We're ready, ma'am. We had it for years and years. Ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, I think we're ready to reconvene the Dunnell and City Council meeting as we look at the clock. We're a little bit about 36 minutes behind schedule due to the CRA meeting earlier ran over some. So if you would join me with the Pledge of Allegiance and we'll start our council. I'll go to the division to see if the flag on the United States is from America. To be a republic for which it stands, one nation under God in this world with liberty and justice for all. Is there any one in the audience who would like to offer an opening prayer? Anyone in the audience want to offer an opening prayer? Seeing no one will have a moment of silence. Thank you Madam clerk mayor green here. Here. Vice Mayor Inskeit. Here. Councilman Leeman. Here. Councilwoman Hanchar. Here. Sean McLean. Finance Officer. Here. Chad Ward. Public Works Manager. Here. Michelle Leonard, assistant clerk here, Julie Denowsky, records clerk, William Aries, community development manager, and Chief Bray. I got a right this time. Here. City Attorney Andrew Han. I'm here too. The agenda for this meeting was posted on the city's website in City Hall Bulletin Board on Wednesday, May 7th, 2025. The agenda was amended on Monday, May 12th, 2025 to add item 1A and minute consent agenda. Are there any council comments regarding the agenda? Any council comments? Okay. Public comments on non-agenda items. It's a three-minute time limit. This is an opportunity to speak on items that are not only agenda. Anyone in the public wish to address the councilor this time? Do we have anybody signed up, ma'am? We have no one signed up. Okay. Thank you. I'll entertain a motion. Let's move on to the consent agenda. We'll accept public comments on the consent agenda items. Anyone in the council, I mean in the audience, wish to address these items on the consent agenda. Seeing no one, I'll entertain a motion on the consent agenda. As a motion on the floor in a second for the consent agenda any discussion. All of his favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. We'll now move on. And I would ask council's discretion. We have a guest here tonight who is very busy. Mr. Michael Moore, Michael, would you like to come up and address the council at this'm going to go back to the council. I'm going to go back to the council. I'm going to go back to the council. I'm going to go back to the council. I'm going to go back to the council. I copy of those or not So we have six dedicated deputies to the city of Denella and they're dedicated to the city everything they do is in the city limits If any of them have training or anything that comes up we make sure that they are completely covered within the city limits So for the month of April we had 34 34 arrests. They conducted 458 traffic stops. We had 20 traffic accidents. They conducted 245 security checks. Security checks is basically at nighttime. They're going out to the businesses, getting out of their cars. We've actually set many alarms off because we call it shaking the doors. We'll actually shake the doors, make sure they they're locked when we shake the doors. It sets some of the alarms off. So we kind of started marking down those buildings. We know which ones are that now. The 52 business contacts, I've tasked my day shift and mid shift that piece to make sure that they're actually going into the businesses. They're introducing themselves and they're talking to the people that work in the businesses and the managers and the owners. So that's what the business contacts is. Out of those traffic stops, they rode 106 tickets, and they gave 352 warnings. So our biggest thing is we're not trying to ticket everybody, we're wanting to educate. So we're looking at history. If they don't have any warnings from us. We're giving them a warning If they have an extensive history and they haven't changed their behavior on their speed Because they have prior warnings in parts of it's then they're getting another ticket So we try to give out as many warnings as we can but if their behavior is not changing then yes, we're issuing them tickets So So there was a hundred and six of those the Parking citations So your parking citations there were 73 that were issued and I'm sure that you guys have probably seen it over here with it Naturally, there's not a lot of happy people when it comes to the parking citations But once we explain to them what's going on the the feedback actually has been very positive. Out of those parking citations, all 73 are not from just over here, a good portion of those about 30 of them are actually from the public's plaza. One of the biggest things that we've noticed and we saw is that they're parking in the fire lane, going inside, doing the shopping and then coming back out. So So we started clearing those vehicles, and the ones that are unattended, they're getting a parking citation on there. So I've been playing attention to social media, and the word has definitely gotten out that we are issuing those parking citations. So our biggest thing is, especially the public's plaza, it's already narrow as it is. one car stops and now you got a traffic jam. So I've advised your deputies to make sure that they keep that clear and they keep going through there. On the DUI side of it, we have six. And then for the call service, we have 242. So our call service is basically people calling into 911. So you have 242 people that placed calls into 911. Last year you had 236, so we're about the same in calls for service. Accidents, we had 20 this year. Last year for this month, we had 18. So those are about equaled out between nine last year. The big difference is the proactivity from the deputies. So they've been working really hard and they're going to continue to work hard. Case wise, our arrests a lot of them are retails. Walmart is probably our biggest client of people that go out there and arrest from the retail thefts. So we're working with their lost prevention and we're going to try to get some stuff into place that it starts decreasing those retail thefts over there at Walmart. That's where our biggest issue is right now as far as making the arrest. Every single case that we have out of there this month, we've been able to positively identify who it is and we've either made the arrest or a warrant has been issued for them and they just haven't been picked up on the warrant. We don't have any open cases right now. They're all closed. We had a couple of burglaries and don't know if you heard about with our fruit stand. They went in there the one night, the one across from Walmart, the second night the deputy set up, and they decided to go back. So he caught them in progress, trying to go back in and make it another. So that young man went to jail. And then we had another one who stole a purse out of a car at the laundromat. We were able to identify them through the video, through some other