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What's my plan to do to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all. So the first order of business is election of officers and I'll turn that over to the council liaison to help administer election of the commission, chair and vice chair. All right. Thank everyone for one. Thank everyone for coming out tonight. First meeting of this planning commission. Post August hiatus. The first item on the official agenda has the opening as the election of officers. We have two officers who can be nominated this time for terms of one year. They are the chair of the Planning Commission. Chair serves to run the meetings. They are in fact, per Robert's rules of order, the presiding officer when the chair either cannot be present or is unable to act with respect to the duties of the chair. So are there any nominations for the Office of Chair? I'd like to nominate you. All right. One of the pieces, the summary of motions has the official motion to elect. I will. OK. Go ahead. Sorry. Any other words? I was just saying the nomination itself wouldn't need a motion is just that final election. So you can discuss. But then the actual motion to elect is what's in the summary of motions. Well, before we get to making the motions, I'd like to get nominations for the office of vice chair. Is there anyone who will, among the serving members of this body nominate someone to be vice chair of the planning commission. Yes I'd like to nominate Brian Green as vice chairperson. Is there a second for that? Second. I move that the Planning Commission elect Ron Rys senior has chair of the Planning Commission elect, Ron Rice Senior, has chair of the Planning Commission commencing immediately, through February 6th of 2025, filling an unexpired term. Is there a second of that motion? A second of motion. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Are any opposed? Motion carries nonopposed. I move that the Planning Commission elect Ryan C. Green as vice chair of the Planning Commission commencing immediately through February 6th of 2025, filling an unexpired term. Is there a second of that motion? Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Second all in favor I Any opposed Hearing none opposed motion passes Now that we have a chair of the planning commission We've I can turn the meeting over to the chair. Thank you. I'd like to continue on if it's all right. But everybody will go forward here. And again, thank you so much for allowing me to do this. I do the best I can. I've got a great staff and a great group joining here. So I think we're going to have a good year. I'll take the next thing on the agenda is, the first thing I need to do is ask if there's any desire to change any of the agenda. Well, that would be item number five on the agenda. Oh, I didn't see it. Sorry. I'm already see it. Sorry. I'm already going to be fired. Do you have a rest of the meeting? Yeah I am. I've been told to rush. I don't take too long. Okay. I'd like to go and then next thing is item four, a reappointment of the planning clerk. Clark. I moved to a point, Kendall. Now I'm going to mess this up. Win it. Win an Eski. Win an Eski? Okay. As a playing card. Oh, okay. I moved to the playing commissioner of Point Kendall. Win an Eski. I get to do it again. Planning operation coordinator for the town of Percivil as secretary of the planning commission commencing immediately and until another future appointment has been made. Do I get a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Not hearing opposed to the motion carries. Seven to. Okay, we'll move on to the. Item five agenda agenda, amendment. Is there anyone that would like to make any amendments to our agenda this evening? Hearing none. Actually, I do want to make a amendment. I would like to add a discussion item. Let's make that 10 B. discussion of background of the incoming planning commissioners. Yeah, that's good idea. I think that can go each way. So it's on the table to add discussion item 10B, background of the incoming planning commissioners. Is there a motion to add second. I can be all in favor. I any opposed. Okay. The amendment agenda amendment passes seven or none against. Item six, Commissioner Disclosures. Are there any Commissioner Disclosures this evening? Hearing none, we'll move on. Item seven, approval of minutes has everybody had a chance to read the minutes. Any changes? Any comments? Can I get a motion to, if there aren't any, I like an motion to amend all the commission meeting minutes from O62024 all the way through O73124, an motion to approve, to approve without reading. Thank you. I so move. Get us, get a second. I've got that. Okay. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Motion carries. Seven to none. Okay, all favor. Hi. I motion carries 7 to none Do count you said please I to meet citizen business and comments do we have Casey Chapman KC how are you fine sir? Can you say your name and address? Definitely Casey Chapman, 125. He's first for a case go LLC. I just wanted to welcome the new members. You know, thank you for coming out and putting yourself out there to participate in this committee. It's an important committee for the town. It helps guide the town looking at very important issues, you know, especially with the new comp plan rewrite coming up. And so with that, I just like to say, I appreciate you coming out and putting your hat in the ring. And, you know, congratulations for being chosen to sit on the board to the new chair, advice chair. Congratulations on your appointment. With a new board, hopefully is a new chapter. So as I've watched over the past years and have been involved in many meetings and stood up in front of the Planning Commission and Council, various ideas were talked about and things were done that I think could be improved. And I think this is an opportunity in which you all could grasp that and run with it to improve how the Planning Commission is going to tackle the major issues, specifically the comp plan rewrite and