I'm going to go to the first of all please silence or turn your phones off so we don't get interrupted in the proceeding. Read a statement here first. Welcome to the December of 2024 meeting of the Lachua County code enforcement special magistrate hearing. Purpose of this hearing is to hear alleged code violations filed by the various departments of the Lachua County, Florida. Code enforcement special magistrate was established by Florida Statutes, Chapter 162 in Lachua County ordinances to obtain compliance with various county ordinances and regulations. I have no authority to change the ordinances or any of the regulations we will be addressing today. That can only be done by the Lachua County Board of County Commissioners. The code enforcement magistrate can determine if the violation is occurred, set a date for full compliance and levier find for non-compliance. The decisions of the Lachua County Code and Forrest and Special Magistrate can only be appealed to the courts and not to the Board of County Commissioners. The procedure we'll follow today is the secretary, Jackie, we'll call the case. County staff will present their case. The respondent shall have an opportunity to present its defense to the case. I will make a decision at a future date and the respondent will be notified by mail that decision. All persons testifying will do so under oath by swearing or affirming that they will tell the truth. Any evidence in the form of documents or photographs must be submitted to the clerk for inclusion in the record. For all those people, testifying staff and respondents, would you please rise and raise your right hand and have Jackie swear you in? Everyone who will be testifying today, please stand and raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give in these cases today will be the truth and the whole truth? Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. That saves a lot of time. I had to have it repeated over and over again. All right. Jackie, you want to call the first case. Case number 2-00844, Alachua County versus Priscilla Bryant Taylor for a violation of section 74.20B, Alachua County Code on serviceable vehicles in section 74.29, Alachua County Code prohibited hazardous lands, dangerous structures, and the code officer is Alante Web. Okay, someone representing Miss Taylor here. Are you? Miss Taylor? Yeah, if you want to come over to the podium because we'll have you speak there from the podium on the side, that way you don't have to. So if you want to have a seat over there, next to the lady in red. Good morning. Good morning. My name is Alante Webb, Code Officer for Allotra County. In Code Enforcement Case 24-0000844, the county received a complaint on January 26, 2024 regarding the property located at address 7 824 Southwest 50 second place Gainesville in a Latvia County Florida and identified by parcel number 06 857-002-028. The owner of the the on the property is Priscilla Bryant Taylor. Code administration initiated an enforcement proceeding and found there to be a violation of the following sections of Alachua County code of ordinances. 74.29 prohibited hazardous lands and dangerous structures. 74.20B on the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for the state's budget for have determined that the respondent is now in compliance of the said allotria county code sections. My last inspection of the property was today December 5th, 2024. I have good service of notices and statement of violations to respondent sent by certified mail, received or received or posting. Copies have been provided to the magistrate and I request that they be entered into evidence. I have had contact with the respondent regarding the violations. The photo graphs being presented were taken by myself and accurately reflect the violations and compliance and acts that they be admitted into evidence. The county's recommendation is that the respondent to be found guilty but in compliance of the said sections of the code. The county's recommendation is that responding to be found guilty but in compliance of the said sections of the code. The county has incurred $700 cost and bringing this case to action and to hearing and to file the lien. Okay. Sure opportunity would you. Okay my name is Miss Priscilla Taylor the address is 824 south west 50 second place. Gainesville floor 3268. What I want to say I want to think is Wales for working along with me with this situation. I'm not able to receive my mail because of the house. It means sent back, but she did work with me and I really appreciate you Miss Wales. And I thank you all. Okay. Well, thank you for being here. And you're okay with everything. She's present because she found you in compliance. And the only thing the county is seeking is the cost of prosecution of bringing the case. Yes, her. Comfortable with that? Yes, sir. I am. I just need to talk to the people about a payment plan. Wait, we can set up a payment plan for you that's perfectly within your situation. And as long as you comply with that plan plan. I will. No, it won't be a problem. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay That moves us on to case number three. Case number two, four, dash zero, zero, two, zero, one, two. Alachua County versus Richard Moore. And we have a signed consent agreement that we're asking for your approval on. The code officer is Betty Rosenblatt. So, I was frozen, but you want to come up and just briefly speak. Just so you know that since all parties were in agreement, I've already signed it door but just on the record explain a little bit about Mr. Moore's property adjacent to his commercial industrial property was cleared The tree code surface water and wetland code was violated. We sent a notice of violation It took his consultant a very long time to address it with a lengthy report But we do have a restoration plan in place and consent order is signed accordingly. Okay, great Thank you very much appreciate that. Thank you. Have a little you've glad you see your way to work that out All right, I'm going to move now into our penalty phase. I have a statement to read for that. Non-compliance hearings are strictly to evaluate if in order that has been created by me, the special magistrate has been followed or has not been followed. I will not hear you hear the case as the special magistrate has an authority to revisit its previous action. The special magistrate's policy for conducting a non-compliance hearing is as follows. Determine if the respondent is in compliance or not in compliance. Give the county in the respondent an opportunity to speak on the non-compliance or compliance. Make a decision regarding compliance or non-compliance and if found a non-compliance placement of a lien on the property. So call the first case, Pendy. Case number SM24-065 and let's go to a county versus Jerry Lawson stodge Hill errors are the anybody representing the learning stodge all airs here Anybody here representing the respondant seen none County, please proceed Good officer Kelly Porrier. Kelly Porrier, Court officer for Latria County. The respondent did not come into compliance before the compliance state. So we're asking that he is in He is not in compliance Okay, when was the last inspection on the property? I was actually there yesterday your honor. Okay, so 12 as of 12 sides still not in compliance. Okay, when was the last inspection on the property? I was actually there yesterday, Your Honor. Okay, so 12 as of 12 sides still not in compliance. Yes, sir. Okay. All right. Again, is there anybody here representing the heirs? Okay. I don't have any case number. We're calling case number. I please. Case number SM24-064, a Latua County versus Betty Badget. Okay, somebody here representing Betty Badget. Okay, if you wanna have come over to the bottom near the podium. And that's Codoff sir Kelly Poreer. Okay, hang on, just'll make a few notes here. All right, go ahead. Kelly Porier,ier, Codos, or for the Lachel County. The respondent did not come in compliance before the compliance date. So we're asking that they would be in noncompliance. Okay. And when did you inspect the process? I was there yesterday, Your Honor. The fourth? As of 12-5. All right. Yes, sir. All right. If you want, is're opportunity to speak and let Kathy get in or issued the Would you please see your name and residence address for the record? Betty Badge and 1609 Northeast 30th Street and Oak Hill of Laura. Okay. So what can you tell me? I'm sorry, but I cannot hear you. So I won't have to look at what is being said. Okay, so can you pull the microphone over towards you? Can she pull the microphone over towards her? It'll move. There you go. I have received so many letters and all of them have entirely different dates of the noncompliance and what is owned the property, what is not owned the property. I was here August 1st and at that time it was for accumulation of drum and I was given you gave me 60 days to do it. Clear up the property. It's very expensive to get property clean to them. My daughter and I cannot do it ourselves. I found a son found a friend that would help us and had some people who would help us and had some people that would work with him to do it. I contacted Kelly and told her that we had a date set up and two days before the date that they would start cleaning up the friend's dollar, $18-year-old dollar was killed and the owner will be like soon. So I informed Kelly and told her that it would be a few up, we had a hurricane. And then we had a second hurricane. And after these hurricanes, the people who were going to help me went to North Carolina and Tennessee probably, but because they could make a lot of money and do in the clean up work. And then I notified Kelly that I had sold the property and that the closing date was to be decent to the night. I thought that that would be sufficient, that I would not have to do not state this. Now it says here, accumulation of junk, and then it has parking of trucks, recreational vehicles, and trailers, and those are not on the property. They haven't been on the property. The 2009 lien was sent to that address, 1620,, 23. Anyway, and never sent to me. I have not lived on that property since 1991. My family has lived there, but they moved away and no one has lived on the property since 2007. Letters were apparently delivered there about devolation. They had to have been returned because that's what the post office does. There has not even been a mailbox on that property for years. No one of these notices was ever made to me. I lived in Newcala and Bellevue and it wasn't because they didn't have the address, because I received a notice about taxes every year. So somewhere has my current address all the time. But apparently codes kept mailing these notices if they mail them to that address. But no box, nothing. So the code enforcement uses the address on file with the property appraiser for that property. So if the property appraiser has that address, that's what they use. Now the tax collector has a different system in our county than the property appraiser. So