investigative means. We were able to identify them. We wouldn't pick him up and he's now at Mary County, Jill too. So you guys have any questions for me? Yes sir. Today's the day we officially start the service contract, right? Yes sir. Yeah. So we don't need to vote on it anymore, we've voted on it before. So it is in place. It's not a, it's not an unreal thing, it is a real thing now, right? Yes sir. Yes, yesterday was acting chief, Vom Winkle's last day. So we, we said goodbye to her as the acting chief and returned her back into a lieutenant today today starts Is she gonna be doing the same job or is that gonna be your job? She is our district commander of our lieutenant. I am a sergeant over the six deputies here in the city of denellon Oh, so I answer to the lieutenant however my main focus she has the district of Denellin, the whole county. I have just the sole responsibility of the city of Denellin. And you work with Captain Bray? Yes, sir, chief. Chief, please announce. Okay, okay. I just wanted to find out and understand your position and the six that are here are mine. And anything that they do always comes through me. and then I make sure that I keep the lute on it up to date on everything we're doing in the city. Okay and I'm assuming we haven't had any complaints from the citizens or any feedback. Have we? I haven't had any. Okay. That's what we wanted. It's been all good feedback that I, gotten. They see you guys out and about. They see the people pulled over. They see the park in both parking lots. When you mention publics, I know we're here and myself. Sergeant Micah, Lieutenant Julie, can't thank you both enough. Yes, sir. And your deputies. Your whole organization. Yeah. The deputies are working hard. and they enjoy being over here. And I don't know if we talked about this before, but all of them live over here. So this is all home to them. Great. So that's why when we ask for the volunteers, they all volunteered. So this is their home. So they're happy to be here. Thank you so much. Thank you. Michael, this oneah. I know the Memorial Service tomorrow at the County Commissioners headquarters. Yes, sir. I had intended to attend that, but I'm not able to. I have another commitment. Emma's getting her scholarship award tomorrow morning, and I didn't know about it till Sunday, but I intend to intend that, but our chief now will be able to attend and represent the city. But I want to pass that along that I fully intended to be there, but I am a scholarship award is in the morning and I have to be there for that. That only comes first. Thank you, Micah. But if you would relate to Billy, please, that I wish I could have been there. We'll do. Okay, thanks, Micah. Thanks, Sean. Thank you, Trouble Son. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we'll move on now to Public Hearing. All persons wishing to address the city council will be asked to limit their comments to the specific subject being addressed. Public opinions and input are valued by the council. However, it is requested that comments are directed at specific issues rather than personal comments directed toward the council members or staff in order to foster mutual respect between the council members and the public. Members of the public and attendance at public forums should listen courteously and attentively to all public discussions before the body and focus on the business at hand. The shall refrain from interrupting other speakers, making personal comments not germane to the business of the body, or otherwise interfering with the orderly conduct of meetings. Members of the public addressing city council and boards or commissions on a specific project or proposal are requested to disclose any personal interest or relationship and any business professional or financial interest with any individual group project or proposal regarding the subject matter under review. Members of the public should always err on the side of more public disclosure, not less, in order to provide integrity to the public process. It is now 6.18 pm and I close the regular meeting and open the public hearing ordinance ORD 2025-03 storm water management advertised on the city's website on 4.23.2025 and then And the Riverland News 5-2-2-0-2-5. Staff comment. This is the second final reading of your updated stormwater ordinance. This came about as a result of our FDEP audit. They identified some areas of the ordinance that they felt needed to be amended. We had first reading and presented this to you last month. And this is our second final reading public hearing for adoption. Is anyone in the public wish to make a statement on this particular item? Anyone? Seeing no one. It is now 6.19 p.m. And I close the public hearing held to discuss ordinance ORD 2025 meeting. Go on to the final reading. I'm awarding this ORD 2025-03 be read by title only. Second. There's a motion on the floor to read by title only in a second. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Ordnance number ORD, 2020-503. An ordinance of the city of Denell and Florida relating to stormwater runoff, sedimentation and erosion control, construction waste control, and illicit stormwater connections and discharges. Amending the code of ordinances, subpart B, land development regulations, chapter 98, subdivision and land development criteria, article four, design guidelines, providing for conflicts, codifications, severability and effective date. Lentertain a motion. So moved to be approved. Second. There's a motion on the floor for approval. In a second. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. We'll move on now to item 1b. First reading ordinance, ORD2025. That's your four variants, text amendments. And we'll accept public comment on this item now. This is 1B on your agenda. Anyone wish to address the council on this item? Seeing no one, I'll entertain a motion. I move ordinance ORD 2025-04. It'll be read by title only. Second. There's a motion on the floor and a second discussion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Ordinance number ORD, 205-04. And ordinance of the city of Denell and Florida. Amending appendix A zoning of the city's code of ordinances. Amending chapter 94, article two of the city's code of ordinances. Retaining to the Planning Commission, providing for complication,ication conflict, severability and effective date. I'm going to obtain a motion. I have a board minutes twenty twenty five four be approved. Second, there's a motion on the floor in a second discussion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. now to item 1c. First reading ordinance, ORD 2025-07 to back-of-free parks. And I'll accept public comment on this item, 1c. Is there anyone wishing to speak on item 1c? Seeing no one, I'll entertain a motion. I'm the board of this 20 2025. It's 7 be read by time only. Second, there's a motion on the floor in a second discussion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Ordinance number ORD 2020 507 and ordinance of the city of Dennell and Florida. Prohibiting smoking and vaping in public parks, providing definitions, providing for signage, providing for prohibitions and enforcement, providing for conflicts, providing for severability, providing for codification and providing an effective date. I'll entertain a motion. Public comment. Second. There's a motion on the floor in a second and a discussion. Public comment. He called for public comment. Oh, I've seen it under each one. Sorry, you guys know what you're doing. Okay, we have a motion on the floor in a second for adoption. Any discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Now move on to item 2. Resolutions. Resolution RES 2025-15, surplus vehicles and equipment. And I'll accept public comment on this particular item. This is item 2A. Anyone wish to speak on this item? Seeing no one, I don't entertain a motion. That one was in the back. I move resolution 2025-15. Be read by Title Only. Second, there's a motion on the floor in a second. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries. Resolution number RES 2025-15. A resolution of the city of Denell and Florida declaring certain property has surplus and providing for disposal thereof. I move resolution RES 2025-15 be approved. There's a motion on the floor is there a second? Second. There is a second discussion. I had a citizen call today and I believe the last week we had a paper said that the value of the card was like $21,000 and that will have that I'll be buying for one eight. Correct. What? Correct. So, and they said there's a cost of $1,500 to take the insignia as the stuff off and they were questioning whether this, if we will realistically get the $1,000 per car, or $21,000. But we may not, but we have to surplus them. Anything over $5,000 has to be surplus and advertised. Right. We may not. Okay, so, but basically we are going to be taking a chance that we may end up just getting whatever we get for. The 8,000 from Wilson? Yeah, or from the auction. That's a possibility? Yeah. Now, Wilson is still interested in it too. They understand that we have to advertise for a minimum of a week. Right. And if there are no better offers Substitue, you know significantly better offers Why then they're still in arrest and taking those two? There's no interest in taking it. For the discussion In favor say aye. I motion carries We move on now to item number three, Board appointments. Mandy, did you have- Yes, sir. We received just this week two applications for the Planning Commission. And this is just an update to let you know that I'll be sending those out to you to review prior to the next workshops so you can discuss it and perhaps a point to new members to the Planning Commission next month. Are we so accepting, sorry, are we so accepting the applications? We're always accepting. I just mean once I talk to somebody today, that's why I should speak and sure I didn't. We've got two full member vacancies and two alternate vacancies currently on the board. So we have four vacancies. Just unclear, that was the commission we met last night. Yes. Yes. And we are advertising for the vacant council position. And so what we're going to do there is accept applications like we've done in the past up until say the Friday before the June workshop and you can workshop those if we get any. But we will be advertising for that as well. If you'll do something on Facebook, I'll put it on my Facebook and all the others. Thank you. Okay, any other board appointments, ma'am? No, sir. Okay. Staff agenda items? Yes, sir. You have an email that I printed because I wasn't sure if everyone had an opportunity to review that. But I met with Mr. Rick Dunne last week and he has agreed to come on board with us under the 90 day temporary hire that is in our personnel manual. The reason I'm bringing this to you is because we were concerned about a budget impact because we did not have a community development manager in the budget and that was discussed back in March whenever you authorized me to advertise for that position. The only two positions that we have budgeted in that department are for the community development supervisor, which was Kelly. And then the planning and zoning assistant, which is Megan, who took tomorrow will be her last day. So we had Shawna do an analysis of the budget to see where we're projected to be by fiscal year end to see if we would need to do a budget amendment before the end of the year. And I will let her speak to that. But what I'm requesting is that you allow me to appoint Rick Dunn to a community development position. I haven't worked out a job description. This sort of happened really quick, but I can, will and I can get together and probably look at the supervisor physician job description and come up something. And work with Mr. Dunn on that as well. He has probably a better vision of what he would like to help do in the department than I do. So I'm just asking that you give me your consensus to move forward with that. And, what else the other thing I had? So, I'll just pause there. Do you have any questions for me about that? Just the financials. Okay, and I'll let Sean speak to that. Good evening, everyone. I went ahead and came up with the calculations for the will, our new community development building department supervisor or manager, as well as Mr. Rick Dunn and I also have the soon to be vacancy of the community development system. With that being said, the general fund will actually be a little over budget but not much. And the CRA has plenty of leeway due to the fact that we actually have some other departments that play a hand in that that have decided to hire someone temporary instead of two positions during the peak season of views. Does anyone have any questions? Shona, so it's not a, we're not talking, it gives a rough idea of what you envision as far as the, is there what the expense is? I know you said it's not a lot, but what would it, you have a rough idea of what we're looking at? Well, basically I hate to admit this, but the copy that I printed changed when I was working on some other police numbers. So I need to get the lines straightened out again. Okay, well you're better. I could go get the laptop. All right, when you go ahead and the same one you sent me, it should be yes. I know when we were talking earlier, it was General Fund was going to run about 10,000 over that's still where you're at. Yes, sir. Okay, gotcha. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. is already allocated because if they had stayed here we would have been paying them instead of these two gentlemen. Kelly's actually been running longer than what we anticipated but since we haven't had a- The one you sent me didn't have the capital when it yet. But with- So we have the rest of Megan's pay roll for that position for the rest of the year. We have for the entire year, we're working with Kelly under a contract. For the entire year, we have had the community development supervisor position, which is what Kelly was fulfilling, but we actually had a line item for that for the entire year. So we haven't spent very little of that, that's what's offsetting it. I guess what I'm trying to get to is we don't need to make a move tonight with it. We are set up until we see. Financially we're financially we're in good shape. We're in good shape so we don't need to do something tonight until we have a better handle of what we're doing. Correct. It looks like right now the impact is going to be roughly for the general fund is going to Hit us up for 10,000 more than what we actually have budgeted But with the overall department and everything that falls underneath there the whole thing is Yeah, it was just the personnel category that was a little over But if if you combined the personnel with the operating, it would actually be under budget. And that's what we like to hear. Correct. We want to give the leeway to our management, you know, to make decisions that are best, especially at this point in time when we do not have what we need in our planning department. So we applaud your efforts to try to tie this together and keep it within our framework of budgeting, regardless of how you decide you want to do that, John. But we're very pleased that you were able to put this together, Mandy, also for your hard work in this. And it would counsel approve, will I ask Mr. Dunn if he would like to address the council. Would you would that be a council you already? Yes I would thank you. Yes Mr. Dunn please join us. I hate to put you on the spot but I know you're used to that. Okay well we're ready for you. The council will be all get ready. Okay. Good afternoon. Good evening. Again, Rick Dunn is my name. I live at 194 or 65 Southwest, 84th place, Dunn on Florida. I did prepare a little bit of an objective goal for when I've talked a little bit and we'll get together. I approve this position. We'll get together and fine tune it and add some information. Also Chad is hopefully going to be encouraged by this to help out with the direction the public work is going. But basically I've set up seven items to look at. I think we all have a copy of this document. So I'm not going to read it to you. But basically, if you look all the way to the bottom, actually we talk a little bit about grants, et cetera. It was the CRA coordinator for St. Peter Ferd back in 2002 and 3. So it was pretty familiar with that process. I'm passionate about it because we set up a policy that actually raised money to the millions of dollars and I realized this is a much smaller community at the point being that it increased exponentially the value of properties when one or two folks got involved. I think it's important to will'll understand there's them permits out there development permits that may mean adjust or addressing quickly. So that would probably be a priority for we'll I'm guessing to get those out the door or get them at least reviewed for the first time or second time. Same thing with the whole review process on just normal permitting, et cetera. It would be a priority for the boredom, quite confident. And then a little bit about a grand opportunity. The FDO key has money that can help with some of this. The idea of Chad's idea of using the money for sidewalks and Mr. Mayor, your idea of streets being improved in our part of your capital improvement process. Our project is right on target with what communities have done as infrastructure, especially in this day and age. And also we have a gentleman visiting us today as a grant writer that has agreed to meet with Will and staff at some point to talk about professional grant writing and what your needs are. So Will has a big task ahead and I applaud him for taking it to and with the opportunity to help out a little bit, I'm happy to be doing. I'm probably part of it because I loved that Alan. I love being here and I retired four times in the last five years. What I'm happy to be here and I feel like I want to stay part of the community I've shared. This was mostly folks that I know in here. So if you have any questions for me, I'd be happy to answer them. Valerie? Hey, again, I just would publicly like to thank you for stepping up. I know when I talked to you all the first time I ever met you all, I kind of asked you, like, oh, we'd love for you to come give us a lesson on CRAs and those types of things. So I'm excited to learn from you, see how we can all be a part of this, of our hometown and I look forward to you know just walking with you and my phone is always open to you. Thank you. You got a good man in the wheel so I think you're going the right direction so. Right? Yeah. You've got CRA experience. I was wondering tonight as you heard our discussion about our checks and balances, would you be able to give us insight into that so that we can have a better understanding because we now have somebody who's actually got that experience, would you be able to give us a hand in developing the checks and balances that Councilman Inskeek wants? Absolutely'll like and sit down and we'll come up with a policy procedure for you that will knock your socks off and keep the keep you on the straight and arrow but at the same time improve the community and improve the property values and move the city forward instead of staying stagnant. And you're going to be with the, you're very familiar with infrastructure, you're gonna be looking at what we need in down now in terms of infrastructure and start making suggestions. Absolutely well, yes, with child's help. And just a personal thing, because I wanna I'm two buildings that are on Pennsylvania and 41, the one on the Southwest corner. What incentives could we do or what could we do or the two of you do so that we can start looking at getting those buildings on the market, getting somebody interested in them so we can get them rehabbed and we can start. To me that is the point that needs to be cleaned up because it says more about what the NLN is. Can you give us some insight to that? Sure. One of the line items I have on here talks about the community development and dealing with blight, specifically engaging commercial property owners. One else sit down and will kind of categorizeize the buildings that you're referring to and several others that are in need of some direct attention. And incentivize instead of condemning and wanting to tear down the building, I was pretty much in favor of always trying to rehab and restructure or rehabilitate the buildings. I probably condemned 150 to 200 houses a year, buildings a year in St. Petersburg. And 50% of those we entered in the stipulation agreements to rehab them, which was a win-win for everyone again. And I'm hoping we can do the same thing, we can inspire some of these folks. What we can do with development services, is we look at those two particular buildings are forfe from a highway. So you're not going to have people walking up and down