Okay. Ready? Yes. There's no one there? I think it's someone going there. Somebody has a note. It's going to be. It's your mic. Okay, let's start the meeting. 602. Yeah, but the Regents. Okay, let's start the meeting, 602. Yeah, by your Regents, yeah. Let's, sure, sure. Roll call, Manclerc. Commission Sue. Present, Commission Miss Zong. Here. Commission, Commission Poulos. Commission Marathi. Present. President commissioners own here commission commission of pull us Commission on Marathi President Commissioner Roby She called she called me in thank you good make it commissioner Barbrain President Chairman liberto present quorum has been established. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to do a pleasure of leading. What are leading to the five of the United States of America and to the public for which it stands, one nation, under God, individual, liberty, justice, or all of us? Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. momentous day where 2,977 people were murdered. Okay. Thank you. I need a motion to accept the minutes from the last meeting. I make the motion to accept the minutes. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to go out of order. Please welcome Pedro to the meeting. Hey Pedro. He's the new it. Okay Pedro, we're going to normally just run over to you at this point. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Pedro, it's all yours. Thank you for the people who don't know me. My name is Pedro Mello and the assistant director for Operation and Maintenance for the utility I'm covering for Andrea like you guys know she Retired or resigned. And I'm not accustomed to vacant public, so I'm going to try to do the best that I can. And to hold the chip onto, we get a new director. You want to carry it from here? Go ahead. No. Okay. Testing. Okay. Good afternoon, everyone. Good to see you guys again. So as we normally go through, my name is Achille. I'm the program manager for N&B Okay, there we go. Good afternoon, everyone. Good to see you guys again. So as we normally go through, my name is Achille. I'm the program manager for N&B Water. We're going to be going over some highlights for the CIP and then I'm going to turn it over to our other colleagues to go over their components of the presentation. So agenda, we're going to go over the capital improvements, customer service with Ernesto. We have an honor of meeting our engineering department, Karim, he's going to go over some of his projects as well in this meeting and then the community outreach we always end with Greg. So capital improvements. Some of you, not not some, all of you know we've been all these projects that I'm going to give you a few updates on. So the operation center. So last time we spoke, we were waiting on POs and stuff like that. Right now, construction is underway. We're waiting on material. There's some lead times that we have to deal with for like VFDs and actual control panels. So once we get that in, we'll be continuing to do construction. So construction started, we had to hit a stop for a little while for material to get here, but that's gonna be picking up in the next week or so. The next project, sorry, go ahead. How long has construction supposed to last? It's a year, so this didn't impact us very much. We just had lead times as an issue. But we're on track on schedule and we should be completed on time. It didn't impact the construction schedule, and trimistically. Bunch park. So I'll glad to talk about this one. We will have the kickoff meeting tomorrow. So we've been working really hard on that. And that's a water main improvement project close to the school that we talked about a couple of meetings ago. So the water main improvement is going to be happening over there as well and that kickoff meeting is going to happen on the 12th of just tomorrow. Raw water transmission. This is a new one. I don't think I've mentioned this before in previous meetings, but few guys are familiar. We're putting in new wells for the water treatment plant. This is the pipeline that's going to connect the wells to the treatment plant itself. So that's going to go out and advertise in October. And hopefully we get some vendors selected for that to move forward. The next project I'm going to discuss is two projects. It's the Bell Gardens Force main and the Master Plum Station. Within the CIP, we have a phrase, we lumped this all together called a joint bid. So if you recall a few meetings ago, we had issues getting bidders to bid on projects and things like that. So one of the mechanisms we decided to do was combine projects to try to garner better interest with vendors to make it more enticing for them to bid. So this was one of the projects where we put two of them together. We got a good bidder on there and we're getting ready to award that. So what needs to happen is we're going to go to the commission, I believe next week on the 17th, to do a budget amendment to move money into the appropriate funds, get that sorted out and then open the PO. So that's going to happen in the upcoming weeks. Is that part of the WIFI funding? No, WIFI is more water. That was sewer. Oh, God. That's a sewer stuff. God, okay. Sorry. Okay. So there is one that didn't want to do one project separately from the other is because it was too small. So what happened was one of the projects was it was either too small or it wasn't enticing for vendors to bid. So I believe it was Bell Gardens. We didn't get any bidders whatsoever when we advertised it as individual projects. So by doing that we combined it and we were able to get a good competitive bid for both of them. And the other one, if I'm not mistaken for master pump station, when we went out the bid, it was over budget. So people weren't bidding, and then some of them that were bidding, they were coming into high. So we made it combined to see if we can get a happy medium, and we ended up with a good result on that one. Okay. So it came in within budget, and hopefully we'll start that soon. These are the three remaining design projects that we have on our CIP. So we have the system-wide water main for pine tree north. We've held the 30% design workshop with the consultant, and that went well, and that's ongoing. Our intent to complete all three and have a 90% or 60% in the middle before Christmas of this year. The next project is pine tree south. We finished the consultant finish their survey on the project and that means they went out to the actual site, conducted a survey, verified the utilities and what's actually in the area so we can start putting together the plans and the Noreland project, south east. We've held the 30% design workshop and the consultant is working on submitting the 60% and we'll be we're on track to complete that by December as well. In terms of meeting our milestone of the 60% deliverable. Our favorite project, Eastern Shore is Phase 2. That is going well. The finger islands are moving forward. The process of starting at two ends of was working out going well. The finger islands are moving forward. The process of starting at two ends of was working out really well were a head of schedule actually with that project and construction is ongoing. The last one, I mentioned to you a couple of meetings ago is Corona Del Mar. That is the private lateral. So that's when we put the gravity line in the middle of the road and now we're tying in these private homes with sewer connection. So we had some issues in the past with permitting and we were only able to complete nine properties as of a couple weeks ago. However, we pivoted and were able to change our permitting strategies and getting some variances with the building department and the other agencies that we're working with with Durham and DOH. We're able to start processing larger batches of permits. So we've got 31 of them approved and we're starting the other 31 and it's a total of 130 homes that we need to complete. So this process by pivoting and getting that done, we're able to try to the construction moving a lot So with that, I believe that's the conclusion of my presentation. you know, just the area that you're working there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! H-Tweet. Okay. that the other streets for whatever reason. This street was apparently always bad, The first thing is that when they dig up the streets to put the pipes, all the mud is floating into the canal and the canal looks like it's all muddy. Obviously, then it drains down. The sedimentally goes down. But for hours, the whole canal looks like it's you know some kind of... I haven't seen any sediment barely done any of the catchphrases. But it gets, it's got this muddy yellow color which means that the earth is coming from the street when they dig the channel to put the pipe, everything is floating in the canal. Okay, I can tell you about something like that, because since I took over, we received two complaints about that. One of the problems was we were, or the CIP group was instructed to remove the filter. And by doing that, everything go through the drainage. drainage is going to go to the canal. When we find out I instructed to the crew to put back the filter. It's not a very good situation because if we put the filter you're going to get floated. But if we don't disill into the canal, we'll be out letting them do all. So we're going to have to work it out. Balance, I'm going to go ahead and understand. So I guess the silver lining is that we're close to finishing. We're ahead of schedule. So hopefully we'll be out of your hair in a couple of months. But don't quote me on that, but we're working really hard to try to get that out there. And Mr. Lumberto, for your comment or your question, we have an inspector onsite. So we made sure that we have an inspector onsite. Once if the contractor's there, we have an inspector with them at all times. They're never left alone on a supervised. So I will make a note down. I'll make sure I talk to my construction manager and make sure we tighten up on the inspections and making sure the contractor doesn't leave any debris or anything around lying around. And as Pedro mentioned, it's a double ed sword that we have to deal with in terms of the catch basin because by law, as he said, nothing can go in the canal, but at the same time we have to put the filter fabric to cover the catch basin to prevent the silt from going in there. But then as Pedro mentioned, it's covered, so the flooding happens. So then when we have rain every day in the summertime, your streets are gonna get flooded. I don't know if you remember, we have a no-name storm that it came like a, excuse me, like I'm on a half before, that is when the filter was removed. So we didn't follow up and that's why we got the issue. But it's being