making sure we get great, you know, citizen residents to be engaged as well as business owners or people that visit the town to provide that. I would state for the new members if you weren't really involved to go back and watch some of the previous meetings, right? Look at what we're said, some of the comments made to see if you, you know, see how you feel about those stances doesn't matter to me which way they are but just understand everyone's position and how they have voted in the past and then now you know we have and see wrap your head around the zoning ordinance that's in front of town council you know this ordinance I think is going to be a very important thing that needs to be decided. I'm very eagerly waiting to watch and see how it's handled at council level. I know that staff always does a great job so no concern there and no concern with how the council should like to do it. And of course however it plays out it plays out. My aspirations just like in state and I've stated before you know I'm not here trying to develop Perseville into the maximum density. I'm not here looking out just for my sole interest. I was raised in this town, my businesses are located in this town. You know I do not live in Perseville but I do care deeply about this community and I hope with you know strong committee commissions and boards as well as a strong town council We can lead personal into the future it deserves and With that again, thank you. Congratulations and new chapter moving on Thank you, Casey We're down to item 9, Plenty Staff Report. 9A, Director's Report. That's ready. Thank you, Jim. Thank you. I just wanted to give you a few items about what's staffed it on for some of the occasion. During the recess we did keep busy and I wanted to give you some highlights and some additions. There's some new things going on. As you know, when Dale Linnig, the former engineering director, retired, then I became the director. We separated engineering and planning. I also want you to know that we have completely separated those departments, including the website. So you will see on the town website that we do have two separate pages now, and we've added a lot of new things to that. So I would invite you to go look at the new planning and community development website. We're continuing to update those documents. That will be a very important resource as we move forward into the conference of Plan Update. Secondly, Boyd and Jordan and I took a tour of all the water facilities with the Public Works Director Jason Dittowick on August 22nd. And it's fascinating to me when all the way to the reservoir, all the way down, it's all every single facility. So that was very eye-opening for me just to really see it. And so Mr. Dittowick two as well, anyone who wants to go on a tour, then we can arrange that. So you can just let me know and we'll figure something out. Takes about three hours to see, to go up to the reservoir and come down. And perhaps a separate tour for sewer facilities, but we could possibly work it into a four-hour tour to see, you know. possibly work it into a four-hour tour. You see, you know? I think that's a great idea. In fact, I had that on my list to bring up tonight. I think everybody should see both facilities. In fact, I think a lot of the citizens should get a chance to look at that, too. My question to you is, the staff is very busy out there working hard and to have this tour it does take time to bring that. Is it possible for a group this group to go together with it? Yes absolutely. I don't want to get in trouble with it. Only two together thing. I think it you know what I'm saying that's easier. I think it actually for staffing it'm saying that's easier I think in actually poor staff and it would be easier if commission wanted to do an excessive to and I say that because if Jason did what was taking out he could fit you know two in one car but not have to have another staff go along with them and schedule wise it like you got away so I think for public disclosure purposes it would be best to keep to those, that rule too, so to speak for you. And I think that's great. So what we ought to do is get that set up, maybe just get a sign up she's done, and then get that lined up. And you guys can all get available. I haven't seen the water facility up on mountain. I don't know, I like to see that. Of course, I'd like to see the other facility again too, because it's a catalog of equipment. Thank you. Sorry, I didn't wrap. We will do that. We'll send an email around and we'll talk to you about that. We have a new staff member and engineering, but he's a GIS person, which is very exciting to have a fully dedicated GIS person. His name is Reza Ghazvini and he has seven years of experience. He comes to us from California. He specializes in environmental engineering, agricultural mapping, and local government mapping. And so he's our GIS senior specialist. Again, principally a scientific engineering but we're going to use him profusely as we get into again the conference planning. So he's working with Kendall too. Status of the historic survey, as you know our intern PJ Flynn started the survey back in May and he was trained on the new state software and has utilized the software to update several portions of town now. He's surveyed all of West Main Street, all of downtown. He's almost about to finish the East Main and South Second Street. He's essentially going to survey everything within the historic court or overly district first. Then he's going to make to incorporate the proposed historic properties overly district, and then he's going to try to survey everything in town. He has a senior at George Mason, but he's going to work with us throughout the year. He had some interesting findings from the survey. He said that since the 2006 historic survey, there have been four demolitions of historic properties. There are over a dozen buildings within the historic corridor, overly district that are now over 50 years old. In other words, since almost 20 years ago, they've