Aloha kaki ako. Welcome to the 31st session of the Committee on Legislative Approvals and Acquisitions today is September 16, 2024. Time is 10.30 a.m. and I'm calling this meeting to order. President in our Heelow Chambers this morning our Council members, Kagiwata, Kimbo, Kirkowitz, Galimba, and joining us shortly there, Council Member Liloi. Here in corner, we have Council Member Evans, Council Member V.A. Guess. I am Holesco-Guro Inaba, Chair of this Committee, and absent excuse today from Hiloi's Council Member, Matt Cunningley, Klein, Phil, there. With that, do we have any public testimony at this time? Not sure, but yes, we do have several testifiers here in the corner chambers. I, Mr. Aras, do we have any testifiers in Zoom or in the courtesy sites? Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. Just noting that we do have a couple testifiers via Zoom, only one of which you have two is signed in at this time. Very good. We'll start here in our corner chambers. I'm just noting that for those testifiers, you have signed that the testifier bill is 198M199. Please clearly transition when you shift your testimony on 198-199. So that may restart the clock for your three minutes. If there is no clear transition, then you'll be allotted three minutes in total. I would like to ask Mr. Chad Wiggins and Miss Maxine Kaholelio to come forward. Mr. Riggins, we testifying on bills 1.98 and win 99. And Miss Kaholelio, we testifying on bill 1.99. Please come forward to the table at this time. Mr. Riggins you may proceed you'll have three minutes when she began your testimony on bill 1 9. Excuse me you sign up to buy both bills so please begin your testimony and if you can transition between the two bills if there is no intent and, it's just basically a singular testimony, you'll have three minutes. But please proceed. Yeah. Lohamaikako. My name is Chad Wiggins, and I'm a resident of Waimea, Lalo Milos, South Cahalla. Long time voter, first time testifier at the before this council and this committee. I'm testifying an opposition to Bill 198 and 199. I humbly request this council honor the will of our community regarding this specific rezoning by referring to the South Cahalla Community Development Plan and the input that has come from residents of this area. Waimea Policy 2 from the Community Development Plan states that quote, responsible growth shall be an overarching land use policy for Waimea. Adequate infrastructure including roads, water supply, electrical power, drainage structures, schools, and parks shall be provided by public and or private entities before any large-scale new residential or commercial projects can be considered for approval by county, in quote. The proposed rezoning is misaligned with this policy projects can be considered for approval by county." The proposed rezoning is misaligned with this policy because it does not ensure adequate infrastructure for what would become the largest commercial development outside Wemmeas urban core. The landowner is not adjacent to sidewalks, turn lanes, or drainage infrastructure because they are in an area where development has not been planned. The CDP also admonishes the county to, quote, carefully evaluate and condition as appropriate any rezoning that would negatively impact agricultural lands in Waimea, in quote. The lands on the Mount Achaia side of this property are intensively farmed by some of the most productive agricultural operations in the region. The ability of these lands to produce is proven, and they must be subject to rigorous evaluation and conditions before being converted away from ag per the CDP. I urge the county council to reject these bills and to consider transparent criteria for making rezoning decisions, such as the demonstrated benefit to the public, the meeting of prior infrastructure requirements, outreach to all affected parties, cultural consultation with lineal descendants, and in the case of agricultural lands, speaking with some farmers. Thank you for the opportunity to share my testimony and to be your take. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your testimony. Ms. Kahole Lille, you may begin your testimony. You have three minutes. There's a button. There you go. It's called the anti-max. My last name had pronounced. Yeah, Mahalo. I didn't write anything. It's just from my now. I am a resident in Waimea, been there for 26 years. My name is Maxine Kahole Leo, and my last name is traditional Kahole Leo, the man who fell off the horse. That's our legendary name from Kauai, Anahola. Why is this because my male is cowboy country? I have two jackasses and one horse on my five-acre. One donkey, who's a pinto, and the other one is a great male. I speak because the animals no more chance living with me anymore. We're talking about people. People who like come into our male, destroy our male as