Mayor, we're recording. Welcome, everyone. I'd like to call this meeting of the John Scree City Council to order this Monday September 9th, 2024 at 713-VM. Thank you. At the somehow call roll. Please. Councillor Maroon Choukey. Here. Councillor Member Schenner. Here. Councillor Member Erimelli. Present. Councillor Member Kaufman. Adam Clerk, I'm present. Excellent. Councillor Member DiBiasi. Here. Councillor Member Elwood. DBLC? Here. Councilmember L. Wood. Thank you. At this time, I'd like to invite our student leadership from Dolvin to come forward and lead us in the pledge. Maybe tell us your names first at the microphone before you start. I'm Kendall. I'm Shreya. I'm Noel. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God and the visible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, ladies. That's great. Thank you. Mayors or marks? Yeah, before I get started, I just wanted to point out so we had our invocation by our Chaplain, Michael McCullors, and he has had quite a lengthy career in this role and is a sought after resource in times of bereavement. He was actually featured very prominently in the AJC recently, and they did just a fantastic write-up on his history of really being there for people, really, their most dark time. And it was a very touching article. And so Michael, I don't know if you can hear me, but congratulations on the article. And thank you for all that you do for the City of John's Creek. All right, with that, just very briefly, the Summer Concert Series is wrapping up for the season. We have enjoyed some phenomenal bands all summer long. The last concert will be the John's Creek Symphony Orchestra performing K-Pop hits on October 5th at 7pm. And I don't know if you got chance to be at the concert this weekend. I heard great things about it. Unfortunately, I was, my wife and I really wanted to go, but unfortunately we couldn't be there, but I heard it was fantastic. So if you've never gotten a chance to go to any of these concerts and encourage you to do so. For more concert information and other city events, you can go to our website, that's johnscreakga.gov. And one last thing is a somewhat personal item. I am going to be hosting a town hall and just want to invite any members of the public to come out if you'd like to have a conversation. I'm going to do that Sunday, October 6, that same weekend as the concert at 4 p.m. at Finley Oaks Elementary School. And so just whatever you might want to come and talk about, I'm all ears. So that is where I've got an announcement. Yes. So I just wanted to let everyone know as a reminder, this Wednesday, it's special day, it's special week, it's 9-11. And the city will have a memorial service at Newtown Park at bright and early 8-30 in the morning. And tell your friends, it's a great event, there will be a lot of people there and I encourage everyone to show up. It's about 20 plus years and I think it would be very nice. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right, that's it. Next item. Thank you. The next item is the meeting minutes. You have August 19th work session summary and council meeting minutes before you. Any motions? Mayor, I would like to make a motion to approve the meeting minutes like both for work session and council meeting as presented. Okay, thank you Mayor Prodice. Mr. Second. Second that. Thank you. Councilmember L Wood. Is there a discussion? Seeing none, all is in favor. All right. Thank you. The next item is approval of the meeting agenda this evening. I make a motion to approve the meeting agenda as presented to us. All right. Thank you. Councillor Armel. Is there a second? I'll second that. Is that Councillor Armel? No, okay. Thank you for the second and discussion. Seeing none, all is in favor. Next item. Thank you, Mayor. The next item is a consent agenda. There are two items. two items ordinance 25920 This is an ordinance to amend the fiscal year 24 budget and there's an action item to approve an intergovernmental agreement with Versailles County for the McGinnis very road riding project Did you say item G1? Yes sir. It was ordinance 25920 to amend the fiscal year 24 budget. Okay. Great. All right. That's the consent agenda. Do you have any motions? Yes, Mayor. I would like to make a motion to approve the consent I would not as presented. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tem. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Councillor Armelie. Is there a discussion? Yes, Mayor. Sorry. Go ahead. No, the G2, the IGA with the four-site county, it's a great partnership with the four-site county G. And the residents have been waiting for this project for quite a few years. So looking forward to getting this started and looking for that great partnership. So that's an example that shows that intergovernmental collaboration on big projects like this is a great example. Great point. I would like to add, so this project basically starts from Sargent Road all the way to exit 13, exit 12. So our share is part of it. The point which I want to make is this project started in 2015 at a cost of $36 million. Today it is $110 million and scouting. I hope next time you sit there ask us why it's been delayed so much. But the point is it is a very, very badly needed project. It is 55% over the capacity, the traffic which passed that way. And because of that, even our Jones Creek, that gets clogged up. So this is a very critical project as my colleague mentioned. But keep in mind that hopefully you'll see why we have these delays and that should really be bothering you. Thank you. That's Mark. I've got a quick comment on G2 also on the approval of this this this agreement, the widening of McGuinness Ferry. I'm hoping and we'll see public works has done a great job with this and negotiating with Forsyth County and Al Faretta. I am hoping that some of the traffic that literally comes through Fulton County, John's Creek and into Fulton County as we are a lot of people talk to us as a pass through city. I'm hoping that some of this traffic now will be diverted to the new interchange at 400. So some people coming down from coming in Forsyth County will make a left, make a right, excuse me, and we'll be hitting 400 going south. So alleviate some traffic in John's Creek. So like my colleague said, this is well overdue, it's expensive. It's complicated with all the other groups and counties and cities involved. But we're here and 100% in on this project. Thank you. Just add a little context and shout out to staff. So this project was actually one of the catalysts for me to get involved more with the city. The first iteration of the project, I will say, was not necessarily John's Creek friendly. It had 40 foot medians, a very substantial taking of the property along the McGuinness Fair border there on John's Creek, commend staff and the residents voicing their concerns and I will say it turned into an excellent part I wouldn't even say a partnership a number of governmental entities collaborating on what's in the best interest as a whole and for each locality. So what turned what I thought I'd be voting no forever on into a much better project through collaboration and being vocal about what our needs and desires are. So that's it. What are needs and desires are so that's it? Very good All right Anybody else? Are we ready to take a vote? All right, all those in favor sound Jenna all right? Fascinating. Next time. Thank you mayor if you want to come down the first item on the presentations is a recognition of a girl scout a gold award recipient Trish if you want to come forward among the presentations is a recognition of a Gold Award recipient. Trish, if you want to come forward? I'm given this sheet to read then I'll come back to the background on where the project all started. Trisha is a senior at Northview High School where she's part of a marching band. She's been in girls caught for over 10 years and also earned the bronze award in middle school by earning money for Drake House. She plans to major in political science or public policy. Good one. So, Trisha came to my office back in January with this idea of the problem on the outdoor pet sales. So we talked at length. Then I realized, she did a lot of homework even before she came to meet me. Like, what is the problem and what the other cities and counties are doing? I said, she wanted some help from the public office saying that, okay, how can we do that? So I said, okay, fine, I'll try, but you know how things work, it takes time. So, but with the help of the council and the mayor, we were able to move it pretty fast and got it approved. And she did all the back-end work and great one. Thank you. Congratulation. So. Now I'm going to read the certificate, Certificate of Regulation. This Certificate is awarded to Treesha Gundogulu in recognition of for outstanding achievement and exceptional leadership ability evidenced by attainment of the girls' court-gold award. Congratulations. Your achievement is a great source of great pride and admiration for the citizens of John's Creek, the mayor and council attend their congratulations and commend you for your continued dedication to the John's Creek. So thank you for all the hard work. So congratulations. Thank you. Come on. I'm always taking more pictures. So for my like councilman, Tonki mentioned a little bit. My project was like proposing an ordinance that would prohibit the outdoor sales of cats, dogs and like rabbits. So some of the three main animals that are being sold in like parking lots and flea markets and other undisclosed locations. And this is where a lot of backyard breeders and commercial pet mills make a lot of their profit off of and thrive. And there is currently in Georgia no statewide legislation that prohibits that. So my project was kind of trying to keep that out of John's Creek since that's not really an issue here. But the effect that this has is that for other cities in Fulton County and especially for Atlanta, I think Alfa Reda is already looking to pass this in other cities. So this is going to put pressure on Atlanta where the issue is the biggest for the state of Georgia. And I do have some acknowledgments I would like to read. So these two people are not here right now, but I would like to recognize Debra Berger, who is the former Georgia representative for the Humane Society of the United States, and also Peggy McCarthy, who is a member of the Board of Directors at the Georgia Pecool Coalition. These two women were my project advisors for my Gold Award project and helped me so much with every step of the way for my project. From providing me the resources that I was able to take to Councilman Tunky in January. And also helping me organize a workshop that I held in June for animal welfare where I was able to educate other Girl Scouts in my community and other community members in John's Creek about animal welfare issues on our state. And then I would also like to thank Councilman Tunky for meeting with me in January, listening to my concerns and bringing it before the entire council. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. my mom for all the time and energy she put towards my project for her advice and the continued support that she's given me, throughout my entire life, without which I couldn't have come this far. So yeah, thank you all. Come in, Jack. One last. One, two, three. Good job. So one other thing I want to mention is I do have some like extra bags take home gifts from my workshop that have some resources and like they're like cute little canvas bags from the Humane Society of the United States. I'm going to be leaving them at the table right there, so take as many as you like, share them with friends, families, and thank you. Thank you. This is Kalea's advance accreditation and state certification this evening. Right. So this summer, the John's Creek Police Department was accredited through the commission on accreditation of law enforcement agencies or Kalea for the fifth time. Kalea accreditation requires an agency to have written policies covering over 450 nationally recognized standards for best practices in law enforcement. And it's more than just adopting policies. They have to also ensure that to the person we are following those policies and documenting that. So of the roughly 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the country, less than 4% are accredited. The Johns Creek Police Department is not just accredited. They received advanced accreditation, which puts them in an elite group of top departments. Also this summer, they completed the recertification process through the Georgia Association of Chiefs of Police. State certification has a lot of parallels to Kalea, the accreditation process, but it also includes things that are specific to Georgia law. So both are really significant accomplishments. And I want to let Chief Mitchell and the team that was responsible for this come up, have Chief Mitchell add a couple of comments and recognize the people that really made this possible. So. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, City Manager, Ms. Greer. I just want to make a couple of recognitions based on us receiving both state certification and Clea. If I can have Ms. Valerie Johnson, our accreditation manager, step forward real quick. She is the driving force and really the backbone of our certification and our state, our accreditation excuse me, and our state certification program. I tell you, people don't realize how hard it is to maintain the files and ensure just the follow-ups and all the proofs. She's got a strain pretty well. I'm trained if I get something that comes in as an email or someone comes in and talks to me or I get some paperwork, I'm like, I bet that's a proof. So I just want to really publicly recognize Val and thank her for all of her hard work. First with our state certification program, which present this to her. She's got enough, you got two, and you're good. So that's certification. And this is from the, or Kalea Creditations, sort of certificate appreciation for Miss Fowl Johnson. Just really as an expression of the gratitude of our contribute contribution, excuse me, to law enforcement accreditation program as accreditation manager dated June 15th, 24 or so. Congratulations, Bob. Thank you. I have one more real quick and we received our state certification and our clear accreditation and it's not because of me and yes it's a direct result of what Vow does every single day but it's a even more direct result by the men and women who serve our city. And we are charged to strategically police and protect our city. That's our number one job. We're charged to maintain the professionalism of our organization for the citizens we serve and protect the rights of all that we engage with every day. We also are charged with building public trust and partnerships. And lastly, our officers do it the right way. If you ever had contact with men and women, the professional women and women in our organization. And the reason we're successful is because the men and women, the hardworking men and women who serve in our organization. We just changed our mission statement to making, it's simply making a difference. And it's what it means to the officer that what they got into the reason and their passion and purpose of the reason they got into law enforcement. Their personal purpose and the reason they make a difference. But also we have an organizational purpose of making a difference with each contact that we have every day. So I humbly accept this from Kalea, but I accept it on behalf of the hard working men and women and the best police department. Humbly I say this in our state and across our country so thank you. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. Thank you. It's time for public comment and I have Dr. Shandra. He also brought some presentations all past'll pass that out, Vice, on his way up. Thank you so much for- Thank you, Mayor Barbery and also the council members. It is a great privilege and honor to present our ideas regarding this golf. In fact, I think my name is Dr. Namaz Chandra, I retired by a medical engineering professor who just desired to settle in John's Creek for it is one of the best places to settle and I want to make this even better. And the first page of this is ideas of what a disc golf is. Disc golf is a combination of Frisbee, but I've seen this, just go back and throw it and then golf. The golf, you have the same type of scores and everything. So this golf allows us to fast outdoor activities because usually it is there inside the woods across rivers and also across ponds and can be designed such that place outside. And it follows the similar ideas of God from terms of scoring in terms of holes, paths and in terms of eagle, birdie and other stuff. And we have disc golf courses about 4,000 in this country almost all run by city governments and out of this our neighborhoods for example we have one in Roswell, Alfred Tusson in everywhere around that and not one in John's Creek. And that's what I think I'm hoping that I think this conversations that my talk can help the council make. Second of the ideas of the benefit of this call. It attracts both old and young people. And also I think it's just, this is a call that you use. It's only $10. So it's not that big of a problem. Anywhere but in one to 10 places can play and throw the day can be available as long as the park is available. And so for our 18-course course, it requires, I mean, our idea was to use Cali Creek as a launching area where I think we can design and have a discount there. We need professional designers who can come and design this particular course. And once they design it, the maintenance is very less in this particular case, it's just more, for example. Based on my limited web analysis, I found that the costs are around 20, 40, 30K and it is not anything more. And moving forward, I suggest that the council, along with the mayor, think about the idea of hiring a co-s designer either directly or talk to our neighboring counties where they have gone through these particular one cities and then employ them and make a colleaguery a disc golf place. And there are many people here that have come here also who interested in disc golf and thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. I have no further cards at this time. Would anyone else like to speak? Anybody? Thank you. Is there a question for the calls like that? Dr. So we had disc golf in phase one plus of Collie Creek and it was unfortunately in government dollars so it was six figures but I can't recall if that was punted to phase two. So there are plans for Colleague Creek, disc golf, but I'm not 100% on timeline of when that will be built out. But there are plans. So are the professional designers come on, given an estimate of what it can, where it can be done and how it should cost? That is the first step in my opinion. Yeah, thank you. Can I ask you to follow up with our city manager because we can't do back and forth from public comment? Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Schandra. Additional? Sure. Good evening, Mayor and City Council. My name is Ronald Sullivan. I'm a member of the Lexington Woods subdivision. And I'd like to speak just briefly about the issue with stream bank erosion. I believe it's an issue that probably a number of people at other developments at other places in John's Creek are facing. So I'd like to see if we can get some input and some help from the city council. This is something that we've noticed. I've been in the subdivision for about 16 years. And as time goes on, you see erosion from the sides of the stream. When we look at the problem, we realize that it's a serious problem. Because as time goes on, it gets worse. Trees are falling. They're falling into the other development, they're falling on our side. And of course it presents a danger to the house and a danger to the people who live there, live nearby. So I'm basically asking the City Council if you can take a look at our issue, our problem, and at more, you know, in greater detail. Funds to fix it. I know there are certain specific rules that prohibit development in that area, from the center of the stream going out 75 feet. I believe that's what the rule is. A neighbor of mine, Mr. Van Ryley, he brought in someone to do an analysis of the possible mitigations that you can take. And they came up with three different solutions. All of them cost 50 to $60,000. That is not something that the average homeowner can handle. So what can the city council do? Perhaps there you can see about the easing of the rules. I know that you're not supposed to bring any heavy duty equipment on the property to work on that problem. So if we're going to fix it with stones or whatever, you know logs or whatever, we have to actually physically lift it. And that is really not workable. They may be material that's available from developers, they have left over material. Perhaps that's something we can use that would help the homeowner. So basically it's a matter of what the City Council can look at and perhaps you can ease the rules and perhaps you can help us to come up with a solution. That's it. Thank you. and perhaps you can help us to come over the solution. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Could we maybe get him some information about something we got or talking about in the somewhat distant future? Anybody else? Seeing none, Next item. Thank you, Mayor of the seat. Oh, I'm sorry. There are a number of homes that are affected by this. You state your name for the record. Sorry. Travel in Sullivan. 5285, Lexington, Wood's Lane. I guess there are a number of us have planned to be here tonight coming to represent their own individual homes. We're not the only ones. So I mean, Kathleen is my next-door neighbor. I guess she doesn't have to come because she's asking the same question. Trees have fallen from the next yard behind us into her yard, and people are concerned about her tree falling into the yard. The back is eroding, and you can see it dropping so much so that it's a danger to children. So we really need to get some help because each homeowner cannot, but that figure of 50 to 60 was taken five years ago. That cannot be the cost now. And that cannot be a cost that the homeowner can bear. And I would encourage you to, I think Mr. Greer is getting with him to share some information. All right, thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? I'm just leaving for our item. Yes. Yes. Next. Next time. Thank you, Mayor. This evening we have nothing under reports. I have just a few announcements. Our planning commission will meet tomorrow at 7 p.m. The Arts Culture and Entertainment Committee meeting this is canceled for this month. Our Board of Zoning Appeals will meet Tuesday the 17th at 7 p.m. Our Recreation and Parks Advisory Committee will meet Wednesday the 18th at 6.30 p.m. And then we're back here on September 30th for a 5 p.m. work session in a 7 p.m. And then we're back here on September 30th for 5 p.m. work session and a 7 p.m. council meeting. All right fantastic thank you any other announcements? All right next item. Thank you we have nothing under old business the first item of new business is ordinance 24921 this is a public hearing and consideration of an ordinance to adopt the fiscal year 25 budget. We have director Campbell for presentation. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Excuse me, so the second public hearing tonight for the benefit of those that are viewing this online. A copy of the 2025 budget, as proposed, can be found on the city's website. Excuse me, ask the general across the top where it says departments. If you locate finance, then within the finance there is a tab that says budget icon. If you click on that, all of the information that we're talking and reviewing tonight is available there. So as we start this second public hearing, we start with this slide, which illustrates the importance of the budget process. The budget, as adopted, then becomes our communications tool, not only to residents, but to staff also. It represents the spending plan for the city for the upcoming fiscal year. It allows us to monitor our progress and to benchmark against established milestones. And lastly, it provides the opportunity for a game plan for financial security, or I would say financial success as well. Budget development process is described on this slide. We started this several months ago. Departments submitted all of their requests for the FY 2025 budget process into the city's Munis ERP system. Those requests were consolidated into an initial draft budget. The finance department then worked with the city manager's office to reconcile that budget within the fiscal constraints of projected revenues. The mayor then worked with the city manager to prepare his version of the proposed budget. And that budget was shared with the council on July the 8th in a work session. Since then we've reviewed the budget in work sessions on July 29th, August 9th, as well as August 19th. And feedback from each of those sessions has been reflected in the budget that is presented tonight. The last step of the process would be the second public hearing and then the consideration of the adopted budget for the upcoming fiscal year. On this slide, I talk about the FY 2025 proposed budget is a balanced budget, tolling 79,971,841 in general fund revenues and expenditures. In comparison to the current year budget 2024. It's about a 1% increase. And the two largest general fund revenues continue to be local option sales tax, as well as property tax. And collectively, those provide about 65% of the general fund revenue base. The general fund expenditures can be broadly characterized as personnel, or about 63% and then non personnel is the remaining 37%. In addition, you will see in the ordinance there are additional other funds that collectively provide 27 million, 192,051 as a part of the FY 2025 proposed budget. Focusing on this slide again, when we talk about the general fund budget, 62 million 976, 865 is the total for personnel and non personnel. Then the next category of general fund transfers, totals 16 million994,978, and those categories represent any capital or enhancements projects that we have for the upcoming year, as well as allocations that are made to our cruel funds. And this year there is an additional category, about 8% going to other funds that I'll detail a little bit later in the presentation. And then again reminding you the 27 million in other funds that are also a part of this proposed budget. The budget message remains namely the same as what was presented back in July. That is available on the city's website and the original document that was shared July the 8th. And then the budget highlights. When we talk about highlights operations, it provides funding for the 15 departments within the city. And aside from just reflecting base operations, we are also providing for five new positions in the police department that were all outlined in the police department multi year plan that was presented in spring of 2024, as well as two positions within municipal court, as well as the insourcing of probation services, which are anticipated to improve customer services and to reduce recidicism going forward. The budget also includes capital projects tillting 8.8 million. The largest investment would be the fire station number 63, police substation funding tilting 7.3 million. And then new police vehicles for the positions that we are proposing as a part of the FY 2025 budget are also included in that total. Another highlight of the budget are transportation projects, almost 14 million in T-splot funded projects will be taken as a part of the FY 2025 budget process. And then an additional 14 public safety vehicles are scheduled for replacement from our vehicle replacement fund in the FY 2025 budget. Financial details presenting the $79,971 in a pie chart format. I alluded to this earlier when you look at the general fund revenues. Local option sales tax is about 35% of the budget or 27.5 million being forecasted for the upcoming fiscal year. And then property tax is the second highest revenue source budgeted at 23.4 million for the upcoming fiscal year. When you look at this chart, the revenue, the top 10 revenue sources between FY 23 and 2025, shows you for FY 23, our total revenues were around 70 million. We're estimating to end this current fiscal year around 72.4 million and fiscal year 25 we're forecasting 73 million for the upcoming fiscal year. There we go. Journal fund expenditures are being reflected by chart here. Again, two broad categories when you look at the operating budget and operating transfer personnel, about 50% or 39.7 million of the general fund budget and then non-personnel is the 29% or 23.2 million of the general fund budget. Operating transfers are also shown on this slide. Capital enhancements will provide about 8.11% of the FY 2025 budget. And then vehicle replacement accrual is about 2% or 2.2 million being set aside for the upcoming fiscal year. On this slide, I show you the General Fund expenditures. Comparing fiscal year's 23 to 25, fiscal year 23, we ended with General Fund expenditures totaling 78.9 million projected to end this current fiscal year at 77.5 and then proposed for the upcoming year at 80 million in general fund expenditures. This slide shows you again the general fund broken by department. You see on here the two largest pieces of the pie are police at 28% and then fire at 25%. Public safety accounts for about 53% of the overall general fund expenditures. The next largest department would be public works at 11% and then collectively all of the remaining departments account for the 36% of the pie. This next slide shows you the general fund department expenditures trends between fiscal year 23 and 25. You can see on a department level, they're all pretty level over the past three years and the budget document that's found online, there is detailed information for every expenditure increase a thousand and over explained in each of the