I'm going to sit with one. Good evening and welcome to the March regular legislative meeting, Madam Clerk, where you please call the roll. May I remain most heard right here? Council Member Lopez here. Council Member Tarantino. Here? Council Member Peters here. Council Member Asim Lea. Here. Council Member K here and Council Member Lopez here. Council Member Tarantino. Here. Council Member Peters. Here. Council Member Asin Lea. Here. Council Member Kaye. Here. And Council Member Stern. Here. Good evening again and welcome to the March 18, 20, 25 regular legislative meeting and spring is peeking its way back to us. Like a motion in a second for the approval of the minutes for the regular legislative meeting for Tuesday, January 21st, 2025, and the committee of the whole session for Tuesday, February 11th, 2025. We have a motion in a second to adopt a approve, a stern and k, all in favor say aye. Any opposed? And a note to submission of meetings minutes for the regular legislative meeting of Tuesday, February 18th, 2025, and the committee of the whole session for Tuesday, March 11, 2025. This evening, our first, I was going to call it an event, but our first item on the agenda is the New Michelle Police Department presentation, just a general policing update. I see our Commissioner Robert Gagola and Deputy Commissioner Neoronel coming to the table. Welcome. We have a presentation commissioner. We do. Excellent. So just to give you a little bit of history on what we do. Back in when I started back in very early years, we had community policing in our shell. Me policing has been in our shell for decades. I want post as a young police officer we engage people all the time. We had basically the packing and started probably in the 1990s. So we've been doing this for quite some time. What happened is about three, four years ago when I became police commission, we had police reform was in Ershel and there was some community meetings that we talked about. What community policing means to the people that we actually serve? And a lot of the meetings, people really didn't know how to define community policing once. It was sort of eye opening. I think the word policing makes the community sort of through them off a little bit. And what we did was really engagement. So we kind of went away from, you know, calling a community policing and we used the term community engagement. I think now when you talk to people, they really understand where it is that we do here at the police department. Back in March of the 7th of 2020, more just a county legislative study climates in David Mark actually signed a proclamation naming March 7th 2020 as a nurse health police department day. And that was really the proclamation is on the left. It was really because of the community policing that we have done up to that point. And we really didn't sit on the laurels. We really kind of doubled down and I think it's baseball. And I think what we've done is decided not to be able to use tech. We really go out and meet our folks. So many ways in which we do our engagement, some are more of the traditional meetings with people and really it's members at all levels that attend community meetings. You can see there's the one meeting on the right-hand side that was at Generation Church, the city manager and I were asked to go and give presentations there in January and we went and spoke to people of the community. That was actually the meeting that we kind of criticized that at one of the, it's just the hard meetings. But that's what we do. We go to the community, ask, and we will go there, and we will talk to them, and communicate and help people what we do. We go to ION University, my Royal University, we have a really good relationship with both of those universities. Primarily through their criminal justice programs, we have students from in-roll in our services police academy now. We do a lot of things with Dione University. We have citizens for better-than-er shell meetings quarterly and we attend neighborhood associations. And it's not just, again, it's not just meeting the deputy. It's really all the Susan members from the prominent head all around us. We have detectives go to the community, the neighborhood means. Really just to talk about the prime trends that are happening in specific neighborhoods and give sort of an idea of for cry prevention and things that we're seeing. Continuing with the community engagement, we really do a lot with our folks. Part of what we do, one of the big things in our engagement is some of the programs. So our citizen's police academy, I just mentioned, is a 10 week program, we're actually currently in a police academy now, we have about, I think it's a week two, about 24 or so, never show residents who are there. Some are Monroe College students, actually. It's always a great turnout, and we have to sometimes wait less people, because this I mean, people who don't want to come in. National night out, if you've been to our National night out events, you know, huge events. People really love them. We have a great time putting them on. Community contacts, we have established community contacts. A lot of the stuff is repaid, I know I've talked about this in the past, but community contacts. Traditionally police departments have looked at the performance of their officers, and as a metrics, they would look at arrests, they would look at the summons as issued, they looked at park summons as, and they're really enforced with measures. We decided that, you know, we're looking at engagement and we're gonna give our offices credit for the times that they take time to stop different role and just meet and greet and have conversations with our community members. So they're asked to do community contacts, which is legitimately stopping and talking to people in the community, whether it's a store, a church, if kids hang it out, and then ask for a time so that we now have a record of their community contact. And so when it comes to the evaluation time, we can say, look, we acknowledge your work and we see we see that this is a metrics that we could look to see that you're doing what we're asking to do. Some of the other programs we've done build a bed. This is a nonprofit that has been coming to their shell, police department for the past three or so years. Literally, we're building beds inside the other police department that need it to families who can't afford beds for their children. We've conducted a drug awareness and dark hand distribution at the train stations. We did a sound list, but we just recently had our traffic officers do a DWI awareness at an alcohol and on this meeting Just again, it's a different way to connect the people and let them know what we do and our engagement with them. Senior events, I'll talk a little bit about the downtown Vanguard in a little bit, and our clergy rather response team. They're a really good resource for us, but they help us with our engagement. They're called when we have instances where there might be sort of a high