Good morning, everyone. If you please find a seat so we can move forward with our meeting and the presentations. Well, first presentation this morning will be for National Surveyor's Week. And it's an honor to recognize and celebrate National Surveyor's Week alongside here with my colleagues. Surveyor's determined and described land and water boundaries for the management of natural resources and protection of private and public property rights. Interesting some of our past presidents, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Abraham Lincoln, all served as surveyors, contributed historical mapping of America in its early years. So, vera an integral part of many industries, such as engineering, construction, urban planning, environmental conservation, and disaster management. Their expertise goes beyond simply majoring land. Surveys transform the physical world into a map that guides how people perceive their surroundings. I'd like to invite up, Lily Sandberg, Chief Deputy County Surveyor, Joseph Padilla, State President of the California Land Surveyor's Association, County Barrett, President of the Orange County Chapter, the California Land Surveyor's Association, Kevin Hills, Past County Surve Survey and for the County of Orange. And the OC Public Works Surveyor team, if you all join us up here, we'd like to recognize you. I'd like to thank our Orange County Public Works Surveyor team for their work and dedication in this field. They provide key services that support the public land use needs and design the construction of projects throughout the county. Courage all Orange County citizens to recognize the many contributions and the ongoing dedication of surveyors throughout the United States. Before Joseph Patia gives a few remarks like any of my colleagues would like to say a few words. Sure. Yeah. Sure. Okay. Go ahead. Good morning, everyone. Katrina Fully County Supervisor, representing the fabulous fifth district, the district covers Costa Mesa, where I live all the way down the coast to San Camini. Today, we celebrate National Surveyor's Week, which is March 16 through the 22nd.. And as the chairman said, Surveyor's are so important to our county governance. They shape the way we live. Surveys measure and map the Earth's surface using a combination of tools from our towns and cities to our streets and homes. They help create safer, better, and happier communities. Thank you to our Orange County Public Works. Wow, there's a big group of you here. Wonderful. Our Orange County Public Works team for the work that you've done in District 5 just a few highlights performing 31 land surveys for John Wayne Airport just at John Wayne Airport 31 land surveys since early 2024 including surveys for the current Taxiway B-Widening project. Producing maps for the planning of the OC Parks Nature Base Project, which is expected to expand the shoreline with natural-style dunes to help address coastal erosion at the site. And providing land surveys of more than 300 curb ramp locations for ADA compliance upgrades within the fifth district. Finally, producing topographic maps for the design of various safety improvements planned along Los Patronas Parkway, including bikeway safety enhancements. This runs through our Rancho Mission VA Home Neighborhoods. More than 100 different types of surveys in property land construction and infrastructure keep our traffic flowing flowing, water running and people moving. Thank you all to our surveyors here at the county and throughout the county and to our public works team for your dedication and your support to make sure that Orange County stays safe and happy. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Now, the problem with today is that National Surveyor's Week was last week. So we are sort of outside the lines. And these guys just have a problem with that. And rightly so. Now, I will say that the chair stole my thunder. I think most folks know sort of as common knowledge that George Washington was a surveyor. Less known is that Lincoln was a surveyor for a very brief time, but two of our greatest presidents served as surveyors. The one that most impresses me though and that, you know, I'd vote to make him or her president is the one that put that blue dot on my GPS map? Whoever's got that down, I really want to thank. Show the important work that these folks do. We thank them for it. And we've got a large group here. It's a lot of work that is being done by these folks, being done well, and we want to thank them for it. Good morning. I'm supervisor Janine Wynn. National Savares Week is an opportunity to celebrate the vital work of land savayers and acknowledge the unique skills and expertise they bring to their professions. Here in Orange County, our savayers and mappers continue to make a significant impact through their expertise and help shape important decisions to benefit our communities. I'm happy to recognize what my colleagues here and celebrate the dedication of those Raves Association. I'm also member of the Wannaniel Band of Mission Indians, the Ashaman Nation located in San Juan Capastrano. I'm about as an original Orange County native as one can be. I have lived in Orange County my whole life. I would like to thank the Orange County Board of Supervisors for their proclamation that they bestowed on my profession. I also want to thank Deputy County Surveyor, Lily Sandberg, who has invited me here today. Hopefully, I'll be addressing her as County Suryor, Sanberg in the near future, but we'll tackle that another time. The month of March is also National Women's Month, and I wanted to point out that land surveying has been a very male dominant profession for a very long time, but lately we have been seeing more and more women getting their license here, like Lily and our Orange County chapter president, County Barrett and Susan Ruiz, a member of the County Surveyor's Office. Even my own daughter recently got her license number 9800 a couple years ago. Very proud of her. Lastly, I do want to mention a few of my mentors and friends that I met at the Orange County Surveyor's office when I was working there as on contract back in the early 90s. County Surveyor John Canis, Deputy County Surveyor's Paul Cuomo, John Pavlik, and Rich Ray. These were all surveyors who gave back to the profession and they helped me on my efforts to get licensed in the early 90s. I'm proud to be have called these men, my friends, and I miss the time that I had with them. They really inspired me to keep going with the land surveying as a profession. I'll be turning 65 at the end of this month, but I am not retiring. I can't think of anything I would rather do than do Lancer Rain. I do like golfing, but I can't do that every day. I'm just too old for that. But again I want to thank the county for this great honor and thank you very much. All right, if we'd all gather for a picture over here. And if any of you have spare time among our surveyors, I think watching DC could use your talent. you you Thank you. the the Thank you. Again, good morning, everyone. I'm the chair, Doug Chaffee, for the Deputy Supervisor, as my honor to recognize women's history month alongside my colleagues. Quite a number coming up, so please join us up here. Now women's history month highlights women's achievements as we continue to empower women to challenge gender inequalities and other concerns. This month serves as a reminder of the lasting mark. Women have met on our history and are ongoing journey towards gender equity. Today is also equal pay day, which reminds us of the persistent disparities that women continue to face today when it comes to economic equality. As a state, California ranks third in nation for pay equity and have some of the strongest equal pay laws in the nation. Orange County women make 3,076 dollars more than their California counterparts, but face a larger gender wage gap with Orange County women compared to men. Equities NUS, just not about equal pay. It also includes dismantling barriers and bases of prevent women from achieving their full potential in life. It's proud to introduce and reestablish the Orange County Commission on the status of women girls last year, which held on September. This help, this commission will help us understand the issues, particularly facing women, and what the county can do to help alleviating the gap between men, women in men in relation to pay, education, healthcare, and business. I might also add sports. March we recognize women's history month to remind us of the enormous progress that's been made and the work that is yet to be done to reach true gender parity. We commend right women's history month today to thank all the women leaders, whether visions, contributions, and achievements in shaping what Orange County is today. So thank you all for coming here to celebrate with us. Vice Chair, you're up next. Good morning. Again Katrina Foley representing the fabulous Fifth District from Costa Mesa where I live and served as one of only eight mayors in the city of Costa Mesa all the way to San Climini. Today we take this opportunity during women's history month to recognize the amazing women educators that we have in Orange County. This year's women's History Month theme is moving forward together, women educating and inspiring generations. As I look around the room and behind me, I see caring community leaders whose work benefits families and students at the county of Orange, while much work remains for full representation, our women department heads work tirelessly for Orange County residents while providing quality, diverse representation, and leadership for women, including our CEO, who is a woman, Michelle McGarry. As a lawyer and law firm owner, I understand the unique role that women have, it jugg and finances, and in traditional, been male-dominated professions. As a mom, I also understand the challenges that we're always expected to do everything. So give women a little bit of grace this month, if you can. Or every month. From classrooms to boardrooms, women educators and leaders in Orange County play a pivotal role in inspiring a transformative action. Educators build up the workforce. They develop students who grow up to manage small businesses, protect the environment, build and maintain open spaces and parks cultivate the arts, enforce neighborhood safety and more. I want to acknowledge the three women that I, the three educators that I invited today, Dr. and Helika Suarez, president of Orange Coast College. She was the first Latina president, yeah, clap for her. First Latina president of OCC, and only the second woman president at OCC. With more than 20 years of experience as an educational leader, she now oversees one of Orange County's largest community colleges. And if you haven't been to Orange Coast College lately, you should stop by. It is like a university campus. They even have dorms. Dr. Suarez has championed statewide reform and initiatives to close student achievement gaps. She advocates for students by serving on multiple boards, the California Community Colleges Chief Executive Officers, the California Community College Athletic Association, and Girls Inc. of Orange County. Dr. Suarez understands the financial challenges of students, including housing. To remedy this issue, she helps students get access to the dorms at OCC. Dr. Swar is and I have worked on many students trying to get access to the dorms and to be able to have stable lives. Dr. Juliana Barnes is here. You're here. Chancellor of South Orange County Community College since 2022. Under Dr. Barnes, South Orange County Community College remains a pivotal force in the Orange County economy, with approximately $1.9 billion annual impact. The college serves as a contributor to 20,000 plus jobs produced in the county. Dr. Barnes's strategic vision and her commitment to educational excellence have empowered students to invest deeply in themselves, which is a direct correlation to future earnings potential. Dr. Barnes is dedicated to offering students and education that transcends traditional expectations and limitations. And finally, I'm invited Dr. Kathleen Traceter. Dr. Traceter is a professor of climate action in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at UC Irvine. And she's been on the Irvine City Council since 2022. She also served on my climate action task force here at the county. Dr. Traceter leads an internationally recognized research program studying how climate change affects endangered ecosystems and our society. She and her husband founded the Traceter Randerson Fund, which supports programs for crime victims, refugees, those in pandemic-related stress, Asian-American immigrants, and environmental justice. Women today constitute nearly half of our workforce. They're at the forefront of social change, business, science, government, math, art, literature, film, athletics. You name it. We are everywhere. But we're still only earning about 57% of the bachelor degrees and 61% of the master's degrees and 55% of the doctorate degrees. So if we continue to support education and continue to support women in education, they will be able to have a higher earning potential into the future. This Sunday for our fourth annual women making a difference, brunch, we're recognizing women educators in our district and we look forward to celebrating them and all of you here today and I want to also give a shout out to Robin Grant who is in district five who is on the city council for Newport Beach. Thank you all for being here today and I appreciate all the work you a big hand. Women's History Month is a time to honor the remarkable achievements of women who have shaped our war. Women's History Month was created by Congress in 1987. It is also celebrated in the UK and Australia. This month reminds us of the trailblazers who broke barriers and opened doors for our future generations. We want to recognize the outstanding woman in our community who lead, innovate, and inspire positive change. Not only are they leaders in our communities, but their moms, grandma, sisters, aunts. They do it all. The expectation on women is we can do it all. If you want someone to charge, put a woman in charge. Or you want to get it done. And so, you know, I have here today in celebration of this recognition. Join me. I have is Silbeach Mayor, Lisa Landell, Hinton Beach Mayor, Pro Tem, former Mayor, Gracie Van der Mark, Newport Beach Council Member, Robin Grant, La Palmer Council Member, former Mayor, Debbie Baker, Cypress Council Member, Bonnie Pete, Los Alamedos Mayor, Pro Tem, former Mayor, Tanya Dobby. I also have Perler Mendoza, who runs and founded Project Project Eli who goes and continue to help in our community not just in Orange County but across the state of California to promote and advocate on behalf of saving our children's against FETNO. All these women standing up here today continue to to positive impact our community and deserve to be recognized during the significant month, but not just for this month. It's every month. Every one of us here works every day to making sure that our family, our community and the future of our children and the community's children thrive and know that the sky is the limit. As we celebrate, let's continue to continuing supporting an uplifting woman in our lives and communities. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Buenos dias, San Vicente, San Miento, Orange County Supervisor for the second district. Thank you, Vice Chair, for bringing this item. It's so important for us to celebrate not just this month, but all year long, the women who lead and the women who are here as part of our county and our country as well. So thank you for presenting women's history month, celebrating and recognizing the resilient women who have tirelessly fought for their contribution and roles that they've played in shaping our society and our history. We women have always been an integral part of our history but specifically for me I was built by women. I have a strong mother, I have an incredible sister who I lost who was a civil rights attorney last year and she made sure that I found my way to this place So I want to recognize them But I also want to take a little time to recognize somebody who doesn't come to these meetings very often Which is my wife and so she was here in my swearing in but she's here now her name is evacasa Sardinento stand up So we'll be hearing a little bit more about her in the next presentation as well, but I'm going to just go ahead and embarrass her for a little bit. She is a managing attorney at the Office of Client Rights Disability Rights California. She graduated from Berkeley, received her law degree from Loyola Law School, but also raised three incredible kids. Our oldest will be starting medical school at UC San Diego in the fall. Our middle child is going to be starting Harvard Law School in the fall. And for those lawyers, he is one of a hundred people in the world that got a perfect score on the Law School admissions test. So... Thank you. So he takes after his mom. But, and my youngest is our daughter. She is the only girl that we have. She's finishing up her first year at USC. She's breaking my heart because I'm a Bruin. But nonetheless, I love her, and she is much smarter than both her brothers put together. But in any event, we also have some incredible women leaders here in our community. And one of them is Dorothy Mulkey, who we've recognized here in the past for Black History Month. She is no more than five feet tall. But she took a case to the Supreme Court and fought against housing discrimination here in San Ana. We also have the blessing of having people like Felicitha Mendez, who was part of the Mendez V. Westminster case. And that was a landmark case that ruled that segregation, segregating Mexican American students in California schools was unconstitutional and it paved the way for Brown versus Board of Education. So we have some legacy here in this county from some very, very powerful women and I want to thank them for their leadership and their families as well. But we're also joined by leaders here today from our school boards and I want to take a little time just to recognize them because they are extremely not only powerful and successful women in their own fields, but they, you know, I'm very proud to call them my friends because I know that they've had some incredible journeys in their own life, but they are representing school districts, paving the way for children, making sure that they have quality education, quality public education here in our county. And I want to thank, first of all, Caitlin Brazier-Acevis from the San Annie Ud Fight School District. She's a trustee. And she is also my appointee to the commission on the status of women and girls. And she is now the chair of that commission. So thank you, Chair Asevis, and her family, her husband is here in the audience, Razorhan, brother, come on. You know, behind us wrong, woman, there's a good man, right? So thank you for being here. Also from Orange Unified School District, let me recognize somebody who is now presiding as the president of that school board. That is Chris Erickson. Chris. Applause. She's a lawyer and she's somebody incredibly important to that school district. I know she's making sure that they're leading the way and making sure that curriculum and everything that students need are well kept. And I know her parents are here, so parents, you created something incredible. So, he's pointing to the mom. So, you know, you had a little bit of something to do with that, right dad? So, thank you both for being here and you should be extremely proud of Chris and all her accomplishments. Finally, Allison Demi-Kalus, who is a test-in-unified school district trustee. And her mother is in the audience, Mom. She's a one who's recording her. Thank you, Mom, for lending Alison to us and creating that environment for her to succeed. She is literally a rocket scientist. So when you say, I have no rocket scientist, she is a rocket scientist. But I just want to say that those three women along with everybody who's in the field of education has my respect because you helped, again, help us as parents develop the skills in our family and our children to be able to excel. So these empowering young women in our education system have advocated for change and inspire future generations. Last week, our office had the honor of hosting a women's luncheon where some of the women from the most diverse backgrounds came and shared their experience and networked amongst themselves. So I am extremely grateful for all their advocacy. We know that these educators, these school board trustees will make sure that they also, as we look to the future and support the success of women, will also reflect on the accurate history that we've had, where women didn't have the right to vote. Women didn't have the right to hold property. And women had divorce and custody laws against them that favored men. So all those things we need to understand, we need to reflect on because as we go into the future for everybody, we need to know what our true history is and where we come from. It makes those achievements that much more successful and that much more important. So on behalf of all the residents in the second district, thank you all for doing what you do. Let's celebrate women all year long. Thank you everybody. All right. So apparently we get to brag on our family members here. And it is, it is in fact great to be able to celebrate National Women's History Month. In part because I do have firsthand an opportunity to see women in action in our community throughout this country doing absolutely fantastic work. A wife who is a superior court judge, former supervising judge at one of the branch courts, two daughters, one in the law with an advanced degree, another daughter, was a rocket scientist with an engineering degree out of Georgia Tech and now a computer science degree out of Georgia Tech. These women can do anything, and again, it's not because they're my relations, it's because they take after their mother. I understand that, but the point is the opportunities are out there and we, as men, get the opportunity to brag on those in our family who are accomplishing so much because of the opportunities that this county, this nation has lately, way too late, but lately started to afford to women. The work is not over. And some of the great women leaders behind us in lots of fields, in government, in education, in technology, whatever field they happen to be in, they continue to blaze the path, they continue to say to all of the young women and girls out there like my five-year-old granddaughter, anything you want to do is open to you today. That is the legacy of the women behind us, that is the legacy of the shoulders of giants. They stand on and it is the legacy that they are going to leave so that their daughters can stand on their shoulders. Wonderful opportunity to celebrate National Women's History Month. Recognize some great leaders. My chief of staff is a woman. We have it. The county is the vice chair and mentioned a woman as our CEO. It no longer is remarkable that you have a woman in certain positions. What is remarkable is the fantastic job that they are doing that we celebrate today. Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and do the first round. Thank you. Sorry. 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We too start off please. Thank you Mr. Chair. Good morning again. Vesenthis Anamiento, Orange County Supervisor for the second district. Thank you, Chairman Chaffee for allowing us to present this March as developmental disabilities awareness month. This is extra special because this is the first time we're doing this and this month serves as a reminder to recognize the importance of individuals with developmental disabilities and the contributions of those who help them live independently. In California, a developmental disability is defined as an intellectual disability, cerebral palsy, epilepsy, autism, and other conditions closely related to intellectual disabilities. This year's theme, Creating Pathways to Independence, underscores the importance of providing the resources, support, and opportunities individuals with developmental disabilities need to thrive and live independently. To ensure individuals with developmental disabilities thrive, we must highlight the efforts of parents, caregivers, advocates, and organizations that provide essential services. Without their support, we would fail those impacted by disabilities. Over five decades ago, the state of California passed the landmark Lanterman Developmental Disability Services Act in 1969, creating a state funded privately operated regional center system to replace the costly and shameful system of remote institutions. In Orange County, the regional center of Orange County serves over 29,000 individuals with developmental disabilities providing those services. Non-profit organizations like the Office of Clients Rights Advocacy, part of the disability rights California play a critical role in advocating for Californians with intellectual and developmental disabilities ensuring their voices are heard. these these advancements, discrimination, and underfunding persists, California's with developmental disabilities are disproportionately affected by the high cost of housing, healthcare barriers, low employment rates, and poverty. Many face challenges in civic engagement due to inaccessible voting systems, inadequate transportation, and lack of accommodations in government processes. It is crucial for legislators to understand that individuals with developmental disabilities have the same legal rights as anyone else. We must listen to their voices when crafting public policy to find effective solutions. This resolution is deeply personal to me. As I've witnessed firsthand through my wife, Evacas, who I introduced during the earlier presentation, she had to leave or is she in the back? No, she's still here, okay, good. And also, somebody who's really special to me, which is my executive assistant and policy at Damiana, I'm Mandatis, and Damiana, please stand up. She helped prepare this presentation. She lives with autism spectrum disorder. Both the challenges and the invaluable perspectives she provided are critical to the work that I do. And she has a master's degree from UCI and public policy and she cares deeply about this issue. Not just because it impacts her personally, but she realizes how important it is to be a leader and an advocate for others who have challenges and have opportunities and resources that we need to support. So as we observe developmental disabilities awareness month of March, let us commit to continuing the work of creating pathways to independence and autonomy. For individuals with developmental disabilities, we must ensure that they have access to the resources support opportunities needed to lead needed to lead fulfilling independent lives, and together through advocacy policy change and active engagement, we can insist on a more inclusive and equitable society where every person, regardless of ability, is empowered to reach their full potential. So with that, before I invite Asusena, Asusena, Garcia Fetel, if you don't mind coming up because we're going to have you speak, I'm going to turn it over to my colleagues, but I just want to introduce you and talk about you a little bit before I turn it over in 1990. Asusena not only lost her father, said he'll to cancer, but she was also diagnosed with cerebral palsy, a developmental disability, and as a result, she has had 18 orthopedic surgeries in both her legs, living with the disability has made her aware of the challenges, barriers and struggles, but also the joy that people with disabilities, I heard, deal with daily. with daily. Susanna graduated with the BA in Communications and Political Science from the University of California San Diego, GoTranes. She has over 10 years of experience advocating for people with disabilities and workers rights and working in communications and public relations for organizations such as SCIU California, State Council, and the Center on Policy Initiatives in San Diego. And last night I got a chance to meet Asusena for the first time. She told me she was also accepted to the London School of Economics, which is the most prestigious school of economics in the world. She was not able to go because of economic reasons, but we know she certainly had the skills for that. She's also a very active member of the community and as a board member for various nonprofit organizations such as the California Policy Center for Intellectual and Developmental Disability, the Adaptive Sports and Recreation Association in San Diego and the American Academy of Surrival Palsy and Developmental Medicine and mentoring first-generation Hispanic Latino students pursuing their education. She has a long, long resume and I could go on, but I want to turn it over to anyone of my colleagues that would like to speak on this issue, but I just want to thank you all for allowing us to recognize this because this is the first time that the county is recognizing this month. It's especially important for us because, again, Damianna's story, my wife's story, us who sent us story, and so many others that live here in our county and our state and our country. We need to make sure that we do better in providing rights and protections for people living with disabilities. And hopefully this is one step in the right direction. Thank you, thank you Mr. Chair. Good morning again Katrina Foley representing District 5 and as you heard this is March and developmental disabilities awareness month. Through this month, the campaign is, we're here all year. And we're proud to share the stories of people with developmental disabilities. Developmental Disabilities Awareness Month was established in 1987 by then-present Ronald Reagan. Developmental Disabilities Awareness Month highlights the importance of fostering a society where people with disabilities are empowered to contribute to their communities. In District 5 we have two significant nonprofits, we have a lot, but two that I'm highlighting, that help Costa Mesa has project independence and they provide services to thousands with developmental disabilities in their homes, they help place them with jobs and work in the community. And the Shea Center of San Juan Capastrano, which is dedicated to improving the lives of people with disabilities, including autism through therapeutic course related programming. This month I'm happy to recognize our community members and I'm looking forward to hearing your story and your unique experiences and everyone make sure that you recognize people with disabilities as a main contributor to our community. 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That's what an opportunity like today gives us a chance to say to the community. And so thank you Supervisor Sarmiento for bringing this forward. Thank you to all of the groups that are out there that are helping our disabled come into our community. Thanks to everyone who is willing and able to accept those people in our community they have an enormous amount to offer and I appreciate Supervisor Sermiento for bringing this forward. I want to first thank Supervisor Sermiento for bringing this up and for Orange County for recognizing the importance and raising awareness about mental developmentally disabled disabilities and celebrating the contributions of individual with disabilities in our community. America has had many high-profile people with disabilities who have done great, great significant things in our country. President FDR had polio. Helen Keller was blind and death. Michael J. Fox continues to act decades after being diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, and now has become a huge champion and fighter for research and development for Parkinson's disease. As a Vietnamese American and a child of a community that has overcome tremendous adversary, I know how vital it is to ensure that every individual, including those with developmental disability, is seen and supported. Today, as we recognize the contribution of people with disability, we also must continue to commit to ensuring that these critical services reach all of our communities Including those who may not yet know and have found their voices in those serve systems again. Thank you supervisor Cermental Good morning everyone everyone. I didn't prepare any talking points, except for two. It's incredible to be here. I am the daughter of immigrants who came from Mexico full of dreams, full of things that they wanted to accomplish. This is an incredible honor because there's more than 4 million Californians in this state who have a disability. And I am here speaking, being one of those four million voices. Thank you. It's a huge honor. Be senti for allowing me to be here. As I was saying, I am the daughter of Mexican immigrants who came with a lot of dreams. Unfortunately, as life would have it, and as you know, life oftentimes unfolds in ways that we cannot predict. And many times we try to change it as if we can control it, but we really don't. In 1990, I was diagnosed with cerebral palsy the same year that the American with Disabilities Act was passed. In many ways, I recognized how lucky I was to be born when I was, because that meant that the civil law protections of the ADA were in place when I was born. However, as be senta mentioned, I lost my father in 1990 due to cancer. And so that left my mother who did not speak English at all, battling and trying to understand the healthcare system that was not very friendly to say the least. She was raising two kids, I was one of them. And so, I grew up in a very low income community in San Hicidro, to be exact. In the border between San Diego and Tijuana, I grew up on food stamps, and I say it very proudly. I grew up with all the social system helps in place that helped me thrive, that have maybe come who I am. I depended on SSI. I depended on respite care. I'm still a client of the regional center to this day. I've been a client for the regional center for the last 34 years. So I know what it means. I'm the embodiment of what it means to have social systems in place that supports you, that really help you thrive. because I needed, we, my family needed every single one of those to thrive to flourish. Unfortunately, as we can see in the news, this has changed dramatically. And I feel currently that every part of my identity, the fact that I am a woman, that I am the daughter of immigrants, that I am a woman of color, that I am a disabled woman, that I speak Spanish because Spanish was and is my first language. Every part of it is being attacked. But you know what? I am very proud to be a disabled woman. I am very proud to be and represent so many members of my community and the rich diversity that we bring to our society. We contribute so much. Unfortunately, the society is built on the idea that we should support those who walk and talk. Those who cannot talk, like many of those that have cerebral palsy, who depend on tablets. Those are often overlooked, unfortunately. But I am here for them. And I'm proud to know that this is the first time that the County Board of Supervisors of Orange County is acknowledging developmental disabilities month. And I hope this continues, as has been mentioned, beyond this month, because our disabilities do not stop. One day, or do not stop in a couple months, our disabilities continue. In my case, just to give you a little bit of an idea, there are many times that I cannot move, that the pain sticks to my flesh, and all I can do is cry myself to sleep, because I cannot move. And as I grow older, my mobility will get worse, and that is a very scary thought for women, for any individual, as a matter of fact. So I ask all of you in this room, but especially the supervisors who are behind me, and I wish I could be facing you, but due to the podium location, I can't. I ask you two things, and here are my talking points. One, we can create policies, but we cannot legislate the attitude toward disability and the perfect example is happening currently with the attacks to the 504 section of the Rehabilitation Act, with the possible massive cuts of Medicaid. That is a clear example. So let me repeat that, loud and clear. We can create policies, but we cannot legislate attitude toward disability. Policy is only as powerful as the people behind it, and to truly change anything, we must change the hearts and minds and believe that disabled lives are worthy of being lived. And in order for that to happen, you need not only to acknowledge the presence of people with disabilities, but we need to be here. We need to be in this table. We need to have a supervisor with a disability. We need to have our voices heard. That is the first. The second thing is... have our voices heard. That is the first. The second thing and final thing that I ask supervisors of each and every single one of you is to look at your hands. Look at your hands. In your hands you have the power to transform, to change, to better. The lives of the more than 25,000 constituents with disabilities that you have in Orange County living here. How is that happening? Because with your hands, you have the power to decide where certain budget goes and how certain funding is allocated. So please every time you sign and you decide what is to be funded, keep in mind all of your constituents who have disabilities, listen to them, invite them to the table because trust me we may not have the economic power because unfortunately many of us do not have employment. Only 22% of people in the nation with disabilities have employment. But I'll tell you what we do have. We have a huge heart and we have a lot of creativity because we oftentimes feel as if we are damaged goods, as if we're afterthought, we're constantly fighting with the barriers outside in our society, which is much worse than disability itself. So please, every time you sign for something to be funded, look at your hands and ask yourself, will this help my constituents with disabilities? And if you can, ask them to the table. And let me end with this last quote. What we do for ourselves dies with us, but what we do for others remains immortal. Thank you. you That concludes our presentations for this morning. 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I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. I'm going to do a little bit of the same thing. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this meeting the Orange County Board of Supervisors for today which is. the Lawrence County Board of Supervisors for today, which is March 25, 2025. You're going to be meeting with an indication to be offered by Vice Chair Foley. And today's pledge will be led by Supervisors Sarmorento. Would you all please stand. Good morning. Yesterday I had the opportunity to attend the celebration of life for Orange County Fire Authority Fire Apparatus Engineer Kevin Skinner. He passed away while on duty, fighting a residential house fire in Lagoon, NGL in January. He was 56 years old, planning to retire this year, and his three amazing children. The sail abrasion was very moving, and of course, as you sat there, you started thinking about all of the things that are important to you and what you need to do to make sure that the people that you love know that and know that you care for them. There was a prayer in the program that I'd like to read that speaks to sacrifice and dedication of first responders. It's called the good fight. I fought the good fight. I have finished my course. I have kept the faith. Henceforth, there is laid up for me, a crown of righteousness, which the Lord the righteous judge shall give me at that day and not to me only but unto all them also. That love is a period. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Chair Foley. If you'll all please place your right hand over your heart and remain standing if you're able and repeat after me. I pledge allegiance to the flag. Thank you. Thank you, supervisors Foley and Sarmianto. A couple of reminders for today's meeting. Please use the main entrance when entering a Any-and-room. All the doors are alarmed and are for emergency exit only. Please set all phones to mood or vibrate at this time. That was the duration of the meeting. The board will be breaking for lunch around the new hour, doing which time will recess to close session. Do need a parking validation for the P4 parking lot, which is a jation to our building. Please see the deputy clerk next to the podium and you will receive a parking validation card. Now proceed to the agenda for this morning. The agenda contains a brief description of each item to be considered. Except as otherwise provided by law, no action shall be taken on any item not appearing on today's agenda. The agenda is divided into sections. All matters on the consent counter are approved by one motion, let's say board member or member of the public request separate action on an item. Any member of the public may come asked the board to be heard as part of that process. I wish to address the board. Please complete a speaker request form which is located in the lobby outside the board room. Completed forms must be the pots and box next to the podium prior to the beginning of the item being called. For example, if you wish to speak on the consent calendar, be sure you have your speaker quest form in before we start that. And any other item, please be sure your speaker quest form is in the box before we call that item as part of our work of calendar. Speakers may address the board on up to three occasion with three minutes allowed to the speaker per occasion. We are called to speak. Please step into the podium. I'm going to ask you to request that you state your name in the city of residence for the record. Although you need not do so if you wish to remain anonymous. Please note the light on the podium. The green light means you have three minutes. The light changes to yellow when you have one minute. The light turns red when you have your time up. It asks that you reserve the time limits so that all who wish to speak will have an opportunity to do so. I'm addressing the board. Please address the board as a whole through the chair. At this time, members of the board as supervisors may comment on any agenda or not agenda item and may ask questions Overgift direction to staff provide a no action may be taken on off agenda items and a software by law Do any board members wish to speak Well, okay, two minutes each and I see none so I get ten is that how that works anyway So I just like to remind people that this Saturday we have a fishing derby at Clark Park. The registrations begin at 7 in the morning we provide the fishing rod and reel and the bait and the police join us a family event. It's intended to be for kids 16 and younger but adults the tournament is over, if you have a license, may join in the fishing fund. All right. At this point, I'd like to Madam Colleague CEO any changes to the agenda and the request received from the public to pull an item from the consent calendar for a subconceration. Madam Clerk. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The closed session item one has been deleted and the public has not requested to pull any items from the consent calendar. We did receive a continuation this morning have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item. We have a second item that item up to that spot. All right. So thank you. Now we'll move to our agenda items. But first let me ask, are there any member of my colleagues that want to poll an item in consent counter? Seeing none. I'm sorry. Item three and six. Item three. Item six. Three and six. All right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. for some consideration. All right. Have a motion and a second for the approval of the balance. An objection. The balance is approved. Let's move on to item three, Supervisor Foley. Vice Chair, I'm sorry. Thank you. Item three is our OC Public Works Resolution for the Orange County Traffic Committee report for January of 2025. And I just to point this out because this is an issue that has been, we've been getting a lot of calls from our constituents related to traffic safety in La Dera and Rancho, Mission Viejo. And so the signage that is currently not there will now be a 30 mile an hour sign that will be added under state law the sign or the limitation is 55 unless you have studies that show what the average could be and 30 miles an hour is much safer for pedestrians bicyclists and others so the traffic committee is recommending that we reduce the speed to 30 miles an hour and I would move the item. Second. Any objection? Motion carries item three is approved. Item four, supervise us, Saranto. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'm simply going to move the item with a brief comment. This is a routine report, but it's important for us to check in and see where we are on status of housing. I know that we're well behind our target, but we're working on it as effectively as we can. But we do, I do want to call attention that we have only built 3.23% of our targeted low income units, 40, 80% average median income resident. Only 69 low income units so far in the rena cycle. We're doing better on the moderate side, but we do need to be much more aggressive on the load of very low. It shows the importance of different ways that we can increase housing production. I want to thank the staff for including the small scale housing as being part of that plan. Many of you know those as tiny homes. It's a much faster way to develop housing. It's inexpensive and much easier to stand up. So I want to thank them for including that. I know our office has been working closely with our real estate department as well to talk about opportunities. I know there's one at the HCA site on 17th Street across from the San Ana College area. And we're also looking at Fruit Street and obviously the Civic Center master plan. But we do need to look at this because it is a missing piece of the housing development spectrum of housing that we need to make sure we provide for not just emergency shelter space and from there to permanent supportive housing there is a big gap sometimes it's 18 months sometimes longer and much more expensive. So if we can fill that void or that missing middle with some small scale housing that's something that we are very eager to look at. So thank you and with that Mr. Chair, I'll move the item. Yes, please go ahead. Thank you. I had a question. We learned that our emergency housing vouchers will be defunded. And so how I wonder if Miss Bidwell is present? Or whomever is the staff member that could answer this question for this item. Good morning, Julie Bidwell, Director OC Housing Community Development. Good morning. Thank you. So as we know, we had the notice that our emergency vouchers, which is a total of $12 million of funding that we expected through 2030 or 2035, I can't remember, a longer time than the next few months. Have been defunded and we will lose those vouchers beginning in September of 2025. Has that been contemplated as part of this update and this report? No, I don't believe so. We worked with public works on the update to this. This was filed before the March 6th notice that we received from HUD. It's not a physical built location, the emergency housing voucher represents a rental assistance. So obviously those residents live throughout the county, not just in the unincorporated areas. Okay. And so would that be in a different report then? Yes. Okay. Yeah. And then, you know, I sent an email about this. I was surprised. And I guess it's because we don't get credit for any of the projects that we are helping to fund that are low income and extremely low income. And because it shows zero units built in any of our districts this last year, however, we've all been to ribbon cuttings for a county funded development significantly funded by the county. So what can we do to work with our city partners so that we can start to be able to get credit for some of those housing units that we're actually funding? I mean, it's almost exclusively in some cases coming from the county. And what can we do to get credit? I understand if they're trying to meet their arena numbers that they'll be reluctant to want to give up some of those units, but for some cities they've already met all the arena numbers. So how do we how do we then get the overflow at the very least? Right, and thank you for the question. So your your board approves Arena policy as part of our funding package, which is the notice of funding availability. For funding that is regional, mental health services act funding to build housing is not just for only the unincorporated areas. So we work with cities, right? To place that housing in their cities. We have an optional request. You can only transfer rena credits. You cannot get instantaneous credit. You can negotiate agreement to transfer credits in the next cycle. So we do approach every city on every project and ask, would you be willing to transfer credits? Now it's optional for those funding sources that are regional in nature, like the Mental Health Services Act funding that is there to build housing throughout the county to meet the needs of that population. And we have several other funding sources that are like that. So the policy and so we work with the city. So we would be on the city to then voluntarily enter into to the agreement. We've had some of that in places where we own the property or it's a localized funding, like we had ARPA funding that's turned into a localized funding, we require that the city participate in arena transfer if we're using those funds. But for the most part, anything that is the project- Voucher Program, we administer on behalf of 30 cities. It's as much their voucher as it is the unincorporated areas to use those to develop that housing. So we have that policy that sort of re-quit, we make the request to the cities, we ask them. And that's what's written in law, as far as being able to do a transfer. So that's the policy that we currently have. Okay. I think what I'd like to ask is that we analyze whether that's the law or that's a practice and that we come back with a change of the language to be a requirement if the law allows. Because we should be getting credit for some of this housing that we're building. And when we're building it all over the county, San Juan Capastrano, Costa Mesa, Santa Ana, Yorvalinda, I mean, we're building housing, but we're not getting any credit for it in terms of the meeting of our housing needs analysis. So I'd love to better understand whether that's the law or whether that is just a policy that we have and we've never changed. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Suva is a sorry, Otto. Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to mention on top of that and while you're here, Julia, thank you for all the hard work. But as we know what happens is if we're looking at cities that have already met their goals or are very close to meeting their goals and they're willing to transfer some of those credits to us because they're close to addressing their, you know, their numbers. That just means we concentrate a lot of our developments there. And as we know, we need these units all over the county. So to the extent that it's almost, you know, something that's counterintuitive where we don't want to concentrate these, but we want to make sure that they're, you know, county-wide. So that is something that, you know, to the extent that we can try to fix. It's difficult, we know. Siting is always a problem. It's always the challenge that we, you know, mention up here. funding is not the only challenge, but it's finding the partner cities to be able to do that. So to the extent we can continue to work on those, but yeah, for those cities that have methodicals, it's easier for them, but we don't want to just focus in on those locations. Thank you. All right, they have it, has been moved in seconded objection. The item is approved. Let's move on to item six supervisor. I'm sorry, vice chair Foley. Thank you. I just wanted to have it a move this item, but this is a project to develop the sea basin at Rancho Mission VAO that's been in the making for 10 years at least. The sea basin will serve as a supplement to the county's existing water and flood infrastructure in the unincorporated south orange county. Under this implementation agreement, the developer's Rancho Mission V Ajo phase three development LLC and DMV San Juan Investment North LLC will be responsible for the construction and maintenance of the basin and will create a million dollar trust fund to cover the long term operations and maintenance once it becomes part of the county's infrastructure. They will also transfer a parcel approximately 0.6 acres to the county for public work storage at no cost. I'm, you know, last year we got everybody in the room and we were able to hear each side's different perspectives on this and find some creative solutions and in this great partnership that we have with the ranch we were able to make this happen. So I'm grateful to the work of our public works team, our county council and our CEO for helping to get this done after 10 years in the making. So thank you with that and move the item. Second, there wasn't one. Okay, any moved in second, any objection? Motion carries. Now we're going to move to item 35, which is a review of unjust transfers and holds that we call the Tooth Act. No actions actually required a simply report to allow public comment. Madam Clerk, please read the item. Under Kenny Council, I'll proceed to government code section 7283.1., conduct public hearing regarding transparent review of unjust transfers and holds the truth act and receive a file information from county law enforcement departments regarding immigration and customs enforcement's access to individuals in 2024. Thank you for that. I am now opening the public hearing. Madam Clerk, do we have any members of public who wish to speak? Yes, we do. We receive 17 requests. Please call the first speakers. I will call three speakers at a time. Please line up in the center of the room behind the podium. When your name is called, Sarai Arpego, Anachatco and Roberto. Welcome. Good morning. My name is Rayar Pero, and I have been a promoter with Latino Health Access for over 20 years. So, they are here to share with you the impact that the new administration has had on our communities. Over these years, more than ever, it is crucial to protect our immigrant communities in Orange County. Let's all remember that it is a nation formed by migrants. The consequences that this administration is creating are very severe and violent. Children are afraid to go to school or return home and find their parents go. Furthermore, the local economy, which was already hit by the effect of the pandemic, now faces another obstacle, and the immigrant's stances. Many families no longer want to go out to shop or consume as they use it used to, which have further affecting the economy. This is not the first time we have faced discriminatory policies, but it is time it is different. As it seems that the new administration has a given a license to violent discriminate and criminalize our families in Orange County. Family that works hard, pay taxes and contribute significantly to the local economy. We must unite it to ensure that our residents, regardless of their immigration status, feel safe and supported in their own communities. In value to support the protection of immigrant families and to promote community-based on inclusion, safety and justice. We have you as a phrase in good with trust and in good with trust that you will do the right thing for our communities. Thank you. May I have the next speaker please? Good morning, dear honorable supervisors. My name is Anna Chateco and I am here on behalf of the Latino Health Access to express our deep concern over the growing fear and uncertainty among immigrant communities in Orange County. As an organization that serves nearly 13,000 individuals, where 86% of our community members are foreign-born, we have witnessed first-hand a devastating impact of anti-immigrant rhetoric and policies. families in our community live in constant fear of separation due to escalated immigration enforcement and many hesitate to access critical public benefits that have concern for potential repercussions such as public charge rules. The climate of fear not only threatens individuals well-being but also erodes the trust and sense of belonging that every resident deserves especially here in Orange County. We're particularly alarmed by the 1,200% increase in ICE transfer by the Orange County shares or requirements from 2020-22-2023, a staggering and unacceptable rise that is feeling fear, disdivalacing families and undermining trust in local law enforcement. These transfer to perpetrate family separation, economic hardship and signal for the narratives that harm the very fabric of our community. We strongly urge you to take stand against this practice and put an end to ice transfer in our county. It is a time to prioritize community trust over fear, justice over discrimination, and human dignity over political rhetoric. We must come together to ensure that all residents, regardless of immigration status, feel safe and supported in their very own communities. We calling you to take an action to now, stand with us in protecting immigrant families and fostering a community rooted in exclusion, safety and justice, which is the Orange County model for us to follow those three things. Thank you and have a great day. Thank you. Next speaker please. After Roberto, the next three speakers are Courtney, David Durran and Sandra. Good morning, Chair, Vice Chair and Board. I'm here representing Resilience Orange County and the Orange County Rapid Response Network. For the past three years, our organization has been base building and organizing in the city of Costa Mesa, supporting the Latino community. Since 2018, I have attended these Truth Act forums, and today I call on you to lean in and listen to the pleas of the immigrant community here in Orange County. I've conducted no-your-rights trainings in the Meso-domar neighborhood at Harbor Church at the crossing in West Minister in Lake Forest, Anaheim, and San Juan. The fear is poppable. The anxiety is piercing and hope is dimming. I ask you to be a light in times of darkness. I ask you to have reason and unreasonable times. Please listen to the community and be the hope that is needed of you now. And I'll transfer. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi, my name is Courtney Cook. I'm a resident of Garden Grove. I've lived in Orange County since I turned 18 and I went to OCC and graduated from UCLA after that. I think that we all want to keep our community safe. That's our number one goal for everybody here. I think at least. We need to remember that everybody is part of our community, including all the immigrants and people who have been convicted of crimes and it's our responsibility to protect those people as well. So we want our community members to leave the tension trusting our trusting our sheriff, trusting our law enforcement officers more, not less. So please keep that in mind. Thank you. Thank you. I'd like to bring some information from my partner who wasn't able to attend. she's just unable to. The or county board of supervisors should not trust Don Barnes. Our communities deserve so much more. You as elected officials have failed immigrant communities in Orange County. She and I share that idea. That being said, I have to share also that for the first time in eight years at least, I was extremely happy to see this board recognize the women and the disabled in the county. Thank you. That being said, I think there are some gaping holes that still are targeting people of color, people of color, people that are here to make a better life for themselves, just as maybe my ancestors or your ancestors were. It almost seems like because of the silence that we hear in this county and maybe from this board that being quiet about the criminalization and inhumidity that is supported by the Orange County Sheriff's in their support of ICE, goes unspoken. If we don't say anything about it, maybe people won't notice. If we don't say things about the racist targeting, if we don't say things about the breaking up of families, about the devastation that is caused to individuals and the jailings and things of that sort, then maybe people won't notice. I would like to be at least one voice to recognize and to let you know that people do notice how this county acts and how they support their law enforcement. Simple things like having the truth act during a time where really a majority of the community can't be here. Ventura and San Diego do the truth act in the evenings so that people can attend after work This county doesn't Just in the game as an example Do better, please Maybe have the next speaker please after Sandra the next three speakers are Casey Be a Nea and Felicity Felicity Felicity figure row Good morning, boardors. My name is Sandra. I'm the Network Coordinator at the Orange County Rapper Response Network. We rapidly respond to communities being targeted by ice in their neighborhoods, but we also fight alongside hundreds of families. Many, all of them actually constituents of all of your districts. Even in the wealthier parts of Orange County, there's a lot of on clubs of working class communities that are invisible to you all. But they do call our hotline and they let us know that they are targeted by ice, but also right, they're racially profiled by the police that are then taken to Sheriff's custody and then that sheriff transfers them over to ice detention. I've been organizing along families in detention centers from Orange County and I wanna let you know those detention centers are awful. You guys have been reading a lot of headlines about the inhumane treatment of our community members in there. One thing I can share, right, is at the height of the pandemic, many of our residents were sprayed with something called HDQ neutral. This chemical unfortunately led to neurological damage, loss of eyesight, but very similar to the lack of transparency here in the jails done by the sheriff, there's lack of transparency at those detention centers. Right now we're getting calls that people are packed like sardines at the Adelanto and the Desert View Annix. So that is where our sheriff is filtering our immigrant communities. And I want to let you know something. I know that Trump is using the guise of criminality to deport a lot of our community members. Right now, the data that ICE has shared is that 50% of the people that are being detained or deported are people that don't even have criminal records. You guys may have heard about the couple that got deported from Laguna Nigel. They simply just exhausted their avenues of relief. So this whole criminalization narrative needs to stop. This policy has been way overdue. And I need to ask you, do you guys really want to be on the side of separating families? Do you guys really want to be on the side of Trump? That is what your legacies will tell of you during this moment. So I I demand that you all and this draconian policy now let our immigrant and refugee communities live peacefully please be part of that change and we will continue to protect our community because we know that many of you will not thank you. May we have the next speaker please. Good morning board. My name is Casey. I'm a community member and also a member of the Orange County Rapid Response Network. I know some of you already, so it's good to see you all. So I thought about what I wanted to say today and I knew a lot of folks would have things to say. So I wrote something in anticipation of hoping to augment what it is the community is bringing and hopefully add something to that. So I have here. A lot of folks are here to talk about how current immigration policy and law affects them. They are here to educate, to invoke your empathy, and to seek your leadership in the community. My family, too, is impacted, and they aren't the perfect victims. I don't want to play into a perfect victim narrative because it leaves people behind. But it matters to me what happens to them and that matters. Criminalization as an idea, as a political tool, is how the powers that be kill our capacity for empathy. For certain individuals, for certain group, for politicized group, then the narrative that this causes functionally creates underclasses, that society and institutions are ready to turn a blind eye to. Oh, they're a criminal. It doesn't matter what happens to them or they're a criminal. They're not my priority. I asked the board to challenge this norm when reflecting on the other statements and stories read today and notice when our capacity for empathy has been manipulated by criminalization narratives, even stifled. And to take a breath and remember the humanity of folks affected by the immigration and criminal system, whether they have families to be separated from or whether they're alone. There's still members of our community, whether they have criminal records, whether they've already served their time and paid their debt, or not. Whether they are assimilated, Americanized, or not, whether they fit an ideal immigrant narrative, or not. We demand the end of all ICE transfers. We know this is possible via the sheriff's discretion as in the case of Los Angeles County. We demand the oversight of the sheriff due to recorded violations of SB 54. We demand that the truth form be accessible in time, location, and format to impact the communities and working class families. We demand that ICE transfer data be available one month before this forum on an accessible database. We demand that the county address the lack of resources for post-detainees, as in reentry services as a line item in the county budget to prevent folks from being trapped in cremigration cycles facing double jeopardy and deportation. This would need to include more Padilla attorneys at the public defenders. Thank you. May we have the next speaker, please? Good morning. My name's Felicity, and I'm a 30 year resident of Orange County. I'm also the immediate past president of the Newport Mesa Irvine Interfaith Council, although today I'm speaking as a private citizen. I am extremely disappointed that with all the information we now have regarding how ICE transfers actually make our community less safe. Here in the OC, they are still happening at a rapid pace. There are multiple counties in California that don't allow any ICE transfers from county jails to detention facilities with absolutely no negative consequences. These counties realize the transferring people to ICE after they have finished their sentences, been rehabilitated, deemed ready to go back to society by the parole board, or even the governor, is both pointless and counterproductive. What good is accomplished by separating families, by depriving a household of its principal breadwinner, or by leaving American-born children without either of their parents to care for them. When people see police and sheriff deputies acting like ice officers, they