now tripped into the historic category. And also with John He,, our economic development director, the creator of virtual self-guided walking tour of the historic personal bill using ARC GIS story maps. And so he's taking all the information he's getting and is making a walking tour. So stay tuned for that. I'm just kind of excited for that. Next, you know we have joined the Main Street Program, extra Mr. Brato and Mr. Rise were there at our first meeting on August 13th at the train station. As part of that, we're going after our first grant. It's called the T-Mobile hometown grant. It's a grant for $50,000 that are for several ready projects downtown. Beautifications, streetscaping, and a number of improvements. So we put together a list with the Parks and Direct Department for possible improvements along Main Street and 21st Street. And we do hope to get that grant at some point. That's great. I was wondering what the maps were when I was going through. The. Yeah, that's the next thing. That's actually the I was wondering what the maps were when I was going through the Yeah, that's the that's the next thing that's actually Is there's free Google Wi-Fi? I have a question about the T-Mobile grant His staff keeping track of staff time spent seeking this grant We have not been we certainly could I Believe you should because we need to keep return on investment in mind To avoid spending fifty five thousand dollars to get a fifty thousand dollar grant by way of example Sure, sure we absolutely could do that again. It's a Little bit of myself my my time John heathers time, and Amy Wehrstime as the Parks and Wildlife Director. So finally, these two maps on pages 41 and 42 are maps of where the free Google Wi-Fi is now being installed. I thought you might be interested to see that. Both here and actually also Dylan Woods. That's it for the Director's report. Well, thank you. I had one more question. So is the town responsible for maintaining Wi-Fi locations or does T-Mobile? No. No. It's Google. That's totally there. That's all done. I just wanted, no. No, it's Google. That's totally there. So I just wanted you to be aware that it was there. And they're on secure, and I'm just a girl, then. Yes. They're free. Thanks, Senator. All right. Then to continue on with the planning staff report, the plan tracking summary is on page 43. We discussed at some point, I believe, in July or June that we were sort of cleaning up this list a little bit as those departments have split. And what you see here is reflective of mostly site plans, the easements and things like that that were heavily engineering reviewed are off this just to kind of make sure we're focusing in a lot of things that you'll see plenty wise list from the top and just highlight some of the things that have changed. The last we spoke. Catechne Corner Building 6 is actually the Penaer Building. So that's, as you've seen, been going up pretty quickly here. I've been getting their, their siding and their roof and all the way there's all and they'll be moving on that pretty quickly. Similarly, we understand IHOP is starting to do some of the interior work there. So with those two buildings in that build out, that corner will be essentially built out. There won't be any planned pad sites or anything like that in those initial plans. 740 East Main Street is that the Boulder Dental Building that was demolished at that site has been fully cleared and preliminaryly graded in their waiting for final approval on that site plan, which staff and county approval agencies, Fire Marshal Nidot are finalizing. We have to have that finalized soon. That has already gone through the BAR for the architectural approval. And I think we discussed that at some point, but those are online. I also almost forgot to mention with the website on the planning. We at some point in discuss Kendall had put basically a version of this summary on the website for citizens and planning commissioners that have some excerpts of those site plans or the BAR renderings were available to get a better visual and understanding of what's going on out in town. So we hope that folks will use that. We'll send that link to in case you want to share that with anyone who asks. The Woodgrove bus expansion is just a asphalt expansion of their parking lot to include space for additional buses. That site plan, a minor site plan has been approved and will finalize the easement for the drainage. We received in the last month a minor site plan for the 7-11 on the west end of town. And this work has been was initially requested by the town and it's going to go in conjunction with the 30-second of Main Street improvements. The minor sight plan first seeks to just essentially pave that rear gravel lot and enable an aisle to get from the front through the rear into what will be more paved parking there and will place the dumpster enclosure behind the building and the goal here is that delivery trucks and dumpster trucks are not stopping really in the sight triangle of that corner. They can proceed into the front, the northern side of 711, go through the back to access, the dumpster, or to do deliveries, and then they can proceed in a right turn down 30 second street and follow A's street to get out. Along with the town's capital project for a 30 second of Maine, I would hope to alleviate a lot of the issues there, the traffic issues. Yeah, Jordan, that's great. And I think for a lot of us, a visual would be really good to know exactly where he's talking about, right? You got it? OK. How about you? You got where he's at? What are you talking about? Thanks, Tom. Well, I believe on the website too. There's a poster. And again, that's like, and it's just one piece of the puzzle because they're doing that work at their cost to get their side ready. Our capital project, which is just in the, it's not fully engineered for exactly the sidewalks that will connect fast fault trail from the bell properties up to Main Street. That'll be part of our capital projects. We'll see that hopefully work