this is the warmth before the next cold front. So I hope you get your pipe wrapped for the next one. I think the next one is going to be a little tougher. All right, so this evening we're going to start off with a Pledge of Allegiance to the US flag led by Council member Wayne Carpenter. We'll follow that with the Texas Pledge led by library services director Kim Crowle, and then I will be leading the invocation. Please drive. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible liberty and justice for all.. I'm a Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to the Texas. One state, one in indivisible. Right, join me with a prayer. Here are what we just thank you for this new year. Thank you for the opportunity to come and gather together and consider the city's business. And as we think about this great nation and the peaceful exchange of power from one party to another, from one individual to another, from one group to another, we're reminded in the death of Jimmy Carter about how the influence of individuals that arise to that office, but usually start at very humble beginnings. And we just thank you for being us to be part of this process, to be amazed that with all of the discord and the infighting that we've seen many times that many of the ex-presidents can sit together and laugh and enjoy time together. And I just pray that we will be a community that stands together and continues to support each other. In times of crisis, we definitely want to lift up our neighbors to the West and California and all the first responders that have been having to fight those fires. And we just pray for all those little things and maybe never to be recovered. And again, regardless of our differences, we just pray for those that are hurting. And just be with us this evening and your name will be pray amen. Amen. All right we will call this meeting to order Tuesday, January 14 530 PM item two on the list is public comments citizens who wish to address the council on any item that is welcome to do so. I don't have a list of anyone that signed us. We don't have anyone who wishes to speak. They can. All right. So, being no public comments. We will move on to item number three. Item number three is recognition of the City Central Texas Council of Governments and its partnership with the City of Belton. Mr. Listy. Thank you very much. I'm not going to ask Jim to come up for a second. Just a few comments. I appreciate that very much. I'd like to ask Jim to come up for a second. Just to make a few comments. Appreciate that very much. I'd like to welcome Jim Reed, the Executive Director of the Central Texas Council of Governments to the Council meeting this evening. We're here tonight to highlight a very important partnership between the City of Belton and SITCOG. 20 years ago, in 2005, Belton City Council, Belton Public Property Finance Corporation chaired by by Bill Holmes and the sit-cock by Jim Reid, worked together to secure a permanent home for the cog in Belton in the O. Bill and Shopping Center in the form of Wal-Mart. Remember that meeting with Bill in the Wal-Mart, Jim and I, all three of us trying to figure out what we're going to do and trying to find a home for them and it all worked out. Located in Bell County, one of seven counties comprising the region's area, Citcox serve cities, counties, and special districts providing a variety of public services. These include planning, housing, transportation, workforce, GIS, mapping, not more one addressing, as well as hosting innumerable training and public meetings. Just a few examples of the direct benefits and services provided to Belt and over the years include Epping and Purveous areas leading to Belt and Initial Storm drainage plan, evaluation of applicants for the American Rescue Plan Act business grants, continuous planning for future needs for street sidewalks, trails, and transit, and the associated funding provided through KTEMPO. Administrating innumerable grants, federal EDA grants, agriculture, CDBG grants, among others. The COG purchased this building in 2005 with a 20-year live-or-based loan from PNC bank that matured in September of 2026. In March of 2023, SIT COG asked the city for some assistance as live-or-based loan for being phased out in June of 2023. Our first question was, what is a live-or-based loan and learned that it had something to do with an interbank loan rate in Belton, Texas? Of course. So we had to figure out how to work through all that. The Mike Rogers, our director, put together an MOU to address the situation for the city to finance the remaining loan balance at $390,000. Sit, colleague, to satisfy all the terms of the payoff and now owns this building 21 months earlier than it would have under the original loan. And certainly they pay off our loan earlier than required as well. If the fire department would allow us, we'd have a mortgage burning, but simply put, we just want to congratulate the sit-cog board, Jim Reid, Michael Irvin, and we want to commend the partnership which anchored Sit-Cog in Belton. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I remember that meeting 20 years ago. I think you were 31 and I was 21 at the time. The Sultan has always been our home base and 20 years ago we were going to wander in the wills and have potential other suitors to the east and the west. Some very smart people got together and said, and Sam needs to sit down and figure out how to keep the Coggin Belt and it's been our pleasure to keep our 68 Belt and Plays based employees here and to have them work and play and support the amazing growth the City of Belt and this has. So I congratulate you on everything great that's happening in it's our part our pleasure to be a partner of years and it's our pleasure to be a big part of Belton and we've been here 55 years and hope to be here a lot longer than I will be as the cogs so thank you for everything thank you for having faith in us thank you for the vision of this council and council's previous to you and we wish the city the best of luck and Here's to another 50 years. Thank you very much. Thank you for the vision of this Council and Council's previous to you. And we wish the city the best of luck and here's to another 50 years. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sam, can I just make a quick comment. Bill Holmes was so, so proud of the Belt and Public Finance Court and the ability to issue debt. And I remember he just had the red herring from that debt issue hanging on the back of the wall behind it. And so very, very proud. And he said, neat, neat. Belting is used in the past to get some stuff done. That's amazing. It's been 20 years. That's like a whole career, you know. And it seems like it wasn't that long ago, but must be getting old. Two bright y'all aren't old enough to remember the cog in the Newman building there, at which is now Nancy Boston's building. Do you remember that? Oh my God. Oh wow. Oh, worked in this crazy. Man, y'all sound it. Yeah. It goes for your heart. I am old. All right. It sounds. All right. All right. Moving along. Items 4 through 11 are consin agenda. These items can be acted by, enacted by a single motion or any item can be pulled for independent consideration by any council member. I'll read them and then we can make a motion or pull any items. Item four is adopting the minutes of the December Council meeting. Item five is appointing the quality of life subcommittee. Here we have six members that include Jonas Seismor, Lindsey Austin, Oscar, versus Sosa. Yeah, no, no, the next one is Baron Lucy loose loose loose. Okay. Yeah, Judy Owens and Terry Coventon some of those are easier for me to pronounce the others Item six is reappointing to the tacker tax increment reinvestment zone number one board of directors We will be reappointing Stephanie Obanian, Craig Pearson, and Barbara Boson. Item seven is adopting an ordinance amending chapter 15 article two division two section 15 dash two ordinance expanding the park's board from five members to seven members. We will appoint those members if this passes later. So just let me be on the lookout for nominations for the park's board. Item 8 is adopting or resolution clearing that the updated January 1st, 2025 population estimate for the city of Belton is 27,136. Item 9 is adopting an ordinance prescribing the classifications for police officer and firefighter positions and the number of positions in each classification. Item 10 is awarding contracts for mowing services. And item 11 is authorizing an extension to the BEDC development agreement with BCS Leasing LLC and Text Creek Reddy Mix through December 31st, 2025. We can enact all, we can approve these can pull any items. Mayor, if you would pull item number 10, consider awarding contract from own services. All right, we'll pull item 10. Any other items to pull? I approve items, or I recommend we approve items 4 through 9 and 11. As you presented, second. Second Second. Right, we have a motion in a second to move items four through eleven, sans ten. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? All right. Passes unanimously. Item ten, Mr. Grant. And really, I've read through it. I've looked at the bids. I've seen what's awarded. I think the did it. did a good job in awarding the lowest bid within each category. I just essence, I've seen what's awarded. I think the city did a good job in awarding the lowest bid within each category. I just, as I'm serving health and economic development corp, I realized how many times a dollar turns over in a community. And when I start to see Flucerville or Georgetown or other competitors coming into our area to maybe throw out a low bid or our credit garner some work. I just hope, I don't know that there is a way possible but I hope we would be sensitive to look at local operators who can provide those services first. And I've mentioned this to Matt in the past regarding engineering and other items that we put out for bed As much as we can I would just like to try to keep those dollars at home And no action needed I appreciate the big process. I just wanted to So with that I would actually unless there's any other You can go ahead and make the motion. Yeah, I'd go ahead ahead and move. We approve the BIS for a mowing service. I'll give you. If there is a way in the future to. Yep. We have a motion a second to award the contracts as presented by staff. I will just make the comment. I don't know how many local mom and pop lawn mowing services I realize we like to probably go with larger vendors because just this and all that stuff and not having to kind of babysit. But I don't know if we go directly and do a request from proposal for all locals. But I think to alleviate some of John's concerns as long as we're going for request for proposals to add. So because some of these places may not know we're out there looking for it. And I think if we could just be proactive that would be a benefit I think Discussion on this item All right all in favor for awarding the contracts as I have say aye Those opposed passes unanimous thank you All right Just glad we have enough rain to moat All right item 12 is hold a public hearing and consider a zoning from retail to retail with an SUP for package liquor store. On approximately 0.548 acres located at 2502 FM 439 for the No Mads convenience store. And thank you, Mr. Mayor, good evening everyone. For this application, this will be to convert an existing convenience store to a package store. This area was constructed back in 1975 in annex into the city in 78. It was recently rezoned to retail in July of last to allow for the current use of the property. Again, this property is surrounded by retail, agricultural, or the, and the property, and also the east of the property. Across the street, there is retail with an SGP for a car lot, and there's also a plan development office one in some county enclave areas as you can see with the white. As you can see, there's a developer, there's a current convenience store. Here is a look at how that site currently looks. With this package stored, this is one of several be reviewing. And this is after the election that happened and also the amendments to our city codes to allow for certain uses. And this one used requires an SEP to allow it in all of the zone industry. With this, again, there's a convenience store there, so they're allowed to offer a permit's consumption of alcoholic beverage. However, with the package store, a majority of the inventory will be for concealed container for off-premise consumption. So that's the difference between the convenience store and the package store. With that, this property is bordered again by mostly residential. The properties that are commercial are not developed at the moment. And of course, the applicant also owned the mobile home park to the east of the property. The current zoning, again, allows for the existing convenience store. The proposed hours falls in line with the state requirements for them to open at nine. I'm sorry, at 10 and close at 9 p.m. Stores are closed on Sundays, so that is typical for business activities. For the reason this and the use of our section 11, 16 cells of beverage in certain areas, requires that there be a 300-fence separation between places that sell alcoholic beverage and churches, public schools, public hospitals. There are no such facilities area for mitigation of impact. The property currently does not have any strived parking. So staff is recommended that the parking be strived to accommodate for the required parking spaces, which is 10 parking spaces, so that be delineated. There is some areas that are limited, especially where the bottle gas station pumps are, so the applicant is aware of this requirement. For the future land use map, this area is residential on our maps. The planning is only commissioned her this item at their meeting on December 17, and they recommend an approval for the zoning change to allow for this. Again, future development on cycle with the standards in the retail district. The use is allowed and the applicant must strike the parking law within 90 days following the approval of the amended. Zone in ordinance for future improvements, the final plan is required in the middle of civil plans and construction plans that meet our adopted standards also required. The applicant is here. Should you have any questions? And I'll be happy to answer any questions that you have as well. Right. Thank you. This being a public hearing, we will close the council consideration and open the door for anyone who wishes to speak in favor or against this item. Item 11. There being no one wanting to speak for or against this item will close the floor and reconvene the council to consider this and make a motion. I ask for a liquor hour stay for a convenience store that is open more than those hours. TABC looks at those regulations and they believe regularly enforce that. For that, again, the website that I was reading it says from 10 to 9 and there are certain days that it needs to be closed, including Sundays. There's also Christmas holiday, Thanksgiving holiday, and New Year's I believe that's also required. So TABC will handle that on the state level. So that just for liquor sales alone closed? Yes sir. So the store doesn't have to be closed just the liquor sales? Yes sir but because the majority of the inventory in this area is going to be for the package store then yes that will have to be closed but the gas station operation can still be the pumps will still be able to open for a couple of minutes. So I guess the question is, is there a physical divider between getting a twinkie and getting a jackdain? Oh, that is a question. Like is there a door that's locked that that- I'm not looking so good at points of that. Sir, could you come up, please say your name and- I live at a one oh two three oh animals to drive temple Texas For a liquor store no one under the age of 21 is allowed in between 10 and 9 and Sundays close of course anything can be sold in that store Between those hours as long as they follow the guidelines of everyone has to be 21 and over unless a company by parent of course. So the majority of the stuff that would be sold would be probably 90% of the liquor items and in 10%. We would still do the the twiggy and stuff for people but it would still fall under the guidelines of the KBC, which is a 10 to 9 Monday through Saturday. Oh, you'll be closed on Sunday? Yes, sir. Okay, end up. So folks, come on out there to get the asses and go in and to grab a twinkie or something that would be 21 to come in? Yeah, they would have to be 21 to come in. Wow. Yes, sir. to come in? Yeah, they would have to be 21 to come in. Okay. So it'll be completely closed on Sunday, sir. Okay. And holiday in the gas pumps are those shut down at nine as well. 9 p.m. Okay. Okay. so this basically is not going to be a convenient story. Memorial, the packet store period. It happens to sell gas and twinkies. Okay, and that's important. As far as sign ordinance, it would be so good to go. Same sign ordinance. Sign ordinance that everything else is correct. It would be subject to our current adopted standards for a size. Okay. Yeah. I've seen some package stores that get a little excessive with signs and both through very signage and stuff like that. So I would just want to be clear that I think to keep things looking nice and professional that we would adhere strictly to the sign ordinance for the city. I don't know if that requires any special action with SAP or anything. It sounds like it would automatically be subject to that. By the zoning district, my seat. Yep, okay. I mean, we approve that item number 12 is presented. For a second. We have a motion and a second to approve item number 12 as presented in any other comments. All in favor say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Passes unanimously. All right, item 13, lucky 13, hold a public hearing and consider a zoning change from plan development to plan development with an SUP for a package liquor store. Sounds familiar? Located at 160 West Loop 121, Sweet One for the proposed No Man's liquor store. Also sounds familiar. I don't need this application. I'm not sure. Jim, Miss Tina. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yes, sir. Again, Mr. Sharma is the applicant for this. This application only applies for a sweet 100 for that to be used as a liquor store. Again, the shopping center pleated in 2021. So what conforms to our requirements for the civil plans, parking exterior lighting, etc. there are some interior plans that are needed to complete out that interior space for that use. Is this same businesses in that area includes the glass phoenix and also action behavior center? Let's talk some more about that. So the location of the property is off of Interstate 35 and West Loop 121. just past the 711. Jason Zoning our retail, everything around here, PDX411, the PDX4 allows for permitted uses and retail stores are one of that permitted uses in there. Here is an area of that area, and again, this is in a strip mall, and this will only apply to the suite 100. Here is the next year elevation of that area. Again this is an a strip mall and this will only apply to the suite 100. Here is an exterior elevation of that building and property as you can see there is a jot through that is right at the exterior suite 100. I apologize that's the in anchor location over there. There is a jot through but not the circulate around the property to get to the back of the property to be able to access that. And compatibility, this is an assistant multi-tinent building. There's an assistant wage shop in action behavior center. That is an autism training therapy place. Also, again, this is a script, but also there are frequent changes between the tenants. I'm not sure if this is a daycare or just a therapy area, but there is not a protection for a 300-fence separation for this type of use that's currently there. The city does have that for public school hospitals in churches and dismisses separation requirements There are no mitigations necessary for this particular site because it conforms to all of our city requirements Here is that 300 foot buffer just to show you what falls and that the hotels across the street and then adjacent 711 for the feature laying used man. I was into the commercial center commercial core door so it was an appropriate use. The planning and zoning commission heard the item at their meeting on the 17th and recommended approval with a vote of five to two. The development of the site must conform with the plan development 11 district and civil plans and building plans are needed for the Again, improvements that they plan on doing in a feature and also for the interior improvements. The applicant is here. She did have additional questions for him, but I'll be happy to answer any questions that you guys. the improvements that they plan on doing in the future and also for the interior improvements. The applicant is here. Should you have additional questions for him, but I'll be happy asking the questions that you've got to have. All right. Thank you. The same way we will be having a public hearing. So we will close our discussion and open the floor for public hearing if anyone wishes to speak in favor or against this item. All right. All right, there being no we'll close the floor and reconvene the council. Questions, comments, or? I think there was a little discussion or maybe some confusion. Is there a playground or an outdoor area for the autistic center? Yes, sir. There is. It's in the parking lot. It's on the further side. I believe there was some fencing around that area. I apologize and take a picture of that but they went through a permitting process to make sure that that was allowed to use those parking spaces for the play area. That's a room to use it. Yes, sir. There were a lot of parking so it exceeds our requirements for parking. I want to say there was additional 20 extra spaces that were not required, so this was an added bonus for them to be able to use that area. And our zoning requires 300 foot separation from a liquor store and what? churcheses? Churches, public schools and a public hospital. I think while the letter of the law, this is not a public school, it is the school used by the public. And it's a unique school, but there's definitely education with children. And I think the, again, the letter of the law versus the intent I think this puts it closer than what the 300 depending on what you want to do the tenet right you can we can just label them tenants but I have a concern that we have a playground. I mean the intent, right, for selling liquor. Not within those areas are for a reason. I would say, again, I was thinking strictly public schooled by a public entity, K to 12. Daycares are usually in a shopping center. There isn't usually a separation requirements for that type of use, but again, this. I agree. But I mean, if you think about it, so it's school, churches, and what else? Is it just hospitals? So that include, like, the urgent care facilities, I sort of think we need to re-look that. I've got a pilot call. I just, I think it's, and this is, and the second one, vape stores currently unregulated next to alcohol sales. I just think that that creates an element prone to those who may abuse those instances. Anyway, that's a concern that I've heard some constituents say. And on-site consumption strictly prohibited. Correct? It is prohibited. Yes, yes. It's not a long. I know. And not to counter our day, but David's point, but they did move in under 300 feet from another T-ABC license door to door strung with the gas station. Who does have a beer and wine license? So they moved in within 300 feet. So is it a drop your child off for eight hours or after school study program or doing I'm not familiar with the facility in the program or what they would. I don't know the answer to that as well. From their website it looks like testing and counseling and things like that brawletism so I don't know that it's a drop off yeah parent goes to work pick them up I don't know but I don't know yeah I think it's more it's more focused counseling and therapy for terminal autism probably so you do drop off but it's probably a short term. Any other discussion or comments or emotion? You said to approve Agenda Adam 13 is presented. Second. We have a motion of second to approve Agenda Item 13. All those, you know, the discussion., you said drive through, but there's no window or anything. They cut it. Correct. This is a empty shell when it built it. So there wasn't any interior renovations, but yes, that opportunity is available. All right. Any other comments? All in labor say aye. Those opposed? No. No. So passes five to two. Similar to the PNZ. Right. Item 14. Hold a public hearing and consider a zoning change from retail to retail with an SUP for a package liquor store on approximately 0.66 acres located at 608 East Central Avenue for the Valero convenience store multi tenant building. There's more. Thank you Mr. Mayor Desjavus all over again. This is for where the healthy station must be in the Valero gas station off of Central Drive. Here's an area of that location and again only applied to Sweden of that plaza or that multi-tannet building. This area and surrounding areas are all zone retail. Here's a look at that area and the store will again go into the part that is on the western side of the building. Also next door to this is other businesses including restaurants, there's an auto service place and also creed side cigar. Hours of operations are consistent with the typical businesses over there. There was a previous drive through area but that has been closed and an applicant does not plan on open that or using that. The nearest goal to this is the Bell Tech High School and I'm sorry, Bell to New Tech High School and that's over 700 feet from that so it doesn't really meet the requirements for that separation. There are impacts, there's adequate parking, lighting, screening and it's not needed for this property. The, actually the future line use map shows this as a commercial retail corridor. The planning and zoning commission recommend an approval with a vote of 61 to recommend this to you guys. And again, the development must conform with the retail standards and future improvements must comply with all city ordinances. I'll be happy to answer any questions. I don't believe the applicant is here. Should you have any questions for him? All right. Again, this also having a public hearing will close the Council deliberations open the floor to see if anyone else would like to speak on the same type of item. Nobody rushed forward before. No one's rushing forward now. All right. No public comments on item four will close the floor. Reconveying the council, if you have any questions or comments on item 14 or a motion. I've got one coming, one question. The question is that building through the different phases has had doors or no doors. And so that left side I think is open to the center. I don't think that there's where the alcohol sales used to. It was all one open area so is there is it divided? I thought it was divided they made some tenant improvements in that. Okay one may turnments so you can enter the left suite and not walk bypass to the other one. Okay so their open and close would not impact the operation of those. Okay, that's I just wanted to make sure that and the other comment I have the same thing as last baby shot. I just think you know coming in, get gas, they get it and just it just promotes. Maybe it's my 1980s used to be dry, belt and that comes out on that kind of question. As you're aware the legislature has precluded any prohibition zoning regulations against vape shops. So we have no opportunity there. That may change in this session. We're hopeful perhaps to give us some more regulation there. Yeah, I just hope that we can have some level. So it gets paid alone, right? Title loans. Title loans. I just think that there are certain businesses like paid-day loans. There are just certain things that may have an appropriate place and some places not as appropriate. So like in South or City, why not? That there's there. Well, again, this is just the first couple of applications. Maybe we can look at future amendments. Maybe you guys want a separation requirement in the future. Maybe those are stuff that we should probably discuss in the future. Because so far the first three all appeared to be drive-through liquor stores. Instead of a, I don't know, more of a package store that you can go Christmas shopping and buy some actually only the one off of loop one 21 has that drive-thru the others don't have drive things like you said this one had that opportunity and if they choose but they chose not to I'm drive-thru is and come in get gas not many liquor stores in Belcaldi do come in get gas and go get- Understand. And we're two out of three. You can- It was the end. I'm not advocating anything, but you can address those issues with- Yeah, I think we need action. And the other thing is, in your package you'll see a drawing of suit A, suit B, suit C, C. If you're concerned about the many-, being able to access the liquor store, you can specifically say that it has to be a division between suit A and suit B and zoning the applies to suit A. Okay. If you have any desire to do that. Okay. And I believe we see also has those similar type of requirements, but I don't want to speak for them. But again, the zoning change that we have does apply only to that suite A. That's why the map only shows that little area. All right. I move we approve agenda item number 14 with also the note that separation of suite A and I have diagram, the two suites must be a wall and separate no door. And also let for us to address or review the draft through liquor store policy or activity availability. It's better to park and have to walk in and walk out then just draft through in the car personally. I agree but you can draft through a talk area and take a more to read ago so that's a little worse than a package store. It's all new for staff for for our citizens for the council at it. I'm sure they stay consistent. Yeah, I agree. We need to get it all new for staff, for our citizens, for the council. It's going to take a while for us to understand. It's going to be a little bit wild west. But we do have a motion currently standing that we approve item 14 with a separation of a second, approve item 14 with separation between the two suites.. John here your comments about the drive-through and not part of your motion. Yeah. Sorry. Any other comments? Never with the drive-through I think that's something we should and I think just overall be consistent really think about what's education and because those are pretty broad and we know that TASB T-A Yeah, TASB. TASC, it's been a long day. So TABC regulates it but they don't have any staff to enforce it. They really just, they don't. And so we have to help them out by making it as easy as possible to pain. It's what that is black and white. There are municipalities that do specifically to get traffic sales. I would recommend local residents or businesses who are in the range of that upcoming zoning chain liquor store approval, please speak up if you're concerned about it. Do we send notices out for this? Thanks. For poverty owners within 200 feet, we did not get any letters back of our opposition phone. So, okay, in the discussion for sure. So when it comes to something like this, typically we just go 200 feet. Should something like this be broader? Because the people that utilize the service are not the ones that live next to it, typically. It's people that, you know, and so citizens in River Place may have an opinion on what happens on Central, because it's kind of a public. Right, so we've talked about that. There is a state statute that says that if there are so many oppositions within that 200 feet, then that requires a majority vote. Invite another's, that's gonna be harder to calculate. Which one is actually within that 200 versus which one is outside? So. Well, I think for council, it's ultimately we wanna do the will of the people because they're the ones who voted for this. And so getting their input before the fact and sting their eye after the fact is preferableable. And I don't know that there's I don't know that there's an answer. This is just the way we've ever dealt with this. So do we not have to require we not post to use science and the facility and also public notice the newspaper we're still we're still doing that. So the public hearing for council for P&Z and for council is published in the newspaper.'s the public notification it should we do something on you know Newspapers are not rich and we do things like on our Facebook page to let people know that these things are happening That's a policy decision again. We have to be figure out what we're gonna do and be consistent No, very you know, you know, you have to be consider You have to be consider I wouldn't change the 200 political answer state. Yeah. But anything. If you can do it for this time, it's only proud of you. Yeah. Sounds like a future discussion. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Any other comments? All right. All in favor for item 14 with the restrictions of the separation between the suites say aye aye Those no, all right this one passed six one Also like planning is only about that Item 15 consider amendments to the downtown facade and prevent program I have missed more but she's walking off it looks like it's Bob Hopefully you're not too disappointed I'll do my best. We want to see it publicly. I appreciate it. Thank you. That's right, I talked to him afterwards. Very good. Anyway, thank you. That's right, I talked to you afterwards. Very good. Anyway, thank you. Or should I say, anyway, thank you. So the purpose of this item is to discuss, as you know, the proposed FIG amendments. Just a quick review of the history, the beautification committee recommended expand the FIG program back in 22 or 23 and then include it increasing the basic budget from 20 to 25, excuse me from 10 to 25. And they also recommended expanding the geography included in the area. And we'll talk about all these other kind of things shortly. Ultimately, the maximum FIG amount that we're proposing this evening will go up to $45,000 per project with the standard minimum match of 50%. And the geography proposed is the uptown and central downtown zones, not entirely, not the entire imagined-belton plan area. And I hope you're all familiar with that kind of thing. So this year, the budget was increased in the TURS budget from 50 to 150. And I'll just run with slides to help you get there to understand. Currently the policy is for the primary facade is 10,000 secondary facades up to 10 for a maximum of 20, which requires a $40,000 investment on the private sectors or proposed is up to 25 for the primary facade, secondary 20 all in red there for second third fourth whatever they are for a maximum grant proposed is up to 25 for the primary facade, the secondary 20 all in red there for second, third, fourth, whatever they are, for a maximum, grant of $45,000, which obviously require a $50,000, actually, a $90,000 investment on the private side. The other item that was added in there was the concept of rate of flexibility, and that is added after a conversation with this subcommittee to evaluate projects in light of the budget, that is created through the budgetary process and the overall impact to the community. In other words, that concept is there for the council to consider projects that may be larger than what you see on the screen right here to evaluate its impact on the community based on conditions that you yourself will set. Okay. So currently the geography