the time is 728. This is the regular city council meeting for the city of Emoryville. Madam clerk, please note that all members are still seated. Members, I'll now entertain approval of the final agenda. Motion to approve the final agenda. Second. And clerk the roll. Council member, my forces absent. Council member Solomon is absent. Council member Welch. I'm going to go back in. Clerk the roll. Council member. My forces absent council member Solomon is absent council member Welch. I. Council member vice mayor car. I. And mayor more. Hi, the final agenda is approved. Item four special orders of the day. We have a proclamation of the city council of the city of Emoryville recognizing April 22nd, 2025 as Earth Day. Whereas Earth Day is commemorated annually on April 22 to demonstrate support for environmental protection, advance sustainability initiatives, and raise awareness about the challenges facing our planet. And the theme of Earth Day 2025 is our power, our planet, inviting everyone around the globe to unite behind renewable energy and to triple the global generation of clean electricity by 2030. And this theme highlights two critical aspects, our collective energy and responsibility and the share the home we have to protect, our planet. This Earth Day aims to inspire action for a cleaner, fairer, and more sustainable future by focusing on renewable energy, such as solar, wind, and geothermal energy. And our power shows how human creative thinking and collective effort can transform our energy systems. Our current reliance on energy is unsustainable. While fossil fuels have historically been essential, they pose a serious threat to our environment and health. The advantages of renewable energy are that they are clean, sustainable, and becoming more affordable. In our planet, we are reminded that we're all responsible for protecting our planetary environment. The goal is to address inequities in energy access and prioritize the health of people and the environment. And now therefore it be resolved by the City Council of the City of Emeryville that April 22, 2025 is hereby proclaimed as Earth Day in the City of Emeryville. And all residents, businesses and institutions are urged to advocate for policy changes, adopt renewable energy solutions, and work towards a cleaner and more sustainable future for our planet. As proclaimed by the mayor of the city council of the city of Emeryville at a regular meeting held Tuesday, April 15th, 2025. We now have item 4.2, a presentation from the police department for the annual report, Chief Jennings. All right, good evening, what it looks like, but it's also for community members who did not have an opportunity to see it. They can see it through on the webpage or large gallery have here today. So with that you see our annual picture we got right here behind us. See a very eclectic happy group. Next slide. Basically, my message and my message is always the same. I appreciate the fact that I have a council that has given us the tools and the support to do what we've done. And I definitely appreciate my officers who have gotten the job done, bringing more trust and community engagement with the city. So it can't do enough officers that we have to. Next slide. This is my former command staff. Everyone here has gone besides acting Lieutenant Dauer and PSM Bouset, but they'll both be leaving shortly also, so that will be different next year. Next slide. You'll see my main sergeants here. Three of these will be gone in the next future. And special thanks to the sergeant, Pablo Rojas, who actually put the PowerPoint together and is our community engagement in liaison. And also my recruiting and training officer, which is critical to the growth of our organization. Next slide, please. Again, about staffing. You see some pictures, lovely folks, that we just hired. One of the highest honors to bring new people into the organization is important to hire good folks. And that's the beginning of having a good organization. At one point, one glorious moment, we were totally staffed in October, but that has changed. With attrition and injuries and some people moved on. So as you see the number is right there. And at any point in time, feel free to ask me any questions we can engage in this when to keep it going. But again, you've seen this before. Next slide, please. Another thing that I'm proud of in our organization is the demographics. You see, we're a very diverse organization, by our numbers, and by the photos that you saw. We definitely represent the community that we serve. One of the things I'm most proud of is the fact that I've made it intentional to hire great qualified female officers on the national average for female officers less than 10%. We're up to 19% and we're on our way to get the 30%. That's the national 30 on 30 initiative that's been put on by the National Chief of Police and I'm informally a part of that. I'm going to get there. So we're going to get there. Next slide, please. Again, our female statistics, demographics for our sworn, again, seem very diverse. Nice, next slide, please. Again, so what we're here about our primary focus is the Florida crime. Drive down crime, drive down the fear of crime. You're going to an excellent job of doing that. And this is a, the far harder