I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Members of the commission, we will start with our agenda review. This evening you will adopt the agenda, then have approval of the minutes. Any comments on the minutes? Okay, hearing none. There is no board of zoning appeals meeting. That has been canceled. And so that will take you into, you will have citizens time and then take you into the public hearings. And the first public hearing this evening is zoning ordinance text amendment, Next amendment to articles 4,14 and 15 related to boards commissions and committees. So in February the Board of Supervisors initiated a text amendment to those various chapters of the zoning ordinance. Staff was asked to evaluate these various groups and their roles as defined in the zoning ordinance and further staff was asked to propose eliminating any Board's commissions and committees which are not required under the code of Virginia or are not currently providing a defined role. The agon forest Staff sorry agon forest the First Committee Board of Building Appeals, Planning Commission and Board of Zoning Appeals, are we- Again Forest, the staff, sorry. Again Forest Committee Board of Building Appeals, Planning Commission and Board of Zoning Appeals, are required by the Code of Virginia. So sorry, the Transportation Committee is, the Transportation Committee is another committee that we staff, that is not required by the Code of of Virginia but is established pursuant to that code. That committee meets one time a year and they make recommendations on the six-year plan. Related to the ARB, the Code of Virginia allows the locality to provide a local review board to a minister historic site's ordinance but does not require them to do so. The Board of Supervisors established the ARB in 1976. The primary duty of the ARB as it laid out in the ordinance is to give council to the board regarding permits within the historic district. Currently there are no historic area districts have been created or adopted in the county. And as such the ARB has not needed to perform this primary duty of advising the board related to those permits. Staff believes it would be appropriate to assign those responsibilities associated with the historic area district to community development staff. The proposed transfer of responsibilities could be temporary until such time that there is a historic district beam proposed. I would note that we have not had an inquiry. I think one inquiry in the last ten years into a historic district. The zoning ordinance also lists other duties of the ARB advising the board on historically significant sites, advising owners of historic landmarks or buildings, concerning preservation, formulate recommendation on historic markers, and cooperate with the various landmark commission, national trust, et cetera. These duties and associated tasks are now primarily the responsibility of community development staff, particularly our preservation planner who has served as the staff lead for the ARB for years. As such, staff is proposing amendments to the zoning ordinance which transfers these responsibilities to community development staff. So in conclusion, there are changes being proposed in three major areas. Article of the zoning ordinance includes the requirements for creating a historic area district. And how to administer that district. As mentioned, there are not any of these districts in the county and as such, the ARB has not needed to perform those responsibilities. So we are proposing that the references to the ARB and these areas be changed to community development staff. Second is Article 11 wireless communication facilities. This article requires ARB to review specific wireless facilities within a half a mile of a national registrar historic place, half a mile of a national scenic byway. Since March of 2019, when the ordinance was adopted, the ARB has only been asked to review two such facilities. And as this is such a rare current staff proposes that the ARB requirement be deleted from the ordinance and those review responsibilities be transferred to community development staff. And finally, as Article 14, Board's commissions and committees, this is where the Planning Commission, BZAN, ARB guidelines are laid out, and that the ARB has not needed to perform the study of advising the Board on permits with the historic area district, staff believes section 14-300 could be deleted at this time. In Article 15, there is a tweak where abbreviations are used, and ARB is listed there, and that is also being proposed to be removed. Staff Woodnote, there is a lot of good work that comes out of this group. It is primarily led by our staff, but I am not acknowledging, I want to acknowledge the good work that they do. Serval have, citizens have approached me with concerns related to what will happen to the workshops or the public programs that are currently sponsored as part of the ARB and my responses, we would continue to do those. Staff would continue as they do now to organize these type of events. You do have some letters of public comment and I would like to note, it's noted in the staff report and I have shared this with those expressing concerns that if in the future the Board of Supervisors wishes to establish a citizen advisory committee which is focused on preservation they certainly could do so under their own goal guidelines with a unique mission. The establishment of such a committee would not need to be housed and included in the zone in Ornitz. With all of that said, this has been getting some attention. I am going to ask you to postpone action tonight, just to be sure that there's adequate time for understanding and public comment. I'm happy to answer any questions or go into more detail. Any questions just to ask at this point? Holly, it's there. I understand that a number of the RWB are all volunteers. They're not paid like we are, is there any other cost to the running of the ARB? The cost is minimal. It's staff time. And when we do these public presentations, sometimes we might provide water and snacks. It's a very minimal cost. Cost is not what's driving this. And when a proposed development is coming before us, and there is, I know there aren't any county designated historic sites, but there are national and state designated sites and areas in this county. Who is responsible for identifying that a historic site? Our Preservation Planner does that. She is routed the applications and many times you will see a section in your staff report with comments from the Preservation Planner. And you feel that one person doing that with all the proposals actually we just have to reinforce in the next few months that one person has adequate for that? Absolutely. I do. She's been able to keep up and comment on all the applications as well as performing her other duties. Mr. Chairman, I have a follow-up question to that. I have the highest regard for Wendy Weakrat, who does a really, really good job. My question is, I believe the ARB meets once a month. They do, and that is contained in this only one. Right. And so, if an application is working its way in our direction, is it taken to the ARB for their comment? I believe Wendy may brief them on the project, but comments do not come from them to you other than in the two instances of the telecommunication towers. But they could. They certainly could. That's not a problem. And so the ARB in the course of its work and in the course of the staff's work is made aware of the possible effect on an historic area or an historic site when an application is working this way in our direction. Is that right? Yes, I do. Thank you. Any other questions, staff? Hearing none, living on. Moving on, that takes you to the Ag and Forest editions. If it's okay, we'll keep all. I'll just do all three in a row. And commissioners, we will vote on these three in a lump sum this evening. If that's okay with you. Okay, thank you. So the first is the 23rd edition to the Marshall Warranton District. This includes three edition requests, all adjacent to each other and all of the same family. The first is Laura Foxx. She's requested to add two parcels, a total of 50 acres in the two. And the overall ranking system that you all have heard several times before, whether it's enrolled in land use adjacent to a district adjacent to an ag forest core, which the state code defines as 200 acres of contiguous land in the district. The acreage, the soils and the ecological evaluation per the DCR natural landscape assessment and then whether or not there's an active agricultural operation forestry plan or conservation easement on the property. This property received a total score of 81 out of 100 points. There is a forestry plan that they submitted with the application from several decades ago, but they plan to continue with that. Very similar, John Fox, the same forestry plan that was submitted with Laura Fox. It's one parcel just under 42 and a half acres received a total of 78 out of 100 points. And then Susan Fox, scapeier, the southern end of these seven parcels total. Four parcels, 102 acres received an 85 out of 100 and has a new forestry claim that she's working on with the Department of Forestry. All three of these additions together is seven parcels, approximately 195 acres. The Ag Forest Committee unanimously recommended approval of all three of those. Sorry, it wasn't fast-floor, I. The Plains District, the Mr. Residence property, it's one parcel just under 49 acres, received a 67 out of 100. It is an active farm. He does have cattle on the property and has paid it in the past. Again, the Ag Forest Committee, Unanimacy Recommended Approval, and then K-Manor Farm. This is two parcels just over 25 acres. He has all of the surrounding parcels that are also currently enrolled in Ag Forest. Received 71 out of 100 for this, it is an active cattle farm, and I will note that one of these parcels was an administrative error and should have been renewed with the district in 2022. and he's since acquired the second parcel and is adding that one so we've just for clarity added that one as well. I'm happy to answer any questions on it. Any questions to staff at this point? Thank you very much. Not for staff but since these are three different districts but we're voting on them all once will each representative make emotion how do you want to handle that? I would just call for a vote on the three and if there is any opposition to anything then we'll discuss it. If that's okay with staff and that's okay with legal counsel. Thank you. And we'll have a public hearing. Oh, absolutely. And all three of us. Yes. But we'll. Okay. If that's okay with staff, and that's okay with legal counsel. Thank you. And we'll have a public hearing. Oh, absolutely. And all three of yes. But we'll group them together as a public hearing. Thank you, Ms. Marshall. I'm next. That's why I have a sat down. Next is a special exception for Church of God at Midland, Ms. Marshall. Okay. Okay, this is a category 6 and nine special exception and a category nine special permit for the Church of God at Midland. The property is near the intersection of Catlett Road and Mets Road. It's just under 61 acres. The special exception for a major place of worship in a special exception and special permit for Class B events longer than three days. The property is owned agriculture, surrounding properties are also known to agriculture, as well as R1, commercial neighborhood C1, and industrial park I1, predominantly residential and agricultural uses, as well as Maye Hughes and this and that outlet at the intersection of Mets and Catlet and the village of Eustace, Corridor. The rural land use plan identifies several considerations in special permit and special exception approvals, specifically consideration as to whether the use is agriculturally and early compatible in scale and intensity, whether it poses a threat to public health safety and welfare, whether it contributes to the preservation of historically significant structures or landscapes, whether it helps to preserve farmland in open space or if it interferes with operations of adjacent properties. Specific elements to consider with these applications, potential traffic generation, the scale and placement of buildings, the frequency of events and activities that operating hours in any water and sewer impacts. The applicants request for the category six special exception for a major place of worship includes the main church building approximately 35,000 square feet including a 325-seat auditorium meeting rooms a fellowship hall of bathrooms and a kitchen shown in yellow on the map the auxiliary building approximately 17,500 square feet including an event area gym bathrooms and storage rooms shown in the light pink on the map a A pavilion that's 5,000 square feet shown in orange and a storage shed 2,500 square feet shown in the green right there. Outdoor recreation areas shown in purple, these include a playground and then outdoor sports courts, left and right turn lanes from Catlet Road, landscaping and buffering 261 parking spaces, well end drain field, as well as drain field reserve, and an underground water tank for fire suppression. The applicants plan to have two