you you you you you Good evening, folks. It is October 19, 2024 or 6 p.m. We'll call the EPC meeting to order. Roll call. Quan Lee is here. Patty Kelly is here. Alva Vigoma is here. And we have a member justina and Brad Roms had not available at this time But we do have a quorum so we'll continue We join me with the flag suit Okay. At this time, we'll have some public comments. We have a visitor from Red Cross Ryan Chan, a disaster program manager. If you want to step up and share with us, we'll ask some questions after you're done. Hi, thank you so much for having me today. My name is Ryan. I'm the disaster program manager for the Metro Southeast Los Angeles area. So I cover all the red cross disaster preparedness response and recovery activity in the areas, including la Habro Heights. So today I have some information and program that want to share with all of you that's available for the city and the residents here. In the packets, I'm not sure if you have one, but the first page is our disaster preparedness program that we have from Peeper Pajro, TG to second grade, we teach little kids about how to prepare for disaster. Oh, yes. Sorry about that. We have our disaster preparedness program from kindergarten to second grade for the Prepare page. We also have our be recross ready presentation that's for adults and older Adults. We also have their hands only CPO compression only CPO demonstration that can be complementary to our B-RACCOS-ready presentations. So those programs can be available for any school recreation centers or any organization that you might be belonged to and we can schedule those presentations for you and provide such preparedness information on that. And then the second page we have is our sound alarm program. This is a free, smoke alarm installation program that we have available for everyone and anyone. There's no requirement to be pressed appointment with us. This event can be done with individual household or can be event collaboration with the city. And what we do is that we'll go to the individual household home and we'll make sure that they have working smoke detectors. If they don't, or if they have the older version ones, we do install them for free. We don't do cover monocytes, but we do do 10 years of the DM smoke online. And during the appointment, we're also going to provide them with home fi safety educations and making sure that they know how to escape from their home, have a time with the family, wanting to notice that if you know anyone that has death or horror hearing, we also have big, bad, strict alarm available. It is a alarm that triggered by the normal smoke alarm and then have a mechanism that shake the bag or the pillow of the present sleeping so that they can wake up in a time of disaster. And then the next thing. Excuse me. So in this program, individuals would call you up and make an appointment at their own house. Yes. And you would come out. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm just to confirm, you know, it says free installation, so no cost to the residents, so especially for our seniors that are mobile, this would be an ideal program to work with the American Red Cross to get yourself protected in that way. Thank you. The next flyer is a wildfire preparedness program. I do know that this area is very prone to wildfires. So this can be a complimentary program to the Soundealarm program. The difference is that the Soundealarm is about homefire, and the wildfire program is about how to escape routes if the city is using genesis as a evacuation program. Then we can help the city to do a profile like the resident on how to sign up for your alert system and things like that. It's not so much of a presentation program. We actually go out to the community. We can't face. We get pretty scheduled appointments so we can do those information for the resident. So both wildfire and homefire. This is consistent with what we as public safety emergency preparedness committee has been working on with our Firewise USA certification program and we did incorporate Genesee program so there is a nap that you can download LeHabra Heights is broken up into five different zones and this is a pretty parallel with what we're doing so just an enhancement for more information so thank you for that you can continue. Thank you. And the next one with what we're doing so just an enhancement for more information. So thank you for that You can continue. Thank you And the next one is what we call the Disaster Action team. I'm not sure if this area is prone to like wind damage or fire damage So we do have our 24 hour respond team that's available for any resident that's affected by disaster In example, you've let's it as a home fire and the resident need help with not having a place to go to or anything like that. They can call our 800 number, which is on the flyer and our dispatch will send out our disaster action team to go provide assistance to the residents. There's only three requirements. One is that we have to meet the family in person and assess the damage at the home. Second is that they have to have a proof of address that they can confirm for us that they live there. And the third is that we only, because breakfast is a short term, emergency assistance agency, we will only be able to provide assistance if they are within the 14 days of incident dates. So those are the three major requirements, but we respond to home fire, a permanent fire, I know that you don't have a permanent fire or vehicle into homes, wing, a trip branch into homes, anything that might displace the family because of disaster. And linking this flyer to the next one is that we also have a rechouse phone to opportunity available for the residents, so one is that we also have a red cross phone to opportunity available for the residents. So not only that we respond to disaster but you can also help us by being part of our disaster action team and respond to your own neighbourhood. The chart that you see on the third information, those are all the different red cross disaster positions available for anyone to volunteer for. You don't need to be any background or any specific experience that you have. RedCost will provide online training and on the job training for you. And this position is actually deployable both locally and nationally. So once you train and become a RedCost volunteer, such as for sheltering or feeding, you can actually participate or in operations here within the city or within the county but also deployed right right now to Florida to help with the hurricane, Milton and Hally. So these are other opportunities available if anyone is interested in participating. So my understanding on volunteering for disasters, I know just listening to some of the requests that came in from Red Cross was any volunteers that could go to North Carolina and work in emergency shelters. So those things are available for those residents that are able to and maybe have a special set of skills that you like to share or volunteer your services to enhance what Red Cross is doing and you know they're the boots on the ground right now for North Carolina. I mean for the folks that are in the rural areas like our community once the disaster hits it's going to be hard to reach some of those areas and it takes you know other than government resources that could really contribute to the recovery aspect of the disaster and damage that may be resolved. So thank you. More questions? Just one thing to emphasis, right, the training that you all got