it is. Quiet, peaceful, beautiful. They like come over here, make Hannah, you know. What chances are animals get. No more chance. You know, he talked about the water. Forget that the water should be free to us, I live on Hawaiian homes in Kippur, and this monkey, like come up by mail, these people with rich, with lots of money, like destroyer by mail. Not, not, not Pono, not Pono. You take your money and you tell him, whoever met Slur or whoever this other guy to take your money, Manny, and you tell him, whoever met Slur, or whoever this other guy to. Take your money, go invest, and build our schools. Take away the homeless. Give our coupon a housing. Those are the things you talk about. Leave my mail, why mail. I know I only get three minutes and that's really unfair because we Hawaiians love our land and that's the only thing we get left with our land with our animals. The sheep, the gold, the dogs, the cats and all this kind of poor Eholy, they come over here, they're like bill, bill, bill for what? Money, money. Huh? I talk from my now, I'm not going right down, I'll tell you some money, I talk from my now. Stop, don't pass this crap over here. Call my, I'm angry. I'm very angry because the military taking over our island. Now this millionaires come over here taking over island. Why? Why? Leave us conocers alone. Let us live the way we live. Why mea is pun punished all our country. Okay? You like come live over here. Live like us. I'm sorry. Come on. Thank you for your testimony. Thank you. Mr. Eras Ali, could you please proceed with your testifier in Zoom if they're available? Thank you so much. Chair, your next testifier is Chuck Flarety testifying on resolution 6-1-1 to be followed by Kristen Counter testifying on bills 198 and 199. Chuck, if you could unmute your mic at this time, you'll have three minutes if you could just reintroduce yourself when you begin. Hello, Mr. Chair and members of the committee. My name is Chuck Flarey of speaking on behalf of this year's Club Long Island group. It's strong support of resolution 611-24. This small one home project is one giant leap towards solving this county's affordable housing crisis. HIG is certainly, it's certain that it will prove to be an excellent example of how community land trust are the best strategy for quickly easing the county's affordable housing crisis. Why only group or just the county administration and the county council to make every effort to support the expansion and use of community land trust such as the housing and land enterprise of why county, DBA, O'Holiday, to Routhie County. Violin group reiterates the fact that the demand for housing in O'Holiday is global, not just local, and FARC seeds the ability of any county in O'Holiday to build its way out of the affordable housing crisis with market rate homes. The only way to quickly enable the construction of affordable homes is through economic models such as community land trust and subsidized public non-governmental organizations and partnerships. Violent group supports resolution 611-24 looks forward to the expansion of this economic model throughout the county. Mahalo for this opportunity to testify and have a good day. Thank you so much for your testimony. Chair, your next testifier is Kristin Kowder, testifying on bills 198 and 199. Kristin, if you'd like to transition, please let us know when you transition between the bills so we can reset your time. If not, you'll have three minutes total. If you could just reintroduce yourself. Aloha, my name is Kristen Counter. I live in district nine, actually directly behind the subject property. And I'd just like to share my concerns. So as you guys may know, over the past three years, this project appeared in front of the planning commission over four times and ultimately received a very clear five to one vote against the plan. The primary reasons for the unfavorable recommendation were first that the rezoning is out of place for the community and doesn't make sense with the overall area. As previously mentioned, this is not a small project. It is a fairly significant three parcel commercial development with two stories. I think about 19,000 square feet. A quick drive through I may have shows that there's ample vacant space for lease or for purchase. In addition to what is really a properly planned area towards Pucolani, which is the place for expansion of the urban core. The entire lot is also in a flood zone with the proposed commercial section in the most serious flood areas, AE and AEF, and understand the buildings will have to be built to the floodplain, but this is currently beautiful well-draining fertile ag land and I don't know what happens to the water when that's paved over entirely. So I guess what I ask of this committee and of the council when this moves forward is what are the actual plans for this