you want to get into it, a very layered nuance way of driving down crime that, with me and my 34 years experience and my officers with a lot of experience, have focused on with a vision of making sure that we're integrated with the growth of the city and also the feeling of togetherness in the city. So most of our crime is property crime, 85% of our crime is property crime. We have a rich, diverse commercial area. We have a lot of apartment complexes and most of our crimes are petty theft based on opportunity to commit those thefts. Next slide please. Our violent crime, any crime of violence is also, you know, it's a threat to our society, the fabric or society, but our crime rate again is low, especially compared to our regional partners. One of the things also I pride myself on is I did a longitudinal study of our crime from 2010 till now, where we'll see across the region that most people, most agencies crimes down 15 to 20 percent, if not higher, but a lot of those crimes are down from a high point that they've had. We've never reached our high point in the last 15 years. Our high point of crime was 2019 and we've never gotten to that number back yet. So I'm pretty pleased with that number. The numbers went up during COVID and then they shot up exponentially 21, 22, 23 and we're seeing we've ours was going up if we've kept it below that high point number which is really pleasing for us. Next slide. Again. We've ours was going up if we've kept it below that high point number, which is a freely pleasing for us Next slide Again, so another crime is down 20% the numbers up to right now We're down another 10 to 15% on most crimes compared to last year. So Again, this is due to several factors in my opinion one being a change in public policy that's going across our region. Another is the fact that we've gotten a flock camera system. Another factor is that we had a significant increase in our staffing. So instead of running overtime to run the day-to-day operations at the police department, we're using the overtime to floor crime by using some of the grant money that you'll see there on that we've used to put those strategically in areas that were crime was occurring to actually drive down crime further. So multi-layered and everyone buying in on my vision and the new hires are very enthused. Next slide, please. Again, breaking down the crime numbers. Again, petty theft being the highest are crimes of violence or being the lowest, which is great, but any crime, trying to get to Utopia where there is no crime. You don't need police officers. And then our breakdown by demographics in their arrests. Next slide. Our juvenile arrests have been consistently low. We consistently return juveniles to their homes, 79-80%. The one of the juveniles that end up going to juvenile hall usually have a warrant for their rest for some other reason Possession of a firearm as automatic take to juvenile hall usually the robberies are depending how the robbery was committed Was it forced or fear was their actual violence used? The automatically go to juvenile hall so those numbers remain low Which is good for us at the win next slide, please? To me this is important and it really would be more important for the members who have not been on the public safety committee but this really explains how our use of force is used. Try to give an explanation. So if you were to rest me and then Mayor Moore put me in a twist lock and vice mayor Moore put me in another twist lock is one victim or one suspect with two incidents. So the numbers can be skewed in that sense but every use of force is counted in our in our matrix and you can see less than 0.4% of our our calls for service involved force, which is different from what you see in the news, it's different from what you see. Read the paper by that's how California counts our incidence of uses of force. Fast majority of our contacts are traffic and a lot of talking. Next slide please. After usually we use the forces that will come complaints. Those are the definitions of our dispositions of the complaints. Not really nuanced either you know we have very you'll see the next one. What's going on next slide? There's this year many questions so you'll see our numbers. Very part of our transparency portal. All this is on our webpage. You can find all this information. It's on there. You'll see that most of our sustain for policy violations. And essentially, every day, this somebody's doing a policy violation. It could be his minor as not having your correct uniform on. So those policy violations day to day, but every time that we do a internal affairs complaint, we look at it from top to bottom. If we find policy violations, you see those sustained, but you don't see any sustained for any force, violence, rudeness, well, there's some rudeness in the sustained policy violation. But the ones that really get us in trouble of the ones we don't like, the mistake of the mind or the mistake of the heart. Where is the heart, where your malice, by malice committing, you know, hurting someone, belittling someone, we don't have that in our organization. And that was our born out in our Toronto Affairs Investigations. Which are luck. Next slide. One of the reasons why I think that our crimes are down again. New wants to