I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to and call the afternoon session of the City Council meeting to order. pursuant to VTCA government code chapter 551.071072. We're going to go into a closed session. We see a government code chapter 551.071072. We're going to go into a closed session. you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you Okay, we're going to go ahead and call the afternoon session back to order. We're going to move on down to the work session. I'm going to take a few things out of order here just a little bit. I remember it was probably the very first week of my first term as mayor when Trey and I called the then owners of Lincoln Square to say we got to do something with this property up here. And they ultimately agreed to do so and then all the bids went out to make sure we got some good owners that could come in and meet the vision of what we had as a city at Lincoln Square and I remember trademark Wasn't the wedding winning bid did at the time. I'll be candid. They weren't, but they were certainly the ones that I think saw our vision and our vision was pretty grandiose, given the situation of where we were at and where Lincoln Square was. So they came in on board and did everything they could to sort of deliver what we had asked them to deliver for us. Things have changed. We're not delivering everything. We're not getting everything that we were originally wanting, but I think we are still looking at a phenomenal project here. So Terry, I'm going invite you to come on up and give us a quick update on what's going on with stuff. Thank you, Mayor. Mayor Council, we appreciate the opportunity to be here and give you an update. As the Mayor said, we've been working together with the city manager and Lindsey Miley all the folks at the city to try to deliver the very best project we can at What is the old Lincoln Square now anthem? So we're gonna give you a little update Let's make sure I know how to do this. All right So as the mayor said we were brought in because we are a place making centric mixed use developer operator. We're 20 minutes from here. We have mutual friends and this is our home market and after meeting with the mayor and city manager and staff, they thought we would be a good partner to carry Lincoln Square forward and we're glad to be here. These are some of our Texas projects that you see on the screen. When we kick this off, we always, we have an adage at trademark as we're learners not knowers. A lot of developers come in and they will tell you all they know and they'll tell you what they're going to do for you. And we try to start by listening and we had a lot of community engagement. We talked to the council staff. We did a consumer engagement survey. We talked to lots of business owners. We met with the UTA president, all kinds of other institutions. Obviously talked to our tenants, talked to a lot of area brokers of retail and office and hotel and hotel developers. And we got a lot of information. We heard they wanted more green space. They wanted an updated look and experience. They wanted fun, activity, social events. They wanted better elevated stores and restaurants, obviously, in a family-friendly environment. They wanted a mix of uses. And that's still the plan. And all of that is what we do every day anyway. We really don't do anything that doesn't include that. It's just not what we do. And in those early meetings with city staff, a lot of you folks came to our work session, our design workshop. And we were told, as the mayor mentioned in his opening remarks, to dream big, push density, go for it. We want we want this to be special and we'll do everything we can to incentivize that. So we work together along those lines. And we came up together that first few weeks with a vision. And it hasn't changed at all. It's to transform the Old Lincoln Square shopping center into a vibrant open air mixed use gathering place for the community and a modern gateway to North Arlington. It was, and no uncertain terms told us how important this site is, it's kind of the front door to the Arlington Entertainment District. And our goal is to make Anthem, our new name for Lincoln Square, a high quality walkable, a miniatized, high design retail and mixed use project. And that's still the plan, even though the plans have changed a little. So this is a side-by-side of the plan that we were originally the original plan that we worked on with the city that was shooting big as far as a density. You'll see on the left and on the right right is the new plan. What's changed, and you'll see the diagram is very, very similar. The walkable town center piece is very, very similar, as you'll see on the right side of the main interest that dead ends in the studio movie grill. The difference is the apartments on the plan left, which is the original plan, the approved development plan. There was multi-family in that sort of top left corner, which is from I-30 to studio movie grill. And that was the big difference in the plans. And today we have a two story retailer that's very serious. We're trading L.O.I.s with a two-story retailer to go in that spot. Both plans had a big structured parking garage in that location and it parks the walkable town center with the public green that's still in the plan that is very similar to what was there. Really hadn't changed hardly at all there. You'll see the other difference is we are keeping one of the Lincoln Square buildings. It's this gray one, let's see if this clicker works. No, I could just walk over there. This right here, we're gonna keep that building because one of the unique things about Lincoln Square buying it at this point A bunch of the tenants have long-term leases and they have control areas Was that mean here's a parking lot because you have a lease with me I you can't build anything in that parking lot or you can only modify this building so much or you have to come get my approval So there are people that have control certain parts of this. And if we want to do something in an area they have control over, we have to write them a check. We end up negotiating something with them. So that limits what we can do without a large investment. So we're keeping that building there. It will look completely different. It'll have all new facades. You'll never know it was part of the Old Lincoln Square, but we're keeping that there because it would cost a lot of money to move one existing tenant. And we've in concert and conversation with the city, we've all decided that was the best thing to do was to leave that one small building. Everything else that exists at Lincoln Square on the east side of the existing power center, all up and down Collins from six flags to 30, every other bit of retail will be demolished. So you will not recognize this place. Yeah, after we got the project zone, construction costs continued to change, the capital markets and interest rates obviously continued to change and the multifamily rental market was were all monitored and at this point the multifamily grants are about 50 cents lower than would be required to be able to make the numbers work to build that original plan and then working with the city and looking at all the levers they can pull from an economic development standpoint we just can't get there there together. There's two big a gap. And we've had, by monthly meetings with the city to discuss the market, potential, all the different ways to get a project like this finance. And we've been working together on evolving the plan and keeping it as good as possible. And so the financial gap for the original plan is just too big. So we said, well, what is the best we can do? And let's see if that's good enough. And we're able to come up with this plan. And fortunately, we have this anchor at the table, which is a really high quality tenant. And we have Studio Movie Grill that wants to stay. And we have, based on this plan today, I can report to you, we have a ton of really elevated tenant interest. We've got a lot of better restaurants and a lot of retailers. And so we've really, there was an ICSC, a shopping center convention in Fort Worth a few weeks ago. And they have based on this plan and these retailers, they've got a ton of interest. So I have good news to report. There was also on the original plan was a hotel. That's what's shown on the corner. Left plan to the right of the multifamily. That little sort of irregular building was a hotel. We also went to the market and talked to every hotel person. We know, every brand we know. There was interest in an upscale category hotel, but there's not an interest in an upper upscale or luxury category as defined and allowed by zoning. So as of right now, we can't get upper upscale or luxury hotels interested, so it's unlikely that in the first phase, they will have a hotel. We, we, the zoning we're asking for will allow multi-family and allow hotel, but it's, you know, when the market is there. Also, we've, over the last year, we worked with a couple of promising specialty grocers and we had, we had, had them interested one and particularly very interested, but at the very end, they ultimately decided to pass based on their market analysis. So it's important to state that our current plan and the proposed zoning, and again, this is our plan today, it's what we wanna do unless something changes. The framework of the plan, the level of detail, the quality of the buildings, the quality of the public spaces, ingress and egress, signage, quality design, remains unchanged. It's mainly that there's not a hotel there and there's not going to be above what was a garage there. There's not going to be multi multifamily. Those are the two differences. So, let's see, I'm really covered that already. So, our opinion is executing this plan over here is still transformational. It is still something that, at your front door of the entertainment district, you'll be very proud of. The real difference is the multi-family in and over a garage as opposed to a garage that is behind retail and services a two-story retailer. That's the primary difference. And the hotel will not go on the corner right now. It may come later as the hotel market changes. It's important to note that the project is still much denser than the existing Lincoln Square today and that's something that both Council staff and PNZ have mentioned is important. We have this plan has 130,000 feet more retail than the current Lincoln Square. So it's a much, we are pushing density. How are we doing that? Because of that big garage that you see top left of the plan on the right, just below that. So do north of Studio Movie Grill. That's still a big, might as 800 spaces. How many? OK, 870 space garage. So that's how you densify is by. We didn't have any land, but we added 130,000 feet of net new retail density. And there's a 42,000-foot office retail building on the east side of the public space there. So those are the two places, the big two story building, and in that two story office retail building where we're at in density and via the structure garage. So these are the challenges that we've encountered. They've been hard, but we think working with the city very closely, we've landed on a plan that will allow this development to move forward. And it'll meet the original vision of transforming the old Lincoln Square into a vibrant walkable mix-use gathering place for the community in a gateway to North Arlington that you guys can be proud of. So this is an image that is the entrance off of Collins coming into Studio Movie Grill. And so with these elevated retailers and restaurants that I told you are interested with the great news sidewalks, with public spaces, a mix of uses, public art, artisan signage, we still think that this development will be what we talked originally with City and Staff about a real amenity for North Arlington and the entertainment district. Every parking, every piece of parking lot, every building, every facade will either be completely renovated or brand new. No one will recognize this as the Old Lincoln Square. It will be a walkable, high quality, highly detailed, mixed use place. Not a dumb down or just barely renovated strip center. Another, this is obviously kind of in a drone. You're looking north at the public space with the buildings on each side of it. And this really, this indicates the design level of detail and scale of the project that is still proposed. And we've kept the original design of the central public space that you guys saw back when we were going for zoning originally. And it's still going to be the heart and soul of the development. And it's, you know, that it'll make this place unlike any other retail place in North Arlington. And we've got a ton of great restaurant interests and people that want to be all around the green space. We think this will be, this is the corner of 30 and Collins. We think this will be a great front door and gateway to North Orleans and in the entertainment district, as I mentioned, that you guys can be proud of. And we plan to do a lot of activation in the public spaces. And you can see these are public spaces and details at some of our existing projects. And we'll have live music, art installations, and lots of different gatherings, and host the community in all kinds of ways. And landscape has been something that has been mentioned a lot. And we will be upgrading the perimeter landscaping to above EDO standards. This just gives you an idea. We've discussed with staff some some strip centers all the tenants look the same and they have a heavy hand and all the signage has to look the same all the storefronts look the same one in our projects is more like a real high quality street where each tenant has an opportunity to express themselves. but we control the design in a way that makes sure everything works together. And this is what we'll be doing at Anthem. I think if we move forward and zone this, it looks like we can keep moving, close later this year, and proceed with a development that will allow us to succeed together. Thanks for your time. Any questions or comments for Terry? Ms. Hunter. Thank you for your presentation. Thank you. I heard kind of what you said about upgrading the landscaping, and I am happy to hear that. You know, just I've been in Arlington since I was a kid, and you know, that that was Lincoln Square and, you know, I'm excited about this project, but I do love that I did that you are going to upgrade the landscaping because I know those dead strawberry and just different things that really need a little facelift over there. So thank you for that. We think that we're into place making. I'm speaking next week at a conference in Florida and I was just working on the talk and this. So Terry, what is place making? And it's not one easy thing to define. But part of it is, how does it feel when you're there? How do people feel when they're at home and they're subconscious is deciding where they're going to go spend their time? Or when they're there, has it make you feel? And landscape has a lot to do with it. You walk by and see beautiful flowers and layers of textures and green that have been well maintained. And it feels one way and you see dead plants and dirt showing and mulch that's not taken care of. It makes you feel another way. So landscape is super important to us. You guys, we were gonna exceed EDO standards, whether you told us to or not. Council member Boxer. Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. I have a lot of questions. I'll start with overall, it looks like we're only gonna go to two stories everywhere for every building. Yeah, as a writer. There There's no height variation really. Not above two story at this time. Our zoning allows us to bring in hotel, multi-family later when the market's there. But the part portion you see, happy to put the plan back up, which might be helpful. The portion you see, sort of from the gray building up, that's phase one. and as of right now, that you have a garage that's taller than two stories, but the big green building on our 30, and then the office building I mentioned on the east side, those are two stories. And so everything's pretty much the same height then. So what is the green building on the lower section, the green block? That's a big box. Well, as of right now, it'll be, we're talking a couple of what I call soft juniors, the junior anchors that aren't deep discount. They're the kind that you like. Okay. And then the little lighter green or yellow block above that, what is that? Just a retail building with a standalone and other two-story building. No that's a single. That's a single story. Okay and then the gray block just to the east of that. That's that existing building. That's your existing that you're gonna face. Totally. But that's gonna be one story as well. Okay and then the the along the liner building the building, along Collins, that's two stories, and it's an office building, right? It's office above retail. So, make sure you don't have that. So, retail's at the street level on both sides. Yes, ma'am. Both sides. Yeah, let me be clear. Okay. Retail, retail, office above retail. Office above retail. Okay. And then you showed some images of like rooftop access, retail office of over. Office of over. You said okay. And then you showed some images of like rooftop access, but that was on the interior buildings alone, not along the street. That so we do have we have a restaurant right now that's interested in a rooftop. So we but that's in that center section. Yes, ma'am. The green space you see would be between those two buildings right in the middle. OK. So I guess where I'm coming from is it seems like we're losing some of the vision that we originally had. Even though you know you can count density in different ways and I agree with that. But overall the feel of it is very horizontal to me. Not as horizontal as it is now, but it's still pretty horizontal. And I'm wondering what can we do about that? And then in particular, along I-30, my concern is, what is that building going to, how is that going to present itself on the I-30 side? Is it just going to be the back of a building? We're looking to me like we're moving in the direction of like a more highlands type of development to me. And that's fine. There was a great highlands very successful, but it's a little dated right now, that concept. So what are we doing to bring that concept up? And get to the more, the more what you originally showed us and what the design surets showed us, and that sort of thing. Yeah, and I guess in council, I can talk about economics, I'm not supposed to talk about that in P and Z, but our original plan is the plan that I think we all would love to have. And I think as we're 40 million dollars apart on the incentive that project because the multi-family rents in the market are so much lower than required to do that structure part on a podium above retail. That's a really expensive execution. But multi-family does not necessarily have to be podium. The two are not the same. We have so little land if we go do surface part multi-family or we do multi-family to the ground. We don't we don't have room. You don't have to do that either. You could do you could do it like you did the office building there with you have a retail in the bottom multifamily on top. Same with the hotel or any of the other buildings. In other words, I really don't I don't buy that the framing that, you know, multifamily equals podium. There are other options. There are other options. Yeah, so I can't ignore that. I don't want to nod and say I'm agreeing with you. So if you don't mind, and you all can tell me if we're going too long, I'm happy to. But I think it's important because it's easy to say you could do multifamily above here. You could do multifamily above here. So the market won't finance multifamily that's less than about 250 units. And if we're going to go do, so that, our original plan had, Mike has a 300, I mean, and this was that We had 355 units and now you have zero so there's no there's nothing in between now We've tried plan after plan here's the here's the problem look how little land we have if you're gonna say Let's not do structure park multi-family Where you gonna park it and all of a sudden? You don't have you don't have room to do the walkable town center. So we could do multifamily but we wouldn't have we wouldn't have the walkable town center because you just there's not room for multifamily even if it's even if it's structure part but it's not podium. The rent still don't justify that we still have a big gap. I totally agree with that and I'm not I'm not sad about losing the multifamily component, particularly on I-30, I didn't like that to begin with. But I think there are other options. And so does it? And tell me what they are. Because I think we've looked at the question. One of the options is to wait until the market is better to do some of these components and do some of them now, some of them later. And a phase of view. And that's what we're planning. I think that's a brilliance of this plan, it's because we're planning to execute a phase one that is from the gray building north. And then the zoning we're requesting we'll be able to do multi-family, like right now we have, this is one diagram, We're not planning to build that day one as of right now. So we could do multi-family on the south. We could do hotel and multi- Right, like right now we have a this is one diagram. We're not planning to build that day one as of right now Right so we could do multi-family on the south We could do hotel and multi-family on the south if there was enough room, but right now multi-family the rents are way far off from us being able to build multi-family and Build this retail place that we want to we just don't have enough land Okay, and then the other thing on the on the upscale, up for upscale luxury, none of that makes any difference. It has to be cool. So, that just up to be clear, up for upscale and luxury, that was P and Z. Right, exactly. But from my point of view, it doesn't matter as long as the building and the venue is cool. We agree with you because there are some plenty of upscale hotels in projects, in mixed-use walkable projects like this that are plenty cool. But as of right now the PNZ says a per-upscale or luxury, so we had to listen to the market and we have to make decisions. Okay, so maybe we can adjust that way of thinking. I mean, and we would welcome your help with that. Ultimately, the whole project, everything here, it has to be able to compete and not, it has to compete with the highlands and has to compete with Southside for it worth has to compete with all these other other places in your country and if we fail at that and this whole project is a is it going to be a boom doggo I mean right now it's not good but we could spend a lot of money and it still just be mediocre. You know you're right I think some developers could I'm I pretty partial. I want to show you where's that slide. So we don't have any boondoggles in our portfolio. Okay. And I think one of the reasons we were encouraged is one where I could use by senior city folks to get involved was because we don't do that. And what we're trying to do now is do the very best thing the market will give us. You mentioned what you could wait. You know, the market forces are such that we really can't wait because we've got we've got a lot of problems because this project, before we got involved, it's been being emptied out for redevelopment. You can't just let it sit like this for very long. I know I don't think that's what a lot of folks at the city don't want that. And I don't think we have that luxury. And we've got financial issues that wouldn't allow us just to keep waiting. We need to do something. But you can phase it. But that's the current plan as I mentioned to you. And you mentioned Highlands, I don't mind. I know the folks that own it and lease it. I don't mind tell you what we're going to do here is going to be higher quality. It's going to be better. And it's going to respond to today's market. And we have tremendous leasing interest. And I'm very confident that this project and you see what it's going to look like in the imagery, it'll be cool. I mean, that's all I can tell you. It'll be very cool. It'll be the very best thing the market is allowing to be built here. and it's only allowing to be built here because the city and staff folks are working with us to incentivize the project to make it as cool and as dense as possible. Okay. When I look at your images, I see different viewpoints of from the east side of that office building to the interior side of that office building. So, not that one, but there's other. But this would be this, this is the left, this is the south of the office building, office retail building. Right. And the other side looks a little different. Oh god. And I am that one. Oh yeah, but you see how the building changes. Yeah. See in the middle of it. But if you look at the drone the drone drone view of it, it's different again. Well, but see it's the way they've designed it on the north, the north half of the building looks different than the south half of the building. So it is not different. It's the same. The building has two different looks. It's not one, it's not meant to look like one building. Okay, but if you go to the drone view. It's ma'am. I'll go back there. Okay. Wait there. Yeah, you go to the drone view and you look to the left. That's the left. That's the that's with multifamily. The left building that's that's a retailer of multifamily. That's the old view then. Yes, correct. So that's not the current plan right here. No, this particular image. No, we hadn't designed the details, because we need to get disowning before we move into CDs and redesign the project. OK, well, so this gets to my real issue here is that we really don't know what we're going to get. I mean, we don't even know on the I-30 retail. I mean, we say we're going to do one thing right now, but what about six months later, we hear, oh, you know, the market really won't bear that. We can't get the financing for that. That's out. At what point do we say, you know, this is not really worth doing if we're pulling all these things out? That's my concern because we've changed a lot over the time. And I think that's a super legitimate concern. So the language we're working on controls the quality of what happens. We're asking for an area within which we can develop approved uses. We can't do, there's a bunch of retail uses, we don't intend to do, and that we've written out. We can't dumb down the uses to deep discounters or a bunch of folks that we've agreed with the city we won't do just because the market isn't there and the quality of what we do and the quality of the materials and landscape is all still protected in this. It just tenets come and go, that's the reality. They do. Yeah, and everything's going to change on this. Even ten years down the road, you might have to reface lift this whole thing. I mean. Absolutely. So you want us to be changing every seven, eight years. You want us to be in bed. Right, and I'm fine with that. and I find with having the leeway on the site plan. I know you could come up with a number of site plans that would work well. My concern now is that the overall character we're losing in its existence. Yes, tell me. It's coming down. It's a little lower, but the overall character to a pedestrian. I don't think it feels that different, because we have a garage above retail. So that retail ground plan will be about 20, 22 feet in a pedestrian average person in this country. I think females are 5'5 and males are 5'9". So then a garage well behind it. That's four. 90 feet. It's four levels. The garage? Is it, does it say four levels? It's more. Oh, it's four plus the top. That's right. So it's four. So you're going to have like 30, 40 feet. And then the two story office building over here has a very tall ground floor retail. So it'll be almost three stories that the three story office. Yeah. It'll be almost as tall as a three story office building. Because ground floor retail has to have high clearance. Absolutely. I'd love to hear that because my concern is that everything's going to be pushed down and downsize. Yeah. And there are some great projects around the country that aren't any more than two stories. But they have public spaces they have but they have a presence to them well this is gonna have a presence to it okay I mean if you look at our imagery this is not this is this is not the highlands this is certainly not a strip center what we're talking about doing this is this we are still committed to all of it's that that is not a strip center the parking is in the back. It is not the highlands that is all surfaced park. This