So, I think that's correct. For the certain, the fire rating prevention. So, they will have to comply with all of that. Yeah, as long as it meets a one hour burn. I think that's correct. Whenever. Whenever layers. We recently had a project that has the charred wood siding and the contractor was just over the moon with it. He loved it. It's fire resistant and it has a really low maintenance need for it. So we do see it from time. Any other questions from the board? I have one question and this is just in regards to parking requirements. So is it correct that the junior ADU does not by itself require an additional parking place? That is correct. OK. So I can reference the exact code from our town municipal code. It is Woodside Municipal Code Section 153.211C number seven, which says that the G80U does not require additional parking at the site. Got it. Thank you. Any other questions? I assume no. I can't see all of you, so I'm just going to. Okay. All right. With that, then we'll move on to the applicant's presentation. It would be applicant like to give a presentation at this time. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to a good evening to all the members. I'm happy to present our project. It's a simple farmhouse design residents with clean details which compliment the town's vernacular. design residence with clean details which complement the town's vernacular. You can see that the residence is designed to be wide and shallow to minimize grading. And we are using, if you reference somebody referenced fire code, we do have to comply with the chapter seven building code requirements for CHEP for fire resistance. So the garage doors, siding window frames, there's a long list of things that we have to comply with, and which will meet all those requirements. I'm just here to answer any questions you have about the design. Thank you very much. Thank you. Does anyone on the board have questions of the applicant? I was just wondering, did you design? There's a house that was designed on Blinwood, maybe the second or third house in on the right. Were you the architect on that house? Is it a attractive gray? No, we were the architects on the house that's actually on. Oh, is it a little bit hard to hear you? But yes, I'm going with it. There's a house that's all shingle. Right. Side in the two-story. Yeah, we design that house as well. Oh, OK, I got it. So that's an attractive looking house. Oh, thank you. Any other questions? Well, my question getting to the, it's interesting given the color scheme that you picked on that bad house, which is a gray, shingle beige, if I'm we're talking about the right house, that, you know, if it's more into the organic nature of woodside and meets more of our guidelines. And yet this house is, it seems to be white, which is a bit unusual. Right, we're using white sighting. We were kind of looking at the town hall building and some of the structures in the historic part of town that are white. And we're using kind of a very light gray trim color around the windows and then the dark black door entry door and the light gray roof. So we were trying to imitate the traditional far off of us in our color scheme. I'm just wondering if that color is set in stone, because even though we've done it at some of the historical buildings in town, it is not the residential design guidelines of having more of an organic blend into the fabric of the neighborhood. How strongly do you and the owners feel about this color? I know that was there is their preferred color scheme and would like to use it if it's allowed. But you know, always open to whatever is required. Thank you. Yeah, I'll just, I'll add to that that we been as a board. Pretty consistent in over the last two years with regards to feedback on colors that are. Close to white. I think our feedback has always been to look for something a little off white. And still be warm color preferably. don't have to go all the way to beige, but just something that will just take the starkness of the white down a notch. Right. Yeah, I think there are some nice white colors out there, off white colors that would still give us the general effect about what the homeowner's looking for. Yep. And as I fell a member mentioned there are the residential guidelines actually call this out quite clearly. So we're having a review of that. Right. Any other questions from the board to the applicant? The other question I have as has there been any neighbors? Any other questions from the board to the applicants? The other question I have as has there been any neighborhood outreach? Have you talked to, I mean, it's kind of a close street with everybody together. Have you had a chance to talk to the neighbors and show them the plans and the materials? I'm not aware of any neighbor outreach. Any other questions from fellow members? me. Well, I do have one other question on the on the fence. It says in the description that it's an open fence, but when you look at the rendering, it looks like it's a closed fence. And again, getting back to the guidelines, it's interesting on one side of the fence, it's a closed fence. And on the other other side it's the open deer fence that meets the Woodside Guidelines, Design Guidelines for an open fence. I'm just wondering what what's your fence going to look like that you have there? Is it in the rendering or the description says it's open? Well from it recall on the guidelines, it said that the gate had to be 40% open. So only the gate is 40% open. The rest of the fencing is just a