Let's start the meeting with the pledge of allegiance. Please join me. Ready to begin. Thank you. Okay, maybe we have a roll call please. Council Member Viesignor. Here. Mayor Perotem-Gurola. Here. Mayor Berge. Here. Council Member Austin. Here. Council Member Mendez. Here. Council Member Austin. Here. Council Member Mendez. Here. Okay. I will entertain a motion to approve the agenda. I move to approve the agenda. Second. I have a motion and a second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Hearing none, the agenda is approved. Okay. Now we go out down to item number five, our public comments. And I do have, let's see, two public comments. Presentation. Presentation. Mayor. Oh, I'm sorry. Presentation. Presentation. Thank you, very much. We're going to do presentation first. So let me introduce, we have guests this evening from Momentum Work Inc. and it's Danielle Cicobia and Peter Coppley. Coppley or Coppley? Coppley. Okay, so I'll turn it over to you. Thank you. Hi everyone, we're with Momentum Work Inc and what we do is we empower people with disabilities through employment support. So we're going to give a presentation on the power of employing people with disabilities and some ways that we can support them through their employment endeavors. Yeah. But yeah, I think we're doing so ourselves then. We're all so sexy. I'm actually a bigger chief of the universe. Well, we want to thank everybody in the City Council and thank you to the Mayor, City Staff for inviting us here. So, October is National Disability Employment Awareness Month, which has existed in some form since about 1945. So we're here to just honor that and introduce our organization. We've been in the community since 1968, originally starting as the workshop organized for rehabilitation by the Qwanis. And that's what work is. And we've taken on a few forms. But Santa Paula Fillmore, Ventura County, is kind of a new area for us, so we're excited to be down in this area and expanding our services to people who can be served. So hiring people with disabilities creates a more inclusive workplace, allows for multiple perspectives, creates an atmosphere of goodwill, all of this attracts desirable talent pools, improves customer satisfaction and builds loyalty. So employees with disabilities tend to stay in positions actually statistically longer than people without disabilities. And according to a previous US Chamber of Commerce studies, workers with disabilities had an 80% lower turnover rate than those without. Do you want to read the next? 92% of Americans look more favorably on businesses that hire people with disabilities than those that do not and 80% said they would prefer to give their business to companies that hire people with disabilities. Also businesses that hire people with disabilities? Also businesses that hire individuals with disabilities are eligible for a work opportunity tax credit. And just to be clear, we work with people mostly diagnosed with developmental disabilities and this can include people on the autism spectrum, it can be down syndrome, it can be other types of intellectual disabilities, but we work with many disabilities, autism tends to be the big one that we have. So Peter has some stats. Yeah. This graph here, as this graph indicates, this AST stands for Autism Spectrum Disorder, and this is one population that we serve. It's just one instance of neurodiversity, as we say, that has its own unique attributes that when embraced can really help the company. So for example, there's been a lot of work in Australia, but also JP Morgan Chase. And the scenarios that are described here at the top here, you have 36 months versus 6 months basically, and the ASD team ramped up in 6 months. After 3 to 6 months working in one area of the bank, autistic workers were doing the work of people who took 3 years to ramp up. That second set of bars there, in early 2018, a major Oscar really didn't comment. Their autism at work program, their initial cohort of nine trainings were proficient. Four months earlier than expected, returning 12 months of value in five months. That's your 12 versus five there. That third bar, a team in another government department were provided with a significant backlog of firewall security that launched the backlog was assessed as likely to take 18 months to clear, however the new team were able to clear it in four months. Again, the point just being that the particular attributes of the particular population, autism spectrum disorder, length itself to ramping up more quickly in that context, becoming productive more quickly, and it's just an attribute that the workplace embraces to their benefit. I have one more slide. And this slide, oh, it's gone. Okay. We'll move on then. We'll have the slide. What? I can just move on. Okay. Well, according to where do our candidates come from, nonprofit vocational rehabilitation vendors like Momentum Work get their referrals from California's Department of Rehabilitation. All of our participants are vetted and ready to work. They either have prior job experience and we're going to do our best to match their skills set and their interest to the job that they want to pursue. We do have people like anyone whether having a disability or not who are barely entering the workforce and we still try to tailor our services to help them succeed and just helping them through the process, talking to employers, discussing reasonable accommodations and just educating the community so that it's a little easier for them to integrate into the workforce. So we let our candidates lead the way. We provide interview skill building as Danielle mentioned, resume support, helping with leads and advocating on behalf of the candidates. So we work very hard to find the right fit for people that we're supporting. We're career goals, interests, and skill sets meet. And we have a number of different tools that we can use to help segway candidates into direct higher employment and bridge some skills gaps. One of them being the paid internship program, it opens a world of creative, customized employment opportunities. It is available to individuals served by California's regional centers, for example, in this area, the Tri-Counties Regional Center, not far from here. It allows for 1,040 hours of labor with no overhead costs, vendors serve as employers of record and take care of the I-9s, the W-4s, etc. I want to go back to that program. It's very cool because you can, it's basically free work for the employer, but we will pay them, but you're helping someone gain job experience. You can kind of give your employee a trial run before you decide to hire them, but it's a very cool Program that we have and a lot of our participants really enjoy it and the flexibility of getting to ease into the workforce Yeah, we've found some pretty creative opportunities with the paid internship program. We've had people work for baseball teams We've had people work for architecture firms Basically anything that you can think of where either there's a skills gap or somebody is trying to match that qualification and this supports them in leading to that or if they're trying to really aspire to kind of a lofty career goal, this is a great tool for that. So, that's a good phrase. Okay. Adult student work experience, very similar to the paid internship. However, it is a shorter amount of hours. This really helps someone try a few different job sites to kind of gauge their skills, what their, how many hours maybe they're able to tolerate within a workspace. And then we can work with individuals as young as 16 years old and that would be considered student work experience. But again, very similar. We will pay them, but hopefully the employer will give them the space to take on this employment. So if you know any employers who are hiring or could just use some extra help, it is of no cost to them and just let us know. We will have our contact information at the end. And then the last one is paid situational assessments. So we have another tool open to participants served by the Department of Rehabilitation where people can go and assess whether they're ready to take on a certain job and help build skills. Again, this is at no cost to the participating business. And it's a great way to support somebody's career goals. All right. Job coaching. So job coaching is one of the services that we provide. And this can actually be considered a reasonable accommodation for someone with a disability. What a job coach is is an extra person to either go with them to the job, they can meet with them outside the job, basically helping them make sure they're learning things correctly, applying corrections, you might have a participant who thinks they're doing great, but maybe they could be fixing something over here and that that's what the job coaches for. Or, again, we work with a lot of people on the spectrum where they might be amazing workers, but maybe the social skills are a little lacking, and that's another place that we can help them communicate professionally to their team, to their higher ups, help them advocate, and we understand that not all job locations are suitable for an extra person so we can provide off-site job coaching as well just another way to tailor it to the employer to the employee and help them succeed in their job. So yeah basically a form of quality assurance as well for businesses that are willing to take on risks and hiring people from the disability population. Again, it's at no cost to the business that participates and it can make a huge, huge difference. We've had some coaches who've been with the participants for decades and have been the lifeline for them maintaining employment. But then we also have situations where someone will come in, coach the worker until they've got the job down and then kind of ease back when they require less support. That basically concludes just an overview of our services. If anybody, I don't know if we want to open any questions, but it's great to meet everybody and appreciate your time. Thank you so much. I think we do probably have a couple of questions I see. Yeah. I can't remember. Go roll over. Question. First off, thank you for presenting. I noticed you did mention the Tri-Count on these regional centers at an example of a partnership you do have, or is that you guys base out of there? Can you clarify that? We have referrals from Tri-Counties as well as the Department of Rehabilitation. Okay, and so basically you have the ability to, if somebody were to walk in, let's say Tri-Counties Regional Center, they could walk in and get connected. Yeah, but your program and then on their way to potentially even working there or somewhere else. Yeah so the Tri-Counties Regional Center is one of our funding sources in addition to Department of Rehabilitation. Usually someone will come in from the DOR and then they also happen to be served by the regional center but there's also situations in which the Regional Center has a candidate who wants to set up a PIP but they need a paid internship program but they need an employer of record they reach out to us and we can help make back connection so. Anyone else? Yes I do thank you Mayor thank you for your presentation it was really great. Over the age range is there there a minimum? Is there a maximum? There's no maximum Typically for just standard employment services. It's 18 on up, but we also have the student work experience Which is a DOR program and that's as young as 16 Okay, great and sorry to follow up question two Regarding like supportive services for being at that job on that job site If someone wanted to and they were kind of, well, went through the training, do they have transportation that will get in there, bring them back? You know, what barriers could maybe someone who could possibly qualify for this encounter, and then what kind of, how are we kind of helping to move those barriers? Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. Transportation is by far one of the biggest barriers we've seen across the board. So our organization operates throughout the tri-counties. We're up and slow all the way down to 1,000 oaks. And there's organizations like EasyLift, but they don't know as have transportation available. And it's something where you have to book weeks and advance and get tickets basically to have them transport you to your job regularly. And then the bus system, of course, as we all know, can take an hour and a half, even across Santa Barbara to get to a job so that becomes a massive barrier. We do provide transportation during the job search. We don't want somebody to miss out on a job interview because they didn't have a ride. But we do ask that they provide transportation once they've been hired because it's part of independence. And that's what we're really trying to instill in the population we serve as maximizing independence. We do also take that into consideration when doing their job search. If someone has absolutely no way to get across town, we're probably going to keep their jobs pretty close to where they live. We will try to tailor it to their abilities and the abilities of their support system as well. Yeah, and also, you know, just on the topic of removing barriers. Just raising awareness about job coaching is something that we're constantly trying to do because the ADA has been in place since 1990, people are more familiar with kind of the physical provisions. But for people that have quote unquote invisible disabilities where they're not necessarily present, sometimes we've gotten questions or pushed back from businesses where we come in. And we say this person needs a job coach with them. And there's questions. And we just want to raise awareness that it's to facilitate their independence and their growth and their there to support that person. They're not there to do the work for the person. So that's something we're always trying to kind of educate the public on. Definitely. Yeah. And just one comment I just wanted to add about the transportation was now that you're working more coming down to Ventura County is to partner with VCTC. So it's just going to suggest that Kerry has more information about that. There's some great transportation programs, right? What I'd love to see is have you come into a presentation at one of our Ventura County Transportation Commission meetings. Yeah, we would love that. Yeah, I'll reach out to you and give you that information and we'll set that up. So that would be great. And we have so many different types of transportation buses and valorites and all over the county which are fantastic that all interact with surrounding counties as well. So that's great. Anyone else? We have a question. All right, thank you so very much. Oh, I think a question. All right. Thank you so very much. Oh, I think one question. One question, sorry. Is it available to the blue outside of California or outside of the Stewart County? Outside of Inter. Yeah, outside of Inter, County, definitely. We do have some placements where somebody will get a job that's remote that's in other areas within California. Occasionally, sometimes they'll get a job in other states or something if it is remote, but then there's labor laws involved. It's not always so easy, but we can't. That would be more off-site coaching, too, if that person did need coaching. But we do have that capability to help somebody get a job wherever they want. We've had people who are supporting in Santa Barbara, but they want a job in L.A. We can't go down there and support them, but we can help them apply and go through that process. Thank you. Thank you. If you have any cards or anything you might want to leave them because I would assume there's probably other people in the audience that would have questions for you as well. So that'd be great. Well thank you so much everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You leave. Yeah. Thank you. All right. So now we move on to our public comments. And as I was saying earlier, we do have several, our two, just two public comments and all the other comments that I have for the evening pertain to item number 9a. So right now I'm going to address the, our two public comments and these, this is a time in which our community can speak on items that are not on agenda but are under the purview of council. So I'm going to first call Gary Cushine. Mayor Brokey and council members, my name is Gary Cushing. I'm here tonight to request that the City Council do a resolution at its next meeting to name November as Veterans and Active Military Month. I believe it's fitting for the city to dedicate not just one day, November 11th. Veterans Day, but to honor veterans and active duty military the entire month of November. Hopefully you'll agree with me to honor these men and women that are given and are giving today to keep us safe. Thank you. And then Ernie Vegas will give these the highlights of what goes on here on Veterans Day. Thank you. Great. Thank you, Gary. Ernie, please. Good evening, Mayor and City council members and staff. My name is Ernie Villegas and I am a trustee with the Philmore Pyrrhus Veterans Memorial District. I'm also a veteran and I belong with a couple of other organizations, American Veterans United and also with the Los Vets of Philmore and Pyrrhu. We also work very closely with our Veterans of Foreign War of VFW and we have some of the members here if you please stand up and be recognized. I affectionately called them our senior delinquents. So anyways, I just want to make a couple real quick items here. It's important for our community to obviously thank and recognize our veterans. Not only our veterans, but our active duty people that are out there protecting us. And I think that on November 11th, having the veterans day is just wonderful. We have a wonderful ceremony, one of the best ceremonies in the county where we have a parade of our vets. And then we have a lunch in for them, they get to eat for free. And then we have a nice ceremony with all the pomp and circumstance, and it's a wonderful opportunity. Well, this year we're growing. The Vets of Fillmore and Pyrrue started off by John Mignoso a few years ago with about 13, 14 Vets. They wanted to get together so they could socialize and share some of their common angst and some of the things that they like to see veteran services and really have a fellowship. That has now grown over the last couple of years to 75 people. And today we've had a luncheon, which we'd have once a month with our vets. And there was over 30 of our vets there. So it's just growing. And it's members from Pyroid. It's also a lot of our members here from Fillmore. On one personal note, I lost my brother today. He was a veteran from Vietnam, veteran. He had been battling pancreatic cancer for over 12 years. And he fought the good fight. I called him my hero, my warrior. And I can't think of a better fitting tribute is to have us recognize our veterans who have given their all. And I have us recognize them over over this next month. With me, I have some events that are going on. I'd like to share with you very quickly. There we go. In the upcoming events on November 2, the vets of Pyru and Philmore are going to have a Veterans Dinner Dance. And it's going to be at the Pyrrhus Petroleum Club, and this is where we all bring our spouses and get together. We've had that successful. We've had 70-some people attend. So we're going to start that off on November 2. On the 8th, the Pyrrhus Petroleum Club is going to have their monthly Veterans Luncheon for Vets, they get D for free. But on the 9th, this is something different. We're gonna have a Veterans Day concert in the park right here. And we're gonna celebrate our veterans on that particular Saturday. And then on Sunday, November, on Monday, November 11th, we'll have our Veterans Day parade in ceremony. It starts off at 10 o'clock with a parade. And then afterwards, we'll go to the middle school and then have the lunch in for our vets and then the ceremony. So then on December 10th we have a Christmas toy drive where all the vets will bring gifts, toys for the kids and we'll give them to our fire department. So this is something that we've been doing over this last couple of years and we're growing and we love to have the city and the community be part of this and I can't think of a better way to send my brother away by having a national or at least a community monthly tribute to our vets and our active members. So once again I want to thank you. I hope that you can consider this and on behalf of our vets, thank active members. So once again I want to thank you. I hope that you can consider this and on behalf of our vets thank you for everything you do. Thank you Ernie. Thank you. All right thank you. I call the veterans that are here. Appreciate that. And let's move on now to the item number seven. City Council reports, recommendations and comments. And I'll turn it over to council. Anyone have? Mayor, I do just to follow up on Mr. Cushing and for Ernie's recommendation I know it is at the mayor's discretion, but absolutely support Navy November of Veterans Month. I want to say that. That's a great idea. Anyone else? No. All right. That's it. We move on then to consent calendar. Can I get a motion to approve the consent calendar? I move to approve the consent calendar. Second. Motion in a second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Okay. Item number nine, new business. So we have several speaker request cards on this. But what we're going to do first is we're going to turn over to staff. And then I will start calling up public speakers. For anyone who wants to speak on item 9a, you need to fill out one of these forms and give them to our city clerk here. So right now though, let's go ahead and turn it over to staff. Thank you, Mayor. Tonight's staff recommends that the City Council discuss AB 1955 and provide feedback and direction on the following items. One direct staff to prepare resolution in support of AB 1955, direct staff to prepare a resolution in opposition to AB 1955. Do not do anything or provide other direction to staff. Travis item is on the agenda per the City Council's request after receiving comments from the public. We are in AB 1955 which is called the Support Academic Futures and Educators for today's Youth Act or Safety Act. Beside a law by Governor Newsom in July of 2024, law allows educators at public school's discretion in foreign parents of a child's gender identity, gender expression, or sexual orientation, and doing so to the law bar as the closure of such information from being a requirement. So I also would provide information for parents and educational personnel at public schools, by acceptance and the creation of safe spaces for LGBTQ plus students. But there's no physical impact, it does make goals of community engagement and communication. And that's all. Other report, it's Tim, do you want to add anything? Thank you. Okay, then let's go ahead and go to our public speakers. And I do have several. So we usually allow three minutes, but because we have so many, we don't want to be here to a midnight, so we're going to cut it down to two minutes per speaker if that's okay. And we'll start by calling up Luan Brock. Good evening, Council. Thank you. I planned on three minutes, so I'll do my best. Complace and see kills. It's part of what has brought this nation to the level of destruction we see on a daily basis. We have allowed elected officials to make decisions without stakeholder involvement. We complain, make phone calls, give speeches, all in the hopes that we can be heard. AB 1955 is tonight's topic and the broad ramifications of doing nothing, just deferring to the Almighty California legislature and a governor that passes laws without input from the populace is wrong on so many levels. Did anyone in this room or whomever may be listening tonight, tonight's meeting ever imagine that your government would say that truths about your child at school can legally be withheld from you if your minor child so desires? Where does this type of legislation lead? Sorry, parent, but your child does not want to come to school nor is he interested in performing, but we can't tell you that. Sorry, parent, we will not be allowed to share your child's progress or deficiencies with you because you do not provide adequately safe space for your child. Will a parent lose the right to view a child's phone if the minor says not to share the information? This is a dangerously slippery slope. After 30 years in public education where I witness staff struggling to build bridges with parents, in an effort to educate and support not only academic learning but also societal learning. I believe this law places staff in a compromising position and creates an unhealthy precedence. I'm going to share with you a real-life story and what I ask you to think about is what role does secrecy play? Keep in mind that children already practice at a level of secrecy as they mature and for parents attempting to raise their children with their own family. That's the end of two minutes. I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. It goes by quickly. I know. I'm sorry. Okay. Our next speaker, Dom Maron. Thank you, Council. I know you're going to be hearing from a lot of people. I'm kind of should have just conceded my time to Lewand because I have a lot of the same things to say. My question is, where does it end? Yes, there are bad parents out there. There's a lot of good parents out there. So let's say bad grades come in and one parent chooses to beat their child over bad grades. But 99% of the parents decide we're gonna talk about it and work on these grades. So now do all the parents, this is the slow blue end is talking about. Now we all lose the right to know about our kids grades because a couple bad parents are gonna beat their kids. I'm not condoning beating kids at all, that's not the, what I'm trying to get to. I'm just stating that parents are going to beat their kids. I'm not condoning beating kids at all. That's not what I'm trying to get to. I'm just stating that parents are in charge of their kids were the ones that raised them. We pay for them. We feed them. They are part of us. And as a society, at some point, we all have to stand up as parents and protect parents rights. That's what child services is for. If you've got a child that's had a bad experience at home, and they come to school, they report it to somebody. They're mandated to call child services and pull that child out and deal with that. So why are we punishing all the parents for the few bad apple parents? So I'm thankful you guys put this on the agenda. I'm hoping that as a city we can stand together for parents, rights for family rights for our kids. Thank you guys. Thank you. Okay, next we have John Karnika followed by Jasmine Jerome. Good evening, Council. Excuse me, my throat. So I just like to note that a copy of the law was included in the packet. And if you actually read the law, the law is pretty clear about what it does and does not cover. It actually doesn't take away any parent rights. What it does is it keeps agencies, government agencies