corrected. Yeah. On the bottom of the, what's the sun? 33, 21 Northeast, 165th Street, they knocked down a poll. And I reported it to David. So you might have got a call from David today. Uh-huh. David Scott. Can you say the address again, sir? 3321 Northeast 165th. It's across the street from that address. They knocked down a poll yesterday. I feel received my call from David Scott. That's what that's the one. We went over care of it. the customer sees somebody parking from the house and they think that we do something and that was in the case we took picture, we sent it to the city manager and he take care. So any other questions on CIP? Actually I do. I'm sure. Corona Delmar, how long has that project been in progress? I have a question for you. I have a question for you. Is there any other questions on CIP? Actually, I do. I'm sure. Corona Delmar. How long has that project been in progress? So we, that project was a really slated for a year, but over time on that one. But we've been working with the contractor. So no change orders or anything has been issued to date. But we've been working with them to get the permits and everything squared away because the hold-up is the permitting process that we have to go through because we have to go through each individual home To get them tied into the gravity line I understand and and the question is like the building department didn't cooperate with you or it wasn't that they're cooperating It's we have multiple agencies working together. So we have DOH that we have to comply with Derm and our building department. And sometimes the issue running into is if we pull the permit with one agency it has a time stamp on it. So it has like 30 days or 60 days left on it. So if somebody's taking too long to get something done on one permit it expires and we got to go back and start the process again. So what we did to mitigate that previously, we had meetings with all three departments, and all of them assured us they're gonna work with us, where they're gonna do all these things. That was said in meetings, when we actually started the process, things were a little different. So we were working through that, and hence we were able to do the bulk permitting, so we were able to get a large amount done at one time. So with this process, we should be moving a lot quicker and hopefully don't run into that many issues again. But that was an issue that we had. One permitting, you see the grant is that, and it has a time limit associated with it. Because I was wondering why you didn't collaborate all the agencies together. We did. Right? Because I was thinking nine? Nine properties? Yeah. We did. Forever. We did. We had multiple coordination meetings with DOH and Durham. And the issue is that everyone saying, yeah, we'll work together. And just, but most part, we all did. The problem is they have rules and regulations that they need to follow. When you get an issue to permit, you have so many days to get it executed, right? And if the other one is holding up, we're wasting comments or anything like that, that derails the system. But we're able to work through that and we're able to get 61 or 62 out right now. So right now we have 31 in hand and we started the second process of the second 31. Okay, excellent. Thank you. Good job. Not a problem. Any other questions for CIP? Awesome, thank you. So I'll turn that over to Ernesto. And you will talk about customer service. Because when I see this total. Good evening commissioners. Nice to see you all. Yes, I know. It's in Norway. I'm not thrilled about the numbers. Mr. Cosan is going to take a picture of this as soon as you turn the page. I forgot to switch it, but yes, he has a copy of it. And he's going to zoom in on August. The good thing about August, although he has increased, most of it falls within the 39 to 59 day bracket. So it's freshly delinquent. freshly the link. Okay. We're still creating the notices on a weekly basis. We're still sending them out. We actually include, as I mentioned previously, the week-year package and any assistance that we can provide it's on the backend. Tips to try to locate leaks. And, you know, any for information for customers to reach out Unfortunately doesn't seem like way would have break the $12 million mark. It just keeps fluctuating up and down As I mentioned in the past we've had an issue also with with the meters themselves not reporting Part of it was because we were so focused on doing the shutups that we kind of let the maintenance, you know, slow down. But we're picking that up now. We got registers in. We got repeaters in. One of our meter readers, actually we came in meter technician. So he's assisting the meter technician that came from from distribution on changing out these larger meters. So we no longer have to be estimating them, which is, you know, it's unfortunate I know. It did happen in we're correcting those issues. I know. Thank you. Mr. Attorney, did you ever find an answer? correcting those issues. I know. She's ringing on one second. Mr. Attorney, did you ever find an answer? That was asked two months ago. Yeah, my understanding was Andrea said to me specifically, she was getting in touch with you to deal with it directly. I don't know if she did. Did she? Meaning like for us to send out an estimate of the bill. We have been talking about the issue. Andre and I and she said she was going to follow up with you about it specifically. She never followed up. We talked about it but I told her that I'm still waiting for your response. Okay, my understanding is she was going to handle it. So what was the conclusion that you got? It was to speak with her and she was going to speak to you about it. But I'll be sure to dig up and she was going to speak to you about it. But I'll be sure to dig up what I can to get it to you. Okay, I was never informed. Thank you. So the estimation process has been a long time process for the utilities. We're not the only ones that do estimations. I mean, now, what I found out is that different cities or do estimations differently. Miami-Dade, for example, they'll use, like not an average of the customers bill, but a specific amount of gallons that the customer's gonna be built for, as a estimation. FPL, for example, the estimate of previous history and that's how they do it and that's how we do ours as well. We take the last four quarters, which is a total of 12 months for the residential and for the commercials 12 months. Okay, and that's how we end up with a estimate, although sometimes, as I mentioned on my, I'm missing in suit, that can fluctuate depending on usage and, you know, within three months, a lot of things can happen, right? And unfortunately, there's no way for us to explain to the customer where the water went. We only monitor the meter and we compare the readings. From the previous to the new reading, you get the difference. That's what you get built for. Now, obviously, estimation has been a problem due to, you know, lacking of maintenance. And we're getting, try to make sure that we get to all these meters we order a new batch of registers from a different brand, the retrofit, there were a lot cheaper and this this is, I want to say it's a temporary solution, okay? Because ultimately, as I mentioned before, I think the goal is to go to these ultra-sounding meters. Lately, I think the goal is to go to these ultrasonic meters. Lately, I've been in discussions with other vendors regarding to the network. I believe I turn it good, but it's time to start looking into perhaps moving slowly to another AMI system. Okay, something that is more reliable or something that can give us more of a, from the utility perspective, more of a study and analytics, right? Right now we see just the usage and the leaks, but the alarms are not quite there for us. The new systems they can actually compare data from what the water plant is producing to what is being sold. So those reports can be a little easier accessible And so, I think that the community's support for the community is that the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the community's support for the from the time it's upon. I do not actually believe that's being completed right now. But I don't know. I don't really get the numbers from the water plan on a monthly basis. So I can give you those. Yes. Just curious. I know that we are purchasing that two pic meter at the water plan. For some time, it wasn't being reading. But Karin has a song history on it. Yeah, I've been compiling it over many, many years and we're around 15% right now. So it's not too bad. I think North Miami is around 20, 25. And Miami data is 30 and up. So we're pretty good. Yeah. But we've been lower. Sure. Yeah. Well fortunately our product loss is not a big deal. It's not like it's gasoline or oil or something that's... The water really doesn't cross us. Yeah and we have the leak sensors and we're using them to find leaks, mostly small leaks but as Pedro said we're looking at replacing the output meters at Norwood, which we suspect may be off a little bit, and that could make a big difference. Three big meters totalizing everything. Thank you. I don't know if you know how we also is improving the scale system. They're going to allow us to get better data from the intake and the output of the water plant. Okay. I have another question. What is our cut off? Water cut off. What do you mean? Like if they don't pay,, when do we cut the water, or when do we stop the? So we typically will go by zones, as I mentioned before. Unfortunately, we don't have staff to be shutting off as quick as we would like to. And we try to make sure that we keep it with a number of notices that we can make sure we go and shut off, right? You don't want to overdo it and then you are backlogged. But I mean, what's your time span for the warnings? Two weeks. Is that what you're referring to? Yes, so after a few weeks if they don't make it. You get the notice and you have two weeks to either call those making a arrangement. You know, we're open to arrangement payment plans. But once that water is shut off, those are out of the table. OK, we give two weeks for them to give us a call, settle whatever if they had a leak. If they don't. Normally, it prompt them customers to resolve the issue that they had. Sometimes, we see it a lot where customers, they have a leak, and they kind of leave it to something drastic happens. And drastic means, like getting a water shut off. Just today we had a customer like to build. I don't want to sound mean like oh if you don't pay your water bill I'm going to show you water off. But what I want to acknowledge is we have good paying customers. Of course. Right. And it's not fair to them that other people are using water for free and causing, you