The baby just started this morning before we give in to the gym. I just want to background where we are and what's for our treatment plant. First and foremost, we have an honorary counseling member who are all living with us here. So we're going to explore it. We don't get out here all the time. So this is something that's a new experience for several of the counseling members, including for cell. But I think most of you do the history of our bottle with a question of the treatment plan. And the department has been down in the state. That's going to cause us to spend anywhere from 50 to $6.65 million. We know what that means. So what is amazing, hard, but I found it would be good for you all to get out here and get your eyes on the soil and the plant. This is what you need to do. But this part of the plant, the original plant was built in the Bipinthes. A long time ago, this building was built in the angels. It's still very functional, but it's very dated as you can tell. It's very institutional and very dated, but it can be and it is very functional. As I was telling folks earlier, you know, the last year 2020 full, we spent roughly $10 million up here on improvements, primarily to the outfall that served about 40% of the time that comes out here. And then we've got the latest challenge with the EPD mandate that had to permit to remount the file as planned. And we got a pretty short edge end of the day. Ashton does not have financial to do that on the agenda. She's still busy closing out 2020. We'll have a little bit more of that. It was all too preliminary to present. But we didn't have time allowed for any rest. and get a tour of the plane to have to have a plane over here. I wish for the treatment superintendent to kind of get an overview. We could do it basically over the maps and prints and there were a physical law through the plane. You got to ask that. Cheryl, they're gingershould. I'll call it for. I'll call it no. We'll go ahead and get started with a cruise of the February 5th, the utility meeting minutes. I know those were all available for everyone. We can have a nation. So moved. Second. All in favor. Hi. We will grant the financial and good fortune. First, it's fine that we're still in the near end. Sales report will go in and turn it over to air. Or have been your program. Council and honorary council members. So I'm going to go over January 2025. I can you see a letter. It's pretty solid for January for the positive growth board. Additionally, letter and a slide will go over to additional details. However, the snow days is not included in these numbers. Just so you know, you're aware. So bit worse than we do, a little bit elevated and usual, but you will see a mix and we'll go over that. The V.A. So here with our electric we budget 4.725 that was before the rate of adjustments and the previous PCA So that's why it's 4.725 and we're brought in 5.1 million And as you can see we got two aluminum dots up there. They'll get some friends next month. Now, electric one, energy cells, we anticipate cell 4144 million. We saw 4241 and additionally, those snow days are not included in these numbers. So you're gonna see you get an anomaly in February. You think I'm in more cells I assume because of dig yes. Well, I hope it's more, but the the entry cells from those snow days is that go for you encounter a bit worse budget because of the how the building cycles work. And so those two building cycles it kind goes over in the previous month. So they had part of December on on their utility bill when they get pushed out February and then while in January so they'll have the snow days on their February bill. And so when we pull the report does numbers mean February? So folks will see how you kill the bills? Well then they shouldn't have. I know I saw about six seven dollar increase just for those so a few days as I know my he just stayed the brand the whole time. So remember the energy that we say like in January we build that out the five billion so I believe January is building includes December's consumption. But when we get the January bill from the additives from our calendar first to 31st so it never really matches and typically it's pretty close but when you get something like you have all the times, either from a calendar, first to 31st. So it never really matches. Well, it's typically pretty close, but when you get something like you have on the 22nd of January, those spikes and consumption, it's not well, you know, it's offset. I think they're around 16% of budget. They did look pretty close. And then this bullet, I'm not showing you in the city of New York. I like the judgment that will be done at the top. So, well, I'm good here. The Ex Numbers for Us, budgeted about $3 million. 3-point- and that's not your customer. That's not your customer. That's not your customer. That's not your customer. So, here, the ex numbers for us, budget about $3.8 million, what our bill was, but that includes snow dicks from the ex standpoint. Like I said, they build January 1 to 31, so they include all that in there. And so, this is where you see the spike of only energy since well and it is about 15.9 percent. Now the natural gas, their ability cycles in a clutch waste because we do a very well rate throughout it so it can catch a little bit of these snow days and eat donuts. However, we were in that 3% margin order customer base of well customer we will ask them as one customer of energy so we were a little down compared to the year before that's because our industrial was not from it. And then total revenue we were up a little bit because the spot market of gas is up so we're starting to see it over over trend of natural gas prices going up. Additionally, the eggs also track the same information. So it's kind of thrown to respect the defense gas prices go up throughout the year. Now with water, water did really well at all that negative 17.6. It's going to scare you. That is directly associated with developments. So we are on track, we didn't have a high development number last year. That would be an positive number there. And so the last year is about $200,000 from the broke end on developments. So this year, I believe it's about, I hate giving you a number, but it's in your own board on the TAP fees. It is nowhere near what it was the year before. When did those people pay those fees? So it depends on whenever it comes to adult developments. And so typically when they come in, well, they issue them in an invoice and sometimes they'll wait 90 days a day, 180 days, or they'll pay it right. And so with this here, we had one come in brought for the end of the year, paid most of their bill, and then they came back in and the first week of January, we paid the rest of it. How's the development out on Old Albany Road or Cassie Road? I'll clear it out now. Have they already paid all their... Yes, yes. So there's a $800,000. So all that was in last year. That's why we had such a high number. The lunar worth of a million dollars on the bill that last year. They came in paying. As we're right now, the only one I believe has not paid is still good to you. Review is the one out of 122 across mass growth. that bill has not paid yet, but there were some issues out with the company. I'll send that off to talk about try to get any other work property over behind Circle K coming off Pondshire and going towards Tallahassee. So we named that probably the work property and they have not paid their fees yet but just compared to Cassie where I it, and they're very small. Scott, that one on Casie was a little over 500,000? Yeah, I do it was a lot. I'm waiting for sure if all that gets paid before they break ground or. But it didn't just pass. So we'll give them an invoice, and sometimes they'll