All right, it's seven o'clock, so we'll call to order the May 15th meeting of the Charlotte County Planning Commission. Welcome to your given indication. It's just our heads for you. Father, we're coming for you afternoon. Ascent for forgiveness of all of our sins. We thank you for allowing us to see another day, and also to be allowed to meet another month, to care of the business of the county as far as the planning commission members are concerned. We ask that you go with us through this meeting.. God lean their records that we might be due, that we might do things in order, in to benefit members of the county. We ask that after this meeting is over. We allow us to save trip back to our residents. Or the persons we ask in his name, Amen. So Monica has passed out a agenda that's different from the one that was emailed or in your packet. And the reason it's different is that nobody energy has requested that their 2232 review be postponed until next month's planning commission meeting in June to provide staff an opportunity to correct an error in the airport and to allow NOVAI the opportunity to submit an additional application information to address some of the concerns that were identified in the report. So therefore the tarot solar has been removed from tonight's agenda or the agenda that you have previously. Do I have a motion to approve the revised agenda that Monica passed out? Sorry. Second. All in favor? Opposed? Okay. We will now suspend the regular meeting and recess for a public hearing on a conditional use permit. Excuse me. or you're a bit of minutes here. That'd be fun. Can we approve the minutes? Second. Second. Got to hit them myself. Thank you, monitor. All in favor? I suppose. All right. Now we will suspend the regular meeting and recess for a public hearing on Red Oak excavating, Mary-Own Hall material storage yard with parking. So we'll call that public hearing to order. Is there a staff report? Yes, you do have a sample for any recycling, so rather than excavating, you have to have the application for the D-info possible. The problem with an antibiotic excavating engineering at all is that it includes portions of process 9.414 and 9.14C. Okay, you have to know agricultural renal, and designated with the Canadian staff for future agricultural forests and rural areas. The property is located on Highway 15 and 5193-1 for Highway Reddeg. It is immediately adjacent to the Reddeg Excavating Facility Bay. The parcel consists of 56 acres of total. The project will actually only occupy 20 and a third anchored. I informed the 22 acres of medical work in C in the 19.155 acres of 1914. They're looking to do an open material storage yard with vehicle parking that Yard is going to be fed stand as shown on the preliminary site plan that you all have. There are no buildings proposed as it's time, however, it's good and board should off the shoulders later. What are the energy travel and transportation that that's the one of this? A Dominion energy intensive to lease this yard for the timing. For used during the transmission line project, it it made it for other projects where they used for other uses in the future. There are structures on the project site, and currently planned, it does comply with setbacks, and it's said earlier, any buildings would have to be setback for payments as listed in outside of the board. They plan to use the existing 45 foot commercial and virtual market for how we're there and read an excavation for ingress and ingress to the site, the dot-hands review that can handle any of these first native medical skills and systems are required. If you're planning to send markings products, which would not be far screening as a very important required screening only only for situations when it was running for more. On the next page, you see a list of adjacent landowners. Physically standards are that immediately adjacent and within 400 feet, they did not immediately adjacent the car within that distance are native on hands near adjacent parc That is 21 different Fawcils, the majority of them are either single family dwellings or Timur of Dunlain. The zoning ordinance provides specific criteria that the planning commission has to consider when looking at a conditional use permit in considering approval. Those of us that they are at the bottom of the page. They include whether it's consistent with the comprehensive plan, whether they're impacted to adjacent property editors and public facilities, those who are in the infrastructure and whether it's in the negative or not. Other than that, the use of the data is having the same development and duration of it. Whether it's all results in the preservation or the structure of the law for damage, or seeing the gas power graphics, the chemical changes, chemical operas, or the chemical changes. And whether it will contribute or provide a well-ferred effect, or whether it will provide a desirable employment and large attack raise, and then, if on the confidential affordable shelter opportunities. Our base only application is an important requirement that is running in six conditions in association with this project. One, two, five, and six from the standard commission we normally use that it relates to a hearing with federal state and local law, compliance with the actual plan that is submitted, provisions that allow the county administrative building officials owning official and designates to access the property to ensure compliance and the eradication of the firmament if there's any interactions. We're also proposing one that just states that zoning and building permits must be obtained by replacing any structures of all the material stored yarn. This was specifically put in there since there are some locations on the site plan that were originally designated structures, so it's a little confusing there. They're not intended to put those on there and's not part of the application but we want to make sure that's clear that there is a prominent process. And the other one relates to damage solar panels. This is a question we've received from the citizen because this is a conversation that's been going on going, which is more clarified. They never visit the damage solar panel or any porch over there. They're of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the shape of the Planning Commission has three options to consider. They can approve the application with conditions. Reasons for approval. Might be that it supports the conference plan goal of supporting the expansion of versus climate climate in its compatible with adjacent uses and the nature of the use does not negatively impact rural character of the community. You can also deny the opt consultation reasons might include that the protege is not compatible with the rural character of the community, whether there's a negative impact that you'll need to identify that cannot be dedicated. And you also have the option to deploy taking action. Thank you, Monica. Does the applicant have any comments? Well, I was approached to each state to name it. I'm Jean Hall and we're at a vessel ache. I'm the owner of a vessel ache. We have stored materials beside my shop for different jobs. That was approached by the contractor. There's going to be doing the job because they lay poles there, whatever it was, to go with the project, which is a mile of the road from my shop. So that's how we come out. Yes, the men in my end of the reddit or the contractor have a big on C fit to do it but so I come in and I ask them they want to be a certain area so because they build redo on the line right there at DC Jackson substations from clover to chase it is about 18 20 in the middle, in the middle of the site. It was easy access, everything's right there. So, there's just some other contract to come on to us. I say yes, we'd be glad to do that. Then that's why we applied for permit to get the site man, we put out the minion wanted us to build a certain way to make sure we're fenced in and done until when body comes to deal with anything and the body could see it. So that's what we've done. We talked to y'all about putting up a chain link fence and meeting all the climbers. They can't be shaded too. There'll be a couple of them to check out a chain link fence where they can't see inside from driving by. There'll be crimes ahead of some crimes ahead of some timeanes, have some time. Pick it up, poles, or whatever. But that's what the site was originally. That's what it's supposed to be done. When somebody says somebody's solar, there's nothing been mentioned about. Any solar being put, nothing, panels, anything was all about transmission poles, wire, cross-mummers, all that for the upgraded power line. It's just going to happen they done their first section about four, five years ago to coming through getting the next section by. That's why I'm here to ask to be able to build this, to be income for us, for the rental business also to be able