is an evolution. This is a certifiable evolution. And together with the city, I believe honestly, we've posted as far as we can. So how much parking do you have in that parking garage? I think she said it was 870, 872 space. A lot. A lot. So six months from now, we're not going to be hearing that it's too expensive. We can't build the parking garage. We have to put more surface parking in. Well, I don't mean that's not our intent. I don't think so. OK. No, that's not our intent. I mean, I think where we are in the discussions, we either stay roughly as it is. If the market just doesn't respond, we just, you know, we might demo a few pieces of it, do a facade renovation and leave it a little more like it is. Or if we do any kind of redevelopment, it's going to have public space. I think it actually has to, right? In the zoning, if we do a redevelopment, we have to have a public space, which means you're not going to have a big parking field. So we're committed to that in the new zoning. And so you, if you want to, but you absolutely will build a garage, the parking garage. Well, if we get the tenant, if we get that big tenant that we were trading yellow eyes where we have to have the garage. Absolutely. Okay. We'll not be a surface part project and the zoning won't allow it. We have to build that big, we have to build a public space. Okay. You can't have the public space and have a, and not have a garage. It can't be a big parking field. I totally agree. We're committed to that. I would like to just get some guarantees that we're going to have that. Were you either going to have that or were going to just fix up what we have? I think that's where we are. Yeah. Isn't that right? Okay. So I think that's where we are. I think you got the character of my concern. Absolutely. Okay. I agree with everything you said pretty much. I wish it was five stars. I wish we had the multi-family. I wish it was five stars. I wish we had the multi-family. I wish we could have figured that out. I am positive that the city, staff, and us have looked at every possible option and it just is not going to work now. But that's why they want the zoning to allow multi-family or hotel when it is practical. And as of right now, it would probably be on the southern half in the next 10 or 20 years. Now, 30 years from now, you might demo some away from the north and put multi-family, but I'm, you know, 30 years from now, probably won't be super active. Me either. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Council Member Oden Wesley. Thank you for coming and bringing us this this update. I think the whole town is looking forward to this transformation and that brings me to my question which is the timeline. When the and the and the and the and drawings detail construction drawings. Can we do something in the meantime to generate some excitement like a big banner or a big billboard that says coming soon with some of these great pictures because I keep hearing from residents up there what's happening when is Yes, ma'am. When is it going to start? We promise you. As soon as it becomes a reality, we get that big tenant and we're gonna have, we'll have graphics all over the place. Well, the people are looking forward to it. Well, thanks. Thank you. We're going to be very happy. We're going to be very happy. Yeah. That could be pretty fun. It could be pretty fun. Any other questions? Yes. Just quick. We're about to take. Terri, thank you for sticking. Yeah, that could be pretty fun. It could be pretty fun. Any other questions? Yes, just quick. We're quick. Terry, thank you for sticking up with the project. I know it's hard. Yeah. Put all the pieces together. Oh, this business is easy. Oh, you know, and thank you for your commitment with the city and the commitment with the residents in our city. Thank you. You will feel the love back, okay? Thank you. You will feel the love back, okay? Probably to you when you open. And we have. Thank you. And maybe you want to explore some opportunities at Digital Billboard on the parking lot on Highway 30. There's a lot of space out there, you know. And I think that's one of the things that we don't have in the detail discussions today, but we've talked about we'll get there. We'll get there. Thank you very much. That's not be too quick with some digital billboard stuff yet right now. Let me go ahead. I just want to say to the council and on appreciation for Terry and his team, this is, we've been talking about this for a good long year now and a lot of iteration on the charets and kind of trying to make the math work. And I can't tell you how many spreadsheets the team has gone over with his so it's been completely open book, completely, what it happens if you do this, what happens if you do this, what happens do this and how does it how does that work and so so that has really been the challenge and what's been very illuminating in this for us has been truly the cost of redevelopment when you talk about what it takes to redevelop a property that's multi-tenant oriented that has people that are there it's a it's a changer, and I'm not talking a few thousand dollars here. I'm talking it's millions of dollars to affect just a handful of tenants that really start to make the pro forma not really work. And that's been a real challenge because we talk, and I'm guilty of it myself. We talk about, you need to redevelop it. And like it's so easy to go sprinkle some pixie dust on it and what this project has taught us is that it's not nearly that simple. It's very complex and I appreciate his team's effort in showing us that and showing us how it works kind of in the weeds where the sausage is being made because it's been a real learning experience for the whole team on our part, which is part of what we've are going to be able to transfer into other projects across the city as we talk about redevelopment opportunities. Also, I just want to remind the council that there's a couple of control points that you'll have as you relates to some of the things that you're interested in. So, one is the zoning that's getting ready to kind of get active, I guess, tomorrow with the PNZ and it will come back around hopefully your way sometime soon. So you'll be able to kind of add some detail to whatever that zoning ordinance says and some of those images. But the second piece is still the financial incentive piece that has to come, that answers questions like, are you gonna do a garage? And he will, if we pay for it, right? And we'll only pay for it if the other things are in tow. And that's where you'll actually be able to separately contract for certain things, as opposed to permit certain kinds of activities to occur. So there's two pieces still coming, the zoning and then the incentive agreement that will be forthcoming and I think when you look at both those bites of the apple, hopefully you can get comfortable with where you want to be relative to the quality and the mix and the density and those kinds of things. Any other questions or comments for Terry? Terry, I was pretty convinced four years ago, nearly now, that we picked the right group to come in here and do this development. My mind has changed and that now I'm really convinced we picked the right people. Thank you, ma'am. I think a lot of developers given the complexity of this redevelopment would have given up. And a lot of city staff to their credit may have given up working with a developer and trying to get things done. I think between you and your team and Trey and his team with everybody at the city, y'all made an almost impossible project possible and it's still going to be a very, very significant, beautiful development that leaves us an opportunity that in the event things change in the future, and the market changes a little bit, we can add the multifamily, we can add a hotel, we can do those type of things. I wish we had the ability just to say, we'll take a really nice boutique upscale, but we all know we don't have the ability to say that because we had to go through the whole ordinance change to get the stuff approved at Champions Park a couple of years ago. So thank you for sticking with the city and doing what you're doing. I think we're definitely making some lemonade out of this lemon up there and I appreciate you. Thank you and thanks to the city staff and council. We live 20 minutes away. This is important to us we want to do a great job for y'all thank you thank you sir okay we're gonna go back up to 3.1 mr. Whiteway talk of water good afternoon mayor and council Alex Whiteway director of water utilities I'm going to give you the water utilities end-of-. Before we kind of get into 2024, we're going to hit 2025 real quick and just kind of quick give you what we're going into 2025 with. So our overall budget is 207 million. Personnel costs roughly 22 million operating costs 155. The capital outlay, that's the 1.4 million. That's what we put aside for all our capital expenditures all of our equipment replaced in spatco so on and so forth and then we have interfund transfers roughly around 28 million we have 10,323 fire hydrants that were responsible for so we actually have 12,012 hydrants in the entire city but 1,689 of them are private hydrants. So that's up to the property owner to maintain those. Now we have a partnership with the fire department. The fire department does a great job going out and they flow every single hydrant in the entire city once a year. And then they give us back reports if it needs to be oiled, repaired, so on and so forth, and then water utilities will go out there and make that repair. It's an important part, you know. It's, we need that partnership, and I will tell you the partnership with the Fire Department has been phenomenal. They have been great, you know, to work with with us, and it really is a collaborative team. If you look at the water valves, We have 23,988 water valves. It's a large number of valves to maintain. We have to do preventative maintenance on those valves is what we call valve exercise. So we wanna be able to operate, basically, we turn it on, turn it all the way off. The reason why it's so important to have a proactive maintenance program is let's say we have a main break down a street. Well, if those valves do not close completely, instead of just putting out that street out of service, we have a main break down a street. Well, if those valves do not close completely, instead of just putting out that street out of service, we have to expand that area and we end up putting multiple streets out of service. So that's where it's extremely important for us to keep that program going because we want to give the best service we can to the residents of Arlington and that's where that proactive valve exercise program is extremely important. You can see the miles of pipeline. It's 1,260 miles of sewer main and 1,469 miles of water main that we have to maintain. The water mains we can drive all the way to Florida and that's kind of like give you a full depiction of how much of the water mains that we actually have to maintain. So going into the next slide, so we have our, what we call our capital improvement crews. So what that means is we have, we do some in-house design where our engineering department will, we still hire consultants, but we do the smaller projects on in-house design. And what we can do is some of those projects get contracted out for contractors, and then some of them get done with our in-house capital improvement crews. We currently have a five-man pipe bursting crew and a three-man directional drilling crew. And what the, to give you a quick synopsis of what pipe bursting is, is we have a machine that goes in the old pipe, it goes in, breaks it, and then the new pipe comes in. Directional drilling is we have a unit, it's the boring machines that you see all around town that you see a lot of fiber companies use. We have one of those as well. And doing that, we're seeing roughly about a 30 to 40% savings from hiring contractors. So that's a significant savings for the citizens of Arlington. So we're looking at trying to grow that department in the future and the more projects we can do in-house the more savings that we're going to be able to accomplish because the problem is we have a lot of aging infrastructure and it's challenging to try to replace those in a timely manner. We have to, you know, everything costs money, as they say. So we have to be able to manage those projects appropriately. If you look at, we have 11,613 remote meters installed. Now we're about 7200 away to be full AMI. And, you know, the reason why, so if you see 11,613 and we're 7,200, the reason why we're not full AMI because at the same time we're replacing those AMI meters, we're also replacing the ones that were installed a number of years ago at the beginning of the AMI program. So we're trying to do, hit two birds with one stone, I guess you can say, so that's where we're knocking a dent in each one. So we have, if you look, it's 30,042 feet of in-house design that we have, I know the numbers on our capital improvement cruise do in-house is, the 30,000 sounds a lot more of what we do in-house design is because we actually have projects that are ongoing and you know our engineering department can move a little faster than our field crews. We have 5,000 backflow devices of what we call high hazard devices so those are, we heard what happened the news some time ago you know those are extremely important. Backflow devices protect drinking water system. So it's extremely important that we have a proactive program to maintain and make sure that those are inspected. And what we did is we actually just contracted with VIPO. It's an online backflow software program. So what that does is the backflow testers can submit all their testing online. And then it automatically they house the data they do basically everything they will mail letters out for notices for us so what that does is that took that body that actually did that and we were able to allocate that body to do something else so it's just trying to use technology to be a little bit more efficient because we know every FTE edition does cost money to the ratepayersers. And if you look at where we have the 5.28 overflows per 100 miles, what that means is EPA wants us to be about 8. So as long as we have, we stay around 8 overflows per 100 miles, we're in good shape. So maintaining the 5 means that we're