This conference will now be recorded. Awesome. So we can call the meeting to order. Welcome to the April meeting, guys. And thank you for the flowery napkins. All right. So first item on the agenda. For us is to approve the regular monthly meeting minutes. Anybody? I move to approve the minutes of the Board of Managers. Regular monthly meeting held on March 10th, 2025, as drafted. Second. All in favor? All right. Okay, so the minutes are approved. The next is a consent agenda. Well, unless anyone has any objections, we just move right through this. I can just say, speak briefly to the fact that this is a request for the removal of a magnolia tree measuring 11 inches in diameter at 5407 center street. This is a property that has already received a permit for demolition. The applicants are seeking to rebuild with a new house. The new, excuse me, the tree is within the footprint of the over dig for the house. We can go to the next slide. Thank you. You'll see a photo that'll come up here in a minute of the magnolia tree itself. The tree ordinance board has contacted all of the neighbors and there was no objection, including from the resident at 5409 Centur street where the tree sits partially on the share property line. They have written in support and the tree ordinance boards proposed consent agreement would be for a two for one Reforestation requirement with two hardwood deciduous canopy trees. So that would certainly be a Met plus for this property to have two hardwood deciduous trees in place of the one So yes as this Leonard So yes, as Ms. Leonard was stating, unless there is any objection, this will be deemed approved in no formal action as required by the board. Any hearing no objection? So we'll move on to the special permit. So the next case is a request to install one electric vehicle charging station within the Primrose Street Public right away in front of one Primrose Street. The unit would be located eight feet inside of the public sidewalk. This is actually the first special permit case that is being presented to the board since your adoption of the ordinance that permits electric vehicle charging stations in areas that would historically have been prohibited for structures either in setbacks or in the public right of way, etc. You carved out a specific provision within the public rights of way ordinance that allows for these electric charging stations provided they come before you for approval of a special permit. In all other aspects, this proposed electric vehicle charging station does comply with the code requirements for the size of the unit. It is also eight feet from the public sidewalk and is adequately screened through existing landscaping as well as additional box wood that have been proposed by the applicant. For your reference, we have thus far since that ordinance that also allowed these units on private property, we have issued a total of six permits for electric vehicle charging stations on private property. And so this is a continuing improvement we are seeing here in the village, but this would be the first to be approved within the public right of way, but certainly in line with the approved ordinance. And if you go back to the previous picture, you'll see that it's behind those pushes. They're driveway. No one will even see it. That's perfect. Okay. Does anyone have any questions or comments about this or emotion? It seems to me that if we're going to ever approve many of these, we should have put this one. So I moved to approve a special perimeter question case, a 8622 on the basis that the evidence presented including the staff recording case analysis demonstration that the applicable requirements for the approval of the special permit have been met. Staff has directed the draft decision based on this evidence including findings of fact and conclusions approving the special permit. Thank you. All in favor. Hi. Hi. Anyone opposed? No. Okay, great. So we can move on to the next thing, which is the Treasurer's report. Two small things to add to the written Treasurer's report. As I in our last meeting, I mentioned the possibility that we might want to move our treasury funds from the US to Wells Fargo because of them because what we've been primarily working with and who really understands municipalities and our needs was making that move. That's no longer an option. Wells Fargo, at least our local both our goals and decided they do not want to mess with municipalities. So we believe it is and it's become pretty much routine. I don't really need much advice from the people that we be sitting in the work just pretty much every time. We tend to keep these at 18 to two years, so it's of absurdity, so we're not betting on interest rates when it was another particular one. We do tend to keep these at 18 most two years sorts of securities, so we're not betting on interest rates when we're with another particular And so every time one of the tours we pretty much The second thing is that My nemesis the The certificate of deposit CD is almost vanquished. Our second to the last one I believe is up in early May. It's establishing a new record for how far they've got to drive to do with it. It's up by both of them. Very old. I think after only one left. That's magic. Thank you for your report. And for your minds. Thank you for mealing the jacket clothes out. Next, we have time for a public hearing on our budget. And we're open for public comment. So anybody here to talk about the budget didn't think so. So I think we can move on to the matters for board discussion. And I think you're going to head that up. Yes, no, that sounds good. And I won't give too long of an introduction before turning it over to Michelle Rosenfeld, our outside council on the issue of land use matters. But kind of the top line is that we're in pretty good shape across the three different issues House Bill 503 and Annapolis, also the governor's housing and jobs bill. After a lot of amendments, it actually failed to pass the House and for crossover in the Senate. And for this legislative session did not advance. And so we continue to monitor the situation there because plenty of bills that don't advance on the first go around. Re-appear in subsequent sessions. There's comfort in the fact that as the bill was amended and it was largely rewritten in the amendment, it was much more of a reporting and tracking of housing and jobs than the original bill, which was much more disruptive to county and municipal planning processes. So no news there and wait for next year. On the technical amendment also in an atlas that just clarifies the role of municipalities in permitting and regulating construction. Good news there is that that bill passed both the House and Senate. I know it had a confirmation that the governor had signed it. Correct. I have not seen it. So we're staying tuned there and that of course is a bill that we've championed. Been very supportive of have relied on our state delegation to help us with. And very good news on that front. I'm stealing Michelle's thunder on that. And lastly, is the more housing now at the county level? And this is the question of the degree of development allowed on corridors. That is advancing through the county council. There are unlikely to be additional hearings, but there are probably going to be work sessions before the county council. Probably the summary there is that its current status is imperfect. It's not everything the village would like to see or that our testimony advocated. There's still the possibility that along corridors there will be the opportunity to chain lots together, either multiple lots that face the corridor or possibly a lot facing the corridor being combined with a lot interior behind that lot and the interior of the neighborhood. So that's not everything we'd like to see. We'd like to see a little bit more restriction on that. And secondly, historic preservation, carve outs are not everything we'd like to see. It's possible that even contributing or outstanding resources could be redeveloped in favor of the more housing now proposal, but we'll see. And ultimately, there's 10 properties in the village that are subject to more housing now. So it's very relatively as far as the whole village is concerned. It's a relatively small impact. And of course, sake of those residents we're eager to continue to monitor and represent them as this process goes forward. With that Michelle I've stolen some of your thunder but I probably left you some complexity if the board in particular has questions. Michelle what would you what would you like to run with there. Sure. I just on the on the jobs housing bill it was easy to miss on it actually did cross over to the Senate but it got out of the rules