know, I mean like, we can, the city can do so much with this money. Correct. Now believe me, we listen to each case, when the customer brings it to us. And again, as a customer is responsible and comes in and talks to us, we'll work with them. But obviously, yes, if there's no communication, we're going to turn off the water. Okay. Now, because of the maintenance that we're doing, that process has slowed down a bit. We're still doing the notices. But so the notices is $25 and above. But the shut-ups, we set a limit to us to what we consider, okay, let's really target this because it's gone beyond to what we can accept. Right, and I'm looking at this and it looks like more of the accounts that are delinquent are outside NMB too. Yes, I just, I do want to want you to guys to keep in mind that, and I think we've mentioned this in the past. There's a huge outstanding balance from Miami-Dade that goes a couple of years back. And we're trying to resolve this. Once that gets settled, you'll see a significant drop on that outside that- What is that rough amount? What is that estimated amount with Miami-Dade? Close to two. Close to two million? You're saying that when you say Miami-Dade, you're just talking about the unincorporate. They, so correct, no, Miami-Dade County. So we have some- No, we've been selling some water to them. We had an issue before my time and Robert can Yes 1991 The meter so my understanding was that there was a large cover boat unfortunately our staff didn't have the equipment to lift this boat so it was being estimated. Come to find out that they have a pressure valve that's still open. And once we got the reading, you know, do we ever get the sewer valve resolved? That was an issue at one time too. No, that issue is coming back way back from before 2016. I'm sorry. Speed 22, that's the one that you refer to. That started in 2016, we brought it up, then Jacob took over. It was a lot of negotiation, and I know after the city took back the utility, there was some negotiation. I was not part of that, but it's only being we can have. So we plan to find out exactly what it is and where we stand. I know that at one point it was a communication to swap one dip for another one. But I do not know what a dago. But I can try to find out. Well, it would be pretty good if we could resolve that using the surplus that we watered that we gave to them, right? Yes. Yeah. So just to go back to that issue again about Miami-Dade County, because I've heard this inside I joined the board. What actions are taken? So at one point we had a meeting and I think Miami-Dade is having internal meetings as well. I know as of the week of August 26, one of the Miami-Dade were percent of that have reached out to me to for me to provide him the ledgers again. So luckily that has not, you know, that out. So we're in the process. Okay, it's taking a lot longer than I wish you would have taken. But I think we're in the right track and I hope to see some type of agreement. That's good to hear because it was only at least hopefully I think we're under right track and I hope to see some type of agreement. I hope to see this year. That would bring our deficit a lot lower. You know that you have the ability to come to the commission and we can help you with that too. Yeah. OK. Karin Rossi was part of the negotiating team. He can give us a little more history. And I don't have too much to add, though. Basically Ernesto kind of summarizes it pretty good. I mean, we didn't meet with them. Yeah. Maybe a month or so ago, they owe us a million dollars. That's one meter that Robert mentioned and we owe them a few hundred thousand on the sewer. As Pedro said, you know, we'd be good if we could wash some of it and then maybe get a net check for the balance. But, uh, yeah, but basically, I guess it, uh, they've had many changes in their leadership as well as we've had between Jacobs and Miss Suarez and now new team, but it resurfaced on their end. Someone said, hey, you know, they owe us some of money and they said, well, yeah, you owe us money, too. And so we got together. Yeah, they should kept their mouth shut. Exactly. But yeah, they've summarized it pretty good. Karim, do we have a cost per gallon of water that would have cost us to produce a gallon of... Perthousen. I'm not sure. Was it like a dollar or for a thousand or is that something you can look into like for the next meeting? Give us sure sure and what we saw it for how much do we sell the water for? Mm-hmm. So yeah the sales there actually on the web server will get you that they're in that in that in city of NMB water the rates of the customers but we'll bring that I'll bring that part. Is that the same for residential and like when we sell to Miami-Dead County? No Miami-Dead County. Right because we would have to. They get a wholesale rate. Hose? Yeah but can I have the wholesale and the retail rate? Thank you. The main issue is is where it's costing us to produce each thousand down. Which brings up another thing. You know, I brought this up for years. You know, we, Miami Beach, we're in work in public works over there. If, if customer had a water leak, a sudden water leak, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're, we where basically the ended up five or 10,000 gallons or 20 times whatever that would be. The city would give a one time forgiveness to that customer based on having a plumbing receipt, plumbers receipt that it was fixed. And they would look at the yearly history of what the water was and that's what they would be charged for that month. That's actually a policy that Andrea was working before she left. It has not gone to commission yet, but I know what you're talking about. Currently the only systems that we offer is a leak credit on the sewer portion. Right. We still charge for the water. But Andrea was working on the policy and that needs to go to commission and get approved. It was like one time, yeah, something that you couldn't have repetitive forgiveness. I believe but it saved a lot of people. I mean, really some people were really on fixed incomes or something like that. It happens, it could be devastating, you know. So. Yeah, of course. Now I see it, you know, I see it constantly. So we try to do everything in our power to assist customers. I got especially, you know, when you look at their track record of payments and work orders and they would work with them. Right. So, but I understand, you know, we'd like to make that a priority from this board. You know, we're requesting that to happen there. Okay. Thank you. So I have a one question. Yes. How are we doing personnel wise because you seem to have been always short of self-destruction? So, right. As a higher enough people. As a Friday Friday we actually terminated one of the phone yes unfortunately not everyone's gonna work out that puts a hurdle on us but we you know we can keep somebody that causes more issues than solve them but we're in the process actually had interviews today and yesterday to cover three customer service one positions. And eventually it's gonna be four because I have a, the person that I got terminators a customer service to, there's plans to fulfill that position. Regarding the meter readers and meter tags, we had requested for this new fiscal year 2025 to get some new positions for the meter tags. Unfortunately, my understanding that those were the night. So, I'm still with what I currently have and trying to make the best out of it. I do have to hire one meter reader, but that would be it. That's all I have right now. I have another question. Yes. Are we able to get the water to be registered to the owner versus the tenant? That is something that Andrea was working as well. I think that falls under the director's hands. I know she had pulled something together, comparing it with other cities that follow this ordinance. But I believe that's going to be left to the new director when here she comes in to establish that. She did leave her notes and what she, the changes that she had made, but she said it's not finished, but it's a great start. Mr. Chair, you have property outside North Miami Beach. Is the water bill under your tenant's name or your name? That's always the tenant. Always the tenant? I think we have, then we can get an example from Holland. That's the one that we use and I believe there was another city. I can recall. Miami Beach. Miami Beach also has a hundred. Oh really? We can take those two and get the best of all those two. Yeah, so that is that was in the works with Foreign right left Who's our is mr. Scott like as he The liaison from the city manager's office or for our meat for our board For our board. He's our liaison No, no, he's a commission liaison, but the city manager no? No. No. Okay. You're the director. All right. Director. So the director was reporting to David Scott for a while. Yeah. Then. Yeah. I have Scott and he has to report. Oh. Yeah. But I wanted to say. I know that the city manager, specifically, has us to come up with something, because I receive an email from him to inquire all the cities. So I going through the document that Andrea left, I'm very sure that it should be there, but we're gonna be tried to get everything that she will work in on it and give you an update. Fantastic. No, don't mind me. I mean, I always spend about 20 minutes on this, but I think that the reason why I do this is because our water plant has so much potential. Right? We have filtration systems that even Miami did. County doesn't have. We have the capacity. We can grow so much, but without the proper structure, internally, it's hard to grow, right? If we're still catching up with reading meters and, you know what I'm saying? That's a lot of stuff to do, right? And it's physical. You have to go out there, read the meters, you know, electronic. Oh yeah, I hope that it'll be widespread for electronic. Okay, but I mean, we can't go and shut down people's water just like, no, that's something that there is meters out there now that you can just switch them. We can't have the office. Sorry. That is a big bet. Let's get that after we collect the debt. Okay. So I feel like I was a, they sidetracked a bit too much, but back to, to the slide. So for August 7.3 million, on active, 6.4 million active, the total of 13.8, it's on the up. I know this is something that's somewhat new, which is a total total of accounts that are open. This is a fluctuation that we normally see in the office. Again, it sets a mix of walkings or emails with the emails they do have to send to the possible email. Unfortunately, we don't have the possibility yet to send the deposit right now. Unfortunately, we don't have the possibility yet to get those deposits online, although a new billing system would allow this to happen. Next