you you you you you you you you you you you you you you All right. I'm going to see if I can follow this committee's directions. Let's do a call to order roll call. Thank you chairwoman chairwoman Cruz here. Miss Jamison. I'm here. Mr. and not miss emmon, Mr. Emmon. Here. Mr. Kelly is absent. Mrs. Power here. And I got everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Since we don't have the minutes from the last meeting, so no approval of minutes at this time. Old business, and public information. You can, you want to give her just a quick update? I'm pretty sure right on the spot. All right. I'm being... Well, we can, you want to give a quick update? I'm going to put you right on the spot. All right. A PA system is working today. Is it on? Very nice. Brad Harris with Volusia County Economic Development. Good morning, board. I'm here just to give an update or a report on an event which we had last Thursday in Volusia County. It was an event that was put on and organized by Volusia Business Resources, which is the partnership with Involusia County between business-servicing partners. But it was an event that began last November with notification that we were having the event and we were soliciting participation from entrepreneurs and inventors in Volusia County to be part of a pitch competition with prizes associated with that to help them get their feet on the ground and start their ventures so we were soliciting that and ended up with 39 applicants which was a pleasant surprise. This event has been historically for college students only in Vouche County. It was the first time we opened it up to all of Vouche County's residents, and we were thrilled with the response we got. So since January, we have been working with that group through workshops and entry the process of judging them in a preliminary round and then a semi-final round which brought us to the culmination of a finals event in Daytona Beach at the Ocean Center last Thursday. The event was a tremendous success because it opened the door for all applicants to actually showcase their ideas as well as the finalists, the six finalists to present theirs as they competed for the $10,000 top prize, $5,000 second prize. And those that were in the showcase, they had opportunity based on popular vote of the people attending that night to win a $2,000 prize. So we had very good attendance. A lot of activity, it was just a wonderful event. The winner was Beyond Bound Studios, which was a team of young people in the community that had formed a gaming business, basically. That was just about to be launched and interestingly enough. Their game was based on something called the Minecraft platform. If you're in gaming, that's one of the oldies, but it's a platform that has a global footprint and they decided to build off of that platform and With their own servers and with their own basically gaming content Create a gaming platform that is much more affordable than what's out there right now And they've timed it perfectly because there's a movie coming out very shortly about the Minecraft game. So perfect timing. They ended up winning the $10,000 prize, which was great. Our second place winner was something called Mr. Market. That's actually an analog board game, like the old monopoly almost. But it was conceived by a parent or parents that wanted their children to have training and finance early in life. And so the game is a fun game, interactive, kind of built on market, stock market. But it's a kids game that basically teaches finance. So again, very different than the other. And then the crowd favorite was a business called B-Well Therapeutics. Which again, just amazing, someone in our community who happens to be a chemist is married to a dermatologist who happened to have a medical condition called Eczema. And so just out of a desire to help his wife, they worked together and created an infused fabric using beeswax that actually enhances the effectiveness of the lotion's creams and applications they put on skin conditions. And so he's developed this product that basically, it really has global application. So it has huge potential. On his way, he's actually sold it into markets around the country already in a test basis with great results. So you'll hear a lot more about that business in the future as well as the others as they grow. So, tremendous success, great, great bunch of applicants and thrilled with that. Volusia Business Resources Partnership are putting this thing together and offering it to the entire community. So, it was a great launch, it'll be a great launch pad for future events just because it was such a success. So, congratulations. Yeah. That has to feel very have something. And then, too, also, as you're telling me, I'm excited to have gaming platforms and analog game God bless us for having something other than something on my computer or my phone, and then just knowing things like beeswax. The old remedies, right? My grandmother, everything she ever did came from her kitchen or her garden, or you know you didn't go get medicines and she lived to 98 and I remember her mother just real quick story, Harry, when she was 13, whatever fancy something and she never had hair on her arms or legs. So I should have that, I could make a lot of money, but I'm sure there was some home remedy that they did. So these wax and some of the things that people are focusing on is awesome. Yeah, two agricultural businesses were in there for vertical farming and another one with kind of a spray concept for nutrient applications. So it was just a very diverse group that was sending concepts in there. That's great. I have a question. Did you say beeswax infused fabric? No, it was fabric. So fabric? Yeah. If you had let you know the white cotton gloves you used, just imagine that infused with beeswax. And here was the concept. Beeswax actually breeds. It's hydrophobic, so it keeps the moisture in, but it doesn't seal it off. Most bandages today either absorb the ointment, because there's some kind of a fabric, or hold the moisture in and it give it no air. And the combination of those two things is not helpful in terms of the therapeutic of that use. But the other thing is beeswax, like Rebecca is saying, has therapeutic benefits in and of itself. So apparently the combination of that beeswax being in contact along with the other therapeutics. He can cut the recovery times in half based on early tests. So very exciting. So with that, so the Volusia Innovation Challenge, which used to be called the Carnes Innovation Challenge when it was just college students. But we've switched to Volusia Innovation Challenge. It'll be an annual thing coming up again next year. But hopefully this event will help us engage more people in the process. The only thing left over from this event, we will be sending out feedback to all of our applicants, even those that didn't make the finals, on ways that they can further build their business concept with an invitation to come see our economic development partners who are in those areas to help them. The guys that did the vertical farming, were they from the middle? Yes, it grew