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I'm gonna go back to the next room. Thank you. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. Thank you. you you you you you you So what I want to do is, is when we get to pick, I want to try to make it start. Yeah. That's what I wanted to do. . . . . and welcome to day two of the City of Oka Returns Strategic Planning sessions. It is Thursday, May 8, 2025. The time is 10 a.m. Welcome everyone. We're excited to start the second of two days of our strategic planning. Appreciate everyone's presence and comments yesterday and looking forward to more today. And I'll turn it over to our facilitators from pre-innovations. We have Trina Pulliam, Melinda Miller, and Sarah Spurlock. Welcome and thank you. Good morning. Mayor, Deputy Council, esteemed staff, and welcome everyone who is here from the community. Thank you so much for coming today too. I'm not sure I just became aware, so I'm not sure if you are aware, but it is public service recognition week this week. And I wanted to sort of start with something we said yesterday, but and we sort of ended with it. Mr. Thompson made some key remarks that I want to sort of piggyback on. And I wanted to just take the time to recognize the accomplishments of staff, that have been fortunate, and I do say fortunate, to work with the City of Book Raton and the staff. Like I said yesterday, we had monthly meetings with City Manager's office, and they're quick, intelligent, they're talented. We had a really amazing opportunity to work with the directors and the cross-functional teams with the city. And again, they're dedicated, they're very hard-working. things I find, perhaps different about this city versus some of the other cities where we work, I think for many of the people who work here, this isn't just a job for them. This is a life that they believe in. They are willing to take extraordinary amounts of time away from their families. I remember there was a workshop that we were in, that we watched publicly and I thought to myself, Brandon Shad's kids are the most well-behaved kids I have ever seen in my entire life to sit, to sit. And I know they weren't listening and maybe they were doing homework or maybe they were watching a movie on their iPads. I have no idea. But my goodness, they sat for hours waiting for the presentation that you had given. I was reminded in that moment that the people we work with here in this city have kids and families. And you too, as council members, have kids, I didn't realize how young your kids were until you said that yesterday, Mr. Mayor. And I know, you know, Mr. Thompson's got a family that he's dedicated to, and I've spoken to Councillor Drucker around, you know, college and different, you guys are so dedicated. And I just thought that being public service recognition week is a good time to just be reminded that this is an extraordinary place to be. And after yesterday, it's an extraordinary time to be here. I walked out yesterday so enthusiastic and excited about what the next generations of Boko-Rotonians, is that correct? Boko-Rotonians, have to look forward to, because it's big and it's neat. And the three of us went to dinner last night and had conversations around what's it gonna look like? And what do you think they mean by vibrant? Like what does that mean? Like is, and then Melinda and I drove home and we thought to ourselves, like how is the vibrant city of Boca Raton going to be different than the vibrancy of Miami Beach where we work, where we are in their local government as well. How is it going to be different here? And we just looked at each other and we were like, yeah, maybe Boka. Let's focus Boka, right? Because it's going to be different and it's going to be this flavor that is uniquely the city of Boka at home. And so I wanted to just use this opportunity to recognize the people that make it happen. And that's you as council and city manager's office and the rest of the staff that is very talented, very intelligent and unbelievably dedicated to the city in which they work. So. Applause. Thank you for allowing me those seven or eight minutes to do that. I would also like to move into today talking about where we're going today. So we have three strategic focus areas that I think will be more robust in terms of the dialogue among you, because as we started with Campus Master Plan and the related and associated interconnected projects, the strategic focus areas today, the outcomes you decide directly impact the downtown. And so we will talk about that. As we think about and talk about those focus areas, the intent of those conversations is to understand what the outcomes are. What are the targets? What are we aiming for? Imagine it's 2035, and you're here, and you're maybe coming back from a trip on Brightline, and you walk through the station, and you take a gondola down to the city center and there's an underground tunnel walking path through the major intersections at Palmetto Park Road and US 1 so that you can safely walk your bike to Meister Park and eat or go shopping. And then you decide you're staying in, it's 2035 and you're staying downtown and there's live music playing somewhere and it's being piped into wherever. And we thought, like, is that what it's gonna be like in 2035, is that what they want? And today's conversations are going to really impact the tangible changes that residents and stakeholders can feel 10 years from today. And I'm so excited to begin and have those conversations. As we look ahead, I also want to just throw out for you all to think about our indicators. So yesterday we talked a lot about data. And when we did our debrief, the three of us went to a local restaurant and we sat and we did our debrief in a local restaurant here, we decided that one of the key themes of yesterday was around data. And getting more data and having the right data and charting it in the right way. So Mr. Wigder brought up trends, we agreed trends would be something that would be not just interesting but a way to make decisions with wisdom. So data is just data. What you do with the data is you create information out of it, and then that information creates wisdom. And that can only be done if the data is presented in the right fashion. And so we wrote those key themes down and thought that's a place that we can seriously make impacts with your very talented stuff in the year to come. Think about if we hit the target, if we hit those targets in 2035, what won't we have here? So old technology, right? but does that impact the touch point on customer service? So those two things are seriously important as we think about where we're going in 10 years and the decisions we make today Make that happen and then finally Let's think about alignment and integration. How do we connect today's three focus areas with yesterday's four focus areas? And so, as we move forward, I'm going to ask staff members who might have had input yesterday to talk about how those things impact your positions, your functional areas, and the projects that you have going forward into these three focus areas. So I hope that gives you a picture of what we're going to do today. Okay, I will take a pause. Too excited and too enthusiastic? Any comments anyone? If not, we could proceed to public comment. All right. All right, at this point, we'll proceed to public comment. Anyone who wishes to speak, please come up to the lecture and give your name and address and you'll love the two minutes. Thank you for joining us. Good morning. I'm Dr. Susan Riley, and I'm here representing the Board of Friends of the Library. As you are aware, Friends of the Library supplies about roughly $200,000 to the library in order to do evening programming and weekend programming. And what we're particularly concerned about is making sure that people of limited means are able to go to events at the library. In other words, free parking. The library's free. Parking will not probably will not be free. So we would like a system that allows people, and let me give you an example of the classes that I'm real concerned about. English is a second language, which is offered in the evenings. The classes preparing people for the high school equivalency exam, which are offered in the evening. And the senior classes that help people like me work with computers and cell phones, which are also offered in the evening. And last but not least, Saturday morning story hour for two, three, and four year olds. And we would like all two, three, and four year olds in Boca Raton to be able to go to Story Hour. Friends of the Library is a national organization. There are chapters all around the country and we've been trying to contact other chapters to find out how they deal with free parking for classes like the ones that I just mentioned. And what has come up repeatedly is a system where there's a designated area where there are parking area where there are machines that will accept a code on the back of a library card for one hour. After that, the person has to pay that's in that parking space. But, and let's say some people are going to an English as the second language class. Their names would be taken during the class. So there is a way to check and make sure that the people in the, if you've got a list of people whose library cards are being used for parking, you can check and make sure the real people are using those spaces. So I'd like to mention this to you because we're real concerned about it. We would like people to be able to free library, to go to a free library and yet a free class to be able to take a high school equivalent to exam. And that's my presentation. Thank you, Dr. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? Good morning. My name is Nancy Jo Feinberg and I am chair of the library board. And your address please too. Thank you. Pardon me? Your address please. 2624 Northwest 63rd Street in a major concern of the library is that there is free parking available for the patrons. The other concern or the other thing that might mitigate some of that is to build a drive-through window. I attended the the redevelopment open house at the studio We Could Go Monday, which was wonderful and very informative and we talked to both the Developers and the architects and I saw Mayor Singer there and we talked a bit about a drive-through window for the downtown library. That would be extremely helpful to the patrons. Drive-through windows, as I wrote in an email to Mayor Singer, are now being put in many, many libraries around the country. And in fact, the Canyon Branch Library that just opened in Boynton Beach has a drive-through window. To give you some statistical background, which was not in that email, there are about 420 holds on library books per week at the downtown library. Sometimes in season, it's a little bit more. But of those approximately a third of the people will just go and get their books and not spend time in the library. So those drive-in windows would really mitigate some of the parking issues that are really a grave concern to us. It's also tremendously helpful for elderly people, for anybody when it's raining, for people with children. You can drop off books, you can pick up books, you can renew library cards. There will be library business that you can conduct from a drive-through window. So we hope in your wisdom that you will plan for that and plan for Drive accessibility next to that building. Thank you. Okay. Thank you Anyone else wishing to speak miss Borough Good morning. My name is Judy Moral. I live at 1305 Northeast 5th Avenue Boca Raton 3 3 4 3 2 I live close to Meisner so I see what goes on at Meisner because we go there a lot also I liked your presentation about data information and wisdom So we have to remember that the land, the 30 acres, belongs to the city. It belongs to the public. And it's appreciation month. We appreciate your work. And I know the city has good architects and drawers and people. Why doesn't the city make a plan of what they want on the 30 acres that belongs to the public? Why doesn't the city possibly say, okay, 15 acres has to be recreation, has to be tennis, of course, three acres, has to be, look like Central Park in New York, and I'm not from New York, but a lot of people are down here. And so, and I love flowers, don't get me wrong. I have a love and gardenia grafted bushes in my yard. But these three options that Tierra Frisbee has proposed, they give them an out, not to build and not to replace our 10 tennis courts, because option two only has two tennis courts. Option three only has five. Thank goodness for option We love that one. It has eight tennis courts. And but there's no guarantee that we're going to have our tennis downtown, like it's been for 62 years. And Inki Fisher started with only two courts in 1963. She got so many people interested in tennis that worked at City Hall that would go over and play tennis that they kept building more and more tennis courts until we have 10. We're happy with the 10 and could you please conclude it as well. Yes and and the we want to remind the council people and the mayor. We want to remind you that you work for the people, not the developers. So you should mandate and maybe exempt the three acres that both Raton Tennis Center is on. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to make public comment? Thank you for joining. We will continue to think of all of these issues as we consider our high level strategic priorities for this year and for decades to come. We accomplished quite a bit. I have written a bit of a recap. I would like to save that recap for the end of today, and I will add to it the recap for today's work. Does that make sense? And I'll toss it back to you. To continue our dialogue from yesterday, I think we left off somewhere. I think Mr. Mayor, you wanted to start with something and perhaps Ms. Strucker as well. Thank you. I just wanted to mention one thing. It felt we got very in the weeds on the question of size of business. I wanted to mention something for consideration for us, for our economic development, or excuse me, our economic vitality. We've talked about it from time to time, the concept of annexation. I think there is an opportunity this year to explore two particular annexations, one of St. Andrews Country Club on Clint Moore and one of Lilillock. Those have been identified over the years as potential areas. They were not included in the annexation discussion that happened in 2016 with the whole range of neighborhoods. Here's why I suggest these two. St. Andrews Country Club, I think, directionally, and we don't have exact numbers, but it would probably result in about $5 million of annual revenue to the city net revenue. Willock being smaller would probably be in the order of a million, but there are two discrete communities under an annexation if it's involuntary, which these would be, that's a weird term. But we would vote to explore annexation with them. The residents in each community would have to then vote. We'd schedule that, but that's a rather simple process because it's basically a community vote among the residents there. There are synergies there because they're similar to the type of home and quality of home and other things in that corridor. They're discreet enough where it shouldn't be that cumbersome for us to undertake that study and they they're also serviced by existing, they've served well by our existing fire station there, which is actually probably closer than the other two. So I think it's worth considering, this would be the time to do it. I know it is a modicum more work for staff, and I'm very reluctant to put new things on the table, but given the incremental revenue that could be gained from a modest investment of time and potential vote, I thought there was a good ROI. And continually we're hearing that the county, and they were closely doing it in 2022 or 2023, might change their laws that would no longer make annexation a feasible undertaking for those residents. They would have a net benefit by coming in the city because our fire fee being a fixed fee is lower than the ad valour and fire fee that the county charges. So I think we have an opportunity to sell it, not only is it cost savings more importantly, I think the high quality of bulk of our own services that they would get to. So I wanted to see if there was an appetite at least staff explore that and perhaps get that scheduled for potential vote later this year where the revenues would then start to flow in 2026. That's it. No other projects, just like two one-offs. Do we want to open that up for a comment? Are we? Mr. Wigder, then Ms. Nacklis. No, we'll dois. The topic of annexation is one that I think we talk about and we hear about. Obviously I know Palm