Good evening. I'd like to call to order the special closed session meeting of the City Council. It was 5.30 p.m. Meeting number 3076. Madam City clerk, roll call please. Councillor Member Pink. President. Councillor McGowliger. Here. Mayor Burr-Temnylson. Here. Mayor Lumberan. Here. And Councillor Mammoth-Schnell will be arriving shortly. Thank you. President. Council Member Gallagher. Here. Mayor Perrote-Mialson. Here. Mayor Lumberan. Here. Council Member Schnell. We'll be righty reading shortly. Thank you. Next we have public input. At this time, any member of the public may address the council on matters which are on the closed session agenda. If any members of the public who are participating through Zoom wish to address the council, please raise your hand and if you're calling in please press star nine to raise your hand. Madam City clerk can you request a speak. No, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. We'll move on to close session update, Mr. City Attorney. The City Council will be convening in close session. calling in please press star nine to raise your hand. Madam City Clerk, can you request a speak? No, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. We'll move on to close session update, Mr. City Attorney. The City Council will be convening a close session to discuss item five as it appears on the close session agenda. Thank you. We will recess the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm sorry. the meeting of the City Council and the Tusson Housing Authority is 603PM meeting number 3076. Tonight's invocation is by Reverend Tim Ellington from Aldersgate Methodist Church. Reverend? Good evening. Let us pray. Love in God. During this time of Passover and Holy Week we pause to thank you. Thank you for the gift of life. Thank you for the gift of community. For the gift of freedom. For the gift of diversity. For the gift of leadership. Thank you that we are on this journey together. We thank you for testing and ask you to bless each resident, family, business, employee, organization, and school who call this city home. And God, we thank you for our mayor, our council members, for all of our city departments, and for all of the staff, for everyone who leads and serves our city. Thank you for all that they do. May you strengthen and encourage them. And God, we pray for tonight's meeting for the public input and for the approvals, resolutions, agreements, and contracts that are discussed and decided. We pray for wisdom. We pray for vision. We pray for humility. We pray for hope. We pray that we will not be motivated by fear, but by love that our city and all who call it home may thrive. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Reverend. Councilmember Fink has the pledge of allegiance tonight. Thank you and I remind folks there's no comma between one nation and under God. So stand face the flag. Place your hand over your heart. Ready begin. I collectively do the flag of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God in the visual with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Council Member Fink. Next we have our presentations portion of the agenda this evening. We have two presentations and we're going to start with a Navy North Hanger status update with our folks, the IEM, Colin Cummings and Spencer Costas. Gentlemen? Good evening. Mayor Lumberb, Mayor Pro Tem Nelson, City Council member, City staff and attendees. My name is Spencer Costas. I'm a project manager with I.M. or Innovative Emergency Management. I'm here to present to you the Navy North Hangar Fire Recovery Update. But before we give you again, I would like to thank the City Council and staff for the opportunity to assist the City of Tustins with this project It was a pleasure to work with our city partners vendors and community stakeholders through the various phases of response and recovery And I would also like to thank the IEM team for their outstanding hard work and dedication to this project and now we will go ahead and Move on with the update Currently Currently, as far as above-ground inspection, remediation, and I'll have a given update as far as that's concerned. Above-ground roofs and gutters operations continue and regulatory agency approved areas for addresses that signed up during the enrollment period. Residential inspection and remediation crews continue to work seven days a week to complete the last phase of the response As far as debris removal is concerned all bag to breathe race debris waste from community cleanup continues to be removed from residential areas stored near the north hangar and Disposed of per the regulatory agency approved Navy work plan and and I will go ahead and hand it over to Colin Cummings, Operations Section Chief, to discuss the above ground. Good evening. Today, with the updates and milestones for the above ground remediation effort, we've completed just under 2,100 individual address requests for the residential cleaning and inspection. Over 2,000 addresses have been remediated including schools, commercial buildings, multi-family homes and single-family homes. The addresses that remain are still single-family homes in the Columbus Square and Landings slash Tuscan Meadows area. We are currently scheduled to complete this phase on April 24th, 2025. Following the completion of the above ground work, reporting and requests for close-out of the residential cleanup will occur in coordination with the regulatory agencies. People have questions at this point. They can still contact the call center, as well as email the NavyHangerRecovery at tussentia.org email address. As far as invoicing, the financial update, the Navy and city have a seventh amendment cooperative agreement that provides the additional funding up to the 105.8 million. 17.8 of that is allocated for the above ground remediation work that's been performed for the past 90 days and continues to the state. As of April 14th the city has invooiced the Navy approximately 88.6 and has a roughly 62 point, or excuse me, 62 remaining. And 12.3 of that is CUMSENSE January 1st. Here are just a couple of photos of some of the work that's many residents here in Tussin have seen going on inside of the Columbus Square, Tusson Meadows, Landing Amalfi, and Tond Legacy areas. As far as the update over at the North Hanger location where the Navy is conducting its work, IEM and the city continue to coordinate efforts to oversee and report back progress that goes on over there at that site. Ensuring that everything that they have stated inside of the work plan is continuing to be adhered to. The Navy has already assumed the majority of the responsibilities that we were once taking on, taking that over under their wing. Navy has surpassed 50% of the completion of the debris removal. Chambers 1 through 3 and 7 through 10 have have been cleared over there The monthly updates and photos are still available on the Navy website Also, you can use the QR code located on the right hand portion of the slide in order to find that information An air monitoring continues data collection continues around the Navy North Hanger and reports collected do not show any releases or elevated Risk of harm to the public according to the environmental health agencies. Depending any questions that would clear a brief. I'll open up for questions in a second, but I just personally wanted to thank Colin, you and Spencer, it's been a long road here. I'm not sure we thought it was going to last this long. It's been about 17 months since the fire started. You guys have done such a tremendous job IEM, but you personally I receive comments and feedback from residents that you know the personal touch that the two