committee on Thursday went to one of the Senate committees on Friday who then held a special session on Saturday and shockingly didn't get out of that committee back to the house through the necessary number of subsequent readings. So it did it did die. I do think we can expect that there will be other attempts next year to get something a little closer to what they were trying to achieve this year, but for purposes of this year was just a tremendous win from our perspective. There also is a state bill that passed that I just want to bring to your attention. It was a, we had no, very early, relates to accessory dwelling units and it had very, very expansive controls limiting municipal authority on how you could regulate or more importantly not regulate accessory dwelling units. I did have significantly scaled back for me and I am coordinated with Sue Ellen Ferguson and we're going to just to make sure that we all agree on how that applies. Talies a bit unclear, but I just wanted to put that the committee has been done. I'm not sure if you can see that the committee has been done. I'm not sure if you can see that the committee has been done. I'm not sure if you can represented in the lead up to the committee work session. One of them, of course, being that we'd been told that historically designated properties would not be eligible. It turns out they can be. We were told that chaining, both side by side and to the rear, was not allowed. It couldn't happen under current subdivision regulations, which both the planning director for the planning board and I had disagreed with that analysis. And at the end of the day, so did the county council's zoning attorney. So those are the three most significant changes. We did submit testimony, we did submit very specific proposed amendments to the legislation and I expect that they will those proposed amendments will get taken up in future work sessions before the committee. So overall I think in terms of the close-out of the General Assembly session I think we've heard very well and then we're still in the thick of it with respect to ZTA-2502. And I'm happy to answer questions if there are other topics or issues that you might be concerned about. I would just add two additional things. The bill that Michelle referenced regarding ADUs, if anyone wants to look them up, their House bill 1466, and the Cross Filed bill is Senate bill 891. And as Michelle noted, she is in conversations with our general counsel as well as with Ron Bolt. That was the name that you didn't hear there. He represents several other Chevy Chase area municipalities and was kind of our lead on the technical amendment that was successful. I did confirm it has not yet been signed by the governor, but certainly is in route to his desk. I also just wanted to note that in several conversations, Andrew Fried's and our district one represented, has acknowledged receipt of the joint testimony that the village submitted along with our neighboring municipalities. And he has noted that the council's legal staff has been directed to review that letter and see how aspects of it can be addressed. And much of, as was noted by Mr. Morseberger, much of what was addressed in that letter had to do with things like the historic district, the combining of properties and other detailed elements of the ZTA. So we are hopeful that we can continue to have conversations with Andrew Friedson as well as other members of the council to really address what he even tried to be in a meeting today as being very reasonable and thoughtful requests related to the ZTA. Thank you. So everyone has anything that you want to have? Well, thank you to all of you, Lu Michelle, Shayna, Suwelyn, for being on top of this. We had good results. Yes. So, absolutely. Thanks for summarizing it all and to be continued. Okay. Should we move on to the next thing, which is the roadway base rehabilitation. We're gonna learn more about roadway base rehabilitation. Then we're gonna give you more of an education here on how roadways are built and you could have ever imagined. Unfortunately, as it relates to Primrose Street, how they should have been built and have not been built over the years. As you know, the board approved earlier this year for us to begin the Primrose Street stormwater remediation and roadway rehabilitation project. And essentially this was all started due to the need to install a trench drain along the westernmost portion of the north side of Primrose Street to address a long standing condition of groundwater that was coming up and flowing down the curve in a constant manner all year long even in drought conditions. As we looked at the roadway and saw its condition as well as the gutter panel on the entire length of the street, we recommended to the board that you approved replacing all of the curbs along Primrose Street and replacing the roadway. That project began on March 31st. Unfortunately, on April 1st, our contractor called us out after identifying that the base underneath the 2-inch of asphalt that was mill was not in a good condition and it was in such a substandard condition that it required us coming out and determining how to move forward before moving on to the next phase of the project. The village's project engineer Robin Barnhart who was with CPJ and associates consulting engineering firm, worked with our contractor to do a more detailed assessment of the roadway on April 2nd to really nail down just how much of the roadway was in this poor condition. Based upon those findings, they have come back to us and made a recommendation for two options, which Robin will detail. She's joining us virtually this evening. So we have some slides that we're going to go through, and Robin will walk you through what the issues are, and what the two options are that we're presenting to you today. One of the things I want to just note for the board is that you're you're be asked to make two decisions this evening related to this matter, which option to proceed forward with and therefore to direct authorization to me to issue a change order for an amendment to the contract depending upon the option you choose. The second thing that you will be asked to do is to amend the line item in the budget for this project to allocate the funds that are needed specific to whichever option you choose. There was not as you know an actual budget ordinance in your packets because there's some blinks that need to be filled in as far as what option and the amounts that need to be put in. So we'll need to do that somewhat when we fly as we come to the end of this conversation. But I will go ahead and- Is all this FY26? This is all FY 2025, my name's Yes. Our goal would be to resume this project hopefully either later this this month or early May, in hopes of getting it completed either option before the end of the current fiscal year. One of the things I just wanted to point out, I already did this show until from his Leonard and Mr. Morseberger, these two stones that I have here are what was found in the base just two inches below the asphalt. In case you're wondering, though, this is not normal. You should not find large stones like this, only two inches under the surface of the roadway. This was indicative of the fact that we did not have a stable, structural base under that roadway, which helps to explain why it was in the deteriorating state that it was in. So that base is just usually just concrete, right? Correct. And Robin has very good slides that she'll show in a minute that really do show that very clearly of what the various layers should be under the asphalt. And so there is a rock base, not at two inches below the surface, and usually it's not large chunks like this. It's a much smaller crap type of gravel. But she'll show going to more explanation about that in her presentation. Okay. So who was the contract? I'm sorry, Miss Morgan. He oughta're all over here. Who was the contractor who was hired to do this? So in the past are the current contractor? Well, not the current one. The one who didn't do the good job. So as many of the villages streets have been, they have been repaved and redone over many, many decades. This utility work. Yes, there's also utility work that takes place until the utility companies, subcontractors come in after they've done work and they can replace sections. So it really is kind of an amalgamation, if you will, of various different parties that have been in there. And some of the condition that we've seen of that subbase is very indicative of the fact that there have been various different parties that have been in there. And some of the condition that we've seen of that sub-base is very indicative of the fact that there have been various