be like, hey, I'd rather do an X-Foncy, and then have a contractor do this. and that's completely up to them. But they can, like, pay at all at one time, or we were getting. where they come and pay for half and then after the job is done they pay for the other half. What did we have in that line? Oh yeah so they've got a deadline at that point. Oh well that's the deadline we were issued and they do have voice above the materials and things that nature took place could be a 15% increase of that base bulb of material. So labor doesn't change drastically to those invoices, it's usually the materials. Or sometimes they'll like to make a utility plan change and then that point does it is different. Now wastewater and wastewater doing well is positive cross-sports well. And then sanitation is also doing what is positive cross-sports aboard. Any questions? I guess I do have a question and I don't know when the appropriate time. So like for instance, natural gas, you mentioned prices going up. I guess I'm all think curious like what is our growth trajectory on natural gas, where are opportunities to expand or not expand? What are we trying to do with it? So what we're trying to do now is so so the National Gas Authority, it's got the National Gas Connection, that opens up a resource to developers to get appliances at cost. And so, well, the cash and rip property, that's the first thing we did this with. We've been trying to get developers on board and do it. So what we do is, we offer to, we'll go into the infrastructure, we'll do that or introduce costs all the national guests and then we also have a program where if you put in X amount of appliances year-round, the service is free ultimately. But we recoup all that costs within that, it lives in three year or alive. But we're trying to entice developers like, hey, we this free program. You put in a plant as an add calls and That developed ration jumped on it Well, the only concern we've seen coming from developers is as they're going through their building Later on and say they decided that hey, I'm in a tie spot. I need to sell this property. How's that going to impact me? So we try to say that consideration is case by case But we also look at a cow like age infrastructure if we can improve the system ourselves, we'll go in and do the sniffing and reduced costs. Because that point, the development being there bitf is sitting greatly. But we're rather trying to market it. We're trying to get developers on board to a board where it's not free, but it's at pretty close to costs or even below cost to get services put in. The issue with natural gas is there's the negative stigma with it. It comes down to education that it's going to blow off. We don't have a recorded record as far as I'm going to wear the house blowing in city halls from natural gas. You usually see that up north or you see like an instance with it, like getting care or some of that. Now you've had some fires happen and then it gets associated with natural gas. But it's education we're trying to change as well to get more people to the natural gas value. One of the challenges that we sometimes face, not so much with growth, but I guess in small incremental losses, is when someone has a natural gas and plant appliance that needs to be replaced, it's a lot more expensive to do that. So sometimes they'll go with the cheaper alternative and go ahead and go with an electric. we we do have with the working on this for a while to work with MGAC to incorporate an on-beal financing incentive program that's similar to what we already do, but it would just open up that other avenue with the working on it for a little while with them. So pretty soon you'll see a new ordinance come to you all that you'll have to pass that just allows us to participate in that program and then that would allow people who are natural gas users to also receive those incentive and rebates and on-bill finance and opportunities with that so it's not necessarily huge growth but it might help keep some of our customers on the system rather than transferring over to a lecturing. Is there a plan to educate? I mean, essentially, the companies that installed them are the ones that, I mean, if I'm asking about an AC unit or heating unit, the guys want to do it, so we'll say, well, my recommendation is you go electric here because of this calls or whatever it would be. So they need to be. That's going to be a big part of it. Educated. Yes. So this is actually part of our public works program. We're trying to bring something back. We used a long time ago with foreign came here is give. educated. So that's actually part of our public works program. We're trying to bring something back. We used to do a long time to live for and came here is get contractors and we bought them to a dinner or something like that and we told them about pushing natural gas and they didn't wear a lot of rebate programs and they're also eligible for it. It's just trying to get that back in there because in the last few years there's been a huge push for electric There's Snipker rebates out there for electric. You know federal size. So that's also what we're competing with But we benefit from I mean So we try to push one over the other no when it comes to residential we're trying to push all of it So something no Offer it is like so if there's a development out of the county I mean of the county, we'll say Nash guys close by, which helps, hey, you get all four utilities, we'll stand out to you. However, as I say, if it's unveasible, then no, well, we're just not doing that. Sorry, last question. Okay, go ahead. Things like, there was an opportunity for like, like old dry like big industries that we might try to go after. Are there any other? I think that one's not going to happen, but are there other opportunities out there? When we're looking at economic development and we work with Shell, I mean we do look at what is that utility load, you know, both natural gas and electric. So all of that's important. So we have had some had some prospects that would would pull a pretty good utility load you know in terms of natural gas if they were to come but you know those projects take a little while but that is something that is very important to us homeowner when we're looking at you know which prospects because if you're doing things like giving land and other incentives I hate to say we want something out of it we want want something out of it. We do try to look at that. And then one downside is we only get 3,000 MCFs daily element. So an authorized situation. They could drain the entire city two times over. And only pipeline itself forgets us. Not a natural gas. And so I know know him gets trying to get additional resources for that also. That's been a big issue as well, but we just can't provide the amount that they're asking for. And if gas not a lot of eating more on it. So the old drive deal, you know, we determined that made the margins. I mean, they got extremely high on the bottom, you know, going through there by the margins or raise their theme. So we did it to you with them. I forget that. I think it was less than a thousand dollars. There were a lot of administrative work to do it for the bill and all that. And it wasn't for the work. And I'll ship out. They were really interested in changing providers either. So we give you a good try. Sorry, I have a question. What bill was it last month bill that the snow days were in, that we paid last month? Or what? So with the Miyagi, it would have been on January's Miyagi bill. But for the citizens, apparently, which bill inside will you're in, it would have been on February's, or January's. So it's more of the other. I know from mine and I saw it in February. That's the belief that I'm