approach is the flock cameras. Thank you, Council for approving that. Some of the numbers that come with that. Two million license plates are scanned monthly. The same license plate can run through the clown 16 times, clown 16, 16 other times. But you'll see some of the things that these are numbers are just from October when the cameras are fully automated to December. So this is short snapshot of how the cameras have affected us. But the most important number to me, besides the ones we've arrested, is the 396th to one vehicles alerted and the 20 felony vehicles alerted. When officers are alerted, they see it, they drive the car out of town. That anecdotally would be the reason why crime could be done also. So the several things that go involved with fighting crime, if this is a very good tool, the city manager, Belosos just had me talk to our state senator regarding giving another federal grant to maybe possibly we're asking for the rest of the cameras to be paid for through a grant. So we'll see how that goes. So I talked to Luca for quite a bit. I sent our staff report. So we'll see what comes out of that. Next slide, please. My staff, again, my beautiful communication staff with part of my parking enforcement staff, you see the amount of calls. A lot of calls for service, a very pleased that our 911 answers are 20 seconds or less, which is the integral to people fully and're going to be served when they call us. We're a full service organization. We have a we respond. And I can't say that for for everybody. You see the amount of calls for service that we have significant amount of calls. 38,000 and the amount of reports are generated, 4,000. Next slide. One person doing this property in evidence booking, almost 2,000 items booked in a year, over 2,000 other items per that's done with the group on overtime and 500 pounds of drugs per that's done by one person's, one person, He's Adrian Robinson, and she's also the one that does all the stats at the TC. So under the Public Safety Committee understands that. You're in one of this thing on the watching television. One wonderful person does all that work. Next slide please. Another one person does our records. With little help from from my public safety manager, Duchess Bouset. So again, a lot of calls for requests. These things are not easy to do, redacting, finding them, mailing reports out, and seeing subpoenas. All of this is done by one or two people in my organization. makes life, please. She's also my chaplain. So a lot of people do in multiple things. Traffic enforcement. So this is one of the things that caused me concern last year when I saw the amount of traffic actions that we had back in the day, well before any of us, there used to be four traffic enforcement officers were down to one, Steve Hindergardt's responsible for doing traffic every officer is supposed to be doing some but that number had significantly dropped after COVID it was like hands off so I re-energized the folks into doing these things because we want to drive down injury accidents accidents where people really get who die and also it's proven that when you're having proactive enforcement that it drives down crime in your town. So you see that there's a 27 increase in traffic stops, 70% increase in moving violations. My emphasis to answer some of the qualitative issues regarding our stops is to make sure you're moving doing moving violations opposed to mechanical violations. So we're looking at things are gonna cause accidents which is easier for me to defend if something goes wrong in an traffic stop. I'm not caring about expired registration or your crack windshield unless it's so agree just that you're gonna eminently wreck. But I want you to do running red lights, running the stop signs, merging crazy. So those are why you see the 70% increase. We made an emphasis on that. Parking citations up 9%, which is amazing because those doom buggies that we have have been broken on and off. So they really, again, offers us to start doing some more parking citations. So that's a significant revenue maker. And also it keeps the flow of traffic in our commerce areas moving and so that was a 9% increase and that one mic is gone and so only one parking enforcement officer right now so that's another vacancy that we're working to fix because they pay for themselves. Next slide please. Again, more of the traffic collision numbers. Next slide. One of the things that again, I'm pleased with that, you know, I had officers buy into doing these grants. There was no way that the command staff could do this on their own. So you see Sergeant Casionos, Officer Andres and Officer Hinderguard have taken the helm and helping us right look at procure and manage his grants. When I first arrived, we were given the Jagburn grant regularly and the Patrick Leahy, a politic best grant, which was a nominal amount of money, about 30,000, 40,000 dollars. During this four years of building up, We have all these grants up to $4,000 to $2,000 that we're getting, which is pretty good for a little small police department, but we can't be done without a wholehearted help from my staff. And we continue to seek out other grants when they come up, but they're very hard, you know, you still gotta do your police work. So these are ancillary