All right. Good morning and welcome to the um Yeah Good morning and welcome to the Board of Supervisors meeting for December 10th, 2024. I want to make a few announced quick announcements before we begin. There are hearing devices available. These are just quick announcements. Hearing devices are available on the left side of the dius. These board chambers are T-coil compatible for hearing devices, and there are speaker slips available at the back of the chambers and the right side of the dius. And with that, again, I welcome you all to the meeting, and if you'll please join me in a salute to the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. the committee. We will be with liberty and justice for all. All right. And with that, given that just a second, it feels like the meeting started really quick. If I'll ask the clerk to read changes to the agenda, please. Addendum to item number 15, a request to approve a funding agreement with Southern California Edison in the amount of 36,339,000 from 2024 to 2027 to fund the Central California rural regional energy network. Approval resolution amending the position allocation list for fund center 142, planning and building to add one FTE limited term administrative services manager, approved for contracts for professional services for the detailed program services, approved a related budget adjustment in the amount of 36,339,000 for Fund Center 142 planning and building by a four fifth vote. Staff is replacing attachment to correct typographical error and attachment one and attachments three through seven to add signatures. Addendum to item number 30, a request to receive and file report on Department of Planning and Billion Activities and Receiving File and Annual General Plan Progress Report for fiscal year 2023-24. Staff is replacing the staff report and attachment one to provide updated information regarding the status of department initiatives. the committee. The committee has a report on the committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's committee's and we're going to be able to do that. We're going to be able to be satisfied as notice was posted prior to the 72nd notice requirement. Great. Thank you. And at this time, we're going to go to our consent agenda, which today is items number one through 26. And we also added an item number 33 onto that consent agenda. So we're going to be opening public comment to those items. If you wish to speak on items 1 through 26, grab a slip. And we're going to start with Karen Aguilar, be followed by I have a copy here for each of you. If you are interested, I voted in the precinct 203 on November 5, 2024, between 7 and 8 a.m. I walked in without my vote by mail ballot. I asked a vote of precinct ballot and a lady called to verify elections, called elections to verify that I had not voted yet. And when she got off the phone, I was asked to sign the roster next to my name. I voted and then inserted the ballot into the correct box. As of today, the website, where is my ballot.org lists my situation as my vote by mail ballot was mailed on October 7. I have with me on here the stub that I voted, the stub information. And if there was an issue with my signature, I did not receive a phone call or a letter questioning it. I didn't get any information at all from elections. And I just walked over to elections right now and gave them my information and they don't have any information at all that I voted. So I'd like to know where my vote went. I'd like to know where my ballot is. I have been an active voter since I turned 18 years old. And this is the first time that this has ever happened to me. So if you're interested, I will be happy to leave my information with you. OK? Thank you. And you want me to add anything to the clerk there that you want us to see? Yeah. Thank you. Elena, this is you. I'm sorry I was reading that as a D instead of an old. That's my handwriting. Good morning, Chairperson, our number four supervisors, Elena, Nagorno, administrative analyst, administrative ass. I would like to formally amend item number three, which is request to approve a three-year diverse removal stand by agreement. On the transitional page, on the field number 13, so we mistakenly check sets the item requires four fifths vote. We will take your motion to check as this action does not require four fifths vote. Thank you. Great, thank you. And then Sarah Diggs from our real property management is Sarah. Thank you and Sarah will be followed by Mike Brown. Good morning chairperson Arnold and members of the board. I'm Sarah Diggs real property manager with central services for the county. I'm here to make a change to consent item number five. We'd like to amend the item by replacing attachment number nine to include exhibit B. It was inadvertently emitted and I've provided that updated version to the clerk and I'm available for any questions. Great, thank you. Okay, Mike Brown and Michael be followed by Gary Kirkland and Gary, I wanna say I have two slips, both for consent agenda items. So I'm gonna combine those into one and then if you expected to speak, I don't see where Gary is, but expected to speak in public general public comment. You can let me know and we'll use this other slip. Mike Brown. Thank you. The morning Madam Chair board members Mike Brown representing Colab. Speaking to item 14, which is this annual update setting a cap on the number of residential units in the county. I don't know why good update setting a cap on the number of residential units in the county. I don't know why you're spending money and staff time on this thing if you look at the housing element. Well, first of all, this one today sets it around 1336. And ever since this ordinance has existed, you've never hit it. The highest was one year. I think about 490, which was one of the phases of one of the golf communities down there in Pomo that had already been approved. So it was a phase, most of them are 301 a year, 201 so far this year, I think it's about 211. Permits and who knows how many of those actually got built. I think you ought to flip this one on its head and tell yourselves and the staff that any year, you don't hit at least 500, you're gonna replace them. This is, you got the wrong incentive on this. You wanna build more houses and the underlying that problem as we've said for years is you don't plan and zone enough land for home. So that's one. The next one is 15 is the CCR Ren, which is yet another big boondobble green energy program that doesn't really do anything. And this time I would ask you to take a look at Eric Greening's letter. I don't think he's here today to speak to it, but he attached a very short letter and it gives four great reasons why you ought to pull this item and either trail it to discuss it or reschedule it because here you've got a program where you're taxing the people indirectly. So the big utilities are giving $36 million to run this program. There's not a smidge of data here about what it does, what it's done, or anything else. And how does this line up with 3CE now, which is also in this business of giving money out to do various things? And so you need to disentangle that and greening's letters really great on that subject. So I wish you'd take a look at that. Thank you very much and I'm available for any questions. Thank you. Gary Kirkland, our next speaker, and Gary, did you hear my, you have two, and however you want to. Well, I felt out two because I hate trees, so I thought I'd kill another tree, okay? And you're killed here, trees here too, okay? Just make sure you kill enough trees. Okay, I'll speak to both of them. On item 14, the growth rate, I'm gonna echo what Mike Brown just said. This, you have a homeless program which you're spending millions of dollars. Housing prices are too high in this county for most people who can't even live here. I understand the county Department of Education wants to get a zoning change out there where their offices are so they can build houses for their workers because the workers can't afford to live here. And here you are trying at the same time to limit the number of houses that people build and building developments, Mike Brown puts this as a good way, is it's the same as analogy, as stepping on the gas and the break at the same time while you're running your car. What will happen is it will shake it apart. The counties do and all kinds of things to limit growth, raise fees on building, and then low-sows those things you're going to talk about the same time, is things to limit growth, raise fees on building, and the low-sows thing you're going to talk about the same time is trying to limit them up what people can do with their own private property. And at the same time you're trying to build more houses. I think you should look at what you're doing and make sure you're all you're going the same way the same time. On Ivan 15, like again, I'll echo what Mike had to say, the idea that we're giving money to people, for taxing people to give people money, for Southern California Edison, Southern California Edison doesn't provide electricity in this county because back in the 30s, this state gave monopolies to utility companies, electric companies through the rural electrification program. So if we're not even, if Southern California isn't even in this county, why are we giving them money? And we shouldn't be giving them money. And the state's got a deficit, the county's got a deficit. Let's cut this program and not do it. Thank you very much. Thank you. Our next speaker, Darsha Stebans, and Darsha followed by Elena Cannell, our county clerk, recorder. Good morning, Darsha Stebans. Here speaking on election integrity, specifically item number 33, on the consent agenda regarding the declaration of the certification of the November 5th election. I wanted to just let the supervisors know and the elections department know that there were many things that happened at this election that went well, and there were many things that didn't go so well. And I just want to remind everyone, as I have done many times, of Article 4, Section 4 of our U.S. Constitution, that says that the state of California is to provide, and every other state, is to provide a Republican form of government, meaning a representative form of government, freedom from invasion, and that includes invasion at our ballot box and domestic tranquility. So I just wanted to describe a few other things that happened in this election. There were polling places that were moved. People had voted for 50 years at a Creston polling place. They were moved to a taskadero. That is 10 to 15 miles away. They actually had to drive past the Creston polling place in order to get to a taskadero Methodist Church. And past the county clerk recorder's office also in a taskadero. We also had people from the dresser valley, dresser ranch area, that normally voted in pass robles that had to drive to a taskadero, had to drive to Creston, also about 10 miles away. The only reasons why they might go to Creston would be for the loading shoot to have a drink or two, dinner to the long branch to have a drink or two or to the Creston rodeo. We also had people that were in South pass robles just outside the city limits that had to drive 10 to 15 miles to San Miguel, passed at least three or four other polling locations, including their old polling location. Now you might think that this is only happening in North County, but there were polling locations changed in South County as well. I wanted to also remind people that we had the shandoned precinct that was completely shut down, even though 200 plus emails went out to people that wanted to be precinct workers, that were told that there were enough people, the overwhelming response, and that they didn't need them to be a precinct worker. It was shut down because of staffing. Then they went to Creston at Creston. There was a power outage at 6.30 at night. People were then told, you can go to, and they were voting by flashlight. Then they were told, well told you can go to, and they were voting by flashlight. Then they were told, well, you can go to the Etasca Darryl City Library, upstairs at the county clerk's office to be able to vote. And there they were running out of ink so that they couldn't print the precinct ballots. Precinct workers, thank you very much. I encourage you to consider not certifying and declaring this election. Thank you, Darsha. Alrighty. And Elena Cano and that concludes my request to speak. Are there any more requests to speak? I thought I saw a few folks filling out. So if you want to speak on these items, I can send. Bring a slip up. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to stand before you. Excuse me. And express my gratitude, so sorry, to how well this election was conducted. And how many people that I owe my thank yous to this election was obviously one for the books. It was one of the highest turnouts I think it's second highest that we've ever had in this county. We finished at 85% which brought our county the fourth highest out of 58 counties in this state. So something super proud to be of with our county and our voters. We had over 600 poll workers, 28 adopt a poll organizations that volunteered. In addition to that, we had county staff that helped us out on election day as well as election night. And those folks that did that did that on a voluntary basis and with the approval of their department heads. And I don't know if there's ever an event that happens in this county where county employees actually volunteered to participate in any one event instead of being mandated if there was an emergency and such. So I would like to thank our county staff and the Department heads of the Library, Public Health, Probation, Weights and Measures, the Assessor's Office, Central Services, Parks, Auditor and the Health Agency. That's a lot. That's a lot of our county staff that gave up their time in order to assist us with this election. We also had 22 temporary election office workers that are here, time and time again enduring all the stress, time, effort that it takes to conduct this election as well. We have this year we had eight precinct assistance in which they are the conduits on election day that go out and assist the polling places and communicate back to our office. And this year we actually had our very own public works director John Diadotti serve as one of those precinct assistants. So I'm super proud of that. And of course our staff is small it's easy for me to be able to say that this was a difficult job but without these of work to do with the community. We're going to have a lot of local job but without these folks that are here with us today, we can never make it possible. So super proud of the work that we did for this election. Thank you. Okay. I don't have any other request to speak. So on consent items. So we're going to go ahead and close public comment on consent agenda items and ask the board members if they have anything they want to pull and I'll start to my right to me. No items to pull just a question for staff on consent agenda, consent agenda item four and then comment on 22 and comment on 33. 422 and 33, right? They hear that right. OK. Supervisor Prasha. Yeah, I have a comment on 2, on 14, 15, and 17. OK. Supervisor Tislay. Good morning. I would like to ask Trevor Keith to come up on item 15 just to clarify a few things. Thank you. Okay. Supervisor Gibson. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll go comment on item 33. All right, and for me, 15 and 33 comments. And actually, I'd like to pull 33 for a separate vote, please. So then, I've got a few other things going on here. Well, we'll go ahead and do this and then when we get ready to vote, we'll have a few housekeeping items. So let's start with supervisor Paul Dane, item number four. Thank you, Chair. Item number four is our financial report, but one of the attachments is our capital improvement program and there's some changes that it makes to that program. I just had a clarification for our public work staff on the South County traffic study that is currently ongoing as well as the Nexus fee study program and the current report here in the agenda says that it won't be complete until the second quarter of fiscal year 2026. But I'm gonna look for a, based on discussions, I've had with staff already. Look for a thumbs up that it should be complete. September 2025, that is in fact the correct date. All right, I've got a thumbs up from staff. We can let the record reflect that. And did you want me to move on to consent agenda item 22 or we're gonna go Can I jump I'm sorry I called on you first went actually supervisor Pashon would like to make a comment on item two Yeah, item two is regards to the solid waste rate increases. That's not today I was incorrect on the radio for you listening to KPRL down the hill this morning They said the vote was today. It's actually going to be scheduled for February 4th. So this is just a request to set that public hearing. You can continue with 14, 15, and 17. We have some. Well, 14 and 15. Yeah, so the growth rate and Mike Brown from Colab was very clear about this. We've never actually hit our growth rate. I believe, though, I want to ask a question of our CAO. I believe this is a state law that says that we have to do set this limit each year. Is that correct? So, guys, it's Sean, that's my understanding. Yes, okay. So, but just so you know, we do set a pretty high limit on housing and we have not actually ever hit the number ever in the history of the county. The next one is the fifth, which is the funding agreement with Southern California Edison, which takes a fourth-fifth vote. I would be open to pushing this into the new year and having a full discussion on it, instead of voting on it today. I think there's a lot of questions from the community. I've gotten a lot of calls about it and take it off consent, put it with the new board that comes in February and have a discussion. I don't believe there's any time limit on it, so I'll give it that. On 15. You're asking for a separate vote. Oh, a separate vote. So, or if they want to make a most, somebody wants to make a motion to push it off this agenda and move it to a future agenda. Okay. We have a couple other comments and then we'll take that up. Suffice for a taste like that. Yeah. Thank you. Good morning, everyone. So I think it is, I don't know about a delaying the vote, but because it is such a significant amount of money, and we have so many energy programs that have acronyms that often confuse folks and how it works and everything. I want to take a stab at just having Trevor Keith come up please and kind of give us a couple of sentences here in regards to what the REN program is and why this one is so large and why Southern California Edison, even though we do have Edison, they're my gas supplier here in San Luis Obispo. So Edison does cut some of this territory. So anyway, to ever if you wouldn't mind kind of seeing if we can get people to understand how this works and what it means as far as Benefits to the community. Yeah, no absolutely. Thank you. So Trevor Keith planning building director so the The California the Central California rural regional energy network. So that's been a collaboration with 13 other counties So it's not just for our county. It extends into the valley, extends to the east side of the series, it extends to us north, and to Monterey, Santa Cruz, and San Benito County. And I think just to clarify some things, so these regional energy networks, they're paid through the California Public Utility Commission, the CPUC. and so those funds for energy efficiency are aggregated based on everybody's, everybody has a line item on their bill that collects this money. It is then distributed through the state of California for energy efficiency programs, for workforce training, and for education, for contractors, for architects, for engineers. And so we applied for this with our partnership to try to bring additional programs here to our county as well as within the territory again going into the valley to the east side and to our northern partners. Edison is our fiscal agent. They really have nothing to do with this program. It's just how the state has set up the pass through of money. So essentially, they on a quarterly basis would pay us our quarterly share to run these programs. So in front of you today, we brought a previous item to your board in October, kind of outlining these programs today. It's really the contracts to launch these programs. So we've gone out for bid. We've selected competitively with our Central Services Department here at the county to bring on consultants to run the programs and again, territory wide. So today your vote is really to just allow us to begin these programs and again, there's no data today because we're just launching the programs. Within a year every year we report back to you this board as well as the state on the progression of these programs. We have metrics on energy efficiency, the different trainings that we need. It's all lined out that we will again report back to your board on the success of those metrics. Anybody else have any questions? If I may. Yeah. I think that the one thing that people often don't understand is that people in the workforce that are working in energy upgrades, you know, if you get a new furnace, air conditioning, et cetera, in your home, that you, that there are new rules that they must amend to. And this is a tool, this is a toolkit to help people do that, as one example of what this program does. And I know that taking the time, I spent a morning with the REN program, we had everybody come here, I think it's been a couple of years. And basically it was all contractors. It was the majority of the people that attended were contractors that needed to understand the new ratings and how to use different technologies as technology continues to evolve in this sector. So that was my experience. And I don't know, I'll stop there. And maybe we'll see if we can other questions. Tyde, one follow follow a question on that. I know we talked a little bit yesterday in our meeting about the, how to avoid duplication of services with 3C-REN. Could you just explain a little bit of that? Yeah, absolutely. So we're a part of another regional energy network with Santa Barbara and Ventura County. And so within the programs, so the utilities provide programs, we provide programs to the regional energy network. So this new program has additional programs. There's no duplication in programs. That's one of the state requirements of these programs. So the programs that we're bringing into the county, we do not currently have. And so there's a public agency program and then a fiscal program that would be in addition to the other ones served by the 3C Ren, which currently provide other codes and standards workforce development and some other agriculture programs that are available. Thank you. Yeah. Supervisor Gibson. Yeah, and if I might, I'd like to emphasize that the rural Ren in this county will provide support to agriculture both in terms of energy efficiency and job training opportunities to work on improved energy efficiency within the ag sector. So it's directly beneficial to our growers and farmers, is that correct? Yeah, there'll be programs available to, yes, to the agriculture community, yeah, poor energy efficiency and training on the different technologies that are out there. And Trevor, I just wanted to ask, if today if we choose to have you do a presentation say next port meaning or something are you on a tight deadline with this vote? So we want to try to launch because we are for the metrics that are outlined by this you know that have been agreed to in our business plan by the state we have to report out on an annual basis so the sooner we can get going, the sooner we can kind of hit our metrics that we need to delay in this, it's just, yeah, we'll have to reach back to the consultants and slow the work that's been done down. But I'm just talking a week. Is that a, is that do you have a hard, hard deadline that you have to sign some contract or something. The contracts are kind of teed up for your signature today. Yeah, I mean, we can postpone it. It's, yeah, I mean, the... That's all I was asking. And then I just want to ask, when you're talking a little bit of the duplication, not that... I'm not the person to say which of these programs or which of the many programs are better, one than another, but there are other programs. I know for sure for the agriculture and things like that. So there are different programs available in different paths of programs. Yeah. Besides this. Yeah, there's other programs and I think our programs look to layer on top of if there's existing programs, layer on top of those to allow folks to get essentially the greatest bang for the buck. Yeah, so I see lights on, but I don't think any other questions of 15. I was, no, I don't have any other questions. You know, I'm willing to do whatever. I think it's an important program, but you know, it is a complex and it's a lot of money. And so people have questions. So my comments before we started, Trevor, you don't have to stay. I don't have to stay up here with us. But I just was planning on just saying that my concern on 15 was, it's a lot of money. I'm not real fond of the fact that all of our taxpayers, ratepayers, constituents have to pay a line item in their energy bills to pay for this program. But that's already a done deal. So after that, we could say since it's already happening at the state level, we might as well as a county be able to take advantages of these programs. But on the other hand, I saw there's a PowerPoint. You all had a presentation. You have one already teed up to go. It was in the court agenda. Am I right, Trevor? I saw it was it item 15 that has some slides that went with it. No, maybe I was looking at something else. I thought it was never mind. No. Yeah, not. OK. Never mind no yeah, okay, so I think what we're interested in doing supervisor for showing did you want to make? I just thought if we could bring it back next week in the afternoon and have a discussion about it I think you know, I'm not against this program. I think it actually is worked out in many areas We've had a discussion about Northern California. I just want to make sure that we've fully vetted it So I just asked it or be brought back and put on the agenda to the future time. Hopefully we could do it. Could we do it as the CAO if we could get it in there on next Tuesday? Supervisor, we have a agenda next week that allows us to finish a little bit early next week. But I happy to do anything the board prefers. Thank you. And I think it could even be a morning item. I don't know. We might work. I'd like it to be in an afternoon like a six hour. That's perfect. We're going to arrange that as well. Calling the grand chapter this. Okay, so we have a motion. I'll second your motion and we'll ask for a roll call vote please. Madam Chair, I'll just... Sure. There's no reason to delay this. We've just discussed it extensively within the board, including closed session. The steps that have taken a place for us to get in here, get to where we are with this are should be well understood to this board and I see no reason but pretty clear that we're not going to get fear for this vote so I'm not going to object to it but I think think this is a, a, a, a, a, a, politely said an inefficient use of board and public time. Okay, so we'll go ahead and do the roll call vote on the motion to bring this item back for presentation next week. Supervisor Pshong? Yes. Chairperson Arnold? Yes. Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Supervisor Teasley? Yes. And Super Arnold? Yes. Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Supervisor Teesley? Yes. And supervisor Paul D. Yes. Great. Thank you. Supervisor Pashank 17. 17. You have comments? No. Just for an item, this is an item. We bring back a lot of different things on the Nassimino pipeline. And I just wanted, just another one. So I just wanted everybody to know that we are staying on top of the situation. Nassimino pipeline has had a number of breaks in it. And we spend a lot of staff time dealing with it, but we'll just keep pounding them down. Okay, so your advice are Pauline, 22? Thank you, yeah, this item relates to homeless services and it's more of just a comment to staff I know that we have a larger presentation next week from homeless services But as it relates to the Santa Maria Riverbed in Camping, I think enough that we're doing a bunch of community groups Throughout their churches really trying to continue to outreach efforts Even though most of the clearing has been completed and they need blue but blue bags that they can use then to get the homeless folks to help clean up. And so I hope that that comes back in the conversation next week when we get a report from our homeless services division. Thank you so much. Okay, and that looks like that. So, and I've asked for 33 to be pulled for separate votes. We'll take that up in just a moment. And go ahead and vote on the rest of our consent agenda. Oh, should I move to approve the consent agenda items 1 through 32? Okay, just hang on one second because we have, this is just all that paperwork detail. But we have to do motion. Motion number one needs to be separate. So you want to go ahead and make a motion to- I'll make a motion to approve item one. Okay. Second. Okay, so we'll get a real column item one separately. Please. Supervisor or Teesleg? Yes. Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Supervisor Pashong? Yes. Supervisor Paul Dean? Yes. And Chairperson Arnold? Yes. So then. And then I'll hear your motion. But it would be 2 through 32 with the exception of item 15. Second. Okay. 26 plus 33. Wait. Except 33. Except 33. Right. Second as amended. Okay. Supervisor T's lay. Yes. Supervisor Gibson. Yes. Supervisor Pashong. I'm sorry to be asking for the right answer. Okay. Supervisor T's. Yes. Supervisor Gibson. Yes. Supervisor Pashong. Yes. Supervisor Paul Dean. Yes. In charge of personnel. Arnold. Yes. Did we. I'm sorry to reassist, but we knew we pulled item 15. Correct. On that last moment. New add comments. Thank you. Yeah. This is the certification of the election results. I just wanted to extend a big note of appreciation to our county clerk recorder staff for all the hard work that they've done and especially the election division and all our election poll workers, everybody who volunteers to make this happen. And obviously we had a very successful election outcome based on how many voters voted. So thank you so much for all the hard work Supervisor Gibson Thank you, Madam Chair as my colleagues know I just Completed my term as the president of the California State Association at counties and in that role over the last 12 months I've had a chance to to Visit all over the state. A couple of observations, as regards our election staff, there is none better. And I first wanted to add my deep appreciation to you, Ms. Cano, and your staff and your volunteers for outstanding work. It is a difficult time in our civic life in this country and I am continually impressed with the dedication, the resolve, the equanimity that your staff brings to this fundamental part of our democracy. I've seen that all over the state as well. And it was for that reason, it was my deep honor to present the CSAC's President's Award to all 58 of registrars of voters and their staffs in the state of California. And that was an extraordinary experience to be able to celebrate that the week before November. These folks have persevered through outlandish assaults by deeply misguided members of our public and they have turned out an outstanding result in our election. Married to that was also CSAC presenting a Distinguished Service Award to Secretary of State, Dr. Shirley Weber, who has been a tremendous partner with counties in supporting our efforts, which are our responsibilities to run these elections. And so, again, let me express my deep gratitude and my absolute awe of the work that you all have done. Thank you, and I hope you get to rest as this election is certified. Even as there will be those who pander to those deeply misguided folks who seek to undermine the integrity. Thank you. So did you want to say something? I do. Yeah, thank you very much, Madam Chair. folks who seek to undermine the integrity. Thank you. So did you want to say something? I do. Yeah, thank you very much, Madam Chair. I do want to also say thank you to all that have done so much to keep our elections fair and accurate and all the things that go on. I was there when Supervisor Gibson did give the President's Award, recognizing all the state officers and yourself. And it was pretty moving. People who had been involved in elections for their entire lives, watching their parents have voting in their living rooms and things that have gone on for the history of this country. And just what a remarkable effort that you made. And so thank you for that. Also, thank you for dealing with the fact that technology again has changed. I think this is one of the biggest problems that we have in our society. Not that it's bad to have new technologies and tools, but we're continually evolving. And it's often challenging for a lot of us to understand why things are the way they are today and not the way they used to be. And so thank you for managing all of that because I know there's a great deal of change that has occurred within the voting system and it's often questioned. And so just really we're very proud of you and just want to say thank you. Great. And I pulled this for a separate vote. I'm sure this will pass. But first of all, I want to thank all the people that are here today and all the people that are just listening and all the people that helped with the election because it is a heavy lift. It's a lot of hard work and it takes, it's a lot of long hours. All of you in the audience today, thank you so much. And for the folks that just volunteered to work at their local polling place or worked as a poll watcher, just the citizens that were somehow involved in helping the election outcome, I thank you all. I don't plan on voting for this today as I did not in the last election of the 22 election. I didn't vote to declare the results of the election. And that is simply because I am very concerned. I've said it for a long time now about our election process. Not about the people that are working the elections. You have to work under the rules and the laws that are presented to you. But in 2021, I was concerned back then, and this board, actually the board at the time, voted to continue as much as we could around the state laws, but continue to vote with our traditional neighborhood polling places, which back in 21, amounted to 76 scattered throughout the county. And our choice was to go, move, consolidate all of that into 20 voter service centers. So this board had a long discussion. Many of you know, I represent the fifth district, but I live in a more rural part of the county. And I know how that is. It, more rural part of the county. And I know how that is. It was mentioned by one of the speakers. Some people have voted the same place for 50 years. They're used to going to their local school, their local church, wherever it is, and voting. And I thought that was important to continue those traditions. As COVID hit, we know we had state laws, we had election rules change, and everyone now receives a vote by mail ballot. So for me, if it was up to me, I would want to return to pre-pandemic voting procedures, the traditional polling places, and the mail-in ballot by request. I've been a long time, almost my whole life, a mail-in voter, but still it took an identification and a request for me to have that ballot mail to myself. So I'm a big proponent of voter ID. I'm trying to ensure that it's American citizens voting and the right number of citizens voting in the right places. And I would like to return to that. So under the presently under the election processes that we're using, I just don't believe that it's possible to have a really an accurate count. So I'll stop talking and we'll go ahead and we'll call for the vote. I'm sorry. Yep. So just real quickly so we're not holding up the vote. I will vote for this today to certify the election because I have not been presented with any evidence that shown that this election was, there was problems with this election. I will say, though, however, and this is in contrary, I don't agree with the Tribune this morning that said that there was no disenfranchisement. We had a situation in Shannon where we had to hold a close up polling location at 12, 23 in the afternoon because people couldn't show up. So I just wanted to throw this out there that I am willing and happy to work with the clerk's office to be able to find volunteers that can run that polling location so we can keep it open till 8 o'clock. What happened, itene was these individuals had to go to shand, or to all the way down to Creston from Shandon, and when they got down there, the power was out. So I've also will help find an electrician. So we can get the electrician to maybe get the power on with the generator at the Creston location, a couple of my constituents who complained to me about this had to vote using a flashlight because it was seven o'clock at night. I don't think that this was a conspiracy. I just think that we probably had some volunteers that didn't show up. And we also had a PG&Eing outage, which probably many of you in this room have had to deal with in the past, at least in the last couple of years. So you understand we're talking about. But I think working together we can fix the problems. Also, I'd like to point out too that we had this discussion for the last three years about the voting machine, the machine that counts the votes. And I think that in every county that this machine works in, it was certified and it actually worked out pretty well, having talked to a number of county clerks and people. So I think you're going to be, and this is going to be, this is going to be a tough one, but from the federal government, you're going to get a voter ID mandate. It's probably coming. So we're going to have to deal with that. And because we've changed the way we vote in this country, in this state so many times, it takes a while to get used to the process. And that's why, the county of Ventura can count ballots in 10 days because they've got a lot bigger budget and a lot bigger staff and so they can roll through them. But I want to understand kind of where the mistakes, and I don't say there's a lot of mistakes, but there were some mistakes made. Maybe it was not having backups for Shandon, but we need to be able to fix them so the next time that we don't have the situation. So thank you. Great. So at that, we'll ask for a roll call vote. I'll move approval of item 33. Second. And under discussion, Madam Chair, that there's going to be a dissenting vote to this ministerial action by the Board of Supervisors is pure pandering to the misguided individuals that I referenced earlier. And frankly, it's an embarrassment to this board and to this county. Well, thank you for those comments. Supervisor Gibson is not my intent to embarrass. I represent constituents in this county. And the, as I said, it has nothing to do with my friends that work the polls, all these nice folks that work the polls it has to do with changing some of the processes that are relatively new to the election process itself. So with that, we'll ask for a roll call. Please. Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Supervisor Teesley? Yes. Supervisor Pashon? Yes. Supervisor Paul D? Yes. Interpreter's in Arnold. No. Okay. Thank you for all that and we're going to move to item number 23 and start the formal presentations. Thanks for your patience to the audience. If you're here for a presentation, our presentations, I'll give it just one second for the folks to be able to move around. Thank you. I don't know who's coming up. Must be. Okay. Take just a minute to finish the shift. And we're gonna, this item number 23, a resolution recognizing Michael Manuel up for 35 years of service with the County of San Luis Obispo. We're gonna call to the podium, Michael and the sheriff or the sheriff's representative, please. to read this resolution commending Commander Michael Manuel for 35 years of service to the county of San Luis Obispo. Whereas Michael Manuel has served the county of San Luis Obispo without interruptions since July 2nd 1989 in accomplishing 35 years of employment. And whereas Michael Manuel starting out as a sheriff's cadet, was promoted to deputy sheriff in November 1989 to senior deputy in September of 1999, sergeant in April 2007, and then promoted to commander in April 2017, where he currently oversees the sheriff's north station in Templeton. And whereas Michael is described as a valued and exemplary employee, who is dependable, compassionate, and embodies professionalism. And whereas Michael displays integrity and can always be counted on to complete the task or mission efficiently while representing the Sheriff's Office and County at the highest level. And whereas Michael works extremely well with the community and partner agencies, his professionalism and commitment to the community have had a positive impact on the community's view of law enforcement. And whereas Michael continues to demonstrate excellence and dedication in his current assignment and his thoughtful approach to his decisions and assignments has benefited the citizens of San Luis Obispo County. Now therefore, be it resolved and ordered by the Board of Supervis Obispo County. Now therefore, be it resolved in order by the board of supervisors of the County of San Luis Obispo State of California that Michael Manuel B and hereby is commended for his 35 years of dedication to the county mission. It also resolved that Michael Manuel is wish the best of health, happiness, and good fortune in his continued service and beyond. Thank you. The 30 points of our Christmas. Thank you. Thank you. Let me grab the photo up here. Is there anybody else you'd like to have come forth with you, sir? Is Mrs. Manuel or anybody else here who's the whole Bring them Oh, you're up next. It's going to be awfully lonely here when you get done with this. We're going to put you right here. Thank you. Did you hear Matt? That's everyone. Take smiles right over here. Three, two, one. One, two, one. Three, two, one. Thank you. Thank you. There we go. Southern fan. I'll get into that second. Wow. You look good. Dance male. One more. One, two, one. One. I think we have our under Sheriff Chad Nicholson here. Good morning everybody. Under Sheriff Chad Nicholson, filling in for Sheriff Parkinson who wanted to give his Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. to Michael. Michael is the gold standard of what any organization would want in an employee, especially a law enforcement organization. I mean, what he stands for, his morals, his integrity, his professionalism, empathy, compassion, he's mentored in an unbelievable amount of employees for us at the Sheriff's Office. And it doesn't matter what rank you are, but especially somebody in supervisory or at the management rank, we always look for somebody that can suit, not just supervise, but mentor, guide, lead, motivate, direct. And that's what Michael's done his whole career. I've had the pleasure of working for Michael and working with Michael my entire career. And he's a phenomenal leader. I think back to when it was some of the most difficult times for not just our organization but our county in 2020 and 2021 through the pandemic. And we had a numerous officer involved shootings, we had multiple deputies that were shot, one of which was Michael's deputy out of the North station. And I'll never forget when he came into my office at the detective division. And did we discuss the case a little bit and mainly resources for the deputy and their family and so on. And he was very, very emotional rightfully so. And this is when he had 30 plus years on. And he said, Chad, I don't know how much longer I can do this. And I asked him, I said, why are you still doing it? And he said, I can't leave now. I care too much about the people. I care too much about the community. And there's no way I could walk away now, even though I know all of his family was asking him to walk away. So it's all of us are more difficult to replace than others, and we're truly, truly going to miss you. Thank you. I'll ask right now if there were any other comments at the podium here? Anyone? They all want to say something. Everyone's tongue tied. Right. Yeah. It's just not appropriate in this form. Yeah. May I take it in for a minute? Absolutely. Madam Clerk, cut me off when appropriate. I am quite emotional. It's amazing to reach this point in a career, especially a law enforcement career. Something as difficult and as hard as can be out there. It takes a special person to do this job, to protect values of our community, to protect people. Sometimes at the detriment of our families, the people we love, our friends, who are sitting at home, wondering when, or if we will get home. It is challenging, it's also very rewarding. I have had many challenges over my career, some self-deserved, others, as mentioned, kneeling beside a deputy whose severely injured from being shot. Talk into an officer who has just been involved in a shooting in trying to reassure them that they did the right thing. I appreciate all the sheriffs that I have worked for. Sheriff Ed Williams, for taking a risk to hire me. Sheriff Pat Hedges, for his vice in mentorship and promoting me. Sheriff Ian Parkinson, for not promoting me, for passing me up, and then coming back and promoting me the next time. I could go on, I would like to thank everybody individually, but there are too many people in this room that thank, but you know in my heart the amount that I've done, we cannot do our job without the support of people. I haven't achieved 35 years on my own. I have had a family, parents who raised me correctly, a wife who has supported me, who has waited for me to come home every night. And I did. Children, children who have endured having a father work in their same community and endured their harassment because I was in law enforcement. My friends, my families, my co-workers, the people at the academy, they got me through the academy, my partners. There, all the senior deputies, deputies, trainings, everything. We may not have been partners in a car, but we have been partners in a career. And I am eternally grateful for having this opportunity. Would I do it again? Absolutely in a heartbeat. It goes by in the blink of an eye. But I would do it again. I don't have the time to do it again. But I would. I would if I could. Lastly, as law enforcement, our responsibility was to take care of the communities. It is one of the best communities that we have, not only in the state, but in the country. We need to take care of our personnel to make sure that they can thrive in this community, that they can afford housing, that they can make it to retirement and serve 35 years as I have. Thank you Madam Chair. It's pretty awesome dude indeed. That's a great question. Thank you Madam Chair. It's pretty awesome, dude, indeed. That's been my absolute honor and pleasure to work with Commander Manueli, since I think before it was Commander, but he came to the coast station and for reasons unknown abandon us to North County. But you saw there the heart of a public servant and a law enforcement public servant. But you also got a little glimpse of his the humor that Michael brings to the community. And he follows in a proud tradition of our Sheriff's Department starting with Marty Bastie and others who have been among the community in times that are not of crisis and that Groundwork and that time and that commitment that you have spent in front of advisory councils and other community gatherings is inspiring and invaluable and it has been my pleasure to be with you so many times. I must confess to a certain amount of whiplash. I hadn't read to the bottom of the resolution before I started reciting it. And as I got to the bottom it didn't say anything about retirement. So my hopes soared. And yet as Michael came to receive it, he tells me that that date is near upon us. And so I'm, I've cratered now. I don't know that I can continue, except to say thank you, sir, for all you've done. Thank you. Surprise our tea's like. Thank you. Well, thank you. You really said it all. I mean, it was a beautiful statement of your purpose and your dedication and reminding us of all that an individual goes through in the service of your work. I want to thank your family and your wife. I really felt that moment about coming home at night and just all the sacrifice that you've made. I really do think that this speech is something that needs to be at the Academy for young ones to see because you are embodied right there. Everything that we hope and dream of somebody that serves in your position. And we really are just grateful and I can imagine they are going to miss you so much and we all are. So have a great time. Thanks. So, friends, are Paul Tene? Thank you, Chair. I'm watching the faces of the people who are going to, you know, work behind you after you've left and I can tell that they all respect you and you've earned that trust and respect and your comments reflected that as well. And thank you for setting the standard for everybody behind you to aspire to. You've made our community a safer and better place. Enjoy your retirement. I want to thank you for abandoning the coast. Because it sucks. Appreciate you. On all you've done, the empathy you had for the people of North County for San Miguel and Shandon, Creston, Templeton, Passa Robles, all the areas that we represent. So thank you for all of your hard work on their behalf. And thank you for your service to this county. I do believe with Chad that you are the gold standard. So thank you. And Michael, I just want to say thank you to you as well. It's great to have your beautiful family here today. All your co-workers, but since we're both retiring, we can say whatever we want, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to thank you for all these years. Your dedication was always so obvious, but maybe so important to me. You understand this county and you love this county, and all parts of the county, and all the differences and all the diversity throughout the county you you were just a wonderful asset to law enforcement and I just want you to know I think it's people like you that make our county what it is so I want to wish you just a happy and fun retirement and I'm sure you'll have a chance now to do things that can really get a way to do before. So, thank you. Absolutely. If you put a box, I'll be tearing up. Remember, you can get my off. That's it. All righty. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. And with that, we are going to move on in our agenda to item number 24. And item number 24 is a resolution recognizing 10 years of the CalWORK Housing Support Program, and we are going to call to the podium, Jenny Hart, and ask supervisor Paul Dane to read the resolution. Thank you, Madam Chair, it'll be my pleasure. This is a resolution celebrating 10 years of CalWORKS housing support program. Whereas the County of San Luis Obispo Department of Social Services strives to help families and CalWORKS to achieve self-sufficiency, stability, and safety. In 2014, they identified a housing need and had the opportunity to develop the cow works, housing support program, to support our community's current and former homeless families. And whereas, this rapid rehousing assistance program known as Housing Support Program, through partnership with community-based organizations, connects families to critical resources and a landlord navigator. And whereas the County of San Luis Bispo established this program as a unique public-private partnership between the County Department of Social Services and the Family Care Network in 2015, which exemplifies effective collaboration and cooperation. And whereas the contracted partner, successfully enrolls, supports, and provides educational tools and budgeting, successful tenancy, and landlord communication, offers financial assistance, and housing-related wraparound support services, including but not limited to rental assistance, housing navigation, case management, security deposits, utility payments, moving costs, interim shelter assistance, legal services, and credit repair. And whereas the housing support program has positively impacted our county's homeless families having housed 799 families and providing case management to over a thousand families in their pursuit of permanent housing including eviction prevention support for 101 families and whereas the housing support program has been a key component and Effectively ensuring that our counties homeless families have increased opportunities that will enhance their ability to successfully become self-sufficient, helping them achieve their housing stability goals and becoming productive and thriving members of our community. With the success in this program, it allowed us to successfully implement the bringing families home program, focusing on child welfare families and family reunification and family maintenance, where housing is a barrier and to date have served 260 families. Now therefore be it resolved and ordered that the Board of Supervisors of the County of San Los Obispo State of California does hereby congratulate and honor the unique public private partnership between the County Department of Social Services and Family Care Wet Network for successfully providing the Cal Works Housing Support Program and bringing families home program to current and former families in San Lisbon County for the last 10 years and for empowering these families to follow their dreams, achieve success and live and improve quality of life and permanent housing. Thank you. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. I'm going to have to go to the office. Everybody shift down. Keep shifting. Keep shifting. Keep shifting. Stop. Right thing. There we go. Okay. All right, big smiles right over here. Three, two, one. And one more. Three, two, perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And the podium is yours. Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the board. I'm Christina Chow, Deputy Director of Social Services. Thank you for the opportunity to celebrate our county's accomplishments with the housing support program these past 10 years. I would like to introduce one of my managers, Jenny Hart, who will share more information about the housing support program. Jenny, along with Laura, we're the original co-authors of the proposal that brought the housing support program to this county 10 years ago. Thank you. Here's Jenny. Good morning, Madam Chair and honorable members of the Board of Supervisors. My name is Jenny Hart. I'm a division manager for the participant services branch at social services. Thank you for recognizing the amazing work from the last 10 years of the CalWORK's housing support program. As Christina mentioned, I have the pleasure of implementing our county's first CalWORK's Housing Support Program in 2014. I've now had the pleasure and pride of watching its expansion and continued growth over the last decade. To date, as mentioned, this program is housed 799 families and prevented 101 pending evictions. Just for a little context, we were one of the very first few counties to be selected to pilot the CalWORK's housing support program. We competed for $20 million from the first round of state funding that was available to all 58 counties. Thanks to our homeless services division, which only included Laura Weir at that time. We were able to convey a clear picture of our local housing needs. And thanks to our hardworking and caring staff coupled with the strong collaborations we already held with partner agencies and the confidence of this board. We were able to prove we were a safe bet to develop and implement a comprehensive eviction prevention and rapid re-housing program. Quickly. The County of Slow was awarded just over $1 million out of that $20 million for all 58 counties. The focus for this award was to create a housing program for CalWORK's families, which for those that do not know is California's TANF program or cash assistance for families. CalWORKS includes a monthly cash amount, but also depending on eligibility criteria, it also includes employment services, education, childcare, and referrals for support in the areas of parenting, mental health, substance abuse, and domestic abuse. But there was not a housing-specific component until this time. The objective was to use an evidence-based rapid rehousing practice. We adopted a housing-first model, which was a pretty radical concept at the time. It meant setting unhoused people up with permanent housing without pre-conditions, such as full-time employment, mandatory treatment programs, sustained sobriety, or other requirements. This approach highlighted the need for stable, secure housing above all, which then would serve as a solid foundation for further support and engagement with the rest of our services and referrals. This is an evidence-based model that many housing programs are built around now, but it was a little newer back then, and it has worked really well for us. Another key to the success of this program has been the ongoing collaboration of our department with other partner agencies, namely, most of all, Family Care Network, who has been partnering with us since 2015. Everyone working together to address the family's housing instability first, without preconditions before focusing on other barriers is essential. Early on, we implemented client-centered strategies and wraparound services such as assigning housing case managers when they entered the program, who will go and meet with the families where they are, empowering the families to drive their own housing case plans. We have continued to modify and improve the program over the years, adding support such as housing and landlord navigators as well as parent partners for individualized support. Another enhancement to the program is the level and duration of after care families, of after care families receive after permanent housing is obtained so that the family can continue sustaining their units. It takes strong partnerships, collaboration, and communication with partners, such as Family Care Network, Haslow, Five Cities Homeless Coalition, Echo, Lumenelle Alliance, and Forty Proto to achieve the success. It also takes innovative thinking and resourcefulness. Our community partners, including Family Care Network and Housing Authority, have made, have many more resources that have helped us with creative ways to provide services to our families. Examples of these resources include transitional housing and specialized housing choice vouchers. My colleague, Jeanine Lampert, who cannot be present today, spearheaded this program since her involvement in 2017. And I'd like to acknowledge your hard work for this impressive, for these impressive outcomes. As she has stated, it really does take a village and we have a really great team, as you saw in the picture there. So many people collaborate to support the families that qualify for these services. Namely, our Employment Resource Specialist, Fore staff and supervisors in their units do an exceptional job referring and working with our community partners to serve these families. Also, those that work behind the scenes like our program review specialists and IT programers, Marie Belin with Family Care Network and all of their dedicated staff and Annablais, our DSS program manager over this program who only has a few more days till retirement as well. I'd also like to share that the California Department of Social Services recently recognized our county for its overall innovation and successful HSP program. Special recognition was given from a computer application created by our DSS IT programmers that serves as a referral process and an ongoing communication and data collection tool. This innovation early on aided in making our ongoing collaboration seamless and possible. Of course, those that deserve the most credit for the success of this program are the resilient parents that despite multiple barriers have persevered and shown strength and determination to follow the program and utilize the services that are available, social services, and in this community, to start fresh new chapters for their lives and families. Thank you again, esteemed board for recognizing all of our efforts today. I'd like to hand it over to Jeff Carlson, CEO with Family Care Network for some closing remarks on this resolution. Thanks again. Thank you, Jenny. Madam Chair, Board of Supervisors. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you to the Board of Supervisors for this program. It is a great collaborative program. We had a training earlier in the year. collaborative with the county, collaborative with all the partners and other agencies that we're serving along with. I'd like to also thank our VAMICARE Network Board for their support and encouragement as we guide and lead this organization as we serve the community. Special thank you to Devon and his team for Anna. We will miss you. But she has been just a huge partner to us and our staff and Marie can speak into that more. And we are excited to continue to work with Jenny as well. I am merely the spokesperson today for Amnaker Network. There are staff that do this work and I want to acknowledge them. So our staff I love this definition from Jim Collins of a great leader. It's through a professional will and I'm sorry personal humiliation professional will and Marie and her team Marie, if you could stand up, that'd be great. Haley and where's Dustin? I saw Dustin. These are our leaders of this program. They do an amazing job guiding their staff. It is not an easy population. And we do great work in working with that population, who are either experiencing homelessness or risk of homelessness, and we really help them get into that transitional housing and back on their feet and stable. So great work. And then our other staff, we have in the room, we have some of our case managers, our peer specialist, some of our coordinators, as well as a property manager here. Okay, she's hanging here. They do a great job. So if my staff could stand up, that'd be great. Just to acknowledge them. Yeah. Yeah. Applause. Thank you. So for over 37 years, Femicor Network has been a part of this community serving our community. This is just one of our programs that we get the privilege to partner with the county on and we are, it is great to be here and I have the honor to lead the organization. But again, back to the collaboration is key. It is not without also stating there are many community partners that aren't here that are the landlords that are stepping up that are stepping up and saying we want to support these families and getting them back on their feet. There's larger organizations like people's self-op housing that is a great partner with us too that allow us to get those families from transitional housing and permanent housing. And it's valued partners like Haslow as well, that allow us to give those funds and those assistance to get those families into their homes and permanency and back on their feet. So again, we thank you as a Board of Supervisors for this. We also just acknowledge our staff and it's an honor to be here today. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I don't have any other request to speak. Did I miss anyone that wishes to speak on this side? I'm great. Thank you very much for being here. We're going to bring it back to the board. Thank you, Chair. I'll keep my comments brief and just want to extend my appreciation to our partners, Family Care Network. Thank you for what you do and staff, and of course, Department of Social Services. This program's like this represent innovation, in my opinion, that may have been years ago, but it's really about helping people, and you've exemplified that work. So thank you so much for your service. So if I should push out? the 799 families, which I love when metrics are actually in these resolutions, and did to case work for 1487 families and supported eviction prevention support for 101 families. I know those families are appreciative and we are appreciative and all you've done. Professor, are teeth like? Yep, it's really great to have the acknowledgement of the 10 years of contribution. And the fact that you all have a skill set that's so important today, in particular, with all the challenges we have in the housing sector. So thank you so much. I agree that it's nice to have those metrics in the resolution to see real people, children. And I know with the Family Care Network, because your focus is so much that, and same with our staff, is that we're really trying to move the needle for people to have a chance and to be contributing and to be supportive amongst themselves and within our community. So thank you for your work, everybody. Supervisor Gibson. Thank you, Madam Chair. It's one of the great success stories of our county. And my thanks to the village that it takes to make it work. Very much appreciate it. And I too want to thank you for your dedication. I know your work is not easy and we've the county we really appreciate you and we've seen we've seen the the results of all the hard hard work you put in every day. So thank you for being here and allowing us to just kind of recognize all that work. Thank you. All right. And with that, we are going to move on in our agenda to item number 25. We'll give the room just a second for those that have to leave. And item number 25 in our agenda is a slow moment. A resolution recognizing Cassandra Carnivoli, Marge Castle, Felipe Gonzalez, Roxy Selic, and Christie Lauder, Launder, for their work executing the Department of Social Services Operation Santa Program. So Frankie, is it a good morning, Madam Chair? I'm gonna read the intro to the video here, and start us out. Okay. So good morning. We wanna take, we talk a lot about collaboration here at the county and working with our community partners, the organizations and individuals. And we have a great example to highlight today. We're approaching the final stretch of the holiday prep time and people are planning time off, some time with families and friends. But there's a group of county employees who will not be taking time off between now and Christmas. In fact, we'll be putting a lot of extra time of their own in. They'll be reporting to an undisclosed county building that can be best described this time of year as a collaborative community north pole of San Luis Pespo County. The lovely, and also San Luis Workshop. And it's team of supervising elements. I'm a program specialist for Child Welfare Services. My name is Christy Lander. I am also a program specialist for Child Welfare and we support local foster youth. I'm Fouley-Bagan-Zalas. I'm a program specialist and I specialize in resource family improvement. For us, it's kind of a passion in trying to help those families. I can't imagine a kid waking up on Christmas and not having things under the tree. While we as community members donate to all kinds of toy drives across the county, this team is tasked with the logistics of getting all those donations where they need to go. It takes a lot of weekends and it takes a lot of nights because we're doing it in addition to our regular work. But because we're passionate about filling these and making sure these families have a nice holiday and a lot of that has to do with the community. It's a year-round effort that really ramps up from Thanksgiving to Christmas and these elves love to watch the holiday spirit gain momentum as the community gets involved come fall. This project is a hundred percent dependent on donations and we can't really go out and ask for donations and every year we get new people who want to be part of it and that's part of what makes this so special. It really is what the holiday is all about. When I go to do their pickups and they're just so jazzed that they collected this bin of toys or jackets or diapers or whatever, the case may be and it's just so amazing to see what an impact it has on those clubs and communities because they get to rally around, you know, something really awesome at the holiday season. They take their roles as Santa's helpers pretty seriously. I mean, I've seen all of you here on weekends and nights and why do you invest so deeply in this? I mean these are individuals in our community or families in our community who are you know barely getting by you know individuals for whom you know if we didn't you know provide support they might not have you know those gifts under the tree or even you know basic necessities that they're looking for. And it's really heart wrenching to see that, you know, there are so many children out there that, you know, want just warm clothes. That's all they're asking for. By fulfilling wishes for them, we give them, you know, an opportunity to have something fun and joyful at the holiday season. But, Kristi, you're missing some time with your family during this. What, I mean, is it, is it that rewarding? It absolutely is that rewarding. And I think we've all been in a position where we could use a little extra help and to be able to give that to people and to take a little stress off people at the holiday season and just really makes it absolutely worth the time that we spend here. It just feels really good to be able to give to the community all the forms whether it be seniors or foster youth or just families in general. Right now at Santa's workshop, it's crunch time. You know, kind of like when the game's on the line, we're on our prime. You know, that's the, you know, that's what really makes, you know, this team so awesome is that just make it happen. While giving infuses a dose of holiday spirit in know where our donations ramps up their level of task at hand. To see the faces and just know, I m it's it's so emotional experience. It's the most here. And I actually had was up in Paso and there fell into some really h times really close to Christmas. So it was a very late request and so we kind of all banded together to gather stuff and they needed, they were unfortunately sleeping in their car at the time so they needed blankets and sleeping bags and you know things that were small that could give the kids still a Christmas but not take up a lot of space. And I was actually able to hand that off to the family. It gives me chills just thinking about it. The dad was in tears. He gave me a hug. He was so grateful. So knowing that that's happening behind the scenes makes all the hours worth it. I mean, you hear this impact year after year of what it means to these families. The Christmas dream of these elves is that the spirit of the season spreads county wide. It's not too late, they're just entering the final stretch and they're available to assist with last minute giving. Give me a call at 805-540-0920. And you're giving out your personal number here. That's how personally you take this. Yeah, for sure. With the community coming together and everybody providing just a little bit, it is, you know, if it means I get an extra donation by giving out my number, it's okay with me. I mean, every little bit helps. And you guys are all naughty and you feel the same. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. We put a lot of blood sweat and tears into this, you know, project and it's really incredibly personal to us. We really, really, really work hard to make it happen and we enjoy every single second. Yes, it's stressful, yes, it's exhausting, but it's the most rewarding thing I've probably ever done ever. For their commitment to the community and to spreading the holiday spirit within it, we take a slow moment to say we are grateful to have you among the ranks of public servants in our organization. So let's see, we'd like right now to get the stars of that feature film up to the podium, Cassandra and Marge and Felipe and Roxy and Kristi. If you would, and you can spread out to two podiums, if you like, and we have supervisor or Tee's leg to read the resolution. OK. Yeah. I'll read the resolution, then we'll give out the OK. All right. What I honored is to recognize Cassandra Connavali, Marge Castle, Philepe Gonzales, Roxy Selic, and Kristi Launder for their work as the head elves for the Department of Social Services Operation Santa, whereas the holidays can be among the most stressful times of year for those struggling in our community, and whereas the social workers and staff of our county department of social services work with many of those trying to make ends meet and whereas through the generosity of our community there are numerous individuals and businesses who host toy toy drives across the county to help kids of those families and whereas those donations end up at our county department of social services for staff to organize and to distribute and whereas seniors often older and often older youth are often overlooked in toy drive efforts and donations and don't always match needs or wishes. And whereas this group of devoted elves, along with other support staff, step into bridge the gaps on behalf of Santa, creating slow counties own North Pole. And whereas they go above and beyond to make sure those in need not only find presence the gaps on behalf of Santa, creating slow counties own north pole. And whereas they go above and beyond to make sure those in need not only find presence under the tree during the holidays, but appropriate presence that represent a child or seniors, wishes and needs. And whereas they devote a lot of their own time with the intention of letting the people they serve, know they are part of a community that cares, offering hope and a wonderful sense of humanity to the recipients of their efforts. Now, therefore be it resolved in order that the Board of Supervisors of the County of San Luis Obispo State of California does take a slow moment to recognize their service to our community. There we go. Thank you. There we go. Okay, Marge. It went for everybody. Yes. Yeah. Everybody gets one cigarette. There we go. Thank you. Hi. Good to see you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.'m here to see you. Thank you. Thank you. I'll feel it back. Let's see if it has right here. Okay. Thank you. I'll just get it on now. Thank you. Yep. So we're going to offer the microphone to the recipients. Oh wait, do I turn it on? Oh, it's on. Good morning, Board, and thank you for this honor. My name is Roxie Selk, and I'm a program manager for Child Well for Services here in San Luis Obispo. I've been able to be part of this operation for the past several years, and in the past two years, I've taken on more of a leadership role in the program. Our team of ELF spends hundreds and hundreds of hours ensuring that every youth, teen and senior has their wishes fulfilled for the holidays. Many of these hours are volunteered, working late at night and on the weekends while still maintaining our regular work. And honestly, we wouldn't have it any other way. Last year, we fulfilled almost 2,500 wishes for youth and seniors. And each year, we see this need grow more and more. Being part of this effort is perhaps one of the most incredible things I've ever been privileged to be part of. Seeing wishes come in from children and families for basic necessities like a warm blanket, a jacket, diapers, shoes without holes in them, or pajamas is really heart-wrenching and something many of us in this room may have never had to worry about. Seeing the community rally around our most vulnerable gives me hope for the future. While my direct team is small, the effort is huge and it wouldn't be possible without many other elves doing the like work. Pickups of donations, delivery of packages, facilitating and organizing donors, it's an incredibly complex process, and it requires an entire village. So thank you to the community, thank you to my fellow elves, and thank you to the board for recognizing this important work and our contributions to making this community better. Thank you. I'm Marge Castle, Program Manager for the Department of Social Services, Homeless Services Division. And I just wanted to say thank you to the community, because without the community, this effort would not happen. And we are very reliant on people's generosity and their goodness of heart. And we have lots of business partners, Cal Fire, different organizations and schools and nonprofits who help us. And it's just an amazing coalition of people who really care about the most vulnerable in our community. So just a big thank you. Thanks. Okay. Thank you so much. And I don't have any requests to speak, but was there anyone that was to speak on the site? Not seeing anyone, we're gonna bring it back to the board, Supervisor Pauline. Thank you, Chair. Thank you all for being rock stars. When we go out in the community like that and we're open accessible and really representing the county in that way, it sets an example for all of us that work for the county, what public services and we really appreciate you doing that and being available like that for the families and the children in our community. Thank you. Thank you for being Santa Claus. It's an awesome experience. Thank you for all you do. For a vice-certised link? Yeah. I wanna thank the community at large. You can go anywhere and you will see these boxes out. I know our Rotaries are other service clubs. I mean, you named the list. So thank you very much. I mean, if you go to the office and see that on top of the shelves, there's all sorts of categories of toys and things. It's amazing. You guys hired just, as Jimmy said, your rock stars. And I think that we're so grateful. I was just going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, And so they're there while you know we're out partying and