to. It's a fiscal cost, so it's a pretty good opinion to be able to dispense their show on the Arnaz. So, it's a lot of cost going into what they got to do. So, but it'll give us my me and some work plus revenue back to the company for the rental. So, any questions? No sir So, no hazardous waste. No, sir. No, it's just transmission poles and what I would like. Probably metal poles, if I were to place everything else with them. No side of them. What happens if hazardous waste does get there by accident or whatever? What happens, Monica? I mean, like, if say broken solar panels did somehow end up there by accident or whatever, whatever. What happens Monica? I mean like if say broken solar panels did somehow end up there by accident or whatever. What's that what do we do? Does the county do anything or? They would be in violation of their cup if that's part of it. say. And you would also have to call in like the ET or somebody like that to evaluate it to see if it is actually an issue. So the county doesn't really handle the environmental issue. We would call it like a state agency. OK. All right. We'll hold questions here for one more second. Do we have anybody signed up for public comment? This is for the public hearing for the Red oak excavating material towards your heart. First up is Mr. Lane Gunn. If you state your name, yes, when you get up there. I'm Lane Gunn. I live at 16476 Kings Highway in Wilesburg. I'm the chairman of the board director of the South Central Virginia Business Alliance and I'm also a project manager for Red O'Paxcule. This lay down y'all are just for a transmission line, not a solar project. There will be no solar panels or anything related to solar projects stored on this lay down y'all. And make that clear. Moving forward, SCBBA, we bring local businesses to the forefront of projects like these. Now it's your turn to help us get a project like this. Because at the end of the day, without your approval, we can't go to the board of supervisors to fight for their group. I help your local businesses garner this work. The lay down yard will be dead center of the high voltage line that they're replacing. It's a perfect spot. It's a wide open field, so it's not going to be destroying trees or anything else. We're going to build ponds. We're going to put in a stone laydown yard and make it fully accessible for the contractor. It's going to be doing the work for the minute. But we need your help to do that. So I'm requesting a yes vote on this tonight so that we can move forward and give it talk to the board of supervisors and get there. There will be no toxic chemicals or anything else. If there's an old spill on the project from equipment, there's high-draw clients can and will bust. Everybody knows that. It will be cleaned up by the Q stands. Dominion is very strict on that type of thing. Have our words. Nothing is going to go bad on this project. Appreciate your time. Have a blessed evening. the county and I urge you to support it. Thank you, Mr. Goldman. All right. Are there any commissioner questions or comments? I have one, Mr. Jim. Yes, sir. How would the applicant feel about the proposed use and verbiage there towards the end where it says, Anne may use it for other projects as well. Could we stick other transmission line projects in there? Should those two luck words? There's two holes if you'd like to. Step up. I'm not really, you know, we're not doing solar farms. I do work for solar. Don't be wrong. I'm a great contractor. I work for solar. We make a lot of, because I deal with any kind of solar going around any any kind of projects locally. I think it ought to stay local money-wide. I always said that. You do it here before y'all, I said the same thing. This is a local business. This is inshallah County. We employ 20 some people, 28 people I think now. It has been in 50 employees. But when you contract them for the million coming to ask us about putting it here, they want to put our office, try to look who you're going to office. If my office is still, I'm going to rent them office space and my shop for them to work. So, but it's not going to be, it's not coming to like Daniel Bray no soul panels in that land on this site, just busts or anything else, it's like Laney said, we're not going to, we're going to make sure, it'll be monitor to make sure nothing bad, because I, I mean I live I mean, that's my home phone. We raised the buy-and-out for them. So it's just a great feel that's got to hang on it And there's no money the money we'll get it off of this later on you know a whole lot more and selling 50 bales. Hey, I promise you So so what was that you wanted to add to you? I'd I'd like to see transmission lines stuck between other end projects. Other proposed use of last sentence. Would exclude solar panels serve purposefully? And I don't know if that's served surface. And I don't know if that's an option. When it instead of- When it says other projects, it kind of leaves it open-ended. But if we said other transmission lines projects, it would be very specific. She's back. She's back. But with that, the 8-2-0-0 connect, it keeps going for other pages. How about on everything with solar panels being that other projects, with everything but no solar panels being there? That's what I was asking if you could just put excluding solar panels? Solar panels, I'm bound with that. I mean, there might be some projects that have some metal posts or stand-in posts or whatever for anything else there. So, because I know it's two more lines going in the same area and that's what they want to do. Yes, sir. Mr. Crowell. I'll point out I'm a greener with bulletin or pen and Mr. Hall if you specify specifically what you cannot have and thanks much more pocket for the county to actually minister it whereas this is all point the county doesn't implore how it has been teased to differentiate one metal post from another but if the concern is the solar panels in their contents, which is what I respect, I understand that point, then exclude those things that you definitely want to exclude. I don't want to care if they're out of the house. I didn't. A rat can system to a stuff like that. Yeah, I don't want to. Well, I think the solar panels are not a solar panel, but I don't have a problem with that. Because they're not going to store it. If you don't know the truth, they're not going to store them any sun. So when they bring them in off their trucks, they do not. We work on solar projects. They put them somewhere and they cover it up. They ain't going to bring them in and leave them out for a project. They're going to do five the other road they just don't do that so they put them in a warehouse and why don't do that. So they put them in a warehouse. And I'm not building a warehouse, but you're just gonna do them. You're gonna be transmission poles, metal poles, whatever they're gonna do with a lot of that scuff with. It won't be a solar panel put that. I'll make sure that you got my word on that. Okay, so the proposed use that you see in here is just part of the staff report. So what you would have to modify is one of the recommended conditions. One through six. Can we strike the number four and strike the physical damage and just put notes over half over any portion of the brief rush and just hold on to five. That would be good. Yeah, I think that'd be more comfortable with that You just strike the phrase physically damage from none of the four. And it reads no solo panels or it's more than a debris there. I should be soloing the site. And out of the spectrum, it's all that you track them. I'm good, I mean if they come and say they can put metal posts, the rack and system for a solo phone, that's that's no contamination or no wires anything like that because they're just no solar panels because that's what everybody seems to be up set about solar panels being contaminated. I don't have a problem no solar panels going on in that lane. So when the motion is made it would be whichever option you pick. If you picked option one, approved with conditions as modified striking those words. If that's what it is. Any other questions or comments or concerns? Mr. Chairman, what's your name? Just a concern, I'm thinking about it in the future is, I understand that concern, but coming soon after this would be Randolph Solar and if they have to have a lay down yard somewhere and I know usually they put these panels in the warehouse and stuff like that but if they happen to need to unhook a tractor trailer there to a 12 hours later to pull it to the solar form I can't imagine this is going to be a bad place to unhook or load the solar panels. Dominion is already involved with additional land flow, the AOMGAR, the R&D. Most of the projects are putting laid-in yards on parcels that are in the project. The parcel that Supervisor Smith has referred to is a R&D project parcel. That you're going to see predominantly as far as solar is concerned