building cycle one. And so those days didn't catch my snow days. Everyone got my bill in February. That's when I personally saw them. Well, I will say that I don't even know how people living with these utility bills, For the ones who have called me and showed me and all of that. And I understand because most of them that didn't go up real high, you know, if it went up $100, $125, I will say that was a snow day. But for somebody's utility bills that I've been seeing for 14 and 1900 and 1700, how can someone live? Something is wrong with that because if you have gone all of these years and only paid, you know the highest you may have paid with 750, something like that. And then it comes up to 14 something Something is wrong with it. I don't know what's wrong with it Provide us there's names that account. I'll check into the end of the concept that rolls. Yeah I go from I mean They're definitely I think we show it to the 18 hundred dollars and one lady will be talking to you all about her $1400 and some bill Is that a one month? Consumption one monthul? One month. I don't see how they have me. I don't either. I can't even see how people are living with $600. You tend to be real. I will say it goes back to an education standpoint, too. My bill went down during the snow day. You didn't use the electricity My entire electricity bill for a house is 2,900 square feet, was I think $170 total for the electric portion of it. So mine went up. It goes hand in hand with just how you're everybody swapped to electric. There's certain things as gas is just more efficient. certain categories where we have been pushed to move to electric water heaters and electric air conditioners, but when you get a four degree temperature spread in your house and it's in the teens that heat pump cannot hardly keep up with it, so heat strips kick on. So what could potentially have happened in that case, people don't realize is your heat strips can get stuck on. And so you're running equivalent of a stove of a range or cooktop continuously. That's a 240 line that's going in there. And so that's where those situations can happen because that's what often occurs. I do know that my heat strip, especially when upstairs, would kick in sometime. But what I do is I turn it, make sure it's only 72 constantly and the heat strip never kicks in, right? It's just going, going, it will never kick in. But those really, really cold days and I understand the bill going up a little. I have seen a bill who went down during this notice, but you telling me yours, Dean, congratulations. But I have not seen what I have not heard from him. Oh, he got a gas. Oh, OK, I'm talking about electric. It should also be. And one was gas for the person that had the 1900 one. And then the other one that I'm talking about, I can get that was 1400. She has only electricity. Encourage them to come see our staff, because they will look through that. They'll, you know, first of all, make sure there's not an air. And then they'll, we can also do the home energy audits to make sure that it's going at her house. One thing that can be done you know could be especially when it's cold leather like you know you have good insulation around your windows or on your doors. People don't realize it's this isn't electricity but how much a running toilet can really cost you you know in terms of your water bill um there's a lot of different things that can happen. The other thing is when it gets cold a lot we'll put their thermostat on emergency heat because it's super cold and I need more that's like one of the worst things you can do because of how much you know like he was saying it's you it's not gonna shut off so that can also contribute but if you'll refer them over to our staff we'll talk them through that work them through that, and then we do have payment options to help them. We do try to remind our customers by population, we are in the fifth percentile to 95% of everybody in Georgia has a higher, excuse me, doesn't have to go to a letter grade in the weekly. And 33% of our population right here in Thomasville lives in poverty. So I mean when we measure one egg against the other we are in a mess because and I'm not just saying this but when people call you about each utility bills or how high they are and they do all of this and then you know what I said and we didn't do a rating increase. We didn't put a rating increase in the budget. So let's see how we can work with what we have, you know, trying to ease people mind about utilities. 33% of our people, 25% of the children living poverty. So a six, eight, ten hundred dollars when you get nine hundred seven five dollars a month for SSI and you make it, you know, twelve or thirteen hundred for social security because you remember a long time ago we didn't even, we couldn't pay it as social security. But when you get all of that and then a long time ago we couldn't get social security because we were working at jobs that didn't do social security. So elderly are in a pickle but you know we just got to figure out how to put an egg egg and make it work out and I know that's not easy it's not easy at all I already know that but we cannot do some of the things that we're doing and keep thinking that we could go up on you toe That is no way. And in taxes, same thing, they lose their homes because of taxes. They'll be having them. That home will be on the block. We gotta figure out some ways because people are crying about what's going on. And I know that it's not, it's hard. I already know it's hard. Leave me. I don't know what the answers are going to be but I'm looking for management all of you to tell us what we can do. I don't care if it's just a little just tell us what we can do to make this work out a little bit better. So personally for me, I think about how to for example, it was built in 64 or 5 years ago. Well, it was built in built in 54, it was built into a five years ago. I actually built $673 a first month. I started looking at it. I even used the energy on it now. I was working in a natural gas system, it's just an equipment operator. Maybe $13 an hour or something like that. Well, the energy audit came in and found out that my AC unit was 23 years old. It was very low insulation in it. But this Saturday I just found out that taking a few windows out, I didn't have a lick of insulation around them. But as I've been doing all this, my utility bill today isn't around $270. Because I've done the encapsulation underneath, I've updated appliances, and I'm not going extravagant. I'm getting bare minimum what I can afford and I've seen a huge dress and all that so you can use all of our cake appliances as well so as Many of you know there's a grant with TCDC if you want to do Home vulnerabilities one on a lot that Follows it and y'all spot. That's what I'd encourage people to do. A lot of the grant, go through that process, start getting your homes updated, and if you own the house, you're going to benefit from that drastically. That's what I would encourage people to do. And you would see your utility bill go down. So many people don't own their houses, their renters. If you do an average of how many people in our city that are renters, you know, I mean, but it's a lot and one thing that I would also encourage people is if you've got a high utility bill and lower rent, maybe consider paying a little more for rent to rent someplace that has more energy efficiency so that your utility bill could be that the combined amount ends up saving a little bit of money. And that's what you, that's what a lot of things were seeing. You pay more rent, you pay more utility than you rent around. Right. So, you know, I would, I would flip that, you know, look for something that maybe has a little more energy