doing other stuff So that's just something to think about but we're grateful. Thank you Thank you, madam chair. I'm struck by your extraordinary humanity and I'm so grateful for you being there And for your vision to really look at the whole community from the toddler to the tottering senior. You care about everybody. It's a wonderful thing to know that you're doing what you're doing. Great and I want to say thank you to that was that was a fun video to watch all of you but to know how much work is behind all of this but how much joy you're bringing at Christmas time. Very much appreciated. So thank you so much for sharing this, this all that you're doing with us today. Thank you. All righty. Well with that we're going to move on move on in our agenda for the next presentation. And that is item number 26 on the agenda. And this is a resolution. I can't believe this because so many years ago, I came to work for the county as a legislative assistant and worked right next to back in the day when we had cubicles and we could talk to each other over the top and worked with Vicki. She's the one that brought me in and she was my mentor. I didn't know what I was doing. And so Vicki was a resolution recognizing Vicki Jansson upon her retirement after 30 years with the county of San Luis Obispo. Wow. I can't believe it's 30 years and Supervisor Pashan is going to read the resolution. I'll see if I can get through this resolution. You know, I need a clean. This is a resolution recognizing Vicki Jansen upon her retirement after 30 years with the County of San Luis Obispo. Whereas we recognize and celebrate the commendable service that Vicki Jansen has provided the County of San Luis Obispo for over 30 years since beginning her career as the very first county legislative assistant to a supervisor. And whereas Vicki was born in Santa Monica, California, as I was, so that's why we get along. Two parents, Jim and Mary Fisher, Jim's right here. And his one brother, and has one brother, the other Jim, right there, while growing up, Vicki spent time manufacturing, fishing rods, and graphite tubing in the family business, which was started by her great-grandfather on the Santa Monica pier in 1922. Her passions were horses and sports and whereas she moved to San Luis Obispo to attend Cal Poly and upon graduating Vicki worked for San Luis Obispo County YMCA until 1991. After being introduced to fourth district county supervisor Ruth Brackett, Vicki began working for Supervisor Brackett as the county's first legislative assistant. And in 1993, she started working for Supervisor Harry Ovent, as well as, whereas after Kachosagean was elected as the fourth district supervisor, Vicki remains serving in his legislative assistant. After Cacho was elected to the state assembly, Vicki served as the district director for assembly district 35. Then in 2017, she began working as a legislative assistant for first district supervisor, John Prishan, me. And once again assisting constituents with county issues. During her time as a legislative assistant, Vicki has worked alongside 15 other county supervisors. And whereas while working for the county, she is sought after for help and guidance in the board offices due to her extensive knowledge of county operations, board protocol and her vast network of communications throughout the community. Whereas in her 30 years of public service, to the constituents of San Luis Bistbo County, Vicki has closed an estimated 6,000 cases and served as a liaison to six advisory boards, which include the Napomo Advisory Group, which used to be called NAG, but it's now called... South County Advisory Group. Oh, Sianno, Edna area, Templeton area, San Miguel and Shandon, whereas Vicki's passion for agriculture and law enforcement keeps her involved in many community organizations, which promote her interests, including the San Luis Obispo County cattle women, where she was selected as the 2024 cattle woman of the year. And her picture should be right down that hallway, down at the end there. Whereas she is a 22 member of the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Posse and was on the founding board of the Jim Brayback Youth Legacy Foundation. She serves on the board of directors for several nonprofit organizations. And Vicki has served in several posse board positions throughout the years, including the very first female captain in 2007. She held the captain position for two years and was elected to serve in 2025. Vicki is a charter board member of the San Luis Obispo Law Enforcement Assistance Foundation, Slow Leif, formed in 2002, and has also served on the Executive Board since its formation. Whereas Vicki met her husband Matt, who's right there, while working at the Board of Supervisors, and they have lived in a taskadero for 30 years with their horses, their chickens, and their border collie, Pearl. Now therefore, Beattry and Pearl's not here, by the way. Now therefore, Beatt resolved in order that the Board of Supervisors of the County of San Luis Obispo, State of California does hereby recognize and honor Viggy Jansen upon her retirement, and thank her for over her 30 years with the County of San Luis Obispo. I'm going to do a picture of it and then we'll do the family. Can you hang? Here's that one. There we go. Now we're going to do it. It's a that one. There we go. Now we're going to do it. It's a real one. It's not upside down as if. Oh, good. Okay. So it's out. Oh, you shouldn't have too much evidence yet. That's fine. Okay. That doesn't want to do your fan. For the record I paid for this sign myself. I'm going to go to the next room. you I think it's a good idea to have a good time. I think it's a good idea to have a good time. I think it's a good idea to have a good time. I think it's a good idea to have a good time. I think it's a good idea to have a good time. I think it's a good idea to have a good time. I think it's a good idea to have a good time. Okay, Debbie said I could speak. So we have a little mantra in Supervisor Pashant's office that when you do presentations, they should be simple, clear, and concise. I don't think this will be one of those. But heads up to anyone that's doing presentations to the Board of Supervisors, remember simple, clear, and concise. Well, it's been a blessing to work so long and a job that I love. And I've become family with so many of the people here at the county. I've had experiences and participated in events that bring lifelong memories. I've been privileged to meet amazing people, including Clint Eastwood, and to visit parts of the county that many people never get to see. The county staff I've worked with over the years, they work so hard and do such a good job and they've become like family to me. I have made wonderful friendships with constituents, countywide from Nopomo to San Miguel, both county lines, I've worked to all the county lines, actually in my two districts that I worked in. I have horse event teammates who I met 30 years ago at the county and they still put up with riding with me. They've become my family. They're here and I won't point them out because I think they'll cringe, but I appreciate that they are my family. Through my job and my volunteer hours with the Posse, I have Sheriff's Office and Law Enforcement family. Very important to me. As a supervisor Arnold mentioned, we've worked together for probably 25 plus years. Through her, I think we're interchangeable. We get mixed up a lot out in the public. We kind of just go with if someone says, Debbie, to me, I just let her know later that people thought she was having event. It was just me. But through Debbie and the Ag community and especially cattle women, that has also become my family and very close to me. Supervisor Ovid was family to me. And now his stepdaughter is like my own daughter, Kyryssa. Supervisor Lenthal, he was going to come today but he had a death in the family, so he's not here and together with Jim Brayback. Those two men look after me like I'm their little sister and anything I ever need they're right there for me and that is because of my work through the county. Kacho Shajian and his family have opened their hearts and are truly my family. A Roxie and I are here today. And one of the most special things I've been a part of while I was working here was together with Supervisor Pashon. We were able to name this building after Kacho. When Supervisor Pashon brought me back to the Board of Supervisors eight years ago, his family also opened their arms and treated me as family. And I so appreciate that of that. It's been a pleasure to work with him and see all the good work he does with the county and his interaction with our constituents. I wanna especially recognize my own family who are here today. How lucky am my dad, Jim Fisher, is here. He and my mom always supported my decisions good or bad, and taught me the importance of helping others. My brother Jim and my sister-in-law, Gina, are here also to support me. And the most important thing the county has given me is my husband, Matt, who I met, wait. Uh oh. Just look at you guys. Well, I met when I brought cookies into Ruth Brackett's office. Without his understanding of the support, I would have never been able to do this job that I love. In memory of Kacho, I want everyone to remember too when they come in this building to listen, to find win-win, and to be kind. And I think all of you that I've had the pleasure to meet and to work with, and I thank the Board Supervisors for this recognition. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. I do have a couple of requests to speak here, and we'll start with Steve Gregory and Greg Haas. Hello, I'm Steve Gregory, Mayor Pro Temma, Pastor Robles, friend of Vicki Jensen, and thank you, Madam Chair, and honorable, honorable for the supervisors. I was visiting with Vicki over the past couple of months and she reminded me that we met 30 years ago in the beginning of my professional life here in San Distivispo and she's been a rock star and just an incredible person. So it started out with Ruth Brackett and Harry Ove it and then she really got into training me when we got to Kacho. So she not only helps assist the supervisor she's worked for. She also assists all the constituents like me to get things right and understand what's going on in a very good way. And my way of describing Vicki is the simple rules of keep it simple, be kind and care for others. And she's an exemplary example. She's a gold standard. She's just so good at what she does. And she keeps us involved in every aspect of county government. I live in Paserolle Wolves. I'm on the council up there. And every time I get a call from her, we get something done. And we move forward. And we keep doing positive things for our community. I have a proclamation also from the city. So I'm going to keep my presentation a little short. And I did promise Vickie wouldn't be too funny. So Vickie's a very extraordinary person and she's done so much. And all of the different things she does in our community is pretty amazing. But I want to end this with an expression. So you can't get any better than being cattle woman of the year on the sheriff's posse, and I'm sure she runs that whole organization. A loving husband who likes to climb mountains, she loves horses, she got this really cool dog, Pearl, who happens to be friends with my dog, Oggy Doggy. So I can't say enough good about Vicki, She's been a mentor and a trainer of me for so many years and helped us succeed in working with the county and working with all the supervisors. And she's made it a great pleasure. And she practices by what my father taught me. Never say anything bad about anybody and enjoy your life and be kind to everybody. That's Vicki Janssen. So with that, I'm going to read this proclamation from the city of Pouser Robles from our entire council and the community of Pouser Robles. This is a certificate of recognition presented to Vicki Janssen. And by the way, it's Vicki Jahanson if you go on your telephone On behalf of the city of Pasarobles and the city council we thank you for 30 years of service to the San Luis Vispo County And congratulate you on your well-deserved retirement Vicki, thank you and we'll see you on the street and in the park. Thank you Steve. Greg, us, our next speaker. Chair Arnold, supervisors. Thank you for providing this opportunity. I've worked with Vicki for 25 years now. And with all due respect to the board, she's the sixth supervisor. So it has been since I've been doing this. And it's a little difficult for me to talk about this because we've worked so closely together for such a long time. And Supervisor Prishanna really appreciate you and the resolution recognizing the number of cases of people that she helped, the constituents she helped, just at the county level, not just at the state level too. And behind those numbers are countless other numbers that may not have been officially recorded. Myself included. Vicki helped out my family on some certain situations we had raised a while ago. And so I just wanted to point out there's a couple things to recognize about Vicki is some of you may be familiar with the Granger at. You'll hear it on radio and TV if you want to get things done. Well, call Granger around here on the central coast if you want to get things done called Vicki. It's always been on my speed dial. It's always been needed to know something for the congressman's office. And for anything that's going on, whether official or a personal matter of friends of ours, mutual friends of ours working together. Vicki is an example of what a elected staffer should be. And just as Ben mentioned before, she listens, she's kind and she takes action. And she gets things done. And I know there's a pet project about a zip code we worked together for a long time. And that was completed before she retired. I think that she wasn't going to retire until then, but we tried to keep it from happening, but she got it done. So I just wanted to note that Vicki has been a force in this county and on the central coast on so many different levels and I know all of you have had interactions with her and so many of the people are not audience here have to and I just you know want to thank thank her personally for her service to our county to our constituents and on behalf of Congressman Carbohal, I have a certificate of recognition to present. This is a certificate of special congressional recognition presented to Vicki Jansen on her 30 year retirement. In recognition of your more than 30 years of outstanding and effective public service, helping countless residents in San Luis, Bespoke County this day, December 10th, 2024. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And Diane Henson. This is the lady that got the zip code finalized for me. It was a team effort. I didn't put a slip in. I apologize. I'll keep it super concise, clear. I've been with Congressman Jimmy Pineda's office for two years now. I've had the pleasure of working with Vicki. I'm actually sad that we're not going to work professionally together any longer, but I'm looking forward to our friendship. She is a quiet leader of immense organization skills. So thank you. And on behalf of Congressman Jimmy Panetta, I'd like to provide you with a serve. Thank you. Okay. I don't have any. Yeah. Good morning, everyone. Board and public. My name is Blake fixer. I'm the second district legislative assistant and Vicki's next or neighbor on the fourth floor. We've heard this morning I'm the second district legislative assistant and Vicki's next door neighbor on the fourth floor. We've heard this morning about Vicki's time and service and the institution of knowledge that she carries. And I just want to echo that. It's such a value amongst the legislative assistance that we have you to turn to that we can say how did this get done or how would you do something like this or we have you to turn to that we can say how did this get done or how would you do something like this or who would you approach on this constituent issue? It's it's so fantastic to have you around both professionally and personally. She's also as we've heard today just the nicest person regardless if you're on the same side of an issue or her or not. She's always just very calm and very respectful of any position that you might hold on any issue. One thing we didn't speak to today though is I'm surprised all the microphones and lights are working. I think Vicki might have been struck by lighting at some point. I've seen so many iPads and laptops and printers just stop working in her presence. I've watched her hit the same buttons that and printers just stop working in her presence. I've watched her hit the same buttons that everyone else hit and then there's something not work. It's just something magical about you. Just the technology just can't keep up. We're gonna miss you on the fourth floor. It's been a pleasure working with you. It's gonna be different there, but I can definitely say that that office and this county have been better because you've been a part of it. So thank you. Our district attorney. Madam Chair, Dan Dowd, District Attorney, and so pleasure to be here to commend and congratulate my friend, Vicki Janssen on her retirement. And I can't add to the substance that's already been conveyed, other than to say that I've been on the receiving end of various constituent inquiries that Ms. Jansen has forwarded to me. And she's just been the consummate professional public servant, the kind of person that we want to be representing our elected officials and our community members. Her love and support for law enforcement is so well regarded. I know if the sheriff was here, he would want to thank you for your work with the sheriff's posse and your support to law enforcement and your work with the Law Enforcement Assistance Foundation to provide assistance to officers and their families when they're going through tragedies such as cancer treatments or a God forbid, an officer involved shooting that sort of thing the The fact that you give of yourself above and beyond the the 60 hour work week Is such a credit to who you are as a community member a public servant and I want to just thank you We're definitely going to miss you But I'm glad to know that you're going to remain a constituent here in our community, and I know your life of service will continue. Matt, congratulations to both of you. God bless you. I love you, Vicki, and you. Well, good morning, everybody. My name is James Cifranco. I am a supervisor, Pauling's legislative assistant for the 4th district. And while I've only worked with you, Vicki, for two of your 30 years and public service, I just want to say I was just so moved by both the resolution and your remarks. And the reminder of the public service that you have given to this county and to this community to the entire central coast is it reminded me of why so many of us are here in this room and it's not just the work that you do at the county and in your job but what you do outside of it that is just so meaningful and I want to thank you for all of that work and for as I came brand new to the county, a new very little about how this operation worked, or some of the very specific issues that you were very familiar with in some cases in South County, you were always so helpful and always greeted with a smile and had a wealth of information. And we're really gonna miss you on the fourth floor. So I really wish you the best in your retirement. Thank you, Vicki. Applause. Norexie. Good morning. I apologize. I didn't submit speaking slip. My name is Araxia Shajian. Good morning, honorable chair and board members. Today's resolution to honor Vicki Jensen, as my late husband, Kato used to say, our Vicki. Can't be more deserving and appropriate. We got to know Vicki in the late 90s. And from early on, we felt her kindness, her genuine care for the public at large, for her colleagues, and everyone who walked through these doors. Her contributions to this county and the state goes beyond the 18 years working with Kacho. Working with Ruth Brackett prior to that, and with John Puchon for several years till now, those years are only a glimpse into her county career that she served with unmatched dedication. County of San Luis Obispo was very fortunate to have you, Vicki. You have an extensive wealth of knowledge and help the county and constituents with full commitment for decades. We always felt for any county matters, you don't need to Google, you just call Vicki. She will take care of the issue or provide you the necessary information. Vicki, on behalf of my family, we wish you good health, good times with your loved ones, enjoy your retirement to the maximum, pursuing your passions, and thank you for being our kind, genuine, sweet Vicki. I'm going to go to that one so I can see you. Hello everyone. Madam Chair and Board, happy Vicki day. Vicki, you've been the backbone of this county and the community for so long. You've dedicated your time and energy above and beyond what any job description could ever encompass. You guys know I'm not the cryer in this family. I have proof. So this is Kacho because he was the cryer. My first memory of you was during your transition. From working with Ruth Brackett to working with Kacho in 1998. Sorry. During, um, I can't see my speech. During the part of Koccha's speech dedicated to you, I remember him speaking to your experience in the county and he made a joke saying, so we'll definitely keep her. Sorry. But I love the only one fault. You and me, Matt. So he made a joke saying, so we'll definitely keep her. The crowd laughed and my eight-year-old self thought, huh, what does he mean? Thank you. Well, he sure kept you. And then John kept you. And then the sheriff's posse kept you. And the cattle him and kept you. And I only have's posse kept you and the cattleman kept you. And I only have a few minutes, but you get the idea. And while you're not retiring from everything, the point I want to make is that while it's time to cut you loose, I sure wish we could keep you forever. You're the longest standing and first ever legislative assistant of the county. The wealth of knowledge that is you is priceless. I also have a bone to pick with your metric. John mentioned 6,000 cases. I was thinking the same exact thing. Those are official cases. I think that unofficial cases would be completely immeasurable. Vicki, you are irreplaceable and indispensable. On behalf of the county, the dozens of community organizations, on behalf of Kacho, who would love to witness this day, thank you. We wish we could keep you forever, but we're excited to witness you flourish in your many other activities and involvements with the horses, the chickens, and Pearl girl. Applause Thank you Nairie. Is there anyone else that wishes to step forward to the podium? All right, we're going to bring it back to the board here. So, if I give Sen. Thank you, Madam Chair. Vicki, I have to confess I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the thought that county government is going to continue tomorrow or whenever it is that you're no longer in this building. You have been such a constant whether it is actually on the fourth floor as I have known you or nearby as part of an incredible team that works to do things. I'm at a loss for words, which is unusual. Um, but knowing the job that you've had, whether it is as a logistic and or district director, I know what you've been through. I know the work that you've done and to do it with your beautiful humanity fully intact and undisplayed. You're one of the best people I know. And I'm gonna miss you. Like I say, I may need to take advantage of some of the counseling opportunities that the play benefits package has. But I certainly wish you the very best going forth with Matt. And thank you for being here. That's a pleasure to see you. Yeah. Well, I love it. Vicki Day. It's a great, it's a great moniker for today, Vicki. And thank you for all the years of knowing you and your role on behalf of Kelly Abbas, my assistant, and I, we just are very grateful for your leadership on the floor floor. And just how I think one, I know that people understand, but I just want to say it that to be a legislative assistant for a variation of personalities within any community at all is a huge undertaking and the myriad of challenges that come forth and and yet to keep your beautiful graceful style and just how you are with all of us we just so appreciate that you're a wonderful role model for all of us and I think also I just love how well-rounded your life is in the sense of, you know, so many of us that are in this business kind of dive into this business, but you have so many other aspects that make you just such a beautiful whole person. And we just adore you. So good luck. And I'm so happy to have your dad here too and your whole family. So very good. And I can see why you're such a great athlete because of him. Thank you. Supervisor Paul thing. Thank you. And speaking of being such a great athlete, I was warned about you by my dad when I took office. He said, I used to play racquetball with her at the Cal Poly jamming. She kicked my butt. So, and he also said you were good people. And that's what I've observed. And every interaction we've had has been just wonderful and we're going to miss you on the fourth floor. And thank you for mentoring my staff, James. I see we go to these California State Association of Counties events and we talk with other supervisors and their staff and it seems like they're growing in staff. And we haven't, we all have one legislative assistant. It's because of people like you that have just gotten it done, right? assistant because of people like you that have just gotten it done right so I wish you the best of retirement. So very special and do you have anything Lord say? I will keep you very simple clear and concise. Vicki thank you for your empathy for the community that you represent. People love you they care about you and and Matt thank you for loading her to the county. Appreciate it because I know you retired and you were probably saying, hey, we need to go hike mountains. She doesn't hike mountains, does she? So, but I just wanted to ask everybody, let everybody know that we're going to do a little reception right after this, right out here in this little office right over there and we've got some things and and thank you again, pick you for all that you've done. Okay. So it's my turn. So knowing this was coming up, I just have been thinking. It was in 2000 that I came to work for Supervisor Mike Ryan and became our right next to each other. And I raised to bring her cute little white puppy into the office and we kind of hang out and take turns holding the puppy and busy with my rebutt. That was way back when and I can't believe it's been so long. But you really did make me, you taught me so much about working for the county as a legislative assistant and we've been good friends for a long time and had a lot in common. And so I was going to say I was going to miss you but we're retiring together. So who would have thought 25 years ago we'd be retiring together and Matt has been it's just been wonderful all these years to have you for friends. So anyway I look forward to visiting in the next room as as supervisor Pashank said we everyone's invited to join us we're going to take a 15 minute break. So I don't see anyone else coming to the podium for comments. Then with that we are going to just take our break right out here and be able to visit some more. So thank you. Okay, we're going to get back to business. So we're moving along with our agenda to item number 27 on the agenda, which is our open public comment for items not on the agenda. So our public comment and we do we have any So we've got a few requests to speak here we have Jean Nelson and Jean will be followed by Nicole Dwarfman. Madam Chair and Board, my name is Dr. Jean Nelson. I live in slow, happy property tax due date. Normally, I'm here before you to advocate for the extended operation of PG&E's Devil Canyon Power Plant. Today, I'm calling for an audit of the county's participation in the Vision Zero, specifically the active transportation plan or ATP. Previously, I sent you a relevant article. I further call for a halt in the installation of additional road barriers under the ATP. There's a conflict of interest in having the slow cog, which includes all five of the supervisors advocating for a billion dollar tax increase while at the same time increasing the congestion in communities such as San Luis Obispo by blocking lanes of arterial roads for the alleged purpose of making bicyclists and pedestrians safer. Quoting from page XI of the 2023 Regional Transportation Plan, quote, the committee also recommends slow cog explore the feasibility and necessary path to secure support from voters for a transportation specific sales tax for the region. Installation of barriers to block lanes and increase rush hour congestion is a waste of taxpayer funds. This should be immediately halted. The economic value of city of slow arterial roads is likely about a billion dollars. The value of those roads which serve to facilitate commerce is substantially hampered by the conversion of four lanes to two lanes. While my wife remained here in San Luis Obispo, I worked in Arlington, Virginia from late 2007 through early 2012. In contrast to the rural, slow county with about 3,300 square miles, Arlington County is only 26 square miles. The National Capital Region invested billions of dollars in essential public transit, including heavy rail and abundant buses. There are no road barriers, like here and slow. The ATP ignores the laws of physics. In many cases, the odds of a collision between vehicles and bicycles is increased, during kills and injures bicyclists. I call on the supervisors to end the war on cars. Cars are practical and safe means of transportation in our rural county. Thank you. Thank you. Let's see here. Nicole Dorfner will be our next speaker followed by Gary Kirkland. My name is Nicole Dorfman and I am here representing React Alliance. I am asking the board to rescind the 2021 resolution supporting offshore wind development in our county. It has been stated numerous times from different board members that this project is just at the infancy stage. It's way, way out as far as the timeline goes. And in fact, our organization has been reprimanded for opposing it without sufficient data. So if there's no sufficient data to oppose the project, then they're similarly not sufficient data to support it. And so I request that the board take a more neutral stance. And on that, I'm going to read part of a letter from the Morobey Commercial Fisherman's organization that they sent in November to numerous members of the House of Representatives. And it says, and I'll quote, what is happening on the East Coast should discourage us from going forward with this madness in California. The science is immature for the size and scale of projects that they are proposing and they are already having disastrous impacts on the East Coast. The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management or Boam authorized vineyard wind permission to install 62 turbines that are over 800 feet tall. A blade smashed into the ocean on a perfectly calm day in July. This one blade failure sent forever chemicals, including sulfur hexafluoride, into the ocean and spread thousands of pieces of sharp fiberglass fragments all over the coastline of three states. And I want you to know that pieces are still washing up to this day four months later. There is also disturbing evidence that management collaborated with workers to compromise quality control in the blade manufacturing process. And this is just the beginning of blade failures. Now I live in Moro Bay and our economy is totally based on the tourist industry as are many other of our beach side communities here. Can you imagine what an awful disaster it would be, not only an ecological disaster, it would be not only an ecological disaster. One of these blades is the size of a jet plane falling into the Pacific ocean off our coast and basically disintegrating and sending fiberglass shards along with lots of different chemicals into our ocean onto our beaches. I beg you to take a neutral stance and withdraw your 2021 resolution. Thank you so much. Thank you. Gary Kirkland and Gary will be followed by Marlay. Hi, it's Gary again. I'm going to talk about, I think it's Proposition 5 that failed at the last election. It was an attempt to water down a weakened Prop 13. I think the people who supported Proposition 5 should be in mourning and have a wake. We in the Howard Jarvis taxpayer Association are celebrating that loss. What this is going to do is make those people make it harder for those people who want to tax retirees out of their homes and throw them in the street so they'll be eligible for the vaunted and costly homeless programs that this county is propagating. So we're going to make more homeless people because they won't afford to be able to live in their houses. Well done. Well done, Howard Jarvis, for fighting this travesty. Thank you. Thank you. Marley and Marley will be followed by Darsha Stebans. Good morning. I think it's still morning. I just wanted to thank Debbie because I know this is her last month on our supervisor Arnold, excuse me, for her service for the last 12 years, I believe, three terms. And for standing up, actually, for just listening to constituents and being curious to look into the information that you were being told. I particularly want to thank you for standing your ground with this current board as there's a bully on the board who keeps trying to push his will And it's not with any merit. There's no substance given to his, his rants. It's just, there's been many people who have stood up and provided evidence for the things that they say. And yet there's no curiosity at all. And they just continue down their, to me, it seems like it's just talking points. They've been told what to think, what to say, what to do. And that's all I see. So I'm really going to miss having a board that actually some people will listen to what it is that we have to say. As far as the election integrity stuff, I was involved just in observing and there's so much discrepancy in the entire process when I found out that you can't even, the staff can't even know what the software says. They're not allowed to look at the software because it's proprietary. So how do they know how the software is counting the votes? The answer is they don't, and they don't acknowledge that, and I see that as a problem. I've also observed while they were counting during count time and during recounts some of the workers were just mentioning, huh, that paper's different or this one doesn't look like that ballot and just small comments but we're not allowed to touch paper or to slow the process down to really look at the ballot to see if it's a valid ballot to count. And on the alternative side, I've never believed signature verification is a scientific process. You can't tell by looking at a signature for five minutes, whether or not it's legitimate or not. So that whole signature verification process is, in my opinion, fraud. Can't prove it. Otherwise, I'd be in the County Sheriff's Office, but it's troublesome to say the least. So thank you. Thank you, Debbie. Thank you. Thank you. Darsha Stevans followed by Lindy Hatcher. Hi, yes, I also, Darsha Stevans, Rural Salmagel. I also would like to thank Debbie for her years of service and especially with regard to election integrity and looking at the many changes that occurred legislatively in the state of California with regard to elections and voting in the pandemic that is supposedly we're under emergency orders. We are no longer under emergency orders, and yet we are still faced with 100% mail out of the ballots to every name that is on the voter roll list. I wanted to just inform everyone that we still continue to have undeliverable ballots even with our voter rolls that are changed literally every minute or can be every hour through the various inputs that come into that. In June, as recent as June, we had 178,000 active registered voters. And we now have up to 185 active, 5,000 active registered voters. Even with that number in this selection, November 5th election, there were almost 3,000 undeliverable ballots. So I'm not exactly sure how that continues to happen. And even with one of the highest percentages of participation in our county, there's still thousands and thousands and thousands of ballots that are being mailed out that do not get returned or used. So to me that is a serious inefficiency, it's a waste of public funds, public monies are going into that and it's leading us to a case where then we have tabulators, machines counting the votes. And those we paid $135,000 to be able to have a faster counting machine. And as you know, it was Thanksgiving time coming up. And I use the analogy that it takes 8 to 10 hours to prepare a Thanksgiving meal that takes about an hour to eat, passing around everything even seconds. And what we have with this machine is that it still takes eight to 10 hours to prepare that Thanksgiving meal, but now we can eat it in a half an hour instead of an hour. It did not speed up the voting. We were still the second slowest county in the entire state to be able to count our ballots and there were precinct workers that were having people observers that that observed precinct workers giving out precinct ballots to people without having them sign the rosters. There were there was creation of chaos and confusion on election day because the moving of the precincts, this process needs to be better so that people can find it more trustworthy. I'd like to have voter ID paper ballots voted at the precincts and be able to count those ballots at the precincts. Thank you. Thank you. Lindy Hatcher and Lindy will be followed by Susan Moore. Good morning. Lindy Hatcher coming to you with a different hat on today. I am chair of the Onza Trail Foundation. And we are a National Historic Trail Foundation representing the Wamba Tees de Anza National Historic Trail that goes right through Slow County. So the Department of Interior and the National Park Service are holding a 250th anniversary. Starting next year, the Anza Trail will be commemorating our segments going through San Lois Obispo. And we would love to partner with you somehow, how you might ask. So there are three parcels in Slow County that the trail goes through. One of them is along the Edna Trail, along the 227 corridor. Another is the Urba Boine Trail up in North County. And there was a community meeting, community meeting on that one a couple of years back that I participated in and Not everyone was happy with the trail going behind their house on a donated parcels So I suggested a urban trail like San Francisco and Kansas City And that seemed to be much better received. So I'm hoping to see some movement forward on that I know there's some grant funding available for that one as well. And we would love to work with the