask in your son's name. Amen. Amen. What do we just do to flag the roll, please. Okay, I about to ask City Court Glendenda Bojoua to call the roll, please. Mayor Fuller. Vice Mayor Dei Lee. Mayor Commissioner Eden. Mayor Commissioner Deerman. Mayor Commissioner Malzby. Mayor. Thank you. And this time I'd like to ask City Manager and City Attorney for their announcements. First of all, we'll start with City Manager Ryan Levin Good and Ryan. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On Friday, May 16th from 6 to 7 30 PM, the Life Skills Academy will host a high school graduation ceremony. At the first United, United Methodist Church at 130 South Pennsylvania Avenue, the commission is invited to attend. Our next city commission will be held on Monday, May 19th at 7 p.m. And then also to one of our local restaurants in town, Las Camadres, they now have their very own lake out for t-shirts. And so they are selling those and they're actually donating $5 for each t-shirt proceeds. They're going to go to the park system. And so just something that local businesses are doing in town to support the city. And most certainly we support them back. So need opportunity there. If you haven't been, go. Although I warn you once you start, you can never stop. So that's the one caveat there on that restaurant. Very addictive. Let's see here we've got a request. We received a request from the applicant on the the Springs Development Agreement to request removal for consideration tonight. So if the commission would got to entertain a men named the agenda on that. not sure if that we remove that from the agenda. After we read the 500 pages. You're warmed up, honor. It's not going away forever, neither. Second. OK, we have a person in a second. Any of you again? Motion has carried out. Thank you. That was for the springs at Lake Alfred. Mr. Mayor, let's call for a vote on that one just to be clear on that. Yes sir. Okay. Just stay on the table. All in favor say hi. Hi. Any opposed? No. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'd like to take a few minutes and I know everyone's got an anxiously awaiting the swearing in ceremony, but I did want to bring this to the commission, as well as the community's attention. It'd pick probably about five or ten minutes, but I think it'll be worth it just in terms of the update. We've received quite a few emails and citizen interactions just regarding low-pressure issues, water pressure, and the eat specifically in the Eden Hill subdivision. Of course this past Sunday we have the massive power outage that then resulted in loss of pressure at the plant and we had to put forth the boil water notice. We should be receiving the bacterial logical test on that back tomorrow morning and if all clear we can rescind that notice and again that is is just precautionary in nature very unlikely that we had any issues. The pressure wasn't down for that long but just enough to where we needed to put that out there as a precaution. But just to kind of walk everyone through and I've got my utility director in the back. So in case I've stumbled if I get anything wrong, Clifton you got to wave your hands and come up to the podium and correct me here on the back end. But this is the one picture from the water tower, or the other ones are just kind of stock photos. But the way that the water system works in the city is we have a single water plant. We're in the process of building another one, but for right now, what we've got out here is the system. And so, historically, the water comes up from the ground. We've got wells that pull up the water from the ground. It goes through basic treatment, and then it kind of goes right here into the ground storage tank. Traditionally, then, that would go the high service pumps would take it from the ground storage tank and put it into the tower and then the tower then would create a gravity that would then pressurize the entire system. Historically, that's how all water systems operated. Nowadays, these pumps would go on or off. It would basically be if you were driving your car, they would either go 100 miles an hour on or off. And what would happen is they would fill the tank, the water then would drain, and then those pumps would kick back on and lift it up, and that was basically the yo-yo effect of what would happen. But what that meant was the tower was the limiting factor in the water system, because it could only hold hold so much and it could only drain so quickly. So we were bound to the pressure. Now all new water plants for probably 20 years or so, they'll never build another tower again because they have this same called variable frequency drives which now operate these pumps and these motors. And basically what that means is instead of going on or off 100 miles an hour or zero, it's almost like the gas pedal in your car. You can accelerate and rev up and then you can kind of back off of it and slow down. So that now as you open up a faucet or turn on the shower or your irrigation goes on, these pumps then kind of kick on to maintain pressure in the system. pressure in the system. So now basically the tower is out of it. We've cut off the tower, the tower is really more of the the Stigial element and we do this so that we can run at a higher pressure. We took the tower off last year. We were able to run about 40 to 50 psi. We were noticing during peak demand the tower what couldn't keep up and the pressure was dropping to 40. When we went to just the three high service pumps we were able to ramp it up to 60 psi. So we were getting more out of the pumps than we ever got out of the tower and these can maintain it. Now unfortunately unfortunately, as we were doing repair is because this water is always on, you can never shut it off. There's a valve here which kind of cuts off the pump that allows you to repair the pump without interrupting the system. Unfortunately, that valve broke and it broke in the closed system. So there's water continuously running and we can't now access one of the pumps. So we're down to two out of three high service pumps and unfortunately it was the big one. It had it has an eight-inch pipe. The other two have six-inch pipes. So that's been down the only way to affect that repair is to do an insert valve. It's basically like doing an open heart surgery while everything's still running. And so we've got an insert valve while the entire system is under pressure. That is not a typical pipe size. That plant was built in 1946 and it got 1946 pipes. So you don't go down to Home Depot and get that stock off the shelf and say, you know, throw the insert of valve in. So they did a custom order on that. They tried to insert it. When was that clifton a month ago? About a month ago. They did all the measurements that they got it right. Put the valve on. Couldn't get it to clamp down. Couldn't fit. And that's not something that you can risk because if it doesn't fit perfectly and you cut into that pipe There is no solution you just have basically a water main break at your water plant and there is no recovery So they were not going to risk that they went back to the drawing board they took updated measurements This is supposed to be installed at the end of May in order to you that pump back online. That should resolve a lot of the immediate pressure issues that we're experiencing at Eden Hills. We didn't have so much of it in January, February, because I think that irrigation wasn't running as hard. We've been in a drought situation now for a couple of months. And so I think in combination with that pump being down and just peak demand, we're experiencing all the issues that were experiencing. And so again, why eat and hills? Why did eat and hills win the proverbial lottery with the low pressure issue? Why is it citywide? And not to say that we don't experience some time, but the vast majority of the complaints and the concerns that we're receiving are from the Eden Hills subdivision. And so the thesis on this is that most of our growth is going to, and again, the plants here at the center of town. And so water goes out in all directions but all of our growth really is in the northern section. And so we've got water mains that kind of run up 557 and they go all the way up to the antique barn but then why is it that Eden Hills gets the majority of the pressure issues and it's not so much from silver lake, which is even farther to the north? So the explanation is that eaten hills, per the name, hills, they're actually on the high ground. So they're actually up on a hill relative to everywhere else. So our water main is actually lower than the subdivision. So no different than the circle oratory system of your own body. If you hold your arm up above your head, it's harder because it's higher elevation. And so that's kind of what's happening. That's the thesis anyways as to why they're having it and not so much further down, further to the north. So that's one of the reasons reasons they're kind of like the Canary and the coal mine for the overall system. Now the project that the City Commission's already approved is the Loupe project. So this water main over here is in the water ridge area. All of that water comes from basically the west side of the city. So the north side and the west side even though they're connected the same plant, it's almost like comparing your left arm to your right arm. It's totally different parts of the circulatory system. And so what we're going to do is the loop project that you've approved is going to extend the pipe and then connect to the back side of eating hills. It says basically that we're taking our left hand and our right hand and we're coming together and we're connecting it to try to relieve it a little bit. It doesn't, it's not a silver bullet solution, it doesn't create more pressure, but what it does is it allows for the system to operate more efficiently and to serve us it from multiple. They call it looping and they try to do it everywhere because it just allows the water to flow more efficiently and not have these kind of these breakdowns. Now, what we've done this past week, we borrowed a water s-logger or sensor from the Royal Water Association. We're actually gonna buy about three or four of these if we can, I'm gonna flip the order in today, but I want real-time data. I don't wanna just, well, my water was low, my pressure was a little low. Well, what was it? So we're going to put the, with this pressure sensor is already in the Eden Hill subdivision. It was put in there last week and it's going to run a seven-day pressure test. So we're going to know exactly when the pressure is low, what time of day, when is it not, and then we're going to that data. We're gonna