Good afternoon and thank you for bearing with us. We're ready to call our meeting to order. This is the October 7th meeting of the MTPO. Is there a motion for approval of the agenda? I move so moved. I'll second. Okay. I would like- I have some changes that I'd like to make. One. I'd like to add one A, which would be the improvement program. Improvement program? Yes. There you go. Transportation improvement program. And that would come on, that would be one A. And then two A and two B would be item consent items 3 and 4. Okay. One A is this. Correct. Then 2A would be items CA3 and CA4. The City of Gainesville would like to discuss those. You're pulling the month of consent. I'm pulling the month of consentainesville would like to discuss those. You're pulling those off. I'm pulling them off of consent and they will become items 2A and item 2B. I'm chair. With those, yeah, somebody else, yeah. And chair, I wasn't going to pull consent item CA5, but if I could just get a question answered. Yes. If you go to page 81 and read the response from DOT, it says the response indicates that the MTPO would need to prioritize 83rd Street capacity project as part of the list of priority projects is there. When and how would we do that? Madam Chair, the board normally reviews and adopts your list of party projects each year in the spring. Last year was in April and we're hoping to move that up to your February meeting so in a few months. Okay. So I would just ask Madam Chair that that be put on somebody's calendar so they know because that was important that we discussed it and that's on our February meeting. Thank you. All right. And then put that on the agenda for the next chair. And the Madam Chair, if I might, I did have a question about another consent item before we pass the agenda. And that is amended budget for fiscal year 2324. I don't know what's amended because it the backup doesn't Okay 25 yes has attached amended budget but I am confused about what's been amended It doesn't have any a strike throughs or anything so What was amended that we're adopting a different budget from before. Madam chair. Yes, please. In response to Mr. Prizy's question. I'm busy trying very hard to pay the parking downstairs. I've not been able to do it. Go ahead. Commissioner Prizy has a question about consent item two, the amended budget for fiscal year 2324. This is actually take each year this time. This reflects the estimated closing actual expenditures revenues for the year. Okay. Is there a, do we have a detailed budget, like an actual expenditures budget of what goes under contractual services? I mean, that's this budget. I mean, this is like, there's like no information here other than, and so I guess I'm just wondering like what, what did we amend? Like what expenditures were not included that are now included or what revenues were earned that we didn't have before. I know there was that million that were getting, but I don't think that's reflected here. No, that's reflected in your fiscal 2425. That's 2425. Yes. So again, the metropolitan translation planning organization is a reimbursement agency. The only discretionary fund you have are the $9,400, $600 a county contributes the $14,400 from the city. All their funds are reimbursement from the Florida Department of Transportation through federal highway funds. And then the Florida Transportation and Vanish Commission for the Transportation and Vanish Program. So these numbers here reflect the actual estimated expenses through September 30th and the fiscal year, the preliminary numbers. Okay, but I guess I was looking for actual like expenditures. Like is there, I guess I'll just ask that. It's fine, I'm fine to pass this for now, for now since it's an amended budget for the stuff that's already been expended, but if we could please get the detailed expenditures for 2324 so that we can have a sense of what falls under the contractual expenses, that would be helpful. Thank you. Revide it, yes. Thank you. All right. Commissioner Eastman. Is your light? Oh, no. I was just going to make those two changes in there, but you already know. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Duncan Walker. Okay. Thank you. All right. So if there are no other changes, is there a motion to adopt with the amendments as presented? If the person who made the motion to adopt the agenda could include that, did you? I know I said I'm so moved, so I'm happy to. Oh, you're it. Absolutely. So I move that we adopt the agenda with the modifications. Thank you. Thank you. Second. Thank you. All right. It was a motion and a second is to further discussion. You're none all in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye. It was opposed like sign the motion passed unanimously. All right, Mr. Coons. Madam Chair, the next item is item room number 1A. The item you just added, which is a transportation improvement program amendment. This is information we receive from the Florida Department Transportation after the agenda and meeting packets for distributed last Monday. The requesting that you amend your transportation improvement program to add two projects in the current fiscal year 2425. The first is on State Road 222, which is Northwest 39th Avenue at State Road 25, which is US 441 or 13th Street. The proposing to make some modification improvements at that location. The second project is on Interstate 75 related to intelligent transportation system. These are the cameras that the department has on the interstate to monitor traffic for safety and traffic control. So the departments are requesting these two projects be added the Northwest 39 13th Street project is a $547,000 project and the information. Telled the information system in the interstate is $920,000 project. But within fiscal year 2425. Madam Chair, I move that we amend the transportation improvement program for fiscal year's 2425 to 2829 to add the noted projects. Second. Motion and second. Chair, discussion? So a question? 29 to add the noted projects. Second. Motion and second. Just your discussion. So question. I just, what is the modification improvement at the intersection of 39th and state road 441? What is the actual modification there doing? You may have noticed recently the department has put up some temporary flexible post, flexible ballards, near the intersection to prohibit left turns close to the intersection. So understanding this will be permanent median, raised median to prevent left turns for safety and traffic flow through the intersection. We get harder to go to Alby. Thank you. Okay. Further questions? Hearing none, then. Okay, thank you. Okay further questions Hearing none then all them Is this a roll call? Yes, Madam Chair. This does require a roll call. Thank you. Commissioner Alfred Yeah, Mr. Chestnut. All right, Mr. Cornell. Right, Mr. Duncan Walker. Hi Mr. Eastman. Hi. Mr. Prisya. Aye. Mayor Ward. Aye. Commissioner Wheeler. Aye. And Chair Chess and more Chess and I. Aye. The motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Now we go to 2A. Mr. Pinsum. And Chair, the next item is related to the five year update of your long range transportation plan by Federal Service Transportation Act. You're required to update the long range plan every five years. The current plan is the planning horizon of 2045, which was adopted in August of 2020. You'll need to complete your update of the plan to arise in a 2050 by next August of 2025. So one of the first steps in that process is to review the required vision statement principles and strategies. You can find those on page 116 of your packet as well as these slides. Staff and citizen advisor committee are recommending that you re-adopt the existing principles Strategies and vision statement for the long range plan. The federal requirements for planning factors and state emphasis areas have not changed over the past five years. So these principles and strategies will meet federal and state requirements. I'll briefly go over there are seven principles. I'll briefly go over those. The vision statement is a transportation system that is safe and efficient, serves the mobility needs of people and freight and fosters economic prosperity while minimizing transportation-related fuel consumption and air pollution. First principal supports economic vitality, and you can see the related strategies. A principal tool to increase safety and security for motorized and non-motorized users. A principal three addresses to increase accessibility mobility for people and freight. Principal four is to protect and enhance the environment for energy conservation, improve quality of life, and promote consistency between transportation improvements and state and local plan growth and economic development