Sunday services, one from 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. and one from 6 p.m. to roughly 8 p.m. If was, clarity was needed as to whether there were 325 people combined at both Sunday services or 325 people at each service. The applicants have since clarified the day and tend to have 325 people at each Sunday service as well as a Wednesday service from 7 to 9 PM with 325 attendees, a Tuesday Bible study from 7 to 8 p.m. with 30 attendees, Friday youth services from 7 to 9 p.m. with 50 attendees, an occasional wedding sphenerals appreciation banquet dinners for high school graduates or elderly members of their congregation. They've indicated generally they have one to two of these events of each type of event per year only for members of the church not open to the public. Kara, I do have a question about that. I, did they give any estimates on that head count in addition? So if you have a Wednesday night service with 325 attendees, you have a Saturday wedding with 325 attendees, and you have two Sunday services with a grand total of 650 people that's in and out all week long. Did they give any estimates on the special events, what the totals were? No indication for how many people may be at each of those events would certainly be regulated by their occupancy. And as you'll see later later in the conditions we did include a condition for maximum attendance throughout the week and then maximum attendance for any given day. They have indicated in their wastewater characterization report and their septic analysis their plans with their system and their holding tank that they're proposing would provide sufficient soils and capacity to accommodate these events and whatever attendance they may have. Not the Class B event but these operational events that may occur. Okay. So their septic system would be able to handle 6.5.8.7. Over 700 people per week, every week, 52 weeks a year. And I do get into a bit more. OK. Sorry. Sorry. That's OK. The special exception and special permit for Class B event, this is for their annual fellowship meeting. Currently there, the Manassas Church of God, they've been at their current property for 75 years and have had their annual meeting at that property and would hope to continue that at this new property. This includes various services, meals, events, and activities that occur in both of the buildings and the outdoor recreation areas on the property. It's six days long, typically held during the summer. It's Tuesday evening through Sunday with a total anticipated cumulative attendance of 3,000 people across the six days. Approximately 400 to 500 attendees each day and they've indicated they plan to have portable toilets and a pump truck on standby during the annual event to address an So if the event is Tuesday through Sunday, then you would be adding another 650 people for church services on Sunday. They do not have regular services and activities while that event is going on. On that Sunday. And there's a condition that says that they cannot have those occurring sounds. Got it. Thank you. Yes. So their wastewater characterization study, they've indicated it has a total weekly peak flow of 3,650 gallons or an average daily flow of 521.4 gallons per day. They have indicated that these numbers were generated based off of five gallons per day per seat, rather than five gallons per per day per person which was an initial question that staff had. So Sundays at 325 people or seats is 1,625 gallons per day. So with the two services at 325 seats would still be the same 1625 gallons per day. Tuesday, 30 people, 150 gallons per day, Wednesdays, 325 people, 1625 gallons per day, Fridays, 50 people, 250 gallons per day, with no flow proposed on Mondays, Thursdays, or Saturdays. They've proposed a sand drift system with a daily dose of 600 gallons per day and a 4,000 gallon holding tank and the study states that the system should accommodate any occasional weddings, funerals and banquet. Any questions on that? Yeah, question. You think? I am. I'm just doing that. So with the 650 people on Sunday plus the 325 on Wednesday, the 30 on Tuesday and the 50 on Friday is 1555 people per week, per week on Catlet Road, on Catlet Road. And the total square footage that I was just doing, the total square footage. The main building and the auxiliary building is 52,500 square feet combined. Which I think you could go. And this is just a little over 60 acres. What was last month? Sorry, my mic wasn't on. What was last month? The bridge I believe is about 20 acres, 25 acres. Okay. And they had their total church with multi-purpose was about 35,500 square feet with a 499 seat sanctuary plus 160 children and 18 employees, 677 people total on a Sunday service with three services and had 2,440 people per week as their condition. Okay. Plus another 450 people in their multi-purpose building. So 2900. Okay. Outstanding issues with this, the zoning ordinance requires sites eligible for Class B events to contain a minimum of 100 acres. As this property contains just under 61 acres, the board is required, should they want to approve it to make a finding that the less restrictive standards do not negatively impact any other general or specific standard and will serve the purposes of promoting public health safety and welfare to an equivalent degree. And then the septic estimates, as we've discussed already, the materials did clearly indicate they plan to have two Sunday services, and it was conflicting information whether they were gonna have a combined through 25 or separate, and we had included conditions, including restricting the weekly attendance to 840 persons in a maximum of 325 people per day, and that was based on their 600 gallon per day dose and five gallons per person. And as I mentioned, they did update that stuff. And Cara, this backs up to the railroad tracks. Correct. So the railroad tracks run along here. There is a private street for a farm that runs along the south side and then along the back side and then 28 along the front and then there is the intersection with max and this side here is all wooded and we've included a condition that that generally be maintained as much as possible and Access would be restricted or off limits to that Access would be only off of 28. Okay, so that there would not be use allowed use. Could we make that a condition for gross farm road that cannot be utilized? We can certainly add that to make it very clear. We do have the V.O. improvements that would If you needed, in the turn lanes would need to be constructed to meet all V.O. standards and the entrance and site report in here. Sorry. Is the V.O. report in here? V.O. comments are included in the back of the staff report. Okay. Okay. Their comments were generally advisory with the site plan stage that they would need more detail with all of the specifics and dimensions for the entrance and trainings. The included conditions for the place of worship, but it's limited to a place of worship and incidental uses and limited to members only., a maximum attendance of 840 people per week or 325 attendees per day. Sunday service hours, Wednesday service hours, general place of worship hours from 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. and all activities ending by 10 p.m. and then no regular services or activities while the Class B event is occurring. The Class B event limited to one event per year, no more than six days in length, with a maximum cumulative attendance of 3,000 people, or for 500 people per day. Activities between the hours of 9 a.m. and 10 p.m. with the exception of Fridays, which may go until 11 p.m., which is consistent with the noise ordinance. Temporary toilets for the event with permits from the health department. A pump truck on standby during the event with a copy of the contract provided to zoning prior to the event. Traffic control provided at the event. An emergency plan provided and updated annually. Any required licenses and permits obtained by the Sheriff's Office of Eda, Emergency Services and the health department prior to the event. No overnight stays on the property and no cooking unless the commercial kitchen is approved by the health department. Parking and loading shall be effectively screened the wooded area on the north side of the property shall be preserved to the greatest extent possible. Any building and walkway light and limited to care? Paracircum. Paracircum. Paracircum. Paracircum. Paracircum. Paracircum. one slide sorry. Yes. Okay. So for the massive once a year event. Yes. What was the discussion around food? I mean, for provisions. They do plan to have a commercial kitchen on the property and it's not for sale. It's just for the people that are in attendance at the event. They would need to have that permitted by the health department. And then should they have any other food trucks or anything of that? That would require apartments as well. OK. All right. Thank you. Building and walkway lighting limited to pathway, andro baller and style lights. The onsite well shall not be used to fill or refill the water storage tank. Operation maintenance and monitoring of the septic system shall be in accordance with all applicable regulations with a water or effluent meter installed to track the water usage and a remote telemetry device installed on the system as well. Left and right turn lanes meeting all V.O. standards and any other improvements required by V.O. Shelby completed prior to commencement of the use. They shall obtain all applicable V.O. health department zoning and building permits and a site plan shall be required prior to commencement of the use. Care, back to the onsite will not use to fill or refill the water storage tank. I read to where they will initially fill the storage tank from another source. But is the storage tank for the fire suppression? Yes. Okay. So is the event of an emergency? That's why we've added the no refill. But they will have a storage tank for their own site use from that source. That's just a fire suppression underground tank. They would have their normal well-tank. That is correct. But not. But you may want to actually clarify that and state that the water storage tank is for fire suppression. Yeah. Certainly. Oh, we do. as well as any refilling after an emergency event of any underground water storage tank for fire suppression shall be from all six sources. Okay. Actually, thank you. So our recommendation, if the applicants wish to have two Sunday services with 325 people at each which they have indicated they do the applicant or planning commission may wish to postpone action for them to provide the updated materials. They have provided the updated materials. We have not received comments from our soil scientists or the health department yet with those. Alternatively, you all and or the applicants could wish to proceed with the materials as presented. Happy to answer any questions. I'm completely confused about the 325 and the first condition etc. So what I understand you to now say is that they do want to have the ability to have two services with 325. Yes. Okay. So that means that the first condition in this... Condition number five. In the staff report. I'm looking at, okay, condition. Back some of the tendons 840 people a week or 325 or 325 a day. Okay. And so what you're what you now are telling us is that they do want to have the ability to have at least two Sunday services of 325 each. and they've submitted materials to update the capacity for other infrastructure to allow that but you aren't the sole scientist hasn't gotten back to you about that or the health department okay so we've advertised a public hearing based on one number one number and now so I'm not we have a revised number. Yeah. So we have a public hearing this evening. Here are what they saying that's 325 seats per day versus 325 people so people are there for say three hours in the morning and two hours in the evening. So it's five hours. But the 325 is based on the number of seats, not the number of people. So even though it's 650, it's really 200. They say that typically they have 200 people, but that's irrelevant. So I think that what they're saying is that still five gallons per day per seat versus five gallons per day per person, so meaning they come twice, they're not going to use five gallons or put five gallons in the morning and five gallons in the evening. Is that right? And that was the clarity that was needed. Some of the materials originally were reflecting numbers per person, and some were reflecting seats. And so we sought that clarification from them, and we received it. They've indicated that their calculations were based off of the code of Virginia flows for theaters. There's not a designated church flow. And so that's the five gallons per seat is what that number is. The health department could certainly require them to do more. Should they wish to when they got their septic permit, which is why we're awaiting comments from the health department on their thoughts on that. My question still is, are they wanting to change us to change the number of 840 people a week? That's the first condition. And what did they want it to be? The 1,55 people would encompass their regular activities and