where facade grants are awarded are in the downtown district that's the area in green there. And as I mentioned the recommendation by the beautification committee was to expand the area to the imagined built in areas. So let me give you that map as well. The blue line is the imagined built in plan area. The red hashed areas you can tell is the the Teres boundary. And as you can probably remember, the downtown, the central downtown area is pretty much the same as the downtown development area. So there's not much to talk about there. But the uptown area is different than the Teres boundary. So our suggestion is that that it's it it covers the majority of the uptown area. You can see that that areas here are outside of the Teres boundary and areas here outside. and then there she And then there's that or outside out area that are in the Teres area and up and outside the uptown area that are in the Teres area. So the areas that I just pointed at are still eligible for the FIG for instance. And then the areas outside the Teres area would not be eligible for the FIG grants. Okay, so a little bit of change there. But I think the overall intent is to expand into the whole area, but we're bringing this whole thing to you with a limited expansion just because we have to start. We felt like we had to start more in a conservative way, so we just pick two areas. As you know eligible buildings are on residential building but we're also suggestion that you include the live work building which are also included in the medical standards. These are mixed use buildings so the subcommittee agreed that they should be included on a list of eligible build buildings. Excuse me.. Contrast that to the types of businesses or some discussion. We suggested the first half of the list which dealt with bail bonds, the APE shop, CDBD shops and package stores. You know what a package store is now. And when we presented this to the subcommittee, they said, well, we agree that we should not be spending big money on these types of businesses. As a matter of fact, we suggest to include tattoo parlors, check cashing, payday loans, and I think you all mentioned some other use, not in this context, but maybe you think about that as well. They agreed with that also. So the recommendation at this point is to increase the maximum grant amount to 45,000 which consists of 25,000 for the primary facade, 10,000 per the secondary facades. The private investment is a minimum of 50%. The expanded geography and the live work buildings, and then the eligible and ineligible businesses on that list. So thank you very much. And those are recommendations primarily from the subcommittee to y'all. So I'm happy to answer any questions if you have any. All right. That's your question. Have a couple. Yeah. Are these reimbursement or are these upfront grants? These are very reversible. So you spend the money and they just emit your invoices and we pay you back. Language clarification, K and L, I know it says excluding such issues as and then has the three or four listed, then there's more listed in L. The package stores is not listed again. So I don't... Are you looking at the... What do you look at? It's just... It's over in my packet right here. Okay. It's the... It's the good... It's, very good. Yeah, yeah. So it's not listed again, so I don't... It will be. Okay, okay. Just, okay. Good catch. Thank you. I have a question on the types of businesses that are allowed for the facade improvement grants. Is that a subjective kind of decision that was made within the beautification committee? A kind of decision that was made within the beautification committee, a kind of criteria went around making those decisions? I think it was largely subjective. And in fact, I think it was, yeah, it was largely subjective. Y'all think otherwise, no, I think that's pretty much it. OK. Clarify your question. Maybe. I'm just, you know, I'm always one to be a little concerned about, you know, us picking and being picky and choosing and making a decision for one that we might not make for another when maybe those are subjective on our own part. So I'm just asking really for myself so that, you know, when we tell someone, no, what's this personal opinion or was what we ended at that? I'm not disagreeing at all. I mean, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just asking, what was that? Not supporting those type of businesses down town. No, I get that, but I think we better be prepared to say why. And one business may come in that may not be a problem to some of us, but it might be a problem to someone else. You get into some really gray water. So I was just asking a discussion went into some of these. I mean, I agree with all of those on there. But I think you can open yourself up to some challenges. Yeah, it's a consistency question that we talked about earlier. I was weighing with the chairman of the group. I'll punch it back to him after a second. But first, I think just a matter of desirability of uses, limited dollars, we have increased the dollars from $50 to $150 dollars. Those public funds for improvements at the façades in the downtown area. Very successful as you know. Yes. Whether we want to spend money on these kinds of uses is just a question. It's a judgment call for the community of how far to go. I don't know if there's been any request that's come forward yet that we have recommended disapproval of or not funding. It's to be ready. But certainly with this expansion. With the good watch. With the expansion in the dollar and the expansion in the boundary, perhaps some qualifications on what's eligible. I think again I just want us to be prepared with the why and not that we just don't like them. Great input from the economic development. So, Committee of the Med-Divis and I think the dollar amounts are significant. Very enticing. Multiple businesses have, or downtown or on corner, they're not just one facade, but front side in the back. And so, expanding that I think's going to be very beneficial to some sparks and revitalization downtown and the city with a little bit of the catalyst or opportunities to help those owners improve those buildings. Yeah I think it's a great program and I've seen it improve many areas in town so I'm really excited about that. But as we also grow and change and tonight looking at new businesses that we're considering, I think it's just always good to be active and thinking about why we do what we do. It's all. I think this and combine that with the murals program as well. There's a lot of subjective decisions coming to us in the future. But I think we've about to keep the integrity of downtown. And so I think a concern that I have, I think it's, well, number one, it's great that we're increasing the investment in this area because we've seen this is probably one of the levers that's helped impact downtown more than anything by being able to be a public private partnership to improve the beautification of the city has really improved the clientele without naming names. You just have better businesses that come in that are used by citizens on a regular basis. So I think it's been a really good thing. I think the first change of really kind of accepting a little bit more of an investment in these buildings and pretty much, maybe not 100%, but over 90% have been a type of building. They've been building that, buildings that share walls with other buildings to be masonry, typically on a sidewalk. So I mean mean you look at what we've done, it's almost all downtown buildings and they all share in the building. It's not a multi-tenant, it's multi-buildings like a multi-tenant. So you don't have one developer that does the whole thing. And so this really helps that type of development. And I think it's really good. I think if we expand, we're gonna get a wooden house that's gonna go from Joe's house to Joe's tax shop. And then we're gonna have a thought easement on something that may not be really accessible to the public. And it's helping Joe run his business out of the back that he normally did and I think increasing the values and increasing the boundaries without any really we're not telling them what type of buildings we will do facades mitzana which ones we won't we're saying the type of business you could live right live work building work building, right? Well, that's any building in town. So I really, I'm concerned about expanding the dollars and the boundaries at the same time. I think we should probably be very targeted on areas and let those be saturated and hey, once we're done in this area, let's move it to the other. Because I fear that if we expand it to those boundaries it's going to be peanut butter. We're not going to see it's not any concentrated investment it's just randomly avenue I right eight you know eight streets away from Main Street and nobody ever sees it we're downtown people see it all the time and so my concern is really on the concentrated investment. I think