patterns. Principle 5 enhances the integration and connectivity of the transportation system across between modes for people and freight. Principle 6 is for remote efficient system management and operation. Principle 7 emphasizes the preservation of the existing transportation system in place at this time. Okay. The matter of the trip, I have to answer any questions about the vision, the principles, and any of the related strategies. But again, staff recommendation, citizen advisory committee are recommending to maintain the current vision statement, principles, and strategies since the federal state emphasis areas and focus areas have not changed. And note that the TechMadvisor Committee and bicycle pedestrian advisory board did not achieve a quorum last week for their meetings. Is your hand up? Yes, does it? Okay, thank you, Commissioner Alfred. Would it be possible to include under principle number five that to include a strategy to encourage large trucks to utilize roads that were designed for the weight and size of the trucks because we have something that the county's been working on is to encourage truck traffic and on roads that are appropriate for truck traffic. We have roads that are too narrow for semi truck to pass the school bus, for instance. It seems like it would be principal six, yeah. Our principal six. The efficient system management. And Madam Chair, this board probably about 20 or so years ago, maybe it didn't longer, did adopt a truck route for the Metapont area. And the Florida Department Transportation has posted signs that large trucks are to ground the perimeter of the urban area and only if they're making a local delivery, will they be on local city or county roads with inside the Metapont area. But now that we're county wide, there's also the issue of large trucks on narrow county roads that may not have sufficient sub-base to support the way to the vehicles. Which is happening a lot. That's why I'm wondering, like, strategy 6.1, it says that disperses traffic without the local transmission. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying to you, so maybe it's that 6.1 that you want to edit or yeah, I'm not sure where the best place is. I guess I'm asking for you know, a professional recommendation from the folks that put this together. I just think that's up into the tick consider. And then, um, and I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it. But my second question was when I was sitting on the Claireinghouse Committee for the Regional Transportation for the uh we talked about very large developments that are going in in Levy County for instance and so the when the transportation impacts of those developments were analyzed, they only went 15 miles out. And we all know if there's thousands of houses being built in Levy County that many of those people are probably commuting to Elatua County for jobs. And I'm trying to figure out a way that we can look at the impacts of outside development on our traffic? Madam Chair, also part of the long range plan is updating the Transfacient Network and running a transportation model, which you've engaged in consultant to do that. And one of the factors that is part of that model is internal external trips coming from surrounding counties, both commuting into Elatrio County, and also those trips that leave the county during a day for work in surrounding counties. And I appreciate that, but as- The impact is, there's numbers are counter for. But when we look at new developments that are going in in other places that from a regional planning point of view, looking at that impact on surrounding counties where the job centers are located, is a thousand new houses in Levy County is gonna probably be 900 more cars in allotria county. That's my point. And so if we're planning ahead, if we're planning ahead, if we're planning ahead, then knowing that we are going to have that impact on a development, it's going to be taking place over the next five years is, you know, I think appropriate to a conversation more than what the actual count is today or tomorrow. That's my point. I'm just trying to figure out if there's a way that we could include that type of planning and traffic, you know, information in our process. Would that go into principle six? Madam Chair, the other part of the model is to project population employment by traffic zones as well as projecting external internal trips over the next 25 years. So, there is an effort to anticipate and identify those and that's why the plan is updated every five years. Right. Right. So, would you add this to principal one, what she's asking. Thank you. One point three. That's permission. As the. As the. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Madam Chair, the action board could take is to adopt the existing vision statement, principles and strategies with the two suggested issues that Commissioner Alfred has addressed and staff will work with it to put in the appropriate strategy. Very good. I just have a quick question. also take care of places in our smaller municipalities where the traffic now is going directly through the town. These trucks particularly high springs. The road system is so that those trucks are going right through that small narrow part of town. Are we talking some kind of bypass or some way that we can avoid those places? I don't know that there's another one. I think Newberry's dealing with theirs by narrowing their roads, but high springs road as is narrow as it can get. Yeah, the project for on 726 through Newberry is two one-way pairs. And the department did evaluate, and with community input, decided not to construct a bypass. I was one of the options for a new very But they chose to go the one-way pairs through downtown But that there there's not been any conversations. I'm aware of the department for bypass truck bypass for high springs I know to fort white that traffic coming in from work for white is compounding the Traffic issues as well. So, okay, thank you. I don't, you know, just if there's something that we can do to make sure that, you know, because I know we tried to do that. We tried to calm the traffic in Waldo too, and the community was not in favor. We have one vision and the community has another vision. I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I'm sure I our bicycle and pedestrian master planning effort dovetail into this vision document. And if we need to reference those documents in this vision to say that like under enhanced integration of the connectivity of the system or under the principle for enhanced environment, if we need to reference that we want to, we want this plan to support the strategies as identified in our vision zero and bicycle and pedestrian master plans. So I guess is that something we could include in this? Great, thank you. Which strategy suggesting that? I guess it's a little bit of five and four. So I mean I would be open to where staff and you all think it's the best, most appropriate place to make those references. It seems that safety, so the vision zero may be actually under principle two. And then I think our bicycle pedestrian master plan might be mentioned under either principle four or five or both. I have one more question. Thank you. Thank you. You have that one? Yes. Commissioner Wheeler. Just got one more question. You know, we have our, where our bus stops are often we don't have covered areas there would we have that in this would that be something that we could do With this in terms of improving or enhancing bus service by putting in covered stops Madam chair haze's Gomez transportation director for city gains wells here and the cityville's currently undertaking a project to address some of the bus stops as far as handicap accessibility signage We don't have to specifically say that in here Okay Haysas Gomez with the City Transportation Department. Yeah, we currently do a 100 bus stop improvements and we're designing the rest of the ADA complying. Wonderful. So we will be on the next two years, you're going to be, you see a lot of construction on the bus stops. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. Very good Ready Mary. I'm ready then I move that we approve the draft vision principles and strategies for the year 2050 Long-Wage Transportation Plan update with the changes discussed by the board members. Second. Motion in a second is there further discussion. All right, hearing none all in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye. Those opposed like sign the motion passes. Madam Chair, the next item is item two A and B. They're currently consent item three and four. These are two of the three complete street studies that the board approved back in the spring when you adopted the unified planning work program for the next two years. In year one, they're scheduled on the Fleet Street study for State Road 24, Archer Road and as well as one for State Road 25, 13th Street. This will be the next step in the process before you today is the Scope of Services and Authorization to advertise to solicit request for qualifications from consulting firms to conduct these studies, come back with a recommendation to engage a consultant later this year But I think the city transportation want to make comments on both of those Yep the city staff was recommending for consideration is that perhaps this items be deferred until we decide the board decides what to do with the transitioning of the staff if we want to just giving other priorities that we have the Long-range Transportation Plan being advanced right now and then there's just some questions about staff capacity to handle all of these studies. We'd like to defer it until we make a determination on our staffing structure. Commissioner's comments. Move that we defer both items. Is there a second? Second. Motion and a second to defer items 2A and 2B from the consent agenda. All in favor, indicate by saying aye. Aye. It was opposed like so in the motion passes. All in favor? Indicate by saying aye. Aye. Those opposed? Like so on the motion passes. Thank you. Now we move to item three. Madam Chair, item three is just a report on the action the board took at the last meeting to establish a steering committee for transitioning staffing services for the Metropolitan Planning Organization at that meeting. You established a steering committee made up of two county commissioners, two city commissioners, and the chair of the Med-to-Pond Transportation Planning Organization. And it's our understanding that the county commission has appointed two county commissioners, and the city commission has appointed two city commissioners and the mayor to serve in the steering committee. So that's. Can we hear who those people are? Commissioner Cornell and then the mayor. Yeah, so as I understood the motion which is on. In our minutes which we approved which is on page 11. It was two city commissioners, two county commissioners, and then the chair of the empty PO. I know we appointed Commissioner Alfred and Commissioner Prisya. I know that Commissioner Chesson is a chair, but in December it's going to be the vice chair, presumably, which would be Commissioner Wheeler. And so that was my question. I read the backup. So you all have two members? Mr. Chestnut deferred. Ask not to be on the committee. Right. Which means you just have to not come to one meeting perhaps before December. But the two city commissioners are, who are the two city commissioners? So the, Madam Chair. The roundabout process we took knowing that Commissioner Chestnut as Chair was not interested in being on the committee, we had two commissioners and myself willing to serve and that was me, Commissioner Eastman and Commissioner Saco. Commissioner Saco advised, of course, she's only going to be on the commission through the end of the year and was willing to serve. If it needs to be just two, it'll be from the city. It'll be me and Commissioner Eastman. OK, so I mean, to me, it seems like we've got our steering committee, Alfred Prisya, Eastman, Ward, and the sitting chair, which will become presumably Commissioner Wheeler in December. So the only other question I had was, I got some information about the general planning consultants and perhaps DOT offering to help us with that. Is that something that we need to give direction to today that we maybe get some options as far as general planning consultants that will help us. I understand that our current executive director is willing to help with the transition. Thank you for that words. God, I appreciate that. But is there some options of a general planning consultant that we could be put before us sooner rather than later? Is that something that the either DOT or our staff can speak to? Which would then presumably be vetted by the steering committee and then brought to the sport. Alasama's transportation planning manager for the county. So is my understanding that if we wanted to bring general planning consultant services on that the MTPO could lean on existing FDOT on calls, I believe that the staff services agreement that dictates what work is currently under the purview of the regional planning council would need to be terminated before we would pivot to that or it would need to be at the very least amended because you know the staff and the work of the MTPO is presently assigned to the RPC. So it would be my hopes that at the December meeting, we can have the steering committee bring forth some recommendations and maybe even some suggestions. Otherwise, we're looking at taking any action until end of next year. So am I the only one that's feeling this way? Because if so, then we'll just leave it to the steering committee to deal with. But I think we need to give some direction to give the steering committee to deal with, but I think we need to give some direction to give the steering committee some, let's bring back some options for us because I read a memo that showed a couple of options that we could do with regards to either the long range plan staying with the regional planning council or not. And I'd like to have a general planning consultant giving us their thoughts before we make that decision. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll listen to my colleagues. Yeah, I, yeah, there was a whole lot that I saw. I think you guys got a similar email to what we received in terms of when exactly we could engage that general planning consultant I mean if the idea is that we have to amend the contract before doing that that creates a totally different wrinkle that would kind of rely on I don't I'd kind of like to hear from the Department of Transportation what what actually was what was provided and what did you guys say you'd be willing to do so that we can get that figured on the committee And then I honestly think the MTPO should be meeting probably more than you know every other month But we can have that conversation after good after nail K. A Brown Transportation man transportation planning manager with DOT We we did hear from the city in the county and we are we are willing to offer services We're willing to offer services if you all are willing to offer services. We are willing to offer services if you all are willing to sever the contract currently that you have or endure amend the contract, but we're not willing to move forward with that until that is discussed because that would be essentially double dipping efforts, already having to exist in contract. We are under contract with the GPC. I know my having the GPC come here to present on what they could possibly provide services to you all. However, it just needs to be discussed as to what the RPC would be doing up until when. And then because those services are at a cost, and we need to know how much for a per assignment. So that's all I really have in terms of how we can all could better help you all through the transition, but we are here to support you all through that transition the best we can. All right, then what is the will of the commission? Okay, okay, the server comment on that one. Oh, no, no, I saw other hands up. I just wanted to get that background. It seems like that, I mean, at some point we have to have kind of everything in front of us to figure out exactly. I mean, it's the process of either amending the existing agreement, terminating it with the 60 day clause, figuring out how we're going to go with a general consultant. That could leave a bit of a chasm between here and there. I don't know, we'd have to, I saw also, creating an MOU with county staff in order to help with that transition. All that stuff is um you know we want to make sure that there is no drop of any of the required stuff that we have to do between now and then. And so it seems like something that the subcommittee would work on but you're right we have to give some kind of direction between that like to someone to some staff member to bring that back to us so that we can make a determination and then bring that back to the MTPO board. If I could make a suggestion. Okay, I've got Commissioner Carnell, Prisya, then Alfred. Okay. I'll wait. Okay. Yeah, I'm heavy to wait. Okay. I just wanted to suggest that perhaps the county attorney could look at the contract with the Regional Planning Council and make the appropriate amendments still allows to move forward to have the meetings that we need to have in order to make the plan we need to make. Is that something that could happen? Madam Chair, I'm up