Open Space Advisory Board Meeting. Darn it. How are you? Sound good? I'm fine. For you if you need to speak to them. Sorry. Thanks, everyone. There you go now, recording. Okay. That's a good start. Do I have to start over? Please. Okay. Thank you. Oh, gosh. This is Bruce Meade. The time is 5 p.m. and I'd like to call the order that may 8th, 2025, meeting of the Parks, Rec, and Open Space Advisory Board meeting, being held at this City Council chambers and confirm that a quorum is present. Regular members present include Luanne Mallnery, Leslie Warren, Muhammad Alhindi, Monica Eskimia, David Clark, and not Todd Burton yet. Alternative members include Todd Royle and Oceola Henderson. We also welcome our liaison's Councilman Patrick Cludier, MCDC Joy Booth and Visit McKenney Keith Gull. Not our liaison and Councilman Justin Beller and thank you MCDC for being here as well. A reminder for alternatives on the board if you're not voting you can only talk during public comments. Regarding public comments do we have anyone to speak on items on the agenda from the public? Seeing none we will move to consent items item number 25-20702. minutes of the parks, rec, and open space advisory board meeting of April 10th, 2025. Do we have a motion to approve this item? Leslie Warren makes motion. Do we have a second? Aye. Second. Uh, Muhammad Al-Hindi seconds. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion passes. We'll now move to regular agenda item item number 25-2703. Consider discuss act under recommendation to city council authorizing the applications and acceptance if awarded of a common county parks and open space project funding assistance program for relic Creek trail at Stacey Road. Jenny Baker will be presenting. Jenny Baker parks planning and development manager. With this item, we are requesting a funding assistance from Cullen County through their 2025 grant assistance or grant cycle. That application is due in July. And so we are requesting your approval, your recommendation to go to City Council for us to officially submit this grant. We don't have numbers worked up yet but really this is just permission to apply for the grant. And when we go through our regular presentation there'll be a graphic in there that'll kind of give you a little bit more information. So do we have a motion to approve just applying for the grant at this point? That is correct. Okay, do we have a motion to approve this item? I'll make a motion to approve the item. A David Clark makes a motion. Do we have a second? Leslie Warren seconds. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. Motion passes. Thank you Jenny. Item number 25-2704. Consider discuss act on a recommendation to city council on a resolution authorizing the city manager to execute a construction contract for construction of Gabe Nezbit Park and APEC center improvements. Dakota Crior will be presenting. Thank you. Thank you. Dakota Crior, Parks Construction Planner. We'll be requesting recommendation for Council to approve a construction contract for the Gabe Nesbitt practice field and APEC's open area space. The project includes improving the practice field area that you can see in the graphic shown south of APEX parking lot. On the east side of APEX, we kind of have a blown up site plan of that area as well. We're gonna be fencing off that area, grading it, sodding and adding some lighting and sidewalks. And then as well, as part of that project as well, we'll also be installing two monument signs, one at Eldrata and one at Alma. Go on the next slide here. Okay, we did receive six bids for the construction of this project. The bidders were evaluated on three different criteria, offers narrative approach to construction, contractors of contractor qualifications and the proposal price, sea green scoping, score at the most points through the criteria. And so we are asking for the recommendation to approve a construction contract with sea green scoping LP in the amount of $1,100,000 and $149, 24 cents and not to exceed $1,170,000. Upon approval, a construction should begin this summer. Yes sir. Do we have any questions? Do we have any questions for decoded before we move to approve? No questions? we have a move to approve motion to approve this item When Malinary makes a motion do we have a second? Monica's coming eye second. I'm not a guest me a second is the motion all in favor say aye I'll post motion passes Do we have anyone to speak on items not listed? Thank you Dakota. Do we have anyone to speak on identity items not listed on the agenda? This could be the fastest parts. Correct. Open space for me. Seeing none do we have a motion to adjourn at 5.07 pm. I'll make a motion to adjourn. Lesley Warren makes a motion. Do we have a second? I was second. Monica, that's coming in. Monica, that's coming in. It makes a second. All in favor spaces, advisory board. We are here today. It is 5.08. We are at City Hall Chambers for 01 East Virginia Street, McKinney, Texas, 7.5.069. I want to recognize one of our regular board members, Chris Wilkes, is not here and we do have our alternate Marcus Lloyd here today. So. Do you? So start over again, basically. Okay. The time is 5.09 PM and I would like to call the order that May 8, 2025 special meeting at Parks Rack and Open Space Advisory Board being held at the City Council Chambers and confirm that a quorum is present. Welcome to the annual joint meeting of the MCDC and Parks Rack and Open Space Advisory Board. Do we have anyone to speak on public agenda items? Seeing none, we'll move to join agenda item item 25, 27, 05. Oh, that's you guys. MCDC. We will go for 25. 27, 05, update on the McKinney MCDC fiscal year 24 approved projects and MCDCs, strategic priorities presented by our board, President Sandy Schneibel. Afternoon, Sandy Schneibel, MCDC. I just have a handful of slides to go through and wanted to cover just basic information about CDC in terms of vision mission and how we go about our business and then provide a quick overview of the eligible projects we can fund the board strategic priorities and then I've got summary of how the funds were expanded, our grant funds were expanded in FY24, the year most recently ended. So you can see on the slide, the vision of MCDC is to be a driving force for a premier quality of life in McKinney. And I think that the mission, to me, one of the most important things about the mission that you see there is our commitment to working collaboratively and in partnership with others to advance quality of life and McKinney. So that could mean city of McKinney, city departments, nonprofits, businesses and other city entities such as Main Street and Visit McKinney. And so those relationships and partnerships are very important to our work and the priorities that have been established. And then the guiding principles really speak to our commitment with respect to how we go about doing our business, ethically displaying responsible stewardship of taxpayer funds, honoring the past but looking forward to the future and the making strategic and transparent decisions to serve the McKinney community. The MCDC, McKinney Community Development Corporation is a type B, Economic Development Corporation under Texas Statutes. The EDC was created in 1993, the vision behind that was really to advance more traditional types of economic development. So headquarters relocation, job creation, workforce training. Because of the early success, McKinney citizens saw an opportunity to create a second, type, type B, a second economic development corporation, the type B that has a broadened focus and can support quality of life projects and amenities in addition to more traditional economic development. So we're really fortunate in McKinney to have both because we're able to have a greater impact across the community. EDC focused on more job-related activities and CDC for the most part on parks, high combined trails, entertainment, destination projects and those types of things. We do work together frequently with EDC and our other city partners. But this is list. When you talk about quality of life, it means a lot of different things to different people. This list specifies what we can do. So things such as supporting recreational community facilities, athletic fields, sports facilities, First in convention, parks and open space improvements, and then we can also support airport and mass transit. The board identified strategic priorities for our project funding. You'll see the statement at the top of the list of priorities, again, emphasizing the importance of working collaboratively. These, the six priorities are not in any kind of priority order, but they include affordable housing, mixed use, multi-use entertainment projects, the historic cultural district in Eastside Development, parks and open space, and development of trails and natural areas and then a community gathering facility or nonprofit hub. And then this is just a recap of the fiscal year 24 grant funding that the MCDC Board approved. And you'll see that parks and recreation, 6.5 million went to support parks projects. 