Is he or there? Yeah, there he is. That's Kim to do that. And then I will do the pledge when he completes For the record. I'm one of the golden boys. It's golden not Gordon. What did I say? Well, I'm sorry. I just had my NASCAR brain going. It's okay Let's pray Gracious and loving God. What a joy it is to be gathered here this evening. We seek your blessing, Lord, on each one of us. We are especially grateful for this commission before us, Lord. You have blessed them with the passion to serve with wisdom and compassion and integrity. And we cannot thank you enough for each one of them for their service and sacrifice to this community. We thank you and ask your deep blessing on each one. And as we gather together on this side of the pulpit, so to speak. We come together tonight with a desire to be heard and to communicate and to work through any challenges that are before us tonight. We ask your blessing on it, on us, and all that is before us. And Lord Jesus, we thank You so much for the opportunity and the ability to gather together in this place this evening. Bless us all. In Your holy name we pray, amen. Amen. America. And he's in three mavelin for which it stands. One nation under God and it is all with liberty and justice for all. Thank you pastor golden. You're welcome. Sorry. Thank you. Okay again welcome everybody tonight and like the last ask our city clerk Linda Buzua to call the roll please. Mayor Fuller here vice mayor Daly here Commissioner Eden here Commissioner Dehrman here Commissioner Malzvi here okay now I'd like to ask city manager and city attorney to make their announcements first of all. I'd like to have City Manager by my level good. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The Heroes and Hot Rods event with a ski show will be this Saturday, September 21st, and that's going to be from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. and not the ski show will be performed by the Cypress Garden ski team. So the show will be at noon. I've been volunteered to be the judge for the car show. So I will be an attendant at 11 a.m. that'll be a lot of fun. Our next city commission meeting we're off of the Thursday schedule and we'll be back to our person third Monday. So our next meeting will be Monday October 7 7th. And that will be right here at 7 p.m. The Lake Alfred Historical Society will host its 30th anniversary reception on Saturday, October 5th. And that will be from 3 to 6 p.m. at the Lake Alfred Historical Society Museum. For those who haven't seen already, we got the new artwork on the walls with various winners. So always good to have some color and some artistic qualities in the city commission room because I have zero unless it's on a spreadsheet. So always good to appreciate art for the hoods they can't create it. Update on all the two, this past week we have the Lake Alfred Discovery Leadership Team. They visited us and said they did a great job with the mock city commission. Vice Mayor Daly's granddaughter was in attendance. And so always kind of one of the most enjoyable meetings I have in the year where we get to give back and present to the students and talk about all sorts of city operations. I always ask every group every year I go who knows who the president is and everybody gets it and then I go who knows who the governor is and you know 90% plus get it and then I go to the next one and I go who's the chairman of the board of county commissioners and 13 12 years running no one's ever got it. So just when we think of government we don't think of local government but as I always tell them you know we always focus on what's going on in Tallahassee or Washington but if you can't back out of your driveway and if water doesn't come out of the faucet and you can't flush your toilet you're gonna know you're gonna think about local government pretty quick and so we provide those services and often when we do our jobs the best we're invisible in the background. And so I'd summarize basically an hour plus presentation to the kids there. And with that no other announcements from Americans. Thank you, sir. And our city attorney, Seth Clayter will now enter into the record. Thank you, Mayor. Only that we remain now enter into the record. Thank you Mayor. Only that we remain grateful to represent the great city of Lake Alfred there. Glad to have you with us. Okay, now we have an opportunity for employee recognition. So if you're item that you would like to visit with about tonight that is not on the agenda, you've got five minutes per person to step up and talk about whatever you would like to talk about or ask questions, make any comments. So is there anything I'd please step up to the podium and see your name and your address, please? Hello, my name is Aaron Nangle. I live at 1440 Melrose Street in the the Lix-2 subdivision leak out there. I just talked to Ryan about this, but I just wanted to make sure everybody knew about it and brought up to everybody's attention, because we have a lot of concern about it. My home sits on a hill that's roughly a 7 feet high. It's overlooking a McCay Gardens Canal and McCay Gardens Preserve. Although we have a spectacular view, my lot and the lots of my immediate neighbors are experiencing fast and severe erosion. There are four completed lots on this hill. Residents from two of the four affected homes have come to speak to you tonight about these concerns. The Boulder Highland Homes has attempted regrading on some of the sites, however regrading has been only a temporary fix. The hill exceeds, excuse me, the hill needs to be stabilized. Our home sit on the hill that appears to be much steeper and taller than the building plans show and our contract show. We believe the angle of repose has been exceeded for the film material used which has caused them fast and severe erosion to our hillside. We are worried that the erosion will continue and cause our hillside to collapse causing us to lose our homes. We believe this additional height which exceeds what was drafted in the building plans and much steep deeper slope is the reason for our problems. It is our opinion that there are several building code violations on these lots. Most concerning for the building code number J107.3 which addresses hillsides taller than 5 feet with more than a 20 degree slope. It has also come to our attention that there are drainage problems at the bottom of our hill. They want to dig deeper at the bottom of the hill to correct a drainage problem. While we understand that the drainage needs to be corrected, we're very concerned and opposed to digging any deeper at the bottom of our hillside until our hillside is stabilized and safe. The builder, Highland Holmes, is continuing to build on the hillside of concern. They are in the process of completing the fifth and final home on the hillside. We might think it'd be best if all building and all digging ceased until the hill is safe, stabilized, and the erosion can be controlled. The erosion is happening fast even on the lots with the stabilized and established grass on the hillside. The two lakes' neighborhood is getting ready for the builder to residents turnover, which we are worried that if left unaddressed the residents of the lakes to work be stuck with a large assessment due to builder errors because of this. So we're already been in touch with several government workers like Alfred. One of the city workers stated that the city of Lake Alfred might be able to keep Highland homes maintenance bond until the issues are satisfactory or addressed. The city workers we've been in touch with have also been very helpful and have promised to look into this more, but we also wanted to bring the issue to the attention of the community and the commissioners, so we hope you can also share this information with anybody who's going to help out so we can get it corrected. And the way I look at it, the final thing is they have the equipment, they have the stuff there to do it now, but when it turns over and they run away, they won't be there anymore. Do it so easy. Thank you. Thank you. And just for the benefit of the commission and the public, I spoke with Mr. Angle this morning. And so staff had brought it to my attention earlier in the week. So we've got the inspector and the city engineer out there assessing the situation. I don't know if they need to put in a retaining wall or something to that effect, but our engineer will kind of draft up a report as to what needs to happen and then the building official would evaluate if anything needed to stop work. But we can probably just work with them on a solution. The concern that the resident has and as well as myself from staff is that they just keep re-grading it. Oh, let's throw some more dirt out there to make it work. Well, you know, that'll kind of keep it. That would just be like a bandaid on it. And then the next time there's a major rain event or whatever, it'll wash out. And then again, the contractor potentially would be long gone. So that's really the concern there. So we're aware of that. And I've seen these types of issues before. So the engineer is on top of it, as well as the building official. I'll keep the residents updated. I've got Mr. Negles contact info, and I'll keep the commission updated as well. And they did also point out that there's two trains, on the hill right now. And they've already pointed out that both the drains are done wrong. One of them's not draining the way it's supposed to. The other one has a long standing water in it, where there's nowhere for it to drain out to, because it's so low down into the ground already. So I mean, it's just got to be redone and redone right, and somebody mentioned retaining wall. If you really look into the options and the things they can do to fix it, that would be the most cost effective easy way for them to fix it. That's just my opinion. Thank you. Can you tell me the hill on the side where you are to the north of the bridge, is it steeper and higher than all the homes that are on the side? I'm glad you asked that question. Now if you look at the other neighborhood, the back houses are so nice and so low. And then you look at it at ours and it's just you're on the hill. My particular house is like the highest point of the five homes and I can't walk down the hill. I can jump down the hill but I can't walk