here. Join us. There's one right here. Here's one. Right here. That's it next week. I don't bite. I'm late. Madam Chair. Yeah. But when you light it, you were able to make it. You take it right here. Yeah. We'll start over the whole of the chapter. Madam Chair, we can certainly work with county staff and city staff to See what needs to be amended going forward and bring that back to you guys Okay, so if you bring it back then that would be what two months Jan December can we do it? Can we is there a way around that? Yes There's a way around that there, is there a way around that? Yes. There's a way around that. There has to be a way around that. Madam Chair, may I? Yes. So I think, I mean where I am is I think we've decided we're moving forward with a separate party. So I think we need to go ahead and sever the agreement, the existing agreement, and ask the regional planning council Scott to work with the steering committee on what they can do under the new structure. So there's a 60 day termination clause. We can either do that today or we can ask that we do that some period of time. We've heard from DOT they're ready to step forward. And so I'm ready to go to move the severed the agreement under the 60 days notice and have the steering committee and DOT work on a transition, have Scott tell that steering committee and DOT what he's willing to do and bring back a plan for us at the next meeting. If that's too soon, then I'm happy to make a motion to do it in 90 days or 120 days. But I think we made a decision at the last meeting. So there's no sense in continuing to try to decide what to do. I'm ready to move to sever the agreement if that's the will of this board. All right, position of Chris here. Yeah, I mean, I guess that in essence is what I was going to say. I think we made the decision that we were moving forward with an independent board that was going to, you know, an independent operating organization that was going to have its own staff supported by the County for Administrative Purposes. And I, so I guess I want to get to that point as quickly as we can because I know that it's a lot to ask, you know, for our staff to kind of be balancing all of these things in the interim. So I too am ready to do that. And I think that I would like, if it all possible, for that general planning consultant to be able to come to the steering committee meeting to give us a sense of what skill sets they have, what they can bring to the table, and what support they can provide during this transition. So that as one of the steering committee people I'll feel confident bringing back good recommendations to this board at our next meeting. So whatever we need to do to amend the contract or terminate the contract in the interim so that we can have those conversations and DOT can step into that support role is important to me as one of the steering committee members. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Madam Chair. So I concur with the commissioners who have said it's important if the steering committee is going to have a going to be of use to the larger body, we need clear direction and it's going to be really hard to have that body, we need clear direction and it's going to be really hard to have that clear direction if we have the potential of F-DOT being helpful to us, but don't have clear direction to them or anyone else to actually do that. If we're in limbo, then we may as well not have the steering committee. And I think it is important, we've indicated that what direction we want to move in, we just need to empower the steering committee to come back with actual recommendations. So, just someone have a motion to that effect. To several, I think can make the motion, did he? I'm happy to make the motion if it's 60 days enough time, or should we move that we several of the contract with 120 days notice and empower the steering committee to bring back a transition plan with recommendations of a new GPD within 60 days. I mean I don't know Allison you tell me. I don't want to solely be the responsible part to just say it's a 60 days. I did want to say one important piece of information that came to light since you last met was that the MTPO can lean on the FDOT's general planning consultant without an say one important piece of information that came to light since you last met was that the MTPO can lean on the FDOT's general planning consultant without an interlocal agreement without a lot of bureaucracy around basically termination of the current staff services agreement as my understanding is sufficient to allow them to procure services from their existing on call. So that helps a lot in terms of being able to. All right. I would admit that the MTPO severed the exercise to 60-day termination notice with the regional planning council to terminate the agreement and ask the steering committee to bring back recommendations at the next meeting, working with DOT and the regional planning council. It's a motion on a second. Is there a discussion? Did you want to comment on that? Okay. Yeah, I mean, it would be my hopes that we don't have any break that DOT and the planning council, if we need to extend that 60 days, another 30 days or 60 days, after you all meet, you can kind of bring back what the plan is. I would think that we would have one or two or three general planning consultants to evaluate so that we can decide who kind of fits with us during this transition time while we're searching for a new executive director. Because I think isn't that a selection of a company or is it a year smiling because you actually know the answer and I don't know the question or what is it going for? It's a large number. We have a general planning consultant that would help us do this effort and it is until you all find your executive director because they may want to lead the MTPO in a different direction. Oh, I see. Yes. So it's really just a placeholder, and they help us with all of the data that we need to bring to the MTP. Because they are also our consultant as well. So it wouldn't be a random consultant. They are already, are familiar with the terrain of Gainesville so they are actually a great candidate to help you all do this transition as well. Oh, you just cleared up a lot of what I was saying. Okay, that makes, I think that gives you all a lot of information. That person then could come to the Syrian Committee meeting. If you would like. Yeah, I would like. I'm not on the committee but I think they would all like. Okay, sounds great. I would hope that we could maybe have that meeting before the next meeting. Madam Chair, as part of that decision. Are you one of the city attorney? Yes, Madam Chair, Corbin Hanson, Assistant County Attorney. If you could authorize the chair to take whatever action is necessary, whether it be a letter or resolution to the Regional Planning Council to effectuate that termination notice. I have that to the motion. Also just on a timeline thing. I do think we need to give direction that we want to have a meeting. I'd imagine some time in October and then it 60 days, if we're having this in December, that would put us at December fifth or sixth. So that means if we're having a meeting in December, we will not be able to take action as an MTPO board before that happens. So we're going to have to have an November meeting and minimum. And I would say that just going forward, we probably need to have monthly meetings for the MTPO until we feel comfortable going back to a bi-monthly schedule just until we're through with this whole process. That's the only other thing I would mention is that if you all would like to direct county staff to just get some meetings on the book monthly through this transition period that would probably be helpful because we don't otherwise report as staff. Part three would be at that. Okay. And that would be meetings of both the MTPO and the meetings of this steering committee. Correct? Sure. Okay. Yeah. Whatever we need. All right. I think we have a clear motion. All in favor. Indicate by saying aye. Aye. Aye. I was supposed to like son, the motion passes. Thank you. I'm not sure what the protocol is for setting the meeting of the steering committee is who helps us schedule that, I guess, is my question. Are the FOIA or whoever? Okay. Sure. We'll make sure that there are clerk staff then. If I have no objections from the City Commissioners present, we'll make sure that our clerk staff supports that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Mr. Colons. Madam Chair, the next item on the agenda is item four. Now it's your next meeting is currently scheduled for December 2nd at 5 p.m. Presumably we'll get a notice about a meeting before then. If I want to see your committee