duties that these officers are taking up. And it's bearing's bearing I think these are the reasons one of the reasons why crime is down because when we do the time myself out when we do the alcohol beverage ones we do the officer trip traffic safety ones we do those strategically in strategic areas where crime is up and we can drive crime down because I'll see police officers from the people over. I think it works. And next slide. Screening outreach again, you've all participated in our community outreach. I got here again as COVID. We didn't do very much. I think the numbers beforehand. We still didn't do a whole bunch. The National Night Out was a big one for the PD, but we've created other ones and I think it's definitely created synergy between the police department, the council, commerce. I feel like it's really been a wonderful, and it's one of the most joyful things I get to do as a police chief is the holiday, to a coat drive, the pink patch park, the back to school, because a lot of kids, we know that's the school stuff they're going to get. So it's very rewarding with those. Matter of fact, coffee with the cop, we're doing one tomorrow, 8 to 930 at Starbucks, like an advertising. So we're doing one 8 to 930 Starbucks at Powell Street. So you want a free cup of sponsored cup of coffee and a pastry, It will be a Starbucks on that on Pau. Next slide. I get an on huge on training. So my whole thing is about training for leadership, training for competency, core competencies. Five thousand more hours of training when I first got here. It was, we were training, but not the amount that we're training now because I'm focused on giving people to be the best officer, best human they can be. That comes with going to one of my favorite inter-perspectives, where it's not a typical cop course where these officers go and they learn about their own motivations, their own biases, how they can come better people at home and at work. And then I find that people who are happy at home come to work and they're happy to provide better services, better service, period. So those are the classes that we've been to. One of the things that we helped to reshape our departments, we had a three day post-advvanced team building exercise. We've ironed out a lot of things that we need to do. That's how we got our new policy manual, our new fleet management system. We wrote our new vision, statement, and a collaborative effort so everyone had buy-in into it and groups. We made it, we made a new command groups to answer some of more questions. So it was very successful. It could have been dicey, but it went really well. I had to write some wrongs of the path and it had to do with my command staff at the time. And we did that. It was a good therapy session. So next slide. part of the transparency. You know, you inspect, you expect what you inspect. If you don't inspect things, you're not going to know what's going on. So they know what's important to me. Transparency is hugely important to me. So we audit our cameras, we audit our vehicles, and we audit uniforms. I believe what how you look is how you present your first line of defense. If you come into the job and you're looking sharp, people are more likely to pay attention to you. Not that they were looking great before, but I think they look a little bit better now. We're more uniformed. Next slide, please. I believe with social media, I believe in communication. I'll be able to have one on one, but you got to use social media. And so I have a great group of young go-getters who understand technology and enjoy it. And so they do wonderful job posting important information. Our most important information goes through NICSLE. Through April and my team, we will send our important information to the city. it's used 46 times last year. Good information sharing. And as you know, when the information comes from the city or comes from the PD, they know as actual factual information. They don't do fly by night, have a guessing what's going on in the city. They know the facts. Next slide, please. So a future operational challenges challenges. Again 26% of the professional staff can be tired today, 20% of professional staff. This creates promotional opportunities but these opportunities are only good if we have people who wanted to step into those roles. With that being said, we started with having an organizational assessment by professional post-approved organizational assessor met with the city manager on Monday, got her direction from what she thought she was what we needed, which is aligned with what I think we need. And so that will come to sometime in the fall. And so what we'll look at is our beach structures. We'll look at our new CAD system. We'll look at our calls for service. With that, we'll also look at the growth of the city, talking to Chad Smalley and others in the city. He'll do an interview with important staff members. We'll look at if we need to change anything, we'll look at our organizational structure, and then we'll come here and present for you. give you a given idea of what he thinks independently. One of the things he said to me is like, I can come in and tell you everything, but I want everything. So it's easier to have a house-like person to do that. So we're going to take