Beach Gardens got voted down there. I had like a six, you know, six sector annexation recently because they weren't able to sell it. Generally speaking, I'm okay looking into it and I guess my understanding which is limited with respect to annexation is that they do have to be contiguous properties to the existing boundaries. In that respect, I would also say if we're gonna look look into that, then we should look into an X-ing the golf course of the city owns into the city, which would include Costco. Because there is at least my understanding and appreciation, and things that I've personally witnessed is that there's a service gap where you have like PD and FD like not answering calls in this little island of Boko Country Club and of course the you know the easy thing when I went to visit the golf course and talk to the people and I know it's since been you know rectified but when we go seek a permit on our own golf course, of course we have to go to the county which includes to cut the trees or redo the buildings or whatever so you know I see a kind of service mismatch there and my understanding is anecdotally that there's been some 9-1-1 like who's the person who's supposed to answer the call in this little region thing. So, you know, there's an optimization opportunities. If we're going to look into it, I would look into, you know, the full Northern sector annexation possibilities, and that's just those two communities. Thank you, Ms. Nackles. Thank you. Yes, I'd be willing to have staff look into that. Has there been any discussion from residents in those two neighborhoods that has prompted this? Thank you. I have yet to, I was not clear in stating that. I did have a conversation with some of the residents of Simeon and his country of club. I spoke with the current president of the board who's been there for five weeks. He was open to exploring it further. I've spoken with people at LaLocke years ago. I LaLoc is 24 homes so those conversations can be very in person. And just to answer Mr. Riggler, I think that point is, you know, I appreciate your point there. I was more intentional about those choices just knowing that their club structure and the number of homes in LaLoc, I think makes the vote a little easier to consider. And I think the economics were more compelling for those areas than the one you suggested. But this is a discussion. So I'm talking too much. I answer your question. No, yes, thank you for answering, but yes, I'm open to letting staff look into that. Thank you. Mr. Thompson, Mr. Drucker, any thoughts? I'm happy to have him look into St. Andrews that's been on the menu, but that's been a point of discussion for many years, little act as well. I guess it begs a question. Mr. Thompson, Mr. Dr. Ernie Thoughts? I'm happy to have him look into St. Andrews. That's been on the, I don't say many of you, but that's been a point of discussion for many years. The lack as well. I guess the basic question would about field brokerages in between. It would be maybe a little bit of an island, but that isn't, I think as necessary, but I think it's worth exploring. The Costco idea is, I think, a little bit more complicated economically because of the cost of providing the services in the area we would be necessary for us to take. And we have had discussions going back many years with residents of that community about potential annexation but it's a much tougher call in my view. But if it's you know if we're going to be having staff look at potential annexation no harm in having them look at this and see what the numbers are with some degree of certainty as to what Costco plus Boca Country Club would yield us and what we would be providing in terms of services. I think the stronger candidates would be St Andrews Lillac and perhaps he'll Mr. Walker. I agree with Mr. Thompson. I would look at Field Road right because I wonder if it's World Park Hollow in right across the street. Oh, sorry. It's right across the street. That's kind of continuous. It would go kind of continuous. A lot of people always say they're really low in poker. We're not in poker. So, and the apartments that are right by that gas station are our part of the city of Boca Raton. So that makes a continuous row. There is data out there that I had asked from our former city manager on Costco and the Boca Country Club. And there were some economics there that were interesting because of the way that it's positioned. But if we're gonna look at all the areas, we can look at all of them together. And then we can make decisions, of course, reaching out to county and community as well to make sure there's an appetite because I agree with Mr. Wigder. Every time you hear annexation, there's a lot of pushback from residents and just in general from other entities and areas. So. And thank you. And I'll tell you Mr. Brown, a second. I just wanted to, you're probably going to give it. I want to give it a history. We explored this back in 2016. It did not go very far. There were, because it's not just field work, there's Bonnie Yellow Acres, which is a zoned agricultural community. And those residents being in the right in the middle, we weren't looking at St. Adres, and we're looking at field book in the neighboring property. There's three North-South narrow slivers. It didn't go far because Bonnay Yellow Acres was not on board, and that kind of slowed the other efforts. So I was thinking, don't start there again, and I was looking at the other two. We could always come back, but I wanted to start with the lower hanging fruit or the higher all-eye fruit. That's where I was looking, Mr. Brown. Just by way of additional background. We would be able to annex, Lilac and St Andrews without touching Field Brook, Baniello because they would still be continuous to the county. It would not create an enclave. It's important to remember too that we can do the analysis of Country Club and Costco. The past analyses show that it was not financially advantageous to the city to undertake that. It was a significant cost to provide service versus the revenues coming in. It would have to be a separate election. It would not be an election coordinated with the other because there are two separate and distinct areas being annexed. They'd have to be a separate separate elections, which we've had in the past. And the annexations that we've done in the past have always been on a financially positive basis, well, to the city and to the area being annexed. And that's been what we've really sought to do before. So it sounds like there's consensus to study this. So what I would suggest is we study this and we can then get a better idea than consider whether we can also talk to our potential friends and neighbors in those communities and see where it goes and then consider whether we schedule an election. And again, that's just one in that community. It's not a citywide election. It's just community by community. Mr. Kailer. Yes, actually under Fl Flourlots it's called a dual referendum. So it's a vote of both people in the area that we want to annex and and with their own city. If we choose to have the city voters vote. It's not required. It's voluntary. It's a just we can decide whether or not to let the city voters say yes, proceed with an annexation. And then those in the area to be annexed, that has to happen in order for it to occur. I appreciate the manager for that clarification. Either way, there's a strict dash to a process that would follow and we would of course follow that process. Right. The first step would be the council would have to then say we want to go out, you know, want us in the vote to the residents in each area. Yes. And we would need to, I have to have the city clerk contact the supervisor of elections to find out about when they would need to know if we are seeking to do this in November in order for the annexation to occur on December 31st, which is a normal process. Okay. Very good. Right. Well, if we're consensus to have staff explore, we can do that. And again, I'm only suggesting it because it's a high ROI and a low amount of staff time. So, that's where I'm trying to get the bank for the buck. That's all I had. Mayor, if I may, just ask for clarification. Are we studying all of the different neighborhoods that were mentioned in the conversation? So I have St. Andrews, LaLac, Boca Country Club, which would include Costco, Field Brook, and then Bonnie Yellow acres. No, no. Bonnie Yellow, I would say leave out, because I think they want to keep their horses and other animals. We don't allow our exoning. That's where it fell apart. Understood I that's why I wasn't going for fieldbrook now. I would personally I would start with the first two I think that's where you get the biggest ROI and we can see how that works but it's a joint discussion and I think Mr. Brown reminded you it wasn't just slightly it was negative the last time with of the country club, that's why we look. So there was previous reports that could be forwarded to me so I could take a look. That would be extremely helpful. Likewise, getting some of the input that I've heard anecdotally from FD and PD on service calls, that would be helpful. And also the cost to do work on the golf course, we're going to spend $30 million on a golf course that's not in the city. That would be helpful to do some real financial analysis there. On what we want to do with the future of golf course that's not in the city. So, yeah, certainly I think it's worth looking into. Mr. Rucker. I think the data could be gathered for that area that Mr. Riger is referring to,, I think, to get current data because everything's changed. When I asked for that data, we did that in 2021. So things have changed, so maybe we have to look at that. They might even be worse now. I don't know, but I think it's, if we're taking the opportunity to do synandrosinally lack, we should definitely look at that because we do have investment there with the golf course and there is budget going from taxpayer dollars that are going there So I think people will ask why not us because they often ask that so I think we should be prepared with that data and be proactive Just right just in terms of the staff time that would be involved in the in updating the analysis the model is available We have run these numbers many times even in between just to see where things were. So we'll be able to update the information fairly rapidly and provide a report. Thank you. All right. That sounds like a plan. Thank you all. Right. Okay. Are there, I think you wanted to add some things or you added? I wanted to do it at the end because I think a lot of I went back and looked at some of the stuff again from our growth management, quality of life and transit and mobility. A lot of the suggestions that I have might be answered today or might just be things that are going to be embedded in some of the discussion that we'll have today and that we start it yesterday. So I would prefer to hear that so that I don't like, just speak out of turn. I want to see what the vision is of staff first, and what we're going to be able to do and not do before I put in the ideas that I'm going to bring to the table. I think that's going to be beneficial for time and for just being high level vision. Sure. Okay. Next slide, please. So I've already talked about this. We talked about it yesterday. I just want to remind everybody and for the benefit of the community who may be checking in for the first time. I want to remind everyone that the key expectations for our discussion today are big picture thinking. We should focus on outcomes. What are we looking to achieve? What's the target where are we going to be in 10 years? Community-centered priorities. So again, discussions that reflect community needs, long-term sustainability, collaboration and consensus building, you know, a respectful debate on different ideas. And perhaps differences in perspective. I know from our conversations with each of you council members separately that I know your perspectives but I don't think your colleagues know your perspectives and certainly not in the depth necessary to make some of these 20-year decisions. So I'd like to encourage respectful debate and solution-oriented discussions among all of you. So with that, we will We will continue our strategy focus and again for the benefit of the community an Alchem oriented strategy focuses on results Not just actions it helps to identify what you Would like to see in ten years 20 years 25 years, so your intentions become action a ball. So we're able to port forward to 2050 and all of us are, standing at the corner of Palmetto Park Road and US one in 2050 and we're looking around and we're going, we nailed it, we got this, those decisions we made 25 years ago, this is what we intended, this is what we actually visualized in 2025. So that's what your outcome oriented strategy will do for you. It actually saves money in the long run. It's cheaper to have this kind of a strategy where it's outcome oriented, where we look into the future and we create those targets. So that the talented and dedicated hardworking staff that you have can shoot for those things. So I thought of a new question to just throw out as we consider where we're going. So here's the new question. So imagine it's 2040, and there's a newspaper headline, because we're not actually going to read the entire article. It's just the headline, right? That's what we do. So this headline that you see, it's all over social media, it's all over whatever the latest and greatest tech is that you're seeing on your, that we can't get rid of. That's what Mr. Wiggard did yesterday, right? We're seeing it on our phones and we can't, we can't not do without it. So how is the newspaper highlights, how the leadership of today help the staff achieve these big outcomes? What's it going to say? What's the headline? Think about that as we move forward. So that's my new question of the day to help us move forward. These are the city's seven strategic focus areas, not because we came up with them, but because this is what we developed with you last year. Yesterday we went through community safety, we talked about world-class services, we talked about financially sound and vibrant economy. Today we will talk about growth management, we will talk about transportation and mobility and quality of life. So to get us started, I will turn it over to Mr. Shad and we could pull up. Anybody know where the clicker is? Thanks, Zach. If we could pull up the growth management. We have a lot going on here on this growth management SFA. So think about what we're targeting, what you want it to look like, where we're going with it. I got one. Zach had one. All right, so we're talking about growth management and quality of life, so we'll go to growth management first. So first of all, this is the team that helped with both of these focus areas. Excellent team. I think we talked about a lot of great ideas and here we go. So on growth management, our goals and objectives, as you can see, to provide an enhanced quality of life for our residents while fostering economic growth opportunities for commercial and industrial development. And efforts including promoting mixed-use development and proving walk with infrastructure upgrades and street trees and expanding affordable and workforce housing. So we have five accomplishments up here. We struggle a little bit to decide which of the many accomplishments we should include on the slide, but I think these are highly related to what we're trying to accomplish strategically. Obviously the the government helped us master plan the progress we made so far. And ordinance-reducing parking requirements for medical uses, I think that relates to economic development and additionally sustainability. We adopted an ordinance as you know, streamlining the CAB, the Community Appearance Board's role in the development review process. I think it's been very successful as the mayor mentioned. This morning, we worked with the development community to finalize the restrictive covenant for the affordable housing developments. Seems like a wonky kind of thing, but it's actually very important. And it was a lot of work to get that done. And our complaint and code amendments for the Transit Oriented Development and the Dry Row Station. Our challenges, as you can see, are anticipating future needs while we're developing built spaces. I emphasize to my staff all the time that when someone builds a large building, a major development, it's going to be there for a really long time. So people are gonna be living with our decisions and decades hence, so that's why we put so much time and thought into those things. So we're trying to figure out what's gonna be needed in the future and we do our