department notables. On this next slide we show the advancement of capital enhancements for the upcoming fiscal year, about 11% of the general fund or 8.5 million. The projects that are being proposed in fiscal year 2025, I've already mentioned the fire station, number 63 police substation funding of 7.3 million. That along with funding that is earmarked from a projected surplus in 2024 and funds that have been previously allocated provide full funding for the fire station number 63 replacement. Also we have then the additional five new police vehicles for the positions that are being proposed as a part of the FY 2025 budget. There's also a wellness initiative as well as additional parking for Callie Creek Courts area at 300,000, and then the Stormwater Grant Program 422,000. These were feedback that was given in the last work session to include that as a part of the FY 2025 proposed budget. We were asked to provide again the, keep doing that, there we go. The personnel that are being funded as a part of the FY 2025 budget, we've broken it out for you in this slide. The community oriented police officer to crime suppression officers, a police officer detective position, an intelligence officer position, and then the probation manager and the probation officer, again reflecting the insourcing of probation in this upcoming fiscal year. When we then move to the next slide, which is our cruel funds, we're putting in 7 million towards the accrual funds, the infrastructure maintenance accrual, 3.3 million going in FY 2025, 1.6 million towards the equipmentrual funds, the infrastructure maintenance accrual, 3.3 million going it in FY 2025. 1.6 million towards the equipment accrual and 2.2 million towards the vehicle replacement accrual. Again, this was an increase of 700,000 that was a directive that was given in the last work session to include that as a part of the FY 2025 budget as well. On this next slide then we show for you the projects that are being proposed out of the accrual funds. There we go. Projects to link eight million are coming out of the infrastructure accrual fund and you say well you're putting in 3.3 how are you spending eight million. We're drawing down an existing fund balance of funds that were put in in previous years? And that is the purpose of the accrual fund, that when you then have an expenditure, you already have the funds set aside for the project that you are undertaking. We've highlighted for you on this slide again, it's in those broad categories, roads and right away, continued investment, 3.6 million in the upcoming fiscal year, 400,000 for sidewalks and trails, 250,000 for traffic signal systems, 2.7 million in parks, and then 615 million, I'm sorry, 615,000 in fire station repairs, station, fire station number 61 repair, as well as a fire station alerting system, and then 450,000 for some necessary building repair and maintenance items here at City Hall. This next slide shows you the equipment accrual fund, 1.6 million is being set aside in fiscal year 2025, and then it lists the projects that are being proposed as a part of the FY 2025 budget, totaling 1.3 million. Police equipment is 764,000 of that total. Fire equipment is 263,000 of that total, and then information technology is the remaining 320,000 of that total. I already mentioned on this next slide, the vehicle replacement accrual fund. We're putting in 2.2 million and we have proposed 14 vehicles that are scheduled replacement for the police vehicles coming out, tilting a little over a million dollars in the FY 2025 budget. Sorry. There we go. Other funds. On this slide we highlight for you the other funds that are included in the budget ordinance that will be proposed for adoption tonight. All of the funds reflect current year revenues as well as expenditures. We've included this slide. The T-splotced expenditures as well because that is the requested funding for T-splot 2 in the upcoming fiscal year. That brings me then to the end of the presentation from the public hearing. Tonight is the second public hearing, and then there is the recommended action, the consideration and adoption of the FY 2025 budget, as detailed in your agenda report with the related ordinance. Thank you, Director Campbell. Thank you. Thank you. At this time, I'd like to open the public hearing on the 2025 budget for the city. All those wishing to speak, on this matter, please come forward. You have 10 minutes. It's like a stampede. Anybody? You can say anything you want about the budget? Pro, Con? Last chance. All right, seeing none, I'll close the public hearing, Council forgers. But I would like to discuss some allocations. Sure. Okay, so I know I emailed you all the first one. The $2,500 for student leadership, John's Creek. That was funded in fiscal year 22 and 23 through the city manager's office from the D's and Fees line item. I was going to ask that we reallocate or allocate that and add it as a line item in this year's budget. And I know last year I advocated for funding for One John's Creek, and they've been able to do great things and expand their program and help youth, and a lot of that help came from the student leadership volunteers. So I think their program has a forced multiplier and it pays the city back more 10 fold to the $2,500 that we're spending and I know we also use them to help out when we have special events we call them up and the kids are always there to help. So to not fund that program will just cause them yes to find the funding elsewhere, but I'm more concerned about the message it will send to the students. So I'm asking for, that's the first item, $2,500 for student leadership, John's Creek. Would you like me to go on with the rest? Yeah. Okay. I think we'll take it all. Take it all. Take it all. All right all. Take it all. All right, if you're ready. The other one is, if we do not have a dedicated line item for permanent field striping of a multiuse field in Collie Creek, I would love to add one. Permanent striping and goals in posts. And I don't know if, you know, that's already in there as a line item and just hasn't been accomplished or if it's not in there. If it's not, I would love that we could perhaps put $100,000 towards that. And then the fourth thing I was hoping, my colleagues would agree that since the Martin Luther King, breakfast that the mayor had was so successful. Instead this year, we don't use the $5,000 towards that and that we get out there as a team and volunteer in the city as our way to give back and then we could put that money back into the general fund. And then lastly, and this just didn't occur to me until lately. I don't, I know none of us want to violate the charter. And so I think we either have to give the executive assistant to the city manager of $4,800 car allowance or we'll have to remove that from the manager of the office of the mayor so that we are following the charter. So those are my only recommended additions and subtractions. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you for the motion. What's an emotion? It was just a discussion. Okay. Sorry. All right. Anybody want to follow up? Do you have a dollar figure on the last item? It was $4800. Okay. And... Okay. All right. I was thinking in also some allotment since this gentleman who came and talked about this golf, I did some research and found out about 386,000 people played disc golf in Georgia. And if all our surrounding cities do have it, maybe we can allocate about 25,000 just to design this. We have the land, we have the, and it's a low hanging fruit. If you can, about 25,000 towards design of this disc golf course. In addition to what Ms. Skinner suggested. So when I was doing this also some calculations here, last in the last conversation with the budget, we had allocated 372,067 into unallocated funds, and unassigned fund balance. And so now that we saved money with the medical insurance, we have an additional 545,910. And so putting a total of 917,977 into the general fund unassigned fund balance. I think was a little bit too much. I think so I would also agree with 100% John's Creek leadership is such a great and shining star that we have in our city and it propels high school kids and just where they go from that, I would never want to take anything away from them. And in fact, I think a line item in the budget so that there can be some planned growth in the future for this. 2500 honestly seems a little low. I like the little higher, but I'm going to, you know, the ask was for 2500 and I think that's very reasonable. Also, I'm not sure about the paint striping. I know at one point in time the football has been back and forth a couple times. We went with basically spray painting football, to spraying the fields with the lines and the markers for football and they don't last. And we went back and forth on the permanent striping. I know there's conversations about whether it's justified or not. But as a placeholder, I think we should allocate 100,000 for that also to just finally do it and get it done. You know, and speaking to city manager Greer today, I understand that we have actually purchased those field goals like we had planned on doing it, but we never installed them yet. So understand why I get it, but I think we need to finish what we started with the field, with the stripe of the fields. And finally, the vehicle replacement of cruel fund, we were in a sort of a negative position with that only because we reevaluated the cost of vehicles. And so we put money 700,000 I believe towards that in our budget conversations, but we're still behind the eight ball there. So I would like to put at least $100,000 towards that vehicle accrual also. We're just saving the money for next year, we're going to have this conversation again. At least we start off at a higher amount. The cars we had estimated the cars at about $45,000 for a vehicle police cars. They're actually about $80,000 fully equipped. So we were just calculating it wrong, so now we have to make up for that. I think that's about it right now as far as that's