different parties dealing with the roadway over the years in various different states. Well, we do not have a technical roadway crew to catch these kinds of things. And that's why this has been a unique project because we do have an actual project engineer who is the point person and is the one Robin Barnhardt, who is the one who identified that note this needs to be adequately dealt with and similarly brought it to our attention. So we're in good stead under this project, but it is indicative of not careful oversight of prior roadway projects along this block. So let me turn it over to Robin because I think she will fill in a lot of the blanks. Robin will turn it over to you. Thank you, Dana. Oh, thank you. We're going to give you an update of where we're at. So next slide, please. So first I wanted to start with where we started before the work and what you see out there right now. When we went out and started this project on behalf of the village, we originally tasked with looking at the drainage issue that Chena referenced between houses one and 15 on Primrose. As part of that, we had looked at the roadway in front of those houses and had noted the deterioration of the roadway and we had actually mapped or located those issues of distress in front of those. And then as the project went on, was going out to bid, that's when we talked to Shayna about, well, you're almost halfway of this block of street. And as part of the other issues that we knew that were down on the other end of the street, should this project also repair the road way the whole way since you're already out there. And so we didn't have those areas detailed as far as dimensions for pavement distress. So we did make some assumptions for the big quantities in there. But what I wanted to show is here is what we saw out there is the bulk of the distress that you saw in the roadway before we did the milling was along the center of the roadway, which is understandable as that's where most of the vehicular traffic runs since there are cars parked on both sides of the street. We saw the utility trench or evidence of that, which you can see in the top photo, you can see the lines running the length of the roadway and it's about a two foot wide strip there. And that was indicative of a utility trench. And so we recognize that. There was also distress that we refer to as alligator cracking. You can see a little bit in the top photo and more of a bigger, larger patch in the bottom photo. And this is a symptom of having an unstable base. And so we knew that there were areas where the base of the road was having some instability and that we would have to do a full depth repair at those. So as I mentioned, we, between 1 and 15 primers, we had to take in some rough measurements of those areas and identified the approximate limits that we would need to do based on what we saw on the surface. Also shown on this photo or this slide in the left hand corner is, I wanted to talk about the different layers of a traditional asphalt roadway. It's essentially three layers on top of the existing soil. So the bottom most layer is your subgrade, that's the existing soil out there. We then put a stone sub-based down, typically six inches thick. Then we come in with an asphalt base course and then an asphalt surface course. The surface course is what your tires run on. As the pavement ages and starts to deteriorate, one of the maintenance activities that can be done is to mill that surface course off and then do an overlay on top of it to extend the life of the road before you have to rebuild the whole road. So this is a traditional asphalt road pavement section. There was a question before we got started into the presentation about having a concrete base. You can have roadways that are originally constructed with concrete pavement and then when that concrete breaks down sometimes they do come in with an asphalt overlay on top of that concrete to extend the life of the roadway as well. At the time when we did the design without having with no records for the roadway we assumed that it was a typical asphalt roadway pavement section with some potential of some concrete base at the utility patching. Sometimes that is common that they were patched those with concrete as the base course instead of asphalt and then they just do an asphalt surface force on that. So this is the pavement section we were expecting and we'll talk about what we actually found. So next slide. So we went out there first and DNF, the contractor, milled off that surface course, which is about two inches. And what we found was really a patchwork quilt of base course. In the photo on the upper left you'll see starting from the left the base course in this is multiple different scenarios. From the left hand curve we have a strip of concrete base, then we have a strip of asphalt, then we have a concrete utility trench, then in the middle we have an separate piece of concrete followed by asphalt on the right going to the curve. You can also see in this photo, at the concrete utility trench, there are cracks going left to right in this photo which is what we would call transverse cracks. It's not in the direction of the travel, but transverse to that. And that's a utility trench where the concrete itself was cracking into several different pieces. And you could have seen those cracks in the previous slide slides photos. The photo in the bottom left-hand corner is down closer to a brick fill. Here we had concrete on the left-hand side. In the center was the stone and that was the example of the stone that Shayna shared or let you all see. then asked for it on the right hand side. Elsewhere we also found patches of aggregate. You can see two photos on the right hand side. Elsewhere along the road it was just very patchy. While the aggregate was seemed firm, it had a lot of material in there. As Shayna mentioned, the aggregate was much larger than you typically see in a road stone base and Also as Shana mentioned it was basically right below that surface course. So we did not have a full section of pavement there But as we were out there looking at this in the patching with the equipment running over we were seeing some areas where the subbase was moving, which we did expect in the areas that we had witnessed the alligator cracking beforehand, but with the finding this patchwork of sub base, our base course material and some other movement elsewhere, we felt that it was important that we really check the whole roadway to make we have a sound base here. So if we go to the next slide, what we see is that we have a sound base here. So if we go to the next slide, what we did was we came out the next day. The contractor brought one of their dump trucks loaded with stone and we ran, drove that truck down both sides of the roadway and as it went, watched the sub the road base under the wheels as the load came onto a piece of base and then off of it to see if we could visually see movement. And what we found, some of it wasn't surprising where we saw that concrete utility trench patch that was broken into pieces, those pieces moved independently. So as the truck drove over them, they would depress or go into the ground a little bit further and as the truck weight came off, you know, they lift back up. Along the center of the roadway, we also saw similar movement, but there was in larger patches than what we had anticipated based on the alligator cracking that we witnessed on the surface. What this means is that alligator cracking was still in the process. It would have kept spreading as that roadway base moved. But then also what we found is that along the south side of the road, much of it near the curb also noticeably compressed under loading. And so even though this area is where cars parked and didn't see heavy traffic loads from the traffic going through the street, it would have continued to deteriorate and you would see more and more cracking along the sides as well. So as part of while we were out there, after seeing the areas that needed repairs, we CPJ and DNF worked together to identify, okay, well what's the actual limits that we need to do? And these took into also constructability considerations. So if we found isolated patches that were really close together, we linked them together because the space in between, even though we didn't see movement, by the time we repaired the areas on either side that was having problems, that area in the center would then most likely be damaged and then needing replacement as well. The other constructability type concerns we looked at is because the existing base course was a patchwork of different types of material. If a portion of the asphalt, let's say, was, we were seeing movement in it, but