as farm. Yes. They've had a lot of success. They now have federal grant money to develop their concept further. They're well on their ways as well. That's right. It is. Very impressive. That is very impressive, especially when it's in our community, right? You say things like beeswax and halifins can around forever light, which is so beautiful. Hey, thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Brad. Thanks for coming down this morning. Yes. So any news, new business? So we have the request to consider the appointment of Joshua Champion to replace the vacated seat of Kelsey Bauer. He did apply. He is Kelsey's replacement at Advent Health. I did not send out a invite this week. So we probably didn't realize that he was on. I have another application as well that will be coming before the board for consideration next, so I'm kind of applied for John's board to see. Okay. So this is a recommendation to the council to appoint Joshua Champion to replace the vacated seat of Kelsey Bauer. Did anybody have a chance to look at his application? We had it last. Yeah. Do I have a motion? I make a motion to approve Joshua Champion. I also have the opportunity to meet him. So I make a motion of her being in. I would second it. Perfect. Do we have any discussion? Everybody in favor? Hi. Hi. Miss. Do what? Unanimous. Sorry. That's all right. Thank you. All right. Approved. Waiting for the unanimous. All right. All right. The next item on the agenda is the request to award recipients of the 2025 local school scholarship program. So the Economic Development Board met last Wednesday. and they decided to award each of the applicants a thousand dollars each or And they decided to award each of the applicants $1,000 each for they had applied to the program. There was $9,000 in the scholarship fund with awarding eight recipients $1,000 each that would leave $1,000 next year for the Princess Ball, the advertising for that, and put on that to then help jumpstart the next scholarship program. Staff, we did talk about looking at, for the future, maybe next year, looking at getting city-wide scholarship from some of the bigger businesses to participate and reaching out to them to really build up this local school scholarship program. Because it's really important. You know, the city of Edgwater right now, 28% don't have a high school diploma and the other 20% just have a high school diploma. So we need to to this program is really important for those Who are about to go out into the world or graduating high school and we want to encourage them to go and try and get At any form of higher education whether it's a trade school or So that that's interesting because you can take the GED, but there is a cost involved in that. And I'm wondering if, you know, I wonder if this could go towards getting a GED and then trade certificate. Yeah, it might be something that the city looks at trying to expand is get that 20% who are in the workforce who don't have a GED. I mean, we, you know, it would be who the city to help them get that because that just lifts everyone. Well, maybe it's like ancillary award, you know. Maybe it's a, if somebody's a good candidate and applies for a trade school, we could offer a package. And your local state college does have a DED program. And a part of that transition out of it is as students start to test towards the GED level, we start bringing folks that introduce them to those certificates programs that they could seamlessly go right into. So I think that'd be great. How long is a typical GED student in the program? It does vary, of course, because it depends on where they place when they come in and test. typically you're going to see students transition out of the program within two semesters and that's the law that's actually a long time but you can be a short as six weeks. Many test out everything but math right? It's like the biggest challenge but yeah so that all they have to do is take a or a general placement or yeah. Okay on this topic though I learned yesterday at the job fair from Miranda about them and I'm like what are the name? Cassis? Cassis? Yes, that's a pest. And if you take the Cassis pest, you get credit for taking it towards your workman. I might have that wrong. But anyway, you get to bypass the per-math part for a little bit longer so that you get more time in the field more time and your you know hands on learning your certification whatever it is so that you get more time to really get into it and realize okay I need this element I'm willing to fix it you know what I'm just not good at math. I'm not doing this. You know, you get further. It terrifies people. It does. It's been there for even if I had to go back and take algebra and some of the others and probably take me a bit. And you know, just talking to some of the seasoned employers who've done both sides of the educational side and other side he goes. And, you know, we were in a group of people talking about it trying to hash out the math part. And he said, some of these people have already been scared to death or shamed death. And he said, you've got to get them involved and, you know, into it enough that they're willing to move forward so that they have some self confidence in something else and they could paddle for kelvin forward. And he had some really great ideas on how to roll out it but then I learned about this Cassis set which will get you further because even in the fame program, the fame program except students that are worthy and get there, but not all of them can pass that test. But once they get them in that program, they make sure they can pass that test. So it's available out there. We just have to go about it another way. So going back to, I think that's great. Probably, I should read in here, right? Yeah, because the DEED kid is also the CASIS kid. Right. Could be the same kid. Could be some of the type of certification. You know, it's funny we were talking and spent a good amount of time last week talking about one applicant that had an applied and I don't know how far we've gotten with that. I reached out to a couple of educators that I happened to, well, that I know. But some of the comments about not putting those applications, that particular student was an athlete and was waiting to hear back from some of the colleges on a sports scholarship. And the comments behind that are colleges as of two years ago are able to recruit from other colleges. So let's say I took a scholarship to go to Florida State and after two years I'm not playing or I'm not getting along with the coach in football. I can put my name in the hat and be recruited to another school. So these colleges are doing that first and then they're going to the freshman level people coming. So they're filling their roster with Inter. Very strange to me because to me if you accept a scholarship you kind of suck it up. It's part of work. Sorry. Yeah. Don't put that in there. But it's part of accepting a job and you can go look for something else. But you lose the benefits of that scholarship. Kind of. But yet they're able to shop around. So it's causing some challenges obviously for some of the