all for now. No. I would like to make a motion to approve item M1 ordinance 2040921, the ordinance to adopt the fiscal year 2025 budget as presented by staff. Thank you for the motion. Councillor Moura-Ellett, is there a second? Second. Thank you for the motion. Councilmember Elwood, is there a second? Second. Thank you, Councilmember Kaufflin. Discussion? I think we've spent a long time with the budget. As far as some of these issues that were raised by my colleagues this evening, I think they're very worthy issues that weren't for their discussion. As my council member, my right here mentioned, we have a larger than expected amount that we will be able to allocate to the unassigned fund balance. So as we work through these issues with due consideration and making proper decisions on them, we can, we will have the funding available to fund these items, but they haven't been briefed. We haven't looked through them with greater detail, they haven't been briefed. We haven't looked through them with greater detail. They haven't been vetted by staff. As far as the release of student leadership, John's Creek, I know there's been a lot of conversation in the community and I definitely do not want this excuse me. I definitely do not want the students to think that we do not support them. However, in comparison, when we funded when John's Creek, we entered into a memorandum of understanding to understand what were the boundaries and the duties on either side. And so I think that we need to hurry up and try to get that document in place so that we can then fund them in an appropriate amount, whether it's 2500 or some other number. But it's very clear what the nature of the relationship is and that it's not left hanging to the discretion of council each year, the way that it had been the last years, as it was actually not the discretion of council, it was in the city manager budget, in a discretionary fund. So I mean, I think we're actually going to do one better for them by entering into a memorandum of understanding and formalizing the nature of that agreement. And then for the MLK Day service project, love it, we totally should do it. The only thing is that we're going to need to buy donuts and coffee and everything for the volunteers. So like leaving some funding in there while we figure out what that, um, that looks like I think is appropriate. That's everything. Okay. All right. Anybody else? Well, we're with the weather's an amendment. There's a motion and a second. Um, yeah, go ahead. You can go ahead. No, I's a motion and a second. So, Chris, this is the issue. Yeah, but go ahead, you can go ahead. No, I was going to amend the motion. I was going to just say, I'm going to support the budget as is not dismissing the additions or discussion, but we did agree to get any changes to Ronnie at the last meeting. And so, again, just like the expenditure policy, I don't think it's smart for us to red line things make adjustments at this point, if it would have been done. August 19th, what have supported it? Or may have supported it. Let me take it back there. But yeah, in terms of pushing this to unassigned reserve balance, the rationale that you all gave to raise or military or excuse me, keep the military the same. Raise our property taxes was the triple aid credit rating. Gentlemen, it came in spoke. Royce is dead bright. If that's the rationale to retain your AAA credit rating, you need to put those funds in an assigned and let's not look for ways to expend it. Because then I don't necessarily believe the rationale that the AAA credit rating would hold through. So I'm going to support the budget as is. I do believe we need to have MOUs and agreements for things that we expend on. Love student leadership, John's Creek. And I would challenge council to make up that gap in funding. But I don't think it's smart to make whimsical adjustments without data that justify it on the budget. So I'm all supported as is, even though not 100% satisfied with the result, but it's compromised. I think Mayor Perot, I'm one to speak. Thank you, Mayor. I'll be supporting this motion for a couple of reasons. One, we've been going back and forward with the discussions for the last couple of months. And today is the day of approving it and a lot of these items were brought up in the within today. So we need to, all those items are good and we should definitely deeper into those things. But again, the funds are going into UNICEF and fund balance. So if there is a need to fund it for these projects, like once the city staff does more research and even we get more time to evaluate those. We can always have an amendment to move the fronts from the on the same fund balance back to the any of these projects. So coming to the student leadership, John Screek, it's a great program. It's like it adds a lot of value and it definitely needs a more structured framework. So last couple of years, we've been, the funding has been done in an unconventional way. It's like without any formal agreement or a partnership with them. So they're a great organization adding value to the city. So we should come back, respect that, and have a formal agreement where people spell out, what is that city is going to be providing them? And what do we expect in return from that organization? So why tie it down for $2,500 or something? work on the partnership and the framework that can come back and we can always make that budget amendment and move the funds like our city manager like would come back and Maybe she will find a way to fund those things but again, I would rather have the framework in place Not repeat the same mistake we did in the last two years We don't expect that organization to come back every year asking for those funds. Let's have a framework for the multi-year that we, even for them, it's better to plan and set their goals for the next few years. So I definitely support that. But let's have that framework in place before we really come back and say here is what the dollar amount. Like the council member, D.V. as he said, maybe we would like to see more. So why put a dollar amount now? Let's work on the partnership and then identify the value that we are adding. Because as of now, we are still providing those government desks. It's not really physically money, but there's a staff time involved in that. So it's definitely more than $5,000 for every government that we are putting into that one. So it's not a physical check in there, but there is a partnership from the city definitely adding value. So I would want to see that more formalized partnership with them, just like what we just went through today in the work session on the Chamber of Commerce. So let's identify the key organizations that are working and contributing to the city and let's formalize the partnership. So that way, even for the future console and future student, just an example of student relationship John's Creek. The future also, there's something that's going to be binding them. So if I kind of want to wrap up, if I could, I love the idea of formalizing relationship with John's Creek leadership here. I think it's a great idea. It protects their ability to raise money, build a program because they know they're starting with X amount of dollars at the front end. And then there's accountability to us as well as ourselves to them. So I have no problem with that. Love that idea. The question I have is when it's in the unassigned fund balance, after this vote tonight, those dollars could be used for other things. And we'll know about it, but there's a whole bunch of projects that we could spend money on. We all agree that, but I guess this MOU that we established, this this contract that we establish with leadership How fast can we get it done? How fast is could that happen so we can go ahead and and allocate those monies and potentially put that in line item within the next 25 or to 26 budget next year because that'll be it will be permanent at that point and the other question I had is to director Campbell is the triple A bond rating, absolutely what Councilman Coffin had just said. We're all concerned about the triple A bond rate. We want to keep that integrity. Is there a threshold for where we start to have risk or they start looking at us differently. Is there a floor that we need to establish or do we need to say funny question? Why is that? Because you were trying to twist and contort big time to make it sound like that if we did not keep the millage right the same that the sky would fall. Regarding our credit rate. No, no, I think it's critically important to maintain the credit rate. Yeah, I agree. Absolutely. So how much I never thought that it carried much weight. What do you try to put in the unfunded balance? No. Do we have, I mean. That is question earlier. We identified a floor of 19.5 million. Director Campbell, could I give you a hand wrong? Yeah, I was trying to. I apologize. I do not like to just cite numbers of memory. And that discussion, we had that discussion when we were establishing the milligrate. I had all of my notes. I was prepared for that discussion. I did not bring those. I was not prepared for this tonight. And if there are materials that support all of the things that I presented, I can recirculate that to the council following this. We understand, kind of like, we identified a floor, so probably, council member can go back and look at that, but we identified a floor on the list. If the floor is at that 900 level, there's really, from my perspective, there's, you know, we need to move forward with the MOU with John's Creek Leadership, but that floor is critical. I don't know what that floor is. 19.5 million. 