of you have taken and meeting with residents and providing resources and answers to their questions has not gonna notice so the community is very grateful for your work thank you. Any questions for Colin or Spencer? All right thanks Appreciate it. All right. Our next presentation tonight is a Tesla Legacy Community Outreach and Engagement 2025. I'd like to introduce a few folks in the room to get us started, but we have our in-house team that's going to be in charge of some of the outreach and engagement of the community out of Tesla Legacy this year. Communications Manager Stephanie Stephanie Nahara, WCD Manager, Brian Monkrieve, and his real property team, Ken Piggy, and Ryan Spine Tech, who are hiding in the back over there. And then our consultant partners at JPW Communications and specifically Suzanne Vanke, who's here with us tonight and will provide us some more information here shortly. To kind of level set where we're going and what the road ahead looks like, we're going to provide a video overview of the opportunity out of the legacy that we're trying to focus on. So, you can cue the video. The Tustin Legacy is more than a development project. It is the culmination of years of history and pride evolved into a space designed to embrace Tustin's future. The Justin Legacy spans 1,500 acres of land in the city of Tustin and 95 acres in the city of Irvine on the former Marine Corps air station. Tustin Legacy thoughtfully entwines residential and commercial spaces, parks, outdoor recreation and educational institutions to provide an enhanced community experience. In 1991, the federal government recommended closure of the base. The Tustin City Council was given the role of local reuse authority tasked with creating a plan to repurpose the land. Two plans were developed that serve as the blueprint, guiding Tustin Legacy Land Use, the specific plan and local reuse plan. Both were approved in 1998 with the base ultimately closing in 1999. Both plans aimed to preserve the location's rich history while introducing modern infrastructure and amenities reflective of a shared community vision. Nearly 30 years since the creation of these plans, the city has been working to turn the plan's vision into reality. Over 1,000 acres have been developed. This city has earned $476 million from selling land, which has funded important city programs, services and projects, such as Tustin Ranch Road and Bridge, Veterans Sports Park, Tustin Legacy Park, and the widening of Peters Canyon and Moffat Bridge. Significant funds have been invested in infrastructure including all new roads and utilities. Completed private developments include retail and office spaces, homes, apartments including affordable units, and various public and institutional facilities. With approximately 500 acres of land yet to be realized by the city, the project has reached an important milestone. As the city embarks on the final stretch of development, community input and alignment are more important than ever. This is a great time for the city to revisit the original vision of the Tustin Legacy specific and local reuse plans, see if the principles guiding development are still relevant given market conditions, and whether it matches our current goals and needs. The city will be engaging the broader Tuxtam community as staff and city council work together to update and refine our approach to future development at Tuxtam Legacy. Here's over to Suzanne with JPW, please. Thank you so much. Good evening, Mayor City Council. It's an honor to be here with you tonight to share about the test and legacy outreach plan. And tonight's meeting is actually the kickoff of our official outreach process. So really excited to share little insights about our plan and how we're planning to invite the test and community and to hear about all the progress that we've made to date at legacy and the exciting possibilities for the future because this is one of the most significant projects in city history. So here's a quick hit of the information that I'll share today in my presentation and of course I'll leave room for questions and comments at the end. So just looking at a project as diverse and as complex as test and legacy, you really need to leave no stone unturned with your outreach efforts. And so we have three engagement and outreach goals for our efforts with legacy. First, we want to raise community awareness of test and legacy's history, the vision, progress made to date, and the future development opportunities on site. Second, we want to gather community input on legacy and the vision to help inform and to guide our future development opportunities. And lastly, we want to inform the community about the outreach process in ways that they can get involved along the way. So let's talk a little bit about how we'll engage the community and exactly what we'll engage them in conversation about. Really at the end of the day, the city has set a very clear vision for the development of the remaining 500 acres out on site. And so we see the two key opportunity areas centered around the hangers. And so we know that the North Hanger was obviously impacted by the fires as we heard about earlier. The South Hanger remains and really the question to enter into dialogue with the community about is is looking at the current plans and the vision for the site and just really educating the community starting their first to get that foundational information to them to help them understand what's proposed, what the current plan includes. So do that first and then second, let's look at the current needs, the priorities and community values and let's reach some alignment between those two things. I think that's a really important gut check in this process in a way that we can bring the community along as part of the outreach and engagement. And then we want to look at outreach, sorry, the opportunities and constraints that exist out there as we bring the community along in this conversation. Sorry. And then how are we going to do that? We've looked at several ways to create awareness through this engagement process. We are going to be installing signage at transit centers, out at Kiosk and Old Town and throughout the community, signage at parks and community centers, installing new street light banners at Tustin Legacy, distributing outreach materials at city facilities, sending notifications in water bills, and posting information on social media. And later in the process, in the summer and fall, we're also going to be doing some bus tours or interactive tours of the site and looking at those opportunity areas will also launch an online survey to the entire community and host a series of public workshops about this project. And we, in fact, will be out at tabling events, having a booth adjacent to Parks and Rec. And so encourage everyone to stop by the booth if you're going to the Easter celebration and Ed Khan on Saturday. We will be there from 9 to noon. And then we'll also be at the Viva Tustin event on May 2nd as well, answering questions, providing information of the community. And then because of this project, you know, it's reaching so many diverse audiences, we really want to hear from those community groups that represent those diverse interests. And so we'll be hosting some meetings and listening sessions with key groups in the community. And this is just a smattering of what those stakeholder groups look like. And then the culmination of this on May 13th we're really wanting to get the word out about our first community workshop, 6 p.m. at the annex at Test and Legacy. So please mark your calendars attend. We'd love to have participation and this will be an open house