community. Approval of this would mean a significant urban center in the area with no infrastructure to support it. Sorry, my one year old just fell down. I just need one second. I'm sorry. Let me pick up. So, there are over 40 different commercial and residential driveways in the short distance from the police station to the fish in the hog. hog and yet in that stretch there's not a continuous sidewalk across walk, a stop sign, a stop light or continuous turn lane in that area. We have semi-trucks flying through and a population that's exploded over the past four years since the last traffic impact study was done. So it's barely safe for us to cross the road or walk anywhere here and adding this amount of density to the area without plans to manage that expansion is just dangerous to the community. So that's what I asked that this 30 seconds please 30 seconds. Yeah I just asked the committee and counsel look into those issues as they consider this application. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for your testimony. Chair, if we could come back to call for your testifiers. Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. What is the CC dab in port comfort testifying on those one nine eight and one nine nine and Mr. John Cohen. Testifying on those one nine and one nine eight and one nine nine. Same procedures. If you would like to testify individually on those items and receive for minutes each, please let me know when you're and the other item that we are going to be looking at. Same procedures. If you would like to testify individually on those items and receive for minutes each, please let me know when you're transitioning to their item. Otherwise it would be three minutes in total. Miss Davenport, you may proceed. Good morning, council members. It's nice to see everyone today. Thank you very very much for hearing this. I'm going to speak on 199 first the egg the rezone. I have a map here that I've made and I know you probably won't be able to see everything but it'll at least give you the gist of what I'd like to explain. So John, where are you going? Oh. So on the commercial, I'm going to stand up because I think you can hear me. You'll have to speak into the microphone. I have to sit. You have to speak into the microphone. I have to speak. You have to speak into the microphone. So on the commercial, I have here these little tabs that's underdeveloped and undeveloped commercial property. And it runs from Mary Men's. You come into town, park or school. You have the main intersection. Then you go by YMIA school and you have Hawaii, Canada, France, and the Carter Center come back through town and then all the way up to the Fish and Hog, which is two doors on the Hongka side of the subject property. So just in the immediate area, you have underdeveloped fish and hog. They are actually able to build another building on that property. Ricky Richard White owns the little coffee places. That's underdeveloped. And then you have Waka Yamas are is undeveloped, which they have over 16 acres. They're egg, commercial, and residentially zoned there. Then there's a nice, actually, Benji, who will testify his commercial lot right next to the subject property on the YMS side is underdeveloped. And I know that property very, very well. I represented it a couple of times. And then you have another commercial lot that is undeveloped. So just in the immediate area, there is room for expansion on the properties that are already zoned commercial. If you, I'm sure everybody knows where Foodland is in Y-Maya, you have Foodland, you have the big parking lot in the front, it includes first Hawaiian Bank and the Credit Union, the parking lot on the side and the parking lot in the back. That's just over 14 acres. In Y-Maya, there's almost 100 acres of underdeveloped and undeveloped land in Y-Maya. Parker Ranch out here has 71 acres here. That's commercial, part of that's commercial. This lot here, here and here, that's all undeveloped commercial, already-zone commercial. So there's really, there's no need for anything else to be-zone commercial. There's enough there if anybody wants to build, you know. There's plenty, there's plenty. There's, are my three minutes up or no? Oh, okay. Please proceed your testimony on Bill 198. Yeah, 198. Okay, moving into residential. Again, okay. So please proceed your testimony on Bill 198. 