level of stress in the community whether it's you know because of our presence or because of an instant that occurred they'll be there to sort of help us get the message across that you know we're job. This is what we need to do and this sort of our go-between is very successful. Very good folks to have with us. Probably the best thing I talk about is our youth engagement. We really like talking about and dealing with our kids in a positive way. One of the most successful programs we've had is our mental, mental or simple loop. And basically it's, you know, police officers meeting with young people about 14 to 17 year old, men just, you know, having conversations with them. This is through the youth bureau talking to them at some point because it's a component actually stop and have pizza and break bread and you just sort of you know in a very relaxed atmosphere. Three years ago youth bureau Kelly Johnson particular reshap to me and said they wanted to do a learn and earn sort of like young girls on fire. We jumped at that. We were going to do a police kind of a camp that summer. So it worked out perfectly. So we started the D-Learn and Earn with the 14th and 17th year olds. Very successful program. This is year three, I believe, coming up. 10 week program from July. I'm sorry, six week program from July to August. And we get to engage with kids. They get to go on trips. to get to meet a lot of our police officers. We sort of hope that this ignites an interest in them in policing, particularly with the nurse health police department. To sort of piggyback off that, we wanted to do something more with the kids. Rather than just only have a six-week window with them. So we established a youth cadet program. So it's a police youth cadet program, a 14-17-S age group. We have continued with that for the past two years. It's a group of about 20 to 25 kids. We see that the usually is once every 20 years. They come to the police headquarters. We have all of this is, all the team, they give them sort of instruction on policing, how we do, what we do, why we do what we do. They seem to really enjoy it. There's a photograph there on the first photograph on the right top. That is a picture of Scott Rubin, who's a teacher in the high school, who does the forensics class. We partner with him every year to do his, he does a mock trial, a mock trial, mock crime scenes in Nature's Light Woods. And he was invited to our academic program to talk about what that is. So he's kids maybe, again, to his class at some point. We sort of acknowledge that, you know, the 14 to 17 year old kids we have covered, but it's the 18 to 24 year old kids. These are the kids who, you know, are of that OIP age group that the Judge Rice identified as, you know, probably the most needed, needy. And so we this year, we're establishing a, it's a commercial career program, that's through the Boys and Girls Club, they secured funding through a nonprofit. We are, we too with that program. We actually just left this a mentorship park portion of that, Devin I and then number we have a 10 police officer who are acting as mentors for these young folks. So these are the kids who are of the age to possibly take police tests and start a career in law enforcement. Many of them have no family members or friends who are in law enforcement. So there's a really good opportunity to introduce them, to mentor them, to explain to them how to go about having a law enforcement career. Really good kids. It's gonna be a three cycle program. So the first group is in their house, about 24 kids as well. Again, so we, two to 12-week program, we, the second session later on in the year, the third session,-up. Again, that's what the boys and girls love. And then the typical fishing ships, bike rodeos, the fact that it was all things that we enjoy dealing and the folks that we do it with seem to really get something out of it. I think you might not take a bit, but I think the web page and social media engagement is just as important as everything else we do. We are probably the only police department in Washington County, starting one of the only city who put their crime and arrest data on their webpage that complaint data. data so that's something that you can plant data. We've published that publicly. We have a portal where you can make a complaint and it goes directly to our internal affairs. It's also a compliment portal that can go right to the internal affairs that can get distributed to the commanding officers. webpage has crime mapping links so if you want to see things that are covering neighborhoods you can look in that link. We We have our recruitment that goes on our webpage and also on social media. It's the hashtag down there, our PDF Army. That has been very successful. We've actually interviewed a number of people who learned of our job, not just new people, people who take a test of people who from other jobs who transfer to them, who saw that information, they saw the hashtag, they looked at our video, and they want to be part of our piece of farming, which is very good. And we also have some public safety announcement videos that we created and put out. One is Halloween safety for young kids. English and Spanish, one is the school's open, so that goes out every early September. And the third one was just recently we had foot for the holidays, the porch pirates, just kind of what to do, what not to do. In our social media, we have a very good person in charge. Melissa Denise does a really great job of getting pictures and messages out on social media and on both Instagram and Facebook. She does a phenomenal job. And we think, can we get a really good connection without community that way as well? So the downtown Vanguard district, this is going to, we're going to establish a new bike unit. Really to address quality life issues. We're working on a name, we might call it the downtown bike unit, not very invented, but it might be the DBU. We're going to get you guys some better names for us. Let me know what's going on here, consider. What we're considering doing, and I spoke to Cinemountry, we spoke to Parks and Recommissioner, and we're going to work out of that kiosk that is located in the library, it's that triangular building that is in the library green corner, as soon as you go into the, I guess the main entrance of Library Green. And the idea is to establish your presence there and maybe have signage that it's a police building occupied with an officer at times, have other officers go in to spend time there. But really that becomes a hub in that area. Mostly to address some of the issues that we had in that park. This bike unit is going to be, it's three or four. We have three study for four. The one that's going to come in, there's also going to be two beat officers that can come in and assist. The idea is they're going to be out day and night weekends as well. The events that we have downtown, they'll be working those events. Their focus is going to be, not only do I have a green, the ITC, New Rock