received from Red Cross. You now, when you become a Red Cross volunteer, you become a Red Cross trained disaster responders. So you can help your own community to respond to disaster within La Haberai as well. So if this is something happening to La Haberai, you already recost train. You will be helping your own community opening the shelter or doing different disaster response needed. Thank you. And then Mr. Chan can be reached at by his email, RyanRYAN. dot chan2 at redcross.org. Or you can go into www.redcross.org.l.a slash l.a. For more information, he did bring some packets for those residents that are listening. We have packets available. We'll leave that in the city. And then one thing nice about the ready set go packs, it is a waterproof, you know, vinyl package, but it also has a checklist of the things that you should have prepared for Ready-Set GO. And it's an English, Spanish, Korean, Chinese, and Vietnamese in the back. So it covers most of the languages. And it's something to have ready as part of our ready set go as an emergency preparedness program that we're implementing here at the Loughbrites. Any questions? Ryan, what could you suggest you could like do a day teach in for something that in our community since we have our five different zones already. What could you come in with Red Cross volunteers and certify us? So we have CPR for training available if that's off interest and we also when we want to all residents become a records volunteer we can actually have a group training on shoulder training so that we can train the people that have already become a Reconcerned to as a group to know how to open a shelter, how to operate a shelter. Those are some of the training that we can provide as a group for the residents. Any other questions? And thank you for your time. Thank you so much. Thanks for being here. Appreciate it. And then we have Cristabel Garcia. Yes, hello, good afternoon. I am very interested in being a part of this. I have heard about this through some neighbors and I'm very interested in helping out any way as possible that I can do with my power and my time. Is there anything that you can give me like a rundown on information so that I can be a part of this group or to volunteer or to just be a leader on my zone? First step is that a lot of the information is available for you on our website lahabras city dot org Emergency preparedness committee. We are looking for leaders for our zones or small pods We call them reaching out to maybe 10 to 20 families within your area if you can organize and get them together and maybe invite them to a meeting Mr John Dominguez will probably share a little bit about the checklist of information that you will need to share and then attending regular meetings. That's information. It's key because a lot of things are moving. We're now coming up to our annual filing to get recertified by November 15th. So I'll share that with you later. But just being part tomorrow Saturday Saturday, we have, you know, the neighborhood cleanup, we're gonna be walking up and down, Hussin, the road again, and picking up debris. That could be, you know, a fuel source in the event there's a wildfire or any other debris that could cause additional, you know, danger or injuries to people. So, you know, we need volunteers and thank you for offering to help and, you know, just reach out to any of us. If you have any questions or far-wise USA packet that you can start educating yourself as to what you can do, what your specialties. And I know by attending your Canada forum, you talked about your desire to protect large animals. So that is something we do need someone to concordinate that with someone who's already, you know, kind of taken the animals. So that is something we do need someone who can coordinate that with someone who's already kind of taken the lead so that could be another aspect that you can be a part of. So there's a lot of things you can do and the city's open to it. We need a lot of volunteers. What zone are you in? I am, I don't fully know the zone, but I know that I'm on West Road in Solahar. Ah, zone one. Zone one? on West Road and Solihar. A-Zone 1. Zone 1? The West Road Leader for Zone 1. We do, we need some. We do? Okay. Perfect. Yes. We do. Yeah. Yeah, after the meeting, if you two can exchange information, maybe you can provide some information. Member Patricia will assist you that. Okay. Sorry, I do have another question. I think it is about the CERT training. Will you guys have that sometime soon? Because I have seen on the website that there will be one near servitos and RTC. We are not going to have one with the city specifically. We were trying to coordinate with La Marada or some of those cities that were also trying to schedule their training. Those did not materialize. Actually, there was a youth training in La Marada last week. More for high schoolers of that age. We were not able to secure anything for adults. So right now, whatever is available on the Los Angeles County Fire Department website are the courses and we can provide that information out for our folks to take a look at. Okay. I do believe city of La Habra will be having once, you can contact them. Okay. They should have one by the end of this year. It should be any, like within a month, is what my understanding is, because they were recruiting heavily during the concerts in the park to get that organized for themselves. So you can partake in any sort of programs. It's been coming a certified emergency response team member and it's a great program and I think, you know, people like you that step up the younger generation would definitely add value to what we're trying to do. Thank you Thank you so much for your time. Oh one more thing for sir if If you are interested I would definitely value any kind of help in assistance in Couple things one sharing some ideas of how to organize the teams, as well as, I guess, feet on the ground for outreach to get some folks out there, especially on some of these events that we've participated in. Like a couple of weeks we're at the community yard sale, trying to figure out how to, one, get the word out, and then secondly, in those type of forums, we're able to kind of spread out and reach out and talk to folks to let them know we're here, and we're trying to get ourselves organized. So, if you're a sip, I'll mean, you know, I think there's a volunteer list that we've written collecting, if you just provide that information, we'll get you in grade. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. John DeBinguez. Good afternoon. Just have a quick update where I'm at as far as the efforts of trying to get the neighbors involved. Now, before I forget, Mr. Villagomis, wouldn't you want to have her crystal bell's name on your list for the search? Interested people? Yes. Yeah, so. Yes. Mr. Bell. As far as the flyers that I've been passing out, it's kind of hard because there's too many gates, too many dogs, and I can't get through to the actual residents. So I've decided to kind of promote it on Facebook and next door to try that route. For example, in communicating with Ristbelle through Facebook, I was able to get her email and I sent her the flyer of the actual, the flyer that Patty has been helping Patty with. So she's got that. And so I think that's what I'm going to do. It's not so much about walking. There's too many gates. Can't get past them. And plus, go ahead. And real quick, are we able to disperse that information via guac-talk at all. Through constant contact with some information maybe that could be a vehicle that will touch more families rather than individual boots on the ground. Thank you. I think if it's going to be guac-talked then I guess that it would have to be a link to a PDF so they can actually okay. So I let's see. In that flyer, there's a mention of that info at LHACity.org for folks to get a whole of city and to inquire further to reach the PC. So far, it seems like it's sometimes working. I did have a friend who going back to 20th of last month sent an email and they didn't get through. So that one was lost. There was another email they did get through. So at this point it's a 50-50. That's not the only two I know. So I'm not sure how reliable that info at LHA city that is always going to be. That's why I was going to hope that we promote a Gmail account that's a bit more reliable and more direct to the EPC instead of being relayed through another person back to the EPC? Something to you members to consider? You know what? That's we should do that. We've had so little communication directly from the really excellent articles that have been written about the individuals and also the EPC, what we're doing and what we're hoping to encourage in the community. We've had, I've never had a phone call. Al, you've never had a phone call from that article, so have you? I've had maybe three phone calls. From the article? From the general communication that we've sent out, but we've been doing this since the before summer, and after all that, I think. For the public, I think you're right. More direct communication is what we need. If somebody's reaching out to us, that's the enthusiastic, unusual person we need them. So I agree with you. Okay, it was something you need to consider. The other thing, too, I want to make sure we stay on the same page with FireWise and EPC trying to cooperate with each other. I think we've had some success so far. And I think we can keep going with that. I know a couple of you are interested in joining the FireWise. FireWise. I'm different, yes. Yes. Firewise are watch different yes, yes And so yeah, so there's there's a communication going on in cooperation. Let's keep that up Real quick, maybe you can organize a Separate just kind of informal meeting to bring the two teams together Maybe it could be at the next you know EPC meeting followingPC meeting, just to introduce and try to put together an agenda as to what we want to accomplish as bringing the two bodies together. Because again, information is key and I do believe far watch with their assets and their tools of their, you of their shortwave radio communication devices as much more effective. And then that could be dispersed to zone leaders. At least we can get information out to the individual zones. We can get touch more lives that way. Yeah, definitely. I have been nagging the fire watch members or the main ones that I know of to get a barbecue going. I mean, if we got food involved, more people will be interested. So, yes, we're trying to get something going to get to know each other. This shouldn't be happening during the emergency or after the emergency. Oh, in the flower, we also talk the flower that we're putting out to the different zones Let's see. Oh, in the flower, we also talk the flower that we're putting out to the different zones and trying to get neighborhood team leaders. We talk about maybe possibly getting first aid training. And that's what I kind of wanted to see if Ryan, Mr. Ryan, Chan here, I wanted to see if there's how much is the cost. I'm sure people are going to be interested to see how much they're going to have to pay to get the first day training. Mr. Chan also mentioned that there's a free basic CPR available, but the basic first day training, I know there's a cost involved and I just wanted to clarify as far as how much that would be. Let's see what else. I think that's basically it. I'll keep going with the trying to pass out the flyers as much as I can. Do you want to remind the folks of the cleanup on Saturday? The cleanup on Saturday. The cleanup on Saturday, that's starting at 6.45 a.m. at City Hall. We'll be meeting at City Hall to walk Hussey in the road about half, hopefully three quarters of us in the road if we get lucky to pick up trash. And last night it went really well. I think this time around, I think I'm getting about three more people joining in and there might be some additional beyond that. So we'll see how it goes. But the more the better, this plenty to do, this enough road for everybody. That's, oh, the other thing too is that we need, I need to emphasize that. When I am talking to the folks about the zones and trying to get a local neighborhood going, I'll also emphasize, what is it that they need? I do have a two-page flyer that I put together of the basic equipment just for the water itself, the 55 gallon drum of water and the basic The pump and the chemicals to preserve the water The wrench to open it up and just that basic kit what he get it how much it costs to give them an idea What it is that they need and in my own neighborhood? I do have a few senior citizens, so I know I will be helping with them either get the stuff or setting up the stuff. So that's one of the things we have to emphasize when we're talking about what we're passing out is that we do say it in the flyer we're here to help and to let us know. I already did have a conversation with someone who was saying, well, you know, I can't really be involved with the EPC too much. I have other things to do. And I told her, no, it's not about you being involved with EPC, it's about the EPC being involved with you to get you set up in case of an emergency. So that's the way I'm looking at it. It's not for the whole community to show up at the EPC meeting. It's reaching out to them and see what is that you need and get that set up and let's move on to the next group that may need help. So that's what I've got. Thank you. Thank you. If no other public comments, help go ahead. I didn't have a card for you. Go ahead and name and street. Of course, Mark Hughes-Valle, I'm here representing Fire Watch. I wouldn't say anything, but you'll be cast in shade about us not holding meetings with barbecue food. We'll make sure something's put on the books for November to get the group together, decide what our goals in agenda and motivation are going to be. I am not in charge of Fire Watch. I am just a member who happens to show up to meetings, but I'll organize one anyway, I don't care. We have been looking into radios and a few other things. It is possible to get handheld transceivers for well under $20 per person. Depending on what we get, it could be as low as $12 per person. So if you came up with a hub and spoke model that we would allow the community to transmit legally to a center point who might be able to then transmit back to City Hall or the EOC and an emergency or a 911 down situation, it might be something to consider. No idea where you would get funding for that, but fortunately for me, that's a you problem. Next up, we've got a run through with the city, John and I, where we're going to do a, is it a mock evacuation fire drill in December, a table top exercise with Mr. Rafferty, so we'll see if we can't coordinate with him and get some radio, fake radio traffic going on as well, and go from there. So we will meet November, we'll invite you. There will be food. I do have standards, so make sure it's quality meat that you bring, but we'll be happy to have you. That's