198, okay, moving into residential. Again, sorry. One through. Bill 198 pertains to the state land use urban to rural designation, not zoning. Just to be clear, thank you. Thank you. So you have big parcels, Parker Ranch land. This is a big 60 plus acre lot. This is 13 acres here, 8.5 acres here, two almost three acres here. And then this is again the 71 acre. I call it the breaking pen lot. That's just kind of what I named it because it is there. So you have again almost a hundred acres here that's already zoned residential. That can be built on it Parker Rantz this big lot is for sale presently I have investors looking at it and they've already gotten pre-approval for between 160 and 180 homes They have their infrastructure is there you tell you know everything's there There's a nice lot right by Pukalani. It's just over four acres. I know that there is a PSA out on that lot. That's commercial mixed use. So there's Parker Ranch has put in an application for nine six-plex buildings. 10% of that has to be affordable housing. As does this big Parker Ranch lot here, and I'm sure there's other big parker ranch lot here. So, and then of course you get your one-offs, right? You know, just private smaller homeowners selling and buying and all of that stuff. So my point is, is that there's a lot of commercial already zoned in Weimea. There's a lot of residential already zoned in Weimea. The subject property, it's prime, prime, prime agricultural land. The old Ishiara family, you know, in our last meeting on August 18th, Councilwoman Nabori Kawa was asked, Metzler, have you reached out to any lenient, lenient descendants? Joni Metzler jumped in and said that she did. Well, but she did not because if anybody knows the Ishi-Hara family in Waimea, I can drive right up to Violet Ishi-Hara's house. They've never been approached, they've never been asked. You know, there's never been any community outreach from the messlers, you know? John and I live right next to the Metzlers. Joni called John, a horrible, horrible, horrible phone call. Horrible. I won't repeat it, but it was a horrible phone call. You know, that's not how you try and work with your neighbors. If you're going to want to accomplish something. So anyway, my hope point, Council Members, is that there's plenty of commercial and there's plenty of residential already in Y-Mail. And, you know, we just don't need, we want to keep as much as we can agricultural. I was in Honolulu last week, speaking to a gentleman, where are you from? I'm from Y-Mail, Y-Mail, so beautiful. I wish my family raised us in Y-Mail. We love visiting Y may it's green there's pastors there's animals It's ranch land. That's what people love and that's what people know about why may and that's why John and I born and raised Generational that's why we continue to live there and we love it So thank you very very much council members. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for your testimony, Mr. Coano. May proceed with your testimony. I'm Bill 198 and we'll bill 199. You left three minutes for each. If you do not clearly transition, you left three minutes in total. Please proceed. Good morning, good morning everyone. My name is John Coano. I reside. I reside on the property, the Honoka side of the property. We've been there for three generations. And am I allowed to elaborate on the floodplain? And I have maps. Can I give you guys a map? elaborate on the floodplain. And I have maps. Can I give you guys a map? Is that appropriate? Okay. So as you see, I forget who was elaborating on the floodplain. Or Benji, more'll probably elaborate on this. But I would say half of the property is covered in an AE floodplain. So Mr. Mezzler has proposed three different TMKs for that commercial area. So one of the three lots will be in this AE floodplain. So when you say you guys approved this, there's three lots available. How is he going to be held accountable for what he says he wants to do here? He can just sell one of the three lots. And just so happens, what if the lot is that Honakasai lot with the A.E. floodplain, then there's no disclosure, there's no nothing. People are in trouble who invested in it, they're thinking, hey, I'm gonna develop this commercially. And it's happened with Benji and it's happened with Bob Sims, two doors down. So why don't we stop it here and go, hey, this is not appropriate for this land. Let's keep it egg residential. So that's my point that I wanted to make and then in the back there is also another floodplain. It's called Lanemamao Stream. And that will be another issue for the lots in the Behak. Cause I believe he wanted to split it to five lots. But with that floodplain back there, it's gonna impact those lots too. So maybe this might save Mr. Metzler a little time, you know, and money. So I just like to bring that point up today. That's it. Thank you for your testimony. Kureas Miss Anna, co-opi, to come forward. It has a fire in bill 199. Let me proceed. Other side. There you go. Aloha, council members. My name is Anna Navahini-Kohopi. I oppose this development. I'm from Waimea, four generations being raised in Waimea. I'm opposed to 198, 199. Over 700, 1,700 testimonies were received by the Planning Commission and 700 of those were Waimea residents who said no to this project. The project is not in compliance with the general