5.5 million was for town lake and the Greens Park and Trail. Another million was approved for the practice field at Gabe Nesbitt and Signage at Gabe Nesbitt. What that does not reflect is another 1.7 that CDC funds it on annual basis debt service on APEX facility. Collabative projects also at about 6.5 million and that included airport life pass systems. Their new headquarters is being constructed on Bloomdale and the neighborhood of the community resource center and then roadway infrastructure fund which is used to support construction and maintenance of roadways that lead to economic and business development in McKinney. With respect to mixed use projects and entertainment projects, about 3.5 million was funded in grants. Historic cultural district in east side, just under a million that included Chestnut Water Tank, Grant Cotton Mill, projects at the Cotton Mill and Flower Mill, Main Street, received a grant and then also retail infrastructure grants. And then affordable housing. Last year it was re-awarded 500,000 in that category, and it was for multi-family development, Sphinx development corporation is constructing to address, providing housing to families that are at 60% or lower area media income for the Collin County jurisdiction. And with that, that covers my slides. I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Any questions from the Parks Advisory Board. Thank you. Well now I move to item 25-2706. Consider discussed parks project updates and priorities for funding Director Amy Kincaid will be presenting. Good evening, Park Ward and MCDC, Amy Kincaid Director Parks and Rec. This is always one of my favorite meetings of the year to highlight not only what we've accomplished, but where we're heading in the future. Joining me throughout the presentation all have the Parks Development. They're the team that puts all of these projects together, so just want you to know who's behind all of these projects as well. A quick overview. I will talk through the completed projects, projects for FY 25, going into FY 26, some funding highlights and then looking ahead and really getting some input on priorities and where we go from here. So to highlight some of the completed projects, we have Aviator Park playground replacement. I know we've talked about this. This came online around spring break. but this is a new playground. The old one was donated, which is a program that we've done for quite some time and again we'll continue to support this. But it again it's been completed and opened to public. Next up is Horizon Park playground. As you see, the old one on the bottom right, and then the bright new shiny on the open up spring break as well. It's open to the public, and again, the old was donated to an underprivileged country, so we don't know exactly where it wound up up but we'll make sure to keep you posted on that. Winterford Park, the pavilion has been repainting it. The fencing has been replaced. That has been needed to take place for some time now. And soon we will be resurfacing the basketball court. So you can see some before and after just the significant improvements that have been happening in Winiford Park. EA RANDAL's Park, again this was also opened around spring break. This is completed. However, we are going back to resurface the basketball court in the near future, so that will be completed. But this is a great addition to our park system. The total project cost was 3.5 million on this. Wilson Creek Greens Travel. Of course, this is the connection to sticks over to Greens or Wilson Creek. This has been completed and you can drive by there at any time and see a lot of people using that court or the trail. I will make note in the bottom left hand corner you'll see the, it's my McKinney, those are, these are all the projects the MCDC has supported and funded in some sort. McKinney Soccer Complex Phase 1 is completed and we recently held the inaugural International Girls Cup, which was a huge success and look forward to having that come back next year. But this is one of the best facilities, and I can't wait for phase two because this will be one of the best in the DFW area, just a overall look at those new fields. And then 75 in Virginia, this is some of the landscaping that we have completed just in the projects in the corridor. This is the ranking sheet that we prioritize our projects. We are touching or have touched everything on this list, except for a water park. That is the only thing that is lacking. We will be looking at doing a new park master plan, and probably starting that process in the spring, since all of these items have been accomplished. And with that, I will turn it on over to Ms. Ginny Baker. Hey, again, Ginny Baker, Parks Planning and Development Manager. Just continuing on some of the good news or that the good information that Amy just shared on on completed projects We always like to kind of take a look back and reflect on what we've done Not just a previous year, but you know the recent years and we went back and took a look and we realized that we have completed playground and park renovations 17 of those that have been partially or fully renovated since 2018. In addition to those 17 projects, we've installed 10 new playgrounds either as standalone playgrounds or part of new construction. So that brings a total of 27 new playgrounds into our park system since 2018. So we're really excited about that. You know, playgrounds are big wins and are always extremely well received. And our goal again, we've stated this before, but our goal is to have no playground equipment older than 15 years. So once we complete the six that we currently have identified for replacement through projects, we'll have three more to add, and then we are good to go until 2029 where we'll start the next cycle. And they're just talking a little bit about some of our different funding sources. This is kind of review for most of us but just it's important to want to kind of just give us all a little bit of a refresher. Parkland dedication and park development fees as a reminder, we have a new Parkland dedication ordinance. We keep referring to it as new, but it's been in place since 2022. There are seven Parkland zones. There were previously four, now there are seven. Again, fees must be taken. Fees must be spent in the same zone that they are taken in And our challenge with this is that some zones receive little to no money. Some zones are heavy on development, others are not. So this is where we have to kind of do a balancing act. And just for reference, we've taken in about 1.5 million in Parkland dedication and Park Development fees since December of last year. Bonds are another significant funding source. We've approved referendum in 2000 or 2024 for 106 million. As a reminder, we've got 25 million designated for town lake. We've got 2.5 of that that will be issued this June. 20 million is appropriated into Gave Nezbit Softball. These are already issued and then we have a million dollars in pickable and 60 million for a new multi-generational recreation center that has not been issued either. And then just a little note about bonds. It's kind of a, you know, we work with our CFO and our CIP leadership team, and of course, the city manager in determining, you know, when bonds are gonna be sold and what projects are kind of next in line. So, you know, it's based upon our bonding capacity, and then of course, along with, you know, what other CIP projects through the various other departments are kind of up in line. So it's kind of a collaborative decision on when our bonds are sold and when they're allocated. projects through the various other departments are kind of up and line. So it's a, you know, it's a kind of a collaborative decision on when when our bonds are sold and when they're allocated into projects. Any questions on those? Of course our great partners at CDC, you know, we're at the end of our 55 million. Since 2014, you know, we've got a minimum, at least a minimum, a 5.5 allocated each year to our various park projects. And we took a look back and we realized that through this partnership, we have had over 60 projects have been completed or in the process of being completed through this partnership with you all and that is touched at least 36 parks which is more than three quarters of the parks within our system so we appreciate what all you all do for us and then of course we've got grants Colin County open space more to come there and then Texas Parks and Wildlife. And Jill put a little word cloud together. So this is the word cloud showing all of the parks that have been touched by CDC money. So she says thank you park board and thank you CDC. So that's Jill's handiwork. One of the things that we know, we've got a vast system. It's kind of hard to sometimes realize where everything is. So, you'll put this map together. It's a map of the city. The projects that are yellow and green, those are all city and McKinney parkland. The ones in green are just existing parks that we not, I guess, for lack of a better way of saying it, we're not touching those right now. The ones in yellow are active current projects. So, a little hard to read from this view, but we've also made, she also put out a copy for everybody so that as we're going along through the presentation, if you kind of wonder where it is, we're happy to pause and explain that in more detail, but that's what this map is for. And then I'm gonna turn it over to Dakota and Jill here. Just a second. And the next few slides, they're gonna kind of talk about some projects that we think may be good qualifiers for the next grant cycle request. And they're gonna walk walk through those and I will turn it over to Jenny. May I? Madam Chair. So, okay to ask a question. Yes, you can ask. Just before you go, Jenny, back to the 1.5 million in the parkland ordinance receipts. So to speak, what has that been allocated for or has it already been used? It has not been allocated yet. That will be allocated through the CIP budget process. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. I have a question. Sure. And I don't expect you to have the answer now, but for future information, can we know since 2014 how much over the five and a half million a year CDC has dedicated two parts? How much over the? Yeah. Like over the 55 million? Yes. Over over the five and a half million dollars a year we do typically do much more than that. Sure. You mean like special budget requests or? Additional requests from parks that we fund. Yeah. And Cindy has it here but she can provide that to the rest of the board after this. My point is only that there is, I'm looking at it here other than FY 15. It includes that service, okay? So there is not a single year. In fact, I'm looking at it, it doesn't seem like there's a year where it's less than 150%. Give or take rough math that we haven't done significantly more than the five and a half million. I just think that's an important point as we go forward and look at future allocations that council made. Certainly. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And when I put a minimum of 5.5, that was in reference to that, but I didn't know, apparently, at the time of putting this together, I didn't have those numbers, but yes, you're absolutely right. It is more than 5.5. Thank you. And did you have a couple questions for you? The soccer fields, how, after all this rain we had, How do they fare with all the rain? They hold it well. Craig soccer. They've done really well. Yep, we've had issues and on Marty would know more, but he's shaking his head now. So yeah, we haven't heard of any problems. They drain really well. They drain as they're supposed to and these ability is just right there. And then you guys talk about a lot of these parks that we've opened up and re-open. Is there any way we can put out better press or to a video or something that's and head this park is getting ready open in a week to try to get the community out there just so they know these parks have been refurbished. These parks get ready to open to a video that way we can just make a bigger deal out of these parks opening up. Yes, you're absolutely right. And we've been talking about that and we've been working with with Kara Harding as our new special events supervisor to get some some things scheduled especially for the ones that are going to be completed like for example the Green's Neighborhood Park that will be opening this summer. We're already in works to get a good you know grand opening and we'll get the word out and some kind of a video and we've been working with communications and marketing on that as well. And we recognize we need to do a better job of basically selling the great things that we do. Awesome thank you. I do have a question and I'm sorry. As our park systems are growing is there ways that as we're planning events and of course for the capacity that the parks can have that we're able to rotate some events or community events to be able to show the community because some people don't even know have been the urin park. You know it's just something if you don't know about it if something's not planned out there. So I just think if there are opportunities that the parks and rent can look at some some of the events that we may host for the city that the capacity can hold you know for the event to maybe move it around the city to just to have people to even go to different parts of the city that they may not typically go. So as we're talking about some of the parks that are coming online, July is National Parks and Rights Month. So really highlighting that. Some of the thoughts that I'm working with a new supervisor on Isdion Popup events and all of the different parks that people might not know, I really showcasing the neighborhood parks and everything. So the kids can come and the families can get there. So that is a big push that we're trying to do is do more pop-up events, more activations in those parks that don't see the, you know, the bigger, the fourth of July's and love mechanic. So that is one of the things that's just educating and telling the story of everything that we have to offer a mechanic. Thank you. Sorry. And with that we'll roll into some of our projects that we've identified funding needs for. The first one being Irwin Park. This project's in design currently. We expected to bid out for construction this fall. The estimated cost right now is $10.3 million. So the need for that one is about 3 million. Just as a refresher, we're going to be replacing all of the restrooms and pavilions with this project, installing new concrete parking lots at all of those locations. We'll have a nice lookout feature. I can get this. Go to the next one here. So this is a rendering of one of the restroom buildings, the larger one. That'll be near the camp sites and you'll have showers as well for the campers. And then the lookout tower. So here's a rendering of that lookout tower that will be going in the kind of north-western quadrant of the park there. Also with this project there's going to be a maintenance building and we're in a widen and enhance the park entry. So it's going to be a really an overhaul of the entire park. The next project that we've identified funding needs on is the Outrush Off Connector Road project. This project is estimated to cost about $3.3 million with a need at $2 million currently. This is going to be connecting Al Roushaw phases one and two and then adding a new parking lot kind of in between those phases. Unless you guys have any questions about Irwin or Al Roushaw, I will hand it over to Jill Nont. On the urban park you say you're shy $3 million. Yes sir. Is that excluding the 5.5 that we've already given you guys to go that project? And is that including the security system that you guys said that the parks and rec was a take on that for? Is that that three million that none the ten point three million dollars does not include the security the quote that we got for that which will be a separate contract after we complete that project I believe it was about a hundred and forty million dollars yeah sorry hundred and forty thousand dollars say this is good now yeah is a really nice security system. So why are we waiting on that after the park's already completed? Because to me, if you have this beautiful park already finished and then you're going to wait to put the security system in, then you're taking the chance of bad things happening in between that. Sure. Yeah. And I think we'll be working on that towards the end of that project. We worked with the design team and the security team to ensure that all the proper infrastructure is there for the security so they can seamlessly be installed as soon as the parks are ready for it. Thank you. What's your intended funding location for the $5 million between these two parks. In needed funds, where do you intend to get that money from? We had to punt that question to Jimmy. So sorry, we make just- $3 million on Irwin, $2 million on Al Rushush off in needed funds. Where do you expect to meet that gap? Yeah, it'll be a combination of hopefully CDC funding, Parkland Education funds. You know, we do have some, as I said, we've got 1.5 million, their zone dependent. And then of course, we do anticipate additional Parkland education monies coming in throughout the year. We just can't project exactly when we're gonna receive them, but we do bank heavily on receiving them. And so those are often kind of backfilled. We use those to backfill as we can. And then in some cases, if there's a little shortage, we can use bond money as well. Okay. So for FY25, which we're in currently, our 5.5 million dedication was used exclusively on urban parts. Correct. Correct. And the council direction for 5 25. Sec correct? We've already expended it all. Yeah, okay. I understand that, but FY 26, the amount for FY 26 and forward has not been determined. That's correct. Yeah. Right. And I assume right now you're in your FY 26 budget making process and are you moving forward with five and a half million dollar number are you moving forward with a different number and is the five million dollars between those two parks any portion of that going to be included in next year's allocation request. And when are we going to, I guess, iterate, or is that what this meeting is intended for today for us to provide thoughts and feelings on the next five and a half or whatever amount that is going for? I think I can't tell Cindy's wanting to answer that or not, but I think at least from our first perspective, I think that that is something that we would love to get some feedback on in it between the two boards. We're kind of laying out what our needs are and there's a couple of projects still left to touch on that has funding gaps. So I, you know, we'll of course take whatever we can get. But I think that is a conversation we'd like to have is what you kind of consider would be an appropriate request based upon our project needs. Like I just wanted to add, I think that as Amy, Jenny, Jill and I talked prior to this meeting, I think the goal is to get some feedback from the CDC Board and the Parks Advisory Board on what the priorities are from the two groups and then use that information to develop their budget which will be presented to the CDC Board. And, Jim. That's correct. I just would like to add, so I moved forward to kind of what we've highlighted. I'm in the conversation that we had with Jenny and the team. I was identifying because I know that there's always been some frustration on the funding when it when we get it when it's spent and telling that story better. So what we our approach was a little different as we were preparing was identifying what projects are ready to go to design slash construction. So this slide shows and highlighted the missing gaps of funding, but also where we're ready to move forward. Just to highlight, we have Cottonwood Creek Trial. We have design money in there, again, we're in holding pattern until we get the Colin County grant. But as soon as that happens, we'll be ready to go after a land acquisition and move forward on that. So hopefully this is just a snapshot of what we're, you know, our shortfalls for next this coming fiscal year. and just what we're ready to move forward on versus being in that holding pattern we might not