from mandating whether or not school staff has to out a kid. That's what it does. It doesn't take away, a staff member can still choose to disclose that if they want to. But all the law does is say, hey, government, you can't mandate the school staff to disclose their gender identity or their sexual proclivities. That's basically what the law says. Another point is that the Fillmore City staff noted that the city, the city of Fillmore has no control over the school district. So again, I ask, why are we discussing this at the city council? Why are we, this is a complete waste of time. We have, you know, the number one thing that citizens of Thelmore want, is they want the city to focus on public safety. They want them to focus on parks and recreation. They want the city to focus on the streets that have tremendous potholes. Those are the things that matter and they have control over. So please, City Council, I urge you, focus on the things that you have control over and please move on. This is nothing to do with city business. Thank you. Jasmine Doran, followed by Sean Terrace. And if I'm calling you as like you're on the next at bat, go ahead and stand in the back of the behind the first speaker so we can expedite things a little bit So Sean terror Terrace Okay, you're good. Thank you. Thank you My name is Jasmine Duron and I'm the advocacy and community impact coordinator for autism society of Ventura County and Representing ASBC's advocacy committee. We're here today to express our deep concern about agenda item 9A discussion on AB 1955. Our committee was taken aback when we came across this topic on council agenda for many reason. One being that this topic falls outside the jurisdiction of the city council. City councils do not oversee educational policy or state legislation. Additionally, Fillmore City Council. City Councils do not oversee educational policy or state legislation. Additionally, Fillmore City Council is responsible for creating a livable community for all residents of Fillmore. ASVC is worried that bringing this discussion to city platform not only creates confusion and fear but also fosters unnecessary division within the community. ASVC has always been an advocate for the rights of inclusion and acceptance for all individuals, including the LGBTQ plus community. We stand firmly with our allies, celebrate diversity and believe in respecting and honoring people's differences where they intersect with autism and where they are separate. LGBTQ plus youth are vulnerable, according to the Trevor Project, 45% of LGBTQ plus youth across the country seriously consider suicide in the past year. Further, the data shows that LGBTQ plus friendly communities see lower rates of suicide attempts within this population. The city of Fillmore is trusting you through their vote of confidence to make decisions that protect our youth. This agenda item alienates families and will undoubtedly make some feel unwelcome, unsupported and unsafe. We believe the city council's time and resources are best spent addressing issues that are within its mandate such as community safety and economic growth. Issues that can positively impact Fillers' residents' day-to-day lives. We respectfully request that the Council reconspitter spending your time on this divisive topic, we are always open to partnering with the City of Filmor on initiatives that promote the well-being of all filmer residents, including individuals with developmental disabilities and the LGBTQ plus community. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Followed by Steve Lutz, your own deck. It didn't go start to zero? It started at seven. Okay, I have to ask my assistant to my right here to help me with this. Since you cut it by a minute, seven seconds. There we go. Yeah, counts. Seven seconds counts. Okay, all right. Thank you. So Mr. Rowlands and Ms. Israel, you are the author of the City Council agenda memo. And what you wrote in here is a lie. Because in fact, what AB 1955 does is the opposite of what you wrote. It mandates that educators are not LGBTQ students without their consent. But don't believe me, and like the other gentleman said, let's read the attachment to the agenda, which is the bill itself that was signed into law. So the fourth paragraph under the Legislative Council's digest reads, this bill would prohibit school from an acting or enforcing any policy rule or regulation that requires an employee to disclose any information related to a pupil's sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression, to any other person without the pupil's consent. Let's go to section two of the bill. Go to paragraph F. Policies that require outing pupils without their consent, violate pupils' rights to privacy and self-determination. Paragraph G, pupils have a constitutional right to privacy when it comes to sensitive information about them, and courts have affirmed that young people have a right to keep personal information private. And paragraph H, laws and policies that target pupils on the basis of sexual orientation are prohibited under both state and federal laws. What is wrong with you people? Considering something that would intentionally hurt our children. Thank you. Thank you. Sean Chair, Steve, let's followed by Diane Sutton. Thank you. Thank you. Sean Chair, Steve, let's follow by Diane Sutton. Hi, a lot of mayor City Council, a lot of what I was going to say was just addressed to you. So in my case, I'm just going to ask you that you draft a resolution in support of AB 1955. This is about our children. It's not about parental rights. It's about children's privacy and the right to privacy. They have that as outlined in the bill as affirmed by courts. If you are a parent who fears the contents of this bill, then you are not providing a safe space for your child and our child children need a safe space. Thank you, Mata. Thank you. Diane Sutton, followed by Maria Rollis. I recommend that the City Council strongly discourage AB 1955, which is the camel's nose under the tent. People don't recognize that maybe. In our film more schools, the state of California is overreaching to the private lives of families, is to remove parents' authority in raising their children. This is another tyrannical overreach. School spending six to eight hours a day in a child's life will have the discretion to determine a child's path to gender alteration. How is this even to work? Does a child indicate to transition to a school employee or counselor and then they help the minor to obtain hormone blockers to start the process? If the parents are taken out of the equation who pays for this. Assemblyman Scott Weiner AB 1432 proposes for insurance companies to pay for transitions along with abortions. Who pays for those premiums? No wonder our insurance companies are leaving the state. Where is the minor house? To are these supporters of this agenda going to take these minors under their wing? Like the pro undocumented immigration people that sound sympathetic and almost teary in public, but would be unwilling to take on that responsibility. Is the state going to remove the child minor and make them a word of the state? Have you supporters of AB 1955 thought this through? These questions are from a practical perspective. How is this to play out? Do you supporters think the state of California really cares about your children when the profound and grim outcome is to maim and castrate our children? Why would anyone support this horrible tyrannical government? Have you noticed that what is happening in Sacramento? Scott Weiner and Evan Lowe, two gay assembly men, creating ridiculous almost humorous bills as proposition three, where you can marry anyone or anything, even yourself. Scott Weiner SB 58 decriminalizing the use of mine, all three drugs. Restructing, am I done? Yes, I'm sorry. Thank you. I have two sentences. No? Okay. Good. Okay, Maria Robles, followed by Carol Lay, I believe. I'm going to go to the next slide. Okay, Maria Robles, followed by Carol Lay, I believe. L.A. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. no power about this, since it's not a city issue, it's a former school board issue because of part of education. But it's disappointing to see that those who are supposed to be helping our community are the ones that are almost tearing our two, our different communities apart because this doesn't take away the right of the parent. The student is allowed a right to privacy. The bill says it. It's, I don't get why you guys think it's important to take this off. They should give the children the opportunity to choose when their sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression should be exposed beside themselves. I understand why some parents may want to know what their children's sexual identification or gender identity is, but there's a reason why these kids or children are telling you that if they don't feel like you're safe at home, they're not going to open up to you. They should feel safe at their school, which I don't get what's the problem here. But is it really necessary for these parents to know everything about their child? Yes, they live at home with them, provide them with a safe place. You knew what you were getting yourself into when you became a parent. I don't get it. Opposing AB 1955 will just make the students not trust the school in which they go to. I would like you, City Council members, to think about their child and how they represent themselves. For me, this just looks like something for everybody to look up to you, the City Council voting in November. This just seems like a political move. Because if you see that an article by the Hill, it states 55% said that they left their house due to mistreatment or fear of mistreatment over the LGBTQ identity. This shows that there could be serious consequences for these teams. I'm sorry your time is up. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Carol, Lays, Lois, I'm sorry, and followed by Rhonda Taylor. So do we have one speaker? Yeah, just me. And a lot of support. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So tonight I'm going to be reading on something that fellow youth at one step asked me to say and it started. You guys wanted to change the policy at the schools but you guys don't understand how it affects the LGBT key youth in many ways like some kids grow up with supportive parents and most of the times some don't and some parents are really strict and in the now about it and they take it far far to a point where they punish in many ways such as sending them to camps where they change but in, they're just mentally abusing them or other disciplinary action. The parents do what the parents do is physically hurting them and traumatizing the kid. And in some cases, they kick them out and some become homeless. This mainly happens because they don't believe in the LGBTQ plus community. And some kids commit suicide because of those reasons. And another thing is that it's none of the staff's business to tell parents about a private conversation either between kids or a staff and a kid. If the kid has a confidence to tell a staff about how they feel or how they want to share their sexuality or such gender, then they should keep it confidential and keep it to themselves. I'd like to just add that for a city council, I feel some of you guys aren't really doing your job. I've lived here my whole life and there's, I don't know, on the streets where like the thing is coming off, my sister has cars. She falls and nothing has been done. It's been like a whole decade and you guys continue to just stay there. You guys don't even have, you guys are being involved in school issues and you guys are supposed to be a city council. Thank you. Okay, we have. Ronda Taylor followed by. Uh, Ronnie Miranda. Ronnie Miranda. Good evening. My name is Ronda Taylor. I'm a feel more resident. I'd like to speak in opposition to AP 1955. And I'm going to read the 14th amendment due process clause protects parental rights by requiring states to provide certain procedural protections. The Supreme Court has held that the due process clause protects the fundamental right of parents, parents, to make decisions about their child's care, custody, and control. I would like to read a summary of two Supreme Court cases. The first one is Parmin, Parmin versus JR442, US 584. The law is concept of the family rest on a presumption that parents possess what a child lacks in maturity, experience, and capacity for judgment required for making life's difficult decisions. More important historically, it has been recognized that natural bonds of affection lead parents to act in the best interest of their children. The status notion that governmental powers should supersede parental authority in all cases, because some parents abuse and neglect children is repugnant to American tradition. Simply because the decision of a parent is not agreeable to a child or because it involves risk does not automatically transfer the power to make that decision from the parents to some agency or officer of the state. The second is Truxill versus Granville, a 30 US 57. The liberty interest at issue in this case, the interests of parents in the care custody and control of their children is perhaps the oldest of the fundamental liberty interest recognized by this court. In light of this extensive president, it cannot now be data that the due process clause of the 14th minute protects the fundamental right of parents to make decisions concerning the care custody and control of their children. The problem here is not that the Washington, the