plan. With the amount of vacant space already in Waimea, we don't need more retail area. We're already experiencing disruptions in our water quality and our power. We are experiencing an increase in rolling blackouts. Too much traffic, overcrowding of our schools and medical facilities. Personally, my property taxes have quadrupled in the last eight years. We don't have the infrastructure for more development. Resorting egg lands directly relates to the sowing cost of food that we have to put up with, which has risen 28% in the last five years and 13% being taxed on for shipping. My number one concern is when will we get serious about our food supply. Resoning the richest, most fertile egg lands on our moco, when the county has allowed the doubling of our island's population, there's no thought of our food stock. Importing 90% of our food with only a three-day supply is reckless. One acre of land can produce 25,000 pounds of food a year, and those acres need to remain zoned egg to feed our people. Number two, the project also contributes to the soaring level of gentrification we're experiencing in Waimea. Continually displacing our local people, the affordable housing is obviously not happening for us. According to Hawaii real estate.org, the list price of a home in Waimea has increased by 28% in the last year, now costing $600 a square foot. Intensification of economic disparity is also happening in our community along with culturally racial and the exploitation of our lands. Metsular LLC, both of having developed 25 of the most expensive properties in Hawaii. This model of success has exited a price paid by our local people in loss of access to beaches, traditional gathering and ceremonial grounds, camping and fishing, opportunities for farming, and the dream of owning a home since we are no longer able to afford to melama our places. County Council, you are the last line of protection for our communities while being. Do not allow the rezoning of whatever egg lands we have left or the continued gentrification of our community. We need to live up to our island model, Olanamoku, meaning that our island have life, health, be able to heal and to thrive. Thank you. Thank you for your testimony. Just for fearing there is no additional testify from those who have not testified yet at this point in time. Mr. Clerk, just confirming that we do have one Zoom testifier who is requested to testify on items when they're introduced. Those are all the testifiers we have here at the beginning of your meeting. I would suggest to make that testimony now as we've been informed that those 1-9-8 and 1-9-9 will be taken first in the agenda. Thank you, Clerk. I haven't been able to testify and I had registered. Thank you, Mr. Benjamin Garfinkel. So as the clerk has suggested at this time, you had asked to testify on bills 198 and 199 when they were introduced. But here's your chance. If you'd like to, you can testify on those items now. You will give you three minutes unless you wish to transition between the two. And if so, let us know so we can reset your time. If not, you'll have three minutes as a whole. If you could just reintroduce yourself as you begin. I just sent you the request to start your video. Thank you, council members. This is Benji Garfinkle. I had previously testified at the Planning Commission. I do know John and Joni Mezzler. I live directly next door to them. I own a 20 acre parcel from Mamala Hoa to Kihello directly to the west of the Mezzler subject property. Spoken to many neighbors and people that live in YMAA. I have heard no body that I'm in touch with who is in favor of this project. And I don't want to get into personal vendetta's or who's telling the truth or not. But there was written testimony put in front of the planning commission after the last meeting or before it, which I need to clarify a couple of points and I am testifying on behalf of 198 and 199. So I bought this property several years ago from Parker Ranch. I've lived in Hawaii for 35 years. I've been on the big island since 2005. And I lived on Kauai and I watched all these issues. I am a real estate developer. On the mainland, I've done limited real estate development on the island of Kauai. So a couple of things that we need to get clear here. I am not running a rental operation on my property. The property I bought had five existing parker ranch cabins that me and my family have been restoring since we bought There are no rental properties When I first bought this property we did have two people friends Renting two homes my properties are not rented. They are not VRBO There's no long-term or short-term renters. This is my family's property. I also bought the old Yamaguchi property, which is currently commercially-zoned. A current a quarter, been for sale. CC Davenport was the broker, been for sale for years. I only bought it because the owner was turning it into a dump zone and it was directly next door to my house. So the medslers testify that I overpaid. I paid what I had to to get rid of a dump zone. That property is commercially zoned. You can go visit the property. There's one home on it from Parker Ranch that we've been fixing up. I have none for commercial development ambitions for that property. I am a developer. 