the effort to do that. Next slide, please. More challenges. We're trying to still integrate technology. You'll see a drone presentation either I think it's slated for May. So you'll see that come here to your table. This is for you guys to discuss. We're still taking practice step into coming a fully automated patrol vehicle fleet. You guys understand the council understands the implementation needs needs and problems so that is part of the future challenges and we're preparing to pay play to encrypt our radios so we can make sure we can talk to our jurisdictions who surround us and so that has to be done by August but that's again a challenge it costs us money know. And, but it's important for us to be able to communicate with Berkeley Oakland, San Francisco and other regions. So, that's one of the things that we're going to be doing. But, next slide. Think it's, thank you. That's the next slide. I definitely appreciate the fact that you're engaged, that all of you have been on the Public Safety Committee, that all of you do know our challenges that we face, and you've been supportive. There's really not the only reason, but one of the reasons that crime has gone down is not like one year, it's four years of building upon what we started when I first arrived in 2020. And so again, not fully responsible for the stats, but I'm definitely take them into heart and try to drive down crime in the fear of crime. And so as a collective, we're doing that. And so, that's it, 15 minutes, I don't know. Any questions? Thank you, Chief Jennings. Members, any questions or comments for the Chief? Yes, thank you so much, Chief Jennings, for everything that you've done to keep our city safe. And the statistics, they definitely look encouraging. My question to you really was about, one of them was the grants. Are they any grants, any further grants that you're able to get, especially for the encryption? Or no? There's no grant for the encryption. I asked the senators, no one has titled us, but no, we couldn't get a grant for that. So we granted for the, he's looking for the grant for the Floc camps. I really do appreciate your department doing all that research and applying for this grants that is really great for our cities especially with the economics right now. Thank you. Yeah. Amber Welch. I just I just wanted to say thank you Chief and share with you briefly I was talking about our police. And on a panel and the question to me was about how to engage the community. And I feel like we are such an amazing example of that because people get to see our officers at community events. They were just at the Enriville Commerce Connection event, the one year anniversary. So I feel like our officers get to engage with officers, not when you have to call someone because you've been a victim of a crime or you're unfortunately being arrested for a crime. Or it's not always under the guise of having to engage because there's been a criminal element. They get to see our officers at the Healthy Families Festival at the Harvest Festival at the Holiday Parade. It just really be a true community partner. I just really appreciate that because it takes, it takes that type of work to really build trust with the community. And so just thank you because I know that that comes from you, but it's implemented by the officers and everyone really just shows up. It wants to be a part of the community and see it as a part of the fabric of every Ville and not just folks who come to a rescue if you've done something that. 100% agreed. Thank you very much. And that's really been an emphasis of my, besides actual arresting of people who've done something wrong and they may be corrected, is secondary is engaging because exactly what you said. You're more willing to talk to us. That drives down. You're willing to tell me, hey, there's something going around the corner you might want to look at. So just walking by or not being engaged in your own community. So yeah. And the officers, I think it's also because we really hired a bunch of new folks also. They really bought into it and it's really changed the perspective of officers. Thank you, Chase. Oh, yes, Vice Mayor. Another question you just said that you're going to get the grants for the flock cameras. That's great. Or maybe you at least will apply for those. Yes, ma'am. That's wonderful. At the Public Safety Committee I had the question about the cameras, the lights plate readers, whether they are able to go ahead and provide statistics about how many people are in the city during the day because that's going to change over time as we get more people in because of the new development that we are anticipating. It can't tell you how many people will tell you how many cars. Yes. Yes, again. And vice mayor Moore asked us about the transparency portal is not quite up yet but is going to be up where you can actually go in and check on your, on your, for yourself. On a website. Great. That would be fantastic. I think it would also help with the transportation committee to determine the stats. How many vehicles are going through? Yes. Yes. Wonderful. Thanks. I think Chad has some other tools that he uses also for counting people and, and so there's so there's tools out there. Great. I'll help. Thank you. Yes, go ahead. Thank you