buy three or four more of these, and I'm gonna put it throughout the city, and I just want data logs at different parts of the city so we can track what's going on, because we've gotta verify what's gonna work. So summary, and I'm working on a letter that I'm gonna send out to the residents, we've got a number of citizen concerns and I'm going to respond to those as well. But I wanted the commission to kind of be aware of what kind of the game plan is. So we've been planning on this as the commission is aware. We've been doing master plans for well over five or six years. We've known this growth is coming. We've prepared for it. As we've suggested, we've gotten about 20 years worth of in about a four-year period. So you can plan for that all day long, but there's going to be some gaps in service delivery. And when you're building a $16 million water plan, that's not something where you say, well, we'll build it and I hope they come. No, you can't have got to be here or on your way before we can commit to that. Unfortunately, it takes about two years to build a water plant, two, three years. So you can't, the growth can come quicker, but our ability to implement infrastructure projects unfortunately doesn't necessarily accelerate. So just to kind of recap, short-term solutions, the third pump repair, that'll be finished by the end of this month and we'll hopefully increase pressure the system. The Loot project is the next short term solution that we're working on. And then the third option, and I've just talked this through with the engineer and the utility director today, is to basically add the equivalent of a fourth pump. So we've got three pumps. Can we add a fourth pump as a booster, whether it's right here at the plant or further down the line? Can we use that to kind of give us the oomph to get us over the finish line until the long-term solution comes into effect? And that's the new water plant. When that's built on the north side of Lake Camp, which is actually north of Eaton Hills, we're not going to have any more water flow, pressure issues, and that plant is over designed. It's designed to run the entire city just from it, and then we'll have an additional plant, and then the receiving station as well. So we'll be in good hands once we can get there, but that the City Commission just awarded the construction bid for that in February. We're getting ready to schedule the pre-construction meeting, but that's an 18-month project. So that's not going to be that's not a silver bullet. That's going to be at probably the end of 2006 when that comes online. So we really need to focus on these short-term solutions to kind of patch our way through. Most certainly understand the frustration with the citizens as I've kind of preached to my department heads all the time. We're in the business of providing this core services and they're most appreciated when people don't even know that they're there. When water comes out of the faucet, when the toilets flush, when the 911 calls are answered, that's the expectation and that's kind of what we're in the business of. And so most certainly we need to do everything that we can to get back to that. The last thing that I'll cover in just in regards to the the Boyle Water Notice, I put that out on social media personally just with the information that I had. We've since put information on the website and the like. Some criticism or feedback there on how to get the word out. I think social media is probably the best option for us, but it doesn't need to be the only option. Staff for the past several months has been evaluating kind of an update to the fix 311 system. This is called GOGOV and Bren and HR and the City Clerk's Office have all been working on it collectively. You can actually download the app now if you type in my lake offer.com. It's not live yet though, but this is kind of a screenshot of what that looks like. This is going to be an integrated approach to outreach. So with this system, we can put out social media, emails, text. We can do everything from a one-stop shop rather than trying to manage all of these individual systems. So that'll be online. If not the end of this month going into June, we'll put out a public outreach campaign and let people know that this is online. And this will be kind of the one-stop shop for public engagement and getting information out rather than like I said, trying to let me put a post on Facebook, let me do an email, let's do the phone call, let's send out the group checks, we'll be able to kind of use it as a hub system for future outreach. So with that, I appreciate the commissions and the public's indulgence on that. I did want to kind of give an update just because we've gotten so much feedback on it. I'll be drafting this into a letter and sending it out to everyone that we've received an email from that had concerns and we can circulate that this and other media as well. But this is kind of the long and the short of it. We've just we've got a hundred plus percent growth rate, we've got a lot going on and this is kind of the game plan to get us over the you know get us over the finish line in the short term while we work towards that long term solution with the construction of the new water plant and with that I'll stand for any questions. You have any questions comments? Please feel free to come forward. You'd state your name and your address please into the record and feel free to ask your question. Good evening. My name is Roseanne Fritt. I'm a resident of Eden Hills. The question is around what you say about getting the word out. Social media is great, but as an example, we have a page for Eden Hills for our residents. And we're probably around over 700 homes now. We only have about 443 numbers of our page. And a lot of that is dual people. It has been wiped from the same home. So that kind of gives you an idea of how many people may be on social media. Maybe they're just not part of our page. But is there any kind of automated text or phone call system to get these alerts out for oil, water, any kind of emergency? Yeah, so that's kind of what that integrated system is going to go back to. I'd like to find a way to get it integrated with the HOA presidents and things like that because you guys are going to have a better finger on the pulse on your individual community. But well, that's what we want to do. We want to have an integrated approach to that. Whatever your method of consumption is for information, whether it's an email, social media, or we can even send out texts or kind of have people that we register for that, then it would go out directly to you. You may get it. Other people may not be registered, but then you could put it out through your next door or whatever your HOA communication is, and then that way we can get it out much faster. So that will be coming online here very shortly, but my assistant can kind of get your contact information and we can kind of plug you into that and keep you updated on our progress. Well, there will be a mailing about the new app. I found out about it from another resident, but even outside of my community, I'm thinking of the elderly and people who are just or not. We'll do everything. So we do mailers now on utility bill and in so again, it's kind of like I make the joke you know some people like them with the checkbook at the grocery store some people like on a tap and go and so we really just kind of need to meet people where they are. So I would imagine it would be a combination of inserts into utility billing the website social media and then hopefully word amount then from there if the HOAs pick it up and put it into the next door communities and things like that We can get maximum participation and gonna get a tight cohesive web to kind of get information out when we need to Thank you Anybody else at it as a question or comment I just had one comment if I understood right so you're still waiting for tomorrow to see if it's safe for the water. Because I've had some of the residents are reaching out now in the face but whether it's okay to drink the water or wash or you know, go to the place maybe. I can just tell you personally I didn't change my behavior at all. It's really, you know, it's a low percentage type of thing. It's truly precautionary. We will get the, we should get the bacterial, we plus 72 hours out in the initial, notice this is going to give maximal time, but it's about a 24 hour turnaround from the health department. They weren't open on the Sunday, so we delivered it first thing in the morning, and then it's about a 24 hour turnaround. So as long as that comes back clear, which again, no guarantees, but it should be high percentage, we should get that tomorrow morning. And as soon as we get that clear, we will put out a precision notice through social media, the website, and then that way kind of folks will know, and I don't even, we can call even some, I know some of the restaurants are the most impacted with ice and water and stuff like that we'll personally call the restaurants in town just to kind of let them know you know when it's lifted thank you and the schools absolutely thank you for us my dear what else okay thank you sir thank you now for our attorney. I would like to introduce John Murphy Jr. our city. We're not used to seeing John in here, but easier and very special. Okay, you did tonight, but John, if you'd like, please give us your announcements. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Commission, I appreciate being here. It has been a little while. And while I have been around, I am engaged to generally speaking on the first and third Monday and each month but I appreciate being here and I'm looking forward to see these proceedings. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Okay now we have an opportunity at the beginning of our meeting each each time we meet for the recognition of citizens. These are four items that are not on the agenda tonight so if there's anybody that has an identical excuse me and item that they would like to come up and make a comment or a question about please feel free at this point to come up to the podium and again state your name here we have Good evening Mike Summerfield 725 West Pierce Street Lake Alpha Sorry for my tire bus working on my yard I've got a lot of problems here. And before I start mentioning my problem with the city, I want to thank the city manager for his professionalism, his kindness, his courtesy, brand, and Lita is assistant. They paid a lot of money to have a survey done on my property. It's a very complicated property. Boundaries meet there. I believe the survey team was out there for five days. I've got a problem with the neighbor and the police chief. 