30 seconds please. 30 seconds. No, I have six minutes because I've. If you'd like to transition to bill 199 at the end of this 30 seconds, we can reset your time. That's fine, I will. The property next door to me, Bob Sims closed down his operation. That building is falling down. The whole neighborhood is filled with buildings that need to be renovated. As I said, I'm a commercial property developer. I can't figure out why you would want any commercial development over here. For all the reasons everyone is testified to. As to the transition, we'll reset your time now. Thank you. As to taking five acre lots and making half acre lots in my opinion, since an immediate precedent to the neighborhood. As I said, I'm a real estate developer. I have 20 acres. If the messlers can down zone to half acre lots, from one acre, from five acre lots, I could get on 20 acres, 40 homes. The Christine counter who testified, she would do it, maybe CC and John would do it. I can tell you that farming doesn't make a lot of money. Real estate maybe does. So if you allow the changing of the zone in prime Ag land from one per five and we've watched this all over the island of Kauai, saying these are going to be little ag lots and they're going to be doing great little farming projects, that's a very possibility. But I know what most people are going to do. They are going to try to do the same thing. I am not against the messlers and I am not against developers, but as a YMAY resident and seeing prime ag lands being cut up into half acre lots makes no logical sense. So that's my testimony. I'm not here with any kind of vendetta or personal agenda. I plan on living on this property. I did not buy it for real estate investment. But I can tell you that if you allow a precedent. And in that planning commission hearing, there was testimony about the properties to the north that were developed in the 80s, where they took some lands and they re-zoned them to smaller lots. That is absolutely irrelevant. And the last thing is the traffic. We don't even walk across the street to walk up to the old trail with our dogs because it is impossible and dangerous to go across that street during certain times a day. And there is no sidewalk, there's no merge lane, there's no turning lanes. I live here, I come and go every day of the week as my wife and kids do. It is a left out, is an absolute, dangerous thing. And you see people forcing the issues all the time. Plus there's a merge lane coming from the cone aside towards 30 seconds. 30 seconds. And everybody is winging in there. So on top of trying to get squeezed in on the merge, you're going to have to make the quick turn into the medzler Commercial Project. And as CC testified to, I know personally, I've been in the food land center. I dealt with the brokers who do the leasing for the center. There are eight parcels, eight retail sites inside the center that are for lease today. And as CC said, we have parking we have traffic. Thank you so much for your test. Thank you, Mr. Carfekou, but we'll have to move on. Thank you. Thank you, Council members. Chair at this time those are all the testifiers we have at your remote sites. Sure, Nabi, that need to proceed with reading in bills 190 and bills 199. Very good. Bill 198, a men's estate, the state land use boundaries maps for the count of a wide by changing the district classification from the agricultural district to the rural district at Waimea, South Cahalahoa, covered by tax map, key 6-4-024-027 and bill 199, amend section 25-8-11, La Lamello Poo, Kapu Zone map, article 8, check 25 of the Hawaii County Code 1983, 2016 edition as amended by changing the district classification for Magicaltural Five Acres to residential agricultural point five acres and neighborhood commercial 10,000 square feet at Waimea, South Kohala, Hawaii covered by tax map key 6-4-024-027. Applicant Kaupu Lille LLC, Area 5.349 acres, the Leeward Planning Commission for a Fable recommendation for the amendments to the state of the land use boundaries map and an unfavorable recommendation for the requested change of zone, which allowed the applicant to step by the property to aid loss consisting of three retail commercial lots, front and mama low highway and five residential or cultural lots as properties located at 64-983, mama low highway, introduced, Mr. Clerk. Mahalo to our testifiers who came today to share their Manaou on these bills at the request of the