down the hill. And to mow the, well, good luck. I've got to pay somebody to do that. And what do they do? A lot of times they'll take a lawn mower and they'll tie a rope to it and go up and down the hill that way so they can actually do it. Because you can't ride a lawn mower. We try to ride a lawn mower. And the ground's so soft, even. even that's why we're saying it's eroding already and we have grass but it's so soft that we do a riding lawn mower it puts rut in it. My wife tried to walk down it and she put feet feet right in it even. I remember conversation way back when that site plan was made that they might have to put in a retaining wall from the builder. They discussed that at the turn. Yeah and Highlandums has a habit of putting their houses high. We run another plot like form board survey stuff where they try to go higher. There's mentality that higher is better because it helps with the water drain, but in this case, looks like they overdid it. So again, we've got the engineer on it. The city does add a little bit of leverage because, you know, to purge the approved construction plans, they have to maintain the topography of the mass grading plan. So there's a roge in another issue that leads to a systemic issue with them not being able to sustain that. You know, again, I don't want to get into the details, but I would think we would have an enforcement mechanism, hey, you got to maintain this or otherwise submit a modification to correct it. And then we also have the leverage with the maintenance bond. So we don't have to release the maintenance bond until we're satisfied with it. So we've got a couple of levers to pull. So it's good that they're kind of mid-construction and that this has been brought to our attention now versus again six months from now or a year from now when the developer might have been long gone and then really as he suggests that then it really is just the HOA you know left and just inferior options. So we've got a couple handles to pull and I'll work with the engineer to do so and we'll see what we can do to get it corrected. Thank you and I can tell you that all five of the homeowners would agree if they decided to do a retaining wall. Everybody would agree to that. Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it. Thank you Brian. Seems like you're on top of the ready. I tried to be like I said, this is my first rodeo. So they've tried this before. Okay. Is there anybody else that has anything that is not on tonight's agenda? Yes sir. Aaron's next door neighbor. Okay, you've stated your name in 1436, Melrose Street. And your name? Jack Cooper. Jack, okay. I'm the neighbor next door. The pipes that are graining the retention pond to the houses across the street from us. They're four-foot in diameter. They're from us. They're four foot in diameter, they're large pipes or concrete pipes. And they've already had to fill around those pipes. I've only been in the house a little over three months. They've had to bring in a front loader. It's bucket on it's as big as one set of those tables. It's like a three or four yard front loader. They've had to bring that back there twice, is one set of those tables. It's like a three or four yard front loader. They've had to bring that back there twice since I've been there in three and a half months. It keeps the roading down, and some of them eventually will get into the lake. And they are going to have to go down another 18 to 24 inches to get those pipes to fully drain. So it is a real problem. It's just not going to fix itself. And we have agreed that if they want to do a retention wall, they probably have to have tiebacks into the which we go into our lots and we would grant easements to have that happen. Yeah, they can do like those dead man right? Right. Because if you just build it without them, it'll just fold over in time. So we would give em as much to do that. So we're trying to work with them. And I'd like to go to the city staff's been terrific. They just been out there. Whatever they, whatever information we needed from them, we could get it. So. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for the nice compliment on the folks. They do a great job out there thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the nice Complement on the folks they they do a great job out there for you are intent to follow up with you Thank you. Thank you Okay, is there anybody else that has anything they would like to add to this portion of tonight's recognition recognition of citizens? Okay seeing none and I would like to get to employee recognitions. So Chief Bowdenheimer is Anthony here tonight. Chief You see, I see him. I knew him. He didn't see Officer Gettles. I didn't know if he was supposed to be in here either night. Okay. He is working on that. Okay. He is on board to be in the evening. Thank you. All right. Miss Emily, with the short hair. While she's walking up here today, she did a great thing. I don't know if it's today or yesterday, but I know for people that are recovering from cancer or from other things that they have that they lose their hair. She donated that whole back full of hair. So God bless you. Very short. Thank you. I donated mine too. All right. Well, we have Ken Rue here tonight with us. Ken has been here with us in the city for 15 years. She has moved through many positions through at the library. She is determined to make the library a comfortable, organized, and welcoming part of Lake Alfred. She works closely with all of her library assistants to ensure awesome and up-to-date book circulation. Even being one of our smaller libraries in Volkami, we had over 30,000 items of circulation last calendar year. And largely thanks to Kim and her staff for attention to detail and keeping such a close eye on what everyone is reading what they want to read and what's coming out soon what we think people are gonna want to read so a nice art to that So congratulations on achieving this anniversary with us. We know how hard you've worked with us and we truly appreciate all your dedication. So thank you. You want to do it? Oh, okay. Okay. I'm going to keep my hand. She's like, we should be playing with you. What's the name of the flight to New York? Yeah, this one hangover. There you go. We should be out. We are now in New York. We should be out. We should be out. We should be out. We should be out. We should be out. We are now in New York. We should be out. We should be out. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Okay, and John Deaton has got an award to give this evening. All right. John D. Public Works Director. And we're here to present Eddie with his tenure with the city. And for those that don't know, Eddie works on our motor pool and repairs anything from the fire trucks, police cars, work trucks, garbage trucks, which is not his most favorite thing, I'm sure. But it's a very important thing. We try to do as much in-house garbage truck repairs possible and it is responsible for that. Ordering the parts, getting them in here and getting any trucks back growing. It has been with the Motor Pull now for 10 years with us. He did own a business in town, you know, doing the canycork before he came with the city and we was lucky to get him. It's hard to believe it's been 10 years because it seemed like it was just yesterday that I was at his office talking to him about coming to work here. I'd like to thank Eddie for the hard work and service to the City of Lake Alford. And hopefully we will get to do this five years from now and another five years from now. Give this 15-20 years, I don't know how long it will last but that would be great. So congratulations on your 10 years Eddie. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. I'm going to turn you up, Larry. Okay John and you should count on it. Eddie P2. Perfect. That's perfect. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Oh, I want to say I'm so sorry. Yeah, thank you. You're making family up to you. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You're welcome. There's no need to say I'm here. You ready for shoes? That's blue. That's blue. No, we're going to do this. So go. You're going to go to the right at the front. You've got a long time. You're going to go for a second. You're going to see this thing. I know. You're going to see this thing. Okay. Now before we get to our budget items, I have to read something into the record before we address that item. So the state law requires the first substantive, substantive, substantive, they didn't teach me that in NASCAR school. The state law requires the first substantive issue to be discussed at this hearing to be the percentage increase in the millage over the rollback rate and the reasons ad ballarm taxes are being increased. The City of Lake Alfred's proposed operating millage is 6.750 mills, which is 10.69 percent more than the rollback rate of 6.0981 mills. The ad-borem proceeds resulting from the difference between the proposed and the rollback rates will be used to offset the city's increased operating expenses. So to open now for the first two budget items, we have budget item number one is public hearing resolution 23-24 final millage rate and I'm going to ask city attorney seclater to read into the resolution 23-24 into the record place. Thank you mayor. Resolution number 23-24, a resolution of the city commission of the city of Lake Alfred County Florida adopting the final milled rate for the leving of adbalorum taxes within the City of Lake Alfred for the fiscal year 2024-2025. Providing for the administrative correction of Scudernas Air as providing for contemplates, providing for separability and providing for effective date. Whereas on July 22, 2024 pursuant to section 200.0652B of the Florida statutes, the City Commission of the City of Lake Alpert adopted resolution number 21-24, setting the proposed milledrate and setting the date, time and place at which a public hearing would be held to consider the proposed milledrate and tentative budget for the fiscal year 2024-25. And whereas on September 5, 2024 pursuant to section 200.065. The Florida Statute, the City Commission of the City of Lake Alpert, considered and adopted a tentative millage rate of 6.750 mills following a duly-noticed public hearing. Now, therefore be it resolved by the City of the City of