I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room tax day, April 14th, the meeting of the Lohabrite City Council to order. roll call,. Brian. Here. Greg. Yeah. Carol. Yeah. Norm. Here. And John's here. So let's all stand and do flag salute. A pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the Republic, we're just saying one thing under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all of us. All right. One second, one, the future. So Mayor, we did discuss some items in closed session as listed on the agenda and there's no Reportable action at this time that is all Thank you Attorney Just one second I just got to get the agenda pulled up There we go. All right. I'm afraid. So it looks like we have a presentation by the fire department on the recently donated CPR, Lucas CPR machine. Are you going to walk us through this or do you have someone Right and have the crew that does it and also presentation by Chief Jorgensen, okay, all right. Come on in. So in March 26th, 2025, the Haber Heights Fire Department was officially approved by the LA County EMS Agency to operate the Lucas Chess Compression Device for patients in non-traumatic cardiac arrest. Some of the key points I'd like to provide, or that the Lucas device provides uninterrupted cardiac chest compression is delivered at a consistent rate and depth while allowing for full chest recoil. It also allows for multitasking while administering medications, defibrillation, and providing for airway management. It also decreases provider fatigue ensuring that the patient receives the highest quality CPR over extended periods aligned for medications to perform their intended task. Rosgrades, which is what we refer to as return of spontaneous circulation, these are patients that we resuscitate in the field with a pulse and blood pressure. However, Rosgrades for pre-hospital cardiac arrest without a Lucas device actually are between just 5% to 8%. With the Lucas device, Ross grades have shown improved rates above the 30%. So on behalf of the Le Haber Heights Fire Department, I would like to thank Gill Taylor, Rick Brooks, Ray Fernandez, the Le Haber Heights Improvement Association, as well as the Los Compadres for their donation of this truly life saving device. Right now, we go ahead and have the firefighters and paramedics, the Le Hobbriets Fire Department from Medichin 7 and 7, 7, 1, form a demonstration. Yes, yes, so this device is kept on the engine 24.7 and we already have had 90% of our crew trained in this device. And right now the firefighters are initially providing chest compressions while the device is actually set up. So they put a back back plate on they put the device over the back plate They pull the piston down confirming that it's in the proper location They push a button and uninterrupted chest compression is about to 120 per minute are provided at the proper rate and depth for consistency This allows for multitasking Again decreases provider fatigue. And frees our crews up to do everything else that we need to do during a cardiac arrest. We can also use this to attach to a stair chair. It's mobile. We can move this downstairs, put our prop the patient up to a 90 degree, they're chest up to a 90 degree angle and put it in an elevator as well without stopping chest compressions. Any questions? Yes, sir? That doesn't crack. No. No, what you're referring to is just the intercostal contractions that you normally would normally happen during chest compressions. This isn't going to do anything outside of normal intercostal compression that happens between the ribcage. That's that cracking that you would feel. Yes, sir. It's a good question. So the patient criteria for this, they just have to be able to fit within the device. And there's too small, there's lines on the inside. So it just depends, because you could say no one under the age of 13, but some children are larger than others. So it really just depends if they fit inside, or the plunger doesn't really get into a good spot on the chest. And obviously if they're too big, like we can't get the arms around the body. Does that answer your question, sir? Thank you. No, no, that's going to be all mechanical manipulation on our end. Yes, we do. We can currently provide for airway management. Absolutely not, sir. Great. Thank you very much, guys, I appreciate it. Okay. We have a presentation by Catherine Halling on the Point A Hill CTAC and vector control update. Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Pespisco. Members of the council, staff and citizens of the Harbor Heights, I along with Roy Francis and Adam Nazaroff are appointed by the City Council to represent the Harbor Heights on the Pentehills Habitat Citizens Technical Advisory Committee. Adam is the chair this year and I'm still the liaison to the board. I have been since I started in CTAG. I provided the City Manager the monthly update reports from the habitat authority provided to the mayor each month this year about relevant matters related to the city. I was wondering if you could please add this information to public record. The habitat authority does a lot of things in the background that many Le Harbor Heights citizens may not be totally aware of, and I'm only going to mention the highlights from the first quarter of 2025. The Habitat Board and staff have met with our new Fire Marshal and they're very excited to be working with him. The Habitat staff provided information about the RMC state funding workshop and plant identification to the Le Harbor Heights Fire Department. And both the Habitat and the Fire Department are coordinating fire locks for emergency access points. And just an FYI, whenever the Habitat Authority does vegetation clearance, it is viewed and signed off by the fire marshal. So I'm going to talk about three different areas. The first protection from fire, how do they do this? Fuel clearance. Extra clearance happened this past year because a habitat authority received extra funds. Since the beginning of 2025, in Powder Canyon, the habitat removed hazardous trees along Black walnut trail, emergency access route, and fallen trees in the Powder Canyon. With the conservation core of Long Beach, vegetation clearance from the emergency access route off of skyline drive near the water tank was done. Dried brush fire clearance was done in various areas throughout Laharber Heights. And gold grazing has been very efficient way to clear the brush and we may see them in years to come. The second we have the rangers. The rangers have been in our on patrol with type six engines. They carry about 100 to 200 gallons of water on their trucks in case they come into a small fire, which is a great backup for the La Harbor Heights fire department. The rangers maintain a 24 hour response and monitor local weather patterns to adjust for extreme fire predictions. And just on the side, one continues issue that the Raid rainders deal with is illegal dumping in the habitat property and they've been cleaning up these messes. Then the third is the remediation of the hills. What I mean by that is to replace the combustive non-native vegetation with native plants. And the native plants tend to be lower in their ability to catch, you know, for catching fire. The habitat restoration of 75 acres this year in Powder Canyon has been completed and received final federal approval. The total habitat restoration in Laharbah Heights is approximately 130 acres. Now we talk about safety. The Rangers monitor the activities on the hills and in the preserve, they are licensed peace officers as well. An example to protect the wildlife activity, trails do not allow motorized bikes, and that's monitored by the Rangers. Also, the trails would become overgrown very quickly and potentially disappear if the staff and Rangers were not actively monitoring the constant need for trimming of vegetation. The trails are closed when we have rain or potential fire danger. And closures are based on decisions made by the Rangers, the habitat staff and theitat board. Then the thirdly, we have the community outreach and education. The Habitat volunteers conduct two public hikes on Thursdays and Sundays, starting at the Black Wallnut Trail, and all are welcome to go there. For information, go to the website www.habitatauthority.org or meetup.com, forward slash 20 hills, preserve hikers. The habitat authority staff was present at the city's Firesafe workshop on March 3rd, and our chief ranger attended the multi-agency wildland fire drill last week. I encourage all residents to feel free to reach out to myself, Adam Nazaroff, or Ray Francis, with any questions about the Habitat Authority. And more information go to the website habitatauthority.org, or special media sites, social media sites, such as Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, or Meetup. Do you have any questions or anything you'd like me to? First, I'm really glad I had a pretty hot. That you're helping pick up the litter when people dump stuff. So if somebody sees something in the heights, can we send an email to someone and away? I guess I'm to Ken. Ken Hughes. Ken Hughes? Yeah. The Ranger. If you have, if you'd see, and dumping things on the habitat, yeah, they've- I have his information, too. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Hey, you're welcome. So a couple of things, A, you can thank Andrea for sending us the updates. They started, you know, after the January 7th fires and some inquiries I had about what the Habitat was doing, Net New. I'm still interested in what's Net New. I haven't seen it. In our updates, these are kind of like just the normal situational updates. I'm also really interested in understanding. I appreciate the work the habitat does, and I see that they're cutting down trees and they're clearing brush. My question is, how are they determining what their very limited budget? What the right tree is to cut, what the right brush is to cut that reduces the risk the most? And I've asked that question now several times and I still have not gotten an answer from the habitat and I think it's something that we really as a city need to understand is. I can research that for you. Yeah, so I've been asking about and I'd like for a Fire Marshal to review the risk based approach that the habitat is taking to manage their land. And I really would like our Fire Marshal review that and provide input in it before they start executing on it. So if I've asked for it a couple times and it would be good for not to you, not to you, Catherine. But as a representative- I have a reason that's a big voice in this. Yeah, so is our representative on CTAC? Well, the equipment. Yeah, as our representative our representative on CTAC, if you could take that back and say, hey, I'm presented to the council, they were very appreciative of the updates. But they would really like to understand going forward. How do you choose the trees that you have, the areas that you are, and you want to have more involvement with the fire marshal? Well, what I'd like them to do is the specific word is risk. So I'd like for them to understand. I'd like for us to understand how they're going to develop a risk based approach for managing that land, especially as it pertains to brush clearance. And then I'd really like for them to partner with our fire marshal make sure that We're in alignment with yes those are the those are the risks that we're seeing That's where your limited funds should go to to provide the greatest protection for our residents And sort of have where the interface this the city does this what's a habitat doing for this part? Yeah, I'll send you I'll send you a. So that when you go back to CTAC, you can bring the Hobber Heights concerns to that. And you know I can make a lot of noise. People know that. OK. So I think we have a handout from February 3rd email with this map on it. I can't tell from looking at the map what I'm looking at. I don't even know where it is. Is there