applicant and their representative. We will be postponing both bills to October 15th. So with that, I'll ask my vice chair for a motion to postpone. Chair and Abbey would first need a motion on the floor for a motion to postpone. Chair and Noble would first need a motion on the floor for a failed recommendation if anybody is so inclined to make that motion. Is there a motion to 4 Bill 198199 to counsel with a favorable recommendation? I'm sorry to interrupt again, they would need to be individual motions as these bills are separate and distinct. All right, Ian. Chair. Motion to board bill 198 to the council with a favorable recommendation. Second. Moved by council member Kirkwood, seconded by council member legal aid to board bill 198 to council with the favorable recommendation and Ms. Kirkwood's go ahead. Thank you Chair. Motion to postpone bill 198 to the October 15th Committee hearing. Second. Move by Council Member Kirkwood. Second by Council Member Lee Loy to postpone bill 198 to the October 15th Committee meeting. Any discussion on postponement? Chair just to clarify, the postponement is coming at the request of the applicant. Yes. We need more time to consider options and coordinate with planning department. Yes, and I believe Mr. Array might be online if anyone has questions, but my office did did request receive the request to postpone. Is there any further discussion on postponement? All those in favor of postponing bill 198 to the October 15th committee meeting please say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries, aye. One excuse, Council Member Connelly, a client filter. With that motion, two, four, bill 199 to Council, would the favourable recommendation please? Second, so moved. Second. Moved by Council Member Kirkowitz and the second was by Councilmember Gellimba. Gellimba. Any discussion on the postponement? Sorry. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Bill 199 to the October 15th Committee hearings. Second. All my thoughts remember, Kirchord, second and back, Councilmember Galimba, to postpone Bill 199 to the October 15th committee meeting. Is there any discussion on this postponement? There being none. All those in favor of postponing Bill 199 to the October 15th committee meeting. They say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries with eight aye's. One excuse. Councilmember Conelli Kleinfelder. Again, both bills 198 and 199 will be heard on October 15th. Mahalo. Is there any additional testimony for resolutionolution 6-1-24? Very none. Resolution 6-1-24 authorize director of finance and negotiate a 65-year lease with the housing and land enterprise of Hawaii County doing business as Holly O'Hauvaee for the purpose of development and construction of a below market rate single family home on tax map key 2-4-051094 for community land trust program and a set lease amount of $10 per year. Allows for Holly O'Hauvaee to finance, construct and sell below market rate home on state lands, subject to affordability restrictions to an eligible purchaser to for affordable housing and shelter purposes. Introduce Mr. Inaba by request. Chair motions to forward resolution 611-24 to the Council with a favorable recommendation. Second. by Councilmember Courhood, seconded by Councilmember Caguata, 2-4-0. Resolution 6-1-2-4-2, the Council with the favorable recommendation. We do have assistant housing administrator Harry Yada, I believe, in our Heelow chambers. Mr. Yada, would you like to just give us an overview and then we'll open it up for discussion. Good morning, community chair, community members. The Office of Housing and Community Development requesting authorization for directive finance to negotiate a 65 year lease with housing land enterprise of Hawaii, county, DBA, Alio, Hawaii, who is the only community land trust, I understand, on the island. As you know, previously got counsel approval to do a new 65 year lease in the University Heights subdivision in Hilo. The lease was completed. The land trust actually just got their permits and are actually weeks away or maybe have started construction on a single family home, which is nice to see happening. And this is on the state land. The request in front of you is for another lot. It's owned by the state. It's on Lola Road near the AJ Hall. It's a 10,000 square foot lot. And so given the progress we've made on the university heights, which we consider kind of a pilot in that it's at least an sub-lease by the land trust. We feel confident we can proceed with the next of the land trust in Kona available to answer any questions. Thank you. Ms. Wicken, then is that correct if you'd like to come forward and make any comment at this time? at this time. If you could just start off by introducing yourself for the record and your role responsibilities with the organization. So good morning and thank you for