my understanding of county is correct is that what's what you use to access? Yes, Your Honor. Okay. All right, so the background. So what we're here today is for compliance or non-compliance. Now, the Florida Statute and the county code also requires you, if you sell the property, to make the buyer aware that there is an enforcement action against it as well as a leaning for code violations. Does the buyer is the buyer aware of that? I don't really know for sure why I'm here today, whether it's for the lean that we are that we discussed August 1st. Our video is really from 2009 because in the letter that I received both were mentioned. You're here today for noncompliance on accumulation of materials, which was back in August as when that case was heard. You're not here on the 2009. That's not what it says in the letter, but okay. Okay. The only thing that I was here for on August 1st was the accumulation of junk. Correct. But over here it has recreational vehicles. That's part of the statute that's included in. It's not that you're cited for those. That statute or that ordinance section mentions accumulation junk and vehicles and stuff to like that as well. If I'm correct on that? Yes, Your Honor. I just wanted to state, back in 2009, she did have a recreational vehicle on the property. I was not the code officer at the time, but she was in compliance with that. So that was not part of my case. And I don't know if there's a lien on the property from 2009 or not. It would appear from what she's stating that there is potential. Okay. But that's not what we're here for today. We're here for the accumulation of junk and compliance. And I understand that you've been making efforts to do that and get that in compliance. Now, that, and you understand that you're closing it on the sale of the property on December 9th. Okay. So that what is going to happen is that since you're not in compliance at this point, my finding will be that you're not in compliance and that the fines will continue until compliance and there will be a lien filed on the property. And the buyer will probably take that property if they can close subject to the lien. It certainly take it subject to the 2009 lien. All right. Now you have the opportunity to come back once it's in compliance to seek a reduction in the fines. And in fact, there's a couple cases today at the end of this proceeding that will involve that where somebody who's going to come in who's been found guilty had fines. So I have to come back if I want to get a reduction of the— Yes, but you would do that after the properties in compliance. The way the— I just get the property in compliance. I'm not able to do that. It is impossible. So whatever leans that are on that property will just continue until I die. Well, if you sell the property, at that point it becomes the responsibility of the new owner. Because that property will be out of compliance when they buy it. Well, it will probably stay out of compliance. But I have to make an appointment if I want to request a reduction. Yes, but you can only do that if it's back in compliance. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you for coming. All right. Anything else from the county on that? No, you're on it. Okay. I believe we're now moving into... I'm going into old into old businesses, correct? Check it. Let me make a quick bathroom break for myself. I'll be back. you We're ready for our next item. I believe this is a motion. First day. First day. Okay. So let me read. I have a statement for a reduction since this is a, well, let's do this day and then I'll read the, because it doesn't, it doesn't bear on that. Okay. All right. One, call the case, please. Let's do this day and then I'll read the because it doesn't it doesn't bear on that so I want to call the case please. Ace number sm23-042 Alachua County versus Shigo Thomas Junior trustee of land trust 17601 for order of stay Okay, good morning Once again. Good morning now just for clarification. Are you appearing as attorney or as a witness? I have the unfortunate Duty to do both do both So we're gonna have to be very clear when I'm Yeah, so we're gonna be have to be okay now is your attorney for gonna appear by zoom? There was a potential there. My co-concil on the appellate case was going to attend by Zoom or some telephone. Yes, I'm here. Okay. You all hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Okay. Yes. I mean, so Mr. Shago is handling the representation. I'm here to observe and if there's any question that comes up about the appeal, anything like that? Okay, yeah, at this point, I don't see anything. I have any jurisdiction over the appeal and stuff other than for informational purposes. County attorneys is here as well. But Mr. Shigo, if you're gonna be a witness, and you were sworn in, it was. Yes, it was. Okay, fine. But let's make it very clear because it's a little confusing a couple times ago about when you were witness and when you were as attorney. So let's try to make that as clear as we can. So if you can remember, if I think you're being a witness, I'll ask, but let's go ahead and proceed. Okay, Your Honor. Again, I'm Thomas Shago, the trustee of the 17601 land trust and also a member of the Florida Bar. I think you mentioned that we were here for our motion for stay. That's what we had. Also a motion to reconsider or amend. I thought we were appearing for as well. to reconsider or amend. Okay. I thought we were appearing for as well. Okay. Okay, so which one do you want to take first? I guess we'll do the