a way we could designate roads or something that would give us an idea of where these clearance are? I mean, this is a large spectrum. I guess this is entire preserve. Yes, it is. So from my perspective, I can't. You've done a lot of free clearing. You've done some restoration. It would be better if there was a clearer picture and it was more focused on so we could figure out how it fits our topography. Okay. So if you take that back, that would be good. We'll do that. Thank you. Any other questions for the habitat? I think we can do the vector update. Okay. Thank you. During this season, disease transmission due to mosquito bites is low. The summer season is when we have the greatest potential for transmission of diseases like dangle fever, chikankanga, chikaganya, zika, west mountain, Nile virus and yellow fever. Factor control would like to come and visit the city council to give a presentation. Summer is the high season, so early spring would be ideal for people to be reminded of good habits before the mosquito season begins. Mosquitoes don't fly very far from their water sources, so if you don't have any standing water anywhere and you have a lot of mosquitoes, maybe your neighbors do. So vector control does have door hangers to educate neighborhoods. And you can also call vector control and they'll send out the technician to find out where are these sources, you know, knock on doors and so forth. You know, join the mosquito watch program. You can learn to create safer neighborhoods, reduce mosquito threats and prevent mosquito bites and enjoy the outdoors again. There are programs and resources for schools like the mosquito SWAT lab, flyers, and information that can be posted, and they have a site to download information for anyone who's interested. Are you concerned about your pond as a breeding ground? The vector control technician can not orange county, but greater LA vector control district of call. And you can also ask for the BGI donuts for for control in the water. Prevention is key for the control of the mosquito-borne diseases. The diseases of mosquitoes carry can potentially be life-threatening. Creating good habits and removing their water source habitats will reduce the risk of having any mosquitoes with diseases from breeding and thus making a safer environment for all. In response to the persistent nuisance and disease threat by a city's mosquitoes, and I want to make the reminder that it's the female who bites you and has the male with you, not the male. So vector control has been releasing sterilized non-biting male mosquitoes into a pilot area to reduce the mosquito population. The female will mate with them and create like the 100 to 300 eggs that are non-fertil, thus creating no offspring. This will significantly reduce future mosquito populations without the use of pesticides. And so far, the data has been very positive in results. And we're at a point where it's time to expand the area for the release of these sterile males. So this is called the SIT technique. And I think this is going to be the future for control of the future mosquitoes. So please visit the website, glamasquito.org for more information or call the vector control for information. That would be the information for that. Any questions? I do represent by the way Laharber Heights on their board of trustees. So La Harbor Heights is always in the house when I'm there. Everyone's been getting any of the sterile mosquitoes? They're in the process now deciding where they're going next. They had this one area because it was more confined like the mosquitoes tend to be in the area and they would go and collect and see how many non-stereal females were created. Right now they need to expand the program so they're in the process of making the labs larger so they can, we're actually, we're very efficient in the sense that we're actually creating our own mosquitoes at this time. And so, I mean, in the sense we get them and we sterilize them. So, we don't create them, no. But yeah, to me, it's an exciting area because it's not going to affect the humans except for reducing our exposure to them. Any other? Kathy, thank you so much for your time volunteering on both of those boards and for the work that you do there. And I'll shoot you a quick note. You don't have to remember all the stuff. I was gonna sit down and write it down anyways. Okay. Thank you. All right, I only have one card. I don't know if there's anyone else that wants to make any public comment, but I just have one card from Glenn. Okay, Stephen. Let me do a line and then we'll. Good evening, council members. Staff, consultants, public. My name's, and the Varnassian to Road, Lahabah Heights. I have submitted a letter with attachments to you. Hopefully you have that document. I just wanted to go over a few points with you. Excuse me, for the past four years, the city has been dealing with the various laws regarding the state's de facto takeover, the local planning process. The latest struggle involves the six cycle of the regional housing needs assessment or Rina, R-H-N-A. You're currently seeking to get approval of your March 2025 RENA submittal. If not approved, or you do not carry out all of the proposed actions included in that that's a middle, the state will basically be taking over the planning process in this city. In the legislative session that just started, more bills are being considered to further take away local control of the planning process. Check out SB 79 by Weiner, for instance, that's Senator Weiner. To stop this takeover, we the people need to put a proposition on the ballot and vote to restore local control. There's only one group that I'm aware of that is promoting such an approach, that is our neighborhood voices, also known as OMB. Their draft initiative would restore local control of cities and counties. A SCAG, which I believe the city is a member of, Southern California Association of Governments, endorses OMV and the Mission to Restore Local Control. I've attached the draft OMV initiative to the letter I've submitted to you, and a list of endorsers to the letter. I ask that you review the materials, visit the OMB website, perhaps contact some of the endorses for their views. Then I ask you to bring forward an action declaring the Haber Heights supports the objectives of a proposed initiative to take back local control. Further, I ask that you as individuals declare to ONV your endorsement of ONB's local control initiative. You'll see there are many, many leaders, public leaders who have done so. They're not representing their city, only themselves, but they have endorsed the initiative. I've also attached to this letter, your Res0 2020-36. That was approved by you in October of 2020. The title of which reads in part, a resolution expressing support for actions to further strengthen local democracy, authority and control. It appears that this based on the where-as is in this resolution, you were specifically targeting the loss of local control. So I know that two of you were signatories to that document. Hopefully we can have another one. Again, we need to take back local control. Thanks for your time and also thanks for the sacrifices you make representing we the people. Thank you, Glenn. Sure. Lasty and black and citron road. I have a few things we debatement. One of your agenda item size is a proven 1.6 million approximately for road project. The city's residents have spent millions of dollars on five road projects so far, which includes clearing back dirt and slough that has come down, covering the roads and shrinking them up to four or five feet, shrunk the width of the roads. Part of brush cleanering is for people to remove the dirt, the property from the street, and that's very important, especially for the roads that have already been done, or else we're going to be back in the same situation with the roads narrowed by dirt. Next is, you do have that 22-23 project for completion. I essentially email about some items that appear not to have been done that we're going to be deducted from the payment. I can't tell without seeing the change order if the deductions were made, but they were supposed to be deducted for berms that weren't done according to the plan. and also a road green view that had about 200 feet that was missed. Next is the homeless measure A item where the city's getting roughly $35,000 a year, which we weren't getting before. One of the state mandates is homeless shelter, but the last five or however many they did, homeless counts and zero people in the hour of heights. But it is still a threat we don't know that maybe some homeless might come, and then what do you do with them? The city of Whittier has a homeless shelter and wrap around services. It will be worth investigating, talking to them and seeing if you can buy a slot or two with that $35,000 knowing that some years maybe most years they'll get the money not do anything, but we won't have to find some place to build a homeless shelter here. And then finally, just listening to what Kathy and the mayor were talking about, Powered Echanian, now, Powered Risk Management is the city side of the equation. I don't know what you work with them on that. But the main risk for fire and power to canyon is not brush its people. If there's no people, there's no fires. So I had mentioned before, the city could do things like clothes, foolish and road and skyline drive, along power to canyon during red flag days so people can't get into Power to Canyon from those two adjacent roads and then you know power lines have caused fires I don't know the conditions of the lines with that something the city could look at too but it's not just brush clearance it's people people management. Keep people out, it's not going to be any fires. Thank you. Thank you, Stephen. Any other public comments? Okay. Committee comments. No committee comments tonight. Any council comments? Okay. I'll just make one on April 4th. The Mayor's of La Habra, Whittier and La Habra Heights did take a tour of the city with LA County Fire, their lead forester and whether they're deputy chiefs. It was very informative. You'll appreciate the fact that the difference between the cities is so significant. When you look at housing density and Whittier and LaHabra in the wildland interface compared to this city. We have the benefit of not having the same density. However, we do have a significantly larger exposure to the habitat than the other two cities had. So again, I plan on working with our fire marshal and working with the habitat. Steve and I hear you on the people thing I've been after the habitat to address when they close the habitat. It's a little too linear for my liking. It requires a red flag day and those, you're already at such a high risk level by that time that it's probably not it's probably too late so I was one to let people know that we were continuing as a council continuing to look at the wildfire risk issue and continuing to work with the habitat in in addressing that as we go forward but also with the adjoining cities to address it. And I know that the mayor of Whittier was very interested in working with La Haber Heights to address the, and as he said in the April 8th Whittier Daily News, that the habitat poses a threat to the city of Whittier. So that was pretty much a quote from him after he completed this tour. So just wanted to follow up on. I don't know how practical it is, but maybe Mr. Blackden's suggestion that the city look at closing skyline and a couple of other areas during high fire danger might be a good option, although it would take manpower. We should really work to coordinate with the habitat. The habitat was closed, the closed the access, and we would be, you know, we wouldn't have to take that action. Anyway, I just wanted to follow that. There wasn't April 8th article in the winner of Daily News that was fairly, fairly good article on this topic. Oh, I have. Thank you, the