best. And current development patterns constrain the advancement of multimodal mobility. Obviously, our city, like almost all the South Florida was built in the age of the automobile. Retrofitting is a challenge. We're not the only ones handling that challenge, but it does nevertheless a challenge that we face every day. So a couple of questions for thought. Again, emphasizing the future oriented, the perspective of 2035 and further on the 2050. So what makes part of the city appropriate for growth and change, and what makes part of the city appropriate to preserve and enhance and not look to for wholesale change? And additionally, when we talk about policy, I always say it's about making trade-offs. The easy choices we've already made, the ones we're talking about are always going to be a trade-off. You're always giving up something to get something. So I think it's a pertinent question for where we are in our policy making setting here. Are we willing to trade some of the convenience for driving an abundant parking for the benefits of walkability and multimodal mobility? Interesting questions that I think we should engage on. Thoughts? Council members. Mr. Rucker. Thank you, Mr. Shad. What makes Portion of the City appropriate if you go down the list? I mean, obviously the Brightlands there. We know that we're trying to add a second platform. We know that there have been changes already to the inside of the other Brightlands station. And just of the day before they announced further stops. So they're going to be announcing further stops in the city of Boca, which sometimes they pass over. And there's also a new pass, kind of like the commuter pass, but a robust commuter pass, it's a lot less expensive for the consumer. So I think the station will continue to improve and I think it's very exciting to have that there. And it's important because of the proximity to obviously government center and to Myzner into the redevelopment of Palmetto Park Road. So that part, that's why that downtown area is such an incredible area to redevelop because there's so much potential there to connect it. I really need to trade us some convenience of driving an abundant yes, yes, and yes. In order for us to get, and I say that when I said I was going to be bold and then disrupt her, in order for us to get to what we want to see a vibrant downtown, we will have to do this. We will have to reduce parking. We will have to have less people in cars. Doesn't mean that we're going to be car less, but we will have areas where you'll have to force that upon the footprint. It's just part of the change. And whether that's by removing parking spots, by lane closures, by reduction of speed limits, those are the things that have to happen. And I've said on the day is many, many times before when we have people come in and especially our residents asking for some of these things, we will have to go through some of that painful experience. It happens. And then the mindset changes and then you start doing that, right? And I always use the analogy of like writing trial or writing bright line. Two or three years ago, we didn't have either. I never got on the train. Well now we all get on the train. I never wrote the bike. A couple years ago, I started writing my bike again. Now I ride bike. It's a mindset. It's how do you get from A to Z in terms of the options that you have? So for me, my vision is very, very bold. We will have to make very hard decisions and changes in order to get that vibrancy that we want in the downtown. And if you look throughout the state, whether it's Tampa, whether it's Orlando, whether it's Fort Lauderdale, Miami, West Palm Beach, we want to be Boka, but in order to have even just a little bit of what that looks like, which are vibrant downtowns, which we keep talking about, we're going to have to all agree on this kind of ideology. It's going to be really, really important. And I agree with Mr. Beer and keeping our charm of what Boca Raton is Boca Raton. But we also have to make changes that are going to be very different in order to accomplish that. That's a great place to start. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Cricker. I agree with a lot of that. In thinking about all of this yesterday and all the comments that were said yesterday and hearing from staff, some, you know, we're going into this. Mr. Thompson said it yesterday and we all kind of said it, you know, we can always be better. And good, better boca should not just be a slogan of boca, it should be at something we actually do and live and keep striving for. So I'm gonna go through these questions too. And I'm kinda looking at more of the whole city than just the downtown. So what portion of the city is appropriate for growth and change, the infrastructure has to be there or work can be there. Close to major corridors, transit, and of course places for people to work. And there's opportunities for mixed use development that supports the live work play, learn environment that we're always touting, and that it's aligned with our city goals like the range of housing, options, economic development, of course, sustainability. We also want to make sure that we do not negatively impact the existing neighborhoods. So, and then are we willing to train some of the convenience of driving in abundant parking? I agree with Ms. Drucker. There's changing behavior is not easy, but it's often worth it. And so I think it is appropriate to talk about having a balanced approach and trying not to eliminate convenience but trying to add options. So easier ways for people to get around on different multimodal options, different transit options. And people would like to walk if it's convenient and if it's safe. So I think we need to definitely include that. And it's hard to fix traffic, but if we can reduce some of the dependency on our cars in some instances, not all instances, because I, for one, I know I'm not giving up my car yet, but I think that that's a way that we're going to ease a future congestion challenges. So, that's all. I have to say about that. Man, I just asked a question before. So, you started with, I agree with a lot of what Ms. Drucker said. What don't you agree with? I agree with most of what she said. She's a little more, she's a little more, but like I am definitely not ready to give up my car. She's gotten me into, as I've been on council, my behavior also said changing behavior is not easy. Before I went on council, obviously, I'd never taken the bright line. And I had taken Tri-Rail, but it was not a behavior that I did just automatically. Now automatically, when I'm going somewhere, that Tri-Rail will get me to, two and a two and a half years into being on council, I'm on Tri-Rail. So she's a little further than I am with some of the transportation things, but I am buying into it. So I think what I hear you saying is that as using yourself as an example, as you've started to do something different than you did before, you've shifted and now, using tribal policy example, that's your go-to versus, well, let me drive and then you think, you know, your go-to now is, let's see, we take the train. Right, right. Did I get that right? The second question though, are we willing to trade some of the convenience? Some people want. Some people are very set in their ways and we have to understand that their behavior is not going to change or is not going to be easily changed. And people are afraid of loss. So I also started out with we have to, rather than loss, we have to give other options. And you know, if you just take away, that's not going to work. You have to give other options. OK. And that's your, you use the term balanced approach. And that's what you meant by that. Yes. OK. Just a break there. Yeah. You know, this morning, when the mayor spoke at the Chamber of Breakfast, one of the things that sticks out to me that relate to this is that obviously we all know that we're a city of 100,000 residents, but during many days we have 250,000 people that work here. Obviously, some basic math is that a lot of people coming to work here don't live here. And that means that some of the problems that we talk about in terms of growth management and traffic management and how they're related are regional problems. And I think Mr. Tucker or Mr. times and touched on yesterday on those regional partners. Obviously the TPA and I Park now, or it was maybe Zach talked about I Park. And now we write the county approved this master plan, this master comprehensive plan. And the city's going to be participating in that. So you know, then going back to the partnerships, if you think on the macro level, our partnership with our region is going to be critical in managing our growth and change because it's not something that we're going to be able to solve within. We will never be a city of 250,000 people where all the people can just live and work here, right? We're going to be a city that participates regionally so that's important. And then pursuance of the conversation that we just had, apropos, about annexation, right? The city is the size that it is right now due to numerous previous annexations uh... and of course that has some disparate zoning right we have the downtown zoning and i'll just for the sake of simplicity call it old uh... we have the uh... then we have the annexed zoning admit town which is like some sort of promulgated zoning right we took the county zoning and turned it to, you know, and converted to ours. And then what we have been doing in Lurp and Brick and with the plan mobility zone and kind of, and the CIMD where we've had this opportunity to really shape this northern sector and I kind of see this as a location. I wish we had a picture of the map of the city here would be great to look at because I look at it every day and the idea is the space where we can have some of that growth to Miss Nocklis' point of some mixed use isn't that northern sector, right? And so they're reestablishing the CIMD took place of the PM, but perhaps reestablishing the PM and really trying to turn that to Miss Drucker's point, turn our plan mobility zone into more places. And I know Brandon, you touched touched on it would allow those opportunities and allow ownership opportunities, right? Because a lot of private sector people have approached us saying, well, this is great, the CMD is great, but some people want to own houses or condominiums too. And right now with the structure that we have, it's quite difficult. So giving people the opportunity to have some fore ownership product in the northern sector where their space is I think, you know, as I think one way we can look at it or if doing those expanded plan mobility zones or expanded transit oriented districts. I don't know if you recall this, Mr. Shad, but we were in, was it like the affordable housing committee meeting of like six months ago or something like that? And you were the one who kind of opened my eyes and you said, well, a transit oriented district doesn't need to be a train. It could be PalmTran. And so why not? So why couldn't federal highway be a transit oriented district? And why couldn't Congress have any, be a transit oriented district? It won't be a train, but it will be a system of mass transit that can develop around that. So I think getting creative and bold about where we have room for growth and how we connect regionally is going to be critical to the future of our planning in 2035 and 2050. As for downtown, yeah, I agree with Ms. Strucker, the downtown, I guess downtown by definition, we've said this, the word downtown means it's supposed to be a more dense, vibrant, activated, mixed, used district. I've talked about this. When we want to get bold about this, we can't have a suburban parking warden in downtown that has parking minimums. We should have parking maximums right we should say hey listen if you're moving downtown you're moving downtown because you are getting rid of your car you are embracing this opportunity. Someday I'd like to embrace that opportunity too but I'm not quite there yet and using my family. But the point is once we do that with this new development that we're looking at, it should not be that there's a minimum of 1.75 parking spaces per unit, right? Because that's inviting traffic. It should be one parking space per unit, right? So we're eliminating that traffic. And then likewise giving, you know, giving appropriate credit for internal recapture, right? In a downtown people are supposed to walk. Even SB 1730, if you start reading into that, even SB 1730, although I don't agree 100% with everything it it goes into it does start the idea of giving credit for mixed use mixed uses that are not on the site plan right every site right? We're a city that's built out right everything bokeh is bokeh 2.0 So giving credit to adjacent uses to that existing use is gonna It's going to appreciate that not every site needs to be parked just by itself. Some people want to walk, even on Congress Avenue, they want to walk next door and just get a cup of coffee or on brick or something like that. So starting to get that mindset that we don't need to plan parking for suburban growth because we are, you know, that's the Jeff Specks point, right? We are planning to create more cars. We can also plan to limit the number of cars by being a little innovative on that too. So, you know, there's some opportunities there and some trade-offs, as you said. I think in the right districts, you have to get a little bit more intense on the restriction and in the right districts giving some more creative and regional approaches. I think we're going to have to have a balance of both in a city this big. So here's what I got out of that. Limit cars in the downtown area where it's more dense and should be more dense and in areas away from the downtown such as Lur and Brick, create different options, but they could still drive. Exactly. Got it. Mr. Thompson. What makes a portion of the city appropriate for growth and change, I think that is a function of a lot of things, but it includes market conditions and changing market forces. I think APOC, the Parker-Broken Sounds, I get an example of that, where you had light industrial and we realized many years ago that this was more suitable for more of a live work play environment, which is what we have now. And so that is probably the most significant, large scale change that has taken place in our city in the last 15 or so years. And I think that's a a positive one, because it's made its own self-sufficient part of the town as opposed to just strictly supplaser when people come and work. What makes it appropriate to preserve and enhance, I think that's to a function of history and the health of that area. I'm less keen on seeing a portion of our, you know, some of our single family neighborhoods and saying we need to, we need to grow this and change this. I think those are very healthy components of our city that are at less in need of pressure, less in need of growth and change and more in need of preservation and enhancement. On the second quote, the third question I guess, the trade-offs? Yes, in my view, to a point. The city is pretty large geographically. Just east-west, I think the widest point is about five miles, something in that range. And so that's very difficult to access all parts of the city without a car. And that's just the reality. Not only is my family not giving up our cars, my wife just got a Jeep. She's not giving up that car. It makes me more likely to give up her spouse than she would be to give up that Jeep. And I remember this situation, this conversation came up a few years ago when we were talking about the wildflower park. There were some, including some of the neighbors who's adamantly wanted no parking there. And I took a lot of heat for saying, I hear you, and I recognize we need to have a wonderful park there. But this is something that it's going to be paid for by our entire city, including the people who live five miles west and can't get there and access it realistically if there's no parking there. And I still, I took a lot of heat from a lot of very angry neighbors about that issue. But I ended up putting having some parking there, perhaps it was too much, but we had some, which made it accessible to everybody. Accessible to young families out west who would never otherwise be able to go there if there wasn't some access to parking. So I tell you that is a way of kind of illuminating my view on that second third, sorry, question. Yes, can we make things more walkable and strive for the benefits of multimodal mobility? Yes. Is it to the point where we can eliminate parking or reduce it to the point where there's functionally none? I'm not sure we're at that point yet. I'm not sure I'm at that