stay at first. I think that's a clear issue. Okay. To recap everything, we had a prior hearing on November or two, 2023, finding effects in order where we issued November 16, 2023, with a findings that the retaining law was not guilty of a violation. The proposed fill activities were done without a valid exception, and we had 90 days to submit a development plan. At the time we appealed to CERCA Court on December 15th was made. After that appeal was made, we actually received a report from Torban Abbott dated December 18, a civil engineer regarding the water issues and drainage issues at the property. We made a motion to, we'll, we'll link with jurisdiction, come at the same time we made this motion here. The circuit court entered an order on November 15, 2023, we're lik receiving jurisdiction to you on the motion to reconsider. For the state of penalties, that issue, again, we've appealed to you one of which is our statutory right, and we request that the penalties and compliance without order be stayed until such time as that appeal is resolved at the circuit court. We feel that's a due process issue with case law cited that accruing penalties and forging compliance when we have a statutory right to appeal is not proper and actually undercuts our right to appeal in order of the registry. Okay, did you file a motion for stay and reconsideration? Because I don't have anything yes I did I file both report in my file. That engineer report and other exhibits we were provided to the Corps yesterday in preparation that's hearing. That's all I have. I do not have any legal filings in terms of. But go ahead, proceed. I'm sure I can get that copy. Okay, hand. Again, we request that there be a stay of a crewing appellate and compliance with the submission of that order until the matter is resolved at the circuit court appeal level. Okay. And... So is that the stay? That's the stay side. Okay, so let's move on to the amend or reconsideration. While preparing for the request for stay, we realize we probably need to request a modification or at least a clarification of the order issued on November 16th, especially in light of the Civil Engineering Report that we're providing as composite 7. For some background on that, to add some contact to that report, I'm now gonna switch over to be a witness. Okay. On June 23, 2023, I was called to the property to observe flooding erosion damage as a result of a long period of rain. Upon arriving at the scene, I made several observations and made big pictures of those observations. These were done in the afternoon, all the 23rd about three o'clock PM. Respondents exhibit number one shows a picture from veterans way looking at 59th Street. And you can see that there is sediment and water. So we don't have any pictures. Let me have what I have in my packet. Were these included in the engineer's report by chance? No. Because there's pictures of flooding. Yes, there are. But these are different pictures. OK. I took them and I saw. I mean, I can hang it. Do you have it? If not, I can do. I do not have it. So it's going to be. So yeah, if you have them, they can put them on the overhead so we can make them part of it. So at least I understand what you're, it's a little hard unless I'm going to get the idea of explanation. All right, now I have this picture. These are part of the engineers report. There's a, yeah, I guess there are several pictures of part of the engineers report. These are observations that I made myself in document. You see that this is a picture of again the 59th Street water flowing down the street that's full of settlement and across, and across the veterans way that actually is throwing onto the trust property. This is actually on the east side of 59th. This one is exited number two. here's again standing at the intersection of 59th Street and Veterans Way but this is looking towards the west of 59th Street and showing again that there's no drainage along that part of veterans' way and the water and sediment are flowing cross-federns ray and on to the truss property. So the truss property is in the upper right hand corner? The truss property is in the upper right hand corner. Yes. Actually it's all mostly along that right hand side. Okay. Alright I have that picture in the report as well. Well, I'm at it. Does the county have any objections to these exhibits? No. Okay. Just for clarification now, what date did you say these exhibits were from? Go ahead. Just for clarification though, what date did you say these exhibits were from? Yeah, from June 23, 23. Go near the microphone because it's not picking up. June 23, 2023, and approximately three to 3.30 pm. Okay, that's number three. 30 p.m. Okay, that's number three. I also have a copy in their engineer's report too. I also have a copy of that in the report. It's going to be added to the Indian is report afterwards because those are my pictures. Yeah, with Mr. Abbott. I did not provide them to Mr. Abbott. Okay. All right, go ahead. Okay, next is respondents exhibit number three. This is on veterans way further east of 59th Street, again, it's showing a sheet of water coming down 59th Street across Veterans Way and onto the trust in neighboring properties. Along that on the left-hand side, you also see that there's a Brom that was been created along 59th Street due to the county grading that and creating a kind of like a Tunnel effect where the water just sheets down that that road in across Veterans waiting on Underwater Property. All the drainage is blocked. This exhibit is, uh, Respondent