2013 I wake up. I have two homes on my east side and there's three property markers. The middle property marker splits three properties. I wake up to pounding, banging, sledgehammer on concrete. They thought I was out of town in the old fields, but I took a night flight in. And that's what I woke up to at about 10 o'clock in the morning. The neighbor named Jim Bulger hired two labors, and he used with the other neighbor on my side, Josh, an eight-dugger, if your Nate Pid, meet the Pope County monument up with a sledgehammer and had a completely dug out, but it was still laying on its side. This pit was eight feet across. I called the police, the chief showed up. Nothing was done. No arrest was made for criminal misdemeanor. And the marker disappeared. Two months later I got a two feet piece of it thrown in my backyard. I go to North Dakota for three years. I do not come back to my home. My girlfriend's mother got cancer and she was battling cancer. They took care of her in my room. So I get back home. Around 2018 I asked the new neighbor that moved in toward the guy at Bate for the grenade being to get done. If he would like to get a fence up between us, he says no construction prices are too high. Two Christmas's ago, I went into the hospital with diabetic shock, blood sugar over 700, A1C over 14, eight days of intensive care, two strokes in my brain, half my vision gone, blood pressure, 280, you know, 220. I'm not going to make it, is what they said, but I made it. So I approached this neighbor, told him I had a bad medical problem, I need to get a fence up for my dog. So my girlfriend or my friends could come over and let my dog out walk my dog. I love my dog. He says, yeah, we'll look into it. So anyway, he agrees to do it with me. And on a Tuesday afternoon in April, I see he's got string line up, got a bunch of fence material, got the string line up, rebars with plastic caps, looked like survey team was out there. I had four property markers that I put in the ground in 213 after the incident. And one marker between me and any other neighbor. I'm one inch inside my property line. I ran 300 pounds string line. I split the rebar into middle of both markers that were still intact. On each end, the middle one was gone. I was one inch inside my property on my post that faces both those homes. And I told that man that. I said, you can use my post and take one inch of my property if you want to use them and go that way because there's nothing but tree root here. I said it took me one day to dig each hole. Fence contractor, I built fences for fence outlet, I had my own cruise, I've done fences since 1992. Just did a fence over the weekend. Now, told him that, he says, I said, when are we going to do this? So I tied the string on Tuesday because he took my post, he's on my property. When's that meetup with him? There's no issue. I said, you know, and he put a new string line up and it was all going like this. I said, you're going to put your fence up. It's going to be crooked. So right then in there, I don't think this guy is too friendly because he's not giving me a price of what I own for after material. So I said, when are we going to put this fence in? He says, we'll do it this weekend. So on Sunday I approach him because I don't see him Friday or Saturday. Sunday I approach him. We're going to put the fence in. Supposedly, that's what I'm thinking. I call out to him. He's like 120 yards away up by a lackey road. I'm not screaming. You know, my voice is still kind of weak from the issue. And I walk back to my house and I see them in between Reyes and my home and his home. But there's nothing but weeds and tall growth and mess. So I walk around the front of Reyes' property and they're out playing with their children. I still if I could cut through. I'll walk up to this man I'm about from here to you. I'm on the front of Ray's property. They're out playing with their children. I asked him if I could cut through. I'll walk up to this man I'm about from here to you. I'm on Ray's property. He's like 10 feet in his property. About to say something, like, are we gonna do this fence today? People, don't you see my backs turn to you? I want nothing to do with you. I'm here to go. I like fine. I told him, you got a damage marker over there. You can't put a straight fence up. I don't even know if it's there. I go back home. And we talked about the markers too. I didn't ever acknowledge that the marker was there. My, my, my, I'm almost there. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. I'm almost done. is very important. So I go back home and then about 10 minutes later I said I can expose that marker down by railroad property. So I dig on my side and railroad side. He comes running out because he's got security cameras when they alert him whenever I'm in my backyard. He comes running out calls the police Officer in the end gets there. He tells me I could arrest you for this. For exposing four inches of the marker on my side and railroad side. He takes my license, runs me through. And, can Kade tell me he had a permit when Monday he doesn't have one? So, I know he's on my property. And I showed you his feet on my property, his bootmarks. You told me to get with the police. I went to the police the very next day. And they told me there's nothing we can do. We're not doing anything for you. You don't have another witness. This bid is on my property. So now we have the survey done. All the markers are damaged. The one on the road is the second neighbor, the Josh guy with Balcher, they both got the same survey. And that marker, they moved that marker three feet. Three feet is what the survey team, that marker is three feet on the marker. Taking three feet on the marker, one foot of the property is where the damage marker that's reinstalled. Now the main reason why I'm here is I've got a problem because from the road to that marker was 10 feet and the big pole, the big cement pole, the anchor to those high energy lines is three fours on my property and I got $15,000 from Tico because it was on my property. When you go straight across, the survey team has that marker 20 feet from the road. Even though it shows three feet of my property was stolen, there's something wrong here and what I'm concerned about is this guy is going to pull up that marker. He's going to pull up that marker next to Pierce Street after you guys spent probably five grand to get him in. I'm very concerned about that. And there's the summaries coming into tomorrow or something important to brand. So we need to look at that summary. Here's my second problem. I need you to wrap it up. I am. Who is going to replace the Pope County Monuments? Is the city going to do that too? We need accurate legal, like every other neighbor has We need those monuments because their damage and broken busted up and that man freshly cut this guy can Freshly cut a piece off the top put a plastic cap on reinstalled that marker and That's why he's moving his lines every day and build this fence which took nine months. So when is the fence intended? Once the next time you're going to see them as hard, when they're going to build the fence. And that's when we'll know. The fence is already passed. It gets up. Okay, so right. Right. So if I may Mr. Mayor and Mr. Summerfield, your concerns are well stated. Yes sir. We've talked about it and that's kind of why the city has taken the extent that we've had to try to resolve a neighborhood dispute. There are issues in that entire block, that entire region as articulated to the surveyor. So there I think there are some confusing elements regarding surveys, especially in that stretch of land, but we should have the final survey report this week, including the markers. I want video evidence. I want to know where the markers are relative to everything else so that we can kind of see it ones in parole, have video evidence of it. And then the garbage markers, right? That too. But even the the ones that were installing the goal is to try to figure out where the property line is and then to try to to bring down the tension and try to resolve the dispute as best we can and Mr. Summerfield I've told you this privately I've told it to you publicly law enforcement and code enforcement are not the best arbiters of solving neighborhood disputes. I agree. So we're trying to conserve the peace here, and that's really kind of why the city even got involved. And so once that surveys in, we will take video evidence of the line. And in addition, we can geotag probably the markers, get GPS coordinates as well. and the goal being that once we know where the line and in addition we can geotag probably the markers get GPS coordinates as well and the goal being that once we know where the line is and everybody can kind of play by the rules and we can de-escalate this and resolve this as best we can. That's all I'll say. And my markers that were when the chief couldn't arrest him because I didn't have a survey. And I was bothered for a survey by him eight times at a two month period. When you can get your survey, when you can get your survey. If you don't like what we're doing, you pay for a survey, we'll go from there. Mr. St. John, we're getting our survey and we'll follow up in here. So each of you. Yes sir. Thank you. Thank you neighbors. All right. There any other? Yes sir. Stick your name and your address. You've got five minutes sir. Yeah. My name is Brian Riemer. My address is six to eight, Griff and Avenue., Griff and Avenue. I want to just probably apologize. I am one of those emails from Eden Hills that harass you. You'll be getting a note of the letter from Ryan. I know the water issue is well addressed. Thank you. The other issue that wasn't an email was the road from that intersection between Old Lake at Halford Road and yeah, CR557. I've already done that. I got a response back from J. Jarvis. And today mentioning that that was going to be lumped into a project widening the 557 road from high four all the way down to Lake Alfred and saying that that should complete somewhere around the end of 2029. That's worst case. Yeah. So that intersection right there is incredibly dangerous. I know there's quite a few accidents that have been reported on Facebook. I'm sure many more that aren't reported. Is there a plan to do something for the safety of the public around that intersection sooner? The problem with that, and then I never like pointing or pointing to other jurisdictions. I hate that when that happens to me when I call. Oh, that's the county, that's the state. Unfortunately, that's all county roads. We've been after them for a while. That project just takes forever to get these things off the