So it is 6 p.m. May 15, 2025. We'll call the EPC meeting to order. Roll call. Juan Lee is here. Justina Garcia is here. Callie here. Albert Viego is here. and we have a new member that has been approved by the council. Mr. John Dominguez will be our six. John Dominguez is here. I'm here. Please join me in the flex loop. Any? Yeah. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic with stands. Okay, do we have a number four public comment? Do we have any public comment this evening? No. You want to wait till the number 11 then at that public comment? Okay, since it's not on the agenda. So we have a consent calendar to approve and we made a recommendation in the past that if we don't we have a quorum we can just approve because ours is not a ordinance making but rather recommendation in regards to presenting to the council. So there are four dates. This is November 21st, 2024. January 16th, 2025. February 20th, 2025, April 16th, 2025. And the April meeting really was somewhat not official because we didn't have a quorum at the time when we began. And so, can I a motion to approve from the no changes? I move we approve the minutes with no changes for. Number 24th, January 16th. I'm sure, Kelly. February 26th and April 16th. Then can I get a second? I second that. Okay. Okay. We'll do a roll call. Mr. Diagomis? Yeah. Kwan is a yes. Yes. That's just you know. And then Patricia. Yes. Okay. So we have an approval so we can file. Committee business we got rid of the other segment it looks like so we're just you know kind of reported together rather than two separate components and it seems to be overlapping and now we have Mr. So we have a full house today. Before we get into committee, I'd like to have Mr. John Dominguez kind of share his background a little bit and the reason for wanting to be a part of the CPC meeting. Okay. Yes. For the last 16 years, I work for the Honeyt Library Botanical Gardens as a security training officer and a lot of the events that I was in charge with basically I had to do with emergencies in training personnel and staff 400 staff members what to do in case of emergency and it's all related to what the EPC is doing are my Workplace was 210 acres, which is a smaller version of La Haber Heights, but involved basically the same thing knowing where to go, knowing what your resources were at, what was available, what roads were available, because it was a pretty big place to be at workplace. So also in 2019, 2020, it was part of the EPC, and work got gonna hectic, so I ended up quitting the EPC to concentrate on work. Then eventually I retired, and I started helping out City Hall and Fire Department and EPC in different projects, and I'm strung with that. And that's that have been going on for about a year and three months now. And I thought, well, I think it's time to actually be a member. It'll give me a little bit more of a voice and direct input into what's going on. And just have you to participate and hopefully improve the emergency plans that we have and making the residents aware of what's available. So I guess that's it. Okay, so with your current work that you have been doing with the zones and also part of the fire watch, it would be okay for us to put you as a committee lead for coordinating communication with fire watch folks and maybe the liaison to connect us to become and work together more effectively rather than as two separate bodies and then maybe they can work through you and present updates as to what they're doing so that we don't overlap but really work together and Trying to get things done for our emergency preparedness committee. Is that okay? That's perfect because I forgot to mention I'm also a fire watch member. Okay remember for a few months and Yes, that's what I was planning to propose myself. Okay, so fire watching I would say the other component would be you've been a key initiator of our quarterly cleanup. So maybe also coordinate the quarterly cleanup aspect of incordinating that would be great. Now that you are part of the EPC. Yep, I've been doing that too. Okay, thank you. All right. So committee reports, grants and articles Ms. Garcia? Sure. On the grants that's been slow going, I know our former mayor and councilman, person Carol Engelhart, did follow up with me. She said while they had been working on pressing items like the housing element, we would get back to grants. So we need to continue that conversation. In terms of the stories, I'm still in touch with the editor Dan over the Heights life. I know he's been running a lot of cal fire material and fire prevention messages by Mayor Pispiza. I'm not sure if you saw the May issue, for example. Also a nice article in welcoming Fire Marshal Ryan Dorgensen. I did see that was great. I, he had sent through a story that a Laohabrahite resident wrote. It's David Nolte about fire prevention and he detailed his personal account of the work he's been doing on his property. Dan ran that by the EPC and fire department to make sure everything that's included in the story and all the recommendations are things that the fire department would recommend. It's a great story. I'm sure that will be running. I don't know if it's coming here in this next June issue. And then I had been in touch with John here about the volunteer program and the work that he's been doing with the volunteer program and making sure we develop a story for Height's life and that can also include a reminder