City, want to go down to Bracey Houses and to Monroe University and to deal with the downtown parking concerns that we know are there that we know they exist and these are things that they really have been of issue for us for years. So this is going to be a small group of dedicated officers for that area to address all the issues that we've had. And again, we can supplement that with, you other officers, but they're going to be their hand-tick to do this, they understand what we're looking for, and we're looking forward to getting them out there. Finally, our community affairs ban, community engagement ban. And if you have any questions, comments, I mean, he, community engagement band. If you have any questions, comments, any need to answer? I kind of went through quick because folks told me not to go too long. Thank you both so very much. I will open for questions, comments, and suggestions for my colleagues. That's my little husband looking at my wife. One minute. One minute. One minute. Thank you. Thank you so much for everything that you have been doing in trying to engage the communities. And I am very much interested in working with you with the bike roadie of the coast. That is something that is happening not only in my district, but that kids are You know riding these bikes and playing around and you can really get them into problems and people that are driving You can also get hurt So I would love to work with you on that and the community behind that was something that we very much wanted Thank you because You made it up. Yes, you asked for it. We're going to hold it. It's it. It's a nice size vehicle that we could put out at events. It attracts people, people see it, they kind of grab a technology. We could use it in a variety of ways. We put it in, we use it downtown or in Christmas. Just to have a visible police presence down here. So we use it for police presence. Events, we use it, you know, a touch of truck events, which is always good. But, you know, when they're going to be these events during the year, you will station them, you put it by library green, during summer events. So it's just, again, it's just a platform to work out of, but also for people to come in, if they want to have a sort of a quiet safe place to talk to. You have a really nice menu of diverse areas of engagement, but I'm wondering, Paul, I'm asking, is there any programming around with girls, with young girls, from girls in the stage, or is it just a catch-all, and it's not any specialization around girls? So we have female, we saw who interact very well with female officers, but for these particular programs, there are a number of girls who would be participating and I think the fact that we have the detectives that we have involved, you know, kind of breaks down that wall. The relationship that we have within the community, it's not necessarily focused as often within the around around our school districts anyway, it's mostly within the community and not necessarily about the school. Yeah, so we've done things with the school years, four years and years ago. And the school district maybe is the board itself is sort of back away a little bit from that. You know, police officers in school they're not comfortable with it. So we don't really program in the schools. This is why we establish the cadet program so that we can still interact with our kids. We partner with the boys and girls above. This is the second deput program I just mentioned, the law enforcement program. That's the second program that we hired them. We had an anti-gun violence program that was very successful last year. So our programming is to get to our kids in a different way that is outside of the school, but we would welcome them. Well, I'm not necessarily asking for that. No, I'm not. I'm kind of glad that actually that you've you have be welcome. Well, I'm not necessarily asking, but I'm kind of glad that you've been more engaged within the community because in the schools, the kids, there's a lot of kids in a lot of different schools and a lot of different behaviors can occur that kid. You know, you're not there. No, I agree. Yeah, so I think that's the best way to do it. Where you are. How are you? I'm actually thinking. Do you have an event calendar for the last several years? Are the places where you've been consistently? Yeah, we, like, not on the point. We have, I'd like to see that. What age demographic, do you believe have been most involved in just the Demographics do you believe have been most involved in just this involvement? As far as crime and what age demographics do you feel like have been the most impacted by? So, you know, they had raised the age. So, you know, they used to deal with you as, you know, they were up to 16 years for the age right so that that changed We still get we still have new doctors. They're still you cry off the age of 18 But it's really you know I'll say to the 24 probably democratic is really much seen awesome of that if you're looking at just younger people Okay Yeah, that's sort of why we wanted to go towards, you know, that program often could be in April 24th, as opposed to going back to 14 or 17 years. And, you know, I mentioned OIP, one of the graduates of OIP is in that law enforcement career path, which is cool. You get to see, you know, these kids who may have been in trouble as a little bit now that they're looking to. And to want to associate with law enforcement on a weekly basis is really cool. Yeah, it's good. I actually love that. And that's actually a really great segue to my next question, which is, what is your success rate from the NRPD career center and other programs like that as far as being able to convert youth either into the law enforcement or some peripheral, you know, I think time will tell because these programs are relatively new and you're talking with first demographics really were 14 to 17 years. Those kids really are getting to the point now where they can take the exam to be hired. This new group is they're old enough you know once you're in 19 you can take the the places exam. So we'll see after this probably after this year how successful these programs are. I can tell you having been to, particularly the summer program, year one in particular, it wasn't worth a mouth, it was an infogram, kids had a number of summer employment they can chose from. The kids who went to the police program, first day, I want to introduce myself, ask anybody interested in policing like no hands, anybody know please, you know, very few hands. At the end of the program, there is a picnic, and I went up to the kids who were from our program, and you can just see it's a different kind of different vibe. I asked anybody interested in please, then got, yeah. It sort of ignited that interest. So again, they would be of that maybe 19 year age now, but that is one you see if you see it probably in the moment where they don't consider being a cop too. Yeah, I can see myself doing this. And that's really testament to the police officers that