college coaches. They struggle with that a bit. and it delays the scholarship of applications or tools and now freshmen and sophomore students, so that could be why I just said Florida. Cool. And I was going to bring it up later about maybe we need a special meeting at some point in the year to review the requirements of the actual scholarship and the word because wording, because of things, do they have to be committed to that institute for four years or two years? Or do they still get it? Just looking at the parameters of the scholarship later. I think the answer to that was no, but I haven't seen that written, but that was part of our discussion. The scholarship does not go to the student it goes to the school once they have been accepted is that correct? So that's the gateway So the student wouldn't get the money, but if they picked for to save or UCF Then it would go towards tuition there I think this student was an over 4.0 grade point and the cradle paper. Yeah, and the happening. So, but that's what I understood could be happening. I don't know that for a fact, but my understanding is I think there's another end of this month before some of those decisions are made by colleges. Yeah. Well, I think we need, we've just finished this. I think we have this idea. I think it's going to take a while to flush out. I think we need to go ahead and say that we are, this scholarship committee is going to meet again and pick a date and move it forward so that we have time to plan before this next school year. otherwise it's going to be September and you know, Venice the holidays. So I think we, while we're thinking about it, we need to keep it going. So we should put it on an agenda. Where should we have a special meeting? I think we could put it on an agenda and have it something that does not bring rules and the guidelines and then if there's things we need to address. So let's add, Tammy will add the scholarship requirements to an agenda. I think we've got said coming up. Yeah, but we could do that for the next one. We could spend a few minutes discussing what that looks like. And then we brainstorm a little bit about donations from businesses. I think we'd like to get that fund up over 20,000. Any ideas from the county? Did you guys have a scholarship program also, Brad? So we might be tapping the county and saying, I think we should make donations to scholarship programs. And it's also a budget season. So this is the time to start those conversations so they can go ahead and put it in their budget. I agree. The next fiscal year. OK, thank you. Good discussion, everybody. Do we need a vote on it? Yeah, whether it's unanimous or emotion. I make a motion to move this scholarship to agree to the $8,000 award. So Bliss makes a motion. Do I have a second? Christine Powers, second stat. Do I have any discussion? Is it unanimous or do I need to do the vote? No, we do. Okay, let's do a vote. Chairwoman Cruz? Yes. Mrs. Power? Yes. Ms. Jamison? Yes. Mr. Edmund? Yes. Thank you. Perfect. Mr. Jameson. Yes, Mr. Edmond. Yes. Thank you Next item will be the review of the economic development board bylaws and the comprehensive economic development plan So one thing I will say is that Kimlee Horn will have We should have the update to the SEDS, I do have the update to the vision plan, the rough draft, and we should have the rough draft of the SEDS on Friday. Wonderful. So I can always bring that back at the next meeting so we can take a look at that and kind of go through it. We can, but the bylaws didn't change. So we can go ahead with the bylaws. We can go ahead with one, a doubt one change. Yeah, so I took this from the, from the section in the bylaws. So they actually the economic development board has quite a bit of power at the city, as far as attracting businesses. You know, you can adopt rules and procedures. Also help and expand new and existing businesses. Promotional items I think we do a lot of that through S.E.V. NPC through that partnership to really help outreach for the city. And then you also have the power to propose a budget to council to. We do that. Jerry out. And it's coming. And I have to say back before I was ever chairman of this board, it was just a flat $10,000. And the board never had any say so over what it did. It was just decided by the city that that $10,000 was going to the Chamber of Commerce, and that was the end of it. So then I got on board, and then I'm like, we need more money. We need to do some advertising, because we weren't doing any advertising, and you know, as a city. We were just relying on whatever the Chamber did. And so then we started building on that budget and I don't remember what it was back in April but I think we got the budget up and Christine you voted on her a couple times didn't we get it up to like 45, $50 dollars a year? I had to do the video, right? The videos. We did more, we did a video for the city, which, and you even find it on the city website. I can't. I was going to go back to a number three. We need to do some work on our own self-promotion within our city website. You can't find our video, at least I can. And I'm one of those impatient people. If it's, I mean there's research if it's more than three clicks away. I agree. I'm like, so you can't find a lot about what we're doing, you know, the economic development board on the website. So we need to work on that with him. But anyway, we grew it and we need to pay attention to that and guard it so that the other powers that they don't decide just to do away with it and reappropriate that money and somewhere else. Number four is not. And I was like, maybe on that fright. No, I know. The wording number four, I'm I think there's an actual order to cooperate with and provide interest that we should develop. So I think the assist or assist or provide one of the two words not both. Correct? Yes. Is it interested parties? Provided interests or... It's not really... That's not cool. I think it's, you know, in the whole scheme of thing, I think it's who operate with and assist. Interest. Existing businesses. How are the trials? It'll want to switch. Are you found it? Good for you. But I actually, I'll click you. I didn't find it on the website. I was just going to say, was that YouTube? And you just YouTube did. I just said City of Edgewater videos and said click here. Okay, you go to YouTube. You're sitting in the office and you're not thinking about you to you're looking at the city website. Technically you can't find it. Technically it brought me here and there's artwork and then economic development three years ago. Well that's good to know. Yeah but still you can't find out about that. It still should be a prominent location for businesses that look at our website. Because it's not just about an etiquette. I mean, it's just not about bringing a business here. It's about the all of the city and what we have to offer. So it ought to be on the front page. Not pinning. Anyway, I think that was about helping existing businesses expand number four. Or does it does finally say expand existing businesses? It's just sort of, it could have been reworked. Corporate with, and so