is, I believe, the surfer July. You know, typical of the open accounts, which we already stated, but this is more of the breakdown between owner, tenants, and commercial accounts. We typically see at least for July, we got a lot of owner, owner accounts being open. Now keep in mind that these owner accounts could be companies that are just buying, flipping, and selling. OK, so we see a lot of that. Tenants, we, I can't say they're growing. We can see the fluctuation from month to month. Again, for August, we see the larger open would be for owners. And then following would be tenants. The commercial accounts are normally close too much unless it's, you know, businesses I don't force you that didn't make it. But eventually you'll see a new one come in and replace that one. This is the total amount of open accounts, you know, about $25, which is $7,626. As I mentioned at the beginning, part of it is new accounts that just became past due. So again, the fluctuation in debt always goes back and forth, especially shortly after we built. Okay. For some reason, commercial and these so high rises, they tend to pay towards the end of the month when it's close to them being passed to and that kind of falls under the report as the link went, but that's why we have those fluctuations. And finally, the link, the link, that from the city of NNB compared to the other cities that we service, which for August 2.2 in N NMB and the other cities 5.1. This is including that debt from Miami. And finally, this is the one time forgiveness policy that Andrea was working on. You know, we worked on this together and there's some criteria that if you guys want to copy, I'm sure we can provide them, but this has not been a poop yet. So, but this is what we've had years in the past when people would fill their swimming pools. You would give them one time again. No, so even the pool credit, it's just sewer. Pool credits, you don't get water credit. They never got them? No. Only sewer. Only sewer. I think this is going to be using the ARPA funds, right? Yeah. Because you're not. Yeah, so I believe that was the goal to use the ARPA funds. If the funds that we have that we collect as donations want to be used, then we really need to work on setting up new ways of getting money in. This is it. Yeah, so the system that we used to collect payments actually came out with a donation box recently actually not too long ago. And I was in discussions with our accounts manager from that company. We can set up multiple donation boxes. The thing I had mentioned this before, maybe, even if it's a temporary donation, something cut your stuff, it happened, and we want to be part and assist one way or another, we can set these up. But we have not had the green leg yet. My understanding it correctly that you mean like physical boxes. No, no, no, it's online through the online building. Thank you. Okay, because I was like, it's a lot too to steal that. No, no, no. So before we had a donation box on the stuff and the stuff and customers would send out the difference but it's 21st century that's easier ways to donate. It's just a lot of things to keep in mind. The company also has to make their profits so who's going to pay for that percentage in game? Right. This policy is at awards and last month commission meeting, it didn't make it. Didn't make it to the reading or didn't make it to the meeting. Oh. It is ending next agenda. Okay. Because we only have one meeting a month and meetings go till midnight and we lose half the, you know, half the dinner. It's a lot that gets covered. I have one suggestion for you. Yes, sir. I know you're gonna revisit AMI again. I was the one that dealt with this from day one. When I trun came in and did all all their selling and everything they offered you. My suggestion is these companies will come in and put you a pilot program in different areas. I would suggest to take them to come in, do the service and put the pilot program in the areas that you're having the most problems with right now. And have them install on the pilot the valves that shut off the water because they I tron offered it to us but they were very expensive back. Right so so now it's actually within the meter. Correct. So they're not even like a separate valve. Correct. Back then was a separate valve. Yeah. So I would suggest if you're gonna start visiting this this was alleviate a lot of your staff having to go out there shut off the water and be a lot of it. It's gonna be a high demand when you don't have enough staff and the in your, the link with you keeps going up every month. My amy date actually just got, I believe in two way, I don't know if it's a contract or a talks, but they're going to get some of these smart meters as well as a network and they have different packages. Aliza one I talked to they have different packages that they'll make sure that the accuracy stays within 98% margin and some of the agreements actually, you know, we decided to They can maintain it in the way like if a If a meter goes down, right not the meter itself, but the reading Electronic reading doesn't come through They're the ones that would handle that and make sure that that endpoint Comes through the network So, they're the ones that would handle that and make sure that that endpoint comes through the network. So that would actually, like you said, alleviate a lot of stress from the meter readers and at that point, we really wouldn't need meter readers. We wouldn't need meter texts. Meter texts in the sense that if the customer feels like, you know it's the reading it's unfair they're questioning the meters and that would be what the staff would be doing at that point no more going out to read or get all these log gates and there's so do you still have a contract with I-trone that's over with no the contract gets so we believe it's just every new year after year. So yeah, the thing is just continuous. Yeah, I tried going away and I'm sure what census is offering you a system now. They did come in. What I did like about this specific one is that they can actually incorporate those end points from I-Tron within their platform. Obviously, we still have to maintain the infrastructure for both. But within the office, we don't have to go jump from one system to the other to see and we can slowly start implementing them. So it's not like a huge project that they need to, yes, they do offer pilots. And we have, as you know, we have certain areas that, for some reason, we can get a signal. Yeah, the beach. No, so the area around top golf, the area around one sixty second and six, six, is it? There's an area that for some reason we don't get signal. Yeah, remember. Yeah, right now, and when we still try to find a way to see where we can put one of these collectors up. Right. Yeah, there's no street falls in the street and places over there. Yeah. Would you try the old, that first union bank building that we took it down from there? It was there for many years. Whatever we haven't really taken anything down. We go and repair. There was one. There was one repeater that we switched out of a collector hoping that we get get some better coverage My thought really is is that these collectors and repeaters have been out there for such a long time and Even though I turn hasn't really Tell us that that the range drops, I believe, that the antennas that these repeaters and collectors are made out of fiberglass. And I feel over time they reduce the frequency that they can collect. So I do believe we have to go out there and start switching these antennas out. And it's more like a triner. I can't be certain that that's what the problem is. But we have a truck that can carry this, you know, go collect the signal for the collector. So when we do readings, whenever we have such a vast amount of reads that are not coming in through the network. We do have a mobile radio. It's a brick. Right. Right. It's huge. Right. Then we'll normally, depending on the amount of reads, we'll set up one or two guys because we do have, we have in total three. We use two because of third one. It's kind of obsolete. And they'll go out and obtain the readings from the, you know, what we have found some issues with that though, that the, let's say the cable was cut on the end point, and we're picking up the reading. The reading that the system picks up is the last good reading. The last good reading Last good read means before it was cut So when we get a reading It's a lot higher than what right the last good read was and that causes right that issue Right, right, so that's what's always best to put our eyes on the meters sure and that's part of keeping up with the maintenance they still have the handhounds so I can pick up the read when you walk up to we have we did the handhounds are old school listening so about I want to say three years ago we got got the I-Tron Mobile Radio, IMR. It's like a little yellow small brick. You can carry it on your pocket and it connects to your cell phone. Thank you. Pedro, do we have opportunities for selling water, your wholesale, like to some other municipalities or other areas? I think it was on some negotiation with our heart. But I don't know what is the status on that. We do have the capacity. I'm what I plan. Yes, yesterday with the the connection for the new tank. It's gonna be tested, test infected. I think the the capacity is there for us to sell water. What we need to do is to lower the municipality that right now is receiving water from Miami-Dade County. Right to here. Right. Well, we have to be competitive obviously on the little bit that I know about the other utility and municipality is the quality of the water. So you pay what you get for. The rate of Miami-Dade County is keeping us, but the water's not the same. No, remember, I mentioned this, I think, Peter, you were there, right, about the PFAS. Yes. Right, so I mean, since they can't filter it, we can filter it, and that's a carcinogen. You know, the amounts in the aquifers are, it's like 35 or more, right? And when the allowables only four. So nanograms per. Yeah, we do have nanofitration and reverse osmosis. That eliminate most of the PFAS. Yes. And we are on the plant to upgrade the limesite that not gonna eliminate everything but it's gonna Hope no, it's definitely safer right for pets for people. Yeah, I mean some people cook with it Yes, so and that doesn't go away with boiling Yeah, well I've been drinking the water for 32 years since I've been here. So did it have that level of p-fascinant? I don't know, but it didn't have no effect to me. So that is right. Maybe you're immune to that. Are you referring to that of the cough forever chemicals? That would be okay. I just learned. Yeah, it has a nickname. I think like, I mean, maybe neighboring cities would like to join. The thing is, I don't know how if we could expand or not, and would that be a negotiation with Miami-Dade counties, just saying that their residents are opting into NNB water, because it's the best tasting water. Lynn, we supply a lot of water to a lot of cities around us. I'm ready. No, I mean, we use probably max 25 MGDs and we have a capacity of 40. 