City Manager's report. You ready? I just wanted to thank the Improvement Association. This past weekend they held their annual East Ray Cont. I know last year was canceled because we got some rain on that that particular Saturday but it was a very nice day out there on Saturday so I saw a few people from a distance but never really got a customer receptor out there and Maripus Beesa but by the time I made it over to areas you, you move to another area. But it was a lot of people out at the park and it was good to see everybody out. The kids having fun and a big showing from the improvement association. Fire Department as well, nature of the Easter Bunny, made it to the park on time. So they had a nice little assist from the fire department and the fire department was hung around for a little while Let the kids take pictures and climb up in the engine and Have a little bit of fun out there. We do have a couple other events that are coming up Coming up here at the end of the month on April 26th is the next quarterly cleanup So that will be at the park starting at 8 a.m. Is quarterly cleanup. So this is bulky items green waste No hazardous waste though. So no like fluorescent light bulbs, batteries, in motor oil and paint. That one typically is held in July and August. We do the household hazardous waste event, which we're trying to coordinate right now. But also on the 26th, it will be our next causticina road cleanup. So if you're interested in attending that one it's it is early in the morning. We meet here about 6.45 in the morning and we go out and walk Hossiener. You can email John Dominguez who helps coordinate that one and you can email him at beautify LHH a Gmail. And that's always a great event to go out and pick up some literal on Hossien, I'm in conjunction with that where it will clean up. And then in May, May 3rd, from 8 to 1030, they'll be composted, give away at the park. So, compost coming up at the park, so that will be on May 3rd from 8 to 1030, they do ask you bring your own containers for the compost, but get some good clean compost from that event there. That's all I have. If you have any questions, have any answer. Questions? All right, city attorney. No report. We need your development. A really only thing to highlight here is in the month of March, the building part was incredibly busy. The building permits that we do every month, we had 25 issued, but all in all the issued 72 permits in the month of March for building. So quite a few permits out the door. It was a little bit over $100,000 in permit fees that went out the door and came in from March. So they spent the combination of people moving through projects, people doing some work, also code enforcement as well. You see them out there, code enforcement officers leaving stop works and getting people in the door to pull permits. So they've just been incredibly busy to. The partnership with our neighboring departments is increasing. We we added two outside agencies orange County fire authority and Braia floor 10 was also invited Area E greatly participated in it last year we had 60 engines this year we had a hundred and six So it's It's very interesting that the dynamics are increasing just because of the recent fires that we've had. So we're looking at all sorts of training avenues so that we can continue to provide the best service possible and to also be prepared in the event that something happens. The only issue that we had where people were a little concerned about the helicopter flying over, but I think that was to be expected. And we were very successful in utilizing our hella tank. People, the members involved, very impressed by it, and it worked perfectly. So outside of that, we just have the monthly report. We are on par. We did have start tracking calls that are in the unincorporated area of Los Angeles County called the La Habra Heights Island. So we had three calls in that area and then we continued to live up to the standard and provide good service to our community and we're working with our partners to help them in the areas that are hard for them to reach like the island. And now we'll defer the updates on the brush clearance to our fire marshal. So in terms of brush clearance, the 2024 brush clearance season commence on May 1, 2024 and will conclude on April 30th of 2025. Brush clearance and vegetation management is continual year round to continual year round program. I know there's a common misconception on the hover highs that we only start on May 1st and then just a few months shy of that. We typically conclude around October, but unfortunately that is not the case and I think that it's ever more important to highlight that be to recent events all parcels in the city shall remain clear at all times 177 176 inspections have been completed to date copies of the brush clearance program guidelines is available to cities website and at city hall and Just for some extra added information preparations are going well for the upcoming brush clearance season and employment ad was posted on our website for a part time seasonal fire inspector and we have received quite a few qualified applicants. Holding interviews for set applicants next week we are also in the process of reviewing the applications to schedule new interviews. The only thing I would like to add is that this is going to be a challenging year. This is my first season as Fire Marshall, however I am eager and I am excited to get started as soon as possible. I am so eager that I actually started on these inspections on January 6th. Personally, I've conducted 87 and I've closed about 50% of those to date. I'm looking for other avenues and other technological avenues, I should say, and how to conduct our brush inspections. I'm currently a member of the Fire Prevention Officers, Southern California chapter, and I am very active in that community. I'm going to attend meetings very regularly in Anaheim down at North Net, which typically are all day once a month. I'm also still managing and running the paramedic program concurrently, but in terms of the brush clearance season and the brush clearance program, eager to really kick this into high into Hyde gear because come May 1st. This is, it's going to be a marathon, not a sprint, but I'm going to treat it like a very long sprint. Any questions? So, and it might be too early to ask this, but I know earlier in the month the new fire maps came out. Is that going to change any aspects of the brush clearance program? I would say yes and no. What it's going to do is it's going to increase our AB 38 inspections, our real estate transaction inspections, and it already has. The fire maps is a continual ongoing discussion that I'm a part of with the Fire Prevention Officers Organization and that was about a 4.5 hour in length topic last week followed by another two hour resume meeting the following day. We have 120 days in total to get these Fire Maps ratified and placed them to our code. But essentially, March 24th is when the initial fire maps came out for the rollout of phase four, which includes Los Angeles County. We're about, what we're coming up on, our first benchmark, which is the first 30 days that we actually had to have that reflected on our city website with a tab that allows for public comment, which we are in the process of doing in terms of adding the public comment tab that will take you straight to like a fire prevention information public comment portal. the next city council meeting we should be revisiting another open public common phase. common portal. The next city council meeting we should be revisiting another open public common phase and then we should be ratifying them within 120 days. Questions? All right. Thank you. Harris report. Good evening. We had two grant thefts to report instance one grant theft auto, two vehicle burglaries, one petty theft, one hidden run instance, one traffic collision, and one theft by false pretense. There were no well-resilent to burglaries for the month of March to report. With that in mind, just to be aware, there is teams of criminals driving around in the area, especially in the heights. If you see a suspicious vehicle, please call us so we can investigate. Before I have, thank you. And that's in the Sina Heights, though. I kind of didn't understand. There's teams of criminals. Burglers? We've had a kind of a rash of burglaries up in the Sina Heights. They're coming from outside the area. So it's easier to get to Sina Heights than than it is to get to the Hobber Heights. And that's probably what we're not seeing, a rash of the burglaries up here. And I also believe in high visibility patrols. So I tell my partners to, they got free time if he's coming home the area. Sometimes just the visibility part gives him thought. Yeah, to go somewhere else. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions? All right, I'll move on to the consent calendar. Anyone want anything full? I have a motion. We'll do food, because that's younger. Second. Ryan. Yes, right? Yes. Carol? Yes. Norm? Yes, John. Yes. All right. Public hearing. I'll open the public hearing for the 2025 annual brush clearance program. Thank you, Mayor. I'll start out on the hand over to our far marshal. This is a continuation or follow-up of our meeting. We had back in February this year when we began the process going through the legal notice in process or abatement of properties that have brush debris and other things on the road properties that are public nuisance as part of that. At that meeting in February, Council adopted resolution 2025-08 that states the council's intention to order the city staff to cause the removal of such nuisances and that public hearing shall be held on April 14th, 2025 at 6.30 p.m. and the council chambers to allow property owners to show cause as to why weeds, rubbish, refuge, and other combustible materials and dirt and debris run off from private property upon public roadways shall not be abated. So this is the meeting for anyone who would like to protest or our brush cleanse program for them to come forward and speak in a public hearing related to this. This as you heard earlier is a very important process where we go through a week, begin conducting inspections of properties to make sure that dead disease, tumor materials that are known to cause increases in fire danger are removed from properties. So as part of that, I'll head back to Chief Georgeson or Fire Marshall to talk a little bit more touch again on some of the things he's going to highlight on his season this year as he's getting ready. Yeah, some of the things that I would like to highlight and a target are some of our major arteries in the city, Hossi and the Castor bean. Looks like some of the over the canopies that are overhanging throughout West Road. Some of the veins that as I go along the rest road that I've already targetedFlore, one in particular, which the residents over there have done a phenomenal job at clearing I want to add. I would also like to, in working with code enforcement, I'm also looking at some of the problem structures, some of the problem parcels I should say. But when I say problem parcels, some, you know, at code enforcement, you know, when they're looking at junk trash debris, that is inherently an issue with, you know, with fire danger as well. And not just brush clearance or vegetation management and all coincisement and all kind of works independently. So in working with code enforcement and working with Dave and Kevin, I'm definitely gonna be targeting some of those problem areas in particular individual structures. But really, it's the major arteries, it's east, which has been on my radar since I started in January. And I've successfully been able to pretty much get from what I can see, at least on the southern part of east road up into the golf course from Hossi and a pretty good grasp of it. And it's a lot of the veins that I'm seeing off Churchill, Skyline, the five acre