standard vertical or fencing. I can just clarify that in terms of the requirements. So vehicle gates are required to be at least 40% open. The fencing, there's not a requirement for open fencing. It is encouraged with solid fencing. It has to be further set back from the street. So whereas an open fence might be able to be 10 or 20 feet back from the street. The R1 district of solid fence needs to be at least 30 feet back from the street if it's over 4 feet tall. And we do find that in the glens it tends to be an, but they will have to, if they do do a solid fence, they will have to comply with the setback requirements. Thank you for that clarification, Sage. Any other questions of the applicant from the board? I had one question. I noticed what the total floor area was about 1100 square foot left in your allowance. And you only have one J and U despite being allowed an additional A and U. With the homeowners aware of this allowance and if so. What was there reason not to take advantage of it? Was that, I'm sorry, it's a little hard to hear you. Was that the why they're not doing a full ADU? Is that a question? Yeah, in the code of Jesus. Now I see where I need to be. Yes, in the code, there's an allowance for a GA to you and one additional A to you detached or attached. And my question was, what if the applicants were aware of that allowance and if so, why they chose not to take advantage of it? they just wanted to build this amount of square footage and they may consider detached ADU in the future, but they're aware of it, yes. Thank you. Thank you. Good. Any additional questions of the applicant? Not on the board. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Then we'll move on to invite the comment public to comment. have again, no one in the room, but we have a Remembers online at Portland, Debra, and Eric. If any of those would like to comment, please raise your hand virtually. We'll call on you. There are no raised hands. Okay, you will close the public hearing on this item and move to board discussion with anyone in the room like to kick us off. Which room? Your room. I can start. I think they did a nice job of keeping the property not too close to the out to the neighbors. There is a considerable amount of glass, but when you look at the placement on the property, it doesn't seem like it's going to be affecting theely. I think they did a nice job. I see that it is white, but it is a soft white. It's not stark white. And I think when we see the actual sample that we might feel comfortable with it, and the house on Kenyatta close to the glens is also the stark white with the same trims. And it is traditional in this farmhouse style that it would be white with dark trims. I think they did a nice job keeping to the theme. Thank you. Anyone else in your room? I would like to see some neighborhood outreach. I think usually called for around this time. It's so it's not required by the municipal code. The town provides notices to all property owners within 300 feet. So then we haven't received any comments as a requirement. It's just something that's not required by the municipal code. Do we know if the people that are in the room are neighbors or if they? I recognize some of the names. I believe that at least one's a neighbor if not more a Deborah like to speak I'm mute yourself. Deborah, if you'd like to speak, you just need to unmute yourself. Yes. Yes. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I'm going to have a vote. I mean, I have kind of the same comments as the other members of the board. I would like to see a less white color, but if it is off white, and if it'll be shown in samples, then I'm happy to see in the samples. The fence and other landscape elements aren't actually, I don't have a landscape plan yet. So I'm in the comment on that now. And we can comment that on that if we see it again. And do you like how the building is set back in position on the site? You know, the echo, Amber Galgavi has comments. Yeah, it's a well designed site. I have an opportunity to look at the property and the plans and it's a very nice property with a very suitable design for that neighborhood. So I was very pleased with it. Good, thank you. I'll just offer my perspective. I mean, I, my comments pretty much echo my fellow members. I think with a contemporary farmhouse designed, you know, we'll, we see a lot of that within woodside. I don't wouldn't anticipate much criticism of it from surrounding neighbors. As it pertains to the fenestration, I think my only reservation is on the rear with the three large sliders. I mean, this is one area that's a bit of a departure from contemporary farmhouse style. And of course, what we're really concerned about is light pollution or projection of light. So I think the primary concern there might be the impact on the neighbors at the rear with regards to the light committing from those three large sliders. But other than that, I mean, I commend the applicant on selection of the style of the farmhouse and the overall style, I think, is quite well executed with regards to placement on the site and just generally the breakup of the massing to accommodate structure of the thighs, including the JEDU. So that's my summary. Any final comments from each other members? None. So where we are is the applicant has not installed story poles. This is conceptual design review. So it's not required. It boards not have too many comments. I'll summarize those in a moment. They so the options are the applicant can ask to come back to ASRB