meets. So we'll just hold that until we receive further notice and that's the that's the organization meetings got correct where we You like the news chair advice chair Where the board would like new officers for calendar year 25 and our current vice chair is Commissioner Wheeler and the current Is it mr. Willets and the current is it? Mr. Willits is the current secretary, Trigger. Commissioner Willits. Secretary, okay so, Commissioner, I think the way this has historically worked is the vice chair becomes a chair, the city commissioner becomes a vice chair and so we actually need a county commissioner as the secretary. Yeah, okay, so it's kind of like you. We're electing the chair three years ahead of time. Got it. So one of us county commissioners, Chuck shaking his head. He's making sure he comes all the meetings. He knows how that works. That'd be the chair about three times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It probably should be. That's because you've been. That's right. Yeah. Well, you will be here. Yeah. That's how he got me. That's right. Okay. Is there any further business? Yes. Manager, I have five or comments. And the first is the report from Florida Department Transportation. Do they have a couple items they want to bring up the date on. Ms. Brown's here. Okay. Oh, yes. Madam Chair, if you'll just give me one second. We have a presentation. You need to copy to the computer real quick. All right Just real quick. I think we all know on the immerk. Thank you the other one. Thank you. I'd him backwards Santa Fe College UF Ledge County public schools. I think we know this all closed Wednesday, Thursday. All three, so all announced, so official and that's just, that's just to start. It got announced at three o'clock. Wednesday, Thursday. Wednesday, Thursday. Mr. Mayor, thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you Commissioner Book. Yes, the City of Gainesville is in the process of announcing that we will be closed Wednesday, Thursday as well. For city offices, which means we will not have our general policy committee meeting on Thursday. It's important to note that and I see that online the electoral county has already made the closing and announcement as well. Okay, all right, that's ma'am. Thank you. Okay, I'm Brown again, the Charm Station Plan Manager with District 2, FDOT. So I'm gonna be presenting on a few of the topics that you are requested last meeting. Requested updates on University of State Row 45 follow up. Your SU funders projects, list of priority projects, cycle as well as State Row 26. So here is one of the lighting projects on University Ave from University Ave, from State Route 26A, known as Southwest Second Avenue to Southwest 13th Street. What I've heard back from the PMs is that the consultant acquisition is underway with the currently scheduled let day for fiscal year 28. The race crosswalk project was finally accepted this past August. All FDOT debris should have been removed by now, so we're researching who equipment is on site. The next project on University of the I have is a resurfacing project at the limits here at the bottom. Rest University of the I have from Southwest 38 Street to Gale Lemurand Drive. NTP was provided to the Comprehensive Engineering Services, as well as this past August, with the currently scheduled let date at the school year of 2027. The project is mainly military surface with no complete street design at this time. This next project is a lighting project as selected intersections from State Road, State Road 24 from Museum Road to Northwest 29th Road. The project was intended to be a part of a previous construction push button contract that has since been severed and so it's not extended. The current plan is to retrofit the lighting at the intersections as part of a future resurfacing project when pavement conditions warrant. This next project is an intersection improvement project. US$441 known as Southwest 13th Street as state road 24th archer. This project is part of another project for a traffic signal update that's under currently PDNN, planning and design and environmental. Funding has been a convert and from my understanding that it has been turned over to the city. Here is a project on West University F from Northwest 31st, 34th Street to southeast 31st Street, excuse me. This project you all know is in your current tip. This project, Debbie, with the city has presented on. Currently have a lap agreement, a lap agreement that has been since executed and funds will be on a reimbursable basis. And this is one of your SU-funded projects. The next project, two projects, these projects have since been merged. These are also one, two of the SU-funded projects. These projects are located at US$441, as they wrote an archer as well as, excuse me, for the different fonts. Doesn't appear like that on my computer. But as well, this project is the other have is on Museum Road. Both projects, again, have since been merged to that they can let together, meaning they can be constructed at the same time. So now we have moved construction under dash three. You'll see that update in the tentative. And the dash six will remain with PD&E since those funds have been authorized. Here is the update for the State Row 45 project, US-441 from Libby County line to state row 24 This project is under contract with Anderson and Columbia in the Construction is about little over 50% has been completed and should be finished by the end of the year the work entails some ADA Improvements inside walk-ups And this is also a resurfacing project. Glad to hear. So here is your SU funding table matrix. At the very bottom of the table, you'll see the three projects that currently are programming your tip. You'll see the project type and the funded year. And this will be annually updated. And as you can see on the top of this list is the State Road 26 project that does not have a project number since it is a candidate project at this time. And if you all approved today, it will be your tentative program as a program project and it will receive a number. The important thing to also remember here for this table at the very bottom, it will correspond with the LOPP. All of your projects need to remain on your list of priority projects to be constructed using your SU funded to be constructed. Once it has let say in 2026, then for instance, the intersection improvement project for as Southwest Archero and the bike path project, bike path trail project constructed together, removed to the top of the list. That will let us all know that the SU funding has completed two projects. The goal is over the next five to 10 years, we can see over the last five to 10 years, we can see over the last five to 10 years what projects have been funded with SU, keeping tabs on where we all are spending the money and in addition to how much those projects are costing. Do you guys have any questions about this table? Yes. Questions, Commissioner Cornel and Prisia. Thank you you Madam Chair So thank you for providing this so the bikepad project the project that we talked about the last meeting which was Restriping and giving the public back there right away. That's at the top. Yes, and it's listed, but it's but there's no details yet So if we wanted to reprioritize that we would do that that when, did you say? That would be, it was prioritized as your number one project in your LOPP. And there's no prioritization that goes here on this table. It's just in any order, you know, it's at the top for whatever reason. But it's just a blank, no, let it us notice a candidate project. It doesn't have an assigned number and it can be withdrawn at any time. And have you had a chance to speak with the district office about the Illuminated Commission of Cornell? I'm sorry. I'll get their commission of Cornell. I'm sorry. It's OK. Continue. Oh, commission. It's OK. My only question was you mentioned the project on SR 26 from 34th Street to 31st Street the repaving project You said currently there is no plans to do complete street planning on that and I'm just wondering go ahead This one here no back back This is Miller resurface project. Yeah, this one doesn't have any Yes, that's what I've heard back from the PM due to funding. Everything is being placed exactly back as it was. Okay. This is the exact quarter where we've been pushing and pushing and pushing for pedestrian and bicycle upgrades to this and complete streets for this. We just have made major improvements just past Gail Lumberan Drive, but the goal is that from 34th Street all the way east that we would be making those complete streets, is there any way to have that reconsidered or for us to consider up here additional funding we might have to put into