all. Any questions? No, thank you. All right. Well, in regards to committee reports, we'll touch that upon our regular committee business report if there's no other committee comments none. Okay, so moving on to number six. Last month we just made a decision because we're not a policy-making body of the city, but more of an advisory. So we kind of alter the approval of minutes with just a, you know, attendance of a majority at the current meeting versus who was there on June, July. And obviously just kept piling up because different people were here during the meetings. We just authorized to approve. So both June, July and August got approved. And if you had a chance to review the September 19th last month's and if there are no changes, can I had a chance to review the September 19th last month and if there are no changes can I get a motion to approve or any changes? I move we approve the minutes. I second. Okay. Qun Lee is a yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you. unanimous. Okay. Committee business. Okay committee business. So consent calendar, end of that. Committee business, justina Garcia grants and articles. She is not here today so we'll go and push that forward unless anybody has any comments on that. I know we are looking for a volunteer to write grants and I believe that was a connection with one of the residents that is capable of writing quality grant requests for us so I'm sure we'll get some more information on that but I don't want to step on just as toes here tonight but let her bring it up to speed for us at the next meeting so we'll move on to zone neighborhood emergency list Patricia Kelly, member? Yes. I have been contacting the different cities, La Haber, La Marotta, Santa Fe Springs, and especially to deal with the issue with what to do with the animals on the west side of La Habra Heights. Because we know that if you had to evacuate animals on the east side, you can go to Shabaram, but the west side, that's not realistic for anyone that I've talked to. And so I did talk to some individuals who had to evacuate animals way back in the early 80s and law of her heights and they put them in the field that is now the preschool. And there was no facility there, but they were able to, the fire department assisted in helping people get their animals there. The closest, we're not really part of LA County, so LA County defers their animals to an organization that's part of Orange County Animal Rescue. So we are part of LA County. So far, I've only discovered that the closest place that we could rely on is maybe in Downey. Then there's a large one in downtown Los Angeles which seems ridiculously far because we don't know what kind of disaster we're really applying our plan for. And then so I was thinking there should be not knowing what disaster this is going to be. We already have a facility at the city. It's fenced in. There's a corals there. We don't know what kind of animals would need to be rescued. But if you're talking large animals, you're talking horses, pigs, goats, llamas is basically what people have that I've found so far. And a number of people that I talk to already have plans that they will take their animals in their own trailers out of lober heights to other people's. But we don't know what this disaster will be and will the owners be home. So we need to have a backup. And so I would like to have a short discussion when I'm finished with the referee. And what would be the problem? Just saying, depending on the disaster, it would be pretty obvious. People will know they need to get them out of the obrheer Heights or if they can get them down, can we put them in the park? I still think it wouldn't be a bad idea for someone to approach La Haber High School because they're so close and they're not really in a fire. They're lower, they're not in a flood. They already have an agricultural department there and facilities. So last time you all suggested that I talked to the city of La Habra, they just go, we don't do that. We don't do any animal stuff. Well, there's a whole program at the high school. So I would like to know if I can just go to the high school and talk to them directly. It's so close, it's just down Hossie and it. I also have been preparing larger materials specifically for people with animals that are suggestions from from Marin all the way to San Diego County they had some very interesting suggestions to put together the to go bag for your horses ahead of time or your large animals and also your small pets so I will get that together condense it and then I think it's something that we could individually pass out or have available in the future. Let's see. Also, a number of what seemed to be model programs in different cities in California that were suggested to me, they did suggest having the coffee and the barbecue, which John just brought up. So I was going to bring that up. I think that once we get our leaders in our five areas and then some of the individual committee, excuse me, community leaders on the streets, we should have a organized barbecue at the city I think would be good for some council people to go to that too. Ask questions, get input from the citizens of our own community. There's increased interest that we've all seen in the last month with I think it's a side effect of all the disasters. I hope it was from us going to the music in the park and promoting it. But I think it's that we're all cognizant of the possibility of increased disasters. So that is helping to fan enthusiasm. So I think the city should have a barbecue. I also promote, come sign up for your city on your street in your zone at this barbecue and have individual, do it like a booths. Have individual booths so that you've got firewires, you've got firewats, you've got cert, you've got first aid, you've got zones, you have people large animals, small pets, what if you have children? How can you volunteer for your community? I think that would be, I don't know how many people would turn up, but I think that we have more enthusiasm and we could organize it and we could have a barbecue and I'm sure the city could justify that expense and I would also like to have some small monitors with Or it could just be laptops because there are so many interesting YouTube's that are no longer than five minutes on everything from preparing the go bag for your large animals to helping your children to preparing in your home if you have small pets. How do you prepare your home if you had to stay in? And so those are really quick, very specific and I think it would hold the attention so that if you're at a little table and you're talking to people, there is the information on YouTube and you could just go booth to booth to booth and that would also stimulate conversations between people that might come. I'm not sure when we would do that with holidays coming, but there's going to be no shortage of rain, fires, earthquakes. And I mean, I hope there's a shortage, but there's no shortage of being able to prepare for them. And they're going to be all over the state of California. So I think that we need to follow the example of some very tight programs that do have these barbecues that encourage people to come. And I think the music in the park was helpful, but the people are there for music in the park and their families. And we need to get our own community involved with the breadth of opportunities that they could individually become involved for a day. That's all I have to say. Quick question in regards to your