format. So come as you are anytime between 6 and 8 and we'll be there again providing information, education and listening and answering questions where we can. And we've already established a number of dedicated ways to get a hold of this. We have dedicated phone line setup as well as an email address. We've got a dedicated web page to the project. We're encouraging folks to sign up for eBlast updates. We plan to do those as regularly as possible a couple of times a month, but monthly at least. And be part of the process. It's in one of our public meetings, provide input. We'd love to hear from you. And sorry, last but not least, just also social media, be another key way we'll be engaging the the community So please follow the city if you haven't on social media and we'll be providing regular updates there And with that I'm available for questions Thank you, Zan and just for anybody who missed the big picture It's been 26 years since the base closed and we've done a lot of work But we've had a lot of work left to do. And so we've brought on JPW to really do community outreach and engage our community members with ideas and inform them of what's happened and try to open up the line of communication for the next hopefully not 25 years, hopefully five to 10 years of finishing the base development out there. So thank you, Suzanne. Any questions or comments from Council? Councilman Gallagher, I'm thinking to go next. Yeah, so just wanted to kind of give a little bit more flavor to how we got here. I think this started, and certainly when I got in Council on 2020, a lot of the plan had been put in place. There was an extensive public outreach effort that had been done years ago. But as the video did a very good job in showing is that things have changed. The process hasn't been as quick and the needs of the community have changed as well, not just the market conditions. And so this is something we've really, the full council has been driving at, is trying to get more engagement. And we've done a number of different things. We've done social media posts. We've done the LRA meeting. We've tried a lot of different avenues. And what this effort really represents is us going to the next level. This is us getting out there and being, with significant expense and time and energy from staff and consultants to really engage. And this is, in part, from what we're hearing from the community. And I appreciate you making the comment about the hangers. Certainly the other items that I hear all the time is the bridges. And then generally, just what is the timing of this and what is it going to look like? And we have the answers to this information. And so I'm really excited about this format. And I would appreciate those at the PowerPoint. We could get that. We can help get that word out as well. And then just wanted to thank you, JPW, for the work that you've done in the past. Others may not know, but the logo that we saw up there. And the work that you've done for the community already in building our, you know, making sure that our brand and our image is in line with what our values are. So you've done a great job and so I'm excited to see no pressure what you do on this one. Thank you. Great. Thank you so much. Yeah. are making sure that our brand and our image is in line with what our values are. So you've done a great job and some excited to see no pressure on what you do on this one. Thank you. Right, thank you so much. Council Member, thank you. Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to thank you for the presentation and this effort. And I think echoing a lot of what Council Member Galgurges said, it's been quarter of a century, since not just the base closed, but since these plans were created and times have changed. And... It's been quarter of a century since not just the base closed, but since these plans were created and times have changed. And we've got the two big points of interest are the biggest sort of pieces of the entire area that we have to address and deal with. And obviously, the circumstances of both of those have changed a lot in the last two years. And so I want to thank you for that. I want to, I'll be there on the 13th and I think it's important for everybody on the council to be at as much of these public input sessions as possible, both the outreach and the incoming sessions, so that the public knows that we're listening to what you're saying out there, because we don't, the work that you're doing is really important to get the word out and facilitate that, but I wanna make sure that the community knows, it's not just going to some contractor that we've hired, that we're all listening to it. And what can happen, what will happen is to be determined. And that's the other thing, which I wanna encourage folks to, I think there's still opportunities for big ideas. Are those, you know, what might happen and what can be done. But think about what we want as a city, as a county, it's one of the really big places to put for really big ideas. And so bring those ideas forward during this process. I just want to make sure the community is doing that. They may not work out, right? But they'll definitely not work out if we don't try them. So thank you. Thank you. Councillor Schnell. I see, Zan. I remember when we first met and we started talking through conceptually what this plan would be and having worked and advertising many years ago. I think it's critical that we have a clear roadmap so we can articulate what the future looks like and that future includes feedback from all of our residents. In the past, kind of amplifying what Councilmember Gallagher has said is we've done a lot of development, but we haven't gotten the feedback from the community. I think our values as a community are probably the same, but it's really the needs and priorities as we move forward into the 21st century, like what does a community need, right? We've got, you know, additional 5,000 homes. They're going to be built, but, you know, the legacy represents a tremendous financial opportunity for us, a housing opportunity to create unique and memorable experiences to make the Tusson legacy. Something very special that acts as kind of a hub that pulls people from South Orange County and North Orange County from the city and even outside the state. And we've got a really unique opportunity having 500 acres of land that is not in fill has not been developed into blank canvas and very excited to have the community come along with us and help kind of paint it and fill it in. So I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you very much for your very informative presentation. Appreciate it very much. It's kind of interesting to see the journey of the legacy through all the years being here and starting with the city and playing commission in 2002, seeing it go from there to where it goes now. It just seems to be getting better and better. So the more we can really give that information in the public and tell them what exactly is going on and get their input on what they want to see in their neighborhoods. I think it is just crucially important. So thank you again for what you're doing. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. All right. Next we're going to move to public input. This time any member of the public may address the council and matters which are not on this evening's agenda provided the matter is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the City Council. If any members of the public are participating through Zoom wish to address the council please raise your hand and if you're calling in please press star 9 to raise your hand. I have one request from one-seed community garden and we'll start with them and then Madam City Clerk if there's any others we'll start with them. And then, not necessarily clerk, if there's any others, we'll take them after. Hi, my name is Maria Winger. I'm here on behalf of One Seed Community Garden. It's been two years. This month marks our two year anniversary. So we just wanted to provide a council with an update on how the garden's been doing and all the incredible work that the board members in the community have done over the past two years. So these are all actual pictures from the garden. This is the groundbreaking event about two years ago. So this is kind of how we started. And this is what the site looked like, and little by little, building the garden beds, filling them with soil, mulching the space, planting things in the space. An irrigation system, what do you call it? The sprinklers, a shed was built, a greenhouse, a stage was built for poetry dreams, for performances, for book clubs. This is what the space looks like right now. We've been growing lots of different things. Herbs, produce, plants, watermelons, flowers. And in 2024, we donated a total of 691 pounds of vegetables, herbs, and produce to Sunday supper at St. Paul's. We donated flowers and some of the most frequently harvested crops were tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers, lettuce, rainbow, other things. And we've held workshops there. We've had master preservers come out. We have had story time and craft time and different events at the garden in 2024. We have a little free library that we have there and a seed library that's at our vitis, so people can pick up seeds for native plants. We have a cut and take herb garden, a bulletin board now, with events. We've enlisted the help of local artists who painted these murals on the shed who helped us create really special places in the garden. Someone who helped us with signage to educate the community about the different plants that we grow. We have an email address and we have a website where people can learn more. We have about 400 subscribers to our email and about 700 followers on Instagram. And it's really been a very beautiful experience for everyone just a space to plant, to grow, to work alongside other people and to help kind of showcase the talent of the community. And the last thing is, Well, thank you for your support throughout these years. And we hope that you can make it to our two year anniversary event, which is going to be on April 26th. There's gonna be music refreshments and a demonstration by a master food preserver. And that's just a little quick recap on the garden two years in. So thank you for your time and your support. Thank you. It's been a positive, additional town and a real fun partnership with the city and your organization. So thank you for everything you're doing as well. No problem. Okay. Madam City Clerk, any other requests to speak? No, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Mayor, can I just make a comment about the one-seed up? I just want to thank Maria and everybody who's been involved in the one-seed garden. It's a two-year anniversary of the garden opening, but it's really something like the four-year anniversary of the concept. And it took a long time for these folks to secure the location and the funding and the support just to get it open. So just that work to get it open. We've seen only half of that so far. And thank you for everything that you've all done for that. Thank you. All right. Next we have our close session report, Mr. City Attorney. Yes, thank you. The council took no reportable action. Thank you, sir. Next is our consent calendar. Items one through 10. All matters listed under the consent calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion without discussion. Public input for the consent calendar items. If any members of the public wish to address the council, please submit a request to speak for them if you have not already. If any members of the public who are participating Through Zoom, Mr. Address, the Council on Items 1-10, please raise your hand. I have one request to speak on my list. Any members of the public who are participating through zoom must address the council on items one through ten please raise your hand I have one request to speak on my list Marie Louvers If you zoom and then we'll take the others after that if there are any Hello My name is Marie Luger. So, okay. Thank you. Good evening Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. We live now a very difficult period on the United States. We are facing a recession. And the federal government is cutting a lot of money and help that should go towards Americans who need it. It will be even more difficult for workers and employees to find a place to live in Orange County. The priority of the city of Tostin should be to take care of the people who live or work in Tostin. To offer employees and workers and teachers a place to live that they can afford and that is not too far from their job. This is clearly the way it should go and you know it. a developer his money back when it shows not to build affordable housing clearly shows that you don't care about the people of testing. It would show that you only care about your future reelection for which again you will need the money from realtors and developers. I am asking you to prove me wrong. Don't return the money to the Jessup developer. He does not need it. But keep this money and use it to help people in need. Interesting. Thank you for your attention. Thank you for your comments. Adam City clerk, any other requests to speak? No, Mr. Mayor. Anybody in the room? No? Okay. Do any members wish to poll items in the consent calendar? I'll start. I'm going to poll item number nine and I understand Councillor Schnell wants to pull item 8. Okay, any others? Number 5. Councilmember Fink, pulls number 5. So that is... All right. Do I have a motion for the balance, which is items 1 through 4, 6, 7 and 10. I believe motion. Motion in a second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. If I actually, Madam City Clerk, you gotta do a roll call. Yes, please. Go ahead. Council Member Feet. Aye. Council Member Schnell. Aye. Council Member Gallagher. Aye. Mayor Pratton Nielsen. Yes. Mayor Lumber. Aye. Sorry for taking your job there. I think here he's probably zero. All right. Item number five. Second reading and adoption ordinance. Number 1564. First amendment to the development agreement. 2022 triples. your job there. I think here is five zero. All right. Item number five. Second reading and adoption ordinance number 1564. First amendment to the development agreement. 2022, 2, the just at 1780, 2, 7 through 178, 4, 2. Or by both of our councilmember think. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. We obviously had this discussion last week, but. The's requires two readings and hopefully it gives us a chance of reconsideration of that decision. I still don't think it's a good decision. I have talked to the city attorney about our risk under the gift of public Funds Act. I appreciate his analysis. I know I'd encourage everybody to talk about the risk because there are risks. I also think fundamentally as a policy matter, it doesn't make a lot of sense. And we are going to be considering later today community you know, community development block grants, which has includes funding for, you know, various activities including organizations that provide low income housing, that this type of money these in-lufees could be used for. Now, as I've said before, this is a totally separate discussion from the policy of whether those in-lufees make sense, whether the hiatus that we have in the downtown commercial core or in the Red Hill area, the Red Hill specific planned core, or if those are helping, if the in-lufee has been a problem and with spur development. But we already had the development. So I would again, would encourage everybody to reconsider this, both for the risks that it involves and for the policy decision that it reflects. Thank you. I'm gonna move the item. Are there any further comments or a second? Second. Motion to second for the comments. Madam City Clerk, roll call please. Council member F no councilmember schnell hi councilmember Gallagher hi mayor person nielson yes mayor lumber yes motion carries 4-1 with councilmember fink dissenting thank you next we have item 8 which was pulled by councilmember schnell which is to approve plans and specifications and authorize advertisement for bids for Tusson Sports Park, turf renovation field number three. Council Member Schnell. Great. Thank you. I see Chad out there. So, you know, I've been on City Council for two and a half years. Time flies when you have a good time. But one of the first tours I did in my physical capacity was actually to do tours of the different parks. and test and have an amazing array of all sorts of parks. And this particular park, Tutton Sports Park, Field 3 was... BAM! that he was actually to do tours of the different parks. And we are blessed in testing to have an amazing array of all sorts of parks. And this particular park, Tufts and Sports Park, Field 3 was kind of near and dear to my heart because I played in a men's softball league. Slow pitch softball. And the field actually was a bit of a mess. I was always concerned running around that I would end up stepping in a hole and breaking an ankle. So when Chad, Dr. Parks and Rec took us out, I said, hey, when are we going to actually put some money and fix this field so no one gets hurt and so he doesn't get sued. So I'm very happy to see that this particular field and other fields across Tussin are actually in the part are actually getting renovated. We have a lot of people, a lot of interest in sports. And again, I'm glad to see that we're taking these older facilities and upgrading. So thank you Chad. It's a lot of awesomeness. I'm sure it's going to look great when it's done. So I appreciate it. Was that a motion? Yeah, motion. I moved it. I'll second that, any further comments? Just one question and clarification. And just mostly I think for the public, because we're talking about turf renovation and staff might want to answer. But to clarify, we're renovating with grass and not ask- and clarification and just mostly I think for the public because we're talking about turf renovation and staff might want to answer But to clarify we're renovating with grass and not astro turf. So it's it's natural services. Yes, so Okay motion and second further comments Manacity clear I Council member Gallagher. I may your Aye. Councillor Emberstner. Aye. Councillor M. M. McGallagher. Aye. Mayor Prosim Nielsen. Yes. Mayor Lombard. Aye. O. Shippe passes 5-0. Okay, next we have, I don't number 9, which I've pulled and I need to recuse myself for this. Conflict of interest so I'll hand it over to Mayor Pro Tem. Mayor Mr. Mayor I also have a real property interest so I need to choose myself We'll be in the back. Hopefully don don't need this, but I'll hand it to you. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Wow. It's a little bit of a vacuum there, but anyway. Okay, I'll bring this to item number nine. City Council consideration are approval to release a competitive offering for approximately 61 acres of city on real estate with a neighborhood G planning areas 15 a and 15 c of the test and legacy specific plan. Do we have any staff comments or presentations on this? No comments or presentations. Okay. Okay. Do I have any motions on this? I'll second it. Any further discussion? Yeah, I'd like to just raise an issue. And I sure we've all had briefing about this and for the public's edification. This is to put out an offering of a large chunk of what's called neighborhood G, but if that means anything to you, there's that big, empty, large empty space, sort of south of the train station. And it's sort of for sort of a big chunk of that area on the south end of that, just north of the Greenwood community and a couple of other spots. And I think it's important that we move forward with this in some fashion. And my only concern about this, and I'm open to this, right? And I mentioned it to staff and I'm curious about what other folks think, is obviously part of the consideration. And it's only part is that two of our colleagues here have had to recuse themselves to deal with this. And that is a large chunk of area that we could singularly, you know, in one big master plan address and could offer together. And there's a host of reasons about that, but one of them that has come up is, well, it doesn't include the mayor and council member Matt Gallagher because they're part of that. And my concern is, are we planning, making our plans for the city for big, big space based on those circumstances? And I think it's important to think about this whole area collectively, just like we're doing with all of legacy with this upcoming upcoming project with JPW Group, it's important to think about this whole neighborhood G collectively because what we do in the South will sort of inevitably affect what happens in the North part of it. So I'm just, I'm a little concerned and I'm curious about everybody else's thoughts about that and I'm open to. Well, into what people think. Frankly, it's not just because of Mayor Lombard and Council Member Gallagher is having two recues. It's also because of product type and speciality for the particular planning for the particular areas within neighborhood G. So if you look at the specific planning areas, as you go farther north towards Ed and juror and the train station, you're looking at transit oriented development, which is, you know, considerably different than what we'd be looking at for the southern end of neighborhood G. So the differences in types of developers, types of product would be quite a bit different. So I think that's one of the reasons why this has been bifurcated in this manner. And I think it's a wise thing to do. Also, when we come back from the north side and we're looking at potential transit-oriented development, then we'll have full participation, which I think is more of an exercise in democracy. So anyway, we have a motion and a second on the floor. Any further discussion? Okay. So let's take a vote. Can I say Mr. Mayor Pro Tem? I appreciate that particular point you made. Both of those. One is there's different types of homes that may well be built in different places. Though we could do that with one master developer. But I also like what you said about democracy, because both the mayor and council member Gallagher were elected to help be part of this process. So I think that's an important point. And I'm glad you raised that, because it's appreciate that, that thought and what it means to. Because they, they're, especially, especially that Council Member Gallagher is elected to represent that whole area. So his input in there is pretty important. So I appreciate that. Okay. All right, we have a motion and a second on the floor. Roll call vote, please. Council Member Pink. Hi. Council Member Schnell. Hi. May I put it on Nelson? Aye. Council Member Schnell. Aye. Mayor Pertham Nielsen. Yes. Motion passes 3-0. Thank you very much. Okay. Thank you all for participating. If somebody can go get the mayor and council member Gallagher, we will continue. the We have our public hearing portion of the