efficiency to it. And then they'll say, well, that utility they may come out. It is not easy to look for more when you have a certain. I know. Okay, because I mean we can I mean I know we're trying to figure out what to do and that's one of the strategies that could happen with some people but with our 33% is hard for that to have. You have to pay whatever they tell you to pay for rent. You have to pay whatever they tell you to pay for utilities and you have to pay whatever they tell you to pay for groceries. Those other things that you definitely have to have. So I just wanted to bring that out and I just I just think that if a person come to me just about with tears their their eyes about these utility bills, you know, but I was even explaining a lot of it about the, you know, snowy increases. So that was really good. But they took that, you know, to say, okay, I understand that. But- It's a tough position for you all to be in too too because you understand the needs that we have from the city. You can need, you know, how we're funded and the needs we have, which is, you know, while we're meeting here because you're all very familiar with the wastewater treatment plant and what the needs are that we're going to have here. the creation at upwards of 60 million that have to be spent here just to stay compliant. We do have some thoughts for a few pale nearies that we can throw out to you know, upwards of 60 million that have to be spent here just to stay compliant. We do have some thoughts for, you know, a few hail mairies that we can throw out to, you know, maybe get some of that less of us, you know, we're, they're true hail mairies. We'll see how they go. But we wanted to go ahead and just give you all the information. I think that it has to be set the retreat. look at the wastewater rates to see how they compare and maybe some maneuvering that we could do to help cover some of those costs. So, Eric, do you want to go ahead and move into that? What you'll see in this presentation too is that but proposing rate increases in the county, not for residential, city, and subways. Okay. Because it calls for the serve of county residents. Eastern. And also you will see some rate increases for conversion applications. You can't afford it, but frankly, better than our residential. That's what we're close to here that okay, so That's crystal said we got some water and wastewater rates of these consideration So we like this being a discussion all these other races work So here's a quick overview of everything we're causing as you see of their city residential water and a wastewater There's a big zero there. So over being very clear, nothing else city residential. City commercial, we are proposing a 3% or water 5% wastewater, county residential, water 7% wastewater, county commercial 5% and 7%. Additionally, we are wanting to move, we're proposed aid to separate connection fee schedule CD versus campaign as well. So in your packet, you should have a handout that mirrors the price issue. Well, additionally, you have a shout out to third packet. It kind of breaks down the same information, a little more detail between a one inch and a one three four inch meter things of base of that nature and so there's very sharp sick. However, this one here as you see the current base rate on the county residential waters 35 dollars and 13 cent but 5 percent it will go to a 36.89 and you can see it below with and wastewater as well. Now, on the usage rate, we do currently is $3.61 for water and it's $5.95. So with that, the increase of the five and seven percent, you'll go to $3.00 and not send it at $6.37. Now the usage will not change it, it will still cap out at 12,000000 gallons so that cash still there. Now if you go down to the current residential down below at the impacts of what their bills may look like, so our low volume high of blue dots should be a 5, 10 and 12. All wastewater and then water, it should mirror the same as well. So their current is on low as $5, $3, $18, that's just water and you get out of the wastewater 60 and 30 and in the bowl that is their total water and wastewater build that we would send to them. Now the proposed is what would the increase is going up and so the difference between the current and proposed on the low of $7.52 medium to $5.00 and on the high and $12.24. Now the law of this kind of incorporates as a higher cost to serve county property. Additionally something something else that I'll let cover later is this remote infill is well to vacant loss that's inside the city limits. And a return to cause-renews housing costs are sold by home, because infrastructure is there. That's usually a big part of new homes is the infrastructure being put in. You know, the water rate commercial increase consideration, we're proposing a 3% all on the inside for per city limits. And as you see from a 3 quarter all way to an 8 inch, it just travels up. However, that gap is very small. And so that proposed, you know, we go, we'll encourage $2.30. Now,, it would go to $2.46 per thousand gallons. And so it is a flat rate system. So every thousand gallons, it would pay $2.46. But no matter who they are, now on the base rates, you'll see it goes up as well. So we would say that three-quarter, to 1 inch. Currently it's $9 or $19.7. It's going at $20.30. So it's less than a dollar going up all commercial. I'll move that out. Okay, so however you can go down to an 8 inch and we have very few of these in the system. There's a lower $4 increase on that on their base fee. And there are no caps on commercial applications either. So they pay for what they use before. Now going to the outside, we were proposing a 5% increase. And so currently the pay $3.61 that will go $3.00 a cent per 1, And as you can see the gap between the boardgrass do get a little bigger However it costs us more money to serve them and When we dare call service study on the commercial applications. That's where we are losing money in our rates is those applications Now you see on the base rates because of just a little over a dollar and 60 cents, 70 cents, that would be the next day. The next day. The next day. The next day. The next day. The next day. The next day. The next day. The next day. The next day. that and that's where I got these from. I know the 35 said looks very easy. I am a big fan of whole numbers. So I came out by 4.3, 4.15, so that's an entry. And so I ran it up to five. Our cost service that it shows at all our commercial applications, that's where we lose the money on our rates. And we were losing money on the development side. However, we've kind of fixed that. And so the pay for it costs at call so but on the rates we do lose money all commercial I'd have to go back with the exact numbers but with these rating increases we could fill in our hole however the downside is those are 22 numbers so what these rates are based on me and baseball sales reports, we are starting to see that gap slowly close. So this could get us there where we almost break even. It doesn't fix any of our issues, where we still need a new treatment plan. That doesn't factor into these rates or even the sales reports. However, we're gonna do a new cost to start the study this year. Try to get that going using 2024 data. I'd update that because that's probably going to be a requirement. If we have to run a revenue bond for the shore, that's show what that is. And see where it's going to need to end up at to repay that to finance that that loan. No waste water. So I don't need commercial. This is inside the single limits. No, you know, proposing a five percent increase as well. That's a current that paid $3.96. Sit. That'd go $4.16. There's a small increase on the base there with $39.00. And on top of it, the commercial