objectives and regards to the barbecue. Because barbecue is really, I don't know if it's going to be well attended. We saw music in the park. We saw call out to help clean. We're going to get less than one to two percent of the population. I think a written Well-written document with all the links to your videos Could be a good preparation to get information out and as we identify the five zone leaders We can bring them in and hope that their circle of Pods that they can just disseminate the information because to put together a community barbecue, it's a big event. And our city is limited as to what we can really, because a lot of us are volunteers. And we don't have a big pocket of money that we can go and spend. And unless we have a clear cut of Jack Davis, what we're trying to accomplish, but I think a good start would be the links to the YouTube channels, and you can put it under the categories of Firewise US serve program, whatever it may be, Firewatch communications. And now knowing that we can get a short-wave radios at $12 a unit, that's very inexpensive. So we can proceed. So if we can maybe narrow the scope down and itemize it, putting the links and then maybe utilize Guaptaq and the Heights Journal or the magazine to get that information on as an article possibility to entice people to start digging in deeper into what they need to do. So that may be a better. OK. Next the barbecue. We should use the city, wreck the basketball courts. That we can do and some Saturday and have other resources outside of our community come in which would be great too. It would be informative that no matter who you are in the community, something there is gonna be of interest to you and we can mix the barbecue cookies. I'll buy the cookies. I'll make desserts, whatever. We'll have coffee. But, you know, something that lasts a few hours. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Any questions? Then, we'll move on to education and outreach. We are coming to the first year of our far-wise USA. We have a three-year plan. We do not need to submit another plan per se. We can, you know, endorse it or incorporate additional objectives, but at this juncture, where about 90% completed with our objectives for this fiscal year for us and only thing that I need to put together and calculate is the amount of debris of fuel that has been removed throughout the year. And I do believe with ongoing the arm maintenance and removal of fuel. We should hit those numbers and make sure that we are certified again for the year 2025 to end of the year with that. But just kind of piggyback on what's going on. Our brush clearance began May 1 and it doesn't end there. It continues as we saw the disaster of flood. Who would have thought Laubra Heights is going to have a flood? And what caused most of the damage? It was the sitting debris that folks left on the hill sides, which came down and clogged up all the drainages, which caused the flooding to go on to the street, which further deteriorated our streets now it has to be redone. So my request is that our residents be vigilant and continue to remove debris from their yards all throughout the year if at all possible because forecasted in 2025 atmospheric river is going to be worst than it was in 2024 which means we're going to have a higher potential of more rain coming through at a heavier segments, which means already loose and hillside, yeah, with nothing to retain it is going to come down even faster. So what does that mean? Anything that remains up there as a potential fuel or debris that we do not remove, because I know most of folks do a great job weed-wacking, but then they leave the weed whack debris there thinking that it's just gonna degrade and disappear into the earth. It doesn't happen overnight. It takes years and that was the major cause of what we saw come down the hill was 50 years worth of debris that was just left on the north side of our Hossie in the road. So be vigilant, please continue to do fresh clearance, and then remove that debris during the quarterly cleanup. And there was a question that was popped up through Facebook from one of the residents. When is the next one going to be rescheduled? So simple responses, we now have a new trash collecting company. So the one that was scheduled for this fall has to be rescheduled, which it happens when you have a change in service provider, but definitely the city is on it to get back. So utilize your green, what is it now? The blue containers, correct? Are there green waste? Green lids. Green is green. Blue is recyclable and then the black is regular trash. So utilize that, cut them in small pieces on a weekly basis. It's not a lot of work but if you do that diligently you can get most of your debris out of your yard and then when the quarter leaves come back we can use a big dumpster because that is calculated into how much fuel we remove from the city and that monetizes into the number that we're trying to hit with Firewise USA to keep us certified and compliance. So we'll continue to push forward with that. Today was the great shakeout. What does that mean? La Hopper Heights is in a fall zone. There's an earthquake. Today was an example. The shake-out was based on a 4.5. We're prone to that. We're greater in Lahabar Heights. So, you know, our disasters are just not what we're looking out for. Firewise, USA or fire. It's going to be flood. It's going to be earthquake. It's going to be wind. Our weather pattern is changing. So what can you do as a resident? Continue to home harden your home to make sure the key things are making sure there are no loose tiles, there are no things that can easily add to the fire. Understand your immediate zone, intermediate zone, and extended zones of your home. What you need to realize. A simple thing you can do to help your home is make sure water availability. That's by putting a hose on every spigot around the house of your house. So you got one that's available that can reach any part of your property because we do have large properties. It's an acre. And most of the hoses are typically 100 feet and that's not going very far if you have an acre lot. So a good way to do is divide it up and make sure your home is protected and getting fuel removed. So we'll continue with education. Again, a lot of the thing the American Red Cross folks presented to us today are some of the things that we've already are doing now. We have a partner that we can get additional information and the more information more you know, you know, you become part of the solution. And unless you block the south, it's not going to happen to me. You're going to be part of the problem. So get engaged, get involved, and if you can volunteer like today, wanting to help. There are a lot of areas that the city could use, including the EPC, and I think you had a question. This is your area of expertise, extreme. My neighbors are increasingly concerned that their insurances are being canceled and today I got another email. So what do you suggest? I know that some areas are going to be more problematic to get any kind of coverage, but she texted me that state farm had just announced that they were going to do a 30% increase in California. Is that true? And- Not increase. They're going to get off 30% of the market share, meaning they're going to non-renew 30% of the marketplace that fall within Habitational and housing type of exposure that are in the what you would consider high-fire exposures Is that us? We're there. Okay, not every home, but here's