are there, instructing and just talking to his kids, you know, that are on their level. And, you know, they can see themselves and be because we do other diverse work for us, you know, people see themselves now as police officers. It's a tough and some of them look something. Right. Actually, I could agree with that because I grew up with the dare car and Detective Moravrily and some of the officers that were involved in that. So I still remember a lot of people in my age group have an nostalgia around that. So I wanted to hear that. I actually love to see throughout the presentation that you had so many programs that were very dedicated to youth interactions. Regarding, I saw in the generations' church of the what other religious organizations, especially in communities that have been highly impacted by crime, what other religious organizations have had long-term engagement with, public events around things like that. Yes, so some of the temples have, but Temple of the Jewel has an annual touch of truck event. You know, we go in and out of the JCC, you know, we've done things with it, but we've been around to a lot of different events at churches and religious institutions. That was there just as an example of the community, that they had scheduled. And they wanted the city manager, I just just to talk about it. I think that was more in response to people who attend the Citizens for Veterinary Shell, who not complain, but, you know, often say that, you know, we only have these meetings during the day, they wanted something at night, so I think Mark McLean just said, we'll have a meeting at night just to maybe get people out and different people out to see what we get. So for heart, I'm sorry for all the questions. Why do we have citizens for veterinary sheltering the work day as a person? So it's been established for years. I think we've talked about it. And in the meeting itself, you never get a consensus because of what you wanted to do for this month. We're supposed to have a March meeting that I put off because of the Council meeting. So you're going to have these Council meetings next month at night. So we've sent everybody on that distribution list, just to even not say we're not going to the meetings for March, we're gonna hold off it, we're gonna kind of, I don't wanna say take over your meetings, but this is where it should be. We have an opportunity now to go to wherever you live, to go to your council meetings, we're gonna be there. So this will be an opportunity to have a nighttime meeting as opposed to a daytime meeting. I don't think we're against it. I think you just, you don't get that consensus to get people who don't want to work, you know, go to nights, you know, so if you don't want to work, you know, come to our day. So it just was, I think the pocket of the folks who go most often prefer the daytime meeting. Last question. What support do you need from us to wrap that community engagement so that it's more community friendly as opposed to looking like another police band that people might get carbon-authentic to? I think you have to convince me that it's the future. I'll come to want it and see what it would look like. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I think your move depends on what you just said you have in mind. You've sort of talked about it. It's during holidays, you know, they want to decorate certain things. So, you know, I think if you have ideas about what that would look like. And even if it's like a temporary type of a thing for a vet, I think that's probably a good idea to do. I love to hear you're going to have presence in every of these parks. And I'm thankful for the engagement I get. So. Good morning, Baki. I would comment, appreciate that you can community contacts and your metrics. For the officers, that's great. I also love the idea of utilizing the Kiasca Delivery Green. And despite your very comprehensive presentation, I know a few other community engagements that you've done in my district where it's volunteering with the mobile food pantry. I regularly see officers doing that. You've come to my temple to help with practicing active shooter drills and there was some of the name on that happens at Albert Leonard for civic engagement and women and there are female officers there, and I only participate in that every year. Just thank you. Thank you. Couple of Mr. You've touched on it already, but how do you measure success in these events? Like it seems like clearly there is a career component to recruit new officers, but are there other things that you're looking at to know that these are working? What are those goals and how you measure your success? So what you're talking about, the events you're talking about, I mean like the youth events, but then you know even the other kind of community. So I think you know for the community events I do the success is the tenets. People want to be there with us knowing that it's a piece of that. I think that's Kate, right? And then, you know, just engaging that we get with the community and how they engage with us. You know, you look at events like Nationalite Out, where everybody, everybody's having a good time and you know, guards and bad people are talking to us and it's just that pays a lot of dividends for us, I think, with community contacts, you know, I tell my cops all the time, like, you don't want the first time you're meeting someone to be when they're under the rest, right? You would like at least the facial recognition, hey there's office and Jones, you know I got this problem with my significant other, you know I trust that that person who would take care of us in the right way. So those are the things I don't know that you can measure them necessarily with the other, the other things, you know talking to the boys and girls, public, particular, the feedback we got from the kids, after the course, the feedback we got from the adults from the boys and girls, how successful it was, how much the kids enjoyed it, and how much they received from it. And we're not going to know necessarily if these kids who are coming from these programs are really interested in being police. You know, I mean, we get it there, they're just so young, they're trying to figure out what they want to do. But if it gives them a moment to say, you know what maybe we do, you know, we'll see in a few years. But that's really what we're trying to accomplish. This is just really getting to see us in a different light, not the way we're always portrayed, sometimes portrayed with other people. I have a bunch of stuff. Oh, OK. I'll just explore. Yeah, buckle up. No, just kidding. So I will open this period of thank you. Honestly to you, it's definitely a commissioner to your entire team. It really, you guys are everywhere. I mean some of your officers, I'm coming down sleep because I see them at all kinds of days and hours. And so just really grateful for your partnership. And it's a city with a myriad of complex issues and I see the professionalism and the emphasis on