services. It would not include any extra people for an event that they may occasionally have. So the 840, the math on that was based off of what they said combined with what their septic system dosage was. I understand how the I'm just trying to figure out what we're working on possibly. Well, I want to know what we're presenting to the public. That's right. Yes. That's right. And that's why we had at our recommendation was for post-pomant so that it was not a confusion of what was being presented while they have changed and provided updated numbers without comments from the health department that they are an agreement with those calculations and the time for staff to correctly update those conditions as well as the rest of the report to accurately reflect their request. So we will not be acting on it tonight. I'm asking a question I I guess. I mean, can they provide that information before tonight is 6.30? Before tonight plus give you guys time to update it? I suggest with this last minute submission of materials and the confusion over numbers, sizes, et cetera, that postpone action and allow us the time to digest this as staff and bring it back to you. And to George's point, I also have a very big concern about number 22, the Class B event, and the number of people, you know, 3,000 people over six days. That's, to me, that's in a slightly different category than the 840 people a week, because they're not, to me, they're changing the request as of today for the number of people that can come in a week. And that's part of, anyway, I've said, I think we need to have some clarity about what are we having a public hearing on and what are we being asked to vote on. And if the recommendation is to not act on it tonight, but with the public hearing's been advertised, so we're going to hear everybody's thoughts, right? I would ask Mr. Smith if the increased numbers are palatable to you. Well, I don't know that they're increased numbers. Again, it's basically, I was trying to Google to see what the church, they see, just when I googled it, matched with they said, which is five gallons per day. But I didn't know if that was over a 24-hour period or a 12-hour period or just a couple of our period that was But I'm thinking like what they said it's per day so it doesn't matter if they come in the morning they come in the Evening it's not 650 it's still 325 But I did not know. I could say I couldn't determine if the 5. It is by 12 hours. It's 5 gallons per day per seat, per 12 hour. Per 12 hours. So in that case, they fit. Because the morning services like 3 hours, or the training Sunday school, when they leave, is like 3 hours. And then the then the evening Sunday night service I think was an hour and a half. Two hours. So it's under the 12. So it's not 325. That's really 325 that day. 325 Wednesday night. 50 I think for the kids, the youth event, and then 30 for another event. We would need to update condition five, though, regardless. And so it's easy to do the numbers of 1,055 and 650 people on Sundays, but with that not including any of their occasional events, would be best to get confirmation from them on what they're anticipated attendance for those would be so that we don't should you all agree not conclude them from having those accessory church events. Are you inclined to agree with staff that you would like to have this? I will, because I got criticism of how I was proud of this fact. I don't know if you would like to agree with staff that you would like to put on this. I will. Okay. Because of the panel's back. I don't personally know whether we need to, but I would be okay if everybody else wanted to. Okay. That's kind of where we stand. Any other questions on this subject at this point. Sorry, I'm sorry. That's okay. Thank you. Moving on. Okay. Moving on. Next is Special Exception, Georgia Brown Property Lot 2B, an application for a category 9 Special Exception to wave the public street. Welcome. Mr. Bullock, thank you very much. The applicant is requesting a category 29 Special Ex special exception to a public street requirement to allow for a private street to serve three properties. The property is in the village of Frytown at 8122 Frytown Road and currently consists of 2A and 2B, 2 lots, which were created through the administrative subdivision in November 2023. applicant would now like to subdivide lot 2B into 2 lots, 2B1 and 2B2, and use and extend the existing private streets so that it would serve a total of 3 lots now. This proposal requires a category 29 as the street will now serve 3 lots rather than just the 2 and the applicant would like it to remain a private street. I'll go into more detail on these later on, but the application also requires two design waivers, one to allow for a private street greater than 700 feet in a service district and a waiver to allow a street slope greater than 10%. As I mentioned, the property is in the village of Prytown, zone village. It is in the Warranton service district with a designated land use of water remediation district. This district was established to resolve potential well water contamination from a historic dry cleaning chemical spill. The Comprehensive Plan also designates this parcel as part of the village of Freitown, which is characterized by its country village atmosphere and charm due to its rambling roads and small houses on large lots. Surrounding properties on Freit-Ton Road are residential and zone village and R1 residential, and Warranton Chase neighborhood is a half a mile north, shown in yellow. This shows the requested subdivision and the extension of the existing private street to serve all three proposed lots. The existing street serves two A and two B currently, and there is a house currently under construction on lot two B. The lot 2B. Yes. Are all three of those lots owned by the same person? Yes. The one that is shown in yellow is currently owned by an LLC but that is the same owner as these two lots which which is under her name. The, this shows the subdivision and the extension of the private street. It currently serves 2A and 2B and then the house that's under construction is right here, where it is on proposed lot 2B1. The street is being proposed to be extended to serve a lot to be two and it would be a total length of 729 feet. That's compared to the only ordinance standard of 700 feet. The cross section of the existing and proposed street is 18 feet wide and one foot shoulders totaling 20 feet wide. Staff has been on a site visit and we've confirmed that condition, the condition of the existing road. Due to the existing topography and the anticipated home elevations, the applicant is requesting that the street slopes are ranging from 2% up to 12%. The street would be inside a 50 foot and gross egress easement and a turnaround is provided at the terminus on want to be too. The applicant is proposing a gravel surface for the entire road. The zoning ordinance requires that the existing private street be evaluated for any necessary improvements as part of this special exception, as I mentioned I've been on site and confirmed that it's in pretty good shape. As I previously mentioned, the applicant is requesting the two design waivers from the ordinance design standards as part of the special exception. A waiver of section 7-302.4 would allow for the private street longer than 700 feet within a service district. The proposed street is 729 feet long due to the location of a lot to be to drain field and the location and size of the required turnaround. The Board of Supervisors must ultimately make the finding that to modify the standard would constitute a hardship not allowing reasonable use of the property and that plausible alternatives have been exhausted or are not feasible. The Planning Commission and making its recommendation should consider if these findings can be made. The waiver of section 7-3 of 5.1 would allow for the requested slopes of up to 12%, which are greater than the 10% allowable in the ordinance. The applicant has indicated that this is necessary due to the steep slopes of the natural topography of the parcel and the elevation of the proposed home sites compared to their drain fields. The Board of Supervisors may make this finding that the reduced construction standard is acceptable but may require that the private street have a 2 inch by 2 minus paved surface course if the slope is greater than 7%. Staff has included that condition requiring a 2 inch by 2 minus surface for the entire length of the street the average slope for the entire length is 7.4%. The commission could remove or revise this condition if you believe the by two minutes surface is not necessary for all of the street or parts of it. The following conditions have been included for your consideration. The private street would serve a maximum of the three lots, which would be deed restricted from accessing fry town road directly. The entrance on fry town must meet the V dot entrance standards. It would meet all zoning ordinance standards design standards except that the standards that are related to the waivers. The street would be limited to the requested length of 729 feet and would not exceed 10% except where the portions of 2B1 would be up to 12%. As I mentioned, staff has included the condition requiring a 2-inch-by-2-minus surface, which the commission could remove or revise. A private-street main-in-s agreement would be required and adequate ingress egress for emergency access would be provided. A construction plan will be required. We've received no letters in public comment. Happy to answer any questions. Question on the increase from 10% slope to 12%. What's the danger as you increase the slope? Is it just run off and wash out? Yeah, I went on site and these are, this is the existing roadway slope that's going down to the house that's under construction. Yeah. So on that lot. Okay. And so this is the existing roadway slope. We estimate that that's about 10 to 12%. It's not, it's being used for construction purposes, so it's hard to tell. Okay. Exactly. Okay. But that's kind of what you're looking at. All right. And in the conditions, is there anything that we need to put in here that the, I know we say it won't exceed 729 feet, but do we need to say that the private street will end cease at the turnaround point? Like is that necessary or generally our special exceptions are in conformance with what's shown on the subject of acceptance plan? Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. I think that's covered. Any other questions to staff? Thank you. Thanks. Moving on. That brings us to special exception for Kinds Road and Application for Category 20 to install a private individualist to its treatment system. Good morning. This property is located at 8323 Kinds Road in the village of double poplars in Lee District. It's just south of Old Auburn Road, south of Warranton. The proposal includes two adjacent properties containing one existing three bedroom helm. The parcel is totaled just over two acres and are under the same ownership. The Arizona R1 and the surrounding properties are zoned R1 in agriculture and have village and agricultural uses. The applicant is requesting a category 20 special exception to allow the installation of a private individual suits treatment system which just charges into an open ditch. The home was built in 1959 and has a septic tank of unknown age and no known drain field. The discharge from the home currently overflows the septic tank onto the ground surface and off the property. The Virginia Department of Health issued an intent to deny a permit for a new conventional onsite system in May of 2024 due to the insufficient area of suitable soil for a drain field on the property. Given the property's location outside of a service district, no public sewer service is available. The proposed system is designed with a treatment capacity of up to 500 gallons per day, meeting a requirement for a three-bedroom home. It will be equipped with component alarms to alert the homeowner of system malfunction. It will be inspected for compliance with effluent limits and undergo all required formal start-up testing during the first six months of operation and ongoing compliance testing thereafter. The applicant has stated that installation will result in an improved groundwater quality and allow the continuation of the existing residential use. Eflon will be treated to near drinking water quality before exiting the property. The treatment process begins with a new 1000 gallon septic holding tank from there. Eflon will pass through an aerobic treatment unit for initial treatment and filtering and then through an ultraviolet disinfection unit to eradicate any remaining bacteria. A pump line will move the treated effluent across the property to a sand filter which provides the same level of treatment as the ATU. The treated effluent will then be released into a minimum 250 foot long engineered discharge ditch which extends to a natural swale at the property line. The downstream path crosses several neighboring properties and generally flows follows the path of Gupton run, a tributary of turkey run. The included conditions require that the two parcels will be consolidated into one part to site plan approval. The system will be designed to discharge an average flow less than or equal to 450 gallons per day to serve a maximum of three bedrooms. The existing septic tank will be in bed abandoned per VDH requirements. All water fixtures including washing machines will be connected to the new system. Also the discharge pack will be located in the minimum of 100 feet from all class 3C wells and will meet all other VDH and DEQ setback requirements. Operation maintenance performance and monitoring of the system will be in accordance with all regulations and a maintenance and monitoring contract will be retained at all times. A water effluent meter and remote telemetry alarm device will be installed on the system. I'm happy to answer any questions. Any questions or staff? I have one. Kristen, the pond that's shown on the aerial photographs is that spring Fed is that a runoff or part of the turkey run? I don't believe it is Spring Fed. Okay. on the aerial photographs. Is that spring fed? Is that a runoff or part of the turkey run? I don't believe it is spring fed. I'm not sure of the origin of that pond. The swale, the upstream path would generally follow, would kind of angle to the south of that pond and head toward Gupton Okay. Generally with these systems, it's considered unlikely that discharge will ever make it to the end of the 250 foot ditch. Okay. And that is another property owners pond. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions or staff? Thank you Okay, and that will bring you to your final public hearing this evening which would be a special exception for great Marsha state an application to amend previously approved category nine special exception allowing class C events Thank you again Several of you have heard this many times before before. Great marshes state is seeking to amend their 2022 approved special exception for class sea events. The property is just over 130 acres located just outside of the Pielton service district. It's zoneed agriculture and a tiny, tiny portion of commercial highway C2 in the corner adjacent to global way. Surrounding properties are also zone to agriculture, RR2, C2, plan residential development, and mixed use beelton. And they include residential, agricultural, commercial, and educational uses. In April 2018, 2019, the Board of Supervisors approved a category nine special exception for class C events and a 3 special permit for a tourist home. The approval included 48 events with a minimum of 24 events not exceeding 100 guests and a maximum of 24 events not exceeding 200 guests. This approval expired April 2022. I would note the Planning Commission's recommendation with that original special exception included a maximum of 24 events and a maximum of 200 guests. In October 2022, the Board approved a subsequent category 9 special exception for class events in a category 3 special permit for a tourist home. This was consistent with the 2019 approval that were no changes to the frequency of events or attendance. The applicant has requested to increase the number of events to 60 events per year, excuse me, with a maximum of 36 events having an attendance of 200 guests, as well as allowing four events on Fridays with a maximum of 200 guests, with the previous approval all events over 100 people were to be on Saturdays only. They've also requested granting the approval for 15 years and they have removed the tourist home from the application. The applicant's justification was their original application requested 55 events with a maximum attendance of 200 guests and they believe this will enhance the use of the property by giving them the opportunity to host additional events. The included conditions for your consideration, the maximum of 60 events per year with a minimum of 24 events not to exceed 100 guests a maximum of 36 events not to exceed 200 guests events with more than 100 guests are limited to Saturdays with four events permitted on Fridays no more than two events per week and only one event per week with more than 100 guests those last two are new from the previous approval that's based on the septic, or septic permit that was provided following their last approval and the dosage based on that to ensure that they are not exceeding that capacity. We did not receive any additional information on their septic system with this increased number of events, so we have included those to catch that. No overnight stays on the property with the removal of the tourist home. An emergency plan shall be submitted for review and approval by the Fire Marshal annually. The use shall be valid for five years with the option for two five year administrative renewals so that does give the 15 years but does give administrative checkup at those five year marks. And then the other previous conditions have all carried forward. I'm happy to answer any questions. Any questions, just to add? Have they corrected their previous situations? At the time it got out of the board in 2022, they had their certificate of occup their land is serving permit Everything was in line and all site improvements were completed and we're no longer doing pump and haul or Okay Mr. Chairman Miss Marshall I'm look at proposed condition three, please. Three C events more than 100 guess should be limited to Saturdays and a maximum of four on Fridays. So four 100 person events can happen on Friday? Not on one Friday. They could have four Friday events with up to two. In whole year. In the whole year. Okay and we might want to reword. I mean reword it. Yeah sorry I found that. I didn't understand it say that. Maybe one person in the room that didn't get it but that's it. Mayor to have the same question when she reviewed it so. Okay. It's like law school training. I'm afraid. We can certainly rework that. Depending on the public here tonight, I'm generally in favor with the request to increase the number of events, but I'm not in favor of bringing approval for 15 years. I've preferred to do it in five years. So no administrative renewals. I'm not in favor of the public here tonight. I'm generally in favor with the request to increase the number of events, but I'm not in favor of bringing approval for 15 years, I prefer to do it in five years. So no administrative renewals. Right now is this. The way it's written right now would be five years with two administrative renewals for another five years. So five years from now. Oh, and then five years, okay. Five years each, yes. I'm okay with leaving it. Okay. But so whenever the next time comes up, I guess which would be after this vote, right? 2020. What are we? 2030. They'd have to come back for an administrative renewal. And then your compliance with conditions would be confirmed. And if they are in compliance, then an administrative renewal could be granted until 2035 and then same thing again until 2040 and 2040 they would come back through the process again. I would recommend that. That is if they are in compliance and they have no complaints. Yes sir. Okay. And we have not received any public comment on this application And do we need to put any I don't know I didn't get that far down, but do no cooking events okay Okay, we have the no Cooking on site got it Does that also include, like, have like a barbecue pit master like I mean that condition no cooking for a venture occur within the event facility or the main house unless a commercial kitchen is provided but that's just I would defer to the zoning administrator on a barbecue pit. That's the talking about commercial kitchen that would not apply to a barbecue pit. But whatever they were serving would have to meet health department requirements to serving any kind of foods that have to get health department permit. So if you don't want them to cook at all on the site, the condition should probably be amended to state that they can't have any kind of cooking. I don't know what is it. I mean, I would feel comfortable with that, but I don't feel it's in here. I was reading something. You say that you didn't want them to cook hot dogs or hamburgers? Is that right? Well, I don't want an outdoor kitchen or setup or a kitchen like in one of the accessory buildings set up. Yeah, for events. I'm OK if you want to just clarify it. Can we? If they had a barbecue pit and wanted to cook some hamburger that I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to that. So do you not want food trucks or anything like that allowed because it's a no cooking on the property would preclude that? No, I think more along the lines of like an accessory kitchen setup is what I'm thinking of. I think we hear your concern. Okay. Well food trucks would require a permit also. Yes. Yes. Yes. And that I get that. Okay. And just to clarify Ms. Ropens' question earlier, all conditions have been met on the previous one and they report all of their events to the zoning administrator As far as we are aware they're reporting all events Okay Very good One other question for the increase Bless you, excuse me for the increase in people is there a newly revised emergency plan because the number is swelling? Is there a new emergency plan for these events required? They will be required to provide an emergency plan and it shall be updated annually and reviewed by the farmers. Okay, thank you. Any further questions? I think this is probably the report that just missed. Did I understand that the septic system doesn't handle the extra people? Okay. Anything else? Thank you. This morning. Moving on. Okay. That brings us to the introduction to the Remington Data Center applications. Also known as the CACO element. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This will likely be before you all next month as a public hearing item. So we wanted to give you all a chance to preview the applications Ask any questions of staff so feel free to interrupt me as we go along and then also this obviously is available for the public to view and see so they can get an introduction as well And the total property is just over 200 acres. It's six individual parcels Okay, don't lucky Hill Road in the southern part of Remington between Old Grest Hill Road and Strode's Mill Road. It is vacant with two years ago. There's a 500 KVU line that runs through the property as well as a 230 KV transmission line through the property. Both of these lines run through the property. Correct sir. Okay. 500 KV runs this way and the 230 runs along this edge of the property line. Okay. Property is in the Remington service district of 150, about 156 acres of the property is in the Remington service district and the remaining 46 acres is in the rural lands portion outside of the service district. The entirety of the property is zone R1 today. This little context of what's around, these map is color coded. So one is the subject property, which we'll be considering next month. Trickly across Lucky Hill Road is the Remington Technology Park number two on the map. It has been approved, but not yet constructed just north of the Remington Technology is another data center proposal. Samx data centers it's in review for staff and be coming to you all likely later this year. Number four is the convergent technology park that was a rezoning that was submitted several years ago. Did not make it all the way through the process is in for review review now. It's a very similar application, what was previously submitted. It will be before you all later this summer, maybe as early as next month for an introduction. And then also in the vicinity are several different utility infrastructure projects. Number five is the remit and solar facility that's existing. Number six is the Beelts and Solar Center, which was approved and jaded by the board of this year, not yet constructed. Number seven is the Remington Peking Plant, which you all have an application next month for a battery storage facility on that property. Number eight is the Marsh Run Peking Plant. Also not shown on here. There is this existing substation in this general area just kind of run out of room on the map. Number nine is the Luxstone facility and number 10 is the Newton Auto Parts salvage yard. Number 11 is the Federal Facility to Work and Training Center. The proposal is for a little over 2 million 2.2 million square foot data center campus seven two-story data center buildings maximum height of 80 feet That is a 65 foot building height with a 15 foot spare bitterscreen wall or several public infrastructure improvements Water tower large rigged facility two wells and four electrical substations To accomplish all this there are several applications that are proposed. Yeah, could you to that please. The four substations and the public water infrastructure is it within the 166 acres or is it in, is it outside of the service district? Service district line. One's certainly right about here. Okay. So the water tower is in, this substation is in, this one, I believe is entirely in, these two straddle and the wells and treatment are outside the service system. So two substations right side and the well and water treatment is treatment is outside. And the water tower would be inside and the water tower would be inside. Okay. So there are several applications that will be needed to accomplish this vision that the applicant has. First is a comprehensive plan amendment to chapter 6, the built-in-a-remington service sister. is to change the land use within. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. What is that little like kick out piece on the property that one odd shaped, that? The tongue? Yeah, the tongue, thank you. Yeah. That is a piece of property, the applicant's acquired as a part of this. It be used for emergency access Where does it dump to where does it? Onto strode smill road which is here So there's might be a better map later, but this is lucky Hill Road here. Yeah Actually old grassdale is the road that's there on that side. Okay. And then on this side is Strode's Mill Road. It borders Strode's Mill, but then the piece has been acquired. Or has been acquired? It has, yes. It has been acquired to dump out on old grassdale. Correct. Some earlier iterations had some of the substations on that portion of the property. to narrow to too narrow to accommodate those so they have redesigned it. But they had already acquired the property and continued to include it as part of the application. But it's not the power corridor does cross it or doesn't? It does. The power corridor, the 230 KV runs this way, across the diagonally, over towards that substation, which is just off the map. And then the 500 runs basically this way, north, across through the RIM2 technology part properties. And so the purpose of that part of the parcel is only for an emergency egress? At this point, yes. Okay. And the water tower is going to be a how far from being underneath of the file heard KV. The water tower is there and this is the 500 plan, change the land use designation of the portion with inside the service district from low density residential one to three units per acre to light industrial employment center and proposals also to designate the locations of those public utility sites. They're also requesting to rezone the entire 202 acres from R1 to the business park with Prophers. There's a category 20 special exception associated with the project. It would be to allow the above groundwater storage facility to allow the above groundwater treatment system and to allow the four electrical substations. And then the last would be a waiver to allow access on the higher standard road, which would be Lucky Hill Road, which is there would be one of the primary accesses to the project. Looking at the Remington service district, approximately 848 acres of the service district in total has a industrial land use. It's about 35.7%. It's pretty evenly split between industrial and light industrial employment center. 40% of the service district is planned for residential. Most all of this is low-density residential. There was a little bit of high-d a little bit of medium density residential Another 20% is open space Some of this is park some of this is floodplain another open space plans within the service district and there is about 62 acres of civic uses in the service district Now these the current uses are the current zoning. This is the current service district land use Please. Help me understand what you're saying. That's the land use has designated in the comp plan. Today. What are the current uses of the land that we're talking about? Subject property? It's vacant. No, in these areas. So how much of the current property is of the industrial 848 acres is actually being used in industrial? I don't have that updated calculation. I did it several years ago when the convergent application was through and beginning I have not gone through to update to see. Okay. I'm sorry. When you started I misunderstood you and I thought you were saying these were the current uses of the land within the service district. And what you're saying is that these are the planned uses. This is the land use designation. Which is the same thing. Yes, within the service district. That's the planned use according to the comp plan. Thank you. As it is today. Thank you. So, you can see on the map, the pink area has shifted a little bit to the south. That's the proposed land use designations. And it's a change that 156 acres from residential to light industrial employment center. This represents about 6.6% of the total service district area, which would change the mix from would now have 42% of industrial lands in the service district and about 35% residential. And as part of your all's valuation is that an appropriate mix of land in Remington and is that appropriate mix of land considering the rest of the service districts in the county. Just would note there is another application depending which would take just under 4% of the lands from residential to light industrial as well. Light industrial land use is intended for business parks and campus town industrial development with it which are with our appropriate with careful buffering. It doesn't say appropriate uses could include wholesale operations, transportation infrastructure firms, call centers or or data centers. The next part of the comprehensive plan amendment is to designate those locations for the four sub stations shown by the yellow stars, water storage facility, which is in the blue kind of cylinder, the two wells which are in the southern part of the property and the water treatment plant. This is because the code of Virginia requires these facilities to be shown on the comp plan or you all will need to go through a comprehensive compliance review. The code only gives you all 60 days to act on the comprehensive compliance review. So we didn't need to want to go through this twice or force an action before it was necessary the easiest course of action was to designate these on the comprehensive plan as a part of the amendment should it be approved. So for everybody's information at them, the area that the two substations are in and the water treatment plant are in. It is zoned R.A. I mean R1 today as we speak. Correct. All right. And for them to be placed there, that zoning would need to be changed to. They are requesting it to be changed to business park as well as the rest of the property. There is a standard in the special exceptions for category 20 uses, the public utilities, that you all would need to make a filing or ultimately the board that there is no better location on industrialized property. On staff's mind, that would be very difficult to do when the same property is owned industrial but it does not actually mention service districts. So what the applicants have chosen to do is keep the service district line where it is, reason on the entirety of the property to an industrial category, business park, and locate some of the utilities outside the service district in some way then. And with an SE, then we would be allowed to have two substations in order to be put outside of the service district. Correct. With an SE. Yes. OK. Did everybody understand that question? I'm not sure. I think I did. There are four substations. Yes. Proposed. And two of them would be outside of the service system. Correct. And the back and forth between the two of you says that, I am. Mine is on, right? Mine. I just turn mine on. OK. He frowns at me a lot. I can't see him. Yeah. OK. So the two of the four proposed substations are outside of the service district. Correct. And the water treatment plant? Yes. And they also are outside of the zoning district that allows, and the four substations, trust goes. That R1, the current zoning, would allow for a substation or any of the other utilities with an SC. Just like the business park requires the SC, the catch is one of the standards is the board would need to find that there is no more appropriate location with an industrial zoning and in staff's mind when 10 feet away is Industrial zone land that may be very difficult finding to make So we presented that concern to the applicant they had revised the proposal to rezone the entire of the property to the business park district which does require the data center portions to be in the service district, but not the other uses. Okay. Her question may have gotten me confused. So with an SE, it can be changed for this use, and you would change the zoning on the entire parcel to BP. The SC is required in the zoning district. Right, okay. If it's not in a commercial or industrial district, the finding that there is no better suit of location needs to be made. So we had suggested from staff perspective, maybe very difficult to make that finding when you're rezoning portions of the property to an industrial district. So the applicant's response was, well, you can rezone the whole property. So that's what you will be considering. So you would rezone it instead of trying to move the service district line, you would rezone it to be able to meet that use. Correct. Got it. I couldn't be way off and I probably am, but I thought typically when there was a data center that went in somewhere, there was just one substation associated with it. Is that generally correct or not, Ordina? It's based on the total square footage and the power around. What we had told, we're told by somebody that don't know if it's still correct was basically every Million square feet needs of data a substance dedicated substation We are hearing that the AI Boom is causing the need for more power Seems excessive to me, but I don't know I just want to is or any of the conditions, I'd have to go. We don't have any conditions proposed at this time. That's right. What a condition be that any power from all power from the substation goes just for this complex and is not allowed to go anywhere else. I don't think we have the ability to regulate that. No. Well, that'd be a problem. If that's not something that we can regulate, that's kind of a problem. Just because you'll have more lines in and out, possible, I don't know, we'd have something we'd have to look into. Are we able to regulate that they can't have forces up stations, they can only have two, if it's 2 million feet of? You certainly could recommend a condition that would limit the number of substations to two. The question that Mr. Smith just asked is made goes to a question that I've wondered about for a long time. When someone proffers or there's a condition or zoning requirement that the lines be underground. Do you get that? Do the State Corporation Commission have to approve that? The way we have described it is from the overhead lines. There's a drop and it needs to go basically as quickly as possible from the overhead lines to the substation. Then there from the substation everything would be underground. And that's a land use requirement of the zoning ordinance which these applicants have proper to also comply with. And can we enforce that proper? We have been told we can. We have had this. It's told by whom. The previous county attorney. We've had these conversations several times. Mostly regarding the data center application that was pending last year. So we believe we can enforce it, but the rubber hadn't hit the road on that. We have not been challenged or asked to do an official determination. And to go back to the substation issue, in order to have the special exception, be approved for those two additional ones that are not in the industrial land now. The board would have to make a finding that there's no more appropriate place that is zoned industrially. And that's why they're asking to rezone rather than putting the substations on the already industrial zone land. Yes, none of the land is own industrial. That's what I meant. But I mean, I'm sorry. Within the service district. So what's there? Okay. So what, so there's conclusion of that was to say let's, let's, let's rezone all of it, not just a portion of it. Well, so I'm, I'm going to go out on a limb here But I'm thinking that if all the substations were to go on the hundred to sixty six acres Then it would lessen the number of data centers Yeah, very simply That is these two substations could be pushed there's only so much space right right right these two substations could be pushed. There's only so much space right right right. These two substations could be pushed to the north. You would lose one maybe two buildings, which could turn the number of substations needed to three, but this is what this seven proposed now and it could possibly not get down to five or four. And if it knocked it down to five or four, maybe it would need four. Maybe you don't need three. But this is what's been submitted. Did I fall off the limb? No, you're holding on good. So we covered the rezoning, rezoning the entirety of the property and then all of the special exceptions for the, got a little lost here. So rezoning the entirety property, 156 acres again within the service district would have that new land use designation that would be used for the data centers, the water tower and the substations, 46 acres outside the service district, continue to have a rural land use, use for wells, water treatment plants, and the electrical substations. Got it. Adam, do we have a rendering of the water treatment facility? Not a rendering, there is some elevations later in the report of the, it's a small building, typically concrete pre-fab building that's dropped off and contains interior electrical and treatment