is laying on the project site because there are large sites already in there for you. And Mr. Hall said that it doesn't matter if it's not panels there so I guess it's not into the world but if you can put them up the road on another site and he's gonna have the same spec site with retention ponds it's hard to limit limit one person and go across the street and say you can do it right there but you can't do it over here I'm just trying to make sure it's stay on leave and kill here and I know it's for a transmission but just thinking in the future. The um... Stay on leave and kill here and I know it's for transmission, but just thinking in the future the Sure you got to get a land disturbance from it. Oh, yeah I know you haven't crossed that bridge you're my first option then you're my first breeze Candace and medicine we've done the preliminary plans shows that places were upon for DQ Where it's got to go? DQ is going to sit the preference away, store what y'all is, what we have to do. It's going to be a minute. Yes, it's going to be even after y'all, if y'all, if it's tonight, then I've got the camera, the board's soup out. Then it's 90 days. Then it's 90 days for the E.C. to review. If you can get review in 90 days, let me know. Well, most times they'll do it. They might tell you they did not want to change something they put them in 90 days. That's what they don't have. But we work with a lot. So I'll get out and stay out and have a work. So I mean, I know a lot of inspectors. One comment. I'm going to get lower. My witness. Deak. I'm a lot, so I'll be able to stay at have a work. I mean, I know a lot of inspectors. One good move, I ain't good Lord. My witness, the DQ like system, we work with them a lot of time, so we've got a good reputation with DQ, so. I'm all full of, I'm all full of, I'm being safe and anywhere we go, whatever it is, I'm all always been out of way. I've been doing this 39 years, since 1986. So we've been real big, we've been real small, we implore a lot of people. And I've been, I ain't nobody in the ass for nobody help me do anything. We've done it to hard knocks and worked our way through it, one day at a time. Yes sir. And I'll be up for business when he started it. I'm on the 100th round of work. It was great for a year. Now we're doing million dollars of work for work a year. So it's grown a long time, one step at a time. So thank you. Any other questions or comments? All right. We'll adjourn the public hearing and reconvene the regular meeting. The next item on the agenda is to consider the conditional use permit application for the material storage yard. I'd like to make a motion, Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. I'd like to to recommend the Board of Supervisors for the red or extravating conditional use permit for this material storage yard with the parking as presented be approved with conditions 1,25 and 6 based on all the findings. Thank you all involved, don't you? No sir, 1,2006. I'm going to do a preaching. So the motion is to approve the application with recommended conditions, 1,2,5 and 6. Is there a second? Second. All right. Discussion? I want to skip three and four. Yeah. Like I said, like I brought up to him, we brought up one, two, five and six earlier in the recommendations and you got four years down the road if they need to unhook a fifth wheel trailer, our solar panels to another truck to come put it. Do another project I can't see why sitting on a yard fence down with retention ponds with DEQ regulations would be better than sitting on the side of 360 at a truck stop. I mean because they'll hook them anywhere at least this is regulated this is a good spot to have it unhooked. But if you don't put that in there, then they can store. So that allows them to store solar panels as well when they're not unhooked. That's fine too, if it's DEQ-regulated. The number four says no physically damaged solar panels. But he's not including that. That's what I mean. I would you not at least want to not have damaged solar panels there. At least they're damaged. I'd rather have them on a controlled site with retention ponds. Rather than on the side of 360, I'm hooked from a tractor trailer away from the next driver to pull him. I want to move on a controlled site with regulation, with retention ponds because they're going to be somewhere. They're not going to be non-existent. They might be sending the taste freeze parking lot, and I'd rather want them on this gentleman's life. Because we're going to have them. Better off on that lot than over at Ureakers School, like the last one. Yeah, they're going to be on somebody's farm behind Miller's house if we don't have them somewhere controlled. And also you state storage and you define storage as a trailer that has been disconnected from the tractor versus a panel removed from the truck and lying on the ground or on a pile. So in referencing storage, we're referring more to what the truck being caught there as opposed to being unloaded there. Is that what you Is that what you clear stating in your description of storage of panels on this layout? And I'd be a Mr. Moore now I would think as for us. I would rather any of these panels new used and I know they don't state a plan but I'd rather have a controlled site with any kind of panel broken or brand new or being there rather than on River Road and the low grounds for you somewhere on the farm because we're gonna have them, that's just a matter where we put them. You can't have them in there, don't they have to go back or something Monica, what happens with broken solar panels? There's a condition in all of the solar CUDs about how they handle it or it has been the most recent ones. And that they have so many days, it's got to be in a covered location where it can't be impacted by why they're obsessed by a wildlife. And they have so many days to remove it. And the last one is had to go to a recite and go back to the supplier to make a factor. So there are a lot of stipulations in there and that's why we will rush them in before as it is because we already have things from the solar sites on how they need to be handled from the panels on the site and this was a way to keep them on site rather than also having them on other sites. I don't think we need to have a dump yard for broken solar panels. Didn't you say each project has its own laid-down yards? So, suppose we can. Then, Kim, there's a condition associated with that. And both of them will have laid-down yards on the side, just because of the amount of material that they need. And then, Reddock already has an application For the way I've been taught to see PV about where they're looking at, some of it is pretty standard practice. What's your reason behind not doing number three? That includes number three in the emotion. I just didn't know that I didn't think it needed to be included because just that's already countywide. I mean you can't, you got to get a pro zone and then building permits before any structures anyway so we're just restating a county ordinance. I mean you can put in there if you want to but that's that's already a known county. You can't go out here and build a house without a permit, or a building or a shed or what was staff's thought in adding that, including that, just to make it abundantly clear or... Staff's thought is because the preliminary plan had those three rectangles drawn on it, and staff was unclear when we looked at it it whether that was a bill or not, if we reached out to them and found they originally had planned on doing some store ships and what they took from them. Because it's still morphed, it could create confusion as to what was the pretty stuff concept plan, so it was kind of distinguish that and make it better clear what we did for it. I point out that Mr. Breed might actually help us at all because it suggests that there might be buildings. So there you go. Prior to placing any structures on storage yard, it plies the the condition would for structures on storage yard, but just that they would have to get a building And they would be a lot of it just like construction try looks We can put that in there, but it's state and obvious Yeah, I think it was just cuz that place for a risk point does Yeah. Any structure in the county, you gotta come up here and get one. I guess you can put it in there if it's your motion. No, I'm sticking with my original. Any further discussion? All right. all in favor of accepting option number one which is approval of the application with recommended conditions 1, 2, 5 and 6. Signify by saying aye. I suppose by likes on motion passes. All right. We'll now go to the general public comment period. I've had a few guests with me. I'm sorry. Miss Paz, you're going to be first. Good evening, my name is Paz. I just have to sound from the keys. The reason I wish to speak to my just to share with you that I recently attended the annual Virginia Land Conservation and Voice