for formal designer view with story polls installed or an alternative option which is more common when there are not significant project changes required is that the ASRB can continue the conceptual designer view allow the applicant to install story polls with the intent of placing that on a future consent agenda to allow staff to complete the formal designer view. If there's anything new that comes to light with regards to historical installation and item can be pulled off the consent agenda for further comment. And then what I'll do is just jump into a summary because there's been a couple comments about the color but some board members seem to be find it acceptable. And so what we'll want to find is if any colors should be changed, and if that's the case, and it is brought back on the consent agenda, it's something that could be provided at that time as opposed to having to have the whole complete formal design or view application. So the ASRB commended the applicant for a new residence that is well placed on a lot, providing low impacts to neighboring properties. The applicant also is commended for the farmhouse design, which is suitable for the neighborhood. And some recommendations that I've heard from some of the members, so I'll wanna make sure that we have at least the majority of these comments. I'm sorry, the majority of members agree with these comments. Is that it's recommended that the applicant review the fenestration at the lower level, at the rear of the property for the large sliding glass doors To make them more consistent with the style of the building and to reduce the amount of glazing to Minimize the lighting mission Also the other comment that was recommended is for the applicant to provide a color that is off-white, a little bit darker than what is being shown. And those are the two recommendations that I've heard. I just want to know if the board is okay with all of those recommendations, if there's anything else that should be included. I just think that they, I know that the neighbors will be, I know this when the story will just go up, but if there's more of a concern about by the applicants to shake hands, introduce themselves and, and I think that would be that. Sure. So is there any members of the board, I would say that would disagree with having any of those comments on. So we have comments about the fenestration, the color, and doing to outline what they've done for community out for the next stage. I'm good with that. Exceptable to all members. Okay. So with that then, someone could make emotion and just go ahead. Number middleman. Do you have? I'm just making motion and again, the choices are to bring this back on consent with story polls with the intent of having staff complete the formal designer view. You can also ask for a color at that time. Or the other alternative is that they just move on to formal designer view and have the entire formal design of view come back to ASRB for review at which time story polls would be installed. Just a quick process clarification stage. So in the staff report under story polls, it specifically states that the board cannot refer a project to staff for formal without story polls being installed. So would bringing it back on consent satisfy that requirement? Yeah, so it would still be conceptual design view. So what we'd actually be doing today is continuing the item. And it can always be pulled off consent. That's just an efficient way if there's no further comments that it can be moved along. But the idea is that it's not moving to formal design view yet until the story polls are installed. Got it. No. Then, to clarify the motion, we'll. Got it? Yeah. Then to clarify the motion would be to continue the conceptual and place it on a future consent agenda. Yes, and then I would ask would you like to see the color sample at that time? Sure, sure. So with that consent that the one item that they would be bringing back is the materials board and that could be reviewed by the motion. I was going to make this to continue it on. Inceptional for future consent item. I did that materials board and the landscape. Plan was. And a landscape plan. Let's find it out that time. Of that, materials landscape turn on consent and with the other comments to be addressed at formal design review regarding the fenestration and the neighborhood outreach. Second. Chair Lindsey. Yes. Vice Chair Kammer. Member Dull. second. Chair Lindsay. Yes. Vice Chair Kammer. Member Delgaviou. Member Middellman. Yes. Member Sullivan. Yes. Great. Thank you. That will close that public item. Um, let's see. There's no other items. I guess the only thing remaining is whether we have a director's report. Um, no, nothing further, just, uh, all, uh, echo, uh, what chair Lindsey said at the beginning, but welcome to the board, Bob, and we're happy to have you. Um, and, uh, um, nothing else, uh, to note, uh, at this time. Okay. A question. Are we? Is it? Nothing else to note at this time. Okay. A question. Are we is it looking as though we have agenda full agendas for the upcoming meetings in the months of April and May? Not sure about the second meeting in April, but we do have one item for the April 7th meeting right now tentatively. Good. Okay. There's no other items or communication from board members and I will join the meeting. Is anyone having any wish to share? No, we miss you. Oh. Blind home on Tuesday. Next Tuesday. Good. But that will I will adjourn the meeting at 5.04pm. Great. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks.