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This was the agency board, today September 11, 2024, getting some welcome welcome everybody to our agenda and our regular meeting of the Avalanto City Council, the Avalanto Public Financing Authority, the Avalanto Public Utility Authority. Exactly, we have a committee in progress. the other one to public financing authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. The other one to public it to the authority. in progress. I can't keep repeating what the mayor just said. We welcome everybody to our agenda and our regular meeting of the other Council. The other on to public financing authority. The other on to public. Exactly. We have a meeting regarding in progress. I can't keep repeating what the mayor just said. We welcome everybody to our agenda and our regular meeting. I'm sorry, I'm meeting. The public financing authority, the other one to public. Exactly. We have a meeting planning in progress. Can you hear me Brenda? Today September 11th. I can. I keep repeating what the mayor just said. Welcome everybody to our agenda. Thank you Brenda. Thank you Brenda. I think they're welcome. So that being said, Thank you Brenda. So with that being said multiple times we're going to go ahead and get started at 1101 Brenda can you get started with the roll hop please? Yes Your Honor Councillor Chinette. Present. Councillor Maisa. Present. Councillor Upturgro. Present. Mayor Potem Ramos. Present. Mayor Reyes. Present. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and leave some the invocation and Mayor Pro Tem. Can there is a little flexible please? Sir. Almost greatest 75 of the working great Lord for the ability to be able to come here before you this day and this service people serve the community and the residents of the great city of other lump of the guy we asked that as we take care of the city business Lord that we do it with the intentions of doing what's best for our community with doing best for the people of the lump of the guy we're grateful for everyone that is in attendance in person and via telecommunications services we just asked that we continuously you know fulfill the will of the people and the city of our lives. We love you and in your name you pray. Amen. Hand over your heart. Hi. Welcome to the United States of America. And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, and the liberty of justice for all. the that that being said I'm motion for the approval of the agenda all those second all in favor I see the manager any announcements or reports? Yes. Good morning. Good morning Mayor Reyes, Mayor Pro Tem Ramo, City Council staff and members of the public. Under your leadership we continue to make significant progress in all areas of our city. To our first responders on behalf of the city council. I would like to thank and recognize our first responders for their dedication and sacrifice in keeping our communities safe. The city of Adelaun to his on standby and ready to assist our county fire and sheriff departments should they meet assistance with the ongoing wildfires. Our thoughts and prayers are with the affected families and for the safety of our firefighters. On that same note, our public works department has been working diligently throughout the week and the weekend. Weekends to address weed abatement and illegal dumping throughout the week and the weekend, weekends to address weed abatement and illegal dumping throughout the city. These efforts are crucial in mitigating potential fire hazards and other dangers. I'd also like to acknowledge our coding enforcement department for their support in assisting public works with these efforts and for addressing illegal food vending through outer city. Park update. We are excited to announce the grand opening of the Adelante's newest park in 20 on the 28th on the 28th, which is a Saturday at noon. Staff is actively engaging with the community to spread the word about this important event. I'd like to mention that this is the first park, the first park the city has built in over 30 years. And I want to commend. I would like to commend Mayor Reyes, Mayor Pro Temeramos and the City Council for their efforts in making this happen. Additionally, we are working on a second new park for the city. By the way we've also installed security cameras at the new park off the Chamberlain and Jonathan at no cost to the city, no cost to the city and thanks to our IT department LandWan, Rami the CEO, who was able to put that together for us again at no cost to the city by installing some of these Department of Defense high-end surveillance cameras. Thank you, sir. I will pass that along to Rami. Thank you. Thank you, Zach. And grant funding. Mayor Pro Temeramos, thank you very much for bringing to our attention. Some of the latest state and federal grant opportunities offered by the Southern California Association of Governments, also known as SCAG, and the San Bernardino County Transportation Authority, also known as SBCTA, were both you and Mayor Reyes serve as board members. You're ongoing involvement with these agencies, this vital and securing much needed resources and funding for our residents. And you have been very successful. You have been very successful in attracting very much needed funds for our community. I also want to acknowledge Saba. Saba. I'd want to acknowledge Saba. Saba. I'd like to acknowledge Saba for who is our grant writer. She has been working closely with representatives from both agencies, SCAG and SBCTA, and is making progress on the application submissions. We will keep you posted and updated on that as well. It's through these grants, it's through these grants that we are able to make significant improvements through our city by paving new roads, installing new sidewalks where they don't exist, and upgrading water and sewer lines across the city. Most recently these funds have allowed us to build a new park for our community with a second one underway as I previously mentioned. Public Transportation Councilwoman Joy Jeanette as per your, we have successfully installed new bus, new bus stop benches and shade covers along the Victor Valley Transit Authority routes to how protect our right share residents from the harsh weather conditions that we're exposed to here in the high desert. I'm happy to report that this project is now complete. We would like to continue on that effort. If you can please reach out to Victor Valley Transit and Authority, you're also a board member of so that we can secure some additional benches and covers to continue on that path. In closing, we are pleased to announce the final phase of the new paving of Balfour Street. And this will no longer be known as Buck Bordelli. That item is coming before you today for your consideration and support. This concludes my report. Thank you. Thank you so much to the manager. Amazing, amazing reports. I'm going to go ahead and bring it to the manager. Amazing, amazing reports. Gonna go ahead and bring it to Council. Councilor Mesa, any updates or reports? Yeah, thank you. The only we didn't forget is our planning commission. So I just wanna make sure we acknowledge our planning commission and passing all these parks. So they were a big part in that aspect too. So thank you to our planning commission for passing everything. Thank you. Air quality. I've been working with my company in the city so I'm gonna bring something up later after the meeting. Well the end of the meeting about air quality was able to help new leaf this last week pass out some food to some of the residents around the areas. So that was cool. I did attend movies in the park, very low attendance, unfortunately because of the weather. It was really, really hot. So I'll be bringing something up. I think we should postpone it. So I want to postpone it, especially with what's going on right now. I don't think it's right. It was a hundred and nine degrees that last Friday, I think. I was out there showing it, but it was a little too much. I think that's why we didn't have the outcome that we wanted. It was a really good movie. Charles was really good. So I just think we should talk about that as well. If that's the consensus of the council, we will postpone it. Okay, cool. I'm excited about the new park 30 years. I think it's a huge thing. So I just want to reiterate that. It's a great park that's on that side of the umbarlet. It's going to be amazing to go. I'm going to bring my kids over there. I just want to know if the water's going to be available Saturday. I'm coming to my trunks, bro. I got as long as you wear trunks, nothing else. That's all I got for my update. Thank you. Gantz woman, up to grow. I don't know. Go ahead. Good morning everybody. It's awesome to do this in the morning time. This is cool. Let's see. It has been, you know, first I just want to take a moment to recognize that it is September 11th. And for those, many of us have taken a moment today in this morning to acknowledge all of those who were affected in September 11th, 2001. And so we wanna make sure that we just take that second if we could just take a moment of silence. And so I know our city council and all the members of our team, you know, we will never forget. So our hearts and our thoughts and our prayers are with everybody and all of their families today. Also with everything that's going on with these fires all around us, you know, we just, we got to stay indoors. I mean, really, we got to stay safe and healthy and I'm really glad to see that the Adelante Elementary School District made the decision to close the schools today so thank you to them because that was responsible. Appreciate that. And I actually got to serve for the very first time last Thursday as our district won's behavioral commissioner for our county or for this area. So I was super excited. I got to learn so much and I actually had the privilege of serving with Lieutenant K. Howe. He was also part of our first district representative. And so it was such a great experience. We were welcomed warmly by everybody on the board and we were able to participate in celebrate recovery. This is the month for recovery and we are super super excited to hear some of the great testimonials that are coming out of the Department of Behavioral Health and of course all throughout our county and all in through the churches and so all the people are Definitely celebrating recovery this month and that is a good good thing September is also suicide awareness and prevention month So we definitely want to let people know that there are people out there who cares and if you are suffering if you're having those thoughts There are resources not just within the church, but there are counselors who are available. Two, one, one is an excellent resource and so is, oh my gosh, I'm gonna forget. Give it to me one second. What is it? 988, thank you. Yes, I was like, I'm dyslexic, I get them all wrong, I'm gonna say the wrong three numbers. So yes, that is a great resource, but I mean everybody has somebody and if you feel, you know, the one thing that I have learned just in the mental health profession is that feelings lie. And so you don't have to listen to those feelings. And there are people that you can reach out to if you need help or you need a conversation or just somebody to talk to. That's what those lines, that's what those people are there for. And they're there for each and every one of you, your family members, your friends, and even the youth. So we wanna make that available. And I too agree that with Councilman Mesa, that movies in the park, maybe, you know, should be delayed and rescheduled as a result of our current air quality so that's it for me. Good morning good morning I'm not going to say as much as our mayor did this morning I think we heard it about 10 times it repeated and repeated repeated. I know it it's a good morning anyway this morning the seniors got together and honored those who gave their lives for 9-11. And we had prayer for them and also remembering their families. That was horrific. I mean, who would ever think in America that that would happen? And let's just pray that things change, that we could love one another and care for one another and be there for one another and show respect to each other. I'm working on several programs right now, new ones. And right now I'm working on a program for spay and neuter for our animals. As you know, we're highly populated for dogs, and I don't know about cats so much, but there's dogs everywhere. It seems like there's dogs everywhere. It seems like