point yet. But that said, there are absolutely ways where we can strive to make things more walkable and more easy on the pedestrian bicyclists, wheelchair, experience than what we have now. And we should do that, but not necessarily to the point of eliminating parking, even in a downtown which admittedly is more dense. But our downtown area is not just for the folks who live there, you guys will know that. It's also an attraction for people who are coming there for business reasons or for retail reasons. And we want to make sure that everybody in the city has access to that, at least to a point, at least with some amount of parking there. That's how I see it. So to summarize I think what I hear you saying is that the changes made in the APOC area were successful perhaps that's a model that could be used elsewhere Did I get that right? So that's something to think about. And then the other thing I think I understood was parking should be limited to downtown, in the downtown area where it's perhaps more dense, but a priority is to continue to make it accessible for people who can't get there by walking from wherever they're coming from. Did I get that right? More or less, I'm willing to accept some reduction in parking downtown given that it's intended to be a dense area, but it still needs to have some parking because it needs to be accessible for everybody. Okay. Go ahead. Well, let me jump in. I haven't spoken yet. I think there's more consensus. These are continuum questions, and I appreciate Ms. Naclas acknowledging that Ms. Drucker is probably on the boulder side of some of these ideas. I would agree that she's on the boulder idea of where I am on these policy ideas, but I think we can find some harmony. And let me try to harmonize. The first two questions, I would reframe them a little because preserve and change are, it's a false dichotomy. There are changes inevitable in every part of the city. And I'm thinking back to the fact that we're 100 years old. The homes that are still existing from 1926 have changed that the homes may look the same, but there are changes within them and around them. For example, there are sewers, there are orange before, there are different roadways where there were and before. There's a whole range of things, there's air conditioning for there wasn't before, they have upgraded the homes themselves. So I think it comes out to a SWOT analysis when you look at what portions to address strengths weaknesses, opportunities, threats. And I think we've done a better job of identifying opportunities. Where we are now, we realized, I think, planning generally realized that suburban sprawl did not work. And even today, I live in a planned unit development, a PUD, where we're all in the gated community, we're all inside the gate, and I've got no commercial uses outside. Frankly, wish I had a commercial use inside. So I wouldn't have to get on the car or, you know, because I'm more than a mile from my house where it's situated to the main gate. So you know, if I want to bike there or walk there, that's hard. And I still got to go the other mile to publics, for example. So, you know, those are planning things we've learned. We've done well here by putting a mix of uses in this LIRP. Downtown is reflective of that. And so I think we see individual opportunities. I'd say, look at those things. What grows and change? The market trends predict where change is. you see where can we attract jobs, reduce vehicle miles, create vibrancy. Our desire to go forward on Jeffrey Street is recognizing a change in the market that Clint Moore has become more of a thoroughfare and it's also a idea of responding to the weakness which was North Federal Highway's lagging that we had to have a special task force, 2007-2008. I say as we're looking at other areas, it's also what do you do for the trends? Like, you know, if Jevres Street opens, you've got single-family neighborhoods, which thankfully we don't have any really weak neighborhoods in our city, but some people use derisive terms for the area along Dixie, between Dix and Federal there I won't But I think you have opportunity to encourage eventual reinvestment there From homes built in the 1950s and it may look to be more strategic about where we put different mixes of uses Residents tried this in 2017-18 when they wanted to do this along the Dixie quarter and they formed their own nonprofit, and they did their own charettes, and the residence fence, and that was pretty good with what it is. But that was an opportunity for us to look at it. So it's a continuum, but I think we've done a good job of identifying what Sherry's make more sense. I agree with Mr. Thompson, I think all my colleagues, as I saw, is Drucker nodding no? We got a lot of single family head neighborhoods that date back from the 1920s to the 1960s, mostly east of 95. I think those are less ripe for change. I think people have been there and they've functioned and they're close enough to other uses. So you don't need a supermarket on Southwest 14th Street when you have one on Pomodover Road. And I think people, so those aren't ripe for change. don't think we need to look at there, but it's not one size fits all. It's strategic opportunities. Second question. Yeah, and I again, I admit I'm probably less willing to trade, but it's not really so much a trade. I think business is focuses. There is some tradeoff. I think the points about areas where people are intentional about having less parking within them makes sense. I know what the trend is. I think we all know what the trend is in terms of downtown parking. So I'd be in Medieval 2 for looking at our downtown on our city campus, reducing slightly the parking. There's still going to need some parking need for the residents. There's still going to be a bunch of need for people who want to come to this is a destination for all. I think it's important to distinguish within that site and maybe so the ancillary streets then it is pelotal park road I continue to have great concerns with the idea of being advanced by some residents and developers to take out lanes on the only range line to A1A road in our city of pelotal park road I think we're solving for the wrong thing. If we want to create more walkability on that five block stretch, first look at the entire stretch, and then you can do what we've talked about yesterday. Shrinking the lane size, lowering the speed limit, better enforcement, expanding the median, but you don't have to take away the laneage because we understand that that creates a public safety concern On a daily basis and then for times of storm and we also recognize that we're plopped down in the middle of South Florida With still an older and more affluent population will be less eager to give up their cars So I think it makes sense you still look at not taking lanes out of Palmetto Park road on that stretch Maybe shrinking it, but still recognize it's got a server-boughterorder purpose. North of Palmeau for reimagining your campus. Yeah, maybe we shrink those lanes. Maybe you've discouraged that area. Maybe you slow the traffic there. So you've got connections from city point you know city destination to city destination, but microcosms can stand on their own. Eventually I think if we're very successful at Park of Commerce and more residents has come up, there will be other circulators and other Reminds the transportation that come up and it's finally recognizing ongoing trends People will be probably driving less. We will in 20 to 35 years have more driverless cars There is the concept that people not own cars that they will be part of these rideshare lease services But things move slowly back to the future two came out in 1989. It was set in 2015. It had a vision full of flying cars. We haven't seen one yet. We're not likely to. So it's knowing things take some time, but I think if you're strategic and intentional about particular areas and setting the stage, you can accomplish these goals, recognizing that no matter what, we're still in the high 90s of percent of trips that are by car, that even if we had very aggressive and costly efforts, you're still over that 90% range, that's understanding that we can't control, we still have businesses that are going to come in, so the strategic and targeted about areas, but still understand we're not evaporating a car controlled society yet. So I have a question. You first. Here's a question. What if the trend show we mentioned gen alpha yesterday, which by the way gen alpha is the group of people born entirely in this century. So they are the group of people who were born after 2000. After...yeah. Yeah, 2000. So they were born in 2001 or forward. They are part of gen A, or gen alpha. That's what they're called. And yes, beta will be next, and I joke to my colleagues that they're just a test generation. So what if the trend, this is my point. What if the trend show, what if there's some market analysis that show that Gen Alpha doesn't want to drive it all? One, I think that hypothetical is a very hypothetical, hypothetical, but I would say that we will still have whole proceeding generations that will be driving and will because of convenience, habit, wealth, ability, so on, it will retain their cars and we have to, you're never going to turn off a spigot and turn on a dime unless cars cease to function as an invention and we're on to JetPacks, another thing the movie's promised and haven't delivered on. So it's again it's about intention. And as we're creating a new area you winnow down but I'm never, I'm not going to be a turn off the speak at guy and I don't think any of us are. And I'm certainly not suggesting that by any stretch. But I am trying to think, you've asked for data, you said trend data. So what if there's something that shows that, you know, the next generation, that they don't want to own anything, they want really small condos and homes and they don't really want a car? And so what options, using Ms. Nockler's words of a balanced approach, what other options are we thinking and considering? And are you as a council willing to address those? So I'll just make a quick comment on the gen alpha. And even though, and I know kids 10 years ago who have told their parents, I'm not getting a driver's license, I'm never going to have to drive. That was 10 years ago and now, you know, they're finishing college. So even though I think that that is true, there's a whole generation of kids that are now adults, that never intended to be driving. I mean, we're just not at that point yet, like the mayor said. But even when we get to that point, there's still going to be some type of transportation on the roads. There's going to be autonomous vehicles. There's going to be the shuttles. There's going to be, we have to provide a way to get around get around safely. And then your next point was, oh, as far as options, one thing I can point out in the government campus, redevelopment, you know, proposed plan that we've all seen photos of, there's an area on the northern side that has some garden apartments and there's a lot of surface parking there. But they've talked about there may come a day that we don't need that surface parking. And so they're leaving it like that to maybe one day be able to provide something else that we do need. So I think staff has thought ahead with that, the proposers have thought ahead with that, so it's just taking that, what if, what's next, and it is a crystal ball again, but at least we can see someone into the future. All right, so here we go. So I thought I was gonna be a disruptor. So I didn't get to a pine on this area, or like we are calling like the Midtown, because I just saw the Brightline station and I automatically thought of the downtown. Obviously there are pockets. I live in a community that's gated like the mayor and I have to get in my car, but I get in my car and I drive to the trial and I take the trial other places. It's a mindset, maybe I'm a little bit more visionary than people on the council right now in terms of what I know. What I do know is that a lot of kids are not getting the driver's license. They don't want to be the driver's license. They don't want to study in Florida. They want to go to big cities. They want to be able to get around. I have two of those kids that One still loads with me and one is in University of Maryland. And I don't think she'll ever come back to Booker or tell her for numerous reasons, but one being that she just loves it there and she gets around. And by the way, the cold did not bother her one bit and they had one of the harshest summers. I mean, winter's there. What I will say is in this area, and that was one of the things that I said will come up eventually based on what I I wanted to say yesterday was, as we get ready, and I agree with Mr. Thompson on APOC, what that looked like this area is never going to be completely car-centric just because of the way the sprawl has already been created. But we as a city and this will be for future councils obviously we should be proactive on how we're looking at this area. We spent a lot of time now fixing the problems of the downtown. And I think a study in this area, Mr. Anjazan in the audience today, but I think he mentioned this a few meetings ago, where we're not really looking how to connect this entire area that is growing very rapidly with the TOD that's being added to trial rail, with the buildings that are coming up, with the changes to the PMD, to the CIMD, to brick, which which has incredible plans coming I think that's one of the takeaways that we should start looking at this area how we're going to connect and how we're going to keep it safe because that that way we'll play on the offense. So the mayor's point says that you know we kind of don't move fast enough we move slowly there's noy-Ratone, except that we keep saying Bogey-Ratone, you know, the weather, et cetera. People can walk, listen. I was just in Miami-Dade County and people are walking there and it's as hot as here. The weather in Miami is the same as in Palm Beach and they've created incredible walkability areas there. Just the same as in Orlando, Jacksonville, Tampa, Naples, coconut grove that I keep going back to. Those are all areas that are in Florida that are hot and people are creating pockets that are walkable. I do agree with the council members in terms of that there's certain areas that are going more walkable than not. But I can tell you and I can sit here and I will say it and I have about 17 months left on this day is that if we do not reduce parking in the downtown and we do not make really hard changes, you will never get the vibrancy that you've been wanting in the downtown. I agree there has to be parking spots like any downtown. I went to West Palm on Tuesday we all did. Some of you parked in different areas. I strategically parked far because I like to kind of walk and see what other things are coming about. If we are not ready to make those changes, we're never going to get what we see in the walkability. We could have Jeff Speck, we could have Alta Planting, we could have Jill Penalosa, we could have anybody and everybody. But if we don't make those decisions, we are never going to want the downtown that we want. It will continue to be the same downtown that's there today. So again, I'm not saying we need to reduce cars completely. Obviously, we still need cars to get around the city, get around the state, just the way that we are. But in the downtown, we as a council have to have a real good chat with ourselves and with each other as to how we're going to make big significant changes to create that economic driver that you've been looking for. And if you continue to be like, yes, maybe we do this and maybe we do that, you're not going to get there. I can promise you you're not going to get there because if you are speaking to the leaders that are in this pocket whether it's innovation technology, economic driver, transportation, housing, that has to happen. I have had those conversations. I take a lot of time out of my everyday life to sit with these stakeholders and see how have you changed your city. Why is Tampa the way it is? Tampa is extremely vibrant. Their downtown is connected. I stayed there for a week. I didn't need a car. I didn't even have a rental car. I walked everywhere. I was able to get to all the restaurants, but they've made incredible changes to their footprint. There are 300,000 lives there, different than here. Then you go back to Coconut grow where they have a lot less lives there in terms of residents and they've been able to do that. So we can't sit here and say we want this vibrant downtown if we are not going to make the vibrant changes and the bold changes to that area of the downtown. I mean I'm gonna stick to that and you're gonna hear me say this every single meaning from here until the last day that I'm on the day. Yes, thank you, Mr. Walker. Well said, I think one of the things that I get from the Jeff Speck kind of camp is that sticks with me is if you plan for cars, you're going to get cars. If you plan for walkability, you're going to get walkability. And how we embrace that is the challenge, right? It's Mr. Thompson's point. It's a big city, right? 