problem here is not that the Washington Superior Court intervened, but that when it did so, it gave no special weight at all to Grinville's determination. Turn the time is up. Yes, ma'am, I'm sorry, thank you. Okay, we have Roni or is it Roni or Roni? Roni. Miranda followed by... Oh, Annette Sula. Thank you. Well, good evening. I would like to... to echo some of the sentiments I have heard to protect the kids and their autonomy for their bodies and who they are as they develop into whole people without risk of being exposure. I feel that this is a political football that's been pulled out to be played with in a public forum for someone's political campaign. And I wanna pull that out and show it to everyone and expose them and out them and see how it feels, Mr. Austin, that this political football is going to be on your poster for your campaign. I know you're speaking to a certain demographic of people that have a line of thinking. And they want to come out here and scream to the sky about how the state and the government and newsome and everyone's doing them wrong and taking away the parental rights. That has nothing to do with you. This is so far outside of your lane That it's not productive What you're doing is you're taking a position at the detriment of our youth and you should be ashamed Okay moving on to, let's see, a net Sula, followed by a net Sula. Why do I have you down twice? Oh, I see why. I gotcha. So you're going to come back. Can I go back? You can come back. Interrupt real quick. I just want to remind the public that we appreciate you all being here to speak, but you're to speak to the public, to the council as a body. You're not to single out any council member and attack any council member. So thank you for giving that in mind. Okay. So what do I do? I had two different things. No, you'll just address nine. Okay. This one. Okay. All right. So, in our Constitution in the preamble that talks about our posterity. And our posterity, the definition of that is all future generations of people. It's used in the preamble of the Constitution. I'm very concerned about our posterity because a lot of the things we're talking about and the things that are being addressed are not going to cause us to have a posterity because, for instance, transgender people cannot reproduce. So we've got all these young people that are being told that they can be, that they can be chance transgendered. I've lost two people on this issue already because they believe the lies, they went with it, and then they committed suicide. Because they found out they could not transgender. You cannot, there is no physical way, you can become anything other, you're one simple of blood says, whether you're a male or female. That was, and you are, each individual is a gift of God and created in God's image, and you were assigned that at birth. And I don't know, there is no way to do anything with tell the truth. There are so many transgender people that are trying to untrans themselves now, but they've already been mutilated and can't become functioning human, totally functioning human beings anymore. So we're talking about our children and we're talking about them going into school, toiling somebody, they want to transgender. And the teachers saying that they have the right not to tell their parents. This is absolutely against everything that we believe in the Constitution and all the rights that we are given as free people and parents. And I think that what I've heard tonight has been very mean-spirited, very, it's just, wow, you know, parents. Annette, I'm sorry your time is up. Thank you. Thanks. Okay. Okay. Okay, our next speaker is Erin Lolli. Sorry, I didn't hear the line up before him. Followed by E Allison Smith. Just wait for this to zero out, please. Thank you. I am currently in my 16th year as a public educator. I have taught all four years of high school and I'm currently in my eighth year as a community college health and kinesiology professor at the community college level. So I've had the amazing opportunity to educate and impact thousands of young people from all different walks of life. This is my wheelhouse. I've been the teacher, coach, and advisor that queer students have come out to. Many of them were not out to their parents. I've heard their reasons through tears, screams, tremors, and panic attacks. Some needed to be hospitalized. Their health and safety is my priority as an educator, period, not yours. Just last year I had two students who were out to their friends around campus, but not their families because they knew how homophobic and or transphobic their families were. They knew they wouldn't be emotionally, psychologically or physically safe if they opened up about their queerness and where there are authentic selves. AB 1955 will save children's lives. It has nothing to do with taking away rights of parents. It's about protecting and supporting children. Just today the New York Times, again, published an article about the alarming statistics related to depression, anxiety, bullying, self-esteem, and suicide for transgender and gender non-conforming young people. If a parent is so concerned with their child sexuality or gender, then they should make sure their home is a safe place for that child. Then they don't have to worry about their child's teachers continuing to do their job. Please do what's right and follow the California law. Filmores educators and students deserve the safety that AB 1955 provides them. This is not your jurisdiction. Time seven. Thank you. And may I please ask that you remove the sign that's targeting Mark Austin, please. Justice of the City Attorney indicated, that's fine. but we're not going to target anybody on council. Thank you. Okay, let me catch up again. And your Aaron, are you E. Ellison Smith? I'm E. Ellison Smith. I go by my middle name. You know how parents always say, you know, Elizabeth Ellison Smith? That's not good. I'm telling you to demonstrate you. I think, hi, my name is E. Ellison Smith, and I didn't have any prepared anything to say, unfortunately. I just found out about this agenda. I'm just like literally, you know, probably about an hour or two ago. And the reason I'm coming up here is because I've worked with LGBTQ youth and also in areas of trying to create non-bullying areas and safe schools, with modeled after the safe schools projects at K through 12, and actually have done those through K through 12 kind of curriculum, but also through at a higher education in college education programs. And this is before there were anything such as gay straight alliances and what have you way back in the day, it looks like the thing called project 10 in LAUSD and also students honestly opening up together would gather students who were LGBTIQ identified and would actually have them go out and talk to different people to try to address the safety issues that were in the schools because kids who were LGBTQ or who were identified or even people who were suspected of being LGBTQ kids were the ones who were the ones who were targeted the most for bullying harassment and actually predatory behavior from other students to where their physical safety was like at risk. Many of them were beaten on a regular basis, not only at schools but also in their homes and many of the times the children and the kids basically were thrown out of their homes or actually nearly killed by the family members who when they found out about what, you know, who, you know, what they, what they're talking about. So we basically would like to just have you not. Thank you. Go into this 1955 and accept it. Thank you. Go into this 1955 and accept it. Thank you. Okay. Next we have Stephen Ackler. Is that correct? Followed by... I think that's our last speaker on this agenda item. Yes. Bear with me one second. Okay. Hello, Council. What is LGBTQ youth to make of this tonight in this city and across this county? What are they to make about y'all stripping the resources that this city once supported? What are they to make of you stripping and voting to strip healthcare resources just a few years ago? What are they to make of you voting against clean jobs just within this year? What are they to make of that? This county where Larry King and LaTisha King and South Oxnard was shot and killed, the worst hate crimes since Matthew Shepard. Right here in our schools in Ventura County, what are we to make of this? Well you saw it earlier, students crying and some of the council members who mocked those students multiple times in previous council meetings. Again, mock a speaker. Again, it's being brought up just in time for an election. Why is that? We know nationwide. It's a hot button topic. You go against the marginalized. You couldn't go against gay people, gay men like myself because now so many people know gay individuals. So you go after trans students. You use it for political gains in your race when candidates are desperate to hold on to power. In this case, it's possible it's a council member who is so scared of a West Point grad running against him. One that defeated him just 24 years ago to protect our children for the 16 years at West Point grad served on the school board. So I asked the rest of the council majority, is this for political gain? Because that's what the county thinks. That's what the organization thinks, and more importantly, that's what your youth thinks. Care about their lives. I want to hear all of you say we care about trans students in this city because I haven't heard it in six years. I've only seen results to the contrary. So please, to the council majority especially, protect our youth, vote or do no action on this item. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Just a quick question. And that, Sula, you don't have an agenda item on this other speaking. Is this still also? Okay. Different topic, but still. Yeah. It was more on the one that I already talked about the posterity. We have, you know, we as a nation are our zero minus population. And we know that our forefathers in the Constitution talked about the importance of our posterity. We have to do something differently to change. People are- Can I interrupt you a quick? What, yes. Are you changing topics? Is this for another agenda item? I'm not giving you a three minute. It was supposed to be in public comments. I put it in public comments. Oh, way back at the beginning. Yeah. And somehow they got flipped around. I didn't put it in public office. Oh, way back at the beginning. Yeah. And somehow they got flipped around. I didn't put it under this agenda. So, I don't, they didn't. Yeah, but is it still related to this agenda item? It sounds like it's a little bit, it can be. And let's just, I'm sorry in that. But we don't want to give you an extra three minutes on top, because it really is related to the same item. So what do I need to do? So let's hold off if you want to speak again. That was the next meeting. At the next meeting. At the next meeting. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. So that concludes our public comment session for this item. So now I'm going to have staff to turn it over to, I'm sorry, turn over to Council for questions of staff on this, on the report itself, and then we'll discuss. Any questions from City Manager? And no questions. I would like to point out though that in the staff report, it was very obvious the written that it is important to recognize that the city has no control over the school district regarding this issue. So for anyone who brought that to light or misunderstood that, I'd ask you to go back and reread the packet. It is with great caution that we approach this issue, but also with great understanding that there are lots of opinions out there that have been brought to light to the council many times from very different viewpoints. And that's, in my opinion, why it was brought before us. I also would like to recommend as was presented by the staff that we go neither opposing nor affirming AB 1955, but to recognize that we support Fillmore Unified School District in how they deal with the law as it is written. The law, I believe, is supposed to go into effect January 1st, when I'm mistaken. So it's well on its way. Whether or not any comments that people made, they wish they could have made before, the time has gone and passed. It doesn't mean that things don't change either. And so that's what's important to understand is the last change all the time. But what's most important is for us to realize that January 1st, we expect the law to go into effect. And so I would like to recommend that City staff draft a statement and support a little more unified school district and its board trustees and their responsibility in dealing with the school issues, as well as bringing up this topic at our next ad hoc meeting whenever that is to understand just how we can support parents families families especially who are the basic building block of our society they provide all the resources financially to our schools to our city they are the bedrock of our community. So where we do have jurisdictional lines, families cross all those lines, and that's why this is an important issue for the city to recognize. It's not cut and dry all the time. The city interacts with the school district on so many different things, and it's very important for us to recognize that even though we have specific responsibilities for legal action, we have a greater responsibility to our community to partner with the school district who I support. Unapologetically, I have many different ideas about what the school could do as