here's basically what you can do to help yourself first if you're rough plumbing electrical HVAC is over 25 years old. Get it inspected. If you have the resources to replace it, please do so. It does cost, but if you do this over a period of time and maintain your home, that's part of the home hardening process. And if you have all that work done by a licensed contractor, make sure you retain the receipts and proof of work that's been done because that's how you're going to get in. And then in addition to that, go on to La Habra City website. We have a certificate that says we're fire wise USA. That doesn't guarantee you're going to get a quote or a renewal, but every insurance company has to recognize what we are certified for and has to give you a discount. Now when it comes on to an underwriter's decision, you're at a borderline, but if your home is already hardened, you have a defensible space and you have the certificate and you're maintaining all your stuff, better chance of being retained by the insurance company versus someone who has woodshake, paint us peeling from their face aboard, and debris everywhere. That's going to be the first person that they're going to, because now the companies are actually doing third-party aerial review, and these are year two years old. So you may have had to done, but if you got no proof that you had to work done by a licensed contractor to update your home, yeah, it's all hearsay. Yes, ma'am. You have a public comment question. And why would it be enjoyable to be in shouldn't stuff here? You know what I can say? You're in a period of getting over what is appropriate. If you're in a bad, what do you do? So the question comes, going to come down to the fenceable space. How far are you from your neighbor? Have you made attempts to contact your neighbor and request, hey, this is a debris that's going to be fuel? It's going to put your house and my house in exposure's way. But what if they say it used to be like a home? Yeah, I think it'd be good for you to stand up. Yeah. But what if they don't, like you said, have the money. But it's necessary. I mean, there's people in the Heights who are bad and they need to have their houses they need to fix them up because I worry that that fire is going to boom come up onto my house. So I know some of the work that the fire marshal does is inspect home not just for brush clearance but is there a hazardous situation that puts the home at a higher risk i.e. are they storing chemicals or are they storing that you know shouldn't be there. And I think the key thing is we can't as a advisory board you know prosecute anyone for failing to do that. All we're here to do is educate and advise the council to come up with a process or a procedure or maybe an ordinance that may mandate some of those folks to respond. So that's what we can write up something to the, if there is a neighbor that has a wrecked roof. No, but I mean, Ken, I was told that the fire department can look at your property where you have to clear out your stuff but they can't really come on your house property. They can't say, oh, you need to better get a roof. I don't know the answer to that. What don't I do this? I'll make a commitment to talk with our fire marshal and the fire department, get together some communication tools that can assist the residents to communicate with their names because we don't want friction. We're trying to all know we're just trying to be safe. I mean, you know, we don't want minehouse burden down because he's not or she's not doing her job. So financial burden is the key for from them maintaining their property? I guess. Maybe. Maybe you can reach out to them and see what assistance you may need. If it may be financial, then we'll take a look if there's grants available. There are grants that are available that we did utilize in removing trees over the last couple of years. So that's a possibility. All right. I'm definitely going to get on that. Okay. Now that I have the permission to... I think it's best to know his talk. Okay. Go ahead, John. Okay, so call me a new eluintic. But one of the suggestions that I've heard before is that we need more volunteers. And one of the things that people can volunteer at if they're physically able to is to help the elderly with their properties to do brush clearance. It's pretty straightforward. We just need involvement from the community to actually volunteer. The fire could start two or three houses away from their house, but yes, eventually it may get to you. But if I am concerned that, you know, enough to... I'll be one of the volunteers, but I cannot do much by myself. So yes, I'm proposing more volunteers to help and get something going to do some brush clearance or free as a volunteer. Thank you. And maybe the city because there's a couple of programs that I've been involved with La Habra, city of La Habra and La Habra Heights, but it's Love La Habra. And as a EPC we've been trying to incorporate Love La Habra Heights, identify those residents that are elderly or financially strapped and that can take just volunteers to remove. It could be a one-day event and it turns into you know a group of people we can reach out to other social clubs or service clubs and the other surrounding cities. If they can come out assist with us to churches or another great resource but I know in the past the city has identified certain front yard or backyards that have not been serviced because the residents are not mobility-wise capable of doing their own work so we went into the backyard city dropped off a dumpster and working with a trash company and removed all the brush so that's the possibility that we can do and that's going to happen the first May, the first week at Saturday of May. So again, going back to John Dominguez's comment, you know, it doesn't take one or two people. It's going to take the village. We need volunteers. So if you're capable on that day, when we eventually announce it. Bring your tools. If you've got a weed whacker, if you've got whatever tools that you can assist with, maybe a chainsaw, you're an operator, you know how to operate, we can remove large stumps or whatever it may be, but the key is removing fuel. And that's our goal is eliminate fuel that's gonna add to the problem. And we're not gonna solve everybody's problem overnight or one year, but it's chipping away and getting information out and getting volunteers to take pride. Because again, I think at the city council, the contention was that we live in a rural area. It's unique. We all live here because the layout of the community. The beauty in that is we don't have industries, we don't have retail stores, we don't have a lot of theft because of it. And so, if you continue to live in a city that you enjoy it, then you need to add value by contributing to some of the issues that we're trying to attack. And I don't have the magic pill to make it happen overnight. You know, it all began with fire, probably USA as an idea. And we've expanded that. Now we've got fire watch involved. We got certain involved. This is a starting blocks. And as we build on it, we're going to start resolving a little of the problem because again, our city staff really limited to a resources because of the budgetary constraints. If we had tons of money coming in, even I think the challenge is gonna be even looking at LA City at three quarters of the way, there's news announcement, there's tax revenues down $76 million at three quarters. That's $100 million throughout the year forecasted. If the big cities are having that problem, what are the small cities going to do? They're going to see the same problem. So it's volunteers we need, and rather than reacting, let's be proactive, and if opportunities come up, this is my ask, is step up folks and get involved, because it's who, as individual residents, is going to make the city a better place. So I don't wanna really pound that too much, but really, you know, as John said, volunteers, you know, give us one week and give us two hours, three hours a month, you know, like the cleanup. We can expand that to East West Road eventually. And then into smaller pods. And we have one more speaker. Hey, Frank. Question? and then into smaller pods. And we have one more speaker. Hi, your friend. Question. I'll say that I think some more. Just for that. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. We have to answer her question. Al, the Fire Marshal, is one hell of a gentleman. All she's got to do is ask him and he'll come out and answer 90% of her questions. He's excellent at it. I did 35 years as a volunteer up here when we had the all volunteer fire department. My property is the one that you mentioned, washed down on the Hase enda. Well, because of the weed debatement program as it is now, I don't have a lot of weeds. Back in the days, we had weeds. We didn't have as much hill slide. Next, fire watch, fire department. We had a fire, well next to my property, weeds were 4 feet high. Middle of the afternoon in September, because we had enough volunteers, that fire was put out before it burned halfway up my hill. That's because we had the people. We don't have it now. And not that it's all bad, I think these guys do a good job. We need volunteers. They can do what she's asking. We used to go out as a department guys on Sunday. We go out and do some of this cleanup stuff. Quick as training. That was part of our training drills and so on. So we got a lot of it down. It makes it hard. I am caught in between. Do I keep the weeds way down? Keep the ground clean? Or do I let them grow up and be mud stoppers? I'm caught in between and we saw what happened. I'm all for it. I don't fight it. Rafferty's done a hell of a good job. And I think our department's doing good. But they need help. They can't do it by themselves and you brought up some good points. Thank you. I agree. Thank you. Thank you for that. All right. I'm done with what I need to say about the education and outreach. My closing is that volunteers, volunteers, volunteers, please reach out if you got we have one more question on that. I do have an idea. So in high school I used to serve, well I was a part of the NGRTC program and something that we would do is that we would volunteer our time and sometimes if you do a specific hours, it's a sure amount of hours, you get a special ribbon. And it just looks really nice because once you have like a whole pile of ribbons, you get to show off. I do know LaHara has an NGRRTC program, and I have seen a lot of people that are in their bikes and they drive up here and they live in like LaHara Heights. So I think it would be nice if we reach out to maybe the school and because sometimes students need to complete a certain amount of volunteer hours, it would be nice for them to just help out the community and neighboring communities and they can also just make connections, if they wanted to volunteer in government, then we can just communicate with them and any volunteers that we need because LaHabra's not too far away from here and we're in LaHabra Heights, but I think that would be nice to just throw out that idea and just have like the school of programs and just help us out. Thank you for that. I think on that I'm just going to piggyback and expand it. We will need to make a recommendation to the City Council to recognize maybe a Saturday, May 1st, as a national love La Habra Heights participant. It all began up in Northern California, but we can set that as a beginning. And then request groups of volunteers to bring their talents. Some could be painting, some could be cleaning, some could be actually brush clearance. So if certain groups can come, that would be ideal. So we'll plan on that. And I think May would be a great month to get things rolling. Because it's not going to happen over the winter time, definitely because the weather's so thank you. I think we have one more speaker. Hi, Mark Hughes, VA, the one who's upset about not having another barbecue. I've heard a lot of talk about volunteer and volunteering, and my concern is how you turn that talk into action in an unmotivated community. My suggestion, and it may be good, being be bad, would be to perhaps invite a community organizer, somebody who has experience getting people to do things, to advise the committee on how to motivate the population. Um, it's, we just hope they volunteer. People aren't getting off their sofas. They're gonna to pick up a paint brush, most aren't. But maybe there's a way to agitate them to action. Thank you. And, um, I do expect you to bring food. Thank you for your input. All right, so we're getting a little, so I'm done. So property management component with Bradley, not Rob said member is not here. So move on to certain training, anything to add this evening. What I'll add is on October the fifth, we participated at the Community Yard Sale. I thought it was a pretty good event. A little bit of opportunity for us to do an outreach. Love LaHobba Heights. There were some teachers being handed out with that slogan out there, which was great. So I decided to order today. I like that concept. We've seen it, I've seen it, I participated in a couple of different cities that do something similar. I know Berea does and some of the cities that I used to work in have something similar. They may not title it that way, but it's a day of volunteer. And some locations use Martin Luther King Day, which is in January as an opportunity to volunteer. There's some other communities that are days of the year that are kind of also designated in that space. So I'll think about some ideas that are kind of also designated in that space. So I'll think about some ideas that are kind of going in that space. The other thing that I'll kind of ask the community, I do know that where I work, they will sponsor some of these events. I will reach out to the community team there. They typically in that sponsoring will do things like a t-shirt, as well as if he need equipment, gloves, other equipment for like even the street cleanup. They would provide some of the material if that's needed, as well as sponsors and meals for the event. They also ask for a little bit of their advantageous face so we can try and figure out what that can do. But I know there's other large organizations that are also willing to do that as long as we help with doing the labor of organizing, getting the volunteers and the objective is in line with what they're also trying to achieve achieve helping the community. That could be a committee that we can look out for that can be put together just a thought as you're speaking. Let's say we did one Lahopra Heights event and part of that event is going to be cleaning up the park. Maybe the Highlanders Club could work on the horse stalls for that area. We can get some of group to repaint and clean up the gazebo area. Some could go in around the gym area and make sure that's taken care of. There's a lot of small groups we can put together, but the key thing is, again, going back to the volunteers. But