community. So I just want to articulate that. I also want to call out even the web page social media. A lot of these things that not exist five years ago on our page. So again, that's been growth and you hearing and responding and seeing the shift towards transparency. So the crime and arrest data, the complaint data, the compliment complaint. I've been at this table when they've been introduced. And so, and that's what within the last five years. So again, grateful for that. I just want to call that out as I think it would be being responsive. And the one thing you didn't raise, which we chatted about anecdotally. So there's a feedback portal where if you call them when you get prompted to rate your service kind of and provide it. So, and the last data point had like 157 responses. So like the numbers are not inconsequential. And they're real time for people who've received services and it's broken down also by demographic, racial, gender, and just literal feedback. And the, the, I was looking for something else and stumbled. I forgot you'd introduced it. You told this up, but I forgot about it. So I was just like, oh, let me deep dive into this. And I was impressed, honestly, with what I saw, the feedback, and knowing that it's a real time data. So again, kudos to you for... I had forgotten about it, so I was just like, oh, let me deep dive into this. And I was impressed, honestly, with what I saw, the feedback, and knowing that it's a real time data. So again, kudos to you for, you just have it uploaded. So you know, it could go either way, and it's all very transparent. So I would encourage colleagues to, I don't know where I found it. I was like, in a data mine yesterday, but it's there. And maybe we can elevate that. So again, thank you for the web presence. My favorite question for you, you won't be surprised. Can we talk about crime stats, part one crimes, and where, how are we year to date? Because the last time I feel like I heard you discuss this would have been in December at one of our citizens for better New Michelle. And if I recall correctly at that time, you said the part one crime threw down 9.9%. How does, you know, it's really hard to gauge it, so we'd love to hear from you all that. Yep, so we did land a little bit a lower last year in Portland, Christ. And it was probably around, I think, it's maybe five or six percent from the year before. We are up a little bit this year. It's only three months, so we're not talking about huge numbers. the driver of the so far has been burglaries. We had an uptick in burglaries. 75% increase, but it's 12th. You know, 21 this year versus 12 last year. I'm great at lostings of auto, up 62%. But that's 13 as opposed to 8 last year. So numbers are very small. The percentages seem higher than they are. So, overall, we're up about 15%. But, again, I wouldn't get too crazy with this. We made a rest. We made a number of the rest. But, most recently, there was our pro-pumpent to Columbia House's smashing grab. We ended up a week later. So, caught him in the the act doing the same type of thing. He admitted to doing the Beyond a Burger. That would have been a burger who continued to do smashing at Burger who was having a lot of the grab. So sometimes you arrest the right people and end up a little bit of the uptick, you know, and stuff to stop it. And then Larson's up a little bit over the last year. Did mine larceny from the Amazon? I would slow a lot of time ago. So, larceny's just basically stealing of property. So, it could be, you know, anything from a lawn ornament to a shopper thing. And that's, again, 18 to 12 percent, but it's really 140 or 158. So, 18 more occasions of a large thing. So again, I'm not happy the numbers are up, but I'm not that concerned because it is such a small number so far. Okay. And if the numbers, you know, arrests are up 20% parking tickets are up and meaningful traffic tickets are just about really should itself. So anything is kind of going the right direction with the exception of those couple of crimes. And then mostly the property crimes are thought to come. Okay. Is our property part one or part two friends? So the burglaries grand larcen of the order and larcen is a facility part one. Okay. Thank you for that information. Ruby D, I have like a couple of different parts. So A, thank you. I'm really excited at the thought of repurposing the library green key assets. My colleagues have said I'm just affirming that. Can you explain to me when we say we're three standing, oh, can't read my handwriting, but three on a bike with a potential force and then two B officers, is that every shift in? No, no, so there's going to be a unit with a supervisor, Sergeant, and three full-time bike officers. In addition, there's a fourth officer who's going to be assigned that officer more than likely, depending on the need, depending on what we really see out there. We'll come in for events, maybe look back to the locations, that kind of stuff. There are two B officers that already work that area. They're going to supplement this as well. So essentially you have about five to six officers plus the supervisor who are dedicated to the problems in that area. So it's the ITC, it's library, green, it's the downtown parking congestion that we get. You're going to go down a bracing road. They're going to take care of that whole area, including the Vanguard District, when we see what that actually turns out to be. But that doesn't, you know, they'll be supplemented by the sector police officers to see how you guys are. So there still be other police officers there that will react and deal with issues. They're just going to be in that one smaller area of the city concentrated. And the idea is, um, day and night weekend. So whatever the need be, that's where they'll be. So if you have an event, if we know, you know, the library, we always have this defense summer on weekend's, they'll, you know, at least one or two of those offices will be there. But we want to have enough coverage so that, you know, we do deal with daytime issues as well as nighttime issues. Right. Okay, so it'd be 24 hours. This sort of is going to be this kind of D.B.U. Probably not maybe B.D.U. B.D.U. B.D.U. Downtown by U.N.S. I've not created something like that to my other colleagues. So, but it's not 24 hours. It would probably be, you know, maybe 16, it would be the date time in early evening, maybe up to midnight, depending. Okay. It's really when the need arises that we need to address, you know, coverage. And so, you know, it might not be early morning, but probably being 10 o'clock midday. But again, all that is, and the odds is no, this is a new unit. It's all subject to change, but it's all responsive to the needs of that particular area. So the need to staff the follow up follow-up, comes when the readers, and you mentioned hand pick, like what were we looking for when you selected the office? Yeah, so what were the skillset were you focusing on? Yeah, so Captain Rodriguez, it's his division. So he put out a request