assist interest that we should develop new or expand existing? So I actually was approached by Edgewater. I think that's what it was. Big church on US1. Big campus. They have a lot of property, a lot of land. They're really looking to try and figure out they want to do an expansion for their kind of like afterschool program that they have there. And they're really looking to kind of better develop their whole all the property they own for both kind of revenue for the church but also kind of creating a sense of place. And they had expressed to me that they would be interested in working with staff to kind of create that sense of place for that. And I think, you know, part of this number one is, I don't know if the board has ever formulated or worked with a property owner to create a vision for something. And I think this would be a good opportunity. They have quite a bit of property. And they're looking to do things like they want to renovate their front, the little out parcel building and turn that into a community office where people can come in, print, for free, they can work out at a station. So that church is doing a lot in that area and I think that's something that you could definitely train foster. Sounds like a great opportunity, yes. Right there on US one? Yeah, so I have one comment on that that has had issues with traffic. Parking. Parking and traffic. So whatever development they do or whatever they're looking at, it would involve right of way access to that people live behind them. So we're just gonna bring that up. I think that's calm down a little bit, but on Sundays, I know it was like they had to hire a cop and they were just, they said it, but one point during COVID, they were right before COVID, they were around 900 people between these two services. And now they're about 600 between the two services. So, you know, part of it, as said, I've said to them, look, you guys really probably need to look at it. I know it's expensive, but they were talking about spending millions of dollars with me, so I was like, yeah, well, you guys really need to look at doing a parking I mean if you're getting if you're getting 600 people I mean right now. I mean so right now this is the difference. So right now they're taking all the vacant land they own and they're parking 600 parks on it on the weekend This is my point like if they're gonna develop a developed that land that they own, where are they parking that? Part of the development should be a plan for parking. And there are people, two comments. The first one you said you're not sure if economic development or the city is ever assisted. And I know from Boston Railer before we were looking to expand the property to the north was owned or was part of the city was annexed to owned by the bank and Tracy and Samantha had come a couple of times to present some options between high density residential and very, very, very industrial and how we make that marriage work. The last one we had hired Parker, McLeanburg and put the final plan together and everybody agreed. But there were two or three meetings with Samantha and Tracy prior to that on how to best fit that wedge of property. So I'm not sure about others, but my assumptions are that it did happen on a pretty regular basis. Samantha was pretty engaged with things around. And then didn't you also have the city and Boston where we didn't you also have community meetings with your neighbors? We did. To get their buy on and be back. I think it would be excellent to handle it just like that. We did that once a month at their meetings and it was at Hasey and Adoreo and Parker came and Tracy came and Samantha and we talked about what the plan was and then we did that once a month for like three months and then as the progress happened we went back and said this is what we said we're going to do and this is what we've done and we created parking and you know our parking we were able to put more buildings on our original property that still gave the same buffer that they've always had. So yes I think that was good but we also went to meetings at Yacht Club and for the Realtors Association I mean we got out to the city and and less both Tracy and Samantha those were some of the recommendations so that when we did become before council and you were on council then yeah we had a lot of buy-in already there wasn't a lot of angst in the crowd. I think that's my comment would be that if they're doing that then they would have to include their neighbors yes Yes, in that a little bit. I mean, as you know, and God helped them. It was helpful, though, right? Yes, no. I mean, that's the way to do it. I think in the end of D'Aureo, not everybody was ra ra. Right, right. But they had, it was more a question. What is this going to look? How is it going to affect where I lift my property? So, and that, you know, how is this going to look how is it going to affect where I live my property. So in that you know how is this going to affect me going to the grocery store on Sunday morning. I get that. And then there's a thing called personal property rights and so you know we have to balance that and if the community you know the church is willing to work with the community and the city supports it, it could be a win-win because really this is what half a block off of the downtown area we were talking about, maybe parking anyway. Yeah, so they could buy the parking garage and if they would allow it to be used for other events other than just their church They could have it could be it could be a nice, you know again in the comp plan the visioning I'm really trying to I know I sound like a broken record area specific plans We're not gonna grow we don't have that much land left. Right. I want to be very, you know, what the public has said time and time again is slow down growth. Control growth, more thoughtful growth, while doing area specific plans where we're fostering community, fostering senses of places. That is what will make Edgewater really a unique and special place for the foreseeable future with all this growth that is happening around us. We can foster those different identities. Right, not a Porto-Armsfraw. Yes, each little, but one comment about a sharing of a parking garage would be weekend, one work for Sunday, and it's across the street from what we're talking about developing. I think it would just be they could open it up. It wouldn't be something the city would own, or at least that's my thought process. But it would be available for paid parking if people wish to park across the street. Monday through Saturday, but you're right, it becomes kind of parking. Now you need a crosswalk. If it's an event, they're going to have the police out there. Right now people park across US one and have to walk anyway. So I mean that's going to happen. Traffic is going to be slow. So that's just a given. But as to this the public has spoken comment I'm sorry we are a city of 25,000 and less than 10% of the public have spoken. So therefore I think we have to take the public's wishes given it's less than 10% with a grain of salt. Yeah, I mean it's just that a hundred people have come