about Albert's cert program and other zones and other volunteer opportunities which are on the list for all of the volunteer opportunities that John is putting together. So yeah, that's everything. Any questions? None? We'll go on to Zone Neighborhood Emergency List, Ms. Kelly. So I'm starting something new after our discussion that we needed to figure out a way to engage in the different neighborhoods. So starting Saturday, June 14th at my house every month on a second Saturday It's going to be called. Second Saturday, food swap. I have a huge tree that has a huge tree in my front yard that'll always be shaded so we can do it through the summer month. So the neighbors, and I agreed that starting that day, I'll set up from 8.30 to 9. And then from 9 to 11.30, people are invited to bring any of any foods that they have raised on their property, including like honey nuts. We have wine makers that can't sell their wine, but they can trade it for other food items. Also, some of the neighbors said, can we just do baked goods and can we swap those every month, which would be fantastic. So that's probably going to be one of the biggest things. So starting Saturday June 14th for the next eight months at my house on the second Saturday we will have a food swap no money just bring some food, trade some food and the neighbors are already talking about bringing their chairs I'll supply coffee and lemonade from my tree. So maybe we can use that as a vehicle to get information out and then do a checklist as to what emergency products that they may need or if there's any oxygen needed, generators needed and so forth. We can maybe compare it to checklist and then keep notes so we can keep that into our YGSA plan. Yeah, absolutely. That's a great, great idea. I'll have the forms. And I think the neighbors will see, but they seem more enthusiastic about this than anything else we've thought of. I thought of, so we'll see. OK, well, thank you. Any questions? None. Okay. Then for myself. Some of the workshops that I've been thinking is possibly work with now. We had the city of La Conde of Los Angeles come into a presentation and also locally. The Red Cross also has a emergency preparedness program. and I'd like to invite them maybe as our possible next topic because again, emergency is not just limited to wildfires. We are seeing more frequent activity and earthquakes that are happening more frequently here, locally. And those are things also we need to look at. Wind events is another, you know know we got to keep an eye on because really our weather pattern is changing our As we saw our Santa Ana winds came much later too much later than normal Which typically would be October November or wind events, but it happened in January So it's things are changing and we need to stay in front of that, especially with our community. And I believe there's three city mayors of Woodier, LaHabra and LaHabra Heights had a helicopter ride and viewed the brush exposure that we have. And they all agreed there needs to be something done about it because in the event that does go up and poses a significant danger. So I will coordinate with our Red Cross contact and see if we can set up a date and that would be probably I'm hoping it would be July. It would be a good time as our second anniversary to our statewide USA program. So as we continue to do that, other than that, it was kind of nice to see at the last cleanup event even though we didn't have it because a sudden rain event that happened that prevented us from getting on the road were three new volunteers showed up from the city. So we're getting out there. The effort that Mr. Dominguez is doing is great. And so that needs to kind of multiply. And on that day was a love your city event throughout the nation. LaHabra had their own and they identified a senior citizen who was not able to clean up her home for many, many years. So we invited a nonprofit organization to come out and we trimmed our trees, cut the branches, removed toxic and whatever debris that needed to remove, because it was a fuel source, and the city supplied a 40 yard two of those containers that we were able to fill. So that's something that I like to kind of plan ahead for 2026 for our city, and make it a love La Habara Heights event, and we'll get some sponsors, we'll get some shirts made so that we can utilize that shirt to kind of further advertise the effort that we want to do in regards to that. So keep an eye for that, and the best thing is getting the community together work a couple hours, clean it up. If the city needs the park cleaned up or any other city property need to be cleaned up, that could be a that we can do We can use church groups also to come and assist and then high school Volunteers could also be a good component for their volunteer hours also so That definitely will work on that other than that Any questions If none, I think just says a final comment We are coming to a two year portion of our approval. We now have about a year and a half to get our three year plan updated. So to be from January 2027. So we've got to get start working on it and I will coordinate with both Fire Marshal and Chief to see what other things that we can incorporate that may have changed in the last two and a half three years since we began this project and make sure that we stay ahead of the game rather than react to what's happening. So that's it. Mr. Rampson, any updates from your