ground. We've been hearing about it since 2019 on that project. And it's changed. I think the final design on it is going to be around about That will allow kind of continuous flow There's mixed opinions on it, but the you know, it's at least it's a solution Or trade-off I should say That I don't think it'll take that long. Jay's giving you worst case scenario because they they've already the contractor loose on that, I believe, and I've had updates from the county recently. So they're gonna start turning dirt on that project late summer, early fall. They're gonna break ground on it this year. And then yes, from start to finish, it will take three years. But the contractor, cause they're letting it loose all in one project now, before it was going to be phases. They were going to do one phase from the interstate down, then another phase, probably halfway, and then the final leg, which would probably be from Eden Hills into town. They didn't do that. They've let it now as one continuous contract. So the contractor, Connitz, dealers' choice. They kind of get to build the road, how they want to build it. Now generally speaking, it'll probably start from the north and come to the south. But if there's other, they might advance other areas. There's also maybe potential like if development would have come in sooner. They may build portions of the road in advance of the county getting there. So my crystal ball is not perfect and Jay's kind of giving you the worst case scenario because people kind of latch on to dates but I think the goal is to have that done a little bit sooner than the worst case scenario. But most certainly agreed. I mean that benefit of a small town is we all drive these roads. We know exactly what you're talking about. You know, I've tried, I've made the mistake and tried to turn left there a couple times too. We're just trying to get the county to stay on top of it on the maintenance side because the roads already narrow and it gets washed out and and roaded out and that's making it even even worse. So we're gonna try to do as much as we can on the maintenance side and then we'll, you we'll get the little J Jarvis voodoo doll and start putting the needles in it until we get the roundabout built there. But most certainly share your concerns and I appreciate the emails on the water pressure issue and you're absolutely right. I tell my staff all the time you know when I go to a restaurant I order the steak to temperature. I just want it delivered medium rare. I don't really care how it was butchered, how it got packaged and shipped, cold storage, you know just ordered off the menu and get it on my plate. And that's kind of the thing on utilities. You pay your water bill, you tell your trash bill, hey Ryan that's fantastic with high service pumps and pressure differentials. I just want the water to come out of my dam faucet. And so I get it. I understand 100% and we're going to work hard to make that happen for you all. Perfect. I'm doing. Thank you, sir. Thanks for coming in. OK. Anybody else? OK. Seeing none, we will move on to a recognition of citizens here. So, or excuse me, teacher appreciation week proclamation. So, I would like to ask Jennifer Brown, who is the assistant vice principal at LA Elementary to meet me at the podium, please. Thank you. Okay. We all know this is teacher appreciation week. And Jennifer and I have been friends for as part of 20 plus years. And she has started teaching in the Polk County System. I know you're going to give a little speed to the end of this. 1718's where? That's probably where I was. She's not a manager. Anyway, we talked about the recognition of our teachers and I felt it was appropriate to present Jennifer with this proclamation but at the same time it's not just the L.A. Elementary students but it's all teachers and students that we continue to spend special time with and care for. So I'm'm gonna read this into the record tonight and I'm gonna present Jennifer with this copy, but we are going to visit every school this week and present this same proclamation to them and thank them for their service and what they do for this community, thank the teachers, the assistants, and that goes for our other schools at the Presbyterian Church and the Methodist Church. So we're going to try to get out this is not a Polk County thing necessarily, it's not from the county, but it is from us to thank the teachers in our community. So I'll read this into the record here. Whereas dedicated teachers of Polk County Florida serve the families of approximately 117,000 students in more than 120 schools through the building partnerships and within their communities. And whereas teachers commit tremendous amounts of time preparing meaningful and engaging lessons while also creating safe and welcoming classroom environments. And whereas our teachers serve as role models for students and the community, exemplifying qualities, all systems, all citizens possess while encouraging children's interests, growing their belief in themselves, and helping them realize the opportunities that lie ahead. And whereas the future of our county, state, and country depends on delivering a world-class education door students, thus maintaining a productive citizenry. And whereas effective teachers have lasting influence on the lives of their students, families, and community members as they encourage our children to mature and prosper, which in turn deepens the strength of our community and a deserved our gratitude and appreciation. And whereas the City of Lake Alfred appreciates recognizes and celebrates our both county district school teachers for their work motivating students to forge ahead and take advantage of all of the possibilities afford to them. Now therefore be it proclaimed that the Lake Alfred City Commission hereby extends a one welcome and appreciation for our teachers by recognizing teacher appreciation week in the city of Lake Alfred Florida during week of May 5 through 9 2025. In witness where I have here by set my hand in the city seal on this fifth day of May 2025. So Jennifer, congratulations Thank you. Let's get a picture here. Can you move this way so I don't get the chemical? I'm sorry. Thank you. And I've asked Jennifer if she wouldn't mind to give you a brief idea of the importance of this to all of the teachers that she is now the vice principal of, and once was one for herself. I want to thank the City of Lake Alfred. We feel the growth every single day that's coming towards us. So any type of support we can get in schools that everything does. And I want to thank the mayor as well because like you he said we've known each other for a long time. One of the things we've been in a car club together, we've done a lot of things. One of the things that was the most impactful for me, I haven't been able to do it the last two years but we I started a boys club and with the boys club he took his time to come out and support us and he taught or taught them a lesson and just really spent a lot of time with them to mentor them as well so I just want to thank him for that and for his time as well. It was all about a 1937 Chevrolet Fire Department. Yes they did. They did. But I do we appreciate any support we can get and yeah we also have our wonderful chief of pulleys. He's always out there helping us with our traffic traffic's crazy these days Around the time the fire chief so she gets down there when it's While they're coming up, I wanted to mention little Lake Alfredin or city limits have eight schools. Yeah, it's a lot. A little bit more definitely more definitely more. Perfect. Thank you. Because you're so tall, Mack. One, two. Perfect, thank you so much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for coming to see me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'd like to ask Chief Bohnheimer 1962 President John F. Kennedy signed a proclamation that designated May 15 as Peace Officers Memorial Day and the week in which that date falls as National Police Week. And whereas every year the National Law and First One Enforcement Officers Association organizes a memorial service to honor police officers who have lost their lives in the line of duty. And whereas for generations, courageous men and women of our nation's law enforcement community have dedicated their lives for protecting us in big cities, small towns, and suburban neighborhood across America. And whereas we must remember that these law enforcement officers are also mothers, fathers, daughters, sons, brothers and sisters. Every day they wake up with the hope of contributing to a safer, more peaceful and flourishing world. And whereas the City of Lake Alfred honors the Valor service and dedication of all police officers and public recognizes every one of our members who served in the Lake Alfred Police Department. Now therefore, me, a proclaimed in the Lake Alfred City Commission, appreciates and honors the City of Lake Alfred Police Department and formally recognizes May 11th through 17th of National Police Week. In the City of Lake Alfred and urge all citizens to thank and acknowledge the service of law enforcement officers in our community and communities nationwide. And with this word, I have here under, set my hand, and the city seal is 5th day of May, 2025. Chief, congratulations. Thank you. It's a pleasure to receive this. And even though you've heard tonight, we don't make everybody happy. I know that. I'm sorry Mr. Summerfield left. You're close to Garlas of situations just like that. We'll still continue to strive to do our jobs, keep this city a peaceful place for our visitors and our citizens and just make a better place place. So thank you, thank you. Thank you. Applause. Thank you. One, two, three. Perfect, thank you. One, two, three. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you very much. Like this gentleman has been left on the field being there with me. Thank you again Chief. Okay. First thing we're going to do here is we're going to prove our consent agenda. So we have three items on the consent agenda, the city and the commission meeting minutes for April 21st, 2025, City Commission announcements and FEMA Community Rating System, CRS. So I'd like to first of all recognize this as a public meeting and ask anybody if they have a comment or questions about the agenda items that I've just described. Okay, seeing none, we have any comments? City commissions. Mr. Mayor, I'm like to. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the consent agenda, one, two, and three. Okay, we have a motion. And a second. Any, with the motion, and second, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Seeing none, this motion is carried. Thank you so much. OK, now we have a piece of unfinished business. And this is going to be unfinished business for very, very important reason tonight. And we've been celebrating it for a good bit. We have celebrated a year ago almost at this time as well. But Assistant General Counsel Matt Kelly of the Florida League of Cities is going to approach the podium and he has got something for Alberta's multispeak. evening like like Alfred, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioner, staff, and citizens. As said, I'm Matt Kelly from the Florida League of Cities. I'm representative of the Florida League of Cities. For those who aren't familiar with us, we're at over 100 year at this point organization, which represents Florida's over 400 cities, towns, and villages, and promotes local self-rule. We feel that is the greatest form of government, one available. I'm here this evening to recognize the remarkable public servant and community leader. It's my great honor to present Commissioner Alberta Smallsby with the John Land Years Observice Award from the Fort of League of Cities. This award is named after Mayor John Land from Apaka. He served for over 60 years for his city, which is obviously quite the accomplishment. 25 years is a great accomplishment as well, but this award is reserved for municipal officials whose long-term leadership and commitment have made a lasting impact on their communities. Tonight we're celebrating not just years but decades of service. And you know, we have the resolution here. I'm not going to read the entire resolution, but I'm going to pick out just a couple of excerpts that I think capture what municipal service really is. And here we have municipal elected officials who make significant sacrifices of their time and entities on behalf of their citizenry, making this commitment a true labor of love. And then there's one other privilege and I wanna share. And it's a local government is the government closest to the people and commissioner Commissioner, you know, Alberta Smotty has represented that shaping policy, improving infrastructure and building a stronger and more connected like Alfred through his many years of service. And on behalf of the Florida League of Cities, we're honored to present you with the John Lamb years of service resolution, which was adopted by the League of Cities, adopted by the board, and awarded to you for your many years of service. Congratulations, and thank you. And I was also told, you're not only going to graduate congratulate you for this, but I was told last month with your 94th birthday as well. So on behalf of the 4 League of Cities, I'd like to wish you a political day. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Christian. Here's the one I can show you. Oh, the great photo. So thank you very much. I'll step right behind you, if you'll mind. And actually I look at my folder at the podium. We also have a lapel pin for you, which is a very rare item. You've got to start 25 years to get one of these. So it's right here in this folder. And then there is also hanging materials for your resolution. So thank you very much, Commissioner. It's right here in this folder and then there is also hanging materials for your resolution So thank you very much, Commissioner. It's an honor. Thank you. This is where I'm at the center. I have to have a little time again. I've enjoyed both seven million of it. It's been a bad year. It'll be an honor. It's a show of thank you. I'd like to thank you, Ellen, to Wendy. So thank you, but... Right. You look on these pictures up here, we had a pretty happy man last month in Arcadia. We won the traveling trophy that night and we had 45 feet of travel to Arcadia to number one, get that traveling trophy, but number two to sing and present Mr. Maltzby with his birthday hat there and his family all came down there and tell you there's there's not a stronger family in this in this country than the Maltzby family and we have seen a huge gift of their love and affection and pride in our city. So Mr. Mulcey, God bless you. Thank you for all the models we've driven together and had great conversation. You and your daughters have had an opportunity to travel with us a little bit and just thank them for all that they do for you. We all want to wish you the best. He's got a cruise coming up here pretty quick so he's getting his seat legs stromper. So anyway, we need any pictures. Oh hi. So, Rizah, I'm going to come over here. Mr. Mullenspie. This is a key to the city of Lake Outfit, and it is presented to Commissioner Albertus Maltzby in appreciation for your 25 years of dedicated service. Those years are listed here as 1992 through 95, 95 through 98, 98 through 2001, 200808 to 2011, 2011 to 2015, 2015, 2019, 2019 to 2023, and 24 and 25. So, spend a lot of money getting all those little plaques. You're here, thank you. Thank you, Comision. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm Ryan again. Yes, sir. It's okay. And I guess it was time to play 9.4 years. You've always got a place to sit in here. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Well, Abby, the next part of our meeting. This was the first time that I had an opportunity to adjourn our city commissioners calling for or a signing die, am I correct? Yeah. And we're going to have our oaths of office now for the new commissioner and our vice mayor and myself back to our commission status. So I'd like to ask John Murphy to take it from here, sir. Good. I guess we'll go down to the podium. I think that makes the most sense. While the commissioners are coming forward, this is my distinct pleasure, Mr. Robinson. If you'll come forward, this is my distinct pleasure and honor to be able to swear in all three of the new elected officials. We'll go right there, please. How do we want to do this? Do you want to do this collectively? I want to be there. I'll be fine. All right, then if you all will please raise your right hands and repeat after me. I please state your name. I am a member of the Colerals. I am here by solemnly swear that I will support, protect and defend. The Constitution and the government of the United States, the Constitution and the government of the United States, and at the state of Florida, and at the state of Florida, that I'm duly qualified to hold office, and I am doly qualified to hold office under the Constitution of the state and the charter of the city of Lake Alfred Florida and that I will well and faithfully perform the duties of the City City Commissioner on which I am about to enter So help me God This way you know, there's also a forms the oath that you all need to officially sign and file with the City Clerk, so that the records of the income team can be signed. That concludes the oath of office this evening. And again, I say this very sincerely as my pleasure and honor to be able to do this. Thank you. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a the next floor. Can you go to your computer? Yes. I'm going to go to the next floor. Can you go to your computer? Yes. I'm going to go to the next floor. Yes. Can you go to the next floor? Yes. Can you go to the next floor? Yes. Can you go to the next floor? Yes. Can you go to the next floor? Yes. That's good to see. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. Thank you. Thank you. Congratulations again. Congratulations again. Actually, yes. You can center up. Thank you so much. This is a very special moment. We're waiting for a commission. I'm sorry, it's a mission. Oh, it's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a mission. It's a We're waiting for a commission. Oh, it's so exciting. Wait, this is so exciting. Everybody, smile. One, two, and three. Would you like me to use your camera? Your phone. It's a very special moment. to take the picture. Your phone. It's very special moment. Now, take the pictures. Especially when I'm in the room. Ready? Here. One, two, three. Come here. Sure, sure, sure. Good thing. Very good thinking. I'm sorry. Thank you. All right All right, we're ready then we will call this meeting to back to order today Monday May 5th 2025 it is approximately 807 I guess in the evening and Clerk, will you please call roll. Commissioner Fuller. Here. Commissioner Daley. Yeah. Commissioner Eden. Here. Commissioner Deerman. Here. Commissioner Robinson. Let's do that. I'm going to do some of your turn. Yes, we do. And Pierce. Just for a very short period of time. And I've actually never it quite like this where I'm sitting here but I'm happy to do that. As the agenda does indicate now is the time for nominations and the appointment of mayor and the vice mayor for the 2025-2026 commission year. So I will now open the floor for nominations for the position of mayor for the city of Lake Alfred for the 25 26 year. Mr. City attorney, I'd like to make a nomination of Mac Fuller as the mayor. Very good. There's a nomination for Mac Fuller as mayor. Mr. Fuller, I assume you accept. Yes sir. Are there any further nominations? Well, I was gonna nominate Jack Dermann but if he's a nominating Matt Roller, I'll second that as well. Very good. So if there's no further nominations for the Office of Mayor, I will entertain a motion to close nominations for the Mayor for the City of Lincoln Alfred. So moved. Second. There's been a motion made and seconded to close nominations for Mayor all those in favor of closing nominations Please say aye. All those opposed to passage in an honestly we now have the to vote on the mayor for 2025 26 year for map fuller. I will entertain a motion to do that. Make a motion then will you approve mayor? I'm not fully familiar. Second. There's been a motion made and seconded. Any further discussion? All those in favor of the motion, please say aye. Those opposed? That motion passes unanimously and is not my privilege to change seats. I'll let the mayor take over the meeting. Here,. Congratulations. Oh, welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. What a honor. It is now my privilege to ask for nominations for the position of vice mayor for 2025 and 26 so I would like to we need to ask for all again since I'm okay. Okay, maybe it's still going on. So I would like you have nominations to make it this time. Please. Do so. Nobody else? I'll nominate Nancy Daly for Vice Mayor. Second. We have a first and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That motion is carried. So I guess I forgot to ask you. Are you willing to take that? I think we have a team going here. We do. Thank you. And just so the record is clear, Mr. Mayor and the rest of the commission, the floor was closed for further nominations. I assume that was correct. No further nominations for the position of Vice Mayor would intend to be made by the commission just so the record is clear. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. So let's Okay. All right. We'll move to agenda items. Item number one is developers agreement. The springs that like Alfred and that was removed. Mr. Mackenzie are on number two. Number two. Nancy just told me that. No, I was up here looking. Okay. We're going to agenda number two, developers agreement, Lower Hills, like that city manager to present the analysis, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The Lower Hills development is a residential subdivision that is a part of an established community development district and associated, that hasn't associated with Tish and agreement. The proposed agreement memorializes the substance of actions associated with the development within the recitals, additionally, it invested development with the version of the land development code that was generally applied to the master site plan that was included in the original petitioner's agreement. The proposed agreement also includes a modification under joint review related to developments above reference. The applicant is requesting a separation of 36 feet on the column separation instead of the standard 24 feet. However, the applicant has offset this request by increasing the width of the columns by 50%. And providing a 6-but-high aluminum fence and the height was not actually specified in the regulations. So that's something we'll correct later, but they did provide a substantive buffer there. The proposed modification meets the intent of the applicable regulation for an enhanced aesthetic while securing a fent sight that maintains a functional intent of a buffer to create separation in a barrier for entry. This meets the intent of the applicable code and the city's 2030 comp plan. Percent to applicable law, the city has the authority to enter into agreements with developers. The developers agreement is regarded as supplemental to the powers conferred upon city by other laws This agreement is entered into pursuant to the general and municipal home rule powers of the city and is therefore not a development agreement under chapter 163 of Florida statutes So this is a developer's agreement not a development agreement And then it doesn't sound like a big difference to me or you, but the City of Charney's get very particular about it. Staff recommendation on this item is to approve the developer's agreement between the City of Lake Alfred and Lowry Hills, and staff will be happy to answer any questions. And just Mr. Mayor Commission to add to what the City Manager has presented to you very completely and accurately and thoroughly. There's two really actions that should be taken tonight. First, based on what the City Manager presented in motion to approve the variance request that the City Manager articulated regarding the fence. And the perimeter wall that he discussed, incorporating the findings that he articulated in terms of being in harmony, and consistent with the city's 2030 comp plan and compatible with the ULDC and consistent with all of the development standards of the city. So that would be the first motion is to approve that variance request. Approof the variance request related to the buffer modification. Right. Yes, that would need separate motion. So we need a motion. I see. Oh, I'm sorry. This is a public hearing and a public meeting. And I'd like to ask if there's any questions or comments on this motion. Okay, seeing none we'll close that option and entertain the motion. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that will you approve the variance portion of this. My reheals. Yes, the variance requested says the variance request. Mr. Manager stated was to the buffer buffer and the modification to the buffers and Variance request regarding the modification of the buffer Okay, we have the first and a second all in favor say aye Any Okay. Seeing none, that motion has carried. Now, on the general action item, Mr. Mayor, the recommendation is to approve the developer's agreement between the City of Lake Alfred and Lowry Hills. And we do have representatives from the applicant and the audience in case there are any questions, but they'll stand in deferments if there's no questions. Okay. Thank you, sir. Okay, agenda item number three, discussion. No, we need to do. We have to vote. Oh, yep. So the staff recommendation is to approve the developers agreement, Mr. Mayor, with the City of Lake Alfred and Lowry Hills. Mr. Mayor, I would move approval of the developer's agreement with Loury Hills. Loury Hills. Second. OK, we have a motion in a second. On the favor say aye. Any opposed? I'm going to add motion as carried. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay, number three is discussion legislative policy committee and other boards Like to ask the city manager to present the analysis, please Thank you, miss Mayor the legislative policy committees or the Lake Alfred City Commission serves on various boards and committees including the Florida League of Cities policy. These are divided into five different categories. You've got development, code compliance, and redevelopment committee. Jack Deereman currently sits on that finance and taxation commission, or committee commission, or Eden sits on intergovernmental relations, mobility, and emergency management. Vice Mayor Daley sits on municipal operations committee, Mayor Fuller sits on, and then utilities, natural resources, and public works committee is currently vacant. If a commissioner so desires, they may request to change the committee they serve on, and this request can be forwarded to the Florida League of Cities policy committees, meet in Orlando periodically throughout the year, those are slated for September 26th, October 17th and December 4th. Additionally, the Pope Regional Water Cooperative, Mayor Fajlair is primary representative on the Pope Regional Water Cooperative with Commissioner Deerman serving as the alternate for the Florida League of Cities Advocacy Committee. Mayor Fuller serves as the serves on that committee for the Polk Transportation Planning Organization or the TPO Vice Mayor Daily serves in that capacity and then on the Ridge League of Cities Vice Mayor Daily currently serves on that board. So that's kind of the full disposition of the substantive boards. This would be the commission's opportunity to either change representation or alternates on these or on the policy committees. There is no staff recommendation on this. This is purely a legislative item. So there's no operational elements here to where staff would provide a recommendation so it is at the pleasure of the City Commission. Okay, say public meeting and we'd like to open for public comments. There's any questions or comments to be made at this time. Okay, seeing none we'll close that option and open for city commission comments. I would like to fill the seat of the vacant position. And that would be utilities, or petrol resources, public works. Public works. Okay, and you know what you're getting into. You like it. my'm sorry. You'll like it. From my engineering days, I think it was in the VAL's running the facility and the site and the agency. Yeah, you'll be a great member of the policy committee meeting. Great. Okay. And my fellow commission time. And I. Yeah, I'd like to stay on the same committee. Come on now if it's okay with the rest of the commission. Absolutely. I would do the same for myself. That was easy. So okay. So we need to vote on that. Any more commissions? We're fine with consensus. We will inform the Florida League of Cities as to the commission of Robinson's appointment or recommendation to be appointed to that committee. Okay. Move on to item number four. Discussion. City Commission meeting day and or time change. And again, I'd like to ask city manager to present that analysis please. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Beginning in January of 2023, the City Commission changed the meeting time from 7.30 to 7.00 pm at the April 7th, 2025 City Commission meeting was requested that the City Commission has a discussion regarding the potential for moving the meeting times to six or entertaining another meeting night. The City Charter is pretty specific on this. Commission just said it's initial meet regularly, at least once a month at such times and places as the commission may prescribe by rule. So if this is something that the commission desires to change, they can just do that for the city charter. An online poll was suggested at the previous meeting. and so we did put that forward. We also kind of put together the previous information on other cities, and so I appreciate the clerk's office for updating that. So you can see Auburndale, Bartow, and then kind of got cut off there at the edge. But Auburndale, Bartow, Davenport, all the cities. You can see there's quite a few that meet at 6 p.m. That's the one that's highlighted in yellow. So, mo... Of course it moved. Give that to my ladies with a pointer hand. You can see Mulberry, Polk City, Winter Haven, all at six, Lake Wales. Oh, hi, is that Highland? Hi, one park one park. That's like an HOA, though. That doesn't even count. It's just like a CDD. Prosthrew, Fort Mead, and then you've got a Bartow. Only one had the 630 meeting with Dundee, and then you can see quite a few others that were at 7. And that I think part of what spurred the end but to just to move it from the 730 meeting because no other city in Bolt County was meeting that late. I also have the clerk kind of pull the average of the last year and a half of like the adjournment times of the different meeting. So our average time for the last year and a half is basically a two hour and nine minute meeting. So our average rate of adjournments usually at 909. You can see I highlighted some of the ones that kind of ran past that. You could see a 1047 and 1115. But those tend to be few and far in between. So just as additional perspective there, but we run about a two hour or two hour and nine minute meeting on average. And this was kind of the poll that we did with the city commission. I just got, I put that out. So user error on my part as the first poll I've ever done. It did not look pretty. And I didn't even realize that it showed everyone that voted and so that could have put the commission in a bad spot with you know identifying you know if you guys put a vote out there just with kind of the sunshine consideration and the like but that's you know that's on on staff if we did ever did polls in the future I'll probably you survey monkey or or something like that that kept that have not been on this, but that's the first poll I've ever done. And in 15 years, that's on social