already pays the decrystantirate on what they use also. So as you see the 22, the current flows and it's minimal of what it looks like. And then on the county side, we're proposing a 7% increase. Currently the pay $5.94 and that's going to look to $6.37. And as you see again, it's very small as it's going up. You know, this made an annual revenue that we're anticipating on these numbers water that bring in additional $17,000, waste water 224,000, and that total would be 412,000, across the super-votes rate increases. And if you're wanting additional numbers of the city out of County things of that nature, I do have those numbers as well. What the sentence are you? Now the connection fee schedule. So one on the left is currently what we have for city and county. Now, about the top and red, when you do the calculation, that is what is calculated now to the 14-pian action fee. It's $2,000 for the $4.82. However, we're going to be proposing an immediate credit. That way, in the future, it creates less work because what you have to do with the connection fee is you've got to do a calculation based on their user rate fees and you have to get them in credit anyhow. So if we do it upfront, then we alleviate all that as well and also promote some better development. So one of the left is what we're proposing, leave with the city. Currently, the connection fee is already $8,000,000 and it ratchets up. And that's based upon your M.E.U. ratio. And all this is based upon a American World and World Association of Manual M6. Now, however, on the county, what Jordan or the Vellies goes to the county. The only thing the city benefits on the county side is we get some rates so they've paid the development fees. We are having to pay more to get take home there, so soon we're capacity, water, all that. The only thing where we don't lose money as electric because electric is on the gradient you're finding it goes two ways. So what we're proposing is simply double that number and you still give them a credit up front and this promotes Enfield in the city limits. So all those vacant loss and left-gate homes, you push developers to build on those or knock down those homes a little faster and we'll recur on the dealer. And so we just reached based on that ratio and how you do it, calculate that and you state that $2,000, multiply by 4 4.6 that's how you give a three two and you just keep going down the chart on that and so we start at 10 inches on the meters because we do not have the 10 inch. What we have in the systems eight we have it at the end we'll come in with 10 we calculate it up to a 10 anyhow in just case one day that happens. Any questions on us? We'll stay in conjunction with this to promote infield development. We're also going to be having statuses to build some criteria for creating or sticky discounted rates for connection fees and path fees, but in low-moder income areas to promote infuel it can jump some of this so you hear more about that come to me. Thank you. Keep in mind our LMIERS 2-3 is an entire city as well. But I mean really our cost are not substantial that there's been a home there before the Lord of the previous tap there, very sewer connection, in most cases. And so the intent is to get a home there, to get an electric meter spending, then you get a worm meter spending, and you know, the utilities, and one day a tax base. Yep. Now, comparison, who else does this? Just about everyone. Everyone else can actually fees some of nature So they spawn see or to see this fee schedule says a lot that when I created this chart I looked at like plank sizes and capacity, but I also included additional population they got so let's take a city multi for example they have have a population of 14.5. However they got a 4MGD plan that's million gallons per day and so their connection to three quarters is $1,250 and goes up however they do not follow the AWS data model so if you live in poultry and everyone can contest the connection fee there's a high chance you're going to win a court. So I would go ahead and take that out there. However, City of Tallahassee, they followed the AWBA model. There's as much higher, however their population is also much higher. And then you take the City of Albany, see Albany is smaller. The reason for that is they've got a larger population also what they did was their support a lot about property taxes only utilities also so they're able to curtail that good amount as well. Well they've taken seated Carrollton and they're much higher than what we're proposing and their population as much large as well. So every city develops a connection fee based upon needs. And the purpose of the connection fee is to help pay for capital improvement. So these connection fees could assist in offsetting costs of any capital projects we would want to do with our voice water systems. And as we know, another of our development is to the, really to the south, it's all to the north and the east. And we're starting to feel some of that pressure. You want to talk about the station three and that base that are over there by the loans and what we're going to have to spend to accommodate all this additional county growth that's coming home. Oh sure. I was hoping I'd be in bear bad news but let's just keep consistent. So let's session three area. Right now you may not have got any phone calls. That's the business because we got a bunch of band aids out there. There's no permanent fixes. We've been tackling a lot of eye and eye that's have nutrition and flow of water in our systems and a lot of it we found was on new construction. And so we've been fixing a lot of eye-night, as have trestsion and inflow, water-nour systems, and a lot of it we found was on new construction. And so we've been fixing a lot of that. However, to fix future issues, we've got the utility specter, he's been doing a great job. He may have got calls from developers. However, we're preventing liations with that. However, on that side, Live station 3 is not as bad we originally thought, but it's still bad from an energy standpoint. So we have something called operating on the curve. And that's literally just a graph where you get one line where a pump is supposed to be operating on this here, baseball and cir conditions. You have to know the line that crosses it of what the pump actually does. They should always intersect to the point, what's called a point of efficiency. However, ours will say three, they both go parallel. And that's called operating off the curve. You never want that. It's not an easy fix. You just can't drop the new pump in the hole. And we are well passive at that point of overturned. However, we found a cost effective solution, two. Keep mind just to three, about changing out the headers, the control panels, and then dropping in pumps actually I'll pray along with the curve. Now the bad news, but this also fixes future development also, and then it helps with some of our eye-to-eye issues of land holes over flowing. So everything from lift session three to lift session two which is past the technical college. I believe that's what was that air gas out there or was it acre maker? So it's acre maker. That lift station sits there. It is ballroom neck and what that means is one five size is 18 inches the other other one is much smaller, and it kind of does like this, but all the sizes, it's not consistent. So what we're proposing in a project is, up size all that 18. Up size all 18, that way it improves your capacity on that side where all that development is going to go anyhow. And so you could ultimately open a floodgate on development on a side town. Additionally, while we're doing this, you heard stories about the force main from three donor to pizza hut. It's an undersized, it was put