category? Okay. Mr. Viegomos. Okay, sir. I haven't been able to participate in a couple of events that were out there. There was something that was Established last week that I missed. I will announce that the Fire Department and County continued to update their Sirk training that's available in the area. I believe there's one that's coming up in El Monte and another one of these old sandalys. I just saw one today that's going to be at the Norwalk City Hall and it starts on June the 6th. So if anyone's interested, either give me a call or take a look at the Norwalk City Hall website. They have the listing up there and information on how to register for that three day event. It's a weekend event with Friday's Heritage and Sunday. Also, I'm starting to get some bulletins around some virtual workshops that are taking place through the FEMA organizations or organization. There's one that's taking place next, what's May 21st. It's called Shelter at Home. It's a continuing education around from CERT. They're starting to do some of these to kind of help augment some of the training that you would get in class. So it's virtual. I believe it's like an hour and a two hour session where they kind of cover these topics. I'll try to give myself signed up for this and this is something I just saw this morning. It was going through my emails. And then the other thing is I've been working to train, connect with some of the other area, search teams, I'm getting the most cooperation from the Lomarata search team and we've been able to participate in some of their sessions. And I'm just talking to Patty about some examples of things that they have shared with me that they can do at some of our community events. As far as helping to educate some of the concepts that are provided through cert, the use of the fire extinguisher is an example. Other things to do, other reminders, just quick things to kind of help. One, raise the awareness that folks need to be mindful of and also kind of make it more engaging. So we'll try and see what we can do to take some of the material and turn that into something we can use for the concerts in the park. The other thing you're talking with Lomerado, they also have, well they have material, but they also are giving me information on how to pull down or grab some pre-created material, printed material that we can also use. Again, no cost. Some of that's available through FEMA. And so I just looked at the FEMA site this morning and it is back up and available. So I'm going to start to pull some of that information that you know might be of use for some of the events that we're doing. And that's it. I'm, oh, the only thing I was thinking about doing is I will start to put together some short of news letter. I'll train kind of format this. So the information I just shared here will be something that I could share. And as I get notifications around training or other things like that, I'll try and put that in there. I don't know that monthly is the right time. I'll figure it out and just start to put something out there so that we get the folks that have signed up engaged and aware of what's going on. And then I guess the last thing is maybe after the meeting we can talk around with the fire department of trying to see if we can do in one of our events to put together a search training or a search exercise for the folks that have signed up within the Haber Heights. I just to make sure that we're engaged and we know who they are. I see what else we can do to kind of support the team that's starting to come together. Okay, thank you for that. Just to update, we didn't touch it, but our quarterly cleanup was postponed to coming May 24th at 6.45 AM is the gathering time here at the city community center, City Hall, and it'll be about a two-hour project north and south of of Hossein in the road. And then during Fourth of July, Firewatch to prevent any potential fire exposure from fireworks. And then the other things that we can look at is the concerts in the park to distribute information as we did in the last, you know, last couple years to set up a booth. booth and distribute information and get community signups. It's not a very effective venue, but at least if we can get five or six people during all those concerts, it'd be great because people are there to listen to music and enjoy their evening. So if they combine and visit, at least we'll continue to push forth our agenda. I didn't want to kind of circle back to the Sir, Mr. Dominguez. I know you've been working with or communicating with City of La Habra in regard to their Sir program. So I think we need to coordinate that with Mr. Viegomis so that we're all on the same page and you could update him as to what's going on there. So you want to share anything on that? Yes, that was going to be my first follow-up. Is that, yes, I do want to coordinate with you now. I think Lahabra cert is about to have an exercise in a month or two. And I've been, I've got a couple of emails that supposedly, they're going to notify me as soon as that's available. So I can, so I'm trying to coordinate with you on that. So hopefully we can get something going. Yeah, Dave, I heard something I haven't seen anything official on the La Habra. La Marada also mentioned something as well. I know there's separate events but it does sound like there's a couple of potential opportunities coming up. Yeah, I think one of the things that attracts me to