that picking, like, we'll just take, let's say central, let's do central. We'll have Sonic wants it to upgrade the Sonic store into another Sonic store. And we're going to help pay for Sonic to upgrade their store. That's really not the intent, because it's still going to look like a Sonic store, you know, or restaurant. I just I think that there's some things that we probably need to think about the types of buildings instead of the types of uses because that way it's a little more just because all it's a creative person say I'm going to create an LLC it's going to be building a LLC I'm going to apply for a Fosad easement grant. I'm gonna do it all. And then I'm gonna lease it to VAPE LLC and we're gonna put a VAPE shop. Well, they're not the one who got the VAPE, but it's the same people. And so I think that we create restrictions which create loopholes which we bypass. And so I think we should really think about the type of structures we want to improve on with public dollars. And public buildings downtown, I think definitely fit the bill. When we start going outside of that, I think it may be not the best use of public dollars. Just to be random building in a circle. You know, South like South Maine, six news, central downtown district. I think those are the kind of areas and these are just one council members opinion. But I think it's definitely the right direction, expanded. It's been good, let's expand it. I don't know that. I must have blacked out there in the expansion of that. I just don't recall that. But I do recall a lot of discussion about the improvements with the building, being a long-term investment. A lot of approval and oversight involved with that. And so I think it just worked out very, very well down town. It's been a few minutes far. We have had comments from business under not in the exact downtown that everything is going to that area. We still have the opportunity to approve it through somebody further out that fits within that zone. Maybe it's not an amendment, maybe it's just guidelines that we can work on to help pinpoint those because we don't want to appear to be discriminatory for just subjective reasons, but kind of work. Certainly with some discussion about whether this should apply to residential, like a single family home, a duplex, or a plumber. As opposed to typical business basically. The idea that much of the down ten areas were kind of moving beyond that while the downtown businesses were filled up. And so to provide the opportunity to a little bit expanded area. The current boundary, I'll go back to the current boundary, is yeah, it barely touches second avenue. Right. Doesn't go to six at all. And so again, Magic Belt and Belt was kind of encouraging to push some of those improvements a little bit farther out. But clearly there was going to be some residential. And so that question I don't think has been really addressed yet whether new residential construction or have a residential ought to be eligible for the façade grants. Again Again the intent was businesses in the downtown area that share a common façade right and so these are all connected and we're not all we're not done there I mean there's still work to be done I think when we start expanding outside of that, I think it's more of a business investment grant than it really is a facade easement because you don't, you, most of these businesses are not going to have a facade. It's going to be Napa parts, right? It's the whole building. And I think it's just, it's, we morph into something different. It's, I don't know, the answers. Just... I think there's some good questions, and I've got a couple other questions. One, to kind of follow up on that, can we add a condition to a facade improvement grant that for a property one, two, three, North Main Street, if you get a facade improvement grant, then you've got to voluntarily de-dress shrink your product from operating as a vape shop, CBD, package store, or whatever. That way we don't have LLCA, Least to LLCB. That sounds logical to me. I don't know about the legal parameters. Or at least for a certain number of years. And maybe deep restriction in right, but conditioning of COY. Yeah. Yeah. A CO for 10 years or something. Yeah, somebody that can combine. Yeah, I've got an enforcement. What was the CEO? Another question would be about how are non-tax paying businesses, churches, schools, whatever eligible to receive facade improving grants from public tax dollars. They only did with liberty. Was it liberty? Chamber of the city? But the church, the liberty church was wide. The church was wide as well. OK. Prohibition right now. And there's an investment on the still an investment on that nonprofit side. There's still that requirement. Yeah, that's what I'm feeling is I think we're getting we may get into it's been pretty clearly defined and now we're kind of maybe getting muddy. If the intent of tonight was really to up the amounts, because I know we kind of have one kind of hanging in the balance, is it possible for us tonight just to approve the amounts and put the rest in the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? In the current area? dollar amount until we can for the workshop dinner or something. Yeah. I second that motion. Right. We have a motion and a second to amend the downtown facade of easement grant to include the language regarding to the amounts and the investments increase, but to not address the expanded geography or ineligible businesses at this time. That's the motion and a second. Any other comments or questions? I would just say I like that because it'll allow us to engage with the process to ensure that whatever we do is most efficient and the right thing right up front and I think that's being proactive versus reactive and unintended consequences of something when we're not completely sure. And maybe this allows some of those businesses downtown that haven't finished to maybe if they can make it one before somebody else snags the allotted that's not the other thing. Well, the downtown area is also in an opportunity zone. So you get opportunities out of this. It encourages investment in that area. Yeah. We'll try to track interest outside the car. I think it's fair because we may want to just open it up for application, not by application outside of this area. That's a future meeting, maybe. No limitation on the uses. No expanded boundary. My motion was to just change the dollar amounts and the added items one through Five I think we're the one five is current. So I mean yeah, one through five Right motion a second any other comments questions all in favor say aye Those opposed passes unanimously Thank you guys and also the committees and commissions for doing all the work that they've done to get us there, or moving in that direction. So it's one step forward. Last item, item 16, hold the public hearing and consider adopting an ordinance, amending the belt and zoning ordinance related to the proposed, imagined belt and standard. Mr. Bantill. Very much. So as you mentioned, this item is only gendered to the public hearing on the standards and to consider approving them as well. So as you know, the standards were recommended in the Imagine Belt and Plan back in 22. The standards are intended to help implement the vision of the plan. I don't see Travis here this evening. He's sitting with me here, but anyway. As a result of the plan, we hired Covey and as you know Travis is one of the key players. Anyway, they were very critical in, I just want to say that they were critical partnering creating standards. So anyway, the plan created a new vision for this area in the downtown area. And it created several goals, but especially a guide for the investment in the core of the Belt and Community and the creation of the development standards to implement the plans. It's a very important part of it. So as you can see, the geography is identified there on the map. I won't do that. You're probably very familiar with it right now. The vision is a fundamental shift in how Belt and Percieve is the future of the plan area. It's a distinct paradigm shift from Washbridge now is a suburban, low rise, low density, and arguably less efficient land use to an urban, higher density, more walkable, probably more efficient land use. And to do this by right, which is a key point. As opposed to processing these newer higher density developments through the rezoning process, which inevitably will be a rezoning process in every case. So as we go through this presentation, I want to highlight three key or major elements to the standards. One is that we have five new zones. New health. or major elements to the standards. One is that we have five new zones, new housing types, which I know you've all seen about, and then we'll talk about the land use matrix. So the first key element is the creation of five new zones. The important part there is is that the current zoning in this area, there's about 15 different