41. Like 41, sorry. So if we can supply another five or six and if we are calculating the cost that the chairman was asking, how much does it cost per gallon, and we can probably make more money for the city. Oh, so, money. Even a full sale, right? That's good because we don't have to go collect. Right, that's what I'm saying. Miami-Dade County goes and collects. They just pay us, but I hope they don't take another three years. Where's the camera? We already have the main to be harbor, right? Yes, 30 there. We do have a interconnect medium with them. Right. Yeah. Let's just a question opening the valves there. From time to time when Miami-Dade County load the pressure or they have any problem, we sell water to them. We do the same thing with Hollandale. Also, Hollandale call us a lot. They plan is very small. And sometimes when they had to do maintenance, we step in and help. The county call us a lot of time when they going to have to put down one of the plans to for maintenance. So the potential is there. Let's see. But now, okay? Yeah, I think that would be the end of my presentation. Okay. Because we are great coming up. Thank you. Actually, I would all type here. Sorry before, commissioners, who I just like to go over, we're, we're, I talked with Mr. Geller, we're prepared to respond to some of the matters that you had talked to us about. And we just kind of wanted to flush out the sea, what you may have learned from Andre about this. So for the estimation differences, our understanding is that the team has been using a particular Miami-Dade County rule and regulations section 2.063H. There are no specifics in the Florida statute stating how much you can overestimate or underestimate where there are very specific actions that need to be taken when estimating bills. And that's pursuant to section 25, 30.335. So anything that has been estimated uses an average of the last four readings and the team bills residential is quarterly. And they also usually take the average of the last 12 months of prior usage for commercial and multi-family, which are built monthly for residential that are built quarterly, also for the last four readings. So that's what we have at this time. Did that? Fantastic, so that means that it's okay to do that. Yeah, again. And we have no ordinances against it, right? Right, again. And we have no ordinances against it, right? Right, yeah. They use those particular statutes and sections that I cited before to make sure they're in compliance with that. Excellent. Thank you. No, I don't want us to trip over our own ordinances, you know? I understand. Okay. All right. Thank you. And again, let us know. We could provide any more clarification for you. Okay, just email us, okay. Thank you. To piggyback on the last conversation on the Interconnects and their wholesale, we had been talking to Bob Arbor for quite a bit. And I think the break even was a $1.75,000. And it was like, that was the point where we would have to beat. That compensation go back full director. Yeah. I want to say the time, but it's being a long time. Okay, right. And it seems Helen Dale has been really actively buying from us every now and then. Do you ever go visit them? Actually, I can. Do you know what they're worth? I can't come on up. I kill used to be an engineer there. Tell us a little bit about Helen Dale. So, what's their capacity? I think we were at six. So this is in my previous life, I was not a consultant. I used to be an assistant city engineer for the city of Palano Beach. I worked in municipal government for about five, six years. So I was there when we had water main breaks and we had to do maintenance on the water treatment plant and we bought water from NNB. And I met Karim several years ago when we had to negotiate because we had to schedule shutdowns when we were doing that. So we did a lot of work with NNB and Halondale when I was there. Thank you. But even to this day, they continue reaching out to us regularly to turn to Vavon. Are they using our water because they are at capacity or? I think they have a lot of mechanical failures. Thank you. Thank you. They're frequently. Yeah. The plant is aging and they were doing when I was there. We had a lot of upgrades to the plant that we were getting. High service pumps, new buildings, new equipment. So when you get these critical infrastructures that you have to turn valves and things are not closing 100%. For example, we had a shutdown this week at the Northward Plant and we had the closed valves to make connections in tie-in pipes. When you try to do that in Halondale on some of the older pipes, the valves doesn't close 100%. It breaks, some things happen, and when you're talking like 36-inch and 96-inch pipe, that's a lot of water. And we, or at the time, the city had to provide customers of water, so we had to close that, open up the interconnect, and allow the residents to get water when we were doing those type of things. But it wasn't often, but it happened. Awesome. Okay. Thank you, Akeel. So I presented before you several months ago, earlier this year, about some of our projects. And I was just wanted to give you guys an update on what we've done this year and give you a little insight on what's maybe coming up and some of the other things we're involved with. So I had presented that we were working hand in hand with FDOT and the Golden Glacier and the Change Improvement Project, which is an eight-year project. We have done a lot of installations this past year. 4000 lantern feet of new 4, 6 and 8 inch water mains needed to be done. Designed by my in-house team in engineering and built by our in-house crews here at the utility and the engineering team would support the unit house crew with surveying and with inspections which we did and we've had to do five separate projects within the Golden Glades, which included many waterline relocations as well due to conflicts, and to go over a little bit on some of the future projects. I want to mention that in these six or eight months that we've been out there, I've personally dealt with their project manager on a regular basis, on a weekly basis, literally, and he's told me numerous times that we are their favorite utility to deal with. So, yes. We're very responsive. We're on top of things. They love the work that we do. We follow the plans. We know how to read plans. We don't mess up, so they love us. Karim, how far west does our system go? A 37 to have in you. 37? So just on the other side of St. Thomas University. Okay. So of course you all know the golden glades. And so this is the map that is playing your packages basically. If we start with the green rectangle there on the east side of the interchange that's basically the northwest second avenue road there that's right next to the hospital, just west of the hospital. We had to do a water main relocation there, a valve insertion, and we've completed that last month. If we go down to the red rectangle, that's Northwest Sixth Avenue, which is the service road just on the east side of I-95 and basically from 151st Street, all the way to Biscayne Canal, we replaced and installed 1200 linear feet of six inch water main and some fire hydrants. We just passed the back tees and the pressure tests, actually just a couple of weeks ago when we're tying that in. And then on the north side of the skin canal, on 6th Avenue, we're about to commence the next phase of that, which is 1,200 linear feet of 8 inch water main. And they've asked us to hold off. They're having some issues with some of their own drainage work and their redesigning so they want us to wait maybe for us to go after them rather than us go ahead of them. And if we go to the other side on the pink segment which is on between northwest 7th Avenue and 995, which is really called 6th Court back there. We've installed 1300 linear feet of four inch water main, retired, all 2s and 3s that were in conflict with the retaining wall with some of the widening. They're basically widening 995, I wanna say 20 feet on each side. So everything has to be moved over. And they've taken a lot of the land as well on the west side. They're about some homes. And if we move up a little bit to the blue and the orange, that is a seventh avenue going around the interchange all the way to the industrial park there where the arch is that. We installed some 10 inch mains, some six inch mains relocated and abandoned some old lines. There's quite a bit of work there. That's kind of where we started. And then lastly, the purple on the top left, that is the turnpike. So they're doing some work there as well. You've probably already seen some new ramps that they've installed. They're putting pilings everywhere. It's a war zone over there. And we're having to remove some 18 inch mains of 400 and some odd feet of 18 inch and 16 inch mains. And that is in progress. We're working on that right now. We just received some restrained bells and clamps to do some of that work. But I think it's a lot of work. I think it's we've been very successful and very proud of my engineering team and I'm very proud of our construction team. Are we getting it? Thank you. Are we getting any funding current from that for these relocations or is that all? There's one section on 441 where we had eight inch main located in some easements. the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. I mean, the same thing. that was not that was not yeah reading that but we're doing you know those lines are an upgrade because those lines were three inch and four inch so six inch or larger gives us fire flow so I've added fire flow along that corridor boost the pressure to those homes on in biscuit gardens where you got a lot of new construction those cutting out apartments that are going right there exactly so in fact I helped the DOT with those, because I knew about the projects they didn't know about. There was a lack of coordination. There's a bunch more going in there. I know, I know. So I'm involved in all of those, and that's really the next segment. I don't really have a slide for that, but let me just go through this here real quick. There's some pictures showing one of my staff there on the left inside doing some surveying. The young engineers, I taught them how to operate the levels and the transits in the metals and pictures of some the pipe that we've installed going on the NIFA drain. Straight pipe there and our excavators. This just gives you an idea of some of the things that they've done on, oh, that's on six tab and you right there. Creme, those new projects that are going in there, there's one I think it's 450 units on the north side of 159 and 6. Yeah, that's a raise, yeah, raise, yeah. Yeah, and the other one on the south side. South side is Carolina. Apartment. 