Conference. And there were two items that I thought would be a thank you to the Planning Commission. So I'm going to pass out this handout. As you all know, for more than than 50 years Virginia has had strong bipartisan support for land conservation that is setting aside some land that will be permanently protected and never developed. And after that started back in the late 1960s, and around 1999 they established the Virginia Land Conservation Foundation from which the state appropriates funds to this foundation to help advance certain land conservation projects, such as protecting working farms, protecting working farms, protecting cultural resources and the like. So they annually, one of the things distributed at the conference was the annual report for the year 2023. And that happened to have four different pages that mentioned the Charlotte State Forest. So I couldn't bring you the entire annual report. It's a glossy, beautiful publication. But I wanted to share the pages that relate to Charlotte State Forest. So they're here. The cover is, as you all probably know, that beautiful side is Megapina about, north of about 15 miles northwest of Rona. And then the center fold for that public center fold, that's from another era, the center fold for that publication was this sheet which I'll share with you, which is a state map that highlights many of the land conservation foundation has funded over 356 different projects. They've spent about $120 million to do that over 25 years. Here's a map that this map showed highlights some of their projects. And so if you look on this map, you'll see Charlotte County plays out very commonly because they have a whole different appropriation that they need to to make these surely state Court. So just to actually part of the final commission, I just thought we'd find work within conservation and democracy. The other thing that happened at the conference that would be of interest to do was there was an excellent panel presentation on House Bill 2 of Cit. You will remember the Virginia General Assembly in 2022, adopted House Bill 2.0.6. Which will require all solar projects in the PBR, the permit by rule, to if they disturb or impact the neighbors of Crown Farmland or 58 groups of forest land, they will have to mitigate the gate bridge of prime farm land or forest land that is disturbed. So there are a couple of ways that can happen and the panel that explained how will this happen. Essentially what they're going to have for every acre of prime farm land that would be used in the solar project, they're going to have to find in Virginia an equal number of acres of Promp farmland that would go under a conservation easel, the same, that would be true for 50 issues of forest land. So the panel that explained this consisted of the law firm, Gentry Locke. They had their director, the attorney who's their director of government fares, and a planner who works for for them also an attorney from the Department of Environmental Quality and the attorney who handles government relations for the Virginia chapter of the Nature Conservancy. So Dynamite Panel explaining exactly how this will work. So I think before and it will apply to any solar projects of the EPR from the Department of Environmental why they 100% of the megawatts are west, that did not have a PJMQ for every December 31st of 2024. So by the reason for sharing this with you, is that panel was outstanding. And they explained at what point the local government would want to weigh in on how this mitigation is handled. So just bring that up today. I think you'll be interested in that. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Gold. I'm sorry, I don't know. I'm going to be brief, ladies and gentlemen. Our project, the Taylor Road Solar Project, was there been discussed tonight, but our developer called and asked that it be put off to your June meeting. Some of our supporters are here tonight and we didn't get word out to them. And I kind of want to apologize to them for not letting them know that we weren't going to discuss tonight. And we're not going to do any commenting tonight to drag your meeting out tonight, doc. But we look forward to coming back in June and talking through the project with you a little bit. That's all I got. Thank you. Mr. Goldman. All right. Now we'll go to the battery energy storage zoning amendment. Monica prepared a staff report. Monica, do you want to... What I'm thinking is, why don't we run through Monica's staff report and then have her stop at each one of these bullet points. See if there's consensus on Monica's done a good job of giving us a couple options here. See if there's a consensus to discuss it and then go on to the next bullet. I think we can roll through this. We've kind of talked about this, and that Monika can go back and do a lot of leg work. And appreciate all your hard work, Monika, going back and looking through this stuff. But does that sound amenable to everybody? Or do we want to wait to the end and then discuss it? Any preference? Sounds good. Right, we'll go through each one then Monica. So just to remind, we're picking up with the issues we can last time, which are related to the fire risk, the commissioning tier one, and then also looking at the vision APRES size. The planning commission does have to have a decision within 100 days of referral from the board set up by June 28th. In looking at fire risk, the first thing you're requesting of staff was to incorporate the basing requirements into the draft ordinance. We can provide a dose that the minion was using for our play that will recommend by Air Barrier deal with the Department of Energy. And those that could put in as section 1024-7, which is under the power safety regulations and for the sake of look at those. So basically, we regurgitated what the Mindy Power, which is pretty strict, will require and just kind of copy based it. Right. There were a few things that did look at it as far as stepbacks from now, regional stuff or that were in conflict with what we already had. So there's a change with the method probably to the real deal. So, the measurement does is the firewall, um, option, which is the most of, um, even on how to provide. So that's on this cheap, all these red notes here. Several paragraphs on that. Any questions about any of that? All right, Monica, what else did we do? So next thing was on the material. Okay, let's see, and the information to do with condition, I think, okay, this is the line we've been adding now already, so then, it's obviously to do some additional upgrades to the clarity. That is exactly because it's been reassembled, that's basically, that it's in control, which is a couple changes in that, but clearly. All the numbers are out of that side. So basically what we've added is the applicant shall provide safety data sheets to the zoning ministry, Greg Republic's AP. This is the added part. As part of their site plan review, we shall provide updated data sheet as needed to ensure informational file with the county's current throughout the life of the project. Any questions or comments about that? Ma'am. Please tell me where you're going. It's number seven. The pages aren't numbered, but it's this right here. Down at the bottom. There's some red marks at the bottom. So, there's just a down question. It's just carrying on half of the board and the bills and their states for other types of things that are going on and can. We do have them for a lot of facilities that are in here industrial facilities, the things that they keep in list of, I have a materialist that share the love, the fire department, the LECC, the local emergency plan to be actioned next last night, and that's one of the things they discussed. The first possible safety director of public safety safety mentioned before, other food and batteries used for orange and what we had at that. So when I worked at one time through one of the regulated public health companies, I actually a couple of different ones. And we had material safety data sheets for everything. And even things you would have in your house, just working in everything in your family cloth, and just an enormous book, or a number of multiple books. And then is the current premise that we only keep materials safety dead, she put a book, hazardous materials, or I guess where do you draw a line? It's my first book. It's a hazardous material list. I don't know how extensive it is. I know there was some rosin facilities that were listed all on the list that Chris had, but I'm not sure how expensive it is. I guess what I'm saying is there's a material safety data sheet for everything you could ever imagine, every liquid, every creaming, every everything that could show up in a commercial environment. Photopolish, for example. eat it but it's got a day of sheep and sass. Soda. There's one for soda's. Okay. Well okay. There's one for a long meal. So soda's is under certain circumstances