a parent, a five to do things better, but that's my role as a parent. But in my professional capacity, I have never once seen any issue that the school district did not handle gracefully, that they did not address specifically with film more citizens, film or residents in mind. And so we need to support the school district in doing their job in supporting everyone as they come together to either deal with the ramifications that they see negatively about AB-9 to 55 or the positive ramifications, however they see it. It is not our jurisdiction, but there are other legal challenges already to it. And so in my opinion, as a father of five, as a city council member, and as a graduate, lifelong, I feel more you if I school district, let's support the school district, and let's discuss it with them on how we can help the school district, let's support the school district, and let's discuss it with them. On how we can help the school district, managing families, managing students, as AB 1955 goes into law. Okay. I was going to say, for somebody to come up here and say this is a political issue when this was put on the agenda was proposed for the agenda way before this political season started. I just like to say that. The other issue is that we knew this was a school issue which is why we decided not to go with an ordinance. We decided to go with a resolution which is an opinion of council. Council could have taken an opinion. We were in our lane because the city, there were several people who came forward asking us. We ended up receiving over 500 signatures saying please put it on the agenda, at least discuss it. So we were in our lane. Anything that involves the public is our lane. Like Chris was saying, it's blended so closely together. I do have an opinion on AB 1955. I feel that it essentially erodes parental rights. It acts an incremental step towards separating parents from the child, replacing the parent with the state. It creates division between parents and their children, because it allows teachers to conceal information from the parents, thus destroying the trust and the family unit. So I do believe that AB 55, 1955, is a bad situation. It has. I wasn't even referring anything to do with the LBGT. I'm just talking about parental rights. As a parental right, it destroys parental rights. You guys cannot sit there and deny that. That's what I was after. I have discussed this resolution at least probably six or seven times with the mayor of Huntington Beach. What you all know is the one that pushed for an ordinance for Huntington Beach. I talked to her about our resolution, what we were going to do, what we could do, what we couldn't do, and I knew full well that it was not a school board issue. All along I knew it was not a school, I mean it was not a council issue. But I decided to bring it up here for discussion. That's it. I'm going to just want to say a lot of the same things that Chris said. Council member, go to the circuit. If you're, I want to say if you're a parent who's involved in your child's life, this law is not going to apply to you. You're doing your job. If you're really, really a parent that really cares about your child, and communicates and has open lines of discussion, this law is not going to apply to you, because you're going to know what's going on in their lives. The only parents that are going to have a problem with this are the ones that don't have open lines of communication with them. You guys aren't doing your job because you're not listening to your child. There's a little thing called scope in rule which Council Member Gorilla kind of hinted on. I think we should go with the recommendation that Council Member Gorilla brought up and I agree with the Council Member Gorilla. So that's all I have to say but I said if you're a parent that's involved in your trust life, it's not going to apply to you. Thank you. Christina, if I may topic that's hurtful for so many in our community. I feel like it's been over and over and over again in the last four years I've been on council. This discussion will not compel any change in film or. I want everyone in the audience and those who are watching live or be requiring to understand that whatever action is taken before, for against no action and the recommendation. It will not change policy, motely to any concrete actions. However, I do believe there's an adverse impact that will take place and affect LGBTQ youth and I will come back to that. The truth about AB 1955, please understand that AB 1955 did not pop out of nowhere. And it does not prohibit school to parent communication about this topic. A.B. 1955 is a result of Chino Valley Unified School District. Another school district's policy requiring, again, a blanket policy requiring teachers and school district staff to out LGBTQ youth students against a student's consent. And no matter the potentially dire consequences to that student. And that according to the 14th amendment of the US and California Constitution is a violation of equal protection under the law along with a violation of the civil rights of students. Hence the California Department of Education lawsuit and the resulting injunction. An injunction is a court order that Chino Valley unified must stop implementing this policy. And it is now a permanent injection as of a month ago. Chino Valley Unified cannot do this policy. Because it violates California's equal protection clause and discriminates against transgender and gender nonconforming students, causing them a repairable harm. In seeking the permanent injection, the California Attorney General asserted that Chino Valley Unified School District boards motivation in adopting the policy were to create an armor and a mon- and a mon- and a mocity discrimination and prejudice towards transgender and nonconforming students without any compelling reason to do so. As evidenced by statements made during Chino Valley Unified School Districts hearing on this policy, in discussing the policy before the passage, the Chino Valley Board members of the school board made a number of statements describing students that are transgender and gender not conforming as suffering from a quote, unquote mental illness, or quote unquote perversion, or quote being a threat to the integrity of the nation and the family. And the board president went so far as to state that transgender and gender non-conforming individuals need quote non-confirming parental actions so they could quote unquote get better. Okay? No school district or community needs this policy like this one that they tried to pull off in Chino Valley and other school districts. I actually believe it is my right as a parent to know what's happening in my child's life, how they're feeling within themselves, how they're feeling about and dealing with the world around them, and I know that I can exercise this right every single day. The opportunity presents itself for about seven hours Monday through Friday. An hour in the morning, six hours in the evening, you double that on the weekends. Okay? We parents do not need a school board policy requiring districts to out to tell us anything about our child. I believe though that students and families within themselves, they navigate their best way. In the sensitive nature of expressing one's gender sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression. It's not our place. It's not our place as a municipality, or within a school board to legislate to mandate school district staff and teachers to be big brother over student expression of themselves. What we do need to do is we need to talk and have open lines of communication. We can do, we should do. Blanket policies like the ones that Chino Valley and other school districts tried to do, that AB 1955 thus for prohibits, right? A blanket policy mandating outing. They have dangerous negative consequences and affect the vulnerable LGBTQ youth. We all note there are families everywhere, including here in film war, where that communication I just talked about is not happening, okay? That LGBTQ plus youth face the opposite, being harmed emotionally, psychologically, physically. And it's happening already without a forced disclosure policy. We learned a couple of months ago in a presentation that filmores domestic violence calls per 1,000 people are higher than seven other jurisdictions in the county and these partners are mostly women are the ones who actually made the call Think about what else is happening these households and the calls that aren't being made Think about the kids think about the students and we all heard from folks earlier talking about this. To me doing something like this is dummy and lighter fluid on dry kindling, lying a match and walking away. Why on earth would anybody do this? Until all LGBTQ youth are embraced by their families, we need to work to protect them from facing mental and emotional anguish, isolation, ostracization, and abuse. Okay, couple of stats from the Trevor Project. 40% of LGBTQ youth young people seriously considered attempting suicide in the last year, including 46% of transgender and non-binary young people. One in four Latino LGBTQ plus youth have been physically threatened or harmed in the last year. LGBTQ youth have 120% higher risk of experiencing homelessness. And 90% of LGBTQ youth and young people said their well-being was negatively impacted due to recent politics. It is not lost on me and nor should it be lost on any of my fellow council members or anyone who's been watching the city council meetings That at our last meeting two weeks ago we proclaimed September to be suicide awareness month and in that resolution It encouraged every community member to create an environment where everyone feels comfortable reaching out for support Nobody has to fight alone. AB 1955 does the opposite. I'm sorry, opposing AB 1995 does the opposite. Creates an environment where this population, the most vulnerable one, vulnerable to suicide attempts feel that they cannot reach out. They could not be supported. They do have to fight alone. Or maybe they don't fight it all. Maybe they give up. Forced outing policies after have also have an underlying notion. they don't fight at all, maybe they give up. Forced outing policies after having also have an underlying notion, we've talked about a little bit about school districts and employers being secretive. But families are being subversive. This cannot be farther from the truth. Our local school, any public school district loves and appreciates and encourages the involvement of parents, both in their students learning in the school environment. Do you want to volunteer? There is PTA, there is Booster Club, there is Man of Schoolastic Book Fair, which I did. Being in charge of a fundraiser, volunteering the classroom, if you have a skill volunteer at the high school, I know someone who's in charge of the robotics club, parents are encouraged over and over and over again to be involved in their students' life. So there is no secrecy, there is no subversiveness going on our school districts. Do not let this be a political wedge issue that does nothing but bring divisiveness, fear and anguish. It's important to remember that nearly 40 years ago, next year the Film or City Council passed a resolution making Film or English only city. 40 years later, I would argue that that device of policy left scars that are still present to this day and still have ramifications. Please, counsel, do not do this. I will defend LGBTQ youth whether they're a half mile away or they're halfway across the country. Don't do this. Please not a policy to get involved with the school district or to add it to the 2 plus 2 meeting and how the school district decided this is set policy this is state law. Take no action or support AB 1955. Thank you. All right thank you. I guess I'd like to clarify what you need by don't do this because I think what I said was pretty clear about getting all the school district and ensuring that any interactions that we do have with the school district where there would be overlap is addressed. So that's what I'm talking about. And so I just want to make sure that I understand that everybody I think who has spoken tonight understands that the role that there's not really much the city can do to change anything about A, B, 19, 55. It will be law January 1st and we're going to put it to part of the school to make sure that those that do have concerns and there's obviously many and those that Support it on about politically that they there's a way for people to not really Fight over it, you know, that's kind of the point is there's obviously Animasi, which was not introduced by this council We've heard people's concerns and let's try to find a way To LA those concerns and let's try to find a way to lay those concerns. I think that's the point. Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead, Christine. I was just going to say I don't think that there, this is about a policy that is state law and that school, the school district staff, there is no, there is nothing that's going to be done. Life is going to continue to go on, as life is going on right now. If folks do want to approach the school district, they can approach the school district. I don't see a need for city involvement. Thank you. Well, I obviously am experiencing about this. A lot of you do. I know my fellow council members do. The one thing I want to point out and for clarification, well first of all, we had four right in public comments on this issue as well. All four were in favor of it. We did receive one who was opposed to it, but when you read the body of the letter, hold on to them. I didn't understand what you meant. About the letters? Yes. Occasionally when it's a hot button issue like the one tonight, we will receive emails earlier in the day for someone from constituents or maybe not even constituents, some of these live outside of the city of Fillmore. And they state their opinion just like those that come to the microphone do. So we received four of them today. And they were in favor of the AB 1955, but didn't really specify that they were opposed to a resolution by the council. They were just voicing their opinion about being opposed, or supporting AB 1955. So anyway, I wanted to point that out that we had four additional ones. But I wanted to clarify, and I think there's some confusion. I was confused when this 1955 first came out, that it does not force teachers to devolve to parents what their student had said to them. So they don't have to out them, which, you know, that's a relief to know, because we don't want that. But where I believe maybe 1955 goes too far, is where there's nothing requiring a stop gap or something that would prevent a teacher or staff members to encourage, let's say refer a student to a specialist or a counselor or further down that road and continue down that road of assisting the child with the intent of assisting the child to, you know, help them determine their sexuality, which does not require any involvement of the parent either. They can still, and I would feel better about AB 1955, if there had been some kind of stopgaps where, okay, sure, staff does not have to tell parents that this teacher or staff never believes a child is struggling with their sexuality. They don't have to share that, but they, as a parent, to me it's common sense, I'm not gonna relinquish my responsibility and my gift, that's how I see it, of caring for my child. I wanna be the one to do that. If I feel like my child needs to be moved to see a specialist or go to a doctor or what have you, that's my call. And that's the problem I have with this. I completely agree 100% that AB 1955 is right and not forcing a teacher to be the person out the student. And I agree with that. But it goes too far. I would not have an issue with 1955 at all if in fact it prohibited anything beyond that. If teachers don't want to engage with the parents on this, if they feel uncomfortable doing it, they are concerned about the safety of the child, then I agree 100%. Use your best judgment on that to the teachers and staff. But don't start referring a student, a child, who is not your child for any kind of treatment, any kind of, it's like, you know, the kids get vaccinations at schools. Don't you have to have a sign consent to get in, some kind of an immunization at school? From the parent, the parent has to sign off on that. I'd be furious if that was happening without my consent. And I think most parents would be. And so again, this gets back to this not just being an LGBTQ issue. This is a parental right issue. That's how I see it. And I don't want to see that slippery slope of parental rights being diminished. And even the whole term, it takes a village. That irritates me. I've never liked that from the beginning. It doesn't take a village. It takes the mom and dad, the family, the grandparents to raise a child. There's input from the village, sure. But not, I just don't buy into this giving so many rights of way where teachers can do further further the process make recommendations and make referrals where does it stop. So that's my position on this and I agree 100% that this came to us at I think as our Mayor Partime was saying it came to us and also Mark Austin was saying because the community brought it to us. This isn't fun for us. We don't want it, you know, but we had so many people that brought us to us and so many signatures that we felt like we can't ignore this, we have to discuss it and so we're discussing it. So that's my opinion. I'm sorry that one of our council members took the brunt of the heat tonight that was totally unfair. But that's my position. And I'm sorry we can't take questions at this point. Thank you, though. So that's finishes up. And what do we want to do? I wanted to say that I did a lot of talking to people in the community, but I specifically went to people that didn't, I knew didn't have my same viewpoints. That totally thought differently. And I totally respect this individual. She's not here tonight. I don't want to thank her for giving me her input. And she was my number one person I went to. She knows who I'm, who she is. I respect her decision. I have different ones, but I agree to withdraw on this as a parent on the one. I want to make sure that I'm making this. I want to know, like you said, I want to know. But I also think that AB 1955 isn't for the parents like that are involved. It's for the parents that are not involved. And that's who it's going to affect them. But that's if you can trust all the teachers and all the staff 100% too. I mean, I, and for giving you enough. And that's what I'm part of what I was in the end with is that I think we should work together with the school district and coming up with a better I don't work together and try to build that relationship in that bond and work with the school district to come up with a better alternative to what we have now. What would that look like? I don't know because we haven't had that conversation with them. At a minimum, I think it would be about helping people understand that the log is and what it means and maybe encourage the school districts to put out statement so that they can't address as well because there's definitely a public misunderstanding of jurisdiction, but then also there's always lines that get across where people come to us for school issues and I'm sure vice versa and it's just a good way of simple civics kind of understanding of where the jurisdictional lines are. Who then can go to with concerns over these issues and building that partnership? Because I mean, we already have a strong relationship, but we can always make it better. Okay, well what's before us this evening is, I mean, we can have that conversation with the school district, but what's before us right now is a decision on the staff recommendations that's to direct staff to prepare a resolution in support of or a resolution in opposition to do not do anything or provide other director directives. And our recommendation was to provide a statement in support of the Morinified School District and to highlight that strong relationship and to address this at the next ad hoc meeting with the school. So the school between the school and the city we can develop any other potential plan. Okay. So, from my thinking that's not what one of the recommendations is, in other words, that's not a- It's other direction to staff. Other. Yeah. Okay. So's not a school. It's other direction to staff. Other. Yeah. Okay, so not do a resolution. Yeah. The resolution, I guess you could potentially draft a resolution in support of the school district. But even just a statement. Even just a statement. Yeah, but we sub. I don't know. Well, there's definitely a public reception just by discussing it that we're somehow against the schools. And they can break us by two and two. I think there is a public perception just by discussing it here that we're somehow stepping on the school's jurisdiction, and we're not. But we ought to reinforce that we support the school district and just show our support for the school district. I mean, as a moving forward from this meeting, I think it makes sense to support for more unified school district, which was not necessarily involved in the drafting of the law. They're receiving this law just like the rest of the school districts in say California, whether or not they had even hinted at any kind of policy that this would ban. So it's going to be a new school policy and we ought to support the school in how it implements any changes related to this. Okay. Because ultimately when if there are issues it's going to creep up again. We might as well go out and support the school district independent of AB 1955. Okay. Is there any portion of AB 1955 that you oppose. I will leave that up to any discussions that I have with the school district in my capacity as a parent. So you can foresee possibly a resolution coming down the pipe after talking to the school district? No, I'm just saying this law does not go into effect until after I'm on it. I'm on it. I'm on it. I'm on it. I'm on it. I'm on it. I'm on it. I'm not going to allow you to laugh. I'm not. No, I'm not going to counsel. That's cheating. No. No, I'm just saying. That's a good point. Outside of a lawsuit, which I like boring politics, like I don't want to bring litigation to or from the city for something that is outside of jurisdiction. And so there are other legal challenges to this that already exist that might address people's concerns. I don't think we would even need to come close to any of those. But I think we need to reinforce our relationship with the school district. Motion. You have a motion? I'm an emotion that we do number three. Do not do anything. I have a motion. Okay. I second that motion. I second that motion. Do nothing. I motion in a second. All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Opposed? No. Okay, so what was that? We should do the voice. Let's do a voice. Can we do the voice? Councilmember V.S. Injured? Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Gorilla? No. Mayor Broglie? No. Councilmember Austin? He did. Councilmember Austin. He's a motion. He did. Okay, but can we do it that way? It's his motion. What I'm voting know is because we don't even know what we're doing from motion. Okay, I'm going to. I've rec to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going Now you're agreeing with the motion. Yes. OK. We can use this gatherer for now. Go ahead. OK. Thanks for the first. I'm sorry. Continue with the voice. OK. Yes. OK. So that's. No, I can do anything. You're welcome. Do not do anything. OK, 3, 2. 3, 2 do not do anything. OK. That motion passes. I don't number three passes. Do not do anything. We did a vote. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No. Hold on. What was I? I already said. But I didn't make a resolution. I vote for that. Can we strike the vote? I make motion reconsider. Seconded. reconsider. Second. I'll second it. Okay so all in favor reconsidering? Hi. No. Hi. Okay so now it's three two we're back to square one so we could have a new motion Sorry to have a clear can I ask a question so we had a motion that passed three two Once emotion passes the motion passed But someone on the positive side the successful side of the motion can make a motion to reconsider. Okay, thank you for the clarification. Okay, so I am in favor of resolution and opposition to AB 1955, but I want to be really specific about the criteria and how that's worded. And I specifically want to include reference to parental rights and not getting on this slippery slope however you want to word that and losing some of the parental rights that I think are lost with AB 1955. And simply again this is only an opinion. It's just an opinion. This carries no weight. It's just an opinion. And I think we have council members who are in agreement that they see the 90, AB 1955 has some good intentions but there's a whole lot of red flags and that's the point that I think we're trying to make it. And that's where I was asking you why because if it's parental rights, yes, I agree with that 100%. Right. Can I make a counter motion? We have it. I want to move that we go number four. I'll second that and I'm assuming, Mel, you're talking about my original motion. Okay. Okay. Wait a minute. I'm assuming, Mel, you're talking about my original motion. Okay. Okay. Wait a minute. So my motion stood originally as making a statement and support a film or unified school district and the Board of Trustees and to bring the item to AB 1955 as implemented or as written as a topic of discussion with the school board and the two plus two meetings specifically where the school and the city work with each other have contracts with each other overlap any of those common things that we share in there many I can't even name them all right now. Okay there's a motion why I have a second on that one. Chris. Yeah I was just reiterating what I said so Albert and I I think are in agreement. Oh you're that was my original motion I think he was bringing it back up again. Okay, I'm asking for a motion, what you just said. Yeah, Albert. Made a substitute motion for number four, option four, meaning what Chris had said earlier. And so Chris just explained again what that was after he seconded the substitute motion. Oh, so you seconded. Yeah, okay. Got you. Okay, so the motion is second on the favor. Please say aye. Aye. Opposed? No. No. Okay. So that motion does not pass. And I will go back to my original motion about opposing, a resolution to oppose opposition, maybe 1955, with the the caveox that I specified earlier. Second. All in favor? Oh, I have never seen this happen. Aye. Aye. Motion's dead. Opposed? motion is dead. Opposed? Yeah, no. I'll re-cuse me about. He what? I'll re-cuse myself on that vote. He re-cuse himself on that one. Okay. Okay. So where do we go now? It's at the Wemma. Okay, more discussion then? No action? No one has to write that motion. Let me try one more. I guess the reason why I refused to vote for something I don't agree with, which inevitably is resulting in something happening that I don't