236 units or so. You know, we should be getting the benefit of the impact fee. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the I can't remember the amount. It was quite just on the need for 100,000. Like that. That would be good. I don't have a slide for this, but I want to give you guys a little update on some of the other things that we do. As Prisha mentioned, a couple of the developer projects. At previously mentioned, we have a lot of developer projects. So at previously mentioned we have a lot of developer projects. Well I did account this week in our files and we have 71 developer projects in our system. And I broken down by city just to give you an idea. And the biggest one is really in our own city. We have 21 in the books that are coming up in North Miami Beach. And the next big area and you probably have seen this is in the OGIS area which is up Miami Gardens and Dixie I have 15 projects up there all apartments. And then in the city of Miami Gardens I have 15 projects, unincorporated day county 12, adventurer 3, sunny-eyes 4, and golden beach 1. So, that's a lot of projects going on. All of those is reviewed by my team. We review them for the new water connections. We perform the inspections on the new lines, and then we review the as-built and the records and the easements and all that kind of stuff so from Inception to conclusion and with my my small team But we're get it done and that's really good right and In addition to that, you know, we have small connections for homes, Golden Beach, Sonny Isles, Sky Lake, or some homes in Sky Lake as well. So we have to, right, I know. So we're inspecting those as well, and we will have plans to do some upgrades in those areas as well. Coming up for my design team, we have a 30-inch water main relocation at the Northwood Water Plant that we have to put plants together and we're gonna install the pipe. And on 159th Street, between six to avenue, North West and North West Second Avenue, we're gonna replace some old lines there on both sides. All those lots are slated for redevelopment. They're already been... Right, I think there's three homes left on the north side and just a couple on this outside, but that area is very mucky and our old lines are all corroded. Yeah, sure. And then some other dead end elimination projects to improve water quality in the fire flow. I have a question. So a lot going on and there's a water increase, you know, increase in our water volume right there. So with the 71 projects that are coming up, like what is the anticipated like MGD that we're looking at? Oh, MGD. So a looking at? Oh MGD. So a lot of those, I don't really have a number for you, but basically a lot of those, you know, if they're redevelopment, let's say you're demolishing, well if it was on the beach, you're demolishing maybe a 200 room motel to build a 300 apartment 60-story condo, right? So that almost ends up being a wash. But in some other places like in the city, where we're doing all these projects on 163rd Street there, those various apartments that going in, like Ataloreno's and so on and so forth. And you're demolishing a one story building and you're putting in a 22 story apartment, and yes, there's definitely an increase in demand for the plant, yes. Right, so what is the estimated amount? Like you would, it just does stab in the dark. I don't know, of that 25 and the 41 that we have. Oh, a tarot stat. Six million. Six. Six, six, six million. Six. Six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Six, six million. Okay, you know So golden beach we're putting on you city hall, you know that may just be Refute to a few yeah a few thousand gallons. It's not that much Very nothing if they just flush the toilet right, right, but there's you know, it's it varies quite a bit No, what I was good what I was thinking of was do we have a future expansion plan? Do we have a future expansion plan? Further water plant? No. I think that what we've been doing is uncle. We've got the tank. That would allow us to grow from 41 to. But we're not on demand first. We are at 24 million right now. Use usage right now. No, I know. I'm just saying that like you know we it looks like the city has a couple of projects coming up to. Yeah. Right of like these you know there's a building on 163rd. Yeah, but it's not going to take up 12 or 15 million. No, I mean it's like one million gallons. I'm thinking there's room to add. It's a bell harbor issue. Yeah, yeah. But first, you need to look at it in a different way. Yes, we have the capacity to produce 41 million gallons. Right now, we only produce in 25. It's the demand. but you also said to me that the storage is the problem it's the only thing exactly we got and the new tank and fit right my million double okay and you have to have going to destroy another tank that is obsolete is metal. Right. So, we gaining 3 million, we're going to demolish one that is the one that is demolition. I see. We're demolishing a two to gain a five. And you have to have reserve capacity. If one of your largest treatment unit goes down, you need to be able to sustain demand. So you can't really push it to the limit. You have to have that buffer. Exactly. So that's what I was asking you. Like, is there like an expansion plan? Because the city's only going to get more dense, right? And I was thinking like, hmm, do we, you know, how do we look at all the filetrations and all the systems and including like enlarging the capacity if need be? Right. I mean, we've already we plan for that already. That's what the big expansion was 10 years ago to all that filtration. In fact, you see the blank space in the floor and that's for future creation. Right. Some more skids and stuff like that. That is planned too. Right. That's great. I mean, that's what I'm checking and not. Yeah. Just wanted to make sure that like, you know, we're not, you know, running the whole thing down until we have, you know, until we're actually not being able to grow. The same may vary, man. We're, these guys are on top of. No, I know they're pro. No, it it's good question, though. And the master plan has been done a couple times in the past 20 some odd years. And they're look at population projections. And the population really hasn't grown that much. Not really. Actually, we lost the population. So it's like growing in density, meaning the building. Because I think the planning and zoning still has a couple thousand units left to build inside the city. Right? And of course the CRA is giving away tiff money. That means that they're going to build in more capacity as well. So. No, no, no. It covers a lot of units. No, I know, I know. And I think that some of this work has been done in the past 15 years has been with the anticipation of this population growth which hasn't gotten there yet so. So the last the last master plan was done when was that done? What I'm not really sure I don't really get involved with those. I mean it was done during Jacob's as a Jacob. Oh.17. Okay, not too long ago. All right, great. Thank you. We are planning to do a new master. Yes, renew the master plan. Some of the projects that is in the master plan is already done. So we need is new. Yes, it's a live document. Awesome, Pedro, thank you. But I wanted to say something about this project. I am very proud of what Korean and what are distribution have been done. We start this project. When I came in, it wasn't the planning. I know Korean is met with engineering, FDOT, a lot of coordination. And we start late. We start maybe late February. And out of 12, if you go to my office, you're going to see 12 projects in there. We're down to two or three. And it's not easy working with FD on it. I can tell you that. But I'm very proud of the team. The whole team is good. We're going to give you 110%. Oh, well what we have. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Appreciate that. Thank you so much. Oh, Mr. Greg. My farewell. My farewell. Please. Good evening commissioners and everyone. My sentiments are the same. I'm so proud to be a part of this team. And we have a real good team. I spent some time talking with Karim yesterday and today. And we was just highlighting all the different projects that we're doing. So I love N&B. It's a great city. We're doing great things, particularly N&B water, as the words of DJ Cali, we the best. Okay, let's get this party started. Community outreach, update, proud to say we didn't meet in August, but in July we did the residence academy, which was pretty nice because we had some selected stakeholders, community leaders that came and commissional and so you were there. We were able to talk about, we hosted many of them. We were able to talk about the water plant and the different facets of it and how we produced the water and the lab and all of that all the interesting things that the inquiring minds like to know and we were able to answer a lot of questions and it was a very exciting group and you can see some of the beautiful pictures that we took a commission of Smith was there as well we had about 12 to 15 people so it was just a great opportunity to share and we were able to step back on the nostalgic times of N&B when we used to bottle water and all that good stuff. So we talked about a lot of good things and so it was exciting. So it was July 15th residents academy and I know they did it in a lot of different departments in the city. And so we were just glad to be able to share the great things that we were doing in NNB water. And in the month of August, it was National Water Quality Month. And some of the things we did to motivate the public and get the word out about it was we put it on newsletter and we successfully got it out on all our social media platforms and we made everybody aware of national quarterly, a national water quality month and importance in water and how we protect water and how we take pride in our water. In conjunction of that, we were able to be a part of the forum that we put together at the Jewish Litman Performance Art Theatre. We didn't have a standing room only event, but it was a short notice event that we kind of put together within a week and a half and some of the residents came out and we talked about the various topics, customer service, which is near and dear to all of our hearts, community outreach and capital improvement projects. And as you can see, we are really growing as a city. So we're able to talk about all of that and it capital improvement projects. And as you can see, we are really growing. And as a city, so we're able to talk about all of that. And it's really exciting. So we look forward to doing a lot more of that good stuff. And what's really going on right now, real time, we're doing the annual chlorine disinfection of the water system, which is commonly known as flushing, just to ensure that our water system is properly maintained and that started on September the 9th and it goes to September 22nd. And we're doing it throughout the entire system. Typically we don't do an in conjunction with Miami-Dade but somehow another both Miami-Dade and Wassa and Nesity and not Miami Beach. We're doing it in conjunction which is pretty neat. So everybody's on the same page. And last but not least, I think this gives us some bragging rights right now, upcoming event that's going on on the 26th. The American Water Works Association is putting together the regional seven, best of the best, water, drinking water, taste contest. We were, as you know, last year we were the champions and will still be the champions no matter what the outcome is. The good news back in 2003 we were the state champions. Hopefully we will not only go and defend our championship for the region but we will win for the state again. Thank you very much if there's not any questions. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Any other questions at all? You're going to win again this year. You got it. There you go. Thank you so much. Would expect no less. One question about the chlorine testing. Is it going to really affect the drinking water from the faucet? It very well could. There may be a taste difference, and we're making the residents aware just for a short period. I'll let the technical guy come. Yeah, because it says between the 9th and the 22nd, so it's kind of long period of time. But it obviously not all the areas at the same time, right? So the disinfection process of the water plant has changed on the 9th. So typically we inject chlorine and ammonia to disinfect the water. So during the spirit we're doing chlorine only. So it's called a free chlorine disinfection process. And already that chlorine is already reached out to the extremities of our system. So yes, your water will taste a little bit more chlorine-like. But it's not dangerous because it's monitored by the health department and all that good stuff. But there be no discoloration or with it. So sometimes what happens is when we flush the far hydrants would disturb the sediments in the pipe so you may see some cloudiness. If we are meant to be flushing down your street, but if not, then you won't see anything different. So during those two weeks, actually my team spearheads that, we flush about 800 fire hydrants over the course of the two weeks. I think thank you very much. And so you know we're communicating with the public about all of this and we met with the entire team that will be on the streets and we kind of gave them some direction about we know the pressure may change, color may change and as you point pointed out and maybe the taste. And so we're ready to talk with the public and disseminate information pertaining any of that, just in case they reach out to us on all our social media platforms and they can call it. No, it's like like I am the president of my condo if somebody approaches me about what's going on that I'd be able to give them some information. Yes, commissioning, yeah. You can always call us. Okay. Just howled to boy. Thank you so much. Mr. Williams, can I, I want to bring this up. And I mean, I was thinking about the water forum. Okay. It was a shame that we didn't have enough participation. Yeah. Public. And I think it had to do with the timing. Yeah. Right. And I think it had to do with the timing. Yeah. Right? We had it a little too early. Well, I think, yeah, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were, we were were, we were, yeah, four p.m. Yeah, we got a short request window. And so we put it together real quick. Oh. And now we typically would take a month to advertise something like that. We did it in less than a week. Who was pressuring you? There was no pressure. It was just a good request. I'll pressure. Who was giving you the windows? Sorry. Well, I could rephrase my question. It was requested for us to put it together. And Andrea, we wanted to move it along. And so I see. We have bosses so moving forward I hope that you can have it at a later time or something and and advertise like you said so newsflash or stay tuned we'll be doing the ribbon cuttings and things like that but we let everybody know well in advance you know I think a way to attract a lot of people is to do the Norwood tour. Because like, you know, then you can give the info session, have the Q and A at the same time and they could see how wonderful our water plant is. Yeah, we just wanna be a little careful because of safety and so much fun in the North. Security issues. Security, yeah. If it was a different kind of world, we would open it up like Disney, but. They're like Disney. You have to design the water plant, newly. So that there's a whole rail between. It was really designed to be a kind of water imploreum to put people to come, the classrooms, and all that to educate and open it up to the public. But time's a different. Are you, are you, are you, are you moving out, moving out of the building across the street? No, no, still across the street. We haven't been able to get there. We're not thinking of moving that over to the plant. They're moving back, they're moving back. In fact, doing the carpet. Yeah. Now, I think tomorrow we're going back to our office. Yep. Oh, process three. Yes, sir. Yeah, we're the Jefferson's. We just moved off. Make an example for you to make an effort. Are they at the water plant? Well, we don't have enough faith for everybody at the water plant. Yeah, and I was I was at the office in his book chief. Yeah, we split in three ways. Yeah. Uh, where would it take to, uh, to, you know, to get you some office over there. So you don't have the split. Any building in here, huh? Yeah. Huh? This, and your building is, uh, we only got limited space in the actual administrative building that we have. So we got several divisions. Like for example, water distribution is in the way to West, wastewater division. And the water plan you have division 901 that is the lab, water quality control, the production that is the operators and the maintenance. So we already have enough people there. Right now we are improvising conference room to have, like for example, the finance department is working out of there. Isn't that ideal? Here in the- There's no room at 159. I know Andrea was trying to move around but to be realistic it's going to take more than. Yes, move we need the condition to work in there. Okay Thank you chair make a recommendation is to which you would like to see how we gotia's on here. Mr. Chair, may I talk about our upcoming budget? Sure. Thank you. So Greg runs away as soon as I talk about budget. Well, I mean, I'm looking at the budget from the city manager, our water operation. What's the difference between water operation fun and water implant fun? Do you know? Yes, I'm actually carrying this the one who collect all the implant funds. So now they're all pointing fingers at each other. Like no, you. Oh, no, no, no. Yes. I just want to understand the difference between the two. That's not a problem. We also have the... We have a kill. Oh, no. No, no, a kill. Kagan. Kagan is our finance manager. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. He sat here all this time for a good reason. Is our finance manager? Oh, okay. What did you come up with? He sat here all this time for a good reason. I'm sorry, was it your question? Oh no, it's gonna ask you the difference between water operational fund, water in plant fund, and actually sewer operational fund and sewer in plant fund. Like all of these funds add together, totaling about close to like 60 million, over 60, 70 million dollars. Okay, so the public utilities is made up of nine divisions and the impact fees that Carim's division collects, they are in a separate fund. So the 420 for water, impact fees, that's its own fund, and on the wastewater side, it has its own fund as well. And that's called the implant? Correct. Okay, that, okay, got it, so that's the impact fund. All right, and then I think like, you know, I know we are looking for now that we, Andreas Gone and we have Pedro. Like, are we looking to hire any other in-house professionals? Cause remember that when we shifted over from Jacobs, it took six months we were rushing to get it back in house. And we still haven't been able to hire the people that we need, right? I know that we tried to get people here. Right now we got three positions that I know that it being open more than you're going to resume directors, right? I'm sorry. Are you going to be our director from now? No, no, no, no. Why are you so going to resume director, is that right? I'm sorry? Are you going to be our director from now? No, no, ma'am. Why are you so quick to the night? Because I... I never asked to be here. Actually, when I got... I got call, I pushed to condition. One was out of the commission meeting, and the other one was the day-to-day operation. Tried to be honest. I stay so I can help out. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's a question for the city manager, not for. Right. No, I understand. I understand. I'm just thinking if that had been passed on to the city manager and. No, no. These are where I'm just thinking if that had been passed on to the city manager and. No, no, no. These are worth it, sure. No, but I will stay as long that I can to help out. But remember, I will retire. Can I say, you did a good job though. Yeah. Yeah, so far so good, right? I don't know about nervous should just too cool, man. My questions are complete. I think you're right. Right. All right. Anything else? I'm going to be at the end of your report, so nobody here. OK, Mr. Cousin, you're up. What do you want to say is? Let's close up the meeting with Mr. Cousin. I have one thing to say. I know Pedro very long time. He is a wonderful, wonderful person. I can tell. Thank you. It's not about one director or another director. It's about the team that you have. The people who know the work that we do. Yes. And we recognize that. We recognize that from here. It's obvious. Yeah. The information you guys bring is second to none. Yeah. Good evening, everyone. Ma'Bari Kazan. Being here for 22 years, it is the director, as well as the team. I've seen directors stared this operation that we've had a successful operation to all I want to thank Andrea Suarez for the time she has been here. Wonderful person. Great job. I hope we can do that best in water again. Without her. See if she was the key or not. However, sometimes when we are talking and screen is there, not blank, but I'm seen from April to August, and it's stuck there for like 20 minutes. Last night, they had a debate and some one of the candidates said, go to that debate. I'm not going to say who, who, who, who's but go to go to that, um, whatever they have speech and it is boring and people leave. Well, guess what? We can't attract the crowd as those people, those two. But we can do something here instead of the screen stock here, you know, and people would like to be inclusive in the conversation as well. So if you can just when we have the discussions, you move it to see the participants. Two weeks shut off. I have a neighbor. Nine months. Then you get like a red notice. So that two weeks thing, we need to back up on it. And you know, the P22 meter, that went in one month from 1.9, 1.5 million in one year. The next year was 55.1 million. The Adconcty was asking for. There were no proper accountability that was done. We heard that monies were taken from the CIP funding, or it was not. Some doubted it. Some say yes. And that needs to be looked into, not just the pickards. And we have the dedicated headhunter, that Commissioner for the Smith and Oxford since last year. And that is why you're short of staff. And that is why I think, you know, the director was not getting the cooperation, a little train the towel. You know, we can't be like this here, here in the air out. I've been talking every month about this $6.5 million delinquent fees and we can't move on. You know, the link went, fees on weekend, move on. It's stock and we need employees. We need the new employees. Last meeting, we had a $6.2 million passed in two minutes. Thank you. That's a couple more seconds. In two minutes, $6.2 million passed for the water plant. And there was no explanation then. One of the commissioners, Mr. Flormann, said, oh, but did you remember that then we have like an explanation when the one was $6.5 million. You didn't say one is $6.5 million, but I'm saying it. The one is $6.5 million. When that was passed, they had an explanation. I was in the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the mayor of Piper, he was not in the commissioner then. There are a few others who are not there. When these 105, 106.5 million was passed, there was no explanation. And at that time when it passed the 106.5 million, it says when they have the smaller items, when it come down to the smaller items, you would have more detailed explanation. Guess what? We've had something million passed, we've had 6.2 million pass as of last meeting. And there was basically no explanation. And that is not transparency, what you guys had promised. It needs to be something that at least we can get like that $6.2 million explanation here tonight. We still have more time. And there are a lot of expensive items that comes up just after the PUC meetings. So the commission meetings, but we never heard it at the PUC and then we're like, wow, why didn't we get an explanation at the PUC meeting? You know, we've been rambling, we've been hiring, going home quickly, and all these things. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you, thank you. He brings up a valid point. I think that can we lay this out before it gets to the commission meeting, what your requests are. No, in other words, if you're gonna have this $6.2 million request going to the commission for approval. Could we know about it here? We did. So just a clarification and I'll start from the beginning. So the $6.2 million is a reference to the two projects that I had to get cleared. Yes, I wanted to keep on point with Mr. Cyan. Well, the 106.5, that was the WIFIA. The WIFIA. No, the six, the, well, yes, that's separate. The 6.2 million is in reference to the one that happened a couple meetings ago for the commission. It was in reference to the joint bid project, which is the two sewer projects that we've been talking about multiple times. So when I've been explaining about going out to bid and getting advertisement, that was in reference to that product, give me a second. And I can go into some smaller. The bell. Yes, right there. So bell garden is a master palm station. It was a combined effort. So when we combined it, after we went out to bid and we got the contract on board, I think the product got it up to about $6.2 million. And that's we needed to get the approval from the commission to go through the procedure to award that to the contractor and open the POs. So that's where that $6.2 million came from. So they'll go back a little bit more. Those projects as we spoke about earlier tonight and we've been doing previous nights. All these projects, from enjoy of these projects, are part of your CIP. So we're just bringing them, they were already discussed, they're already outlined, they're already identified as part of the CIP plan, and now we're going at the detail. So everything that we talk about at the PUC eventually goes on the commission meeting and we do talk about it. So what I can do for us here is maybe work on, I guess the naming convention, because we did have this on there as Belgrin as a master pump station, but I believe in parentheses, we call it joint bid, because amongst ourselves within the city, we combined it to make it a joint bid moving forward. But that was in reference to those two projects that we spoke about multiple PUC meetings. I've updated you guys on every step of the way when we completed design, when we completed the bidding phase, went through procurement, when we had issues with procurement. We brought that up to the day is multiple times. Is it possible you can just put that number there at the 6.2? In the next one. What I can do. I second that. And then I'll do what I'll do in the next meetings, I'll put the cost there. And the reason we don't put cost is because these products are in different phases. So for example, I can put the operation center. I have a bunch of park. We have the raw water and transmission. We have a cost estimate. So we don't have a real number until we go out to bid. So after October, I can put the real number. So what I'll commit to is once we have a real number, a bid number, I'll put those numbers on there so we can track that as we move through the entire process. But we do talk, so just for clarification, we do bring everything to the PUC and it is discussed in detail. Right, okay. Yeah. This is a mention. These are what are going to's coming before the commission. Right. So out of something show up on a white paper. And this. Yeah, understood. And then there's new explanations. And the commission. We did. How are we already did out a couple of years ago? And we have new members. Understood. So several new members. Don't know anything. A couple of even I don't know a couple of years ago, what has been going on? Well, the problem is that we used to have some kind of power. I remember years ago, we used to vote on stuff before something went to the commission. And then for some reason or other, a couple of years ago, we stopped voting on anything. Because it was something was presented to us and it was up to us to vote on it before it was presented to the city commission. Now this thing stopped completely and I remember at some point two or three years ago we were actually asking for some more teeth because we thought that this commission doesn't have any teeth. So we were trying to ask to please give us a little bit more power. So we have more input towards going on and nothing happened. So obviously what we're doing here, we're just sitting and we are listening and no matter what we say we don't vote on anything and then it goes to the commission they can override us of course but still at least maybe they will consider our opinion the way it is doing going right now it's a waste of time'm sorry, but that's how I feel. We get the information from you, of course, fantastic. I am very grateful for that. But it doesn't happen. It doesn't help anything. We're just listening and talking. And it's all wonderful. But when it comes to the actually making decisions the city commission does it without any input from us. Thank you very much. It broke up because of politics. In the past when we were in the Netherlands there, they used to have votes and then it eroded as you know as you had like about three commissions got dropped off from there with my governor and things just went a while and that's where it started fall before it started falling apart and then it almost concluded there but then it got worse and then it took away the powers from you after 2018, the 19, the took away those powers. I know they're individual as well, they're individuals as well. So I'm not going to say anything here. I get one question. It was all politics going with politics. All right, well, we're going. So in summary, we'll commit to adding the bid contract amounts where the actual, you can't. When they're real numbers one will do that when they're being presented to the commission so and when we'll do that and then I'll also add when when they're going to be planned on doing because one of the other things is we would say we anticipate to go on let's say the October meeting but if it doesn't get to the end or doesn't get approved then I get bumped to the next meeting. So I'll have to update you as that goes through. And I think I've done that on several of these. As I mentioned, like raw water transmission, we anticipate to be on the October commission meeting, but hopefully that goes well. And we can get that voted on. Commissioner Trump, but don't most of your water go into the consent agenda? I think it depends on the dollar amount. It's just a million and a dozen. Right, so most of the stuff you're right, but with our CIP, we're way over that threshold. Because we're looking at a minimum of like, at least a million for some of these construction projects or more. Commissioner, that's another valid reason why to have two meetings a month, you know, if you can do that, if you can suggest that, make the case. You know, keep doing it, keep doing it because a lot of stuff gets dropped off at the end of the meeting, you know, that's, and when you shift this over another month for approval, it costs, you know, you got a carrying charge, and it's costing money. And it's inflation, but it's just, so we can't do that. And that's your, she could back us up on that. Okay, anything else? We're gonna go ahead and close the meeting. We're motion, either motion. Motion to adjourn. Second. Own favor, aye. Okay, thank you, everybody. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.