19.5 million? Yeah, that's what, what like you can go back and look at the workstation May 6th, but that's not the total rate. Yeah, I think the Regardless we're talking $2,500. Great. It's Ridiculous. No, no, it's not about the dollar and want Consumber it's it's more about the process and it's it's like I agree I agree with you there should be an M absolutely. But once you've been funding a program and when they turn in their invoice, when their fiscal year starts and you tell them you're not going to pay it, they've got to find the money somewhere else. And so $2,500 and an $80 million budget is embarrassing. It's embarrassing. First of all, I would completely disagree on the basis that it's not your correct that $2,500 is a relatively small amount in the overall budget. But as a principle, I think that it's very important that any government, but our council has got to be very cognizant of governance and the way in which we distribute taxpayer funds. And so if we go down this route, it needs to be very fleshed out. We need to really think about where is the dividing line and what is the defining way in which we have a financial relationship with nonprofits. Because there are a lot of nonprofits in John's Creek that do good works. I'm very supportive of student leadership, John Screek. I know that the Rotary, the two different Rotaries have talked about providing funding. I know that I've talked with a couple of different companies that indicated willingness to provide further financial aid? So, no, no. And again, I agree with you. It's just we could do that in a future meeting very quickly. I feel sure, just like we did with the Chamber MOU, or the agreement that we're discussing. It's just $2,500. It's been paid. Everybody can check that in open checkbook. But regardless, I'll move on. No big deal. It's $ paid, everybody can check that in open checkbook. But regardless, I'll move on, no big deal. It's $2,500. But then I guess that comes to the next point then. How can we justify paying a car allowance to the manager of the office of the mayor if we're not paying? It's supposed to be the equivalent of the executive assistant to the city manager. So should we give one the car allowance or take one away. So I would love to address that. So the compensation package for that position was part of a package made by HR at the time, really before I even took office. I know that the compensation study that was done classified the office, the manager of the office of the mayor very differently and considered it to be, you know, pretty far advanced beyond just a regular executive assistant. And so, you know, I would understand if there's a desire to do something different in the future, and let me finish, to do something different in the future, you know, when there's a next iteration of that person that fills that role. But I think it would be a very strange thing to have someone that agreed to take employment based on certain compensation and then midway try to roll it back. And it is not a fair characterization to try to cite the charter in an exacting way because it does not say exactly like ex-executive assistant. It basically says use that as a guide. And so the previous was that it was pegged to a department head and then the council chose to peg it to an executive assistant and in that realm. So I don't know how many of you all watched, but there was an issue with the former mayor's chief of staff at the time. Engaging, I don't even know how to describe it, maybe unscrupulous activities, things that were not criminal, but not necessarily what an employee of the city of John Scree should have been pursuing. Some strategies deployed on my end where I would like to put some better guardrails for that position because that was at the sole discretion the mayor. I do believe that some of the restrictions was made based on personality and not the role itself. And I would say the roles probably won the two grades below Where it needs to sit But there were some charter adjustments that were compromised with the former mayor and myself for that So just a little contest I According to the charter were supposed to set the salary and consultation. The mayor's supposed to set the salary. So I, irregardless of what the HR director recommended, I think it needs to be set according to you what the charter says, which is same. So either the executive assistant to the city manager should be allowed to have the same benefit or we remove that benefit. I'm very happy to consider this information if I have a chance to review it and it's something that we can take out all the time. Why don't we post from approving the budget and come back and have another special called meeting. I mean last year we had more meetings than that. No. No. I'm sorry I'm not being too collaborative here, but we all were in agreement with the process for the budget. We submitted any requests and this is becoming a pattern where we get to alignment and then there are. I don't know where these came from. I don't know if there was an email sent out today or the weekend, but I did not review it. The only thing that I've had any forewarning about was the $2500 about student leadership, John. Which I was aware that I did not know that was going to be submitted for the budget. So, a lot of the spending stuff obviously, I'm not going to support, like that's just a given. But it's to allow us to perform the due diligence those requests, when they're made that allow us to give them the critical thought they deserve, then we need time to absorb them. And so if I don't have time, I'm just going to vote no if I don't have time. I'm sorry, Councilman Coffin, I totally agree with you. The agendas are so packed, discussion is cut so short on everything because we're meeting once every three weeks. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent and I know but this is the biggest decision we make. So I understand if you on the more time, or don't want to go through it, I understand that. But please know that I have spent all weekend working on this, and we're still getting information today. So it's not for not wanting to tell you, but there's a lot of things that we've been dealing with. So I understand, I mean there are definitely times where I know that I get stuff and it's late breaking or it's a timely emergency but some of these do seem like we could have been given at least an email, heads up which was requested several times. But I would like to just address a couple of these things just to get to what I understand the situation to be. So regarding the permanent striping on a field. We had good reason based on some things that were an economic development opportunity for us to hit the pause button on doing that. That is something that our council approved unanimously. And about six months went by before it came back. At that time, we had asked that there be more information given, more data. The information I was given at the time was that there were 19 students, or 19 kids that were interested or it signed up as showing interest in a program. And so because of the expense, I think a majority of council, myself included decided that we can't justify that big of an investment if that's what we're seeing. I get that, I mean, football is a big deal and it's a big part of our community and big part of America and I believe in it and I want to support it. But we are tasked with a fiduciary duty to make sure that we are spending taxpayer funds in the most reasonable way possible for the most people's benefit. There is another program in John's Creek and they have 80 students or they have 80 kids in the program and they rent a field from the schools and they are able to play football. And there have been claims made that somehow something has been done to try to thwart that. The city manager has made very clear that what we did before was not spray paint. I think it was spray chalk. It was. And so it did wash off very much. I think the 16 days. I think the staff has since come back and told us that they can spray real paint in at last for months. But anyway, I think that again to some of the previous points, it's really unfair to I think all of us as a group that we could not have gotten this ahead of time, so we could have really gotten some information. As far as the MLK breakfast, I don't know that I've ever heard someone ask for something to be defunded after saying what a huge success it was. So- No, just a better use of- I appreciate that, but my thought would be that the breakfast serves as a floor, a minimum, hopefully a new level that we want to observe the MLK holiday. It's really our only holiday to really recognize our pursuit of a colorblind society. Let's talk about how we can add and go beyond that. And I would love it if you could organize a day of service that would be a great project. So anyway, that's obviously I'm not gonna support the extension on the support emotion. Mr. Mayor, I got a small observation about our decorum. We can't be characterizing each other's decision as whimsical. Late introductions happen because we had late information. And to say that we are micromanaging just because we are going over the line items. As you just mentioned we have the oversight responsibility. Just to put it in context. I was at the city hall one day when the janitor was wheeling out about ten furnitures, ten chairs and I thought all of them look perfect. Today I look at the line item $86,000 and if you tell me if I shouldn't be looking at the line items previous year, $25,000. This year, $86,000, I will be looking at such kind of line items and to make it a point, I use one of the chairs I took it from the trash and it's one of the best furniture I have in my house and we just trashing it, putting it 86,000. I don't think that's great use of taxpayers' money. money? So I do feel very strongly if this council, the body of this sitting here, goes, we have doubts, I always reach out to the city manager or the finance director to see how they are spending the money on what line items. So tell that to be dismissive of the college whimsical, I think doesn't spell very nice for this August body. Oh my, I just have one last point here. I think that, you know, we're all making really good points here. I think my only issue is the time frame for John's Creek leadership to get the MOU completed. The rest of these, we can talk about them, we can bring them back