then there was a portion that we were not seeing movement in if we only replaced the area that Was moving if the result of was only going to be a narrow strip of the asphalt remaining before it met up Let's say with a Concrete pat or concrete base that was not moving we decided that it's better to take it all the way to the concrete instead of leading a small strip of assault to remain because more than likely that would start failing because of all the different patchwork. So we instead of leaving as a patch where we would try to make it a little bit more cohesive. So taking into those constructability considerations we mapped out the limits that we felt would be the bare bones minimum that would have to get replaced in order to get a good quality road base before we put the overlay back on. We go to the next slide. The next two slides we're going to show you what those limits are. So this plan view starting on the left is Connecticut Avenue. So everywhere on this sheet that you see a red with a diagonal hatch, that's an area that needs full depth patch or full depth repair. And then the left hand side of this plan view is just east of the driveway for 15 primrose. So it's roughly half the length of this roadblock. But you can see a majority of this area is shaded in red that would need to come out. And these are a mixture of either failing concrete patches that need to be replaced or the asphalt the asphalt base that needs to be corrected as well. We go to the next slide, we will see the continuation of this down to Brookville Road. And here you can see this is where you see the entire, almost the entire south side of the street had soft movement or had soft soils or a base that was moving under the weight of the trucks. And there's a lot of fine cracking that we were seeing in the base course as well, which would only over time come to the surface more so. So from these two, you can see the majority of the road has a full depth repair that's needed. So the two options that we're going to start talking about, the first option is going to be, if we only did this minimum amount that we need to get the full depth, and then our second option I'll talk about in a second is if we just went ahead and said let's just rebuild the road completely. So we have a good solid base to go forward. So what we're calling option A is the full depth repairs of the areas that we shaded on the previous two slides. This would include stone sub base replacement where necessary because portions of the base course would of the existing base course would remain out in the areas that were not hatched and read. What that would end up is the, there would be essentially a joint between the existing sub base that's going to remain in the new full depth repair that we did. That joint, when we put the overlay on top of it over time, especially if the existing base that base course that's remaining is concrete, which is a very rigid structure and doesn't move very much, there would be difference of movement when the vehicles went across the tube between an asphalt base course versus a concrete base course, and you would see that joint ultimately reflect up through that surface course to have a crack on the surface. So in this situation for this type of repair, what would be recommended is to put down, after we rebuild, do the base course repair, before we put on the surface overlay, we would install paving fabric down there on down the street. This paving fabric is a geotextile. We would align it so that the laps across those joints where the existing base course and the new fold-up repair about each other. What this will do is is it's gonna help delay that reflective crack formation. It will not prevent it, but it will just delay it and take a little bit longer to form. It does that because it's creating as a stress relieving membrane between the base course and the overlay. When those cracks eventually do form that's recommended they be sealed to prevent water and debris intrusion into the joint which can cause more or can degrade the overlay. But even when those cracks do come through, the paving fabric is still there and still providing assistance to the overlay to help extend its useful life of it. The entire roadway would still receive the two-inch overlay of new asphalt surface cores when to all the full depth repairs would be done. So we want to talk about the sequence of how this type of option would be done. actual sequence of construction that would be seen on site if this option was selected. So we would divide the work along the full length of block into two phases, approximately about half of the length of the road at the time. This location would be near the 15 primrose driveway because that's approximately midway of the block as well. So we would do first half of the length of the road. Most likely we would start at the Brookville and Road End. We would come through, we would complete all the curving gutter replacement and any driveway aprons that were agreed upon would also be replaced. Once that concrete reaches cured strength, they can then start completing the full-dubbed repairs. This into the road, we estimate that it would take approximately 16 days to complete all the work once it starts. Once that's completed, we would then go down and do the half of the roadway that joins to a Connecticut Avenue. It'd be the same sequencing of construction there with doing all the curbing gutter, but down here we do have to also install the trend strain still, and then we would do the full depth repairs. Because of the trend strain this end, we're estimating would take about 20 days because it does take a little bit longer to install that trend strain and get it set. Once both ends of the road were complete, then we would come through and do the finished surface course for the entire length of the road. The duration of this would be about one to two days, so we're just saying approximately two days to complete all of that. Next slide. So to understand, I've talked about the overall durations, but the actual impact to residents and their access to their driveways. I want to talk a little bit about that. Individual properties will lose access when the curbing gutter at their driveway and the driveway if it was agreed upon are replaced. That disruption or access restriction would be approximately three days to let that concrete cure and get strength before vehicles drive across it. Those disruptions would be on a rolling basis as the contractor moves down the length of the road. Once all of the concrete is done and reached the current strength, that's when they would come back and do the full depth repairs. When they're doing those full depth repairs, because these repairs go to the middle of the road or sometimes beyond the middle of the road, the residents on both side of the street at the location where they're doing that repair would lose access to their house or their driveway. The duration of that could be up to 10 days. It depends on the size of that full depth patch or full depth repair. Some of them may be smaller and may be able to open back up to traffic sooner, but we're just saying for right now it's to be about 10 days because that's a lot of intricate coordination that need to happen there. Then when it comes time to do the final surface course overlay, again, it would take approximately two days, but the access would only be restricted during daytime hours. So we would have to have all the vehicles off the street from the start of the construction day to the end and be re-opened the traffic in the evening, but during the day we need to be able to pay from curb to curb the length of the roadway to get a good installation of that overlap. During this work, residents would be able to park at the other end of primers, as I mentioned, we're doing the length of the road in two phases. So the end that's not being worked on, residents could park there or on adjacent streets. But at all times we would maintain access for emergency vehicles. So even during the time when we're doing the full depth repairs and it's close to residential vehicles, at the end of the day the contractor would be installing temporary ramps for any open cuts or wherever there's a difference of elevation so that if emergency vehicles needed to come down the streets during the evening, they would be able to do so safely. With this option, there are some considerations to take into account. As I already mentioned, expect the reflective cracks that will need ceiling. This could develop within a few years of the finish of the project. It may not take very long for those to come up, but they can be sealed to keep the water out. The existing roof cross section shape would remain as it