agenda. We have item number 11, which is community development block grant. Welcome back. You. All right. Next we have our public hearing portion of the agenda. We have item number 11, which is community development block grant consolidated plan for program years 2025 to 2029. And one your action plan for program year 2025 to 2026. Open the press the public hearing and we have a presentation by senior management analyst Adrian Delivo.. Hello, Miriam Lombard. Thank you for that introduction. Good evening to you, members of the City Council. Again, my name's Adrian Deliva. I'm the Senior Management Analyst in our wonderful community development department. And I'm gonna keep my presentation short and sweet for you tonight. But I'm here to request approval for a few of our usual reports for the Community Development Block Grant Program. So to start off this evening, I'll just share a little bit of background on the Community Development Block Grant Program and just for simplicity's sake throughout my presentation tonight, I'm going to refer to the program just as CDBG. So with that the CDBG program was initiated by the federal government in 1974 and the main intent of this program is to provide federal grant funds to cities to invest back into their communities to benefit low and moderate income residents, but while also ensuring that the funds are spent to provide decent housing, to create a suitable living environment, and also to expand economic opportunities within the community. And during the upcoming fiscal year of 2025-26, the City of Tentustin does anticipate receiving approximately $700,000 in grant funding for our program. Now, we'll move into just a very quick overview of the reports that are up for consideration this evening. There are two main types of reports that are required for the CDBG program, and the first one that's before you this evening is a five-year document called the Consolidated Plan. And this is that big picture plan that provides a lot of community housing and economic data. But most importantly, it outlines the community's needs, goals and priorities. And it also tells us where we're going to focus our funding for the next five years. And then the second reporting requirement that we have for this program is our annual application to HUD for our program funds and we prepare this every year and it's called an action plan. So the primary purpose of the action plan is just to outline how the city is going to use our CDBG funds for the upcoming year, but also ensuring that this action plan aligns with the goals and the priorities that we establish when we prepare that five-year con plan. Now communities are permitted to develop their own programs and funding priorities for their grants, but whatever we end up using our grant funding on, we need to meet at least one of the three CDBG national objectives. So those funds should benefit low and moderate income persons and here in the city of TUSD in this is the primary focus of how we use our grant funding, which is to benefit those low and moderate income test and residents, as well as target areas of the city. But the funds could also aid in the prevention or elimination of slum and blight, or we could use them to meet an urgent or any other emergency type of need. And on this slide here, we have just a very brief timeline of the approval process for both the con plan and the action plan. So we started off in February where we had a community meeting for our citizen participation committee and they met to discuss and provide recommendations to the city council on those priorities for the community needs that are included in your draft con plan tonight. The next step in the process is the public hearing tonight where the city council is going to review and approve our con plan and action plan, and those are due to be submitted to HUD on May 16th, and then our program year will kick off on July 1st. Now moving along, we're taking a look here at the funding recommendations that are before you tonight. So listed here on this slide are all of the nonprofit funding recommendations and our nonprofits and testin are funded on a three year funding cycle. So all of the nonprofits that you see listed here are going to be recommended to continue to receive funding for that third and final year of our funding cycle. And I can also affirm for the City Council that City staff has monitored each of these nonprofits. And we've determined that they are all eligible to continue to receive our grant funding. They're all doing an excellent job of providing those services to our residents. And this slide here shows the balance of our CDBG funds, which are awarded to what we call non-public services. And that includes a variety of activities like facility improvements, community preservation activities, fair housing services, along with program administration. And a full summary with more details on each of these activities was included as an attachment to your staff report this evening. And I also would like to remind the City Council that although we don't have our final funding allocation for our grant release just yet, we will be able to adjust the funding allocations that you've seen either up or down proportionally based on that final funding amount that we end up receiving. And we have heard from HUD that they should be releasing our allocations next month in May. So we hope to hear from them soon on the final amount that we'll end up getting for our grant program this year. So with that, I'll wrap up my presentation tonight with a recommendation for the City Council that you adopt resolution number 2523 approving the 2025 to 2029 consolidated plan, which includes the proposed use of program year 2025 26 CDBG funds for inclusion in our action plan, and then authorize the community development director to submit the con plan to HUD and make any minor modifications that are needed for the program. So that does conclude my brief quick presentation tonight. Thank you so much to the City Council, though, for your support for this program for all these years. And I also want to give a special shout out. I know a number of our nonprofits submitted some e-commerce to the City Council, just speaking to the positive impact that their programs are having for our community. So I wanted to again say thank you to them for all of their support that they provide to our community. And I'm here also if you have any questions about the program. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. This is a public hearing. So I have to receive public input. in this region before I do that? No, just want to compliment Adrian and staff on, you know. this is a public hearing so I have to receive public input. We have questions for Adrian before I do that. No, just want to compliment Adrian and staff on, you know, I've forgotten how comprehensive a report that is and you guys did an excellent job. I gotta tell you, thank you very much for doing that. Thank you. All right, public input for this item. If any members of the public wish to address the council, please submit a request to speak for them. If you're participating through Zoom, please raise your hand. Madam City clerk, any requests to speak on this item? No, miss Mayer. Anybody in the... for this item. If any members of the public wish to address the council, please submit a request to speak for them. If you're participating through Zoom, please raise your hand. Madam City clerk, can you request to speak on this item? No, miss. Where? Anybody in the room? Okay, well, close public input. And I'm going to note for the record, as was mentioned by staff, that the council did receive five written comments on this