up as council initiatives, we can move monies from unassigned fund balances to these particular programs. We all agree to that, we know the process, but I'm concerned that you, why is it we can't drop in $2,500 and then back into the MOU, we can probably have it at next council meeting. I don't understand why we don't want to do that. I was given an understand that we had until January. I could be wrong about that, but we wouldn't want to wait that long with the holidays in us meeting only every three weeks. I think that there are other, I mean, we have an unassigned fund balance. I think that would cover the $2,500, we have 900,000 plus in it. But I was speaking to Councilmember Tunky about other areas of the budget that would possibly cover it, including the $30,000 that were for the local grants that we put into the Parks and Recreation Fund because it went to a more and more of a category would not be my first choice, but I'm just saying that there are options and I don't think we're going to jeopardize anything by just proceeding appropriately in my opinion. Well, I'm not disagreeing with that. I think we all on this council, I think we're agreeing that John's Creek Student Leadership $2,500 is something we can do. That sounds like we can do it. We just have to build the guardrails, build the MOU together and go forward. I mean, am I taking a leap out here by saying that? Or would we all agree that's something that we probably want to do? With the frame work. Would the frame work in that sense here? Yeah, okay, okay, because the frame work has to make sense for us, right? Make sense for the city, make sense for them. So I think we're all in a same spirit we want to do it. It's a timing issue I think that's going on right now. So I mean, if that, you know, I'm okay moving forward with this budget as it sits right now, but I do, I just want to make sure we move expeditiously on John's Creek's sooner leadership. That's where I am. That's right there. And I would encourage, you know, to talk to your contacts, you know, maybe that there are people that are more unhappy to help fill it in privately as well. All right. Yeah. Sure. When do you think is the most appropriate time for us to revisit this topic of allocations? This 900,000 which is, do you have a schedule for that? Or we can bring it up anytime? That would be, I believe it would be coordinated with the City Manager's office. I would receive my direction from City Manager Greer, is that correct? But we can coordinate it. You can bring a council led initiative anytime. Okay. And there's also a benefit to having a larger unassigned fund balance. I mean, there's different ways of viewing philosophically and theoretically, I think the council member Kaufflin would say don't let it grow. Whereas I think that it's good to have flexibility to have funding there. With our next item, we're about to liquidate our land acquisition fund, right? So we may want to have funding to put into that. So there's different ways of financial philosophy to look at it, but we don't have to necessarily. We should not feel like we have to allocate every penny of it. You know? Yeah. See, the reason, Councilman, Aaron Elwood. The reason why I was, I mentioned about the 2015 cost of Meganist Ferry and 2025 cost of Meganist Ferry is the price of delay. Every time we sit here and we say, okay, we will do it, we will revisit it. There is escalation we are building into it. That was the idea probably why some on this decided did say why don't we incorporate these changes. But since I've been clarified that we can bring this up again pretty quickly, I may not have heard you correctly. Did you say that I said that you micromanaged? It's of no consequence right now. I can talk about it later. Okay. Because when we say, I don't think that I said that. That's not you. Not you. Somebody else said that we should, we are not the experts to get into the weeds per se. Gotcha. That was me. Any other? I just have one final comment or maybe two. I don't know. But thank you for the good discussion. I felt like we discussed outdoor storage more than we discussed the budget and this is the biggest decision that we make. So that's why I feel it's rushed and now we could have had today's work session or some more time and had a special called meeting. So for that reason I just can't support it but thank you for the discussion. Okay. Council Member, are you trying to speak? Okay. All right, everybody good? All right. All those in favor of the motion to approve? All those saying no? 5-2. Thank you for clarifying. Were you a yes? I saw you as a... Okay. 5-2. Thank you for clarifying. Were you a yes? I saw you as a 5-2, right? With 6-1. Thank you so much. Sorry. Didn't look like. Didn't look like. All right. Budget passes. Congratulations. Next item. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is resolution 24920. This is a resolution to appoint members to the arts culture and entertainment committee. Mayor this is your item. So I think that these, I think it's five positions and four of the names are names to return and one is Matthew that was based on your recommendation Councillor Mayor Mellie and he had a good background. It looks like for the ACE committee and so put that for your consideration. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve action item M2R20240920 consideration of a resolution to appoint members of the arts, culture and entertainment committee. All right, second. All right, thank you for the motion, for the second. Any discussion? What I thank everyone that stood up and volunteered for these positions It I think their job's gonna get busier and busier here soon. So thank you very much for for doing it. Thank you We continue to lean on our committees. Yep. I think to pretty good success Anybody else? All right, all those in favor? I appreciate seven, zero. Got it, thank you. Next item. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is an action item. This is consideration to prove a purchase and sales agreement for 11315 Lakefield Drive. We have Assistant City Manager Bennett for presentation. Good evening again, Mayor and Council. Back in October of 2021, you adopted a town, center, vision, and plan that established a strategic blueprint for the growth and development of the town, center, area. In that town, center, vision, and plan, you had strategies to implement that growth. Two of the options that you have within that plan is either in-house municipal land development within the town center area or public private partnership for land development within the town center area. With that in mind, the city recently became aware of a piece property located in town center at 11, 315 Lakefield Drive. It's kind of a candy corner across the street from city hall. It's bound by Lakefield Drive on one side, John's Creek Parkway on the other. Carrying this property aligns with that town center implementation strategy of either in-house municipal development or public private partnership. And it's in a key location close to City Hall and Creekside Park and along Lakefield Drive, which is the plan main street through the Townsend area. With that council directed staff to begin and negotiate acquisition of that property, which we have done and we have been successful before you denied is a purchase and sale agreement for the acquisition of this property that's signed by the owner. The key business terms in that purchase and sale agreement is that we'll be purchasing 11, 315 Lakefield Drive. It's approximately 5.75 acres it's owned by John's Creek Professional Plaza. The purchase price is 5.6 million dollars. Ernest Money is $56,000. We have a 60 day due diligence period to do a tile examination, survey, appraisal, and property inspection. And then we close no later than 1130 24 with the property being conveyed to us by a limited warranty deed. So the recommendation of staff tonight and the ask of use to authorize the may may or to enter into the purchase and sale agreement for us to move forward in consummating the closing if all do diligence checks out. Happy to answer any questions. Questions? Great work. Thank you. I'm ready to make a motion. Mr. Mayor, I make a motion to approve M3 consideration to approve a purchase and sales agreement for 11315 Lakefield Drive. All right. Thank you, Councillor Armerle. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Councillor Arcoffie. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Councillor Mellie. Is there a discussion? I'll just say that I know that there has been a little bit of Internet chatter perhaps about this and some excitement. I think it's important for people to realize that it increases our options that are potentially available, but it also does not mean that we are necessarily doing a particular project at the location. I think everyone knows I'm talking about the performance hall. Everything's still moving forward, I think, regarding the performance hall. But we're looking at a couple of different options. I think that's an important thing for people to know. But I also appreciate Mr. Bennett, your work to help you this here. No problem. Thank you, Lynn. Anybody else? All right. Call the question. All is in favor? All right. Very good. Thank you. All right. Next item. Thank you. We have the next item on the agenda as an action item. This is consideration to prove an intergovernmental agreement with Fulton County Schools for Athletic Field Usage. We have Director Mattson for presentation. Here to present the proposed Abit's Hill Elementary Pilot Partnership. This is an IGA between the City of Johns Creek and Fulton County School Board for use of Abit's Hill Elementary as a public park after school hours. So I'm happy to answer any questions. You do have the agreement there in your packet. And there was the budget that you all approved tonight does include funds that would be needed to implement this project. Yes, so I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Director Matson. Questions? Just so I'm I'm really excited about