La Habra more than I'm raised, it's right there. There are neighbors that, you know, they're going to respond to us and we're going to respond to them if something happens. So, they're literally right across the street from us. So, and it's been an effort to try to connect and get information back by this happening slowly. So, I do have a couple of other comments. I do want to ask about some possible articles for the Height's Life and justina, I need to coordinate with you. But the first one that I'd like to have hopefully coming up is this QR code that I have here. It's basically a QR, I think it stands for quick reference, where you scan and go to the page that the QR takes you to. And it's basically for, as a reference for the residents to have, in case they haven't signed up for some of these apps. And specifically, the Paul's point for knowing what's going on with the Farty Department, as I see on Facebook, the community, La Haber Heights Facebook site. When they hear the Farty Department or they see smoke, they go on Facebook and say does anybody know? And the first thing I think of, you don't have Pulse Point to you, because otherwise, if it's a block from you, you need to know faster than an hour from now and somebody decides to respond to your inquiry. So, you know, pulse point, very very important watch duty, another app, my shake, the earthquake app. Then there's and I provide two options. One is for iPhones and the other one's for Android mobile phones and then the last four QR codes is for Guac Talk. Notify me which also goes to the La Haberite website as far as signing out for different notifications from La Haberite's city hall. For council meetings when the commissions are meeting and anything like that. Alert, LHH, again for emergency alerts from LaHover Heights. And the last one is the one that I also wanted to see what you folks think of it as members. If I have any input back from you, if you were to scan that code now, if you can possibly do it with your phones,'ll see it's going to take you to a prototype sign up form for the La Habra Heights city to see what the residents might be interested in joining to participate as a volunteer. I think it's got like 15 or 20 choices. They have not been officially approved. I'm waiting for Council Member Miss Engelhart and Mr. Woolrich to get together along with me to discuss the wording of the form. Make sure it's all possible to do. And once that's done, then I think what I want to do, we're just to hopefully approach Height's Life and publish this. So folks can have that as reference as far as QR codes and a way, a connection to the residents for them to be able to sign up to the different volunteer options. So that would be one article, hopefully we can think about it in the near future. The next article that hopefully we like to publish in the Height's Life is about the robes that are connecting to the outside world in case we need to exit the community. Problem with that is that I've had a medical problem with my left eye and I have not been able to actually work too much in the computers, I have not finished it. So if anybody has any time to help me, if you can approach me afterwards, I'll tell you what kind of help I need to get this done to get that ready to hopefully again approach a high-slif for another reference articles for the community have, including an electronic version of it, anybody can download with the QR code and or many forms that it'll be online for them to print it out and whatever size they wanted to print it out as a reference to having their emergency kit or up in the wall to know which are the roads that lead out of here. And I think that would be especially useful for new residents who may be only used to knowing one way in and out. But there's other options. So, and the other two things I wanted to talk about is that other two articles that I'm thinking about is the utility shutouts for electrical and gas, which I did publish a version of five years ago when I was a PC member before. I I like to get an upgraded version of it. Instead of reinventing the wheel, it's the last one I'm gonna put together, make sure it was all okay and approved by everybody that I knew around me. But this time around to make it easy, I wanna see if I can approach the cert organization officially and ask permission to just take the instructions as they have it in the manual, the 2019 cert manual for shutting off electricity and shutting off gas. And I've already experimented, it's easy enough to take that PDF, turn it into word and copy and paste it and it's done. But I just need the permission. I did approach one of the certain websites yesterday, online, and I've asked a general question if anybody knew who would be the contact person. But I'm trying to see if maybe you might have some other leads who might be a person to actually give permission to do this. Because I'm assuming it's a win-win situation. I'm not, you know, I'll make sure that the Height Slip inputs all the proper acknowledgments. It's a certain, it originates from the Cert Manual, 2019 Cert Manual. But again, it's something that we'd like to have as a reference, hopefully, and republish it once again in the Height Slip. It's very hard to find anything that was published five years ago in the Height Slife. If you go to their website and try to find any one article, you're going to be spending quite some time to find anything because you've got