yeah, that's a great idea, getting corporate sponsorship. I know in Lahabra, Chick-fil-A has been a good partner. In and out's usually a good partner when you're doing these events, because again, it's a brand for them also. And at the end, a lot of the churches, you bring out their congregations to come out and help. So there's a lot of organizations I can and I think the key thing is maybe we invite even the folks that are here to be part of the committee that can start putting together what La Habra Heights, love La Habra Heights would look like, what you would like to accomplish, maybe get an information out, maybe identify that neighbor that needs help, get that address over to the city we make a list and then prioritize what needs to be done and as this event comes we can pick that residence to help them get to a point now. Great story on that is there's a home in La Habra. The city asks during La Habra, you know, love La Habra for the Lions Club to come and clean up the front yard because during COVID these weeds grew to four or five feet. And as one person, it would have took weeks and weeks to clean up. 20 volunteers all came with their weed whackers. We were done in two hours. And it happened again the following year. You know, we kind of assisted and told them, you need now need to, you know, upkeep your property. Was it three days ago or four days ago I was driving down the road? Nice lawn. Perfect. No weed. So it does work. It does work. So that's a great successful story. Not everything's going to turn out that way. But at the end, you know, we can only do one at a time. If we can make one life impacted, we've done our job. So going back volunteers and then partnering up maybe corporate suicide to get this program really lined. So I'm planning on making a presentation of City Council at the next city meeting. And hopefully we can get this on the books and start working on getting our love la Habra Heights event put together. So we'll do that. Verbal updates. Any additions to your search training for? I move on. Nothing further. There is a meeting that's going to take place with La Marada in November. So I'll attend there. See what else we can do to coordinate, again trying to see if we can get a class together, or some other activity together as a certain team. I did start doing some other outreach as to other communities and we'll just continue down that road. And just for folks kind of wearing this, we're similar in the other cities in the sense of they're all also trying to establish, or reestablish their sort of team. So they're also trying to pull together team members and have some ideas of what they're doing to do that outreach and how they're approaching it. It does parallel what we're doing here going to the concerts in the park, creating brochures, putting ourselves out there in the publications, community publications like we've been doing and just making that awareness. La Marotta has had a little bit more run of it, but they've said it's taken them a bit of a time to get to where they're at right now. So they're still a small group, but they are kind of continuing down the path. So I think that the we were talking about it's patients, communication, you know be creative about the ideas that we have around how we do the outreach. Welcome any volunteers as many as we can just to help us get the word out. You know, build out that network of community and just keep going. So yeah, that's kind of where we're at with Sir. I will pull together some additional material. I'll get that actually to just see now and see what the plan is for the next article in one of our publications and see what else we can put out there to help remind folks. And last thing, I do believe the material we just heard earlier today from Ryan around Red Cross. We somehow need to incorporate that into our body of work. That's great information for folks, and maybe part of our next education session maybe have Red Cross participate in the 30 minute or it sounds like a 30 minute or an hour session on preparedness or something like that. I mean, there's something definitely we can leverage on what they're doing because of where we're on the same path. I agree with that and then just as a closing for your search training, you may want to reach out to LaHabra city of LaHabra. Yes. They may be having one within the next couple months. So, you know, we can coordinate and send maybe three or four of our folks that are willing to do it. We can send them down there. LaHabra and the city of Whiti are both going for that. So I'll bury it. Verbal updates. Far away, USA program. We did not have any educational programs set for this fall. We will look at possibly putting together a workshop of putting together ready-set go kits. We're going to utilize some of this information, which includes driver's license, emergency contact list, locally and out of the state state because you want somebody who could be the centralized receiver of that information and distribute to the rest of the family's passport, spur certificates, social security cards, medical insurance cards, immunization cards, insurance policies, you know, a cash. ATM may not be working if there's a disaster. So always have some cash. Travelers checks are okay too, bank account numbers. One of the things that happened at Paradise Fire was the cell system went down, electricity went down, so there was no communication other than when they got out into the real world where it was cell. They couldn't get a hold of their insurance agents, they could get a hold of their bank accounts, because they all burned. So now was a worst-case scenario. It happened pretty quick. There are some tools that are out there that you could use with your cell phone and we may incorporate some of that into the educational process. So the ready set go kids for that's going to be our next workshop. Community outreach program, education, cleanup, volunteers. I think that has to continue. And our members here who's been boots on the ground knocking on doors, you know, you done the best you could and you're right. Our terrain is not easy to navigate and it's difficult up and down hills. So and then homes are set back far away from the entry gate and you don't want to step into somebody else's private property. So, maybe we'll utilize Gualk Talk and other media resources and also the LaHabra Heights Facebook page. That's been a good communicating tool, i.e. the problem that we're seeing a lot that's going on is the current trash situation. Some folks haven't had their trash picked up in three weeks. And so, you know, I, I, I resolved that if, you know, the wear doesn't respond or even, you know, Republic didn't pick up their old trash can. City was getting to get involved and they came through one more time last week and picked up Hoss in the road. So if you, anybody out there that needs something done, coordinate with the city, because city's here to help. So that, and then again, remind everybody today, October 17 at 1017 was a great shakeout. It was a LA County-wide event. That was good. And so we've discussed that. Any public comments on open items, not on the agenda? None? Okay, it's been a very helpful and detailed and lengthy discussion and we do appreciate as of yet see because anytime we go over 30 minutes means we're doing our job because we got public coming in to speak with us so thank you for that and we'll call the meeting to end at 7. So thank you for that and we'll call the meeting to end at 708 PM. Thank you.