is explosive correct on this ground right? Yes. It's in food products.. I guess what I'm saying is are we creating and we inadvertently create an enormous burden on the county? There's a lot of time where you can add to that so that you're not storing thousands of material safety data. She's or conversely so that someone's on the violation. I mean, is there, is there, are there categories of material safety did? Who would be the number one? We have, we have an app on all our jobs because we don't want to keep up with the guy that's got some Windex out there. If OSHA came out so there's an app you can get and you scan the label and and there's your MSDS thing. So that's how we work around it to be OSHA requirements. I will talk to Chris Ross want to see what their definition is as far as what's included on their list and make sure if we can narrow that down some that we do as much as possible so that's what they need. Because that would probably be thought was to benefit the fire safety side of it. So I'll check with give them and see what EDC's are. I guess what I'm saying is which word now, there's a material safety data sheet for just anything you could manufacture. And any number of natural products, I'm sure a lot of them and gravel and all sorts of other things, somewhere there's some burning of that. I just like to see that burden because if you make it too complex, you can't actually do it. And I will check with MNC if there's some common narrowings we can do, some kind of work that you may have. Words as needed. How do the applications we can't expect to get the better storage? I don't really know. It's just kind of like solo in a thing. We didn't know how many two expect. We have had force 8 point and we've had another individual that has submitted applications for solo. If they've not been, you know, so excited, it's complete. Yet they're talking about converting their project to battery energy storage. And we've had several other potential solo developers asked where we are with the status of this because there's some interest. I'm expecting at least several, but I don't know what about the status. So, so limited to Canada, no problem. I mean, it's like asking how many cropping generators can load cell at home? These are basically function generators. They're fruits out of power when you don't have power, you don't have enough. This fruit is shifting power around on the timescatchable just like a diesel generator. And depending on how much restriction we put on smaller ones, you go ahead at any more application. And then the better question is how many would you expect to have over a certain size? And the question I was addressing was related to utility scale. It was the product that conditionally used to prevent it and that the plant material is used to prevent it. Alright, what was the next issue on there? The next issue was the reimbursement of the. So we had recommended when we talked about this a condition rather than making a regulation. The commission had recommended that we go ahead with the requirement. After talking some to Mechlerburg and Appomattox about the evacuation issue, which I'm going to do a moment. A lot of things come up about the various circumstances that can play into a situation, and whether it's what it's called by Leatherc's, or whether it's a third party, like in the case of Beckhamburg, and there's a lot of legal implications to so they. And I think based on that, and then looking at the differences in project and project sites and the potential impacts, there's really going to be no one size fits all of the area that you're going to have on that. So I think it may be better to look at a condition for legal counsel in it. You also run into the issue of state code, potentially changing as to what you can and cannot do. So that would be something that I was still looking at that as a condition to a project. Instead of doing it, that's just the plan to get regulated. Any questions or comments about that? All right, what was the vacuations that you covered that I guess? I will get into that. I did talk to Asumatic. I did not run the event at a curbsare. It actually been so long there, it was 17 years. The public safety personnel really that has been involved and that I was taught to so on what's in my classes owning. They do not have anything inserting that really impressive evacuation box. I was really impressed with the fact that they did not have anything in zoning that was really impressive, the vacillation for compensation, the evacuations or evacuees. They felt like it was really an overreach as far as zoning was concerned. And again, you run into that situation of the legal challenges associated with it, whose responsibility it is. talking to thatbert, they said pretty much the same thing, the incident that occurred there was in South Edel. I talked to there, fire, shaking, grain, wind, wind, wind, wind. And when he was telling me, he was even with the reimbursement to public safety, they had not been reimbursed yet by the company, because they were concerns and they made that payment. It was indicating some such responsibility and it was a third party involved in that because somebody wrecked their vehicle which ended up causing the incident rather than it actually being the facility involved. So because of that I think there's going to be a lot of implications and regulations we come up with may not be enforceable, it may not fall under local authority. So here I would look at that. If it's something you're looking at doing from a particular project, look at it as a condition and working very closely with legal counsel. Anybody good with that? All right, decommissioning, Monica. Decommissioning standards provided the specific language in there in a talent last time, indicating that we will be looking for an independent start for the professional engineer with expertise in battery and battery and she's George Fassal, the construction and industrial flight decommissioning to be this customers that line. That line is 10, but it's incorporated in it. That decommissioning is recommended. That bill by accident. Good deal. I have out tears. So for tier one, I do reach out to Faulkier County and I talk to Carol Williams, Carol Marshall, who works there as a planner. And they actually just adopted their ordinance in April. So really good timing. They ended up going with your career system. Just like we did, their determination was really based on the fact that if little lighting was national standards that the FDA, H55, that's where the body line is, it's just a whole lot easier to apply. The standards center there, and then they looked at all the hormone across the state and they felt like it was consistent with the regulations they were seeing. We talked about some of the challenges and they came up early with the same ones that we had noted, which was that it's difficult to determine where that point of division needs to be if you're going to separate that what we're here in two categories and then potential changes in future needs as technology for equipment, changing as is energy use and then how to monitor and force that to know what size somebody has in their home or whether or not somebody met access system and we already recognized that I. I think last time when Chris was here, and we talked about the school having their stations there that they have for their charging stations for their glasses. And it's something that I didn't have with my rate or. And I think when you get down to the residential level, there's certainly going to be a lot of difficulty determining whether or not somebody has a system and actually how long it will take. Did we have any idea on how large the bus system was? Did we have numbers? The number of the system. He said that that did not actually have the battery back on one of the, because I think that was your question. He said that it was three charging stations, but they did not have the battery. Like for example, if you were a Tesla or not, that's what people are. And if you're on your Tesla map or you're going to charge next, it's my understanding it from what I read, the charging stations that are called superchargers are superchargers because they store energy all the time when people are not charging their car to trucks. And then that way they can charge them faster when somebody plugs in. And I think my understanding is by extension of the brands other than Tesla also in some way have a light function such that Once you have a charging station, if you wanted to be able to charge whatever it's charging along or a truck or a car faster, you add batteries to it because that way you can put more energy into the vehicle than it's actually drawn from the grid at that moment at time because it drew energy earlier off of the day. Because that's just, you see what I'm saying. So I think when you talk about something like we have charging stations recognized, they