going above and beyond and we're in extremely good shape. The license and I apologize, I put a booklet next to each and every one of you all so that kind of helps. I apologize, I did not say that at the very beginning, but you do have a booklet that has all this information in that booklet. So looking at the licensing, the licensing is extremely important. So every water operator and sewer operator has to be licensed through TCEQ. And that's basically to ensure that they've had the training and the knowledge to be able to operate the water system for Arlington. And, you know, roughly when you look at it, we have 218 licensing. So that's a lot of training that goes into our staff. We want to make sure that our staff's trained extremely well to be able to provide the best customer service for the citizens. The next slide talks about our Peer Spurts Water Treatment Plant. So back in 2021, you all approved a $112 million construction project for a number of upgrades. And we've had our clear wells that needed to be upgraded. We have our chemical feed station that needed to be upgrade. But then also the insertion of generators. So with what happened in snow McGet in SB3 came out. So we had to improve our generator power. So with this project, we were able to add 3, 2500 KW generators, which means if we lose power, we're able to run at 100% capacity at our pier spurt's wall. If we were able to add 3, 2500 KW generators, which means if we lose power, we're able to run at 100% capacity at our Pierce Birch water treatment plant. So that puts us in very good shape. At our JK plant, we run about, we have enough generators to run at 50% capacity, but that's a 97.5 million gallon a day water plant. And Pierce Birch is a 75 million gallon a day water plant. And then, you know, we took out a drinking water loan through the Texas Water Development Board and that's going to save us roughly $21 million through the life of that loan. We're looking at a .18% interest rate and what the market was at the time that we took those bonds out for sale. It was roughly a 2.7% interest rate. So that Texas Water Development Board loan is definitely going to help us long term. The next slide you'll see these group of guys out here. So they work for our asset management team in our engineering department. So those are the field crews for asset management. I wish in water utilities we had a crystal ball to be able to tell the future because it's, you know, hard to know when that water main is going to break, when that line needs to be replaced. But these guys help us with that crystal ball. So they go out in the system and they camera all of our sewer lines. And then they take with that camera, they go back back and they analyze the data They analyze the integrity of the pipeline and that kind of puts us on a Future master plan you can say of when we need to replace this line so on and so forth But then what they also do is look at erosion, you know a lot of we have a lot of creek crossings well Now we're getting a lot of creek crossings that weren't creek crossings when they were installed. We just had from all the rain, it's eroding the areas around the pipeline and then those pipelines can cave in. And that's extremely important for us because if we don't catch those things, we have a failure, a main break, and then obviously we have to isolate the line and that impact service to the residents. And we're looking at every, all these pieces kind of a line and they take, we take this data, put it with our engineering department and then they come up with the master plan, which is our capital improvement plan that you'll see later on in the year that we categorize everything and when we're going to replace what line so on and so forth. We actually added a drone to this team. There are about two more weeks before they're fully licensed to be able to fly that drone. The police department has been phenomenal on teaching my staff how to fly this drone. And so we're getting ready to put that out. And that's going to help us a lot with just the timeline around checking for Creek Crossing's erosion or right away's pipelines. It's going to help with safety because now rather than sending our guys out there and having to go through the different terrains, we can just fly that drone and it can inspect all our right away's and all our creek crossing. So that's again another, I guess you can say another technology piece that we're adding to it to make it a little bit more efficient because that drone you can plug in a program and it can literally fly That area while let's say they're inspecting a manhole in that same area So we're kind of another thing able to knock out two birds with one stone So a lot of y'all were at the grand opening of our new lab that's located at our JK water treatment plant. Well, that lab is up and going. It's working phenomenal. As you can see, we do about 6,877 samples. What is what we did last year? And if you look at the timeline, it goes to 15,201 analysis and 28,052 substances. So what that mean is we take those 6,000 samples, but we'll test them for like 15 different parameters. And that's where we have to log everything because everything gets submitted to TCEQ. So having that state of the art lab is we're able to do a lot of these things faster. So we're able, we do have customer cities that use our lab and then we do charge for those services. And services, and so this is able to expedite the services a little bit better. And we take 180 samples, so per TCQ, we have to take 180 samples for our population. So that's where our field crews go out there, take those samples, analyze them, and then come back. We have to do that once a month, if we not, puts us in violation. So it's a very important that we conduct those samples. And then at the bottom you'll see no lead service lines. So what that mean is the EPA put out what it's called the LCRR, the lead and copper rule revision. So by October of 2024 we had to catalog every single water service in the entire city. So it's roughly 114,000 services we had to go out and had to inspect them, visually inspect them. Then we had to input all that data in a database and then we had to put it on our website and be posted to the public by October of 2024. So again, the staff did a phenomenal job being able to accomplish that. And then we met our EPA requirement. Out of all those services that were inspected, we had 189 that were flagged, I guess you can say, as possible led. What that means is it's a galvanized line that could have been connected to a led line. So that puts us in very good shape for his old as certain parts of Arlington is to have that 189 number in there. That's extremely good. So what that means is by 2037, we have to either work with the homeowner, encourage them. We're still in the process of coming up with the good program on how we do that, but we either have to 100% verify that there's no lead in that line or replace those 187 services, 189 services. Sorry about that. So we got some time, but we are actively looking at a program to address those concerns. And then the next slide talks about our customer service area. So we get a lot of phone calls. I will tell you that. So phone calls we had about 128,000 calls that they, the resident submitted payments to. We had 312 that are automatically done. We don't have to, it just automatically comes to the bank account. And then we have 5100 payments at our 24 hour kiosk. So we have two kiosk located one at City Hall, one at our South Service Center, those are 24 hour. We do have another one located at the East Library, but that one's only opened during normal business hours. But on all those locations, the residents can make their payments. And then we also partner with Fidelity Express locations. So if you've seen you see them at Walmart small gas stations the residents are able to go in there and make payments on their water bill So just trying to give the residents all avenues to pay their bill just try to make it more convenient as we can on them and Then the next slide talks about our award-winning conservation program So I know there was some time Mayor Ross and I met with TRWD, Terrent Regional Water District is who we get our raw water from. And you know, there's a concern of the rapid growth that DFW is experiencing. So, you know, we're kind of hitting water conservation extremely hard. And that's where partnering with TRWD there's a lot of programs we've been able to create. So TRWD has a system that the residents can go online and create irrigation evaluation, request the irrigation evaluation and we had 1,149 residents request that through TRWD free of charge. It does not cost the residents nothing. And then we had 177 water efficient shower heads replaced. So what that was is a program where the residents can come into our customer care facilities and bring their old shower head and we give them a new one. That's a little bit more efficient. And the one that we had that was extremely good was we had 13 Arlington schools and 778 fifth graders take part in the conservation captains program. So that is a very cool program where all AISD, MISD that's in Arlington and charter schools can request this program. It's a full curriculum that's developed around DFW water. So it's not just a nationwide curriculum. It's actually developed around DFW water. And there's a lot of things that the kids get to learn. I got some things here. So one of them that we provide is a timer. So basically what we teach the students is they time the shower. How long they take showers for. So you know some of us have kids you're always getting on them. Why you take such long showers so on and so forth. So this is just trying to give them a little bit more accountability and you know the students love it. You know they're getting excited. They're coming in. Oh I was able to cut my shower by 30 seconds so on and so forth. So it's another tool that they're using. And then this bucket is part of it where they can actually take a shower and they put this bucket in the shower. So as you're taking a shower, the extra water comes in here. And when they're done taking the shower, they'll go out and water a plant, so on and so forth. So it's trying to, again, hit two birds with one stone. And you's been a really good program with the students. And with this program is we actually do a one-to-one match with TRWD. So TRWD is our partner on this program. And the teachers can actually qualify for in-class grants that help them purchase supplies, different things that they need. But the cool thing about this is when the kids go and they learn these things, they bring them home. And sometimes we have parents that actually call us and say, hey, my kids talking about this or whatever, what are they talking about? And then through a conversation, they get interested in their life. Why'd I like to come tour the the water treatment plan or something like that so it builds an interest and That's what we're trying to do is push education for water conservation because we want everyone to use water wisely and We also have our minor plumbing repairs programs. So what that is is a program that Arlington residents can apply for and They they actually apply through the Arlington urban ministry and we helped 23 residents last year and they can apply for minor plumbing repairs up to $1,500. There's you know certain criteria that they have to meet but this has been a great program that I think has helped out you know residents in their time of need. And you know with conservation, we're looking at leak detection. We're looking at Texas smartscape. So we have our pollinator garden that we're getting a lot of residents and volunteers coming out and learning about smartscape, drought tolerant plants. And, you know, we have our leak detection staff that goes out there and identifies, you know, these potential water leaks that we have to try to reduce our water loss. And we next year into your report, you'll have it, but right now we'll just give you like a quick surprise. We actually have our, we're going to have our first ever water leak detection dog. So his name is Splash. He's currently six months old and he is in training and I will tell you he is doing a great job in training right now And what this is going to do is he's going to work with our leak detection crew and leak detection crew And he will actually be able to locate water leaks with the smell of chlorine So it's it's kind of an exciting program. We adopted him from the Arlington animal Control. So, you know, it's kind of given the dog another purpose. And the name splash came up as we kind of send out a survey to all of the Arlington Water Utility staff with a couple different names and splashes what one. So, the one thing I will kind of lead y'all with before we get into questions is a new program and there's a couple of y'all that are going to be involved in that. We're launching Arlington Water Utilities University. So the first day is actually tomorrow. It's a five week course that we encourage the residents to take part in because we want residents to kind of to come learn what we do. We want to be transparent in what we do and just kind of help educate them on the world of water. So I will tell you we got Council Member Galantin, Council Member Gonzales that are going to be a part of that program with about 20 other residents. And you know it's I think it's going to be a great program. We got a lot of interest from it. And, you know, after the application deadline, we did have a lot of residents reach out to us with interest to do it. So again, with all these things would not be possible without, you know, the water utility staff. So Tracy Peterson, my marketing coordinator or communication coordinator, did a great job with her and her staff working with Jay's team to kind of put together the booklet that you have. You know, again, this is a good partnership that we have again mayor and council. We could not do this without y'all support. You know, definitely appreciate y'all support. The resident support is extremely important because without the resident support, we couldn't be able to put these programs with water conservation, so on and so forth. And the last slide, as you can see, we did our first annual Arlington Water Utilities Awards lunch where we recognize our employee of the years and employee of the quarters and provided lunch to the