Exhibit Number 4, and it shows a shot down, uh, Veterans Way at the intersection of 59th Street, and it shows the accumulation of muddy water flowing along there and on the right hand side you can actually see that the water is breaking out and flowing onto the property adjacent to the trust property. Okay so this flooding is not on the trust property but on the adjacent property. We'll get there. That water eventually is not on the trust property, but on the Jason property. We'll get there. That water eventually ends up on the trust property. But right, it just, it would juncture in this photo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not there yet. So the tree area is not the trust property? The tree is not the trust property, but the excavation you see along that road is was not done by the trust and that was done by the county who who was doing grading in that area when they graded the road 59th Street and as you can see at that area of Veterans Way there is no drainage along Veterans a drink, and you need to stop formal. Well, it's mother nature. Yes. Go ahead. This is respondent exhibit number 5 and again it's it's so it's a shot toward veterans way on the property showing that the water along veterans way is breaking out and flowing on to the property at this point adjacent to other trust property on veterans' way. This is our respondents exhibit number six. And to address your question is that water is flowing across the adjacent property, work its way onto the trust property. There was so much water built up behind the retaining wall of the property. It broke out the retaining wall and eroded all the fill and everything behind the retaining wall on the trust property. That has to be a lot, that's a lot of water, there was a lot of damage. Those blocks were 2,000 pounds of piece. For that water to move that earth and move the blocks of that size, that's a true man's problem we have there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, I want to move on to the parts of the engineering report that composite exhibit number seven, page four. Is that what we have or I can... Is that page four of the report? Yes. Okay. Is that page four of the report? Yes. And I assume you're still being witness at this time? Or you're in the office? I'm still being witness at this time, you all right? Go ahead. Actually, Your Honor, I don't need to be a witness on this. This is not my report. I was going to go about that. I'm going to go about that. And other than you wanted to extend a case that you received, and it's a document received in order to curse a business. That part is true. The photos I took and I had an accurate representation of what I observed on that day and documented. This report is what we received. Then we've been asking for this report for a couple months to document what's going on and what do we do? Okay, did the trust procure this report? Yes it did. Thank you. I just want to make clear. Alright, so what are you looking for me to look at in terms of this report? On page four, you know, part of the civil engineers observations was that while the trust was trying to control erosion on its property, the surrounding property were compromised by the mismanaged drainage systems on veterans' way and 59th Street. Basically, it includes compromised drainage, culverts that were allowed to be filled, and also questionable grading decisions on 59th Street. Okay, so how does that bear on my motion in a sense of because it seems to me this is more of an issue of trespassing eminent domain action. Well, you're on the reason why we want you to possibly revisit or amend your order as we were compelled to comply within 90 days with a site plan and submit that to the county. My problem is with this report and its conclusion, I'm not sure what remediation efforts we could come up with that will overcome the draining and erosion problems caused from the uphill properties and the improper or not fully utilized drainage of the county. And that's what we're running into a problem, is like there's nothing we can do. The engineers' conclusion, the Miss Madden's County stormwater drainage system that is incorrectly misdirected to the Land Trust, 17601 property is an ongoing hardship. The 12.58-acre tributary area of this section of Veterans Way is well beyond one that could reasonably mitigate within a 2.70-acre parcel. Well, we're trying to build a dyke against an oncoming tide here. We're not sure how we can do it. Okay. And so what do you want me to consider that? I want you to consider one or two things. First of all is removed the 90-day period to submit a site plan or report to the county under penalties when we don't know what we can do at this point to mitigate the ongoing damage and erosion to the property. Second thing is there was a finding that this situation was not properly within the exemption of 404.92 because the county did not declare an emergency. It's kind of hard to ask the county to declare a emergency when the conditions that gave rise to this flooding and erosion were directly due to the county's mismanagement of the drainage. in this situation to find an emergency did exist for the attempt at remediation of the flooding damage. And this event occurred on June? This event was documented on June 23rd. I believe that was the end of several days of heavy rain. Right. And that was at least five months before my decision. Correct. This my decision was never. Five months before your decision based on evidence that was submitted at the beginning, documented