need it quite yet. But just where the grant request comes in. So I just want to highlight this slide. I'm for a shortfall of 8 million. I'm next fiscal year. And again, we can talk about priorities. And as we will finish going through the slides and then just talk about priorities of where the focus, where you and part the pro's board wants to really focus in the next year. Go ahead, you have a question, Joel. Thank you. Yes, Amy, I'm sorry. I think two questions. Please forgive me that I don't recall. But when the original presentation was made to us about the renovations at Irwin. At that time was it known that there would be a shortfall or is this new information? This is new and I'll let Dakota because I know that the early opinion of probable costs that we received were much lower, more than the six to seven million dollar range. Just given that we are moving away from the septic systems that are that the restrooms are currently on and installing sewer throughout the property that really jumped the cost of quite a bit but it's going to be you know great improvement for the future. With the development in that area we were able to tap into the the new sewer systems that are being installed and those developments it. So we're taking advantage of that. And so that did increase the cost by quite a bit. Okay. And of the total expense for the Irwin renovation, what portion is the tower? I believe the tower is probably, I want to say it's about $200,000. Plus the 160, or I think you said 140 something like that for the security. Security and the security will be throughout the entire park. That's setting up cameras and they call them gateways. Basically they receive cellular signal for the cameras to operate. They're remotely operated. And then there's a software system that's kind of powered by AI that can identify, you know, if a car enters the park that has a license plate that, you know, there's maybe a warrant out or something, you know, or someone who's not supposed to be there is in the park. You can identify those kinds of things. So it's a pretty cool system, and I believe that $140,000 covers 10 years span with the software included. And I believe that's kind of a renting the cameras and gateways for 10 years or so. Okay. Oh, and I did want to mention also additionally we did recently issue a PO for all of the structures at our one, which was about $2 million for all of the restroom buildings, the buildings, the look out, the maintenance building as well. So that is in convert. We have that PO and we're currently getting the drawings from that, the building contractor to put in the plans for construction. Yes, and the costings associated with that. The benefit, there were several benefits to getting a PO for the buildings at this stage rather than waiting until construction. We ensured that we got the buildings that we truly wanted instead of receiving approved equals. We were able to purchase it through the Bible or purchasing cooperative, which saved about 9% on all of the buildings. So I mean, 9% of $290. Pretty good chunk, and then we also avoid contractor markups on the buildings themselves. So probably $400,000 to $500,000 in savings. So to cut it just to go back on urban parks and set such a widely very used park, we're going to get the communication out well in advance that the park is going to be to the public know that don't come out here because of park. Yes we're discussing that now and trying to make those plans for you know trying to coordinate when we shut down the camping reservation system and like you said put now some sort of media to let the public know that it's going to close for like a chunk of time. Dakota Dave Clark, part of the improvements are going to include the improved park sign at the entrance as well as some way finding to the park. It's a little difficult to find now for John Q public unless you're a doorPA member or a frequent flyer there like I am. It's a little tough to find. It's tough to weigh at the north side of the city and was hoping that everybody knows I'm a big fan of wayfinding signage. So I'm going to keep beating that drum for as long as I can. Yes, yeah, and I don't have the rendering I apologize, but we will be enhancing that the park entry. We're in a widened that. So there's a right and left turn exit lane coming out of the park. It'll be concrete up to a certain point going back to that Chips Hill Road. But it'll be a, you know, it'll make a statement when you're coming down, I think it was County Road 1006 there. I'm sure we can work on on some way fine new signage of a blue and Dale to draw attention to that Thank you In the addition, you have questions Yes, sorry just so that I'm understanding the sequencing of events so this is a list of the projects already planned for that have shortfalls, but you're about to embark on your budgeting for other things. So I guess could the eight million be reduced by some savings you find when you scrub your budget as you're planning for next fiscal year? Sure. Yeah, so, you know, there's always, I would say, probably 90% of our projects, we put it out to bid, especially if the numbers are tight. We bid them out without at alternates, meaning that, you know, depending on how the numbers shake out, we could cut certain things and we could absolutely take a look at that. You know it like for example the Al-Reshaw Road connection we could possibly look at eliminating the parking lot but still building the road. So we you know we get creative when we need to you know ideally you build everything it's in the package but you can't always do that so you know would look at that, and then of course, you know, supplementing with additional funding from other funding sources. Any additional questions? Are you in CDC? Okay. Jilliann, just planning manager. And as you know, old settlers is also under design and we've been working closely with the engineering department on the alignment of Virginia Road. And I'm happy to say we finally have an exact alignment now. So we have started moving forward again on these plans and the latest cost estimate that we have is for $14 million, which has about a $3.5 million shortage on what we have. And we expect to be able to bid this come November of this year. So this would be another one that we would, we're going to have to either be creative do bid alternates Come up with more money somewhere And trails is also always a high priority so these are the two trails that Jenny spoke to earlier where we went to Colin County For grant We are expected to hear from them soon as to whether we get that so we will have design money to go ahead and start these. These will need money but we're not expecting them this year. This would be 2627. And then another trail is one. This is the one that Jenny spoke to earlier for the grant this year for Colin County. This is Raleck Creek and on both North and South and the Rallette Creek, we are looking at doing an undergrade crossings for the trails. And then there would be upgrades to the actual play structure at Rallette Creek. And this is another one that we would probably looking for funding in 26, 27. I don't want to go back to this one, Amy, or we're going to pass this since we've already spoke to that. Is there any other questions on the trails or old sellers? Any questions? I got a question. Go ahead. I guess I'm still trying to figure out, too. I think each one of these slides I keep saying there's a deficit, a pretty sizable one right here there. And yet we're talking about stuff in the future in the next year. Is there a reason why you have to make the adjustments to the things in 26 without dealing with these deficits? That's first question. And I know that you've mentioned, I think, Jenny, you're like, hey, there's funding sources. Maybe I'm curious about what those other alternate funding sources are that can make up the gaps or I'm not maybe I'm just I'm just not catching it. I'm trying to figure out why each one of these have such as a decent amount of shortage why we're talking about budget for next year without dealing with this. I think they are talking about budget for next year. I think they're targeting us and a minimum, I were five and a half million as the funding source for these shortfalls. Which is always, five and a half million is always the, it's been the for the last several years, right? It has been and they always come in the meeting like this to indicate what they intend to use that five.5 million for. Right. And so I don't want to speak for parks, but I think that's the intent here showing the shortages that that's what they would like to use our 5.5 million at a minimum and whatever additional amount either through agreement or by direction of council, that becomes next year I think that their intent is that they'd like to use our money for those purposes which goes back to when you were saying hey it looks like we've given 150% more each year than this 5.5 Right, so that's where that's coming. Okay. Let's catch me up. Thank you And with with that I'll go ahead and turn this over to current projects. Hi everyone, I'm April Butler. I'm a Parks construction planner. So I'm going to talk to you a little bit about our current projects and give you some updates on how we're spending your money and how expensive these projects are. So as Amy touched on, we've actually completed the green Straal Phase 1. That's already complete and open. We're really excited about this project in particular because it provides a continuous connection to town lake. So through the green's property. Phase 2 is already in design and it's going to pick up where we leave off. Just south of that blue line and it'll connect all the way down to steer roads. So that should be hopefully wrapped up the design of that by this fall and ready for