equipment and it's usually not very big. Do we have any measurements on it? Not in this information I could could probably extrapolate it from the materials, but I have not done that yet. Okay. While we are on the order treatment facility, or maybe you are going to get to the order usage in a little bit, are you heading there? I'm happy to answer the question of what's on your mind. I don't want to put you out on it, either. So the story is they're going to bring in outside water to fill their facility to start with. It's not so far right. For the cooling equipment, yes. For the cooling. All right. water treatment plant is for the cooling. All right. And the water treatment plant is for the use of the seven data centers. Correct. Bathrooms, kitchens, whatever it might be. That's right. There are. No, not cooling. No. No, just domestic uses within the structures. is no public water available at the property today. So the choice is wait and who knows when or what would that would happen or provide a public utility, which the applicants have chosen to do. And is this public utility that they're going to create? Is it going to be tied to WSA water system? Yes it's going to be. So what they're proposing to do is they'll finish the construction of the wells, the water treatment plant, and the water tower. That will be then all transferred to WSA, also connect to the existing small system in the Meadows of Remington. All right so town of Remington has their own water system. Yes. Okay. WSA, it splasks water to the rest of the county and on the town of Orton, but whatever that is. So it's going to be tied to WSA, not to Remington water system. Yeah, I think it's, um, maybe Remington Road is the split, generally, between, basically, Town of Remington covers the northern half of the service district WSA colors the southern half. Okay. All right. All right moving along Again, just the quick summary of the project that seven data sword buildings they range from just over 220 thousand square feet Which would be about 220 by 510 feet and dimensionally, just over 480,000 square feet, which would be approximately 220 feet by 1100 feet, excuse me. They have committed to having a tax paying end user or paying taxes in lieu of a tax paying end user. Maximight would be 80 80 feet, that's a 65 to the building, with another 15 foot per foot screen wall. Proposing 125 foot setbacks along the three streets, and then another 100 feet on the side and rear of the property. Adam, does this at any point border, that it doesn't border any railroad tracks? Correct. It doesn't. Okay. Okay. But the one across the road from it does. And the sandless will. Yes. We covered this a little bit, but the public water and sewer infrastructure, so that will connect to the existing water and sewer systems through new wells. There was a hydrogeostudy performed on those two wells, both the county and the water and sewer authority have reviewed that and prove that there would be no impacts to the surrounding properties or wells. One quick question. The connection to the public water and the connection to the public water will only be for fire suppression That's why the tower needs to be so big is to get fire suppression But the bathrooms Any kitchenettes office spaces with water fountains within the data center buildings We'll tie into the public water the cooling cooling will be a separate. Okay, that's what I, so public water, no for cooling. Correct. Only for water fountains, kitchen sinks, what have you? And the fire protection. Fire protection. Fire protection. And fire protection. The ordinance is very clear on that. And then the applicant's proper statement replicates that as well. Thank you. What's the elevation of the water tower? Did I miss the total height? 117 feet. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. And it is positioned basically at the highest point of the property by design. By design. Right. And then the new water treatment system, applicant estimates that, and die in the elevations for the plant, maybe are shown on the screen, maybe a little hard to read, but that's what's being proposed. Estimates that the treatment system will be between $3 and $6 million of value. The new water tower would be 500,000 gallon volume, 111 foot height. That will provide portable water and fire protection to the portions of the service district that the Art and Surid Authority will have jurisdiction over. It's estimated that that is a four and a half to five and a half million dollar construction project. All of these facilities will be constructed to the WSA standards and then Transfer to them at no cost. The wells already been dug They have they may need a little bit of improvements to meet all of the do we have a GPM? How many wells are then do we have a GPM on those? There's two wells. We do have a GPM I do not remember the off hand. But WSA has reviewed them and deemed them to be appropriate. Is there anything in this application that if need be in the future they'll drill more wells? Not in this application. Okay. And are the wells inside or outside of the service district? Outside of the service district. Wells are outside of the service district, okay. Related to power infrastructure, we've covered this a little bit, but there will be two substations and two transmission substations. and I'm not quite sure what the difference is, but they are labeled differently on the plan. Each of these is proposed to be 300 megawatts each. All new power lines, including transmission lines, substation feed lines, data center building feed lines will be underground. Each data center will be served from two of the substations and alternate feed line from a third substation. In November of, the did submit load letter requested a minion of November 23. It's a little unclear. There's some duplicating information whether that total request was for 600 megawatts or 900 megawatts in June of 24, domain did commit to delivering the requested capacity. It's unclear if there'll be any needed upgrades or improvements to the transmission lines. If there will be needed now or in the future. There is a perimeter buffer proposed. Around all the edges it's basically 100 feet. I'm sorry before you get to the, go back to the Dominion commitment. There to deliver the requested capacity when. It doesn't seem to be a lifetime. Well, they, I mean, we know we never know we're not promised tomorrow even, but you know, yeah, after these steps, they go through the more detailed study and commitments to the permitting with the minion, but. So the, so the. In 2020 June 2024, this says, the minion committed to delivering the requested capacity. It didn't say when. No. And does it say whether or not it's with the existing lines? No, it just says, you know, we have received your request and we are committed to providing your power. With no indication whether or not they have to upgrade the lines. Right, no. And does making the commitment to this project in any way draw off power from the service district or surrounding areas? I don't think we know that. Do many looks at the grid as one giant system that kind of rises and floats in it? Yes, they've got it all listically, I know. So, but now we don't have that information. Okay. And just again, the substations are meant to then step down from the big, big transmission lines. From the 230 line. And then, and then, provide power to these facilities that they want to build. Correct. And what diminuted and what tell you is they also go to the, you know, the surrounding areas as well. Of course they'll tell us that. And how noisy are those things? I don't know. We have reviewed other substations. You all have as well an unissue issue with data centers. It's not been a concern. They have, in this instance, opposed them to be surrounded by a mason wall and then there's the buffers And are they feeding the seven data centers off the 230 line of the 500k bee line the 230 the 230 And you said you we did not know the difference between a substation and a substation transmission station. Is that right? That's right. That's the way they're labeled on the plan. It's unclear if it's intentional, if it is intentional, what the difference is, or if it's unintentional. Why are the different sizes? Like substation C and D are, to be equally of the same size. But then, Lord, so I thought it was me for a minute. The person in the corner frowned. But then substation A, and whatever this transmission substation station is, is their substation A is considerably larger than the machine. Yes. If I can read from Google, this says, and just that Google's correct, this substation uses large transformers to convert or step up the generators voltage. You should only have just for long distance transmission. So it sounds like to me that those are the step up and step down areas to get from the voltage line. And I'm just guessing based on what Google says. Can you read that again? Sorry. It uses large transformers the vert or step up the generator voltage. So we've talked before in some of these when you come off the transmission line that they can't go directly to, they have to step up and down. So I think that area is the area reserved for the step up and down based on what I'm reading. Just we can get more clarification on the applicant on that, but that's what it sounds like. Okay. Yeah, I just would be curious why they aren't all thank you. Why they aren't all the same size. We don't have that map but that's what it sounds like. Okay. Yeah I just would be curious why they aren't all thank you why they aren't all the same size. We don't have that detail. Okay. Continue. Related to buffering the permanent buffers are almost all the same along the the, they are a hundred foot buffer, it's a ten foot street trip with a strip with four large, situaties, trees every 100 feet along Lucky Hill Ward, frontage only, there will be a 5 foot sidewalk, then there will be a 35 foot to 40 foot pollinator meadow, which also could contain utility infrastructure, underground power lines most likely. it will have shrubs at 50 feet per, 50 shrubs per 100 feet. A long, lucky hill road only behind that will be a three board black farm fence. Then behind that would be a 20 foot planting strip with deciduous trees, both large and medium size and shrubs. And then behind that would be the evergreen screen of 12 trees per 100 feet of 30 30 foot wide and then behind that would be any of the Associate Development at the well-laid area This a little bit pinch based on where the wells were drilled so they're proposing a 45 foot evergreen screen with 15 evergreen trees per foot in that location Adam back back to the picture with the substations. Where you have a substation A and B in a yellow line and a line going off it with an arrow and an arrow off the C and D. What's the arrows indicate? It's trying to reference the area, the image above it. So this is pointing this one up there. Oh, actually up into the upper picture. I'm sorry that area is that area and then okay That area is right and lucky Hill Road is at the bottom of the After the plan view and also just Below the buildings on the very top of the picture. Yeah, on the next picture down, Lucky Hill Road is at the bottom, correct? No, Lucky Hill Road is covered by the graphic. So, Lucky Hill Road is here. Okay. These are the substations. So, we have a stone order retention ponds out next to the road. Correct. Two storm water ponds. Generally the site slopes up at about maybe 4% from Lucky Hill Road to here which is the high point. There's a ridge which is probably an exaggeration, but we will use it as a TZ. Then it slips down at about six or seven percent. And actually the elevations along this side of the property in Lucky Hill Road side are almost identical. So it's about 300 feet 310 along the front back of the property and then up to about 360. Okay.. Thank you. Adam, as we were talking about earlier, we were talking about earlier about the power lines and how they step down or possibly step up from the substations. As everybody, most people know that southern Falkier is extremely, now maybe that concern, but other issues were concerned about transmission lines, because we've got stuck with having a bunch of them down in the Southern Falkier. And as I said, that's why we're getting all these applications. So I don't want to know more about if we can somehow figure out how substation A, B, C, and D would could possibly lead to more transmission lines or bigger transmission lines in the future if there's any way that we can find out. I mean the the bristers sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. has been asked several times by members of the community, members of the board, and never give the answer. Not to anybody's satisfaction. So we're gonna see the Marsville substation expansion correct, but we won't will we see the Expansion of the land from Marsville to bristars. No, we will not we will not see that there is a presentation that was given by Dominion to the board last week. So that's available for anybody to watch on the board's agenda. And then there was an open house to Stablee. Toe-Stee. Yeah, in Marlore, Australia. And the Bristras is referenced in that