for everybody who was interested. He called through the memos of people with making requests and he selected for offices who he thought would best based on the careers they had, you know, just things in their background. So it's, as people he knows and feels comfortable that are gonna do exactly what we're looking for them to do, how we expect to be done. Okay. Councilman Peters computers that's on your hand up? Yeah, just a question, since we went into some of the data and some of the locations, particularly just want to talk a little bit about Unity Park, for example, we're talking about setting the key awesome life. And I don't see this, but when you mentioned something about needing to be able to have the presence there and things along those lines and in your observations as a police department, what are the conditions and situations that are requiring the use of what you described as having a station there? And in addition to that, when you start talking about a restaurant, I was wondering whether or not that you have any kind of observations around why a restaurant means what's going on. And in third, which doesn't have that much to do with all of you, but you respond to things, right? We have, I was wondering also, your interaction with individuals who perhaps don't have any place to live. Mm-hmm. But for the homeless. And in our city, we don't necessarily have, as you know, any standing place for them to be, past maybe or nine a.m. like during the day they're out into the into the shoot. Right. So I'm just wondering from your observation. So I see this not as a as a police. You know what I mean? If you guys see it as an intersection around public safety with a number of different variables that really impact that and bring that in the play and we don't necessarily have that in place. I always feel that it concerns me when the probability associated with how we are moving forward with downtown and other places and the desired need for people to feel as they show you know safe and also the how one begins to identify whether or not one feels safe or not right and what that response might mean for the police department and situations where you get a service call where you have to respond. There's a number of things I have to ask you. I'll try. That's very good. So I think when you talk about the why we're there, I think it's mostly based on the quality of life complaints that the city receives about the area. And a lot of them are, as you point out, not necessarily across. It's to be unsightly people that you may be offended by. To look at the smell of people that certainly not a crime. We don't enforce that. We don't, we have social services that is actually going to be part of the bigger program. The social service groups that are going to go out and identify folks who might be either homeless or have some kind of alcohol or drug abuse and offer services. I can tell you that we as a police department already do that. We are officers already know that, you know, when they encounter someone, first thing they ask, are you okay? Do you need help? A lot of these folks don't want help. They don't ask for help. And even though I think it's a little bit of a misnomer, we think that this more homeless people that it are. I don't know that a lot of the people out there are in a certain homeless. They just adhere to be what people are with in the vision of a homeless person. That's a big one. So it is a social issue that we're trying to deal with, but it's not an issue. I know that. And what we do is we have the MCRT rules, to us, we have a WIJST accounting mental health employee who does come out with the systems. They'll do follow-ups with people that we've identified. They're very good at all of that. And I know the city manager has, because they already take steps to get other social services involved. It's the behaviors that we look at. So if people are hanging out and drinking in public, things that we can enforce that will enforce the laws, you know, we understand, you know, people have constitutional rights and we don't necessarily to just move them away. So it's a difficult problem that we're trying to handle, but like every police department in the country, pretty much. Just hit your brother. He is more bad. Go ahead, go ahead. Can I ask a follow-up to that? I was going to try to look ahead. I was going to look ahead. I just want to just very quickly, you know, and I'm glad that you're acknowledging that it's not a policing issue unless there's an event that happens that is. What organizations have you seen on the ground that have been incredibly effective at intervening with people who might have housing and security, substance abuse, issues, mental health issues. Similarly, you've actually bought up your mental health crisis intervention unit as well before, but outside organizations, positive community organizations. Yes, so the West Coast County Department, that the health, has a employee who does go out with us on occasion. They make reference. They will refer people to various services. Part of the problem is a lot of people don't want services. So it becomes you can't just voice services on people But they've been successful in offering and getting some people up there. There have been a number of people One particular person who used to hang out North and fifth Who is you know again? You know, but he's on site. We we talked himself, he used menacing to keep me up with his perspective. I don't think he ever actually did, but, you know, he had a menacing presence and after some time, the West County mental health department was able to get him off the street into program and sort of resolve that type of action out the evening. He's been around a little bit. He's been around for a while. So, but he might be a different case because he there is definitely underlying mental illness with him. Yeah, what we've seen sometimes is people who either have some underlying, maybe undiagnosed mental illness, maybe undiagnosed alcoholism, things where they either don't want to acknowledge it, they can't acknowledge it, or they refuse to acknowledge it. And that's where it becomes more problematic for us. I know, again, just to speak, it's a manager at like hope services that have been useful to anybody else up ahead. And the MCRT has been, they've been very good at the follow-ups and trying to get people help. And the fact that they work with us, they'll see the reports work for things right to them And they use reports on what they did so they've been you know really good asset first You know this is a difficult you know my worst To associate with policing and other things At point, I've always found it challenging to be a vocal team. It was a time when people were in shelters, and a lot of times people didn't wanna be in shelters, as you know, it's not a big deal. But if and when there was some program that occurred during the day, right? Where people could be, where they would be some form of protection from the elements. You know, we don't have