for keeping the department a representative of the city. Great job on doing the 3030. Thanks so much for that. Thank you. So just echoing my colleagues, really great job on the report, seeing those property crime numbers go down. We know that that's no accident. It's through the hard work. So please thank the team for us. And also that level of community engagement, please keep that up. that's I think the relationship that Emriville PD has with the community is unique and special, and I'm glad that we're cultivating that and fostering that. The FLOC camera report is really eye-opening. Two million vehicles scanned just in 2024 since October. And that's even before all the cameras came up from the, I know we have commercial businesses installing cameras, right? So the network is expanding even without further investment from the city or grants. I'm curious. I do like the layout where it was the 2 million plate scanned, the number of associated felony vehicles, associated crimes, vehicles that were chased out. Is there a way to, I don't know how difficult it was to put that report together, but are you guys looking at some sort of monthly compilation or bi-monthly I guess for the public safety committee and then perhaps the rest of council could be copied on some of those stats if we reach out. Absolutely. Great question. And yes, it is a little bit cumbersome. An individual, my Sergeant Parto does that. But it's gonna be part of every monthly public safety committee that goes out. And I think when we send it, we send it to all of you, don't we? Or do we just send it to the committee? I haven't received it. Okay, if you wanna, we'll send it. Yeah, it's just another name. Great, another name. And we are just to make sure that we are on the same page. We are, it's not monthly, right? The public safety is. Yeah, it's our monthly, yeah. Yes. Yes, sorry, it was monthly when I was on it. The last question I had was on the drone program. And I remember I introduced this item as a drone, as a first responder. Has that been adapted to, I saw recreating crash operations? Is that something else now? It's not something else is a little different. So, yeah, the iteration is not joined as a first responder. We do not have the bandwidth to do that with the current staffing. But we do have the bandwidth use of drones for emergency operations procedure to do reconstruction of vehicles accidents in an intersection. There's other needs to do it as first responder, but it's gonna be part of the staff report. So you'll find out exactly what it needs, and if you wanna provide us with the needs that the other assets that we need to run the program, after you see the staff report, then we'll look at it then. Understood. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Thank you, Chief. Welcome. Okay, moving on to item five, announcement of commission and committee vacancies. Thank you, Mayor and Council. Just wanted to let you know that we open an aneur recruitment for our advisory bodies on April 4th. That closes on May 19th and applications are available on the website. Thank you. Thank you, April. Next we have Council Member special announcements or reports on meeting attendance Seeing none This the city manager's report Thank you mayor and council. I would just like to announce the weekend of April 26 There are two events we have the national prescription drug take back day from 10 to 2 at 24 49 in Powell Street so that members of the community can participate in returning unused prescriptions. And then on April 27th, which is a Sunday of that same weekend, we have the Shoreline cleanup from 9 a.m. to 12 p.m. We're asking for residents that are interested in the Shoreline cleanup to meet at shoreline park at the Bay Trail access road for a Funday outdoors with the immobile community refreshments and cleanup materials provided. Thank you so much. Moving on to X partake communications members. Do you have any X partake communications? Seeing and hearing none. Now is the time for public comment. Seeing no members of the public and attendance the next part of the next part of the next part of the next part of the next part of the next part of the next part of the Moira. Aye. Motion carries. Next we have public hearings item 11.1 resolution of the city council of the city of Emoryville establishing the updated development impact phase. Members are you amenable to waving presentation? Yes, I am. Yes, Mr. Mayor. Okay, I will open the public hearing. The time is 803. Seeing no members of the public, I will close the public hearing. Members, are there any comments? I can move to approve the resolution. I will second. Madam clerk the roll. Council member pry forces absent. Council member Solomon is absent. Council member Welch. I. Nice mayor car. I. And mayor mora. I. Motion carries. Next is 11.2 resolution of the city council of the City of Emeryville amending the master fee schedule. Do we have a presentation? Good evening, Mayor and members of Council. By Anora from RGS, your financial consultant. Tonight we're going to talk to you about amending the master fee schedule for the city. Next slide. The master fee schedule is reviewed and updated each year. It is effective July 1st and it covers fees for services provided by the city. Under state law, the