is today. In the bottom center of the screen, I have a little graphic that I drew up to kind of roughly give you an idea of what that cross section would look like or what it is out there today. You do have a high point at the center of the road and the water does drain to the curves as it's intended. There's nothing wrong with the drainage of the road. The only reason I point this out is because the way the road is currently shaped, the slope going from the centerline of the road towards the curve is a little bit flatter towards the middle of the road and it gets a little steep as it ties into the curve. It's mostly an issue for maintenance when they come in and do milling overlays that break joint or a difference of slopes is a little bit challenging that they have to work around. But because we'd be leaving some of the existing base course, we would have no way to change that down the roadway. So we would be left with this. The finished pavement where at the place that we do the full depth repair is would be a total of seven inches thick. And this is what I, it doesn't account for any stone subbase. It consists of a 5 inch asphalt base course with the 2 inch asphalt surface course overlay. I did want to mention that in general with proper maintenance, asphalt overlays can last between 10 to 15 years. There's a lot of variables with how long it lasts, including traffic volume on the road, and it also depends on the maintenance that's done on the road. On the right hand side of this slide or right corner is a photo I wanted to show everyone an example of what a crack seal looks like. I'm sure you've all seen them driving down the road, but I just wanted everyone to be on the same page or what that one looked like. All right, on the next slide, we'll talk about option B, which is, if we rebuild the entire road. In this scenario, the entire road base course is completely removed. And we would rebuild the road to me, count of Montgomery County standard for a primary residential road including the stone sub base where it's necessary. We are saying primary residential road because we do know that based off the traffic studies that have been done in the village that this street is does receive higher amount of vehicles going down it compared to some other adjacent streets. So this roadway is a section from the county is intended to handle that sort of volume on it. The sequence of construction to rebuild the road again we are dividing the road into phases, basically halfway. We would still start the Brookfield Road end. We would still begin with all the curving gutter replacement and driveway aprons where greed upon. Once those were set, then that's when they would remove the entire existing road and rebuild it. Then we would flip and do the same side of the Connecticut Avenue, again, including the trend strain. In this case, the Brookville side, we estimate that'll take about approximately 12 days, complete all of that. The Connecticut Avenue, because of the trend strain, we're estimating about 16 days. And again, similar to the other option is once we're done, the final surface where our slayer would then be put down the entire length of the road. Again, approximately two days, it would take to complete that. Next slide. In this instance, the impact of residents access to their driveways still would be about three days when the curb and gutter at the driveway and or the driveway apron is replaced. During the replacement of the full road and rebuilding the road, because the contract does not have to work around all the existing pieces that are remaining, it'll be simpler to do so, to do the repair. So it's estimated that each half of the roadway for the roadway we're building will take about six days each. And during that time, the residents will not have access to their driveways, but we still will remain to maintain access for emergency vehicles of course. And then similar as the other option when we do the final service course overlay, we would need to have the road closed to residential traffic during the daytime to install that overlay and it would be reopened at night. Same thing, residents can park at the other end of primaries or adjacent streets. And as I mentioned, access for emergency vehicles will always be maintained. Considerations for this option is we don't need to have a need for paving fabric because the entire road section is uniform. As I mentioned, we would not not only would be installing as a pavement section to the county standard, but we would also be able to change the road cross sections shape. So on the right hand side, you can see a graphic of what that would look like. It's where you have the high point in the center and you have a consistent slope to the concrete curve and gutter. It just makes it easier for down the road when a mill and overlay is required. It's much easier for the contractor to come in and do that. In this scenario, because we're rebuilding it and we're doing it to the county standard for a primary residential road, the finished asphalt thickness will be eight inches. That includes a five inch base force and a three inch surface force. That three inch surface course will be done in two one and a half inch layers. That's Stant County Standard. We have doing that. When you have a new roadway built with proper maintenance they typically have an average lifespan of 25 years before that surface course starts degrading where you need to come in and do a mill and overlay on that. So obviously a much more longer duration before significant repairs would be needed. And then finally, the next slide we're going to talk about the cost of this. So in the current contract, there are line items for removal and disposal of the existing asphalt-based course. We have line item for replacing the asphalt-based course and replacing the stone sub-base. These line items total to $92,900. And then there's also a separate line item for maintenance of traffic of $15,000. That's what's currently in the contract. Option A with the full depth repairs, we are gonna see additional quantities of the removal of the and disposal as well as the asphalt base and stone base, stone sub-base replacement, beyond the quantities that are in the current contract. We have the addition of the paving fabric. There will also be because of the larger areas, there will be need to be additional geotechnical testing as the materials go in. We also need additional maintenance of traffic as well. So DNF has put together the cost estimates for these. So for this option, above the current contract, we would need authorization for additional $107,000. Option B to rebuild the road. Again, obviously we're gonna have significant quantity adjustment from what we had in the contract of additional removal and disposal, base course replacement and stone sub base replacement, again the additional geotechnical testing and MOT and because of the increased area, this we need authorization for additional cost of 200,000 dollars. I just wanted to note that when we go and remove the stones or the asphalt or concrete base course that's out there currently We We know some areas don't really have a stone subbase or the stone could be potentially from the surface down. But if we run into a stone subbase that cannot be compacted it's still moving too much and it has to be removed to replace. If this existing soil subgrade below that is weak or soft and we can't get the proper compaction on it. The way that's dealt with is we remove that bad material and we put an additional stone sub base to stabilize it. There's no way to know the quantities of that at this time, so we can't estimate that. So I wanted you to be aware that that's not included in the cost that I've put it above for that. So that's the end of the slides. And I guess Shayna, you want to add anything if we want to open it for questions. Yeah, so I think one thing I just wanted to add is that those numbers, the 10 clarify with you, is that those numbers, the 107,000 for option A and the 200,000 for option B, do not include any contingencies for either the soil sub base or just for general other things, correct? That's correct. So the ultimate number that the board should consider when deciding which of these options should also include a contingency. Is there a percentage amount that you think would be appropriate from your experience? It's hard to say because you really just don't know how much the road is going to be. Generally on a normal project from the outset, we would say 10 to 15% of the total cost of the project. And I don't remember if we included any contingency in the main contract or when that was approved or not. So somewhere in that neighborhood I would say would be a good target