bidding. And please feel free to jump in with any questions if you have them. All right, so our Greens Neighborhood Park, despite the rain, we've had 14 rain days this past month. We're still plugging along on this one, actually on schedule, so we're still expecting to open it this summer. So if you guys get a chance drive by the playgrounds already in, we've got the retaining wall already in. So like I said, it's moving along well. All right, so Town Lake, I know everybody's excited and interested in this one. If you guys have seen the master plan redesign is amazing. And it's a $34 million project. Obviously, we're designing this in different phases so that we can get to it a little bit quicker. Several of these are already in design starting with actually this one's in construction. So we've been in construction now for two months on the light walk. And this again is an interactive light walk. It's the only permanent installation of this kind in the Dallas area. So we're really excited to bring this. And again, we've got big plans for promotion on this because it's just really unique and very cool. So we're hoping this was a six month timeline. We're hoping you get this open in September, just in time for Halloween. So I know Amy and her special events team are very excited about this one. And if you guys will remember last year, unfortunately, we had some vandalism that led to a fire at our restroom facility at Grady Little John. So when we got out there looking at what it was gonna take to rebuild that and redesign it, we noticed that there was a lot of work that needed to be done there. So the concrete was just in horrible conditions, cracked and failing. So we've actually redesigned that to include the restroom facility, which is a concession building as well. And redoing and replacing all of the concrete, including the retaining walls. So you have some photos to share. So adding spectator shade over this seating there which has been requested multiple multiple requests have come in for that. So we know it was a priority. So we've got yes we're wrapping this up quickly we're at 90 95% CD set right now about to go in review with the city. So we hopefully will bid this out in August. That's a plan. All right. And then the final project that we have in design right now is the townmark, town like I'm sorry, play zone and dock park. So a $4.5 million project. If you'll remember, this is going to relocate the horseshoe pits and the sand volleyball from town like proper over to this area so that when we read you's on that everybody will already be taken care of and relocated. Also a fantastic dog park that is again a very requested item by our residents. So we've got this as well on the timeline for being bidded and out for construction in August. See, all right I think that wraps up mine. I I'm gonna turn this back to Jill. Let's see anticipated opening of the dog park. So it would be a year timeline for construction. So next summer. August 22. You mentioned the promotion, right, for the light walk. What are the means of promotion? I know we've heard about it a couple of times. Hey, how do we get it out? How do we get it out? What are the ways in which you do actually promote and how do we do? So we've got newsletters that come out through email. We also have a Facebook social media campaign. I know that they use not only Facebook but Instagram. I think we may be on a couple of different platforms in addition to that. And then I know that they use not only Facebook but Instagram. I think we may be on a couple of different platforms in addition to that. And then I know that the community impact, we advertise through that as well. But that's something that we've been talking about. You know, how can we get a little bit better at that and getting the word out. And I mean, that project in particular, I think, is going to be a regional draw. And so we're really putting some fun into it. We are going to reach out to the news channels. I mean, our sisters, cities on the news all the time for different things they're doing and we are just never on it. I mean, as much as Brittany on Channel 5 comes that stuff from the kidney, I think it would be a great thing we can reach out to the news channels and get some news coverage. So all of our marketing that we push out, we use our communication marketing team. I'm so cocoa and her team. I Denise usually sends out press releases and they're very active and they do all of our contacts and pushes all of our content out. So we do work with them very closely on that. Okay, the other thing we've got is Kitty Sock Complex Phase 2 and it should begin construction as soon as the rain stops. We have contracts going. This is where they will be replacing. We will be doing synthetic fields and normal, I mean, in regular grass fields. And then they'll have a playground area, splash pad area, type area with promenade. It'll be really nice. And this will take about a year construction and it's a $30 million project. And this is the rec center at Town Lake. It is currently under construction and it's scheduled to be completed in July, early July. So we're moving along. We're hoping to have it open by the time we have fourth of July over there. Is there any questions? Any questions? On the side. So, in talking about broadcasting things, I'm thinking about like captive audiences, right? So, when I go to Apex, which is as often as I would like, you're on the bicycle and you're seeing the screens, but they're always static flyers, if you will, of what's happening at Apex, but they could be video reels of all of the parks or like at the ball fields. If there was some kind of screen before they entered the restrooms or at the concession stands that had like rolling images or some videos of what is available. You've got all the parents there with the kids. I mean, there's some creative ways to build that in. People who are at the trolley, I don't know if we have any kind of like monitor in the trolley in downtown McKinney, but starting to think about like ways to promote all of these investments that we're making. So I don't know if you've been to old settlers, but it has a key ask in the front, work, it does that or it has the advertisements. This right center will have the same thing. I guess I forgot I got more on here. So Wot the building. This is the building. This is the building. This is the building. This is the building. This is the building. This is the building. This is the building. This is the building. They expect to be moving in that in July. So we plan to bid our project out in August and start construction of this project. And this is fully funded. It's 2.8 million. And how was this one funded? This was CDC money. It's one of the reappropriations. Yeah, it's one of the reappropriation. Yeah, reappropriation. Thank you. At Gabe Nezbit, we have the softball fourplex that was designed originally in 2022. Those plans have been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years so the plans are just currently being updated. And we're getting that ready to hopefully bid out this summer for construction. the The adjacent to the library there. Yes, sir. Also in gaveness, but as mentioned earlier, we have the practice field and monument signage and APEC's open area improvements that have recently been bid out. So, in general, we'll come in soon early this summer. That project is funded by a million dollars from the CDC and $200,000 from Parkland Education Funds. And with that, we'll hand it over to G. Okay, we're hitting you with a lot of projects, so thank you for your patience. So I've just got a few more I'm going to roll through. These are existing projects that are on our books that are funded primarily for design that have not yet begun, but I just want to touch on them quickly. This is what referred to as Reed Parkland and its land community in Bloomdale and this will provide a trail connection. There's an existing trail that you can kind of see running east-west through Timber Creek. It'll connect to and through our parkland where it'll connect with the existing trail that's at the hard corner of Bloomdale community where the church is. We'll probably also plan some type of a trail head, some type of maybe parking event or parking and trail head and amenity there as well. For elementary school park is the next neighborhood park that is next in line after we open up the Greens neighborhood park park. And this one is at Virginia in Independence and it's the area's the parcel identified at 7.4 acres and that is a detention area immediately to the east of it. So it really feels like it's a much larger area than what it is. And we do have a design money in place for this. Tom Allen Jr. was originally planned to just be a playground replacement. It's certainly on that list within the 15 year cycle. However, after going out there and taking a look, the Pavilion and the Pavilion structure itself is in pretty bad shape. And we got a structural engineer to take a look at it. It's going to be a little bit more work than what we anticipated. So this is going to be a full blown park renovation that we do have design funding for. Jim let better park is a playground replacement. Playground replacement, Pavilion refurbishment, and then new site furnishings. It's actually a pretty good shape, and when you look at the different colored slides, and there's some equipment that's rusted out, it definitely is in need. And then just looking ahead a bit, you know, I know we're talking and focusing a lot on our FY2526, but we still as part of the CIP process have to look ahead, you know, two and three, four years out. So just getting a few things on your radar. Honey Creek is a development for North McKinney. We will have in Park Maintenance facility up there. That is something that we