by the county at the beginning of June, and we did not have this report documenting the drainage problems until after your decision. But you knew of the flooding in June. Yes, we knew of the flooding, that's what. We didn't raise it at the hearing. Yes, we did. We brought up the issue of the flooding, and the finding was it did not constitute an emergency to justify proceeding without a permit. I'll have to go back and look at the testimony from the but I have no recollection at this point of flooding being raised or those pictures being presented at the hearing. Well these pictures were not presented at the hearing. There were other other pictures but the testimony of Mr. Olander was that we had this was why we were taking the fill and remediation actions was to control the recurrent flooding and erosion on the trust property. Okay. Okay. Anything else? I know you're on our, I don't believe. County have a response. A response to both motions. Just if we want to go back to the stay briefly. Sure, let's take him in order. The accrual of fees that is ongoing does not impact or hinder their right to appeal. It does not, is not a prerequisite for them to appeal. If in fact they're successful on the appeal, they could come back for a reduction or complete waiver of those fees. So staying the fees doesn't benefit them in any way. It does put people on notice as far as ongoing enforcement actions and ongoing fines accruing to property. So we would oppose the stay as it applies to any fees that go forward. Just for the record on the motion for modification, Mr. Shago is not qualified as an engineer record. There is a report in here. The engineer is not here to testify to that. So I think statements regarding Mr. Shago's statements regarding the mismanagement of county water are not, he's not qualified to give that testimony. As far as the modification, what Mr. Shago is testifying to is exactly what a site plan could alleviate. The idea that you would come to the county with a site plan for how you address any water impacts any flow, that's exactly the purpose of coming to the county and working with county staff and getting approval for a site plan going forward. So we would oppose that because ultimately it would take away the obligation and incentive for the respondent to come forward and try to alleviate these concerns. Okay. Any reply as to council? Yes. As far as the stay, the accruing of fees and penalties during the appeal, basically dampens a litigants right to appeal that is under the statute. Just staying those during the appeal process doesn't relieve the property owner of penalties are growing after that, that action has been heard and decided. And yes, there, there I am not the certified, but we have, I've been working with two certified this is a report I didn't have we try to get this on the on the doc as fast as we could and it was an informed late that they were not able to if we could if Council wants we can go ahead and reconvene this and I can have them both here or we can submit an affidavit of their findings. When you say they, who you referring to? Torbin Abbott, who author this report and another civil engineer we've been working with on the property, a Wayne Walker. I don't think that's necessary for me in terms of making my decision to have them present in terms of I have the report before me. I would hope to be report speaks for itself and addresses our issue as to how we can come up with a site plan that remediates flooding from neighboring properties. Okay. Anything else from the county? a site plan that remediates floating from neighboring properties. Okay. All right. Anything else from the county? Yeah. Anything else here, Mr. Shaggle? No, you got it. Okay. Council on town has anything? Yes. I was just regarding this stay. There would be no prejudice to the county to allow a stay of the penalties while we work out the appeal. We have no control over how long the court will take to handle the appeal and it just puts us in an untenable position to be constantly worried about our crew and fines while we're making our argument to the court. If we have to worry about fines, then we would have to proceed with a site plan that the court may ultimately say never should have been required. So I would just reiterate that a stay is appropriate and there's no harm to the county, but there's great harm to us in the essence of the state. Okay. Okay. County have anything in response to that. I think you've covered it in your earlier response. That's fine. Okay, that'll conclude that parcel. Thank you for being here. Thank you. And now let me read a statement since we're moving into reductions in funds. I will now hear requests for reduction of fines and rescission of leans. The decision to grant or deny your request is solely within my discretion per the statutes and the county ordinances. In making my decision, I may consider recommendations from a latch will county code administration. Please state precisely what you were requesting and why you believe that I should grant your request. You may present any information that is relevant to your request. The only purpose of this hearing is to consider a reduction of fine and decision-learn. This is not an opportunity to discuss the original funding of guilt for the violations. Please refrain from commenting on the original proceedings, and I have no authority to revisit the final action. The policy is to hear a reduction request maximum two times. If you fail to appear the first time, it will be counted as a request. Since