the front of the building and our zoning limits the rear use of the building for access from a perspective of setbacks, et cetera. That's where the development services manager and city council actually can look at possibly variances to the zoning. They literally turn the building as far as access to the back of it. It's not uncommon. Again, you have to get creative with your zoning regulations. You don't have to do anything improper. You just have to go through a process, maybe provide some variance opportunities, but you got to get those people together first. We did a lot of shurets and a couple of them. I worked with Tampa a little bit of Hans St. Petersburg and St. Pete Beach and we were everyone's redeveloping. And one of the things we did was put together shurets, where we had council members representing their constituents. We had staff, a chat with a part of it, and obviously will. And even different, you know, Andrew made me needed some time to help out. But anyhow, we knew a couple of charats and meetings and talk to folks and get the players, get the stakeholders to come. And I would, that's one of the first things I think we would try to do is get the blighted buildings, but also the good building, nicer buildings, and coordinate a team effort with the city for commission and the property owners. And that's the starting point. You got to get folks talking instead of just turning their back on the building. Let's get the building looking good on the front. Let's make some way to get parking to the back and access to the back and create a pedestrian friendly approach to it. And we could take all three of those buildings in the police station and do a really good rehab I think. And just as caveat, that is those buildings are for sale. I know. Oh. Okay, nobody's buying. Yeah, I know. That's the problem. And that's what I was, that's the problem. Would you explain Tourette's, just in case anybody's listening, who doesn't, who doesn't understand it? Tourette's. I'm not sure what you mean. you were just talking to your friends. I thought he said to rents. I said it. I'm not going to pass any money. Sorry. Yeah, Charette is a meaning of the public to try to come to an understanding about processes or in the case of the city and the zoning, the division process. That was for the stakeholder being individual residential folks. It was the contractors that were going to be hired to do work on projects. It was architects and it was commission meetings again, maintaining sunshine requirements, but they would have tables set up at a meeting. So that's the function there is to get folks together. You get 5% 1% to 5% of the community, but you at least get people interested in what is happening in their city. And like I said, you engage the property on it. That's a big part of it. So if you got a grant program, and of course, that's out of the CRA, I think. Send in the CRA? That Yes sir. See that's a perfect project to inspire, try to inspire somebody. So you should, what's the balance of your fund? A million? Did someone tell me? Of your CRA fund. Yeah, coming out here. Yeah, it's up close to a million, but we have 600,000. The grants are 100,000 a year right now. 50, 50 residential commercial. In the account, we have somewhere close to a million, but we have my cloche on it. It's actually 1.3 million. How much we have dedicated to grow? 685. So 685 of that is dedicated. Another hundred of that once we turn the grant policy back on would be dedicated to that. So be cautious of people throwing out that million dollar number because it's a 4 or 5 hundred thousand. You got it. Yes sir. And again that's a starting point. Right. So that's what I'd like to do is we'll lie and judge to sit down and talk about these things and get engaged with the property owners. And the other thing we did was we wrote in the Chamber Commerce. They were big players in that conversation with folks. I'm going to understand your chamber here is sort of the record on development like of the city. So getting them more active and truly active and economic can only develop them in not just ribbon cuttings and things like that which is valuable but they would love to be engaged in a process like that so I would encourage that participation. Excellent. Rex did you manage your hair? No sir. Rex? No'm thrilled. Yeah, I'm ready for the community development to be what it's always been. What way used to be? All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's a great pleasure. I forgot my wife is also a big part of our process. Of course. A run of Asians called the design and color and you can't blame her for not being sick. Thank you very much. So I have your blessing. It's a blessing. You don't need you don't need counsel acting. You just need a consensus. Oh, we have to capture just sir. We are happy Okay, thank you. Thank you. All right anymore Department reports Yes, we had a letter come in today from Mary County regarding our participation in the CDVG program and we'll pull this up for you and let Shauna speak to you about that. Yes, we've been a partnership with Mary County since 2020. And the most recent agreement was in August of 2022. It renews every couple years. Basically what it does is it allows us to go through Mary County for CBDG grants instead of having to go through the federal grant system for that. Is there any objection to us having the mayor sign this? Have we used any of the phone numbers? No, no, no I mean, okay, we did do a CDBG grant program. I was either teenager in my early 20s and they came in and did a lot of great houses. I mean, they really did do a beautiful job and some of these homes were, you know, you could see through the walls and you know, longer cuts. So,. So I just you know it's a program that if we can use it it's great just something that doesn't you know cost us funds but I don't think there's any harm out of us doing it and it helps people that I mean my father used to build houses and I can go point to them just right across the road or the river. So it's a good program if we can use it. Rex, do you? Don't cost anything, right? Basically the agreement has to be between Mary and County and has to be approved through. Mary and County basically gets the grant and then they approve whether or not we are approved. I cannot just vote for a little point. And this letter doesn't commit us to anything. This is just our intent to requalify. And the reason we're bringing this to you on such short notice is we just got it today and they want to respond by the 25th. So if we submit the letter with the mayor signature, then an interlocal agreement will be forthcoming for you to consider and that will be the actual partnership. So this is just giving them our intent to say yes we would like to continue participation. We're free. Is there any issues? Any issues? Any questions? Any questions? Sir? We need a motion. Yes sir. There's a proposed motion.'ve given you here. I could get rid of