Lake Alpert, Florida as follows. Section 1, operations and expenses, city staff has determined that the amount necessary and the City of Lake Alpert Florida for the operation and expenses for the administration of the affairs of the city is the sum of $39,783,106. Section 2, Millage, the City of Lake Alpert's property tax milled rate for the fiscal year 2024-25, shall not exceed 6.750 mills. This is a 10.69 percent increase over the current rollback rate of 6.0981 mills. Section 3 tax levied that there shall be levied and collected by the City of Lake Alfred Forda for the fiscal year 2024-25 upon all non-exempt taxable property within the corporate limits of said city. A tax of 6.750 mills on each dollar of non-exempt appraised value to realize a sum sufficient to fund the budget and meet and afraid the necessary operating expenses of said city for the ensuing fiscal year. Section four administrative correction of script and script and there's errors, the administrative correction of type of graphical and or script and there's errors in this resolution that do not affect the intent may be authorized by the city manager or his designate without the need of consideration for the city commission of the city by filing a correct copy of saying with the city clerk. Section 5 conflicts all resolutions of parts of resolutions and conflict with any of the provisions of this resolution are hereby repealed. Section 6 separately if any section subsection sentence clause phrase of this resolution or the particular application thereof shall be held invalid by any court, administrative agency, or other body with appropriate jurisdiction remaining section subsection sentence clauses or phrases under application shall not be affected thereby the city of Lake Alfred Florida here by declares that it would have passed this resolution and these sections subsection clause or phrase thereup irrespective of the fact that any one or more sections sub section sentences clauses and phrases be declared on constitutional. Section 6 effective date this resolution shall become effective immediately upon passage and adoption in the milled rate of 6.750 mills adopted herein shall be effective October 1, 2024. Introduced and passed at the regular meeting of the Lake Alfred City Commission held this 19th day of September 2024. Now we'd like to hear from City Manager Ryan Levengood to present the analysis please. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Linda is not seeming to transition over as there. Oh wait, I got it. Alright, we're good. It was Rosalind. Haha, the Ibeat 1-0 now it's not. That was our group that came into the... What is this? It's not. That's not moving on the screen. Oh, that is coming out. Hmm. What's going on in the beginning again? Swing show. Over here. I'm not just closing it out, I'm not bringing it back up. I'm trying to get a We got live. All right, we got it. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Over the past several months, the City Commission has been presented with and approved the draft sections of the various funds included in the fiscal year 2425 annual budget to propose 2425 budget assembles the previously approved sections into the final budget with updates from July's experience and contains the final revenue and expenditure projections. The budget balance with the milled rate of 6.750, which is 0.1 mills below the current milled rate of 6.850. The proposed milled rate of 6.75 mills represents a 10.69 percent increase over the calculated rollback rate of 6.0981 mills. I saw a post on Facebook earlier today just was kind of talking about the mill rate and oh my goodness you know taxes are increasing in the city by 30% and you go, okay, well the amount of revenue that we're collecting is increasing by 30%. Just as a reflection of all the new construction, you know, if the city grew 20 or 30%, you would expect the revenue to increase by an equal amount just as a result. So it's not that your individual taxes increase by 30%. You know, the rollback rate makes it a little bit confusing because they always try the state says, well, you got to collect the same amount of dollars that you did the previous year. And so that's kind of where even that 10% comes in. You know, my comment back to the state is, well, do I get to pay last year's bills with last year's dollars too. So let's just keep it going. Let's have a rollback rate on expenses too. Go all the way back to 1990. I'll be happy to take 1990 tax dollars with 1990 prices. So that's why the rollback rate is a bit of a fallacy. Those dollars and cents are needed to keep pace with all of the inflation and the city deals of inflation just as everybody else As a part of the post I'll actually articulated that if you actually look at the tax rate when actually you look at the Definition of tax you know the rate itself is actually gone down So if you look at the history going back to 2006 now Now back in the heyday when it was you know the markets were absolutely boom and the city managed to cut the rate down to you know 6.5 but you can see back all the way back to 2006 the historic rate of the mill was rate in the city. Going back even before that was right at 7.0.5., which is that's kind of where that is right there. You can see that. Then we had the heyday and you can see the taxable value. We went from 143 to 245 in a single year, and that was back during the housing boom. So you can see even as the rate was reduced, we actually collected more revenue. And that goes right back to the valuations. Then we have the great recession. We had to go back to the role upgrade. And you can see here, even though we raised it all the way to 7.5 nils, we were only collecting 965,000. Whereas only a couple years prior, the millage rate was a full mill left, but we were collecting more. So you can see that was kind of how the valuations played out there. Now in normal time after 2012 on, you can see 7.5, the commission reduced it in 20, so the high was 7.5. Then the commission reduced it to 7.4, 7.239. That held study for several years. And then in the last couple, especially as we've started to experience growth, the commission has started reducing the millage rate. So we've reduced it to 6.989. Last year, you all reduced it to 6.85. And this year, you're proposing to reduce it to 6750. So the City Commission and the City is actually lower the millage rate. Actually below now are historic level which was always at 7 and change. So I always like to comment on that and really kind of present it because it gets confusing when you see all the numbers and the ads in the paper and milled raid and valuation change and all of these things. So with that, staff recommendation is to approve resolution 23-24 and staff will be happy to answer any additional questions on this item. Okay, thank you. This is an open meeting to the public and we have an opportunity at this point. If you've got any questions or comments you'd like to make on this item, please come to the podium, state your name and address. Got any questions? Ryan has done a great job explaining it and he's certainly during the time that we had to evaluate all of these, these this year's numbers. It was very, very clear to us how that all works. So we're very lucky to have them and the ability to make this sound a little more understandable. So anybody coming up? Okay. Seeing none, I'd like to ask for city commission comments. The only comment I have again, just echoing, like I said, when you read the first statement, it's like, oh, we're raising rates. No, we're actually decreasing rates. So that's a good thing that we're able to do that. Obviously, property values appreciate over time, which everybody enjoys when they go to sell. But I just appreciate the commission, the city manager, all the staff to be able to do a balanced budget and at the same time slowly chip away and decrease the rate each year. And I can just see since I've been on here for five years, we've been heading that and that trend and hopefully continues going forward. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. Any other comments from the commission. I'd like to ask for a consent. Mr. Mayor, would you like to make a motion that we approve resolution 2324 final millenjray? Okay, we have a first and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, this motion is carried. Now for budget item number two, public hearing ordinance 1546-24, fiscal year 24-25 annual budget. I'd like to turn the city attorney's stuff later to read 1546-24, fiscal year 24-25 annual budget into the record fees. Thank you, Mayor. Or in a number 1546-24, an ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Lake Alford, Florida adopting the annual budget for the City of Lake Alford, Florida for the fiscal year, beginning October 1, 2024 and ending September 30, 2025 with appropriations and allocations of revenue for the fiscal year 2024-2025, providing for the administrative correction of Scrivener's heirs, providing for conflicts, providing for severability, and providing for effective state, whereas pursuant to Section 2.1 of the city charter of the City of Lake Alfred Florida and laws of the state of Florida, a proposed budget of estimated revenues and expenditures and a complete financial plan of all city funds and activities for the fiscal year 2024-2025 has been prepared and reviewed. And whereas the city commission is of the opinion that all of the items of anticipated revenues and expenditures for the set fiscal year are reasonable and proper for the administration of the affairs of the proper conduct of the business of the city of Lake Alfred. And whereas after further review the city commission desire to adopt said budget attached to his exhibit A and incorporated here and by reference. Now therefore be it ordained by the City Commission the City of Lake Alfred Florida as follows. Section 1, annual budget the annual budget for the fiscal year 2024 2025 for the City of Lake Alfred Florida for the period beginning October 1 2024 in any September 30 2025. Set forth as exhibit A and which is attached to and made a part hereof is hereby adopted. Section 2, in the Ministry of Corrections and Scrimners Ares, the in the Ministry of Corrections of Typographical and or Scrimners Ares, in this ordinance that do not affect the intent may be authorized