told that your question about wherever you put batteries, those would be places where there's some economic tipping point where the owner of the charging station would say, I'm gonna pop out of batteries to get them to buy the module that puts the batteries. That's my understanding. So are there any comments or the three options or leave it like it is? Establish three tier and with two different options for establishing three tiers. What's the pulse? Leave it like it is. Well, that was one of the main issues of the war civil rights or senate backed up. We got a representative in the push of the fight. I think much of the show has talked it out and went through everything. I think the two tears are fine. When the discussion first started I thought three tears would be important but as you all talked about the different sides and everything I personally think two tears are fine. I totally agree with that also. There's some really dangerous electrical devices, transformers, and some other things that are in buildings that are just as dangerous or in relative to batter's doors that are regulated by NFPA and by the National Electric Code. So it's not willing to nearly. I mean, somebody's got to get a permit to hook this up and it's got to be done right. The amount of energy that's stored in the megawatts, you can convert the megawatt hours, can be converted to tools. If you do that, then take a gallon of heating oil and birthattage. It's a little bit of a starter that the average house stores more heating oil than some of these for the day ones. Now the difference is, even all of you said, don't fire work nearly as fast as hot as a batter, but that's not really compared to fireless people. That was Grisels here because as much as you did. The measured is toward inner. The biggest is these numbers, same for nothing. long problem. All right, the last thing Monica was the minimum loss as? Yes, so people got some Smith and Paul, who's recommending a five acre minimum of dental offering. I did look at some additional ordinances. Besides, as we had all you looked at it in the comparison, I did not find anyone other than one of mentioned last time which was particular accounting with the minimum that is five acres. We do this kind of thing, some of our other uses for the same reason, but I'm afraid we do okay on frame. I did go ahead and put a recommendation in there in section 1024 to you just said the first sighting agreement, that being decided with requirements, just to have a five-acre minimum loss on it? I'll make that exact same theory. Any thoughts on that? All right, so Monica, is the next step to then have a public hearing and then make a motion to adopt the ordinance or do we adopt the ordinance now? Then have a public hearing and then say, what's the procedure? It's a drafted right you can go ahead with the public hearing and then after you go here the public comment that will be made correct. Yes, sound. So I'm doable and we can maybe get then you get your public input and if we wanted to change it to 10 acres or whatever if there was a lot of people out the door saying no I want three tears then we can discuss it at that point. Alright, any other discussion on this topic? Mr. Chairman just something noting back to fire risk and I cannot speak for Chris but I'm thinking he's talking about hazardous materials because just being on fire department at every truck we have we have a hazardous materials manual on every single fire truck to know what you get into which it does not. You know you can be open and think up and find Windex and I mean it's only hazardous materials so I think the data she that he's going to be talking about without clarifying, I think it's going to be hazardous materials, not all materials. And that's because we don't have a way to check that fire department wise, the book's only going to tell us hazardous. And that's part when we do the conditional use. If we did a conditional use, shall meet with the local fire department, shall give them all your stuff, shall tell them if you change anything, and the important stuff that you got on there. All right, well, the next item, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth, eighth I'm putting it up. And your plan to have the public hearing at that meeting? Yes, ma'am. Because in 28, it's to cut off a win. You have to have a decision. May I put a word to simplify? I will. If it's, what did you say in 2026 of being upstate New York and in a church camp that you don't go ahead without? It would be wonderful. Good for the 26th. Is that required motion or anything? No, it does, but you're setting it for and we will notice that that will mind that big thing. Okay, we'll do the 26th. And then we'll have the public hearing for the battery energy storage system at that point. Okay, is that good? Good, good. All right, I think we've done our due diligence on that topic. Staff report, Monica. I have provided a written staff report in the package primarily for some say, over all of the projects that have been as well as some other information that we've been using for a year. I would just go over a couple of days to change red dots to all of the semini red actions that come in for this at the board meeting yesterday. Provided some updates on their revenue and their timelines and also making a request on the Randolph project. What they came back at last for was that the storm water basins that were really supposed to be wet basins. They were going to change the dry basins. They're going to have to be much longer because of the EQ requirements, but since they're going to be drive ascent, they're going to be able to put the outside of the baseline. This isn't something that was captured in the conditions in which we're going to put something that was just got publicly, so the board gives a plea to that allowing Dan to buy other company's lighter to make that happen for them. A few other updates. I did that on their red zone too. They can contact it up in the stories and be storage paid. Do not have an application that will come through the staff or do you completely yet? But they are looking traditionally in a battery-based board project in the future. And of course, take aroundROD, we are expecting their application of the Edmunds Act from there when they're doing the DINDOM. They are expecting some finishing of that. Sometimes not in the next week, so we should have that right at the top of the agenda for June. Mr. Patel, the application was carried yesterday at the planning as for me at the approved so that's been sort of the process now. We'll be working with him as he will explore what is convening the storm there in Wiley's bird. And then the upcoming meetings, we will have the battery to the storage fornets here. I do have an application now for health and education talent. still building on a barn full highway and redhead. And then we'll start that table, the solar review next month as well. On the table, solar. I noticed that Chairman said at the beginning that it was delayed to do to an error. There were two issues. The first thing was that there was a staff error and the report that we did not catch the applicant notified us of concerns and we looked at it and the language did not really line with what was done in the staff analysis. We're going to go back and revisit that for the group. It's working on that. And then they also want it address some of the things that were noted as deficiencies. It was part of it was that they just kept providing enough information. So they're coming back with some information on those as well. So that would be done. The staff report will be updated as needed. And then we put all that back out for next. So it'll be obvious what the change was from this because I'm still, it seems vague about what the error is, but maybe it needs to be until... Well, the error, I think in the recommendation, is indicated that no components of the comprehensive plan were met, and when you look at their analysis, there are a number of components that they did comply with. That language had been changed for what it was originally. I'm going to hit review it, so we did feel like that they had gone too far to the extreme and focusing on everything and not pointing out that there were specific parts that were were That's almost that side and then like I said they had information that won't provide some updates on as well And I will mention too we are still working on the 20's Creek site visit We had a date scheduled and then we found out that the power was going to be shut off there. The association was being worked out for four days this past week. And in between that and the weather, we ended up canceling it. We have four commissioners that have told me they're interested. But if anybody else is interested in doing that, let me know. We're still four days scheduled on that, but I hope to get done before the end of this month. Thank you, Barca. Any