your time. Good morning, in Hilo. My name is Loretta Wickenden. I'm the Executive Director of Paleo Hawaii. All right, and you can proceed if there's anything you would like to add prior to discussion from Council members. Thank you. As Miss Yadda said, we have begun or are beginning construction on the previous home that's in university heights. Permits have been approved and I think the septic has actually been installed this week or at least very soon. And we look forward very much to the opportunity to work on a second parcel of land which allows us to keep working towards our mission of providing affordable homes here in Hawaii. Thank you very much. Thank you. You're opening it up at this time for discussion, starting in Hilo. Chair. Council Member Kagiwata. Thank you, Chair. Good to see you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, Mr. President. that project, the construction starting on the project at University Heights, my friends actually bought the property next door to that lot and fixing up the home there so that they can live there as well. So looking forward to that and very supportive of this project as well, I think the land trust model is something that most folks can get behind and having these places be affordable to our residents is super important. So really appreciate the work you've done on this and your continued support for getting affordable housing built on our island. Thank you. Thank you. Any further discussion? If not. Chair, this is Council Member Gilemba. Oh, sorry, go ahead, Council Member Gilemba. Thanks, just a quick one. I just looking at the map, the text map. And I see that this is adjacent to a ten acre piece that's owned by the state. Is that kind of a number? If do you have any plans for that Mr. Tokie? I thought maybe I remember possibly you do. Yes, we do. This one lot, the subject of today is an individual lot, or some reason the state never did anything with, we got also as part of this disposition, we got an executive order on actually 30 acres adjacent to it that we're currently are planning for single family as well as potentially multi-family projects within the 38 groups. Great. Yeah, I think this is actually possibly the thing. I was planning to talk to you about before. Is the office of housing planning to do any like a lot preparations? I guess what I'm asking is I know I just came back from the planning conference and there was discussion there about how on Kauai their housing department Is actually sort of getting into the development mode as far as preparing you're putting in infrastructure for the mode as far as preparing, you're putting an infrastructure for developers to develop affordable housing such that some of the risk involved is somewhat mitigated. And I was wondering if we are also doing this, and if this might be one of those sites where that might be happening. Yes, we have actually funding to do the engineering and the plans for the roads and infrastructure on this parcel. And we would probably go out for an RFP to develop the multi-family sites as well as single-family lots that will potentially be future of community land trust projects. So we forecast, I think it was 30 something single family lots as well as two multi-family horses that could be rentals. This is state lands, so it can't be sold. But we can do community land trust projects as well as leases for multi-family projects. Thank you very much and thanks for the lot of to chair. I support this project but I'm glad to hear that we're looking at a little bit more scale on the same model. Thanks very much. Great. I yield. All right. Any further discussion? Just a question, Mr. Yada, the ground lease, when we do these types of agreements, does they give the county the opportunity to terminate the lease or are we locked in for the full duration? Well, I mean, any lease can be terminated if there's a default. Obviously, we hope that never happens, but it's a leak. So it has some default causes. This would be a sub-lease to the buyer under a community land trust situation. So there could be a default theoretically by the buyer that could maybe reflect, but my understanding is the land trust also has the authorization to assume that we'll buy back the lease from a purchaser. So we don't anticipate the chances of default and a cancellation, but it can always happen. All right, thank you. With that, all those in favor of forwarding resolution, 6-1-1-2-4 to council with the favor of recommendation, please say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries, eight, aye's. One excuse, council member, cannelli Klein-Felder. This brings us to the end of our agenda. So this meeting is adjourned at 11.20 a.m. and the next meeting scheduled for today is the government, government operations and external affairs committee which is set to begin at 1 p.m. model.