lose their trust in local law enforcement, and don't report it when they are victims of a crime, or even when they are witnessed to one, for fear of putting themselves or their loved ones in jeopardy. How does that make us safer? Not to mention the economic toll on our communities when our local and state tax dollars are being used to do the work of federal agents instead of providing much needed resources for our own members as we have heard today. No one should be subjected to double punishment after they have served their time and are ready to become contributing members of their communities. The fact that this is only happening to people who were born somewhere other than the United States, regardless they have lived here their entire lives, contributes to the demonization and profiling of immigrants as untrustworthy, dangerous, and more likely to engage in criminal activity. In fact, it has been shown in study after study that immigrants commit fewer crimes than native born citizens. In years past, the sheriff has tried to make us believe that when people with detainers are not handed over to ICE but released back into society that many of them are later re-arrested for new crimes. Notice the sheriff uses the term re-arrested. He doesn't say convicted or even charged. The sheriff can arrest whomever he wants, but last time I checked, and that was just a few minutes ago, we still live in a country where people are innocent until proven guilty. We are a nation that believes that people shouldn't be judged by the worst thing that they have ever done in their lives, that believes in second chances, the believes in redemption and the ability to make amends. Let's remember that when we are making public policy for our county. ICE transfers are not mandated by law, they are optional. Sheriff Don Barnes has his discretion to end all ICE transfers and truly make our community safer. He should do that immediately. Thank you. The next three speakers are Sean Drexler, Carlos Bedea, and Rebecca Covaxstein. Good morning board of supervisors. My name is Sean Drexler. I'm a resident of Costa Mesa and a member of the Orange County Rapid Response Network. I just wanted to share, speak on some of the things that we've been seeing in our communities since the election. It's been it's been devastating as others have spoken to, people are terrified. People are not going to work. Children are not going to school. People are not shopping for groceries. And this has such a ripple effect, right? It affects the local economies. It affects the family's financial situations. And it also, as others have said, like it creates distrust, right? Like we don't want immigrant communities to be afraid of law enforcement. We know that hate crimes are a real thing and we want people to be able to report those, right? To feel comfortable and safe reporting those. And we're seeing that that's not happening now because they don't know what's gonna happen if they talk to police officers. And ICE transfers, you know, they reinforce these racist myths that criminalize immigrants and refugees. So I'm wondering like, who is this for? Who's this helping? I know it's not making my life any better to transfer people from local jails to ICE. So who's this benefiting? Why are we spending our time and resources on this? Since when it could be going into schools, community programs, affordable housing, parks, roads, there's so many things, there's so many things we can be doing that benefit the majority of people in this county. ICE transfers are not one of them. And as has been said, they're entirely electable. This is not something that the sheriff is required to do is to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we have to make sure that we line. next speaker please. Carlos Padea, Rebecca Kovex Stein. Good morning Orange County Board of Supervisors. My name is Bianca Andress and I am a resident of Fullerton, California. I'm also a member of the Orange County Rapid Response Network. I open with a quote, the phrases is free and friend or linked. It's root means to be free and half ties. A shared power that grows selfless means I'm only free when everyone else is. Every day since the change in national administration and before, families are torn, individuals and parents face prolonged deportation away from their loved ones. For many, this is the only home they know. Mothers are forced away from children in cells. The very women we celebrate this month locked away under horrible conditions. Where is their acknowledgement? We are not a free nation. We are not a free county. Under the last Trump administration, our sheriff has worked to the greatest extent of the law to deport as many community members as possible. And from 2019 to 2022, our Sheriff's Department has had the highest rate of ICE transfers in California. We've transferred people with convictions 15 years ago after they have been rehabilitated. We demand the end of all choice ice transfers. We demand accountability for our Sheriff's Department, who has torn so many- So after they have been rehabilitated, we demand the end of all choice ice transfers. We demand accountability for our Sheriff's Department who has torn so many families apart. Show us that the celebrations and recognitions of injustice this morning were not performative. This is our community. These are the people we pass on the street. These are our grocers. These are our cashiers. These are the people who work days and nights to provide for their family. This is our community. Show us that you care. Thank you. Good morning, I'm Rebecca Kovacstein, resident of Orange County. These are dangerous times. I'd like to speak today on the work that I'm moving into, which is helping to keep mixed families, status families together. I wanna be Boulder, Braver, and I wanna take a little more risks. Some may know me as an Orange County homeless advocate, work that I've performed for a little over seven years. So I'm moving into the Orange County Migration Coalition lane. What I won't do to help families stay together. I want to keep spouses together, parents together, step parents together, siblings together, step siblings, half siblings, aunts and uncles and nieces and nephews, cousins, grandparents, great aunties, uncles, grand nephews, grand cousins together. I'd like to ask the Board of Supervisors to consider shaping policy that it could be transformative. And the type of work that many of our speakers here are talking about today, I don't know what the next 90 days are going to look like with the Department of Homeland Security moving, having billions of dollars moved into their coffers. I don't know what that's going to look like. I don't know what that's going to look like on the streets of Orange County. But anyways, I'm here to plead with you today. Let's work together. You've got some amazing people here today on both sides. And I'm sure that we can come up with some sort of solution. Thank you. Good morning, good morning members of the board of supervisors. I'll be using the Okay. Thank you. It's working. Okay, thank you. My name is Carlos Perea, the Executive Director of the Harbor Institute for Immigrant and Economic Justice. Our organization has been monitoring ICE transfers from the Orange County Sheriff's Department and the compliance with states California the State's California Value Act SB 54. Last year there was a slight increase in Orange County resident transfers from county jail to immigration and customs enforcement, continuing a reversal in the trend from the pandemic years when there's actually less transfers and there was a decrease in that type of enforcement. As you can see, once again, Mexican Vietnamese, Central American communities have been the most impacted by ICE transfers in 2024. Mexican communities were 39% of them were transfer by the Sheriff's Department and Vietnamese communities but Vietnamese residents accounted for 32% of those transferred to ICE. An alarming issue that we have identified from last year is that 90% or nearly more than 90% of Vietnamese refugees that were placed on an IEDC container or were screened for their immigration documentation were transferred to IEDS. That means that over 90% of Vietnamese refugees were excluded from protections by the state's sanctuary law. Once again, the top cities that have been impacted by immigration enforcement, the Transert from the Sheriff's Department, two eyes having the cities of Westminster, Garden Grove and Santa Ana. Now sound research has proven every time that immigration enforcement or the collaboration between local law enforcement and ICE does not make cities safer. In fact, the opposite. It undermines public safety and also impacts our local economy. Organization published a report today which estimates that the cost of lost labor income for immigrant residents of Orange County transfers to ICE custody by the Orange County Sheriff's Department in 2024 was over $2 million. Orange County therefore lost an active, lost at over $3 million in economic activity due to continued collaboration between County Sheriff's Office and and federal immigration office. Lastly, there's about 16,000 cases in immigration court in Orange County. If all those folks were reported, we will lose over $162 million in wages. Please, a standard of death transfers. Thank you. The next three speakers are Devon, Tan,i Jakom, and Tanya Navarro. Hello, my name is Devon Tan. I am a student with the immigrant rights clinic at the UC Irvine School of Law. The intent of the Truth Act and the Truth Act forum is to provide transparency on how county officials, including the Orange County Sheriff Department, works with ICE to retain targeted community members. As many people have already stated, this can result in basically a second punishment for the community member after they already fully served their criminal sentence. The spirit of the Truth Act is to provide transparency. And to promote the Truth Act spirit of transparency, the Board of Supervisors needs to host the Truth Act Forum at a time convenient for community members to attend and advertise the forum well to make sure that community members can actually attend and know that this is an event that is going on. Furthermore, for there to be true transparency, the sheriff needs to provide complete information about ICE access. Part of the requirement under state law when hosting the Truth Act Forum is at the county shares with the public information about ICE interview requests for those in sheriff custody including how many interviews were requested How many were consented to and how many were not consented to? The sheriff has only provided this information in 2019 and in the past five years this this information has not been provided. The attachments to this agenda item do not contain any information about ICE interview requests. The reason for the ICE interview procedures is to protect due process for targeted community members. For the Board of Supervisors to be able to exercise any meaningful oversight in this area, it and the public must have complete information. Thank you. Good morning, Board of Supervisors. My name is Fabi Hakome, I'm the Executive Director of the Orange County Justice Fund. Our office is located in District 2. I'm a 20-year or I was a 20-year resident and so from Silverado Canyon and my current resident of the City of Yorba Linda. I'm here today to demand an N12 ICE transfers in Orange County. Sheriff Don Barnes has a discussion to stop these transfers, Yet OCSD continues to refer hundreds of community members to ICE, disproportionately impacting our Mexican and Vietnamese neighbors. Last year alone, 186 people were transferred to ICE out of the 226 that were referred by our Sheriff's Department, tearing families apart and spreading fear in our communities. For years, these truth act forums have been inaccessible, held on a weekday morning, limiting public engagement and treated as a mere procedural step. Meanwhile, OCSD dedicates dozens of officers to ICE transfers, while there are less than a handful of immigration specialists in the public defender's office to help community members navigate immigration consequences. If this board cares about OCs, immigrant and refugee communities, it must hold OCSD accountable and invest in protecting our neighbors, not enabling ISIS deportation machines. ICE transfers increased attention and deportation costs, draining public resources that could be invested in housing, healthcare and education. As an immigration bond fund that works to help our community come out of detention, we get to see this firsthand with bonds being as high as $20,000 that our community members sometimes almost at the time cannot afford. We demand oversight of the sheriff in light of a history of SB 54 violations in Orange County. Local law enforcement collaboration with ICE creates distrust and fear. It discourages people from seeking healthcare, social services, and public safety support. We have the power to end this harm orange Cowan Lee families deserve protection Not betrayal. Please end all eyes transfers now. Thank you After Tonya Navarro the last two speakers are Kristen V. In Alejandro Martinez Hello. My name is Tanya Navarro and I'm a strong supporter of the OC Rapper Response Network and a community organizer at Chispa and a San Ana resident. I'm here to demand an end to ICE transfers and a fully transparent and accessible truth act forum. The people impacted by ICE transfers are not only numbers, there are neighbors, our parents, our siblings, and our loved ones. A close family friend of mine checks OC Rapid Response Instagram page every day before leaving their house. And every time they decide if they're going to go to work or not, every time they decide if they're going to go to the grocery store or not, every time they decide if they're going to visit a friend or not, they feel the need to check O.C. Rapid Response page for their, because they're constantly posting and letting the community know what's happening and who's in their community, including ICE. Immigrants for decades have been used as scapegoats and exploited, dehumanized, and criminalized and minimized to their labor. My community is not safer without immigrants. It's just empty. Who is considered a criminal in this current political climate? And if they are considered a criminal at one point, at one point, will you all say it's okay for them to lose their humanity? In 2024, alone, the OCE Sheriff's Department referred to 126 people to ICE and transferred 186 individuals for a deportation. Many of these individuals had already served their time and deserve to return to their families, not being exiled from the only home they know. The values act was meant to protect community members from unjust transfers. Yeah, the OCE Sheriff Department continues to push the limits of the law to work with ICE. This is not about public safety. It's about targeting immigrants, particularly Black, brown, and Vietnamese immigrants. The Board of Supervisors has the power to stop these transfers and ensure true community safety safety instead of ensuring the status quo of continued human rights abuses. For years, the OC Sheriff's Department has manipulated and withheld data obstructing the true public oversight. The OCSD has failed to disclose critical details, including how many ICE interviews requests were made and how many individuals were accepted or denied them? This department also refuses to release demographic information and details that are essential for evaluating patterns of racial profiling and ICE transfers. Without this data, how can we trust OCE Sheriff's Department's claims? The Board of Supervisors must demand full transparency from the OCE Sheriff's Department and ensure public accountability. No more hidden numbers, no more unanswered questions, our communities deserve the truth, no more transfers. May we have the next speaker please. Good morning chair members of the board Janet Donne. My name is Kristen Nicole Valle. I'm a resident of the City of Newport Beach and the president of the Orange County Young Republicans. I'm here because public safety should be our top priority. I believe that we should remove all criminal offenders from our communities and that the Sheriff's Department and law enforcement should have every tool available to them to protect innocent people. We've seen the tragic consequences of failing to remove criminal offenders. Earlier this year, Congress overwhelmingly passed the Lake and Riley Act, named after a young woman murdered by somebody who should never have been in this country. If Congress can act on this issue with bipartisan support, then so can stay in local leaders. The victims of these crimes and our communities deserve better. Thank you. Good morning, board. My name is Alejandro Martinez. I am a resident of Orange County. I reside in the City of Tesson. And as a member of the Hispanic community, my family and I are greatly concerned. To see criminals be set free, we support the removal of criminal offenders from our community. It is important that the sheriff continue to provide notification to ICE regarding the pending release of those in this country illegally. The victims of those crimes simply deserve better. California needs to repeal the sanctuary law and allow all law enforcement to work together to keep this county safe. Thank you. No further speakers, Mrs. Chair. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Thank you, Madam Clerk. With that, I would invite the sheriff if you so much for the opportunity to be here once again to present some data on what we do with ice. I know there are many comments that I'm not going to go through all of them, but a lot of misinformation put out by the groups. I obviously have self-interest in what they present. The ASR Company Decidem provides the public with specific information, OCSD's interaction with ICE. Today I want to highlight three important things. First, what we do not do. Second, our custody operations efforts with data. and third the importance of continuing cooperation in a custodial setting. First OCSD does not engage in immigration enforcement. My devotees are focused on criminal violations of the state and local law. We never ask the immigration status of suspects, witnesses, or those who report crime. We have not and will not participate in any local operations of enforcement actions by federal authorities enforcing immigration law. I have made clear to our federal partners that my policy and immigration enforcement will not change. As I have stated repeatedly securing the border enforcing immigration laws are important responsibilities of the federal government, not local law enforcement. That said, is important to note that my department will in no way impede federal law enforcement officials from carrying out their official responsibilities. We will render aid in the event of an imminent officer safety issue or evolving risk to the public safety. California law specifically allows the sheriff the discretion to notify transfer certain serious offenders to the custody of ICE in a custodial setting, not in a field environment. Show this graphic and I'll explain what this graphic means. In calendar year, 2024, total of 733 screenings were conducted for inmates in our custody who had ICE detainers. Meaning ICE had requested OCSD to notify ICE when these inmates were being released from Orange County jail. I want to stress, contrary to what was said previously, we do not refer people to ICE. What this means is 733 people of the 48,000 bookings we had in 2024 roughly. 733 screenings were conducted for people who ICE said they have an interest in. Of those 733, the 456 screenings were straight state law prohibited OCSD from notifying ICE upon the inmates completion of the time in OCSD custody, which resulted in their release back into the community. There were 277 screenings where the strict thresholds of SB 54 were met, allowing OCSD to notify ICE when they were released. Of these 277, 228 were released to ICE custody, and 49 were not picked up by ICE, meaning that these 49 individuals were released from jail back into the community. The 730 individual screenings correspond to 633 inmates due to the fact that some inmates were re-arrested and issued in new detainer. Of the 633 inmates that were screened multiple times, 407 did not meet the thresholds of SB 54, and were released back into the community. Of these individuals, 226 met the SB 54 thresholds did not meet the thresholds of SB 54 and were released back into the community. Of these individuals, 226 met the SB 54 thresholds and were released to ice custody. 