30 square miles. I think one of the great strengths of Boka is, and the mayor said it, of course, many times, is that we do have something for everybody in this small city. And so that means we do have this kind of opportunity and still working on it. This dense downtown core that's supposed to be walkable. And we do have traditional suburban single family, like I said, we have our vitamin, you know, PUDs. We have those opportunities. So when we're looking to attract the businesses that want to come here and the corporations, obviously one of the things that, quote, bokeh is selling is, you know, the package, right? You're not just coming here for your office. You're coming here for everything, the quality of life that bokeh has to offer. And that quality of life includes choices, includes choices of housing, choices of apartments, choices of walkability, and choices of traditional suburban living. And so yeah, to Mr. Thompson's point, yeah, I don't think we're just gonna, that's, we're not just gonna escape that. I think with the comprehensive plan and what we are slowly moving towards is just moving things along in certain districts where we can at the place where they're at. And there's one map in our comprehensive plan that has a series of maps at the very end. And one of those maps has planning districts as we've annexed into the city. And so the city is divided into five planning districts. And of course, kind of like the downtown is its own district, the north of the northwest, which is all kind of PUD's own district, right. And we're slowly and eventually creating these 15-minute cities and these hubs in these districts that embrace, let's call it, the strengths or the character of those little nodes and I think we should continue on that path, right? The Office Depot redevelopment that many of us live next to is one of those things, right? It's a more dense mixed-use development now that's going to give a lot of the Western people an opportunity to do a lot of those daily things without driving major, major miles. And to the mayor's point, yeah, it still is a mile just to get out of the gate. But the point is there's an opportunity saying, hey, a lot of those surrounding communities don't need to drive all the way to of myzena park to go have a restaurant meal. Now you can just go to military trail. So you know embracing the strength of each district, I think, is one of the things that we just need to appreciate that that is what it is in a 30-mile city that has different ages and really highlighting those things. And to your point, I think, in the struck of me earlier, it's like we've been spending so much time downtown, whereas maybe there should be a little like, you know, talking about each district, each node saying, Hey, this is the plan for this node. This is the plan for this node and start working on that as well, rather than just right, we're doing a lot of shotgun approach or piecemeal approach. Eventually, you just start looking at saying, hey, for the West, this is the future for the West. And then how they connect together, that's the story, right? Can we get Weimo or Guident or whatnot to do connections in addition to Circuit? Can we get the Gondola? Can we use the O'Rio Trail as a, you know, as a, you know, if these guidance things are so small, can we use the Oreo Trail as literally an intra transport for, you know as a you know these guidance things are so small can we use the a real trail as literally an intra transport for you know for you know driverless vehicles to connect people you know into the city because the true connection between the bright line and the trial rail would be through the a real would be the fastest thing and especially if we can get those underpasses so there's a a lot of opportunity there, and I think we just need to appreciate the different strengths of each sector and keep moving on that. But one last point, if we want to get bold, the question is, we want to get bold. You have a downtown that's surrounded, right? The CRA is surrounded by traditional suburban thing, suburban development. And to the mayor's point, yeah, I don't see eliminating, we can do traffic calming exercises on Palmetto, but it will always be a thoroughfare and emergency response corridor. If we're going to get bold, eventually the idea is, you know, just like Dixie highway crossing over into, you know, crossing over into Deerfield, you know, eventually we're going to have to think more, you know, overpasses or something bypasses. The original downtown plan of the CRA has myzner Boulevard, and I've said this many times, has myzner Boulevard as a bypass. Perhaps the bypass should have been east-west, like Delray Beach has, but eventually we're going to really get pulled. It's to think of some visionary East West bypass to allow the suburban people to continue what they're doing and get around the Stensertgenkwar without, you know, Styphon traffic in there. So, you know, a lot to think about and there's put a lot of opportunities too. For the comments? I'll ask a question because maybe it's not here. I am hearing support for the Council among all of us to consider maybe at different stages reductions in parking for what we're looking for at downtown campus. So maybe the question for staff and it didn't be now is we move forward as you look at the planning and overlay what recommendations, what recommendations do you have for that and how will that factor in? And then how does that affect the other plans? So I also have some further questions for staff. And I don't, I want to just caution us to understand that Mr. Beer has a whole presentation on transportation and mobility. So that's going to be. I wondered what the question out there. I didn't expect it all of the comments. No, no, no, no, no, no, I understand. But as I also ask some questions, I want to be mindful that Mr. Beer has a whole presentation. I don't want to jump the gun. So Mr. Brown. Actually, I had a completely different comment, but to respond to how will we look at reduction in parking in the downtown campus? We'll receive what we receive from them and work through the process with the developer to say, okay, we want to reduce, I don't know what the percentage is. I don't know if it's a percentage, it may be number of spaces depending upon the type of use, et cetera. We would do an analysis, look at what ITE offers today, what the ULI offers today in terms of those kinds of appropriate uses for dense urban core kind of parking, and make sure that I think really it's more of a balancing, you will, the access to the facilities from the outside and where the parking located for those who are coming from somewhere and then how much do we really need based upon the mix of uses? How much shared parking will there really be? How much shared use will there really be? And those are the things that we have to work through with the developer because we receive the next version of the master plan this week and then move forward with looking at it from that point. If I can. Yeah, George. There are things that we put on the table to the developers that would internalize a lot of these trips, including, work office. It connection between the housing that's going to become available for workforce and tying that to occupancy on the site. I think really what we need to be concerned about, downtown is the volume of traffic that we will still need to accommodate that is essentially the visitor, you know, to the downtown because you don't ever want to preclude that but with varying levels of reduction we can take into account those, you know, strategic decisions that we can kind of, I don't want to say force because we're totally cooperating here with a developer. Are they the appear to be interested in doing these things that in the end will make the project better and hopefully internalize as many of these sort of traditional vehicular trips that we have opportunity to reduce now. And that's specifically for the downtown? Well, I think it applies specifically to the government center, but more broadly to the entire downtown and other parts of the city. I mean, I think this just kind of the way we need to look at it. Okay. So, Ms. Varo please. So, so just a broad base question for staff. So we've heard the term balanced approach several, several times. Do you understand what, what is meant by that? I think we do, yes. I'm just going to speak for the rest of staff, but yes, we, we know that we want to encourage mobility, walking, other forms of transportation, transit in particular. How do we work development patterns will encourage that to occur. And at the same time, we have to remember that we're not saying we're not going to have any more cars because people still have to get to town, get into town, get around town depending upon where they're coming from. We have throughout the city, some residential neighborhoods are really fortunate at being right next to the downtown, for example. People can walk from their single-family residence that's not in the downtown, into downtown, in less than 10 minutes and get where they want to go. It may be to get fully into downtown, maybe it's half an hour walk. Is it, isn't 15 minutes supposed to be the maximum that people will tolerate? I don't agree with that myself, but that apparently is the standard. There are other neighborhoods where there's opportunities for that. We don't have things there right now. There really isn't neighborhood serving retail adjacent to the neighborhoods. We have an opportunity to create that and that's something that I wanted to talk about. We'll finish this dialogue first. There are other areas such as where the mayor and Mr. Dr. Roliv really to get to anything you got to get in the car or an Uber or some other form of mobility to get out of the neighborhood to where you want to come. We're not going to take away cars from those folks. I think as we look at redevelopment areas, we'll be trying to balance these needs on each property, and it'll be different every time. There's not going to be a pattern book for this. There's going to be each time it will have to be reviewed, I think. Does that provide an answer, Trina? Yes? OK. I'm just asking questions. I am not making any suggestions for anything. Another question I have is to go back to what something Mr. Wigter said, which is 150,000 people come here to work. Do we have things multimodal considerations for them? Have we thought about that as a consideration? We have several for certain areas right now. The people who are bright-lined to the Immodestation can get on a shuttle to get to their workplaces in this part of town. They also, if they happen to live here and work elsewhere, can do the reverse and get on, try rail to go somewhere. For Brightline in the downtown, we have the option to the Boca Connect for people to get from the Brightline station to wherever in the downtown area they want to connect to. Other areas, I think, as they develop, there is transit available in certain areas, but the palm-trained headways are not really conducive to regular use. It's just the fact that it serves the entire county, and in order for them to serve the entire county economically, they can't have 10-minute headways on Route 1, which is the bus that runs from the Broward line to the Martin County line along Federal Highway. There are opportunities, I think, for us as we redevelop and I'll bring that up when I wanted to talk about. If we encourage enough development, I think we can encourage transit to be available to people for them to connect to other means of mobility, which will allow us to perhaps provide more affordable or attainable housing in these areas that people will not necessarily need to have a car to get to work in city or outside the city. The area I'm talking about, the mayor had mentioned earlier, the fact that we have been finally successful with the strong efforts of Mr. Beer, the mayor, and the rest of the staff in obtaining the approval for the Jeffrey Street connection to Federal Highway. That will be done in early 1927, probably. Everything will be finished. It will be open and ready to go. I will encourage everyone to think about the opportunity that presents for Delray Manners, which is the residential area that this will pass through, and North Federal Highway. We will be, the area of Delray Manners is one of the few generally affordable neighborhoods in the city. I think we want to preserve that and enhance it. Jeffrey Street coming through will open that opportunity, I think, for us to, if assuming there are still federal dollars available, to leverage federal dollars to make improvements in the neighborhood that will make a more attractive neighborhood and reinvest in the housing in the area. Federal Highway, as the mayor mentioned, we studied it in 2006, 2007, 2008 or so. There was a report done about the fact that we should encourage redevelopment of very new kinds. Mr. Kamehau worked very hard on a mix use, the city's fur misuse zoning district for North Federal Highway, that because of market conditions never really came to be. We were a little behind the market kind of ran away from us and they were not the developer was unable to complete the vision. We've had some housing on Federal Highway, but it's not the kind of housing that's really, they weren't next to existing housing. If we're looking at redeveloping the card and we have to be sensitive to the fact that there is single family residential on either side, but it's possible to come up with a vision for that area that appropriately recognizes the existing neighborhoods and their needs, develops potentially affordable housing on the parcels on federal highway, improves the streetscape and encourages neighborhoods serving retail rather than furniture stores, which is pretty much what we have now. I encourage the council and the staff for the future to remember that that Jeffrey Street success is going to be a possibility for future success in that area. It's something we didn't have when we were looking at this in 2006-07. I wasn't even considered. But there are patterns of development that were suggested then that may be appropriate once we make that connection. Then the Jeffrey Street connection is extremely important to accessibility in the north area. I'm done with my speech. Questions for Mr. Brown? Okay. Before we move on from growth management, I'd like to ask just a couple of the staff members to think about it. So as I, as in my head, I can now see sort of a consented vision of what this strategic focus areas outcomes look like. So more multimodal, more connection between the different areas, perhaps an APOC model type area or areas to consider. Few are parking downtown, but cars will always, at least for the near future, 10 years or so be a consideration. There's a possibility of some type of changes to Palmetto Park Road. So I can see this kind of vision and I hope that the staff can too as we've gone through this discussion. My question is, what are the impacts for your specific functional areas? So as I look around, I'm looking at potentially Mr. Stevens. What is the impact on your functional area, so parks and recreation, the different, and you have so many different divisions that you manage? Are there, are there impacts that perhaps you have questions about or that you need to ask about? Stop it really particularly questions. I just think it's, you know, the general overall thought is we're looking at different parts of the city having certain amenities and certain things in those parts of the city where people can access them equally. But there's also recreation always in the city. Historically, we started off a small neighborhood parks where there was one soccer field, one softball field, the playground and what not in different parks of the city. Recreation in the last ten years or so has gone more to the fact where you're building a regional park where you're putting almost all your soccer fields or what not turf rectangles in one location, your baseball fields in one location. So it'll be a balance between making sure in different parts of the city where you have, you know, if we're talking about walkability, but making sure there's playgrounds, there's recreational amenities, with shade and whatnot, in those general areas that people can get to, but also how do we get to the larger, more concentrated areas, you know, that have these other needs as far as the ball fields and that type of thing? Comments from council members on that? Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Siemens. I mean, for me, obviously all the parks are everywhere, but especially the parks that we have close to the downtown and I've brought this up before. Wildflower, we spent a lot of money. I can't remember how much. If you can't even get a water there, there's no activation of the park. So you'll love people to walk and bike and go around and you can't even buy like a soda. I'll go back to the park that I talked about earlier, Peacock Park, down in Coconut Grove. It's a public park, it's a beautiful park. Gorgeous park. Activated day to night. You could have a salad, you could have a drink, you could have a tequila, you could have a coffee, you could bring your kids during the day, you could go out in the evening. It's a beautiful activated space. You could rent parts of the park to have your birthday party for your child. The basketball courts are on the side, on the backside is, you can see the bay, I guess as bis came bay, again activated park. I don't, like for me particularly, I don't have a reason to go to the wildflower park because first of all there's nothing for me to do there. So like if I go to Triedarria would be great. Like I could go have dinner. I could, I love like their shrimp there. And I could walk across and maybe get a coffee and after dinner drink, well that park is dark. There's nobody there. So again, we're not saying what we've walked for vibrancy and truly embracing whether that's outside of the CRA, but that's a whole area there where there's so much potential. So activating parks that can be activated was on my list. I think it's important. Also in parks, myzor park, I don't know if this can be done or not, but I've heard from some of the residents that I guess there's a lot of dogs coming to the park. And there's not an area for the dogs. So in my walks last week and I have pictures that I'll share with Mr. Brown, he could share with staff, I was walking in the downtown of Miami and I saw like this little little park area that was a gate and it's a dog park and basically a little piece of turf and that's where the dogs go and other I guess animals maybe I've seen cats on on leash as well and they they go there that's where they take the dog so what I'm hearing now from the residents of the downtown is all these dogs and then they poop on the thing and then children sit there because they're coming on the weekend so one of my suggestion is how easy is to get I don't cost, I'm just saying, be great if we're adding these water fountains with the doggy water as well, that we have an area in myzer park that the dogs can relieve themselves, that they're not taking these poops in the middle where all the kids are trying to play the golf. And by the way, I get stopped them, this is what I've been told. That was on my lessons as we're talking about parks. I wanted to talk about activating parks, particularly wildflower, and of course, adding some form of a small area for dogs and other, I guess, animals in the downtown, especially as we move forward with the government center. Okay. Thank you. So I'm glad while we touching on parks. And yesterday you showed this slide, the government master plan with how or how are the other things dependent or is the government master plan dependent on the other things. We got kind of off on a tangent. Didn't really finish out this part. So one thing that I really think, campus master plan is dependent on is the recreation master plan and we started talking about the recreation master plan at least I remember last August and this is before we had any unsolicited offers on anything so of course that whole discussion that happened way later changed the recreation master plan discussion however I feel like we really need to nail down the Recreation Master Plan. Because going forward with what's going to happen at the government campus, among other things that we have to figure out space needs analysis and how big is our city hall, the recreation is a big part of this and recreation at least in my discussions with all proposers all the way through was what recreation are we keeping in the downtown. It was important I thought to keep that in the downtown and ultimately we ended up with with a potential partner that does want to do that. But we need to tell them what we want. And I know we had an update on the Recreation Master Plan a couple of weeks ago, but I think we need more. I know we need more. So going forward with where we're going to have more clay quartz or where we're going to have what's going out at North Park? What are we doing there? Even a racket sports master plan because five, six years ago I'm sure there have been around a lot longer. I didn't know what pickleball and padell were. And five, six years from now when we finish our first phase of the government master plan, hopefully before then, there may be three more sports that we don't know and didn't plan for. So I really think that we need to get on this recreation master plan. We need to have it in hand sooner rather than later. And that's what I'd like to see because I think that the campus master plan is dependent on the recreation master plan. Shall we put in our report a suggestion for a workshop for the recreation master plan? We just had an on-workshop recreation master plan. Okay. So I guess we could have one more but sooner rather than later. Okay. Maybe when we have our other workshop that we spoke about yesterday. Okay. Yeah. Um it's a great point Miss Knachles. Thank you. Um in terms of activation, yeah, Mr. Walker, I agree 100%. We were at the bike rodeo at the Hornley Park last week. And of course, in addition to the bike rodeo, there were many, many other things that are normally just going on there. There were the soccer games and whatnot. And the bike rodeo had, I guess, the Kona Ice truck. Kona Ice Food Truck, the Kona cone ice truck as part of the amenities, as part of the bike rodeo thing. And so what I sort of noticed, some people that I know from Woodfield, they were coming with their kids to play soccer and they all wanted to go to the ice truck. And we're kind of like, oh, it's not for you, sorry, it's for the, and they're like, oh you know that's you know and um and of course there's times where the uh there's times where the chick filet truck is there and of course uh it's so utilized, it is so utilized, so in this kind of food truck nation that we're in um you know we had food truck Fridays, downtown or Thursdays or whatever it was, occasionally. But to your point of instructor, I've activated some of these parks. It's not a situation where we need to build a wholesale infrastructure and permanent commercial kitchens. Let the commercial kitchen just roll up. Give the people what they want. Let them buy some water. You know what I've heard from boaters in boaters, boaters, boat ramp for 20 years is we love bokeh boating except we need a nice machine because people who boat need ice to drink, to keep their stuff cold. So like put a nice machine down there and how hard can that be? And it would make a million dollars. You know, because everyone's buying ice before they go on the boat. So, you know, those, like there are some quick fixes that we don't need to do whole scale infrastructure things. We can activate parks with the market that's already providing, which is food trucks and more simple things. Especially when you have massive baseball season and little league season and everyone's there, and same with the soccer and flag football and whatnot. Doing some of those quick activations are certainly possible. And when you have these massive tournaments going on, the coordination, again, it's a business activity and it's providing a need for the community. So I certainly think we could look into that more and be a little bit more generous to do that. People often think about that too near some of the beach, you know, or on the Spanish River Park is what, why can't there ever be a food truck on Spanish River Park while they're going there so they can use these things? And yes, it does mean that we need more trash or sectors of goals and stuff like that. But it's fulfilling a need that the people want, rather than rather than craving for something or making it difficult, right? Because the alternative is, okay, now I have to go drive my whole family to McDonald's or Chick-fil-A or wherever I'm going after the soccer game, which turns out to be a mess. And like I have little kids too, it was always a disaster because they're starving and crying and the whole thing and because there's no food there. Right? So providing needs with the alternatives that are here isn't a amenity that's not going to cost us anything. It's just going to reap us benefits. So the point Mr. Stevens I think that was really well said is like the way that parks develop a master plans initially like little nodes you had your field and your ball field and your basketball court and your playground in each little node. A lot of the southern parks in the older zoning districts like as a communal gardens has still some of those kind of, you know, those little park nodes in the middle. You know, kind of looks a little like Savannah where the streets kind of stop into a, you know, into So, that's good, but eventually they evolved, right? So now we have Sugar Sand and the baseball, you know, Mecca. And, dehorably with the softball Mecca, they evolved. So, appreciating that having some of the older parks maybe also evolve into not needing their own fields but maybe having one flex field could be a future kind of visionary thinking for the repurposing of some of the older parks appreciating that we have some collective things, big things going on in some of these big parks as well. These so, you know, we don't need a super redundancy of that. I wonder if Mr. Stevens wants to respond before it gets. Yeah, let me just to finish the Beach and Parks District master plan, like the coordination of that is really a great first step in avoiding the super duplication of efforts in that, and I applaud that. That's a lot to unpack. So thank you. Just a couple of quick things. Just to follow on the Recreation Master Plan. So we did report a few weeks ago. We are working with Keith and Associates. We anticipate having our conceptual plans finish sometime in July to bring those back. But it is an interesting check in an egg looking at the downtown master plan versus the rec master plan and what influence is what. So if I have a balloon with air and it's in the top of the downtown and I press on it, it pushes out. So everything from the downtown that we move outside of the downtown impacts another park. When I take my hand back up, because if you go from, we looked at, okay, if there was no tennis in the downtown, I'm pushing down, all those tennis courts have to go somewhere else. When we say, well, there could be two, there could be four, there could be six, there could be eight. As I'm letting my hand back up, the air is going back, it's opening those spaces back up with those other parks. So there really is a very strong relationship, the downtown master plan, and a lot of ways, is almost a driving force of what happens in the recreation master plan, because when the recreation master plan started, the downtown was not initially part of that conversation. The amenities that stay in the downtown have a very strong and direct relationship on everything else we do in the city. It's also the configuration. What direction these facilities face, as we've seen with tennis, they don't face east-west. The sun rises behind, sets on the other side, you don't build courts in that configuration, they go north and south. What type of materials are we building those courts out of? So all those things, they play. So we're having to be even more flexible than we anticipated in the recreation master plan, we've had to look at what if we move all the amenities out? What do we have to do? But what if we only move some of them? What does that do? So part of going back to our master plan now is just identifying zones of and then figure out what could go here Based on what happens in the downtown. So my understanding is that we will be working with terrifers asV, you know, as groups within the city will have work groups to move forward with that. That those are the types of things that we're looking for to work with them, make the recommendations in kind of working back where from there. So there is a very big chicken and an egg but a very strong relationship between the two, the campus and the recreation master plan. Just a couple of other things we are working on activation. We have a number of public art pieces that are going into the wildflower, the downtown, in the next few months. I know that our special events folks are working on a series of different events and types of things to try to get some more activation into whether it be sandboard square or the wildflower., so we are working on that. Okay. There. Okay. Okay. That was a fantastic segment. I'm gonna turn it back over to Mr. Shad to ask if there's other needs that you have and wrap up your this part of the growth management. Okay, thank you. There's actually a couple other specific direction items we're looking for. So, you see here I'm not going to read them to strategic projects under the two strategic priorities. So under building energy benchmarking voluntary program we're asking for input and direction from the council. On confirmation of the program's parameters as proposed by staff and the funding level of $200,000 per year. Should I stop there or just read them both? What would you prefer, Mr. Mayor? One at a time, go vote. One you just read, Bill, if there's only one sense to read. Sure. And then on the project of C's opportunities for strategic land acquisitions, we have requesting input on policy direction regarding the purpose goals and priorities for desirable parcels. So basically, what are we looking for and why and for what? Can I start with the second first because I've said it before. I don't like talking about it until it's ready to roll. I think we've talked about it in the past. If staff see something, go for it, try to tie it up, come back to us. I know there may be some things, there was an illusion to something in one of the reports, continue with that, but I don't want to talk about it too much now until it's ripe that may upset the Apple card. I just want to jump in on that. Oh man, the other one, I haven't seen the parameters and I don't know what the funding level options are. Directionally it's fine. I don't know what the, I haven't seen it yet, but, so I don't know, but, you know, it's not a figure that seven figures. I think it's somewhat modest and probably designed to achieve some goals, but I don't know enough yet. I'll leave a put on your back front please. Can everyone hear me? No, we can. Sorry. So that program I'm pushing forward on it. I have a few commercial and multi-family business managers or sorry, building managers that want to participate in that program. So we're going to look at piloting it this year. And I will report out to council towards the end of the year on how that pilot is working out. And Boca is really going to be one of the first municipalities within the South East Florida regional climate compact to even be exploring this I've gotten a lot of help in building the program off of what Lindsey had already designed Who is my predecessor? I've gotten a lot of assistance from Miami-Dade County that has a Program that is already in town ordinance. It's a mandatory program. So I've been working closely with them to help, you know, look at our program and how we can roll it out in an efficient manner. And obviously this program is to help me, the city's race race to zero goals to be net zero by 2050. And then obviously from the business side to allow these building managers, building owners to realize cost savings in terms of their energy use year over year. usually about 2.5% that can be saved in their energy costs by benchmarking. So I'm rolling forward with that program and after the pilot has been implemented, I will certainly report out to council, let you know how it's doing, and whether I believe that 200,000 per year is something that we should keep words at or possibly put more money into. The $200,000 figure is going to be coming from economic development and the ideas to provide cost share on what are called Ashley Level 2 Energy Audits. So any participants in the program will receive a 50-50 cost share with the city on those audits. And