questions? No, I don't know. I'm going to say I have a standard spray for what I got. We're trying to have one straight up right? It's many people that want to go, but only two people can go inside the fence at the same time. Is that how they're dealing with the ninja? right because they need a list and say now I have a panel of who's going to be there. I think the plan is just to be working public meeting at the side where it's going to be. And then, so they're going to be like in public meeting at the side where it's a thing in the mid So they're looking at two commissioners doing tour at the time, but it will be on the same day Sequential Yeah and that come on actually overseas, their site that comes actually working only for now So we're trying to do it in a kitchen with that com that we do since the end I'm really not everyone went but the way the channel that Drogridge where the majority of the information was communicated to us in an entire group by standing immediately outside of the fence, which seemed to be preferable if you would. Because I understand that only you know they only get to it because people are talking about where our dad's going. No problem. The thing that all the sites would've been to, I guess my point is that if these two people here have one set of questions in here, one set of answers, and these two people here are a different set of questions and answers, as much as possible, you better ask questions and answers as a group. There's an outside and a side of the the slide. You should suggest that to them. Okay, and I will talk to them. I know it's a little more challenging because I think, you know, Commissioner Strong asked for this upon it and she primarily asked for a specific reason she wanted to do an electromagnetic field test there. So the first situation, you know, what she wants to do maybe different, her questions maybe different than what somebody else would ask. So I don't know, but we'll try to know right before I understand it. No, I understand it. I would have no problem, for example, with Mr. Strong, toward a larger area of the site. For most of us, if we just go immediately inside and see a couple of things, come on. I guess I got a question. If the four of us meet, is it then open to the public? It would have to be, and that's the challenge I've had. Right. Okay. I want to cut off we're to Commissioner's time. Does anybody have anything you may want to add or express? an embarrassing moment for me. I didn't think I would like to add or express. This is an embarrassing moment for me. I didn't, I was lost at the motion because I was expecting them to ask individually. So I didn't say anything on the red oak. So I apologize, but I would have voted against it. So I don't know how that works. And maybe I shouldn't be saying anything at this point. So, but I would have maybe, I obviously would have been the only note because either I didn't hear everybody vote, and that's why I was waiting. So I apologize. That's my fault I probably should have done a roll call. I think we haven't passed for something like that. Okay. That's all that was done. Too late to go back and do that or anything. Let me ask this question. Does anybody want to redo and do a voice of my person about it? Well, I would only, I really thought we were headed in the right of what the county recommended and since the actual applicant had no problem and said no solar panels would be stored there. I really was really taken aback by leaving that broken sailor panels off. I mean, I get what Mr. Andrews was saying about, you know, as far as the tractor trailer, if there was a problem. And as Mr. Morton pointed out, you know, I mean, that would be different than actually leaving and having that as kind of a junkyard for solar panels. So I mean, I know I should have said, I apologize. I know I'm out of water. No, I should have done that. And if in the future, please point a order or something. Check me on that. No, I'll fix that. Sorry. My apologies on that. I guess we could, if you would like we could have the minutes reflect that you were opposed to this is that. If I'm the only one then there's probably no need for it but I thought we were going to go with what the county had recommended so that would have been my. You know I have the same sentence as 11. I was thinking there was going to be a roll call all of a sudden he was done. I'm sorry. Mr. Chairman, just reflect on, I was trying to err on more so the side of a caution, just in case there's nobody in the county that patrols And rather looks for solar panels and broken solar panels and storage solar panels So I thought if it would be better to be a controlled site And he doesn't even want to use it But I wish we would do more often there would be a controlled site and say This is where they can be because if we have one site to go then look at we can go to this one site and look at it but when you got a truck driver coming in running on a trucking log and he looks to a load of solar panels at this round-off solar later on your and he leaves I mean we don't follow him up the road he goes out runs out hours pulls over the taste of freeze and sleeps for three days but I mean at least with the sites that are approved, they have conditions set for if there's broken panels and all. I don't think we need to have a junk yard for solar panels. And that's kind of what we approved was that, well these could stay there indefinitely. And I think there's conditions. There's a few regulated. The area of the project has conditions that they have to meet with other panels. And even forcing up individual projects, you won't have that jump yard. Right, Monica? I mean, it's very specific conditions they have to meet each individual project. The only challenge with that is they've changed over time. Once we've realized it was an issue, there was language that went in there like these damage solar panels, they have to go to a recycling facility, the land bill, or back to the manufacturer's flag. See, that's what I'm talking about, what we need to do. We don't need to be storing bikes. Yeah, over projects, like, there's going to be a store somewhere. I think I got to go back. Yeah, I thought we got to go back. I thought we started the courthouse. I just thought I could be wrong, but I thought we'd start somewhere. It's where it's going to go straight to the land. I think that issue is. They need to be at control stores. But I thought we put something in courthouse and I know it put everybody on spot. My point is I'm almost certain that we did not include that with movie Creek. And so I was going to ask when Courvor was supposed to do with that added to Courvor. Courvor's conditions were upgraded. So they were essentially like CPVS? Yeah. Well, this is anecdotal, and not much you all take this experience. But, and I'm not sure if it was a meeting that I shared or it was before I was the chairman. And I was thinking it was courtyards, but mostly that I don't remember which project it was. We were talking about that condition, about no broken panels that would be stored on the site of the Zoro project. And we were, at the time, again, here's saying my recollection, we were thinking about the Rebellion discussion about storming. Someone from the public could come and cite it something that happened some other state with how panels, but percent of the panel just damaged by her by a tornado. And in my lifetime we have had tornadoes here that not as common as Mother State. And so we were talking about, which other project was the first project that we approved that said you can't have any broken panels in the side. After the meeting was entirely over on the sidewalk, I did not just pay an exparte conversation here, but rather someone just said to me, I believe that person wasn't attorney-fold. I don't remember whether they were a soul attorney or someone here that was a toast to soul, but said to me, you realize there's absolutely nothing that stops them from driving the broken panels down to any existing warehouse and the example they used was key food and storm the solar panels. And I think that's the point. And if you take that as an anecdote and hearsake, but I'm going to say that that's a pretty good recollection of the conversation to the place. I don't think there's anything untoward about that conversation. This person was just trying to inform me that you're chasing your tail, which is the point. Patrick is making. But if you really, and I'll just say this, I'm not sure I would vote me in favor of this. I'm not making this as a motion. But this board can now take up whatever it wants to take up. The board soon rises to gave us that authority. We could take up a use for storage of broken solar panels. And I'm looking at Blundo, not because that I feel like you standing anywhere particularly but because you had the training class. And I think in the training class that they told us enrichment was, if you