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And uh, Council member Goshai, I believe, will be here, but uh, she is currently late and, uh, Vice Mayor Barragan did mention that she will be absent today, but you do have a poor mayor. Okay, we hope Ms. Gosher can join us soon and hopefully figure out that echo our apologies. Moving on to the approval of amended agenda, right? Oh, yes. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rebecca. Yes. That's it. I amend my motion or happy to entertain a motion to, I guess, Carlos, if you want to clarify since you're the motion or Yeah, could we just clarify what is the amended agenda? Sorry, do I was that sent to us? Is that with the removal of 3.8 or is that with the amended agenda reflects an addendum of closed session, comments of repartement negotiations as well as a removal of 3.8. OK, so I move we approve that agenda is stated by the mayor. Second. OK, has it moved in second? All in favor, please vote with a sign of I. Yes. I. Moving on to item 3, approve of the consent. We do have our colleagues here at Cora, so I want to pull item 3.7. So say if we have some words that we like to share with you all, but council members, are there any other items that you'd like to pull out for further discussion? I just have a question about 3.3. Okay, let's go ahead and do them by order. Number 3.3 and then 3.7. We've already pulled out 3.8 for continuance. So with the exception of those two, I'm happy to entertain a motion to approve the consent. Make a motion. Excluding 3.7, 3.8 and 3.3. Second. It has been moved in second. All in favor, please vote with a sign of aye. 3.8 and 3.3. Second. It has been moved in second. All in favor, please vote with a sign of I. I. I. I. Thank you so much. And well, well, before we go any further, James, you on the remind us of the translation services we have this evening. Yes. So if you would like to listen to the Spanish portions of this meeting in English, there is interpretation available. You can use it by clicking on the global icon located at the bottom of your screen and clicking the interpretation feature and clicking English as your preferred language. I'm going to be listening to this meeting in Spanish. There will be interpretes disponibles. I can use them, making pressure on the economy of the globe and choosing Spanish as its favorite language. There will be interpretes disponibles. Thank you. Thank you. And I also want to thank the record Councilman Gochere has entered the building. And with that, item 3.3 extension of Lisa agreement for parking at the Tankledge site, Councilor Romero. Yeah, I just wanted to note that Pastor Baines came before this body to talk about about collaboration with us, the county, and we hope around using this particular site on an interim basis. And that was his functional zero homeless proposal where the county might be interested in establishing 44, 46 units of housing there on a temporary basis. And I just don't know if... And I did not have a chance to talk to Pastor Baines, though I know we all saw his presentation. He sent it to us. So I just... This locks up the land at this point until, is it, I think, is it August of 2035, can you remind me? It's a eight month extension from February 2025 to the September 2020. Okay, so it's September. Yeah, my concern is particularly since this council was talking about homeless and camp and clearing and we have that bag and tag, which is a little different issue. So I just wanted to make sure that we were still aware of that potential proposal. It is a temporary proposal, but certainly, I have no idea when the county, the city, and we hope can actually sit around and talk about this, but I thought we were, when I talked to Pastor Baines, I thought we were gonna actually terminate this lease earlier, and now it seems like it will be eight months later. I guess the question is this block construction at this point really neat. Will they be needing that site to mobilize? I know they are at this point. I don't know probably 60% complete on that project. So that's all. I'm, you know, would not want to lose the opportunity of getting 44 units of homeless housing in the city. So agreed. Staff, do you want to tackle that that question regarding the parking need versus the potential for collaborating with Roger Wheel? Sure. And I think Amy Chan, our community development director, who's having more conversations with block construction and I however, she's kept me informed on those conversations when we initially requested that this council provide block construction with permission to use 1798 Bay Road, a also known as a tanklage site for parking while they're constructing the 965 weeks affordable housing project, we imagine that block construction would need the lot through February. They've since come to our team and said that we don't have our parking structure. It won't be done in time to February and the Acts for an extension through September. So basically they expressed the desire to continue to use the lot and we are recommending to the council that we do provide them with that opportunity. I'm fully acknowledging that Pastor Bands, a month or so ago, brought up the idea of functional zero here. I also did not get to speak with Pastor Bands today. I had a miss call from him, but didn't get to speak with him. So I'm not sure the timing of his project. I only knew about it kind of in concept. I don't know the specifics of the timeline that he proposed. So without that information, we recommend it to provide this extension to block which. Yeah, so my only thing I would add is that, um, I mean, perhaps it can be conveyed to block. I mean, I don't know when the parking structure, I mean, I know it's, I mean, it's formed partially poured. I don't know if it's fully poured or the concrete placed. But if they're using it for parking and if the parking structure, I can't believe it's not going to become available before September, if they they would consider then moving into that parking structure before the end of September so that they just don't say, well, fine, we have till the end of September and they don't vacate the site if they indeed have the opportunity to park their vehicles within the parking structure itself, which is I think at this point, you know, actually under construction, I'll look at the Google map here, but so that's my only request then, I guess, because again, I would hate to lose this opportunity with the county. Other council members? Through the chair, I would just say, you for your support. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. and then following up with the past remains is going to be important on his timing. Great. If there aren't any further comments, do any members of the public have any questions? No? Let me just make sure looking at our Neil Ray's hands. All right, then I'm happy to entertain a motion to pass item 3.3. Yeah, I'll move approval so long as I, again, if staff can convey that, I think a couple of council members have said this, staff can convey that to block, so thank you. Certainly. Second. Has moved in second, all of them in favor, please vote to sign of I. I. I. Yes. Thank you. Second has moved in second. All in favor please vote the sign of I I yes Thank you moving on to item 3.7 Proclamation of the city of East Paul to declaring October domestic violence awareness month and we do have a member of core here with us I'm not sure if you'd like to come up and just say some some words or Then we can also give some comments. We know I had the pleasure of going to the gala last week and you guys did a phenomenal job and it was great to see East Okay, cool. So I just wanted to say thank you to the council members and to you and Tony of the mayor. Thank you so much for allowing me to be here for domestic violence awareness month and to raise awareness of chorus services, which are very vital to this community into our communities. Whenever we represent Cora in the community, we have a similar and all-too-frequent experience where someone after a presentation will come up to me or one of my co-workers and say, this is happening to me or this is happening to my friend or this is happening to my sister. And because this is something that is so prevalent in our communities, we wanted people to know about the services that we provide. Our services include everything from our hotline to our housing. Our hotline is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. And we also have two safe houses that provide emergency shelter for folks fleeing domestic violence. And our supportive services include housing, legal aid and mental health services as well. So if anyone watching me speak now or even suspects, they are experiencing domestic violence, I really encourage you to call our hotline number. It's 1-800-310-80. I can say that one more time. It's 1-800-310-80. And I just wanna thank you guys again for the proclamation and for standing with us in this vital work and together in partnership with the city of East Palo Alto. We will continue to provide that support and services that help survivors reclaim their lives and build safer futures. Thank you. Thank you so much and I want to highlight just a couple numbers for the record that I think is important to highlight that through Cora, 485 adults and children received therapy, almost 2,000 requests for legal assistance, 8,255 requests for service through the community overcoming relationship abuse hotline. And I understand through supervisor Corso's keynote last week, there's a divert program. You guys are going to enhance that hot line and make sure that folks avail themselves even more because we know that this is an issue that's in the shadows. So really applaud your work. We do have a proclamation to present to you and to your wonderful organization. Council members, I don't want to be remiss and give you all the opportunity to also add some remarks as we proclaim October 2024 domestic violence awareness month colleagues anything to add. Yes, I'm going to move it up. Yeah, thank you for being here. Thank you for the work that Coral does. I just want to add a few historical comments because I think East Palo Alto started about 10 years ago. We actually invested money and I think we might have been the only city at the time that we allocated measure C money which was money coming from the voters for violence prevention and crime reduction. And you know, our primary request at the time was that somebody actually be in the community, you know. So all the other services are great calling and following up but we felt it was important to have someone on site and that has been the case and so yeah so that's one thing that I think our relationship has in some way said an example for other cities and even for the county and I know that supervisor Carson noise is really kind of moved it into that direction. It put resources to do that. And the other thing I mentioned is that the way it started here was partly through the police department because often, you know, people may not trust the police feeling like, well, they're just going to come and then leave and then they don't do anything. And it thinks obviously more complicated, but at the time, we definitely involve our police department. And a few organizations at the beginning, I remember we assembled a little group of people at the beginning from the clinic, from free at last, from urban health, from a community hunger program, a few other organizations to say, you know, we got to support Kora so that they can establish themselves and connect with the communities, which I think, you know, that's what's happened. The last thing I'll say is just I'll give credit to our former chief our current chief to who was involved too, but our former chief Mr. Bardina was able to get a 200,000 anonymous donation for this project and you know, obviously that helped and and I know that since then, Kora has been trying to add additional resources, which is really great. So, thank you for your work. And I just wanted to say that, but I think we sort of took the lead in some ways, and it's been good. I think I've heard good reports. Thank you. Thank you, Council Member Abirica. Any other colleagues, Council Member Gossier? I would just, I want to echo what we just heard from councilmember abrica and I'm going to just give credit to councilmember abrica for making sure that this continued moving forward. I too call out chief pardonee and pastor prado because I remember we had an event at pastor prado's church with kora and with some of our surrounding and chief lu was there as well We appreciate your mental health services. We appreciate your partnership with our community and we're so glad that you are here in our community so we don't have to go, those who need help, they don't have to go far to get that help. Yes. But it's because of the council members who have made sure that the support is here along with staff. So again, thank you for all that you do. Thank you so much. I really appreciate everyone's time. Any other colleagues? Just thank you for being in the community. I think it's a vital service. Short and sweet. Let's see if any members of the public would like to comment, James, anyone else want to talk about our declaration of October 2024 is the Mystic Violence Awareness Month? I've seen a mirror. All right. Well, once again, it's at this point where we officially you know codify this. So I'm happy to entertain a motion for claiming this month as domestic violence awareness month. Seven. Second. It has been moved in second. All of us in favor. Please vote with a sign of I. I. Excellent. Thank you. The work is just beginning. It's symbolic, but I hope it's a small testament. I talk in appreciation for all the things you guys do for our community and in collaboration with us. So thank you. Thank you so much. All right. Moving on to item four. We do have a closed session as per the amended agenda comments. The real property negotiators, 1905, 1805 Barrow, excuse me. James, are there any members of the public who like to comment on this before we convene for closed session? Not this time, Mayor. Right. So for those in the audience, we're going to be back. I presume maybe 15, 20 minutes. Please sit tight. And then after that, we will go through the informational reports and of course, the public hearing for this evening. So we thank you for your patience guys. Sit tight. We'll be right back. you you you you you the Okay. All right. It's nice to see a nice packed crowded, not crowded, but more full audience. We're back from closed session. Look at our city attorney. We'll reject the report out for the public. Thank you, Mayor. No report of election direction given a staff. Excellent. Now is the time for public comment. This is an opportunity members of the public to comment on items not in the agenda. So if you're here to talk about the 1930 pull us or the municipal code or the loading zone, we will make sure we get to that quicker, quick more quickly. But other than that, James, do we have any members of the public who would like to get public comment? Yes. First speaker, Gina Sudario, followed by Francis Getson and Gil Wilkerson. And just as a reminder, if you can keep it under two minutes and we cannot comment on any items out of the agenda and just please be respectful as you can and other than that. Go ahead. Scants, you want to go ahead? Okay. Thank you super intended. We'll get you we'll get you next. Miss guys, just go ahead and press the button on the base. Can you press the button. Thank you. Okay. So I'm coming to the council now to appeal what's going on. Criminal attorney told me to come back to the council because I can't afford $500,000 for a lawyer. Nor can I afford $150,150 for a phone call. So let me back you up into this. So what's going on? So this is the last time I was here. Okay. So I told you guys that I've been trying to invite Norse to meetings just to meet, but Norse didn't it hasn't done that. Let me back up first. I'm back up just a little bit. Mr. Verica, I remember you. Mr. Carlos, I remember you. I remember you and you to coming to my house when I gave Mr. Dorothy Ronza birthday party and you guys were there. Mr. Lopez, I met you fighting for a nerd on that at the name change Harris. Now, if you think that I'm going to sit up there and fight for a nerd, a name change that I'm not finna fight this, so now I gotta fight everybody standing alone by myself. Lisa, I knew you said she was a little girl. Mr. Gaines, before I knew that you were a city manager when you walked by my house, I would tell you, remember, I'm so proud of you. Remember your mom would be so proud of you. So that's how I know everybody. So now, let's back up into this. So now I asked to meet. I asked to meet. So I asked to meet when I was some here to protect my reputation, because Norse ruined it. He ruined it. All my suggestion was to over a backpack, give the little kids the backpack with nothing on it. You have the little kids backpack with nothing on it, get the big kids, the backpack with nothing on it. You have the little kids backpack with nothing on it. You get the big kids, switch them. So the little, the big kids won't be called narks. So for Norris to come up to me, find me in the left the table for Norris to come up and find me and tell me. So you're like a backpack, and I'm trying to run and see this North snow. I don't even like you. And just he had a cadet with him. My story hasn't changed. He had a cadet with him. I asked the cadet, would you and your peers want this backpack? The teenager told me no. North then told me if you don't get out of here, I'm gonna tell everybody I hear a stitch. I want my reputation back. Those are threatening worlds. Those are targeted worlds. So then, Mr. Attorney, I know that you just fight for the city because you're on a side. Thank you, Lisa, for the heads up. You're on a side, you're not thinking about me. You want North to win, but North was wrong. North is for the retire. I got to stand up here. What the other day since I left the meeting my my my my wires were slashed in my car I stick around my on my car. I don't know who doing it the police department on the community. Francis I'm sorry you two minutes are expected. Yes. Yes. We will we will meet with you. Thank you Thank you next speaker Gina Sundaria followed by Gil Wilkerson and Larry Moody Francis did you get your notebook? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Most of you know me, I am Gina Sardaria, the superintendent of the Ravenswood City School District. I want to take an opportunity to speak during public comment tonight to share an overview of the Ravenswood Promise and our learner profile. The Ravenswood Promise is our shared vision of what we want to be true for students and a community action plan to help us get there. Do this work we aim to empower our students to discover their unique talents and capabilities, ultimately shaping a brighter future for themselves and our community. Over 1,000 community members have already contributed to the Ravenswood Promise process in the last 18 months, including some of our incredible students and some council members as well. Together we have defined our learner profile, the skills, mindsets, and experiences we want every student to develop. This vision isn't just about what we aspire to achieve, it holds all of us accountable for providing exceptional and transformative education for our students. To uphold this promise, we are focusing on three key priorities this year, our three big rocks, which are grounded in student data, classroom observations, and deep community engagement. The first is language and literacy. We are emphasizing the science of reading and fostering language development across all content areas to ensure all students are proficient readers and effective communicators. The second is attendance. We aim to increase student attendance, recognizing that time spent in the classroom builds strong relationships and provides essential grade level instruction that is crucial for academic success. Talent, we are committed to finding, recruiting, developing through actionable feedback and retaining the best educators who can make a difference in our student's lives. And by focusing on these three areas, we are building a strong foundation for student success ensuring that every student receives exceptional education and has the power to choose their college and career path. However, we know that we can't achieve these goals alone and that's why I'm here tonight. We see the city of East Palo Alto and our community as essential partners in this work. So we would like to invite council members and staff as well as the greater community to attend our Raiderswood Promise Community event next Wednesday, the 23rd at 530 at Cesar Chavez Ravenswood Middle School. And together we have the opportunity to elevate our schools and in turn uplift our entire community. And thank you all for your support. You have already shown whether as former students, teachers, supporters for student programs, attendees of promotions or collaborators with or collaborative collaborators with us around community needs. I encourage the council members and city staff to continue to engage with us in this effort. I encourage the council members and city staff to continue to engage with us in this effort and support the work we're doing. Specifically, the Ravenswood Promise to provide every student the best possible opportunities. Thank you. Thank you, Superintendent. Could you remind us again the date one more time and I'll make sure that. Yes, it's next Wednesday the 23rd at 530 as is a child as Raymond's when middle school got it We'll make sure and council reports to iterate that as well. Thank you James any other members of the public yes, um, the scale Wilkerson followed by mr. Larry moody Good evening, yo Wilkerson here, candidate for City Council. I like to remind you, I think I brought this up before, algorithms. I don't know how many of you know about that, but you're going to hear about a lot of it. And I sincerely wish that you had have taken me up before San Francisco banned the use of software that set prices. That's illegal and they banned it, the supervisor in San Francisco. 2016, I found out about it. This being used here in East Palo Alto. I was told by Otis James, the former general manager for Woodland Parks, and he showed me his, it looked like a cell phone where every day they go in and the market value of the apartments come up and that's what they're supposed to charge. So I figure if it's good enough for San Francisco, it should be just as good for East Palo Alto because we're smaller. The landlords are setting the prices of apartments like the one next to me, yes, I rent on this nothing wrong with that. It's $2,700. I went into it. I took pictures. It was terrible. You go to Mountain View Millow Park, same apartments, Immaculate and they want to charge $2,700 and what utilities for a stupid one-bit warm apartment because of an algorithm. And I think it's up to the council to reduce. They were reduced the rents for the citizens, 60% renters in East Palo Alto. They deserve it. And to get rid of Peter Powell, you guys know him. And because I got him in my eyes, because he does a lot of Peter Powell, you guys know him, and because I got him in my eyes, because he does a lot of little dirty things that you guys don't know about. But that should be taken care of. Get rid of the algorithms. Thank you, Mr. Larry Moody. Good evening, Mayor Lopez, council members, Larry Moody, I'm representing job training as the government affairs community liaison. I wish to thank the council and the city staff on two fronts. The first and foremost, the next week, Thursday, the San Mateo County Community College District will be holding their monthly board meeting right here in this chambers. It's never happened before, right? And it's a reflection of this community's desire to form a strong link with our educational partners, right? So we want to encourage the community to come out to participate to learn what they're doing at the San Matele Community College District. Meeting starts at 6 p.m. here in this chamber. The second is on the 16th of November. Job train will be holding what we're calling a open house at 2555 Pogas known as the the city council of our new economic mobility center which is scheduled for ground breaking in February of 2025. We want to remind the community that this project has been approved by the city council. mobility center which is scheduled for groundbreaking in February of 2025. We want to remind the community that this project has been approved by the city where really excited about reminding the community of what this project will look like, the services it will provide, and more importantly to get some feedback from the community as to as to what type of programs and training is needed for the residents of today's East Paul Alta. It's going to be a fun family engagement, right? We're going to have jumpers. We're going to have music. We're going to have food, right? It's going to be an open house environment. And we really would like the participation of the East Paul Alta bell haven't Ravenswood City school district community as well as our elected officials here. So hopefully we'll see you on the 16th the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state of I'm glad to speak to you all. I didn't know about this meeting until Ola Augment gave me a call and asked me if I could attend. And that's part of my problem because I've been trying to find out how do I connect with the city. I'm on the senior advisory committee as well. I've been coming and I don't get, I'm not getting much information. I'm also accounting on busmen, but I'm thinking about all the seniors that are at home that don't get any information at all. Aren't on their phones, aren't on their computers. Don't know how to use the technology that we're using. I used to work for the media center and record all the City Council meetings. And at least I remember that you could go back and look at the meetings. I don't even know if we're doing that with the current technology that we have where when they're like this. And so I wish we could reach out more to our seniors in the community. And my final thought I won't stay too long. I'm thinking about, it took me 10 minutes to get from my house to Pogas. I live about three blocks away in the morning. And I'm thinking about the density of our community. I've been with Robert Jones and community emergency response. Since it started here, I was a president of St. Vincent de Paul. And my father started St. Vincent de Paul here in East Palo Alto. And I think of the danger of density at this point, a friend of mine lived in Hawaii and not far from the beach when they had the fire sweep through there. And she said how people started getting out of their cars and running. I'd hate to see that here. And I'm looking at the dust too. That's falling on cars. There are 11 cars between three houses. Right where I live. And there were no cars on the sidewalks. I've got 17 seconds. So I just want to, I want you to know that our seniors are at home. There are many of them at home alone. Don't know how to use the technology to talk to you or be with you. And I miss David Chang because he was always going to be back here saying it's something. So thank you. Biggest thieves. Thank you. Those are last speaker for public comment. Thank you very much, everyone. I understand there are many members of the public wanting to speak about the epicenter. So if the council will indulge me and I'm not sure if Maurice is here, but I would like to move item 9.1 first for the sake of if staff is all right and ready for that. That way the folks who are here we have students here we don't want to make sure that they're spending all night. Again, gentlemen regarding x33 I apologize we have students here we don't want to make sure that they're spending all night again gentlemen regarding next to 33 I apologize we keep pushing your back we want to make sure we address this expeditiously and keep on meeting with that be all right with staff looking at our staff would there be comfortable with that yes we will if you all amend the agenda or just reorder things to put items 8.1 and 8.2 after item 9.1 we should be able to accommodate that and make sure the team is online and prepared to present this item. Council members, would that be all right with you all? Again, I just want to be mindful of folks in the audience and we can get to go they get to go home earlier and we'll just stay here and deliberate. All right then if that's all right with everyone I'm going to go home earlier and we'll just stay here and deliberate. All right, then if that's all right with everyone, I'm going to go ahead and move. Exercise my discretion as chair and move 9.1 up. So let's go ahead and tee up the loading zone along Pugus Avenue in front of epicenter 1950 Bay Road City Manager gains who will be presenting this item this evening. This item will be led by our Diana Tran, our environmental services as well as our public works director, Humza Javit. Good evening council members, mayor, city manager, thank you all. Can you guys hear me fine? and All right, excellent. Thank you so much. All right, good evening. Once again, Humza Javit, Public Works Director with the city here, glad to be presenting this item to the city council tonight. All right, so we're going to keep the short and sweet. Just to start us off, we're going to talk a little bit about the background and how the issue had begun and why we're here tonight. Then we're going to talk a little bit about what we've done to address the concern. And then lastly, go through a recommendation. Next slide, please. All right, so we did receive a request for a loading zone several months ago from the EPR center. There were a few concerns that they had at the site and which this request came through. Basically number one, there were issues with a lot of parents dropping kids off at the center and there were safety concerns because as parents are dropping kids off, they kids have to cross the road, get through the sidewalk and also there's plenty of cars there from the ecumenical hunger program as they're having their events. So essentially what they wanted to do is create a safe zone for a bus to park temporarily just as a loading zone so that the kids can go in and out, parents can drop off the kids and then also buses can drop kids off. So what happened was we made this item with the EPR center staff. We performed side visits and this item was taken to the Public Works and Transportation Commission earlier this year. Next slide. So at the Public Works and Transportation Commission meeting in April, we provided a recommendation to the commission, however, based on a few concerns that the commission had. The request was denied. After the request was denied, the City Council asked to initiate the review once again. And so at the September 17th, 2024 meeting, we talked about this item and the council asked staff to go back and talk to EPARC Center and come back with a revised recommendation. So we did reach out to EPARC Center staff and we discussed their request. We talked about some specifics regarding why the request was in place and if there was a middle ground to meet where we could recommend a loading zone that was time restricted and not a 24 hour parking restriction. So that residents around the vicinity would be able to park in the evenings when the EPA R Center did not have any programming. Next slide please. So our updated recommendation for this loading zone is shown here on the slide. It's essentially 60 feet of a loading zone and this is marked here in red right in front of the EPR center at the intersection of Bay and Pogas and 60 feet essentially, this is about two and a half parking spaces. And it'll be enough for a bus to park there while they're loading and unloading kids. And the restriction will apply from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. one day through Saturday. and these times and days were discussed with EPR center based off of when they have their most, their busiest events so that the use of the loading zone can be adequate. And at the same time, it would be the right balance because we would allow residents to park at night and also on Sundays. Next slide please. All right, that concludes my short presentation. Happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Humza. Council members, we have here a request 60 feet loading zone for our epicenter. We know that it's been a recent wonderful addition to our city. And of course, I understand there's also new programming. They're expecting more students and we know how congested that street already is. I myself live on Pulas and every time there's EHP coming, then you got the same. It's a bit of a dance actually when you're driving through there. And I can only imagine with more programming, how we're anticipating more, more a need for this kind of zone. But council members, do you have any initial questions? I see the members of the public, but questions to start us off with. Council member Abedica. I just had a procedural question. Maybe a city attorney can answer that. So, as was stated, this had gotten before the public and works transportation commission it was denied so then the council pulled it out and so and this is it's like a new hearing is that because that way we're not really getting into the details of what happened at that meeting we don't need to. We just need to hear what the recommendation of staff is. And they're. Yes, could you explain that a little bit just, you know, for the sake of the public. Sure, that's correct. It's an appeal. Sometimes it feels like you know it's not an appeal. It's actually a call up. So it just starts over. Yeah. Any other questions? Okay. Other council members comments, questions regarding this policy and action item. No, I appreciate it. And I know there's been some conversation about the parking lot in the back. And I just want to make sure that lot is that the students have to be processed through the front door and there's no way to process them from from the back so it's coming around on my question to about the project is it really required 10 to 6 or they're morning hours and after new hours or we are we just seeing the full day. I don't know if Nadine can answer that. Okay. Nadine, you want to go ahead and just briefly, are any members of that presenter would like to answer that that way for the Council members clarification? Yeah. You got to shout it out, actually. Yeah. And you'll have a chance to speak for public comment. We're just for second answering her question. Thank you. So for the amount of time that we're looking at, we have both daytime programming as well as afternoon programming weekdays. And then on Saturdays, we have programs starting at 9am until 3.30 currently. However, the plan is to expand in 2025 and early 2025 to include more time and serve more students. So without the ability to safely get them into the building, we are calling into question our ability to expand. And so that's one of the reasons why we wanted to advocate for a longer period of time, because our growth plan is too aggressive. I think you all remember what the plan was for epicenter that was presented before the pandemic and we're trying to get there. But right now we are at a certain size and that is only because of a couple of issues. Obviously, arts organizations were hit quite a bit after the pandemic. A lot of organizations went out of business. We were all fortunate that we did not, but we did get hit. And there is continuing implications for the field of the arts as a result of what happened with the pandemic. So it does take some time to get the resources necessary to actually ramp up for a facility of that size. In addition to that, we need to secure additional funding in the other areas where we want to grow. And so we have been working on that and building our capacity, and we're about to launch. And so therefore, it's critical for us to have, to be able to operate in the right way. Thank you, and I know, our mayor mentioned about EHP, and when they have food programs, those lines can go really, really long and it will impact that road as well. So making sure we're partnering there. And then next, I would, my question is about the neighborhood that's right across the street. What type of communication is happening with those neighbors just to make them aware that this potential change is coming because it will impact their parking as well? That's you, Dan. Yeah, staff want to tackle that. If you saw her, Melon. Yeah, I could to tackle that. Zahar Melvin. Yeah, I could answer that one. Yeah, so we we will be coordinating, you know, as the parking restrictions fall into place, we will be communicating with the neighboring community. We will be sending out notices before we start addressing like any citations, you know, there will be this period where we will coordinate with the police department and ensure that no citations are issued for a for a period like a transitional period. But again, yeah, we intend to erect the signs up in place and then, you know, as we're doing this before, I guess before we erect the signs, we've an order of the signs, but notices will be sent out to all the neighboring community. So they're aware of the the restriction that's coming up. Thank you. Thank you, Councilmember. Councilmember Meta-Metal, do you have any questions? Okay, then maybe at this time let's go ahead and go to the public. If they like to add any questions or comments, not as a chance to advocate or give us any further you know testimony about this project. Concerned so James, who do we have to start off? I believe Ms. Rambo had some names. So, okay. So obviously because it is a school night, we were unable to get as many parents here as we would like, but some of them have already started writing and those who came left us notes for me to read. My name is Julietta Bravo and my daughter has participated since epicenter opened its doors three years ago. She loves her art classes and that's why I'm here to request a drop-off zone which is safe and convenient for kids, parents and the community. The back parking lot at the epicenter doesn't feel safe. It's dark and empty, so I tend to park closest to the front area, but some evenings I pick up my daughter late as there are no empty parking spots on the street. Some evenings, mostly with the time change, even my daughter feels unsafe walking back to the car. I hope you allow our kids to feel safe and happy after their wonderful classes. Next one is from Emily Himines. JJ and Daniel, my sons, a 10-epic center on Tuesdays and Thursdays, picking them up and dropping them off is concerning to me and it is darker earlier now. And I don't feel safe as a woman getting out of my car with two little boys walking through the streets. There's no staff to control and keep watch over this because there is a long road that leads from epicenter to the parking lot and it goes beside a homeless encampment. Please help reduce our fear and be proactive with this change. Do not wait for something bad to happen because I would be devastated if something bad happens to my family. We have a petition here as well that was signed by 40 parents that were happy to submit but I think also what might be impactful is to hear from the parents who were here tonight as well as some other students. So I have a first speaker Alicia Gutierrez, followed by Gail Walker-Send and Dune Femme. Good evening, everyone. Oops, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry about that. My name is Alisa Gutierrez and I have two kilos at the AP Center and I would love for you guys to approve that petition. I do drop off the kilos during 4 p.m. when they go to the programs and I picked them up at 7.30. They do stay there until 7.30 p.m. sometimes I do not have the time to go and park all the way in the parking lab. I'll be working some of the time and I don't have the time. And I, it is not the safest to go and park in the parking lot. There was a time when something happened in the park and the parking lot and I was not, I was feeling really safe parking in there. So I would love if you guys can think about not just me, but all the families that go in there, yes, it is hard to find parking. The street is always busy. Cars are driving crazy in there. So just think about when we're driving in there and dropping off the kids. If you were a parent and thinking about all the wonderful things that the program do for the kids, and they are just thinking about where the wonderful things that the program do for the kids. And they are just thinking about where would I park and draft the kids in there in a safe place, in a place where the kids do wanna go every day. My kids go there Tuesday, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. And they love to go in there. And sometimes it's just hard for me to be driving around and my kid that girl that you see sitting over there hates to be lay for class. She says if I'm lay for the dance class I'm gonna be not the best dancer in the class so she has to be on time so for me to be driving around and I be able to drop off on time, it's hard. Let alone not feeling safe. So please do consider giving us those few hours during the day. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, Gil Wilkerson, by a Dune fam. Evening. Grinch Gale is here. As you know, I'm on the public work commission and we came to decision. People want what they want. And we decided that that parking lot in the back is not utilized. I personally, I went down Polgis one day, make a right hand, I thought the lady had broke down until you need help. No, I'm in a line for the EHP. And then I came down, Polgis, you know, we have a lot of cut-through traffic. And I was sitting there, and sitting there. It was people being left out to get out or get into the cars from that EPA center. So people weren't what they want. That parking lot in the back is not being utilized. And if they're fear, you know, they're safety, light it up, higher guard. You have to make adjustments. But you can't inconvenience the entire community, especially the people who live across the street. You've got to think about them. I would have been pitching a Hissy with the EHP because that's violating those people's rights. So that's why we came to that decision. They want to pick up, pick up safely in the back, and it's getting dark, put more lights out, higher security guard. You can't interfere with the quality of life for thousands of more people. And we haven't even tackled the cut-through traffic coming down through Paul Guss. Those people don't, they shouldn't traffic coming down through Paul Guss. Those people don't, they should be coming down through there. They should be ticketed some kind of way. License plates, readers or something. But that's how come we came to the conclusion. Special treatment for one entity when they can cure it themselves by adjusting and utilizing their great big parking lot. I've been over there and they can process the kids from the back door. They have a back door. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, doing fan of followed by Ethan, uh, arena. Sorry, I was having trouble with the. Good evening. So I have a question to make. I'm one of those parents. That's my son. He attends the EPA Center and I do get a little stress and so I'm driving a little reckless, parking, double parking, doing all the stuff that sort of is endangering. And I think as much as I am aware and conscious that I should be better at this, but you know, it's human practice, children are around. And so in a rush, it's hard to kind of slow down sometimes. And so I illegally park to cross my son. He's also stressed because he wants to be on time. So I think you know when you have a school setting because this is what it is. It's the service provided to the community. And art is very important because it really does develop the brain other than you know doing academic Ravens school would school district has had problems in terms of providing an enrichment, you know, academically, I guess, test results. So I think this is another way of providing enrichment to the kids and it's an important assets to the community. So I think that having a safe drop off zone for children, you know, accommodating parents that, you know, do drive a little recklessly at times. I think safety is priority for the kids. And it doesn't matter, you know, the inconvenience. It's not really that big of an inconvenience when you're talking about the lives of kids, you know, and, you know, in the future, having a safe area. So I think it's a priority that should be taken to consideration and treat this EPA center as a school drop off zone. And I think in terms of saying, you know, a bus load, there's a lot of parents going in and out, you know, so maybe you can extend it around the corner and utilize, I think, you know, that drop off zone on is a bay road going and having the outlet of the traffic flow would flow nicely to go into the parking lot to do the UE and come back out. That way you're not trying to do a three-point parking and all this other crazy stuff on that little corner. Thank you. Next speaker, Ethan Avina. Um, adding to what everyone has said, um, that parking on the back, it's not safe at all. I've had friends who go to the class and there's dogs on the other side of street that run to actually and go and bark at them, even going as far as trying to attack them. Also, I tend the EPA center. I'm a student there, but I also teach a class. And it's very difficult for me to get there on time, especially as a teacher having to go teach that class, being there on time is something that's required. And it's very difficult for me, especially because of all the traffic, there's never parking and just having that space available, because most parents drop off takes like a minute at most. Just having that space available for parents to drop off and pick up students would be very helpful. And it helps to the safety of students. I have a younger sister. Whenever we're trying across that street, some of the drivers don't even stop at the stop sign. They just fly by and it's very difficult and unsafe for the students. I don't think it could be a huge inconvenience. It's two spaces of parking, as they said, two and a half. And then that EPA center has provided so much for me. It's allowing me to kind of see what's outside of this school, just academic, academic isn't everything. There's a bunch of arts, there's a bunch of programs that they provide for me. And there's, I've been with them since before COVID. And the student growth has been huge. They have so many programs, so many classes, so many teachers there. And I think just having that space available for parents to be able to drop off and pick up students would just be great as it is something that is almost necessary for the student safety. Thank you. Thank you. That was last speaker for tonight for this item. Okay. Thank you, everyone. I want to thank the families, the students, members of the public who voiced their concerns, also support for this. I'm back to my colleagues. Council members, what is our, well, first of all, are there any remaining questions regarding this project? Yes. Council member, Cadi, I was going to say that I think, I think this is a reasonable compromise by having a low-need, non-loathing zone, limited in time. I mean, I can see the argument of the parking lot because there is parking there. But, you know, when I first went to sort of check it out on this issue, it reminded me of Brentwood School on Clark. This goes way back when I was on the school board and I think we worked with the city at the time to try to do something because it was very dangerous and people were just not able to drop out their kids and a big congestion. And at the time the school had, anyway, you know, I got resolved in a different way. But I think currently it does, I think, create danger for the children and the young people and everybody. And so having, having at a limit time, I think we'll alleviate that. And maybe in the future, down the line once all the programs get going and stuff, there could be other ways to utilize the parking lot. But for now, I feel it's a reasonable compromise to have a temporary spot for that. So anyway, I would be in support of this. Thank you, Mr. Eberica. And while we're putting things on the record, I want to, our vice mayor did, she's not able to make it tonight, but I want to make sure I read her statement. It's fairly brief. She says, this is Vice Mayor Barraghan. I fully support the proposed policy to create a loading zone along Pugas Avenue in front of the epicenter. On the night of September 27th while tending to stop the hate awards celebration, I parked at the rear of the center and walked towards the entrance. During this walk, I encountered a man near the corner of Tower Road who loudly sang and displayed inappropriate behavior. I felt uncomfortable and relieved when my husband and son met me halfway. As a mother, this experience may reflect on how I would feel if I had to drop off my child at the rear of the epicenter instead of the front. I will be deeply concerned for their safety. Unfortunately, the current layout of the parking lot does not prioritize ease or security. A front-facing drop-off zone is more appropriate for several reasons. Number 1. Staff availability at the front. Number two, quick and easy drop-offs and pickups. Three, better lighting for greater visibility and security. I urge you to prioritize the safety of our children and community members when making this decision. There are well-being should be at the forefront of our planning. Thank you. And I will say I agree. I think that part of what's also important in this discussion is the vulnerable demographics at play. We're talking about youth. We're talking about mothers. We're talking about folks at night. And you know, given the smallest of our city and the different demographics were serving. I think this is a, as my colleague said, it best a good middle ground and certainly as the epicenter projects growth and as the dimensions of that corner what is our vision downtown right that's there's going to be a lot of flexibility and flux and we have to be able to adapt and be nimble so I am in support of this and I will stop there. Colleagues do you have any further comments or questions on this? Councilmember Gouche? Sure. Thank you again. My only other questions are security. If you have a loading zone, tell me how this is going to work so that you don't have cars parking for a long time. Will staff be out there to make sure they're removing traffic and that parents are not. That's the main thing, making sure that parents are not parking. And I don't know if that's the staff's responsibility to figure out how long to keep the traffic moving. Otherwise, I think this is, I agree it is important. And ultimately, when funding comes available, we will be able to utilize that back parking lot and process students through that back parking lot and put more additional lights and security features there that will make sure that the youth are protected. Youth and families. And while we're at youth, I wanna just lift up, I think one of the comments by the young man, Ethan struck me, he said, the epicenter allows me to quote, see what's outside of that school, this school. And I think that's really important when you think about the service, this center is providing, particularly for our youth. We know that the arts and youth led organizations are a dire need for the city. And it's a great boon. And of course the challenge is space and the proximity to all the different land use we have, but certainly I think these two and a half spaces are 60 feet is a great way to accommodate and foster the exact kind of testimonies that Ethan had this evening. My other question before I consider the environmental is the enforceability. Humza, you mentioned there's going to be a provisional period. What are we thinking about in terms of that grace period that we're giving folks before we start to site and site individuals who are violating this parking zone? Yeah, so after council approves the item, we will work with our maintenance staff to order signs. And then, you know, it's work with our maintenance staff to order signs. And then, you know, it's about a month before the signs go up. After the signs go up, we will be talking to the chief of police, you know, chief Jeff Lu. And I believe, you know, 30 to 60 days of like a kind of a grace period. And I think one of the comments raised before was actually the really good one. So if EPR center is able to within this transitional period have a staff member out there during certain times of loading and unloading and some of their programming so that you know they can they can talk to the parents and tell them hey don't park here. This is a loading zone. You know it's not for parents to keep their vehicles parked there. I think that might be a good idea during this transitional phase. But yeah, about 30 to 60 days, make sure that you don't issue citations. There's warnings issued. But again, finally, we do have to enforce because we don't want people to park there permanently. Thank you, Hamza. Councilor Mittell, any questions, comment? Yeah, Hamza, could you answer Councilor Mungo go, Shay's question about what's the duration of the parking, the time to park there? I mean, will it be a 10 minute or five minute, just to make sure that we're not having a 30 minute loading zone or something, but it could be problematic. Oh, you know, yeah, there's, that's kind of the discretion, you know, there's no certain like, you know, we can't enforce like five minute ten minutes more like parents have to respect the loading zone. The enforceability of it comes in when you have a vehicle parked there for an extended period of time. So like, you know, when it's it's actually clear that there's a vehicle parked there and it's not being used for loading and unloading. That's when the police department can actually enforce the law. But if there's someone's transitioning and parked there to get their kid in and out, I think it's a matter of more like, it's a matter of being there and just kind of assessing the situation before the police department decides to actually enforce. Yeah, so here's just that I'm generally in support of this, but here's a situation hypothetical that I think is probably going to occur is somebody comes, they're going to pick their kid up, they're going to park their thing, they go into the building, find their kid, they're going to be there 20 minutes, 30 minutes looking for their kid. And so that is of concern to me, because I really think that this should be, by the way, you're taking up roughly speaking about four parking spaces. The reason I say that is the average car, right? A mid-size car is about 15.6 inches or 15 feet, six inches. The compact cars are closer like, you know, 12. And then of course the trucks are like 20. So it's probably between three and four spaces that you're taking up on 60 feet. I mean, that's in front of my house. An average house in East Pado Alto is 50 feet. I know for a fact between my driveway and the corner, it's about 75 feet. And when it's really tight, you can get five cars in there. So basically you could actually get four cars parked here, which I'm willing to sacrifice, right? If this thing is used correctly and people are like moving their kids through. So to the extent that I mean we're able to say, you know, and I've seen, I thought I saw loading zones in, in Pado Alto in alleyways that say, you know, loading zone next amount of time, but I mean monitoring that would be really important because it would be a really bad habit to get into for a parent to come there, get out of that car and do their thing. If that's the case, the parent should park in the back and walk around because the parent should be able to manage that little distance. So as long as I think we can kind of get the operational logistics piece down with you informing parents, I think this, this, you know, makes sense. It sounds like I was also thinking as Councilwoman Goshin and I are going to have in sync today. You know, is there any way to reduce the hours from 10 to 6, but it sounds like you're saying, optimally, when epicenter is running, you do want to have programming throughout, you know, that entire time. So you don't have the programming now, but you're moving in that direction. So let's, yeah, I think the 10 to 6 will work for now. Okay. Just one quick comment about the timing of the loading zone. So the California vehicle code does allow us to add time restrictions on the loading zone if we decide to do that. So if council gives us the direction of adding a time limit, normally a loading and unloading zone within a green curved area is about 10 minutes. So that's what the, you know, again, California vehicle code allows us to do that. So we can actually erect signs that specify the 10 minute. So the council gives a direction. We're happy to do that. Yeah, though, I can also see times when it's an event in the caterer is there 20 minutes, but no, they do the back. Okay, good. All right. So, and that's yeah, I think the 10 minutes words go into my colleague, customer, I'm going to go. No, you know, just at this point, because I am remembering back to the example of Brentwood, which is not exactly the same, but this is a smaller operation compared to the whole school, right? But I think, and I'm sure you're thinking about this, but I think it is very important to educate the parents. You know, I'm serious because all of us, and any 10 parents are going to be one or two, maybe who like whatever, right? But we don't want that to happen. And, you know, I do remember the example at the school that the school had a very difficult time, and they really had to ramp up their educating their parents about what this was, what they should do and should not do to jeopardize even other people. So I'm sure you'll do that, but that did remind me of that point that parents had to be educated. Obviously, this will be a good thing. I'm sure they'll be happy, but to make sure that they know. And the same for us in this, from the city to let the neighbors know, you know, way ahead of time, et cetera, so that they also respect that and don't, you know, clash with that. But I mean, I don't know as far as putting a restriction of binits, I don't know how you can enforce that. I mean, well, the sign, yeah, yes, the signage, right? The signage, I think, but I think the key is educating the parents and if people cooperate, then it can work. I mean, I think that's, to me that's the key. Councilman Goucher. And lastly, I wanted to make sure I say, when I travel and I talk to other cities, people are so proud that we have art center. There's so many cities that do not have what we have. So we wanna make sure that we're protecting, but not only that, our library is going next door to you. So they have a loading zone, and we're still going to have youth that will show up there. I think it just makes sense. We just want to make sure that no one is parking there for a long time. So thank you. We're so excited to have an art center in our community. We're proud of it. Paul Gieser is actually one more Zoom speaker. So I'm going to public comment before we proceed. Yes. Thank you, Jameson. Mr. Sean Ripley. Hi. Can you hear me? Yes. Hi. Yeah. I am Sean Ripley. My daughter has been attending the epicenter arts academy since it opened. We do walk there. So we have to cross Pogas Avenue. The stop sign at Pogas in Bay seems to be for many people to be optional. It creates a lot of danger for people having to cross. Just this evening, a car did stop on Pogas. Right at the stop sign to wait to pick up their child at this is at 730 and another car was coming very fast got very impatient went into the other lane and then blew through the stop sign to make a left turn from that lane and all of that happened while my daughter and I were still in the crosswalk. So having a certain amount of space for cars to pull off to the side would be very appreciated. I'm also a resident of the neighborhood right across because of the limited ability to pull over and safely drop off kids at that, that Paul Gistor. A lot of extra traffic and into the neighborhood. And if the if epicenter in the city do need assistance with reaching out to residents of the montage neighborhood myself and public works commission or Chris Gow are both residents and we do the lion share of communication for the neighborhood so you can always reach out to us and we can make sure that a male or get sent out to every homeowner and resident. Thanks for your time. Thank you. Those are last speaker. Thank you James we're back to the council. Good to hear also about some potential outreach opportunities from our montage neighbors. Council, if there are no further questions or comments, I'm I'm even approval of the authorizing resolution with the addition of the 10 minutes duration for party. Second. It's been moved and seconded. All in favor, please vote with a sign of I. I. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone, who tuned it, who waited patiently. The students, the parents, folks in the community. It really means so much. And hopefully this will alleviate some of the congestion and give the epicenter some much needed assistance as you expand your programming, which has been the vision of this council in the city. Okay, all right, so we did some shuffling here. Looking at our staff, are we ready for the, are we still doing the informational report for 6.1? Yes, we are, is it 6 or 8? We need for a fourth information. 6.1, yes. Okay.1. Yes, we are. It's a six or eight. For four conservation. Six point one. Yes. Okay. Great. So I think you're getting everybody have a good night. We are. We are. If you want to state it, we're going to talk about our summer parks activation. So very much youth led or not. We're going to be now talking about the activation update. Mr Baker. Good to see you, sir. You're going to be delivering this I presume. All right, yes, that is correct, Mayor. All right, take it away. Thank you, sir. Thank you, members of council. My name is Maurice Baker. I am the Community Services Manager here representing our Community Services and Recreation Teams, small but mighty. I, as Mayor said, I'm going to be here speaking about the results from our 2024 Summer Perk Activation Program. So if you can all see my screen here, I've got some wonderful photos from this past season, this past summer. So people having good times out on the bay trail. You know, it looks like Jack Farrell Park seniors taking a trip up to I think it's either Hockone Gardens or Hagiwara and then also we have some youth from Episinter here. So just to kind of preface everything before I jump into it I'm going to give you a little bit of background. I'm going to talk about you know previous numbers and then also get into the programs who are who participated this past year as well as then his then provide you with the results. And then we can talk about things coming up for next year in the future. So right. So 2019 Council directed staff to react to eight parks just because they're beautiful spaces and it produces vandalism in our residents need activities and things to do. So we were told to do that through partnerships and other strategic methods. Every year since then Council has steadily invested resources that have allowed us to collaborate with as many as 17 organizations, a lot of them local. So we're not only just serving the community and youth and seniors and families, but we're also looking at serving small businesses. At the end of 2023 Council did approve 10 organizations to continue programming this year just because it is, it is, we will show them that it reduces and has been successful in reducing illegal activity in our parks and facilities. So this photo here is some of our seniors getting prepared to take a trip. previous years. So as I stated 2019 2020, $65,000, $5,000, you know, that was the first year right before COVID came in and knocked us out on our behinds a little bit. From there 2021 all the way up to 2023. As you can see the more that council has invested, then the more residents that have been served. So, this looks like there. The programs that participated this year were Camp Dosa, East Pawl Alto Razorbacks, East Pawl Alto T-Ball, Impicin machine, who then partnered with Revis with Little League, EPAT, Live in Peace, My Gym, Science Gypsies, Step It Up Dance, Street Code Academy, and YCS. So as you can see here, they all have descriptions next to them. All right, so for results, these are the numbers that we did receive from organizations in terms of participation in the past three years since they've been involved. Street code has always kind of kept a very high number in terms of the success of their pop-ups. YCS has really been stepping up as of the past two years they came in with their pop-ups as well and then they also do some leadership and service opportunities. So these are the numbers. If you go back, if we go back and look, 815 was that number, that previous number, 1821 is the number this year. I did just want to put it into this disclaimer that some of these numbers do include duplicates. That is because in the past we've been able to scrub data a little bit better through receiving the participation of participant information and then that would allow us to remove any type of repeat participants. However, we did not get that from a few of the organizations this year, but it is safe to say that we have exceeded at least 1,000 unique participants in the summer park activation this year. So that is a great news for the city. How it's done. So basically it's a 3-5-month process. We release the RFP that goes out to organizations, provide organizations for about a month-long process. From there we receive all the proposals, then we review them, make recommendations, and then host interviews with the organizations and then from there to vet them it goes to council for your decision. After that we go through an onboarding process, contracts, scope of work, revision, you know marketing communication all of that because it takes a lot of time to prepare a marketing plan for multiple organizations and how you wanna get the word out to the community. Some of the challenges I think that we have faced in the past and we have spoken about it openly here and I counsel is the lengthy insurance approval process. A lot of our small businesses and a lot of small businesses, sometimes run up against tough requirements that protect the city, but are very necessary. So, they try to work with their insurance brokers, and we sometimes get involved working with the ARC, but their insurance brokers are city attorney's office. Does it have a major heavy lift involved in this? They evolve, they've been open to communicating directly with the vendors and then they're in service brokers to find answers. It's something that we're always constantly refining. But I do want to say, as it's time says, your teamwork makes a dream work because we couldn't do this without the different departments that we work with and it's not just community services, the finance department. They're always impacted. They're constantly in a situation either in budget, audit or some area. The city's attorney's office does quite a bit as I said through the contract process. So we can't do it without them. So I just want to say thank you to that. And then you know our public works team who helps prepare and make sure all of our spaces are continually beautiful and accessible. I really just can't take my hat off enough to the people that are working for the city. And then just really talking about limited staff capacity to not overburden other departments and divisions. So as I said, if we don't strategically plan these things out and put them on people's calendars, there's so much that gets in the way or there's so much that the other departments have to focus on. So it's kind of, it causes a little bit of a, what is the word term I'm looking for. It ties up resources a little bit, but at the same time, everybody has been committed to getting it done. So that's kind of how the process works. For the future, our recreation coordinator is coming on board or using our own board, but we're adding some new metrics to score applicants. If you remember in the past, there were a few organizations who came to council and expressed that how did they get access to these wonderful opportunities and resources to do programming in our parks when they're new. In the past that number kind of the metrics that we used weighed heavily towards those who had already participated. But we are changing that up this year and putting a little more emphasis on things, on giving those who are new providers a better opportunity. A higher level communication to our residents. It is our goal that we are going to release the RFP here in the next coming weeks. And then that way we will be well ahead of the game in the past. We have normally done that in January. So hopefully no later than no vimperes when we will get this out to the public ahead of time. More lead time for marketing. So as we get things out earlier, we'll be able to bring it to council. And you can make your decision on the organizations you would like to see, participate in the certain 2025 summer park activation. And then from there, you know, the future with the future holds is hopefully having a that youth commission be the decision-makers for the programming that they want to see in the community. So those are some of the changes that we have coming down the pipeline. All right, with that being said, thank you for listening to me. Hopefully it wasn't too long and I will open the floor for questions if you have any. Thank you, Mr. Baker. We know the excellent work we've been doing to spearhead this. I want to personally thank you for the work you've been doing in your staff and it's also wonderful to see how the programs expanded over the years. More organizations receiving support increasing the funding because we know there are some great organizations that are going above and beyond and going beyond the scope of the summer. So in a way that naming is almost misleading a little bit at this point because we also go to the fall and so forth. But count numbers, any questions or comments for Mr. Baker for his presentation? Through the chair, Maurice, thank you for this presentation. I know you and I have had some conversations about the insurance requirements. We're looking forward to getting ahead of this next year so that everybody is ready to go and they're not calling Sam waiting for my check. So thank you for all that you do. I know it's a heavy lift. I'm looking at the city attorney. Everything goes through his office but making sure that people understand those insurance requirements and why they're there. We have to make sure that the city is protected. But again, thank you for all that you do Councilor Mabirika. Thank you. And insurance too. I'm sure You know, I just I was thinking if Maybe all the different organizations that end up getting a grant could Pull the resources for a summer insurance. I don't know if that's You know, I don't know if that's, you know, I mean, because this has been every year, it is kind of a problem, you know, and at some point we got to find a solution because it's like, okay, here comes the next headache and why? No, if there could be a way or somebody started an insurance business in town and then just do it. You know, I'm serious, you know, because it's like, this, yeah, I just, I was thinking about, so maybe it's something like that could be explored. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought of that, but some way in which, you know, what consolidates insurance somehow, and pull their resources, rather than the organization's apparatusroariness as silo. If anything, I think the city has helped to sort of bring them together, even do more coordination, not duplicate their programs, you know, that kind of stuff, which makes a lot of sense. So that was one thought. I don't know, the city attorney's got any thoughts on that. That's something we thought about. That's something we can ask the risk pool about. What we've talked about more specifically is if there's a way that we can help sort of facilitate the purchase of the insurance, but then also build it into the grant funding. That's what we've talked about. But pooling is something we haven't talked about. We can certainly ask the years has been great. You know, one suggestion I would make only because I think that the whole senior services area, it's evolving, it's getting better. But I feel like the senior center, since they were not a grantee, right, they were not an organization that received funds, but I really do feel like they should be joined planning or at least from the very beginning, they should be joined communication and input and from the seniors, you know, I'm not necessarily talking from the senior center, ink board or whatever, but with the seniors who go there so that, because I noticed there was some disconnects, you know, just being honest, because I was in it, some disconnects that create sometimes some misunderstandings and the last thing we want to do is stress out the seniors feeling like, oh I don't know what's going on in that. So I strongly recommend that for the next year, there be some kind of joint planning ahead to at least get the input. And then I think things will keep expanding. So, but yeah, thank you very much for the report and all the work that everyone's done. Thank you, Maurice. Thank you, Mr. Badecah. And on the built-in insurance point, I mean, I know for my program, a Stanford, like they give you this opportunity to wave the insurance if you can prove you have insurance. Otherwise, they cut it from my stipend. So, and an incentive rises you to say, okay, like, let me pocket the couple thousand they charge me. So maybe a system like that, I mean, where they'll receive the funding, but there'll be 5% or 2% of a portion allocated for the insurance and they can get it back if they can find some way to, and that's going to help them long term because all of these organizations, the struggle, and I'm sure in the epicenter, they deal with this and making sure all the partners are, if I will see three, have the certification. We know that our small businesses also sometimes lack, so we wanna make sure our folks have all the proper accreditation. And so maybe this will be the carrot that'll get them there. So looking at John, looking at our staff, if there is a way we can kind of encourage our folks to like I said, get their paperwork in order. As Councilman Goshear says, or sooner rather than later, is the only agendaendum I'd add to the conversation being had. Councilman Romero, any comments or regarding this? Any members of the public would like to comment on our summer activation program? James, any speaker cards? I'm seeing none, Mayor. If not, Mr. Baker, one again, applaud you for your work, the staff. This is one of my more favorite pieces since I've been on the council to see this grow. And certainly you mentioned a little bit in the slide, but the illegal activities and the correlation between getting these diversion programs for our community and the reduction of some of this activities, I think is great to see as well as a number of benefits. So thank you, Mr. Baker. Thank you, staff. Let's go move on to item 6.2. This is a report on the East Pawl also sanitary district organizational and operational strategies the council will recall the public will recall on October 1st the city officially took it over took the sanitary district over as a subsidiary Mr. Gaines I understand will be giving a short report since then So I just want to thank you for the opportunity to be able to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to take the opportunity to the city's governance of the sanitary district. So I'll have brief comments and encourage everyone to read the report for the nitty-gritty details. This is day 15 of the city taking over governance and leading operations of the sanitary district. Every one of our single staff members are counting. Oh, and probably some of the community members as well. But it's a day number 15. And we kind of have categorized kind of four areas that the city is doing to take over the Sanctuary to run day to day operations. I mean those categories are one, continuing reliable operation, two, informing key stakeholders, three, evaluating existing operations, and four, like planning for the future and developing long-term capital improvements. As far as continuing reliable operations, we just wanna make it clear that we are doing the day-to-day operations of the sanitary district amidst figuring out how to operate it. We didn't have a good transition period before we took over October 1. We somewhat went in on day 1 and had to figure things out. Sansa, you know, won brief meeting a week prior to the city officially taking over. We have a utility manager who we brought on, prior to this transition, and they have been doing the day-to-day operations. They work from 901 week streak in the sanitary district offices, focusing all of their time on the office operations, as well as overseeing the field operations, the people who clean the pipes, etc. We are still using EPA SD staff that there are contractors, five people who are the field operators as well as four people who are in-house, three who are kind of office assistants, one is an IT person and we also are using their accountant who is a contractor as well. So I guess that's five. As far as informing key stakeholders, we just wanted to make it clear to regulatory agencies as well as partners that ensure that the city is officially the governing body and giving them the heads up about that as well as letting them know that under city control will be making frequently communicating letting them know when something goes wrong if there's a spill so there might be a spike in the volume of Reports that they receive as we are going to be steadfast about sharing any information anything that is unveiled if there's ever a spill, we will be reporting it. But then also letting them know about our plan forward, how we're going to assess the existing system, improve the existing system, and have a plan for that. Speaking of the existing system, we're looking at staffing needs both in-house as well as out-house. We have contracted with West Bay Sanitary District to do the day-to-day build operations and maintenance. They've been great thus far as they staff up to be able to take it on fully. They've been coaching and guiding the existing EPA SD contractors to do things the way that West Bay does them and have their protocols as far as their response times Leave EPA SD used to have a two hour response time. Well now that's a 45 minute response time EPA SD had certain cleaning protocols now the people who are operating or doing West Bay's protocols and doing things more frequently cleaning the hot spots They're now doing, um, it's actually significant to say, uh, fog, that's oils and greases. So all the restaurants, if you do receive, if you're listening and you receive a communication from West Bay Sanitary District or the city or EPA SD, letting you know that we'll be doing fog inspections. I believe EPA SD has done them every two years. We will now be doing those biannually or quarterly. So, don't be surprised if we come and ask you for your