to the comp plan. We had 1,300 people do the Kimley Horn survey. So I have a decent, I got 1,400 people. I got data on 1,400 people. Now that's exactly, that's just 10%. Between both Kimley Horn and all the workshops I've done, representing that. And the people that are screaming allowed us typically don't attend. So yeah, I don't know if we have an answer to how to get enough people engaged and involved until something that affects them changes and Well, then it's nature a reaction. We want a moratorium. Oh, I didn't mean that we need an amendment We need a city manager and until we have a city manager and I mean We've got a ways to go before we say this is I mean we can be working towards it We don't have we don't have anybody to unify or leave We just need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the cell in the right area. We need to clean the or leave the city. We just can't visit the key. And to be out there meeting with businesses, and presidents, and colleges, and programs. It's been a minute now. We have any applicants on that? Okay. For City, ma'am. Yeah, there's a whole search committee. I'll be happy to get to that in our report if we need to go back to this. We're on number four, number five. Do you need a motion? Were you looking for a motion on number four to suggest you to know I'll Words yeah, I'll read through the document Word and And how do we officially Update the language I think I'd have to look at it but my guess would be it would be a recommendation to counsel Right and counsel Take that recommendation. So I think for this point Ryan what you're saying is you'll go back and look at the verbiage or that it kind of makes sense. Put it in AI. We'll come back to the next meeting and we'll use this one more time. Make a recommendation to counsel that we make those changes. Correct. And you know and it shouldn't be a big, especially for just fixing whether it's script or errors or just for a medical thing. I mean, it's just syntax. I mean, how dare you add a comma? I had another power or a duty to it. No. Yeah, I think cooperate with and assist from interest. Yeah. Cooperate with and assist interest I wish to. Interest seems kind of too passive but that might have been. Number five. Recommend to City Council options and agreements relating to the lease of City industrial and commercial property to perspectively seas. Do we ever have any of those come up? Because they certainly don't come before this floor. For any of those recommendations. In fact, if they go before planning and zoning boards, so for they ever make it to us, if they make it to us. Typically, we don't have, typically, the type of leases that are coming to the city at least from what I see are cell towers and paint shops. Natural gas pipeline companies with that sort of stuff. So I haven't actually no one's ever come to the city and said I want to be so I want to Have a land lease on the city property So yeah, I this We have we actually just did an agreement on the water plant area on park To do a cell tower there that we signed. So does that need to be here if it's never going to happen? Well the city is having less of less land. Talk about in the bylaws? Yes. Yes, it does. We're not taking it out just because the street has ignored it. I love you on Wednesday morning bliss. I'm not looking at taking things out. I just, I don't want it to be a point of attention that it never happens. So why is it in, right? It's accountable to make sure it happens. So we just said bell tower. That You know, would that have been something that that particular entity would have come to this meeting and we would have had notice of. Okay and I will use the moratorium as an example. Yes ma'am. The moratorium didn't come before this floor. That's correct. It until after the meetings. I mean it went to the planning and zoning board and then it went to Council and then it came to us. So yes, but this is up to staff. This is up to administration. This is up to the city manager. And the city manager did not have any leadership. He did not direct the staff. It was a runaway train and it went the way it went. So we're back to a city manager. Yes. I'm not suggesting by just as we look through these bylaws. I know. I am good leaving it in. Yeah. I think as we develop a city manager or as bring one on, it's probably good to have a discussion. So we've got 10 more minutes, you wanna go forward. You said number six, no? Bliss? Well, that's where we are. Yep. Carry out preliminary discussions for the purpose of attracting businesses and industry to city. Veg order, all negotiations shall be done in conjunction with the city council, and shall be subject to final approval of the city. Well this is where our economic development director did that sort of thing and we as a board were never involved in negotiations. Right. But honestly I mean how, you know, how would that work? I don't, you get into the non-disclosure and all that stuff. Yes. It works. But what, what it makes it so that if the economic development board director wants to bring it to this board, board. If it's to that point, right, and wants this board's support that we recommended to the council. This is the avenue, and this is the purpose. And this is where I've been saying for a couple years now that this entity with all these different representations here on this board, this voice has not been utilized. They go to the Planning and Zoning Board, but they don't come here and it goes to the council. So if there's a whole other support for economic development and businesses, right, if it is utilized, right? I think maybe there was a little more discussion back in 10, 11, 12 when the city was trying to regrow. It's revenue and businesses as with. This might, I mean, so sorry to interrupt. But I mean, this might just be in a simple code change and planning and zoning just to make it codified that the economic development board will participate prior to it going to planning and zoning will participate in the PUD negotiations. Something like that that you could just codify in there so that you're part of that the developer has to come before the economic development board. Staff have even thought about, you know, the public gets very upset with the horse trading that staff does. Also staff have said, well why don't you just bring the app and make them go and have a have a die with the council have them negotiate. The only problem with that is and you have people that don't really know how it works or how what they can have. I think that would be opening up a really big can of nasty worms. I don't know that's my take on it. I think the developers could come here, but I wouldn't recommend that we create a platform that the actual can have the argument as the developers are presenting. This is my concern. There was three or four years, Ryan, that obviously this city struggled bringing businesses here. That was about the point of time that the list was very active in SCBMTC and the goals were to attract high-paying jobs to this community because we just didn't have it. Still the goal? Of course. Yeah. So with that being said, there'll be a time