this. I always love parks without borders and I know you all have been incessant on trying to get this available. So please pass along the kudos from council to all the staff members that helped drive this home, shout out to Abbott's Hill for being willing to partner with this. Just a question, if we think things are moving along fine, could we possibly entertain developing some of these partnerships with some of our private schools within John's Creek? Specifically, trying to think of a solution for the football issue, maybe partnering with Mount Pisco since they have the infrastructure. But I know it's a little different, but just put in that on your radar for consideration. But absolutely going to support this well done and again shut out to staff and Abit Hill. So thank you. Do you want to go for your meeting? I'll go ahead. Thank you very much. This has been a great effort for a while and special mention of Dr. Mike Looney, the superintendent, Christine McKay, a vice president of Fulton County School Board. Mike Looney, the superintendent, Christine McKay, vice president of Fulton County School Board. So they really appreciated the idea and said, okay, how can we work together on these things? So this is just a one pilot kind of a program, but even they were looking at like a long term on how can we expand this into the multiple like high schools and those things. So it's a great program like Conflinberg-Coffin said like it's for the football like it's a great start and it's going to be a great partnership. Our we have the parks but not it's not going to be sufficient for all the activities. So these schools like they have the fields vacant after hours and on the weekend. So this kind of a partnership definitely helps in a long run and it shows the collaboration between the different organizations. So it's a great work from the staff to, and it wasn't easy. We tried multiple things, but here is the end product, so really proud of it. Thank you. Mayor Prattam, I would also like to thank, in addition to everyone that you said, also the former school board member, Linda McCain. She kind of started us down this path and I appreciate it. Director Madsen, thank you. I actually asked for this to come off consent because as many times as I read the idea, I couldn't, I had so many questions. So one, it's not clear to me, is it open to the public for use or just for the city to have a function? It is open to the public. The intention is that it's open to the public for use during the hours outlined. And here I believe it's 6 p.m. to dusk. I should look at that and make sure that's right. But yes, it's open to the public and the city would be responsible for it. We have ingrusted maintenance costs, so we have responsibilities as well for security and maintenance moving forward. Okay. And then now, how will you all check that no one on the violent sex offender registry will be on the property? That is a boilerplate item that is on. So it's not, it is a notification, I believe, and I'll have to check with the city attorney on that exact language, because I don't want to speak out of turn. But I believe that is a notification that, I mean, both people on that list, they have the obligation not to come on these places. So it is on them to not be there, right? So it's a notification to us that they shouldn't be there as well. I believe that's the intention of that language. Okay, because it does say we're responsible to make sure nobody does show up. I'll be happy to look over that with the attorney. What are the cost per year? Because I know we have to put maintenance in to the park plus that had, was it 50,000 per year, including projects to maintenance? Yes, so if you'll refer to page 13 of the actual agreement, it has that listed out. So the estimation of maintenance services is about $50,000 a year. So that is the maintenance of the area we have use of. In addition to that, there's about 15,000 per year in projects included there in, so you can see which projects those are. Okay, so roughly $65,000 a year for this one school. Yes. That doesn't have straight football fields. Okay, all right, thank you. Are we going to have any kind of signage? Like how will the work get out to the public, especially that school family that this is now available? Absolutely. So we can certainly work with communications department on the best way to push that out. The school does want us to put up signage both to notify people that they can and appropriate hours to be there. That's the public, because it weird. What about as far as the capacity? I mean, could someone, could just open a public, could someone just go in there and say, hey, let's invite a couple hundred people and start playing. Is how do we manage that piece of it? We may not know right now, but that in the liability, I'm sure the liability we're carrying insurance for that particular geographical location, but no. So for organized events, if there's gonna be an event there, that's a bunch of people. We are required to notify the school, they have a system called school dude, so that we actually, they need to be aware of what's going on out there of course if there's organized events so it'd be on us and when you know police make their rounds through their as part of the regular patrols you know if that was happening that would be something that they would need to let us know of so that we could address the issue. What if it's not organized we're just a whole group of people say hey let's just meet at Abbott's at seven o'clock in the mean. So we'd have to handle that just like we do at our normal parts that happens right and so we have to address that with those groups and make sure it doesn't happen again so we have to address that either with the police or hopefully just with those individuals. Is there any sports, any like striping anything on the field itself or is just a green park basically just a green area to play whatever you want. It is a there is a rectangular multi use field so it has been historically used by a group for soccer. There is no striping on it it's just grass it can be striped with any number of striping methods but it is a grass rectangular field. Got you got you great thank you., can I ask you one more? I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Director Madsen. Of the Parks Update Plan, from my last look in our Capitol Improvement Plan, we pushed off a lot of the things that were recommended to do in 25. We pushed it off to 26. So, aside from the appearance, you know, we're taking on another asset or we're having another amenity for the appearance, we're taking on another asset or have another amenity for the public. Why do we keep taking on is that your recommendation, $65,000 a year when we're pushing off things that we were supposed to do in the parks that we currently have? Sure, I understand your question. It does, this was a specific priority outlined in that plan as well. So it was specifically indicated that we as a city should pursue partnerships with the schools because it opens up a park without us having to build one. So this does follow the recommendations on the park plans specifically. Yeah, it just didn't state cost to my knowledge when it said farm partnerships with a school didn't have. I don't believe it stated those specific costs because we didn't know them at the time. Okay thank you. Director Madsen, Dr. Loom, he was tired of seeing us sit John's Creek City Council folks because we constantly budget him till finally one day when he met me he said I'm in talks with your city. Can you please let go of it? This is just to say to the people of John's Creek, that football is really important to this council. And we do everything to make sure this particular sport, which has been lagging, gets its due respect. Thank you for all you done. Thank you for allowing you done. Thank you. Samarro, I'd like to make a motion. It's very elegant. I just couldn't remember. Right, I couldn't remember. After it gets late and after 15-20 minutes of conversation, I can't remember if we had a motion or not. Sorry. Go ahead. So I'd like to make a motion to approve Action Item M.4, consideration to approve the Intergovernment Agreement with Fulton County Schools for Athletic Field Usage. All right, thank you, Council Member D. Biasi. Is there a second? Aye second. Thank you, Council Member Aramelli. Is there a second. Second. Thank you, Councilmember Aramelli, is there a discussion? Thank you very much. I mean, Dr. Looney and the whole group down there and I believe Councilman Tunky, he had a lot of involvement here, so I appreciate your work on this. And, Director Mattson, thank you very much for everything you guys do. And, and I'll add one other person to thank, former Council Member Linnie Spraowski. Yes, he really did lead the charge on this initiative. I think he stayed with it long enough to kind of pass it off to new Council members. But I do think that this is something that is going to potentially be a very big part of our strategic growth as a park system, as a park and rack. So, all right, if there are no other comments, I'll call the question. All those in favor? And all those opposed. Okay. And six more. Next item. Thank you, ma'am. We have nothing under other business. We have another opportunity for public comment. Anybody? All right. Seeing none. Next slide. Thank you. Mayor's comments. No comments. I just appreciated that we had a, you know, I think a pretty full-throw-to discussion and debate, which is appropriate. Appreciate that. Thank you. Executive session? We I believe do have a need. So if there's any motions. I move that we adjourn to executive discussion where we will plan to discuss land legal and or personnel matters. Good sir. Second we're going to discuss to plan to discuss. All right thank you Councilor Kaufflin and Mayor Pro Tem any discussion? Seeing none all I I'm proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. I'm really proud of the work that you've done. Thank you. 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