in symphony there. The annexation, the last touch point that the council had on that was to direct the applicant to work with staff on a memorandum of understanding to do additional modeling. So data and information that the council would like to see before they make any further action. Staff has outlined some of those motions that the council directed and the applicant is working to finish their draft of a MOU that will review once we have it in hand. The rest of the list with the sub 11 piece they had we had bar meeting this last Tuesday the 17th on that bar meeting was the dumpster enclosure for that 711 which is standard town Frick enclosure metal doors which again will be in the rear and then we had a B.A.R. submission for the remaining strip plaza its Main main street station, over by giant. So if you recall, in 2022 giant did some painting and the blue roof, they painted like a charcoal or a black and the color scheme of white in gray, which the VR supported. So this application that just came before VR was approved is to match that color palette for the entire plaza there to match giant. So I believe that work they described the applicant potentially starting in spring next year. Some of the pieces that aren't quite on the plan tracking but I wanted to mention because they had been on the tracking and in engineering asset we share them as well. Towns app have been in continued talks with the county and in review of various plans. And one is the 769 interchange. In recent discussions, the county has affirmed that they will agree to and conduct elevations certificates for the houses affected by any of the potential floodplain changes associated with that project. So the county will be emailing those homeowners requesting permission to access their properties to conduct the surveying. What elevations certificates can do and we can expect to explain and forward some of engineering's details on this. An elevations certificate can help a homeowner get an actual on the site on the actual property elevation taken which can affect their insurance rates based on what might be supposed to be elevation and what is actually proven the county has agreed as the town has requested since the initial review of these plans. The county has agreed to perform those elevations, certificates for the homeowners and then at the conclusion of the project we'll conduct all the surveying and and permitting necessary to issue a letter of map revision for that project. You know that's close to my heart so I thank you very much that that's moving forward and I hope that additionally as this process continues with the addition of I believe this will also include an additional three box culprit which will change the Bay flood alvations of course as soon as you do that then the downstream low mar that we currently have in place from 2012 that probably will meet that is you start releasing water you change the hydraulic system right you've actually opened that up to let the water flow faster during one of those jets. So what happens is that's going to move downstream to hatcher, beyond hatcher, etc. And it's a scaling problem that probably also needs to be looked at because you know, we're down according to that low mar, we're 8,000 cubic feet per second downstream from hatcher and hatchers underwater during that event. So there's more work that needs to be done. We just can't look upstream from north 21st Street. It's great. It's fabulous and glad this is all going on. But as soon as you change the hydraulic engineering effects of that dam. It was basically acting as a dam, downstream effects will continue to build up during the same event. We just wanna make sure our friends in other communities here in town, because a lot of them are on the edge and we've got other properties, right, along there that needs to be looked at. Thanks. If you need me to help you with that or look at that let me know. Good good information thank you and that's the end of sort of the track and summer here and again happy to discuss with anyone any further details anytime. I had one last thing. The school access road, do you have an update on that? Of course, I think that's also going to be used to build our new water tower, right? I think that's part of that. Correct. So initial plans for the water tower, they were in add a capital project level. The council had approved a budget amendment. I think the initial costs were re-quoted or quoted and they had to reallocate some money from different projects to get the water tower. But one of the savings is that the access road was getting constructed quickly. The town wouldn't have to construct a temporary access road. So we'll be able to use that road and that'll get in there before the water tower work is started. I believe the contract with a water tower has executed estimate completion in the summer of 2026 for that tower. Any other questions? I guess we'll move on to 9C. This item is regarding the Loudoun County Conference of Arts Plan. We were contacted in mid-August, leaving the planning staff. We're contacted by Loudoun County regarding this plan and requesting an interview for our staff and the Parks and Rec staff Again, this is not our initiative, but all this is this is Loudoun County's art plan and I principally want to make you aware of this planning effort because I know that it's and it is principally a Parks and Rec Function along with the personal arts council. But I wanted to make you aware of this plan because I think as we go along with our conference of planning effort there might be ways that we could use the information this consultant is gathering and piggy back somewhat on this plan. For this component of the plan and frankly because we will not have the means to hire a consultant like this ourselves, we can certainly, again, utilize and do all we can to be a part of this planning effort without getting too much into the weeds in this. We, some of the questions they asked are in the interviewer, what are the arts and personal bill? What are the