have a specific concern about a use, you take that concern and break it out as a separate use. If our matrix had a use called storage of broken soldier, which everybody in the world would have a fit of them, because all we're going to allow that, no, if you create a use, and make it conditional. Now, I've said you can't do that because it's a specific use, and it takes it away from the O-bungeist-storing things. Monica, you've also had class, and you have a degree in this. Do you agree with that statement that if we created the use specifically for the storage of broken solar panels, we would do what Patrick is pointing at, which I think is a really good point. And therefore you wouldn't be able to do it because you would be doing the use that you didn't have to see your people. And if it rely on you, use the zoning ordinance to legislate, no one can store the broken soul accounts. And it might work. I mean, it's something that I've never heard of anybody doing something like that to that reason and start on something. Well, in the class that we had, Sam's anniversary, I'm telling you, I think it was in this presentation, it was excellent. I went to the in-person class, different from the one that you had. I went to the VCE version, you went to the J-Tech version, but they were similar. I think it was the San Zander in the presentation. They were, and he gave some examples now. They were all urban examples. But his recommendation was that you have something, and something else kind of naturally It goes along with it it and it's the thing that goes along with it if you don't like it. And if you all provide and listen to your court and listen to this, I'm trying to take credit but I think I'm the person that said we should break batteries off and so all can around us batteries and so we go together. Big jam assumes the batteries and solar go together. We're here to get some batteries tonight, because we specifically said it was a different use from solar. That's the same argument as breaking out storage of broken panels. Because right now we're assuming if you're building a solar farm, obviously you're solar panels because you've got to receive them and it's going to take some time to put them on. So we break out storage of broken solar panels and specific use and all of a sudden it's not implied in another use. It's its own use and you got to come get a CUP and then subject to maybe there is a decent way to storm. But you't stick with someone. To your point if you said no broken storage or solar panels, okay cool, I put it over here in my parking lot. Then we can't say nothing about it. Yeah, you can't say anything. Is that right Monica? The thing is what Patrick is suggesting is to have a place that has a storm runoff area that is and a place that's suitable to handle that runoff instead of just partnering them inside a pavement where it just runs down the road and into the room Well, we're, we can't build such a place. I'm saying by creating a use, then you open the door or somebody come along and make a hard move they have such a place that's private property and they figure out some way to make money on it and we decide whether or not we're going to allow it. But right now, storage of broken solar panels fits in this broader corridor. Is storage of broken stuff and not, you know, if you can, as one of the families that stores a lot of broken stuff. a lot a lot of storage of broken stuff in Charlotte County because it's usually considered ancillary to the fact that we were farming and we broke these things. Or we were logging and we broke these things. So right now, you know, the state-of-the-state-state parallel organization says, well, we were doing what we normally do and some of our stuff got broken. Well, if you make it a separate piece. I would win the condition of current right now and what was added was that not only that it could only stay there for 30 days but where it had to go when it left because we had a different pool of work that it could be there for 30 days but it didn't say where it had to go after that. What we added was that it had to go to the layup field and it had to go to the side where it had to go back to the manufacturer. And it doesn't address any that might come here from somewhere else. And the thing with the broken panels on the side is that it has already stipulations about being out of the ladder and being away from wildlife and things like that. With this side, you know, if you're okay with that, you still didn't put it in those things in place there. You know, if that's the concern, then you won't be found in the wild other things. You know, those stipulations, those are the things that you have to separate your requirements. So a lot of companies can be involved in their science. Into that notion, Mr. Chairman, I mean, just trying to be realistic. We were absolutely kidding ourselves and living in a fairy tale land if we think a solar panel breaks in the middle of a solar farm. And somebody takes off running and goes out there and hurries up an unhoops this thing and puts it in a camper shell and covers it up with a tarp and goes up here and starts recording 30 days, gets a landfill. I mean it's just, let's not act like it's having that, that's a joke. They're doing a PM and that's those, it's going to be hundreds, hundreds of solar panels have been broken for 30 or 60 days and they get chance to do the PM and fly the drone over and it's heat seeks and finds all the ones that aren't putting out and finds out that they're broken. So tack like all this other stuff is happening. It's something that might make you sleep better at night but if you believe it, you know it's oceanfront property in Charlotte County. I think that's along the same lines of not putting four shells and you go when you're duck hunting. Right. Somebody gonna put four shells in there. But what they do is they make it so if you do get caught doing that, it's not good. I mean, they're going to slam you when you do get caught. I think it's a definition to you. I mean, in my mind, if it's on a trailer, it's in transit. The minute that a fog lift comes under it, and set to his panels off somewhere, that my mind is stored. So I think it's a definition thing here. And like you, if you sell in a load of hay, you're going to wait to the trailer's loaded to send off a load of hay. And they're going to wait to the trailer's loaded to send off a load of solar panels. I mean, just because they're business people. You know, I can't imagine they're going to say we're going to rent a trailer and they're going to only put three panels on and say hurry up and land field because our 30 days is up. That's just, that's not going to help. So there's just a controlled site. I just would see it as being so much better than them saying, well, this is how the planning commission is, so we better than them saying, well this is how the planning commission is, so we better go ahead and don't need back 40. Because which one of us is going to go find the back 40? You can go down the red oaks and look at that site. She's not saying bro just speaking. I've heard a lot of folks talking about trying to figure out all the things the solar company needs to need in terms of services. Somebody's going to start up another grading company. You know, train electricians, train solar, or installers, or lease, or any of these things, roll-offs, we need to be thinking the same way, this yeast that we've allowed creates other uses. And we got to start and those to the matrix, or we don't have any control over them because otherwise they're just going to do those uses also. And we broke out batteries, which I think was a good idea. I'm in favor of batteries, but I'm in favor of regulating them quickly separately. And maybe broken, storage broken panels is another one, and maybe I don't know if storage you got when I stay or clean up. Think about a lay down yard, you know, think about just from our perspective, some to be thinking is if they need some of the 15, 360 corridor we got a industrial park, then might bring some to our table if they want them if you courthouse solar or somebody at that end wants to have a place when the county could move that plenty of room down there then the soybeans and fields that could be a nice lady on your there's potential here that we might be missing out on that we need to try to read the same benefit. Any other questions, comments concerned? Yes, sir. I'm just going to address the one that there is issue. I think it should just be noted that it's... Okay. It was brought up for Commissioner time. It did not change the outcome they would send on motions. Okay. Anybody else want to join that? Thank you Dan. Alright, it's your motion to a jar. So moved. Second. Voice vote. Thank you Dan. All right. It's your emotion to a jar. It's our move. Second. Voice vote. Let's do a roll call. All in favor. All in favor. All in favor. All in favor, leave.