kinds. We're reducing that down to five. And so you can see on the map on the screen, you can see the neighborhood which is the light yellow. The transition is the darker yellow. The main street area is the purple. The light purple, the uptown is the lighter purple. The central business, which we've talked about the uptown and the downtown area here briefly. And so those are the five new zones that will take place if everything goes through. The other key element is the introduction of new housing types. Now a lot of you, you are very familiar with some new words that we have in this area most notably live work and neighborhood Apartments cottage lots courtyard housing and multiplex housing. So those are new housing types that will be by right The third key element is the land use matrix. This is I'm sure very familiar to you. You've seen this before in other zoning ordinances. The tool assigns line uses the very zone, so in this category, this is one of two, I've got the other half on the next slide just because I want you to be able to see it. And after the review, so you can see on top of the zoning districts or the neighborhood transition, Main Street, Uptown, Central, that cetera, et cetera. And then the uses are on the left side of the screen. And so you can see P is permitted, P C, permitted with conditions. These are articulated in itself. And then where it's blank, it's not permitted. And then you also see some red in some red P, some red SUVs, that kind of thing. Those are as a result of the discussions with the planning commission, and they wanted those things added in there. So those changes have been included in that. This is the second half of it. As you can see, one small change down there towards the bottom, they recommended SUVs. Actually, I believe that's a staff recommendation on auto sales in the Main Street area. So this key, this is a key document that'll govern where things go and it's in the beginning of the book so you can tell this is the first thing you're going to have to stumble across as you go through the process. So that's the third key thing. I want to talk briefly about the public process. There are many, many opportunities. There's a lot of stuff on the slide, but it's really intended to be a visual graphics, so you can see that there's a lot of conversations. Many of you all have been part of those conversations. And we've gone through various presentations. We have open houses. We had public hearings with the Planning Commission. We had a workshop with the Planning Commission. I'll touch on that briefly. And the commissioners recommendation in favor of the standards back in mid-December. Public comment period was open from the very beginning of the S through October, I believe it was. And so there's plenty of opportunities to provide input on the. And in summary, I would say in terms of public input, we generally had very favorable comments. Went to the open houses, maybe all experience the same thing. This is a good idea. Can you tweak this? Can you do that? This is good. We appreciate the effort. We did have one, one, a negative comment from a gentleman lived on Shines Street, and I know he's about the public hearing. And Biden encouraged him to come to the public hearing. So, Yoke, here is his objections personally, but maybe he had something else in it. So, the bottom line here is lots of public input. It wasn't just a one-and-done deal. We took a lot of time to make sure that people heard about this. And Matt even took the time to go to the Lions Club and tell them all about it. And which was a lot of fun. He suffered through it. He suffered through it. Since you can't scrape the chairs, you got to bang those plates up there. It's just interesting. They're struggling. They're struggling. Good, good, good, anyway. So that's an example of trying to find every opportunity to make sure this stuff gets out in front of people. So the works up on December 2nd to illustrate the impact for a lack of a better word. Of the standards in some areas that they were just just after the public hearing that they had on the, we took an issue that illustrated the parking ratios and we took, I believe seven or eight, our development scenarios that we ran through, we just took some properties and said, well, what if this happened on these properties and what went on these cases? And I believe that information is in your packet and you have it had the opportunity to look at that, I hope. So basically, the outcome of the workshop was, you know, great thanks for helping us understand the impact of the standards, kind of alleviated some of the concerns that they had coming into the public hearing and and going through their thinkings as on the standards. It kind of rolled down to the ability the last two bullet points on their slide ability to provide exceptions and variances. We've talked a lot about the flexibility of the standards and so they they wanted to, okay, what does that really mean? And so we took an effort to clarify that. And so we also provided some clarity for administering the development types that appear not permitted in the matrix. You remember the blanks in the matrix, the land use matrix is permitted. But the commission or several members of the commission said, we don't want that to just close the door that it's done. We want to have some commitment that there's a way to welcome those things into the city if they're good for the town. So we did that. And so in your document, this is a summary of what we came up. We wanted the issues that was, that the question's about was the parking location. Remember, this is a fundamental shift in kind of a paradigm about how we view the development in the downtown areas. So parking has anticipated to be behind the front building wall. And so the conversation was, well, how do we, you know, how can we be flexible in that regard? So we said, okay, well, here's a suggestion for you. If less than 25% of that is not behind the building, the front building wall, then the staff could approve that, that variance. skip down to the council level if it's 25% or more then you would have to go through a recommendation by the commission as well as approval by the City Council. And so we also talked about that kind of thing in terms of modification to the density standards for new and unlisted uses. The use of blocks and subdivisions. So we have that division between the staff approval, which is much more restricted than what the council can do. And then the other alternative is the variance as, but we wanted to make sure that the council kind of stays in the driver seat. So what the variances can, we didn't want to take it away from the terms of a policy issue. We wanted to be very, very specific in that. So we picked just greater than the 15% less that is more on a staff level. Greater than that specifically in lot with depth, setback, height, and parking spaces. Not where they're located, parking spaces. And that excludes things like signage and location of parking and landscaping and things like that. So a very particular, in this instance, what goes to the zoning board of adjustment. As you know, their final say so. And we didn't want them inadvertently setting policy without the council being involved with it. So the reaction to what we had here, the ability to provide exceptions and variances, very acceptable to the commission, the clarity for administrating development types, not permitted in the matrix. We had conversations about having a rezoning process. If somebody wanted to do something there that was not permitted in the deal, in the matrix, excuse me, then that would be basically the be zoning case. And so we would, we suggested a PD because you want more data, more information rather than a square on a map that says they want to do this and you don't know what it's about. That was very acceptable to the, they were happy with that outcome and so subsequently they forwarded a favorable recommendation to the council. Happy to bring that information to you. Next steps, I got the age-old thing here. I got two major steps and I got three listed. That's great. Okay. So step one is ask the council to adopt the standards in the map. And as we've been talking about step two, I guess I'll call that step two A. How about that? Two major steps. Is the rezoning, the first rezoning would take place down zone and then the downtown zone. It brings the stark the conformity of the standards into the area. And then as as 2025 progresses, as to have done the two, the first two, then we'll start with the other zones. We'll have this to go through. And so if you all agree with that and the standards, we go through the process there. Just to remember about the map the map those are the two areas the uptown zone and the Central downtown zone we've talked a lot about those so the geography pretty familiar to you So our recommendation as I mentioned to you the planning zoning Commission recommended approval