parcels surrounding kind of encapsulating one of the residences up on Skyline. I targeted my first month out and I'm happy to say that we got that whole thing cleared out. So it's going to be a continual process, not only with that in particular parcel, but also with a lot of the other ones that I'm noticing as well. It's like I said, it's going to be a very long sprint for me, but I'm engaging and I'm looking forward to it. But Caskerbean, Caskerbean and Palm Frons, That's my arch nemesis. Any questions for the chief here? Sorry, Captain. Well, I promoted you, sorry. I came down the back way today, so I drove from East Road down Hossie, and to the city hall. And the weeds are already growing on the city property. Right. And we've had comments and it seems to me, I don't know how it would work out if we could keep the city property clean that would sort of be a model for other people. I don't know if you control that or the city manager but it might be worth looking into. I'll work with Mike and Stitch on some. We'll make sure that we lead by example. And we can find a resident volunteer with a weed whacker that just is bored on the weekends. Thank you. Of course. City parcels are being scheduled for clearance right now. They're being what? Cleared. Scheduled for clearance. When? This week. Oh okay good. That's great. Is that a good example? Anything like me you kind of want to let them grow a little bit. Yeah. Get them when they're mature, so they... Right, they're about that high now, so... So let me go ahead and open up the public comment. Any public comments on this? I know, Stephen, you made a comment earlier about the road debris. Did you have additional on this? Thank you, Stephen Black and Citron Road. You know, I may approach to my angle heart, just mention something that reminded me a sentient information about a governor's executive order about removing vegetation that is flammable, blocking extrudes. And there's the stream between eastern west roads, starting from the park side, going down to west road that's full of, I don't know what is bamboo, rundle, trees. That was all cleared out in 2009 and it's grown back. One of the problems with Keaton is cleared is you need a stream bed alteration permit but with the executive order that expedites the process and you can get that stream cleared out but would have to be done before the end of the year because that's when the executive order ends. Thank you Any other public comment? So I just want to put stop one thing that Captain Jorgensen mentioned and I'm glad that he's addressing this It's not just brush. It's clutter. It's junk. It's stuff that, you know, if there is a fire on a parcel, creates a non-offensible space, and will allow that fire to propagate into another parcel. So, you know, I've said this a couple times, brush clearance and the brush clearance program, and maybe we need to come up with a new term for it. Really, it is. I've said this a couple times, brush clearance and the brush clearance program. And maybe we need to come up with a new term for it, really is a, you know, a fire threat abatement program. The term is actually community risk reduction. And that is the term that every fire department is using. And it doesn't just apply to, to your point, Maripus Beza does not only apply to Burusha, applies to all of the other ancillary components as well that propagate fire. So I just want to make sure the residents understand, you know, it's going to look a little different going forward and it has to look different because of just the threat that fire poses to our city. I know a couple of folks here have taken me up on this, but if you want to see just how devastating the fire could be, just go drive through Altenina. Just go drive from the 63-way north on Lake, and just follow, just turn right or left on Altenadino Drive and describe through the city. Look at what has happened to that city. You know, El Tadino is a special place. La Haberide is a very special place at least to me. It's been my home for almost 30 years. I know a lot of people have lived here a long time and I would be absolutely devastated to something like that happened here. So as residents of the city, we owe it to each other to be very aggressive on these issues and take the recommendations of the Fire Marshal and his crew and work very diligently to get that done. I know Captain, you've been very willing to work with people and develop mitigation plans. So even if it's something that is net new to you this year that you never had to do in the past, understand why. And if it's something that's, you know, you just can't get done in 30 days, then work with the captain on developing a mitigation criteria that you're willing to work with. think of it like all of us have to pay taxes tomorrow. Some of us have to work on a payment plan with the IRS because we owe a little bit more than we thought. So anyway, any other public comment? Any other comments from Council? I really like the addition of clearing road debris that's blocking the side of the road. I mean one of the things we learned is we went through the random numbers where we could never ever evacuate the city safely. It only gets worse if the roads, people are allowing their upper hills above the roads to the road down onto our road and further block the road. So I think adding of the road debris is a really good addition. Now it's probably going to be tough because a lot of people don't even retain those yet, but maybe we can start to change some minds if we just make them clean them up even. You know, it's a good start on that. That's evacuation is going to be tough for us no matter what. But I'm glad we're starting on that very much. All right, so I'll go ahead and close the public hearing and do I have a motion on this? Move to authorize the fire department to initiate inspections and proceed with Rush clearance as necessary. Second. Second. Brian? Yes. Right? Yes. Carol? Yes. Norm? Yes. And John C.S. All right, that's the end of the public hearing. Move on to administrative items. Item 17. The Mayor of Council. This one is related to the new high. Fire severity's own maps. The state and the commercial did just come out with those maps. So every area they have completed all across California now have updated maps. Mars just came out at the end of the end of March there there. The Cluderia report is the new map. It has changed a little bit for law upper heights. We do also have some areas that fall into just the high in the moderate zone as well, which we didn't have before. But there is a little more information about this. There is, if you go on our city's website in the news tab, there's a little news story with you click to read more. that will take you to separate pages that has a little more information about it as well and then as Chief Jorgensen said earlier, through the process we do have to adopt the new fire zone maps. That public outreach and getting the map out there is the first step of it. This is one of those ways to get it out there. We'll be doing a little more outreach for it here and then bringing it back to the council to consider it a future date. That's all I have? Yeah, and pursuant to the law, we have to adopt at a minimum what Cal Fire put together. If we want to add areas to it, we can if there's evidence that supports such, but that is the limit of your authority. You must approve this at a minimum. You can add more if you want, if you think it's necessary. And it does require, for areas within certain zones, it does increase building requirements and standards that they must comply with. I understand, Chief. You're going to bring that to us next month, correct? That's correct. Your recommendations, on how we flook it. Yes. Some of the issues that have already come up with many other communities, for instance, Borea, and talking to their Fire Marshall as well as speaking with Fire Marshalls of other districts, is some of the kind of the mixture areas where it's like within the map, one parcel in particular may be under the very high fires of Verde Zone and fall under, say, local response area like LRA, because as it stands, with Cal Fierce mandate, only LRA or local response area, very high-fierce severity zone in the red is mandated to have that defensible space, whereas the LRA in the high or the moderate does not. If it's SRAR.A. or state response area land, the high and the very high require the defensible space but the moderate still does not. But the point is that regardless of what dirt it's in, if we have very high fire severity zone but only a portion of it, say like a quarter of it is in the red, but yet as an example, say it's moderate or higher moderate that does not require that type of defensible space, but only that sliver does. The recommendation from every city that I've spoken with, from Newport Beach to, you know, a, Brea and all of the other, all of the other cities that I've spoken with recently, we are all in agreement that if just a portion requires very high fire severity zone then the entire thing should also be healthy that standard. I'll piggyback on that one a little bit. When we adopt the building code standards we do take an extra step to that process and make additional findings to designate the entire city's high severity fire zone. So those building standards are a place across the city currently. So even though like old maps, new maps are, when we adopt the building code cycles, we do take that extra step to deem the entire city as very high-speed fire zone and require everybody to meet those building code requirements for high speed fire zone as because when you look at the map,'s not a lot of difference between like Reposato and Dorthea or Skyline and Dorthea and all those areas. So we do take that extra step and we'll probably continue as we move forward to make it similar across the board that way there's no confusion as to where it is in high-spirited fire zone and what is not as far as like building code and brush clearance requirements standards So so we're pretty confident then that our building codes represent the cal fire recommendations Currently our current building code requirements that we have in place today Designates the entire city is high-spirited fire zone So as far as like insurance requirements when people are going to do insurance these maps will affect your insurance rates but as far as insurance requirements when people are going to do insurance, these maps will affect your insurance rates. But as far as building requirements, we do designate the entire city of high-smarty fire zone. Within those requirements in the building code, there are some exemptions for properties built before 2007 that allow for some exemptions to some of those requirements that are still in there. We're talking to the building official right now about looking at those requirements and those exemptions because we will be adopting new building co standards here at the end of the year. Yeah, I'd really want to make sure that as we go forward we're looking at cal fire recommendations. Also ensuring that we look at through a very different lens when we give setback modifications, keeping that defensible space around homes is really critical and I think we probably need to look at giving our planning folks some guidance on what we might find acceptable there because I know we've given out exceptions in the past and having that this fence will space around homes is just going to become a very critical issue going forward. Okay, so I don't think we need a motion on this. I have a question. Just out of curiosity, what's the reason why the maps are changing over time? Is it because the criteria is changing or is the environment the actual direction of silver changing? From my understanding, it's because the criteria is changing. It's the, you know, whether you want, I mean, some of the, what I've been told, and some of the things that I'm learning, it, you