by the City Manager, where his does it need without the need of consideration by the City Clerk. Section 3 conflicts, all ordinances or parts of ordinances in conflict with any provisions of this ordinance are here by repealed. Section 4 separately, if any section or portion of a section of this ordinance proves not valid, unlawful or unconstitutional, it shall not be held to invalidate or impaired the validity force or effect of any other section or part of this ordinance. The City of Lake Alford Florida hereby declares that it would have passed this ordinance and each section, subsection clause or phrase, they're not irrespective of the fact that any one or more sections, subsection sentences, clauses or phrases, be declared unconstitutional. Section 5, effective date, this ordinance shall become effective on October 1, 2024, and introduce some passed on first reading at a regular meeting of the City Commission Lake Alfred Florida held this fifth day of September 24. Thank you, sir. Now I'd like to have City Manager Ryan, let me get to present the analysis, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The budget's being presented for second and final. As I suggested over the past several months, the City Commission has been presented with and approved the draft sections of the various funds included in the fiscal year 2425 budget. There was a small change from the packet just as I was going through. We made some formatting changes. The substance of change was we had funding in the next year's budget for a line relocation associated with the county road 557 project. That's not going to hit this year. Probably won't even hit next year. So we push that out to line year three in the CIP. And then also two, we're having some pressure issues north of town. And public utilities is on top of it, but a project that John came up with, hot off the press, is that if we can loop the line, we've got a line up where we service the water ridge community. And if we go up Adams-Born Road and then kind of cut over and connect to where Eden Hills is, that will loop the line and that will increase kind of like flow and pressure. A lot of times, like water utilities, like it's not just as simple as shooting the pipe out. You need to kind of loop it in order to maintain flow and then it can come from both directions. We basically got one pipe going up 557 and it's serving everything. And so it's a big line, but you can only push so much. So if we can loop it, it'll help kind of disperse the pressure and help the flow. So that's a project that we probably should have done many, many years ago, but the public ETA, what he's Director, kind of advocated for that. And so we've included 500,000 in funding. That would be impact fee creditable because it's a growth-related project. So those are the two substantive changes that we made, you know, that's reflected in the budget fund, the CRA, so each individual fund has the balance and then the overall budget balances. So we've got total general fund of 11,810,306 enterprise fund, 4,927,350, restricted fund. This is new. This is the first time we've had this year. 22 million and 49,917. 17 of that 22 million is related to the new water plant that we're going to be constructing up to the north and that will kind of be the long, long-term solution to service that area. And then we've got the Community Redevelopment Agency, 727,533 dollars, stormwater 7878,000 when you add them all together total budget for $24,25,39,593,106. We always create the second year budget just as a planning document. State law doesn't require us to do that but it makes it a lot easier to plan for capital projects as they work their way through from planning and CIP to being appropriated and funded and then ultimately completed as it rolls into the first year budget. So with that, staff recommendation is to approve ordinance 1546-24 on second and final reading and staff would be happy to answer any questions. to approve ordinance 1546-24 on second and final reading and staff would be happy to answer any questions. I actually need to amend my reading of the ordinance just briefly if you don't mind. I left out one sentence and the city clerk did point that out since I'd like to go ahead and read that in, adopt it, and enact it on second reading at the Lake Alpher City Commission meeting, Julie Simbold, on this 19thth of September 2024. Thank you. That'll teach you. Yeah. I would like to answer one question. When we get there next, it's like I always want to be able to do it. The people from that area always go to the heart attack. And they got a little bit of it. It'll help. that people from that area always go from high to high. They make out with transit. It will help. And so we've put out a public service announcement recently on the website and social media. And what's happening is we can pump the amount of water that we need to pump. We just can't pump it all in a two hour window. And so it's like a traffic jam that's happening. And a lot of it's just irrigation timers that are going off in the morning, the same time folks are trying to shower and get ready for work. So Wednesday's actually the worst day because I think that's when everyone's irrigation timers are set. So we're trying to get folks to move around their irrigation timers. They got to spread out that demand and that's just to help. The midterm solution is something that, again, the utility director just proposed, that we can loop that line into Eden Hills, that will help with the pressure and the flow, and then the water plant that's actually approved in this year's budget, that will be the long-term solution, and that will take care care of everything because then we'll have two plants and one will be up in that area that will satisfy it. There's also a theory that there might be some air getting caught in some of the lines and so the air kind of like siphons off basically the flow of the pipes that we get like an air pocket caught in the pipe it might turn a 12 inch pipe into effectively like a six inch pipe because you've got like an air pocket trapped in the pipe, it might turn a 12 inch pipe into effectively like a six inch pipe because you've got like an air pocket trapped in the top. So we've gone to the various high points and we've installed like these air release valves that we had to do that over in Mary Ann Aikers years ago. So we're trying that to see if that helps. We're proposing this loop project which we can probably get online in the next six months. And then of course, the ultimate solution is the water plant. But again, that's going to take a year, year and a half to fully construct. So we're doing everything that we can to make it work. And I think we've got a good short term, long term, short term midterm and long term solutions to address the concerns. Okay, thank you. All right, this is again, it's a public hearing, so if there are any of you that would like to address with either questions or comments, please come to the podium, state your name and your address. You have five minutes Hey, what's it? Sir, my name's Aaron Burr living on for three old folks city road like Albert Just a question on the the pipeline It basically runs up to the red barn 587A now Right, that's the current pipe. I think it's pass up a little way not much yeah so y'all annexed in on up in the green some swap where you weren't supposed to basically but now you got the property on the left hand side on old grey bro where you playing on what cold sword unit so are the city taxpayers only paying for all that to go up there just for that business? I'm curious. I'm not familiar with it. Yeah, so he's referring to it further north. So that property hasn't even been zoned yet. Greatest north of the park for. Yeah, the property north of life for hasn't been... You're playing on it. You got it. They'll probably either have to provide their own well potentially, or they may run water, but that would be at their expense. So when the developer runs, you know, pipes, they've got to do it at their expense. The only thing that the city would pay for would be like an up sizing, like let's say the development only needed a six-inch pipe to satisfy their development. Well, if we needed a 12 inch pipe to satisfy everybody else, I may connect to it along the way, we would pay the difference. And that wouldn't be taxpayers that would pay it. It would technically be rate payers. And then we collect impact fees from development to pay for up sizing charges. So it's rate payers that do it. And it's really it's restricted impact fees. And the developer has to pay to run their own lines. Any questions or comments? All right. Seeing none we will close that option to public hearing and open for city commission comments. It's Nancy. I find it ironic that when I started on the commission 22 years ago, our budget was $7 million. Now it's $39 million. So, but my question is between the two year budgets, the 24 to the 256. It goes from 39 million to 26 million. Is there a short answer to the water? Yeah, the sample is that the restricted fund actually kind of helps the winnius. If you look at general enterprise, CRA and storm water, between year to year, there's very little variation. You can see only like several hundred thousand dollars. So the big culprit then is in that restricted fund. And so you can see the 17 million basically that we're not doing for the water plant. But then we've got other capital in year two. So that, you're going to see big fluctuations between the budget because of capital. You know when we get ready to do the wastewater expansion, you know that might be 30 plus million. So you made that alone is 30 million on top of everything else that we're doing. So we're we're kind of riding the wave here but it's all unrestricted and a lot of the utility stuff is tied to debt service and even on the water plant, remember, we're trying to get 50%, you know, plus 60% principle forgiveness to where that will, that will come off of the books, you know, after we go through it. Anybody else? Okay. Anybody like to entertain a motion, please? Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve ordinance 1546 24 fiscal year 2425 annual budget. Is that a rule? Okay, you got a motion in a second. I'll in favor say aye. Aye, aye. Any opposed? Okay, motion is carried. Okay. So now we can go back and get our regular agenda here and discuss and present the consent agenda. Item number one on consent agenda is City Commission meeting minutes for September 5th, 2024. Item number two, City Commission announcements. Item number three, bid award for Central Park Pavilion. I agenda number four, Parade Route authorization. So... I had a quick question. I don't want to remove it from the agenda, but is why are we able to do the bid awards for 84 million or 84,000? $840,000 without it being accepted. 84,000 without it being accepted. So 84,000? Maybe. I was just looking at eight. I think it's 80, something. It's 84,000. We've just been placing things as- I'm sorry, 84,000. Yeah, things that have been budgeted that are fairly simplistic, we just put it on consent, like even if it's like vehicles or things like that. We try to bring big-ticket items, but if it's something that's already been budgeted, that's a part of the park project that was previously approved with FURDAP, the Commission wishes further discussion on it. We can always put on the action list. It just gives the ability to pass it seamlessly if there's no if there's no discussion on it. I just want to keep us straight. Yeah, if it was an unbudgeted action item I would put that on the primary agenda. Unless the commission wishes to do what it was. I just have one quick comment. I don't want to separate it out either. But in the description, I'm sure this is just a generic picture. I think it was a pretty good size, 20 by 40. I think that'll be really nice with the concrete in the shade. And the picture only showed like two benches. I'm assuming there's going to be more than two benches, right? Yeah, that was just, I think that was the drawing that we had from the building that we've got out at Twin Lake. Just as kind of like an example, we're using that same style with the green roof, I've asked them to put in electric and things like that so they can have sockets and lighting if we want. But I'm not. It'll be real nice and it can fit the heck of a lot more than two picnic tables. That's what I was thinking. Thank you. I'd like to open for public comments on those particular items for consent agenda. Okay. Seeing none. We'll close that. Any other additional City Commission comments. I'd like to make a motion to approve the consent agenda items 1, 2, 3 and 4. Second. Okay we have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? The motion is carried. Okay. And we'll move on to agenda item number 3, public hearing ordinance 1547-24 city commission compensation and I'd like to ask the attorney, so that's clear to read ordinance 1747-24 into the record please. Thank you, Mayor. Board of Trustees. Coordinates number 1547-24. In ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Lake Alfred Florida regarding Chapter 2, Article 2, Section 2-31 of the Code of Ornances of the City of Lake Alfred Florida, which amends the compensation schedule for the City Commissioners and the mayor. Providing for the incorporation of recitals, providing for conflicts, providing for severability, providing for the administrative correction of school and his heirs, re-killing out ordinances and conflicts herewith, providing for codification and providing for an effective date. Okay, thank you, sir. Now to the city manager, Ryan Levin Good, please present the analysis. I think Mr. Mayor during budget preparations, the city commission required about increasing the City Commission's Compensation for mayor and commissioners and requested a salary survey from the local labor market be presented the City Commission's Compensation was last adjusted in May of 2017 by ordinance 1369-16 to its current levels Which is 6,000 for the mayor and 5,000 for city commissioners and that would be annually. Before that, the salary was adjusted in 2005. It's 3,600 for the mayor and 2,400 for commissioners annually. The proposed ordinance would increase the mayor and city commissioners aneurysmary based upon the direction provided by the city commission. September 5, 2024 commission meeting, the city voted 4-1 to approve option number 5, which would increase the mayor's annual salary to 9,000 and the city commissions to 7,500. They've approved on second and final reading, these increases would take effect for all commissioners being in May of 2025 and are consistent with the previous interpretation of the city's charter provision regarding the changes and using attacks to that legal opinion. There is no staff recommendation on this. It is the pleasure of the City Commission, although the budget that was passed and reflects the option number five, which is the 50% increase to the 9,075. We've gone over this, but just for the sake of completion, this was a survey so you could see kind of the variations between mayor and commissioner between the different cities. Staff dropped the highest and the lowest of the highest would have been Hain City at 26,000 and 22,000. Bartow was flat at 1119 and then everybody else was kind of in between. At the current levels you can see you guys were under market by about 22% for the mayor and 11% for commissioners and you can see with the increase you'll slightly lead the market now at 117 and 133. But again if the commission hasn't touched it for not quite 10 years but seven or eight years and all likely had the others would eventually got a leap frog you know no different than we do with impact fees. Again no staff recommendation tied to this it is at the pleasure of the City Commission. Okay thanks sir. This is a public meeting and a public hearing and is open for any questions or comments on this item. Do you have anything to say or any questions? Please come to the podium. OK, seeing none, I'll open it for city commission comments, please. I'll have not changed my opinion that this isn't the time to give ourselves a 50% raise when people are struggling with their insurance and bills and so forth. So I won't support this one. Yeah. Ready? Yes. I'd like to thank the fellow members, the audience, who originally proposed this. This wasn't even proposed by us. That's an interesting comment too. Obviously nobody at the airport can quit their day job on $3,500 or $5,700 or $10,000. It's kind of laughable so that it's still small. But none of us are up here obviously for the money in that regard. We're just trying to do what we can for a community. But we do appreciate the citizen support. And it's also not a normal job where you're making 50, 80,000. And you know, even a number like that would probably be at 3% cost of living adjustment for the most part. So, did I appreciate everybody up here? And thank you. Thank you. Just the man I was right to approve on this number 1547 that 24 15 commission conference. Second. Okay, we have a motion in the second. All in favor say aye. Can we can we have a little call of ask for a roll call vote please. Mayor Fuller. Yes. Vice Mayor Daley. No. Commissioner Eden. Yes. Commissioner Dermann. Yes. Commissioner Maltzby. Yes. Okay, the motion is carried. 4 to 1. Okay. Next on the agenda is public hearing. Ordnance 1548-24 for sanitation and recycling. I'd like to ask City Attorney Seth Plader to read the ordinance 1548-24 into the record please. Thank you, Mayor. Ones number 1548-24, an ordinance of the City Commission of the City of Lake Alfred Florida and Mending Chapter 42, Solid Waste of the Code of Ornances, City of Lake Alfred Florida relating to the residential recycling and updated rate schedule providing for the incorporation of recitals, providing for repeal of conflicting ordinances and resolutions, providing for severability, providing for the administrative corrections governor's errors, providing for codification, providing for future amendments to chapter 42 solid waste to be made by resolution, providing for a business impact estimate and providing for effective date. Okay, thank you. Now, city manager Ryan, I'd love to good. We'll present the analysis, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. City of Lake Alprety and Reptiles Financial Consultants to perform a rate study in five year revenue sufficiency forecast for sanitation and recycling operations. The primary goal of the analysis was to identify sufficient rate levels to generate revenue that provides funding for operating requirements, including operations and maintenance expenses, ongoing vehicle replacements, and reserves, as well as transfers. The study has also evaluated the option of discontinuing curbside recycling pickup, thereby consolidating sanitation services into the once a week trash pickup. And this would be in addition to the Claw Truck Services that pick up the roadside debris or curbside. One curbside recycling was first implemented over a decade ago. The value of recyclable materials subsidized the services cost to below the regular landfill fee. The additional recycling rate for customers was set under the paradigm of recycling providing a net credit or at least a subsidy under the paradigm of recycling, providing a net credit, or at least a subsidy under the standard landfill rate. However, over the past decade with the loss of China's demand in the recycling market, as well as tightening margins, we are now paying a premium above the landfill rate in order to recycle. And so the difference between this is we're paying $107.49 per ton to recycle after the credit, whereas we pay $36.50 per ton at the landfill. And you can see our pricing is actually opposite that. We charge at $21.92, or we would have in October, and we charge $2.76 for a recycling. That was determined at a time when maybe we were only paying $10 for a ton for recycling or there was even a time where they might have been paying us. We might have been getting a $5-$10 credit because the value of the recyclable materials was more than it cost to do it. Well, now you can see the markets kind of been dropped on its head. You're paying three times as much in order to recycle, but then you look at the bill and recycling is only usually a couple of dollars. So what's happening is the market is catching up to this and then you see Auburndale discontinued, you know, their curbside recycling because the contractor was charging them like a couple dollars was going to take them to five or six dollars and then go to probably nine dollars after that. So