needs? What are the conference plan recommendations? What existing programs do you have? What initiatives? Again, principally, a lot of this is parks and rec based. They talked about arts, businesses, and so on. Again, I want to make you aware of this, and if this is something that this body would like to delve into further Then we'll certainly do that Right now we've had the one interview we will be interviewed again And at some point within the next six months you know generate ideas as necessary as we do our research with the conference plan Again, this is a minor component of the conference plan. We're not going to spend a lot of time on it, but it's something that if you as the commission want to be involved, we certainly can think of it as a discussion item. I encourage all of you to read through this. I think there's a lot of interesting information, especially background information information item three. Projected continued to grow the county by 24 percent over the next 15 years. A lot of census information there might be interested in looking. In my mind, Eastern, Eastern, Western Loud, you know, it's sort of a painling farming. I can't eat the arts. And I'm hoping that the county will start looking at some other things that I think Western Loud needs. For example, there's a big plan for the wrecks over here on 43 acres, but I think you know future farmers of America, the 4-H club, a lot of kids don't play ball, that type of thing. I think it's a perfect area to have a nice mix of ball fields, maybe some livestock and some other things so I encourage some out of the box thinking of how we can best use and that the county is purchased because I've seen these people these consultants coming up and all they think about is stuff and the whole thing with ball fields etc but there are other uses that I believe that our young people could benefit from such as some farming activity, things like that through these organizations. So I'm going to be reaching out to John Ellis and others and see if we can talk to the county. I'll be doing that as a citizen, not as a council member. I encourage everybody to keep an open mind of this other ways to do that. You know, there was, I don't recall the exact number of farms, dairy farms here. And I think a lot of counties down to one dairy farm. And, you know, foods got to come from somewhere. That said, look, thank you. I think this is good. Just keep it some form. I appreciate that you're doing that. And giving this to you to us. Good information. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We've got an extra. the Did you want to present something? I can touch on this. All right, great. Thank you. Good evening, commissioners. I'll give a little background every three months or every quarter. The mayor asks for report from the chairs of all the committees, boards and commissions. So it's basically a recap of activities over that three month period. The last one was provided in July. What we have done, and typically this was presented by Nan Forbes as the chair. And at me, him mostly drafted these in the past, but staff is proposing we could draft these for the chair. Chair could add it as needed or where he wanted to input. Prior to the presentation to the town council, we presume we'll probably be October. So that's just a little background on the process and presentation and you only get generally three minutes to make the presentation. So of course you wouldn't read the whole report. You could condense it as to what you felt was necessary to provide. So what I provide here is just a recap, mainly July at this point. August of course was a recess. September will update with the information from tonight adding the new members and the chair of the vice chair information, election of officers. I did have a chance to read through it. Okay, yeah, as I mentioned, mostly recap of July because that was the bulk of what we do in finalizing the zoning drafts, zoning ordinance. So I guess Ron, it's up, finalizing the zoning drafts, zoning ordinance. Yes, I guess Ron, it's up, we'll create this report for you and then we'll be able to provide it to the council at the quarterly report, the request of the mayor. Maybe this is a good time to ask what is the status of that zoning rewrite that we did in our own. Can I ask that question now? It's probably a good time. Sure. It's a product. That's fine. Yeah. That's right. The zoning rewrite has been scheduled for the October 8th council meeting to present the planning commission strapped as a report to basically a presentation and then at the next council meeting October 20th. The council will go into work session and do a deeper dive into the ordinance. Twenty seconds. So the month of October essentially is devoted to the zoning rewrite. Any other questions? The trinicate public comment and November time frame at this point is a two-four to look forward. Right, no public hearing has been scheduled yet. Target? No target has been scheduled yet. Target? No target has been sent yet. So Ron in regards to the quarterly report, when it's announced to provide it to the town council, I'll be in touch with you. To be precise to provide you the most current grant. My manager will be working closer together. So, Charlie, come on over because we've got to get time. Okay. Agenda squared away. keep on that site. Action. There's one more. Oh yeah, sorry 10 B. You know I wrote it down on a different one. Yeah, we wanted to get to know each other a little bit more. Would you like to lead that with that? Certainly. So when the town council interviewed each of you, they broke from tradition and the interviews were conducted on public but in closed session, which means that the public and also the existing members of the planning commission, myself accepted, don't know how you responded to questions that were put to you and don't really have any sense of what brings you to the planning commission. So I think what I'm looking for from everyone is just an extended introduction from each of the new members