starting place. I can look it up, but I think there was a 15% contingency in the base contract, but I think we'll open it up to the board. Ultimately, I think you have some discretion there of the contingency amount that you all would feel comfortable with and it would basically be to establish a contingency amount. If we reach that, it would just trigger us coming back to you in additional funds or needed either a subsequent board meeting or to call an emergency meeting if needed. Understanding that I would hope to have some discretion afforded to me because we don't certainly want to hold up this project if we think that we need to go over whatever contingency you all established this evening. So, understanding that we want to work within the legal confines of what we can do, but I just want to make sure that I have the board's consent that even if we do that contingency, and I need to give the contractor direction to keep moving forward, that I have that green light from you all, understanding that we'll come back to get the contract and budget amendments that are needed to defer all of that up. Is there anything we also have DNF, our contractor, also joining us virtually if the board has any specific questions for them, but I think now would be the appropriate time to open it up to you all to see if you have any questions or comments and we do also have some residents that are joining us virtually. So I had thought when we spoke that the rebuilding of the road not only would be more expensive, it would be much more time consuming. And what I'm seeing here is thought when we spoke that the rebuilding of the road not only would be more expensive, it would be much more time consuming. And what I'm seeing here is that it's less time. It's less time. It's less time and we get a road that last longer. So, so do my body. I've seen it easier. Can we afford it? Try it sure. This is one road in a whole series of roads down at Western Avenue. What you see as a first of 10 roads that need to be rebuilt, do we need to look at it from that perspective? Or why is this one special besides from the fact that we happen to be digging it up? This one was special because of the The trench drain. Yeah, we're already there. So we have to do something. We're already there What I guess what I'm suggesting is I wouldn't pour a lot of money into one road if I can avoid it with it with a schedule It's not for a Because it just doesn't seem sensible to me to do it that way. And you do raise a good point. Why this roadway is distinctive is we have done a visual inspection of the other roadways, and we don't see this level of visual degradation that we see in this block of primordial street. This is really why it is an outlier, and it's why the original project, which was solely just the trend strain, was expanded to do a full replacement of the curves in roadway because we had identified that it had degraded at a faster rate than the streets surrounding it. So simply from, based on a visual inspection of the other surrounding streets, we're not seeing a degrading along the surface as we do in this block. So I think that is really the reason why it stands out in the Lawrence this. Now that's not to say that if we go to, excuse me, mill another roadway along the east side of the village that it may not also be showingard base, but at least as it relates to what we're seeing on the surface, which is clearly a good indication of what's happening beneath. This is an outlier. And this is also one of the longest roads and receives some of the highest and the highest traffic. Aside from Bradley Lane, which certainly sees the peak, but when the east side of the village, it is essentially from our calculations, Bradley, Primrose and the Newlands. Although I don't think it's provable, it seems unlikely to me that it's not partly to do with the unusual flooding and continual damage from water, which we still don't really know exactly why it's happening, but we do know that it does happen. And that's what caused us to be working on this road in the first place. Robin, do you want to speak to that point because that was something that we discussed? Yeah. We didn't see from the mild roadway or even before we did not see groundwater coming up through the base. I mean I've been on streets and other neighborhoods where they're you know on these hillsides and I've seen cracks in pavement and they're just dampy around and you know that's groundwater coming up through the pavement. I didn't see that at Primrose however with the constant base flow there of the water that we're going to collect in the trench drain, currently it's running down the kerbing gutter and along the asphalt there and the edge of the the asphalt before we spilled it had seen pitch on a lot of degradation along there and cracks and that would also those cracks would allow water to get into your stone subbase and weaken the subbase. So there is a potential that some of the groundwater could be certainly contributing to having areas of the subbase not being as compact and allowing for all this additional movement. But right now we haven't seen any, necessarily water coming up through the roadway at least, but it could be a contributing factor, yes. I had a question. Is it the case that the full, with the full replacement of the road are we more likely to find some some layer of problems because we're just going to expose more of the sub layer. Certainly if the where the if you were looking at the full depth repair is the area where we were leaving the sub base that could be on top of an area that has a weak sub soil that we won't know because we're not disturbing it. So certainly you could find stuff under there. I would say is at some point, you know, as that sub base, if it was, as it breaks down or if there is that pocket, then it could eventually become undermined enough that it could crack and you can see the cracking happen at that point. So if it is there, you'll deal with it at one time or another, either now or down the road. But it just depends on the timing on that. But obviously, I have no way of predicting that at this point. My feeling to me that you're good. Had we not done this, it would be one conversation. But now we've ripped up to a room. I have to do something. I have to do something. And why wouldn't we do this something that gives us the greatest chance of not having to do it again in 10 years? I agree with that. This is enormously disruptive to the people on this street. No one else is going to say, hey, please come do this to my street. I want to have no access to my driveway. Or I can't unload groceries. I mean, this is not something that everybody's going to be clamoring for. But we've now exposed a street that needs to be repaired. So just to confirm, in terms of a resident of Primrose Street, the number of days that they'll be denied access to their driveway option A and B, are they the same at this point? Robin, you want to confirm that A is wrong? They are not. They are not. Yes. In terms of denial of access to the driveways, I mean, there's the total project duration, but then in terms of if you're a resident suffering the longest possible denial of access, what is that option A versus option B? So yeah, so option A and option B. So when we're doing the curb and gutter, it's equivalent disruption. It's going to be about the three days while we're doing the concrete curb and gutter replacement in front of their driveway and or their driveway apron. And then once that cura is there to have access to their driveway again until they finish doing all the concrete curb and gutter for that half of the street and and they come back to do either the full-dub prepare or the full road rebuild. For option A, we were estimated that the disruption there could be about 10 days for that for option B, we're estimating about six days. Now that's for each end of the street. So we're going to do one end and those residents would see that and then when we go to the other and the other residents would see that and then both under both options the residents would see during the day for the final overlay about two days just during day-on-hour they would not have access to their driveways which means they would have to have left their driveway prior to works commencing that day. And parks are up, if they had to run a trip in the middle of the day, they would still have to move their car before construction started that day. But then in the evening, they would be able to come back into their driveway for the night. And they might not be able to get to their driveway, but they would be able to drive a large part of the way up the street to park so that they're not they're not walking a half mile they're