they can cost anywhere between a few thousand dollars to tens of thousands of dollars just depending on the size of the building. The buildings that we are currently looking at would be over 10,000 square feet and have to be either commercial or multifamily. Ask a question then, Ms. Beto Jennings. I would say thank you for giving the overview on what that is. As with other things as you've heard probably yesterday and even before I would love to see going in what are your goals? What are the measurable metrics you hope to achieve through this? whether it's jobs created and incentive to bring companies here at a tractor, what results you think will come out of this beyond the data gathering, because it's not just data, it's benchmarking, but there's some data gathering there as long with the change, and then how it turns out not only for the actual reduction in energy usage which helps us but are there other more definitive economic or job benefits that we can see from this? Absolutely and I'm not prepared to answer that question right now but as we get rolling with the program I will certainly be and I could also look at case studies from Miami we did county to see how it's benefiting them. Thank you. Any comments on that? Yes. Please. And I've spoken enough. So please. Oh, no. Thank you for the good overview. My company has participated in specific items like this in a division of our company in the North region of the country and it's been very, very helpful. It's not only helpful with respect to kind of incentivizing energy efficiency, but a lot of the DOE stuff and we won't get into federal funding, but a lot of the DOE stuff that's going on as well and promoting this type of benchmarking and energy efficiency then actually gets, you get credits for financing. So you get a BPS reduction for energy efficiency, DOE stuff, sustainability, mexures, stuff like this. A like this, especially as a pilot program, could also incentivize more energy efficient development of both commercial and residential properties, which it has done in other regions. And I think we'll again give another reason to get the numbers to work, right? To get the numbers to work to pencil out, because if the building is, and especially in an energy by, you know, volatile climate like Florida, to get the energy efficiency model under control, to get a little bit more certainty because you're doing some of this benchmarking is it's going to help the deals pencil out, and that's what we want, all want right we want them to come in knowing that the city is going to give you a little push in the right direction to help the deals pencil out and when they see that and when they see that we're open to that it's another driver to get businesses to come here so you know I think it's a good first start and like I said as a pilot program certainly we could work on some some key metrics. From Ms. Drucker, any further comments? Mr. Shad, did you have, no one else said anything I think maybe more strategically on question two? Do you have clarity now? Or maybe we want to discuss that on question two. I'm good. Good. Back on the first question, if I can prod a little bit. So it makes sense to me not to talk about specific parcels or acquisitions. I get that. But in terms of what in general are we looking for and why? I think that's maybe worth more talking. And following up on the previous conversation, I think we're all thinking and hopeful but with the Jeffrey Street crossing that the North Federal area is going to be more ripe for redevelopment and what does that look like and it sounds like possibly it includes additional residential should we be looking for acquisitions in general So in that area for parks for anything else? I'm just just throwing it up there. I'll say yes, but not just limited to that. Again, I think Mr. Brown and team have a good sense of where there's a good deal and a good opportunity and we know our needs. So I don't think I have to go into details there and happy to talk more flying because then we get into more in the specifics. Ms. Nycliffe, Mr. Riger. Just one thing I wanted to bring up and I'm sure this is, you know what this is, but we talked a lot about connectivity. So parcels that provide that connectivity that, you know, maybe that just missing link that we need so I think you may already be looking at some of those things and That's what that's where I would really go supporting walkable connected neighborhoods Thank you miss Nox because I think that was perfectly, that's, you know, targeted parcels that promote connectivity that are really, you know, really vital. Yeah, I won't get into specifics. One thing that we didn't talk about briefly is the 20th Street corridor. I know before I took office, there was a study on the University corridor, and I know I guess nothing really kind of happened with it too much back then. But since that time, FAU has transformed from a university that my understanding was 75% commuter to now is a university that's 75% residential based. And as a result, as we all know, there's a significant shortage of student housing that's going to require the private sector to participate in meeting the needs. And we see some of those streams in the students in my class, and I'm sure Mr. Thompson's class that tell me where they live and how they have to live and people commuting from 441, because that's where they could find units. So, you know, in terms of being strategic, I would say maybe kind of rethinking or re-evaluating the university quarter, the 20th Street quarter, or as a potential, you know, updated that. So if you see some future growth, I think I'd love to see it, let's think of a little as possible. Yeah, some of my students come from for one in-booting beach in order to continue to school. So I mean, maybe that is commuter, but they're trying to be closer that they just can't. The acquisition of properties is a tricky thing. You guys recognize that? I think for the most part, the ones who folks who want to do business with the city on this find a way to get to us when the parcel's right. And so you all know the significance of those when they come in. I think we act quickly on the ones that if that happens because it does happen from time to time. It's the the other ones that get more tricky and once it's flagged as a potential acquisition of the price doubles. I think we look to you on how to approach that. I think we're open to anything that you think makes strategic sense because that's one of those things that we can particularly, we know what our needs are better than maybe the Commute than than the residents or the development community does And so we can act on those things probably better and we trust you all to act on those things when the opportunities rise Do you need more clarity? Nope. Okay. Are there more slides to your presentation? That's it for growth management. If you want to move on to quality of life, we can do that. Okay. Do we need a break? I think we should take our lunch break. We had it scheduled for 12 to 12.30. So I think this would be an appropriate time. When you just... I think let's check with staff to see that it's here and ready. It is, it is. I'm part of it is. Good. Someone said it was. An expert said that it was. Right, good. So how's 35 minutes everyone? Is that good? All right, so it's 12 o'clock. Why don't we just call it 12.45? We'll come back. 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Okay, so for the Quality of Life Strategic Focus Area, goals and objectives provide for the best quality of life for city residents by fostering a greater sense of community and preserving enhancing the city's cultural institutions. As you can see accomplishments under this SFA include upgrades, repairs and public safety improvements at Sanborn Square. The installation of the Centennial sign at Sanborn Square and a notice to proceed has been issued on the Recreation Master Plan as we mentioned earlier. Challenges here, including balancing growth with the protection of community character. That's probably the fundamental quality of life issue we have. So, a couple of questions for discussion. What are the most critical factors that define and enhance quality of life for our residents? What factors make a quality of life investment a higher priority than another? So, how do you choose between competing interests for quality of life? what measurable outcomes will tell us whether we are being successful in preserving and enhancing quality of life? Any other discussion? Anyone want to start? Is that a close? I can start. Thank you, Mr. Schett. So factors that define and enhance quality of life for our residents, I would start with public safety is top. And then as people are moving here, I think really looking for housing affordability and schools and you know access to culture dining, things that they can walk to, arts, events, and responsive city services. We talked about yesterday and reliable city services. And then what factors make quality of life investments? Higher priority. I think the community can really tell us a lot. There are community surveys that we've done and we have a lot of surveys out. So I think we have to let residents tell us what is going to make their quality of life higher and then it's up to us to figure out how to do that. And being proactive like we are with ISIP, and every other thing that we do in the city that they may not think of with the sewers and the water and the roads, like the mayor always talks about, but really listening to the residents and whether that's through surveys or our own strategic goals, then we need to follow that. And then measurable outcomes they had in preserving and enhancing quality of life. Again, resident satisfaction scores, how much our parks and trails and community facilities and libraries and the Amput Theater and everything else gets used are response times for the police and fire is, you know, if those go down and there was something in your slide presentation that you had Mr. Mayor. Oh, the C-Click Fix, you know, the how we respond to issues that the residents bring forward. And I think those are all measurable ways to measure excuse me measure quality of life satisfaction. So to recap the important components are safety, And the important components are safety, housing and affordability, schools, culture, arts, events, and government services. Clean, safe neighborhoods, connectivity, a range of services offered, and trust in their government. I would also add that as something. So I added trust in government. I added trust in government to the measurable outcomes, clean neighborhoods. So those are the components that are important in the, as we think of quality of life here in Booker Tone. The other thing that I heard you say was that there are certain listening posts that are important like the community surveys and other mechanisms for us to listen to what the community wants. And then we also ought to measure their trust in government usage of XYZ, whether it's parks or, and then response times. And I think something like the State of the City and how it's transitioned from what it was to what it is now and people getting to interact with all the different government services and have a chance to talk to them and have one-on-one time with you to the departments. I think that increases trust and increases the feeling like they're being heard and that for me increases quality of life here in my city. So it's connections and those touch points that Mr. Thompson was talking about yesterday and that's both with council and staff. Yes. Got it. I'll jump in because I wanted to detail some of that. For me, it's always been a triangle with the base, inverted triangle, where the base is public safety. And that leads to a thriving economy, and then that leads to quality of life. You need the thriving economy to provide the jobs and the investment and the philanthropy that then helps the quality of life for the non-city provided services, which are the bulk of them, the arts, the culture, the entertainment, the restaurants, the dining, the schools, public and private. The, we put on a whole range of events, and I think we've done very well at defining it. Deputy Mayor and Aguilis gave a whole range of examples and factors, I think they're all important. I think they're all factor there if we're talking about a strategic priority. I don't think we need to be doing different things what we're doing. I think we have a pretty well pat. I don't think there's something I would say differently than what we're doing. I would say you tweak and to get your second question, measurable outcomes. It's again trying to drive by data. First, there's a whole range of leading indicators. All of the other indicators we look at are leading indicators for quality of life, our crime rate, our response times, our property value increase, the number of jobs, the job growth, the rating of our schools, the number of people coming to invest here, the number of visitors coming here, the retention of residents, the students who want to stay here after graduating high school or college. All of those data points are not for this strategic focus area, they're in their own, but they all relate back. I think we can, if we're going to look at what should we, the middle question, what factors make a quality of life investment a higher priority than the other? I think it comes down to ROI and bang for the fuck. We have done a better job lately, experimenting with different festivals. I like that we're trying different festivals, different events, different ways to come out. We see we we see what people respond to and then drill down and we've had some great events this year. Bocus read fest. I think it was a huge success and we had thousands of people out there. Some of the other festivals we've had have been very successful. So others that we, you know, kind of, we don't do anymore because we saw that there was not as much demand. And I think the people vote with their feet. And I think that's a good way to measure it. It's also the impact. You want to be trying to do events that create a buzz and enthusiasm even for the non-attendees. I think we're seeing some examples this month that will prove a good bellweather. There are times candidly like we probably may have spent at a lower ROI based on some individual concerns. I think it was good that we wanted to put in ballads at St. Warren Square, but it really came out in result to a smaller group compared to the 100,000 of the city who wanted to do yoga there. And so unless, you know, the ballad serve another purpose, but we have to be wary about someone saying, well, my particular group wants one thing and then understanding investment, because we may have other priorities. Mr. Thompson gave the example before the wildfire parking. I agreed. We needed wildfire parking, and we, at the time, we said, well, we can't just make it for the residents the area that would have been a very low ROI for anyone else in the city. So it's trying to impact people with some understanding of the costs and benefits. And that may be one way to make an investment. And then there are other things like we invest in Bokeh return bullsulls and Economic Development Driver, but it's also a quality of life thing. It reaches thousands of people and millions of eyeballs. That is a little more measurable in terms of those impacts than other things. So I heard measurable outcomes in two ways. One is return on investment. Are we talking specifically financial investment? Investment time, capital resources, attention. By the way, there are a whole range, not everything that boils down to a number, of course. The quality of life is a feeling, it's an attitude. So are there things we do with our ex- excellent customer service? People feel to take Ms. Nathalie's point. People were energized to go talk to all the department heads and staff here. That's not a dollar invested there, but that's one of those things that make people feel part of our community. Our historical celebrations make us feel part of the community. It creates a sense of of place so It's many things, but it's hard to quantify it. I guess I'm just really responding to the second thing what factors number of people reached time effort those sorts of things So you also mentioned vote with their feet that's something certainly certainly that's measurable. And then the impact for some undertakings might have been smaller than expected and we may not be doing those anymore. Does this what I, this is- Yes, I'd say continue to pivot as we've not been afraid what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is what I, this is We don't do a whole bunch of things from the 1960s anymore, so that's okay. May I add to that, Mayor? Please. And