and then we'll go around the room to the existing members present and we'll introduce ourselves and let you know how long we've been on the Planning Commission and what we think that the role and goals of the Planning Commission are. So I guess we can start at the end of the table there. I'm Matt Davis. We've got my wife and the two kids. We have little Din, first of all, kind of the back line of Chick-fil-A for I guess a little over five years, I think. And professionally during the day, I, the Vice President at Bayon meter were real estate, development, operating company in Northern Virginia and been there for about the same time about five years. And my father's been in a look service for most of his career, kind of grown up watching him. And so he's been a very rewarding thing for him. Kind of enjoy what I do during the day. And I feel like this would be kind of a good blend to be able to serve and help and use my background to serve the community. It's kind of a little bit about me and how I came to be here. Well, we'll girlman men. and the house that I've just had, and I know who I've worked in interloving care into that place. And with the process of using some of the lighting, there were two lots, and then one of the lots was we got to do the Harvard and I and Brad Hanger, the South, and the bottom of me was in the street, we found that we moved the line and it paid me to buy. And then we were working in the wall, and I think it was nice. It looked like these were terrible lives. It was seven million citizens, and I think you're Mike Mayer may not be on the broadcast. Sorry. I'm sorry. Can't get it on. Okay, I don't have my red light. I'm not going to repeat all that other than to say that we had a cause to learn the zoning early on in our movement here, moving here in the early 2000s. And I went through the process of rezoning the property to the R3A back, I think 2009 was my first official submittal, and then there was a lot of things that I hadn't considered in the King. And brought me to school, so to speak. And I had to learn a lot more. And I finally just started from scratch again. I paid another application fee and started from scratch, just recently in 2003 and went through the process again, this time successfully and thanks to you all. And I learned a lot in the process, and I was looking over closely with the staff and really good people and enjoyed the communication with the and the concerns that is who my best understand that the commission had and then town council soon be pleased to have a B&B. But the process, while it gave me some experience, it made me realize, this is a lot of work. And my little project is nothing compared to what the town has to do. I'm retired now. And I'm used to working a lot back when I have an home company. So I decided to take some energy in towards the town. I can't help. The most relevant experience I had probably for this kind of work is facilities planning at General Dynamics where plant service requests will come in. I think somebody coming forward with the project and then I would have to get stakeholders involved and plan out you know they want that the stakeholders want the opposite you know make some decisions and then see the plan all the way through and design it and develop it and see it through and I kind of likened that to what's happening here. I'm planning to finish it, I don't know. So that's what brought me here. It's not that I've got the interest. Who was to come out first? I'm just kidding. So one of the things I'm going to go to, Matt, and I've got to chain chance to read your application. And one of the things I really liked what you said here, and I think it's important that you move here from Weaver. You know, and to be a part of a smaller community away from the hustle and bustle in Eastern Mau. That's right. And that's just, I think that's right on the money. That's how it works. And when we read what the county's forecasting in growth in loud and that ability to hang on to this is really found in the comprehensive plan, which a total rewrite is not in the card right now. We're supposed to revise and take a look at it here in five years period and the rewrite definitely doesn't happen to continue to do this. So there's not a big rewrite in this company. Okay, but there is a review, some things that need to be looked So there's not a big rewrite in this company. Okay. But there is a review, some things that need to be looked at. What people will do. But this is our DNA of our town. And then a law of this town in San Antonio, where it's just... Right now we're under the current zone. And those are the law. And it comes back what you said. You were used to reaching in like this because there's only an ordinance in the city of the park. There's a lot of shale states. And like you know, the lady right there is the Sony administrative. It doesn't have some leeway here and there for an allowance in the law. But she, as far as I'm concerned, is the tough cop. And he comes to zoning ordinances here. And that's what protects us. There's a lot of people who don't like it to zoning because it's a crutch on them. And I don't like it. A man got on the right way, says, no, you're not zoning it. And then got on the right way, says, no, you didn't have Sony yet. You know, and then once you started learning this, you know, and it all started. And the big panel farms in the middle of town, and I got to tell you a story just like, you know, that merciless up in Massachusetts, out of being explosive to solute, and they've been just like, pow, pow, and then they're down. You know, and yeah, I mean it was there. It was a big problem, so zoning isn't worth it. Yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna protect everybody across the world. My name is Brian Crunnan, I've been on the Plain and Commission for about two years now. And as we've found out and I were talking before, the meeting started, we did learn trial by fire. We came into a zoning that was well into its revision. We learned that by trial