in and the 50s are the 60s of that nature and we just kept using it over and over. Well, that's well-passed. It's a service life. So we're willing to outsize that from the 12th to 16th as well. Well then does is you can push more sewage from lift session three to two without popping any manholes and overflow and with the majority of our spills have happened in this area. Your ultimate temporary for those two houses that essentially almost got destroyed with sewer. We've backed up and moved plenty of mammals over there overflowing. However, we've kind of got a band-aid olivist station 15 over there where something happens with a tire turns off or anything of that nature. We've got a contingency in place to help prevent sewage and homes, but it's not a long-term solution. If one of those petitions go out, then we've got a huge mess on our hands again. However, let's say it's a 15. Once the development property of 122 comes along, we're asking a little shift massing growth. And now believe that, is that pickup point over there? Yeah. We're going to shift that and round it, go back towards big star, and that's going to open the lock capacity as well. And so we're able to phase out the decision 15 into a later date. And all things, the decision 15 really needs is new pumps and a new force made. However, you have to do this in a phased approach, because the loading of first the decision 15 is the easiest thing to do however if you do lip session 15 first you create problems and if we downstream we just push the problems will go to session 3 or we push it to the highway. Now the plan is we start up size and invite go and go in. Up size and all 18 that takes care of the man maybe over the flow and takes that nature. And then we come in and we tap the position two and three with the new pumps. However, since the law guard goes going on the North side of town also, what we're proposing is the different horsepower on the position two, to go ahead and take upon that new development. And with these connection feeds here, you'll help pay for that. Because all that's coming property out there. And that money's going to go in and help pay for this. This is to a great sense of all system costs. The project needs to be done. And it's really entering to this on the bell. And that's on 10 on it. And this way, it'll sell a lot. And about a third of the city sewer, or you know, with two thirds actually, 60% of our sewage, goes through session three. It goes to session two. And it creates a lot of problems, but it doesn't work right. So what is it? What is the standard all that the estimated constructs? So if we're extremely lucky, It'll give you about $3.5 million on the high end, it's a little north of 5th to do all that work. Let's start low on the time of sizing. They're giving me a hard number now, the engineers, but we're estimated to make somewhere a million to $1.2 billion. And that's what we currently have in the budget. That's what a project. Well, that's just upsets in the pipes. And then once we get that going, the following year, we'd like to start tackling the lift stations and go ahead and get them operating all correctly. And the lift station 15, we're trying to get that faced in through maintenance plans and things of that nature. Because like I said, the force made it, it's not very far that we've got put it in. We bore new lines all the time anyhow, because it's only a six inch. And with the pumps, which got to do some retrofitting of the rails going in. And then put in a pump that operates on the curve and something moves considered is some kind of grinder pump. Let's move that issue in that area of some one we don't know who putting in mopeds into our system and we cannot identify who. All we know is someone's doing it, it stops up the PlayStation and then it creates a huge back up and that system in that area is already so small that the search arch happens really quick when it happens. So when they get mop hands into our system? That's a very good question. We got to go over the answer. Oh. However recently we did go knock on air wall doors because we had a system that had different ways of start from. So we got an idea of kind of where it starts at. that I saw kind of as the expisary. Well, mine goes there. The one goes up blue as the Liberty Road back towards no tails. So we know one of those cross-getting ends. So what we did was finally created a really big problem and we got to send out the letters, notifications, ask for help. myself and the white splotters in the internet. We went and knocked on every door of business on there We told to and we kind of explained to them is like hey, this was going on Well, we're going to start a bigger investigation to try to figure out who's doing this and whoever's doing is gonna be held accountable I have to say another mop- that I'm going to the system yet so I cannot say you who did all of those we haven't had one in there for a few months. So the necessary assumption we're going under however the downside with those grinder pumps is it sounds great to put in system wide but you have created problems downstream at your waste water treatment plant because it drives things up in very small chunks then they increase the cost of the extreme process that's what we're trying to avoid it all that is so I'm making that problem across our system to go to sell ground pumps but it wasn't off shift we got a problem it comes up but that's the that's the licensure three basic project. So that up to five million dollars you're seeing will take care of the pumps and the lift station or just the pumps. No, no, no, take care of that time of basic. It'll take time for everything. Okay, that's the point. The licensure two, the licensure three, the licens 15. The plebosizing from two to three and including the force main. Okay. As long as nothing crazy happens and we've got no pen div and no answering thing and the frustration calls enough to where they're at. It's okay. Well, not 100% of the large portion of that and traditional capacity that we're having to deal with is kind of comparing the cost. We know that we can also demonstrate in a couple of four servings, please press for us. How's everybody feel about that as far as the rate increase for panic us in commercial? What's the timeline of what when you all want to put this uh maybe this spring? Yep. Do you know I personally like the approach. I mean, I think things that we can do to encourage it to fill the bell in. Yeah, since we're all dealing with a $60 million problem out here. And at the end of the day, the CD residents will be responsible for that. Not the canneres. I mean, we can put it in the very best pay-level. But if you know, it's put so much, much. We have to go out and get a revenue bar. There's still be all the backs in the ceiling. So, let's putting so much, when we have to go out and get a revenue bond, it's completely over the backs in the city. So, that's it. You might play the first year. We don't have to dive into this now. That would be curious. I mean, I felt like someone never gets talked about is the service area map that was done at some point. And how? 90s, you know, they did revisit that. What that, I mean, I find that always, somehow that's playing into where development's happened and how we decided on who's doing what. But we never get to hear that conversation never has happened since I've been on council. I was, you know, I was, didn't that for sure. What other information would you all like to see when we get ready to bring this? I just think some information on the extra cost, like what it cost us to serve the, I mean, if we're going to say, hey, we're increasing it from the county, we need to back that up, show, and the extra cost that it would cost