the project so that complete streets could be considered? How does being that a construction let days at 2027, there still could be some time. Again, it has to be placed in a list of priority projects this prioritized to use some of your SU funding to contribute to some of those pedestrian improvements that you're speaking of. Because I thought that we already put University Avenue from 34th Street all the way east to like past, past Com Park, past all of that on our list of priority projects for all the pedestrian improvements that we were hoping to do across that road. Did we not? I thought we did. I thought we did. I guess there's so many different lists. It gets kind of confusing to me. I'm like, I look at one list and I think it's on a list, it's on the long range list and it's on this list. I don't know which list it's on, but I know that this board prioritized that corridor as one of the prime corridors that we all see as a corridor that's constantly across our entire city until 34th Street really seeing a lot of bike and pedestrian and now actually passed that because the 38th Street one is in 43rd is also part of it too. I see Scott here trying to check to see if that project is on your LOPP. Okay thanks. Okay. I have a question. Would this would this project be an appropriate legislative ask given the safety issues that we've had on university avenue? I took a question. I know that the university was having some conversations in collaboration with the city at one point with regards to some of the improvements. Do we, Linda, do you know if that's gone anywhere? I'm not really sure that we've taken that to the next step. I think that if that was the case, I think we would need to get UF on board. Like I think that in order for that to be a successful legislative ask, we would need the UF lobbyist and the county and the city, like all of us together going to say this is a really core project. I mean, I know lots of parents have called to UT. I know lots of community members have pushed for this. I know we have a lot of community will for this project. But I don't, so yes. There's a lot of right-of-right issues from- Right, exactly. A lot of right-of-right issues on this road prior to- It goes right by the women's center. Yeah. And then it goes by the former president's house. I mean, there's, I think this is what we have to probably talk about. Yeah, and I mean, it may not be able to be 100% complete streets but if there's if they're at least being pushed to consider a pedestrian and bicycle upgrades for safety. Yeah I'm along that corridor. Yeah if you really think about where the students live which I guess is 20 seconds. This is law school and the president's house. Right. That's where we really need the complete streets farther down. I think less so. Right. It gets a little less. Like as you get further and further away and closer and closer to 34th Street, you need less. So an update, Scott and Debbie found that this project is in your LOPP listed as priority number four from West 34th Street to North East 31st Street. And it includes two lane divided with center turn lanes with pedestrian crossing, race median study, as well as upgrade street lighting, white and sidewalks, and protected bike lanes, additional landscaping, and raised medians, and narrow general purpose lanes. So those are some of the design requests in your description, so hopefully, so hopefully that would be considered during this project, too. Well, let me get to my next slide and hopefully, from my understanding, there's been some discussions and different parties, so it looks like we need to get together to fine-tune that. And that will be at the upcoming LPP cycle. Madam Chair, if you want. Before I move on. Okay. If I'm right. Thank cycle. Madam Chair. But before I move on, okay. If I'm on. Mayor. Thank you, Madam Chair. So there are many, many city priorities included in that length of, say, Roch 26. You just went through there. We've had a lot of discussion at the city commission about this. We are very interested in looking at this differently. And we've had a lot of conversations with F. Dodden. They're more to come. We need to have further conversations with the University of Florida. But things have changed up at the University of Florida over the last few months. And we need a little bit of a reset on that. So I don't want to commit us to anything, you know, saying, oh, this is fine right now. We're gonna need to have further discussions about this and much more intentionally. I understand that we can't get everything done that we would like to get done in the immediate future, but we need to have deeper conversations about what's possible and where it's possible. It's also true that some of university avenue that is considered in this and contemplated in all of this is changing as we speak. I mean, the Blunt Center downtown Santa Fe College on University Avenue is going to be a much more intensive use and there'll be a whole lot more density of students walking around there than was originally considered in this. As Santa Fe College thinks about different buildings that may be in use adjacent to University Avenue, that's going to create some different pressures than what we expected a couple of years ago when we first started these conversations. So we do need to have deeper conversations, including FDOT and including the University of Florida, including Santa Fe College as we do this and still keep our eye on, say, Route 26 East of here headed out toward 31st in addition to downtown, in addition to the Blunt Center area and everything in front of the University of Florida. So I, and to be perfectly honest with you, I'm thinking about the storm right now more than I am thinking about this. So I don't wanna make deep commitments right now. I don't know if you can get out of the knot. That's not bad. I'm like, committed to make deep commitments right now. I don't know if you need to get out of the knot. That's not right. I don't know, I don't like to commit us to just a resurfacing project. Yes, exactly. There's an opportunity to have those different conversations. Maybe it's where the workshop would just off during one of these meetings, specifically on that corridor. I would love to do that. I know that our city staff has information they can bring forward about conversations that have been had. And I think it's important to have those. I will tell you, unquestionably, the community is not going to be pleased if all we do is military service. And we've done a lot already. So I want to give credit where it's due. There's a lot more to be done. But I think it would be a great idea to workshop this at one of these meetings. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner Duncan Walker. Thank you very much, Madam Chair. To the mayor's point, I wanted to ask this question, and perhaps Mr. Mayor, you may be able to speak to this as well, or maybe some of the staff can speak to it. At a certain point, the city began engaging in its UF study. And so I don't really know where we are in that process. I know we haven't heard anything recently, but I do know that it's been very much in the works on the city side to come up with a plan for how we could see improvements being made to that. Is there anybody here at this? I'm curious as to how that study is going to dovetail with what we're talking about here today. Have we in any way started putting the two together, what are we dealing with there? Because it sounds like we've got a study, but we also have what's happening here. Are the two parties, entities, people who are involved on both sides working together at all? Madam Chair, if I might. The short answer is yes and the short answer is no. There's a lot more to be done as we move forward and I know that they're shifting standards all around. Thank you. That would be nice to be in the transportation department. So the original intent of the prevention in the University Avenue and 13th Street corridor studies. So for the University Avenue in particular, envisioned the whole extent that a K-amension from 34th on the west side to 31st on the east side, and the piece between 34th and 22nd. And because the state was resurfacing, it was removed from the overall study because we were in agreement with FDOT and we were working with them to add mid-block crossings and at a minimum at some location. So we've been working along those lines. So it's somewhat was surprised to see that those were removed. The piece that we've been working on, the remainder of the segment from 22nd to 31st and we've made presentations here. That has been advancing and we're focusing on the piece from Waldo Road to 31st. We have a public workshop scheduled for the 15th