by fire, very large fire hose, but I think with the support of the previous members in this zoning ordinance, because staff really helps. I'll just get through that. And I think you're planning. You're going to see that there's a lot of synergies of that stakeholder management requirements versus desire. Do you really know what you want? Maybe this is what you want. Some folks don't know that. And there's negotiation. And I'm withdrawing 100% this complaint is that at Lighthouse, that we're always there for us to guide us to might our way. The zoning is the vehicle. The legal vehicle to get us there. I'm looking forward to the, you know, us coming into this as a team for the review. They've got to be free. Another great opportunity for us to dive in and be a part of that process and make sure our zoning now matches the comp plan. Now there may be some things in the comp plan that we can readjust based on the zoning and all this is coming together is it's a fine bench. My background is in IT for financial services company, program project management, disaster recovery. So why bring to the table I think is that, what if the scenario based risk-based? Got a huge, many to 10 plus years of risk mitigation, remediation, and I think that helps me kind of see the situation like with the probability and then look in the future state and say how does that matter in the future? So that's kind of my energy that I get from here also and I'm going to be the voicing of people above this town. First line of defense, a lot of folks don't read this so we can help them do it. So let's mean probably about two minutes. Hey, welcome again. Troy Brown, until tonight I was the newest playing commissioner, so thanks for joining. I joined after retiring from the Navy for after a long time and we moved out here and I think more or two of 2021 and from the small city of Falls Church which kept growing up and up and we love it out here. It's probably the best decision we've made in a very, very, very long time. I have Georgia's historic archivist and my wife, and my kids going to Mason and my son's, my daughter Maggie's going to Mason and my son Ty's going to Nova. I think, you know, I joined because I wanted to be part of the community. I'm very engaged at the American Legion here in town trying to kind of get that involved with the community as well. They're separate but still community-based. You know for me I know Brian mentioned risk. I am probably more prone to taking risk, which may or may not be a good thing to think about. And I know the process of the zoning rewrite or the zoning ordinance that was eye opening to me. And the public hearings, different things, you know, just seeing how people felt. So I'm that person. I'm the feelings guy. And I also believe, you know, this is the guiding tool. But I think there's, you know, I'm a balanced guy. You know, I get it. This is the balance. This is the balance. This is the tool, but I don't believe that there's any one document that's to end all be all, so that's just my thoughts. But I'm very privileged to be part of this. I want to do the right thing. I think it truly is for me. It's a balancing act within thoughts and processes, ideas within the town of Versailles. I look forward to being in the class with you to learn more. Thank you. I've been on the Planning Commission as liaison for coming up on two years now. Prior to that, I was on the Tau Council for two years and my engagement with the town proceeded that by another two years when I was on economic development committee here in this town. I first moved to I moved to Percivil nearly 20 years ago from Herndon. And prior to Herndon, I lived for a short period of time in Falls Church. Came to this town for a number of reasons. Just wanted to come out here with a family to enjoy a very different kind of atmosphere than we had in Herndon, which even 20 years ago was becoming a bigger place, shall we say. I found in my time on the planning commission that there's a lot of detail to go into. The Comprehensive Plan was itself created over several years by a large committee with significant public input, many meetings, and surveys that went out in order to determine people's vision of what this town should be and could be in the future. And the work of the Planning Commission, much of the work of the Planning Commission of the last couple of years has been aligned with the goal of getting the zoning ordinance updated to match what is in the new comprehensive plan. As our chair said before, we really only do a complete rewrite of the comprehensive plan every 10 years. At intervals, however, we make amendments to it. But it is a foundational document. And I think you'll find, as you read through the draft zoning ordinance, that we also made good on another of the goals for the draft zoning ordinance that we also made good on another of the goals for the revised zoning and that is to make it more readable for inexperienced readers of the zoning code. Something I believe you may have appreciated at some point in the past but it was to more clearly arrange the tables to clean up language where it was vague and consistent. We also made dozens and dozens of changes that including sections where state code, for example, was repeated verbatim into the zoning ordinance, which is not only unnecessary but counterproductive because as the state code changes and of course the state code prevails we would then presumably have to make changes to the zoning ordinance and it makes much more sense to simply reference the relevant section of the state code, rather than listing out the specific requirements, which may change from time to time. But I believe that a lot of the goals and purposes of revising the zoning ordinances were met. And frankly, it was from a not-so-great start because a consulting company was hired and the at various times went down certain rabbit holes in terms of changing the zoning as opposed to rewriting it in order to make it consistent with our comprehensive plan. So a lot of the work