documentation on the last time you've cleaned your greece traps and things of that matter. And this is all related to the system running more efficiently, help them to prevent blocks and blockages within the sanitary sewer system and keep things running smoothly. We are also working on bringing the sanitary district into current state requirements related to the sewer system operations, as well as the emergency response plan. And we've contracted with a entity called Fisher Compliance, which is a, the, Prince Pull is a former State Water Resource Control Board employee, but he retired and now helps sanitary districts and other utilities ensure that they meet all the state requirements. So we're contracting with Fisher compliance to do the SOAR service management plan, as well as the spill emergency response plan. And finally, kind of developing a long-term plan. We are reviewing EPA SD's existing pipeline condition assessments, as well as evaluating their existing master plan, and we'll be creating an updated master plan in relative to that updated connection fees, as well as updating and evaluating the annual soil charges. With that all stopped talking, I encourage everyone to read the lengthy report and I'll open it up for any questions. Thank you, Mr. Gaines. Council members, any questions or comments regarding our city manager's report? Just wanna thank you for all your work. It's a lot to manage to organizations and you along with the staff, you guys are doing an excellent job. So thank you for all that you do. And I will iterate, I think we said this last meeting, but whatever, you know, this is a black box where entering in terms of the spills, the leaks, we're not sure the scale of the issue. And so in so far as whatever additional support, I'm sure, borrowing any objections from the council. I think you should ask for those and make sure that future councils accommodate that because this is it as councilman go share said a new endeavor when barking. And so we want to make sure we have the capacity to do so, particularly as all eyes are on the city to do a good job and improving the system for all our rate holders. Other council members. of the Consumbers? That's what I'm talking about. No, I, no, again, thank you. I know it's been a, I can see why you're counting the days, you know? I mean, really because hopefully it'll start easing into another stage, but that's good though that each day has been very important and it will continue to be in the just transition. So thank you very much. Just a minute. I don't think I've just, you know, one, one step at a time and again, the council has said that if additional resources are needed and, you know, if we don't take them to the sanitary district, we have to take them from some of our money. Let's just make sure we get this thing done because we owe it to the community after 43 years to make sure that we have a fully functioning sanitation district, sanitary district that is integrated into our into the city and that actually, you know, brings back entitlement authority into the city and, you know, that provides the appropriate service that our residents truly should get. So thanks for counting the days. I'll also add perhaps one suggestion. There was a lot of information particularly during the petition and campaign. It might be who the residents to receive updates. Not everyone is getting the reports. So mailers, newsletters, because again, there was a lot of information back and forth. And my some residents, I know many residents, when the campaign occurred, we're asking what's going on the Santerly district. And so I think just to clarify, what is the game plan for the city? What are we intending to do in the next coming years? Many of the things you mentioned, so something to consider for you and this. Thank you for that suggestion. One is to thank each of you for acknowledging the work that we're doing. And also for offering additional resources if needed, we're still evaluating what resources will be needed. And we definitely will be coming forward to you all to ask for anything that we do need. It's very important that we do this the right way and give the community the source service that they deserve, like we try to do with everything else. Related to informing the community, we are gearing up to send out a meller to every EPA SD customer. So that includes those people who live in Minle Park letting them know about this transition as well as the opportunity to apply for the advisory committee, which we will begin recruitment for. I believe next week the city of Minle Park will be accepting applications because they'll be appointing at least one member to the committee. And this board, the East Palo Alto Sanitary District Board, U4 plus one, will also be appointing for people and an alternate. So we're sending a Miller to every customer, every East Palo Alto customer, every Mennel Park customer. And that will include information on the transition as well as the advisory committee opportunity. Excellent. If there are no further comments or questions from my colleagues, James, maybe we can just see if his members of the public would like to comment about our Lucidia Managers report. So we do have a comment from Mr. Jeff Page on Zoom. Hi, this is Jeff Page with Ravenswood Chores Business District. I think you all are do a immense congratulations. The City Council, the staff and the community for finally having the integration of the East Palo Alto Sanitary District into the operations of the city of East Palo Alto. It's really a great accomplishment. And thank you for all the efforts you put into this. That all being said, I appreciate as well, the comments of Antonio, the mayor, excuse me, about keeping the community informed about the integration. I think this was a community effort to have this occur, and I hope that the integration as well as a community effort. And please do not hesitate to reach out to us in the Ravenswood for assistance and collaboration to the degree which is helpful. Thank you very much. And again, congratulations. Thank you. Those are only speaker. Thank you, James. If there are no other comments left before we transition to the next item, I also want to give a shout out to a former Mayor Moody. I know that his one of his last pieces before he transition was to push requests for Lafko. And so certainly this work is not just the effort and the product of this current iteration, but previous iterations of the Council. I want to just go on record to thank him and other stakeholders who made this possible as Councilor Meta-Metal said, this is a decades-long effort in the making and certainly we want to give people their credit where credit is due. So thank you, Mr. Moody. Moving on. Thank you, Mr. Gaines. We appreciate I appreciate the updates and I'm sure the public does as well. Moving on to item seven, pre-special presentations. There are none. Number eight, public hearings. Gentlemen, thank you so much for your patience. We are now moving on to conforming. I'm not going to read it, but the 1933. Holgas. Dance break. the three Pogas. Dance break. Take a recess. Turn this on. And. To make sure you are still awake. All right. Again, as I was saying, this is item 1933, Pogas Avenue. Resoning. Mr. G who will be presenting this item? Senior planner. I couldn't think of your title, Salifu. So, Jakobu. It's like senior planner. I was going to call you planning manager, I almost gave you a raise. Sorry, Elena. All right, Lena is with test for Moot. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much, Siri manager. Good evening, Miss Amia and members of the Siri council. The plan manager, Elena is with us remotely and she would chime in when the need be. Tonight we bring you a zone of appointment application for 19th-Tetret Polgaz Avenue. It's a 2.5 acre property on the west side of Polgaz. This project was previously presented here as a pre-application. The pre-application was also presented at a community meeting in a Plano Commission study session. The pre-application included a design concept on which the Plano Commission provided input. The commission's input led to a significantly improved concept design, both design options were presented at the July 16 City Council study session. The Council feedback on the pre-application was generally supportive, leading the applicant to file this application to amend the Zonum map. This application is re-ZonEM and not a development permit. If the City Council approves a re-ZONEM request, a development permit and subdivision map would be subject to Planner Commission approval before any development takes place next slide. Okay, so the City's Artwork Policy classifies Zonum up amendments as complex projects which must go through a pre-application process. So the policy has several requirements for pre-applications, including notification of the neighborhood and nearby nonprofit organizations, the host of community meetings, plan on commission and if necessary, city council's decisions slide. And so let's talk about the pre-application that this project went through, in keeping with the council outreach policy. Fest and in-house community meeting was held on March 21st at the WI MCA building. Second, the planning staff held a development review committee meeting with our partner, development review divisions and and EPA as the at that time. A plan on commission, steady session was also held in April of this year. And then subsequently, a city council city session was held on the 16th. Following the pre-application, the applicant felt a formal application which went before the Plan on Commission on September 23. The Plan on Commission recommended approval for two nice City Council consideration. So for background, the subject property is 2.5 EKS and is outlined in red, a dash red line. And as I said before, it's located on Pugas Avenue, just a little north of East Bay Shore Road. It has the general plan designation of medium density residential. This designation allows townhouses, residential flats, and other common interests, medium density developments. It is Zoned R-M-D SubZone 1, which was developed several decades ago with a grocery store. Ford Wellens is shared in a warehouse which has since been demolished. Slide. warehouse which has since been demolished. So the subject property is located in the neighborhood that contains single-family dwellings, mobile homes, high-density residential apartments, and a number of properties that are zoned mixed use. To the north, we find the parking area for the Palo Mobile Estates. And then there are single-family dwellings of the University Square Plant Unit Development. Single-family houses, a mini storage, an entire shop, which are both zoned mixed-use corridor one and two allocated across Pugas Avenue to the east. Non-residential properties within nutrition supply store in Metro fabrication business in a barbershop are located in South and all those are soon mixed use corridor one. The hallou mobile states and lettry apartments are located to the west. And so at the pre-application statistician, the city council expressed a preference for the original two and a half-acre puzzle to be subdivided into two lots. Following the subdivision, PASIL 1 would contain the existing garden supermarket, which would be re-zoned from RMD subzone 1 to RMD subzone 2. The other less desirable option would have been to not to subdivide but to split zone the entire property which are the console didn't opt for, the console opted for a subdivision or the property. So what are the differences between the current zone and the proposed zone and districts? The RMD zone one and the RMD zone two, obviously subzones of the R.M.D. multiple-family medium density residential zone. Both zones, however, allow a wide range of multiple-family residential developments, including duplexes, triplexes, quadplexes, townhouses, and rowhouses. There are however two main differences between these two subzones. The first difference is the maximum hydroquirement. The existing subzone one has a maximum hydroquirement of 30 feet. The subzzone to which this project is proposing to resume to would have a height of 36 feet or three stories. The second difference has to do with the development density. Subzone one has the development density of 15 to, I mean 12 to 15, dual enguinespa eca. Subzone 2 has this development density of 12 to 22, dual enguinespa eca. So there's an increase then in the maximum density from 15 to 22, dual-linguene spectraica. It should however be noted that both subzones are consistent with the medium density land use designation of the Vesta 2035 general plan. Therefore, a zone of amendment from sub-zoone 1 to sub-zone 2 or vice-versa is what is termed a conformant reason and does not require a general plan amendment. So now the question is whether the subject site is a good location for the RMD2, I mean RMD subzone 2 designation. Is it a good candidate honor? One approach to answering that question is to identify the two desks. And then compare the educational characteristics with the subject property. Based on this research which we did in the Planet Division, we realized that the city has seven block locations that have this RMD2 zone and subzone 2 zone and designation. Most of the seven blocks actually front on vast transit routes. Most of them are in the vicinity of mixed use or high density zone properties. Next one. So I knew the table before you is a little busy, but it summarizes the location characteristics of all the seven block zones that I mentioned in the city that are zone RMD2. And it basically compels them with Poulgas Avenue, 19th-Titre Poulgas Avenue, which is shown in red. So comparatively, the subject site appears to be suited to high intensity development because of a number of reasons. The first is the enhanced accessibility. It enjoys to three major streets. Pugas Avenue is Beishore Road and US Highway 101. Not a lot of properties have access to all three transportation facilities as this one. Number two is its proximity to high intensity developments like the luxury apartments. Number three is its adjacency to properties that have a mixed use zone. Number four is it's it's proximity to shopping. It's not too far away from the gate we want to one shop and center. And the number five is its location. it's the gateway location. It's the southernmost gateway from Palo Alto to Ispal Alto. Next slide please. Next. Okay. So now let's zoom in on these seven locations. And so the first one is on the east side of Clark Avenue between O'Connor Street and Tensley Street. You know there are very transit routes available there. The express in 8-1-9-296. The second one is the north side of Donahue Street between Kooli Avenue and Clark Avenue and that block from the express line as well as 282 and 296. Now the third one is on the east side of capital Avenue between Donahue Street and Ranemi Street. Almost two blocks and there is no direct transit route in there but it's within walking the distance of transit route. Number four, x. Number four is on the north side of Renemies Street between University Avenue and Glen Way. This is another one which is not directly, does not directly front on a transit route. Number five is on the south side of weak street between Kool-E, about 200 feet west of Maple Lane. And we have a bus number two-nine-six. Number six is the south side of Beirut between the University Avenue and Glundwe. Available transit lines, X-rays, 9, 281, 296, 397, and then 2960. Number 7 is on the north side of Beirut between Dumbarton and Glundwe, and there are also four transit lines there just like number six. So the subject site is uniquely located at the Syrian southern mous-geet. We adjacent to mix-use zones and close to high density apartments in Shapan. In time, the mixed use properties are going to redevelop to higher intensity uses. The mini storage, for example, in the tie shop and for mix use. And the development of this subject site could be a catalyst for the eventual development of this gateway, and the RMD2 zone would be a compatible zone and designation. The mix use zone and designations allow a much higher density of development. They would allow 22 to 65 mix use corridor zone and districts. Next slide. And this is my, this is going to be my last slide. And then with the permission of the mayor, I would have the applicant present a couple of concept designs that would illustrate the sort of development that would be considered for this site if the City Council were to approve this reason. So development under the current zone, based on the city's required 20% inclusionary housing requirement and upgabble density bonus laws would yield the following. 38 total units, including six affordable units and 33 market rich units. That is if this property were to develop under the current zone. By absorbing the property to RMD2, the development would yield 58, up to 58 dwelling units, 10 affordable units and a 48 market rate units. However though, the developer has indicated a willingness to implement a project with 30% affordability. Instead of the required 20%, Apple Gunters willing to do 30%. And in doing so, the developer Yieldwood could go up to 62 units and out of the 62 units 14 units would be affordable and 48 would be market rich units. So this scenario would provide each more affordable housing units compared to a potential project under the current zone. Now, so this would conclude my presentation. And then Mr. Mayor, the architect Riyadh is here, and he has a couple of slides to present to you. If that's OK. Good evening, Council members. I'm very pleased to be back here again. And I have some slides to present. So I'm on the zoom. So let me just try to remember if you can remind me, sell how I share my screen. I'm on the zoom, but I don't see, I'm not sure I'm a panelist. Is the screen we're seeing the ones you're going to show? Oh, it's on. So just just just tell James. Yeah, when next slide, please. Yeah. Okay. And you'll click it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh. Um. Let's see. I. Let's see, I think I'm just guessed. Okay, let's see. Well, like G-town, 1933. 1983. Okay. No, but ittown 1933, 1983. Okay. No, but it's 1933, Paulgas. Oh, here we go. Okay. I see. Partner technical difficulties. Let's see. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not really sure how to change my, my name. My name, yeah, let's see. Triple dots. Yes, triple dots, keeping chamber. Um, there he is. He's a guess. He's not a panelist. That's why. Raise your hand. Raise your hand. Oh. Yeah. Because you weren't 1932. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. I guess I do. And then let's see. Okay, yeah, I think. Yeah, I might have to do that. This is part of the grading criteria for the own project. But just I did much better last time. I really did. This is not my first rodeo here. So I should have a better handle on this, but I apologize. Um, I, uh, yeah, do you have it? Okay. Okay, great. Well, thank you again. I'm pretty beat. Thank you. That's fine. I'm pretty beat. Actually. Thank you. Sorry about the technical difficulties. And my name is Riyadh. I'm the principal at RGR Techshire and we're on the design architect for this project. And thank you again for having us back. We've been working on this for over a year. And we are talking about the rezoning of this lot as Sal had described in great detail. And so that's the topic of the conversation today. However, as the architect, clearly we have a vision for this and there's a reason why to rezone it. And basically, similar to the mission statement of any organization, we have kind of a mission here, we have a goal and it's to, we wanna maximize the possibility of providing high quality, affordable and market rate housing for this property. And it's really to make this project real. I think we can do it if we, the re-zoning is going to help us in that sense. So next slide please. This presentation, I'll go through it relatively quickly. There hasn't been a tremendous amount of changes from the last time this council has seen the project. It was really more dramatic for the planning commission, which we recently attended. A lot of the changes we made from a design standpoint were based on their input, although there was input from this council too that we've recognized and included. So this project, in an effort to provide, to meet our mission in providing high quality housing for East Palo Alto, we've listened to the council, we've listened to the commission and we listened to staff and the community and what we've done is we've created a more diversity in this project. Most significantly, we've adjusted the massing of this project and the garage is underground, which was probably the most dramatic change from the original onset of this project. There was some comments to reduce the height of the building and that was kind of where the garage underground came from. But we also wanted to meet the parking requirements. So although we are asking for a rezone and to build a medium density project in this location, we are still trying to meet the parking requirement. And then the last comment that we thought was significant was to green the project. There's many green features on this project, but one of the most important is that we're really providing ample landscaping space for this project. So just a little bit about it. It's 62 townhome style units. We think that that type of design is a nice transition from the single family neighborhoods to some of the higher density buildings around the site location. We are providing the required amount of East Palo Alto's parking and, sorry, and ample landscaping and will include on-site amenities, including indoor and outdoor community use spaces. And this is new construction. It'll be code compliant, energy efficient, and sustainably oriented, including things like solar, on-site, PV, and storm water management. Next slide, please. So, I think you're all familiar with the site. And so, this is the area outlined in red is what we're trying to rezone. Next slide. Sorry, I have to switch over to the lower resolution. I think the higher resolution. Okay, resolution, my computer could not handle it. So, I'm open the budget for next year. We're looking at tech improvements. I see reserved. Like having three people, three buttons, you know, like Silicon Valley, you know, just kid. Yeah, so this once it kind of loads up, you can go to the next slide. Yeah. So just again, a little clarity on the extent of what we're trying to rezone, it's the area in purple. Next slide, please. I'll go briefly through these. So this is really just a little bit about the process and how we started with kind of this idea of how do you fit these town homes on a property like this and what is the right fit and then how do you organize it so that it creates a livable community. It meets the standards that we need for, for example, fire department access, emergency vehicle access, trash collection, all these things. So it sort of transitions into one larger mass and then broken down into more of almost subdivisions of this greater project. So we have on the street frontage from Pogos you would see four blocks of houses in this case. Next slide please. And then there was further refinement to break open that these masses a little bit create plazas that reach from the front to the back of the property. It brings in more light and it creates more openness and generally just reduces the mass of this project. Next slide, please. And then as we discussed kind of most significantly, we put the garage underground that reduces the height. Sal mentioned that the height limit with the rezone is higher, but we're actually building to 30 feet in the back at this point. And the front is higher, but we're actually building to 30 feet in the back at this point. And the front is at about 40 feet, but that's to the peak of the gable roof. The rest of it is at about 33 feet. Next slide, please. And then we created areas for pedestrian access, emergency vehicle access, and the garage access, and the garage access is in the center of the project. Next slide, please. Then the last thing was just playing around with the facade a little bit to create. Again, this sort of sense of diversity and further reduce the perceived scale of the project. Next slide slide please. Even the low res version is hard to load, yeah. Yeah. Good. Good to just. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for the report. Well, I conclude. Well, you know, just I'm curious. What did we were missing out on one of your elevations? Is that what you were? What, what? You know, I think the really the most revealing thing is to look at just the end of the presentation, just some visualizations of the project. So, I mean, I'm really happy to skip to that. You've seen the project. It hasn't changed much. And ultimately, we've been going through this process, like I said, for over a year. And that's fine. It all resulted in a better project. And I think that my feeling is that this is a project that fits well on this site. It's going to work. We've worked with the city and we've worked with other departments, not represented here today, but like the your fire department, for example, your public works department. And we really want us to try to bring this project forward as a reality. I think it's going to be an asset to the community. And it'll provide 62 new homes in this community. And these are family oriented homes where there's multiple bedrooms. And it's just, I think it's the kind of project that we're working in other communities and this is what we're being asked to do. So, the reason is step one in making that happen. So, yeah, I think I'll conclude there and just take questions. So. No, thank you, Riyadh. And again, I'll just say apologies for the technical difficulty. No, I bear some Riyadh. And again, all drug society apologies for the technical difficulty. No, I bear some responsibility for that too. So as you said, it's all growth, right? Council members, a lot of information. This is a rezoning decision from an MD one to an MD two. I'm heartened to see that to develop, you know, invested in, you know, 30% percent of 20% I think that's a good faith. Council members, any questions, comments to start the discussion? Yeah, I would love to get started. Thank you so much. I thought you were still standing there. Thank you so much for your presentation. You know, as I live not far from this location, I am concerned at the number of units we're opposing for that area. And if you are trying to get out of East Palo Alto in the morning to get to work on any given day, traffic is often backed up beyond the Galaria way, trying community. I think that's a lot of the community. I think that's a lot of the community that's in the community. I think that's a lot of the community. I think that's a lot of the community. I think that's a lot of the community. I think that's a lot of the community. I think that's a lot of the community. I think that's a lot of the community. It's an urban oriented development. It's we've worked in San Francisco where we've done developments like this. However, we did one recently that was in the Excelsior District of San Francisco, which has a fabric not unlike where we are now. It has single family homes and then some multi-unit buildings. But I do recognize that the concern here, it's been brought up many times that traffic along Pulgus is a big concern. And we have taken that to hard, we take it seriously. And in that sense, we have a that to hard, we take it seriously. And in that sense, we have a couple of mitigations that we're offering. Number one is we are proposing to extend the sidewalk and the bike path that do not exist on our section of the block right now. Granted, does that make a significant impact on reducing traffic? That's debatable. We have a traffic consultant who's actually following this meeting now and he can address specifics if you'd like. But these are measures that we think are future oriented. This is the idea is that we can't, this project probably can't fix the traffic problem on Polgis. Will it add to the traffic problem on Paul Gus. Will it add to the traffic problem? So significantly our traffic report that we have enlisted this thus far doesn't seem to indicate that but I'll let you hear it from our traffic consultant if you'd like. I would love to because if you're talking about multiple you know family units you're gonna have people with kids who are trying to get to your kids the school people are trying to get to work. It will, I don't see how it doesn't add to the traffic. And it's just that one way in and out of that area that is just an impact. We know we need housing. We want to think about the quality of life for individuals who live in that area as well. Certainly. I would invite my, I know our traffic consultant is on the Zoom meeting. So yes, it's Gary Black from Hexagon Transportation Consultants. And we invited him specifically because we know this would be a topic that would be important to the community. So I'll let Gary take it. Yes, thanks for your time, members of the council. Yes, we did complete a traffic study for this project at this zoning stage. Another traffic study would be required when a specific project comes forward. However, our initial study, it does acknowledge that, especially in the morning, the traffic is very heavy on Pogos Avenue, getting to East Bay Shore does back up past this site as Council member has described. And certainly adding some housing units will create more traffic. The question is really how much traffic would it add and can that be tolerated or not, which you know is up to the I guess council to decide. I will say that with this number of units, then the amount of traffic that that would be generated would not be enough to really to creating noticeable change to the operations on Polgocere space or in other words before and after you would really notice no difference just because the project is in our world this is a fairly small project that doesn't really generate much traffic. And so it doesn't really, it wouldn't really create a noticeable change to existing conditions. And I would like to see that a little bit. I hear what you're saying because it's not only going out when it's time for people to come home, they're going back on Pogas and they're trying to make a left into their property. So I don't see how there will not be an impact. There has to be some impact at some point, but I understand affordable housing is important. We just want to make sure that we're being mindful of our residents who live here and the ability to get in and out of the community at any given time. Well, if you'd allow me to elaborate a little bit, you know, as you say, the, since the residential project and the predominant direction of travel is outbound in the morning and inbound in the, in the afternoon or evening. So the traffic would be leaving the site. Most of it turning right on Paulggas to head towards East Bayshore. It would rely on gaps in the traffic on Paulgas that people would have to allow the traffic to do that. When it's coming back in the evening, the traffic is much lighter on Paulgas, and so that's not really a problem. It would be to make a love turn into the driveway. The operations are really, it's much smoother flow in the afternoon. And I, sorry, I lost my turn in the thought, or did you have another question? I do that to most people. Oh, sorry. I just got my thought back. You did ask, you did ask about You know, how much maybe the sense of you know, how much traffic is too much East Palo Alto does have a standard for what constitutes enough traffic to be of concern, which we call contributing to a traffic deficiency. That's kind of jargon-y, but I think you get the idea that somehow we have to draw a line and we have to say, below this line, we can live with it above this line, then it's a concern. And this project is below the line. It's shown in the traffic say that we prepared, the amount of traffic that would be added would be not enough to get to that threshold that's been established in East Palo Alto. And I can provide a lot more detail if you want to really get into the nitty gritty details, but that's the basic conclusion. No, Gary, thank you. I think if you talk to the residents of East Palo Alto, they would probably not agree with that and would have some concern. My next question would be because you're going to hear more about traffic and its impact to this region. I am glad that the project has included some space in between buildings and is a thought to could probably put some smaller like grass areas where people where families can come out with their animals and children and actually have a place to kind of come being and come together. Yeah, absolutely. We have some visualizations of that. Maybe we can pull them up. No, yeah. But yeah, the intent is that we're opening up the project to create these areas of gathering within the project. Each unit will have its own private open space that then abuts some common open space. And then there's some areas that we've really designated for common use. And yeah. So the idea is that it functions like the units kind of function like an individual home, a town home, but then they still share amenities with the larger development. I may come back later. Okay. Thank you. Councilman go share and if I may, I mean, and this may be premature, this isn't a question so much as a suggestion, I know that for nine six five weeks, and also for the light tree apartment, we had a committee benefit whereby for the first three years, for instance, we gave vouchers for Sam trends for ridership. Perhaps that's something we can because again, I think as councilman Gosher said, a forehousing is a need. What can we do to encourage folks to increase ridership? I'm glad to see that you guys are increasing the bike lane. I live on that street and certainly you have to zigzag your way to the other side. So no question about it. That is a good benefit. But I think something that I'll put on the table is also how do we incentivize those future tenants or folks, excuse me folks, we're going to live there to use the Sam trans transit. Again, there has been a model that we've seen in other housing projects. Obviously, this is a smaller scale, but something that they think about, sort of think beyond the zero sum game versus housing and transportation. How can we meld those together to alleviate some of the concerns? Colleagues, other customers, customer, Abedika, customer, customer, member, Romero, any further questions, thoughts regarding this project? Gary, I have a question for the traffic consultant. But by the way, this development is about 29 units to the acre. Roughly speaking, it's 62. Well, yeah, it's because it's 2.12 acres. We've lopped off the store, right? Yeah. So it's like 29 units to the acre, which is not a particularly dense development, actually. I mean, we have projects that are 70 to 90 in certain places. Of course, they're much taller. I think you tried to mitigate, again, height by going below grade. But to, to, to, I believe that's the hexagon consultant, are there any lane modifications that would potentially help the outgoing traffic. And again, I would tend to agree with the traffic consultant that 60 units is not going to break this. If I was coming in and out, it's not going to, you know, completely, you know, break down the flow of traffic. One, not all 60 units leave at the same time in the morning, right? Not all 60 units come back at the same time in the evening. So, but again, back to Gary and the traffic lane configuration piece. Is there anything that perhaps getting closer to East Bay Shore, you know, Flo can can improve during the morning? I don't know. Some sort of lane or something. Well, the I guess the short answer is no, which I'm very, you know, sad to say that, but really East Palo Alto was suffering from a regional problem that you have a lot of traffic on 101 that's congested, that's causing people to seek alternative routes. So they use East Bayshore and the backup on East Bayshore actually goes is what's going on to Purgas. So really if you wanted that to flow better you would need to address East Bayshore. There's no way to really address it on Purgas. And then that would involve some sort of scheme working in conjunction with the city of Palo Alto, because it's really, you know, where the problems are occurring that back into East Palo Alto or in Palo Alto, and also on the freeway. So it's more of a regional problem. I will say that there was a comment about, you know, bus passes or some way to reduce traffic from this project. This project will be subject to the city's TDM requirement. And so a TDM plan will need to be prepared to show how the trips will be reduced from this project over what they would normally be. And that's a requirement of all the development in East Palo Alto. So, in that sense, I think the city you are taking positive steps towards addressing the traffic issues to the extent that you can as East Palo Alto and subject to these more regional traffic issues that are impacting East Palo Alto. Are 40% compliance number doesn't apply to the housing side, correct? I think it's a modified number, I believe, isn't it? I mean, it still applies to them. It just doesn't apply. I believe as it at the same level as a commercial kind of office project. My understanding is the 40% applies to residential as well, but there are other people at this meeting that know a lot more about the city policies than I do who could better answer that question perhaps. A mayor if I may. You may. I went a lane-or-ly planning manager. I wanted to just clarify for TDM for residential projects. The city has devised a point system that is supposed to put the equivalent to reductions of trips and so for a housing project with 10 or more units that they have to meet a minimum threshold reviewed and approved by our TDM consultant and our engineering staff. And so projects such as this would have to provide a minimum number of points and that could be done through a variety of of measure such as transit passes, car share programs. And so in that sense, by putting all those features together should be equivalent to a significant reduction of trips. Thank you. And that answers that question. You know, I didn't get to see all the massing, but I think you're saying the highest point is a 33 foot at apex of the roof. Is that correct? It's higher. Okay. What would 40 feet, five inches to the apex of the roof, just the front. The back is flat, the back being... Right, what front on to the... Well, Paul goes, yeah. But that is to the, you know, gable. That is the very top of the gable. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And then what could you, again, give me the parking ratio for you. I may have missed it here, but what is what is this part that? This is the well, let me see what the ratio is. Or we have okay, so we we have a total of... Rian, I think it's parked at 1.5 a unit, right? At 1.5 a unit, let's be... Well, we have a total of 133 bases. So the dense bonus law allows these projects I lost these projects at 1.5 unit, but they are the chosen two spaces per unit. Yeah. Okay. Um, you know, I would, uh, I have my brothers, I would try to chisel you down the fewer and then say the savings should be split. But yeah, I mean, because you're doing, if you guys are doing one one 30, one 35, you said one 33, one 33, I mean, because you're doing, if you guys are doing one, one 30, one 35, you said, one 33, one 33, that's, yeah, that's two parking spaces per unit that is, that is more, should be more than, and then some, yeah. Okay. So the off street parking thing is going to be a lot of an issue for this project. This is, this is, this is all off street, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, the on street parking issue is is is not it's not an issue. But it's as much for this project because of it's because of its two two per unit. So okay. All right. Thank you. That's I didn't realize it was at that that high of a ratio. Thanks. Thank you. Which is which is a good thing for your project because you're not dumping cars down to the street. I would for to see fewer cars in the city, but at least we know they're going to be parked under the project. Yeah. Yeah. It's a mixed bag. I would agree with you. Yeah. I mean, we do we do projects with no parking, right? You know, but it's it has its you know, it's's, it's very context dependent. Where are we building it? And what are the patterns for people to move around? And although this has some transit, this is still a transit-oriented area, it's not as transit-rich as some other areas where we would significantly reduce the parking. Right. All right. Thanks. Customer and Beverly go do you have any? Okay. Why don't we open it up to the public and see if there's any questions or comments regarding the site of you? So have one speaker Ms. Gil Wilkerson. And if other folks want to comment just go ahead and fill out a speaker card and we'll get to you as well. Thank you. Question. Why are you guys still listening to the hex song? Where are they? But okay, 44 years in real estate. One thing, if you go to new housing developments, what do you see there? You see them putting in roads first. That's what you're supposed to do before you bill. You put the roads in. You guys are not working on egress and egress. You're not doing that. And that's what the traffic problem is about. And now you just approve a loading zone in the middle of traffic. It's going to cause a lot of hecticness. I asked about the exit from Dunbarton Bridge to off to 101, Oregon, first grade, and Mr. Briegel said, we gave up. You know, he was beating us up. And you know, stop it. It wasn't now. There was no city before just for the record. Okay. Well, you still turn it isn't here there. You can still say something. And you have to start at the root of a problem. And the root is is that you don't get the roads right. And you don't research the laws to see what you're entitled to. And there are a lot of laws in the book saying that they can't just put 101, will a road, bayfront, and then you're supposed to accept it because you're a little city, you get cut or something. You're supposed to put the roads in there and then build. And that's why we have so many problems. I remember being on a supermarket task or what Richard Tadom and he came to one of the meetings and he says, I can cut it off. He said, give me the word. He put a roadblock up there. They can't come through. Magic, no more traffic. What's stopping you? Combine yadness with people who don't even care about is Palo Alto? Cut the streets off. And before you build something, build a road. Look into it, putting that exit off a Dunbarton bridge and shoving all that traffic up Palo Alto's tiny. Thank you. Next speaker Isaac Stevenson. Mr. Stevenson go ahead and proceed. I guess I was supposed to come to this meeting. I normally haven't been here. So I'll just start by saying I've been looking at this for years. I grew up here in the early 50s. There were no cars on the streets. The gardens were single-family homes and people put their cars in the garages. I have three houses right where I live. 11 cars. They've extended and I've looked on maps even on maps and I know my neighbors have ADUs but you can't see them on the maps. The people across the street have ADUs and you can't see them on the maps. It took me 10 minutes to get three blocks over to Pogas just to go to to go to a doctor's appointment. And I have three emergence. I've worked with certain Bob Jones since it has been here in our community. And I have three ways to try to escape out of the community. There's nothing in my house worth my life. I don't think we'd be able to get out of our community right now. And again, the Cagardans with single family homes, no two story homes at all. And the density is what's going to get us. And I'll just stop by saying I had a friend that lives in Hawaii when they had the fire passed through there. People were getting out of their cars and running. I'd hate to see that happen here. Next speaker, Dixie Lee Street, East Palo Alto. I like the concept of this, the building, everything about it except again, the streets. I think there's a huge problem. I don't know how you fix it. But the hexagon said in the morning, I even think it's worse in the afternoon now. I don't know how you fix it. But the hexagon said in the morning, I even think it's worse in the afternoon now. I don't know why, but it seems to be really backed all the way to Embarcadera and even on to coming that way. And I don't see how you're going to have a space that people are gonna allow to turn in to the buildings. Are you going to build a light there? Are you going to have stop signs? Which means you have a stop sign at e-space shore. You have a stop sign at, well, it's at oaks now and then on Connor. But you've got a lot, sorry, is are people going to stop to get in and I don't see how you're going to get into that complex from polgous. on the other side to let you in unless it's not the heavy times of the day which is both morning and evening and very heavy on the evening. So I'm not sure where he you know he was talking about mostly it's the morning but if you look at it it's both and very heavy in the evening. So I don't know how you fix it, but I really think that needs to be looked at before moving forward is how can you mitigate that issue in some respect? Because I don't even see how they're going to be able to turn in or out if they're going at those times of the day. It's not going to happen. Or even other times. I'm not sure people are going to let them in. So that's what I would say. It's a big problem. The traffic would be the biggest issue. Thank you. Next speaker Mr. Cortscherner followed by Danita Churchill on zoom. Hello. I have to agree that this, we, we, we, if we're really going to do something like this, we have to have a much better handle on how to handle the traffic, which means we need models. I don't know what, how to do a simulation to really figure it out, but it's already sort of out of control and adding even 30 more but never mind 60. And of course, they never come out exactly the way we think they're going to come out. You know, a nice two kids, two adults, one car, typically, you know, six adults, three cars, four cars. And just they just add up. And maybe at some point we got to say no more room in this city for people. But, or maybe we can just go with just bicycles and little scooters instead of cars. But we got to get more creative than this, because this is just standard size, nine brown planning that isn't planning for what we're dealing with here. So I'd say we're back to the computer. Used to be the drawing board but now it's the computer. Thank you next speaker Donita Churchill. Oh never mind. That was are last speaker. I think she put her hand. Oh, there we go. Mr. Churchill. Hello. Yes, can hear you. Hi, hello, council. My name is Deneeta Churchill and I live at 1730 Bay Road. My question is if there are 68 units, how do you propose the garage? Will they be attached to the condominium or the condo? How many cars and once again, how will you accommodate for multiple cars when it comes to parking? That's all. Thank you. Thank you. Those are last speaker. Thank you. The applicant want to address some of the questions raised, and then we'll go back for a discussion. Yes, hi, Danita. So I'm Riyadh, the architect, and your first part of your question was the parking attached to the units. It's one parking garage under the building that's shared. It's a common parking garage. That makes it far more efficient. And subject to the requirements of East Palo Alto, generally what we're doing is detached parking. What that means is the parking is not necessarily bought with the unit. You can buy the parking separate. So some people might not want a parking spot and they get a more affordable unit that way. And so that's required in some areas. I'm not sure if that's required in East Palo Alto, but if it is, then we would conform with that. And only in that case would it be that maybe somebody could buy one unit, but maybe by multiple parking spaces if they needed it, whereas somebody who maybe just needs one parking space instead of two could only, you know, would only buy one or have an option to buy none. So I hope that answers the question. Okay, back to council council members. Randy, for their comments, uh, councilman, go share, would you like to add a question or comment? No, I mean, thank you for that. Because as I think about to need this question, then there has to be control for the parking garage. If you're monitoring or if you're selling spots to each unit, right? So is that that will be taken into consideration? Thank you. Mr. Chairman, maybe I can help with that a little bit. Sure. So the type of parking that he was talking about is what I recall, unbundled parking. So under that scenario, each unit is still going to be entitled to two parking spaces. And this normally happens with rental apartments. So with the bundle parking, if somebody did not need their parking, then the association would be able to sell the unneeded parking to do's that need more parking. But the unearness of the parking will still have face right of refusal and most of the time the sale would be on a month to month basis. Now we don't have unbundled parking in our development code at this point, but we are planning to bring it to the City Council sometime early next year for your consideration. The state passed a legislation that, it's included 10 counties in the state that would do this abandoned parking as a pilot project, but some material country was not one of them. However, I think this city council has approved a bundle park and before for some projects in the past. So it's something that we'll be bringing to the attention of the council, but at this point, it's not in the development code. Thank you. Thank you. So other council members, any further comments, questions? I think for me, as I think about this project, part of, and this is similar to the RBD, how much of it is the onus on the developer versus the city? And, and I think part of the discussion we had is, unfortunately, it is a regional issue. I mean, much of the problem is, like, university, Pulgis is cut through. And we're not benefiting from that. And so how do we localize? If there is going to be congestion, how do we localize it? How do we mitigate it? What are the infrastructure improvements we can make? I think that's something that's a yes and right? I do not think it's the only of just this project address it. However, there does need to be a proportionate responsibility much like the way we think of impact fees. So I think that that's the framework I'm putting into this discussion. And those are my comments thus for on this MD2 rezoning colleagues, what is our pleasure? Consumable? Yeah, I was going to say, so the traffic mitigation issues are not going to be dealt with here today when you guys go for full entitlements, right? We will be having hexagon come present to the planning commission, the planning commission will be going back and forth and saying, you know, maybe you do need to put in some sort of turn lane. Again, you may have 62 units there. They're not all coming out at the same time. That's not the way parking works. Right? You don't have 62 people coming out at 8 o'clock in the morning in 62 cars. Right? It is staggered throughout the day. In hexagon, can help model that. I don't know if I want to get bogged down into the traffic issues right now. I think that the council, just because we approve the subdivision doesn't mean that the project is approved yet. I mean, you guys have a long way to go and you know that. You've been doing a lot of developments in different places. I think that a 29 unit density per acre is a reasonable density for the CTVs puddle. We have actually on week street, I think, a higher density than that. Is it weeks? Is that the affordable housing development? Yeah, it's weeks. Yeah. No, no, no, the one that, not Page Mel, but Sandhiel was doing. Yeah, that's that's that's that's the five story. Yeah, great. And so that that actually probably hits a density closer to 60, breaker. It is senior housing, but nevertheless, it's dense. So I think 30 per acre is kind of reasonable and works within kind of the urban fabric. In addition to that, and this is maybe counter to what Kourt is saying, we have a state mandate. Let's make it real clear. If we don't produce market rate of affordable housing, I can say everybody up here has been a champion for affordable housing. While we've been here over 450 units of affordable housing have been approved, built and or are in the process of being built. That is pretty damn amazing. Right. I pat myself on the back. But on the market right side, which we are required to provide, area it. Right? Let's make that really clear. The law states that we have a regional housing numbers that we have to meet. And right now, you know, actually, the only thing can get built these days actually that makes economic sense are these town homes. We do have a 550 unit development on the west side that is moving forward. It appears that they are going to move forward and get their full entitlements once they can figure out what their sanitation district fee is, but their sanitary district fee is, which it wasn't this outrageous $9 million fee. So I don't, again, I think that what's proposed is not particularly out of scale. It's proximity to East Bay show where I think is important. It's not as if you're going way into the heart of the city. And I don't even want to mention the 30% affordable piece because I think that is important. I think, again, at the planning commission, you're going to work that out, right? I mean, the fact that that, and that is a, that 10% is a significant community benefit. But just in terms of the subdivision, I don't think this is an outrageous number in terms of density for that area, approximate to, as I'm saying, e-space shore. You know, we'll see what Hexagon says. or that area of proximate to, as I'm saying, e-space shore. You know, we'll see what Hexagon says. We'll see how we can go back and forth. What are the mitigations that are required by the project? You'll obviously be contributing to some of the improvements that we're making. And then the other thing, as Alena said, is, you know, we do have the TDM program that will work with the developer to make sure that there are sufficient points that are acquired by the development that will kind of reduce that impact on the streets. So I'm inclined to approve the subdivision, right, or the zoning change. And of course, we will be revisiting these traffic impacts during that entitlement base. So we're not approving a project here today. I want to make that really clear. And the developer knows that as well as the architect. Thank you, Consumereboro. Consumereboro, yes. I mean, I think definitely we inherited a horrible traffic condition because of Dunbarton. And so in this case, I do agree, I think, with what Consumereboro met us saying. This is a zoning change. The projects are going to have to go through all kinds of oops. And perhaps there can be some creative ways. We don't have all the answers, but in the process of going through this, some other things may come up to alleviate some of the additional traffic, although nothing is going to really immediately solve this huge problem of the traffic. It does affect everybody. But I think there's a reasonable project, and it does also help us to comply with our market rate housing responsibilities, which many people have brought up to us too, that there's different levels of income and the middle one is there. And I do want to say it again. I haven't said it in a long time, but as long as some member of the public keeps blaming me for something that predated me, I'm not going to be a punching bag. So there used to be an advisory municipal council in this town in the 60s and 70s. And it was during that period of the time that the decision was made to have university be the brunt of the traffic. It wasn't the council decided because they didn't have the authority. It was the muscle of Palo Alto did that. So you know once and for all I'm not gonna be a punching bag for something that I wasn't even here. I'm a founding member of the city and I'm proud of that and we did the best we could. But some of those decisions had been done before. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I look, I think it's about finding the balance. This, this, again, I think the clarity is important. It isn't approving a project. However, I do think the comments from tonight's meeting echo the concerns of traffic and look, I mean, I again, I live on Pulgas and at like 9 a.m. The traffic comes all the way to my house and I'm on the closer to a corner. Again, that's not the owners is on you guys, but that sort of situation we're in. So I think we need to take this opportunity to find productive solution oriented ways to solve this issue. Think creatively, think innovatively, as we're always, and as as Cousinville Metal said, we're mandated to build housing. I mean, that's something that the state has obliged us. We have to find a way of addressing it by mitigating traffic. It won't be this project alone, but certainly I'm going to look at staff as well as the applicant to help us think of creative ways of tackling it because it is an issue and 92% of cut through traffic through universities is just doesn't begin or any is volatile and that's that's the unfortunate reality. How do we make it something where we can benefit and reduce it. It's something we have to continue to think about, but in terms of this project, I think the rezoning is just one step. We want to make sure we invite you guys to the table and continue to think of productive ways to tackle this problem because we're not going to solve it tonight. And certainly, I hope that staff takes the feedback I did, which is how do we look at infrastructure improvements? How do we look at bike lands? How do we look at again, I'm going back to the ridership? How do we make sure we reduce those daily trips? I think it's critical. Councilman, go share any final comments before we, you know, tell you what I'm talking about. No, I thank you. And I think Councilman Romero for reminding us, we have talked about housing for all, and this is an opportunity to address housing fall for all ultimately so it is something that we will address later to make sure that we look at properties but housing is very much needed in our community. All right, being mindful of the time as well as the conversation I get I if there are no further questions. Appetite and motion for item 8.1. I'll move approval. Is there a second? Second. Okay. Is it moving the second? I always have all those in favor of peace vote with a sign of I. Aye. Yes. All right. But you guys aren't off the hook just yet. We're going to invite you guys to again. This is a critical issue. And I think part of the onus is it's on Poulgis. It's a major art or the city. It's a thoroughfare. A lot of passions in the room. So definitely inviting stakeholders continuing to find ways of reducing this, this regional issue that we've inherited. So thank you. Item 8.2, hopefully this is a bit more smooth. This is the ordinance adding chapter 13.09 to the municipal code City manager gains who will be delivering this item city attorney lay Good evening mayor vice mayor's under here, but council members members of the public I don't have much in the way of a presentation this ordinance is just simply waving first reading on an ordinance that would provide a structure and a process for