city may set fees at or below the cost recovery figure. The fees and emrivill are based on a comprehensive fee study and cost plan that was done in 2016. And the fees as proposed in this document would be effective on July 1st 2025, 60 days after your adoption. In general, the proposed fees are increased by 2.7 percent from the prior year in most cases, except where otherwise noted. Some fees are set or capped by the state, and so they're not included in those changes, and they're all shown in the attached proposed schedule. Next slide. There are some highlights in the areas that we wanted to bring your attention. First of all, the sewer connection fee and the building division is based on the change in the E&R construction cost index, which is 2.9%, so that's slightly higher than the fee adjustments in others. These fees are placed in the sewer connection fee fund, fund for 513, and we estimate that this change will result in an additional $5,600 in revenue in the coming year. The next category are the State Department of Fish and Wildlife Sequifees Planning Division. These fees are set by the state, not the city, and they're changed to each January 1st. In the area of credit and debit card fees, there's a new credit card processor that has been retained by community services, and so we're proposing to increase those fees from 2.5 to 3% as a pass-through, and that would be effective in both community services and finance. In the police department, the fees for DVD copies are being removed, and that eliminates a conflict with other departmental media fees in police. Surilateral performance security deposit is being proposed for a reduction by public works based on that department's study of actual costs for those services. Park rental fees and community services are proposed to be changed from a per day amount to a per hour fees which will allow for more availability of facilities. And finally, the after school program fees will be increased by 4% to authorizing operational costs. Next slide. So with that, we come to our recommendation which is to receive this staff report Accept any public comment and then discuss the proposed fee schedule and second to adopt the attached resolution Which would adopt the master fee schedule as proposed effective on July 1 next slide So if that I'd be happy to answer any questions and also we have a couple of departments here as well to field questions if you have them. Thank you, Brian. Members, any questions? I have not. For me. I just had one. There was an item last year I sent to budget and governance looking at the reimbursable overtime cost for police service. So this would be take a business that wants to hire one of our police officers and they could work that as a reimburseable overtime. And I'd looked at some other jurisdictions where there's administrative fees around 10 to 15%. So in New York, it was 10% in San Francisco. It's around 14% in Los Angeles, but also between 10 to 15%. I noticed that the, well, I'm actually curious if that was looked at to see if this is an administrative fee that could come back to the city, which given the amount of that reimbursement over time could be quite significant to the city. Is anybody aware if that was discussed at budget and governance? Was it was there a decision? I am on that committee mayor and we didn't have any discussion about the reimburseable overtime unless chair of the committee remembers something to a different. We had our discussion. Okay is that something that you have thoughts on? Mr. Mayor what I would suggest is that we are proposing to have an update to the fee study and master plan coming up after the budget process and that is an area where we can task whoever is hired the firm that's hired to look at that. So yeah, that would be it. Something we would do. Okay. Would it be advisable to incorporate at this time a 10% fee? Why would we caution against that perhaps? My advice would be not to do it at this time only because we haven't done a study on what the actual cost is. And again, under state law, we have to guarantee that the costs are at or below our actual cost. But since we do have a study coming up, that would be the perfect time to do that. The other thing too that I'm imagining in that study is we would look at all the existing fees and also ask the departments to talk about fees that perhaps for services they're charging or they're not providing, but not currently charging a fee. And maybe we can incorporate those as well into a future fee schedule. Thank you. That's very helpful. Is it sufficient just to make the suggestion here to to satisfy? Absolutely. Thank you, Brian. All right. The time is 810. The public hearing is now open for this item. Seeing no members of the public, it is now closed. The time is still 8.10. Members, are there any questions or a motion on this item? Are there any comments or a motion? Motion to approve the resolution as an adopted as written. I will second. Madam clerk the role. Council member Pryforces absent. Council member Solomon is absent. Council member Welch. Vice Mayor Carr. I and Mayor Mora. I motion carries. We have no action items. Department head reports. No report this evening. Thank you. Members, any future agenda items? The time is 8.11. This meeting is adjourned.