will have to be funding, you know, over the next 10 years. And nature preserve is something that's identified in our Park Master Plan that we still want to identify and accomplish. We've kind of targeted the Dowell, what we call is the Dowell tract, which is east of spur 399 South of Harry, McKillip, as well as accomplish a combinator tree farm. And of course a new multi-generational recreation center that we've just kind of targeted on the what we refer to as the auto way tracked Which is immediately adjacent to Irwin Park. And that is that is the item that is included in our bond referendum for $60 million. We've talked a little bit about our regional sports park. This is what referred to, it's 230 acres. We refer to this as, you know, regional sports, the Brinkman Track, Painted Tree Track. This is at Bloomdale and Lake Forest to the West and Taylor Burke to the East. The future bypass will run adjacent on the north side. As we've indicated, we are really getting a lot of development interest. The city manager has added this to one of the goals for this fiscal year or a by the end of 2025 would like to see an RFQ go out to work with a development partner for this property. So this is something, again, just getting, make sure it's on everybody's radar that we will be discussing in more detail throughout the year. Hey Jenny, quick question on that. So the prior slide, the new rec center is just north and east of this. Is it touching? Is that property touching this parcel in red? It does. And what is the meaning? Yeah, it's just right. So if you look at the new recreation center and this pointer doesn't go that far away but at the very sort of Southwest corner of that red square is our parkland. Got it. Got it, thank you. Sorry. And the green area directly on top of that is what? You know that was taken from one of our near-map exhibits. I, we were outlining a development, and so that, you can disregard that. Okay. That's just one of our internal documents. We, we own 30 acres somewhere here. Is that in this? Is that in this map? I can identify this. I'll put something spot. But that is included in this red. In there included in this red. That's kind of what we thought. You know, we sort of slated and talked. You know, when we were purchasing the land, you know, reserve it for a retail hotel. When we were purchasing. Absolutely. That's what I meant. The city, that's fair fair the city using CDC money. That is correct. And there my point is only that they're in this red highlighted area there's 30 acres owned by CDC which could be used unlike the rest of it could be used for non-park land development and that's why we have that 30 acres reserved for adjacent opportunities. Absolutely and that would be that would be something that would be listed and included in the RFQ to identify that and then once a development partner is secured there would be some type of land planning included, which would include identifying where those 30 acres are most appropriate. And as we're talking about that, the value of that land has increased significantly since the time we purchased it. I would like to see, see, see, receive appropriate value for that land as we forward that project that is commensurate with the increased, the increase in value of that company. Anything else on this one? Any questions? Anything else? And then just a couple more neighbourhood parks. You know, we're always trying to deliver one neighbourhood park at least every year, every year to two years. After the fur elementary park that we have already identified, next up in line is going to be either Willowwood Park, which is far northeast McKinney. Jack's Burrow Park is the last remaining park within Westridge and then not long after there will be the need for the remaining neighborhood park that's in Highland likes, which is North McKinney as well. And then just, you know, we always like to keep on the, you know, keep on the books and keep it in everybody's mind. You know, we've got Grey Branch Parkland, we've got the Douglas Parkland, we've got North Park up there. We have a master plan in place. You know, that park is probably going to be reimagined at some point. Our new Multigenric Center touched on that. You know, APEX expansion. Does that ever need to occur? The remainder of town lake. Hiking bike trails always. And just some key dates. Again, you know, what we're going through is our CIP budget process. And we've got to turn in our draft budget by the end of May. June, July is when we would submit to the CDC consideration and hearing for our grant requests. July 7th is the county grant applications. That's again, that's the one that we're submitting for the Relic Creek and Stacey SPCA trail. Hopefully by then we might know something about our other two grant requests from 2024 that has not been voted on yet. And then September 2nd is adoption of budget and October 1 our fiscal year begins. I'm going to turn it over to you. So I'm going to pause and get back for a moment to have some discussion here. So we've identified just looking ahead some of the projects that are in our forefront. We have Great Branch, we have Parkland, we have the New Rec Center, we have Town Lake. So just want to have some general discussion on really what your priorities both Park Board and MCDC has, what type of projects are the most important to you? this helps us not only work on our CIP budget, but also really try to identify, because we want to bring projects to CDC that is of interest of you, but also to the park board. So just want to have a conversation. I'm going to open it up for some discussion on really, from here, what do you want to see? You know, we know we've identified some of the short fall funding and all of that, but just I want to talk project and really priorities, so I will open it up for just input. And me, I was going to make a comment, you know, seems like the last ten years every time we do surveys, number one on that list is always trails. So I don't know if it matters as much with this group, things is what our community thinks. And that's why we're all here. So I think that should be, because we give that feedback all the time, so I don't think there's any question that should be number one. And just to make note on the trails. So when I came on board, we revisited the Colin County trail system kind of the plan that was from 2014. We've knocked some dust off it. Off of it, Colin County is actually hired have to come in and reevaluate and do a trail master plan for all of Colin County. So that will help us as we drive and look at trails moving forward. I'm knowing that that is a huge priority. And not only within our city, but also connecting to our surrounding city. So that definitely is a huge focus point on calling county in general. This is just my opinion. I'm not speaking for this. So to me, a priority I would think around town like just because of the vicinity, the accessibility, it is a destination. the way the design is planned, and it is, you know, the capacity outside up, you know, you got Gabe Nesb and you do have Erwin Park, but again, even with Erwin Park, I just priority, but I'd like to make sure like Townlake, Gabe Nbit are really definitely, you know To be able to see if there was fruition in the parks and trails connections And so with I'll start if any of my board members want to give some recommendation Amy on town lake. It says part how much is not fun on town lake? So the phase three, so we've identified funding for phase one and two if you will, the light walk and the dog park. The third part of that is not funded. How much is that? We don't. I want to say the overall OPC for the master plan is about 40-ish and then we receive 25 million in the bond. But we have of that we will be getting 2.5 million this year. So we don't have any more being allocated to us through the bond money until probably a couple years out. But then there, this slide, as you mentioned here, this is for, I guess, if you will, a southern half. So there's probably about, I would say, by the time we build it and with construction cross-increasing, it's probably about a $20 million is to inflate it in the end. It's entirety. They don't gray branch. Is that including connecting end to 380? This is in addition. Okay. So more unique projects like town lake. One of the things that I keep on hearing from people on CDC is the importance of trying to get the message out of all of these projects that are happening and creating something that is newsworthy, which is what we're doing at Town Lake. me continuing, continuing that momentum in one facility, in one area like Town Lake, would actually be beneficial when it comes to media. And since we're one of the largest DMA markets in the country, it is going to be hard for us to get meat for that. And so there are projects like this that are unique to not only McKinney, but unique to North Texas that would draw that attention. I would say for me it would be something like that would be a priority. I agree with that. I'd like to see these big projects finished before taking new ones on. I think it gave Nesbitt one thing I'm not seeing is an improvement to the restroom facilities. There's constant flooding. The doors are locked and don't let you out. They are very old and I don't think that they are on par with the proceed of that facility. So I would like to see that Gabe Nezbit as a whole improved not just the addition of fields and signs but the existing infrastructure It's per step In general, I don't have a problem with your Request if that's what they are for the shortfalls for projects jewelry working on in one thing I have advocated for for years going back to when Mike was here is on our trails to have a tool, whether it is AI now or just an internet-based tool to help people more easily access the trails, to be able to simply and easily understand where the trails go, where they connect to, how I can plan a trip on those trails. And I think that's a relatively low lift that we've never addressed for something probably like a quarter million dollars. We could develop a really great, perhaps AI-based tool to help folks utilize our trails better. As I try to do that, I find the website very complicated, and it's really hard to pull pieces of trails together and understand how everything works together. And so I would like to see some investment in helping folks access and utilize our trails better. I agree with Leslie that we should be listening to the community and I think the community consistently says that trails are a high priority and doing the things physically on them is great. But we don't know how to use them and all the ways that we can utilize them, then it's kind of less effective. So, but otherwise I have no problem with your requests. Okay, I will, we are working with marketing and communications on a new platform for park-based trials and trying to build that currently. I'm hopefully we're near the end. I'm, it's been a longer process than anticipated, but to speak exactly to you that is how do you get on and where it is it go. So that's part of when we're going through the trail master plan and we're looking at connections and all that we're doing is trying to navigate that through the eyes of the residents on how to access and stuff. So that is a part of the process when we're looking at adding new trails, adding a new website. But how does that all communicate to the community and residents and visitors? A question, so even going back to the part. Is there any thought that at some point maybe creating some type of app Like the app that would have the tree so if I wanted to plan I want to do a run or walk I'm not gonna run But a walk you know and I can maybe plan about you know how I think it's like the is a map that it can tell you. If you do this trail, then that'll get you your two miles. And if it connects, so is there any thought, do we have any software? Is it any opportunity to create some type of trails map that would allow people to map out their activity? Angie, I know this just because I used it all the time. There's this fantastic app called BikeMap. And it'll know your where destination is. You time where you want to go, and you can ask it, do more roads, do more trails, and it will track it all for you. And it will tell you turn by turn and how to do it. But I grew up in an NGO that as I said, it's many times before. We definitely need to give it marketing, do some kind of videos to show the trails and show where it's getting in and out of. But I agree with everybody else. We've started on Town Lake. We've had a lot of money on Town Lake. I think we need to invest our money into finishing town lake before we start all of the projects. because when we started Town Lake, Council told us that that's a gateway to McKinney. That's the first thing everybody sees, so I agree. I would like to see that finished totally all the way through. project is because when we started Townway Council told us that that's a gateway to McKinney that's the first thing everybody sees so I agree I would like to see that finish totally all the way through to very highlight McKinney. I'm curious what those number two on the list was for surveys from the people. I know we heard hiking bike trails and we have a sense of the next couple after that. Got you. Thanks. So I have a couple of questions comments. So I agree with my colleagues, yes and a man, to the hiking biking trails, the big projects that we get those finished. I want wanna turn my attention to a couple of the smaller projects and the question that I asked last year for Watley Park and Cottonwood Creek. Has there been any consideration for restaurants? I know historically, and not only just McKinney, but all, the neighborhood parks are more for the neighbors. The mindset is when you have restrooms, they can go to their house together, restroom, I know that that's not a great explanation, but they're close to the homes, they can go home. We have started putting like a portal, like with a cover in it to try to see what that might seem. But typically in any city around DFW you will not find a restroom in a neighborhood park. If I heard you correctly you did say a portalette. We have one Marywood in the e-randles so some of the bigger neighborhood parks we do have it is a pretty much a prefab that over sits over a portalette so it doesn't look like just a portalette. So it's kind of like a pilot to see how it does. Yeah. And then after that, if it does well, what do you think that does? It's just it's a cost thing as well. We only get maybe a handful of complaints a year on the need for a restroom and a neighborhood park. But that's we can definitely revisit it and just see how those do and come up with the plan if that's something that's needed. All right. And then my second question to revisit your funding sources. So I see your parkland dedication fees, your bonds, MCDC of course, Colin County and then the fifth one I think was open space and wildlife. There it is. It takes us parks and wildlife. So these are these are actual funds that you have. Do you have any potential funding that you are pursuing? We were actually going after a $7 million grant for Old Sellers Park. This was through actually Parks and Wildlife, but we just received that all of that funding, the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of But also knowing that there are some potentials down the road for through possibly Trax Texas our recreation and park society or even a national NRPA national wrecking park association. So, you know, we've been working with a third party to help identify some potential grants as well as we have a grant committee that I know that Jenny sits on to help identify potential grants and identify those. I know that we have received some pollinator grant for wildflowers. So they're out there. It's just having the manpower to go and find those funding. So we're working because we know there's a need there. And I knew that about the old settlers, seven million, but I wondered if there were others as well. But thank you. Thank you for the support. Parks Board, we have suggestions. I know Leslie had mentioned trails. I'll add my two cents to that as well. Getting trails connected to our regional partners and also within the existing trail system, even if it's nature trails. As a beginning point, with the idea later to do something more permanent, I think is something that we definitely would love to focus on in getting north of 380 so that we can connect from Stonebridge area, West McKinney, all the way up to Irwin Park without getting on the street is critically important. So getting that land secured and that that underpass properly created and maintained is important. Getting connected from gray branch on the east side of Wilson Creek down to the Lake Forest Bridge. Wilson Creek Bridge on Lake Forest just north of Boyd, which requires working with private landowners either to grant easements, whether that's through McKinney Parks Foundation or the city is something we really need to ratchet up and focus on because that will give us connectivity all the way from downtown McKinney, all the way to West McKinney and ultimately up to Irwin without getting on a road. So I think that's critically important for us. Other board members, advisory board members. I just like to add to their points about the town leg. Town leg is really the gate to McKinney. And I think it must be done and completed prior to starting other projects because it's, and with what we're adding now. So I think it's going to make a big media and big approach, but you can more focus on the map. Thank you. Just a quick point on that completion of Town Lake, though, maybe share with us a little bit about the timing to get that done, because when we were going through the bond process, we had pretty detailed timing on the amount of time that Phase 1 and 2 would shut it down. And we tried to collapse some of the phases together, knowing we would extend for a certain amount of time, but the overall project would be shortened. So maybe talk a little bit about the timing to get some of the phases done. Sure, and I don't know if I have a good point. There we go. So, you know, the dog park and the light walk, fortunately those, I think I'm going the wrong direction. Those don't impact the overall town like itself proper in terms of, you know, shutting anything down or, you know, impacting usability. So I'm trying to find the master plan here. I'm getting there, I'm getting there. Okay, so what we have in the bond, the 25 million that was approved as part of the bond election. Basically includes everything along the northern edge of town lake, northern edge of the pond, and then a little bit on the west side as well, kind of as you approach 75. And it also does include that bridge in the middle, as well as the sky structure that's kind of at the south term, terminus of where that bridge connects the two sides. And Mr. Meade is right. What we wanted to do was have as few impacts to the overall park as possible knowing that, this is easily one of the most popular parks in the city. Nobody's gonna like it being shut down for construction. so how much could we get constructed at once so that it's just done, you know, kind of once and then done. That was the idea of including so much in one phase. And, you know, timing wise, I think, you know, the bonds have been sold for design, for this section, this sort of Northern section, the bonds have been sold, should hit our account, project accounts in, I want to say July, by the time we get, you know, design contract going, we