again where there'll be a downturn. It could be coming up in the next year or so. The economy kind of continues to slide a little bit that we will want that platform again. So going through some of these things, I agree that the developer would present to us. Because I did bring ALF before it. Yeah. For the world race, right?, right? It makes sense. Yes. And I think that is a good idea. Just to your point, I mean the public says they want more transparency. I know you have concern about providing that. I think if we were to codify that it came to economic development board, prior to then going to the planning and zoning board, it's an extra an extra step but you know if that's what it takes then that's what it takes. It's just a process. Right. The public is open to come into these meetings so if it's on an agenda and people are interested they just don't want to set up a platform that we end up with mob mentality. Yes so I mean that's interesting. When it by the time it goes to T and Z. I've negotiated it for six months to a year. Right, exactly. I mean it's pretty much like hey this is. And it'd be the same thing. It'd just be the wood. Because of our meetings. Who meets first, Tammy? I'm sorry. We do. We do. So it would just come, it would all be in the same month, but we would get it, and then they'd get it next week. Yeah. And then it would go to council. Right. It's not that big a deal. Right. It's just come more step, which gives the staff support, gives the council support, gives them a chance to do whatever whatever their dog gives it. It also then right and now gives you now would have one two Three four you now have at least four opportunities for public Yes, I mean to say that the city isn't giving the opportunity for public it just wouldn't be true And the other part sorry, but it would also give everybody on this board or this board another voice. So instead of the council only hearing from staff MP and Z, they'd hear from another board. Plus as advocates of potential businesses in this organization, should have that disability. That's why we're here. Yep, exactly. All right, so that was number six. And I think the thought of Ryan is that we would add a review before planning and zoning to this board. And that's the developer, whoever, to come in. If that's not feasible for confidentiality, then Ryan could present to us. When they get to that point, they're going to planning and zone. Yes, sure. It's out there. Yeah, it's public. And we're not talking about variances and whatever. No, I'm talking about development agreements. I'm talking about, you know, obviously something that's on straight zoning, I'm not going to bring you because I don't also bring that to the point of the incident. It's like, it is what it is. They can do it if they can meet the code. But stuff that is new and that's being proposed to be changed, whether it's a zoning comp plan. Those are things that, yeah, those probably need to come before the board have a discussion about it. And that way there's just more points of view on it, more opportunity for the public to comment, and just it'd be more cohesive process. And maybe for some phrases to come out of this board, that P and Z can use, fall back on whatever, some insight into the community. It's the same presentation. I don't think it adds additional work to this staff to do the work. Not really, because we already have the meeting. So recommendation to add those decisions before planning and zoning, a developer to the economic advisory board agenda. I would recommend that we add that. I have a second. Any discussion? We need to make a motion. Oh, sorry. But then let's go. Second, okay. All right. Chairwoman Cruz. Yes. Mr. Inman. Yes. Ms. Jamison. Yes. And Mrs. Power. Yes. Thank you. I'm looking at the time you want to have with us. Yes. So there's two more in here. Can we go through those quickly? Are those good? I don't know. We seem to get pretty well. I think the last one is the and we can't buy indebtedness issue revenues So I think that one stays and to adopt rules of procedure consistent with the applicable city council resolutions and Approved I don't think we need any changes So we've gone through this first a Okay, perfect All right. Director report. We are very busy here at the City of Edgewater. So we right now we are reviewing Garing Park. That's the first 2100 units out there and about 850,000 square feet of industrial commercial, we anticipate about four more groupings of these will come into the city over the next several years. These groupings are in batches of 2,000 units, with about a million square feet of commercial industrial per phase or per batch. City is also experiencing a lot of growth. Just throughout the city with commercial site plans, we have little over 26 commercial site plans at the city right now, about 16 subdivisions under review. So there is a lot of work going on at the city. My department right now is hiring for a senior planner. I'm going to be hiring for a planning technician. I am hiring for a development engineer, a review engineer and a city engineer. And an economic development coordinator, correct. So a lot of physicians are open within planning and economic development right now. I have a question about during part specifically. How, how many homes will it take to trigger the need for a fire station? You don't even have to answer me right away. I'm just, even next month. I'm just curious. Like what that looks like. It'd be based on our adopted level of service. So right now, I think the fire chief says he's right about eight minutes to get out the coral trace. So it just depends. There's probably going to be an impetus in the next couple years as they, so Indian river Boulevard is going to do this slight curve. and that leads into a huge roundabout Then connects Williamson and so as they proceed Right now they're really focused on during park center for the most part, right? Which is that south piece of 442 And so as they get along Indian River Boulevard and start going up Williamson, it's that distance where then that will begin to trigger where we'll need to go. That's across 95 correct correct. Yeah, it's west of. So one would assume you'd have to have some type of. Yeah, I was just I was just curious if that was. Though in just from my own, do we have part of development plans or the developers participating in supporting a new fire station or is that liability in costs 100% on the city? So it's our responsibility to build fire stations. So we do get the fire impact fee and we have the fire assessment every year. And the impact fees do pay for and then we also have this year we have government buildings as well. Impact fee that was new, impact fee we adopted. So yeah, I mean it's partly it's the assessment that has done yearly and then the impact fees that come in will have to pay for it. So as a developer if they're putting in long-term 20,000 units that impact fee is in standard is it adjustable based on? So the fire impact fee is there's whole use of land uses. Okay so they all have different. Yeah but I just wanted as people are large developments right there has to