there's dogs everywhere. And if they're not neutered and so forth, this is going to happen. It's nature. It's just a nature. So what I'm looking at is a free program. And I'm working on it right now. And I can't announce it all right now, but it's going to be fabulous. And then we'll be able to bring in dogs and things and get that taken care of. And we've got to do something about this population. For them, there's dogs out there in this heat. It may be the smoke. I'm sure. You know, just if you see straight, I was give them water, give them food. If you have it, I know we do. We do the best we can. So let's see we can do it to help them. It's not their fault that someone's let them lose. Give them some love. Also working with Kingscafe's Senior Club, we're working on a new home for them so that the seniors will be able to come in and play cards or just have a good time, a socialization and all that's going to be a lot of fun. So we're looking at a new place for that. And it'll be, I'm not sure the hours yet, we're going to be working on that. And if you would like to be part of that, contact me. It texts me because I don't have internet. Somehow, frontier and I don't get along, I guess, because I don't get their service. I do pay for it. And text me at 805, 734, 795, I'll get back to you. We're going to put a committee together, and not only for the seniors, but for the dogs and the animals and spading. We've got to get that moving. You people have to be involved in this. We're just your representatives. We want to do all of us want to do what your heart's desire is. And we don't know if you're not participating. So we have to have you. So you out there that's listening on Zoom or whatever which way you're doing it, you've got to be involved. Don't I don't want to hear your complaints if you're not willing to give it yourself and help make the change. That has to happen. So also I'm excited about the park on the 28th coming up at Jonathan. All the years that I've been here, I like you said Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem, we've not had one. And so Mark Coney was the last one I knew about. That was years and years and years ago. But anyway, I'm excited about that. Also, Victor Valley Transit Authority meeting will be next Monday, the 16th, and it'll be out there in his spare. And text me again if you want to know the directions if you don't know how to look it up or whatever. And it starts at 9.30 in the morning. You have any complaints about the bus system and all of that. Please let them know. Let them know also. You're excited about all these new bus stops we have to protect our residents. It's been a long time coming. And I'm so grateful. I want to say, Jesse, I can't do that. Our city manager, thank you for seeing that through. We sure appreciate that. And another new program I'm coming up with, it's Veterans, the homeless situation. I am appalled to see the homeless veterans out there on the streets. I ran into, not literally ran into, but I came across a veteran, one of the veterans, on the curb side, just a curb sleeping sleeping covered with a blanket and a tarp. Honest to Pete, these people gave their whole life for us that we could have our freedoms. Why aren't we doing more for them? There shouldn't be one veteran homeless, unless that's their choice, and I doubt it would be their choice. They've come across other things and to subsidize their pain and their hurt and their lossness and all that. But we as people need to stand up and take responsibility as they did for us. And you're going to be hearing about a new program. And you who wants to belong to that committee, you let me know, text me. And we're going gonna get that together. And with that, I guess that's it. And thank you, Council, you're doing a great job. I'm proud to be part of you. Wonderful to see our water people out here. Keep us going on the right direction, and all of our visitors, thank you for coming. And Bill, always good to see you, and we appreciate everybody. Thank you so much. Mayor Prattín. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Great updates, Council. Great morning, great morning, great morning, everybody. Thank you for being an attendance today. Buenos días. He's Linda, he's Linda, he's Spanish, he's Spanish. Muchas gracias por estar con nosotros hoy. Just some updates, guys, and then a couple little messages that I wanted to give out. Friday, August 30th, I was able to attend a tour of Port Winemey, which was scheduled through SCAG. And guys, it was my first time there and shame on me because as a Navy veteran and they're being a Navy base there, I should have been there a long time ago, but I was blown away by the attention to detail and the amazing job that the Port Director and the Commission is doing down there. Now I see why they're not as backed up and it's not as crazy as the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles. I didn't know that they're the number one import for German automobiles, bananas, blueberries and kiwis. And it was just amazing to be around so many BMWs and so many bananas. They literally import anywhere from 300 to 1000 German automobiles a week. And every single one of those automobiles is driven off the ship by volunteers and individuals into their distribution center there about a mile away from the port. Same thing with bananas, truck loads and truck loads not just from one company, but Chiquita, Dull and any other brand you can think of. They all share that port right there and they all share that distribution center So thank you scag for setting up that tour and thank you for allowing you know the city of alanto to be their president City manager there was a lot a lot of talk about these import these inland ports They're just running out of room Los Angeles Long Beach and Port White Neme as well. So you're going to be hearing a lot of just talk and information that's going to be coming down to Pipeline in regards to grant funding and funds that are going to be available from the federal government there to start creating these inland ports. We talked a little bit about our location here and the lower part of the IE and they're very, very much interested. So I am in communications with the director, the director of the port there, to see if we can get staff a tour down there here within the next month. So that maybe, you know, I can get the brains out there and start talking about what we can do to maybe potentially create in-lamp port. September 28th is the banana festival down there from I believe 10 AM to 5 PMs. If you guys look it up and they're just saying that the amount of things that they're able to do, Banana's down there is insane. So I'm gonna be president. I invite anybody from the community or from, you know, staff or the council to come on down with me. I think it'll be a great time after our grand opening that day. Wednesday, September 4th, our SBCTA meeting nothing too much to report back there just a reminder to all of our residents of all the ongoing work that's going on on 3.95. Again, thank you SBCTA, thank you, CalTrans for you know, patching this up, fixing this up and expanding 3.95 for us. Please be cautious when you're taking that 3.95 route as roadwork will continue there for a long time. Thursday, September 5th, attended our Energy and Environment Committee down at the SKAG headquarters. You hit it on the head, City Manager, the officially the regional early action plan 2.0 grant funding has been approved. There's a lot of money in the pot for us to go after. Sabah, thank you for all the work that you're doing. They actually, they're throwing your name down there in a good way. Sabah, so they know about you and they know about Adelanto, which is always great to hear. One suggestion that I would make is if we're not already doing so, let's potentially try and partner up with neighboring agencies, because when you attack these grants as collectively one, two, or three cities, there's a higher possibility of us not only getting the grant, but receiving a little bit more grant money. Friday, 9.6, thank you, Councilman Mesa for attending movies in the park. I do agree with you. We should definitely kind of huddle up and talk about what our plan is for these next, especially this next Friday coming up if If the air is gonna continue to be the way it's looking like right now, which it probably is It's probably a good idea to come up with a plan to postpone it I don't want to be out there breathing this stuff in. I don't want my kids So I don't feel our residents should be out there as well. So let's definitely get together and figure out a plan for that. A couple announcements. Thank you, Council, for taking a moment to recognize today at 9-11. I do as well want to thank all active duty reservists, veterans, for the sacrifice and the service that you make while standing to watch, city manager. Thank you for your service as well. That's definitely one of my proudest moments in life is serving during that time And I was actually on board the the USS John C. Stennis Attached to HSA and we were actually the second ship to go out there and attack You know the cowards that that attacked us So thank you guys for taking a moment to remember 9-Eleven With what we currently got going on in our current state of emergency guys I just want to take a quick second to thank Mayor, thank the council, thank city manager for being proactive during this time. I know myself mayor and city manager were up to about 2.30, 2.33 AM last night. Just coming up with a plan, offering services to our first responders, to our fire chief. And thank you city manager for opening up our city and not waiting for them to ask, but for being proactive and approaching them and saying, hey guys, we have a stadium and we have resources, whatever we can do to help. We're here. Thank you to our county supervisors, to all of our supervisors, our firefighters, our first responders, law enforcement officers, and volunteers, supervisor cook, Mr. Almonderas, Mrs. Rao, supervisor Hagman, supervisor Bako Jr., thank you guys for everything that you're doing during this time. I do want to read this quick statement into the record. Under our current state of emergency, I want to express my heartfelt gratitude, appreciation, and thanks to all firefighters, first responders, law enforcement officers, national guard members, and volunteers who are tirelessly working to protect our communities during these challenging fires. Your bravery and dedication does not go unnoticed and we are thankful for your sacrifice as well as willingness to stand the watch. Please know that we are keeping your families, we are keeping you, your families, and all those affected by the fires in our thoughts and prayers. Your commitment to safeguarding lives and property is truly inspiring and we stand with you in solidarity. Thank you for everything you've done are doing and we'll continue to do your efforts make a significant difference and will be the reason our communities will be made whole again, you all are truly our heroes. With that being said, the last thing I wanted to mention, anybody with large animals, small animals, the fairgrounds right now is active to take, initially the reports were only large animals, right now they are taking large animals and small animals. So if you need help with your pets or your horses or your cows or your goats or your sheep's. Please contact the fairgrounds and they'll be able to help you out and assist you. That's all I got. Thank you so much, Council. I think it goes without notice and know that all these amazing updates that we have individually from all the boards that we sit on is the reason why all the lancos able to grow the way that we grow. Tackling different areas, being responsible at different areas, right? This is where, you know, the leadership on this council goes to just really show why there's articles being written on a regular basis. Why the city of Llamto is one of the top growing and fastest cities in Southern California, right? With this type of representation. So thank you all for everything that it is that you do. I wanted to make this a quick mention. And again, Kudos to, you know, kind of going alongside with my fellow council members. Thank you to all of our veterans. Thank you to everyone, our firefighters, our, the men and women who were present and lost their lives. I'm on 9-11, what, 20, 22, 23 years ago, right? So thank you, Councilwoman, up to grow for taking the moment of silence for them. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem, for being one of the first ships out, you know, for everyone that selflessly, selflessly gave of their lives to be able to defend our freedoms. You know, just thank you for all that you've done and all that you all continuously do on a day and a day outpaces to our firefighters. And all of our first responders were now dealing with all of these fires. My thoughts, my prayers go out to all of you, to your families. And we just pray for your guys of safety, your men and we just pray for for for for your guys of safety. You're men and women and you're safety for for being out there to protect the lives and and the properties of so many people. With that being said, we do have some other announcements this Saturday. New Leaf Ministries does have their close drive from 8 to 2 and then Sunday from 8 to 2. So they're extending hours this weekend. They were able to be a part of a great HD we love you week and got a whole bunch of clothes right so able to continue to get back to the community so thank you for that. We also have. Just in regards to these fires, if you guys are wanting a resource that you can look at to stay up to date with the information There's a great app called WatchDuty that you can download onto your phone and it gives continuous updates of what's going on the evacuation areas, the zones, everything that you need to know in regards to What's going on with these fires? So that is a great great app to have on your phone and it's extremely resourceful right now to stay up to date with what it is what's going on with these fires. So that is a great, great app to have on your phone and is extremely resourceful right now to stay up to date with what it is that's going on. I did attend my SCAG meeting for the Community Economic and Housing Authority that I set on with SCAG. And let me tell you, a lot of these cities who have issues and are not happy with the renal numbers and the renal process. It is, you know, hearing it, I do the best that I can to not have my personal views affect the things that are being asked of us to be able to move forward. But when the sitting in on these meetings and listening to the fact that are elected officials are not wanting reform when it comes to the rena process is very, very discouraging because a lot of entities are saying that there's a major problem with the way that this this arena process is going on, and it's not going to ever produce a result for us to actually address the quote-unquote issues when it comes to housing, right? And it's going to the point where the main representative that is appointed by Governor Newsom is declining meetings with the entities that are wanting to get proactive when it comes to housing. So this is where us, as a community, us as people, this is where we go to our assemblymen, where we go to our senators, and we tell them, you guys need to do something to really address and pass law to support and create something when it comes to housing. There are even thrown around the L word, right, of coming together as entities because it is ridiculous on how much pushback it is that they're getting. Now, here you have an organization like SCAG that is approved hundreds of millions of dollars for grant funding to be able to do these things to be able to you know be proactive and They're they're getting still want, you know, and it's it's crazy. So That's just something to keep in mind that you know that they're wanting to talk about reform when it comes to the arena process There's a lot of things that are not being addressed. I'll give you guys an example that was quite alarming for me. In our city, there's categories, right? And for low income, you know, and that low income portion of includes homelessness, right? They have created two additional categories to mandate the cities to now build housing for homeless. Not just the shelters, but specifically housing for the homeless. So they're taking it from one bigger pot and now they're mandating and my question was a city like Alamto, our last count that we did not even six months ago, I think we barely hit the double digits. the last month of the month our arena numbers and the process and our housing element, if we do not incorporate housing for them now. So just to keep you guys informed, there's a lot of things and a lot of pushback and a lot of things that the state right now is not doing to try to work with the municipalities to hear the concerns of all the other cities going on. So that was a very, very interesting meeting that I was a part of. I was grateful for it. But when we're seven, keep you guys in the loop when it comes to that. Mayor Pro Tem myself and the city manager, we had a great meeting with Brightline. They came down here to the city with Mayor Pro Tem, our Bishop from the town of Appalvali to talk about the process and talk about what's going on with the speed rail and the economic stimulus is in the bring to our communities. So nothing crazy to report out of that, but outside of those few meetings, that is all that I have for today. Gonna go ahead and move on with our Council meeting and go to public comments and open the public comments here at 1133 If members of audience would like to address the council we have the yellow speaker cards So we're gonna go ahead and get started here with mr. C. J. Page DJ Page. Good morning, City Councilman. Good morning, Mayor. I just want you to stop by to introduce myself. I am the director and founder of a nonprofit organization locally in the community called Community Health Action Network. And we've been serving resources in the community well over 15 years. And one of the resources that we have tied in with the city of Atlanta is our Utility Assistant Program that deals with financial literacy for them to understand how to create the budget for themselves. I wanted to identify myself as one of the leaders in the community to you so you can see who I am and who our organization is. My request is that we're waiting. We receive a lot of a Atlanta resident that comes in asking for assistance, asking for resources. I stopped by to say if we can all hit and approve the CDBG, so we can continuously to serving those residents in the community. Times is getting more and more hard and families aren't getting by the wayside and getting into the street because we are statistically in data wise, one check away for being in the street. We want to help and we have the ability to help with your support and with the services that you have granted us. So please, if you get an opportunity, let's approve the CDBG so we can have the resident of the city of Atlanta to continuously to have some type of normalcy in their life. Thank you for your time. I truly appreciate it. It's good to see you everyone. Thank you for your time. I truly appreciate it. It's good to see you, everyone. Thank you so much. Mr. Dubel-Chain. Good morning, loved ones. Glad to be here. Thank you all for everything that you do. And I just wanted to take this opportunity to make the residents and the council aware of the upcoming candidate forum that we're having here in the city of Alonso is scheduled for October 4th. It's going to take place at 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. And we're looking forward to getting all of our residents out to be able to ask questions. We're also hosting a high desert wide candidate forum. And that candidate forum has taken place on September 19th and September 26th and that one is gonna go from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. And that's gonna take place at Victor Valley Resource Center in Hesperia and that address is 1 6 00, Yucca Street in Hesperia. And we're encouraging residents, or just our residents of the High Desert to get out there early. The focus on that particular candidate form is gonna be around housing. So I look forward to just all of us collectively at every level of government really address an issue of housing. Thank you so much for your time. Keep spreading the... Thank you. much for your time. Keep spreading. Thank you. I'd like to say something. Thank you. I didn't recognize you. Okay. I just two quick things. I just wanted to comment on Mr. C.J. Sir, I just wanted to thank you for all the hard work that you've done, that you're doing, and that I know you will continue to do. It's different when people have to do something, right? It's you have to do it. You don't have a choice, right? It's maybe it's your livelihood or maybe it's whatever it is, but you have to do it. But when people don't have to do something and they choose to do something, right, that's what makes it special. And I know enough about you to know that you don't have to be a servant to our community if you don't want to, right? But you choose to wake up every single day and fight the fight and be in the trenches, right, to provide for all of our residents, including Burning Man people appearing to Council as well, right? So thank you for that. It means a lot to me. And the second thing I wanted to point out was there's no secret guys. We are in campaign season, right? And Sarah, this is nothing. Toward this is just a general statement, right? During campaign season, there's a lot of forms that come out, right? And you know, I've started to see them come out on on social medias and I started I'm starting to get the Invitations what I what I want to say is this though is for elected officials that are currently in the seat Our job doesn't stop and our duty doesn't stop during this campaign season right? So if there's ever a forum, an event, a gathering that somebody can attend, and I'm just gonna speak on behalf of this council, I'm not worried about all the other councils, I can't speak for them, but I know for myself, if there's an opportunity to go to a forum, or there's an opportunity to represent the city of Alanto and its residents at a meeting, at a committee, at a board that means change for our community. I'm picking that right and it's no shot and it's no disrespect and it's not because I don't care about the people's vote and I don't it's not that it's because I care more about our city and our residents and continuing to move this city forward than I do a forum. Then I do a gathering. Then I do a meet and greet, right? So as I will try and attend a lot of these meet and greets that are there, I apologize in advance if I'm not able to, but I will give you guys a heads up now. There's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes in these next couple of months that are going to be great for the city and we must. I'll say that again, we must have representation from the city of Alonso at these meetings, at these tables, at present in these rooms. So thank you guys for everything that you do in setting up these forums and these meet and greets and everything, sir. It means a lot to the community. And best believe if I'm not able, you will have an email from me explaining to you why I'm not so that you know it's not just some bull jai. Thank you. Back to the comment. Senora Veronica. very good. So, in our project, it's always been to help us in our community, right? The way our purpose is always to help and be involved in the community. So, what we've come here to talk that our bills have increased in rates. I would like to ask if we could have some guidance to be able to lower those the rates or the bills that we have or the way we could do that or some support because we understand that things go up and increase in price but we do need help. So the bill example of electricity bill is higher. The water bill is higher. And some neighbors even say we don't even make sure to to safeguard the water but we still have higher bills. I know that there are many needs here in our community. One of them is also a problem that we have that there are many cases that don't have lights. So we understand that there are a lot of problems and we understand that there's also many streets that don't even have light posts. We're very grateful for all the things that are coming to the city, and we appreciate it. But also, we understand that this is in a long term, but if there is any progress for these kind of things for our city. So the lightning is very, the life was very important because our children come out, the change of season is coming and it gets darker. The children come out of school a little later. We come out of work later and there's no light, so it becomes a safety issue. Camino, our problem is that we have this garbage. At all places like Chavasura, in our first gods in October, we're going to start our cleaning areas, because we couldn't go out for the heat, but we're going to start with Daniel and Daniel's hours and we're going to see if we can get more the community so that we can help with the cleaning. So also another issue is a trash that's accumulating. We haven't been able to gather community or garter community to be able to do a cleaning for that because of heat. But myself and Danny orders will try to do that around, I'm hearing October, so to have that done. But if we have some support, that would be great. I think I have several photos. I think that's a great idea. will try to do that around, I'm hearing October, so to have that done but if we have some support that would be great. So there's a waste of water in Belflower and hollet, I believe. I try to see where it was coming from, but I couldn't see, but there is a lot of bush. Dry bush there, it doesn't let me see, but still there's a waste of water there. I would like to thank you for helping me, for thanking us for the information. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, the Russian? The Russian? Yeah, there we go. Yeah. I am in the script and I already read it here. Good morning to all. Good morning, everyone. My name is Rosio Mancilla. And I am the part of the group, Unidos por una delante. So I am part of the group, Unidos por unaado de Lanto, join together for Adelanto. So the reason for that, I'm here is because the calle donde yo vivo, está llena de oyos y en el tiempo de lluvia, se me hace imposible salir de la casa. So the reason I'm here is to request the street that I live in. It's full of holes. And when it rains, rain season comes, or winter season comes, it's impossible for me to get out of my house. Y pues me gustaría que la reglaura en verdad, porque ya viene el tiempo de lluvia, y pues no quiero pasar por lo mismo a través. Well, I am requesting for that to be considered as a repair, because rainy season will come, winter season will come, and I don't want to go through that struggle. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Thank you. Gracias. Voy a pasar tu carta a la city manager para que te puede llamar y puedes hablar más en donde vivias y todo eso, ok? Sí, gracias. Gracias. I just learned another of my pastor card along to the city manager so that he can reach out to her and see what area she'd be referring to. Brenda, do you have any money online? No, you're on it. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and close public comment here at 1146 and move on with our agenda. Items in a consent calendar consider routine in nature and non-controversial in the required no discussion by the council. They may be acted upon a one motion. Let's remember the council requests a separate discussion out of them. I move that we approve the consent calendar. I second. All in favor. Aye. Moving on to our, our, I'm the public utility authority consent calendar. Again, routine in nature and non-controversial. They require no further discussion with the council. And we reacted upon a one motion. Can I get a motion? On motion. Second. Second all in favor. I move in on a she was ready. I she was ready moving on to new business Award construction contract for Belflire Street rehabilitation a.k.a. Buckboard Ali project to grants corporation Richard come on down Good afternoon, Council Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, City Manager. Staff recommends that City Council approves an award of construction contract agreement with Vance Corporation, an amount of $544,100 and $3. To provide construction about Fowler Street Paving, authorizing a project construction contingency in a amount of 5% for the construction, authorizing city manager or designated to expand the contingency fund, if necessary, to complete the project and determine the project is categorically exempt from further environmental review in accordance with section 15301 of the state guidelines implementing the California Environmental Quality Act. Background Balfour Street between Air Expressway and Chamberland Way requires a grant and overlay to provide safe and efficient travel path for the residents. Plans and specifications were produced by the engineering department staff. Notice of inviting bids when out July 16, 2024. The city clerk's office received an open six bids on August 20, 2024 at 3pm, which are summarized in attachment A and analyze an attachment B. Bids were received and determined if all responsive end to the submittal requirements. Staff recommends a ward of contract for the base bid to the lowest responsive bidder vance corporation for $544,100 in three cents to complete the project with 5% contingency spending. Fiscal impact, there will be no impact to the general fund. This project will be paid using real-biltation funds, SB1, at the cost of $544,000, $100 in three cents. Any questions? Thank you, Richard. Councilor Mesa. You said none of this is coming out of the general fund. No, yeah, all funding will be coming out of the SBY. Okay, SBY I just want to clarify that. Balfour. I mean, this has been one of the major topics in the city Jesse, the next one I want to know how many streets we've already repaid compared to the last 30 years. So park streets, this administration is getting it done for everybody and not even using general fund money. So thank you to staff for bringing this to us and let's get it done. Thank you so much, Councilwoman, up there grow. I know, Councilwoman Janette. Well, I'm excited because I'm the one that called a book board alley. Hate to admit it, but it is true. You know, that's the original street for $3.95. And for years and years and years. And that was the main thoroughfare. It used to be a beautiful place. And now we're going to change it to wonderful, wonderful alley, beautiful alley. Yes. And we thank you so much. I have a question. Is this an overlay? Wonderful, wonderful alley, beautiful alley, yes. And we thank you so much. I have a question. Is this an overlay now or a complete job of uprooting the material that's in the ground now or is just an overlay? There's just gonna be a two inch gride in overlay. So they're gonna be griding off two inch and putting down our brides asphalt. The same material that's on Koala. Do you think that sufficient? I know trucks aren't to go up and down that road, so that shouldn't be a problem. That's sufficient. Right. Yeah, I know we were in that business. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Mayor Perchim. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. You literally, Rich, thank you for the presentation. Love the shirt. You answered my question about the rubberized asphalt. That's exactly what I was going to ask. And it's amazing. You actually educated me on exactly what it was when we went out and toured the Koala project. And since then, I have spoken with a lot of the residents in that area, and they notice a huge difference in the amount of noise when all that traffic is coming up and down it. So, hopefully we can, anytime we do roads that are around houses like that, we stick to that material and correct me if I'm wrong. Is that actually a little bit cheaper and cost than going to the other route? Yes, there's a percentage of because it is a recyclable asphalt mix, it is a price reduction, noise reduction, and it's definitely a reduction on the impact to the environment. So perfect. Thank you so far. Any residents that live in that area, you're probably going to hear your noise is going to reduce a little bit because of the material that staff is using. For the record, can you just let us know east and west, what streets, but it's gonna, but poor alley. Balfour is gonna be going with the paint. So go to center line of Chamberlain and it's gonna go all the way south to Erick's Pressway. Okay, Erick's Pressway to Chamberlain, awesome. and then lastly to Councilman Mez's point, yes you're absolutely right man, let's get these streets counted. It's a lot of residents you read on social media, you guys need to get all these streets paved, you guys need to get these streets paved. Well if we had millions of dollars in our general fund, we definitely would get a lot more of these streets paved, but we don't need to get the streets paved. What we need to do is we need to get a lot more of these streets paved. But we don't need to get the streets paved. What we need to do is we need to get out there to these different entities that can help us with funding and bringing resources that will provide us with the money to get these streets paved. So thank you SB1, thank you SBCTA for the measure eye money that's been coming in to help pave a lot of these roads that we got going on. Bless you, sir. I'm excited. Another main artery of our city that needed to be addressed is getting addressed. The one thing that I'm thinking to mine and extremely grateful, please, like, understand. I love the fact that we tapped into SB1 money and that this isn't affecting our general fund, but one of the things that I would like to try to explore, and I'm not sure if council, if you guys are okay with it, maybe just to stress out our finance director a little bit more and everything else like that, but I would really love to start putting some curves and gutters, right? Just because Alvalanto is a desert city or we're widely spread city, I would really love to and whatever areas that it is that we can. I'm not sure it was gonna take away easements. I'm not sure what it's going to take away easements. I'm not sure what the process is going to be, but if we can start incorporating some sidewalk projects, some curb and gutter projects, right? Because don't get me wrong, I love the fact that we're pavement roads. Our cars are grateful, our families are grateful, right? But I'm also thinking about the fact that our children are still walking in mud, right? And I'm not sure if we need to partner up with the Alolan to elementary school district and do something around the schools. I know we do say for our school around the school and we have those other type of stuff but you know and whatever areas that we can, right? Even even a little bit of a time, I know city manager, public works is doing the rehabilitation project with the sidewalks throughout the city and that's great and we had some major improvements. But you know, I would love to see what it is that we can do to explore that. Now the 5% contingency that was on this is this because of damages that's coming once they remove the asphalt, right? Or what's that 5% for? It's very standard. It's either 5% or 10%, we always add contingencies to construction projects because nothing's ever perfect. Right. There's been a Bartlett, giving an example, Bartlett the contractor was pulverizing so they have a big machine with a bunch of Will grinding wheels on it and there was an existing abandoned gas line that was in the ground that we had no idea about so he met he hit it and We had it where we're responsible on replacing the wheels that were broken on it So we always add a contingency on there because you just never know. I shoot for zero and so we I try to keep all change orders down as minimal as possible but you just you never know right like we said these roads have been paved for 30 plus years right I can't remember I've lived here since 92 and I can't remember one was the last road that was paved before you know our administration you know so you're right something may happen you know that that's not on the maps that is not you know taking care of So I just wanted to bring clarity to that 5% because you know we have some individuals out there that will we'll try to you know spread of false narrative of that 5% right. So I want to just make it very clear that it's for a budgeting aspect that is not included right. That 540, 14,100 and 3 cents is for the paving project right. Yes. When they remove what they remove, they don't know if they're gonna be a busted sewer line or they're gonna be a busted gas line underneath, right? So that 5% is for those potential additional costs, right? So just want to be clear to that. Great job, Rich and Man, you're crushing it, you're killing it. Thank you for all this amazing work that we have going on. And with that being said, I'm gonna go ahead. And we have additional questions. Councilor Nguyenette? Yes. On the corner of Krippen are Chamberlain Way and Belfar. When they repay that, they're still that big bump in hump right there at the stop sign. You know that what I'm talking about there when you stop. Is that going to go around that corner to take care of that also from the Belfarr correction of the road. Is that not included? I'm not sure where that hump is, but why could I go out and take a look and make sure that is included. It's a big dip. It's on the west side of Chamberlain. So it's technically outside of the area that you're referring to. Just around the corner. It's literally just so. Just around the corner. You make the left off of Chamberlain from 395. The stop sign is literally on the westbound sign going east on Chamberlain and Belflower. Right. And one other thing. It's because of the semi's. Okay. One other thing I would like to ask about since we're putting a new park there on Belflower is this new road going to impede or the park going to impede anything that constructions is going to come into our park or what we have to redo that road in front of the new park again after we do it once. Sometimes this happens. How is that going to affect the new park that we're going to be putting in there on Belfart? Well, we have the original design as for the existing two lanes that are there. Now, we've looked at some of the stuff outside of that. And I've spoken to city manager as far as, you know, some potential proposals in that area. And so for right now, the plan is to stick with existing plans. And then I'm having that conversation with the city manager to determine what additionally that may want to be implemented potentially for the park. It'd be ashamed to put that in right there where the park's don't have to dig it up to do more work for the park. Nothing will have to be dug up. Everything that we do, I pay very close attention to. Because they'll be curving it up each year. Yes. Thank you very much. Great job. Thank you. Madam President. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Great points on the gutters and the sidewalks of Somerror. I did city manager, I literally today, I forwarded you an email from SKAG speaking about the environment, community and climate related grants. There's four specific ones that I would like to just, you know, put out there for the record that maybe staff can please potentially look into. Number one is the inflation reduction at community change grants program. Healthy streets program is another one that's being spoken a lot about the environmental enhancement fund. And then the last one, Richard, maybe some that we can look at, there's a rubberized pavement grant program that they're offering right now. So those are four programs that we could potentially look into to maybe help us with what may are stated in regards to sidewalks and gutters. All right, with that being said, I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go to the common here at 12 o'clock. Thank you, Richard. Thank you. There's no one online, your honor. All right, gonna go ahead and close to the common here at 12 o'clock. Councilor Mesa. No, I'm good. Councilor Nathabar. I'm good. Can you do me a jnett? Would that be in said, looking for a motion to award construction contract for the Bell Flour Street Rehabilitation Project? I'm moving Mr. Mayor. Can we get a second? All in favor? Aye. Discussion item, illegal dumping fees. Community safety, is that a meeting city manager? Thank you Mayor Arreyes, City Council staff, and Mr. the public. At our last regular city council meeting, this item was asked to be put on the agenda for discussion. I believe that there's concerns by the council that the fees may be too low. I'm not sure. Nevertheless, we are on standby to take any questions you may have and address the council. Councilor Rosa, anything? Yeah, this is one of mine that I've been trying to get done. There's a street that I take, Holly. It's a dirt road straight to my house, to the where I work. And it's a great little street. It's about maybe a quarter mile, maybe more than that. That it's all dirt, right? And we've had had we've gone out there we fixed it you know we're not really in the business of upkeeping dirt roads out in the city but there was a bad water issue that happened there during the winter time so we did fix up the street and have it kind of cleaned up and now it's just dumped with trash and I've had to go add air and nails in my tires and it's just getting frustrated about everything we try to do to make it better in this place. Someone comes and dumps shit all over the place. It's not even nice stuff. It's shit. Okay, it's oil. It's all of that and I'm tired of it. And I know the residents are tired of it. So excuse me for my bad word, but we're tired of it. All right, so it's not like they dumped, it's oil, it's tired, it's nails, it's groceries, it's crap. Okay, and I just want, we have the cameras going up. That's phase one right now. What are these cameras gonna catch? So once we catch you I want the hardest penalties out there to stop this Because it's getting closer to the residence houses. It's not even like they're going out in like by the Mirage area It's right off-Cactus. It's right next to my house We've cleaned it up many times and it's just back again. So They're not getting their lessons. You know, I can have my neighbors put cameras turn them around backwards if we're going to do something and there's a real penalty for these guys. I want something that if the if the land is owned by by someone that if we go clean it, they're getting tax hard that if we're on their property fixing it, or they have to come fix it, or there's lean starting to be put onto their lands. Because they're not up keeping it or doing any growing on their land. So there's something that we should be able to do, and that's what I'm asking for this to be brought up to to Council for discussion, is because I'm sick and tired of it. These ladies go out there, just jump in, go out there, clean it, and then a week later it's back. And it's just like, it's tons. It's not even like a couple of papers. They're just dumping, dumping. So that's why I asked for this to be brought up to discussion. Awesome, councilwoman, that's a great question. Yeah, I agree with everything you just shared and it is true. There are many apartment communities within our city who have also shared their frustration with a lot of the dumping that's happening behind their communities. And we've all had this conversation before about there are areas within our city that are technically, they are county and we don't have a whole lot of opportunities to fix that situation. But I think that there are areas within our communities that we can do something about. I'm not sure how it works as far as so we get somebody on video and we're able to send them this ticket and they're not even from here because oftentimes what I've found to be true is that those who are dumping are not actually from Adelanto. These are people that are driving in from other cities, other areas, even other businesses outside of our city and they're dumping their trash here so I'm not sure how successful you know writing the ticket and sending it and, you know, actually collecting or what that process looks like and how successful that process actually is, but I'm sure that our city manager could share more about that. But I'm all for, you know, part of our city beautification program should most certainly include fines for dumping and finding different ways that we can do. So going what I was saying is if we made it a misdemeanor then the police would get involved so the police would be sending the tickets. So it's not so much the city taking care of it's more. We got it on record. We got the pictures. Here's the police department. This is a misdemeanor in our city. Now it's a fine coming from the police department. We can do. Yeah. OK. All right. Well, those are my questions. Council on what you met. Well, folks, it's time we're all proactive, right? How do we get stuff done? It's not one or two or three people. It's the residents. Start taking pictures out there. If you see it, don't get involved with the people. Take pictures, be sure you get the license plate, stuff like that, but don't get involved with them because it could be dangerous. You don't want to do that. And as soon as we become proactive, the words are going to go out. We need to be more aggressive with our code enforcement to go out there and give tickets. And it should start about $1,000 a piece. And when people have to start paying that kind of money, they're going to start watching each other and helping each other. And where I live, that's what's going on. I went to teach my neighbors, and I said, I'm like you, Angel, I went out there and every time we clean it up, something else, another sofa would be out there. And we let them know that not only do we have cameras, private cameras on the houses and whatever, but we're going to turn them in and they need to be part of the proactive program to keep our city clean This is your city our city and let's take good care of it and but the key is we all have to be involved We can't expect our three sheriffs to go around and be ticketing things. We need our code enforcement that money would come back to us We pay the sheriffs enough, which are very worthwhile. Believe me, we know that. They put their life on the line for us. But that money through code enforcement will come back to our city where we can do things and go out there and make our other parks more prettier and beautiful. All these other programs we need, We could sponsor kids for their uniforms, things like that for the football and baseball and soccer. We can do all kinds of things, but we have an opportunity to get that money. But also, every owner of every property needs to be on notice that's your responsibility to keep your vacant land clean. But it's up to us to make sure that we do our part. Thank you. That's where I was going with that joy. I think code enforcement should be handling the land. But we're not asking the sheriffs to go chase them down. If we have video pictures, we send that to the police. They handle it with their desk office. So it's not so much we're asking sheriffs to go patrolling for it. It's the photos going to them and they had to live through the desk and they got fines that way. I believe our code enforcement should be the ones that are getting with the land owners, where the dumping is handling and handing out their fines, we're not upkeeping their land. I would agree with you, but all of us have to be involved. This is our city. I can't expect the water people, the ladies there to go out there and do that. We have to be individually responsible. And if I see anybody, even with my walker, I will stop my car and I'll take pictures. And if I know who they are, I'll talk to them, but I don't get involved. You don't want to put yourself in the harm's way. Thank you. Mayor Potsun. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I agree with all of you. Councilor, you're right, Mr. Councilman Jeanette, you know, there's a saying, there was an old saying that says, snitches, yes, stitches. No, they it immediately. There's a lot that I want to say on this, but I'm going to try and keep it short and sweet. I do want to ask, I just want to go straight to the source, right? And city attorney, you know, I agree with Councilman Mazza. Whatever we can throw at them, I don't, I don't, they don't need a warning. They don't need to swap a spank on a, on a butt, a spank on a hand. The warning is the trash that's already out there in our community. That's the warning, right? So what's the, what is the highest penalty? What's the worst, what's the most we can do to somebody that we catch doing any type of illegal dumping. Six months in prison and a thousand dollar fine for each separate offense. With that being said, right, council, um, I'm one for, you know, people that are doing this are grown. They're adults, you know, my six year old is not out there throwing mattresses and couches, right? Your teenagers aren't out there throwing toilets and sinks in the desert. They're adults. There should be no warnings. You get, you don't get a chance. It doesn't, it doesn't start at 100 and then go up to 5 and then 7, 15 and a thousand. Six months, $1,000. I'm going to recommend that, right? Next thing I would like to say and before you go is it's really important, ladies and gentlemen, right, regardless of how we individually might feel about a measure or about what's really going to happen with that money or what are they really going to do? Are they going to go out and buy, you know, BMWs for everybody from Port White Neaming? No. When these measures come around and they're introduced to us that in black and white state, this funding or part of this funding is going to be used to attack a certain item like legal dumping. We have to trust in the process, right? And ladies and gentlemen, I'll go out there and say it. We might have had an island on the past where we couldn't trust our government officials and we couldn't trust our staff. But I'm pretty confident in saying that you can trust us and you see what's going on. Right? So when help is presented to us, let's take a chance on it and let's take it, right? We can't... You guys can be the answer to our legal dumping. The six of you in the audience right there, you guys aren't the answer. You guys can start. You guys can help. You guys can set the example. You guys can be a part of the movement but we cannot place the legal dumping that our city has right the issue that we have when it comes to legal dumping we cannot put that on your plate that's not your response it's not your responsibility it's everybody's responsibilities so please I'll say it again in the future when anything comes up when it comes to voting on a measure that's gonna help with the issues that we face, just make the right vote. Real quick, Mayor, before you go, I'm sorry. Go ahead, because I'm trying to gather. There's actually a city manager. If we can please get code enforcement out on code or public works on the southwest corner of Bartlett and Chamberlain. There's a pile of furniture right there that's been sitting there for a couple days. And then on the corner of Vintage and Koala, there's a couple mattresses that I saw there this morning when I was on the way to City Hall, please city manager. Corner of cactus and delicious. It's got some more. There's a wonderful app called Alonso app where you can go ahead and take photos and upload that and it goes directly to Baltimore Works. I'm torn, right? Because we had a great opportunity to do something about a couple months ago and the community didn't come out, right? So, and I say that because they allowed themselves to be misled with bad information. You know, they allowed the political gander to steer the fact that there is a dumping problem in our community and did not vote to support that. And here we are now, right? One of the things and I just went online, the County of Los Angeles has a clean LA program and under California Pino Code 374.3, it makes illegal dumping on public and private property punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 and also pursuant to section 117 555 of the California Health and Safety Code. Our person who dumps illegally is also punishable to up to six months in jail. Additionally in August of 2005 the county of Los Angeles adopted an ordinance that would allow the sheriff to seize the vehicle if any if it is used in any act of illegal dumping. I think we should take those strong and those severe measures right now the question is how are we going to get the money right? This is where we need to invest in ourselves and be proactive and not responsive Okay, and I'm just doing simple Simple math. I don't know what it's gonna cost. But let's say We invested a million dollars into camera structures Licensed plate readers and everything that we know in the areas where illegal dumping is happening, and we invested a million dollars into this project, right? If we do a $10,000 fine, 100 people caught illegal dumping, we make our money back. I hate to look at it that way, but that has to be a way that we're going to look at it. We have to be proactive and regards to, because the reality is this, ladies and gentlemen, I really don't believe it's our community. I don't think, maybe in the neighborhood stuff, they're being lazy and they're just dumping it on the corner, right? That's one thing But all this stuff in the middle of the desert all the stuff all the nails all the everything They were talking about it's these companies that are being hired to remodel homes as these companies are being hired To do these projects and they don't want to go to the dump and pay the fine So they just go out to the middle of the desert and they dump it in the desert. I can assure you 90% of those people do not live in the other lanto and they just come in, do a compliment, make a said, and then leave. Why are we worried about them? Right? One thing that we can do, and I'm pretty sure it's the city of Lancaster or the city of Palmdale that actually has an ordinance that the fine Get's put on the registration of the vehicle. Yep. Oh So when you got to go pay your registration The photos the dumping the stuff that you did in the area the DMV has access to that information And they say hey, yep your registration is $10,500 something all daughters. Pay your fine. It wasn't me. Well, here goes the photos and they can print it out and show if it wasn't you, then it was your cousin, it was your brother, it was your auntie, it was her brother's best friend's cousin who used your car to do that job and now you're paying for it. We have to get aggressive. We tried to do a measure to support this, it fell drastically. So let's create, again, we're the policymakers. Let's create the ordinance to make it severe. Let's take on the investments. And again, city manager and our manna and our finance director, we're probably going to stretch you out for a little bit. I know you guys are doing a phenomenal job trying to balance the city budget, but this is something that if we cannot find the grant funding for, if we cannot do those top of things, I am willing and I think our community would be okay if we were to do a workshop and if we were to go out and what other targeted areas, how can we partner with the county to get more cameras, to get more this, to get more that, and then go about it that way. Yeah, $10,000 is extreme. It is. But maybe people will stop. Yep. Right. Maybe we'll have a cleaner community. And taking their vehicle, you know what I mean? Taking their vehicles is now like, oh, dang. Now you're afraid? Well, you shouldn't have, you shouldn't have, you should have paid the $62 to go to the dump. Yep. another thing is married. Excuse me, I'm sorry. Another thing is if they don't pay the fine, we can put a lien on their property or their house. We'll gain that way. We don't want to do that, but we're sick and tired of this stuff. And we all have to do our job. As a city, you know what I mean? We've got a force, and this quote of force is going out there and cleaning up private property, right? Then guess what? We thought on the lien of the land. Yep. If we're going to be developing our community to the level and as fast as it is that we're doing it, then guess what? When these people want to go on Southern land, why do I got a $20,000 lien on my property from the city of Orlando? Because you weren't maintaining it. Right. No. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do anything that you're planning it. Right. Well, we have to get aggressive with this you guys. I'm sick and tired of of seeing these things, but again, it's going to and I'm going to speak on this on a future agenda item. The reality is this council as we're out there networking. We're doing these things and we're working with the proper agencies and partnerships. We're still going to have people, they're going to talk bad about us, they're going to call talk down on us, that are going to look down on us because they do not like the fact that the city of Walentos growing rapidly that we're changing our culture and they want us to be the ugly stepchild of the region and we're no longer that. Nope. We got to adapt with these times. We are building 20, 24 buildings, 20, 25 buildings. We are not having 1960 buildings. We are the new city of the future and we gotta adapt to the changes and cleaning up our stuff before all these buildings comes is what we need to do. So the hardest laws need to start now, well, while we're here in office, like I said, this is our time, we are gonna win. You can stop a, all you want. At the end of the day, we're gonna get what the residents voted as for is to make changes in this city. Roads, parks, cleanup. Those are the three major topics we were talking about. When we got elected, what we promised, so we didn't get that home run that way, we're gonna go another route to make sure our promises are kept. So if that means finding it and imprisoning people, it's going to happen. Maybe better off paying the fee to go to the dump. Just go pay the fees. Pay the fees. It's a dump, right? And just in great comments, you know, council and one thing that I do want to point out, something that I share with mayors, city managers this morning, there was an amazing article that came out literally a thing yesterday, that day before yesterday. We have to be because of this article, we have to be proactive. This is our warning, guys. This article is our good warning of, hey guys, whatever you're doing, keep doing it, you're doing a great job, but watch out because they're coming. Two high desert cities, two high desert cities made the list of America's fastest growing suburbs with homes still under $500,000 Two high desert cities. Can you guys get you with guess what cities all's where? We are out of land too. Adelante. Number one and Victorville. Number two So we are the fastest we are one of the fastest growing suburbs in America, not in December, in O'County, not in Estetia, California, not on the West Coast, in America. So that means things like this, these, these, you know, that's to our great leader and manager over there, City, City of Management, Mr city management just floors. This is just the warning guys That we have to be proactive when it comes to programs like this because we're gonna continue to grow in population Which means we're gonna continue to grow in in trash if we don't get it on the control See So you know, I think it's just time council, you know what I mean and sorry city manager I know that you, you know, you do a phenomenal job and looking at those things. But I think it's the council is there that either we, here's some of the things that we can get creative, because they have a very creative staff, right? Illegal dumping effects, it's community, Isoar, is there beautification grants out there? Right, decreasing property value, the cost taxpayers millions of dollars and cleanup costs, negatively impacts plants and wildlife, maybe we can get some funding from EPA, right, because they wanna save the fleas and, and you know, all the other things things like I think some mattresses probably affect their the way of living you know um pose the safety hazard of people especially children up here in a high desert the one thing I remember growing up as a child this is back in 93 94 when I used to go rattlesnake hunting with my dad in the desert Guess where we would go To the dump sites I'd go right up after past the Mirage maybe I don't know what the street is, but there is four infamous dump sites right there and guess what we will do My dad will say flip over the tires. I'm like me flip over the tires. What the heck? Right? But that's what we were checked is these dump sites. Right? So it most definitely is something to take consideration. But Saba, I know you're working on a bunch of grants and thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you for all the grants that you're working on. But we need to take advantage of it now and be able to to get proactive with this. You know, and and see what it is that we can do, right? City Manager, I have a couple of ideas, you know, getting creative and I'll share them with you afterwards. But we need to we, I have this is not a, this is not a, an ask like this is a need, right? This is not a want, this is a need. We're tired of it, we're tired and it's time that we really allow our community to know that these are the ways that we can support the efforts of everyone else, right? Of Al Alam Tun support the efforts of everyone else, right? Of of of of of Al Alanto, Needos and Danny and everyone else that's doing the full work of the weed abatement and the things like that in the community, you know, and things of that sort. So with that being said, I'm going to go ahead and open up public comment here at 1225. Okay. There's no one online here on it. No one. Okay. No one put it coming here. So we'll go ahead and just uh, did I close? Bring it back to council. Close put it coming here at 1225 councilman. Just like you said getting creative. I mean, all this trash could be affecting our Joshua trees. That's how sad it's getting. So we got to watch out for the Joshua trees. Council, I'm going up