why did, why did waste management do that? Well, because the value, the value in the recycling market isn't there. I think the article just came out this week or maybe it was last week on the county discontinuing curbside recycling services. So that's why it's not a mystery that this is all kind of happening at the same time. The recycling market's been shaky for quite some quite a few years. We've kind of carried it for as long as we can and that's kind of why we did the analysis that we did. The current charges for sanitation services is $21.28 for regular service. That would have gone up to $21.92 in October with the adjustment for inflation, which charged $268 for recycling and a $2.32 and $34 fuel service charge. Their proposed ordinance would remove the curbside recycling and remove the $2.68 charge. In addition, staff is proposing to reduce the base rate by $1 to $20.28 and to forego the co-look for a total reduction of $4.33 per month or a 17% reduction in the base rates. The fuel service charge might also decrease in the next year as a result because we're running fewer routes. Residents could utilize the existing recycling cans for additional trash to be picked up on their regular trash day at no additional charge. No new recycling cans would be added for new customers and as the counts turned over they would be then removed. Other cities are making similar changes to their services and as I mentioned the city of Auburndale as well as Polk County. Keeping curbside recycling would likely require us to increase rates and the range of $2 you know do a line with Fortad. You can kind of see here based upon the chart. This is where our existing rates are. You can see we're proposing to reduce them down to the $22.69. If we were trying to keep recycling and actually right size it to what it's costing to do, we'd probably need to jump up you know between the 28 and the 34 dollars in order to justify you know maintaining that service similar to where either Fort Mead is and I mean it probably not quite as high as Haynes City but in that ballpark so you can see that's kind of represented here the bottom range for us to keep recycling and keep the numbers right would represent a $6.29 or $0.09 from what we're proposing. And then on the top range, if you were to go as high as $3274, that would be a $10 difference between what we're proposing. So we're actually proposing it to go down and to buy down the base rate. When Auburndale did theirs, their rates were already so low, they couldn't do it. They actually took away recycling and increased the rates, which that's kind of a non-that's a tough sell. The residents were like, wait a minute, you reduced my service, and your charge would be more. And the same thing kind of happened with Folt County too. They're cutting curbside recycling. I think their garbage rates are doubling. They're going up because they were so low. We've kept pace with it as we should. We provide a solid service, but with this action we're actually able to go with where the market's headed. But at the same time, the commission, if you all prove this, we're actually able to reduce the monthly rate there by $4.40. On September 25th, the City Commission approved this ordinance on first reading. Staff recommendation is to approve ordinance 1548-24 on second and final reading. And as we had mentioned at the previous meeting if this is approved this is going to go into effect for the billing on October 1 but we will not discontinue service until January and then that way people can see the reduction in the bill and then that will give us time to educate folks and get the word out there we've come up with some different flyers and things that will stick on the cans and the door hangers in addition to flyers that will insert in the utility bills. And then that way we've got several months to kind of educate people and get them used to the new system. So again, staff recommendation is approval and we'll be happy to answer any questions. Thank you, sir. Okay. Again, we're opening this up as this is a public hearing. Have you got any questions or comments you'd like to make? Please feel free to come to the podium. Seeing none, I was a good thing when we first started and I feel really bad that it's come to this. But also in comment is what this happening, the county is looking at something else with landfill. So if we can help on our side with their side. Hopefully the landfill issue will improve. Okay. I have to say a quick question. Do they need to wait because I'm on the analysis so they could use the blue cans as regular garbage cans? Do they need to wait till January or can they start doing that? We're going to keep picking up recycling for the time being and just kind of rolling it through. If they do put it there, it's no big deal. We'll pick it up either way. But on recycling days, we'll pick up recycling. Now, if the blue trash can shows up on a trash day, we're just picking it up. But we're already doing that now because some people already use their recycling cans for trash. So as long as they put it down to garbage state, they can use that and they're not getting garbage. Absolutely. Thank you. I have kind of a question on the same line. I know some people pay extra to have an extra can. Will that fee go away if they can use their recycling can for their extra can or they have to... If they want to turn it back in, they can. Long term, though, the blue can will phase out. So if a once-a-property owner switches or the account switches, we'll pick that can up, or if it just gets so broken, where it's unserviceable, the wheels are falling off, you know, we'll take it and then not replace it. So... So children, they could just not use the second can and then they could get it back or the new resident could Well the new resident would lose it because they switch there They could pay if they needed to cans. Absolutely. So it's absolutely True now and like if somebody moves away the new resident doesn't pay the extra cans They would have to. No, no one's going to get charged for the blue can. You would only get charged if you had two green ones. Right. And so those people can just return those and use the blue can instead until they break. We have very few accounts I think that have the second can. Is that correct Amber? How many? Do you know? I see them? Second can, the second green can, do we know how many accounts? Not many. So yeah, if you have the two cans and you have the recycling can, you're like, well heck, if I can turn the blue one into a green one effect, I don't need the second, they can turn that in and they won't have to pay the monthly one. We just have to let them know that. Yeah. Okay. And just for clarification now, if we have the green and the blue and you put a blue out for the green and the blue on my days Wednesday for instance, if you're going to put the blue one out for the recycle, it's got to be recycled. If they pick up regular household garbage, won't we get that defined and whatnot that comes back with that if they're actually going to be, we wouldn't get defined. I'll have to discuss with John how we'll handle the transition. I mean, if you've got a separate day, it makes it easier. I'm just saying that was one of the problems with with people putting the wrong thing in a recycle bin and then we ended up paying more So I just want to for clarification purposes find out what We might say I need to start taking it away If you put the blue can out on Wednesday, which is your sanitation day my driver is is going to dump that, assuming that you have household sanitation right now. If you put a green can out on Friday, which is your recycle day, he's not going to dump that because he's only picking up recycle. That does happen where people will have them both out. Then some residents will put their both cans out on trash day thinking that we're going to let it sit there till Friday to get the blue can but if it's out I have to assume it's household trash and they're instructed to dump that. Okay. So the way I understand is we're going to stay with the program per say on our days for sanitation and our day for recycling until January. One, it'll drop off the bill but we'll keep it going until January. And the real risk is just if you roll your can out on your recycling day and the truck doesn't come, you're going to feel like, hey, wait a minute. So that's what we're trying to avoid with the delayed onset to get everyone. But if by January everyone's got their blue can out at the same day that they've got their green can mission accomplished. Yep, got it. When do you envision having some sort of a city bin or something for recycle for people? Because people have gotten into that habit of separating, you know, especially with all the Amazon cardboard that we have. We've added that, so we're going through a facility master plan right now, and so we've added that to their list to evaluate whether we can incorporate that into an existing facility or in some of the land acquisition that we're looking at. We've added that to CPH's task order or there kind of list of things to look at. We might be able to tuck it in down at public works now or as we're kind of moving some things around there, but we'll keep an eye out for other facilities. It'll be a part of the planning process going in next year. OK. All right. With no other comments anybody like to entertain a motion please. Mr. Mayor I'd like to make a motion that we approve ordinance 154824 sanitation recycling. Okay we have a motion and a second. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay motion is carried. All right item number five resolution 24-24 bad debt right off. City Attorney Seth Clare will read in the resolution 24-24 into the record please. Thank you Mayor. Resolution number 24-24, a resolution of the city commission of the city of Lake Alfred Florida, authorizing the finance department to write off the link. Utility accounts receivable debt for the fiscal year 2023-2024 according to the generally accepted accounting principles and for auditing purposes, providing for the incorporation of recitals, providing for the administrative correction of scrimmors errors and providing for an effective date. Thank you, sir. Okay, and now the manager will present the analysis. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. As a part of the closed-out process for the end of the current fiscal year, CitySap has requested authorization to expense any outstanding utility billing accounts as bad debt. Overall, the percentage of the accounts to be expense does bad debt is less than 1% of the budgeted utility billing revenue. The total amount for the 23, 24 fiscal year is $10,610 and 58 cents. In past years, the right-off has ranged from approximately 9,500 to 15,000. Disfer requests falls within the average range of previous years. While the debt is written off for accounting purposes, collection efforts will continue after the debt is written off the ledger. Staff recommendation on this item is to approve resolution 24-24. Okay thank you. Okay. Item is open to the public now for comments or questions. If you've got any comments or questions on this item please come comments. Mr. Mayor, do we ever collect this bad debt? I have the same question and of course it says that we don't quit asking for it now, whether or not we collect it. They would have to come back into the city women. So typically what happens is when someone moves out of town and then they go elsewhere and then you can't get blood from a stone so they would have to come back into the city and open up a new account. So that's typically where we see it's pop up. So we don't lean them to... No, because you're writing it off. We're writing it off now so we don't go after collection efforts and things like that. If you look at the individual accounts, most of them are fairly benign, maybe just a couple of months before they then moved out. They just came back. Monthly start for you. Yeah, they came back. We would have a record of it, and then we would catch it then. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. I'd questions? Okay. I'd like to entertain a motion, please. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve resolution 2424, bandit, pride off. Second. Okay. We have a motion on the second, tall, in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay. Motion is carried. We're going to get you home for the football game. Any opposed? Okay, motion is carried. That will get you home for the football game. Okay, our last item tonight is item number six, evaluation and appraisal report, F.A. David. Our city manager now will present the analysis. Thank you, Miss Mayor. Percentage after 73 C-49 of the Fort administrative code, at least every seven years, local government shall determine whether the need exists to amend their comprehensive plan to reflect changes in state requirements and local trends since the last time the comp plan was updated. We've kept up pretty good with the COMP plan amendments over the years with aiming. But in addition to the EAR, the EAR evaluates how successful the city has been in addressing identified major land use planning issues through the implementation of the COMP plan. Based upon this evaluation, the year recommends how the plan should be updated to further address objectives, changing conditions and trends affecting the community and changes in state requirements. According to the Florida Department of, or the Florida Commerce evaluation and appraisal report notification schedule, like Alfred's ear is due on October 1st, 2024. So this is just like the notification that we're proceeding. The city will submit an evaluation appraisal notification letter to the state, consistent with Florida statutes to bring the city in compliance with this due date As a part of this process the city will be updating its cop plan I want to will be looking to do an update from the 2030 to 2050 planning horizon City is looking to utilize the central Florida Regional Planning Council to facilitate and assist in this process and at this time I'll yield to Jennifer Kotas-Soldberry, the executive director for the Central Florida Regional Planning Council. Jennifer, thank you for making the trip and for enduring my budget hearing. Now, it was a pleasure. Thank you. All right. Well, good evening. It's Ryan, said, Jennifer Cotas-Soldberry with the Central Florida Regional Planning Council. And thank you. That was an excellent overview. This is really kind of a great moment in time. So every seven years, we do an evaluation in a praise and reporter see how the conference has a plan is performing. But this is a horizon year plan update. So our current horizon for the plan is 2030. And this next horizon is actually going to be 2050, which used to seem like a long way away. And we used to kind of think of the Jetsons or whatever with flying cars. So maybe we'll be, or not sure. But through this process, we actually review every element of the plan, how it's performed. We also look at projections, how much we're going to be growing, and we'll also be looking to hear from the community on the vision for the future. So we'll be looking at past trends and where we're headed and working on some policy amendments. And as Ryan said, the city is done a great job keeping up but because this is a horizon year we also provide a full update of the plan and I'm available for any questions. So staff recommendation on this item is to approve the evaluation and appraisal report affidavit and to authorize the merit to execute the document. Okay, this is a public meeting and if there are any public comments that you would like to make, there are questions on this item. You're welcome to do that right now. Okay, seeing none, we'll close that option and Open for City Commission comments Just a comment that Ryan is doing an excellent job and keeping everything moving forward with With all this and we always think the centralward planning for assisting us and doing the right thing. Thank you. It must be. Oh, do I read this into? No, no, no, you would just, you just make a motion, just entertain a motion and a second, the commission will just authorize you. Executed. I mean, you could just make a motion based upon what's written in the staff recommendation. I'd like to make a motion to approve the valuation to please report after David and authorize the mayor to execute this document. Second. Okay. And with a motion in a second, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Well, that'll save you from having to listen to me read something. Jennifer, thank you for making the trip. Yes. Looking forward to working with you. And they're doing a great job assisting us with planning services, yeoman's effort, and they, Jeff and Brenda did a great job at the planning board presentation last week. So we appreciate that partnership. And with that that completes the presentation. Perfect. All right. Okay so this is our opportunity second recognition recognition of citizens and I would like to ask anybody that is here to come forward if they have any comments or questions on tonight's meeting or anything else that's going on in the city and Miss bring up Please say your name and your address On 435 is district and I just want to say again and as I always say thanks to all of you for doing a great job here like Alfred And like you're doing for the community to make like Alfred better. Also I have a question for Chief but I think I can hold off. This is just a little question. I just want to thank you for having my officers out there in one of time here with the traffic but if we can get one on both sides, I know one will be on one side and then move over to the other side on certain days. But if we can have two or five chiefs, it's when your people will come assist. That will be good because when they try to get the other side, get across that's hard for this side to get across. But if we had two people out there and I know y'all will do it Um, just for the sake of a bus trying to go to work and kids want to school in the bus and stuff And I just want to add um, if we can get that taking care of I know the chief always do a good job If he's not out there, he's um, staff about there now doing a great job to keep everybody safe Oh, I just want to ask that question and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you sat down How you doing? I just want to oh I need your name and your address please Tony Lisbon 405 Lynchburg. Yes, sir. I just want to say I appreciate the work y'all put in since my grandpa's got us into the community with y'all and I want to get a question on you all have a time on on payment and lighting the roles in this work. Have the yield of the public works director and John, I don't know if we be able to do that. John, I can public work director. Actually, at this time, I do not have linchburg listed for paving. Not on the next cycle. It may come up after we'll evaluate it. I'll evaluate linchburg and we'll get it in the list. But at this current time, it is not listed at least for the next two years. Yeah we do. We do to do an update to the kind of we do like a city wide look at all the different streets and that ranking so we'll probably do that going into next year in anticipation of a future cycle so we can we'll evaluate those roads when we do that evaluation. Thank you, sir. And thank you, sir. Okay. Do we have anybody else that has comments or questions about tonight's meeting? Anything? Chiefs, anything? Okay. Then, I'd like to go ahead and start with our commissioner question and comments with Vice Mayor Daly, please. Thank you. I had gotten a letter from the Department of State. We, quite a while ago, had inquired about applying for the Alexander McIbe bridge. And they had come back with they would rather do the whole property in the house and everything. So we had to do something to make sure that that wasn't going to restrict us from fixing things. For example, if the porch rails keep deteriorating because they made out of wood, Does this restrict us from being able to use a composite material or aluminum or something as long as we do it in the same configuration to look like the old days, but it would hold that better. They said that they would not have anything against that that we would have to check with our local authority to see if we had any restrictions against that. And I said, I think I know a few people at the local authority to see if we had any restrictions against that. And I said, I think I know a few people at the local authority. I can find out whether they have any historical restrictions. But I could see where