be especially on the other side of 95, there's no way you're going to have an even response time to across 95. That's also a bargaining, yes, to all would be an opportunity partner with us or whatever in the building of it. Has this happened on the PD? I thought it was to be honest honest with you. The location for that? That was all the hours from the PD years ago. All right. Next try. Let's go on because we're at time right now. And we have to go. That's all I have. Come to the company and work soon. Yeah. Christine? I did see the sign coming down. Yes. Thank you. I don't have anything. OK. Nurse? No. All right. I do. Yes, ma'am. Y'all were asking about the search for the city manager. There were 44, well, 45 applicants one already took another job, so they were down to 44. We narrowed it down from 44 to 16. So 16 are advancing. And the recruiter is putting together packages and doing background checks and all this stuff. The next step of recruiting with these people, putting together packages and they all have to provide a video and so we will be receiving, the committee will be receiving that to review for all 16 people and then we will let let down from there to a lot of five. Can you tell me, are there, is there a decent amount from out of area or are they all in area? Majority are from outside of the area. Oh, it's interesting. We have men and women. So it's a little bit more than I thought. Like, I thought the applicants were limited, so I'm happy to hear that. No, that's been a misconception. I've been here in all kinds of things. Oh, I know me too. Excuse me. We had a nice surprise amount of applicants. Yeah, that's pretty cool. And pretty cool. Yes, that's awesome. Okay. Well, somebody, obviously, the city is ready to really do some growths for fans and things as a downtown. There's a lot of things out there. So bless you, Ryan, for taking leadership and Tammy, for stepping in and doing all the extra work because there's a lot going on. Yeah, there's a lot going on. We also have Delena. Yeah, there's an insane workload. How many, you were telling me yesterday, how many commercial and industrial projects do you have at 26? 26, some of those are for like, during parks, I think we have three amenity centers out there. But most of them are kind of throughout the city. A fair number of them are, I would say typically the city is done, we did seven, eight, and nine the last three years of CEOs on new commercial buildings or industrial buildings. With what's coming in, Yon, just during park, we probably have anywhere between 15 and 17 projects that will get built within the next year here in Edgewater. So we're gonna go from, we were at six, seven, eight, nine, and now we're gonna jump to 15 to 17. Double, yeah. Just double on just in like our Ridgewood area. This is not even at West in 95, yeah. So it's quite a bit, quite a bit of change and all those are coming in just they're not asking for any changes or anything so they're just being reviewed. They're doing straight zoning. So that's exciting. That is exciting. To me that's exciting. I mean there is definitely a lot of interest in the space industry in the city of Edgewater. Right. There's a lot of interest in doing commercial. It's kind of one of those things where you know I had said it before. Everyone wants all these different things and then as soon as we hit we get enough units and we start hitting these thresholds it's gonna be like I don't want another cracker barrel and I don't want another lobster red lobster in edgewater and it's like well, I can't do anything about it because now we hit we've hit this threshold And now it's like everyone wants right now. It's super lucrative be here, right? And Hey $80,000 over three year periodyear period because they wanted the cracker barrel, they wanted all this stuff. And for three years, these retail strategies came back quarter after quarter and said, you don't have enough rooftops. And the citizens were just also disappointed. Yes. Right. So now they're fun. And it's like, what do we have to do to get there? Well that's the plan that we put forward. Right. Right. Now we're there. Don't bring it. Why is another auto part? Why is it another dollar general? Because they don't need the rooftops. I remember Larry Mullin exit a meeting that we had and he said I would have loved to put my dealership on 442 versus New Samarna because it just was a challenge and he said but literally there wasn't enough roof top so wasn't enough traffic at that interchange when they were trying to do it. So I think I'm okay with that now but we all have to get used to the idea that 442 and that exchange is going to change right our sleepy little town is. Did anyone, I'm sorry, did anyone try to get out of like New Smirna, Monday after? Oh, with the accident. Oh yeah. They had a five or seven car accident on the bridge or near. It went down. That was the biggest. That was eye opener for hurricane evacuation. I would say yes. Good word. Yes, because here is a causeway, all of a sudden, the causeway shut. And I've all these people that are trying to get somewhere. We just wanted to get from Edrawada to Daytona on one. And like, we couldn't get there. We tried, it was not good. And I'll get think of this. This happened, this accident happened like two hours ago. And they don't have cops like they did, but unfortunately, not in the right place. If the injuries, they have major things. Right, I know. But I'm saying it was like, maybe the cops were all there. There was nobody In the rest of town like oh my god, okay, so with that yeah, and we're doing the comprehensive plan for Edgewater and at these meetings nobody wants am I right nobody wants these new Quarters going north and south in east and west. No, no, we don't want new roads. I mean, you have to need it. Yeah. You're going to add several thousand people plus businesses. I think the other thing is what staff have been really pushing is to increase connectivity. in the city because a lot of the city now I know that part of that is it gives some bit of a small town feel because you're all kind of isolated but we also kind of create ourselves and we're in our own little enclaves in the city and because the city doesn't have really a formal gathering place to bring this so you know creating connectivity between areas in the city where we have public roads and they're just, they just, at end and they don't connect to another neighborhood because that neighborhood doesn't want their public road to be driven on. You know, it just what it does is we're funneling people to our major arterials which are fine, but if we don't ever provide any other alternative routes those arterials we will never be able to build enough roadway on those arterials if we're only going to channel people to them. Right. Yeah. It's just residents. Right. Right. Right. Right all of the traffic coming from visitors from Orlando It's been that way. I mean this for me to me it was a huge it should have been a huge eye-opener to the city of New Smart Beach because this is 3.30 on one day afternoon and that it was like a three hour Yes, well it's a I think