know, environmental factors are taking to do account depending on which side of the aisle that you sit on. At the end of the day, it really just comes down to the criteria changing. Thank you. I was curious about that. Thank you very much. I don't think we need a motion. No, it's just come in. I know a lot of residents have had trouble with obtaining fire insurance and Hopefully this will help because it's some of the city has gotten out of that high fire hazard area So if you heard anything for any residents or anything about insurance and those same things No, not anything related to that yet, But this is all on the website so we can hopefully this all at least help a lot of the residents with the, so they don't have to go into the state pool. It depends. We'll see where the insurance industry goes with that. So I am told, I don't know if it's true, that insurance companies have their own algorithms, formulas, things, magic dust, which they look at. They don't actually look at this. And they look more at risk models. This isn't purely a risk model. But yeah, if you're not in it, I assume that helps. Right? So. Production. I would hope the reduction helps residents with their insurance. Right. Any other comments from the council? Okay, so I think May is when we will be presented with the different additional information and I understand that you correctly will need to adopt the actual fire map itself. That's what I understand as well. We don't have to adopt the ordinance until just under 120 days. All right. Measure A. So the county voters have recently approved ballot measure A, which is local solutions fund related to homeless issues and funding in ways to deal with that. Through this new tax measure, it's sort of replaces what was measure H and puts in a different category of looking at how the funding is collected and how the funding is used with a larger emphasis on that money actually going out and being used to benefit to almost part of it. As part of it, there is a breakdown to where all the cities in the county and the county areas do receive a portion of the funds. So for us, it's roughly $35,000 a year is what we were receiving in funding. We've been going through this one. It came out relatively quickly. And as we are looking at the funding sources and how the county is going to allocate the funds because the county is the one that is collecting and then allocating those funds. At the moment, the way the county is allocating the funds at least for this year is that there are 17 cities that have direct agreements with the county. They will receive their portions of the funds. All of the other areas will go into the local cogs that oversee those areas. So for us, that would be that our funding would technically go to the cog, which would be the gateway cities cog, which is in the area that we reside within that cogs sphere of influence. And then from there, that cog would be looking at how to spend that money within the region of that Cog area and be submitting Work orders and plans and reports back to the county related to how that funding has spent We've been looking at ways because we are not members of the Gateway City's Cog So we have been looking at if there's a way for us to receive those funds from the county and we're passed through the Cog. I don't have a final answer on that right now. I have been working a little bit closer with the City of Whittier. I'm in there in terms of City Manager on they are doing a similar thing trying to be able to utilize as Mr. Blaggan talked about earlier. They do have a homeless shelter and wraparound services that they provide in the City of Whittier and they self fund for a few million dollars a year into that aspect of it. So they are also trying to find a way to receive those fundings sources themselves so they can utilize it for their shelter. We will see as they are trying to meet with the county right now as well to try to figure out that aspect of it. But my recommendation at the moment would be our funding is going to the cog. So we'll get incorporated to how the cog spends that money. If we are able to obtain those funds that would get disperse, I think a good way for the council and the city to spend that funds would be to join the city of Whittier and their homeless shelter and use those funds to supplement and work towards the good work that you do over there through their shelter, which is local to our area and would benefit us in any future needs. So is there is there limitations on how the fund can be used? is another, you know, my question I I guess is we don't really have an outreach program in the city or outreach program as Hector or Deputy. So can the funds be used to supplement that cost? It's very specific. I don't believe we can utilize it through the Sheriff Sheriff's Department further outreach us to the way it's they could be done And is in your conversations with Whittier and the assistant city man or the interim city manager? Are they willing? Do they seem like a willing partner here to if? If we were to get control of the funds What would that bias with them would that bias a bed would it bias two beds? What is it? What does it get us? We haven't talked about how much it would might bias in the shelter, but do you seem to be willing to partner with us on that aspect of it? Any other questions? It's a little off point, but why in heaven's name or we in the gateway cities cog? Did you can you explain that that makes no sense to me at all? It's just The way the the cogs are laid out we're sort of on the side of the hill So we we are in that this is the side of a hill so we get to be Bunched up with Lakewood Long Beach and all of those folks who have totally different rules than we do. Yeah, I mean, the city was a member of the Gateway Cities Cog, a number of years back, but I think at the time we sort of pulled out of it because they were very heavily focused on transportation, like multi-modal transportation related issues, which didn't impact us very So at that time, I think is when the city sort of stepped out of the cog. We probably as a city are more aligned with what like the San Gabriel Valley council of governments is kind of works on and is like a jurisdictionally like just their area maps how the cogs are broken out were in the gateway cities. Yeah, thanks. Do we know who assigns the cogs? I do not know who assigns the areas to the cogs. We might look into them. I know we voted not to spend $10,000. I don't know if you are on the count. That's the fee to join. Any other discussion? All right Item 19 the housing element. Thank you, Mayor. So this is the annual report for the housing elements of this Attached to your report. You'll see a very large spreadsheet there So as part of that spreadsheet it sort of we have done, housing wise, coming in and out the door, and all of those things over the past year. So some of the sheets in this form are utilized. We do not utilize, but it just kind of it tellies up what we have out there, what comes in the door, what goes. So right now, like table A is Table A is all of the stuff that has been submitted that is in currently the planning process for either new housing or ADUs. Those ones are assigned to an income category. Typically, our ADUs that we see come in the door are related to either for family members or elderly parents So we've placed those into the like very low income non-dead restricted category for those new housing that are being built or Being built by private people for their own residents So those typically fall within the the above Moderate category for the housing that stock that is built for us. Table B is units that are permitted by affordability. It kind of shows you over the years. So this is a form that we get from HCD. So it isn't editable. So it doesn't include any data points from 2021 or 2022. But you can kind of see in 2023, 2024. Those are the housing units that were permitted in those time frames. Table 2A is a larger one that shows things that are in the planning process. Also what is in the building plan check process, what has building permits for it, and what has received a certificate of occupancy for that one. Table C is for sites selected for rezoning to accommodate shortfalls and housing. We did not select any sites to rezoning in 2024. Table D is some of the programs. This one is always hard. We do not have a certified housing element. So these are some of the programs that we have worked on in our past housing elements that get incorporated in just a little bit of information related to it. Table E are commercial developments that are receiving development bonuses. We don't have any commercial property. Table G is locally on Lyons for housing element side inventory that have inventory that have been sold least or otherwise disposed of. We did not lease or sell or dispose of any properties for housing in 2024. Table J, same thing, these are student housing. We did not have any student housing in the Heights. And the last one is just sort of a summary of the years's events. So if next year's annual report will probably look much different than it is today. Because in 2025 we're going to be completing some rezoning. We are going to have a lot of housing programs. So the program that we, and the report we sit to submit next year will be vastly different than it is today So this is one of the planning commission at their last meeting and it's recommended that the City Council discuss the 2024 housing element and a program report accept the report and direct staff to submit it to the state If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them for you. Any questions? I take it we need a motion for this submission. Okay. Move that we accept the 2024 housing element annual progress report and direct staff to file the report with the California Department of Housing and Community Development. Second. Second. Brian. Yes. Greg. Yes. Carol. Yes. Make a note that he stepped out. And John C.S. All right. Item 20. Thank you, Mayor and Councilmembers. Item 20 before you is the Zone 4, Hossie and the Skyline Drove Project. of completion so. So back in August of 2024, the City Council awarded contract on expaving for the 2022-23 Street Improvement Project. And construction commenced on the beginning of October and was completed at the end of March. And there were a total of two change orders as part of that. One was pavement striping modifications. In the process of laying out the striping, there was a need to make some striping changes, which you can see out mostly along Hossie and a road between Skyline and Connell Assambrae. For the driveways? For the driveways. Yes. The area is going to match the striping that we will be doing as part of the Avocado Crest Signal project. So that was a bit of a change there, because as we were laying out the loops to be cut at Skyline and West Road, we noticed that those lanes are going to be shifting in where the loops would be cut for the old striping and the new striping wouldn't be in the same location. So instead of having to cut two sets of street detection loops, we elected to make those changing striping changes ahead of schedule. So we restriped that area to the new plan versus what was out there existing to make sure that the loop detectors for the signals were cut in the appropriate location so we wouldn't have to go make another cut of those loop detectors and move them around as part of it. And then the last one is bid adjustment items that we do as the quantities versus actual, what's put down on the street versus what is bid, just the mashup of what was over and under on those projects and for those ones. So, original project was awarded at $1,369,000. The total bid item adjustments were $30,136.21, which would bring the project project within the limits of the contingency for the project. So the recommendation is for the City Council to approve change orders 1 and 2 and the amount of $30,136.21. Except the 