protesting and subsequently lodging a legal challenge against the city in the event that the city adopts utility rates. And so because this is allowed by state law, this is something that staff is recommending that you do. And with that, I don't have much more in the form of a presentation but I'm happy to answer any questions. Council members, any questions? It seems pretty perfunctory. We're just setting ourselves up for success as a city regarding Remini's procedure and issuing fees, charges and so forth. Any any questions? If not, Councilmember, do we have any questions? Members of the public, do you have any questions? Councilmember, do you have any questions's any members of the public? Who? Where'd he go? Oh. Any. We're on loopy here. James, are there any members of the public? Seeing none, Mayor. This is for item 8.2. John, do you want to remind us again, just it's been a long day for us. It's just an ordinance to set up procedure for protesting utility rates. It's a procedure to protest. I make a motion to pass 8.2. It's been moving in a second. It all is in favor. Please vote for the sign of I. Hi. Yes. Hi. What a little record It all is in favor please vote for the sign of I hi. Hi. Yes. Hi Record there is a report in there if you want to read it again We read the report the report has been read All right item 9. We did 9.1 9.2 the bag and tag policy were almost there ladies and gentlemen This is for the storage and recovery of personal items during in camp and cleanups here for the city. Melvin, who are we presenting this? Our team from Public Works, Diana Tran, who I said was going to present earlier is actually presenting this along with comes a job in and possibly Fats-McCon. Thanks Melvin. Yeah, I'll go ahead and introduce Ms. Diana Tran. She's our Environmental Services Aid and she will be providing this presentation to us Dyna. Would you like me to share the presentation? Hey Dyna, we can't hear you. No, we can't, we still can't hear you. Maybe check your, on your microphone on Zoom. All right. Shhh. We'll give her another minute or so to see if she can fix her audio. We do also have Ms. Fatima Khan. I don't know if she is able to give the presentation on behalf of Diana. And if they're not able to, then I will. Yeah, Diane, I don't think we can hear you. Hey, James, you want to just pull up the presentation? Yeah, figure that out. Maybe I could. Yeah, I could while she's figuring that out just to just for the sake of time, I could probably kick us off here. Yeah. I just want, I just want to know if anybody has the bag. and All right, well, Dynah, if you fix your audio issue, just please feel free to jump right in. But, um, all right, do you want to go back real quick, James? Can you answer me? Oh, there we go. Yeah, we hear you now. Perfect. All right, Dynah. Sorry. That's not it. All right. Yes, we can hear you. Oh, yes. Is the presentation up? Yep, it's all set. Yeah. Okay, sounds good. Would you like to share the presentation? That's fine. I just can't see it, but that's okay. Sorry about that, everyone. If not, you can share your screen if you want. That's why it's easier for everyone. Yeah, yeah, go for it. Okay. So you can. Sorry. Yeah, that's fine. Okay, I'll share it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Good evening, Council. My name is Diana Tran. I am in environmental services aid with the public works department. I'll be presenting the proposed bag and tag policy. Or in can make clean ups. Next slide, please. The current policy we have regarding homeless encampment abatement is an administrative rule from 2016 that came out of the City Manager's office. It was a response to a 2013 state of California San Francisco Bay Regional Water Quality Resolution which required municipalities to address water quality impacts that are caused by homeless encampments. It establishes guidelines for removal of encampments that pose health and safety risks and state side if there is reason we'll be out that about whether items in an encampment is trash or debris or of apparent value. The items will not be discarded and it will be stored for 90 days. However, what's not included in this rule is a specific procedure that staff can follow when it comes to bagging and tagging belongings. Next slide, please. Here's our current policy for responding to encampments located on public property. First staff will either observe an encampment while out in the field, or we will receive a complaint from residents or other city staff. We visit all encampments to verify it is located in the city public right away. Then we will submit a request for services from the counties nonprofit partners we hope in life moves and a homelessness outreach team from one of these organizations will be dispatched to the encampment. The next step is for the homelessness outreach teams to make contact with the unhoused individuals and follow up with repeated visits to offer assistance and shelter. We will then consult with the City Attorney's Office to determine if the encampment is considered to be an immediate risk to public health and safety. For example, if folks are setting fires in a public space or excavating the creek bank to build structures, which compromises the stability of the crank, the creek bank, these are safety risks. and also if the encampment resident refuses shelter on multiple occasions, then we will schedule a cleanup of the encampment. Notices are posted at least 72 hours in advance, and the homelessness outreach teams are notified of the schedule cleanup base so they can be there to offer services during the clear out. Contact information for individuals to collect their belongings are included in the notices and are also directly communicated with individuals if they are present. Next slide please. Here is an example of the current notice that we use. We post both English and Spanish versions. It includes the date and location of the cleanup, the location of where collected belongings will be stored. How long we will store the items and contact information for people can call or email for questions. Next slide please. So far, this year, public works has completed three encampment cleanups without a formal back-and-tack policy. On April 14th, we cleared it encampment located under the pedestrian bridge near the corner of Newville Avenue and West Basel Road. As you can see in the first picture on the left, we identified remnants of a fire and determined the encampment was a public safety risk. There was only one individual living there who left after notices were posted. There were also two cleanups of the San Francisco Squeedo Creek on June 13th, public works crews conducted cleanup of trash and debris from an abandoned encampment. So no one was currently living there. And then later on July 1st, an active encampment containing one individual was cleared because it was located within the San Fransis Queedo Creek. The individual was not present at the time with the cleanup, but there was litter and biohazards within the creek. So the creek is an environmentally sensitive area and cleanup was necessary to maintain the cleanliness of our waterways. No belongings were collected at any of these three encampments. Next slide, please. Public works is proposing a bag and tag policy because based off of internal review and other agencies having specific policies. A detailed policy may be necessary to ensure that staff has clear guidelines to follow when it comes to handling people's personal property and that we operate in accordance with the law. The proposed policy aims to protect the property of the in-house individuals affected by encampment of vape activity. It defines personal, abandoned, and unattended property to ensure all personal property are collected and not discarded. This policy also provides aphids clear steps to follow for noticing, collecting, and tagging belongings, storage, and retrieval. Next slide please. The bag and type policy contains a 3-set process, which includes procedures for collection, storage, and retrieval. Next slide. The first thing we will do is post three removal notices, at least 72 hours before the schedule cleanup date. And it will include retrieval information. Before a cleanup of an encampment begins, staff will provide the owner of the belongings or the person designated by the owner to watch the belongings or will notice and a reasonable amount of time for them to move the belongings. Staff will also advise the owner or designated to collect important items such as medication and legal documents. Items will be stored at the city's maintenance corporation yard for 90 days after collection. Bokey items which are items that will not fit in a large residential trash receptacle, maybe stored as well. But it will depend on the courtyard storage capacity and whether the item is considered hazardous to staff in courtyard activity. Next slide. So each bag of belongings that we collect will have an intake form. And this form will include information such as the date and time items were collected, owner information, and a brief description of the items. Items are available for retrieval at any time during the 90 day storage period. The owner or the owner's designate may contact environmental services division to retrieve belongings. We will require them to provide sufficient proof of ownership, such as when and where these items are collected and a description of the items. Next slide, please. Items that will be immediately discarded are items that pose an immediate risk to health and safety, such as sharps and hazardous waste, items infested with vermin or insects, items soiled with human waste or mold, perishable food, contraband, garbage trash and debris, and abandoned property. Next slide, please. And finally, for next steps, if this policy is adopted, we will update the homelessness outreach team on the new policy and continue coordinating with San Mateo County and their partners. We will also train public work staff and environmental staff or just any staff responsible for collecting personal property on the policy procedures. And this policy will give us direction on how to handle personal property and we will follow these guidelines for future and can make cleanups. Policy updates can be made administratively moving forward based on what the current legal issues are. Thank you for listening. Thank you, Diana. Thanks for the presentation. Constellinvers, any questions or comments? I understand this is an item where we're trying to formalize some of the ways we address the rare, but we want to anticipate any clearing of belongings and bag and tags as a way of rest to do so. Any questions or comments or the staff? Customs go through the chair. Thank you, Diana, for this report. Question, do we have, is there space already identified that could accommodate this bag and tag because do we know how much property we may be collecting for these individuals? Those are an estimate. There is no estimate, but we did confirm that there would be space in the courtyard for clean-ups. Since they're not all happening a lot once, but we don't have an estimate of the volume of the longings that we would collect. And I'm glad to see that we could determine what's salvageable. And then I know this is about bag and tag, but we know that our creeks are very important to the region and making sure that the water is gonna be safe. So at some point, looking at how do we protect those, the creek from human waste and those type of things that will go out to the bay. I think that's another thing to bring back at some point about just the waterways themselves and the homeless encampments. Through the through the chair, just to not just bring that up, Councilman Gosset just wanted to reiterate when we last discussed issues about how I was and people living in the creeks, we did go ahead and schedule a creek cleanup where we have already began noticing the people who are living in a creek that shelter beds for them and in County, but then finally letting them know that they don't voluntarily remove their belongings by November 8th, then we will be doing a cleanup then. Thank you. Customer member, yeah, just one question. So yeah, I think this is good to formally adopted to be able to save people's belongings, properties that could be collected, say up to 90 days, is that the limit that the city would keep that? Yes. And then I'm assuming that after that, I don't know if it's in the resolution of the ordinance, but I assume that after 90 days, then the city disposes of it or destroys it or throws it away, just so there's no misunderstanding that people could come later, you know, 95 days and say, well, where's my property? So how are we? Yeah, what happens to after 90 days? And I assume we're legally protected in the ordinance. I didn't that. That's correct. I can feel that when I think what happens is after 90 days, it's deemed abandoned. And as I understand it, one other point that should just be made is that although a bag and tag policy is important to have my understanding from other jurisdictions is that it's actually quite rare that it's triggered most of the time when you actually notice for an Encampment the encampment is just simply abandoned and there are very very few things that are left behind Very few personal items that are left behind. That's correct. Okay. That's correct. Yes. Indeed. Other questions or comments? If not, James, let's see if anyone was a public who'd like to comment on our bag and tag policy. We did receive one comment from uh Gil Wilkerson. Have you heard that? Is he? Have you heard the Mr. Stevenson? Have you heard that? Huh? What's on Facebook? I think that's wonderful. And we hit the mark, hit the nail on the head. You're taking care and showing empathy towards people who are disadvantaged. I want you to take that same, well she had noticed she had and give it to every landlord. Graystar manages those 1,801 apartments that Peter Powell owns. They are taking tenants, belongings belongings and the law is clear. It says they're supposed to put it in a safe place. You know where they're putting it on a illegal record yard at 1854 West Bay Shore. You go by there, refrigerators, washing washing machines and everything sitting outside. I have reported it and oh, they're going to take care of it. This is what a year and a half later, probably two years now. But they take the people's stuff and jump in the mud. Oh, we got security cameras around. And if they're taking more than one tenants' property, this is relationship. That's why I'm bringing it up. It should have been brought up long time ago and destroying tenets properties. And you have other tenets coming in, taking other tenets stuff. And it's a dirty, nasty place over there. And that should be taking care of a bit or sooner than later. Because like I said, I have reported it several times and I have pictures I have taken them to court and I have won. They call me today to give me my thousand dollars, okay? Yeah, and so I knew I'm right and I like that which you guys which he made up and hit sit right home at home and I Apologized to you Mr. Barika, I didn't mean to point you out because you don't know what you don't know. I wasn't using you for a punch of that. Okay. Thank you, those are only speaker. Thank you, this will Kristen. Thank you for members of the public. And to our of course, my colleagues, council members, what is our pleasure if there's no further questions regarding this policy? Just one quick question for attorney. This will get pass tentatively. It'll be effective immediately. Is that the idea? That's correct. That's because it's resolution. One other thing that was in the presentation, I just want to highlight and probably just make this modification on the dias. In the staff's presentation, they mentioned that it's coming for adoption to the council now. And then subsequently, if there are any modifications that are made based on information that they receive, best practices or what have you, that it would be modified administratively and so I think the resolution should probably be amended so that it reflects that staff has that delegation from the council. All right. On that note, I'm happy to entertain a motion to pass resolution with that suggestion by the state attorney regarding the ability for administrative modifications as needed. All right. Second. As we moved in second, all in favor, please vote with a sign of aye. Aye. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much, colleagues. Counts, last item, council reports, council members. Any, any events or things of that nature to report to the public that we should be aware about? Stephanie. Well, I'll report on an event this past Saturday. I know there was a vaccination clinic. So maybe I think that's from a medical may report on that. But you know, talking about the creek last Saturday, we did do a neighborhood and creek, not inside the creek, but along the creek cleanup. And we had a little group of high school students from here. And then we hosted about 12, 13 students from environmental justice in Native American studies classes at Stanford. So yeah, we actually cleaned the entire zone south of university on the west side along the creek and that. And then the day before our city manager, Melvin and I also hosted, there must have been like 40 students from the classes just done. You know, they went to sit in hearing from us about environmental justice history. So definitely I think Melvin added a very direct experience as a young person. He's still young, but when he was actually a teenager, you know, involved in that. And then I just added my, you know, what I've seen over the years that our city has inherited many things that we had to kind of transform, you know, including the little bridge, the Destroin bridges that we built, the Lelandine, they used to be the county dump, that kind of, anyway. So, yeah, so that was a little cleanup, you know, I know that over the years, all of us have worked and we'll probably have to keep working on that for a while, but hopefully more and more people will be more responsible and not trash our city as much. Well, thank you to you and Melvin for being an ambassador to the city. When you go to the environmental justice. Great councilwoman. Go share. This may be a report that you're going to do, but we did the ribbon cutting this morning on Addison to my fellow council members. We have been working on Addison into staff for a very long time. So to see that project come to fruition, I was able to knock on Miss Winston's door and let her know that the project was complete. She was very happy to know that. So again, thank you to staff, public works, engineering, all those who participated in that project and made sure it happened. D, as I say, and Melbourne said it this morning, we got to celebrate the victories. It's very important. Councilor Meta-Metal, any updates? Yeah, I just wanted to let folks know that there's a second vaccination clinic this coming Saturday from 10 to 12 at the senior center. They will be the Stanford Flu crew, well, I'll tell folks about what happened last week, it will be there from 10 to 12 with flu and COVID. Last Saturday, the county's mobile team was at the Sand Hill properties, main office off of Euclid, and there were 57 vaccines administered. That day actually was much better attended than I thought. It was going to be. So there was interest. And that was a clinic from nine to one and people were complaining and saying, usually here till six, why are you till six? That was then then this is now. So anyway, it was it was a well-attended and as I said, the next one open to the public here in East Puddlewell, it is free. And again, from 10 to 12 at the senior center on Saturday, October the 19th. So, I don't see how they're, it is yes, two years and over. Bring that little man. And on that note, everybody have a wonderful evening and a happy birthday to Mr. Stevenson. Yay. Meeting adjourned. Time is 1027.