walking a tenth of a mile to get to the house. Yeah so half of the roadway will not be under construction at either time so they would be able to park on the other half of the road. Well, I tipped my hand on this a bit. I, to me, the only reason not to go with option, the full reconstruction is if we felt like we couldn't afford it, if we just didn't have the cash to do it. And that is not the case. We've been anticipating stormwater management projects that are probably not going to be feasible. So we're quite comfortable in terms of the reserves that we have available for something like this and if we're not going to use that to make our streets right, what's it for? Um, okay, well, I kind of feel like that is the sense. Maybe you are not liar. Do I hear? This is not a strongly held position, but my view was that financial future is shaky and nationwide. And no matter how strong it is for us now, we don't know what it's going to be in four years and four more years going through now, but put us in very dangerous situation. And my sense is that as a general rule, we should spend as little as we can and get the job done as well as we can while doing so. And I see kind of the difference between option A and B, one is sort of cat a cat a black and there's a Chevy and I would go with the Chevy and and just basically on that basis. But I'm worried that the Chevy is gonna fall apart in three years and we're gonna spend a lot of time cracking and fixing and not up to county standards and so but that was my view why I took that well there are a few people who's who's counsel I listen to more carefully than yours so I I but I continue Continue to disagree with it. Okay, it's case right now Yeah, do any of the residents have questions? Are there any residents on the virtual feed that would like to unmute and ask any questions of our Contractor or project engineer? Richard Klein here. I just wanted to say say that during this past winter I have noticed and seen a lot of brown water coming up from the Connecticut Avenue end of the center of the the street so city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of Okay. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Well, does anyone want to make a motion about this so we can hold a vote about this? So again, let me just clarify. We need to select first the option and the first motion that's when you're used to direct the to authorize the same thing for the contract amendments. Can I interrupt real quick? If I name it, it's Chip Lindsey. I'm a 28-prim rose. Oh, okay, sure. I thought we heard it. Sorry. It is a main thoroughfare cut through between Western and Connecticut. And I want to make sure, or at least get some clarification about the speed bumps that that we have the street now. And whether or not those are going to be replaced or maybe even get some more if we want it to. So yeah, under the original project scope, the original speed humps will be replaced in their prior locations. This project would not entail adding any new speed humps, because the village has adopted a separate, distinct process. For example. I get it, but I just want to make sure that they are going to come back. So I appreciate it. Thank you. No, uh-huh. Correct. But one of the things that you'll need to make clear if you're making the motion about the budget resolution is just how much you are authorizing to be moved from reserves to the capital budget, pursue it to the option you're choosing plus a percentage for a contingency. So for example, the 200,000 would become 220,000 to the 10% contingency 230 of 15. Correct. Is that, I just want to make sure because we usually have this far more buttoned up than we have to do this evening. Is that okay? Yes. We have presented that perfect. Yeah. So what do we think for the contingency? So just come to 15%. Correct yeah. I moved to authorize the village manager to execute a change order for the primrose store water grown up for BDH and transferring and roadway rehabilitation project in about not to see $240,000 and to adopt resolution number 40125 is drafted for option B for. For option B. For option B. Second. Okay, all in favor. On. Opposed? I'm opposed. Got it. Okay, so the motion passes for option B. Thank you all very much. And of course, we will be following up with the residents of of the block and firming up with our contractor, the anticipated timeline for resuming work and what the firm schedule would need to look like. I just want to thank our contractor for joining us on the virtual feed as well as Robin Bardhart who has done a just fantastic job of helping us sort through but is somewhat you know technical and manner. So thank you all very much. Thank you. The next thing on the agenda is where are we? The first contract authorization for body worn cameras. Yes, got it. A three-year extension for body worn cameras. Yes, and this would be to remain with Motorola, the company that we have been, since the outset of the establishment of our body worn camera program. And this will include replacement equipment as well as maintenance and upgrades of the software which really is a critically important aspect of anybody born camera program because that is where we store the data. That's where we can control the data when we have to remit it in response to a request for redacting sections, etc. And so the department, I believe, has been happy with Motorola and recommends the recommendation. Yes, very much so. They've been very responsive not only in getting the new cameras, but in transitioning to the upgraded model recently. So we were very happy with it. Okay, I'm moved toize the village manager to execute a three-year contract extension for the police department's body-worn cameras with Motorola solutions incorporated. So, I'm David. Okay, and next is for our auditor audit services. Jackie. Okay. So I come for you this evening. The first contract extension that. requesting is for the independent audit services and Lindsey and associates coming to the end of their first initial three year part of the contracts we're requesting the first of our two one year extension options and I did reach out to the the financial review committee and they did give their support of the extension. And they are the only committee that is associated with the work of the audit, of course. Okay. Anybody have a motion on this? I move to authorize the village manager to execute a letter exercising the first of two one year contract extensions for independent auto services with Lindsey and associates LLC. Second. Oh, and they were. Great. And then the next is with the reviews and recycling? Yes. So I'm coming before you to request the extension for a third one year extension. This will be the last one for good for this cycle before we have to rebit it next year. And because we don't normally come to you with third year extensions, as you remember last year when we needed to restructure the contract with the good companies, they had asked if we could tackle an additional extension here and so we did that and so that's why this is coming to you as a third extension. Typically our contracts are three-year base with two extensions. We've had no complaints on the workers. Everyone's really happy with the crews that are out here. I think we might have a revolt if we have to. Yes, we have to have a good reason. Is there any updated sense of their ability to continue their current services after this contract? My sense is that yes, they will be able to continue to provide the services. We anticipate we will see a size. Because there was some concern about could they continue? Yeah, it's just wondering, just make a choice. Yeah, they've gone through some corporate changes. So I think they will certainly be able to continue. I think there's no, maybe a little bit more. No rumbling, so it sounds good. Yeah, I moved to authorize the Village Manager to execute a letter exercising the third of three one year contract extensions for a few in recycling services with the good companies. Incorporated. Second. Oh, in favor. OK. OK, great. So next we have some board authorization. Yeah, so this is pretty simple. Chapter five of the Village Code authorizes the village manager to issue municipal infractions for things that are violations of the village code. The code also allows that other individuals may also have this authority. And so what we're bringing to you this evening is a request for your authorization to designate the villages permitting and code enforcement coordinator to have those powers. As I outlined in my staff report currently, our police officers issue municipal infractions. That requires a two-step process where our permitting code enforcement coordinator, who typically is the one who