staff. With that, I will end it and open it up for any questions. Any questions or comments for Alex from Council? Dr. Odom Wesley. Thank you Alex so much for this update and this annual report. I'm happy to hear especially about the conservation efforts and pushing out education. Tell me can we still brag today about having a ward winning water? Yes ma'am definitely. I'd say we got the best water. We're getting ready to take some water, to Texas water in two weeks for the best drinking water award, the contest. So I'm hoping we win. Maybe we'll bring back the gold with that. Good, thank you. I hope that was a rhetorical question because we all know we have the best water here in Texas. Anybody else? Tray? Hey Alex, could you talk a little bit about water loss and you know there in Austin there's a lot of discussion about water access and a lot of concern or maybe even frustration at certain cities about leaky pipes and all that and And just speak a little bit to that situation kind of globally and maybe then more specifically here about what we experience as our own water loss. Yes, sir. So, you know, water losses is extremely important. Water is what they call blue gold. So, you know, we want to make sure that we're taking care of it. And, you know, there's different mandates that is put out that if you your water losses pass a certain level there's a little bit more restrictions regulatory restrictions and guidelines that is put on you. Thank God our water losses roughly around 9% 9.5% The ultimate goal you know that I have to bring our water loss down is 6% and that's where as as Trey was saying, leaky pipes, that's where our capital improvement plan does come into play. We want to make sure that we are replacing the pipelines and reducing those main breaks. Because what happened is when there's a water main break, you know, all that water is lost. I mean, that's where the water loss comes from. So having a good proactive capital improvement plan Will have that will help that but then also having our proactive leak detection crew the leak detection dog so on and so forth will help identify those Those potential leaks. So what happens is is most of the time when you have a main break You'll see the water bubbling up So what we're trying to attack is that water that's going in the storm drains or the sanitary sewer that you don't know that you have a leak unless you lose water pressure. So that, again, is where the leak detection dog will come into effect and use in different technologies. So we contracted with a satellite leak detection company that's going to do what is called scans and then they'll give us points of interest. So what those points of interest do is put us within a 300 foot radius where there's a potential leak. And then at that point, our leak detection staff with the equipment and then also in the future with the canine we'll be able to go pinpoint those leaks. And that's what we're really trying to identify is the leaks that are going in the storm drains in the sewer that we cannot identify. That's what's hitting us hard on the water loss. Anybody else? Thank you, Alex. Appreciate you. Now move on down to 3.3 Deputy City Manager Jennifer Wakeman. Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'm here with an update on another one of your priorities. Today we're going to talk about support youth and families and what we have going on with that effort. So this is created back in 2019. It's sort of this is your, that we have two business plan items currently on this and this is the general description of how you all, the importance of youth and families and why you all are supporting that. The business plan items, so the two of the things I wanna update you on is there is one to coordinate with the United Way to Improve our 211 outreach and referrals in Arlington. That is on track to continue to work with the staff over there to make sure they've got updated information so they can answer that answer questions from Arlington residents. As you may remember, it's actually consolidated statewide so it's not located in Arlington anymore but we work hard to make sure those folks have the information about what is going on in Arlington because it's a much cheaper and more cost effective solution. And then the Family Self-Sufficiency Program is a program within our Arlington Housing Authority and this helps families who are receiving housing assistance to save a certain amount of their rent, also get some education when they graduate from that, they get a lump sum that they can put towards important investments like homes or education or elements like that. And I would be remiss if I didn't also pause here to mention that we have a very exciting event coming up this month. Our active adult center is opening. This month we're going to have a soft opening during the week of the 17th. An official ribbon cutting on the 26th of March the grand opening we're very excited for that. That location is going to have so many things for seniors It's going to have a social side of things. It's going to have an active side of things with an indoor walking track and a gymnasium and fitness equipment. The one thing that won't be open day one is the pool. There was a little bit of an issue with the drainage. So that's being worked out. But that's a few weeks in the delay, sort of a six to 10 weeks delay but everything else will be working. We're super excited to open that and have a lot of our over 50 residents use that as they go to Jim for working out. So a few program highlights from a couple other things that are going on. We opened the Metabruc ability inclusive playground. I think almost all of you were there. It was a really exciting day. And we had had a great time, but that's terrific. That was held in November, so within the first quarter. And it's really designed to accommodate children of all abilities. They have wheelchair-friendly transitions. It's not just simply accessible. It's inclusive, which is an important element. And then over in the east, they have an after-school water safety program. This is focused on reducing drownings or eliminating drownings of children and it's included in their after-school program. So it's something that the after-school staff is collaborative with aquatic staff and they work together to teach just some simple safety skills for the children who were in those programs. So looking at the score card, we have, we're on track with issuing new library cards, which is terrific. Additionally, the library app My Libro, which helps patrons manage their, the books that they take out, they understand they know when they're available, they can come pick them up, they can sort of reserve them. That's very helpful. Our Arlington Urban Design Center is doing very well. Already in the first quarter, 50% of what they did last year with the projects that are going on down there. So that partnership with UTA is alive and strong and really being bring invigorated, which is terrific, doing a good job there. and then our Arlington Police Department hometown recruiting students that are enrolled in AISD. We actually had 15 last year, we have 17 this year, which is exciting. So we're looking forward to those students and their futures. Some upcoming projects and initiatives. These are both from our library. Two important things. One is a large print youth reading collection. They've found that this really helps young people not only have visual impairments but also who face reading challenges. Having the larger type is helpful for them as they are learning to read. And then there's also a sensory friendly quiet reading space for some of our children and their parents who would benefit from some low stimulation spaces. And so this is also a, I mean, our library used to be very quiet spaces. Our library issue, you all have been there. It's a very exciting and a place. So sometimes it can get loud. And this is a space within the library that can be quiet for those students, so those young people who need that. And so we have a lot of different departments that work on this priority, I'm happy to answer any questions for you all. If you have any questions from Councilor Mr. Gonzalez. Thank you Mayor, for you all. If you have any questions from Council, Mr. Gonzalez. Thank you Mayor, thank you Jennifer. You mentioned maybe animal essay contest. Is that something you all do? I know that's Sherry's, but is that something that the city helps with? And the reason I'm asking is because mantra ISD used to be participate, they would get emails and they have not gotten any. So, if whoever's in charge of that, if they could re-talk to the schools again, they would really would appreciate it We absolutely can that's something we do out of our animal services department, which is in parks now And so we can definitely pass that information along the man's field wants to be included. Okay. Thank you Sure any other questions or comments from council dr. Odom Wesley Thank you for this report. I had a couple of questions. You said we issued I think 15,000 library cards. Do we know what percentage went to youth? Or do we know the breakdown between youth cards and adult cards? You know, I believe we do that's not one of the, that's not one of the score card items that I highlighted. But I can certainly email that to you in the council later, but I don't know it off my head. Okay and do we have any examples of the urban design center projects what kinds of things are they doing for us? They do all sorts they'll help private businesses sort of envision what what things could look like we also for the city uses them as well. Lindsay, do you have one that you would want to describe or give an example of? Lindsay Mitchell is our director of strategic initiatives and they manage the, oh, sorry. Jacob Browning is the one who actually manages it. I'll let him describe some. Jacob. Hey, yeah, good afternoon, Jacob Browning strategic initiatives, a manager and manager that urban design center. Uh, can you repeat the question for me? I was just asking about some examples or what kinds of projects we get out of the Urban Design Center. So right now we're working on interior designs for the Arlington live shelter. We're working with some neighborhoods with landscaping projects like that. And then we're working with the Verdean neighborhood right now with kind of creating an Arbor item right there along the lake. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for Jennifer? Okay. Thank you, Jennifer. We're going to move on down to discuss our informal staff reports. Y'all have an opportunity to look at those. For the sake of time, we'll take them one at a time. See if anybody has any questions on any of them. We'll start with 4.1 landmark preservation and commission annual report. Any questions for either Lindsey or Jacob? Dr. Odom Wesley. Thank you. Oh, Jacob's back. Thank you for the report. I read that we are in good standing. With our landmark and preservation. Commission efforts. Is that the highest ranking? I don't believe the Texas Historical Commission has a ranking. So there are certain criteria each year that we have to meet to maintain our sort of local government status. And so we are continuing to maintain that status. OK, so we're good. We're good. OK, thank you. And I really enjoyed reading your strategic plan and how organized it is with the committees and specificity under each one of your goals. So thank you for that. Thank you Mr. Galante Thank you for for the report very informative. How are we doing on the survey the the historic Resource Survey on the historic preservation commission so if you remember me presenting last summer on on the historic preservation commission. So if you remember me presenting last summer on kind of the historic preservation program, we do have a historic resources survey that was adopted back in 2007. So the LPC, the Landmark Preservation Commission uses that document to measure against what is historic and what's not. It is outdated because it is almost 20 years old. I can't do math up here. So, yes, we are, we would like to get that updated as soon as possible. We know that there are budget constraints coming up. And I've mentioned that to the LPC. So we are hopefully working towards getting that updated soon. Thank you. Any other questions for Jacob? Thanks Jacob. Thank you. 4.2 any questions for Anne Fawse on Arlington Express Transportation Pilot Pro services? Hello, Anne. Seeing Dr. Odom Wesley. I don't really have a question. I just want to say I'm excited about this coming to us, the dynamic Express Service and let's see, when are we going to start? And? Yes, and FOSS Planning and Programming Manager for the Transportation Department. The Arlington Express Service, we're planning, as of right now, a soft launch starting on March 31st, and then opening to the general public a couple of weeks after that in mid-April. And we already have these white vans. They'll be here in the next week or two, so you might see them out before the end of the month doing some testing before it launches. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Yes, Mr. Ard. Thank you, Mayor. And maybe I just missed it. I read it a little earlier. How long do we expect this pilot to go on what's our timeline? And then also what's our, how do we measure success? Sure. We have gotten funding from the North Central Texas Council of Governments for three years of operations. And some of the metrics that we'll be looking at closely are related both to how the Arlington Express Service is performing. So, you know, how many seats are we filling on those vans, on-time performance, things like that. But we're also looking really closely at how this service can help us improve efficiency and effectiveness of our broader on-demand service. So, by layering in this Arlington Express Service, we hope to see improved efficiency, freeing up some of the other vans to provide on-demand trips across the rest of the city, also an enhanced rider experience with a more guaranteed ride to make those train connections at the Centerport TRE station. So we'll be looking at trips that were made, similar trips made from the downtown area in UTA up to centerport on the on-demand service and then comparing those to the express service to see, you know, are those trips more direct, a little bit faster? How are they functioning? And on that three year, you know, the COGS providing 1.2 million and we're 281. Is that an annual or is that over the three years? That's for the three years. That's for the full three. Okay, thank you for that. And so in essence, what I'm hearing you say even more is, you know, by freeing up some vans, we should see some potentially more revenue to help cover this a little bit as 281 from some of these vans at other rides at other times. Yes, that's the goal. I mean, I think with all of our innovative approaches to transportation, we're always looking for ways to improve the service that we're offering to our residents and help to control costs. So, you know, each year we are seeing incremental costs across services, but we're hoping that by introducing these innovations we can keep those costs costs more level, control the costs, but still get more service for the amount that we're spending. Anya, and there's a lot that goes into pricing for VIO, which we've had a lot of discussions about. You know I'm a believer and how do we adjust some of that? Does this pilot with it being from COG limit us if we did want to do any type of fee increase to adjust for inflation coming up in the future. Fair adjustments are always a topic that we can pursue with Council direction. For the Arlington Express Service we are setting the fares to start at least at $3 per person per trip and that's the same fare that we charge on the on-demand service to and from this and report TRE station. But yes, we can certainly look at fair changes. We do, the funding from COG is Federal Transit Administration funding. So the same FTA rules would apply. There's a public hearing and a public notification process for any decrease in service or increase in fair. Right. I'm just making sure it doesn't limit us on we could do that following all the rules. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for Anne? One more, Mayor. Yes, Dr. Odom Weissley. So the vans are going to run from 6 a.m. to 8 a.m. And then from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. So what happens to these white vans all day long? Are they just sitting there unused? No, that's one of the benefits of this dynamic service. Is the service will run to center port when there is the need for it. And then other times of the day, those vans will be deployed in with the rest of our on-demand fleet. So again, it's a larger capacity vehicle. It's going to be able to provide more service with the same number of vehicles across the full fleet. Okay, I was just wondering if that might be confusing because they're a different color, but I did read they'll be wrapped the same right. So it will be recognizable by the citizens. Definitely. They will look different. They are a little bit bigger. They will be white instead of black as the base color. But the logo, the wrap, the language on them will all be the same as our existing on-demand fleet. And you get that through your via app, just like you do all the risks on demand services. Correct. Riders will need to book the ride and pay for it either through the Arlington Transportation app or our local phone number that they can call to speak to a customer service agent. So you won't be able to just stand at one of the stops and hail the ride. You will need to book your seat and pay for your ride in advance. Okay. Thank you. Looking forward to it. We are too. Thank you. Okay. We're going to move on down to 4.3, Mr. Gonzalez. Thank you Mayor. The Transportation Municipal Infrastructure Committee met all members were present the public works presented a pilot project for medium bear designs aimed at improving pedestrian safety and deterring panhandling at two key intersections. Randall mail road and green oaks bullvard in south audentin are in north audentin and then in south audentin met lock road and subit road. the project goals focus on maintaining traffic and pedestrian safety, what minimizing destruction to the median. The pilot project is implemented to work in conjunction with the contribute to the solution signs that were placed throughout the city, but these are mostly to keep people from standing on those media and collecting money. I think those two intersections, we see a lot of young students collecting money for tournaments and car washes and stuff like that. So they talked about a different design considerations. They talked about several barriers, different kinds of materials that are available. And I think if you went online, you could look at all of them. They talked about the costs, aesthetics, the maintenance, the effectiveness of deterrent pedestrian access. The recommendations for the Matlock and Subit is a raised planar bed, which is the view to look on the agenda you can see it. This is the one. And it's got the little siding and it's got rocks in the middle. And these rocks won't be loose. They'll be cemented in. So nobody will be able to pick up these rocks and start throwing at cars. And then the other one at Rendomell and Green Oaks, it'll be around it or they're suggesting a rounded median edge. These are the suggestions they've come up with and that's that one right there. So the committee fed that feedback and decision that we discussed the trade-offs between the aesthetics, the safety, long-term maintenance. There was concerns about potential maintenance, efforts and trash collection around these specific areas. The committee leaned towards collecting aesthetics, focused solutions without compromising pedestrian safety. And so we get orders out to finalize design selections, put a location and prepare construction documents based on committee feedback. So they're going to come back to the committee and make a recommendation with the cost to everything else and then you don't come before council. So any comments from any of the committee members or any questions from anybody? I've got one. Go ahead, Mr. Ross. So we're not locked in on that rounded meeting. No, I made a mistake. No, that's what they recommended. So they're going to come back to us. So nothing's said. Correct. Okay, because I drive that every single day. So I wonder would they still say, and I looked at the presentation, I see it. It's a pretty big slope on that rounded median. But I don't know if that's going to keep on standing there. Maybe it will. I'm a little hesitant over that. And also in that area, I would sit there and say that intersection the more, you know, aesthetics you have. So I appreciate you saying that because you need it right there more than you possibly ever could. Yeah, it's not this is the recommendations are going to come back to the committee again and I misspoke. So yeah, nothing's been decided and we're going to look at different things. In fact, one of the things that this. Boxel talked about, instead of having rocks, maybe having plants, or even that right-having plants, so different things the way they look. But we looked at the maintenance, the cost, and if the plants die and the trash building up, so we're looking at different things. So there were some obvious ones that we didn't like like this concrete barrier right there. So that was one that I wanted, say I wanted to copperheads in the middle but nobody like my idea of putting copperheads in the middle of the median. But they didn't think that was a good idea. Molly said that's a bad idea. And Mr. Gonzalez, I think in that area that doesn't work. But I think there are some other areas in the future. I think it's good for us to see those of what could be done in the future. Because there are some of those concrete barriers. We have major problems with pedestrians crossing some intersections, and we've had a high increase of pedestrian fatalities, and then you see, you know, I drive down Fort Worth on some areas, and they have some blocked areas so people can't cross during those area forces over there, and they've done very well aesthetically, and I know it's helped from pedestrians just running across the roads on some instances. So I appreciate seeing all the ideas that we could do in there because I do think there are places where it's with a fancy on top with. It's got some nice design on it, but in that area would not make sense. But yeah, there's other. But this is just the two phases. I mean, the two places that we're going to look at and implement that So, let's see how that goes. So, thank you all. Any other questions from Mr. Gonzalez? Thank you, sir. We're gonna move on down to 4.6 ATRTC. Back on February 26th, I attended a board meeting for TRTC, spoke mainly about the transportation investment study in the port worth district and what was going on, what wasn't going on. The deficiencies with the port worth district getting the monies compared to other districts around Texas. We talked about some of the upcoming events. There's a member meeting at March 12th in South Lake at the Mark Transportation, Tarant Transportation Summit on June 12th at the Hearst Conference Center. They also talked like every other board does right now on legislative updates on where we're at with pending bills and concerns about that. The only thing of true significance was we elected Commissioner Matt Krauss as the Secretary of Treasury of the board. Mr. Grins, yes. Did we see and meet me today? Did we skip them? They didn't meet. They didn't meet today. Okay. Yeah. And I did skip them because they didn't meet today Mr. Gonzalez North Texas Commission. Yes, thank you mayor. I am the mayor as the member of the He's the board of directors on the North Texas Commission I'm the proxy in case he's not able to 10. I did not know but there's over 170 members to the North Texas Commission. DFW is a home to 8.5 million people, and is one of the fastest-going regions in the US, as we all know, currently it's the nation's fourth largest region, and we're quickly reaching to be the top third. So there's 15 cities where the population are more than 100,000. And so this group is proud to have a, represents a strong economy, diverse economy, and this region needs specific kind of organizations to serve it. So that's why the North Texas Commission exists. Like the mayor said, we basically, it was great attendance. It was the room was full. There was a lot of people online. But most of the meeting was talked about this special presentation regarding the 119th Congress and some of the executive orders out there and how that's going to affect and how we're using our speaking powers to go out there and talk to these people. The North Texas voted and adopted the priority for the 119th Congress and then they ratified some of the new directors and then we got a logislative update for the 89th session here in Texas so it was a two hour meeting but it was well attended and one of the most organized meetings I've been a part of walked in there and everything was at your desk water pen everything else it was really cool so I definitely gave them high praise for walking in there. So. Very cool. Any questions from Mr. Gonzalez? Okay. The first time I see which is the Texas Municipal League Board of Directors, they had a legislative update that went on and had Lee attended that. So we're going to combine. Seven with the Texas Municipal League legislative update is Natalie Altna hallway. There she is. You can always let me know. Good afternoon, Natalie Ralston, Intergovernmental Relations Manager. As Mayor said, I attended the TML Board meeting last week on his behalf. And they did cover a large legislative update, most of which I was already planning to cover with you today, so we'll just get into that. So far, there have been 5600 bills filed today. We've got 10 days left till bill filing ends, so it's expected that a flurry is about to come at us. We covered last week or was it last week, yes. Several bills of note that we related to HFCs, so I won't go over those. We covered a couple of land use bills as HB878 and 673. But I wanted to update you on a couple of others that were filed, and then one that was filed today that's not in the memo, it was just filed a couple of hours ago. The two that are in the memo is HB2480 by Representative and it would allow us to regulate ADUs and it has impact fees for larger ADUs and all kinds of things related to that. HB2225 would mandate that we provide 60 days notice before public hearing for land use assumptions and capital improvement plans. And there's other regulations within that. But the bill that was filed today is SB 15. It was the one we've all been kind of waiting on. It relates to lot size regulations. So one section is about Greenfield lot sizes. And they've defined Greenfield to mean a track that is five acres or more and has no recorded map or plat. And it would be platted and located in areas zoned for single family homes. Within this greenfield regulation, cities can't adopt or enforce a regulation that requires a lot to be larger than 1,400 square feet, more than 20 feet wider, 60 feet deep, and have a ratio that results in 31.1 lots breakers. So those are the same numbers from last session, but that bill that would have applied everywhere. This is narrowed it to specifically Greenfield lots. There are also a section about small lot regulations, meaning lots that are less than 4,000 square feet. And there are a lot of requirements in there that we can't require a more than a five foot setback. We can't require covered or off site parking requirement of more than one space. We can't require more than 30% open space or permeable surface and several other things. I won't read you all of them. I'll get that into the next update and you can look that bill up or I can show you where it is so that we can get into that. But it's bracketed, unfortunately, to 300,000 or more, so I didn't get 500,000 into that one. So that will definitely be impacting us. And since it's a low bill number, it's in the Lieutenant Governor's priority number, so that's probably going to be the one that is the one we have to pay attention to. Moving on from land use, we've talked about HBA and HB9, the property tax proposals, and SB4. HB8 and 9 were heard yesterday and I was not able to listen to the hearing and I haven't had a chance to catch up to see what the status is and how those have come out but they're probably still just pending at this point. SB4 has passed out of the house and has received in the Senate. HB217 would change the voting requirements for for voters to approve the voter, approve tax rate, I'm sorry. And it would require at least