to go through HPDF and go down the line to try to find anything. And also, what I like to do with all these projects that I'm talking about, put it on the page, the EPC page. All these references, the QR codes, the maps, the links. That's what I was doing before when I was the EPC members producing articles, have the Height Slip, publish it, and provide links on the EPC page. So I'd like to continue with that. But again, bottom line is if anybody wants to chip in and help, I can use that help right now because I have limited visual time in the computer right now. So I guess that's basically it. Yes, sir. So if you have some time to assist, please reach out to member John DeBinges and we can go from there. Just a couple of things before we go on to verbal updates from the community outreach program and brush clearance. A couple of things that I wanted to address posted on Facebook is the bank checking is a follow-home robbery. If you go to an ATM and you withdraw cash, these folks will follow you all the way home. And so that activity is up. The other is the home invasion based upon these burglar's. Now utilize Wi-Fi cameras to see the pattern. So if you're a business owner or you tend to have valuable items that you transport. They're patient, they'll install. So the key takeaway in this comment is that know your home. If something is abnormal, look into it and make sure you see your surroundings because these folks will go in and out of your house and within five minutes so ransacked and they're gone. They're going to grab cash, jewelry, whatever it is that's valuable. In certain situation, a person safe was just taken where I believe there's over $120,000 worth of jewelry that was in there. So if they are that valuable, take a look at also bank safes and bolts. Those are another alternative to keep property away from your home. And so you can have emergency documents there and whatnot. But just the two things to keep everyone alert as these theft events are happening and we're seeing an escalation of it. So the best way to do it, they'll make yourself a victim, know your surroundings, see if you know if you're taking large amounts of cash out of the bank, make sure you protect that asset. But that's it. So we'll move on to verbal updates, a community outreach program. I don't think we have the city manager here today. So will you like talking to them? Yeah, I'm speaking in part behalf. So upcoming events in La Haber Heights, we have the free workshop on living with coyotes. It's going to be presented City Hall on May the 22nd at 630. We're going to have a guest speaker from L.A. County Agricultural Commissioner. So learn about coyote biology safety tips and laws we've probably seen a great uptick in the presence of an animal that's used to not being so crowded. So now they're coming, they're hungry, and they're pretty big. A lot of these animals that I see when I'm on the road. You already talked about the makeup litter pickup on Hacienda Road, on the 24th. Quarterly cleanup will be held June the 21st from 8 a.m. to noon at the park. Bokey items, green waste and electronics will be accepted. No hazardous waste. And the regular Hussey and Delitter pickup will be held on June the 21st, and we're gonna meet at City Hall at 6.45. As you may, or wherever music in the park, Siri starts June the 18th featuring the group called the answer. And lastly, the Ellic County Household Hazardist Waste Roundup will be held July the 12th from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the park. I did want to follow up on a couple things or just one thing. So I have a friend that lives down the street. He is the cert coordinator for LA City. So if we have a need to keep it local instead of having our people go out of La Habra Heights, we can bring him here and have him help us with cert. So that's an option if you want to entertain that thought. Other than that, that's all I have. Thank you. Any questions for Chief Marshall? Martin? None, we'll move on to our Fire Marshall. Update us please. Good evening, good evening everyone. So as you all know May 1st was the commencement of our annual Brush Clarence inspection phase. We all know that it is a continual process throughout the year. However, the initial kickoff was May 1st. I have brought on one new seasonal seasonal inspector, his name is Andre. He came to us from Mountsack College. He was working in the offices with us as one of the community college interns and he did such a fantastic job. We decided to bring him on as our seasonal inspector. In addition to that, I have also interviewed for a second inspector. We budgeted for a second position for the seasonal inspector. This gentleman will be coming on in the new fiscal year, so after July 1st. And I've also met with cell-cal gas, the habitat authority, as well as matrix oil, and discussed my expectations as they meet not only California fire code but also our La Haber Heights local ordinance in terms of all things brush clearance and vegetation management. In the report I'll be happy to take any questions. Any questions? All right. None for you. We're good there. Okay. Public comments? We don't have a card, but if you can state your name and... Bruce Thomas, Pantyoy Place. Just several little things. I just had quite a talk with Richard Beckman, who was one of our firemen up here as a kid. 14, I think he was. He's BC, or was retired from Sierra Madre. He teaches real hondo. He's