has witnessed or confirmed the violation, then has to complete an affidavit to then provide over to the village officer who then issues the citation. And so it's just a cumbersome unnecessary two-step process. The other wrinkle would be that if someone requested a hearing for municipal infraction, that means that we'd be sending both the officer and the permitting co-enforcement coordinator to that court hearing to defend that, well, to be witnesses as our legal counsel would defend that municipal infraction. So it just creates a necessary process. We'd like to streamline this along the lines of what chapter 5 allows and Village Council has advised that we should have an affirmative board direction to allow this to happen. I move to authorize villages permitting and code enforcement to coordinate or to issue municipal infractions pursuant to chapter five of Village Code. Second. All in favor? All right. Great. Thank you all very much. And so now we have a bunch of appointments to commissions and committees and boards. We can do it quickly. Yeah, I'll just run through all of them. If someone is even so bold as to want to maybe tackle these all as one motion, you're more than welcome. So the first being the Building Facilities Commission and Shield is a current member who lives within site and sound of the village hall, which is a requirement for at least one physician on the Building Facilities Commission. And then a new member is joining Mel on Coo of Heskith Street to complete the term that was previously vacated by another member a few years ago. So that's why the term would go through April of 2028. For the ethics commission, it would be a two-part reappointment of Mr. Frank McCulloch to serve both as a member and as a chair, as a member of the 2028 and as chair through 2026. I've discussed with Ms. Leonard and Mr. Morseberger that this is, as I've determined, the only commission that requires annual reappointment by the board of the chair, and that's something we might want to revise. It just seems like a necessary process to bring that back to you every single year. Then for the Tree Ordnance Board, prior member Ms. Tindle has indicated that she would like to step down and not seek reappointment for her seat on the Tree Ordnance Board and so current alternate, Kato Scanlon Johnson has volunteered to step up to the Tree Ordnance Board so that would leave one vacancy as a Tree Ordnance Board alternate and then Gail Ipshen of Western Avenue is due for reappointment to fill that second alternate position in the terms are indicated there on your motion sheet. Okay let's do this as a three for I'll give it a shot. Regarding the Building Facilities Commission I move to reappoint to the Building Fac Facilities Commission and shields of West Kirk Street to serve as a member with a term ending April 2030 and to appoint Mel Anku of Hesketh Street to serve as a member to complete the term of a previously vacated position ending April 2028. the ethics commission. I move to reappoint Frank Scott McCulloch, the Kirkside Drive as a member term ending February 2028 and as Chair, term ending February 2026. Regarding the Tree Ordinance Board, I move to a point to the Tree Ordinance Board, Kate O'Scannell and Johnson of Grove Street to serve as a member, term ending April 2028 and to reappoint Gail iftian of Western Avenue to serve as an alternate term ending April 2027. My second in a flow. My name is Paula. My favorite. I hate. Okay. Thank you. So official rates. Get that. So now we have a police report. Good evening. I concur that was some impressive of motion. Well done sir. So as usual our biggest things are theft modives. We actually had some and the sacks with that parking lot. We had three vehicles that smashed the windows. Again, it goes along with the kind of the tail that if you don't leave anything in your car that's visible, you're probably not going to get your windows smashed. If you leave something that looks nice and juicy, you're going to get your windows smashed. And we had people that got to win this match. We have a day, was it during business hours? It was during business hours. 10 a.m. between 10 a.m. and 12.45. Wow. So, and that's with, they have some substantial security presence, but it's usually on the opposite side of the lot. So did it happen on the south side or the north side? It happened on the side closest to us. Okay, yeah. So we weren't in discussions with the security staff there. And we asked them to put some just gentle reminders, longs of luck nice with the Sex Fifth Avenue brand and logo. And just take your stuff with you or cover it up. But again, this was the second grouping of incidents there. And again, it goes back to the adage, you go to a fishing hole and you catch a good size fish, you're going to come back. So we're working with them to increase some patrol through the area as well, some visibility from our side and some language from their side to the patrons and see if they can shift their security forces over a little bit as well because they do have good resources over there. They're just from the opposite side of a lot. The 19th we also had one on the 6300 block of broad bridge, a unlocked vehicle parked in the driveway, looked through nothing taken, between the hours of 11 p.m. and 7 a.m. and the 5500 block of group street on the 23rd between 4.30 or 4.43 a.m. and 4.45, unlock vehicle in the driveway, little bit of US currency was stolen. We continue to have one opening in the police department possibly too, depending on things going on later on. 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One is a true vacancy. The other position has been temporarily vacated due to an officer who has accepted an active duty status with the reserves. And that position has been open since 2023. Because the Chief, as the Chief indicated, he has two candidates that he would like to move forward with. It would likely result in us having one additional complement of officer above what you all have authorized until the point at which we can release the former officer who's on a military status. Under the U.S.A.R.A. regulations, which are the federal regulations that control workers who are under military orders and military service, you have to maintain their health insurance for two years from the start of their military service. In order for us to maintain an individual's health insurance, we have to show them on our roster, even if they're in an active status for them to qualify for insurance through Montgomery County, which is our insurance provider. That timeframe will conclude in October of this year. So assuming that the chief is able to make these two hires and that we have an all-jink star cells this evening, we would like to move forward with essentially having an additional officer compliment. We are not paying compensation currently to the officer, who's a military status. We are only paying for his health insurance. And so it would be to authorize me to essentially go from a total staffing compliment of 28 to 29 that could start as soon as later this month or may, going through October, when we would officially release that officer off of our books and then we would truly go to a compliment of 28 employees. The military orders that we have received for that officer take him through 2029 so we do not anticipate that he will be returning to us certainly not not before October, if at all. Is there anything I skipped over that I should add? So I went just a job has to be held open for him, but that does not mean you cannot fill positions while he's not here. Right. Right. Helped open for him until 2029, but it's five years. So yeah, still 2020. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. the least of our problems is having too many place offs. If he were to come back, we wouldn't be sorry given other, you know, the natural flows of the department. And then we would have a come back to the board for their authorization from there. So I need them, the board to move authorization. It is on the motion sheet that are on your table. It is not on the screen. Yeah. I moved to authorize the Village Manager to hire one additional police officer position above the authorized personnel number in the FY 2025 and pending FY 2026 operating budgets for the police department through October 2025. Second. All in favor? All right. Great. Thank you. Yes. Okay. So you're done? Yes, that's all right. That was it. At this moment, my house is being torn apart by a very high energy, nieces and nephews, and one grandchild who are all visiting the house. And yet, I moved to a turn. Thank you. Thanks, Mom. And there was a second. Oh, yeah. Oh, Ellen's favorite. There were five. Yeah. Just finally, be sure. Thank you.