agree with, which is us doing nothing. I think that the importance of, uh, for words are important, but action, I think, is more important. And so regardless of what we say, which a resolution or a proclamation of any kind, would not change the law would not really affect anything. I propose that we do something and provide our sure support of the school which has always been there the school district which has always been there but then especially to discuss any potential ramifications of the law where the city and the school meet and overlap, which I can think of several contracts that we have with the city or with the school. I can give a couple of events that we put on with the school. And there may be nothing, but at least we should bring it up in discussion with the Board of Trustees through the two plus two. Yeah, and I, but I, I can see that happening anyway. I don't think that has anything to do with the item before us right now. You know, I think we. You can do that with the two. Yeah, the two, the two plus two, that's two plus two meaning two council members meeting with two board members along with our city manager and we do that periodically. We call it a two plus two meeting, but we do that anyway. We support them in that regard on all sorts of issues. So I don't see how that's gonna accomplish what this agenda item. I agree, Mayor. You would. I just say I agree with all your statement right now. Okay, Thank you. I think as a matter of public perception that there could be confusion just from what we've seen tonight. Stamets that were made, the public without a clear statement from the city, might think that the city has taken a position which doesn't seem to have passed. And I think it's important for us to show that we support the more unified school district, which is apparent, but not necessarily at all. From the two plus two meetings I've been involved with, not a single person has a single public attendee has shown up. So I think there is a lot of misconceptions about how intertwined the city and the school really are. I think it's just is important to highlight those existing relationships and again to support the school district directly and not great confusion. I think a point of order can only come from somebody on the council. Thank you. Great. Okay. Are we at we still me? Can I entertain any other motion? Anyone else have any ideas? Okay, I'll try one more time. The resolution and opposition to AB 1955 with the caveat that we focus on the lack of the diminishing of parental rights, the possibility of why we oppose, that's the reason we oppose AB 1955 as a council. I second. I have a motion in a second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. I have not in favor of words with no action. Okay. And the word no. Yeah, then no. Where it is. Where it is. So what do we call that? City Attorney. It's a stalemate. So we move on. No action. My apologies to all of you who spent so many, it's had been hours yet. Here this evening on this. And thank you so much for participating. And we'll see what happens. Is this the other? Yes. No action. No action. No action. No action. No action. Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All right. No action. All right. What's the score? Yeah, really. I lost my agenda. I have a request for just a quick two minute break. Can we do that real quick? Sure. So those of you who are here, go ahead and walk around. Come back and join us and hear the rest of the meeting. We're just going to take a quick break two minutes. Okay. I'm setting the timer. Okay, I'm going to call the meeting to order and we are moving on to, let's see where are we now. Item number 9B, award of contracts for Dolores Day Park restrooms. We'll turn it over to our staff. Good evening, Madam Mayor and Council members. This item is regarding the demolition and replacement of restrooms at Delora State Park. For this project staff work with Sourcewell Vendor, public restroom company. And on a spec restroom, similar to what is out there in size currently today, which is there. As you can see, it's seen better days. The spec restroom is built for longevity and ease of care. This new restroom is made of concrete masonry unit, CMU, rather than the wood structure that you're seeing in this picture here of the existing restroom. Staff also worked with another source well contractor, Wyatt Trap Inc, who's gonna be doing the demolition portion of the work, pad preparation, utility sub-outs, and then finish concrete work once the modular restroom is delivered and put in place. The modular restroom, there we go. Again you can see that it's made of a concrete masonry unit block for short, pretty durable. The paint and other beautification elements will be heard by our development review committee and decided real quick once awarded this contract is scheduled to begin November due to the timing of their production schedule. And we've worked on their production schedule with them for quite a while trying to, you know, beat them down on their long lead times, but they're not promising anything more than 140 days of completion. So this does put us into the summer months, you know, once we award this, we're going to get the contracts underway and get them in production quickly. And we'll work with them as quickly as possible on turning around submittals that we receive from them and cut down that so that lead time that they've given us on making decisions. So hopefully we'll, you know, with, if everything goes well, we'll have it constructed before summer, but they cannot guarantee that. So unfortunately that's the best I can give on the scheduling front. Cost-wise, we've staff took a look at what it would take to construct a building, not prefabricated and it's not even in the ballpark. To give you an idea on the comparison of cost of this modular building, coincidentally, public restroom company also installed the one at two rivers park back in 2008. And at that time, the large restroom, it's about double the size of this one, came in at 208, 208,000 was the low bid. And then the ranges were anywhere from 414,000 down to 300,000 for that. And then when we constructed two rivers park, there was an adult, an adult-turned-bit item to construct a small restroom, similar in size to this one. And those prices are comparable with what we're going to be contracting with public restrooms. That small restroom, again, in comparable size in 2008, came in the low bid was at 180. And we're at 180, actually, sorry, 190. And we're at 180, 5 with this modular restroom. So you can get an idea that the you know the costs have held pretty good Back then it was a starting company You know that they start they open doors up in 2002 the Tourist Park and the bid items on that came came in at 2008 so You know it we were feing pretty well on this cost. Why it trap, who's going to be doing some of the prep work and the finish work, is a source will contractor and we've checked his unit prices with others, you know, through the competitive bidding process and they are very competitive. So we feel that the recommendation before you, recognizing the fact that this is a budgeted project, the City Council allocated 242,000 of its ARPA funds to this current fiscal year's budget for this project. Staff's recommendation is to approve and authorize the City Manager to enter into a contract with public restrooms company for the purchase and delivery of the modular restrooms to the Lorsley Park and also approve and authorize the City Manager to enter into a contract with Wyatt Trap Inc. For the demolition, Pat Prep, and Finish Work. With that, I'd be happy to answer any questions you have. Okay, questions from Council for Staff? J.O.D.E.V. One question about the flooring. In the picture, it almost looks like a step up. Is there elevated flooring? In the picture it almost looks like it's a step up. Is there elevated flooring or is that just like a cross section of the underlaying concrete that we're looking at? It's exactly what, yeah, it's the ladder. This is the slab. It's not going to, why a trap is going to come in and elevate the pad for this, the structure with the slab already attached to it and you know put it right in place over a sand bed. Okay. So this will then the why a trap after this is installed, utilities are connected, the company will come in and finish from the concrete park that we have out there, the hardskate that we have out there, up to the building restroom. So it'll be a flush surface where you can wheelchair into the restroom with ease. And the flooring itself is concrete. Correct. Because it's a single unit. Correct. Okay. Anyone else? It just thank you, Joe, for the presentation and for addressing the timeline. I know that was one of the questions that I was going to have seen that it was going to be done nearing probably the end of summer. But I appreciate, Lane has to know that, you know, that with the contractor they have their timeline, but anything that can be moved up is always appreciated You enjoy over the summer the new restroom. Okay. Thank you. Thank you Great anyone else Okay, then I will entertain a motion Hey, I'll move that the City Council approve and authorize the City Manager to sign the contract with public restroom company for the purchase and delivery of the modular restroom for Delores Day Park and approve and authorize the City Manager to sign a contract with Wyatt Trapink for the demolition of the existing structure pad prep final time of utilities. Yep, that's it. Can you have a motion to have a second? A second. I think Chris beat you to it. Okay so motion of second all in favor please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Hearing none this agenda item passes. Okay so moving on to our next agenda item 9c consideration of solid waste solution ink contract amendment. Good evening mayor council members residents of Fillmore. I would like to request City Council to consider awarding its three-year contract extension to solid waste solutions. They have been our consultant since March of 2021. During this time, staff believes that they have been instrumental in assisting the city to comply with state regulations pertaining to solid waste. Such state mandates are AB 939, AB 341, AB 1826, SB 1383, and AB 827. They all, all of the legislations pretty much go back in the importance of solid waste recycling and also including the food recycling as well. As W. S or solid waste solutions has been working closely with the administrative department and providing the city of filmar with the following activities. The preparation of the Cal Recycle Annual Report, which is huge. They also sit on the annual audit calls with myself. They help prepare my office as well with correspondence that we put out to educate the public with the franchise coordination agreement with Harrison and program developments to continue implementing this different programs that we're responsible to put out there for the community. The crew agreement with SWUS, which was the first amendment, is said to expire at the end of the year. So we're trying to be proactive. However, we believe that it will be just for the city's best interest if we continue to use their services. They currently are operating not only in Ventura County, but also LA County and Santa Barbara County. So they have in Santa Barbara County, they work with City of Garbintaria and Goliada. Ventura County, they have Ohio, Santa Paula, Camarillo and currently with Fillmore. And in LA County, they work with Agura Hills and Malibu, just to give you an idea. We're expanding the scope of work to allow us to also work with them for the upcoming franchise agreement with EJ Harrison. I want to make a clarification on my staff report I indicated that the amount would be not to exceed 133,500. However, that is the amount that I'm requesting that you authorize tonight. And that would increase the total amount for the term of the contract to 312,000. Something that I want to bring to your attention is we did apply for a state grant through Cal Recycle. We were granted two rounds, the last round that we received was for $75,000 and we have allocated budget to offset the contract fees and I can tell you from a proven and revising the invoices, it looks like we're paying 50% of their monthly bill gets offset by the grant funding. So that concludes my presentation. I'm here to answer any questions. Any questions from Townhill? I do, Mayor. Thank you. Edica, thank you for your presentation. Question on, well I guess the various bills are, is the implementation, it sounds like ongoing kind of in perpetuity. Correct. And part of the Cal Recycle Annual Report references the year report, we have different sections that we have to go back and notify Cal Recycle on what we're been doing. So there's a commercial portion of it. There's also the residential portion of it. There's intakes. And so SWS handles all that coordination on behalf of the city. They usually send all the correspondence on our behalf. We review it. So it's a lot of coordination. And they're also sitting on the, there's a county group also. So the representative from SWUS who met last meeting, Kim Nilsson. She sits on those meetings and then reports back to the city, which is time consuming as well. Absolutely. And then a follow up question on that too. Do you see these local assistant grants like the one for 1383 continuing? Or is that sort of just something for a few of the beginning startup years of? And talking with Kim, we believe that there might be another trench, but it's just something that the state pretty much manages. And last time we didn't have to reapply, which was great. So we applied, I believe it was in 2021, I brought forward a resolution, and we applied, and we were granted a trench. And then this second trench was much more. Because I think the first time if I recall correctly was close to 20,000, what we got and this time it was 75,000. Great. Thank you. If I want to, I just want to make sure that it's clear to the public kind of what we're doing. So there's at least five state laws that have come out in various time frames to implement changes to the way we handle waste. The contract with Harrison is separate, but managed through solid waste solutions. Managed through the city, but with the advice. Yeah, with the advisement. Yeah, because those laws are obviously many and sometimes complicated and to address the question that Christina wrote up about whether or not those funds are just kind of like kick off a program. I think one of the arguments that was presented from Harrison when the rate changes happened recently was to sustain some of the changes that were implemented by these laws. So it's kind of, that's where these two things meet. They're two separate contracts, but one kind of advises the other. And hopefully there's some sustain and the rate increases. And if you like, I can just give a brief overview of which each state law means just for the public. I mean, I can get into details if you like that. It's okay. I mean, it's all there. I just want to make sure it's clear to people that there it's not just one lot at least five here. Okay. Okay. Anyone else? Okay. I will entertain a motion. Okay. I'll recommend that City Council award a three-year contract ascension to second as a second amendment to solid waste solutions to continue to assist the city in the implementation of the solid waste laws and mandates that are set forth by the state. In the second. Second. I have a motion of second. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? Very none. The agenda item passes. Okay, moving on to item number 90. We will turn it over to Brian McCarthy. Good evening. Mayor, City Council, City of Fillmore. This is a project you've all seen in one capacity or another. Different commissions are on City Council. It's the Fillmore on Central located at 461 Central. And tonight we're visiting the 4th Amendment to the remediation agreement. So in this public hearing we're considering the 4th Amendment for a one-year time extension to complete the conditions of approval. The project is located as as as I said, at 461 Central. It's at the corner of Kensington Central and First Street. It's already just being used as a banquet hall. And you're probably all familiar with it. It probably has an event one to two per month. And we've received no complaints. It's been an operation for several years now. This is a site plan. This is another image of the site plan, 3D. These are the buildings on site. This is all baked into the conditional use permit that they're operating under. This is the condition that remains outstanding. It's condition E13, it has to do with the undergrounding of overhead utilities along Kensington and Central. And there's a street light that's at the corner of the alley in Kensington. Mainly that's to be replaced with what we have the decorative filmorian light that you see around town. in New York City, New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, and New York City, utilities. You can't always just remove one pole or one light because they are strung together with other poles and lights and you have to figure out where the the energy is coming from different pole boxes and things like that had to be considered. There were various technical options considered. If you can see my mouse there's a little triangle there at the corner of Kensington. That's really all at this condition considered. But when you get into the undertaking with Edison's engineering plan and with our engineering, it's evolved. So this is what it looks like today. So there will be the scope of work has expanded, but in a good way, it's taking down the undergrounding all along Kensington and then the pole at the corner of Kensington and Central will also be replaced with a Fillamorian light. And it'll be the double globe one that you get on the corners. And then they'll pull that line across the street instead of the overheads running across the street, it will come underground. Now the one part that's not a great aspect is that our out of pole, they have to out of pole on the east side of central And that's in order to make the span across the two existing poles there But it gets us closer to more and undergrounding and hopefully in the future when there's undergrounding that comes along central in that block It will be much easier. So this gets us another step closer The applicant has been working Dilegently on it. It's to know a fault of their own that it's taken this long. They've done everything that's been asked. They've prepared the civil plans. They've worked with Edison. So they're getting close and we should be expecting a final plan from Edison soon and then we'll go to construction. This is a brief timeline in the background here. I won't get into this too much, but you can just, we just like to use the outline previous decisions so you can follow what's gone on the project's history. This has no impact to the city's general fund, and it implements the City Council goal for economic development with a diverse portfolio of businesses. There is nothing in this proposal that's a health and safety hazard for the public. It's simply a beautification effort. So being that we're gonna get more beautification out of this, we feel like it's a win. And our recommendation here is to, not really consider CEQA too much, but to approve the Fourth Amendment to the remediation agreement, and to extend the condition approval completion deadline to October 20, 2025. I'm here to answer your questions. Okay, questions. Any? Right, would you mind bringing up the picture again? Just curious, did you get point out a little more clearly where the new poll would go? I think I'd see it it would be but Yeah, you can see a green box They're on the east side right adjacent to that is a red circle a little bit harder to see That's the wood pole. Okay, so it's essentially just replacing one in place almost Well, it's adding a pole there because the span between the existing lights on that side is too great But it will take down the overheads that go from light to light. So there's a light there at the corner of Kensington and Central and from that runs two lights that go overhead to the other lights and they attach at the top, but those are quite old and those aren't made anymore. So by taking those down and coming across the street, they've got to come up a hole and then they can span across. You're saying the future undergrading could happen with street improvements or anything? Yeah, and then future undergrounding, you know, if we could get something on the east side of central to take down those other segments, you'd be that much closer. Yeah. And the applicants, you know, on the hook for doing the work and they're proposing to do the applicants, you know, on the hook for doing the work and they're proposing to do the work. They're getting the work done and it's going to be a, they're proposing a trenchless to get under the street. We're not quite sure how it's going to work yet, but we'll be working to minimize any traffic impacts when that's under construction. Yeah. And sorry to some other question too. Just to clarify, you said this is not a, this is not a project is not stalling that they are working closely. Edison is working, it's just in terms of Edison's timeline and getting. It's getting better. Yeah, there are turnover in project managers a lot. And then the technical design has changed. And then we had also at one time contemplated An effort to expand the undergrounding but we couldn't find the monies In our other you know their tinks that we were looking at to do that So we we were considering all options to get the best economies of scale out of work doing all the work at once But we came back to this and this seems to be the best design so far But it's mostly being generated by Edison Yeah, thank you back to this and this seems to be the best design so far. But it's mostly being generated by Edison. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, the, I mean, our plan ultimately so get everything under ground, all electrical, correct? I mean, ideally, that would be great. But it concerns me with other projects coming down the pike or running into that delay from Edison. I mean, this was September 22nd when they first communicated this and now- When the CUP was first approved was, yes, April 22nd. Yeah, so we're talking- April 22nd. Three years later. Correct. I mean, they probably didn't start this one condition right away because they were still doing all the construction and the focus was on the building and safety aspect of it And then this was more of a beautification thing so this came in line with when they did the street benches Right and the street benches are done and completed But this one has a a lot longer lead time For design and for all green materials Okay, then I will entertain a motion. I move that City Council approves the Fourth Amendment to property remediation agreement with 4 6 1 central LLC to extend the conditions of approval completion deadline to October 20th 2025. I have a motion and a second. All in favor please say aye. motion. Second all in favor please say aye. Opposed hearing then this agenda item passes. Okay. So that concludes our agenda. I'm going to adjourn the meeting to close session. And I believe we have two items on. I think it's because there's no hyperlinks in our brackets so it looks different. Okay. Turns over to staff for any. Commissioner, commission, commission reports. I don't have a friend me. Commission reports, board reports, committee reports. Sure, I'll begin with, I just have one. Ventura Regional Sanitation District, little update on toll and landfill. I believe I let the council know a few months ago that they are starting on the last and final sound of toll and landfill. There's been some delays that to know, no fault of current staff or they're working at toll and but apparently 25 odd years ago for, I guess in the beginnings of the Tribusional Sanitation District, there was things left on that particular cell and buried long, long ago. So as they start to dig out this cell, you can manage their moving piles of dirt, their finding trash that shouldn't have been there and other things. So anyhow, in our latest meeting, we agreed to a whole bunch of change orders to get this project off the ground and it is going to go forward. And what it means to the community is just for us to keep in that mindset, that toll and landfill will sometime in the next, probably 10 to 12 years it all depends about how well the trash can be compacted down and how much aerospace they're going to have, but it will be filled and the toll man fill will be closed. So, just a little update on that end from the inter-regional sanitation district. Oh. I'm thinking of the years that VRSD took it over but the landfill has been open since I want to say the late 60s or early 70s But just it was under operation from you know private I think it was privately by the local ranchers nearby operated Thank you Okay, anyone else? Okay, that's it. Then I will not leave our city manager out. Turn it over to him for your report. Thank you. Just a reminder tomorrow night here at City Hall at 6 o'clock we have the economic development collaborative doing a social media workshop for local businesses. If you were not able to attend, we've also been doing a hybrid format. Allow people to do an online and person and we'll also have record our website when it's all completed. We also have the upcoming Film or Trunk or Treat event. That is on Thursday, October 31st. We'll be from five o'clock to six p.m., it'll be for a sensory friendly hour, and then from six o'clock to eight o'clock, will be the opening for everybody to come down and participate. That's on Central Avenue and downtown Filmware. If you're interested in participating with the vehicle, we have registration as free for the event. Let's see you go online and all participation form will do no later than 4 p.m. Monday on October 21st. And any questions please call a parks and recreation department. 8805-524-1500 at extension 713. And it is one thing I'll say tonight because on the agenda, in terms of talking about the city manager position, my have submitted my resignation to the city except the new position by last day here will be on November 29th of 2024. I'll have more comments later on. Thank you. And with that, I'll say the Padre is one. I'd like to think there were no fireworks. Resolution. Okay. I'm going to adjourn to close session, but we will come back down to a adjourn the entire meeting to our next meeting. So before we do, can I just say thank you, thank you, Dave, for 11 years. 12, with the city. Thank you. Mayor, I think you have to. The two items, just the titles. Yeah, I got interrupted. I know. You know, baseball news and things like that. Yes. So close session on two items. One with legal counsel and one public employee employment discussion. So we'll be back down to close out. Thank you. Okay, we have just read adjourned after closed session and we're going to now adjourn the meeting to our next scheduled meeting on Tuesday, October 22, 2024. Thank you.