that. We really don't have that. And that might be something along the lines that might be important for us to look into that further, because this will increase and the can go back quickly. For the lack of that kind of infrastructure, it makes it very challenging for when it is that you're engaged in because you get called for everything. People are like the way this person looks and then you're in the smile. And it thinks that this is not what the university might just going to try to address with good. Yeah. Yeah. I think you hit it right up. The head. We had a nice meeting yesterday with a bunch of our services, Whole Lexington Center, the county trying to, you know, first identify all the services that they provide and with the goal of identifying any gaps that we can see. So we identified and I was actually, we ate it right on the edge. It's a common thing yesterday about services that we could provide people today like programming stuff. It was one of the common themes that was coming up all the time. Access like people don't know that these services are out there. And, you know, surprisingly, there's a lot of people that want to work. That go to these facilities and they actually want to do something, but because of the circumstances that they're in, they're just finding it difficult to work. So, you know, workforce development became a topic that was discussed yesterday. And, you know, Montefere who's there, who's definitely wanted to be a partner in all of this. So I think you said one thing that was definitely a common theme that came out of our whole workshop that we had. I hope we would lead to some action items this year. That's great to hear. We'll get an update on the initiative this summer. Yes. I think I'll put my Peters have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. I'm not going to have a good time. Thank you both very much. Thank you, thank you. We appreciate the service. Thank you. All right. Moving on to the agenda. It is one through eight, our part of our consent agenda, having previously moved and seconded to be placed here. They have an emotion and a second to adopt. I know, not one through eight, two through eight. We have an emotion and and second to adopt two through eight. K and Lupas, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Two through eight are adopted. Moving on to the resolutions. And I have a question about this. Nine and 13, nine is a council member Tarrantino. 13 seems to be related to the Excel doc with the financial. So can you, as your deputy commissioner up and deputy city manager coming up to the table, if you could walk us through this just so we know if we should be voting for them together or separate. 9 and 30. Okay. Come to member Tarantino. I know this was a, I think. Yeah. You know, I, you know, I'm fine with, you know, like I said, with the question part of bonding and, you know, I had a question, obviously, we spoke about last week. The King's Highway Main Street, mind me. And when we were talking last week, we were talking about having some money set aside to do a study. I just want to make sure that money is available, how much it is. And, you know, I was down there twice in the last, over the last weekend just to get a handle on what's going on down there. And I can tell you that it took four lights to get through the Blaming Avenue Kings Highway area there. The traffic was gridlocked coming out in Ordozi place, you know, to Costco and all the other businesses. And I think it's important imperative to the city that that Western gateway, which is the gateway from the western part of the city into New York. if there is shell needs to be really looked at and something implemented as quickly as possible. So I want to make sure also that when Wilking bonds in the future will keep our lines open to cleaves money available so that we can do this because we're talking about I think next year going to the two-way streets, the street from there. And I think that it's going to be essential that this has to be fixed. Otherwise, we're going to bottle that coming down into this area from the rest of downtown area. And it's also one of the ability of the downtown area's success because people are going to get bottled like down there. So, you know, I just want to make sure I'm going to put the money away. I'm going to put $110,000. $110,000. Is that enough to the due to study? Well, she will be. OK. OK. We'll use that on point. So that was that page 105 of your packet, that's the main changes. And we left the $110,000 in that project. So the bond will be able to do the study. I can do it right away. I'm just going. In that project. Right. So the bond will be able to do this study. I think they do it right away. Yeah. Yeah. The cash is available. Yes. Okay. We just kind of put in a scope and we're going to argue. Yeah. Also, you know, I'm a little concerned about the traffic signalization program that we're implementing right now. would also be getting getting new lighting right new traffic lights in that program the two way to make a right yes, I want to make sure that We don't go in there and implement something that we're going to tear down and replace a year later at you know and knowing the cost of these traffic signals You know you been spending $1 billion. So is there a way of getting the traffic study done? And then when we do put the system in place, they're putting it in a way that it can be altered without having to take everything apart and start from scratch. Is there a way of doing that? Oh, can we look at that? Yeah, absolutely. Every part of the scope is part of traffic still. So they're going to take into account everything that's going on. Probably wake up. Aversion, the whole area in general. Yeah, I just don't want to suspend the money twice a bit. I have to do that. OK. That's seeing that when changes can run a little bit. As needed. Okay, may I have a motion in the second? Should it adopt ID number nine? Let's find the authorization. Heaters and Tarantino, all of them say aye. Any opposed? Thank you so much. Item number 10 is a proposed request for support for the Greener Climate Action Plan. I've safely received the presentation last week. The presentation was reattached this week's agenda. I'm assuming council member K might have couple words, so you're okay. I'm good, I'm very happy that we're at the stage. I'm looking forward to actually implementing. Any questions or comments on item number 10? We have a motion in a second to adopt the resolution, supporting the 2025 updates screener. Kay and Sashinli, Ellen Bavard, any opposed? There you go. Moving on to item number 11, which is a proposed resolution authorizing the hiring of Director, Law LLC regarding Con Edison Electric and Gas Reads before the New Republic Service Commission. This is very exciting. The WCD Manager, are you going to give us some info or is it our city manager? a memo? So we were approached by some of the neighboring municipalities of getting together and hiring an advocate for Wester's