item, which have been distributed to the council and made available to the public on the city's website. I'm gonna close the public hearing, bring it back to the council for questions, comments, or discussion, any comments? Or all in routine motion? Council member Fink. Yeah, just two comments, Mayor. First, maybe we might be more. First, thank you to staff for putting this together. Second, thank you to the, there's three comments. Second, thank you to the nonprofit organizations who participated in submitted comments supporting this. I'm actually involved with one of them, Family Promise Orange County. So I appreciate family promises work, as well as everybody who's involved in that family's forward. Mom, Mary's path, boys and girls club that I went to as a gift so thank you all for that. The third is just a reminder to everybody that the community development block grant program is a program that is constantly on the chopping block in Washington, DC. So for those of you, especially the non-profits who are receiving funding in this third year of this three year program, who want to see another round of it in the future and for those of you in the non-profit community that have not been involved in this and want to put in for the next round. The program's got to exist, so please support this program with your representatives in Washington and we'll be doing that too. Thank you. Thank you. Additional comments, questions? Yeah, just a quick one. I think this is a consistent program that benefits our community and I think in Washington there has been a lot of panic as far as budget cuts and everything else goes. So it looks like you know this is a me potato's program and I think the likelihood of this being cut in the future is probably pretty minimal. Thank you. Additional comments, questions? Motion? I'll move motion. I'll give you the motion. I'll second it Now the city clerk will call please Councilor Murphy. Hi, Councilor Murchnell. Hi, Councilor McGallagher. Hi, Mayor for Tim Nielsen. Yes, Mayor Lumberde. Hi motion passes Thank you Next we have other business mr. City manager. Do you have a report tonight? Yes, thank you, Mayor the public art We are all at Veteran Sports Park that staff recommended that Council approved that our last meeting was completed today. So more awesome work. Do you have a report tonight? Yes, thank you Mayor. The Public Art Bureau at Veteran Sports Park that staff recommended that Council approved at our last meeting was completed today. So more awesome work by our Parks Department and our Public Art Commission. Had a nice enhancement to our park. It looks really good too. You can see it from the car line that my kids school and it's a nice addition to that park. So thank you. Mr. City Attorney, do you have a report? I have no further report. Thank you. We'll bring it to the council for our report. Is council member Fink? Thank you, Mayor. Just. Thank you. Mr. City Attorney, do you have a report? I have no further report. Thank you. We'll bring it to the council for our report. It's council member Fink. Thank you, Mayor. Just a few comments. One is I last week I was able to attend the test and area council for fine arts exhibition that was here at the community center and in the live actually was in the library for students in testing unified art exhibition and there was some great art paint paintings photography digital works graphic design there was a young woman who'd painted a self-portrait and who was, I saw later roaming around the gallery and I recognized her. That was the same person that had done that self-portrait. So very impressive. And so thank you for everybody involved in that. I was able to come to the community yard sale that was here at City Hall on the 12th. And again, thanks to the Parks Department. There was a huge turnout for that. A lot of business being done. And so it's a very useful thing, especially for folks who aren't able to necessarily have their own yard sale are able to put that out. Here at the Clipton Community Center, the Orange County Public Library was having last night, the Slice of Literary OC event with Jennifer Weiner. And so I happened on the tail end of that event last night, but that's a great event that they do. A lot of events are here with authors speaking. They have signed books. So I encourage folks to check out the Orange County Public Library schedule about that. A lot of those are right here in Tustin because we've got the space here for it right with the library. I just wanted to say I also was able to meet with Chief Thelese last night appreciate getting a chance to get to know him more and understand what he's dealing with and figuring out in the, you know, his first month here. And so I appreciate that I'm looking forward to a lot of that. I will say to that that I mentioned to him and one of the things that I'm concerned about that I'll be looking at is the homeless problems in Peppertree Park. We wanna make sure we're addressing that. A lot of our organizations, like Family Promise, and that families forward and others, help our homeless population, our on-house population, our people in population who are housing insecure. And so we want to make sure we have great services in test and we have a shelter, we have a contract with CityNet, which I'll be learning more about. So there's a lot of opportunities for that, but we also need to make sure that our parks are safe. And I know the chief is working on that. It's one of two things he brought up is always a critical issue. Coming up looking forward to the Easter egg hunt this Saturday. We'll be there looking forward to that. Also Blue Bowie has a water safety event on April 26th, and so my daughter is in that swim school, and so we'll be going to that. And Juan, also note that there's an opening of a new art gallery here in Teston, near the on-prospect, just north of 1st Street, near the Trek Bicycle Shop, various small fires, that's opening up in a couple of weeks, so it'll be an interesting and new addition to our cultural scene in Tustin. The last thing that I wanted to say, I don't want to steal anybody's thunder, but this just happened, and I don't know, I never know since I go first with somebody else who's going to mention it, but I'll let others comment. But we did pass a really big thing, which is our member end of agreement with the Test and Police Officers Association. And so a new three-year agreement with our police officers union. The fact that it happened so quickly, quietly, and without, you know, months before is a testament to the good relationship between the city, the police officers' association. So I'm glad to do that. Help us, help us make sure we drive the economic development to help fund those things. But I know that having the police officers' association and our patrol officers and next level supervisors, pleased with that agreement will help build that economic base in the city. So I don't want to steal into it in Sunday. I just never know when I go first. Who's going to talk about it? Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Councilmember Schnell. Thank you, Mayor. Appreciate it. Three items that are all kind of tied together. So I had a lunch meeting with the president of the Tusson Police Officers Association who's standing right there. Thank you, Officer Vincent. You shaved your mustache. Quite sure if your girlfriend requested that you do that. And then also with Officer Hence. And we spent quite a bit of time talking about the strategic plan, but also about school safety, which I know is near and dear to everyone's heart. We want to see that our kids go to school, come back for in school safely. So we had a detailed conversation about that. On the heels of that lunch meeting, I also had the opportunity to tour the real-time operation center, which is fortunately based in Tuston. It's an amazing facility. Our city manager, although Schindler, was kind enough to join in with that as well. And it's a hub that aggregates real-time data from multiple police organizations in Orange County that can be leveraged and used as a force multiplier to keep multiple cities safe and keep our officers safe. So we're looking at ways that we can leverage the RTOC and the technology that they're deploying and things that we already have out in the city right now that we might be able to access again to look at better ways that we can police more effectively and again keep our residents safe. And then the last part of public safety, similar to Councilmember Fink, I had a really nice lunch with our new chief of police. It was great to get a sense for his general philosophy of life, his philosophy around his approach to public safety and policing. We did also talk a little about the RTOC tour that I did and again, what's the way that we can kind of tap into some of the technology to, again, keep you guys and gal safer and our citizen safer. And then also school safety was a top conversation. Like, what can we do as we go into the next school year to ensure that our, you know, the young men and women that go to the Tufts and Unified School District remain safe? On 4-9, did tour the families forward corporate office, which was amazing. They do really, really fantastic work. And over the fiscal year 2324, they have served 180 households and 670 individuals. So, a gradacy that we're continuing, a carryover in funding. And then obviously we'll see if we continue that funding moving forward, but they do, again, amazing work. On April 10th, attended the toll roads, joint meeting of boards and directors, a couple of highlights is we approved our capital improvement plan, which mainly is the 241-91 express connector, which will start at the end, hopefully, of 2025, which will be kind of an HOV link that takes you from the 241 into the 91, also some improvements on the 241 Loma as well as the 73. Very good projects to help continue the flow of traffic around Orange County. And then we also did our environmental certification with the 241 91 Express express connector, finish up, 410, head coffee, the top, great spend time with the five men and women of the Tusson Police Department, and then on April 11th, the 10th of the Newport Beach Police Appreciation Luncheon, great event celebrating the good works, life saving work that the men and women of the Newport Beach Police Department do, and seeing if there's ways we might be able to bring that same type of event into Tusson. So that concludes my report. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. Council Member Gallagher. Two quick items. I see a chat out there. We've got to give a shout out every meeting. We attended my family attended the youth track meet on April 5th. The kids had a blast. Two of them participated. They did not do well. We were just fortunate that they ran in the right direction. But due to a mix up with the recording system, I think one of- to have them participated, they did not do well. We were just fortunate that they ran in the right direction. But due to a mix up with the recording system, I think one of them actually got last place, but it showed him as third place. So we were fortunate, I don't know if Chad had anything to do with that, but I tip my hat to you, sir. And then on April 8th, on behalf of wearing my hat as the Board Chair for Orange County Centetation District, I and several of the staff attended a advocacy day in Sacramento with Townsend. Townsend is actually the same consultant that we use at the City of Tusson. And they were fantastic. They've got great connections. And it was an effective day. Orange County Centertation District is embarking on some really innovative regional projects that are going to help rate payers for Orange County Cntonetation District and some of the technology they're using. So it was cool to educate some of the legislators. Actually we didn't really meet a whole lot. We educated their staff, but it was still an effective day and appreciated towns that I'm excited that we're using the same consultant because they are good. That's it. Thank you, Mr. Mayor Bro Tim. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. On April 2nd, attended the Tussent Citizens Academy meet and greet. So as. Mr. Mayor Bro So, we have some veterans there, you know. We have a couple of folks that are familiar with the city, so they want to get re-familiarized, so it's great. So good turnout for all, and looks like a sizable class. So I'll catch up with that class in a couple different things that they have over the course of the term. So that was fun. Okay, on April 11th, attended the Tuscany High School dance team, Summer Extravaganza. It was great to watch young ladies so disciplined and you know got a lot of rhythm much more than I do and much more dance talent than I do, but luckily my daughter does, so she's good and she's the coach of the team. I'm not going to be a big part of the team. I'm not going to be a big part of the team. I'm not going to be a big part of the team. I'm not going to be a big part of the team. I'm not going to be a big part of the team. I'm not going to be a big part of the team. make sure you go visit. So that's all good. And today I helped to host the Test and Annual Tried Club Luncheon. And that's the three major service clubs in town. Get together, it's Test No Slients Club, Test and Santa Ana Rotary Club and Test and Quannis Club. It was good to hear all the projects and see what we can work together on to help improve the community and was well attended by all three clubs and our guest speaker was Orange County Superintendent of Schools, Dr. Stefan Bean, who did an awesome job. And also I will be at the April 19th Easter Egg hunt and games. I have been volunteered to be part of the games section where we'll have 5,000 kids under nine come rushing over there. And if you've never experienced it in your life, you have to at least do it once. So it's a good thing and we'll be helping to run some of the kid games over there and we'll be cooking a popcorn. So come by and say hi. So that's all I have for this evening, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Just briefly, I too was at the Citizens Academy Meet and Greet on April 2nd, and as most of us were, and I wanted to thank staff for your participation in that event and the entire program. Madam City Clerk, your team does a fantastic job, fantastic job and it was evidenced by the enthusiasm by not only the attendees from the student perspective but the staff members. So thank you all for making that happen. It's a special program that we put on. On April 9th, I chaired the OCFA Budget and Finance Committee meeting and talked about the generally positive outlook of OCFA finances. And I, it's been a pleasure to serve on that board and on that committee. OCFA is a model for aggressive pay down policies for pension liabilities and I think every city in the county really should should take note from the way OCFA is doing that. And we do a good job here but OCFA is very aggressive and very positive outlook. And then yeah, happy to see everyone. Hope to see you out there on Saturday at Tess and Sports Park. For the Eastbury Cunt. And with that, we will adjourn tonight's meeting. The next meeting is scheduled on Tuesday, May 6, 2025 for the closed session meeting at 4 30 PM and the regular business meeting at 6 PM. Thank you. Have a good night.