presentation, right? Yes. And Marsfield. what we're told is another 230 line would run between the two substations. And then there would be improvements from Bristersburg, North Interprince William. And admittedly, this is very complicated because it's continuously to be changing primarily due to our neighbors to the North and East who have Proof several of these similar projects and continue to do so Yeah, and then just to I think everybody's most everybody is on the same page We don't want to be like Prince William or Our loud and so we want to limit these and we want to make sure that anything that we do approve doesn't have unintended consequences so we just have to be careful. Sorry to make a jump around Adam. This introduction is a lot swallow. That's why we tried to schedule before the public hearing so we could get some of this out there and work on it if you all had questions. There are some design properties related to the building. On the principal, building façades, those visible from Lucky Hill Road, changes in height, changes in the front stepbacks, requirements for fenestration, and then requirements on two different materials for the use. There are also commitments to entryway design elements, commitments to natural color tones, using a minimum of two and no more than four. The security fencing would be behind the buffers, and limiting lighting both parking lot and building mountain lighting to a maximum of 15 foot heights. There were some commitments related to noise, 65 DBA at the property line between 7 and 8 and 60 between 8 p.m. and 7 a.m. They have requested to limit the generator testing between 8 a.m. and 7 p.m. Monday through Friday. We've also offered a sound study for each building within six months of occupancy and committed to doing a maximum of three sound noise measurements per year when each building becomes fully operational or at the county's request. I have some questions. Mr. Chairman, but that's all right. How many generators are we talking about? And when will we know? You may never know. The information will be provided at the site plan. When the zoning staff is reviewing that, but the applicant could provide an estimate at this time, but we don't have that information. Now, piggyback that is home. The two peaking plants that are in Laquodilla, one of them belongs to the Beniovegenia and the Belongs to Odec. Each one of those plants, if I remember right, are limited to 500 tons of nitrogen oxide annually, if my memory serves me correctly. I'd like to know what annually the total number of generators will produce. Yeah, we don't have that information or even I guess at this point so it goes. Communitively, the two plants are allowed to produce 1,000 tons of nitric oxide annually. So I want to know what we're looking at as far as air pollution from the number of generators that are proposed for this facility. That's important. Is that something we can know before we're asked to act on the comp plan and rezoning applications. The applicants are present. They've heard your request. If they certainly, if you all need more information, you need to ask for it. Or obviously lack of information needed could influence your recommendation. Is it all right just to ask them to speak to us about that right now? No, you know you're opening up. We're going to have a ton of questions. You can send us something in writing that says, how many? It's staff. It's staff. And I would, as a member of the commission would like to get a copy of it, please. We'll staff will get it to us. However you want to hand it on to Mr. Chairman. I want to know how many generators we're talking about. I want to know what in what time frame dominion has promised to deliver this load? I will. Mr. Chairman, is there any questions? And existing. Why? Do they need to be upgraded? Yeah. Okay. That information will be included or if there are uncertainties that will be stated in the staff report whenever this comes to public here And one key what will be in the staff report? You thought what I mean It's you all have stated that you want to know the information so if it's provided to staff it will be included in the staff report. If it's not provided it will be stated that it's unclear. Okay I'd like to have it more than a week before we have to have public hearing. Thank you. And we'll be provided to the commission but it's also available publicly on our websites and anybody who else who them can ask for staff to provide information to you. Okay, great. The other business about, I'm not happy with the proffers about generator testing and the sound study that we have information from one of of the community organizations that makes good suggestions that I suggest the applicant look. Those comments have been provided to the applicant. If the applicant's going to be makinge road will be the only access and old grassed out road to be used for emergency only we did cover this a little bit early earlier the lucky hill road access requires the waiver being this the higher classified street and the way where it can be granted for safety you need to only. The applicant has committed to doing a pre and post-road evaluation which means they will document the conditions of the road with V.O. prior to construction they will then post the bond and complete any improvements if there's damage from the construction equipment. I have a question. Sorry. What is the length of the sidewalk and where exactly does it go to and connect to what? I don't have the quite have the length. I mean, I guess my question is it is another sidewalk to know where? It is for now. Eventually it could connect into greater systems. It would run along the buffer there and then it also portioned that wraps around the backside of the pond. The Meadows, which is subdivision right across the street, has sidewalks and it could tie into that at some point. Or it could be used to get you into the town of Remington if it was connected all the way. But for the sidewalks to connect, they'd have to cross the road. Yes. Got it. Thank you. Often times, in fall here, we have to fill in the gaps, get the teeth instead of fill in the gaps. So, that's how we grow those testers network. And then the applicant is also offering several improvements to the road. This includes expanding Lucky Hole Road to a 24-foot width along the properties frontage, We're going to be in Strodes Mill Road to a-foot width along the properties frontage, improving Strode's mill road to 24-foot width along the properties frontage. We've stated that it will remain gravel during the construction and then convert to pavement pavement. And then Old's Grasdale Road, the same thing along its frontage, which is actually very narrow. We're also committed to doing a TIA with each other site plans. Our Strode's mill anddale both gravel right now, or they have a... They are in their very narrow and with very limited amounts of traffic. Okay. You don't remember the numbers, but it's like hundreds of cars, not thousands. So... Actual grassilled is a dead ends. Two straws, no? No, no. Jody's just dead ends. Okay. Onto whatever. Nothing. There's the foul to the backside of the Odec peaking plant. Okay. It's where dead ends. I'm just wondering if they're paved in the future if that encourages use. and we are doing the r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r use, so it's probably not in its current situation adequate for even the employees daily access. Okay. So that I suggest suggested they will approve it. Payment. By paving Stroath's mill in the future though, does that increase daily trips, does Stroath's mill somehow become a workaround for other, not, I'm not talking about the employees of the facility, but others to utilize. Make it more desirable. The road here comes off Lucky Hill Road goes around to 651, which is somewhere up the road. Thank you, it's cold. It just wraps around the junkyards. So I don't see it being paved. Are they talking about, I didn't see it being paved. Is it talking paved in the whole thing? Just along their frontage, so we'll have to look at it to their emergency access road. Along the entire frontage, so basically from there, from Lucky Ho road to about the junkyard. OK. Mr. Chairman, I'm still trying to learn the lingo. The TIA that goes with each site plan is not related to strokes, right? What is the stand for? The TIA might call it. Traffic impact analysis. Okay. And what that does is prior to the submission county staff, the applicants team and V.STAF determine what the appropriate trips will be, where the council need to be taken, where to travel like we go, and what intersections need to be studied, and then if there are impacts determined how they would be mitigated. Oh, we're out of the book. Related to fire mitigation, the applicant has proffered $2ars for a ladder truck. This is needed to satisfy the fire prevention requirements for the buildings at the heights being requested and then there after the maintenance on a ladder truck Because it doesn't just come ladder truck is Expensive, it's not just a one shot cost. It's ongoing kind Kind of like the refrigerator. When you buy the refrigerator, you've only made the first payment. Then you have your lunch. Saying that getting a ladder truck is lovely, but I know a little bit something about the cost of these things and they're expensive to maintain and keep and then replace. And they do have to be replaced. Which would be the responsibility of the county if this was approved. They have included in the proper that if we have a latter truck otherwise that 2.2 million dollars could be used for any other fire and rescue needs such as the maintenance of a latter truck if it was provided otherwise or potentially the fire station in Mintbrook or any other. But they're required. Someone is requiring ladder truck to be purchased. In the most simple terms, the zoning ordinance allows the additional height with a proper rezoning and then there are several standards that need to be met, which be Analyzed in the staff report, but one of them is that the fire chief determines that they can adequately serve the height being requested Remington no longer has a ladder truck the only ladder truck in the county of mine understanding is at the warrington station So the fire chief has said that they cannot adequately serve the buildings at this height without the ladder truck. So these applicants have profiled that they will provide the ladder truck. And then if for some reason we have a ladder truck before they're ready to need it, it would just let the fire and rescue service use that money else otherwise. And as was revealed this week, Town of Warranton is proposing to cut emergency services so. Can you get a two-story data center in with less height, so 65 plus 15? Can you do 50 plus 15? So 65 max? I'm just wondering if they can still fit two stories of servers in there without having to be that tall. This is typically the industry standard the requested height We do have in Bent Hill Project trying to fit them in with the 45 foot height limit so I thought the cat was the one that they were talking about down there I could be wrong I thought it was 65 foot total including the the parapet around the top but that's just something we will have to look into because one of the one of the things that makes these things to jump out at you when you're driving down the road is the height or the magnitude of them, so if they could be scaled down but still meet their two story requirement to something that they should consider. My memory is that Calo is requesting the same, but they didn't actually ever specify the maximum height of the parapet wall or the screen wall. So we have from a staff perspective, encouraged staff accounts to include that. So that it was very clear to you all what you're being asked to opine on. And then also if this was approved that the Zoning Administrator had very clear indication that it's where the top of the, the roof of the building would be, then where any parapherner screen walls above the roof would be, and then it's easy for she to make that determination as to, we've met the professor we've not. And then the height of the air condition is on top to, but anyway. Okay. I had similar questions because 85 feet is a lot more than two stories if you are thinking two story house. So I noticed there, the one where they had the document that has the line of sight views, they show a two story house with a peaked roof and the data center superimposed. It only comes up about halfway over the second story, which is that's not 85 feet. And some of these renderings with the water tower, it makes it look like a little teeny data center, but it's not. It's 85 feet tall. Well, the one you were talking about, it was way off in the distance. I think, I think that's why I could be wrong. For reference, the maximum height in the district, the BP district is 45. So they're asking for 25, 20 feet over the district height plus an additional height for their screening walls and things. Thank you. I'm Ken Daniel and I'm pleased. Epicants are also offering 50 cents per square foot to the Parks and Rec Department for Heritage Resources or Recreational Improvements, the Town of Remington and Recreational