a 60% approval of the voters to raise the tax rate. And that's been referred to the Ways and Means Committee. There have been several DEI bills related to prohibiting the implementation of hiring and training programs and practices related to dedicated departments hiring of vendors, training and development. And then another bill that just kind of eliminates everything and would include loss of eligibility for state grant funding and other penalties if a municipality is found to be in violation. The school choice bills are moving. SB2 has been passed out of the Senate, received in the House and referred to the Public Education Committee. And HB3, which is the Texas Education Savings Account in the House, has been referred to the Public Education Committee and it's scheduled for hearing next week. Several debt bills would require that bond elections require a two-thirds supermajority to be approved. There's some variations within there, two-thirds supermajor majority only. Two-thirds of a majority, and it must be held in the November election date. Or all debt-related bills must be, or debt-related elections must be held in November. So it was, wait to see where those are gonna move. Let's see. Another one would predict what a restrict a political subdivision from authorizing anticipation notes or COs if the proposal for the same purpose was rejected within the five preceding years. So put a five year moratorium on coming back with that. Public safety there are several immigration related bills that would require cities to contract or enter into agreements with immigration and customs enforcement. Some of them would, we would have to just take their contract as is and it's not negotiable. Others would allow victims of the crime caused by persons illegally in the country to sue if the city does not have a policy to enforce or does not enforce state and immigration laws, state and federal immigration laws. There's a bill for that wood in the personnel world would seek to mandate civil service for police and fires and cities over 25,000 so that would apply to our fire department. I mean our police department. An open government bill that would change our posting requirements from 72 business hours to three business days so that would give more notice for meetings. There's a good bill that's in this list. So I've got a positive note. HB1893 is a bill that we are proposing. We filed it last time with Representative Koch. It was 5,000 five last time. It would clarify that license plates do not need to be redacted and video recordings maintained by law enforcement. So it makes it able to be more responsive to open records requests. And that has been refiled and is waiting to be referred. And then there are a variety of community advocacy bills, which are lobby bills. There are several that cities cannot, their political subdivisions can't spend public funds on lobbyists or state nonprofit associations like TML. There are several like that that have no exceptions than several that have to have exceptions. And then two bills that are relating to regulating online global marketplaces, but that is a phrase that would seem to indicate short-term rental platforms. And so we're looking into that to see if that's exactly what that means. So that's all I have for state. I know that's a lot. So if there are questions, I'm happy to answer. Mr. Peel. I know we can't hear any bills for the first day. Yes. This new committee are announcing the setting of bills for committee hearing. They do it before the 60 days expires, right? Yes, sir. I would imagine middle of next week since the post-NAOE 14th and they have the three day requirement too. So we should start hearing something next week for the following week. That's what I thought. And the other thing is, is anything in that wins about Chris Turner and his legislation regarding TAD and its behavior? He does have several, and I meant to include them in here, and I just apologize for not having added them. But there are several, there's two for sure, one that is looking at undoing some of the things that have been done. I don't have the specifics in my head, I do apologize, but I will send that to you separately and then get that into the next update. I thought I read some favorable feedback on that from the Republican side. They're just some see it. and that to you separately and then get that into the next update. I thought I read some favorable feedback on that from the Republican side. There does seem to be some positive energy in the air around those things. Good, good, cool. Thank you. Any other questions for Natalie or Jay? Jay's going to still cover federal. Just wanted to update a few things in the federal memo. Yesterday it looked like there might be some headway on averting a government shutdown today. The headlines are that we're at a stalemate again. This is probably going to be a seesaw back and forth until we hit March 14th when the deadline runs out for funding the current government. Although I do think there's some positive news in that that the administration is willing to have a continuing resolution just to keep funding the government until the new budget, the 26th budget has passed and is enacted in the new fiscal year. And then Mr. Peel, you'd asked for some budgetary type numbers. You know, we get a lot of different grants. So it'd be difficult to, we have all that, but it'd be difficult to put all that in a spreadsheet and for it to be very digestible. And grant funding from the federal government, you know, is not what I would call a reliable source of income for us. What is reliable is more the formula funding. So at the end of the memo here, I've listed the formula funding that we get primarily in like four or five different buckets, housing, transit for via and for handy train, our CDBG home, all those types of grants that we get routinely at public safety with our UOCies, what they, you know, the term for it, the government ease for it, but all of our homeland security type grants that we get. So I've listed those out, the contract tower program. We don't have specific numbers on because it's really kind of they almost consider proprietary in terms of how much they spin on the air traffic controllers that we have at our airport. But that would be another component of one of the federal kind of recurring money that is received for the operation of the city's business. Thank you when you refer to your desk. Oh, it's at my desk. It has been uploaded since. Okay, cool. All right. So all the numbers are included within the memo in terms of the dollar amounts we're getting in those. Okay, there it is. All right, cool. Thank you. Any other questions for Jay or Natalie? Thank you. Thank you. 4.8 Evening Agenda items. Anybody have anything you'd like to talk to Mr. Gonzalez? Yes, sir. I'd like to know why this came up and what are the changes? How does it affect our citizens and everything else? Good afternoon, all of Jones, chief of police. So there are five different areas that we're looking to change for the audience. The first one is dealing with our PSAs. Right now, currently as it stands, if they want to tow a vehicle in our city, they have to call an officer out to the scene, and you officer have to give them approval to actually make the tell. With the change, they don't have to do that anymore. If there's a vehicle that is in violation of the law, more parking violation, they automatically can make the call themselves to have a record come out. That's the first change. Well, it would mean the same record that would have come before. Yeah, so it has to be a license record for the city. So that is not going to change. Just going to, only thing is going to change is giving them the option to be able to make it a little bit more efficient for us. The second area that is going to change in the ordinance is the dispatch protocol. Right now, if a record wants to tow a vehicle in our city, or if a private citizen wants a vehicle towed, the record would actually notify our dispatch that they're going to the call and that they're gonna tow the vehicle. That is just an extra layer that we don't need. So what they're gonna be able to do is the citizen is going to be able to call a Record that is licensed Without notifying our dispatch that they had an accident or or if the other option is if that there if there is an accident the Citizen can choose whether they want us to call or if they want to call their own record As long as the record is licensed in our city and they can get to the scene within a certain amount of time, then we allow them to do that. The third area that is going to change is the notification to the notification. So if there is, the record doesn't have to call us. If a citizen calls them and say, hey, my car's broke down or whatever, they don't have to call dispatch and say, hey, we are going to dispatch, they can automatically go there. They just have to make sure they're licensed in the city and they're licensed through the state. Then the fourth area that is going to change is the wheel strap and that is well beyond my school. But basically is being able to tie the vehicle down once it's told and making sure that they have the proper straps that can secure the vehicle on top of the record. And then the last area, and I think this is We have to be able to respond to the city. We have to be able to respond to the city. We have to be licensed within Arlington. We have to be able to respond to are supposed to be licensed within Arlington. Right now currently, we probably have about 12% of the records that are supposed to be licensed, registered with us. So this will actually take away that piece where they don't have to get registered through Arlington, but they still have to be registered through the state and they still have to go through the state license in all of those things. What this non-conset toll would do for us as a police department is that right now every record supposed to get inspected by our commercial vehicle unit and like I said 12% of them are in the rest of them haven't been. And that is extra money that we have to or looking at budget. That is extra areas where we can say, okay, we can cut this service. Because it's not no longer benefiting us. We do not generate and we can't and we do not generate any kind of revenue from that. And all we do is pay in our officers and that's with time. So we're just trying to make it more efficient for our residents and try to make sense for us for the police department. And with regards to the citizen can now select their towing company. So the police have to wait there until the truck truck comes in. So there's an accident and they choose to have their own right in the police calling theirs going ours. We will still remain there, but that's what the timeframe is. We usually give them 20 to 30 minutes to be able to get to the scene to be able to take the car. If they can't then you know it's a hazard then we're going to do what we normally do call our record license record that that are that we use and they'll come out to the scene and that was my concern because if they're there a long time and if you wait 25 minutes and they're not there in 25 minutes now you've got another 25 minutes and that car is just gonna sit down inside the road and it's gonna cause even more backup and people are like what's going on here so we're like I said that that's, you know, we're gonna be working through that. We just wanna make sure that it makes sense. You know, Given them ample time to use their own tell company, but if they can't respond within a certain time, then we're gonna actually. And why we, remind me what the reason is, they wanna use their own instead of the police just. Well, there's a number of, what if I an accident, if I want to call triple A, maybe it does charge me the trophy or the fee to take it to a different occasion. So it's just about, you know, trying to make it easier for our citizens to tell where they want it to be told to. And then the ones that are licensed, if we have an issue where they don't come out three or four times within the 25 minutes, Is there chance they can get their license revoked or saying hey you're not we're not gonna renew the city. You're talking about the ones that are like so yeah we we've actually work with bears and they normally know I'm talking about the other ones. The other companies yeah they're licensed. No that's that's you know obviously we're not gonna be able to determine what vehicle vehicle or what's tow company is shoot or shouldn't or didn't get there in 30 minutes. So, so it can be any campaign. It can be any. Okay. I'm just going to show you license. Yeah, long to license by the state. Into the state. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for a lot, Dave. Thank you, Jeff, for the explanation. Just to clarify, so right now we have a company that does our towing if the police officer requests a towing, the pull towing, right? Yes. Okay, so one company only. Yes, right. So, changing this ordinance, what I understand is now the operator of the vehicle, right? The owner of the vehicle has the option to call his own don't company. And not what he hears. Let me try. Yes, they do, but not in every and every circumstance. It's not every time that there's an accident, they're going to say, well, I want to call my own. Sometimes it's a hazard and we was like, no, we don't have an opportunity to wait because we get I clear this road. So it's about the officers and allowing them to look at it and make the decision. If someone says, yeah, know what I want to use my own toe because there's no hazard or it's on the side of the road and the traffic can get by, then why not allow them? And that was my question because you said, we give them 20 minutes, 30 minutes to show up. But then in situations that is a hazard for somebody else, there's this crash-on-ery decision of a reasonable time given or not is from the officer on the scene. It's the officer's perspective. If the officer feels that this vehicle is not a hazard and it's not a hazard, you know, it can take longer than 20, 30 minutes, right? Right. If it's in a neighborhood street, I mean, no more. If there is no danger to the public and there's not blocking the road and the easement or the access can get through and from some now. Okay. In case what happens, if the officer, I'm thinking about a situation that could escalate. The officer says, no, we're gonna tow it with our company and the person, no, I won't mind. So of course, the officer has authority in the scene, but it happens if the officer calls the dispatch for our towing company. And at the same time, the dispatch from the owner is activated. Now you get two towing companies there. So hope and we already we paying this company right so now the city has the has a bill and it was not used so what happened? No so here it is if we give allow the resident to call a tow truck and it doesn't get there in 20 minutes or 30 minutes whatever the timeframe is. Once we decide we make the call, that's our vehicle we are going to tow it and we're going to use the license to tow that we use here in the city. And they have the, they're going to get first dibs on it and the other person is going to have to be out of it. So our service that we use, there's been cancellations, like the officer calls the company and then later on they dismiss them. Do we have any costs when we dismiss them? Not that I know of now. Do we have dismissals like the officer calls the towingwing the towing show up is not necessary anymore? If we are calling them to the scene It's usually if it's beards if we call in beards to the scene then beards is probably gonna tell the car more than likely and they're gonna be los Yes, we're not bill us, but they're gonna bill the the The owner of the vehicle Okay, beards. They use the owner of the vehicle Yeah, they they disco to the owner of vehicle vehicle. Okay, it was the owner of the vehicle. Yeah, they, they, they, they, they, this go to the owner of vehicle or a shorn to whatever it is. That's, it's on that side. It's not to the city. No. Got him. Okay. That answered my question. Thank you. Mr. Tram. Okay. Okay, jeep, I've got a question for about consent and non-consent. So consent, he and Olinton, if my vehicle, if my house, I can call any tow truck and come ticket to repair shop, I have to write to do that. That's correct. That's correct. So I don't need to call the police department for that. You do? No. Now, for the non-consend, I mean, where's an accident happened? And the police officer called the scene and the vehicle not drivable. That's when the police officer can call the toll company to have contract with the city of Anton pick up the vehicle. That's correct. However, if I've involved an accident, I call a non-drive, can I tell the police officer, no, I don't want to call the company, but I want to use my company. I have to write through that and the owner of the vehicle. You do? If longs it's not a hazard. It's not in the middle of the road, it's causing a hazard, then we'll allow you to call your own. Okay. And I got another question here. So you say that the only 12 toks services that on the bison with that they certify or they register something with the city? Yeah, that's about there's 12%. That's 12%. Okay. So basically if I own a tow truck I call ABC towing and I get a text dot number and a license that mean I can do business and all that and I don't need to register with the city. Isn't that correct? That's the direction that we're moving towards yes. Yeah that kind of called me concerned because I'm an insurance business for 25 years. Because I've seen some tow company that scoopers tow company owners that come in and they say, okay, let me just box I told you vehicle I charge you 250. By the time I took a vehicle dropping up a tow yard, I used some guy tow yard. That guy said, I own this lot. Now they're going to attack all kind of fees and then our customer. I mean, now the owner that involved accident can get charged for excessive charge. And I seen that happen first. I see more happen once, okay? Also, too, that if we call the company that we have contracted us because they have the list price list, I saw that, they have to go by that, they cannot sit there then over charge of customer. So the concern I have is the people that do business because I done it for 25 years, I see it happen all the time. I know the city used them pretty bad because police officer flipped the coin who got there first. Okay, you give me money under the table. Now, I've seen that happen and there's some officer gun trouble for that, but they still doing that and they get paid and they paid the officer. They didn't get and then Houston, every time there's a wreck, you see a bunch of you. Sometimes you run by, you see two or three tow trucks and only one or two vehicles. you need two or three there to see. And so then I'll regulate down there. And... by you see two or three tow trucks and only one or two vehicles. Why you need two or three there, the scene. And so they're not regulated down there. And the say not regulated very well. Not like in Oklahoma they they're pretty strict. And I wish the the state let's just lay to on Texas do the same thing like Oklahoma. So regulate everything that if you caught out by a law enforcement officer, you cannot sit there because there's certain amount of fees. All in thing we do to get you out, we get a list. I remember the constituent complained to me and Councilmember Andrew Peel about excessive charge when I see the list that the seat author I because of the way to the vehicle. That's where they charge supposed to be. So that the co-commentary of contract with that did not overcharge the customer. So I think when I send that information to the register owner of the vehicle, I mean that person was happy with the answer we sent out to the individual. So. Yeah, I think that we're mixing up a couple of issues. So if I'm the resident, I should know who I'm calling to pick up my vehicle first, right? And I think that that's a benefit for them. We only have one tow company in the city that the Arlington Police Department calls. And that list of that you're talking about in terms of the amount for a toll in all of that is already listed out in the contract of what they can and can't charge. So that I think is already listed out here and we only have one toll company that we use. We don't have several different ones. Also, too, when I called the company, I had to happen for my truck broke down. I would ask how much you charge me from he can point eight to point B. Is it, they say, okay, that can cost me $275. I say, that's a flat fee. So when they come to my house, speaking up, I want to see that bill before I signed it, And I will pay by credit costs. I can always dispute the charges. But at least I see in writing a lot of... When they come to my house, speaking up, I want to see that bill before I signed it, and I will pay by credit costs. I can always dispute the charges, but at least I see in writing a lot of our constituents, they're not for me because I've been in a business for a long time deal with tow company, you know, and I've seen the kind of stuff I do to the consumer. So I'm going to try to put some more prepared and an average person so they cannot, you know, gouged me on the toe bill because I can always argue and fight with them But for our consitio most of them don't know the car broke now I just want to get through the shop and then they sometimes they get tricked to sign the stuff Oh, don't worry. I take care of you be 250 and then next time they know they got a bill You know get a get your credit card and it costs you like five 50 or something like that. I've seen that happen. So the good the good thing about that is our resident still can use the coat tow company that is authorized to tow cars in our city. So they still have an option. That option is not going away. Okay. All right. Thank you, chief. I'm afraid to ask if there's any more questions about tow trucks, but are there any more questions about tow trucks? Yes, Ms. Hunter. So I guess I'm just a little confused because we've went through the vetting process of getting our authorized tow company. We're still gonna use it authorized tow company, but we're just giving people options. Is that technically what this is? Yeah, so the process that we went through last year is still in place. Beards are going to be able to come into and whenever we as the police department call or need to tell Trump or tow truck to tow a vehicle, the person who won or the company that won, the bid is still going to come out. We're just giving the residents just a different option because if I can get, if I have a, if I'm a triple A member and I can call them up and have them tell it for nothing, then you know, we're just giving them an option provided that it's not a hazard. Anything else? Thank you, Chief. You're welcome. Anything else on the evening agenda items? If not, I have one on the evening agenda item on 7.3, which deals with the farmer's market. Downtown Arlington Management Corp has reached out to me, and apparently there is an issue now, because we have two downtown markets that are supposed to be happening at the same time. One of them is Steve Moia and Group, and it's gonna be on Front Street, right in front of the parking lot lot where this downtown market's going to be and then there's issues about Carrie Moon doesn't want anybody out there after five do you know anything about all of this conflict going on right now? Yes, so Jennifer from deputy city manager. We've been speaking with all the parties the We feel that the farmers market and Mr. Moe is arts fair are very compatible and we've connected those folks from what we understand. They also feel that's compatible. I also talked with Ms. Campbell from the Downtown Arlington Management Corporation. I know she conveyed some concerns about the restaurants and being able to park for their evening diners. And so Mr. Moe's permits haven't been approved yet. So we're reviewing all of that information as that goes forward. We don't think we think more activity downtown is going to be great. And so I think it's really gonna help everyone down there, but we are sensitive to the concerns that have been expressed. And we want to make sure that we aren't hurting one business by promoting another. But our planning team is working on finding that balance to make sure everyone has their place to fit in. Perfect. I just wanted to make sure you all are on it. And it sounds like you are. So thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you. Any other questions on evening agenda items? Issues relative to city or tech stop projects, anything like that. Future agenda items. Mr. Gonzalez. At the last city council meeting, I promise that I would bring this up. If we can get a informal or staff report regarding guess well set backs out. If we can make any changes there, quality monitoring and the notices that we've ended out in more than one language. I know we've had this before, but I just think we need to have a discussion again. So. Yeah, I know the promise was made. I'm happy to have staff. Look at that. I'll be surprised if we have any more pads that are done in Arlington. I think we've probably have seen our last pad going. So I don't know how much of a setback there is going to set back issues are going to be that we can let staff sort of give us a history and we're at with that. So go ahead as. As we bring that back from staff, can we also look at how other cities handle the approval process for gas wells? Because I know, I think there's some places where it doesn't even go to council. Yeah, I'd caution us on that. Maybe staff can better explain it than I. You know's always stories about, well, there's so much of a setback in this city and so much of a setback in this city over here. But every city has different geographic things going on in their city. On Arlington is a much denser, big city than some of these other cities that are out there and sometimes we're limited on what a setback is like and my understanding historically as our setback has been as little as 100 feet at times then 300 feet them back to this and then 600 feet and it's just very depending on where we were at when the gas wells first started, everybody wanted a gas well in their backyard. That because that meant they were making money. And so that we wanted a smaller setback, and then they became concerned about the emissions and stuff like that. So I think we can certainly hear what staff has to say and educate us about it. I just wanna make sure that we don't get into a situation where we're comparing apples to oranges on just comparing what other cities are doing. Yep. Anybody else? Okay, well we'll see everybody downstairs at 6.30 this afternoon session is adjourned. you you you For things that will expire before your next kit check. This is a lot of information. Where do I begin? You can build your emergency kit over time. Start with your weekly grocery store trip. Buy one or two items to fill your kit. A gown of water or a can of food will build quickly over time and be low impact on your weekly budget. Shop around for the other non-food items. You may find that you already have several of the items on the list. That's all for this edition of Ask Arlington. Please visit ArlingtonTX.gov slash preparedness for more information. Welcome back. I'm Andrew Cheneurian with My Arlington TV and it is hot outside. So we're here at La Tapatilla, cooling off with some summer treats. Just a vision that I had a few years ago. Miguel Sanchez opened here in 2016, offering sweet and savory snacks like Agua Fresca in many fruity flavors as well as ice cream and hot Cheetos and cheese after growing up in the food industry. My parents have a restaurant here in Arlington the past 15 years. I was busing tables at, you know, in fifth grade. It was my parent. So that was a little. Now he has all of this, including a busy drive-through. And employees like Jean Amador helping serve customers quickly. You brought me a gift? This is Frasascon grandma with any toppings you want, like coconuts and granola, or Habada Chamengo, with a tamalyn candy straw. After all, the chopping and the juicing, which this machine can take anything. They go through a lot of fruit. I would say a good 30, 40 pounds, maybe more. Just depends on the day. This strawberry or chata made up of milk, cream and of course strawberries is one reason why. There's also fruit cups and chicken bites with fries. Customers love it, they keep coming back, that's what honestly matters. And what's giving him the opportunity to start planning on a third location. So I have your truck going up for you, thank you. It took a feeling. Billion, right here in Arla, here in