there's a statue where you gotta get, believe it, six hours. You gotta get people out. Yeah. And so, you know, that's kind of one of the things where when we're looking at an edgewater with all the development going on in the South of the city, how are people gonna get out to I-95 basically? Maytown Road interchange. Yeah, eventually, yeah. But so, but a lot of those things, right? That is a challenge for Newson and Beaches. That how would they get just those two bridges out? Yes, obviously you don't spend much time on Dunloth in between the hours of 4 and 6. I'm trying to do more than plus I four d'Arnes before the St. John's River between four and six. It is in regular one plus hour delay. That's how I had that. Any kind of small infraction on Dunloth. It's like I for, we're for something. Yeah. Like it, unfortunately, but I think to your point, there should be some alternatives. And I think the city of Edgewater is looking at those in our south and whether the says or the development plans just must require it based on amount of people. I mean these things are going to draw people to this area. Correct. So it can't just be citizens we have to plan for. It's on the long range. It is. It was on the 2045. Long range. List, do we have anything else? Excuse me. I know. I just had one question. First of all, I officially retired from the Edgewater Power Boats. It looks like I might be doing some mini consulting and going back to the day just to help do some month and report. So we'll see how that works. I personally like to work. So we'll see. At our meeting last week when we talked about this scholarship there was some discussion on a new chamber of commerce for Edgewater. Is that something that we can discuss here or what's the status or should we table that because it's a pretty long discussion. I was very concerned about that. Tate told me too. Yeah, we can table it. I mean, the only update is that, I mean, I don't know if they've gotten the national certification. They've done all that. To based on what the city sees right now, it seems to be just a club. It's not an actual chamber of commerce. Okay. So, you know, the city staff will work with the organization, but the city staff are willing to help them work on that, but, you know, city doesn't run the chamber of commerce. That's an important thing that I think needs to be just out there. It's just very disappointing. There's been a lot of energy put into as you say attracting space and other businesses to a dry city area. And I'm not sure maybe a discussion from this board or from SEVMTC would be worthy. I'm not sure the purpose behind it. Right. To that point, this is the academic development board for the city of Edgewater. Yes. That should have come in front of us. Agreed. Yeah. Well, if they wanted our support. The bare minimum. You know, that should have come. OK, we'll table that discussion and I have one thing Cut myself short. Yes, man. I just wanted to say we had a very successful job at the Brandon Center We had 40 people register We had a couple cancellations, you know because of, whatever. But then we had five people who, or five businesses that had not registered, walk in, show up, or like, okay, we got a table for you. So that was good. So employer-wise, we had more than we did last year, which was great. Some of the ones that are regulars, much to my surprise, were not hiring, so they did not attend. And then attendance was down from last year, but really it's talking to the employers. They He had two, two to ten resumes in hand for you know people following up so that help lawyers left happy the job seekers I mean young and old they left happy so it was successful the other thing we had going The justice this year was there were four job fairs in two week period and two of them were yesterday. One was in the morning and one was in the afternoon. So everybody's going to try to juggle that. They were in different areas I think for the most part. Which is good, but that is a lot. But some of them were not as well attended as ours. April 1st is a tough day. It is. I don't know. Yeah. So. But anyway, it was a success. Good job. And thank you all who came and supported, dissipated. Thank you. The only other thing I have is you brought up something as normal businesses that might not be hiring right now. And I know I personally worked on looking at some of the tariff impact to our business in terms of just supply and believe it or not. This was the original tariff, which was 25% Mexico Canada and 10% additional for China. than the terrifyingiff on the human and steel. In our business, it was a half a percent impact across every model. It was pretty big when you consider it does nothing else. Now, additional tariffs and some of the others, there's some concern amongst, especially the boating industry that these and automobiles, but things out of... I can tell you from construction, it's already hidden. Well, it's hitting off the... It's a tax. It is a tax. It's a consumer tax. But it's a tax nobody was prepared for, and we don't have alternatives. I mean, talked about it a lot of times, though. You know, know it's funny though when you work in a business we have to set our pricing in a one-year income because you publish. Sure. And that's whether it's whaler everglades or even contractors that are building homes. You know there so when we say some of those things it's And you know, adding additional cost without value, it will take years to bring back manufacturing in the United States if there's even an appetite for steel mills and aluminum. You know, I mean, Alcoa went out maybe 10 years ago, the steel mills. I lived in Cherne, Pennsylvania when you know,. So, and then fiberglass went out 15 plus years ago because the cost and the impacts from the environments and EPA were a challenge. It wasn't just the cost of labor, it was the cost of the infrastructure. So, just, it's a comment, it's not meant to point anything but when we talk about the community not hiring There is some real concern over some of the cost coming up. I can't say To your point in speaking with them about oh, you're not attending all of you're not hiring They have two year four year five of your. And they do not see this as something that, the ones I spoke to as a long-term thing. And the general conversation was, we just need to give everything some time and see what gets out. Most people are using a tradition to manage and with anything. And I don't know how the market is saying, there's an ebb and flow. And this high has been pretty high for a pretty long time. It was expected to have a collection. Apatites for people paying $10,000 more for someone. And this is kind of a challenge. Yeah, absolutely. Especially on those, the air price items. Or on things you don't have to have. Yeah, luxury goods are definitely. I know the luxury tax I was around when that was presented, not sure who else was, but that was a complete disaster, right? Yes. It couldn't be administered for what they were trying to collect. So that's it. Anything else? Thank you, Tammy. We'll adjourn the meeting. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.