that. I'll read for you. The proposed motion is to authorize the mayor to sign the letter of requalification to participate with Marion County for receipt of community development block grants CDBG funds as an urban county. So moved. Second. There's a motion on the floor that we accept. The reading of the proposed document and it was seconded discussion. Public comment? Anyone wish to speak in the public on this issue? Seeing none. Motion on the floor in a second. Further discussion with council? All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion unanimous. Who else has got her department report? Oh, wait a minute. I see our new chief of police. Mr. Ron Bray, welcome. Your first day on the job is our new chief. Welcome. The only thing I'm having very briefly tonight because Sergeant Warren very ultimately showed you their product to be which was very positive Was I just need to get some direction from council as we continue surplus needs to things Statutory would require to anything of value 5,000 and above we have to make it resolution Has to go out for bit However, we do have our handguns that we purchase that we do have an offer on. Now, we bought 20 blocks for $3,070. That's 20 individual handguns. We will be retaining five of those for the police department for myself and for resource officers.. We have received an offer for $3,000. So essentially, we're only paying $70 per five dollar. If we were to do that. So are there any questions or would you prefer me to unfold with that? Essentially, we're getting a little bit more than we pay for that hands. Yeah. Is that it? Is there any questions about it? Does anybody respond with it? I'm good. Do we need an emotional illness, Andrew? We'll need a surplus resolution still. We'll still need to have a pass of surplus resolution and provide for the disposal to whom else. OK, that's my missing. You're standing on Sarmindy. Yeah, yeah, you'll still have to go through that process and identify just like we did with the vehicle for public works that we sold to the town of Angles. Gotcha. It would be pretty much the same type. So we can set that up for the June meeting. Sure. That's my apologies apologies are. No, no, no, no. I'm going to misunderstand too. When I read the statute, it says 5,000 and above. Not does this have to go for. It doesn't have to go out the bed. But we still have to play it. And it sure was. And you revised for the method of disposing. And that makes sense. Gotcha. Gotcha. That's okay, it's information. That's here as it comes. And just very, it's Williston, that's in a rest of the Dindagot. So we're also helping out. That's okay, it's information. More to come. And just very, it's Willisden, that's in a rest of the day in the garden. So we're also helping out our neighbor in getting our money back. Well, that includes the bullets. I mean, I know this is something I'm asking to get married with. I'm not including it. Okay. No. That'll be another course. Oh, yeah. Ron, what do you have anything else? I do not. Unless you have any questions on me. Well, I know this that you will be attending the event tomorrow, the memorial event tomorrow and you'll be representing the city as our chief of police and I want to congratulate you on stepping up to fulfill this obligation for our city. Well thank you Mayor and I appreciate the council's support and I'll be glad to be there tomorrow morning. Sorry I would be happy if the citizens academy. You will be having fun. Well for Lee I know you'll express our appreciation to the law officers. It'll be contributing to the event. Absolutely. Thank you, Rowan. Anybody have any questions, Rowan? Okay, Mr. Chief. Mr. Chief. Madeline, you're back there with the Chief now. Yeah. Madeline Rowan. Okay. For Madeline chief now. Any other department reports? Don, anything else? I did run some quick numbers on the being projection for the closing of the police department. Of course, I don't have the numbers from the disposition of the vehicles, equipment, et cetera, but we're actually looking at a surplus of 172,000 that's including paying Mary County Sheriff. Okay. That's good news. Any questions for Sean on this item? Any other? There was one more thing I think you had to say. Oh wait a minute we got my chat. Well Sean has got one more. Did you have a shot of that? Oh you have something else? Yes. Basically, if and as you know I've been working very hard on trying to get the Financial software straightened up. I'm at a point where I should be getting the journal entries Correcting journal entries done shortly and my goal is to have the budget calendars out to you by the first of June. So, questions before that. Okay, any questions for Shana on her busy work? I will add to that is that the departments need to go ahead and start looking and preparing their budgets to give Dishana probably first week of June we need to try and get started because we're right a little bit behind. I don't know why we're running behind on anything but I really found out that I can do with the new software is I can actually print a detail of what you had last year with the amounts so that you can actually utilize that to use for this year because a lot of the items are every year just update the amounts. Okay. And then I can just upload that. Any questions for Sean? Okay, thank you. Department reports. Have no report from the public works. Will did you have anything you wanted to add? No, it's been a rough month. I'll just hold my report until next meeting. All right. That's a welcome news there. We're glad to hear that. It's time off before seven o'clock.m. Councillor Layerson reports and comments. Well I just wanted to ask Chad. I know they were talking about doing the road driveway over there by where my office is the fire department. I had a lady trip over there the other day. Spring or April. So just the business owners are kind of asking me when is it going to be taken care of? I thought we were putting it out for a bit. No, no, we got to finish up the bid spec. Chatting our meeting tomorrow to finish up the bid spec. it's back. Fix it. Yeah, okay. Cool. All right, because it is, it's getting, I mean, I know you know, but I mean, she, she, to a syringle, really bad. So. Is that it, family? Yes, sir. All right, okay, Rex. Damn. Nothing, sir. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I don't have anything to report. We covered so many good issues. We seem to be in pretty good shape. Had an end of June for our annual budget. The rastling we'll be doing during the summer. And we look forward to that. And we look forward to our planning department and progress that we hope for that we're going to see for our city. Andrew, do you have anything? Yes, Mayor, I do. And rather than two minutes or fewer, I'll try to do it in three minutes or fewer. But I was happy to throw my associate under the bus yesterday to give you some bad news. But it's important enough bad news that I do want to reiterate it. And that is dealing with Senate Bill 180. It's a bill that was voted on and rolled on the very last day of session at the very last hour, and had some very big surprises in it that I don't think any local governments were prepared for. And the crux of this bill means it's a rather long bill. It's 48 pages long. There's two sections which are directly related to planning, community development that I want to talk about. The rest of the bill will have some other requirements dealing with hurricanes because it's an emergency management bill. But essentially what the bill does, and I don't know how much detail Ryan got into it. But last year with the hurricane declarations for the three hurricanes, if there is a county that was covered by one of those declarations that applies to them. Well, between those three declarations, federal disaster declarations, every county in Florida is covered. So although the legislature is tagging this legislation to these declarations, We've been covered the state of, the entire state of Florida and everybody is covered. So although the legislature is tagging this legislation to these declarations, it recovers the state of Florida and everybody is affected. And this portion of legislation, which is the very last section, section 28, what it does is it says that a municipality within one of these affected counties and the county as well may not propose or adopt any more authority of unconstruction reconstruction, or redevelopment of any property damaged by such hurricanes, propose or adopt more restrictive or burdensome amendments to its comprehensive plan or land development regulations. Or, and it continues on, it deals with site development, issues of the site plan, basically interfering with the development process. So given that the city is currently undergoing a comprehensive plan amendment rewrite process, this particular bill does not provide any definition of what may constitute a more restrictive or burdensome amendment. Accordingly, we really don't have any choice those are are going to take it on its face. And the competent conclusion that a government cannot write on a restriction for burdens on amendments into its compressed plan, which is very, very broad, or the limit will code for that matter. Very, very broad deal with what, you know, here's a few other focusingly, hurricane reconstruction. Nonetheless, it applies across the board effects, anything within the LDC effects, anything within the conference plan. It might be, meet that characterization. And the surprising part of this bill is it's retroactive. It doesn't just look forward, it looks back to August 1st, mid-Hurricane season last year. So many communities are finding themselves in a position if they've adopted more restrictive or burdensome LDC amendments or comprehensive plan amendments. Those amendments are void, have an issue. Should this bill become a law? And it does appear that it will, either the governor signs it during session post-session since the session has been extended. It would require a veto to not become a law and the scope of the bill is so broad it does deal with the central management services as well. So this is lumped in there. Basically where that leaves the city, this runs retroactively and I don't believe that Dinellen is caught up in the retroactive regulations. I don't recall anything the city has adopted during that period so that doesn't seem to be an issue. But retroactively until from August 1st last year until August Apartment October 1st of 2027, there's essentially, we'll just call it a moratorium on restrictive and burdensome amendments being added to a conflanner blend of element code. In addition to, and if the city does violate the bill, it provides a cause of action and attorneys fees to prevailing individual who are standing who can sue the city. Should there be a lawsuit a violation of the bill? In addition, there's a separate section, which is where they have no, they really could make these restrictions indefinite given that it's an ongoing, unless the bill, of course, is not adopted, it changes. If it becomes a law and it's amended, by the legislature at some point, but there's also a provision under section 18, which essentially states in the future if a municipality is an accounting that becomes, in a future hurricane, part of a disaster declaration, federal disaster declaration, then that period to amend for more X-IVAM and those other land use elements as well as a mening and comprehensive plan, the mening LDC, more burdensome or strict them, they be told for a period of a year from the date of the declaration. So it's both backward looking, forward looking for at least two years, two and a half years, and then possibly permanent, depending on what we see each year for hurricanes. They don't seem to be going away or calming down. So it really does have a massive effect on the community's ability to plan for development, to plan for what would be contained within land planning documents, comprehensive plan, and land development regulations. So, that's just one of the important bills that we've seen during session. We've discussed a few of the ones that were hard hitters that didn't come to fruition this year, but this was a last minute entry. In fact, I didn't even know about it at the workshop on Monday. This had happened late Friday night. Memo and the enrolled bill was released late in the day Friday on my way here to Denellin. So I found out about it first thing in the morning on Tuesday. So certainly something that has massive import and came up unexpectedly. So I just want to let you know the full span of really what all cities, all counties in Florida are facing with this legislation. One thing that our geniuses in telehasse have not thought about on this is that cities are going to try and counties also are going to try to enhance their building codes to relate to the system that we're in now as far as the weather should concerned. Especially the coastal cities of this rebuilding and not raising homes up substantially for flood. Well I got news for the legislature that they don't run the insurance companies. And these insurance companies can install their rules and they're not going to ensure homes that are vulnerable to these floods regardless of what the legislature deems as far as what's acceptable and not being able to cope with this rising water we have. Well, they're not going to be able to get insurance. So what is the legislature going to do? Are they going to figure out a way to ensure these homes that the insurance companies will not ensure when they don't improve them to face the fact that we are in a climate change. And if you don't think we're in a climate change, you don't have to think we are. All you have to do is look at your insurance premium. Insurance companies believe there's climate change, whether you do or not. And they can legislate all they want to, but they're not adjusting properly to what the citizens are going