been around a bit. You mentioned grants. He mentioned something that we hadn't thought of. They are our federal grants that can be gotten. He sort of knows about them. I don't know the whole story. That start a fire brigade. Totally separate the fire department. They're a bunch of, you know what? I mean, great guys. The training is not paramedic. It is not emergency. The only time they come out is on the disaster. It's sort of like the certified, a certified group. Well, I don't know how many are left, but we had a certain class here, at least 20 people passed. And the only problem we've had is nobody is called them out. Nobody has kept up the training that they had, including myself, I went through it. Ken Laman, who was one of our guys up here, is with Sheriff's Industry Station. Tata Great Class up here. I like Ed's idea. He knows somebody. We need to have that. From the experience of the Mount and the Palisades fire, most of us saw the cars that got bowloads around. We are going to have at least that problem here if we had a major fire or major evacuation for whatever I'll see in to trying to get past Kolemus going to be a disaster We're only going to be able to get a sheriff up here and a crew that's halfway organized Hour two hours after the happening. They're gonna be busy our guys. They're gonna be busy We aren't gonna be able to count on them. We're to have the same problem trying to get out on with your bulward. If we have a problem, we're stuck in the heights. Because we're not going to be able to get out, same with harbor and foot and road. Nobody's thinking about it because it hasn't happened. But if we have a major problem, we're going to be in deep mud. Good question to you, wire on that. How many certified individuals are on the Firewatch Group? Do you know? Are most of those folks are in the Firewatch? There are some. I don't know. So maybe as a takeaway and something the Firewatch Group can organize is a quarterly meeting of the certified individuals and maybe additional folks that want to get certified. I think that would be a great project for the Firewatch programs. We need somebody like you. You've done a hell of a good job to instigate some of this. Those of us that are in there, we're busy doing the fire watch thing. We don't think about cert, okay. We should. And combining everybody I've heard today several things. Let's combine emergency preparedness, the cert program, and whatever you wanna call the brigade, whatever it might be. It should be something like CERT. The only time that people would be called out would be at a disaster. We don't need them for the fire guys. They have their training. They do a great job. No question. I think they're a little short-handed, but that's the way it is. We need to have people when they're busy, the sheriffs are busy, that we can call on. I did it as a volunteer for 35 years. Two at lock and the morning tones go off, we all went. When we were sitting here in the summer at Donna's house, we had five jeeps in the heights and two little pumpers. We'd have three or four guys that were here that we knew about. The tones went off. We had 50 people. We had a roster. I was told somewhere near a hundred guys that were trained that could do fire department work. They weren't professionals, they were volunteers. And that's why we never had a problem up here. I've been here since 54. We've never had a big brush fire. And we're just lucky. So we need to combine and instigate some of this and we need people that can instigate it. Okay. I will offer myself to attend a next fire watch program and see what we Concordinate together so if you can let me know the next time maybe through mr. Dominguez or yourself directly And I will make sure that I attend a meeting and see what we can do to kind of Make this a team effort and coordinate Make sure you know the things that you're talking about that we can get. I tried to get Richard to come here tonight, but he's down in Palm Springs T-Shin at last. Yeah, that's yours. I'm gonna promote him to come in next meeting. That would be awesome. He has a lot of these good ways of getting these things. We as a city, the politicians, the referee, and the whole bunch that are great, have not followed up on this cert program, for instance. They haven't taken advantage of Firewatch. We only need to train you. And until we have a problem, we're going to just live with it. So, good luck. I agree with you. Thank you. And I'll reach out to you and we'll try to coordinate that date. Thank you. If I can add on as far as fireworks, the next, don't have the date for the next meeting. I know we're going to have a meeting before the 4th of July and that is going to be the subject matter really is to coordinate with the fire department and the sheriffs that will hopefully be helping us out on the 4th of July because we're the fire watch. of us members of our watch are going to get together and and Corny hopefully be helping us out on the 4th of July because we're the fire watch. Some of us members of our watch are going to get together and coordinate with whoever the authorities will be that day and see how we can help with the monitor the community and we'll do whatever we're told to do. And I know the basic thing for the fire watch folks is going to be to a server and report just watch and report, that's it. And we understand that. But we're basically the mayor, John Pispisa, is the Appet Git. He's also a