the groove. I'm good, thank you. Council, won't you net? And with all the plastic too, and the animals, and they're all there eating and stuff, I don't know. Mayor, if Brenda wanted to say something about these. After we. Not at this time, ma'am. OK. Mayor Progym? No, I just agree with council. No more smacks on the hands. Let's give them the highest and hardest penalty that they can get. And I would just like to remind everybody, as I was reminded just a little bit ago, that the community cleanup day is coming up. It's October 19th, 2024, over here at the stadium. And there's your chance to potentially start getting ahold of all these bulky items and going over there and let Burnt Tech take care of them. And also just a reminder again, and I'm sure everybody knows we will continue to remind you guys, Burnt Tech does offer bulky item pickup services. I believe it's like two or three a year five, right? So get with Burtek. I know I've done it before and they are really good at scheduling it with in days, right? It won't sit out for a week, two weeks, three weeks. So if you need any of that information, please reach out to any of council of the council members or any of staff over at City Hall. So I think it was discussion item I will say one of the takeaways if we could work on an aggressive ordinance and let's do a workshop. I would love to get a workshop going as quick as fun. See this is a this is a committee you know I mean that that I would be a part of. Well, let's do a workshop and get it going. So there is no, oh, there's no dig. It was the fact. There's no evidence removed from the consent calendar. Councillor Mason, do you want to add on future agenda? Yes. Generalman came in today talking about CDBG money, right? I'd like to do an audit because I see some of the people that were giving money to you saying they're going to have food giveaways and then nothing happens. I don't want to say names right now, but I really do want to do an audit now. He comes in saying he's helping our community. I don't know him, you guys know him. I don't trust anybody. Where's the sign in from our residents? Where's the addresses that shows there's out of line? So before we start giving out money, I think we need to do an audit on these organizations to see if our residents are getting any kind of credit from them. So I would like us to bring that to us and get an audit on that. Do I have a second on that? Here's the closing CBD funding. And before we vote on it, right? Because it's county resources. This is one of the issues that a former council member also had as well when it came to the audit process. It's not coming from the city. So the city cannot do the one that does the audit. As long as they submit the paperwork to the county of San Bernardino, then they're the ones that authorize the money. They authorize the money, but they don't authorize how much. But they don't have an audit. You guys authorize how much. Right. So we can change it to $1 until they want to bring in their paperwork and show it what they want to do. The gentleman that was here earlier, he did receive CDVG funds. We'll bring in their contracts to you guys. You guys already gave them money. Again, San Bernardino County are the ones that would have to audit it. Well, we can give them $1. And if they want to up their $1, then they can bring their paperwork on a free audit from them now. Can we do that? Because then it would have to check with CDBG. I don't think so, of the past two aspects. So the city has the ability to decide. So let's say 10 organizations. So the city gets the CDBG funding. And then the city determines who gets that money. And so if 10 organizations request the money, the city has the right to say one person gets it all, they have the decision making ability to decide who and how much of that funding. So if there's $100,000 and there's 10 organizations they can give each equally or they can actually make the decision we're only going to fund three out of these 10 because of x, y and z and actually we're giving all of it to one and nothing to the other. So although we cannot determine the total amount of the cdbg funding we can determine who gets that and it does not in the past at alanto has typically just taken the money and divided it amongst the people who qualified for it, but I too agree that we should explore looking at, you know, how we divvy up this money and if we want to make any of those changes. So that again, starting there, that falls on like we're going to say is the guidelines of CBDG, right? Because this is one of the big, I'm't know, I get what it is that we're saying, but this is one of those, we have to be in the policymakers, right? If the county's policy is, you just have to submit this, this, this, and this? That's on the county, right? We cannot overstep in regards to what CBDG's funding is, right? Like, for example, I'll say, we'll use last year's one. We denied Leslie, Leslie CPR, right? We denied them because they weren't doing anything here in Avalanto, they're based out of Esparia, and what resources are you providing to the city of Avalanto, right? We're able to deny someone because of those type of things. What I would say that we should do is, and we can't even ask them for the paperwork, right? Because I think this is a conversation we've already gone over on two different occasions when it came to see me need you funding. How is it that the city can get more control of making sure that these services are being had here in the city of Alonso, right? And it could be just a normal, hey, show a presentation. It isn't have to be anything on the agenda. Just come and just represent yourself and what you're doing in the city. So we know exactly who you are, exactly what you're doing and exactly who you're serving in our city. Yeah, and I know you're going with it and I'm with you 100% right? And that's why to me It's it's you guys have always heard me say it and I will continue to say when it comes to receiving money Your butt better being one of these seats. Yep, right? You're but because I have questions When was the last time what was the last event you did? What can you show us? You know some of the residents that you helped right? What's the location that you're doing your food drive or your utility bill assistance drive? Where's that location out of, right? If they can answer those questions and they can show us, then it makes us feel a little bit better. But if your butt's not in the sea and you expect us to be okay with handing you $9,800, right? And you can't answer, you can't show us what you're doing for our residents. I'm with you. One dollar. Talk or remember. Until you show up. Right? And that's why I'm pretty sure it's not the last time we're going to CCJ because he kind of got into that a little bit with this last one where he didn't show up. And again, I'll say this on the record. Any resident, any organization, any nonprofit, anything, anybody that is asking for money or wanting to receive some sort of assistance funding wise from the city when it comes to the day where the decisions being made show up. Because if you're not showing up, then that's saying something right there. Todd, question. Yes. So, and this is to kind of go and support what Councilmember Macy is asking for. So, like, let's say we're going to award CBDG funding on the first meeting of October, which is going to be, let's say October 9th, right? Would we be able as a city to have every recipient of the CBDG funding, do a presentation, the council meeting of, and have them present to the council before they get awarded any of the money. So the CDBG process is a public hearing. Anybody is allowed to talk, and it's noticed in that regard. If the council wanted to say, hey, if you want money, you should tell us why. That would be totally acceptable and permissible. Should we make it a formal requirement? I wouldn't do that, but you can stress to everybody. I think like the Mayor of Pro Tem said, if you want money, you show up. Right, so having them be a presentation, that is a way that we're able to justify how much they should get. We can't make it required. Yeah, we don't have to say you need to show up, but hey, we strongly, we strongly, strongly encourage and suggest you show up to talk to us a little bit about your council wants a presentation on what it is that you did last year to this year for their community and I think the presentation aspect of it doesn't make it a requirement but if we have six people that applied for a CVS fund and divided up right yeah yeah and what I mean and a presentation I think could potentially be that and if we give them a buck that protects us from saying we did give you money. Yeah. We gave you a dollar. Yeah. So I got a second on that. Yeah. Thank you, sir. On a favor. Hi. Second thing is we talked about it a little bit today. I had a resident. I was stressing her. Hey, use the app. Use the app. So I just want to get an audit on the app. How many people are actually putting in? How many receipts we've closed? That it's being used. So do I keep pushing the app? Is it working? Is it being used? Because I don't want to tell people you use the app and there's 500 requests in there and nothing's being done. So I just want to get the numbers out. Can I get a second on that? Yep. All in favor. And that's all I got. Council another group. So maybe a discussion item I'd like to. So with the cost of inflation and everything that's happening and I know this is going to get me trouble. But I there are I'd love to be able to have a discussion as to currently our city does not allow residents to have chickens. I don't know. I thought it says that we can only indesignated areas where they're allowed. to currently our city does not allow residents to have chickens. I don't know. I thought it says that we can only in designated areas where they're allowed. They have to be zoned for it. So, right. So, I think with the cost of everything, there are many residents who have shared their desire to have even a smaller number of chickens. But for many reasons on both sides I can see why we you know the policy is the policy. But I would like to have a conversation about what our policy is and if there might be any need to revise anything in regards to our current times that we live in. I have a feeling newly is going to start giving eggs And I'm no I just want to be clear. Are we talking chickens or farm animals altogether? No, I am specifically talking about chickens So we make an amendment to whatever I'm only technometrics no cows no Boy if I want to go for goat mo. I don't know. I don't know you're Gotta get on the council, you're gonna talk to somebody. But I wanna, the conversation is really just, there are areas in our city that do not allow for residents and if they are trying to get a chicken or two, they cannot and so their only option obviously is, well, they can't or they can break the rules. And so just to have a conversation about that. Off second that. Thank you. And that was all the favor. It was quick about chickens. No. May I, may I get some more clarity please? Sure. Where livestock, what is our policy on livestock in our in our zoning zoning in our zoning? We have Mr. Sanders on the line I believe he can answer that. Before we go to Mr. Sanders so Councilman Eftroger you're are you referring to having chickens versus roosters in for example the areas that we live in and a in a track home environment versus Areas that are a little more out in the open. There's very few of those areas within the city Most of the areas are track homes and I think the complaints come from the roosters Growing at foreign shelter the morning by the neighborhood. Yes, correct. So check-ins roosters So I'm not a big farming individual. So the conversation that was brought up to me by several people were that they really wanted to have eggs. And so they, but they cannot, specifically for that reason. So I understand why the policy is there now. But I also understand that there are challenges right now for many families and people. And so I just want to have a conversation so I can look at both sides of this because I'm only hearing the one with the noise, right? But I'm also hearing some valid points on why if somebody wanted to have I don't know which again or two are are rooster. I don't know how this all works Yeah, but you need a rooster. Yeah, okay a rooster. So yeah, people are wanting to and that they at Part of that conversation is you know, do you have the Land for it, you know because again. Yeah, you're're