media. Yeah. That's one. Well, they say the basis of all intelligence is the error correction. So I will try to improve as I go, though. Hopefully we will make a habit out of it. But again, you can see pretty well split between 6 p.m. and 7, 10 percent actually wanted to go back to the 730. So, you know, shout out to the night owls out there. A small portion picked the 630, but you can tell it was a pretty even split between the current time and 6 p.m. And then we got a total of 90 votes and total. So with that, again, this is another one of the policy decisions. Staff has no input. If you guys want to meet at 6 a.m. on a Saturday, you know, that's when we'll do it. Although I didn't hear too many grumbles from the back from my staff, but again, we're here to serve the public and the commission. So it truly is just a policy call from the city commission's perspective is when you wanna meet. I wanted to ask the city attorney about curing the possible sunshine violation with the poll having our votes out in the public with each other or do we not have to worry about that? Yeah, Madam Vice Mayor. I think that the discussion tonight, and yes, we'll cure it and the transparency that the City Manager's articulated will resolve that issue. There was no clear intent and there was a, well say, a technical deficit in the survey. My sense of feeling is it's not what I want to go on, for a soft call. Just engage in truth. But yeah, I generally would not pull the elected officials. You might call your constituents. And that's what we have. I think we have to exclude the elected officials from that. Or not have this kind of pull that's open because if you had a survey monkey, then everybody couldn't see who voted. But in this particular one, if you clicked on it, you saw who else voted, which would be a violation. And we were looking to see who was doing that. Clearly that wasn't the intent. We're here tonight on May 5th to resolve this discuss and have input from the citizens or the receivers here. So I think as this lady mentioned, I'll do a little forward. Okay. Thank you. All right. So again, being a public meeting, we would allow any comments or questions that you might have. And if you have any, please come forward and state your name. Okay, seeing none none I'd like to open up for city commission comments please. I would just comment that I would like to keep it at 7 o'clock only because when I look at our general citizenship we only have a small handful of people who come to ever meeting or most meetings but when somebody wants to come and just talk to us say about their fence and their yard or whatever that's that's only a few and far between set of people and if they're gonna come and make a plan you know if they work anywhere in Poe County and they say they get off at five o'clock by the time they get home it's five thirty they want to get a bite to eat or feed the kids or you know get ready to come to a meeting I think six o'clock would be a little bit early for them. I'm good with keeping it at seven o'clock but I will listen to whatever discussion there is and what reason we would want to have to change it. I. Mayor, may I ask you a question? I too concur about the work in person that works to a 536. I can work late at times and get me right. I try to make it a 7. I know we made it a couple of years ago to 7th honk. I would be in favor of keeping it 7 to, you know, it's a good time and I think it's good for citizenry. Commissioner Rose in the committee. I agree with the current time must be on 7pm. It works for my schedule as well as the public since there was a comment from public campaign. That was a really good time for me. And I'm a, you know, I'm pretty much open to serve whenever, you know, the group this meeting time. But I do also like seven. It just, I don't have a full time, part time job. But this part time job keeps me pretty busy. And so if I could push it back to that, I do have an opportunity to take a second job occasionally and when I do that I just, I know I got traffic I'm fighting when I'm doing something on either coast. So seven works for me and again I certainly feel like it seems to be the consensus but Mr. Reed? Sure, yeah. And the reason why I brought this up to, and actually I didn't get to read all the comments, some of the comments I actually originally mentioned even due to different day because I'm raising a family, I know Commissioner Robinson is raising a family, just seemed like that Monday, you're just trying to kind of get the kids to school on time and then they're soccer or dance or all those activities. And some of the residents had mentioned that too, that Mondays and Wednesdays are not good for family in general, but then some of them, like for instance, if our average meeting time is seven. Now this is probably the fullest crowd we've had, I'd say all year except for maybe when we were getting to send my picketed at one time. But the majority of them, even if you start at seven, it goes to nine. I mean, that's traditional family time. You're getting the kids ready for bed. And then if you get into that one, there's even some tens and some nine, fifty-five, nine, forty-three. Of course, we all loved the 11-15 one But you know that that was what I heard so that's why I'm actually coming from Lakeland I get off around five ish so I would I would be putting myself which I could make that I wouldn't recommend it that but then when you also see that actually the majority times up there there are a few sevens too but the actions majority times are six so I'm like it kind of all aligned to me based on what people are saying if they were gonna come that was better for them that rather go ahead and get it through because most of the residents don't actually stay. We appreciate you guys staying for the whole meeting a lot of times. They just kind of come, do their due diligence and then walk out. So that's why I approached that. I had mentioned doing Tuesday because that's actually what somebody else said online as well. But I didn't want to, I think I mentioned that and I heard cricket so I think I scared everybody away. So that's actually what I would like to do based on what people said too but the sticks are clock seemed all aligned based on what the polls said based on what that said and actually based on what staff and a representative from the city attorney office said as well and so that's kind of where I said that but it's like you said it's at the it's whatever you guys want to do. I can make it here by six, but if nobody else wants to, then that's good too. Any other comments? All right. So we just need a few instances. We can send some questions. I think the consensus is the same. It's the same. Yeah. So consensus being seven o'clock, I agree to continue at 7. So I appreciate your buddy's input. That completes the staff's presentation. Okay, well thank you. Sure. Hold the average down. We're not at eight. We were in doubt there for a minute. Okay, now we have a second recognition of citizens and at that's point in the meeting I would like to ask any citizens that have questions on anything that we did cover this evening. Have questions or comments please feel free to come forward. Okay, seeing none, then I'll open it for Commissioner questions and comments. And I'm up first tonight. So first of all, I would like to thank the Commission for their continued support. And I take it very seriously that we've got a great group of people and to take this opportunity to have you guys in this stance. up here with me and Ryan and our directors and again it's what makes us work as well as we do together so I appreciate your confidence and thank you so much for that. I had an opportunity this last week to attend the state of the county meeting and very, very informational, very, you know, basically the commissioners. We had the people from the school district. We had a health department with their female was there, a FDOT was there. And then you just got an opportunity to see a phenomenal PowerPoint and a video that they put together. I'm going to try to get a copy of that. It's probably four or five minutes long, but it is absolutely well worth seeing again. And I do feel that they're going to try to also put that out on their link, on their. So when that happens, we'll make sure everybody knows about it. But it's sure a great picture of what we are living in today and what our future looks like. And as bleak as things kind of looked about 10 o'clock yesterday morning, I thought, we're going to have a swearing at it and a swearing in tonight. And I thank everybody that came and kind of kept it civil and it's important. And I especially you raised your hand and I appreciate your comments. I mean, I read everyone I want you to know that it means a lot to us to have that kind of input. So thank you all for participating in that. So I forgot out of state of county meeting I drove to Coco for a League of Mayors meeting over there. And again I just feel like a lot of the attendees there are not from Orlando, Kyle Hasse, Jacksonville, Tampa, Miami. We have a lot of the smaller groups represented there. And I think we stand out so strong about what we're doing with our local growth and how we handle that. And sometimes again, we feel like we're just paddling like crazy underneath the water. Maybe you don't see the ripples, but it's a lot of work in these, you know, Ryan and his directors are making it all happen very, very seamlessly. But Chief Bowenheimer, I want to ask, you mentioned specifically you and how your name came up and somebody was talking about thinking about doing the speed cameras. and I told them our experience with it and in fact one of the mayors from a very small town In fact, it's probably about 12 square miles if that and He asked me specifically for your name. You may have already contacted but he was wanting to ask some different Questions about how we determine and so forth. So if you do get it. I've got his card If you want to to know but anyway you may get a call from somebody and I just told them to ask for you and tell them that I've referred you. But and and going along with you know we've got a good enough group here tonight that has been aware of what's going on in our streets and and without asking chief to come up I would and if'm wrong very, very far off the point here correct me, but we started out January our first month we wrote 15,200 tickets roughly. Next month we dropped down about 10,000 and then the third month we got down to 5,000. So what it tells me and I see heads going like this, it's it's working and our net goal on that is zero. And whether we ever see zero, I doubt that I doubt that will happen. But I think we've