county in any way possible just to commemorate this and I have a little brochure that I'll give and hope we can partner somehow on it. Thank you. Susan Warren and our last request to speak. Michelle, let's just start Cataraf. Good morning supervisors. First off, I was just grateful to be here because I know with both Vicki and Debbie retiring. They were very instrumental as I came on working with a nonprofit 30 years ago, and through all those supervisors, I've had the opportunity to work with both of them and as legislative assistants and Debbie as a supervisor. I'm here, Susan Warren from North County Connection, which is a recovery resource center, based in the taskadarel, but we serve all of North County. And what I wanted you to know is we're still alive and well. We are services of providing a center with a recovery library and various 12 step meetings. We have over 17 meetings a week that meet at our facility. and we were only closed for three months during COVID because we were asked to reopen by our constituents because it's seen as a necessary health for them to maintain their recovery and to prevent relapse. So I'm happy to announce that we finally actually have some staff. We got a grant this last year and we have to certify peer support recovery navigators and Wendy works with 805 street outreach providing showers and I know she's active in HSOC. And she's now working with us part time. And we have a new one that just came on, Caitlin, who's just exceptional also. It's gonna allow us to do more community outreach. And this was in response. I wanted to come talk to you because of this presentation you're gonna have next. There was some community comments about not having enough resources for families. And so I figured we'd better get out here and we're offering, we have Narcan onsite that we can give people for free. Wendy's certified Narcan trainer. We're offering a training the second Wednesday of every month. And then during the day when she's there, she can do immediate trainings. We're going to be adding the first of the year a smart recovery program, which is an ongoing kind of an addiction 101 for anybody that needs that. We have Naranon meetings, those are the only two between Santa Barbara and Salinas at our center. And we've got the library and information. So if anybody feels the need to find out what's out there, we've also helped house some people that they got their Section 8 housing, but then they didn't know how really to go about doing it. And Wendy's housed five people since September, since she's been there. So they can, the public can look us up at NorthCountyConnection.org, 805-4628600, and our peer support, that's what we're there for. You know, just don't like you guys have done to be the best resource we can to our community. And congratulations, Debbie. Thank you, Susan. Michelle? Sorry, I was not probably pronouncing that name last time. Let's do it. Perfect. Michelle Lester, Catering, Moral Bay. I'm here on behalf of React Alliance. An article came out in writers the other day regarding numerous organizations starting to step back in Europe when it comes to the offshore wind industry, especially in Copenhagen. Denmark's last offshore wind farm tender in North C's failed to attract any bitters. Authorities set on Thursday in a further setback for the industry. After a year of challenges, the global offshore wind industry no longer has as much prospect of hitting a lofty target set by governments in the US, Europe, and elsewhere, hindering efforts to fight climate change. The Danish energy agency said it would start a dialogue with markets participants in identifying reasons for the lack of bids, adding that numbers of companies had expressed interest during the initial market dialogue, but unfavorable risk, ward balance, and the acknowledgement of changing industry factors such as high inflation, rising interest rates, and supply chain bottlenecks. One of the biggest industries, Shell Company Corp. One of the major industry companies which have touted offshore wins as a key market and investment in part of the world's energy transition on Wednesday stated it is stepping back from new offshore that is marrying others. This just speaks volumes to the ongoing wind trend in our California coast, especially the development in a and the sustainability when it comes to Moro Bay and Port San Luis. The impact that is already showing in the Northseas as well as in and around Europe. My family is impacted because we're all live in England and in Northern Scotland. And in the last three days, just the offshore winds on the island itself have had to been shut down because of the extensive winds. They don't have any backup energy right now. My family is without lights and power because the turbines are disintegrating. If that's happening on shore, what's going to happen offshore? How are we going to protect California? In an industry that's not exactly been fully recognized. Thank you, I appreciate it. Thank you. I don't have any other requests to speak. So if anyone wishes to speak in open public comment, I don't say anyone coming forward. So thank you all for being here. And we'll move on to item number 28 on our agenda and ask the clerk to introduce that item. A hearing to consider community development needs identified during the 2025 community development needs assessment and allow for public comment to establish funding priorities for allocating federal funds towards affordable housing, homelessness and community development. and the public health care and the health care and the health care and the health care and the health care and the health care and the health care and the health care and the health and the health care and the health and the health care and the health and the health care and the health and the health care and the health and the health care and the health and the health care and the health and the health care and the health and the health care and the health Board, ladies and gentlemen, I'm March Castle Program Manager for the Department of Social Services on the Services Division. The 2025 Action Plan is the first chapter of the 2025 through 2029 Consolidated Plan. The Consolidated Plan is a five-year planning document required by the US Department of Housing and Urban Development, also known as HUD, to be submitted by all jurisdictions that directly receive HUD entitlement funds. The consolidated plan is carried out through the annual action plans. This graphic shows the multiple stakeholders involved in the yearly action plan process. Community members have multiple opportunities during this process to provide input. The action plan process begins with the flow of information between the community and the county through outreach efforts and the community development needs assessment. Information flows between our partner agencies such as service providers, nonprofit developers, local jurisdictions, the homeless services oversight council and the county. These communication efforts enable staff to bring recommendations to the board regarding priorities for funding. Funding comes from HUD to the county and then from the county to the agencies building affordable housing and providing services. Information and collaboration within the community, city partners and advisory boards help to ensure that grant funds are targeted to address priority needs. The portion of community development block grant funds are allocated proportionally to the participating cities in the urban county and community members have an opportunity to provide feedback to their respective cities. The members of the urban county are Roya Grande, a taskadero, Moro Bay, Paso Robles, Pismo Beach, Sanlos Obispo and the county. Funds are distributed to the community through a competitive application process. This process of gathering information, setting priorities, soliciting proposals for funding, developing funding recommendations, obtaining board approval of the action plan, obtaining hot approval of the action plan, completing environmental reviews and agreements, generally takes a little over a year prior to the beginning of the action plan. Hearing's in front of the board are held several times throughout this process. The County of San Luis Obispo prepares and submits a consolidated plan every five years in addition to the annual action plans to HUD, which describes how the urban county will allocate federal grant funds to address the urban county's housing, homelessness, and community development needs. The community participation plan for the urban county requires that staff gather public input regarding these needs. Today's hearing is required by HUD. The purpose of this hearing is to present the results of the Community Development Needs Assessment Survey to allow the public to provide public comment on the funding priorities and to request guidance from the board regarding these funding priorities and to request guidance from the board regarding these funding priorities for the 2025 to 2029 consolidated plan and the 2025 action plan. The results presented today are highlights. The complete community development needs assessment report is available on our website at slowcounty.gov slash community development. HUD federal grant programs include the community development block grant or CWG, the emergency solutions grant or ESG, and the home investment partnership program or home. The community development needs assessment is a HUD required process used by the states and entitlement grantees to evaluate specific community development needs that benefit low and moderate income persons. The assessment is part of a broader planning effort to allocate federal funds. Key aspects include identifying local needs, data collection, priority setting, strategic planning, and public input. The ultimate goal is to align resources with the community's most significant needs and to ensure that federal funds are directed towards impactful projects. Community members were able to provide input for the 2025 to 2029 consolidated plan and the 2025 action plan priorities utilizing both English and Spanish in the following ways. An online survey, attendance at one of five in-person workshops held throughout the county in September 2024, or the virtual workshop held in October 2024. Today's public hearing at the Board of Supervisors is another opportunity. The community was notified of the opportunity to participate in the community development needs assessment survey and workshops through both traditional and social media. This is a great testament to the creation of the homeless services division as we have the staff to better engage with the community, which is line of effort six of the San Lucidispo Countywide Plan to address homelessness. All social media posts and community engagement opportunities were developed using culturally appropriate language and current accessibility standards and provided in both English and Spanish. The Community Development Needs Assessment Survey received 918 community responses. This represents a 264% increase in responses from the prior year. Due to the increase in community engagement, the Division produced the first community development needs assessment report, which was released on November 7. Of the 918 responses received, 865 or 87% were from community members. the state of the city. The state of the city is the state of the city. The state of the city is the state of the city. The state of the city is the state of the city. The state of the city is the state of the city. The state of the city is the state of the city. The state of the city is the state of the city. The state of the city is 18% were from South County and 2% were from the rural east. The survey requested where respondents work and received the following responses. 34% work in Central County, 24% are retired, 10% work in the North County, 8% work in South County and 7% work on the North Coast. The survey requested respondents to provide their age range. 28% were age 25 to 40, 38% were age 41 to 61, 30% were 62 years or older. The survey requested household income from respondents, 6% identified as extremely low income, 12% as very low income, 20% as low income, and 62% or moderate income are higher. The survey requested respondents identify their type of primary residents. or moderate income or higher. The survey requested respondents identify their type of primary residents, 70% reside in a single family home, 9% in an apartment or loft, 8% in a condor town home, and 5% in a manufactured modular or mobile home. The survey asked has it been difficult for respondents to find housing in San Los Obispo County since January 2020. 465 or 50% of respondents have not looked for housing since January 2020. Of those who have responded or have looked for housing, 77% found it difficult and 23% easily found housing. Of those with difficulty finding housing, 91% cited available housing options were outside of their budget, 71% cited competition from other renters or buyers, 44% cited lack of housing options near their work, school, family, or transportation, and 40% cited difficulty meeting income or credit requirements. This question allowed respondents to select multiple answers. Household spending 30% of more of their monthly income on housing are considered cost burdened. 51% of responding households spend 30% or more of their gross monthly income on housing costs. The community development needs assessment, also known as CDNA, is an important tool that compiles feedback from the six community workshops and an online survey representing over 900 community members. To conduct the needs assessment, community members were provided a series of questions to rank whether there was a high need, moderate need, low need, or no need for each presented activity within the five different categories, housing services, housing facilities, public services, public facilities, and public infrastructure. Respondents were also provided the opportunity to select no opinion for each activity. In addition to the activity rankings, there's survey included a free response section where people could elaborate on their responses and identify other community needs. This word cloud represents the words most commonly used within those free responses. The larger the word, the more frequently it was mentioned. Analysis of the results of the CDNA identify the needs and order of importance to the respondents. The next few slides will show the top three responses in each area. The top three identified housing facilities needs are affordable rental housing, single-family housing, and senior housing. The top three identified public service needs are health care services, mental health services, and homeless services. The top three identified public facilities needs are health care facilities, mental health facilities, and child care facilities. Public facilities include neighborhood facilities such as firehouses, public schools, and libraries. Shelters would include nursing homes, convalescent homes, hospitals, shelters for victims of domestic violence, shelters and transitional facilities and housing for the homeless, halfway houses for runaway children, drug offenders or parolees, group homes for the developmentally disabled and shelters for disaster victims. The top three identified housing services needs are for disaster victims. The top three identified housing services needs are homelessness prevention, rental assistance, and emergency shelters. The top three identified public infrastructure needs include high speed internet, water and sewer improvements, sidewalk improvements. Public improvements include streets, sidewalks, curbs and gutters, parks, playgrounds, water and sewer lines, flood and drainage improvements, parking lots and utility lines. Staff recommends that the board receive and file the 2025 Community Development Needs Assessment Report and provide direction to the staff to establish funding priorities for the 2025 through 2029 HUD consolidated plan. Needs identified in the 2025 Community Development Needs Assessment include the following. Staff recommends establishing the identified needs as priorities for the 2025 through 2029 consolidated plan. Housing facilities, which can include affordable rental housing, single-family housing, and senior housing, public services, which could include health care services, mental health services and homeless services, public facilities which can include healthcare facilities, mental health facilities and childcare centers, housing services, including homelessness prevention, rental assistance and emergency shelters, and public infrastructure, which could include high-speed internet, water and sewer improvements and sidewalk improvements. Thank you for your time, staff are available for questions. Thank you, March. Questions from the board? Don't send any lights on. So we will go out to public comment and I do have a request to speak, Wendy. Hi, Lindy Hatcher representing the Home Builders Association of the Central Coast. Chair Arnold and supervisors, yes, I do advocate for Chair Arnold and supervisors. Yes, I do advocate for both trails and housing. We all need a place to live and we all need a place to recreate. So I just ask you, please keep in mind that we also need Macarade housing. I mean, we are, when you're looking at your priorities, they were approved by the board. It was homelessness and housing. I don't want to tie that housing back in and specifically moderate housing because that seems to be kind of left off with homelessness and housing focus. We need housing for all. And I know you just approved a large project, but just because you approved something doesn't mean it's actually going to be built. There's other factors, there's lawsuits and other things and funding that can prevent approved projects from being built. So employers, they desperately need housing. You do too for your staff and they don't qualify for affordable housing. And when you approve more moderate housing, it gives people a chance to move up on a housing ladder. So if I get married, combine my income, and suddenly I can afford a better house, then I free up my starter home for someone else. And that could also help prevent homelessness. So the latter also, more housing drives down the price and helps seniors when they want to sell their three-bedroom two-bath home and free that up for a family. That's a more affordable unit than a brand new unit most of the time. And then the senior can move into something, you know, more community oriented where they don't have to do their own yard work and fix their own repairs and stuff. So sometimes condos are a better option for them. And I also just ask you to consider your moderate income folks when you're planning the priorities because HUD considers them please keep them in your sites too. Thank you. Thank you. No other request to speak? So we're going to close public comment and bring this back to the board. The supervisor Gibson. Thank you, Madam Chair. I know one of the items today is to get some any board direction on priorities. And you know, this is unfortunate to say, but the amount of money we're looking at here coming from HUD is not that huge. Relative to the need and the overall spectrum of needs that are identified in the outreach work that's done and summarized in this quite comprehensive report are familiar to us, housing, homelessness, affordable housing. And the many other things that these HUD funds could be used on. I would only offer staff a recollection of the board's priorities, which are affordable housing and the attended services that, to homelessness, that make our efforts to reduce homelessness work and those are, you know, I think, priorities for any funding source, including this one. The one suggestion that I would have and I've brought it up previous years is to continue to work regionally with the cities that are part of the urban county. I have noted from time to time as we look at the actual action plans that we approve. Cities have fairly commonly spent these HUD funds on sidewalk projects has been, I understand, often motivated by feeling they needed to spend the money somehow. So I would again hope that staff would continue to work with our cities to try to marshal all the funds that can be used for housing into housing and suggest to our city partners that sidewalk improvements are important, but there probably should be other means of funding. So just trying to maximize the impact of what funds we do get from HUD. And I appreciate staff's continued efforts on that. So, President Tislaid, thank you. Thank you very much, staff. I think you guys went out and do really, you know, heard what we know, but you've actually quantified it in a very nice way and giving us some very important statistics. I also appreciate the public comment that came in a little earlier in regards to there are services out there. Sometimes people are always recognizing in regards to support for addiction, but also the idea of the affordable home and those that get caught make too much money to get into very low, low housing. We need it all. I think that's clear. While I, of course, think that a regional approach is important for all of us to be working together to support our constituents and residents and families. To cities, I think, are doing a little bit better job than we are. And so I would look back to us and for what we can do. And my request is that we start identifying what we've been talking about for a long time, which is some of our own county owned land, to be able to create some of the affordable rental housing that is needed for workforce, nonprofit workers, our staff, etc. To be part of that housing upgrade. We, you know, separately this afternoon we're going to be talking about planning and building priorities and we are working on really identifying that piece for the private sector, how to get through the system quicker, less costly, et cetera. That set aside, I think that we need to be making an investment in perhaps having our staff work on an RFP process, one identifying these parcels of land. There's some right here in the San Luis City, including the lot next to the DSS, that really we need to have a point person be identifying. How we get it zoned in the proper way. How do we put an RFP together? How would it work in regards to a dollar, a year lease, kind of a thing? It's one of the bigger heavy lifts, but if this money could be used tied to helping us do that, where we make that contribution, then we could actually maybe build a three or four story, 500 square foot units for this category, that's the hardest category to meet from the private sector. And that's what I would like to give a staff direction is being able to say, you know, let's say, let's not try to bite off too much. We know we're not developers. We're finding that out very quickly. But we do have asset. And this asset could be utilized in a way that can really push, move the needle towards the sector that's most important to us and that's our workforce. That is the people that are having a hard time making ends meet. We heard those numbers over 50% people spending way over half of their paycheck just to have a roof over their head. So I'll end my comments there. Thank you. Supervisor Paul thing. Thank you. Supervisor Paloting. Thank you, Madam Chair. I think those were important comments. And echo both the comments of Supervisor Gibson and RT's leg. One of the other data points that I wanted to pull up here that we, I think that we see correlate with the survey results here from the community. And again, we had 918 responses, which is an impressive response response and I appreciate all the hard work and I know that our PIO was involved from the HOMA Services Division in this too and so getting that level of engagement from the community is really important but our community health survey that public health does every year came back with access to health care, mental health, health and affordable housing as the top three issues. After that drug overdose deaths and a few other things. So we keep seeing alignment with our board priorities, which is important that demonstrates that we're on the right track. Obviously, the health care piece, access to health care in many ways, isn't something that we have direct purview over, but we can continue to lobby for changes at the federal level in terms of, say, medical reimbursement rates for rural areas etc. But I do you know what my frustration I guess with this particular survey community development needs survey and this 2.5 million that we have to work with is that yet again we see government working in so many different areas based on different funding sources Trying to do the good work, but but not working with necessarily the most holistic of a plan And so I think that is our board's vision in the long run is to have a strategic plan that would guide With how we braid all the different funding sources to maximize investment in the areas that need it the most. And we do have the HAP funding on the agenda, or actually we approve that, moving forward with the RFP just earlier this morning on the consent agenda, next week we'll get the update from our Homeless Services Division, but we know that we need gap funding for certain projects, projects that are already in the hopper, we should focus on those, welcome home village, making sure that project gets over the finish line. That is permanent supportive housing for people in our community, ensuring that existing operational needs for our five-seize homeless coalition, for Echo, for Capslow, that those needs are prioritized so we can continue doing the good work that we are doing. And then as we look to the behavioral health strategic plan and implementing that plan, we know we have gaps in the continuum of care. We have opportunities to address those challenges, like the Proposition I funding, where we recently are bored, authorized going out and submitting a proposal for funding a North County second public health psychiatric health facility, et cetera. So there's a lot in the works here. I just really would encourage our board to continue with the homelessness regional MOU. That will help solidify those partnerships that Supervisor Gibson spoke to with the cities. Continue to refine roles and responsibilities. How each agency can contribute to working together to tackle the problem. And in many cases, hopefully CDBG funding funds like we're talking about today can go toward that regional solution. And many of the cities will say they don't have the funding to participate. I formally represented the City of Vergrande. I understand those needs, but I do believe that each agency has a willingness to participate and that we can continue to do so as we collaborate. So those are my comments at the same. Oh, just echoing Supervisor Ortiz Legg's comment on the idea of looking at county owned land, specifically for affordable housing partnerships. I do think we need to do that. And our board previously directed that staff. I don't know which division ended up with or department ended up with, but it was something that we agreed to give some direction to staff so they could bring back an analysis. And I hope that we can see that come back next year in the context of the decisions that this board will make from a policy standpoint. Thank you. My pleasure, Pichon. Yeah. First off, thank you for including the verbatim. They're very interesting to read all the verbatim. It shows me that we need to do a better job of letting people know about all the programs we have because we have a ton of programs and they're saying we don't have programs and I know for a fact that we have programs. So obviously we've got clean and sober issues, we've got mental health issues, we're sure the top of everybody's list. One of the reasons I think always we do, the cities do a better job is they have the infrastructure to be able to build these out quicker than we do in the county. But we've talked about it for eight years to try to find some county land to be able to do some things. I don't want to forget market rate housing because it's part of the mix. This is a big mix of different kinds of housing and we shouldn't and there are working families that need market rate housing to be able to you know raise their families here, stay here, get their kids into the schools and the schools need it. The schools need that kind of housing so they can they can bring continue to bring in students. I'm curious on the PowerPoint, the City of Grover Beach was missing on the little logos of the, are we not working with the City of Grover Beach? Are we working with the City of Grover Beach? We do the City of Grover Beach. The City of Grover Beach is not part of the urban county. They are a standalone and they obtain CDBG funding from the state through a competitive process. Yeah, okay, thank you for that. And you did close to a thousand interviews. And I think it was probably waited a little heavy for Central County. And I say that as a North County person, I like it when you do more interviews in North County just because I get a better feel for what's going on. But I do think, we need to really focus on the all the different kinds of housing, but also, and this is I guess to the administration is to figure out a way to be able to get more information about the programs that we offer here. We, you know, we didn't, you know, eight years ago, we did not have a drug rehabilitation program in the county, so people had to send their loved ones outside the county. We have one now. We have a 30-day program that we have. There are a lot of programs here that people talk about in these verbatim that we have, and if they knew about them, I think they would understand that we are trying to make a difference in people's lives. We're trying to create community here. And a lot of times too, you look at the homeless population here in San Luis Obispo County, and in the city of San Luis Obispo, and people just want government to take care of it. But you've got to have participation, as you know, with the individual who's either in active addiction or having a mental health crisis. A lot of times we can't just pull them off the streets and put force them to do something. That's where CareCourt comes in. I think that's actually a program that the governor's bringing on board. Here starting up in our county, I think it will make a difference in people's lives. It's a good program. And so I would like to see, you know, us as a county being able to talk about CareCourt and how we can help families get that loved one that is either addiction or having a mental health crisis into the care court program. I want to thank you both for all your work as usual. And for me today, I think you did a really good job. Your staff recommendation is to receive and file the needs assessment report, but also the priorities and I appreciate On page 28 where you have your staff recommendation so comprehensively spelled out You can take advantage of a lot of opportunities if we go ahead and pass these priorities today And it includes I appreciate it, it glues the housing facilities that Lindy Hatcher representing home builders was interested in, hey, what if we have opportunities for single family housing, those kinds of things? But you have it all listed, affordable rentals, single families, senior housing, move on to public services, including healthcare, mental health, homelessness, public facilities, same health care, mental health, homelessness, public facilities, same housing services. You covered all. And I think that's a great approach because this is a five-year plan and we don't know what five years out looks like. So for me, I'm very interested in hearing the motion to go ahead and pass that staff recommendation on the priorities because I think it's got everything and then be happy to move staff's recommendation. I'll second that. And then under discussion just one other comment. Looking at the survey results and how much focus there was on mental health services and the need for those services and echoing supervisor Prashang's point about just really focusing on trying to get the word out about what programs we have. Another thing I think we need to do as we right size our workforce and focus on the program, making the programs we are going to continue to operate better is every mental health clinic that we have, every point of entry we have for the public here in Slow County. I'd love to see that that clinic is open and accessible to the public and I know so often because of funding and legal requirements that we aren't able to provide those services direct to the consumer in this case. But I really do think that goes a long way. And as we take pride in what we do with a smaller workforce, every building, every slow county building, every point of entry should have a painted, updated sign. This is, we're slow county, we provide these services. Please come in. And so whatever we can do in the context of our strategic planning as a board through the budget conversations to really strengthen what we do have and what we do provide in the way of services moving forward to be open and accessible. I think we should pursue some just a few comments. Thank you. Supervisor Gibson. I think just for clarity, since the motionless staff's recommendation, staff's recommendation is to receive and file the report and provide directions. So I think what's being provided is the direction and the conversation that we have undertaken at this point. Well and I think by law you have to have the priorities locked down so that list of priorities which I appreciate is so all encompassing for this board later to make decisions as they see fit. I would ask council about this would seem to be a very direct a very general matter of providing our priorities our discussion provided Insights we've have have a survey that have identified a lot of community interest But we don't have a statutory obligation to set priorities doing Read a neil county council. You don't have a statutory obligation. I think In this instance the staff has set out priorities and if the board wants to confirm those through emotion I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Chair, do you have some specific amendments you wanted to make to the motion? No, it's simply that if you read the recommendation section on the bottom of page five, going on to page six, it's identified the full spectrum of needs over which these funds can be spent. There really isn't, you know, when the feedback received from the 25 community development needs assessment, identified the highest community needs as follows. And yeah, those are the things that we talked about. So there's no specific staff recommendation of priorities. There's a list of things that they found. And it's up to this board to actually create priorities. So if you know, I think if we wanted to be specific, perhaps a bit pedantic about it, we'd say, look, our continued efforts in homelessness services, affordable housing, and related services would be continued to be our priorities consistent with our budget priorities at this point. The group. Do you see page 29? I just, 28. It just gives a very broad base. It's the staff's recommendations that we have on the books so that when they come forward with a... And I think it encompasses just about everything, including public infrastructure, housing, services, public facilities. So my motion was to just... It was my motion, but all men, my motion if that's all right with the chair. So yeah, and that's, I was looking at what was in the PowerPoint slide. It says, staff recommendation established following priorities. It is true supervisor Gibson that they are general, but they do include affordable housing, mental health services, and homelessness prevention, rental assistance, emergency shelters. So I will amend my motion to say I move approval of the staff recommendation as presented on the PowerPoint slides But with the modification that we focus the priorities and the funding associated with those To be in accordance with the Board of Supervisors general budget priorities That sounds I'll change my second to accommodate. Okay. We'll ask for real call vote, please Supervisor Polding. Yes. Chairperson Arnold. Yes. Supervisor Pashong. Yes. Supervisor Gibson. Yes. And surprise our teeth like. Yes. Thank you. And with that, we're moving into closed session. We do have a request to speak and open public comments. So Gordon All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Are we ready? Ready when you are. All right. Chair Arnold, honorable supervisors. This morning on your agenda is a closed session and the documents that were online indicated that you may be discussing a challenge to the preliminary injunction. Our consortium of groups that have brought forward the case, oh, Gordon Hensley, San Luis Vistvoco's keeper at Environment and Public Interest. Our consortium is urging that you do not take that action. I'm passing out to you documents that were released from the appellate court last night indicating that our injunction at least in part will be granted. And there is some indication in there that the judge, just like the local environmental community, is feeling like it's time to bring this issue about the Habitat Conservation Plan and the Protection of Red Randy Creek to a close. This has been going on for approximately 30 years. And unfortunately for you all, you have inherited the previous boards attempts to delay this process and you know, that the chickens are coming home to roost. Kind of on a personal note, it was commented in the paper by the county spokesman that we're attempting to hijack the process. Contrary to that, this is the process. This has been put in statute by Congress that citizens can bring forth this kind of litigation. And so, you know, it just seems like that's a little bit of an uninformed statement by your spokesperson. So this board currently has an opportunity to bring that long saga to a close. I would urge that you kind of take back up, take a hands-off with your staff who are qualified and prepared to get you a document that the Nymph nymphs and a state fishing game would likely approve and get you to the habitat conservation plan and we can start moving ahead on all of that. I understand the financial situation that the county is currently in. There may be some difficulties, then it'll be easier said than done, but we're prepared to walk with you and work toward getting this accomplished. Thank you. Thank you. I don't have any other requests to speak. So we'll ask council for a time estimate. Yes, good afternoon, Rita Neal. We're going into closed session on items one and four and we should take 30 to 45 minutes. Okay, so we will be able to reconvene at one 30. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry to word a little bit later than we planned on being but we're back and we'll ask council for a report out of closed session. Yes. Good afternoon. Read a kneel. Your board did meet in closed session and today you took no report of action. After all that, here we go back light to say we had no. Okay, we're moving on to item number 30 on the agenda and we'll ask the clerk to introduce the item please. Item number 30, a request to receive and file a report on Department of Planning and Building activities and provide direction on priority projects as necessary and receive and file the annual general plan for progress report for fiscal year 2023-24. Great, and it looks like we have Mark and Trevor to kick us off. Yeah, thank you. Good afternoon, Chairwoman Arnold, the members of the board. We're here to present our party's report to you. And with me today, I have Mark Leroux to my left, Deputy Director of Planning, down on the pit of Corey Hahn long range planning manager and then the in the audience also have Eric Hughes who is our current planning manager Sylvia Donna who is our building manager in Jill Kuma who is our permanent center manager. So just they're available to help if questions arise. And then just this report is meant to provide you guys an update with Apartments initiatives over this past year. And then we will conclude the outline with what we are focusing on this coming year. And so these are our key areas of focus. So number one priority to protect the health and safety and welfare of the unincorporated county. Utilizing our local, state, and federal parameters. We always want to ensure compliance with our policies, programs, and regulations, and then completing the board director of projects and department initiatives that you'll hear about today. And then our approach for setting our parties, we come to you on an annual basis. We provide an update. You'll see some today that we recommended based on state mandates and then looking at your board goals and how to fold those into what our work plan is for the next year. And then again, receive direction on any changes or modifications based on our recommendation presented to you today. So with that I'm going to turn it over to Mark and he will give you update on the progress report and our permanent activity in the department. Great, thank you Trevor, Mark Leroux planning and building. I'll start with the annual general plan progress report just an update. This report fulfills a state requirement to measure progress in general planning implementation. The report reviews the activities that took place to implement the general plan for fiscal year 2324. Updates the status of the general plan documents, major planning activities that commenced or were completed, changes to plans and ordinances to implement policies, residential development and relation to housing element objectives, commercial development activity, numbers of public hearings, held for development and amendment applications, and this progress report was submitted and filed in October and included as an attachment to this year's prior res report. Next is an update on land use permitting processing activities. So the department's land use permit and environmental review workload has been relatively steady for the past four years. In fiscal year 2324, the department experienced a slight decline in land use permits and environmental reviews compared to the prior year. The significant increase in zoning clearances that you see in our chart in the last two years was primarily due to a change in the department's permanent tracking practices. The department is focusing on technical training and cross-training among the planning division teams to improve workforce retention, meet SQL regulatory requirements, and improve processing times for discretionary land use permits, all of which will improve customer service. Planning staff this year did process 1,892 land use items in the past year. So our hearing body items, each agenda item that goes before a hearing body requires in the company staff report, environmental determination, and findings that support the hearing body of their in their decision. A single application may involve several hearings to obtain final approval. Overall hearing items were down about 15% but still a total of 219 items were prepared and presented by planning staff over the past year. And then moving to building permit trends. The number of new commercial and residential building permits, applications in fiscal year 2324 were down from fiscal year 2223. This is likely due to the increase in interest rates and building supply cost. Solar permit activity remains strong though is not quite as strong as the previous year. The department is focusing on technical training among building division teams to improve workforce retention, me, California building code requirements, and improve processing times for building permits, all of which will improve customer service. Overall, the building permits were down about 20% over the past year, but it should be noted that 14,814 inspections were performed this past year. That's almost 2000 more than the previous year. And with that, I'm gonna pass it on to Corey. It'll come back to me first. So Trevor Keith, Penny and Reelden, that's right. So I'm gonna run through some of the operational improvements and streamlining efforts that our department has taken on this past year. So with our permit tracking system, otherwise known as permit slow or intergov, we have successfully migrated to the cloud environment. And this offers improved security, uptime and availability to customers and staff. We've integrated FireMobile. It's a mobile app and this allows county Fire to access the intergov system to view permits while they're in the field, again to create efficiency when they're out doing the inspections. We did the deployment of the Tyler Payments. It's a new payment processing system. This offers such features for customers. It gives it more of a shopping cart-like experience, similar to any kind of online transaction of a retail store. Customer completion. We did a pilot run with some customers submitting building applications entirely online, kind of teen us up for next year when we will go fully digital. So our outcomes for next year, we're looking to complete. As I said, online building permits for all commercial and residential permits. 100% online. We're going to launch decision engine and it's an online tool to help customers easily identify which permit they need to apply for when they go online. We're going to launch connect slow and it's a map based tool which allow community members to delineate an area within the county that they would then be notified of any permit activity within that area. And then we are going some cross departmental efforts to improve our data sharing between us and the assessors office right now. And this is the first phase of a countywide effort with ITD to implement an improved data strategy countywide. We're also looking at an AI-based analysis on our permit data, and this is a piece of the county's developing AI strategy with ITD, and it's with a goal of helping identify congestion points in our permitting process and improve our revenue and forecasting and tracking efforts. So that's the permit system solar app. We put this into play about a year and a half ago, and so it really helps streamline the rooftop solar and battery storage that meets the criteria for kind of the instant permit online. So from January 1st, 2024 through November 25th, 2024, we had 467 permits issued through that system. And it helps save time with the contractors as well as staff as they move through our system. Then we have our comprehensive fee study. We've got our proposals received in October of this year and a final word expected this month and work to begin January 2025 And then we have traded out our software Gov OS. It's a new software for monitoring short-term rentals rental properties they offer a 24-hour staffed hotline number in a web-based complaint form. And this allows residents any time to contact them and based on any information that's provided to them, it is immediately referred to our code enforcement staff here at the county and we follow up on that as soon as it comes in the following day. So then moving on to some of the community development projects we've been working on. We have our pre-reviewed accessory dwelling units or ADU plans. So we put this into play about a year ago and this allows customers to choose from six different configurations with multiple designs. Overall, the county has issued 86 ADU permits since January 2024, and four of those have been utilizing the pre-reviewed ADU plans. Next, the Tri-County Regional Energy Network. So this is one of the regional energy networks that's already up and running for us. This program includes energy code connect, building performance training, in home energy savings. In addition, as of Q4 of this year, the agriculture technical assistance, the commercial energy savings, and the energy assurance services programs have launched across, and this is the Tri-County region with Santa Barbara, Ventura, and San Luis Vistpo County. The other regional energy network that we discussed this morning, the Central California World Regional Energy Network. So this is a collaboration between Monterey Bay Area Governments, High Sierra Energy Foundation, County of San Luis Vistpo, County of Ventura and the San Joaquin clean energy organization. It encompasses 13 counties with these partners. And the program includes residential, commercial, workforce, education, and training, codes and standards in a public sector and financing program. These will be delivered across the central coast, the central valley, and the high eastern Sierra as serving some of the most rural and hard to reach communities. So based on this morning's direction, we will be back on December 17th to provide a presentation and more discussion and deliberation at that date. Then we have the pro-housing designation within our housing package. This is a state program that we have applied for. And based on board action in July 2024, we submitted our application to the state Department of Housing and Community Development, otherwise known as HCB. So this, we addressed their comments, and it is anticipated we'll hear on our application in early January of next year. This would allow us to apply for additional grants and different funding sources for different housing initiatives. Then we have our Community Advisory Council, our CAC orientation. So we kicked it back off this year. It was the 21st annual orientation. It was held on April 26th. The event was attended by more than 50 CAC members representing 11 recognized CACs through the unincorporated county. The event was supported by supervisor Ortiz Legg, supervisor Paul Dyn. Planning Commissioner Shah, County Council's Office, Department of Dyn, planning commissioner Shaw, county council's office, department of public works, and all of the planning and building department liaisons of the CACs. It was great. We rolled out a recently updated CAC handbook that was presented and again this will continue each April each year to train the CAC bodies. Lastly, the building safety month in May, the department participated in the 44th edition of the International Code Council sponsored National Safety Month. And the goal of this month was to educate the public on what it takes to create safe and sustainable structures and reinforce the need for adoption of modern and regularly updated building codes as well as well-trained professionals. So with all of that, now I will turn it over to Cory to talk about some other key initiatives. Thank you Trevor. Good afternoon chair members of the board. Affordable housing is one of the biggest challenges we are facing as a county. On a screen here, we can see that county's quantified housing objectives for January 2019, December 28th to meet this challenge. These objectives represent a number of dwelling units needed to meet projected housing demand broken down by income categories. In the very low income category, 801 dwelling units are needed. In the low income category, 801 Dwayne Unitser Needin, in the low income category, 505 Dwayne Unitser Needin, in the moderate income category, 585 Dwayne Unitser Needin, and finally in the above moderate income category, 1365 Dwayne Unitser Needin. And in March, earlier this year, your board took action to address the need for affordable housing by directing our department to further implement the 2020-20-2028 housing element with specific near term and longer term actions. And these actions are currently and in April next year the department will be returning to your board with a housing element progress report. The report will include status updates on these board directed implementation actions, reporting on progress towards achieving the quantified housing objectives we walked through in the previous slide, review of the pro-housing designation program, and any recommended actions with a request for further board direction as applicable. In addition to the housing objectives, there are a few other new objectives. In November, your board directed the Department to support the Sheriff's Office in returning with a cannabis storefront retail ordinance framework. And as it relates to new state mandates, the updated state building code will be published in 2025 and require action by the county to be adopted. And new safety element requirements relating to evacuation routes and locations will need to be addressed in our safety element update. And new accessory going unit regulations that can further expand housing opportunities will need to be addressed as part of the housing element implementation actions. And that will transition from those identified objectives to a discussion on tier one and tier two priority projects. First we will walk through the tier one priority project complete in the past year. There was the Canvas Ornans Cleanup which streamlined the permit renewal process and further aligned the Ornans with state regulations. The data reserve specific plan was processed and adopted. A housing policy review was prepared and presented to your board, which led to the board directed actions mentioned in the previous slides. The Lososos Habitat Conservation Plan was approved by the US Fish and Wildlife Service, and implementation of the plan will be presented for your work consideration in the next agenda item today. And the Lososos water conservation program was updated to reflect findings in the Lososos retrofit study. And here we have the existing tier one priorities. These are the annual ordinance cleanup, which allows the department to address minor cleanup and items as necessary. The cannabis storefront retail ordinance framework, housing element implementation, the informal committee plan framework which is one of the specific actions identified as part of housing element implementation. The Loslos committee plan which is set for a Coast Commission certification based on boards action on October 29th, and phase one of the safety element update, which would address dead end roads and consistency with a couple of state bills. As shown in the second column labeled current status, an annual ordinance cleanup was completed in the past year and the rest are in progress with various target completion timelines labeled current status, and annual ordinance cleanup was completed in the past year, and the rest are in progress with various target completion timelines shown in column 3. The department recommends that your board keep these STO1 priority projects. And on the next slide, we have the existing tier 2 priority projects, which are projects that would proceed with further board direction or as department resources become available. The Tier 2 priority projects are the airport review combined as a nation, dark skies ordinance, mining resource area combined as a nation and send Lewis and Bayes States land use category cleanup. The department recommends that your board move the mining resource area combined as a nation priority project to tier one and keep the rest as tier two. And here we have some potential priority projects for your board's consideration. The first is the Losos, the Lososos Habitat Conservation Plant Implementation, as discussed, that will be in the next agenda item before your board today. And it is recommended to be moved to tier one. Economic element update implementation is recommended to move to tier two. Safety element update implementation, which will be phase two of the current safety element effort is recommended to be moved to tier one and a update to the pre-reviewed accessory drawing unit program which is necessary to keep the prepared plans viable to customers since the building code will be updated in the in the coming year. This is recommended to be moved to tier two. And with that this slide sums up the eight projects that we recommend to be moved to tier two. And with that, this slide sums up the eight projects that we recommend to be in tier one. The annual ordinance cleanup, Canada's storefront retail ordinance framework development, housing element implementation, diploma committee plan framework development, those socials can be planned development implementation, safety element update phase 1 and 2, mineral resource area combined as a nation amendments and the Loslosos have that conservation plan implementation. And finally, I recommend that your board receive and file a report on department of plan building activities and provide direction on priority projects as necessary. And receive and file the annual General Plan Proposary Report and staff is available to answer your questions or board may have. Thank you. Thanks, Cory. Questions to the board? To the supervisor Palvin. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, Cory, and Trevor for the comprehensive presentation and staff report. I really appreciate that. One of the questions I have is really about our performance metrics and how we track. And I know that we had some statistics in here, for example, regarding ADUs. We had 86 ADUs that were processed since January 2024. Or I don't actually, I don't remember if it was processed or if they were approved, I think it was approved. But that actually goes to my question, which is where is the report that would provide how many are in the pipeline, how many that have been approved, how many have been constructed, more information than just how many have been approved. Is that part of a different reporting mechanism that we have for the planning and building departments? Yeah, so Trevor Keith playing Building Director. So yes, it is. I think with the next year moving 100% online, the stats, it will be easier to pull those stats to report out. So that's something we can include in the Priorities Report moving forward, if that's your board's desire, or we can keep it in kind of our training report that we give you guys. Okay, maybe that's the one that I'm trying to recall, the Triennial Report. Yeah, so I think we had it in there earlier in the year that we, yeah. Okay, brought to you. Yeah, I think that's important because we need data points to know whether the goals that we've established are actually working and then those data points obviously inform policy and how we reassess our priorities. The next question I would just want to clarify on the slide that was entitled potential priority projects for board consideration. If you can pull that slide up. So everything that says move to tier two is currently not on a tier, correct? It's not deprioritizing to tier two. It's moving to tier two from no tier. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Appreciate that clarification. So that would be for the re-review accessory dwelling unit program update. Moving that to tier two, same thing with the economic element development or economic element of the general plan update. Okay. Is that a general plan update. Okay. That is yes. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Trevor. Yes. On that note, I guess, you know, we haven't as a board really talked about economic development in the context of planning and building and what your long range planning division would do to assist. So I imagine there was some thought that went into recommending this as a tier two priority. I know we have reached as a partner. They have helped us develop a comprehensive economic development strategy as a board. In that strategy, there are a whole number of action items that relate to placemaking strategies that really involve community development as we know economic development goes along with community development and workforce developments, all those three working together that would help our board accomplish our goals. So what would an economic development element update and tail? And why have you recommended that we add it to your team. So I think based on where our economic development. Element sits right now. It was based on the previous work done years ago kind of surrounding the clusters, kind of the different ag clusters, tech clusters. And I think it's outlived its usefulness where we are today. And so I think based on discussions with our administrative office and kind of looking to the future and the efforts to focus on economic development, that was the intent of putting it on tier two so that we could get to it when we have time and really kind of coalesce with reach and other stakeholders in the community on where do we see? There's a lot of opportunities out there and I think to have a guiding document for the county would be very beneficial to us in the future. Okay, and I certainly agree with that. I had read the element at some point in time and notice, you know, it talks about the EVC, doesn't talk about the REACH. It was, I think, 2012 when it was less updated. Correct. I'm a big proponent of policy, and would love to see that Slow County actually have an economic development policy and strategy. And well, Reach provides that foundation with us in Santa Barbara County and has some really good high level goals. I think we need to get more specific. And would love to see us use this as a policy vehicle to identify those goals, objective strategies, performance measures, all that good stuff. So what would it cost to do that? What are we talking? Is that a consultant contract of a couple hundred thousand dollars, or is that something that could be done within the existing scope of reach as our partner, where they would take the SEDs and the goals, objectives, and that and kind of meld them into our existing economic element update? Or what does that look like conceptually? Yeah, I think there's different ways to go about it, but I think that at the end of the day that we would be driving, we would be the lead of it. It's our county policy document and I think we could, yeah, if it's reached its tagged in to help collaborate on that or if it's a different consultant, I think we would, yeah, probably need a driver of that. So that would be my recommendation that we bring somebody in, whether it's reach or different consultants to help facilitate that. All part of cost, I would need to kind of shop that around before I could give you something that I could stand kind. But to be clear, looking at your recommended tier one priority list, you're basically, staff is saying and your kind of expert opinion, looking at resource constraints, et cetera, that if we want to do the ordinance, annual ordinance cleanup, if we want to take on cannabis storefront retail in the coastal zone, housing element implementation, and the public community plan update, list, so, so, et cetera, the things on the recommended tier one priority project slide that we wouldn't be able to add the economic development element update of the general plan because at this stage, because we wouldn't have staff capacity to do that, or is it financial had the economic development element update of the general plan because at this stage, because we wouldn't have staff capacity to do that, or is it financial capacity based on a lack of internal funding for a contract, for example, with a third party? Right now it is just looking at staffing capacity. Okay. Yeah, and that's why we recommended it to your two. So it's on our radar and it's something that we could pull up if capacity and resources were made available. Okay. And then I think we have some folks today that are going to speak about wanting to see an update to our county's climate action plan. And I know that I believe it was last year or the year before we did actually as a planning division pursue a grant to fund a climate action plan update And weren't successful. Can you shed a little light on what happened there? Yeah, so I think we we applied for a grant Through the state and unfortunately the the response back from the state was they were looking for more less The money was geared more for actual Implementation of programs versus development or updating of a climate action plan. They were looking at jurisdictions that had an update and were more actively pursuing programs. So I think that's where we fell short on the scoring. Okay. And so in light of 3CE, 3CE Ren, the rural network, all that stuff that we just talked a little bit about this morning, everything that we're kind of doing here as a county, do we think we're better positioned to pursue funding? And then the second part of that question would be obviously the update of the plan can't be done internally based on our staff's opinion. It needs this outside consultant in order to do the work and then do we know exactly how much that might cost? That would be our preference to bring somebody in to help us facilitate that of course being a part of it. Yeah, I would have to kind of shop it around before I could stand behind any numbers. I think your question on grants, I think, yeah, the more programs, whether it's 3C-RIN, kind of the CCA effort that's going on, or the one that's coming back to your board on the 17th, the CCR-RIN, I think that, yeah, that shows leadership in the space. I think that will help us pursue grants. It's just finding the grants that align with what we're after. I think if we need money to update the climate action plan, itself, yeah, we gotta find that bucket. I think the regional energy networks are less of the climate work, the Community Choice Aggregation Program. I'm not sure if there's funding available for climate work and that kind of that work effort, I've not been personally involved in that. And so I think there are more opportunities, you know, again, the more that we help facilitate here at the county. Okay. And just one of my observations has been that it kind of goes to a point we talked about earlier about mental health programs and things. Just raising awareness to the public about the programs that are available. We're talking about, you know, a rebate for an electric vehicle or through 3CE, which now will be available through the in the unincorporated area come January 1st, or upgrading your water heater to an electric heat pump so you can reduce, you're create that efficiency. We have all these programs and I think we just need to, as a county, maybe it's more of a comment, but try to just do a better job at getting the word out about that and that does implicate our partners, making sure that we're collaborating with them. And for those programs though, planning has a role. Like Mr. Gerbio is our planning person that is responsible for the 3C-Ren program area, correct? Yeah, correct. person that is responsible for the 3C rent program area correct yeah correct but then in terms of rollout the administrative office is obviously involved with 3CE for example right yes okay I know I'm jumping around here but there's a lot of programs my final question is a more technical question all directed to you mr. Hahn we had previously discussed this I just wanted to get it on the record. SB 9, I guess, changed in terms of which areas of slow county are eligible for SB 9 based on the updated census. And I have constituents who are concerned about that. They want to see that their properties are eligible for that tool. And I just want to know when, I know that based on our conversations conversations staff plans to bring that back to our board to have a robust discussion around what the methodology in terms of eligibility areas should be applied is and I know that you plan on bringing it back can you give me a timeline on that. Thank you, Cory Hahn playing. So the SB 9 and 80 discussion is part of the housing element framework is one of the actions identified by the board. That is one of the key things as Sir Reservoir Pauling touched on is that we're considering not only recognizing the latest census map as related to urban areas, but also looking at the previous census maps for urban areas. And the direction that we receive from part of the steering committee's direction is to bring back to the Plan Commission and Board to make that recognition of those different census tract areas, urban areas eligible for SB 9 implementation. So we anticipate bringing that back to the Plan Commission end of April. And then assuming the Plan Commission makes a recommendation. We anticipate bringing that back to the board, either June or July, depending on Rheumanda agenda. Okay, thank you for that confirmation. Those are all my questions at this time. Thank you, Chair. Okay, another light time. Oh. It's okay. I just- Just a couple quick questions. I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not sure if it's a case that I'm not asking. Yes, there's no rhyme or reason to the spreadsheet. The second one is mineral resource area combining designation amendment. What's your definition of a mineral? So this is, it's a state map that shows where mining, where it's located. So this is mining. So, kind of minerals do we have in San Luis Obispo County? So we have in-stream mines and then kind of hillside, you know, we don't have really mountains here, but kind of hillside. Those strip mining? Yeah, no, not that. Just double check. And then we'll gravel. Gravel aggregates. Yes, yeah. That's what you're talking about. Well, and we have a geologist on the board, right? So I just wanted to make sure that we were all on the same page. Because he's going to start using technical terms and I'm not going to have a clue what he's talking about. It'll it'll put you to sleep eventually. Okay. Um, so that and then, um, uh, I see the tier two's like the dark sky ordinance. That remains a tier two ordinance, right? So yes, it's up to your board if you want to change any of the tier two items. Yes, that was all. I'd like to take the cannabis storefront down, but I'm not so sure I'd have the votes to move it down. So, okay, I appreciate your time. Absolutely. Now the question is, Corey, can I ask you real quick, the mineral resource area, combining designation amendment. Did I, did, were there words on that chart that said that was a state, state mandate that we have to do that. That's correct. That's correct. In a short timeline. I mean in other words that's not a choice. That's a requirement. Get it done. Yes it is a yes state requirement. And so will that be expensive? So this is how I don't know how detailed and elaborate it is. Yes we already have one so is it just a little update or a big thing. Correct so this this effort was started a few years ago. Yep. Due to different priorities and kind of COVID this effort was paused. We recommend that we bring that resume the effort. We think it's a relatively low hanging fruit type of effort. Okay the effort. We think it's a relatively low-hanging fruit type of effort Okay, so that's why it's recommended to be brought for us tier one and money wise low-hanging fruits usually not has expensive I'm just thinking about the budgeting part of it. That's correct We did anticipate being a very costly effort. Okay perfect any other questions? Yes, or two slide. Yeah, thank you. I didn't want to have all the red light lit up so far. Thanks so much for the report. The GUB OS on the compliance for the vacation rental, short term rental stuff. What is that phone number? You look on the website. I can't find it. Does somebody have a phone number on how that works? So I can get that for you. We just have transition providers. And so yeah. Be nice to have that on the website for people looking for response to any complaints for their vacation rental neighbors in issues. I wanna say thank you for the efforts on the community advisory councils and all the work that was done and especially Jimmy's staff did a lot in Jimmy too and my staff as well. I think we all tried to work and find a path for all the various advisory groups to have some structure. So thank you for that. I wanted to ask about the safety element update. And there's reference to Cal Fire and everything, but there's not a lot of detail in our report about what exactly that is. So can somebody provide me with information there? Thank you, Cory Hahn, planning and building. So phase one of the update relates to creating an exception for Denon Rhodes, one that was those requirements. That was identified by the board. Yes. In the previous year. And on top of that, consistency with two state bills, AB 2140 and SB 1241. As it relates to phase two, what we're recommending is there are a couple new bills from the state, three to be specific, AB 747, AB 1409, SB 999. It relates to evacuation routes capacity, sorry. Evacuation routes. Evacuation routes. The capacity of and safety of these routes and whether or not they're viable for emergency scenarios. And so this is something that we will have to address at some point right now with the county going through an update of the local hazard mitigation plan. We think that updating the safety element as a phase two to kind of follow up with that being updated is kind of good timing to address these bills. Okay, so back on phase one, how what's the timeline there and how do we see that rolling out as far as being able to create an exemptions When necessary we anticipate bring that before your board in April 2025 so in a few months. Okay. All right And then you know In consideration of of these elements should we end up having a situation where somebody has a piece of land and they cannot use it because of the way that the new rules are. And then they come back. Well, it's not, it's too big of a question to ask because it basically goes back to the valuation of that property. And if they, it becomes unusable in the sense of creating a home or business there whatever it is that they wanted to do and that property then becomes somewhat useless. Are we in our analysis taking into consideration the tax implications of property tax etc. That probably would not come into play in this situation but is it something that we can add into look at or that's too big. Yeah so Trevor Keith planning building so yeah that's that's not kind of in the scope we're really looking at just the policy update to mirror the state language within our safety element. Yeah in mirroring the state language are there not ways to do does the state language we're looking for the ways that the state language provides us an opportunity to fit it towards our size? Meaning that not all counties are the same. And while there are some important requirements in all of this, I think that there's some aspects to it that provide some, what's the word I want. Something to, that we can create that fits slow county, meaning that, you know, we don't have to follow the rules exactly. So I think, so Trevor Keith again, I think with the, there's kind of the, the state kind of cal fire side of things in county fire. And then there's the board of forestry. I think we've had much more success and kind of maybe right sizing the policy on the cal fire county fireside. It's the board of forestry where we've sent letters and had a tougher time getting any change with them. I know RCRC was working with them on that and I think early next year I think Cal fire and ourselves the exemption process that you're speaking of some of the other things will be yeah coming to your board for discussion Thank you. I think that's it for me right now. Thank you. Okay. No, they're like a supervisor polling. A couple of follow-up questions. Thank you, Chair. One pertains to code enforcement. I didn't see much about code enforcement in the slides in terms of priorities. Huge priority in my district. And I know that we've had some resource constraints recently. So, you know, when we look to, we look to the goal of cleaning up our communities, encouraging people to take care of their properties, all that stuff, that beautification effort, it really does implicate code enforcement. And I know our staff work really, really hard. Do you feel like in order to ensure that we have a fully staffed functional code enforcement division that you need to see a priority on the tier one list for your department or what would be your thought on that? So I think it could be one of your, yeah, your board parties, I think, working with the administrative office on funding of the code enforcement, our section. I think whether it's on our parties or it's on the overall board parties that the administrative office is bringing back. I'm not sure we're best to land that, but I think expressing your desire for a fully staffed. Basically what you're saying is that we're in a hiring chill given our budget circumstances. And you've got a vacant position you can't fill because of that hiring chill, is that correct? Yes, I was dancing around that. Yes. Let's just talk candidly. That's yes. Okay, that's serious because we need to, when we do talk priorities and, you know, where we want to invest, you know, the limited funding we do have, you know, I believe code enforcement is a really important priority. And it looks like Supervisor Ortiz Lake has a follow-up comment. I've got one other question, but I'll let you piggyback in the... What I wanted to note was that in the ordinance cleanup is that if we don't have language in our ordinances when we have violations that allow us to penalize those that are not following the rules in that sense, that should be covering costs of enforcement. So we need to really look at that as far as being able to, which shouldn't be coming out of general fund, to pay for those that are breaking the rules and creating situations for their neighborhoods, et cetera, in our communities. There should, and I don't think that we have the right mechanisms at this point in time to pursue the kinds of remedy that we need to, in order to get people to stop. And particularly in the case of entertainment situations, where we have a lot of people who follow the rules, spend a lot of money to get their permits, and yet we have those that are breaking the rules and making money and not having any penalty whatsoever. So that would be a priority for me. And I know that with short-term rentals, with vacation rentals, we do have our assessor's office, I believe, going to come back with a report next year to just talk about making sure that we have cost recovery built into the fees that we charge to pay for those services. But it's the same idea, right, extending that beyond. Yeah. One other question I had, and this goes back to something we discussed earlier, and