Fire Watch member, is the Appet Git who's trying to get everything coordinated as far as with the sheriff's and the fire department for the 4th of July situation. So hopefully that will be the main subject matter of the next far watch meeting coming up hopefully in a couple of weeks hopefully. I'm an instigator. Any other questions, comments? I do have a comment. I was going to ask Al, do do you know whether a cert training does any drills or kind of keeping people fresh like you've been certified in every year? There's some kind of annual update. They don't. And so what I've been doing is talking to other cities. The city of La Marada is an example. It has been coordinating with a couple other cities locally to do some of the stuff they just did one recently. I think it might have been March where we did a mock disaster at one of the community parks there and it pretty much went through the whole exercise that you would go through of recovery, fire extinguisher, and some other conversations with jointly with the fire department, in that specific community to kind of help them as well with their trying to accomplish. So,. So, you know, I guess to answer your question, we're trying to work with some other cities that have similar events that they've been scheduling. I believe Lomerados trying to schedule another event, but that won't be until, I think, September, October of this year. Okay. Well, I think the idea to pull together the fire watch and then search for regular quarterly meetings is great and you can have even tabletop type of drills. They don't all have to be physical but it's just everybody know what the roles are and who to call and what actions we're going to take and you know how we support fire, how we stay clear and give them space, how we do these things just so everybody knows You know who gets cool like I can say something so are you familiar with the great shake out? I'm not okay, so The great shake out is held in October and it's probably one asserts biggest events they Come on scene and they assist the Fire Department of Law Enforcement and we have a mock drill for the event of what we know will be coming and that's an earthquake. So it's a pretty big event. I would say probably no less than anywhere between 25 to 5,000 people are involved. And it's usually held at Dodger Stadium. But I'm sure that, you know, we could, I suggested this last year, last time, we should have drills. We should see how we could be prepared, how to meet, what to talk about, what are we going to do? Who are the people involved? Who are the people that we have to help? Is there some people that people are up on pantry? I know for a fact we're going to have to help them. So there are probably other people in the community that we have to reach out. And I've asked John to give me a list of these people. people you remember that John, a list of people that we know in fact will not be able to get out on their own. Then we have consideration for animals, all kinds of stuff. But at least we'll get the ball rolling with something I wouldn't be opposed to participating in a small little shake out of our own. It doesn't have to be just LA City. Every, it's a nationwide event. They sell them not so much. I would say probably more the state of California because we're obviously more affected by earthquakes than probably any other state. But it's something that we do have to prepare and be, you know, be prepared for it and the event that it happens if we get caught with no knowledge of what to do or where to go, then that's going to be problematic. Just as a reminder, we are the City of the Hubrites. Has a fault line that can produce an earthquake the size of about 6.6 and a half I believe is the the number that I heard last so definitely I think that's something but to follow up your question Chief Martin is there a refresher search program that we can kind of utilize to coordinate with our far watch program to get those folks that are search certified to identify them first. Sure, I'll reach out to my contact and then we'll try to coordinate with John and the people of Firewatch. And I think maybe it's great. When it independently rather than relying other cities, that may generate more participation, especially with the large group of our Firewatch folk program. Right, that's why I suggested that. Let's keep it in-house. Let's keep it here. People are more apt to come to a local event and have to travel to La Habra. And then what if they're overwhelmed and not able to accommodate us, we should have our own program. So the two things I'd like to probably further discuss in you folks can kind of think about for our June meeting is the great shakeup. So we can kind of plan ahead. And if we do something, you know, the folks that sign up, we can meet at the park or whatever it is and coordinate a checklist of things that we need to do. And this is just kind of get more people involved and proactively educated rather than if it happens, what do I do now? And you know, that type of so. Now great conversation tonight. If we have no further questions or comments, yes. Hopefully for those folks who are watching in New York City that list that you were asking me about, that's been going on, but it's sore like in the background of things. rafferty Walbridge the city manager does take names and has a list of folks who need that and whenever I run into neighbors residents who in that situation I refer