got people's attention right now. And again, it's all about the safety of these kids and our crossing guards and our police department because again, they they're still in the middle of it and not just you know, sitting in a traffic here in that school zone but it's just important that people are paying attention to that so I do thank them for that. So I want to thank both chiefs for being here and all of our visitors. This is a great meeting. It's so good to see friendly faces, lots of smiles, and even some difficult conversations that we had to hear and be part of tonight. It's, that's what this is all about. And you come here and it's why we're here is to listen to you and to try to help you understand that there's a lot of things going on. And you've got that question you've got that seat right in front of us and the microphone is yours so we invite you anytime to please come back and join us. Special thanks to Matt Kelly and John Murphy for coming in this evening for your presentations and your assistance with our meeting and I know you guys have traveled and gotten here anyway appreciate your good work and lastly I want to welcome Ronnie and Amy and your family and I could just tell you you've got her special family. I Got a little trouble last week for She glad nothing But Miss Amy is your rock. And would you... Just because I want you to, would you ask your family to stay and please introduce them to us? Okay. Sure. Please rise. So starting with my lovely mother that made it in for this special occasion for Rannis Robinson right here in front of me green. And then my dad, Rannis Senior, behind, and then Melvin Keeshawn Williams is my oldest son. And then next to him, we have Amaya. And then we have Jordan. Birthday girl. And yeah, Maya's birthday is today. And I as well. And next to her is the baby, Jordan. And then Callie is home for in college. And then behind Callie was Rhyne De Therard, also a tray, who's a representative of Auburndale Fire Department. And then next to him is my nephew, Mason, and my lovely wife Amy, the rock soldier, 23, 23 years? You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're here. She helps me go a lot. I'm glad there's tissues up here because just like Commissioner Mosby, I do tend to get emotional because this is not about positions entitled. It's about the people and the helping the community, which is why I started in the industry that I'm in because I like helping people. And I like to see growth and I like to make sure that everybody's happy to get along. I'm looking forward to serving the lovely city of Lake Alford. I can't remember from the first time I stepped foot in, and I'm meeting like this. It was awesome. I know it's not my turn to say thank you. Your buzzer just about ready to go off. That's all for me. I want one thing. And Ryan was kind of a fall of desert because in whatever I don't know you said something and he was like, oops, I didn't get it. Well, that's the same thing. I don't do signing die and I don't do a lot of this stuff. But you know, if you only brush your teeth twice a year, you forget that too. So put that in your fun. But anyway, it's been a pleasure to be here with you this evening. And again, thank you so much to the city employees that are here and to our residents here and proud to be your man. And next time I'd ask Vice Mayor Dele Goudh, Syed. Thank you. I really appreciate the opportunity to remain as Vice Mayor. I think keeping consistency is important and I think we have a good team going and we've been doing a really good job these last couple of years so I appreciate the support and I want to say that I'm really proud of the diversity of our commission. We have a you know a few older, a few younger, a few different ethnicities, a couple of guys and a girl, you know it's it's not always the same people when you look at like congress or you know some of to other government entities It's just the same person and it doesn't reflect the people that we serve so I like the fact that we have different points of view that reflect the people that we serve so I appreciate that Couple of housekeeping notes. There's an FDOT court of meeting on This coming Tuesday at the Bob Fellers. No, Wednesday. Wednesday the 7th at 430. It's about the toll road that they're going to build from 60 up to I-4, 6 miles west of 27. If you have any comments or you can go on the FDOT website and register comments about that. Also we have lots of graduations coming up like I was saying earlier with all the schools we have in Lake Alfred the Karen Segal graduation we are all invited to attend if you want to RSCP it's on May 10thth at Saturday morning at Lake Region. The Discovery High School graduation is May 25th at the Lakeland Center, our P funding. The Life Skills Academy is May 16th and we're all invited to that. You wanna go and that's always very uplifting to watch those kids. And then on May 20th, the Discovery High School Awards night, and I get to present a scholarship from the Ridge League of Cities for a vocational student that's going to be able to take part in that. So it's a lot of good things coming up and you know we're real supportive of the schools and Really appreciate that we have them right here close to town so thank you very much and I will turn it back over to Mayor for the next person. Okay and now officially, Commissioner Roberts. Your turn. Thank you Mayor and thank you to the staff and city attorney and city clerk for welcoming me and guiding me through the process. One of the life changing experiences that I Recently, when I was running for this position and setting up a campaign. I've never done anything like that in my life but it was luckily a lot of fun and it was a great learning environment and when you have a city like this that gives back and they boyhand and they show you basically love then you can't you can't turn. So it's kind of like, I felt like family right away. And that wasn't the same feeling that my heart rusted my family felt. So they were, we moved from Ohio, Columbus, Ohio, four years ago, exactly back in April. And you know, there was a lot of them had a hard time, a lot of my family had a hard time, but I immediately just dove in. I came to one of these meetings and I was just like, this is why we're here. This is why we're here, because these are great people. This is a great city and I love how the agendas are all laid out and you can see the growth and you can see the decisions that you make and I'm just super excited to try to stay calm but I'm super excited to jump right in and help our city and everyone in it appreciate why we're all here and the atmosphere that we're going to bring and the ease of infrastructure so that it's easier to get around and we're not sitting through trifles and things like that. So I'm looking forward to helping with that situation. Thank you very much for everyone for the votes, the support and God bless you all. Thank you. Commissioner Eaton, you're up next. Thank you. Ronnie, does that make you a buck? Okay. Yes. See, he just made the best speech, but that's all I heard in my life. That's not for Michigan. But we're, but we're going to get along just fine. But that was a great speech, but that just, like, OK, that's OK. So I want to, that's kind of what I do appear. I like to, we all have busy schedules, so I like to try to make light of moments. I want to first just thank Commissioner Ballsby again for all his years of service. I know it's been a lot of time on that, which really do appreciate you. And I'm pretty sure you have all of our numbers. So if you ever... I want to first just thank Commissioner Ballsby again for all his years of service. I know he's been a lot of time on that, but we truly do appreciate you. And I'm pretty sure you have all of our numbers. So if you ever even just want to go to LA Diner or whatever the case is, you know, I'm sure I can speak to myself, but everybody else that we're definitely there for you. I'm always going to thank all the first responders, both Chiefs in the back. I think Chief Golden Hires is the best. I know I was gonna make everybody happy, but I truly appreciate you. My family truly appreciate you. And we just, I think the word around here, you can't retire, right? There's the R word. So I don't know how many years you have left. We hope it's at least a dozen or so. I want to also welcome back Mary Futter and Vice Mayor Dan Daly as well as welcome Commissioner Robinson. I was just in your footsteps six years ago so I can just give me goosebumps just thinking about it now so just you know my thing was like trying not to cry when I was up there because I'm like okay you know you got to and everything. But, you know, that special feeling doesn't go away. Like you said, we're up here. I mean, that was always my goal as well as, you know, once all the departments are funded properly, you know, let's put the money back in the community, you know, with community events, parks. So, you just did it, what everybody said. I think we have a great team, different backgrounds, different, you know, whether it be diversity in all age, race, ethnicity, and background. You know, some of us come to different backgrounds as well, let it be financial. be diversity in all age race that nethe city as well and background. You know, some of us come to different backgrounds as well. Let it be financial, engineering and all the likes. So that's all I have. Just thank you everybody and thank you everybody for coming. It's nice to see a good crowd. And that's all I have. Thank you, sir. Let me show you your draft. It's I will wrap it up. Mr. Malfee, it's been a pleasure. I've known you my whole time. I've lived in like Alfred. And you've been a special person in this city for many years and you've just took out some more years to go. Just honored to be up here with a great group of people. Ronnie, congratulations for coming on board. Just some highlights. We've got a lot of things happening in like Alphard. We have a new auto zone coming in town. Nobody knows. We're getting some streets, you know, roads being fixed. Main highway. In Central Park, we have a new playground coming on board that's really coming together. So with all the growth and things there's small things and there's big things but we put it all together and it's the support of you citizens up here and the city manager and his staff to do an excellent job and just looking forward to all the kids that are going to be closing out their school years and that's all I have. Thank you Mayor. My pleasure. Okay, I'd like to join this meeting and thanks everybody for coming tonight. Great meeting and we'll look forward to having you back again soon. We'll have a big 50.