both parties I believe are here, I won't proceed on that since we have both parties here. So if you will call the first reduction request, please. Case number SM24-050, Alachua County versus Heidi D. Reichart. Okay, Mr. Reichart. It's your opportunity. It's a little different. You get to go first. So if you want to go over to that podium there and I'll leave this one open, case the county has a position that they want to stay. And Jackie, on this one, if you can give me a copy of these, because I did not get those. Okay. We'll get those maybe before I leave today. Okay. Would you please state your name and residence address for the record? Heidi Reichart and 14813 Northwest 39th place. This is my brother. Could you please state your name in residence address for the record? Scott Law, 148-11, Northwest 39th place, kneeberry floor to 326-669. All right, you get to go first. Tell me why I should reduce the lanes. I don't really even know where to start. I just want to say I'm sorry. I did not realize the importance of this. I, my brother sold a house and was moving to a neighborhood and had to quickly move his shed. I've never purchased a shed or I've owned property for 20 over 20 years in Gainesville. But so I just, we quickly, I said just put it out by our little barn which my grandfather built. It needs to be torn down anyways. It was not ever gonna be a permanent thing. He was going to buy. So then he gets divorced and then he's gonna buy a new property and we just kind of, it just took longer than we expected. I was under the impression we would tear down our barn so it would be okay and then I got a little sentimental about it because my grandfather built it and anyways so I'm very sorry I never read any of the paperwork I kind of just handed it to him he's a slacker. Welcome to the club. So the first that I really knew this was an actual like serious offense. I was when we spoke in my driveway and so as soon as I talked to her, we had it moved like the next day. And so it's gone. It was gone like this. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't gone. Okay, so that's one of the requirements to come and ask. So we paid the prosecution for anything. That's the requirement to come. And I have not told my husband the amount of the prosecution. Right. That's a requirement. And I have not told my husband the amount of the fines. So I'm just asking you for forgiveness. I promise we'll never do anything like this again. If you would like to speak to him, I mean, you would give him a lecture. I think I'll leave that between you two. Yeah, I understand. I forgot siblings I think I'll leave that between you two. I'll give the worst it because he's my brother. Yeah, I understand. I forgot siblings too. I'll leave that between you two. So Jackie, what's the cumulative fund? $9,100. Okay. Tell me, is the county have a position on this? Well, I did just want to state for your consideration that when we brought the case before you, the day before the hearing, I went over to the location and spoke to the respondent's brother who said he had a company hired that was going to remove the shed the next day. But when I came before you, I asked for a 30 day time frame. So within that 30 days, I went back and I realized that the shed had not been removed, so that's when I spoke to the respondent. So I just wanted to let you know that. Hey Ken, you addressed the issue about what happened to, was going to be moved but then didn't happen? So I was actually in the process of purchasing a piece of property and I needed to be able to move it to there and I wasn't able to move it as fast as I thought I was going to be able to with closing or anything so that's what, yeah I did did I met her I think in the driveway and told her we were gonna move it and Take a little longer than I thought and I that was that was my fault too But since then yeah, it's been moved to the property and is is going from there now, okay All right, can you have a position on what would be appropriate? No, I do not you're okay I know you all don't but I have to ask okay. I do have one request If sure, I know I know there is a fine to it. This is my fault, not her fault. If there's any way the fine or community service can be sent to me, I can take responsibility for it. And so she's in the clear and it's not. She's doing me a favor and I've kind of made a mess of the situation. I did. She gave me, I mean, she gave me ample opportunity. I mean, I'm out of the first day we were there. Yeah, she would have given you a lot of it. Ask for more, but you know, those things are hard to predict sometimes. And you heard we've had people with a show, her cane show up. And well, that happened too, but that's beside the facts. Yeah, understand. But yes. Okay, I'll make a decision. And yes, yeah, we can add if you want to give Jackie your address and stuff, she can make sure that she'll get a copy, but make sure you get a copy and then you can deal with it. And then as soon as you do that, there will be a reduction. I'll sit down on things. Typically, it's in the one that you'll have between one and 10% of what the original fine was accumulated. So somewhere between 90 and 900, just so. But I'll. Thank you. Okay. Kelly, anything from you on this one? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So you don't need to know. You're going to email her. Yeah. That was number six. Okay. Call please call the second case. Okay. Call the police call the second case. Case number SM24-020, a Lachua County versus Powerhouse Family Worship Center. Okay. So if you let Jackie get you identified. Morning. Please state your name and your address on the record. Leo Robinson 1310 Southwest 104 Street Gainesville 32607. And I have your letter in the file. Thank you for bringing that. Okay. And filing that because it gives me some information. I understand. So what more can you tell me? I was about like the young lady. I did not take this thing as serious when I got the information about moving the sheds. And I didn't know I was being fine from day one about that. They gave me that. I paid the 420 that was the fine that I think before that. And what took place is they started out with three sheds. So we told one of the sheds down. I was held responsible for that shed, which was there before I purchased the property. And I'm kind of old-schooled back in the days you can move stuff. And I didn't even think I needed permits just moving it from my property to where it was put. So what we had to do, I worked with Sergio, EDA engineering, the survey that we were going to be purchased for property was not sufficient during the time because of flood zones. So we had to get new surveys that took time with that. They gave me setback stakes to kind of modify. And the estimate, I don't have receipt for that. I have receipts for others. Right. I saw that in your letter. So to move those share would have cost me almost about $1500. So we was eight. I don't we had to get a machine to move that. I don't have receipt that have receipts for other things. So the permit fee was, what mostly building was $500. I have that information here. Right, and I think that's included in your letters, isn't it? Yes, okay, my secretary, my senator. Then they charged double finding for both permits. We had those as well. One was seven something and another was one was seven, 1456 to other one was five, 2640 and also have where, an invoice where we put Crush Asphalt out. And that was due Florida concrete recycling. That was $754.65. Also, I have the engineering work was $3800. So how much total do you wind up spending overall? Which is, doesn't just being exact to the penny, but. Without, include I didn't have the receipt. I didn't know if you was going to count it without counting the receipt. I got $6,715.61 plus about 1,500 for machine and 20 to 30 volunteers that had to take off of a richness to hit unpack those sheds and then put them back in place. And plus we had to buy other small material anchors and concrete to get those sheds put back in place. And they've been approved everything for that. Yeah, you wouldn't be here if you think so compliance and prosecution. So okay, does county have any position on this one? No, you're on. I just wanted to state the fact that there's a lot it has been working with code administration and also growth management. So we appreciate that. So we have no recommendation. Okay. And also, Yarno, we are in a community where we try, we build a youth center. That's the way we're working on donation for youth center, trying to get young people off the streets with fit and all done. I'm in a proper location. You can pass and see my sign, bend it for a while. We do fun raises on Saturday. We're trying to work in the community to help the community. So these things here were some unfortunate things where I, again, said that I was like with knowledge to the point what I was supposed to been doing. And I did have the extension, but I got it done. Even after we put them in place, their one shed was off five inches. Another one was off two plus inches, then we had to go back, get equipment, and then just to move them because they're so heavy shed, you just can't take a jacket and move them over. So we had to go back and reposition them to be able to be in compliance because of the flood zone. So we're X and 4, this reduction will be zero out because of what we're doing here. We, this through us of, we used to have two services. We're back, we, with pandemic, we were one services. Funds is not like it used to be. And people are getting back to church. So I'm still a working pastor. So So Jackie, what's the outstanding fine? $4,800 $48 sound Sound That's like a put I don't know, don't make me. I don't want to go to Z-Roe because the precedence goes to cases and stuff, but you've clearly spent a huge amount of money and you have been working with them. So it sounds very good. Okay, because that's consistent with folks in, we do any between, but one in 10%, depending on conditions. And we also have some, don't get any, because of the things. But in your case, you've given me ample opportunity in terms of the money spent. You've clearly been working with the county and the cross-managed. Thank you, county. Appreciate that. And also appreciate what you do for the community. Thank you. I appreciate you, sir. Yes, we appreciate you all. Thank you for the concern. Okay. All right. Is there any other items to Hacking? Your Honor, I do need to go back to case number 24-050, a Latvia County versus Heidi Wright Cart. The total was actually 4,800. Oh, okay. That would be- Oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 8,400. I have to ask more questions. Yeah, on a would do I pay we do I pay this at um you'll get a copy of my decision from Jackie and you can either send a check in or meet with her and she'll have you come she'll give you her contact I heard my ear cleaning that was $48.48. Thank you very much. So, 8400. Okay. Anything else, Jackie? That's it. Okay. All right. It's clearing. It's closed. It's 1006. six. Corbin.