at G Tech to collect public input. And I believe FDOT may have already sent notifications about that meeting. And we're planning another meeting, public meeting, for the overall project, including the segments on 13th Street. Hopefully at the Blunt Center, Center for the 28th of this month, but that's still to be confirmed. Thank you very much for that. I'm gonna be really interested in hearing what the community's feedback on all of that is. Thank you. Thank you. So I think it was going to be very helpful before I speak on state road 26 project to explain the list of priority projects cycle. So it begins with, and it's very imperative to understand, because if the deadline is missed for these projects to be programmed, then we will have to wait an additional year or it can postpone construction for two years or more. So all the phases, all the phases before construction can be pushed back and ultimately construction. I know we won at least let projects, at least once every year based on the LOPP. So the tentative work program is released October and November. And MPO County and the city staff are reviewing the tentative to see which projects from the LOPP that was previously adopted that same year has been included. The next is the work program public hearing will typically happen between October and December depending on the year. Then the development of the LOPP will begin based off of the tentative between December and February. In a perfect world, Scott just mentioned, your list of priority projects will be adopted February through March. Legislature at the same time is reviewing our work program for adoption in their session that can happen between January through March. At the same time, the district now you all have adopted your LOPP, you provide your LOPP to us and the district will meet with the MPL the county the city staff to review concept plans that are developed by us based on your descriptions that you listen in your LOPP you ask to remove parking you accept add bike lanes you ask for widening sidewalks all of those are drawn in concepts and developed by RGPC. We don't use your SU funding to do that. Those costs are crude and we pay for those. We choose the most implementable projects based on your available funding. Keep it in mind that you all have already programmed projects with your SU that need to go into fruition, that need to be paid for until completion. So we choose a project based on the cycle based on what needs to be done and choose the next candidate project that best suited on your one through 10 lists. But keep in mind your number one priority is our main focus. So as I mentioned, the Implementable Project correlated with the available funding. The project selected would then be program to be included in the tentative cycle. So you have adopted, you'll see that those adopted, you have adopted your LOPP and you will see A project or two in the tentative cycle in the fall when it's released in October November. The world program locks down September 30th every year. And again, when projects missed the deadline, it will delay the project construction for two or more years. That takes me to the draft tips. So I should go back to mention that from February through June, that of those out of critical months, where we are working with MPO, the city and county staff, like to Mayor Ward have mentioned, collaboration, deliberation on these concepts, and hopefully to come to a consensus so that in June through July through September, we can have a candidate project programmed. And if that is missed, we will have to repeat the entire cycle next year. And then see that project the following fall. So that's now year three. That's why it's very imperative for us to understand this timeline. So your draft tip, which is what a legislation is reviewing, it has two snapshots. The first snapshot, and it's in in March that is provided to the MPL to develop their tip, their draft tip. The final snapshot is provided in April. That is what you all adopt in June by June 30th to be statewide recognized July 1st. So currently you all are operating in your 25-29 tip that runs from July 1st of this year through June 30th of the next year. That current tip is live. It ends statewide June 30th however we have federal funds and therefore we must operate on their fiscal year at the same time. So when you all adopt your next tip, which would be your 2630, there are two tips running concurrently. And the most important thing to take away from this cycle here is the timing. And the reason being, last meeting you all asked that I get back with the team, pertaining to State Road 26 and Post-Pone. Well, as you know, today is October 7th, and it's after September 30th. So how did I have taken that suggestion? We wouldn't have the opportunity to reconsider that decision that you all made to act, either take all the parking out or take all the parking out or take all the parking out and nothing had all, basically. And leave the facility as it is. So here is a 20, this is State World 26 and 2017 area as you guys can see, but very faintly, the parking, the parallel parking is heavily used in front of the businesses here. On the east end, not so much if at all. In 2020, this area here, as you can see, is clearly a shop over the weekend. There's no parking utilized, no parallel parking already parking, and the commercial sites. Here was a state road 26, 2023 area of last year, very recent. The parking is still very much used on the west end and not at all on the east end of the site. Yes. Not true. So it is. But if you also look at that, you see all that vacant parking in that business is parking lot. So which I don't know what time of day I day I know if they had anything that this is just an aerial shot to just show at still it is heavily utilized on this on this corridor in which corresponds with the concept that we have that we provided the last meeting. This is the state road 26 concept plan that was presented and you all access still, although majority over 50% or more of the parking has been removed. The concept that we are proposing, which is even safer than the previous concept that you all had in 2018, which all you asked was for the removal of the parallel parking and bike lanes. This concept is proposing 12 and a half foot sidewalks for both bike lanes and pet users in each direction that's known as multi-use path. In addition, a three foot separator between parked cars and pedestrians. so that's even 15 feet in more away from the travel lanes. Parking on the east end has been completely removed, and on the west end remains around 50 or so spaces until split between both directions. This is the concept. It has not changed from the last meeting, and DOT intends on not changing it. You have presented two options today. To take this concept, and while we understand it is your SU funding, it is our facility. But we are willing to compromise, and if you all are willing to compromise as well, and say that this concept is better than where it stands today. We are perfectly okay with you all saying no, we're going to take option B, we don't want it, we want to leave it as it is and we choose to use our SU funding elsewhere. That's perfectly okay. I will go back to my office and withdraw this project. We will not have had a project this year and we will wait next year for your adopted LOPP. This project can remain as number one, but we will not revisit it. The goal is to today, at least my goal is that you all see what I see that this is a better project than a stancidate in the facility while I understand. Everything that you previously mentioned, Commissioner Cornell, this is the best that we can do on our facility. And with that said, again, the SU funds will go back into the year box and we won't use it, we won't have a project today. But keep in mind, we have lost a year planning because we didn't have any this was our only project that we could that we saw this year to be implemented and we will have to wait to the next year cycle to open. See a project in the tentative for it to be adopted the following year spring which is legislation session to be your draft tip by the summer and adopt it to be then recognized federally October 1st. It's about a three-year proxy. Yes ma'am. I'm pure. So can I come in? Yes. So I like that. I quite like that a lot. When you say DOT's willing to compromise, what does that mean? Pay for? This is your compromise. compromise what what what does that mean pay for? Meaning you can this is the compromise on our facility that we're willing to do and create take away some of the parking but not all of the parking. That is the compromise commissioner. You know what the cost estimate for this is for S U money