22-23 street improvement project has complete and direct the city clerk to file the notice of completion with the LA County of Recorder. If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them for you. So I know that Steven sent some pictures in of concerns. Are we going to address those before we move forward? Because it looked like there was work that either was done incorrectly or needed to get changed, especially like with the berms and the construction of the berms. We did receive a credit for the berms. So the berms that went in were not the berms that were spec'd. So the striping changes, that's change order one, was a much larger amount through that we negotiated the credit back to reduce the cost of the striping. For that one is change order one. For that, the work that wasn't done per plan. Any other questions? I just have a question. Have you been able to thoroughly review his email to make sure that this is complied with what we're approving tonight? Or do we need to go back and review this whole thing? No, we've been through it. We've looked at it. Roads committee as well have reviewed all of these issues that he had brought up. They've all been reviewed by the Roads committee. In city engineers as well. And we've gotten credit for some of that. Yes. So you're satisfied. Bringing this whole thing together tonight. I am. Yes. Okay. Well, it falls to us then to probably agenda is a discussion about why are our inspectors miss noncompliance with the existing plans and that's I I mean, if we put the, if we put the dollar right on the side for the moment for putting in the wrong berms, then we pay these people money to inspect according to plans. If Siemens write and they have not done so, then they're going to have to answer for that in some fashion other than just, it's not going under the table, I can assure you. So let's agendaize a discussion. No, let's agendaize you to just give us a report on how do they respond to that? I'd like a response from them that tells us why they missed that. It just literally shouldn't have been missed. and agenda is it for the return in May? So your motion is to table this till May then. Well I think we should approve the change order. Oh okay. Yeah. I think it's more around the, and I think one of the road committee members came to me with the same concern about what are I mean we paying the inspector a lot of money to be out there and he should be out there she should be out there in real time when they're doing the sword and again again, the Rhodes Committee member was just, I mean, he's in this business. It was mystified as to how our inspector did not catch the fact that the wrong berm design was being used. I would have moved that. Hold on one second. I have just a question. Carol's got a question. Sorry. Okay. So the 5801, the striping, does that come out of the grant money we got for the signal? So the striping, there is striping in general for the project. The change we did was just for the striping in Halsanda, we are working a credit with the striping that is striping in general for the project, the change we did was just for the striping in hausienda We are working a credit with the striping contractor that is going to be doing the whole entire hausienda work right now because it is a separate project and a separate bottom money. I Don't think I understood your answer The striping that is in there does not get paid from the grant funds for the signal and the restriping on Hossi-Inda. But we're going to get... We are working with... We're striping... We are working with that contractor that will be doing the Hossi-Inda road restriping project on a credit for that portion of it that has already been done. So, if we get a credit since it's a grant, what will we get extra striping or something? Will he pay us money back? No. So, our cost of construction is probably going to be slightly more than our total grant funds for all of that work on Hossianda. And then the other items I don't think were part of the grant. No, okay. Thank you. All right, Greg. You're going to make a motion. So you're asking us to do three things. To approve the orders to accept the street improvement project as complete and to direct the city clerk to file an outskill completion without a county which ends the project My this isn't informed. This is just a form of discussion I don't know that we can say the projects complete until we've resolved the question of inspection. Maybe I don't have a problem generically with the change order, but I do. I don't like to end this project on a sour note. To me that's still a sour note. So is there any reason why we couldn't just to prove not that everyone wants to do it, to the change order, but not your other two requests until next month when we have some responses to why we missed this stuff? So I'll really make it a determination that a project is complete does is set a date for people to file Stopwork notices, right? So if the project is actually complete and it is The law is going to deem it complete anyway, but this gives us a date certain by which to limit material man and subcontractors for filing claims against the money. And the only way to effectuate that is by recording it with the county. So the last two items are really more self-preservation than any real use of the word complete. So the issues you're looking at in legal world have nothing to do with these two last items, just so you know. And it also sets a date for their retention. We hold a portion of the contractor's funds. And so that would, they have 45 days before we can pay that retention from the data they're recording of the, the, the, the notice of completion. I think your question more lies with the inspection side of it, which doesn't affect the notice of completion. Notice of completion is solely for the contractor. So unless you wanted us to go back and tell the contractor to replace all the berms. I guess what I'd like to do is resolve each of those issues even if we approve and complete the project so we start the material and lean timing. Even if we do that, I still don't want to give up this project as done as my vine. It doesn't, I'm not done until we find out why the berms were done correctly and why they weren't respected correctly. And if we're doing a credit for someone from somebody, I want us to pursue that. So I'm happy to move the recommendation forward, but I want to keep the issue alive for our further evaluation. And I'm just afraid that if we close this off, it disappears, that's all. I think we can agenda his item on our inspectors performance. Our inspectors performance. So maybe it's a performance review of our road's inspector. And we can just agendaize that and we can just do an overall agenda item on that topic. I know, like I said, I know there's some concerns from the Rhodes Committee itself about the performance of this company and the work they've been doing and the cost they've been charging. So I think in the past, like three projects ago, the inspector supervision was a separate contract from the construction. Is there any reason they have to, they can't be said. I know it in that one, I think we sent it back because there was real question about why the inspector, oh I remember what happened was the cost of materials went up 20% and then the inspector just raised his fee 20% because he was getting a certain percentage of And I know in that case we separated them as I recall That one we went back to fine-tune the amount of time and hours that we're in that proposal for inspection and construction management services We have in the past separated the Inspection and construction management services to separate companies That was done in the past Just from my perspective, the inspection side of this is completely different than the legal term of notice of completion. But whatever you guys want to do. I'm satisfied I could move the recommendation for acceptance. Okay, yeah, let's go ahead and approve the completion and like I said, we'll agenda is a separate because I think there is, I think there's a, we heard one person today talk about in public comment. I know I've heard other comments so I think it would be something that at least some of members of our Roads Committee would like to come in and discuss with us. So, all right. Did you make a motion? Yes. Okay. I'll second that then. All right. Brian. Yes. Greg. Yes. Carol. Yes. Norm. Yes. John. Yes. All right. Item 21. Mayor and Council, this one before you is from the fire department. So it's the acceptance of a 2025 Firehouse Public Safety Foundation grant award. I think you skipped 21. Sorry. That was. Move ahead to fast. These are requests for opposition letters to a couple of pending state legislations. We did her from a resident earlier about SB 79 from Senator Weiner out there related to transit ordinate development, which would allow transit agencies to develop properties outside of the control or oversight of the jurisdictions that they lay within. So the League of California cities does monitor those bills as they move through the legislature and periodically ask cities to either send letters of opposition or letters of support. They have recently reached out with two, one related to housing and one related to homeless. Yeah, civil penalties related to homelessness. So there are two draft letters attached to the staff report. one that is in opposition to SB 79, which is the transit-related development. And the other one is SB 36634, related to homelessness and doing it. Having ordinances and or requirements for civil penalties related to homelessness. So there are two draft letters there. It's just for the council to consider. If you want to authorize the mayor to sign and staff to transmit those letters of opposition to the state. Any discussion, any concerns with us signing these? They seem very consistent with what we've heard in public comment with that this meeting, but also during the workshop on the housing element. Any concerns Okay Item 22 Good to the good one So the fire department did apply for a 2025 firehouse subs public safety foundation Grant in was awarded the grant. So the had applied for 10 cents of PPE, turnouts for fire department and we're awarded that. So it's a great thing for the fire department to be able to receive those funds. We do always have an influx of firefighters that are coming in and those turnouts and PPE are quite expensive and they do age age out over time so it's something that the fire department does look at quite a bit to be able to try to get grants where possible for that PBE. It's very important for the firefighters that are out there doing their jobs. So the item before you is to accept the grant. So adopt resolution 2025, dash 11, accepting the grant funds in the amount of $38,598.56. Awarded by Firehouse Sub's Public Safety Foundation and designate the Deputy Fire Chief to Act as the city's representative. To execute those agreements and work with them to receive the PPE. Chief, do you have anything else you wanted to add to that one? As you know, this small department realized very heavily on grants. So we're very fortunate to get this firehouse. They normally don't go above the 25,000 threshold, but they made an exception with us and those they realized that at this time we have probably about 20 sets of PPEs that turn out coats and pants that are going to go out of use. They only have a 10 year use on them, so we have a whole bunch of that are expiring this year 2025 so this will go a long way to help replace that but we still have to reach out continuously reach out and do more. Did you put this together Ed? uh, most of the verbiage passed on. We probably worked on this about a month. So I had a lot of help from one of our young, uh, far-frighted paramedics that we just recently promoted to lieutenant that's very good at grant writing so Well, thank you very much for all this and make sure you thank that person that would