them to call city hall and speak to Mr. Walbridge or somebody that can take down their names and information for that specific purpose. I... and speak to Mr. Walbridge or somebody that can take down their names and information for that specific purpose. So that's basically how I'm approaching that. Is there any time anybody needs that? You've got to call City Hall and provide you private information directly to the City Manager. The other thing I wanted to talk about was, just you know, you were asking about the search where, how do you get notified? Basically, you can go on the search website and sign up at whatever cities and get emails from them. That's been an easy part for me to do. The problem has been that usually they don't notify me until about a week before sometimes the event. And by then it's like I'm scheduled for something else or I've got some situation that I just can't get out of so but yeah they're out again for the general public, the residents who may be watching yes you need to do is go to a certain website find your nearby communities I've been the passive travel to even see me not see me San Fernando, a city of San Fernando in that area, to a certain class. It's their available all over the place. And what else? The drills, when we were talking about the drills, we reminded me of what I used to do at the I need to. And basically about once a month, we would evacuate a building. Either the guards would get to get an evacuate the building or staff would get together and evacuate their offices. A lot of times they hated that but it was, I had a capture audience, they were basically, we were, you know, we're told this is what we're going to do and I was the one in charge of coordinating it and basically whoever was on shift that day got to participate. but once a year we would have a campus wide exercise and that was a bit more involved. But basically it gets back to you, you get to do it on a routine basis. If you do it every year, every two or three years, we forget. So yeah, we have to practice as much as possible on a residential wide level. not just us, few handful of people who may be interested with everybody, in whatever way they can get involved, needs to get involved. Because for example, with a shirt training, it's not about being the brain surgeon or whatever it's you're going to do whatever you can at your level of physical ability and mental abilities and that's how you're gonna help and that's why we're basically Even when I was doing my little exercises at the Huntington we Everybody did what they could at their level. We had some guards who like their sevenies and So they were not very mobile so but they did what they could so the younger ones would do be the ones who would do the extra. But we do what we can. I think that's why we all need to do. Thank you. Thank you for that. And I think what the sir, make sure we coordinate with Mr. Viegomis and so we don't do separate things and we want to kind of coordinate and maybe communicate through Mr. Viegomis as the lead since he is, you know, to charge that. You had another question. Sorry, yeah, no, I was just going to clarify. I meant notified in an emergency because you can be certain trained. But if there is an emergency, you're likely taking care of your home and yourself. And I know I mentioned before that I worked. Many emergencies as part of the FEMA train group. We had tabletop drills. We had physical drills for the electric utility. And it's interesting when you think you know because you've been trained, but how different things are actually, even if it's a tabletop drill, of course, in a physical drill, all of that falls apart. I mean, COVID, we had pandemic handbooks of what we would do if there was a pandemic. I don't think any of that was actually utilized when the pandemic, and we never did a tabletop or an actual drill. I mean, you know, so that's what I'm saying. I mean, even if you're certain trained, do you know what, you know, how exactly will you be notified in what order, what if phone lines are down, where do you check, you know, just all of this. But we don't have to hash it out here, what I mean is that's where the drills are important. If you're having quarterly meetings, people can discuss that. can start mobilizing folks. Getting people refreshed, right? Because I think that was a sad to hear that there are so many people who are trained, but they have been no refresher, no contact, no kind of keeping people just up and running. And I know, at least with the utilities, they have lists of people who are in medical baseline who need, you know, live support or electricity for oxygen or other things. I't think they make those available but they must be people there must be a way for people to self-report and we should have those lists also but anyway yeah I think the the drills and the quarterly meetings are going to sus all of the needs out and I think it's a great idea yes as we discussed in prior meeting we can do a lot of paperwork and talk about things, but if there's no action, we're not ready. So let's start putting our thoughts and our plans into action and have these set of drills or whatever is, and let's get this start moving forward. That's going to be the part of the EPC as we go forward. So thank you for that. Any other comments? None? Okay. So we'll call the meeting to close at 6.51 p.m. Thank you all and for a very productive meeting today. Have a great day.