right. You probably can't do that in an apartment complex. But again, that's what the conversation is for. That's what the discussion is for, to have the discussion. Because there are places that might be appropriate that are not in that zoning area currently. And maybe there could be something to that effect or something, again, it's based on how the conversation goes. I wouldn't encourage it in apartments but if you have X amount of land and you happen to want to be able to do that and there's a little area for you to do that I again aside from the noise being the biggest issue I I would like to hear what other people think about it. So you're asking to bring this back because the discussion. As a discussion. Yes. Yes. So many folks about it. So you're asking to bring this back because the discussion I have in mind. Yes, so many folks got it. Okay, thank you very much. All in favor? I. I. I. I talk about roosters. It's great. Councilwoman. Anything else? Councilwoman? No. No. Councilman Jeanette. Can't we all need a rooster to have eggs? So that takes care of that. I have neighbors, I'm on several acres, and every morning the roosters go at it and so forth and plus say they're very aggressive against the chickens. I mean the females, whatever you want to call them. And but you don't need a rooster to have eggs. So if it's for eggs, that's a good thing to know. But they produce a lot of feathers and things like that that if people have asthma and things like that and it flies in the air air that wouldn't be good But that's something to think about anyway That's my thought on that Yeah, onto the general items. Yeah I Would like to see those who are interested in the committees that we talked about earlier. If we can get together, we got two weeks. We certainly can have a meeting here with the permission of the city manager to have a committee meeting to come in here and use this facility. And then we will have a presentation on our next meeting on each of those items that we brought up. Are you willing to do that, ladies and men? Good, because I know they want to be part of it. Okay, so what committees? The ones for the no fees for the animals to be neutered in spade. We're going to be talking about that and about the veterans and all the other the other two things and we'll be discussing it with the same people if you're interested and better we'd like to have that between the next two weeks and so that we'll have a presentation to give and know that we mean business. We're not just talking about it. We're going to do something about it. So we're going my question is, since this isn't an official city committee like ad hoc, could the meeting be had here in Chambers? Why not? I see one to give us the room upstairs. I believe the council member can ask for the space if she wants to have a meeting here. There can only be two council members at said meeting. But it's not an official. My question is because it's not an official ad hoc that we voted on as a council. Is this just a George and that? Again, not councilwoman because it's not an official city one. Right. So how old would that fall under? Todd, can you help us out a little? Yeah, no. People with the council's permission, the city's permission, if you want to let community groups where their council members are on them or not, use city facilities. That is okay, as long as even handed in approach obviously. So. Thank you. Thank you, obviously. So. Thank you. Thank you, Todd. Awesome. I'll second that. My favorite. Hi. Anything else comes to mind? Ladies, give me a call. Please text me and I'll get back to you and we'll get this meeting going by the way. Thank you. Anybody else is interested? No, nothing at this time is right. I have one that's a little... Not this heartening, but just a reality. You guys know where I stand with fireworks, right? Um, and all that good stuff. But I was a little troubled that last week at the city of Victor Vell's city council meeting, um, they had a pointed discussion in regards to the fires that were going on on 4th of July. And their fire chief gave a report, City Manager, I would ask if you and staff can watch that portion of discussion in regards to what was being said. But one specific council member, and for my understanding, this is not the first time that she has taken jobs at us off of the Dias Councilman, Deborah Jones, specifically said that we are affecting their public safety and I'm misquoting it, right? That their fire department was not able to provide resources to their community because they were dispatched taking care of the 10 fires that happened in the novel until. And that it and that we're a problem because we are contrary to their standards of where they stand when it comes to fireworks because fireworks is illegal in Victorville and that work of you, work of confusing their community because we allow the fireworks in our Volanto and that it was just a very negative presentation that she gave blaming the city of our Volanto because of where it is that we stand with fireworks. It bothered me because our fire captain stood before us and said that we took care of our own fires, that there wasn't other resources that were deployed to come and address the fires that happened on Alhantol. I think the biggest part that bothered me was that she specifically alienated our community when it came to fires when Apple Valley had a lot of fires when Victorville had fires when it's Sparrow had fires when I incorporated area of San Bernardino County had fires. But because we're the ones that allow safe and safe fireworks, and we allow the celebration of our country's birthday and the fireworks that not even the state of California is trying to enforce on shooting down and doing anything with that, right? On how it is that she specifically targeted our community as being a problem to why we had so many fires and that we were affecting the well-being of their community because what if someone would have died because they were busy putting out a fire in the Lanto and their services weren't available in Victorville. It bothered me enough to go on record publicly and address it in this manner. Now we'll say thank you to City Manager Keith Mitzler for his response in regards to what was being said and what was being had because he did it very elegantly and did a great job in his response of what it is that they're trying to accomplish in regards to that. So I will just say council be ready, right? I'm pretty sure that the City Manager is going to probably start getting some political pressure from other areas in regards to where we stand with fireworks and the celebration of the fireworks and things of that sort. But city manager, can we have our fire chief come in please and give us a detailed report of what happened with those fires again because the blame game was just not okay. Right. I'll second that, but I also wanna make a statement that you said what you said. If it's illegal in your city and they're still going off in your city, why don't you clean up your backyard first, right? So let's focus on your city having it being illegal with $1,000 fines posted everywhere and how much did you collect? Because there was a lot of fireworks going off in York City in Victoriaville and I loved it. And you know, it was a beautiful sight when you see the overviews of the airplanes and all the fire was going on. I love that. Yes, there was a couple fires. You know, so again, going to that, I would like to know where the areas were that caught fire and maybe put a fine on the on the landowner who didn't keep his brush down. You know, so we for having the firework services going out there. So there's another way we can look at it as well. Yeah, I want to add to that if I may please first off mayor. Thank you for thank you for standing up for our city. As I know you always do, you know, you don't you you do a great job at not involving yourself unless you feel there's a need to and unless you feel that our City, our council, our staff, our city managers being attacked. I will say I watched it myself, you know, hats off. I can't say enough about city manager Keith Messler. Amazing man, amazing leader. You know, I Know anytime that that gentleman opens his mouth, he's just going to speak truth, honesty, and greatness, right? It's actually a pleasure and honor to have him leading our neighboring city, you know, over there in Victorville. It's the blame game, you know, it's the blame. When things go wrong in your city or when things go wrong in your household, you immediately start to try and blame, you know, and it's disheartening and it's disappointing to hear that counsel person make those statements because you don't know that, right? That would be like me saying, and I'm just saying this, right? This is not an act. That would be like me saying, hey, we're having homeless problems because of the homeless issues that you guys got going on, Victorville, right? It's not, it's not, it's not, it's, it's not right of me and it's not fair of me to say that because we don't actually know that. Can we assume that? 100%. Can we think that? I, I, mayor. Can we think that? I don't care. I didn't think I did. No. You know, but that's a kind of a low blow. You know, if you want to attack an issue that you think is affecting your city, attack it from the top. Don't try and attack. Don't try and comfort us because if you come for us, then we're going to respond, right? Talk to Cal Fire. Talk to the state of California, go attack the California's firework law past in 1938. Maybe you should start there instead of starting from Adelaumta because I could promise you this. If we don't allow fireworks no more, which we're not going to have, that's not going to happen. But if we go down that route, it's pretty easy to drive down to Hill and go get some fireworks. It's pretty easy to go drive to Prump and get some fireworks. It's pretty easy to go to Tijuana for a weekend and bring back some fights. It's pretty easy still to get fireworks. Either Lantel is not the problem. Right? So Councilman Mames, I thank you for your comments. Start with cleaning up your own backyard. If you want to start addressing the firework thing that we've got going on in a high desert, start with the California fireworks law passed in 1938. If anything, they should thank us that we allow their residents to come to our long-term and pop off their illegal fireworks. You know, instead of over here blaming us that we're the cause of their issues, that is not okay, right? Just because we have a different stance in regards to it, don't get me wrong. We almost lost our simple and hard one year because the fireworks scared her half the death and she ran away, but then she came back home. I found her coming back home, right? I understand our veterans and the PTSD for those who served in combat. Like I get all of those things, right? And I would love to tighten up on the time frame. And I've been stressing this council like let's make it like one week three four days before, you know, or five days before Fourth of July and you know, or one week prior to Fourth of July, so that people can at least plan accordingly on something to do with their pets at this end of the third, but I don't know, man, it just really bothers me on how she deliberately blamed our community, right? And I'm not okay with that. So, can I get a second on that please? All in favor, third? So, noted. Um, I'd be here. Oh, can we do a workshop for sure on the legal dumping? I'll join you on that, Mayor. All in favor. I would actually add mayor if you don't mind. Can we get back info on I know in the last couple of months we've discussed having several workshops. Maybe we can bring out a list of workshops that we wanna get done, yes sir. Okay. And that's it for me. Oh, city manager, I did ask for that not a proclamation, but that city thing that we do for that nonprofit for the prime minister coming out if we get them to dinner for the next time. Second. All in favor? All right. That being said. Virginia, we love you. Oh yeah, Virginia. We miss you. Branded in a phenomenal job, but Jesse's trying to drive her crazy. So we need you back here. Please come back. Please. She's starting to drive her crazy. So we need you back here. Please come back, please. Would that be instead our next regular meeting for the City Council be held? September 25th, 2024 at 11 a.m., our town out is 12.53. And thank you to everyone who was in attendance. All the same faces that were here at night, are here, plus a couple of more. So all in favor? All right.