could, we could start design on this, um, absolutely by August, you know, getting a design contract in place. Now design of something of this magnitude, it will probably take a good, a good year and then into bidding and getting that ready. So it's not unrealistic to think that any year and a half from July or August, we could have the design on this wrapped up. Now, when we talk about town lake in its entirety, we don't have the construction funding in place for this sort of, I guess, the remaining sections along the south side, you know, which would include additional boardwalk and, you know, some, you know, some plaza areas. But that is something, you know, that is something that we can certainly, you know, address through additional bond elections or, you know, grant requests. But the sequencing of funds, like I said, we've got the 2.5 coming this year and then something that we've been, you know, kind of towing with through the CIP group and the CFO is that we would kind to phase out the construction money, maybe not get all the remaining 22 and a half million all at once, maybe kind of phase it out a little bit just to help our bonding capacity for the other remaining CIP projects. Hey, Ginny, I had a question that little foresty area south of the lake when I moved here in 1999. It was a nice old place to walk around and we could do any improvements to that Since it is adjacent to the lake just to kind of add to the Ambiance and anybody who's been here a while probably knows that used to be just a great area that little area forest I don't know what to call it, but we're talking about the east side of the park. I would say it's the South It's where you have that little orange color and funny funny green color, just south of the lake there. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's where... Can we have our disc golf course? No, this is kind of the little walking area. Across from the recreation center we're doing. We're redoing the walking trails. Yeah Yeah walking trails to the woods, but I don't know what we call it Thanks, Bruce. I guess, yes. Okay. Are we going to improve it? It looks pretty beat up now. Didn't used to be about 20 years ago. But are we doing anything to improve that? I think we've had a lot of storms come through there and flooding. I than you know some work where parks maintenance crews and our parks foundation I don't know that we have any immediate plans to improve that area other than creation of additional nature trails but if there's certainly maintenance problems down there we can get down there and look. I have a question just on this side. I know we've been talking a little bit about marketing promotion and things of that nature. What's the budget for marketing and promotion for you guys? I don't know. I don't know that one. So it is a split budget. So we have a very small piece of it. That's more for the guides. That is for one-offs, promotional items, and stuff for events and stuff. The larger budget is in the marketing communications. And they do have a piece of parks and rack as well. I honestly, I can get that for you though. Yeah, I'm just curious as you're budgeting, and I know we've smithened a lot, and obviously the strategic goals of CDC just really want to bring people in. I'm curious about if there's been any talk about, obviously there's things coming with, different events centers and things of that nature we're talking about how great McKinney is. If there's any kind of collaboration across some of the departments for the city about creating something, a collaborative that can show off McKinney period, and then you have really prominent aspects of the parks area to be sure of in a video of something like that, like a commercial or something. I know that that definitely is something we have to be looking at. I'm whether it's Pizzic McKenny, you know, the city of, but there is a collab and we have to do looking at. Whether it's visit McKinney, you know, the city of but there is collab and we have to do a good job of telling our story. But, you know, when you talk about, you know, the budget for social media, some of our most successful are just staff time of creating rules. And so some of those things are very minimal cost that we can do, we just need to do more of it. Yeah, and I think if I was thinking about some priority things for me in that area, just my short time on MCDC for last year, I think anytime it's been talked about with the parks, it's these great parks. How do we get the word out? What about a larger portion of the budget being committed to some type of you know beyond Reels and Instagram but campaigns actual campaigns that can be utilized to get people in we're putting all this money in these parts But nobody knows or people don't know where they are how to do it like some just some thought on that Mark, so you give your time and talent up to do the video yourself You can definitely call my Asia, we can work it out. Is that all the reports? I mean, this is a lot of information. Thank you for, and so you've kind of heard what we kind of identified some of our priorities as a boarding. We can maybe finalize them in some type of word document. For me, I just want to see these catalyst projects come in fruition. And I know we have to continue to plan, but the biggest thing, even when I got on the board in 2018, was completing projects that are in the pipeline. Versus continuing to just add, I mean, we want to grow, but we need to complete. And we continue as life is happening, cause costs are increasing. It's going to always be a shortfall. And we have to identify, like, where is that going to do we not have some other projects smaller projects community neighborhood projects so that we can focus on sure we get these big projects the catalyst projects the ones that are identified as gateways so that was the end of our comments today. Any closing comments from I'd like like to make a comment. You know, when you look at the total revenue coming into MCDC, I think it's in the neighborhood of 30 million per year. One thing to take into consideration, you know, we always talk about how important our parks and recreation is. When you do the five and a half million, it's less than 20% of the total budget if you look at a pie chart and I guess we just have to stand back and say you know what is what is reasonable you know looking at our future potentially 400,000 people in this city over the next 15-20 years I was looked to the future as a traffic engineer, but it's really important to just keep that in mind. You know, look at the big picture. What we're spending versus the bank for the buck, if you will. And I don't think you can put a price tag on the view from that. What I'm really looking forward to is that look out teller on Erwin Park. If you've not been out there at that high point of McKinney, which it is the highest point in McKinney, and you can look out 30 miles, you can't put a price tag on that. So I just want to put that in reference when you look at the dollars and back when I was on MCDC and ArcSport about 15 years ago, right, Leslie. That was really kind of a shot in the dark, quite honestly. You know, we said five and a half, we weren't really sure. Obviously we went over that every year. So the need is there. It's what the residents want and just want to make that point that it's just there's always going to be a shortfall I think with when you look at the you know the need for our growth a need for the parks the regional park all of that it's it's it's big right it's It's really big. So just want to point that out. Thank you. I have one comment, my name's Monica S. Camilla. I know we saved $5.5 million million and that's like a really huge sum of money. But taking into account the rising cost of everything, how much things have increased in cost form, like a piece of wood to labor and those types of things, I think maybe considering those fiscal things, maybe increasing the budget would be like Fiscalary responsible for us because Because of those rising costs I'll make one comment just in response I guess First my first point would be my earlier one which is that This board does not stop at five and a half. It hasn't stopped at 5.5 million since 2015, since this was put into place by Council. And every year we have gone significantly over that as high as 10.8 million in FY21. My, and I have no problem with this board increasing its commitment through Council's direction. My only concern with increasing that commitment is park staff ability to put that money out. We're talking about projects that we funded as far back at least as FY 23 that are still drawing down on that money. If parks can get the money out the door so that that money isn't, is being used and isn't tied up on our books and is actually going to what it is intended for, then I have no problem with increasing our commitment and in fact we already have demonstrated that our commitment is much higher than 5.5 million. If we can get the projects out the door consistently, then that would be appropriate. If we continue to have shortfalls in our ability to move that money out. Then I think we should be slightly circumspect about how much we increase that commitment. And make it commensurate with parks staff ability to execute those projects. Thank you. We do not have any additional comments. We will entertain a motion toward adjourned. So moved. Second. Move by David. Rache second by David. Kelly did I miss him? Motion made by David Rache second by David Kelly can I get a vote from MCDC Hi And pros board do we have a motion to adjourn at 640? I'll make a motion to adjourn at 640 Leslie Warren makes a motion. Do we have a second? I'll second that. David Clark seconds. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed. We are adjourned at 640. Thank you.