that was the directive that we gave to staff last year to research County-owned land, to develop an inventory of vacant and or underutilized County Own land that we could use to partner with nonprofit builders to actually move the needle and builds affordable and low income housing to meet that very low and low income category in our rena objectives. On that note, it's not on this list, either Tier 1 or 2. I know that an effort like that involves more departments than more departments than planning and building. For example, central services. I know public works maintains an inventory of their properties. Do you see Trevor, that as more of an administrative office led exercise that would probably require a multidisciplinary team and inter-departmental task force to fully do the review, bring back recommendations to our board. So I think the discussion revolved around central services taking the lead on that. Looking at the vacant land and in clad writing, I'll leave it up to the administrative office if they're involvement and oversight of that. You on a way in on that, Mr. CAO? Yes, supervisor, Paul. And thanks for the question. Central Services has compiled a list and we're happy to get that back on the board agenda and report back on that. Unfortunately, due to the amount of things that are agendas between now and March, it looks like it would be late March when we'd be able to get that back in front of the board for a discussion, but we can target for that, if you'd like. That sounds good. And do you feel like the administrative office and central services have been given the direction as to specific direction as to what criteria our board wants to see established in order to basically kind of filter through those properties and determine which rise to the, you know, this but the, I guess the hierarchy or the priority of saying, look, this is a property that's, it's in a zone that works. It's currently vacant. There's no public works department priority to use it for some kind of county facility, etc, etc. Do you feel like you've got the direction you need to kind of bring back a more prioritized list? Yes, I believe we have that information. Perfect. That sounds good. Well, I look forward to having that discussion next year in March or late March or after that. And then my final question pertains to the NAPOMO Community Plan Update. I know we've had some discussion at the staff level about how the cost of the plan update is predicated on the scope of the plan. For example, is the planning area of the NAPOMO Community Services District area, or is it beyond that the entire NAPOMO Mesa? I guess what I'll say is that the community is very excited about the prospect of updating the plan and so having some level of certainty as to when we're going to kick that process off is important. I've been told next summer it's kind of like our general goal and that's what I have been communicating communicating to my constituents. But at some point, we're gonna need to nail down, you know, what the cost range is based on the scope of that effort. And I know we've talked about a framework being developed and our board weighing in on that. Could you shed some light on when that framework is anticipated to come before our board so we can weigh on those decisions. Yes, thank you, supervisor, and Corey Holland plan building. As identified in board's direction, the framework is, the Nipomew can be planned framework is one of the actions that our department will be bringing back to you by summer. That framework would then identify the range of scopes and depending on the direction provided at the time Would we our department will be asking for the necessary resources to achieve that scope so if It's directed you know that we want to do a full-blown community plan update versus Implementation of certain actions. There's a whole range and gamut of things that we can choose from, and our department's happy to work with your office to better fine tune what the community is looking for in this process. Okay, and it's my understanding that there is about $250,000 that we could use for a minimal scope effort, but if we went to the much larger effort, we're talking like $750,000 to a million dollars and a multi-year phased approach That would require this board to allocate some funding in order to implement that Yeah, that's correct based on scope. Okay. Yeah, all right Thanks, those are my questions at this time Okay, looks like we don't remember any other lights on so we'll go out to public comment and we'll start with Claudia worth then Claudia followed by Jamie Jones I would like to so we'll go out to public comment. We'll start with Claudia Worthen. Claudia followed by Jamie Jones. Yeah, Claudia Harmon, we're within a long, long time resident homeowner in Cambria and I'm president of beautify Cambria. And as I'm sitting here a few things have happened I saw that we are going to be allowed to stay in priority 2. I'm here to ask you to put us into priority 1 We were in priority 1 last year and then you took us as you know you took us out and put us back to priority 2 I'm listening to and seeing your slides about public safety and about climate change. And there's all kinds of things that you're working on that this change in this lighting code will make a big difference in. So, I mean, there's many, many reasons to do it, but I think that it's in keeping with what your goals are. And it also, besides being in the code already, you know, the energy commission, you know, they have, you know, Title 24 and we should comply with that. And this would, you know, this lighting code would comply with that. There's many communities that would like to be involved in this in this easy L.U.O. the coastal zone land use ordinance area. And so, you know, we can do just cambria, which would be the easiest and fastest thing to do. And, or we could try to do the whole C.Z.L.U.O. And I talked to Corey and Blake Fickseler about this and they were kind of thinking out the direction of actually changing the code to comply with current standards. Okay, the biggest problem with the code right now is just one little thing, it's 150 watt lamp. Okay, 150 watt lamp if that is LED standards. That is 22,250 lumens. Okay, that's like, okay, if you're driving on the street and you have this lice shining in your eyes, this is like three times brighter than that. So it's really, really bright. And because this was the code is written in 1992, there were no LEDs, and so therefore it's not in there. So we need to fix that. That's the minimum and that would be a diminimus project to just fix that for right now. And then meanwhile hopefully bring us back to priority one so that possibly later this year when you have some of these big, big projects done or you could, or so small you could squeeze us in because we've already written the code and we work with the county to help you to modify it in whatever way you need to do. We have the support I know of Supervisor Prashank because you just mentioned it. And I'm pretty sure that Bruce Gibson, our Supervisor is because you wrote a letter in favor of dark skies. And Don Ortiz Leg has also been in favor because she and Bruce gave us money for a sky meter that we need to, for as part of the certification process. So I could give you a lot of statistics, but I think the important thing is that you have the opportunity to bring us back to pre- oh, I went over. I'm sorry. I already won. And I would like you seriously to think about doing that today. Ms. Horthin, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Jamie Jones followed by Mike Brown. Good afternoon. Jamie Jones of Kirk Consulting. Thank you, Board, for the opportunity to provide comments on the planning priorities. I'll start with of course we support keeping housing as a tier one priority. It's the most important thing happening that we need to happen in our county. One thing that I would like to ask the board and this got by me whenever you were looking at the action items back in March where you established your I think we called them your short-term initiative your near-term initiatives and your long-term initiatives and what got put into the long-term initiative bucket was permit streamlining so it would seem that I hope that your board can give direction that we we put that permit streamlining back into the bucket of near term because that's really, really important. That's what we hear everybody out in my world complaining about is permit timeframes. So the other direction I hope your board can provide, although I think you might have done it already, is these near term objectives that we have, we think some of them could be done as cleanup items. I mean, heck, you could throw in the the walk change in an ordinance cleanup item. We can do the SB 9 mapping as a cleanup item. That shouldn't be a huge policy debate. And then even the multifamily and commercial service, office professional, commercial retail, those should be able to come forward pretty quickly. I think as it's programmed right now, we're not the board isn't going to see those until October next year. So we'd like to see a way to get that done quicker. Moving on to the mineral resource combining designation. That's a weird little thing. But I went back and said, why isn't it done? And you guys, how to staff report? You're ready to do it. The meeting before COVID so obviously it lost priority because our world changed so that staff reports done you were ready to take action at your next meeting so there shouldn't be a lot of effort to just get that done let's just check that off the list and lastly is the data that's included in your reports we're seeing numbers and to supervisor Paul Dean's point are these permits in process are they permits completed? Have they been built? But one of the things that we're not seeing are timelines. So what does it take to get a permit completed, whether it be a land use permit or a building permit? That's a very important metric because the permit numbers are down. They're not, I mean let's just look at them, they're down. The number of MNDs went down from, I think, was 64 to 19 over the course of the last four years. So the numbers are down, but we're not seeing really a difference in time frames. So why is that? And if we can use this computer, our new computer system to see where the bottlenecks are, why is it taking so long? Is it something with the system? Or is it taken so long? Is it something with the system or is it a particular person? Maybe there's some sort of, you can look at it as opportunities. Is there opportunity for improvement in training in our systems? But we really need that data to find out the whole picture. Thank you. Thank you. Mike Brown and Mike will be followed by Linda Hatcher. Madam Chair, board members, Mike Brown representing CoLab, as to the permitting and inspections and things. Those are velocity measures at rock bottom. How many you do per day, per week, per month? How long does it take? And one suggestion would be take your top 10 permit types, whether it's major use permits, other use permit, whatever they are and measure how long it takes to get them through and see if that makes sense. In inspections, it comes down to how many inspectors and how many inspections do they do today? And you take your second fastest inspector and make that one as standards. And by the way, if we could be any help, we've got a huge library of performance measures for everything, including those that belong to the International City County Management comparative performance measure institute. And we'd be glad to share those with staff, and the National City County Management Comparative Performance Measure Institute. And we'd be glad to share those with staff if you and the CAO wanted to do that. But that would be free consulting in fact and you could take it for what it's worth. The bigger issue was you decide on which things you've heard economic development mentioned. you've heard climate action plan before you launch to give resources to that type of project, get a presentation on what the problem is, define the problem and see if you have a problem. So for example, on economic development, there doesn't see, I don't think there's a real problem here. Your economic development problem is a housing problem. And you've had reach in every CEO and everybody in the county tell you that. That their biggest problem is retaining and getting employees. So if Intel came to you tomorrow and said, we figure out, we wanna put a thousand employee chip factory on the North end of Templeton, how could you do that? Even if you could find the water. So I think, and this comes back, but just before COVID, and most of you will remember this, the board assigned, the CEO's office program to work with the city managers and everybody in a project manager was assigned to see how we could find land for some major development that's outside of the normal zone stuff. And when COVID hit that went away because that project manager was reassigned to the COVID crisis and then she was reassigned to homelessness or something. So and then that project itself was thrown over, lobbed over to slow cog and we haven't heard anything. You need to take a look at that. But again, before you jump to these things, get a definition of the problem. So is climate change a problem or not? You've never had a presentation on that that's intellectually independent. Thank you very much and I'm available for questions. Thank you. Lindy and Dand available for questions. Thank you. Lindy and then Don Ruzka. Hi, Lindy Hatcher speaking on behalf of the Home Builders Association of the Central Coast. So we come to you asking you to prioritize your housing element programs and implement these programs where halfway through the cycle, I'm not even sure we're in compliance being halfway through the cycle without the programs being implemented, which would lead to builders remedy programs. So you might want to look into that. But specifically, several of these programs would bring on more housing and made a list of them for you. Program A, multifamily dwelling development. C, designate more land for residential use, F, streamline approval processes, P, density bonus, S, infrastructure planning and development, T, streamline and regional residential development, and Y, residential, commercial land use development. So we have housing policy crisis. We don't exactly have a housing crisis because we're ready to build. You say go, we'll go. As Mike said, the economic development problem is really a housing problem and we completely agree on that. The National Association of Home Builders in conjunction with the National League of Cities and the American has systems approach to addressing housing supply challenges, strategies to support construction and development, increasing housing supply, affordable housing, funding sources, strategies to guide land use and development to shape housing landscapes. And I plan on sending a copy of this to the CAO to all of you and planning and building departments because why reinvent the wheel? This is national and the partners are not just housing. They're people that come together to create this housing. So we also love the idea and fully support taking a look at your housing stock for your surplus housing and making it available for housing. Thank you. Thank you. Don and Don will be followed by Aaron Pearce. Thank you, Madam Chair and members of the board and members of the public. Our family is 36, 31 year residents of this county. And we've seen lots of changes and a lot of things happening because of climate change. We're seeing flood, flooding in areas. We're seeing agricultural impacts. We're seeing a whole variety of things. So I'm here today on behalf of a coalition of community interests to address that issue and to see what we can do to help our residents, our businesses in the county administration and government itself in addressing these issues. You had a recent report at one of your board meetings from the county's public health department about the challenges and impacts that are coming and impacting people from a physical and mental health point of view. We've also seen how the floods last year have been very impactful in battered communities in particular disadvantaged communities. And we've observed yearly increases in wildlife threats that we're facing. So the list goes on, there's all kinds of impacts across the board, agricultural tourism, public infrastructure, biodiversity and water resources. So one might be inclined to take a siloed approach. This is say, okay, we're gonna have plenty and do this, we're gonna have public works do that, we're gonna have others do that, but what you miss in that is really the power, and this is what's being found at other localities, the power of taking a system approach to it, they can be far more efficient, much more effective in attracting the kinds of grants and resources that are available elsewhere to assist in that and to really garner the support and energy of the community to work on these issues. And in the absence of such a county-wide climate resilience priority, the planning and building department as an example is missing some direction that would enable it to tap resources for a number of opportunities. And this is just a real short list. There are proactive opportunities to shape and benefit from the Affordable Housing and Sustainable Communities Act that provides funding for the state. There's opportunities to position our county for the Prop 4 $10 billion in climate resilience and disaster preparedness dollars that are coming down the pike. There's opportunities to update our climate action plan has been mentioned which would demonstrate to the public and the funding sources that the county is serious. So all these things are leading us to a place where we really need a clear priority and to have that in place. And we appreciate that the County Administrative Officer has offered to meet with us later this month to review current and potential ways to address climate-related mandated and discretionary opportunities. And we asked the board to direct your administration to develop meaningful options to establish a climate resilience as tier one priority and to report back to you when you have your discussion about priorities on January 14th. What we can together do is a community, as a county, and as with our partners at the federal and state level to get the funding and resources so that when disaster hits, we don't regret that we didn't take advantage of that money and time and opportunity and help and support. Thank you very much. Sure thing. Erin Pearce and Erin will be followed by Eric Ham and that's my last request to speak. So if anyone else wants to speak, grab a slit. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I'm a member of the Cal Poly faculty and also the director for the initiative for climate leadership and resilience, but I'm not speaking in any official Cal Poly capacity. I'd like to request that the county adopt climate resilience as a tier one board priority this coming January. In part, motivated by the fact that the planning and building report contains no mention of an update on the status of the county's climate action plan or cap. I believe the last official update to the county cap occurred in 2011. Updating the cap is an important step for positioning the county to take advantage of numerous opportunities for increasing community climate resilience, public health and safety and disaster preparedness, as you're apparently quite aware, on your earlier exchange with the supervisor Pauling. I would like to request an update on the status of the County's Climate Action Plan and also to offer assistance with its continued development. The initiative for climate leadership and resilience has a demonstrated track record of success in this area. Over the past three years we've brought in over $24 million in funding for deployment with community partners and to facilitate collaboration between campus teams and local organizations. For the city of Auroio Grande, we conducted a secret environmental constraints assessment of the Philip 66 refinery site for repurposing as a desalination plant. And we also did a comparative reassessment of different redevelopment possibilities for that site. We supported expansion and development of the Sustainable Land Initiative, a program of the Upper Salinas Las Tablas Resource Conservation District to accelerate the adoption of climate smart agriculture. For this project, we provided grant writing support, planning, creation of outreach materials, and website translation, and the design and fabrication of specialized agricultural equipment for use by the RCD. Two of our city and regional planning professors wrote the leading textbook on local climate action planning on our internationally to agricultural equipment for use by the RCD. Two of our city and regional planning professors wrote the leading textbook on local climate action planning on our internationally recognized experts in this area, work done by our faculty and their students has been incorporated into California legislation as part of the state's climate adaptation plan. So when considering work that may need to be done for a revised county cap, I encourage the county to consider tasks that may be incorporated into our project-based courses and executed by teams working in these areas. Cal Poly offers courses on climate action planning and on outreach with a focus on reaching multiple publics and difficult to reach populations. Additionally, we have courses on transportation planning, GIS analysis, and hazard mitigation and resilient design. We can also provide literature reviews or other research that can accelerate your efforts, for example, on compliance with state mandates. There are also other less domain-specific ways in which Cal Poly may be able to contribute, for example, with Spanish translation, social media creation, and data collection or analysis. So in conclusion, I emphasize that the adoption of a climate resilience as a board priority would provide avenues for saving money, unlocking new funding streams, and for leveraging local resources to increase county capacity. I look forward to an update on the status of the county's climate action plan and encourage you to connect with me about ways Cal Poly might assist the county's resilience efforts. Thank you. Eric, Thiem, and our last request then is Jacob McKneven. Unroll chair and members of the board. My name is Eric Veeam, resident of Slow County District 3 and board chair of the Slow Climate Coalition, a community organization working county-wide to create a just, vibrant, and climate-resilient central coast. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I stand before you to emphasize the strong and growing support within our community for prioritizing climate resilience in San Luis Obispo County. Across the county, among respected leaders, there is a deep and broad consensus that addressing climate change and preparing for its impacts must be central to our local policies and actions. From labor to business leaders, from public health professionals to social justice advocates, from students to faith-based organizations, and from numerous environmental leaders that are shared understanding that climate resilience is not just an environmental issue, but one that affects our economy, public health, and overall well-being. We've seen how extreme weather events, droughts, wildfires, flooding, and heat waves are already impacting our communities. The urgency to act is undeniable. Recent engagement with these stakeholders have demonstrated overwhelming support for climate resilience. These people are calling for the county to take a leadership role in integrating climate resilience into every aspect of governance. This means ensuring that our infrastructure is built with stand extreme weather, that vulnerable communities are protected, and that our local economy is adapted to thrive in a rapidly changing world. Your board has an opportunity to send a clear message to your staff, stakeholders, and constituents that send loose visible county will be proactive, not reactive. By adopting climate resilience as a tier one board priority in January, you will show that our county is ready to tackle the climate crisis head on, ensuring a safer, healthier, and more sustainable future for all of us. This is an investment in our communities, in our children's futures, and the long-term prosperity of this region. So today I ask you to do two things. First, within the context of planning and buildings priority setting today, we ask that you direct planning staff to return with a progress report on the status of the 15-year-old Energy-wise Climate Action Plan. And second, in preparation for the board priority setting meeting in January, that you direct your CAO to evaluate and prepare to support your board in making climate resilience a major board priority. I urge you to listen to the voices of the many community, business, and organizational leaders that will call on you in January to make climate resistance a priority for the Board of Supervisors. Thank you very much. Thank you. Jacob. Hi, and thank you for the opportunity to speak today. I'm Jacob McNevin, a resident of San Luis Bocawney, an engineer, a scientist, and independent scientist, researching the impact of energy efficiency choices in California. I'm here today to request the inclusion of a Climate Action Plan update in the planning building and priorities and ask the Board of Supervisors to adopt a Climate Resilience priority as a tier one priority. Updating the Climate Action Plan and empowering its actions with a climate resiliency priority enables the county to seize opportunities for elevating climate resilience, public wellbeing, and disaster preparedness. Without prioritization of climate resilience, the county will be challenged to organize towards meeting essential mandates, miss out on funding opportunities, and be confronted with reactionary costs in the long run. Primarily, in action on climate resilience, measures would mean our county is in noncompliance with state mandates. This noncompliance could result in missed funding opportunities, missed grants, and costly penalties. Additionally, without a comprehensive climate resilience plan in place, the county will be left to allocate its funds reactively. Responding to these disasters after they occur rather than strategically investing in preventative measures. This not only drains funds, but it also weakens long term financial stability. Finally, without prioritizing climate resilience, our community faces increased risk from wildfires, droughts, rising seas, and extreme heat. This leads to displacement of people, destroyed homes, and immense ecological and economic costs. Addressing climate resilience now minimizes these risks, protest our most vulnerable populations, and reduces the long-term damage to our local economy and environment. By updating the Climate Action Plan and by adopting a climate resilience as a board priority, you not only confront these present threats, you ensure that San Luis Obispo County is prepared for the future, protecting residents and resources for generations to come. Thank you. Thank you. That concludes our request to speak. We're gonna bring it back to the board. For comments and deliberations, this is a vote to receive and vials unless anyone has something else to do, providing direction of some kind, to revise your polling. I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I think that's why I appreciate staff's work too to compile these priorities and make these recommendations. I'm going to start with the climate resilience discussion first because that was just recent there in the public comment. But the reality is, is we are facing flood risk. We dealt with some major storm impacts last year of the year before to the extent of, you know, over $50 million in FEMA reimbursement that we're seeking. Wildfire prevention is, I think, something that everybody on this board really cares about. From a sea level rise standpoint, you know, how we harden our coast, how we deal with policies of the coastal commission around managed retreat. The reality is we don't have a lot of policy language, even in our legislative platform that gets specific about those things. And I do really look forward to having that discussion next year as a board around legislative priorities and how to memorialize what this board as it reflects the will of the majority of the community. You know, cares about and wants, and the positions it wants to take to represent slow county in some of these areas. We have a lot of great work going on in this area, right? 3CE, the programs it's going to provide to the unacorporated area, 3CE RAND, we're all around, we just talked about those today. So one of my goals is to make sure that we just do a good job at fully deploying all of the opportunities that are available through those existing programs versus adding anything new. Now, if we were able to obtain a grant to do a climate action plan update, I would be supportive of doing that. I'm not supportive of allocating discretionary resources at this time. Give it, give it our budget circumstances to, you know, funding that study. I will also say that it was highlighted by one of the public commenters, the opportunity associated with Proposition IV, well it will take years for that money to roll out. There's all kinds of good stuff in there. For example, a resilient center at a state fairground might be something that we pursue in North County to plan for heatwaves. There are mandates that we're facing too, like the electric vehicle mandate. And in many cases, you know, there isn't much flexibility with the state to transition our fleet to those electric vehicles. Now, I actually believe there are areas we need to be lobbying for to provide greater exemptions for us, especially for essential fleet vehicles and public works, disaster response,, etc. And again, I'd love to have those things planked in our legislative platform. So really looking forward to the discussion. We have storm recovery right now as one of our boards top priorities, budget priorities. I think we're going to need to shift that when we do talk about budget priorities next year. And maybe that could be some kind of resilience priority. One of our other ones is water resilience, as we talk about pursuing diesel, groundwater management, conservation, et cetera. Maybe we go land water and climate resilience, and then we articulate some of these things that we're talking about. So terminology matters because it signals that the board cares about these things, and I could just want to underscore that you know We in slow county already really doing a lot of this work But appreciate the comments made by the public. I certainly wouldn't mind from a planning and building standpoint moving Climate resilience into absolutely the tier two And then you know tier one if the board supports that Moving on to the the recommended Tier 1 priority list. Housing element implementation would be my first on the Tier 1 list. I do have some comments around the near term versus long term goals. Our ad hoc committee comprised of supervisor Ortiz Lake, myself, staff, members from the HBA, the nonprofit community, land use consultants, have been meeting, we've had two road bus meetings so far, the next step is for our planning and building department to meet with focus groups, with basically industry professionals, to review the recommendations that the ad hoc committee has made that staff has developed. And then to bring that ultimately back to the committee, back to the planning commission, and then to bring that, you know, ultimately back to the committee, back to the planning commission and then to our board. And I know there was a comment made about October of next year. I think we want to try to reduce that duration if we can and I hope that we can. So I look forward to that discussion. In terms of, again, going back down the list of recommended tier one priority projects, the POMO Community Plan update is a critical priority for me. We have the most growth and development occurring in that community right now. I had a meeting with a developer last week where we talked about this. You know, the fact that there were three separate development projects going on in one area. Without any coordination around traffic and circulation planning for that entire vicinity. Adding like 800 units in that vicinity. If we have a plan, we could work through those things. In this particular case, we actually had a dispute between planning and public works as to whether or not we're going to punch through a road, things like that. So, and then we have general plan amendments coming one off to our board, wanting to rezone properties from commercial to housing, et cetera. In many cases, they're good, and we have supported them as a board. But we need that cohesive plan and the community really wants that. So that is my number one priority after our general housing element framework implementation. And then Los Osos, I think it's time to lift the moratorium, the community plan, development and implementation, the associated habitat conservation plan implementation. And then I would love to see economic development and the element of the update of our general plan element that is specific to economic development moved into tier one, where we have those discussions about how we can leverage our contract with reach to update that and to, for the first time in a while since 2012, memorialize some specific goals and objectives around economic development in Slow County. And we could talk about childcare and broadband and obviously in excess to housing and maybe small business loans and there's so many different things in that realm. Of course zoning to me is our number one way to implement regional economic development goals and that's again, an excess and a tie back to the NEPOMO Community Plant Update. And then beyond that, code enforcement staffing is a critical priority for me. So I wanna make sure that we're fully staffed in that division. And then cannabis storefront retail, I think supporting that as we have, based on our last conversation as a board, where the Sheriff's Office is really taking the lead and bringing back that framework to our board so we can talk about how to roll that out in the coastal zone And then again, as I mentioned coastal climate resilience as a tier two I'd you know if this board's willing I'd put it on tier one as well and then just a final comment in response to Miss Jones comment about permit streamlining. I think it's critical that we continue to engage in permit streamlining processes and to Mike Brown's comment about data and reporting. We need statistics. We need permit tracking statistics. And I know that at times we get staff level reports, but I think we need that information to come to the board. We need the public to review that information and provide feedback so we can direct policy accordingly. And I haven't seen that yet. And so I would really look forward to developing a process where those statistics and even a work plan that has more specificity around timelines, you know, those performance metrics, the smart metrics, specific, measurable, achievable, realistic time bound, so we can actually ensure accountability in getting these goals and objectives accomplished. And then the slide talked about the annual ordinance, clean up, safety element update, minimal resource area, combining designation amendment, I support all those as well. Kate, supervisor Pashant? Yeah, so San Luis, Bishop of County, we have about a billion dollar budget, as you all know, close to a billion dollars. We have about 2,800 employees. We have 24 different departments, and they run 700 programs. If we're adding programs right now, we're gonna have to cut programs, because I don't think from a state budget or a county budget, we're going to be in the neighborhood of a billion dollars to be able to expand programs. So I think we need to think about that because that goes directly to economic vitality in the community and keeping people employed and keeping families here and being able to make it affordable. I look at the annual ordinance cleanup, which is the top of the list that came up on the priorities. I would actually recommend as we go forward to add some sort of language in there about long-term permits framing. I think that that would actually work. So it would say annual ordinance cleanup and long-term permit streamlining. I think that would help a do, and I agree with Supervisor Pauline in regards to the metrics on this, how many permits, how many do we move, how long were they in the system, and how we were able to get things actually accomplished. I could tell you there are projects that I approved in my first week on this board eight years ago that still haven't been built. So some of that relies with the people that are building them. Not being able to get fund raised financing and be able to build them about once they get their permits. But think about that, the 700 programs. We're going to be going through a top to bottom program by program analysis. And adding programs is probably not high on the priority list right now when we're talking about probably having to cut some of them the state governments right now. You have a new administration in Washington DC that will be coming in and I'm sure that there will be there will be issues there from a federal government standpoint too. So we should let our planning and building folks do their job kind of figure out you know what priorities are. We'll work with them. That's coming back in January. And I think it's January, is that correct? Or February? Or March or April? So we're based on your direction today. If there's nothing that we're changing on our party list, we would not return to the board until toward the end of next year. End of next year. And report out, yeah. Okay. Well, I'm supportive of this list. I mean, you all know how I am on the cannabis storefronts, but if it's on there that has three votes, it's moving forward, so I'm fine with that. But I would see if we could add in the permit streamlining on the after the annual ordinance cleanup, because we do that every year and we can get some real data on those ordinance. But something our planning director said, which was going after fat buckets of money, I think you use the word fat buckets, right? And I think that was your term. I'm gonna use that from now on, but I'm stealing that term. But there's not a lot of money out there. When you're talking about a billion dollar for our little county, you're talking about a billion dollar budget with 24 departments and 700 programs, we're gonna have to really kind of mind how we spend our money over the next few years. So, supervisor, T's that? Thank you. Thanks for everybody coming out with your comments and your concerns and it's always nice to see you, Claudia You're regards to the things that are