enough. So we are only, I don't know why, say only, but because we have a family of dollar ready to do up to family dollar problem, but we will get $437,000 a year from this increase. Yeah, all on this increase. Is that just one like water and waste or is that water? Yeah, that's water and waste for the whole life.? Yeah, 112. Then that's based upon the scenario. So what I did was baseball and presenching increases and that's why I said I can show you which right now. That's not your favorite things like that. Well so I took last yourselves numbers and I was increasing baseball and that amount. Okay. So that's for a year, that's for a year right, for right full Toyota. Yes, but if he goes up and how long do we what we probably do this rollout and with the I mean I'm sorry how long will it take to probably do the water in the pipes over there. The first three? Yeah, so we only budgeted for half the project. We run out of loading for 2025 so the idea was to start the year. So we got half of the budget in 2025. So that's in there I guess like by around the day balance to go find the information, the balance and the idea was to start I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. the information, the balance, the interest of this idea, whether it's the start of the summer. And then we'll get about both of them. Yeah, OK. I'm trying to set off a little bit of the cost as well. So both stations are generators. And so that's about $4 billion there. We're going to try to plot for a grant for that. And try to make do with what we currently have. And so we're looking. We're looking. We're looking. You need a little bit more. You want to actually stop him and be here and let him do good work. Good man, Jonathan. I'll let him do it by hands. Yeah. Well, I'm not everyone. So this is our plan superintend Jonathan Clayton. He's the one who the their clips and welcome help together for us and keeps the server flowing and keep it treated. So if you want to give us a five minute. Sure. I don't know if you have this play words. You just make sure you have. Alright, so welcome to the West Lurking plant. Let's get you a towel suit. I've been here 15 years. I'm not super intended for that. So I've learned a lot from the yogurt river. It was here when I started and then GM Reddy, my balls. So I'll give you a brief description of how the water floats into the plant. So we're right here at the office in Comforts Room. So there's two lines that come into the plant. Gravity said one from up here down the drive and one from back behind the building and then both lie in right here in the parking lot. So they flow down through the preliminary section which is the bar screen grid grid collector moving trash and flotables. So when it goes through the grid collector, it's going to remove the same seal. It won't that flow into our plant and we'll remove that. So that goes out and goes to the landfill. So when it goes through the grid collector, then it goes to primary tanks. And those primary tanks remove any flotables grease that may accumulate this liquefied that may bind up together later which will remove the scum and the solids which will settle on the bottom of the primary clarifier. So once the solids settle out of the primary clarifier they were removed by strappers and into a sludge wheel which the sludge pump build will pump to the digesters. We have two anaerobic digesters, which means they have leads on them. So anaerobic, we control the temperature with a polar heat exchanger, and that keeps the bugs at a constant temperature, which keeps them breaking down that sludge. So sludge goes to the anaerobic digesters first, and then any excess sludge we go over here to the aerobic digestors, the aerobic meaning they the bacteria breathe air like facial or aquatic life. So we have a couple of mixers in there just kind of aerate in the water. So there, so if it gets cold, they slow down. If it is warmer in the summer, they speed up, start working good. So it's more like a 70, they're's more like 70 tanks so how do you set the tank works breaking down the solids which goes into your drain field then so we removed the solids after they settle out in the bottom with a belt press so as we'll walk out you can see the the dry sludge out serves that dry sludge will be put to a dumpster which goes to the landfill so we run run the belt press pulling sludge sludge out of the digesters about three times a month, maybe four thousand a week. Sometimes more of where the amount of rain that washes it more sewage into the plant. So the solids removed over here to the digesters. So after it leaves the primary tanks, the pump has pumps that back around the tripling filters, that starts the secondary treatment. Secondary biological treatment ever moving ammonia fast for us, stuff we don't want. That behind you is the world of tripling filters. Here they're brown, they're not turned in, so the algae dies off. So I want to make sure that they're turned in and getting water dripping over the rock, which throws the algae. This is the rocket at home for the algae to grow on. And there's bacteria at the end of the algae that are taking out what we don't want. So there's about six-foot deep self-rogged. It goes to a drain system. Once it drains down, it flows to the four tanks over here. We call them secondary holding tanks. So there are more or less just a holding tank. That the biological activity still happens. It's just floating in the water instead of on a big surface. So when it leaves the secondary tanks it flows over to an equalization basin. And that's basically a backup in case we have a big amount of water rushing through equalization. When it leaves the equalization basin gets another pump house, comes at backup heel over here, which is our aeration basin. So at this point, the bacteria are star for oxygen. So we have a blower building right here. And thatower building has two centrifugal blowers providing air for the aeriation basin and what that's going to do as the water flows through there the bacteria are going to breathe in that oxygen and we do test three three points and we want to make sure at the first point that the bacteria are taking all the oxygen in the middle point they're taking a little bit less and the third point they're taking the even less than the middle point. That just proves that the bloats are doing their breathing in the oxygen and the lit thriving. So the bacteria, the better bacteria thrive and are happy that more they're taking out this stuff would not want the phosphorus, the ammonia, the nitrogen. We're going to take that down to what the that the EVD recommends a I don't need this permit. So after the radiation basin it flows over to two final clarifiers. There also a couple of secondary clarifiers. Basically when it flows over here in the area, the basin is still in mid, we call it mid-slicker, it's stirred up, mixed up. So it looks like a chopstick color. So whenever it flows to the final flare bars it comes up in the middle flows out into a ring and that rings about 10 foot The tank is about 20 foot deep and that ring is to keep the solids that are floating that are mixed up Make some subtle out to the bottom So we have a deck, we don't want it to get more than two foot in the final cleric bars. And that's a good, good range. Basically, us all the bacteria, they'll settle out the bottom. And there's a pump station in the middle, which returns on bags with the airiation basin. So we want to grow our bugs and get them bacteria and get them the more the, order to get the more they're going to eat. I mean, obviously, a grown man needs more of the baby. So that's safe, breathable. So they're returned back along with the new bacteria that are coming in. And so yeah the pump