40 were not picked up by ice, and released back in the community, while 186 were transferred in a custodial setting to ice custody. It is important to note that these taken into custody by ice still go through a process that may or may not result in deportation. That is something they do, not something I do. We know that there are some who ICE have picked up that are then released and do reoffend. Of the 104-7 individuals that were not eligible to be picked up by ICE, 50 were re-arrested one or more times for new crimes in Orange County. Of the 40 ICE did not pick up, six were re-arrested for new crimes, and of the 186 ICE picked up, 22 were re-arrested for new criminal violations. And those are only those who we know were booked back into my jail. Not those that might have been arrested for other crimes that were previously misdemeanors under Prop 47, or those that might have been booked into local municipal jails, or to another county's jail. Here are a few examples of the people who had detainers were released due to California law and re-arrester for new crimes. A man from Mexico, where as arrested in San Juan Capestrana for possession methamphetamine presenting a false idea to police on August 27th. He was re-arrested again in San Juan Capestrana on October 28th for assault with a deadly weapon. These are just in calendar year 2024 by the way. The Vietnamese man was arrested by the Anine Police Department for identity theft on June 28th, less than two weeks later on July 9th, he was arrested by Westminster Police Department, Reforgery, Falson Personation, and Identity Thaft. Another man from Mexico was arrested on February 20th by the Sheriff's Department for Vandalism and Orson. He was arrested against six months later, again for Orson, and Vandalism by the Guard and Grove Police Department. An individual from Mexico was arrested by the Presidentialacential Police Department or March 6 for Child Endangerment. He was arrested again on July 14th by the Haber Police Department for Child Endangerment and DUI. He was arrested again by the Placential Police Department on September 18th for Child Endangerment and possession of drug paraphernalia. Man from El Salvador was arrested by the Testin Police Department for a luffle sexual penetration, that means sexual molestation of a child. On April 29th, and re-arrested again on Testin and Testin on October 7th for burglary. A man from Belarus was arrested for robbery and testin on July 2nd was re-arrested by the Orange County Sheriff's Department on October 24th for DUI. A man from Columbia was arrested for robbery on February 16th by the Coast of Mesa Police Department. After bonding out, he fell to appear and was re-arrested again on April 17th. One individual from Mexico was booked three times any year by my department. On May 25th, result with a deadly weapon, a possession of methamphetamine, September 9th for resisting arrest and again on November 30th for assault with the deadly weapon, a possession of methamphetamine, as September 9th for resisting arrest, and again on November 30th, for assault with the deadly weapon, a possession of methamphetamine. The Irvine Police Department arrested a man from Guatemala in August 18th for receiving stolen property and possessing methamphetamine. He was arrested October 2nd for committing those same violations again along with child endangerment. These are just nine of the 50 people who had multiple arrests that were released back in the custody, not the 277 that were eligible to be transferred over to ICE. And these numbers and examples only capture activity that occurred within calendar year 2024. These re-arrested numbers do not account for arrests that happened in previous years. Some who had detainers and were screened were also arrested for offenses committed prior to 2024. In fact, between 2022 and 2024, there were total of 214 offenders who had detainers who account for 368 additional arrests. And that's also additional victims. These crimes include a Vietnamese man who was arrested four times in less than two years for drug sale charges on January 11, 2023 by the Garnebro Police Department on March 20, 2023 by the Westminster Police Department for Drug Sales and Drug Transportation. On August 30, 2023 by the Westminster Police Department for Drug Sales again and finally on June 24, 2024 by the Westminster Police Department for False Impersonation. On December 12, 2023, Garne Grove Police Department arrest of Vietnamese man for assault with the great bodily injury and possessing possession of a deadly weapon. He has arrested again on May 8, 2024 for making terrorist threats, assault and weapon possession. He was booked on another assault charge on June 24th, 21st of 2024. The man from Mexico was arrested in probation violation by Test and Police Department of April 17th. I arrested again by Test and on June 29th, 2023, for assault. Your later on June 16th, 2023, he was arrested for robbery by the Test and Police Department, and again for robbery on August 15, 2024. A Guatemalan man was arrested on October 10, 2022 for robbery, and burglary, by the Placential Police Department. He was arrested again was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was in the state of the year, I was that year he was arrested for kidnapping, two charges of false imprisonment and car jacking, and in February 18th, 2023 he was arrested for kidnapping, two charges of false imprisonment and car jacking. On December 18th, 2023, he was arrested for a court order violation of drug charges. On March 20th, 2024, he was arrested for violating a straining order and arrested on October 24 on drug charges. A man from Romania was arrested by Anna and police department on August 2nd, 2023 for Grand Theft. Identity theft and two charges of burglary and theft of credit cards. Six months later, he was arrested by the Buena Park Police Department for probation violation. Another man from Romania was arrested for burglary on May 8, 2024. The resident fugitive charges from another state on May 14, 2024. and the rest of them on July 2, 2024 for organized retail theft, burglary, and grant theft. Finally, a man from Vietnam was arrested seven times in a period of two years. The parole violation on August 31, 2023, grant theft on October 31, 2023, violation of parole in December 20th, 2023. Another parole violation on January 13th, 2024. Apparently following the law was nominated one of his New Year's resolutions. On June 14th, 2024, he was arrested on drug charges and parole violations. On July 25th, he was arrested for burglary and drug violations. And on September 18th, 2024, he arrested again for burglary and drug violations. Continuing to notify ICE, over the release of these criminals, is critical to the safety of our community. The facts I just shared demonstrate that those who are not picked up by ICE continue to victimize our community and consume law enforcement resources. Across the nation, we have seen the tragic murder of victims like Lincoln, Riley, and Justin Nungry. We do not want tragedies like these in Orange County. For the last few years, I have spoken of the crisis at our southern border and the threat opposes to our nation, and the border is now secured and it is encouraging to see the sharp decline in illegal crossings. However, these numbers do not mean the threat has been abated. While most of those who crossed the border in the last few years undoubtedly were in search of a better life, their sheer volume overwhelmed resources and made it difficult to stop those who seek to harm us. As an example, 169 people on the FBI Terror Watchlist were encountered between ports of entry at this southern border during the federal fiscal year 2023. That same federal fiscal year with an estimated 860,000 Godaways, meaning somebody was detected on a system and was not encountered by ICE or Customs and Border Protection that year. There was a high likelihood others on the terror watch list entered our country without an encounter. This highlights the continued need to communicate with our federal partners and do the work necessary to ensure criminal offenders and those who seek to harm us are removed from the community. Even as we do this work, we continue to have barriers to communication due to California's sanctuary laws. I stressed in 2017 that if I prohibit it from leasing those criminal offenders into the custody of ICE in a controlled environment within our jails, which is safer for everyone involved, including the law-biting residents of our Orange County communities, that ICE would go into the community to find them and arrest them. And if they did that, they would take other people who are undocumented with them. This is why I continue to call for the repeal of SB 54. We have no desire to enforce immigration law. We never have and we never well. But we must have the ability to communicate and ensure threats and the removal of criminal offenders who pray upon our community, often within the immigrant communities in which they reside. I welcome any questions you may have with me. Thank you, Sheriff. I'm going to close up on hearing I kept it open so that your remarks would be part of the public record as well. So we've heard from the public and now I'm going to bring back to the board for any comments, questions and concerns that you may have. Any member who wants to speak or question? I do not see any. I'm sorry. Supervisor Sarmianto. Thank you, Chair. Thank you, Chair, for coming in and addressing us and giving us your perspective. I also want to thank the members of the public that came and spoke. I don't have any questions for you, so I appreciate what you said, and I'll go ahead and if I do something does come up, I'll call you back, but I don't want you standing there just impatiently in the event that I don't have a specific question. I do want to just clarify what we're here for today, and I understood the comments from the public as being broader than maybe what the scope of what the item is today. Today we're looking at California's transparent review of unjust transfers and holds act that requires a community forum to be held each year and to provide the public with information about what access to individuals had been provided to the immigration and customs enforcement by county law enforcement departments during the preceding year. So we're looking backwards to 2024 to see what the numbers were, what the data was. And so the other piece of information I think that I wanted to share is to let you know that The board of supervisors doesn't have any policy oversight over the sheriff. We can't dictate what the sheriff's Decision on whether or not he's going to abide by The truth act the values act those are things as an independently elected official here in the county. He has that discretion. We have discretion over budgetary items over his department, but we don't have oversight over his policy direction. We saw that in San Diego County, the Board of Supervisors wanted to move in one direction. The sheriff wanted to move in the other, and the sheriff, when it had independently used their discretion there, not to concur with the Board of Supervisors. So this is certainly the venue for you to come and comment. And I do wanna tell you that since I've been here at the Board, one of the first concerns for many of you and continue to be is that this public hearing is held at a time that's not accessible, especially to working people. So I hosted last week a community forum as I did last year, many of you who are here today didn't make it to that forum. That was held during the week in the evening and made available with a lot of the same data that was provided here today. So to the extent that these forms, a form similar to this was provided for you and many of you didn't attend, it was disappointing because we had representatives from the Mexican Consulates Office, representatives from the Public Defenders Office, nonprofit organizations that spoke here today, and unfortunately, many weren't that are here today, weren't there at a time that was convenient. So I do just want to remind you take advantage of those opportunities and make sure that you're present and you speak at those because look they weren't held before and to the extent that we want to continue them. If we're talking to ourselves or to an empty room they won't continue. So make sure you take advantage of that. Let me also begin by saying that I don't think you know anybody wants to have people who violate the law, who commit crime, to go unpunished. That's really not what I believe many of you were saying, I'm certainly not saying that, those who violate the law deserve to be punished. I just think we're talking about another extension of that, which is the double punishment that many of you were talking about, which is on top of being punished for the offense that you've committed for you to be transferred to for deportation on top of that, especially when you've already served your time for the offense that you were arrested for. I do think that what's important for us to understand is there have been some gains as well that we've made. I know we've increased the number of Pedia attorneys for our public defenders office and those are critically important to make sure that they provide legal representation for those who are held to make sure that they've been given their due process. They've been provided counsel. And so I want to thank many of you and I want to thank the public defender for his staff to be able to provide that service. We also have a much better relationship with the Mexican Consulate's office that can now access better information from the sheriff and I appreciate the sheriff's office being cooperative with the Mexican consulate when they call before there wasn't as much information that was easily attainable and now there is. So those are all good things and also I want to thank the Attorney General's office because I know that the Attorney General put out a memo to law enforcement clarifying which crimes ought not to be considered when screening for ICE, transfer eligible for previous convictions. We know that those clarifications are important because there are an enumerated list of violent and dangerous crimes under SB 54 that are crimes that people should be transferred for. But we do know that there are counties that don't do any transfers. So it certainly falls within the discretion of each sheriff in their respective counties to decide how they're going to handle that. I know in San Diego County, for example, which is our peer county in 2023. San Diego had 1,059 screenings and referred 185 people to ICE, but ICE only picked up 25. In 2023, San Bernardino County had 1,019 screenings and referred 76 people to ICE, but ICE only picked up four. So there is a disparity in what we're doing here of the 58 counties. I believe we transfer more and more are picked up by ICE. So there are some questions about why our numbers continue to be higher. You know, I don't know if we're doing a much more effective job, or are we doing a more casting a wider net. So we want to understand those questions, and I think that's what these forms are important for us to have. I know that one of the things that we can make some headway in, and I appreciate the Sheriff's staff being responsive to us, and I certainly appreciate the letter that he sent out, and consistently stating that the sheriffs will not enforce immigration law. It's a responsibility of the federal government. It is a federal question, so I certainly appreciate that clarity. And I would like to partner with him to make sure that the public understands that. That we maybe do something together to make sure that the public knows that his department is not in the business of enforcing a federal issue, a federal question. So I certainly think that the outreach to the public would be helpful to ensure that the immigrant community knows that. You know what's important here is that we realize that as we talk about trust being eroded by some of these practices, we realize that as long as people feel fearful, they won't report crimes. So this may be counterintuitive to what we're trying to do. If people feel fearful, they won't be witnesses if they see a crime being committed. So are we, you know, what I guess what I'm lacking is data that shows that these transfers actually result in a reduction of crime. And if they do, let's figure it out. Let's understand what the data shows. But I have yet to hear in the two years that I've been at this board that it shows that crime is being decreased. So, as a result of this. So, I think there's some questions that need to be answered. I think information being shared is critically important. I know we asked for some of the data to be shared with our office and we'd like to have it shared early and not excessively early. Maybe 30 days in advance of this hearing. Unfortunately, we weren't provided that information. We had to actually get it from a nonprofit organization that did a public records act request. That's not something that we should be having to do. Relying on outside organizations to get information that should be available to all our offices. So I hope we can do better in information sharing at baseline. You should be able to share with our office what we need to do so we can share with our constituents and that's not acceptable. So I hope that we can do better there. I also hope that as we look at different policies going forward, to the extent that we have a community forum. we'd love to have a representative from the Sheriff's Office join us and be able to field questions from members of the public. You are a duly elected official, and I think answering questions from the community in a setting that's accessible. We'd certainly love to partner with you and make that available. But those are things that I think moving forward. We can certainly do. We want to make sure we address this and answer questions that members of the public have posed here today. That is the purpose of the truth act. And we want to make sure we don't just simply go through a perfunctory hearing where we're just getting data and not really moving forward and seeing, does this really work? Is this really achieving the goal that we all want, which is to have a safe community? I think all of us want that. Nobody wants to be put in peril. But there is a distinction between somebody being arrested or re-arrested and somebody being convicted. So those things also need to be clarified. So let's make sure that as we go through our conversation, we be thorough in what our answers are and what the data shows. So I look forward to working with the Sheriff's Office. I know we're working on legislation to also make sure that those who are detained have access to council. And so that's something that we are going to be reaching out to our advocates at the state level to make sure that we can include that. As some of the information that's provided to those who are detained, we're also trying to work with Project Kinship for those who are being released from custody for them to have some information about immigrant resources for immigrants and those leaving our jails. So, to the extent that those are things that we believe will be helpful, that's something that our office is trying to pursue. And we certainly appreciate the folks who came here and spoke and gave their opinions. I think we need to have more of this. Again, the convenience of whether a Tuesday morning works. I certainly think that we want to make sure and make it accessible to as many people as possible. I want to thank all of you for coming in today and we're certainly going to continue to have this long conversation. Thank you. Thank you, the supervisor, Sarmento, supervisor, Nguyen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to just one appreciate this sheriff for sending his letter and I want to kind to to highlight a few comments here that he's made just to address some of the concerns, some of the speakers. One is he remains focused on violations of state and local laws. He will not ask for the immigration status of victims, witnesses and suspects. The sheriff is also committed to making sure that he exercises fools, extends concerning and release a criminal offenders. And that collaboration helps prevent serious and repeat offenders from returning to the communities where they have prey upon and victimize our communities. And so, one thing that most folks know around California, if you want to commit a crime, don't come to Orange County. We've got two top law enforcement officials here in Orange County that we do not take anybody who will pray against Orange Countings. Some of the comments, comments I know the shares mentioned highlighted some of those who were sent over, released to ICE, kidnapping. Deadly, a soul with the deadly weapon. Domestic violence, robbery, burglary. I mean, these are the violence that we don't want in our community. If someone has a restraining order against one of these individuals, and it could be a domestic violence wife, it could be the family, this is where the sheriff steps in and say, we're not going to let you continue to prey upon this family. And so this is what I appreciate our law enforcement in Orange County is making sure that our top priority already here is protecting Orange County residents and making sure that those who commit a crime are then sought by and full extent of what the sheriff has in his procession will execute. And so again, I just want to thank the sheriff for his continued support in protecting our community. Thank you, Sue Vaz or Wagner? Thank you, Mr. Chairman, briefly a couple of things to highlight. First of all, the sheriff gave us the breakdown of the statistics, but I think the important one that he mentioned, but did not put in that briefing to us, is the 48,000 bookings. And if you do the math, 48,000 bookings in this county over the course of a year, 277 screenings referred to ice, that is slightly more than one half of 1%. We are talking about an extremely small number in the grand scheme of things. And I think that demonstrates the discretion and good judgment on the part of the sheriff and his team to in fact focus on those who are the most disruptive to our community and potentially doing the most damage out there. We hear that these folks have paid their debt to society that they've been rehabilitated. The sheriff's statistics show in many cases, though they have paid their debt to society for one offense or series of offenses, rehabilitation remains out of reach. Those are the many folks that have been that are reoffenders, that some of them with some of the serious crimes the sheriff mentioned and supervisor, wind just mentioned. They are themselves betraying trust. You see signs in the audience, trust, not transfers. Those folks have betrayed the trust that we as a community have placed upon them and curiously enough, and I don't think this gets the attention from some of the activists who've come here and urged us to focus on this, and they are going back into their communities and praying principally on those communities. And I can't blame anybody in any one of our immigrant communities from saying, wait a minute, stop. Protect me from the bad guys no matter what they look like, no matter what the country they come from, no matter what their immigration status, protect me. And I want to give a shout out to the sheriff as Supervisor Win just did, to the DA as Supervisor Win just did, for that extraordinary effort to protect the very people and the very communities that are coming here and complaining because it is in those communities folks have betrayed the trust we are asking to extend to them today. The truth is since we are in the truth forum that for some folks living in the United States is a privilege. And when you have a privilege, it is wise not to abuse that privilege. If that privilege is abused by some of the crimes that were outlined by the sheriff. If that privilege is abused by offending and reoffending and praying on your own community, it is entirely appropriate for the rest of us of any nationality, of any origin, to say we're done with you. And that's what's going on here is the most dangerous amongst us are being told the privilege to live in the United States is at risk if you continue to offend. And we will take appropriate actions. The sheriff is to be saluted, not condemned, for the very judicious use of his power that he's outlined for for us here today. I want to applaud him. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Wagner. If I make a brief comment, I think I trust his key that we in the community trust the sheriff, the sheriff of trust the community that needs to be working together and sharing data. To make an important aspect here is when someone is released from jail, for example, the follow-up to that person has, for example, the job training, we get it for them. We don't release them into homelessness, we make certain there's an opportunity to find housing. And I think that is often a reason for the resivitism that we find with that. If there's no further comments, this form is closed. Now let's go back to item eight. Madam Court, would you please read that item? On a Sheriff's Corner approved to active sub-lease with Clay Lacey Aviation Inc. For Sheriff's Corner, air support bureaus, aircraft storage and office usage on Wayne Airport. Authorized auto-crotroller does need to pay rent, increase of 3% per year without further board approval. Authorized chief realistic officer does need to execute amendments under certain conditions and make SQL exemption findings under SQL guidelines section 15301. And we have one request to speak on agenda item 8. Please call that speaker. Jenny Golden. Jenny Golden. I don't believe she's present. Right. This is a district fight. I don't believe she's present. All right. This is a district fight item item. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So the Sheriff's Corner Air Support Bureau currently uses one hanger for storage and office space located at John Wayne Airport. The county owns the hangers, land and operating rights and leases the 26 hangers to Clay Lacey Aviation for operation and sub leasing to the public. As part of this master lease, Clay Lacey is required to construct all new facilities, a process that is underway. And this item is to approve a retroactive short term interim lease for the relocation to the temporary hanger until we can get a long-term lease once Clay Lacy constructs a new permanent air support facility for the sheriff, which will take about one to two years to complete. I'm glad to see this item moving forward when I first got elected in 2021. I had a meeting with some of the sheriff representatives and we had to resize, I'll say, the ask for Clay Lacey and I think we've done a good job of getting everybody what they needed on that space and making sure that it's affordable for our sheriff's department. So with that, I'll move this item. Moot and seconded, any objection? Item is approved. Item nine,. On a chair of corner retroactively approved payment of invoice to the NIGA's distribution for Orange County Registered newspapers for inmates. We have no request speaking agenda item nine. So district two item. I will move the item. Any objection? Can I have a question? I'll go ahead. I have a question. So I know, Ms. Aguirre, we talked about this, and I'm not sure if it's a question for you or for someone from the Sheriff's Department. But I was doing the math, and we're spending almost $17,000 a month for the newspaper distribution. And I guess it's hard for me to know whether or not individuals are actually requesting the newspaper or if it's just we're buying 300 newspapers a day. And I'm wondering if there's a way that we could implement some kind of request, we could reduce the cost. I just, I can't, I don't have any data to show whether or not anyone's reading the newspapers and whether or not they're just getting dumped somewhere and not being benefited. And I don't know why we can't go online. Also, that was the other question. Why can't we do, seems like it would be a lot less expensive, we had online access to the newspaper. I want us to have access to the news, but can we do it in a less expensive way? Right, thank you, Vice Chair. So the specific questions would be for the Sheriff's Department. We can work with them or we can see if they want to come up. I mean, we obviously can work with them anyway, but Brian's coming up, but be some my experience, Brian, they are reading the paper. But, and then I would assume there are restrictions related to internet access for the accessing the register and any other media, but maybe you can speak to that as well. Mr. Chair, members of the board, Brian, we have the Sheriff's Department. So Supervisor, you answer your question. Title 15 requires us to provide the newspaper regardless whether they're reading it or not. And so, right now, a hard copy is the only option. And so, we're not. We limit, obviously, the numbers of papers that we provide. We don't provide a paper for every inmate. We look at different housing units, depending on the number inmates in a housing unit there might be one paper. You know if there's 20 inmates in a housing unit there might be five or six papers if there's 150 inmates in a housing unit. Online is not an option at this point. Our tablet provider does not have free access to the register or any newspapers at this point. As things continue to evolve in that arena, we'll obviously look to that. But we do have some restrictions based on tablet 15 as far as operations of the jail system having to provide those newspapers. Okay. We could talk more about it, but it seems like the tablet, we could just buy a subscription for the online, and you could buy one subscription as opposed to buying 100. We can definitely look into that. Like I said, right now it's just at least from our perspective, it's with our current tablet provider. It's not an option, but we can reach out to them. OK, and then the unit price we're paying is $2.50 per paper. Isn't that how much it costs? They're not giving us a break on that? The contract goes out to bid and they were, well, technically they weren't the lowest bidder, but they were the lowest responsive bidder. And so we were sort of at that discretion, like I said, we did take the out amount to bid. And so a little different obviously than you were I getting a deliver to our home or whatever I- that discretion, like I said, we did take the out amount to bid. And so a little different obviously than you were I getting it delivered to our home or whatever, obviously from a price perspective, I understand that, but unfortunately this was our most or at least expensive option. Okay. That's fine. All right. Well, thank you. Professor Wagner committee. The committee is the committee. The committee is the do the LA Times or the San Diego whatever their paper is or the- Specify it. Specifies it periodical. Our jail operations folks have chosen the register. We can definitely look into in the future if we can find a different paper. I'm not sure. I mean the register has been the paper we use because it's a local local newspaper Okay, and then so was the response? It was the non-responsive bitters saying I can provide the register but only in one length or were they providing a different They couldn't use all the requirements. I don't have those off the top of my head supervisor as far as why they have I could definitely get that back to your office Thank you Right. Yeah, I think it's been moved and seconded. Any objection? Motion carries. Please read item 10. On a health care agency, poof contract with Phoenix House Orange County Inc. for incursionate substance use disorder treatment services and other as county procurement officer or deputized as a need to exercise cost contingency increase not to exceed 10% under certain conditions and execute contract. We have no requests to speak on agenda item 10. District two item. I'll second it. Any objection? Seeing none, my item is approved. Please read item 11. I don't care agency approve amendment five to renew contract with Anaheim Global Medical Center Inc for inpatient hospital services for correctional health services and Authorized County procurement officer or Dibby ties designated to execute the amendment and we have received two requests to speak on agenda item 11 Please call the speakers Peter barrenoff and Brian K. Mr. Chair, I believe Supervisor Wind has some comments to make your county council. Thank you Madam Clerk. With respect to agenda item 11, I have been informed that Supervisor Wind has received a campaign contribution from the vendor. So,uant to the Levine Act, Sue Reservin will be recusing herself on this item and will not participate in the board's deliberations or vote. Thank you. Good morning, Chair Chafee. Vice Chair Foley and members of the board of supervisors. My name is Peter Barronoff, CEO of KPC Health. Since 1989, Anaheim Global Medical Center has been a proud partner with the US County of Orange in delivering critical correctional health services. As an industry leader and correctional in behavioral and patient acute care across Southern California and the US, we're deeply committed to ensuring that all patients, including those in the county's custody, receive high quality compassion and medical treatment. The longstanding partnership would not be possible without the dedicated leadership of the health care agency. I want to personally thank Dr. Veronica Kelly and her team for their commitment to improving the health and well-being of Orange County's most vulnerable populations. Their work is instrumental in shaping an effective collaborative, patient-centered correctional health system. I also want to extend my sincere appreciation to the Orange County Sheriff's Department for its continued partnership. The Sheriff's Department has been instrumental in assisting us in providing medical care in a correctional setting which requires strong collaboration and the Sheriff's Department has been an essential partner ensuring the safety and well-being of patients and providers. We are honored to continue serving the county in this vital role and we look forward to building on this partnership to meet the county's needs and priorities in the future. Thank you for your consideration of this important agreement. Thank you. May we have the next speaker? Last speaker is Brian K. Happy day. A global giving them about six million, about 36 million total, and you get some of that money back. I realized that they're paid representative and spokesman, spoke very highly of the services offered by global. Might not want to consider that person a viable source of information. I realized that YouTube and the internet, the ratings provided, the reviews, aren't necessarily going to be much more viable. But it is interesting that they carry a four or a five for expecting mothers and childbirth and regular medical services, but their mental health services receives about a one. Part of why they receive a one is because you don't have any of their patients here to complement or commend their services, and the reason why you don't have any of their patients here to compliment and commend their services for mental health, there aren't any here who are willing to promote and say, hey, thank you. They provided good services. I'll share one of the services that they do offer at Global is a beating. They have interns who are ordered to beat a patient, causing a concussion. And then immediately after the concussion, the patient is then forced medication. I think it's thorazine. I'm not quite sure what medical procedure requires that after concussing a patient, they're then forced a mental, a medication that impacts their ability to think and focus. That's the level of the service that you're providing at global. You beat people up and force them medication. And as if that's not bad enough, the medication is injected through the inner thigh and pictures of the patient's genitalia are taken. Just curious, why do you need pictures of everybody's genitalia who you've labeled as mentally ill? Janet, did you know that you're accepting money from people who do that? They take pictures of patients genitalia. And all of this is to help mentally ill people reintegrate into society. I can assure you from my personal experience, from having all of those things happen to me at global, the global does not provide anything remotely considering, remotely along the lines of positive mental health for their patients. And it's a shame that you continue to give them money to do what they're doing. Happy day. I don't know for the speakers, Mr. Chair. All right. I bring this back. I have personally toured global. This is about inmates that need medical care. And that's a difficult task because you have security and medical care kind of combined. And in my view, they did an excellent job. I'm going to move the item. It's been Moodyndesign an objection with. Did you interview any patients or just please you're done. All right, we're supervising the wind up staining the motion carries. All right, please read item 12. On a health care easy approve of amendments 6 to master contract and individual contracts with various providers of recovery residents services. And authorized can I be given an officer a deputy designated to execute amendment. We have no request to speak on agenda item 12. It's an all district item. Seconded seconded objection, motion carries. Item 413, please. Under health care agency, approve of amendment 3 to renew master contract with individual contracts with various providers of behavioral health, Cal work services and authorized county procurement officer or to advertise designated to execute amendments. We have no request to speak on agenda and 13. This is a one, two, and five district item? We didn't seconded any objection, motion carries. Item 14, please. Under healthcare agency approve of amendment two to contract with B.O. Mary U for laboratory equipment maintenance and supplies and renew contract. And authorize county procurement officer at Dipitized Designate to execute amendment. We have no request to speak on agenda item 14. The district to item. Second moved in seconded in objection. Motion carries item 15 please. I do OC public works approve contract with energy cap LLC for utility management and billing system. And authorized county procurement officer or deputized designated to execute contract. We have no request to speak on agenda item 15. In all district item. In second. Any objection? Motion carries item 16 has been continued. Item 17, please. I don't see public work acting as a board of supervisors in Orange County Flood Control District. Approved amendment 2 to bring new aggregate contracts with J. Orozco Interprises Inc. Doing business as Orozco Landscape Entry Company and Nature's Images Inc. for Channel Cleaning Services and authorized County procurement officer at Dippetized as a need to execute amendments. We have no requests to speak on agenda item 17. All district item. Second, an objection? Motion carries item 18, please. Under OC Public Works, section has a board of supervisors in Orange County Flood Control District. A proof subordinate contract with Property Security Services Inc. For unarmed security guard services. And authorized county procurement officer, deputized as they need to execute contract. We have no requests to speak on agenda item 19. Excuse me, 18. It's all district item. Oh yeah. In the second, an objection, motion carries. Item 19 please. I don't see public work. Second, as a board of supervisors in Orange County flood control district, approve amendment amendment to renew contract with OFRS Inc. for Environmental Multi-Purpose Maintenance Service. An authorized County procurement officer deputized designated to execute amendment. We have no request to speak on agenda item 19. So all district item. Second, an objection. Motion carries item 20, please. Under social service, they see approve amendment 3 to contract with go forth and Marty doing business as GM business interiors for office furniture installation and related services at various social services agency facilities and Authorized can't be given officer deputy to his designate to execute amendment. We have no request to speak on agenda item 20. So I'll district item. Sue Vazza-Foli. Thank you. Just a couple of questions. I think the item got changed in terms of the up to not to exceed amount. Is that right, Ms. Geary? I was told it was reduced to four million. Miss Engelby, is that right? Sorry, Vice Chair. My understanding was the department was willing to change it to 4 million. I don't know that we actually revised it though. Correct. So they're happy to do that. The 6 million included right was a 3-year contract and then it had installation plus furniture installation was not previously included in the contract so that's why you see the increase but the department's happy to modify that and I believe on is here yeah if you have any specific questions related to it. Okay so my concern was that it's not 6 million over three, it's six million for one year and it's 17 million over the three years as I read it, right? No, two million per year. Revise cumulative total amount not to exceed 17 million for the 22 through 27. So okay, so we have six million left. Is that what you're saying? It's correct. $6 million is what would be approved. And it's an up to amount, so they would only use it if needed. And it's to prepare for potential moves. And I think the agenda item, or we followed up with examples. I understand. What I'm concerned about is that we have this budget gap that we're trying to close. And if we keep voting on up to not to exceed amounts that are well above what we need, then we're not going to be able to close the budget gap. So if they only need 2 million or 4 million based on the prior year's expenses, then it seems like we should reduce these not-to-exceed numbers so that we don't have 2 million extra in that category. And if we look at all of these contracts, we're approving that are not-to-exceed certain amounts and we shave off 2 million,, two million to a, I mean, we're going to have a significant reduction for the budget to close that gap. And look, I, whatever they need, we should pay for. But it doesn't seem like they need six million. It seems like it's a lower number based on the prior years. So that's my concern. So if we, if we could do four 4 million that would give us 2 million more in our budget to close the gap. So I'll move the item with 4 million not 6 million. I'm looking at funding source also. Because they can always a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. I don't think there is, you would just come back. So I just want to give you an opportunity to speak in case there's something that I'm missing. Thank you, Chair J. Fee, members of the board on Transsocial Services Agency. Thank you for the question. We certainly can reduce the contract to 4 million. It is a planning projection that we have because there are, we are looking at some potential facilities issues and some facilities move us, we look at least termination for various facilities. So while we are estimating that this may, this contract may be utilized, we will not budget for items that we do not plan on going forward. It is again a contingency budget in which we are hoping to be able to execute if things come into fruition with our facilities move. Okay. The other issue is that apparently in this contract we don't have our termination clause. Is that right? I'm not aware of that, but I could certainly look into it. It isn't us needed contract. We will only utilize the contract if we have a project that is planned. That's all I had. I was reading through a lot of these contracts for this particular meeting. We have a lot of up to not to exceed certain amounts and when I asked about how much did we spend the year prior was well above what we've expended. So it would be I think who was to look at our contracts and maybe take 10% above what we spent the prior year so that we can reduce that gap and we can have an actual understanding of what the real gap is. Because if we're, you know, my preference is to focus on our human resources and not furniture. So if we can reduce the gap, we can make sure that we have savings for our human resources. Thank you, Madam. Okay, there's been a motion to modify that the 6 million is now 4 million in the ASR. Yes, Council. And just for the record, thank you, Vice Chair Foley. So as I'm looking at what is actually before the board, it's a amendment number three and if the motion is successful, I anticipate there'll be a minor change in the recitals and a minor change in paragraph one to reflect the 4 million total instead of the 6 million total and we'll adjust the other numbers accordingly. All right, with that clarification, we have a motion. Is there a second? Not hearing a second. All right, let's go back to the staff presentation. Is there a motion to approve the item as presented? Moved in seconded. An objection? Well, we had one, I'm not sure. So is there a fully agreed? The seconded, yes. Well, because it's not the same as your motion. I don't know that. All right, the item carries without objection. Thank you. Item 21, please. Under Social Services Agency, I approve amendment two to renew contract. I'm sorry, did I miss a comment from supervisor Nguyen? We'll quick Mr. Chairman. I was just wondering if there, I know that we still have quite some items. And I know we have our district attorney and our clerk recorder here for item 30. I was only, I was wondering if we can give them the courage to moving that item up after the item that after 20 After item 20 if that's okay Mr. Chairman We already approved In that last year up objection to the boy the motion is I think we need to move on to the next item Yeah, if we can move on to item 20 that we are looking at right now and maybe after item 20, if we can move up item 30. Oh, you want to instead of going to item 21, you want to go to the call count. Sorry, I misunderstood. Without objection, we'll do that. Thank you. Item 30, please. district attorney, public hearing to consider adopting resolution, approving increase a real estate fraud prosecution fee from $3 to $10. Recending resolution 24-017 and making sequel exemption findings under sequel guideline The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. The second. wondering if I'm going to bring it back to the board. We're going to comments, questions, and motion. I was wondering if the DA has any comments he would like to make. No, okay. He always has comments, you know, so. If either of our. I'm