important to everyone and I you know I salute supervisor Prashong for noting that we do have a lot on our plate and you know thanks to staff. I'm gonna just you know do it like I usually do say it how I feel about some of these things and to me I totally agree that at this point in time, it's housing housing. That is our economic development. As much as I know, it's important to have a plan and we will have a plan eventually, I think we've got to keep moving forward on every piece of housing that we can. And that's why in regards to, if we were going to number things, the housing element implementation. We did, for some reason, you know, we're moving forward on these things, but we did have the streamlining at a later area, and I don't really remember why that is. So do you want to respond to that? Sure, so Trevor Keith, planning a building. So we lumped kind of the phase one where we don't have to do any sequa the California environmental quality act review on phase one And so phase two with the more of the streamlining we're gonna have to do some sort of sequel on that So we kind of lump them into those buckets We know for sure we have to do sequel on that. Yeah, yes, 100% so I think that's again We can look at it. We can kind of frame it out with this kind of steering committee. You know, we can start, you know, moving that forward. Well, I thank you. Thank you very much. I mean, that makes sense. I, um, the first things that we're working on right now are the multi-family housing pieces. And I think that, you know, we need to move forward on that, and that's really critical. Maybe at our next meeting we can talk about is there's some movement to do something in regards to streamlining. I think in the streamlining perspective, even talking about the required ordinance cleanup, moving it faster. There's things that were just discussed today that could be done in somewhat of a... You know, my request is somehow we hasten the pace I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. I'm not sure if I can do it. make some adjustments in a fairly quick manner to get us to where we go so we don't have the same things on the list of free and it takes so long. I think that's really important to try to figure a way to do that. So faster, quicker and with the metrics. Can I, sorry, Chair McKean, can I just jump in on that? So I appreciate the desire for making things accelerate. But the process of reaching out to stakeholders and then through the process of notifying it, going to CACs, going through planning commission and then subsequently bringing it back to your board, it does take time. We understand that desire to move these things as fast as possible. And I think that's what we'll do if we get caught up in the steering committee or the subcommittees. We will message that in the steering committee or the subcommittees, we will message that to the steering committee and see what we want to do to move things faster. But again, it really, you know, changing words on the paper versus a lot of outreach and engagement. You know, it's running through the system and it does take some time of noticing. I can appreciate that and I, you know, often do need to be reminded how important that is and much is I think that our community itself is really looking for us to take action and to get some things done and so you know hopefully we can find a balance there between the two. If I just continue for just a little bit on the the code enforcement I think is another. We don't have it spelled out here, but again, we're seeing impacts to communities where we're definitely going to have to, so if we could just put in that into the ordinance cleanup, that would be something that I think we all agree upon. The code enforcement language and making sure that we have a robust process that's cost neutral in a sense. The other thing is on the cannabis. So I know it's on your list because eventually it's going to come to the planning and building because it does make its land use. In the meantime right now, we haven't had any chance to talk about this, but I did speak with the sheriff this morning, and I talked a little bit to the public health department to director Drew's. And what I was thinking is that right now to have the planner in the sheriff's department work on policy and that policy in regards to storefront cannabis would be incorporating things such as good governance in how we want to these cannabis one-offs that we're trying to do that would include things like reduce potency. Things that are not attractive to children. Also work with the cultivators in regards to education, because they are already doing programs in Monterrey County that have education components to be able to make sure that some of the money that is, the revenues are directed towards that aspect. And they could work on that right now, and that means that, you know, and then check in once and a while with you guys, but not having them be at a burden to be on a priority list. That's what I was thinking, that it's going to take some time to come up with some of those guidelines in order to say, we want to do this a little bit differently here. And so, those are my thoughts on that one. On the climate action plan, you know, I, first off, I want to say that when it comes to being in compliance with items in regards to, in the state that has probably the most strict and highest level of requirements regarding climate and electrification and carbon reduction that we already, we are in compliance. We already do a lot. Unfortunately, we don't have it all on a book and a shelf that says what it is. And I think that that's our one concern is that, you know, we definitely need to inventory where all the things that we are doing in regards to resilience and all the things that we're mandated to do and all the things that are yet to be done. So it's not even though we haven't had an outwardly expression here at the county inwardly internally we are doing a lot and I think that we have to what I would suggest is that we actually put a conversation an item on 2025 agenda to discuss and to try to put together you know what we can do in regards to try to begin to put the building bricks of a plan. But let's see where we're at. As, as he said, what's the problem we're trying to solve? We need to put all these things in a category so it's all together so we can say yes, we are a climate plan. Here it is. That's one thing that I think there would be a better way to approach this, and that I have requested from our 3CE partnership, some funding to help pay for something like that. And as far as vehicular transportation, some of the other ways that they may be able to sponsor a portion of that. So I think we can continue to look towards ways to make that happen without adding another burden on us. And I'm sorry to to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. I can't wait to see what happens. we're not doing anything. When again, we are the home of the largest clean energy generator in the entire state. And that is 24-7 generating enough energy for 3 million Californians. You know, it's not like we're sitting around here not doing anything and have other big utility scale projects and things like that. So I think all of that comes together in a big conversation, not in a conversation that's piecemeal at this point. And so that's where I am on these items. Thank you. Supervisor Gibson. Thank you, Madam Chair. Let me pick up from that last comment, Supervisor Ortiz Leg. I think that's really the key to understanding where we should go from here is not to go after these things piecemeal. As I look at the proposals in the staff report, I think they're basically fine. I think planning and building has looked at their workload and I think put into tier one an amount of work that is both timely and feasible to accomplish. I would say that in previous years, at least in the last time we looked at planning and building priorities, we had a list of full-time equivalents attached to each one of those priorities and a timeline for that. Getting back to that at some point, whether that's a memo you can circulate to the board, or however you want to do it is useful. Because that leads me to the second thought. And that is that I think we really need to look carefully at what's in front of us today, which is direction to planning and building based largely on, mostly on previous board direction, for the detail of how they're gonna organize their work plan. The conversation has branched over reasonably, but I think a little broadly to talk about what the Board of Supervisors as a whole might set up as its priorities and that conversation is to occur next month. So I think keeping it clear what we're doing today and what we might do based on a future conversation is important. And when we talk about the board priorities, I think one of the things we need to do is have the CAO complete and report back to us on his financial rebalancing and resilience efforts to really look into the details of how this organization works, where the resources are deployed, where the possibilities for efficiencies exist, where we might repurpose resources to accomplish things that the board seeks seeks to have done. And in partnership with that, it is the board's responsibility to develop a strategic vision. And let's be honest, we have not been strong in doing that over recent years. We do not have an encompassing strategic vision. We have spoken about our priorities on a year by year basis and had down in the weeds conversations about what we should do more of or less of in terms of the budget and so far as far from a strategic plan. You look around at our, at our sister counties, particularly comparable in size and situation to us, they have much more fully developed strategic visions. So that speaks to then a couple of the things that have come up in the conversation that I would suggest don't really need to be pushed forward or shouldn't be pushed forward until this board develops its strategic vision in considerable more depth, strength, and detail. For instance, the economic analysis. That's listed as a tier two project. It doesn't, yes, it's a budget priority, but others within this county have been working on it and we don't have a strategic vision of what this board should articulate within an element of our general plan. And so until we do, I think it's fine to let that sit into or to, and in fact, just put it on pause until we do that. In a way, similarly, climate action and resiliency, we are frankly behind in taking up local actions on climate resiliency. We may have quite a lot of clean energy being generated in this county from a variety of different locations, but that's different from the county adopting the very specific actions that it needs to take to look at our, for instance, greenhouse gas footprint within the county organization and operation and within our communities as a whole. We are behind in getting an update as regards where we are on the goals specifically outlined in our energy wise plan, which is the title of our climate action plan. I think we should do that. I think we should first, though, develop the board's strategic vision on why we want to do it, what problem we want to solve and the light. I think the meeting with the CAO, I know the climate coalition's worked on a number of detailed proposals. And I think it should be part of our priority discussion in January. I think getting an update on our energy-wise plan would be great how we fund that is a concern. But I think that again is outside a bit outside where we are. The county-owned land inventory, we're working on that. I think that's going to happen. I think there's a wide field there of getting more information about the built environment in this county. I've got some ideas that I've developed in conversations with colleagues actually in the state of Hawaii who've done a very comprehensive approach to that. Dark skies, I love dark skies. I would love to move it right up to the top of the list. I don't think it's realistic unless planning could find some de minimis things that could be added to ordinance cleanup if they could look again at dark skies. If there's a de minimis thing that could be added to ordinance clean us to find, but I think just to be honest and I know my constituents in Canberra are very passionate about this. I don't see it moving off of tier two at this point. And finally, we've got some process things versus project things, and I think again it would be useful for us to keep those separate. We have committed to a long term effort to streamline permitting and to make it the most efficient and least costly it possibly can be. My understanding is that effort continues. You know, similarly on the other side, ordinance cleanup is a project specific, a very detailed kind of thing. And I think it's useful to keep those two things separately. I think it's useful for our board members to continue to be in conversation with the Planning Department management to understand that we are moving forward on getting our process refined as quickly and as effectively as we can. So back to the basics here. I think the recommendations that are presented to us are good. I think we should endorse them. I think we should then spend some time thinking about the details of some of the materials that come up like climate action and resiliency and what we mean by having an economic element and bring that back to our conversation on the 14th of January to have further details. I'm happy to offer a motion to any of that if it's the chair's desire. Go ahead, Patera. Supervisor Teaslin. Yeah, thank you. I did want to note that I missed talking about NAPOMO and we had already had stated as a hoard earlier that we did want to make sure that NAPOMO continues on because it is a large area of growth and really does need to have that. The other thing I wanted to mention is that, because I think that was very well put, Supervisor Gibson. I really agree with all the colleagues that have spoken so far in regards to where we are and what we should be doing and our job as a board. I would be really helpful if on a monthly basis perhaps, or maybe every other month that the planning and building could come back and give us a 15 minute, just a priority update on where we are. Because we go through these big, long parts of time, where things are, where we can kind of have a little bit more fresh update on. Oh yeah, that's right, we're just focused on this right now. Is that a possibility? Anybody think about that? So, guys, our tea's legs. Since you brought the issue, I think that we certainly can find a way to get regular updates to the board and to the public on how things are going. And work with Trevor on what that format and delivery would be. We certainly can do a lot of different ways. So let us put our minds together and see what we can give to you. Yeah, I don't want it to be a burden, but I do think that we seem to have these big chunks of time go by, and then we see the same list and we kind of feel. I think for us it's also helpful to be mindful of what we've committed to here today and that we want to stay on track. So I don't know if my other colleagues would think about that. I certainly have some comments but Chair, you haven't made your comments yet so I'll plan on making a motion too. Well I think I would support supervisors Gibson. I think motion that is really essentially staff's recommendation about receiving and filing these reports and also the annual general plan progress report for now. Is that kind of- Plus direction, yeah. Oh, plus some direction, okay. Let me hear from supervisor. We'll see. And you can all decide whether you think the motion in caps like you. Sounds good. Yeah. Where would you like to go for a beer later? There was one piece supervisor Gibson that you didn't mention in your comments and that was about code enforcement. And so I would like to memorialize something. I will. I'm coming there. You're gonna make a motion at that if you don't mind. Then honestly, to a supervisor or T's leg's point, we could bless this today and I think we're going, I know we're going to, but to Super Gibson, Supervisor Gibson's point. Super Gibson. We have seen a level of effort before associated with each of these items with dates and durations at least quarters for next year. I want to see that. So when is that going to come back based on the direction we give today? And then, I guess my final point was just about the definition of streamlining. When we talk about, to Supervisor Pashong's point of adding that to the annual update of some sort or the ordinance cleanup. Our ad hoc committee, the action related to streamlining permitting reads as follows. Just I'll just read it real quick so we're on the same page. Develop clear and purposeful development standards that can allow for property owners and developers to design housing projects that are consistent with general plan and community plan policies while significantly contributing to the unincorporated counties unmet. Reena objectives. It goes on to talk about the difference between discretionary and ministerial review. And I know that when we talk about form-based codes or objective design standards, really what we're trying to do is engage the community upfront to say, for this area we want to simplify the standards, we're going to approve it kind of like in an overlay and then you go through the process and we make it really easy for you. That's what triggers Sikha, I get that. When we're talking about and I'm glad that our committee is pursuing that objective in accordance with the timeline that we've established. When we talk about making the process work better, the permit process work better, we need data as decision makers to help inform what action we might take. And that goes back to the need for all the statistics. And I think another discussion around what we can do to address that, whether it's staff resources, whether it's an operational assessment that an outside consultant would perform. And I guess I'm unclear as to when our board is gonna see that information again, going back to Don's point about, you know, is it a regular update? A quarterly update? Do we have a work plan that's a follow through of this board direction that comes back with some statistics early next year. I'll hand it off to the motion maker to craft accordingly. Thank you, sir. Let me try. Here we go. I move we endorse the priority recommendations presented in our staff report and direct staff to return within the first quarter of next year with the specifics of FTEs and timelines to accomplish each one. Make that the first report to our board as to the details of how we're proceeding. In addition, I would have my motion be to direct staff, specifically the CAO to give us a timeline on completing his review of financial rebalancing and resilience. And when that report would be available for the board to consider, that's number one. Number two would be to engage conversation with staff about developing a strategic vision for an economic element to update to our general plan and an update and report on our climate action plan and climate resiliency efforts to be presented to this board at a point that we determine. Second, those two topics as specific things that are part of our general plan that we'd like to see discussed and updated. And then third direct planning staff to continue process improvements specifically on all matters but specifically on our efforts at code enforcement and permit streamlining. And again report to the board when appropriate as to what efforts have been accomplished there. I'll second, I would say just modify your last inclusion of when appropriate to be first quarter of next year. First quarter. And let me just ask if staff is clear understanding and capable of the direction so given. Yes, I think it's clear what your board wants and we can bring it back in the first quarter based on a docket time available. Okay. Supervisor, it's clear over here as well. Thank you. Okay. We have a motion in the second. Any other comments? I'm sorry. Okay. We have a motion in the second. Any other comments? Sorry. Chair Oman Arnold. Can I jump in real quick? On this item, the question came up on code enforcement. The GOV OES hotline number. And that number is 805-723-2500. And we will put it more prominently on our website. It's currently two clicks in. So we will put it more prominently on our website. It's currently two clicks in so we will put it on the front page so it's easier for folks to find. And then I just wanted to reiterate that the cannabis retail framework that is tentatively coming back in March of next year. Rearboards consideration. And then just to reiterate the housing framework will be back in April for your board's consideration. Just some things that are coming back as well next year. Thank you. the information that we have in the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of but updates to the general plan, economic updates or whatever other kind of updates. It just sounds to me like after all this talking about trying to permit streamlining, which I would support and doing some streamlining or finishing up the things that we've been working on since before I came. And just about the time we talked about that, we decided to update the general plan in a certain area. So those, all by themselves, my experience has been our big undertakings I I don't think this makes sense but let's call for the question. We have a motion in a second supervisor Gibson. Yes, supervisor Paul Dean. Yes, supervisor Prasam. Yes, supervisor T's leg. Yes, and triple seminal no Okay, that's gonna take us to Item number 31 and we'll ask boy are you ready? I'll give you a second because in that you're going to enter just a very long item here. I'll summarize it. Okay, thanks. Item number 31, a request for consideration and action on items related to the Lasosos community development activities. Receive and file discussion on growth management ordinance title 26 of the county code as related to the Lososos community development activities. Receive and file discussion on growth management ordinance title 26 of the county code as it relates to conversion of existing second floor commercial area to residential use some Lososos and provide direction as appropriate. Receive and file discussion on the growth management ordinance as it relates to approximately 75 day period to submit complete construction permit applications for properties on the Lososos wait list to build batches and provide direction as appropriate. Great and we have a return of our super stars here Mark and Trevor. Thank you Madam Chair members of the board presented today will be Claire Momberger project planner and Cory Han division manager All right, thank you Good afternoon chairperson Arnold and other members of the board my name is Claire Momberger I'm a planner with the Long Range section of our county's planning and building department. Your board took historic action to lift the building moratorium on October 29th of this year. Today's meeting is a follow-up to that action. Over the next few slides, we'll go over a summary of October 29th in the details for today's meeting. Today's presentation is not quite as long as the October 29th meeting. However, I have not been able to kick a cold that I came down with last week, so I'm going to be taking frequent water breaks. Thank you in advance for your patience. I'd like to walk through what you will hear about in today's presentation. We'll start with some background for today's discussion. Then we'll dig into the implementation of the Los Osos Habitat Conservation Plan. Then we'll hear about the two discussion points relating to the growth management ordinance from October 29th. That is the conversion of existing commercial floor area and the construction permit application in the middle. Then we'll cover the environmental determination and finally conclude with staff's recommendation to your board. Let's familiarize everyone with some key terms that are crucial to today's discussion. You will hear these four terms in their acronyms used throughout the presentation. At first, the Lososos Habitat Conservation Plan, the LOHCP, is the holistic and balanced approach to address special habitat concerns in Losososos. In effect, the LOHCP streamlines an adds certainty to the land use process for property owners and agencies, and holistically facilitates conservation of high habitat value in and around Los Osos. Next, the US Fish and Wildlife Service, or the Service, who is the federal agency that approved the LOHCP and issued the county's incidental take permit. The incidental take permit is what effectively allows the county to confer take coverage of specific activities that are related to development. Next, the growth management ordinance or the GMO is Title 26 of our county code and determines the growth rate for specific communities in the county based on resource constraints. Finally, the Lososos wait list to build or the wait list, which has existed for almost 30 years and was intended to create a method of prioritization for vacant lots once development can occur in the community. To establish some context, we'll go through the background of the discussion by refreshing ourselves with what happened on October 29th, including the action the building moratorium on vacant parcels in Los Osos and implemented the Coastal Commission's suggested 1% growth rate through amendment of the GMO, the growth management ordinance, to establish a conservative growth strategy. On top of that, your board directed staff to bring back two discussion items today. The first is the LOHCP implementation package, and the second is discussion on the GMO, the growth management ordinance, as it relates to two specific situations. That is the conversion of existing second floor commercial area to residential use, and the 75-day period to submit construction permit applications for properties on the Lososos wait list to build in batches. All right, with that background, we'll jump into the recommended implementation package for the LOHCP. The foundation of the implementation of the LOHCP is what's called the stay ahead provision. The LHCP is designed to require that the county first accrue mitigation coverage and then offer take coverage to project proponents. So the county cannot confer take coverage to project proponents without first achieving habitat benefits for protected species. And a couple of points just for clarity for this discussion. You'll hear and see this term take coverage. Take as defined by the Endangered Species Act is to harass, harm, pursue, etc., any listed species. And harm includes significant habitat modification. And then when we mention a project proponent just for further clarity that's anyone who is proposing an activity that results in ground disturbance so this could be a private property owner county public works or a water purveyor in the community. Moving through with this content the state had provision this provisional concept, ensures that the potential impacts from new development will not outpace the habitat benefits. Because the county would take on activities that result in habitat benefits, and then could issue the credits to project proponents. Essentially, there are two categories of activities that the county can take on to create those habitat benefits. One is the restoration of habitat, and the other is the acquisition of land in the form of fee title or easement to conserve on properties that have significant habitat value. Those activities essentially earn the county take coverage. After completing the activity, the county then can confer the take coverage that was earned to project proponents in the form of a certificate of inclusion, which I'll refer to as a COI, and is a term in the last bullet point on the screen here. A COI is like a clearance. Essentially the project proponent agrees to meet conditions that are consistent with LHCP and the county's incidental take permit. They then pay a mitigation fee and then they get the COI, which again is their clearance to proceed because they have met the requirements to address habitat concerns. This process would provide project proponents with predictability in their permitting process because they will know that if they pay the fee and agree to the conditions, they will get coverage for their project. So the project proponent can see a clear pathway forward. So in the previous slide we described those two types of activities, land acquisition and habitat restoration that the county would pursue to accrue mitigation credit. In this table here on this slide compares the strengths and weaknesses of those two activities. The just for visual cues the bold text in this pointer so everyone can see on the screen. Row one here, generally speaking, land acquisition results in immediate mitigation credit versus habitat restoration where mitigation credits have to be accrued over time and require that the county prove that restoration is working. Row two here for comparison. Land acquisition is obviously dependent upon willing sellers because the county would be pursuing acquiring private property that has high habitat value. First is habitat restoration, which does not depend on private land owners being willing to sell because habitat would be restored on properties that are already within the preserved system. Row three here and continuing in that same vein of thought. Even if the county finds a willing seller of a property, there's no guarantee that the property owner will want to sell to the county at an acceptable sales price. Versus the habitat restoration route, which if pursued, there's an opportunity immediately for restoration, because habitat would again be restored on property that's already within the preserved system. Row four here. Land acquisition as an activity is not dependent upon the success of restorative fieldwork, because immediate mitigation credit is earned through acquiring the property with high habitat value. Versus habitat restoration, which is a process and the success of that process is highly dependent upon the field work. And then the final comparison in this table in row five, the last row here relates to the cost of each activity. We would expect land acquisition to require high upfront cost when compared to habitat restoration, because land acquisition involves purchasing a large property right off the bat, as opposed to habitat restoration, where the cost incur at a slower pace. However, if habitat restoration is unsuccessful within the anticipated time frame, restoration efforts would have to continue until success criteria are met. So the cost of a prolonged restoration effort could stack up over time. Now that we have a better understanding of what the two routes are for implementation, we can walk through the phased approach to implementation. The phased approach allows staff to bring back to your board portions of the implementation and sizable chunks, allowing us to kick off occurring mitigation credits on an as needed basis and evaluate what the next best step is for the upcoming phase. to get the bill to be approved. We will take off a curing mitigation credits on an as needed basis and evaluate what the next best step is for the upcoming face. Let's discuss first funding and staffing. Starting with the internal loan amount which is proposed to be up to $2 million and would be drawn down on an as seeing as much demand as is anticipated in the community, draw down of the loan will decrease. This functions similarly to a line of credit. And this is an amount that would allow the county to address the anticipated near-term demand in Los Osos. Moving down this list, the loan source would be general fund contingencies. The loan terms would consist of a drawdown period of three years and a payback period of three years. How that would play out is the credit term limit would be for three years to be used on an as needed basis with a three year payback period. And so drawdown would occur from years one through three and then payback would occur in years three through three and then pay back would occur in years three through five. So in year three there would be a one year overlap of drawdown and pay back. The repayment source is the mitigation fees that project proponents will pay and again project proponents is includes private property owners, county public works and over the water purveyor in the community. And then finally, a new 0.5 FTE senior planner position would be necessary to implement the program. Now let's walk through the recommended direction for phase one of implementation. The mitigation credit accrual activity would focus on fee title or easement acquisition for conservation to enroll land with high habitat value. Excuse me for habitat conservation. In addition, it is a condition of the county's incidental take permit to prepare what's called an adaptive monitoring and management plan for the services requirements. If the implementation package includes the county's collaboration with other agencies. Much of the habitat boots on the groundwork would require partnership with an implementing entity. And from an efficiency standpoint, staff has identified the land conservancy of San Luis Obispo County to serve as an implementing entity. The land conservancy is a nonprofit land trust that has successfully conserved more than 67,000 acres of land in our beautiful county by working cooperatively with landowners and government agencies to find positive mutually beneficial solutions. Next, in addition, the county's to find positive mutually beneficial solutions. Next, in addition, the county's incidental take permit, which as a reminder, we discussed on October 29th, but the incidental take permit is valid for 25 years, starting in February 15th of earlier this year. That take permit requires that an endowment fund is established for a post permit habitat conservation administration, management, and monitoring. The county would work with the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation to set up the endowment fund, ensuring that there would be sufficient funding for administration and management of land that's enrolled in the preserved system and perpetuity. And the fund would be supplied by a set aside of a portion of the fees that are collected from project proponents. And the amount to be set aside is determined based on a conservative assumption of a net 3% capitalization rate. Now we'll speak to the financial considerations of the implementation package starting with the funding request. On September 25th of this year, the debt advisory committee recommended approval of the internal loan based on the unique combination of factors that are present in Lososos. and then staff is proposing the phased implementation approach, meaning that if there is demand after phase one, the department will return with a phase two request to your board. And next today's item includes the introduction of a fee ordinance, and staff will return to your board for final consideration of that ordinance in February of next year. Lastly, the LHCP mitigation fees would result in the establishment of an endowment fund for those post-perman management activities that we spoke to on the previous slide. If the county does not implement the LHCP, there is a mandated alternative for project proponents to participate in the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services program. The services program is functionally similar to the counties where projects resulting in ground disturbance would pay a fee based on ground disturbance amount. For comparison, the services fee is $2.73 per square foot of ground disturbance, where the county's LHCP fee would be $1.95 per square foot of ground disturbance. To play this out in an example, if a property owner wants to build a 2,000 square foot house on their 6,000 square foot lot going through the services program. The property owner would pay $16,380 in mitigation fees versus going through the county's LHCP program. The property owner would pay $11,700 in mitigation fees, assuming that $1.95 square per square foot fee. The cost difference here is $4,680 for project proponents. Now we will shift gears into discussion of the GMO, the Growth Management Ordnance. As a reminder, this discussion is a two-parter and is according to your board's direction that was given to staff on October 29th. We'll first cover the conversion of existing commercial floor area to residential units under the county's GMO. Addressing housing affordability, the housing affordability crisis in our state is a driving factor in many land use policy decisions in recent years. The county's GMO addresses this by reserving 25% of the annual maximum allocation to key contributing housing types, like affordable housing and accessory dwelling units in Los Osos. If a project was proposed today that converts existing second floor commercial space to residential use as a part of an affordable housing project, that unit would be eligible for the 25% reserve of allocations that I just spoke to on the last slide. To reserve allocations for a non-affordable housing project that proposes to convert existing second floor commercial space to residential space, the GMO may be amended to include such projects as eligible for reserved allocations. And then the second part of the GMO discussion left over from the October 29th hearing is about the construction permit applications to middle timeline in Los Osos. The Lososos wait list started in 1989 for undeveloped lots that were under a building moratorium in the Lososos sewer service area. That wait list currently contains lots representing more than 400 units, that is more than 350 single family units and 150 multi-family units. Not all undeveloped lots in the sewer service area have requested to be on the wait list, but the lots that are on the wait list are at various levels of readiness to build. So this wide range of scenarios poses a need to balance the approach so that a, wait list positions of lots are honored, and the approach is not holding up lots that are ready to build. The wait list procedures that are established in the growth management ordinance provide three phases for allocation of the wait list to play out throughout the course of the calendar year. Phase one occurs from January 1 through June 1, where the first priority of allocated units is given to lots that are on the wait list and is based on wait list position. And then notice of position and batch number will be given the property owners in advance of deadlines. Phase two would occur from July 1 through August 1 where any remaining unused allocation would become available to the entire wait list and the wait list would be used to establish priority. And then finally phase three would occur from October 1 through December 31 where any remaining unused allocations become available to all properties in the sewer service area regardless of wait list position. Wait list position is honored in this system. So there is predictability there