Improvements, and a $500,000 donation to the Meadows HOA. And you all have seen these so I'll be quick. These are some visual rounderings that the applicant has prepared. This is basically the Northern property limits looking southward along the El Road. This is at Strøds Mill Road looking north at the property. And this is at the back corner where Strøds Mill Road near the junkyard would be looking north towards the property and towards Lucky Hill Road. And then this is just an overall rendering showing the area with the site plan superimposed on top. And that was the end of my presentation. I know you all have asked questions as we've gone through, but certainly able to answer to you others. Is the Remington Auto Parts, is the junkyard, is that, does that also straddle the service district? No, it's in the service district. It is in the service district. I think the Remington matter of meadows doesn't have HOA, so they'd have to figure out some way to get them the $500,000 without them. From what I hear, some don't want to HOA, and I wouldn't either if I lived there. So they'd have to figure out a legal way to get them to $500,000 without going through a H.O.A. It would be required to have a H.O.A. for maintaining the community spaces and the storm order. So if there's not one actively, they would have to demonstrate that with the future phases. Oh, they're talking about the dorm future phases. There's 50 lots are so left to be constructed there. Any other questions? Yes, sir. We know technology changes a lot and frequently and what if you talked about it, I missed it. What are they committing to in terms of decommissioning? There is no commitments. Okay, well let's have one. I mean, we require people to bond for certain things in other zoning situations. And certainly they ought to have a, we ought to have an understanding as a community what's going on in all these buildings and substations and all that stuff when they're not needed anymore. Condos. Who knows? Condos. Right, sure. I guess the repurposed. I don't know that they'd be torn down. Well, that doesn't necessarily mean, decommissioning doesn't necessarily mean tearing it down, but what's the plan? As drafted, this rezoning would not allow for alternative use should the data center. Exactly, exactly. No, the proff profits and the permits that they would get, if they got any, would be for these uses. What's the plan when these uses aren't needed anymore? Which I'm just guessing they're going to come fairly soon. Amazon warehouse, I just can't. Exactly. Well, coming from the Midwest and seeing hulking abandoned decrepit, decaying industrial manufacturing facilities that just year after year collapse upon on themselves. Yeah, I mean, it's a good point. Georgia, what does happen to them when they're no longer needed? And I know it's something that the larger community is very concerned about. I mean, when I'm in the car with people going down 66 and they say, what are these going to be, you know, I mean, going through, it's a top of mind question for a lot of people who live in this area. What are these going to be a few years from now? And I think that people who are asking us to give them permission to put this kind of thing in our community owe it to us to tell us what they think is a reasonable plan for after they're native if they are at all for data centers. Thank you. Adam, thank you. I have one more question. Yes. If we had any study done at this point to see if there are any historic sites or archaeological features that would need to be preserved? Not to satisfaction, there has been a desktop analysis and a walkover, and that did not identify, identified the sites obviously from the desktop in the region, a profford that they will do a phase one study which would do the shovel tests to fully understand if there are any impacts. And kind of related to the earlier conversation, the preservation planner has viewed those materials. She has offered suggestions on the appropriate profits. The applicants have incorporated those. But phase one study would identify any, with the idea of avoidance. If an avoidance wasn't a possible, they do the further studies phase two and ultimately phase three, which would be the recovery or emittingation. Since the ARB is still in existence at this point, is that something that would go to the ARB or would that be handled by the preservation planner? What would go to the ARB? Looking for a study of any potential sites that might be... Typically would not go to the ARB, we would get as part of our materials, and she would be the chief reviewer as well as whoever the staff lead was on the site plan or the other processes. And the applicant pays for that. Right. It would be done by a consultant. They would submit their information. Our staff would review it, provide any comments through it, and then what was identified if anything would be shown on the site plans and documented appropriately. That would all be handled by our staff. Okay. Thank you. Adam on the old grass-dale road, it looks like there's two private properties that about this property, excluding the Remington substation. So are those just two parcels of land that about that? There are a couple in the area but only one on each side. Okay. They of course will be notified as part of the notification process for the public hearings. I have not spoken to them. I reached out to them. Most of the properties on that side are vacant. And at this time, has there been any indication or hints that there would be an intent to expand, at some point in the future, speaking of future to George's point? Not, I'm aware of. Okay. To answer your question, there is a brand new house that has been built right there. Okay. And I'm thinking about these two. And this is a, this is strobes mill And this is grass the old right here. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, there's yes That's a substation right there and that's a dwelling right there. Yeah There's a dwelling next to the marsh on peaking plant. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. There is. This road right here turns into this property right here. And it also turns into this. That's how you said grass still just dead ends. Yes. Yeah. Yeah You can turn you come through here and you can actually ride down through here into here right through this right here Got it And staff can certainly be available to thank you drive any commissioners around the property or greater Remington as requested Thank you. Drive any commissioners around the property or greater Remington as requested. Thank you, Ed. I'll expect the. Yes, sir. So that brings us to the item on your agenda for comprehensive plan discussion. And my intent for this was to answer commissioner Herbert's question several months ago. And prepping for this yesterday, I did not remember the question. I thought I remembered a different question. But what Georgia asked back in January as if staff could talk about the relationship of the zoning ordinance and the subdivision ordinance to the comp plan. My memory was that it was more of how the comp plan played into your decision making, but in going back and reviewing it, that was the question. So we can talk about that here, and I feel free for the chief of planning and the chief of zoning development services to pipe in. And this may lead to another discussion in the future. But the question of how those two documents relate to the comp plan in my mind, the comp plan includes recommendations on land use, housing, and other areas that are described and enforced by the zoning ordinance and the subdivision ordinance. Without updating the zoning ordinance, planning goals may not be attainable. So when we do these and our comp plan is at a date We are working on updating the various sections But the idea is that when you do The Marshall plan the new Baltimore plan an area plan that is going to Be the communities vision for that area for the next 20 years and include items to implement that vision. And the zoning ordinance and the subdivision ordinance are important to promote and manage growth and help residents and businesses manage expectations. You know, what to expect? Examples that I can think of are Marshall. The Marshall Plan called for Marshall Code, called for a form-based code. And we spent many years working on that form-based code. New Baltimore Plan, the last time we did that, we talked about updating the Plan Development Mixed Use PDMU and PRD Plan Resident residential development, updating those regulations in the zoning ordinance to allow residences over commercial. A lot of our services district plans talk about people friendly environments and so thus the requirements for sidewalks. And all of this staff takes, lays this out for you in your decision making in the staff reports as to the comp plan sections and how that applies to each application as well as his own unit standards. So I think that's big picture answer. I don't know if that helps clear anything. If that sparks a desire for another session or another conversation, if we want to talk more about this. I'm not sure we want to talk a lot more about it right now. We've been here for a while, but the reason I asked that question was that I felt it was important that you and the zoning administrator briefed those of us who are new to the conversation. My understanding has been all along that a zoning decision has to be consistent with the comprehensive plan. And from time to time we're asked to make that determination, you know, with respect to a particular application, the subdivision ordinance let the same, same, I guess, right? Okay, those don't come to us usually, right? They don't come to subdivision. Currently, preliminary plots come to you. Few far between and the code has is changing July 1st and you won't see any of those. But you are right. One of the first standards for a special exception is, is it, one of the general standards, is it in conformance with the the complaint. And if we were asked to open on a proposed change to the zoning ordinance, not in the context of a particular application of a particular land used application, a consideration that we must make, taken to consideration is, is this proposed change to the zoning ordinance consistent with the comprehensive plan? Correct? Okay? Yes, certainly. Okay. And so if it's not then it's legally vulnerable. That would be a question for the county attorney, but I would certainly think so. As for the reason why we have sometimes we have a conference plan compliance review. Exactly. And I mean, but anybody who just drives east of here can see what happened when and some major zoning decisions were determined, ordinances were determined not to be supported by the conflion. Thank you. We've been looking for the last seven of the year. We've discussed the history of home. I think it's the reason you came. Chair, I'm sorry. That's a very warm. Okay. No further discussion there. That brings me to announcements. Last week the board approved the new Baltimore Fire Hall, the discharge system, Ben Hill storage, Spatonis event, and the waiver of luck to allow the back entrance. next month for you all, the waiver of luck to do that. Luckstone asked to waive the requirement for a special exception to amend conditions. I apologize this didn't come to you all. To allow the point one data center to use their back insurance for deliveries for safety reasons. The entrance that they close to build the two peaking plants. Yes, they have done this in the past and they asked again. And that's it, that's right in the curve. Yes. I apologize. That's it. That was on the board to get moved to their consent agenda. And next month for you all, we anticipate the Remington data centers unless they decide to make some changes. Dear Ridge special exception in the Lee District is to waive the public street requirement. Remington battery, battery innery storage in the Lee District. It's a battery storage dominion is requesting. Oak Spring Garden Foundation to allow events, this is in the Marshall district, and then potentially in the lead district is a, weasepassophe, you know, farm LLC, commercial storage and processing of bulk agricultural products to store and deliver horse-bedding materials. We are still vetting through that one, and we will certainly get with you to brief you. And then I did fail to say, but this is in accord with our new processes about announcements regarding meetings, subject to public hearing. You all did get a notice from Ms. Marshall that staff met with the Church of Midland that was emailed to you and so we're disclosing that here so it becomes part of the minutes. That concludes my announcements. Now I believe it's commissioners time. Any commissioner have anything they'd like to share or discuss hearing none? I. I failed to say that next month, please remember our meeting is on Wednesday, instead of Thursday because it's a holiday. Yeah, I have a panic attack about that. And thank Adam. He reminded me twice now to make that announcement, but I'm not failed. Hearing nothing else, we are adjourned. Till this evening. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. So, Paul, that's enough. Thank you ladies and gentlemen.