because I the cost assessment I heard at the last meeting was it would be three to four million. It would basically use our S U money for two to three years. And alongside other projects that you have in the work program, it won't be one big chunk, but over the course of the project development that will be the cost. A little bit each year of it. That's correct because there are other projects in the work. I like this and I like the fact that the DOT is working with us and they're going to be working with us for a long, long time. So I'm happy with this compromise. My issue that I had at the last meeting was using all of our SU money when I thought a simple restriping by eliminating the public parking would be more inexpensive and a lot easier. But again, it is your facility. I hear you loud and clear. And I also quite like the fact that you're up here presenting all the other projects that we're going to be working on together. So I'm good with this commissioners. I don't I don't know how my colleagues feel and I don't know if we need a decision when the mayor is trying to get to the EOC, but I'm happy with where we are. Well, I think DOT has made themselves very clear. You have been very precise and to the point. And to stand exactly what you're saying. I think this is the route we need to take today. We're not gonna use all of our funding on this one project, like you said. So I think this is the motion that we need on the floor. And if I can, Madam Chair, I think this corridor is actually a pretty dangerous corridor right now. And so I hear you about just restraping, but I actually don't think that would solve our problem. I think we need to remove as much of that parking as we can. And I think the parking that is there is being used in a lot of ways for park and ride. I think people are driving in and parking there and then taking the bus into campus and things like that. I've seen it happen. So I think it's a makeshift park and ride situation. So I get keeping some of it. So I'm willing to make the motion that we move forward around 50 spaces on the western portion of that corridor. Second. Oh, thank you. So many seconds. Thank you. Thank you. That completes my presentation. I just have a comment. I just really thank you for your directness. It makes it a lot easier for us to understand what it is we're trying really dealing with when it's told us directly. She made it straight up. Straight up. Straight up. You know, didn't pull any punches. Thank you. All right. Thank you. I have a question. Commissioner Alfred. Could I ask for DOT to review the safety concerns that were brought up by Kristen Young during our last meeting because she had some very, very specific concerns. She's very involved in our bike pad committee about two way, two way bike traffic and the number of places where cars may not be prepared to look in both directions for bicycles. Oh, from the sidewalk. From the sidewalk. So I would ask D.O.T. to look very carefully at her analysis and we listen to her a lot. She's very good. And look at... I think they have addressed that. If I remember her comments correctly, it was on the far decent part. They eliminated the parking on that. I don't I still think that there's a concern. I still would like them to look at her comments and see and and and review them to make sure that they are being addressed because the the number of places where there's the opportunity for a conflict between a car and a bicyclist is high. There is a additional three foot separator from the parked car. I think it's the driveway. I think the number of driveways that cross that sidewalk. So you have bicycles using that as a quarter for transportation. It's not just recreational biking. There's a lot of bikes that use that to get to and from the University and other businesses. And so they're coming quite quickly down that sidewalk. And there's a lot of driveway intersections. Yeah. I don't comment in the minute. I don't comment in the minutes. I defer the questions on this. I'll in favor indicate by saying aye. Aye. As opposed to like sign, the motion passes. Thank you so much. Thank you. It's not ideal. She's really, too. OK. There are comments from MTPO members? I just have a quick report. We got the notice from David Tyler that the post springs road light has been approved. And so that in high springs, you know that the traffic coming from post-brings into high springs has been an issue for a while. And so we've gotten the approval for that there in the design phase now. Well, very good. Yes, I'm excited. Thank you. Commissioner Cornell and then Mr. Mayor. I just had one question. Commissioner, will I see some new pictures up on the wall? Can you tell us what you're looking for? Yes, I think you're really lovely. Yes, we've just hung them today. Laura Predney from the community, a local artist, here has put them in. And I'm excited to have them. Not only is she done the paintings here, but she's also built the frames that are displaying the malls out there. So thank you for noticing. It's nice to have artwork in the community here for us to enjoy. Thank you. Thank you. Actually, some of these are people from the community too. You may see these portraits back here are residents from the Thaphanewi. The Thaphanewi. Yeah. Where she used to live. Thank you. Thank you. All you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Madam Chair. I just wanted to once again remind everyone how important it is to take the hurricane very seriously. It looks like we're only going to get tropical storm winds here, but we are going to we are under all of the lots of counties under a flood watch until, until Thursday night. One of the things I think is going to impact us here in Lachor County, that is an MTPO issue, is that we are very likely to experience lots of evacuees from further south. This is an unprecedented, we keep saying that, but it keeps being true. It's another unprecedented hurricane. Smaller than the last one, but far more deadly. It's already a cat five headed for some of the most popular areas of our state. And I hope that people who have been asked to evacuate are already on the road. But some of those folks are gonna stop here in Elantra County and we will need to give them our patients and our support just as we would hope for from them if we're going the other direction. So please everyone carry a little grace with you and and and dole it out freely. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Public comments. I had a comment. Oh, Commissioner Alfred. Thank you, too. I to go along with what Mayor Ward said, we are going to see tropical force winds here. And we do have a lot of weakened trees. We will see trees down. I don't know the state of GRU, but I do know that other utilities have their resources are stretched thin. A lot of the folks that we're providing assistance, mutual assistance, mutual aid have moved on to worse parts of the state. So if we do have power outages there like so be prepared for longer power outages if we do have them and be prepared for tropical force winds that's that's no joke tropical force winds are still pretty significant winds. So we're about to talk, we're going to remind you. Yeah, and we are still giving way tarps out at the Aquachian Center. And there are multiple places where you can still fill sandbags across the county. So go to alachacountyready.com to find out those locations. Mr. Eastman, catch your scent. Just quickly, the only thing I wanted to mention this board, it's not hurricane related, to find out those locations. Just quickly I the only thing I wanted to mention this board. It's not hurricane related But our bicycle pedestrian advisory board is struggling to have enough people on it And it's an important board for us. We're seeing the impacts of it here in fact just in this project You know wanting this project was one that I think a lot of ways the pedestrian and bicycle community brought to us because there's dangers with interactions with them so we need that we need that board I just know that they've contacted me to say I don't know if it's just our county board or if it's this one as well but we've they've said it's here they struggled they didn't have quorum last time and so I don't I just want to bring that up we need more people invested and interested in this issue for the county. I don't know what the city's board and for the MTPO board so if you know if people who are interested in Biscopanestrian please recruit them to our advisory board so that we have a good complement of folks giving us good advice. Okay thank you. Other other comments? Okay. Hearing none then this meeting is adjourned. I think I'll go back. Hearing none, then this meeting is adjourned.