for property owners and property owners have about 75 days to prepare construction permit applications and get them submitted. In addition to the 75-day window, staff will be sending out advanced noticing to property owners so they know exactly what to expect well before any deadlines come to pass. If some waitlist property owners decide during the periods of priority that they are not ready to build, the opportunity at that point in the year will be provided to those who are ready to build. In the wait list procedures as is, there is an emphasis on a property owner's readiness to build. Allocation is utilized in a sign during the construction permit process as opposed to the land use permit process. The land use permit process can vary in length depending on specific site characteristics, the complexity of the proposed project, or the adequacy of the application for the proposed project. And those components of the land use permit process are unique to every situation that walks through the door. And so it is difficult to say that 180 days could capture the entire land use permit process without unnecessarily preventing another lot in the community from building, which could lead to the underutilization of allocation. Now we'll go over the environmental determination. On December 15th of 2020, the board certified a final environmental impact report for the LHCP pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act and that action relating to the LOHCP before your board today is covered by this final EIR. And finally, staff recommends that the board take action according to the recommendation as it's outlined in the staff report. And staff is available for any questions. Supervisor Kipsen, did you have questions? There are no lights on. No questions. Okay, then we're going to go, we're going to go to public comment. And we have a few requests to speak. We'll start with Jeff Edwards, followed by Emily. Emma. Thank you, Madam Chair. Good evening, board members. My name is Jeff Edwards. As much as I'd like to see the HCP proceed today, it's still not right-sized for Lososos, particularly how the money's plan for expenditure. The HCP implementation wasn't ready in October, and it remains unready today. To complicate matters further, we've just learned about the service's own habitat conservation plan, which we know very little about, except that it involves the same species and ostensibly the same geographic area, but we don't know the details. And moreover, I'd like to know why they advance such a competing habitat conservation plan. It's going to compete with the art plan, the county's plan, for dollars. And that's the last thing we want. LoSoso's wants one habitat conservation plan for the community that we could all access an efficient plan. And it's about simplification. The plan today remains too complicated. And we need to access the reduced take alternative in the HCP, which mirrors the needs in Los Osos. And I'd like to offer some other ideas that would quite possibly simplify this and allow implementation to proceed more quickly. For example, the BAR for $2 million, I support that, but not until this HCP is right sized. There's the new half time position. I suggest that we hire a new full time position in the planning department that can be the HCP coordinator, somebody that a new graduate, energetic with a biology background and a computer skills. That's all we need. This is basic data maintenance. Additionally, this MOU with the land conservancy, the land conservancy is overqualified for this job. You've heard they do big things. This is a small deal. They're not a good fit for us. The RFP for the Interim management monitoring plan, that's premature. Let's get this right size. Then we can pursue these other pieces, the endowment that you've heard of. It's 25% of the $43 million that will come into this program over the next 25 years. $11 million that the N that the, that the, NIFWIFT is going to hold. Why would we have such a bloated endowment when the management functions after this permit, ends are not that substantial. There's no urgency to taking action on this today. We have to live with this for the next 25 years. Let's get it right the first time. I'd like to see this postpone for short period of time until early next year. Thank you. Okay. Emily and Emily I'll be followed by David Gray. Thank you. I mis timed my meter. My name is Emily Eure. I'm a senior planner at Oasis Associates. We are land consultants based in San Luis Pespo. Oasis represents several property owners with holdings in Lososos. And we've keenly followed the various elements needed to allow development in Lososos. One that briefly addressed the discussion related to the GMO, that was in your staff report. As referenced on page six, we encourage the board to direct staff to bring back that modification to the GMO to include conversion of existing second floor commercial space. As part of that 25% allocation reserved for key contributing housing types. This provides a path for development for mixed use development of existing structures as an efficient housing type on its own merits while continuing to honor the wait list for vacant properties. With that implementing the GMO in Los Osos, we'll be its own unique process and we encourage the Board to direct staff to increase the timeline to submit applications. Since the Lososos GMO program is not a route or a established process, it's one that county staff and property owners will need to navigate together. We've discussed with staff their vision and predictions of how this will proceed and there's mutual agreement that clear communication and flexibility will be key. Since the GMO is reviewed annually anyway, we would encourage the board to direct staff to provide a specific analysis in next year's report, addressing the success and or challenges with implementing the Lososos GMO with recommendations for any changes based off of that experience. Relatedly, we also remain concerned about the availability of tile 19 retrofits, the reliance on private property owners willingness to participate, and the undetermined and variable costs to obtain certifications. This cannot be fully left up to developers and property owners to implement the county and water purveyors need to be proactive in supporting the program, creating an organized process and continue to seek innovative solutions. And finally, regarding the HCP, what we're all here for, we encourage the board to adopt and fund the HCP. Without the HCP, all the work completed to create the regulatory framework for build out capacity for the community will be for not. Try as we might, there is no perfect plan. But the HCP and the funding request before you today provides a feasible path forward for the community so at the time to take action is now. We appreciate the effort staff and elected officials have taken to get to this point. Los Ososis is going to be a complicated regulatory biome, which must include the snails and their HCP. Thank you for your careful and thoughtful consideration. Thank you. David Gray will be followed by Janet Davis. Chair Arnold and Supervacius, thanks for allowing me to speak. Point, this is all part of this long time we've been waiting to get to this point of being able to build on Los Uses again. I want to thank everybody who's had a part in that. I encourage the board to adopt the LHCP with the full $2 million funding. There's really no feasible way to build and loss ourselves without the HCP. Yes, it'd be nice to have a less costly and a way to do it, find some cost savings. I always thought the endowment could be 10 or 15% rather than 25%. But again, I reiterate, the HCP needs to be approved today. I would like to see the growth management ordinance modified to add conversion of existing commercial space to residential as a housing type, including the 25% allocation reserve for key contributing housing types. This would open up lower cost market rate housing. Most of this would probably be rentals which are desperately needed in the Las Usos. I would also like to encourage you to look over in the next year to come ways to make like we just heard the title 19 retrofits easier to obtain. Supply properties to retrofit is low and hard to come by now, and will only become more difficult in the future. Thank you so much. Thank you. Janet Davis followed by Nancy Vimla. I'm here again. I am totally impressed by the way with the discussion that went on before this discussion and how carefully you are all trying to deal with the budget issues and services and girls and development within our county. I am again a member, I live in Los Osos. I am not sophisticated in much of what you were saying today, but I do know this much. I would like you to approve the $2 million to get this going. In other words, which is a fourth fifth vote, that allows for us to go into the next step for the development in Los Osos. Maybe I see it to black and white, but I see that as the step that says there's a commitment to Los Osos, to the development, to what you've been talking about over time. And I know people in Los Osos will benefit, but also it will allow for a belief in and a continued support of the board of supervisors in all of the complexities of what you are dealing with. So I'm still supporting it. I still want this to happen for Los Osos. Thank you. Okay. Now, let's see, Vimla, all of my Lindy Hatcher. Hello, thank you for letting me speak. And I'm a loss so so's resident and my son has a piece of property he would like to build on so I would like to see this all go forward. the HCP and whether buying the land or restore restoration. I got a little confused on that, but I think the Habitat Conservation Plan is really important. And I hope that you approve it and that, and thank you so much for let you know pushing forward that that we will be able to build again in Las Osos and that it's and it's carefully planned. I like that 1% if it you know if there's need if water is needed then the building stops I think that's important. So thank you very much. And thank you. Thank you. And our last request to speak would be, Lindsay. And if anyone else wishes to speak, grab a yellow. Hi, Linda Hatcher, representing the home builders association of the Central Coast. First, we are excited to hear about the Second Floor Convergence, and we notice that it's just for the Affordable Housing component, and we're asking you to consider affordable housing to moderate housing for those rentals, because it's hard to find and produce affordable housing and hard to provide housing for our workforce that we need. We're looking at the predictability and the pathway forward. We definitely need the LOHCP approved so people can end the 30-year building moratorium. We also just want to point out that we still feel like that this is centering the preservation on the backs of new building and remodels. So I don't know how to get around that, but it feels like a tax on new building. The readiness to build was sudden, so we just want to make sure that the people that are on this 75 day timeline, if they're on the list, that they get to stay on the list, if they can't suddenly come up with all the permits and everything needed to get their project going in 75 days, that they won't lose their place. We would love to see a growth metrics and see the water usage and how it's going. And we don't agree that the water for new housing, if it's in the conversion, second floor conversion that's already commercial and already counted in the growth rate. We would like to keep that water and that growth rate separated if that makes sense. And then the retrofit, I mean, we have people, I live in Los Osos, they're talking to me. People are knocking on my door. People keep calling me and asking, can the county get a list of people, solicit a list and say, these are the people that want retrofits, knock on their doors and give people a list because some people don't want to disturb their current plumbing. They don't want a toilet that flushes a teeny bit instead of what they have. So, I think that's a very interesting thing to see. So, I think that's a very interesting thing to see. So, I think that's a very interesting thing to see. So, I think that's a very interesting thing to see. So, I think that's a very interesting thing to see. So, I think that's a very interesting thing to see. So, I think that's a very comment bring it back to the to the board. I'm ready. Yeah. So I wanted to ask the Home Builders Association. Yes or no. I'm going to put you on the spot, Lindy. I know you have a lot of questions and I'm going to ask those in a second. A lot of questions. So yes, we need this. Okay. And because 12,000 dollars a home is a lot of money in addition to all of the other things that people are going to have to do. It is. And what it does is it establishes a process and sets a baseline that it won't go over that amount. Whereas dealing with fish and wildlife, they're my least favorite federal agency. I used to work with all of them at my last job. And least favorite, they take the longest, they're the hardest to deal with. And that uncertainty in the project timeline and expense we see as a benefit moving forward with this. But my other concerns still stand. Right. Well, and go ahead. You wanted us to ask something. No, I just wondered, Lindy, I was unaware there even was a fish and wildlife HCP going at the same time until this week when we all started to prepare for this meeting. So the, the, what I'm trying to, I guess, weigh way out I don't think any of us know the answer including planners is okay well we can see from the staff report that the the the the is most likely going to be a cost difference per square foot but that does not count the rest of it if the county takes all this on. I guess my question to you was was you were you aware that there was an alternative and even the staff report says this is a functional similar to us doing it H.C.P. but if we're doing it and they're doing it someone mentioned that's competition number one to where people are gonna go. But number two, well, it's my turn, I'll talk. I just wanted to be sure you were aware. And if you knew that if you had had a chance, if you were aware to kind of weigh the cost and benefit of which direction go, I understand what you're saying. It's hard. Yeah, when you're looking at disturbing the ground on a remodel, say you wanna add on a deck, you're looking at a finite, remodel, a finite amount of land. And that might be better off, if the person negotiated themselves, but when you're looking at putting in a driveway and a house, that unpredictability and dealing with that agency specifically, and the cost, and the time back and forth for a homeowner to do the deliberation, we see a benefit in having that done as a blanket. But I just wanna make sure that we're not preserving a preserve with this, we're actually preserving a rat of snail and two weeds or plants in a separate area. It could be weeds, slow-sourced. sorry. Thank you for letting me grab a question. Well, okay, so a couple quick questions said for staff. We heard about the conversion to commercial. We can do, I guess we could do that if we wanted to say if we wanted today. Okay. And then the second one is David's gone so I wanted to ask him a question but I think I didn't really I mean after reading this I was really kind of just disturbed about the $12,000 because we're adding it onto, but it will move projects forward. And I've heard that they're supporting the community and allow basically people to have some hope. The 75 days, I think it was the 75 days question. So if they're on there and then they can't get the money together or that it slows it down, do they get pushed off the list? They do not. So they would be able to stay on the list until they can get it together. Yeah, Cory Hahn planning and building. And that's correct. So if a property owner is not ready when they are caught upon and based on their place in line, it would remain on the position that they have or remain. Okay. So I guess hearing that, I mean, I'm gonna hate changing my positions I'm a conservative after all, but I'm gonna I would be supportive of this if If we can add the conversion to commercial in it and I have an approach to that that all articulate win appropriate Well you can go next if you'll well, let me just see if any colleagues have any questions. I do it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. I think it's a good question. authorizes funding this program, the part more first clause for staffing first, to make sure that we staff this program properly, and then we'll go off for land acquisition to start a current credit. That would be dependent on us reaching out to willing sellers and finding a reasonable price to buy those properties, to be added to the preserve system. If added to the preserve system, we would get mitigation credits, and that would then allow us to confer take coverage. Potentially, that could take up to summer of next year, staffing first and then reaching out to willing sellers. So there's no definitive time because that would really be dependent on who is willing to sell and what price. Thank you. I'm, you know, we've talked about staffing in regards to planners. I mean, I don't know why we need a senior planner. That was one of my questions. I do think that there's some value in taking a look at that. I also, you know, part of the analysis about land acquisition because that would be the quickest way to get to the COI that that would be expensive versus a mitigation approach. However, if there was land acquisition of land that was full of value, habitat value, it would seem to me that people would want to move off of that because they can't really do anything with it. And so they'd want to sell that. So it's not that it would be that expensive. You know what I mean? I think it would be great if we could have a little bit of a real estate analysis on what we're talking about because what I'm, I guess that you've calculated this in but let's say we purchase some land and then We get then people start to get the build because we get a COI to did the take coverage and then You pay us back the two million But then some of that money has to go into taking care of that acquired land for perpetuity. So that's why we're at the dollar 95 because that's all been calculated in. Okay. So that's good. Okay. That makes sense. The restoration piece, I think that, you know, I guess for me on this piece is that I still feel that we could work a little bit more on a little bit more on trying to find the land acquisition piece to get there and to see where we're at before we get into a thing with the land conservancy and everything. I do think that there's some value. And we're not talking like national forest and big huge swaths of land. And so that's the one thing that I'm still struggling with, I guess, in regards to this investment and how much that we're digging into something that, have we done as much as we possibly can in regards to knowing what our payback and what the values are out there at this point? Because indeed, the fact that we have the title 19 piece and I thought we had kind of discussed what we were going to do about that in regards to the they can't do anything until they have a a two for one on toilet and that kind of stuff so you know There's just some stuff that I still wonder if it's if we're not ready for prime time yet I don't I also am very curious is that about the Fish and Wildlife, like why they have a plan is that something that they always had and we never knew about it and it was just there, but we didn't know. And when nobody, you know, so that's a question that I have as well. And then let me just see if there's anything else and you can answer it all at once. So the amendment to the GMO on the, not only on the commercial conversion, but also the request on the, just the affordable second story to be affordable to moderate. Because again, we've talked about this earlier today, you know, it's not just the load and low income in the affordable, but there is that moderate category that many people fall into that make too much money for an affordable level. So those are my questions that I think that I have right now. Thank you. So Trevor Keith, planning and building, I'll answer some and then if I miss anything, Cory, you can chime in as well. So I think to begin just the staff in requirement of a senior planner working with our human resources department, looking at kind of the qualifications needed for the work in front of us, that is the position that they landed on for us. We, in fact, were looking at a higher level position and that's what we we worked out with them. So the senior planner is what we chose to bring forward in conjunction with our human resources resources department. I think at the end of the day you have to keep keep in mind that this is take coverage whether we provide it or US Fish and Wildlife provides it. I think if we get our program up and running the services program will be less enticed for applicants because it's more expensive and time intensive with working with the service versus kind of the local control or local jurisdiction. Trevor, would you mind just explaining what it is that the service is charging 273 a square foot for. It's really to cover the same compliance with the the in endangered species act that we're providing in the HCP at a much lower price So it's an it's an equivalent thing Except that it costs more and it takes longer for you to actually get the permit in hand if you're working with the county If we have the credits available you go in you pay the fee you get the credit I wonder if you could just explain that. Yeah, that's our understanding. Supervisor Gibson, I think you're actually outlined it quite well there. Yeah, I think that, you know, that's, they're just more expensive because for whatever reason, I mean, they've just... Like buying a Cadillac. Yeah. It doesn't work very well. Right. I'm still stuck a little bit, though, on just the overall. If we've couldn't have simplified this a little bit more, but perhaps not. So. Can I jump back in real quick? Yeah, just simplification. Yeah, I think simplification. So I think we have a plan that's been approved by your board, by US Fish and Wildlife. It's something where we need to kind of get it out of the gate and it's the concept of adaptive management within the plan. So again, we're asking for kind of a line of credit, so to speak. We're not going to spend that all right out of the gate. We draw it down as we see the activities needed. I think we're looking at a small restoration project of Eucalyptus out of the gate to get some credit sooner than acquisition. Again, we'll be pursuing acquisition in tandem. And then again, this will be looked at every year with our board and US Fish and Wildlife. I think back to the implementing entity. Once we acquire land, the county is not in a position to monitor and report out on the restoration success criteria to US Fish and Wildlife. That's why we brought in the land conservancy. That's the work that they've done out there in the dunes. They're well regarded with the service. So that's why they're in tow. Again, if we only have one small parcel, it's not gonna be the estimated amount that is thought out again. What you saw previously was kind of the full package. And now we're bringing you a much more slim down package that will go incrementally in a couple of years at a time period. And again, we'll report back to your board and look for direction. If things ramp up, we're going to need more. If things ramp down, we're going to need more. If things ramp down, we're going to need less. And we won't spend what we have. And again, just if I could jump in there, the land conservancy is being hired for their technical expertise, not necessarily their acquisition expertise. This is not their role specifically. Although if they have a relationship with a landowner, we'd be more than happy to leverage that. The cost of the land is all factored in to the calculation of the dollar 95, a square foot based on current market prices. We do have identified the parcels that are potential acquisitions in your observation about them being challenging to develop is exactly right. So we think there are willing landowners out there and you're not going to be in the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the position of the now where we can undertake restorations. So we've got a target rich environment for doing restoration. That's a long-term sustaining way of keeping this program going. We juice it up front by getting a couple of good acquisitions in there. We're going to have a self-sustaining program. And the county's going to be completely paid back. Where you go, can I go ahead? Go ahead. Another question. Thank you. I just wanted to go ahead and read that. Or you go, can I go ahead and another question. I just wanted to ask you when we're talking about either restoration or acquisition of habitat. I mean, that all still has to go through U.S. Fish and Wildlife for California Fish and Wildlife for approval. In other words, we can't just pick our own. Someone's going to come and say, yep, that's acceptable as a habitat or a acquisition of habitat, correct? Which organization, which agency? Yeah, so through the approval of the HCP, we've identified properties within the green belt, the prior conservation area, that has the highest habitat value already. So that's already been done. And who gives that, who gives that okay at Greenlight? Who says to us the county, yep, that property, who are we working with at that? The US Fish and Wildlife Service. Yes, okay. Thank you. I think for, in my question, if you don't mind us jumping in and trying to get this thing done, is that it would have been nice to be able to see, I don't know if that's knowing how landowners are in regards to a sale of a property. But if it was like yes, we see we see property X valued at this amount that with this 2 million we can do such and such and that will get us so much of a take, you know, the COI. And that way we could actually have seen the correlation. Like, here's our path right now to get to the first people on this list to be able to say, I'm ready to build. Something like that. And, you know, just because right now it still feels like, you know, maybe we'll get this, maybe we'll do this, maybe we'll have that. I don't know. Maybe I'm misbearing too picky, but I'll stop right now and listen to everybody else. Supervisor Gibson. I'm ready to proceed. If colleagues questions are answered, and I would only, to your point, Supervisor Ortiz Legg observed, that was the whole function of developing the HCP, which took over 10 years, maybe longer, maybe closer to 15. I forget when we started at 09, right, our 12th, ancient. And that's exactly the kind of stuff we worked out. We identified the parcels that could be acquired. We identified the extent to which they would provide offsets for disturbance activities inside in the rest of the community. And all of that, including the very gritty calculations of $1.95 have been all thrashed. This again is a, it's hard to, I get it jumping into this, but this is a simplified plan that is cost effective and to supervise your Pashong's concerns about the stated amount of nearly $12,000 for, for a price. Even with that development in Los Osos in terms of fees and impact fees, is gonna be about $25,000 per parcel cheaper than it would be in Templeton. Because the Templeton CSD is gonna levify 56 grand to just get a water and sewer. So if you work out all the fees, and I'm not defending the level of fees, but this is a cost effective deal that's been very very carefully studied by not only the fine folks that we have in the chambers today, but by generating almost generations of planning staff that have worked on this for a while. And with that, if there are no further questions, I'm gonna move, let me outline what we can do with the GMO in terms of second story. That's really pretty simple. And let me give you a context of that. The context of that is that if someone builds an ADU, that's considered affordable housing. It doesn't have to be deed restricted. And if I recall, ADUs can go up to 1200 square feet. Is that right? Courier 1200? That's correct. Yeah. So we get credit for that as affordable housing. It is deemed to be affordable by design. We don't put any rent or purchase restrictions on an ADU like that. And so I think we can apply the same thinking to these allocations. And so the proposed modification to the growth management ordinance would be to consider residential conversions of commercial properties on the second floor that are less than 1,200 square feet to be affordable units, period. And thus, they would be eligible for the allocations that are reserved for affordable housing. It's the same pot that if you were people self-help and you wanted to come build six units, you needed six allocations, you're going to de-district them at whatever levels you would do that. But because ADUs are considered affordable housing, I think the conversion of second story commercial to residential is very simply and very consistently considered with that modification to the GMO. So my motion upcoming is gonna be direct staff, to direct staff to make that modification and introduce the GMO. We have to introduce and then act on the growth management ordinance in order to put that in place, but we can get that going quickly. And so if colleagues are comfortable with that, that would be my proposal. And seeing no objection, then, we also talked about, let me give one other comment, talked about the question of timing. And this, I think that, let me give you some summing comments here. I appreciate my colleagues' patience in digging through these details. I've lived and breathed this for 18 years and it is a remarkably complex system that we have here, we're trying to balance numerous competing interests. And I think the key to this has been open communication and the success of this implementation package that's before us is going to depend on continued communication. Things like working with potential developers on Title 19 credits. We'll talk about how we might be able to make clearer what sites present opportunities. title 19 credits. We'll talk about how we might be able to make clearer what sites present opportunities. We've done a study. We know there are plenty of possibilities out there, but I think we can work as a planning department. My office, maybe the home builders could work with us on this to really make it efficient to find out where this is. The title 19 Retrofit to Build has been successful in Los Osos for a long time. And so I see that it's going to happen. Home Market this effort has been flexibility in trying to shape things to fit the community and fit the situation. So I'm confident that we can do that. So my motion is going to be to approve staff recommendations one through six at the top of our staff report. For recommendation number seven to direct staff to make the modifications to the growth management ordinance that would consider second story that would consider the conversion of second story commercial to residential units to be affordable units if they're less than 1,200 square feet. And to bring back the necessary actions to introduce and consider that ordinance. And then to direct staff to continue to work with the community and the building industry to implement the numerous details that we've discussed today. So I'd like to ask for a clarification on the motion when you're saying went through seven or whatever. One through six. One through six. You're talking about item, what I'm seeing item number one has little subsections went through. Well, isn't that's what you're talking about. No, so I'm here at the page four of the staff report. So recommendation. I'm looking at the script. Item item one is budget adjustment. Item two is a resolution of putting in the senior planner. Number three is a resolution to pursue the accrual. Number four is introduce the ordinance to establish the HDP mitigation fee. Five is direct clerk to set a public hearing for February 4th next year. And six is to authorize a necessary display advertisement. Those are one through six. With clarification, supervisor, probably. and six is to authorize a necessary display advertisement. Those are one through six. With clarification, supervisor, probably. Second that, none of your discussion. I'll just say, let us not make the perfect being the enemy of the good. And let's move forward. Let's lift this, the auditorium. Let's authorize some reasonable info housing on those things. Get it done. Thank you. For under discussion, does the commercial conversion count against the 0.4% or 1%? Sorry. Go ahead, please. Councillor Hone planning building, it would count towards the 0.4% growth rate as that is the overall residential growth rate for those those those. I thought we were going with the 1% with the, I thought that that was the thing. The 1% is a maximum growth rate for Los Osos. And we have with the board's action on the 29th, there's a slow row into that to ease into that 1%. Okay. All right. Well, let me in the in the quiet to of the afternoon, let me just extend my thanks to Corey Claire Trevor and all the planning staff present and previous who have worked on this outstanding effort, ladies and gentlemen. I thank you on behalf of the community. I want to use seconded this motion. Yeah. Second under discussion. Okay, I'd like to do more. Just I just want to say that Claire's presentation was really good. Yeah. You guys did a fantastic job. This is one of the more complicated. I'll so much in one package. The reason I won't be supporting a boy I told planning staff how much I've waited myself because after helping so many constituents when I work for the assembly offices trying to get through all this lasosos. I am have so in our in our presentation we just had our staff is telling us we have another alternative. So on the HCP functional similar to the LUSO, so HCP, the county one. Yes, it's a few more dollars per square foot. And the example they give a homeowner would have to pay 5,000 or so more dollars and work with US Fish and Wildlife Service. So that's the downside. The upside is that's the homeowner. They finally have a path even if we don't pass this HCP today the county's version. They would have a path. So as far as what the county's proposing I can support the growth management ordinance I can support the discussion on the GMO as it relates to the 75-day period to complete the construction and all those things. What I can't, what I just can't, because I don't think it's going to work, is optimistic as we're all trying to be, we have another alternative US Fish and Wildlife Service will provide a path as well. But we're talking about borrowing $2 million from our general fund at a time that we know we're going to be super tight with money. Then we're going to be talking about paying for restoration of habitat acquisition of a senior, half-time senior planner and a qualified consultant to develop the adoptive management and monitoring and paying for the lend management. All those things, there's no way I don't think I'm two million dollars no way. So then say we have people just knocking at the door that can't wait to pay us. Back I still don't think that this is going to be as affordable as we would hope. And I think that by letting the folks in Los Osos go straight to US Fish and Wildlife, work with their HCP, we are better serving the entire county. We're not tying ourselves to all these financial responsibilities where we don't really know the price tag and the, if this is even going to work. I just am not, especially knowing there's another alternative. I don't want to risk all of this financial commitment at a time when I don't think we should be risking that. So I won't be supporting. I would support if we broke it down. I would certainly support the growth management ordinance part of this, but not the, what it's going to take for us to have the HCP going. Anybody else? Okay. Then I guess we have a motion in a second and we'll just call for the question Supervisor Gibson. Yes, supervisor Paul Dean. Yes, supervisor Pashong. Yes, supervisor a teeth leg Yes, and Jefferson Arnold. No So let's see here Okay, then this is a a time item number 32. Any supervisor may ask a question or make a statement or make a report? Supervisor Paul. Thank you, Chair. Yeah, I've just got one quick item and I'll be making a motion. I've got a couple of dangerous crosswalks in Nipomo. One is located at the intersection of Thompson Road next to Nipomo Elementary School and the other is at Teft and Mala. I know that we have limited funds. I've been in conversations with the school district to actually pay for those if we would, excuse me, rapid flashing begins for the two crosswalks. If our public works staff can perform the work, and so I will move that our board direct public work staff to meet with Lucie and Mar to work out a deal and then bring back the public work staff to work out a deal and then bring back the public work staff to work out a deal and then bring back Proposal to our board in January February of next year to get those rapid flashing beacons installed on second that Thank you flashing beacons Under any discussion anyone I really appreciate that your efforts supervisor Pauline but I know that in my district and in all the other districts there's been plenty there are plenty of those situations lots of them. Most of the time we go through slow cog and they put those on their list and that's how we get those things paid for but if if I've got my places in San Margarita been lying for a long time and we still don't have that tank care Yeah, so I won't be supporting this I think if we want to look at this holistically or just to kind of cut in and jump in and So again the school district would pay for them, but the school district is gonna pay for it Yeah, that was the tentative deal and that's what I I can't support someone or not even seeing the deal or exactly the details. That's another financial obligation that just based on, hey, let's do this. But again, I think Silkog is probably the best route to go with all of this. So we have a motion. Do we have a second? I did. I second. A call for a question, please. Supervisor Pauline? Yes. Do we have a second? I did I second a Call for a question, please supervisor Pauline. Yes supervisor T's like yes supervisor Pashon yes supervisor Gibson. Yes and Jefferson Arnold. No, okay anybody else I just wanted to say that last meeting of the year is next week and Supervisor Arnold's last meeting also as chair. So for anybody who's listening please attend that meeting and speak during public comment to congratulate her on a fine career. Thank you so much. And would you have some? Okay then let's see. Going back to my, going back to my deal. I'll request to speak close public comment on this. And then we're going to adjourn the next meeting. It'll be Tuesday December 17th, finally. So.