here to thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. If there's any specific questions, I'm happy to answer them. I have some questions. Okay, but you're off the hook. They're easy peasy, but I just want to make sure that it's on the record, Mr. DA. So I noticed that we're jumping from, we're jumping to $10. You're a fiscal year. So I guess why did we decide to go to $10, as opposed to say $6 or eight years and what difference would that make? Supervisor, thank you very much for your question. Let me fly through these, I think I can answer your questions or any other general questions that probably are foreseeable. Just so you know the real estate fraud fee is authorized by state law. We have to come here every single year and give you an annual report so it allows the board to have oversight every single year. Every three years I'm required to come here and ask for you to either renew an existing fee or approve an increase. We use that money for investigation, prosecution, and restitution. Over the last three years, we've collected $27 million for individuals who have been victims of fraud. If you look at this particular chart between 20 and 2024, we had revenues that met expenses in 20 to 21. But subsequent to that, there's been obviously several factors we are all aware of. There's been a significant decrease in the number of real estate transactions in the last three years. That has substantially reduced the amount of revenue that we collect as a result of the filing of certain real estate documents that our clerk, Recorder Mr. Wynn, who is present is responsible for collecting and recording. So the state law allows the me to come here and ask with your approval for us to increase the recording fee for those documents. I feel that it's incumbent on me, especially as individuals in the last discussion raised, the fact that the county is trying to seek revenue opportunities and we all know that we have a serious budget deficit to close. This program should not be running since it's fee-based. It should not be running deficiently. So the yellow is the space of the amounts of money year by year that we are not collecting to cover our expenses. It's no longer keeping up with costs. Interest rates have suppressed the real estate market as I indicated recordings are down. And so the request is to raise it to $10. That will do the best I can to close the deficit. My deficit will still remain, it will just be substantially less. I'm showing you the other large counties and other counties in California to show you where we stand with respect to other counties. And so you can see that a substantial number of large counties have been at $10. And orange is at the far end of the spectrum, consistent with San Diego, and which is obviously our neighboring county. And then LA County to the north is at $5, I believe. But we do have information, and I'm talking to my other colleagues around the state, that they are similarly looking at potentially asking their board of supervisors to increase the fee because they're not recovering costs. Mr. Win and I then send a document when he records a document of the enumerated documents that are covered by the ordinance. We are allowed then we do send a notice to those individuals to let them know two things. One, a recorded instrument has been recorded against your property, which is obviously an interest we all want to protect. If there's fraud and somebody didn't record that instrument, this would alert them that something has happened to their interest in their property. Then the second portion of the notice indicates to them that in the event you didn't record that document, you should immediately call the District Attorney's Office so we can investigate the fraudulent recording or potential fraudulent recording of that document. So the answer, I hope I included the answers to your questions, but I do want to just show you for edification. I just wanted to let you know I can explain this. The real estate fee has been increased here every, but not fee. The report has been approved by this board unanimously every single year since the program's inception. And then the fee has been approved nearly unanimously. You, Supervisor Winn, I'm sure you recall, when you were here in 2009, when the fee first came into existence prior to the patches of Prop 26 You voted against it and then you were gracious enough in subsequent years And then I think that the DA's office with my predecessor was able to work with your office and show you over time that Your community in particular and a lot of vulnerable communities were being preyed af fraud. And so as a result of the good work of the District Attorney's Office then and our continued good work, I think we're doing a really good job alerting the public in the event that there's fraud or purported fraud that might be occurring on people's recorded instruments. That could cloud their title. Mr. Chairman, may I continue? All right, any further questions? I see this as a fee recovery, and even so it doesn't quite go all the way. I'd like to commend you for the good work of preventing fraud and also our county clerk. Thank you all that you're doing as well. Okay well get to him. Oh I thought you were all right well sorry. No worries. I thank you Mr. Chairman. I just want to thank the DA. He's right. We actually worked on a few cases in our office that were, we were alerted from the community. We sent it over to the DA's office in the past. And also, our current DA has worked on a recent case in our district as well. And both cases were favorably prosecuted and help put these individuals out of our community and so this is a program that does work and Our district attorneys correct. I was Skeptico wasn't supportive beginning, but I saw the result of this and what's needed what needed in this is not just Because it's a deficit, it's actually maintaining the office. We cannot lose these prosecutors and personnel if there is a deficit. We want to maintain the work in that office so that they can continue to do the work that's needed in our community. So I appreciate that and thank you for your comments. Thank you very much for your questions. All right, sure as a sarmuero. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you, Mr. D.A. I missed a lot of what you said, but what I did want to say wasn't so much a question but a comment to both you and the clerk recorder. First of all, thank you for not only presenting here before the public and before us, but for taking the time in advance to come meet with the offices and to see if we had any questions individually. This is what I understand, a modest cost recovery request, and I know you answered all my questions and my staff's questions when we met. So I'm perfectly comfortable with that. I just appreciate the process that both of you took to come in with your staffs to meet with us and field any questions. I think that's the way we should do. Anytime we have an adjustment like this, this is a modest one and you took the time to do that. So that is the way we should practice these adjustments. And one of the things I know I took away from that meeting was that in the event things improve in the industry and we get back to where we were. These could. adjustments and one of the things I know I took away from that meeting was that in the event things improve in in the industry and we get back to where we were These could be re-adjusted down So that is something that I took away and I certainly do applaud you for that Thank you for the effort and thank you for presenting it the way you did both of you to your team So I am supportive of the item as well. You're very kind supervisor and just I think that's an important point to underscore and I probably didn't do a good job. Because of the annual review, if in the event the market recovers because interest rates had been going down but now they've seen to stabilize and actually they appear to be going back up but in the event the Fed changes the rates and we see home mortgage rates go down then on on our annual basis we're required to come to you and explain that. And then we can do a readjustment if for example we're collecting too much money and we exceed the amount of revenue as against our expenses. Then we're no longer in compliance and we have an obligation then to adjust the fee. So you have my assurance not only am in my statutory mandated to do that, but I would do that nevertheless irrespective of that because it's certainly the right thing to do. Okay. Thank you, Anya, for their comments. It has been moved in second, is there any objection? Motion carries. I thank you all for your good work. Thank you very much. Now I think we go back to number 21. Under social services agency, approve amendment two to renew contract with Children's Home Society of California. For a bridge program, child care navig state of the state of the state of the state of the state of the state by the report that is signed by the report that is signed by the report that is signed by the report that is signed by the report that is signed by the report that is signed by the report that is signed 23, please. Under social services agency approve amendment two to aggregate contract for integrated job services and amendment two for individual contracts for employment services and for subsidized employment vocational training services with Arbor E and T LLC doing business as Equus workforce solutions. and the author's County officer at Dipitized Design to exercise cost contingency increase not to exceed 10% under certain conditions and execute amendments and we have no requests to speak on agenda item 23. So district item. Have a motion. Move in seconded any objection objection? Motion carries. Item 24, please. Under social services agency approve amendment 1 to contract with all of crest for foster family agency resource family homes. Test and family campus. An authorised can be current officer deputized designated to execute amendment. We have no request to speak on agenda item 24. In district three item. Second, an objection. Motion carries. Item 25, please. We can't executive office approve recommended position on introduce or amended legislation and or consider other legislative subject matters. And Mr. Chair, we received two requests to speak on agenda item 25. Please call the speakers. Allen, Octenberg, and Patty, Kabata. Supervisor and board, Alan Octoberg. Thanks for giving me the time to talk about agenda item 25. About seven years ago, I was working with Representative Sharon Quirk Silva and with Florida to try to implement similar type registration requirements which also in comparing those to what they were doing in Florida. The other call it major hub or major center of the substance abuse industry in addition to Orange County. And in Florida they were able to pass much more stringent registration requirements at the state level and have benefited from it. However, they still do experience a lot of the same difficulties that we do in our communities and I'll just rather than getting details of legislation, I myself saw still see holes in the way that the wording of this so that people will be able to effectively manage group homes and get insurance proceeds in order to maintain the properties. And that's in addition to what is being promoted by the behavioral health industry, SB 363 and 35, which is going to require insurance companies to pay without review on any claims. So it's something that we still need to try to focus on. And then in addition to all of that, I'll say that even at the county level, I heard in the earlier in the presentation at the very onset, there's good speech that was given by the GAL about the disabled and about how you can't legislate attitudes. And it really comes from an attitude of being serious and trying to take the community serious and trying to eliminate the fraud and abuse and waste. And I'll cut my time early, but just in the last couple weeks, at the South by Southwest investment conference, where they also run some films, the documentary that won was one that highlights this issue in Florida called Shuffle. And so it's funny, years ago, when writing to others about this in Orange County, I said that if somebody wanted a movie, they can ask me, I don't have to see the movie because I've seen it all firsthand. And those who are interested, just continue to ask for people to help in order to try to clean this up, thanks. Thank you. May I have the next speaker please? Good morning board. On April 1st at 9 a.m. A B 89 will be scheduled for its first hearing. The bill will ensure males will not be in female high school sports. Over the weekend, I was at the Tracking Field invitation let your Belinda high school where I saw a trans student biological male compete against biological girls. And let me tell you that was heartbreaking to watch and it was heartbreaking talking to the girls that were participating there and talking to their parents. I don't know if you understand what a difficult time these girls are having in high school. When you watch these girls compete and they finish whatever it is that they're doing when they're jumping, the looks on their faces they try so hard in the sport that they participated. But yet they can't compete with the biological boy, but they're forced to because the law states that they have to, biological girls have lost their space in high school sports. In the same spaces where they will compete in to try to get scholarships, and now they no longer have an opportunity like that when they are competing against a biological boy. When these girls, for instance, the ones that competed against this young man, when they were doing their trial jumps, they tried so hard. Many of them fell and you can tell that they were injured, but these girls they try and they try. And they cannot compete with a biological man. He's a boy. I don't care if he identifies as a girl. And it is okay to say that boys and girls cannot compete. People are not being hateful towards a child in general. We just want girls to be able to compete with biological girls because it's fair. That used to be a thing. So I'm asking that you please take the time and look in the bill to support girls sports. It's time that local officials start supporting the girls and not looking the other way. These are the same people that are constituents in all of your cities. These are the same people that will vote for you. These children, they will graduate and they will remember who spoke up for them when they really needed it. Maybe you should take time out of your day sometime and go and attend one of these sports events. Talk to the girls. Talk to their parents. Because their voice is matter. and go and attend one of these sports events. Talk to the girls, talk to their parents, because their voices matter, and it's not okay that girls are being erased in high school. Thank you. No for the speakers, Mr. Chair. All right, so, Rosarino, will? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just want to just make a few comments. I'm 100% with this speaker. I'm off of the girl sports. I play softball and soccer. And I'll tell you, I've got two boys. And one of my son is he plays baseball. He's a six foot tall, 14-year-old. You don't want him to play softball. He would dominate if he was to play softball. He already does really well in dominates in his own in baseball with other boys. So I think we should look at, making sure one thing is just so the speaker understand is that the items before us today are for Orange County issues. I tried to put a few bills in there too and that was more county wide, was in a specific Orange County and staff has asked us to work on that efforts on our own and we are doing that but you know I think so I want you to understand that this is not a this the package we have in front of us today is purely targeting specific areas that affect the county of orange and not a a broad, you know, county why county issues that each of us could champion. But you know, so the bills, as I mentioned, you know, we're here, you know, it does reflect the commitment the commitment to ensuring Orange County remains a place of opportunity, safety and growth. Our influence extend beyond these chambers. And I know that we do have connections, we do have resources and voices that must be used effectively. Each one of us up here has our own connections, have our own resources that we can reach out to make sure that Orange County is protected and I'm obviously a little biased by coming from Sacramento for last eight years. I truly believe that we have to engage let's safely. That process, if we aren't at the table, we will be on the menu. And I think Orange County has been and the menu, could fight quite some time. It's time for us to get ourself to Sacramento or to DC to shape policies that impact our residents, businesses, and communities. And so I encourage you know, all of us to continue to remain active and form and be very strategic as we approach this coming year with our deficit and what Sacramento is doing, what the federal government is doing in many areas. So I encourage us to continue to work together to ensure that Orange County priorities are heard, respected and act upon. We shouldn't be the last one in the room. should should be in the forefront, just like any other counties. For example, I heard the city of LA mayor was in Sacramento, yesterday, asking for a billion dollar bailout from Sacramento. Don't let LA just be the only one. And so I think it's time for us to get in the forefront, get out there. And I would do my best to continue to put in the county forward and continue to draw upon folks that I know in Sacramento whether that members or administrative staff within the governor's office or the departments to continue to help our county. And so I applaud staff for the package although I would like a few other bills so we'll continue to have that discussion. And so again, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, so as when? Supervisor Foley? Thank you.. We are going to be heading to Sacramento on the first. And of course all of these bills that we have in this legislative bulletin are ones that are really important to Orange County and I'll be supporting but I wanted to highlight a few that are important to district five. The whole county, but in particular District 5. So a support for AB 303, which is a assembly member, Dawn Addis's bill on battery energy safety and accountability act. This will improve the safety standards and restore local oversight for energy storage facilities in California. The bill would also require critical local engagement in the permitting process for battery or energy storage facilities, create environmental setback requirements for sensitive areas, including schools, hospitals, and natural habitats. We know that we need to move to clean energy, but we have to make sure that as we build these facilities that we keep safety, especially in wildfire zones in mind. And then the battery storage energy system, sometimes referred to as best project in San Juan Capastrano, borders the city of Laguna Miguel, the residential neighborhood literally looks down on the best facility. It's adjacent to dry fire prone open space areas. Just yesterday, Cal Fire released our new Fire Severity maps and they placed San Juan Capastrano that project right in the high Fire Severity zone surrounded by very high fire severity zones. So not really a good location for this particular facility, but we don't really have standards or regulations that we can rely on to prevent this. So we of course at the county we're working on our own regulations. We have our temporary more, more torn in place that will last for, I think it's about a year at this point, and will make progress, but I do support an AB 303 support position. And then SB 741 is Senator Blake Spears, Coastal Resources, Coastal Development Permit, and Local Emergency Declaration Bill at OCTA, the LEG committee and the OCTA board voted to support this bill. And this bill in a nutshell will help us to get expedited permitting so that we can get sand approval for replenishing the beaches and creating a sand buffer for the coastal rail. So this is an important bill that OCTA and our office have been supporting with Senator Blake Spear so we'll ask for support on that one. And the last bill that I had that I wanted to support but I guess it's going to be pulled for consideration to get input from our DA and our sheriff is Assemblywoman Coddy Petronaurus bill AB 366, which would mandate ignition interlock devices for all DUI offenders. So we'll see how that changes, but really important bill. The sober living home bills that are being proposed are also very important. This space is one that I think the gentleman who spoke, that Sharon Quirk Silva Bill, I was a city council member and then mayor at the time for City Costa Mesa, we helped to help her sponsor that bill. And we've had a hard time getting legislation through in Sacramento that will give local control and create a regulatory framework to protect patients and the community at large from profiteering sober living homes that are not really about taking care of people. So what I have been encouraging is we support these bills that are going through, but knowing that it's a challenge that we also get all of our 34 cities to adopt the model ordinance, which the county has, as well as the city of Costa Mesa. I've been trying to get our cities. I think we're looking at, Felt Valley is moving forward. I just heard and San Juan Capastrano possibly. So we really need to get more of our cities to adopt the ordinance because that's where we're gonna be able to have have the protection. So that's all I have and I don't know if we have a motion but I'll approve the item. In the second any further comments there's second. In second any objection motion carries that's gone to seal beach library 707 electric avenues seal beach and authorize chief real estate officer designated exercise option terms and execute subsequent amendments or documents and Sure conditions and make sequel exemption findings and a secret guidelines section 15301 we have no requests speak on agenda item 26 district one item. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is district one item. item. We've entered the city. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is district one item. We've entered an agreement with the city back starting in 1976 for 20 years. It has now coming to expiring. So we are, this renewal is inclusive 10 year term and the two year renewal options and with this I move approval, Mr. Chairman. Second, any objection? Motion carries, item 27, please. I can't executive office. I approve amendment five to renew contract with people assisting the homeless for rapid rehousing services for individuals. I approve amendment four to renew contract with families forward for rapid rehousing service for families. And author is County procurement officer to advertise designated excuse amendments. We have one request to speak on agenda item 27. Please call the speaker. Paul Hayek. Are they looking at how are they going to house these people during this transition? Are they going to put them in a shelter? Are they going to background them if they don't qualify? Are they not going to let them get into a shelter for the winter? Let's make these shelters a walk-in walk-out. We need to get these people off the street. We've had people dying and we had one die in Fullerton. Who was a friend? We need to get these shelters opened up where we need to get them walked in. Not. The winter to be walked in, walk out. And why we're at it? Take these shelters, have the homeless that want to work, help set them up and tear them down. We can use the manpower and across will be like, NIL, we know what we can do. No for the speakers, Ms. Scherrin. Thank you, Madam Chair. Clark, any questions, concerns? May I have a motion on this district item? I can. Seconded, any objection? Motion carries. Item 28, please. I can't executive office to approve amendment two to lease agreement with Santa Ana California 1SGFLLC for public defenders expansion and continued use of office space at eight of one west of Exeter Drive in Santa Ana. Authorized chief real estate officer designated to exercise option terms and execute subsequent amendments or documents under certain conditions and make secret exemption findings under the Secret Guidelines Section 15301. We have no request to speak on agenda item 28. District 2 item. Second. You didn't say an objection. Motion carries. You now come to item 29 I believe. Under can executive office approved grant Applications Awards by health agency, OC community resources, OC public works and sheriff corner and retroactive grant applications awards submitted by health agency in March 25, 2025 grant report and other actions as recommended. In adopt resolution approving standard agreement amendment three with California Department of Aging for Aging and Disability Resource Connection Program and authorizing OCE Community Resources Director or Designed to execute amendment and related documents. We have two requests to speak on agenda item 29. Please call the speakers. Brian K. Please take over. Court Chaplain Vu. Happy day. Talking about the grants, the grant money. What you get it for and what you end up spending it on. Recently William Ha, Orange County District Attorney, stood here and said that he's holding $150 million grant. And he's using it to fight hate crimes. Which is strange because that's a lot of work. $150 million, recording all those hate crimes, prosecuting them. Yet for about two years, two and a half years, William Ha was prosecuting me for reporting a hate crime. So I reported that officer Michael Kuna of the Anaheim Police Department answered my question when I asked him if he knew that a person could be both Polish and Jewish. And his answer was very clear. He sent me a text message. And I believe all of you have copies of this text message. And you're aware that that's what he said. He said, Polish people in Jewish people are both the N word. And all of you approve. You said, that's what we want to spend our money on. Wow, really, that's something that you've agreed upon. You say you want to have an Anaheim police officer who believes that Polish people and Jewish people are the N-word. Any promoters says, don't twist my verbiage. This police officer is arresting people based on his hate. And how he arrests them. He doesn't approach them politely and asks them to put their hands behind their back. He's violent. In fact, the public defender's office has contacted me two or three times since this and said that officer Michael Koon is escalating. What he did to you was nothing compared to what he's done to the next two victims, two or three victims. And so while you sit up there, Janet, you winking at somebody in the back row? Okay. No, absolutely, but the speaker's over here. Mr. K. K. K. K. K. I'm not sure if any of you aware of a gentleman by the name of Benjamin Farronks. Please address the item. And he was a criminal defense attorney. I am. You're not aware of it. You're probably on medication right now. The grants, please. So I understand that the medication you're taking makes it impossible for you to understand a public speaker. So my who's addressing the grant money, the money that you've accepted, and the money that you've given William Ha $150 million, what's he doing with it? You might want to pay attention to Benjamin Farronx and when he prosecuted the German officers, the Nazis. And his expression was, hey, these officers would just look off into the distance while he was interrogating them, while he was questioning them. Believe it, here he is, a great human being interviewing Nazis during a trial and they all stand off and stare into the distance. That's what you're doing. You might want to take some historical context. See how you're spending that money. Happy day. Next afternoon board. My notes almost lunchtime. And thank you for giving me the opportunity. I'll just keep it very short today. And as you can see, the clerk is going to be giving each and every single one of the board members, including the chairman. A form 56. you guys don't know about that. Or today I come not in protest but in purpose as a man of cloth. I speak not from emotion, but from authority. There's no longer a comment. This is beginning of a record and what follows is the role of truth. I now place the board in every office here in under federal fiduciary, I know is backed by public law 81-784, budget and accounting procedures act of 1950. Public law 83-591, internal revenue code of 1954, the law of nations. Public law 97-280, the Bible as the word of God's law, and Revenue Act of 1926 jurisdictional conversion point. And moving forward too, they tried to local powers identified. I don't normally would see any of the folks that actually been handling the back office matter, but being able to see Hugh Wynn, Sheriff Corner, Don Barnes, and also District Attorney Todd Spitzer, all in one place. It's kind of like a little, what he called, a way where you never get to meet the actors behind, but actually in public venue because they're doing so much of the work. But it's actually a really great game to me, Alden. And of course, all of you too as well. But what I wanted to mention is about the Align Item 29, which was a super advisor, Wagner. And I was such that where all the grants and the money that was trying trying to go in and diverging on to one spot trying to try to get more funding and such though, but that's not my place to stand. I just wanted to let you know as a while out of people are here so confused by what people don't even understand what is being shared with the public, but I just want to say they factor in these short matters. The Sacramento is the state of California, then Los Angeles is through the California Republic. There was 27 original counties here, but yet we have 58. Orange County is not one of them, it is Los Angeles. And so that's why a lot of folks don't even realize why Don Barnes has dual dual capacity as the sheriff in corner also as the clerk recorder himself too and People here has to understand one thing you may understand one thing, but you might not comprehend the other So today today I ask for the same courtesy man. Thank you. That's why That's why I formed 56 there. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. No further speakers. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Are there any questions, comments from the board on item 29? Moved and seconded. Any objection. Motion carries. We now go to our supplements. Starting with supplement 29A. Under C visor Wagner, approve allocation from third district discretionary funds to orange unified school district for every 15 minutes program at Villa Park High School. Make related findings under given code section 26227. Authorized can executive officer are designated to negotiate and enter into agreement as necessary and authorize author controller are designated to make related payments. We have no request to speak on S298. This is brought by supervisor Wagner. Thank you Mr. Breaker. Mr. Chairman and briefly this this is a program we are partnering. I think going to ask the question. Is there a question? I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. I'm going to ask the question. 9 29b please and advice chair Foley assessment peels board number two appoint Christopher Duncan Cyclamini to complete term meeting august 31st 2025. We have no request to speak on S29b to the rather Foley. Thank you It's been hard to fill our assessment appeals board seats because of the criteria that's required. Mr. Duncan of Sanclamini currently works as an attorney at Stein's show stack, show stack Pollock and O'Hara, LLP, prior to that he served over 16 years as a senior attorney at U.S. Customs and Border Protection, focusing on prosecuting corruption, corporate misconduct and serious crimes like child exploitation and drug trafficking. He has served on the San Clemente City Council and as mayor. Thank you. I'm grateful that he's been agreeable to fill the position of assessment appeals board and with that I moved the item to appoint Christunkin of San Clemente to to the assessment appeals board seat number two. Second. We did second an objection motion carries. Oh, sorry, abstention from supervisor Nguyen. Supplemental 29 C please. Under supervisor Wynn animal care committee outreach committee reappoint Dr. Leslie S. Mollavville Park for term ending March 31st, 2029. We have no requests to speak on S29C. Just rise it and win. Just move the item, Mr. Chairman. We'll do the second objection. Motion carries. Supplement 29D, please. I'm going to show you rise your win. This is what feels board number five. A point Lewis M. Guevara, Guevara, I intend to be each to complete terminus of 10th of June, 20 win. Assessment feels board number five. Point Lewis M. Guevara. Guevara. Hayington Beach. To complete termings of September 6, 2026. We have no reclusses. We can ask 29D. Sufizer and Win. Move for approval, Mr. Chairman. Second. Any objection? Seeing none. Motion carries. Suffolent. 29E, please. A, please. Under surprise, your wind acting has Orange County Housing Authority, Housing and Community Development Commission, a point, faculty, Booty, Garden Grove to complete term ending June 30th, 2025. We have no request as become S29E. Supervisor Wynn. Move Mr. Chairman. Moved in. Seconded. Seconded. Seconded. Seconded. Seconded. I'm sorry 29G. I don't always waste recycling. I approve amendment two to municipal solid waste importation agreement with Burntech Ways Industries Inc. and EDCO disposal corporation and authorized director or designated execute amendment. We have no request to speak on S29G. It's an all district item. Move the item. I mean, secondly, objection. Motion again, an abstention from supervisor and the item. The item. Second the objection. Again an abstention from supervisor Nguyen. So motion carries. Supplement 29 H please. I can't executive officer prove least agreement with N.I.M. City center property LLC for office base a two to two south harbor boule Anaheim for health care agency use authorized chief real estate officer designated to exercise option terms and execute lease agreement and subsequent documents or amendments under certain conditions and make SQL exemption findings under secret guidelines section 15301 we have no requested speak on S29H. So district two item. The move and seconded, any objection? Motion carries. Supplement 29, aye, please. Under supervisor Wagner approves sponsorship of various nonprofit entities from third district events funds. Our prohibition or revision of events to fiscal year 2024-25 county county events calendar make related findings under government code section 26227 and authorize auto-controller to make related payments. We have no request to speak on s 29 i. Sufizer Wagner move this use the district discretionary funds. Second. We, I believe, item 31, which is a public hearing. Out of the chair of the corner, public hearing to consider adopting resolution, approving fee increase for processing clearance letters, fingerprinting services, and conducting records check for federal office of personnel management and Department of Defense. Every sending resolutions care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health care and health a folie, go ahead. Well, I just had a question. Who do you want to ask? Could you share? Well, no, I just miss a Gary. Okay. When so much like the DA and clerk recorder item, what we're seeing here is that there's been a long delay in terms of updating the fee schedule. And I don't know, I guess I'm misused to the cities where we look at that every year and we make sure that it's right size to what the costs are. Is there a reason why we wait so long and are we going to start to have an approach where we right size the fees every year? Thank you, Vice Chair, for that question. We actually look at our fees every single year with our strategic financial plan. There's not always been support for fee increases, so the board support of this today would be greatly appreciated for full cost recovery because when we don't have cost recovery, then there's a general fund subsidy. So we have encouraged since the 2024 SFP identified a gap for us. We encourage departments to submit to all of their fee increases for board consideration that will help close that gap. Okay. Because it looks like we have an increase the fees in this department to match the cost since 1990 on this particular topic. Is that right? It's okay. But we look at these and maybe, I mean, what I see and we dealt with this with the Dana Point Harbor also is that by not addressing the costs, then eventually it's going to seem like it's an enormous increase because we don't have incremental increase that matches the cost recovery. And so I guess I'm gonna support this, but I'd like to see us maybe look at that so that we don't have such a long delay in between fee increases. And we just, we're not allowed to make money off of this. We just need to recover the costs that it takes to, for example, fingerprint and live scan or clearance letters, whatever the item is. So I mean, I guess this is more of a statement than a question. Seems like we wait too long. I agree with you. I thought it was more recently than 1990, maybe 2004, but one of the things that we have also looked at and asked departments in the board to consider is an annual increase if it's allowed for, as long as there's no restrictions like by statute when we are looking at fees, to be able to increase them on an annual basis up to CPI. No more than full cost recovery because as you indicated, we cannot recover more than our actual costs. Right. The 2004 is when there was a cost study prepared, but there wasn't an increase that accompanied that I can tell. So I think the last time maybe they did, I don't know, that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I think that's the last time I We are the need to bring those. There's been beaten up a little bit in the past so you may that's why you see that hesitation to bring them but we are that they need to bring them that's what we need to do and then it's ultimately it's a board policy decision it's up to the board. Thank you. All right I had a motion was there a second? Okay. I have a motion from Civilized Reweigner I don't have a second. I'll make the second then. Okay. I'll do the second. That's why I was asking second by me. So as a Sarmiento. Go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I'll be abstaining on this matter just because for some of the reasons stated, not because I'm opposed to cost recovery or adjustments. I think we just recently adjusted an item for both the district attorney and the clerk recorder and the delta was a $7 increase adjustment. And with that, we had a presentation, we had visits to the offices. And I think here it's a nearly 300% increase from $11 to $42 for a clearance letter. So I understand that we need to recover these costs, that we haven't revisited them in a while, but I think it's more procedurally we need to have better justification in advance so we can let the public know. These are incredibly important items, fingerprint, light scanning, records checks for departments, clearance letters. These are things that are vitally important to people who are actually going through this review process of records. So I'm simply going to be abstaining on this matter. Mr. Chair just in advance for item number 32. For those very reasons, I'll be abstaining on that item as well. Thank you. I would make a comment that whenever we don't have a fee that's sufficient to have the cost, whether or not the department agrees or not, it should be brought here always. We need to know that and if there's a statutory cap, which you know that as well, so perhaps there's curative legislation that would be in order. Okay, it's been moved and seconded for this item with supervisor Sarriento and supervisor Wynn, not voting. So I think the other three of us, we're a yes vote. We are. Okay, motion carries. So I want to item 33 please. 32. 32, sorry. Under Sheriff Corner, Public Hearing to consider reading an adoption of an ordinance of the County of Orange California adding section 15 to title 8 Division 1 regarding fee for local or rest record increasing fee for conducting local or rest record of you from $24 to $67 and super seating resolution 90-1494. So This is another public hearing. I'll open it as a public hearing, Madam Cook, to have any speakers. No, we do not. Then I will close the public hearing, bring back to the board. This is an all district item. I have a motion or comments as I get similar to the other fee increases. Second comments, abstentions. Same as the last item, survivors, San Mrenton and Nuenna are abstaining. Those of us who remain are we in favor? If so, item carries. Thank you. Item 34, please. I'm sorry. I just moving too faster. It was a committee resources acting as the Orange County Housing Authority public hearing to consider approving annual public housing agency plan for fiscal year 2024 25 and five year public housing agency plan for fiscal year 2025 through 29 and authorize executive director of Orange County Housing Authority or designate to execute related documents and submit plan to United States Department housing and urban development. So another public hearing I'm going to open up public hearing about a court to have any public speakers. Yes we do we have one request from Paul Hayek. Please call the speaker Mr. Hayek please come forward. On this item Orange County only gives you three days to vacate when it took me five to get an inspection before I could move into my new unit. So we need to have some grace period between when we, when we ask for that inspection and when we can move. Like I was going to ask for at least seven days lead to get an inspection from like an alarm. I was on that list, but they didn't have a time. And with me, I rented to move from the towers to where I'm at now. It took me two trucks and almost 500 bucks in expenses. Furthermore, the towers need a better inspection before they are put on the housing list. The towers does not meet HUD requirements. No, but it's because, Mr. Thank you. Then I will close the public hearing. We're going back to the board for consideration. Any comments? Any questions? Motion, please. In second, any abstentions on this one? All right, motion carries unanimously. Thank you. And we go on to 34. I'm gonna get executive office public hearing to consider adopting resolutions of necessity acquired by eminent domain easements for OCLIP segments O P N Q Coyote Creek Bikeway Project authorizing county council to retain outside eminent domain council BDG log group ink and initiate condemnation proceedings directing and authorizing utter controller to incumbent transfer compensation under certain conditions and making related findings. I approve amendment one to cooperative agreement with city of La Marotta for funding and construction of Coyote Creek Channel Class 1 by way OC loop segment P and authorize director of OC public works or does they need to execute amendment and future amendments under certain conditions. This item does require two thirds vote of the membership. the community. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Again, this is another public hearing. I'm going to open the public hearing. Do we have any speakers in the public? No, we do not. Close public hearing. Bring it back here. This is a district four item. other parts of the loop item. This is a important component to our O.C. Loop. It is expensive as we've done most of the other parts of the loop. The easier ones, the most expensive ones we've seen to come last. This is my players to move this item. Second, it takes the two-thirds vote. Any abstentions? Seeing none, motion carries unanimously. Okay, now we go to item 35, which was the truth hearing, and that has already been heard. So now I think we come to public comments is out our next item. Okay, what is the players of the board? We're well past the new now, or do you want to do public comments now or come back later Come back All right, we will now adjourn to a closed session now quickly you read the closed session items Supplemental closed session to the county council conference at legal counsel existing litigation Pursuing to a government closed section five for nine five six point nine D candy orange at all. We have no request to speak on the closed session item. All right, we will adjourn to closed session. Thank you all. We'll be back as soon as we can. The meeting of the County of Orange Board of Supervisors will begin shortly. If you would like to address the Board of Supervisors, please follow these steps. Complete a speaker request form. Deposit your completed form.