accounting for the next proposed rate increases by Goddard medicine. We thought it was a good idea to get involved with this initiative, as we did not have the Worcesters County didn't have a rep at the last rate increase. So it will allow us to have this person advocate for us, be actually sitting on the hearings of the commission. And it's basically gonna retain this person for $100,000 being spread out amongst 20 new municipalities. So it's $5,000 each, not to exceed an amount. And I think we think it's a good initiative. At least we have somebody at the table representing our towns and villages and cities. I think we're also close to 20 already. So I think it will have the 20. And if we get more than 20, it'll be less than five. So it just feels like a no-brainer in many ways. And I mean, you all see your own kind of bills. And I'm sure we've heard from constituents about the kind of bills. It's crazy to think we didn't have representation of the last negotiation. Councilman Braschamoy. I love that we're going to have representation of this new negotiation. I also love the idea of us, you know, not being so competitive with our neighbors, other municipalities and getting good ideas and just working together on things. So I think that's a very important thing. It's going to go under the radar because the impact of CONED right now is crisis for some people with the bills that they're seeing. I think it's important for us to be able to work with and get great ideas from others. From my neighbors, from my partners, from other people that are in the same boat that we are in a different place. Do you have some vote that comes from your start? one question around what will be able to access with this arrangement. Do you know, will we, you know, these are negotiations for many months? Will we be able to actually see and speak with, you know, lawyer to understand where they stand and kind of what ability to be have to get regular updates for that. I believe regular updates will be possible. The contracts will be administered by Ryebrook. They'll be kind of the main conduit for us. They'll actually make the payment to the law firm. And then we will actually refund Ryebrook with $5,000. They're hopefully less. We can ask. I mean I don't know why not. They've been you see many times has their motions, that import motions on the website. A lot of that stuff is about. It's a cons of a brush and a nice point. This has been super collaborative from the other municipalities and so I would be shocked if we asked for some regular kind of something that they would say now. You know think they're really happy that so much support is also really noted to work together as opposed to fighting based on our little purportors. Two years. Any other questions or comments on item number 11? Very none, they have a motion in a second to adopt a lemon, stern and ash and light. I'll say, I, opposed. I don't know but 12 is the proposed transfer of City Council member Marthalo Mez is stipend. Go ahead Council member Leves. Well I am very happy to announce that we are going to start with a program called How Well Do You Know? Ah, really? Reading youth from between the ages of 17 up to to really get to know each other. And so whenever someone says, well, you're people, you're people know how well do you know us. When we know about history, when we get to know about where we're coming from and our challenges and triumphs. You know, it makes us all understand that we are all one. So, I spoke to the boys and girls club, we have met with David and I have also spoken to Shane. And we're gonna be working with JCC too and many other silks. And I am very excited. So now we need to raise more money. So if you don't know where you want your style to go, please, towards this program, how well do you know me? That's great. Years of the making for you. Yes, congratulations. We wanted to start in 2020, but then the pandemic came up on us, and we just questioned. Questions or comments for our colleague, Cubsman Rushaloyan. One near a show. There you go. Yep. Anything else? No. Second to top the end 12 comes remember Lopez and Peter's all in favor say aye I am the opposed moving on to item number 13 which is a Anything else? No. Motion to second to top that in 12. Come to remember Lopez and Peters all in favor say aye. Aye. And he opposed. Moving on to item number 13, which is a proposed amendment to the 2025 budget capital budget, amending you guys to read that. Or just number two, 12, please read for it. You guys got this. What? Did we get a motion in the second? I thought I did that. Motion to second Lopez. I thought I did that. I was going to say, low-peds. Low-peds and Peters. I always say, aye. And I throw the note. I was so, I don't know, I'm a dirt seeker. It's like a PCR. No, no, no, no, no. Who wants a PCR? Don't leave it like 20 years. All right. Stay focused, people. I remember 13. It was a proposed amendment to the 2025 capital budget. Anything you want to add, anyone? Finance or city managers team? Any questions or comments from my colleagues on item number 13? Hearing none, you have a motion to second to adopt item 13. Lopez and Kay, all of them are say aye. Aye. Item number 14. Propose the amendment to the charter of the city when you're a child regarding Article 12, Section 12, Section 1217A, liability of the city in certain actions. Feels've got a co-reason count for. We met an executive session about this. This is to update our code to in light of the recent court decision regarding prior red notice. So 14 is just for introduction. 15 is just a vote to direct the public hearing. Brilliant. So moving on to item number 15, you may have a motion in the second to set up the public hearing. I see us in the way and in stern. All in favor say aye. Any opposed? I have been advised. We have one item for executive session related to pending litigation. Seeing nothing else in the agenda, may have a motion in the second to break two executive session, please. Peter's and Lopez, all the favorites say aye. All right. Thank you so much. We've asked that you, that you need, because you don't have to be here. For these accession ones. Oh. session please. Peter's and Lopez, all the favors say aye. All right. Thank you so much. We'd ask that you, that you need, because you don't have to be here. For the exact session. Excuse me. I need a clarification. Oh, the sponsorship for the good Sandy Kendrick. We had a motion in a second. I don't remember who moved. Okay. So you want it? Which two to eight. The consist agenda. May. I know we did it. I just don't remember who did it. I want to reach out to the students. Do you want to go back to the camera? I'll take care of that. Go ahead. Okay, so motion in a second to adopt items two to your eight for the consent agenda. In the motion in a second. K and Stern moving and seconding all the favorites say I, I and he opposed. We're good. I don't know if that's like, I think it would be a camera. We have it on camera. I know it's like you run it back. you Thank you.