they would want to make sure that we don't put like a pink metal roof or something on a historical building or whatever. But anyway, I have that letter and they have with it they have supplied us with an application that we need to be filled out. And then what happens is the state goes to bat for us with the national register. So we don't do too much with it. They actually are the ones who recommend it. And they would, in this case, do the bridge, the botanical historical gardens and the house all in one big application. So just wanted to make sure that the commission didn't have any objections just when we're forward that and we'll see whether that can be a thing or not. But I just wanted to bring that to your attention. Another thing is this afternoon I went to a meeting with the SDOT. It was their 255 Florida Transportation Plan at Lake Eva in Hanhane City. And they were, it was a workshop and they were asking for people's comments about where they think that SDOT should be planning going into the next 20 years. And I brought this postcard back and I left some on the counter and has a QR code and they're looking for everybody's input. So if you could go or go on their website but they're wanting people to go and do a survey and get public comments and also you can read other people's public comments. And they're doing this all over the state. This just happened to be the one that was done in the central part of the state. There's one up in the panhandle. There's one down in South Fart. I think there's six workshops all together. But the survey time was open now. So they were asking. So I brought this today. You could all go and put in your two cents about what we think FDOT needs to be doing to help leave the traffic situation. They want to know what are the bad impacts and then what are we going to do about it and what are suggestions. And there were some interesting suggestions. I think we need more over passes on 27 so that we don't have any traffic lights, but that's my opinion. They want to know where they're going to get the money for stuff like that. But then the last thing I had was that Morris West in Han City is holding a fundraiser for Darren Soathoes re-election. And if you all remember, he was instrumental in getting us a very large grant. He's not our representative anymore, but I feel like he's doing a really good job and wanted to make sure you guys were aware in case you wanted to. RSVP to Morris West. I'd like to know if you can attend that. It would be on October 7th. And other than that, that's all I have. Thank you. Okay. Okay. I'm up next and again, I want to thank everybody for coming out tonight. It's always great to have such a good attendance at our meetings. I see a lot of new faces tonight and I want to appreciate it. You gentlemen in the back row, not the back back row. They are always gentlemen, but these young men up here that had to sit through this. I appreciate you coming in and hope you found this educational and you can kind of come visit us anytime you want. So you're always welcome. I received a thank you note from the kids Ryan mentioned in his opening comments from Leadership Discovery team and it was to Ryan Linda, vice mayor, daily and myself we had them in here and it was like Ryan said, it's a pleasure to serve them every year and I always, you like to kind of compare each group with the last or whatever. And this was an exceptional group. They get up here and they have one of them sitting in each of these chairs and they go through a typical meeting just like we are here. They try to go through sometimes they even say your name right Linda but they they did a great job everyone of them spoke you know very loud and clear sometimes they do like to hear themselves talk and so they did a great job I got a really nice note from it it's just always a pleasure to have them come in and join us. So I want to thank Ryan, Linda, Nancy, and I just certainly get a lot out of doing stuff like that because it's these kids that we're really ultimately all working for, for their safety, for their education, and for their families. Car show this weekend. We're keeping it, hopefully our two in a row. Emily's got the weather I think dialed in and she's done a great job for us getting ready for this one. It's the hot rods and heroes. So we're going to pay special tributes to our first responders. Just had a few of them drive through, police department, first responders, fire department, anybody that's responsible for helping our cities be safe during school hours, during response to emergency and so forth. So we do appreciate that. I will be attending a Florida League of Mayors meeting over in Daytona. Ryan and I are actually going over for that. And it's the new President of the Florida League of Mayors has got a program put together to help small cities grow their businesses. And I think with the extra hat that Ryan has had on this last year, I think he'll bring a lot of good ideas and good thought process. And he's learned a lot about our city too. We really appreciate everything he's dug into. So Ryan and I'll be doing that on Wednesday next week. And in Thursday, I've got another Mayor's Roundtable here in town. So enjoying all of it, I'm enjoying the experience, I'm enjoying the opportunities that this job has provided me with. So beyond that I just am thankful for all of you in the back row, both chiefs. You're always doing a great job for us. All of our directors, so thank you again for coming tonight and I'll turn it over now to Commissioner German. Mr. Mary, you couldn't say it any better and I just commend all of you for having the idea of advice, may I have your comments for the weeks that we've had and just looking forward to Saturday and whether it's going to be great. As mentioned, there's going to be a ski show on the lake, which will be very fun. We have never had that before, correct? And just looking forward to it. And we got a lot of things going on for the coming months. That's all I have. Thank you. Yeah. coming months. That's all I have. Thank you. Yeah, by the way, I want to thank Vice Mayor Daly for helping us set that up. She's made some phone calls and got them to add us to their list this year. And I think that's going to be a real real plus. And hopefully maybe we can add that to our annual part of this if they like it. And we like it. And we can come to those scheduling Issues which hopefully we won't have any but anyway. Thank you again for your help Okay Commissioner Eden Thank you As always I want to thank both the Chiefs in the back and all the first responders. I appreciate everything you guys do I also want to give it special. Thank you to Linda my birthday twin and this is more of a keeping set in mind so I appreciate you. And just thank all the city staff for I and everybody in the back row and everybody on down to everybody, you know, at the top just all the way down to cut in the grass. So thank you guys. That's all I have. and we'll wrap it up this evening with Commissioner Maltsby. Okay, it's my time. I need to ask, of course, the city commission have permission to act on the front of the company community bill with grant fund. You do a good job in Salt Lake, they're what gonna happen. But are you allowed to make all the decisions? Could the City Commission make make some decisions. So depending upon, I know your question is related to, but so if there was a grant and some on a flat board, you know, it would just be the city attorney, we would have to cross that bridge when we come to it at the minimum. There would probably be some like abstainment, you know, and the city attorney would provide that or make that determination, you know, based on if there was a pecuniary or financial interest that you might have to refuse yourself from or abstain from. Well, I'm not trying to get a grant from myself. I'm not a question. I cannot, we're a conflict of, if I had to get one. But I was thinking about what's happening to the people on the low end of the finest of some old man, 15, 16, huh? That was a little bit red and they'll make them rent. Could we use all that money when you took to build a 23-long income house? Uh, what? I wouldn't want to go down that road without quite a bit of research, because when government gets involved in like affordable housing, it's like a different animal. Like usually only the bigger cities go after it because of that because I've got entire divisions dedicated to it. So like Lakeland and the county. I don't even know if Winter Havens got an affordable housing division. So that's typically kind of the caution there, is that there might be a whole different like rules and regulations associated with that. The CRA is there to address blight. And so if we can go in and then help folks that are already there like rehabilitate their homes, that kind of checks the box on addressing the blight. The other thing that we've got going on and we're probably do, because code enforcement's been working on like different foreclosures and trying to get overgrown lots and things like that. We might have a couple of lots coming to us in the next year, and then we could then partner with Habitat for Humanity through much better position. That's much more their expertise in wheelhouse to where if we get properties through either acquisition or foreclosure to the code enforcement process, then that's when we would then turn over those lots to a nonprofit that would serve a public purpose in creating those housing. So I think we'll look for those types of opportunities and I think there may be some coming up here shortly Commissioner Maltzby. All right, and would you please find out from whoever if we can do a housing a house in the lower income house. But we started out with zero. I thought, oh, we have to file on a thousand a year now. Yeah, for the budget. And again, the CRA budget has got a more geared toward other things. But we'll do some research on that, sir. And we'll follow up. I appreciate it. There are minutes. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Everybody having made their comments? I appreciate everybody's attendance tonight and I hope you have a safe weekend. We're closer to our weekend than we normally are on a Monday night. But be safe driving home. Thank you again for coming and this meeting is adjourned.