of the planning commission has been to correct those issues going forward. I've really enjoyed the time that I've been on the planning commission. As I've indicated, there are a lot of intricate problems to work through. And you get to hear a lot of differing perspectives from the people of Percivalist to what it is that they want, what it is that they would like to do with their property, or to see in adjacent properties. And it's a balancing act as Commissioner Brown said earlier. We have to not only look at what the zoning really is, what the comprehensive really is, what the comprehensive plan is, but also try and square that with opinions and public statements that are made regarding issues that people may see with those documents. Thank you for choosing to serve on this commission. All right. Thank you. I have some homework. Okay. The first thing is that dive into the survey page. It's on. Yeah. That chance dive into it and the patient's into page 118 for sure. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That chance I've been to it and pay attention to page 118 for sure. Okay. Okay. With that said, we're ready to move on. It looks like the last thing on my action item, right? From A. Resolution 24-07-02. Setting the Planning Commission meaning times. For one of the things I our bylaws, etc., etc. We've got a handbook, we've got resolution after resolution coming out of the town council. So I believe that we really probably, I would like to make sure that all these changes we need to get into the bylaws. So that these members of this commission have one stop shopping in order to find that information. You're not going all over the place to try and do it. And so that's one of the things I like to get on is another look at our bylaws and get this all concise down into one document so that the matches up and we're not chasing all over the place on things so that makes sense everybody so terms of I moved to this meeting times, the meeting times have always been, you know, the first and the third, the Thursday of every month. That's correct. And this, this is mostly procedural. So this draft is the same draft of the template that was used last year. The big highlight is, last year the planning commission needed to start at seven. We moved to six or at this still in here. But each year we have to pass this by resolution so that the town clerk doesn't have to announce a special meeting every time so that's set and they can advertise the years. I move that the planning commission approves resolution 24 to zero seven to zero to setting the planning commission meetings. Times is presented in the September 19 2024 agenda packet. I see. I'm going to go ahead and move to the commission. I move that the planning commission approves resolution 24 to zero seven to zero two setting the planning commission meetings times as presented in September 19, 2024 agenda package. Second that. Second that. All in favor. All right. All right. Come on, you got to have fun. We'll move on to item 12, Councilor Representative's report. Just a short report this evening. What's going to want to extend my thanks to the new planning commissioners for agreeing to serve on this very important commission. It's very important to people with personal and very important to the town council as well because town council looks for guidance from those who have immersed themselves in planning and zoning issues. And your participation here is as citizen members of this commission is to bring forth the perspectives not only from your individual lives, but also to talk to your friends and neighbors and find out what they're thinking on planning and zoning issues and distill those down into recommendations that can be forwarded to the town council for the discussion and adoption. So thank you again for agreeing to serve. Thank you. On the planning commissioner's comments. Commissioner Brown will start with you. I have none, Chair. Thank you. Thanks. Mr. Green. Again, thank you all new members. This is listening to our backgrounds and working with to anybody else. It is a true kaleidoscope of backgrounds. And I think that's necessary. We have some, we've had some spirited discussions, but I think having those various different perspectives gives the ability to look at an issue or a conversation from 360 degrees. And that just makes us stronger. Plus we had our staff, that's another view. I mean, there's a constant check in balance and discussion. So one, thank you for taking this on. We're gonna do great. I think we're gonna be as cohesive team. We're gonna do a lot of great things for this town. Looking forward to learning. I think that's an ongoing process. Learning with you and learning together as a forward to the circle field. Appreciate it. Thank you. Sure, Alma. Likewise, I do appreciate this opportunity. I was surprised I took the initiative to do this. I had some encouragement. I appreciate that. And then, y'all accepted me. So I appreciate that. Now I just got to do it. So, do my best. And I'll just finish up and I do want to, again, really think the staff for all your hard work on the re-write and tremendous effort across the board to get that done. I would then get to our two bad. I think we all did an incredible job on putting this thing together as we mentioned earlier. To really represent this comprehensive plan and without the overstate. So we'll see how that goes with the handway homes. For sure. Again't thank you guys. I'm looking forward to meeting Ryan next week. Can I promise all? I'm trying to get better. I'm sure I'll do a lot of it. All right. Next meeting, I told you 3rd, same time, same station, and then on the 17th. And we need to get an agenda together by... Start this week. This week, right? At Monday. You get it done week right? Monday. You get it done. Okay. Before we do that. I get a motion to adjourn. Plus there's anything else. I move to adjourn the September 19th, 2024 meeting of the Percival Planning Commission. Second. Second, then motion. I say this meeting is adjourned.