put the whole thing together and thank anybody that was involved in this because it's absolutely this is a thing that really helps the fire department in the city out so thank you All right, do I have a motion? I'd like to add add my Admiration for the initiative anyway. Oh, who is the Firehouse Sub's Public Safety Foundation? Do you know? So they are a group, it's a franchise that was formed from New York City. From the Firehouse Sub's, they are like Jersey mics. They have sub shops throughout the country. And their sole purpose is to use a lot of the proceeds that they've garnered every day to go towards helping different fire stations across the country. So shouldn't we write them a thank you letter or absolutely send them some avocados or something? That's already in the works. I was going to suggest that you know maybe a picture when we get the turnouts. Well your kids. Absolutely. You're probably looking at doing something along the lines right when we get the new rig, we'll also invite them to be part of that celebration. Well, I would actually do something a little different. It's find the oldest, fadest, oldest looking rig and have them take a picture in front of that. So it doesn't look like we're this big flashy department and that we actually could use additional money. Oh, yeah. So take one of the bread loads. So take one of the faded brush rigs and have them stand in front of that. I see where you're going with this, but the plan was to do this of fire service taste. So we won't have the new rig. Okay. The new rig is going to be a different presentation. So pass on my thanks to the young man that wrote the grant and you know it's $35,000 that's nothing to- 38 we found 3,000 more. Oh okay all right. the way to our resolution 2025 11. Second. Brian. Yes. Greg. Yes. Hero. move the way to our resolution 2025 11. Second. Brian. Yes. Greg. Yes. Carol. Norm. Yes. John Ches. Thank you. Chief. 23. 23 is guardrail replacement and other repairs. Over the last several months there has been some traffic accidents that has resulted in some damage to sections of guard rail along Hossienda and East Road as part of that. So we go through the process to file insurance claims for those but we do need to make repairs to it. So we have went out and solicited bids from contractors to be able to make those repairs. The segments of Garrel, the needs to be repaired on Hossie Ender Road in North of Canada, Sanbury, South of Canada, Sanbury, right at 1662 Hossie Ender Road, which is between East and West, and my section at 1045 East Road, which is like that hard 90 degree corner, It sort of between Vi in Papaya over by the golf course. There were some accidents in there. Those sections that caused some damage, Grace did reach out to several contractors. We did receive bids back from two of the contractors, Crown Fence and Surface Constructors submitted their bids for those particular projects and the final amounts for those are like $66,000 and $7.50 from one and $60,565 from the other contractor. So the cost to replace those guard rails would put it within the requirements of City Council to make the approvals of it. So staff is recommending that we award a contract for the construction of those and in a contingency amount. So staff's recommendation is to authorize the finance manager to amend FY2024-25. a budget and account 101, 450, PWD, 6650, by $60,565 to repair and replace car rails in those three locations on Hossie and the road. An East Road authorize a contingency in the amount of $9,084.75, or 15% and authorize the finance manager to amend the FY 2024 25 budget increase account number 101 450 PWD 6650 by 9,000 and 84 dollars and 75% 75 cents for the contingency and authorize the city manager to approve purchase order per the city's purchasing policy and and authorize staff to schedule surface contractors ink to complete the work on the damage sections of guard rail. If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer. The rafferty I noticed in the material you said only one was a hit and run. Only one was hit and run. The other ones that were chair of reports taken in. We have insurance information to follow the claims to receive the Procure costs. Are we going to recoup this money through those claims for the most part? For the most part, yes Okay, and how successful are we at doing that? What do you say Grace? She does most of it Sometimes it just depends on the insurance company and the limits and. So we don't we don't file an immediate claim when we get the sheriff's report like a traffic accident we don't tell them that hey look you're you're you're insured hit and damage city property. Is there a way we can do it more quickly and recoup the money so we have it in the bank and then when we get ready to do the repairs we can do them or do they require you actually submit? Those said they require us to submit the cost for the construction which a lot of times for us means we have to bid it and and then generally will require guard rails expensive, so it requires City Council approval before we can. That's why I was wondering if there's a way we can come up with the mechanism to do it a little bit quicker because I know some of those access are fairly old. This is pretty simple, so somebody runs into our guard rail and destroys them and insurance shows up in the sheriff's report. We immediately file a claim against that individual and we prosecute the claim. I mean it's like, you know, if they're uninsured or if it's a hit and run and we don't know who did it, that's one thing. But we shouldn't be funding funds. There's an insurance company that is more than obligated to underwrite the cost of this physical damage. So I guess the answer is we should have a process that actually works. I mean, we have a public works director that's fairly knowledgeable in guardrail replacement. Maybe we just need to have our own rate sheet. And we just say that if you damage damage 100 feet of guardrail our public work assessment for that replacement is $50,000. Pay us $50,000 and that's our claim. They want to take us to court fine but my guess is they're not. You know you can't argue your person damaged the guardrail the law of rights director of public work estimated that it costs $50,000 to replace. It's $50,000. Well, yeah, typically when in practice, when you, you know, somebody takes out a center median or something, the county of the state, whoever controls that, they send you a bill, period. You know, this isn't about who the, what do they get to do it? They do their own bill based on a Pro-Rata square footage Cost it's as simple I we can do that and that's that should that substantiates the claim right away If they want to fight about it, they will they'll try to negotiate it, but at least we'll get it going Not any concerns with Making these changes or anything you're hearing that concerns you? I know in the past we've had one incidents on East Road the first time it got hit a few years ago. I'd have to check the file to see if it was fully paid because sometimes we do receive the checks and I'm not aware of it. The problem that I've got is we're only paying a part of the cost of the city. So when we look at this, we should be building these insurance companies for the all in common. I mean, grace your time's not free to go out there and look at it and estimate it. And the public works, the person has to go out there and if it's in the road and cleaning up the mess, that's not. So I mean, we should come up with a mechanism that keeps the city whole and someone runs into our guardrail and it should include graces time, it should include our public works employees time to go out there and do it, it should include our time to put together the package that we have to send out to get the, I mean, all of that, trust me, coming from a company that I've seen the bill, it's shocking what's in there. So I would really suggest that we look at, not as a source of revenue, but keeping our taxpayers and our citizens whole and someone hits our garden. So I can give you some examples, rafferty, of how someone that has a lot of equipment that gets hit all the time, how they build. And I would think the insurance companies are very used to seeing it. And it might be a way to keep us a little bit more whole when people hit a road sign. We. I mean we should, we should immediately just say okay here's the flat rate for replacing a road sign just have that documented say here you go. Here's the rate for replacing that. All right, what do you need to pull this back in here? So you're looking for approval on these repairs. I thought we had a grant for Guard Rail work. How does this fit into that grant? We do have a grant. So as you're we're talking a little bit about trying to figure out a cost analysis of how much it is for a section of Guard Rail, it's going to cost X to do it on a, we have an idea of what it is, and is one part of that proposal that we have going right now. So, when we replace this, I see it's repair and replace, are we bringing it up to the new, and others of new guard rail standard, are we bringing it up to new, or are we just replacing what like for like? We have to upgrade it to the current, current cal transfer, so anytime they damage it does have to get out. If it's substandard, it has to be brought up to current standards. So if we do these repairs, then we're going to bring that section up to current standards, hopefully using the money that we get that we recoup from insurance. And what I would say is we should very quickly come up with a billing mechanism and just bill it even if we haven't done the repair. And then that will allow us to replace additional guard rail in the city because I know the grant wasn't enough to do a lot. It was just a very minimal amount, right? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Any other discussion? Do I have a motion? I'll move approval that we approve with the recommendations as written out in the staff report. Second. Brian? Yes. Greg? Yes. Norm? Yes. Harold? Yes. John's yes yes Thank you for your patience 24 the heli hydrant easement yes, we Have installed a heli hydrant on a portion of property owned by the habitat authority Earlier this year council went through process to Approve a vacation of La Haber Road, which runs from Fullerton Road to our northern city limits as part of it. So it was part of that process. It's completing a couple easement aspects of it. City Attorney has been working diligently on getting that part of it completed. He has a little update for council. Back in 21, the city and the habitat authority entered into an agreement pertaining to the construction of the Halley Hyde Mint. He's been related there too and the vacation of La Habra Road. Vacation just meaning the city giving up public access rights but still retaining the right for emergency services vehicles to use the road to fight fires, public safety and the like. There have been a couple discussion points about clarity as to those finalization of those documents. A couple of weeks ago I received correspondence from the Habitat's attorney with some changes that deemed acceptable. It's been on me to finish those documents. I haven't had a chance to but I plan to Then the next week because I know there's been discussions with habitat authority and we both want to get this done Quickly so it is finalized so that's the status if the council has any specific questions we can talk about it but the goal is to get this done and for you to give me authority to finalize all this. Once we do get finalization of the documents then we will be recording the vacation resolution which is the giving up of the public access rights but we'll be retaining the emergency service vehicle access and the habitat authority has agreed to our fire chiefs recommendations of maintaining at least a 12 foot wide Cube path meaning both 12 feet wide and 12 feet tall so emergency vehicles can traverse on the