of the imagined belt standards And so my recommendation this evening is Let me step back and you can open the public hearing and then after the public hearing I recommend that you adopt the imagined upstanders. So thank you. Okay, so to be clear back on those different zones we're looking at the blue and the pink area to start with. Yes sir. Those two. And the hashed areas are not included? Those, well, they are in some cases. As you can see, let me point them out to you. I'm not clear. That's why I just want to make sure we had all the hash ones you see. So the hashed areas are historic districts. Okay. So they'll stay there around the dark red outline. So if it's hashed inside the dark red, it is included. If it's outside the dark red, it's not included this. Yes, sir. Okay. Exactly. So again, the recommendation is to adopt the invasion of all the standards for the entire area. What's shown here are the recommended steps to begin the rezoning process for two of its okay for the central downtown in the uptown area. So we're not gonna tackle all those at one time. But the Imagine Bells and Standards universally for the entire area outlined all the different colors on the map. So all the colors are adopted, but we're just doing the zoning changes on those two. We'll be coming back to you, sending notices on the property owners for those two areas. Okay. Right, we do have a public hearing based on the fact that it's the same public that's been here the whole time. I'm not optimistic that we'll have people rushing up to the microphone. But we will close. Also, deliberations will open the floor to hear any public comments on the Imagine Belt and Standards and nice and nice and nice and nice and nice valid concern is when we start doing a lot of things By right we don't have the same due process we used to have they don't have to go to planning and zoning This is necessarily spent they've got an opportunity to address the council. So when Betty turns into Betty's bakery and she used to be a next door neighbor, but then all of a sudden you've got a neon signout front, and she now is operating a bakery out of her house, because she lives in a particular area that allows for mixed use of businesses and that. There's not a notice. And I think that we need to think about notifying people of different uses. I think just being good neighbors. You would hope that they would notify, but I know that if I woke up one day, it's like, what are they doing over there? And I'm our worst next year. Yeah, yeah, that's okay. You know, everybody's got to have a clean car. Especially if you live on Loop 1-21, you can keep on clean. But I just, I think that that is concern there. Now, of course, it was on a current zoning that people did get notifications and he wasn't within that area to be concerned about the multifamily when it was probably justified. But I do think that there's got to be some middle-town on due process when a neighborhood starts to change. There's always neighborhoods in transition are tense situations for the community. But those are usually good things long-term. They're just painful to grow through. And I just, I think that, I don't know, I don't have an answer again identifying a problem. It will be detailed as we go through the rezoning of these two areas. And so the specific application to you as a property owner and the area around it will be exposed a little bit more specifically than it was with this general plan and the standards. So I think there will be that opportunity. And the flip side it would also be nice to know that if you've got a large house that could be subdivided and now operate a bed and breakfast without having to change zoning that I can start doing that. Oh, I didn't know I could do that. I think that somehow notifying people that these are the new rights in the district that you live for those that don't read a newspaper or come to council meetings for pundits. So I think that just I think communication is going to be key in neighborhoods with transition. I would say and I've always been on the train your own David and say I'm going to tell you this. It's to be very difficult for people but the zoning has been changed by the passage of time. That's what's really happened and especially these first two districts but it's going to be some people that you know get things next door that are going to shock them but you know it, it is what it is. And the problem with, well, I mean, they can find out what's going to happen, but it's going to happen. And that's that in the right inter-pollip. There's not going to be a decision to be made. It's going to, what, what you do adopting what you're being asked to adopt. That's going to do it. And don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Like I say, I think the zoning, the zoning's been changed by time and growth. I just think about rainy street in Austin as a perfect, it was a nice, clear, kind of like Hyde Park and they had houses and it's nice. And then they all ended up turning into bars and restaurants and then people hated it as they transitioned but once they were bars and restaurants people loved that area because it was really quaint and you have these little houses and now it's just high rises. I mean it's the process of change that's hard. Yeah and we just want to do it right. I think that there are some protections built into the plan and the like in the neighborhood zones, can't have a make-ree. It's the residential cottage townhome. I think there were a few things, but it's got to be residential in nature. I think where you get through some of the questions that will come up is in the transition zones and some of that. And maybe we need to look at exactly which properties are neighborhood versus transition. I mean, if you want to have a closer look at that, I think that that's fine. But I think that if the people that we're talking about protecting really, the conversation every time comes down, somebody who lives here and has lived here for 20 years and didn't realize anybody, anything was changing. And now I've got a vape shop next door or a bakery. And I just don't think that's going to happen. Well, it can't happen in the neighborhood zones correctly. It can't happen in the neighborhood zone. And there are neighborhoods in transition zones. And it's limited. It's not the whole thing. Yeah, that's fair. It's limited. Yeah. Neither comments? There's been lots of outreach to these individuals and families and businesses we may have had. There's been a lot of opportunity for us to hear thoughts from those. And I get it. They may not have paid a 10-day-L or higher all the ways we all the different ways we notified, but that's a different issue. But I mean, I think you've done, I think the city's done a great job in bringing forth a community driven program and project to the community for even more back you know I think that the due diligence has been done. Yeah, did we send postcards or letters or something? About 1100 I believe believe was in number. Or it's been done well. All the property owners. Every property. Plus all the newspaper. They had a lot of newspaper coverage. And people won't reduce me much. But to the extent we try to hit media sources. I know Paul did a lot of outreach as well. So again, Bob touched on the paradigm shift of trying to change the exhibit being flexible for change in existing neighborhoods. That will be an issue that will face as we go through this and it'll just be a matter of trying to deal with it. Did it go too far? Did it not go far enough? And there'll be options to address that as well. The reality is neighborhoods are changing and we're just adopting a process to make it facilitate that. We're not making the changes. We're allowing those changes to happen organically. So, I think it's been, it's a lot of discussion, a lot of work, again, commend the staff and everyone who's been involved. Those here on Council that are served on some of the subcommittees appreciate all that's been done. Absolutely. And Joe Shepard and BEDC have helped fund. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, Cynthia. Joe Shepard brought the idea after he had seen what Kaby had done in Brasius County. And so that was the geneticist of the idea. And I think staff has done a great job of Harvard. And I think it's really an exciting program. As John just said, those things have changed over time without anything we've done. It's much like Lake Road, you know, 20 years ago. Very much a residential area and as the city's grown and expanded, that's changed. And downtown is changing and the uptown is changing. I think this is a great program. I would speak of motion that we adopt the program. Second. We have motion and a second to adopt the ordinance amending the Belton zoning ordinance related to the proposed imagined Belton standards. Any other comments before we vote? We say aye. Aye. Those opposed? Passes unanimously. We are adjourned. Thank you. 654.