returns back. The clear water flows over a weird on the outside end ring. So the final clarify and then out around the hill is gravity. This one is not on here, but it flows down and around to a sand filter. We have a deep bad sand filter which is going to remove even more of the suspended solids in there. So that the sand filter will remove those and put them back into the area, and back into the system to be removed again. When it goes to the sand filter, it goes to our chlorine contact chamber. In the chlorine contact chamber, we're going disinfect. We don't want to sterilize because sterilization you remove all the bacteria. There are good bacteria we want to keep in there. So we disinfect by adding sodium hyperchloride, which is a bleach. It's a little stronger than the household bleach. So it goes to the contact chamber, It's like a maze back and forth and it has contact time about 30 minutes. When it gets to the end, we put in a sulfur dioxide gas and that sulfur dioxide gas is going to take out before it leaves the plant and goes into the creek. So any questions? You know your job. I'm just listening to you, but you lost. I'm sorry. What are you doing? Right now, yes. Full, full MGD. Aboriginal. The only guy on the day is... Max Permed is 6.5. So a good thing, I'm thinking, no, is, like I said, we're at 6.5. So if we get 8 million to 10 million, flow into the plant, which last night we may have, we got the inch to three cores of the inch of rain. So it may have jacked up the flow. So if we get 8 million coming through the plant, it has to go through the secondary pump house and into our treatment filters, biological treatment, secondary biological treatment. That's a state requirement. If it goes out of, if it, if we lose our primary flow through here, we're in violation. So it has to go through the pump house and through secondary treatment. Once it goes through there and goes through these secondary tanks. We pull a gate at the back and it goes straight out and mixes where the treated the secondary tissue area treated water and we have a recording to it and we're still within apartment. It just goes out. It just goes through the creek. It's dirty but it's going to be forinated and it's removed the solids stillo steel, and it's removing some of the, some of the, it's getting some treatment, partial treatment. So basically, when we get more to 6.5, we pull the gate and it just mixes in and goes out. What's the most significant day of one of these? Have you ever been involved with them? I mean, even with hurricanes and stuff, 30 million. 30 million. That's one of the most important. It's only record of the 15, but our flow, digital flow meters, we can, you know, we have our bread around sheets that the operator uses, and they'll record what they see on there and up to 30 million, you know, 15 million each side of the Influent Channel. But yeah, so that's what happened to get on the grain a bit. Basically, they can't go through the rest of the plant, the Tissier Airport because if it goes through the irrigation basin that more than 6.5 and the clarifier is just going to wash out our solids because you got too much flow going through there and we want lose our bacteria bugs. They're gonna go over the weirder in the rounds of the sand filter and out And we don't want to lose our bacteria. So that's why we've pulled a gate at the end of the secondary so it can go out So y'all like compete with other ones like you that's the best bacteria We have other plants come to our plant to get bacteria to take them back to their plants. Wow. I mean, it's designed in such a way that we don't lose our bacteria. Now in my years here, that hasn't happened, but you can't have a toxic load come in, which will kill your bacteria or kill them back. And you just have to start back over or regenerate in young bacteria and grow them like returning them to the radiation. We take samples from the radiation and farm clarifiers every day and we test it in the lab to make sure our food and micro organism ratio is in check. Because if you get too many bugs bacteria, not enough food, they're gonna start to consume each other. They're all cell mass, so they're going to start dying out. But if you get too much food, which is nutrients, not enough bacteria, then you're going to start losing it over the final firefighters going through to the plant to our effluent when we collect the sample and then you'll see it in our sample. About 10 years ago, we had an industrial customer all take,ap I don't know if you remember them, but they were basically Discharges and they were taking corn byproducts and but they were putting off at our in the sewer Discharges basically boom-chang Yeah, and it was coming out here getting to the plant and killing killing and first of all getting the boat drunk And it's actually killing them and so we had to shut him down because they were destroyed the plan. And they went home. They actually went up to shut that plan down the booth because they didn't figure out how to. They didn't get in permit or compliance with us. So they're going to drop. Yes, so we're book formers, book figure formers. Keeping it in a rock ratio and they do their job. The goal was they're happy to keep the limits down. We're good. If anybody's interested, we can just let the pool walk through. Yeah, we're good. Yeah, I'm going to. I got to. Before you get out of here, thank you to the ones that are going to be able to do the date the capital of I'm waiting on the final schedule for that. As soon as I get it, I'll share it with you all, but tentatively they've got reservations for dinner that wins, stay not. going to be able to do the date, the capital of I'm waiting on the final schedule for that. The students I get it I'll share you all but tentatively they've got reservations for dinner that Wednesday night and then individual meetings set up with our legislators and they are working out to also do a photo off presentation from the Dunkiners. So remind me who all get well of different groups are we meeting with? So it should be Sam Watson, Darling Taylor and Chas Cannon. And then they are also looking at trying to set us up with the Georgia Department of Economic Development DCA. DOT. There's one other one. So we're, we're, they're confirming all of that and we'll get it out to you. I asked for it. I'm hopeful I'll have it this week. Excuse me. Good. So we've got a group of eight going now. So, good to you. Yes, and good. All right. I'm glad you're the host's friend. Yeah, all the day. Thank you. Thank you. We don't get out of here much, and we don't see any people. So then we have two words coming in. We have one more for the local orientation coming through. Bigest goal for it's two. We have a school coming through, slightly in the month. So then we have so we're coming in we have one more for the glory Coming for him. Yeah, they the school for it's too. We have a school coming for Flitering the months It's always true kids love party. Oh, that was yeah, it's not like why this little here and how it works They think it's just tears Right. Yeah, you just told it this guy on and people need to know that because in addition to the mock heads We often have problems have problems with fireball. Fireball. What? Little mini fireball bonds? That might be me, sorry. Well, it's called dodge. I'm all stuck. And on a funny note, when you said, you know, we don't get out of here much. It took me right back to Independence Day when the, I don't know if you all have ever seen that. When they go underground to Area 51. And the scientists said, you know, we don't get out of here much. I'll say. That's fine. Oh, that's just funny. Thanks, John. Yes, ma'am. I think that's all the crap. I'm going to talk about it. it.