roadway So that is my report as to status so so process wise you're gonna have this done Hopefully in a week and I sign If that's the council's direction, if they give the mayor the authority to sign the agreement for finalization, we can do that tonight. We made some commitments to the habitat to get this done fairly quickly, so any concerns with once Todd gets done executing that document? I just want to make sure that it's going to keep saying that the clearance is at the discretion of our fire chief. That language isn't changing, right? The clearance, he does have authority but the specific, the maintenance requirement is 12 by 12. Oh, that's on the vacation of the easement. Right. But in the overall agreement in what they agreed to clear it's that is correct that is the general language about it's that language is not changing as part of this at least I have not seen any change. Okay that is that is correct but just said. I would not allow, you should know me by now, I would not allow that to happen. But Todd, if you would just confirm it just one last time. Yes, that is correct. When I come to sign it, I'll want to just make sure that that's correct. Was there any discussion about the fire fee that they No, I mean I had rafferty look at the fire fee and it looks like they're paying with the increments that that fee is now pretty close to what residents are paying for a similar amount Okay, it I mean rafferty we did that look up right and I know you gave me some numbers on the back kind of back in the envelope But it looked like it was getting with the escalations getting pretty close to it our own It's just about what it would be if you base it off our Fire Tax calculation For all the the land that the habitat owns within Labyrinths their current fee that they paid in the, their in lieu fee is pretty much what their fee would be today. I know, I have a vacant acre and I pay. Remember I say. We use your example. I use that example and rafferty work the numbers for. All right. And it was within, I don't know, $1,000 or so? Right around that. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I felt I did follow through on that one Carol because I wanted to make sure that that they were paying their fair share and I I rapidly convinced me that they were close enough that I wasn't worth making an issue out of. I guess we're all in agreement that you signed the uh, Thursday or to sign these when it comes. I'm not I guess we're all in agreement that you sign the author or sign the easement when it comes. I guess I know it's one other question. So how are we going forward on? I've heard a lot of talk about we want them to clear 200 feet back from their boundary line or along certain roads. Is anything happening on that? I'm going to expect Chief Jorgensen to work very closely with the habitat and ensuring that if 200 feet is the right amount, then 200 feet should be clear. To be fair to the habitat, I don't know that 200 feet is always the right amount. Right, you're doing your risk. We should look at it and say, yeah, in this case, we want 200 feet. In some cases, we might want them to clear more because of the type the fuel dense I mean I'm not an expert but I know that you know if there's a lot of undergrowth that there's a lot of debris if there's a high fuel loading 200 feet might not be enough. Okay just as long as that's still open. I have heard I have heard their trying to think of what Ivan's title is because I don't want to mess it up. I think he's chair of their board, right? He's their board chair? He's their board chair, correct, yes. That he has personally told me that the habitat will work with our Fire Marshal to ensure that the habitat clears certain land appropriately. Yes, I've been fostering professional relationships with Andrea as well as Michelle, their ecologists, and I've actually reached out to Michelle a couple times and for her professional opinion regarding non-habitat properties. So it's I'm pretty confident that we will be able to continue this relationship and make sure that the public safety is really, you know, is really key in this situation. Also, regarding that, yes, I'm looking at ladder fuels, I'm looking at all types of fuels and I'm also talking to Andrea and Michelle over with the Habitat Authority. We've also discussed fuel mod and, you know, as part of our discussion. So yes, I'm talking to Andrea and Michelle over with the habitat authority we've also discussed, you know, fuel mod and, you know, as part of our discussion. So yes, I'm on it. Well, according to the agreement, you have a lot of discretion. But I am a supporter of the habitat. I just thank you. But we have a job to do to make sure we protect the residents of Laudr. So- Well, we also want to protect the habitat for burning down also. So it's a win-win if we get this done correctly. Okay. So I think we're clear that the mayor can sign the easement once Todd gets done baking the modifications. I would ask Todd, once you get done just if Chief Jorgensen can just take a quick look at it, make sure that it did. Of course. More great, everything. Thank you. We should, just because the recorders office will ask, we should get a motion. Okay. I'll make a motion to approve the upcoming easement agreement with the habitat and that the mayor sign it. Second. Okay. Brian. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. John's yes. All right. Last but not least, Norma's this your item? Yes. Item 25, the Hobber Heights Information Flyer. Okay, I just passed out another version of it showing the idea of being, have the, well let me introduce it, basically from time to time we have people moving to the lobby really don't need to understand what sort of community they're moving into. And I think specifically of the individuals who were upset about dog's barking, they felt that it should be any dog's barking in the area. Well, why did they move in the area which encourages animal ownership been in a neighborhood that has a lot of dogs. What I like to do is do something to give a heads up to prospective residents. So on the one hand, we can track people who want to live in a real, real environment, as residential rule as opposed to pretend rural. And on the other hand, if there are people who generally don't understand what they're moving into and would like to give them a heads up also that before they fight property and want to make improvements in this and add the other and suddenly they find out well I can't do this, I can't do that. So just as a draft for consideration and for perhaps giving your thought during the next month or two as to what an improvement should like make. What I did was I sat down and I went through our general plan and extracted most of the wording from our general plan, which describes what sort of community this is. And I will propose just a brief handout perhaps one site having our goals of a general plan, the other site having a description of some of the things that law rights is important. And it starts out by first couple lines of a general plan starts out, you know, this is the general plan starts out, you know, Haber Heights is a unique community within the greater Southern California metropolitan area and then starts describing what makes this unique. So what I had in mind is perhaps working on this as a draft to make your suggestions and input over the next month or two and perhaps we could, and I like to have something that we could ask real estate agents to hand out to their customers. They wouldn't have to, of course, but at least promote. They could use it to promote sales on the one hand if we was worded properly. On the other hand, we want to basically give heads up to people who don't understand a real environment. Suddenly they move here and oh my goodness, there's horses in the street and no street lights and so forth. So I just want to perhaps avoid some of the controversies we have in time and time when people move up here and find out they it isn't the sort of area they want to live in. Anyway, that's my thoughts. Any discussion? Norm, thank you for pulling it together and introducing it as an agenda item. I'll take a look at it. That my cursory glances we want to include, again, what's been talked about several times today is the fact that, you know, LaHobber Heights is a, you know, high fire area and... Excellent idea, which I'm surprised I didn't think of that myself, but that's why it's just a first step. All right. Thank you. Any other discussion? Okay, that's all I have. So, let's see, into the administrative items. Any individual council member items they'd like to discuss. I just like to bring back Glenscheperd's testimony today. And I'm wondering generally to have a short discussion among us as to how we feel about this this initiative measure and whether we as a city council want to participate is a sponsor of that. From my perspective I read it before I saw it from Glenn and I'm individually going to support this. I'm kind of wondering whether we should do it as a city. So I just Just a general discussion about this on that. I was going to suggest maybe we agenda. I said, see if we wanna be one of the cities that have endorsed the initiative. Since it's not agenda, I say we won't have a discussion, but yeah, let's agenda, and see what may looks like. I mean, it sort of consists of the resolution we passed before, but we could expand on that resolution. Let's agendize it. Yeah, no, I agree that we need to agendize it. Any other? So, I promised John Mingus that I would bring up a couple of items since he had a little minor health issue he couldn't be here tonight. But number one, for those of you that aren't watching, that aren't members of Firewatch, he asked me to re-emphasize Firewatch. Rafferty, I'd like to get a meeting set up with the industry sheriff station. I know Hector had to leave, but I really want to make sure that we have law enforcement coverage this year. And I'd like to meet with the captain if possible because last year there's a term use called busted our car and assigned Hector to another city, which in my mind is completely unacceptable on our highest risk day of the year. So I want to make sure that Captain understands that in no uncertain terms has had to happen again this year we need our especially since the 4th of July I believe is on a Friday, which means probably in May we should agendaize. Start doing the 4th of July planning. I'm not sure, Chief Martin, if, I know last year when I talked with the chief, that he wasn't aware of kind of the role and what the Firewatch community did. This year, I know John would like to have more of a coordinated effort with bringing in Firewatch, making sure that we are very coordinated with the Sheriff's Department so that we avoid what happened to you last year happening again. So I, a rafferty, if we can make those couple of things happen. I know John is working very hard and he's very passionate about this and I told him that I would, I would bring it up today. Yeah, may is typically when we start looking at for the July and planning out. Yeah. The other thing I want to make sure of is the Sheriff's Department is supposed to assign contract city reserve hours. If you can just take a note as part of your discussion with industry station, I'd like to know how many reserve hours the city of Alhabrahites has received in the last two years. We should be asking, especially on dates like the fourth for them to assign reserve units to the city to work with our fire department and fire watch on. you know high-risk issues especially the illegal parking and people that are refusing our fire department's orders we should have a deputy up here that can respond to those events. Well I have anything else? All right public comments not on the agenda anybody have something they they want to discuss with those of you that's sticking out with us for a couple hours? Nope. All right, I'll turn the meeting. Thank you.