to face as far as trying to live on the coastal areas of our state. And that's how I feel about that. I will do my best to keep you in the loop of anything I hear about the bill. Of course, we have our annual attorney's conference at the end of July. And I'm sure it'll be a big topic of discussion just initially, you know, throwing around discussion in our office. There are a number of areas where communities are required to strengthen requirements, whether it be federal, state, or otherwise. And now we have legislations that's conflicting, that says that it cannot be do it, and there's a cause of action for doing so. So I think that something will have to be addressed just as you pointed out, Mayor, and we'll see and I will stay on top of it and keep you informed when I hear of that because I think something does have to change. It has to an insurance market is going to dictate that. There's no way that the insurance market can insure homes continually because the state says they can't enhance the flood protection. I just don't see how that's going to work in the marketplace. But that's my pay grade I guess. Mr. Mayor, what can we do? I mean, is there a list of people we should call as a letter we should send? If this point I would call the League of Cities. If you have concerns. And the League of Cities can point you, you know, they can let you know with they intend to do and maybe give you some ideas what you can best do about since they coordinate, you know, both with the League of Counties and of course with other similar things. That's right.. Yeah. Just so everybody's aware, I did reach out to the Florida League of Cities today on this exact issue for the town of Yankee's House. And they were stating that there are many lobbyists that are pushing forward the governor to veto this, but you don't know until you know. Yeah. So we wrote a letter that was signed by the mayor today for the town of Yankee town asking for this not to be passed and share it with those lobbyists so they can bring that to the governor whenever he decides that he's going to review this and potentially sign it. Will you will aware what I spoke about this insurance issue and they're not going to be able to get insurance. So I don't know how anybody is going to get a mortgage. I don't see how they're going to cripple the ability of people to be able to build on the coast. Right. And they're going about it in a roundabout way. But the insurance market will not cooperate with this. And, you know, it's very speculative, but I've seen it for the last almost four years in Yankee Town where it's only the one percenters and the developers that are being able to purchase these and continue building and doing everything else because they can afford those insurance rates, even if it's private insurance rates. Yeah. Yeah, the individual's gonna be out of the market. Correct. And we're going to be left with blight. I mean, I know a house right in Yankee can tell that I have to sail. It can't be lived in and it has to go up because it's been flooded twice. I mean, the second time was up to the kitchen cabinets. And you can't do anything with the house. And it's just going to sit there and celebrate and be a Blight on a neighborhood So and if maybe we get me that name and number please wherever you just say Andrew may not know the answer Is there anything is there any reasonable reason? why the legislatures went this route? Or did they just sell the cities out and crawl in bed with the developers? I can really speculate as to all the reasons. I mean, this is part of the for lack of better term, worse trading end of the last session to get certain things passed that want to be passed. And so this bill, I mean of target disaster management efforts, but it also has what we talked about. And yeah, I mean, disaster management is a very focused area. I mean, it can be broad and encompasses a lot of things to consider. But like I said, it's very broad solution to a small sort of speculating as to what the interest was and who they were catering to He only leave that to the taxpayers and the voters Part of just inform you Now I didn't know if you had any insight I was dumb as point. I don't know. Thank you. They may have a bit more. They're willing to volunteer But I don't know if they want to speculate It. It's like I can buy everyone's money. What FLC had said was that many of the coastal communities down south gave a very short period of time for people that had flooded homes to the side with the next steps were, they were going to raise the house or elevate it, or what their next steps were, many of them which only gave them 90 days to figure that out. And so part of this would be able to come back that issue where these communities and these building officials and even FEMA coming in and just condemning it home and saying you've either got to raise or demo it. And some of these communities gave very short periods for this issue. And that was part of, I believe, the tactic here was to know you can't do anything that's going to create an extra burden on these people. They need the time, whatever else. I don't think that legislator looked the implications all the way around on this though. Good on you. This comment since what it said, you'd have six months. Where are you? That would be a common sense simple answer. I'll say even for Yankee Town, we have it said in these sort of deadlines for people, and there are still homes that are either need to be demolished and some of them are applying for elevate Florida and other programs to elevate their homes Those things are going to take years And so that's just part of the justification behind putting putting the set 8 that they have to have something in place Thank you Anything else Andrew? Oh, I have sir. Okay. Well you open that up and I appreciate it. I certainly do. I know our council appreciate it. Yes, ma'am. Andrew sets up a net reminder me of one more thing. I need to follow it up with me today after the joint meeting last night and you know they're kind of but relook at their analysis and the population projections and so we want to have another joint meeting with the Planning Commission on June the 10th if you'll put that on your calendars. Okay. Everybody got that? What date was that June 10th? June 10th and it works out well because you have a few more things coming through the planning commission that you'll be Seeing in June so just like last night they were able to give you an update on the very Variance text amendments that you had your first reading on tonight so that will also Serve sort of as an opportunity for them to go ahead and update you on the things that you're going to be looking at passing in June without them having to come back. Okay. Anything else? I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. Motion on the floor to adjourn. A second. Discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. I feel like we're going to have a memorial deadline.