I'm done. So, yes, you go down. I think between the shoe that have spoken on this, we've covered most of the ways that factors that affect or enhance quality of life. As for how to measure them, yes, for the most part, ROI is a good way of doing that. With one exception, I think we'd all agree on this. Recreation is not something that when you put money into it, you're expecting to get back a measurable return on investment. Like you're not judging it based on dollars and cents. We have, in my view anyway, some of the best parks, beaches, recreation, services and facilities and programs anywhere. People, we all have friends who don't live in the city, the Vokas and the police perfect. And when they come to us, they talk to us about the things that set Bokeh apart and people for the most part, they're flattering across the board when it comes to what Bokeh does well, but recreation is really at the top of that list. And I remember even as a kid myself playing in Bokeh apart and thinking these are things are just different than everywhere else, so much better. I was a goalie in soccer. There was always a dirt patch, if not that outright dirt everywhere on a soccer field, but not on the fields in Bokeh. I remember that vividly. It's going back 30 plus years. I can remember that. And. There's always a dirt patch, if not that outright dirt everywhere on a soccer field, but not on the field in Bokeye. I remember that vividly. It's going back 30 plus years. I can remember that. And it's tough to judge an investment into recreation in the same way because it doesn't yield a tangible, measurable dollar impact necessarily. But I don't think that we would necessarily want to take away in our investment for a recreation obviously. So that was one area where ROI is an imperfect measure of that. Usage is a great measure. And if I may dovetail with that and I'll take the liberty to do so, I agree with you, obviously, we invest in quality with our parks, but also just on recreation. If you're getting to the second question, it might, we have made strategic investments. We chose wisely not to allow the beach and park district to spend 25 million dollars on a golf course when it was going, you know, we saw that the ROI wouldn't have been there. We are, as we look at recreation, we're not talking about replacing shuffleboard because it's not as popular. We're looking more for the racquet sports I think we should continue to look that, you know, the uses rates that are coming out of recreation services will inform that recreation master plan and might also give some more empirical data on how you value that component, but agree, agree there, Ms. Walker. So, kind of when I look at quality life, one of the things that we didn't mention, I agree with everything that's been said is health. We want a healthy community. That's the next level. That's the visionary. Why do we want walkable areas? Why do we want pedestrian areas? Why do we want more green space? Why do we want more recreation? Because we want a healthy community. When you have a healthy community, it takes the burden. You have an older workforce. You have a workforce that will stay in it longer. You'll have the new workforce coming in. So we can discount the quality life equals health. That's another layer. And now if you hear it and some of the things that I coming in. So we can't discount the quality life equals health. That's another layer. And now if you hear it and some of the things that I participated in, it's just not walkability. And it's not the 15 minute walkable city. It's a 15 minute walkable city that includes wellness and health, includes blue zones, blue zone restaurants, et cetera, et cetera. So now we have to think bigger. So if we're thinking bigger and obviously I'm bold like that, I'm always thinking next steps, well you're gonna hear in the next 10 years, if not already, is that more and more communities and more and more individuals want health and wellness to be a part of their everyday life. That is why we're biking. That is why we're walking more. That is why we're doing things that are outside. Why it's so important to have obviously the recreation space, whether you're paddle boarding or you're going on the kayak, which is great, or you're doing all these other things. And I agree with Mr. Thompson, you can't put a price on health. The way that you measure ROI on health is how's it taxing our hospital? Are we having enough beds? We know the hospital has gone through an enormous change or adding areas to the hospital. So again, that's something to think about when you're creating development, you're bringing more people and business into the community. How is it gonna impact our healthcare? You want people to be able to get the best healthcare right here where they work, live and play. So I would add health as part of the quality of life. To me, health is really, really important. Without that, you can't do that and quality of care. Where are we getting the quality of care? Before people would leave Boka, now you hear a lot of people coming into Boka, we still have people that leave to get quality of care. So I think that's a bigger conversation. We're planning our suite of offerings for recreation. We can't just doubt that this country, this Florida, this Florida everywhere has a pandemic of mental health. You see it, there's programs out there, even through NLC, FLC, they're putting a lot of programming. You see it for the fire departments and police departments. So are we kind of taking care of that as well, especially, I mean, it also comes to mind that may be mental health. But I really think that some of our programming, when we have these facilities that we create, should have some of these things for our mental health, for our wellness and our being. Good, Mr. Reader. Yeah, I think about it a little differently. Growing up in the Northeast, obviously, the town I grew up in was incorporated in 1700. So by the town, the time I was there, it was already New Rochelle, 4.0 or 5.0 or whatever. We're just starting literally Boka 2.0, the second century, right? The first century essentially just building out on vacant land. So how we kind of reimagine how we're going to define Boka 2.0 is not going to be just about shining new buildings, but it's how we're going to enhance the communities that are there already. As we already know, the downtown, the older sector is a little more seasoned, right? It's more established when you move into town, you know, if someone asks you where do you live? You say, I live in this great city, Boca Raton. If you're talking to people in Boca Raton and they ask you where do you live, you say, I live in this great neighborhood, Woodfield, Broken Sound, Commuteau Gardens, the Preserve, you know, downtown, Alina, the beach. You know, you talk about great neighborhoods. So when I think about critical factors that enhance the quality of life, I think about great neighborhoods. And with that means in a town that's now kind of built out and it's in Book of 2.0, goes back to what we were talking about in terms of growth management, in terms of our planning sectors that we have these regions. And the most critical factor that I really think about in terms of quality of life is accessibility. Is that each node now because it's built out? It's not the people commuting from the residential PUD to the commercial PUD in 20 minutes each way, or 26 minutes each way, and going out to dinner at the Meizner Park sector, minutes to get there It's being able to live work and play being accessible Being accessible in your specific neighborhood, right? So I live in this great neighborhood. Oh, and we have this great commercial node now It's next to office depot believe it or not. It's this beautiful. There's a bunch of restaurants there and we can hang out there. Oh, I live downtown in Commute of Gardens. I get to go to, there's a circuit now and I get to go to Mazna Park and the new government campus center and so we can hang out there. And to Mr. Stevens Point, oh, and I live in, there's some little parks there that are so cool in this sector. right? So you go to the parks, unless you're doing some big soccer tournament, you go into the parks and frequent those things that are close to your neighborhood because they're accessible. And so it's like in the police division, we talk about the reverse, like the response time. How quick can I get it? There's eight fire stations. How quick can I get to the thing? Well, people have the opposite thing. How quick can I get to what I want to do? I want to do something great in my neighborhood. So I would say the factors that make a quality of life and investment a higher priority is how they impact the accessibility for our residents in their neighborhood. And obviously what measure will come would tell us whether we're being successful is utilization, and just in access. And in fact, that they are there to Mr. Thompson's point, the fact that a park is there and you're on a playground, I mean, who is ever counting the people going on a playground with it, with it there, you know? And so the fact that they are simply there, that is important. So to make sure every neighborhood, what the measurable outcome could be, is to make sure every neighborhood has those top 10 accessible things that we all just talked about. You know, that's something that's measurable too, and just the fact that they are there and that they all have them. So each neighborhood has its own identity. I think that's something we could measure and we could work towards. Can you say one more thing and then I want to ask a staff a question question please. I would say it's our brand too. I would say it's our brand too. We have swagger in Boca Raton. We know where a special place, the people live here, come for the brand, the people live in West County which is really parallel to Del Rey want the Boca Raton mailing address as a sign of that that not Del Rey and not unincorporated upon Beach County. I think that, you know, that, that strength that brand stemstrom all these things, it's, are there are certain things about our look, our appearance codes have been stricter, our mediums are nicer, it was palpable to me as a boy and Fort Lauderdale growing up and coming over federal highway and seeing the difference. I've heard Dick Schmidt tell that story of how he got here in the 1960s driving down A1A or driving down A1A or driving down US1 and stopping here. And Rick Sklar is same thing. So there's a feeling you get here. It's different. And it ties to our brand. So now that we've said some things, man, ask, how do we, what would staff like us to do to be, what's the next question? How does this discussion inform something actionable for you all for a strategic plan? And hey, you're looking at me, but anybody can feel free to do that. Sorry you asked. I guess one thing I thought was interesting was the idea ofocca 2.0, we know that we want our neighborhoods to be stable and largely be the same, but we also know that nothing stays the same completely. What do you see as being different in Bocca 2.0 in terms of the neighbors, in terms of the places that aren't going to see wholesale change to enhance quality of life. Well, as far as neighborhoods go, I mean, I hear all the time about incorporating the complete streets and incorporating safer ways to get around and safer ways for children to get to school. You know, take a lot of stress off parents that they knew that their children had safer outs to school. You know, so as far as neighborhoods go and of course that we have to work with the county on different streets, which I, you know, know is a challenge sometimes. But that's one of the ways I think without disturbing the integrity of the neighborhood, enhancing the neighborhood would be having safer ways for people to get around those neighborhoods and to the things that they need to get to. I ask a question. If we are sold on safe routes to schools, which we have been as a city, we've had this policy for a long time, are we willing to stick by it when a neighborhood says, I don't want a sidewalk in front of my house. I don't care how the kids get school. I do not want a sidewalk in front of my house because there are going to be people in front of my house. Now they're walking in the street. They'll be walking on the sidewalk. Are we going to, say, sorry, we're going to put in the sidewalk. We've had this kind of policy waffling for many years and if we say we're a firm on we're going to improve neighborhoods with sidewalks, then we have to be willing to follow through on it. Mr. Rankin, do you have any geographic examples please? Um, Tunis and palms. Everybody's ready for a sidewalk except one particular house that absolutely refuses to have a sidewalk and they, you know, they just don't want it. And they come to the council and I'm not saying it's this council. Talking about past things, people will come and say, we don't want the sidewalk and our instructions are, then go somewhere else, find another place to put in a sidewalk. Mr. Thompson, Mr. Dr. Walker, I'm going to guess for a role going to say how this, but please go ahead. Yes, the answer to that is yes. If anything, there Is this thing on? I think the answer is I think a very strong yes on that if anything I would want to see where probably I recognize This is a big lift potentially, but there are places that hold neighborhoods don't have sidewalks correct and that to me is a problem I'm less sensitive to the one or two people who don't want to have a sidewalk despite the obvious manifest benefit to having one there. So that's just me. Our sidewalking program has been prioritized by Safe Routes to Schools to add them in the areas where we have kids walking, say, to Boca Middle or to Boca L. We did new sidewalks for Boca Elementary. We did new sidewalks for Addison Meisner. There are other areas where we don't have a sidewalk, but there are children walking from neighborhood A to the school that that would be in our priority list. And then we would get to those areas of the city that never had sidewalks, but would benefit from them. And one of the side benefits of doing that is that if we're putting in sidewalks now, we can put them in such a way that we can add street trees and improve the quality of the neighborhood. I agree with everything's been said. I think we have to go, we're growing up. So Boca 2.0, what does it look at me? What does it look like to me? I think you asked the 2.0. It looks like we have to grow up and they're going to be certain things when you're growing up, even when you're older, that are painful and that you might not want to adjust too quickly. But everybody kind of adjusts. So I agree with Mr. Thompson. For one person, and you can't affect an entire area because at the end of the day for me in particular is public safety. If a child has a safe for rights. So I agree with Mr. Thompson, for one person, you can't affect an entire area. Cause at the end of the day, for me in particular, is public safety. If a child has a safe for route to get to school, we could save a child that a person doesn't see them coming out of their driveway, cause there's a sidewalk there, and then you know there's like a, the sidewalk just visually, when you're backing out, you know there's a sidewalk. sidewalk triggers that people are walking. Just like when you see a ball rolling, what you know there's children there, because there's a ball, right? So, or or or anything. So those are things that are... sidewalk, sidewalk triggers that people are walking. Just like when you see a ball rolling what you know there's children there because there's a ball right so or or or anything. So those are things that are in my opinion common sense. So I would be a hundred percent behind. I don't need to even check the area. I don't need to check the area because at the end of the day my job is to save lives by public policy and by public safety. And you're always going to have those individuals that don't want it in their backyard, and they are going to be the first ones on the sidewalk, the first ones on the coffee shop, and the first one, hopefully, writing either tricycle or bicycle or something else. Just a red glare. You know, absolutely, there are places that scare me as a biker that when I'm riding either on the sidewalk or adjacent if there's no bike lane or something like that where the sidewalk just ends. Obviously, the communal reality has been talked about significantly on the east side of the bridge where if you really just spend a little time there to Mr. Thompson's point, I think it's like five properties. If it's four, and it's actually the side of their property. So it's almost like a space that's even not, let's say, significantly utilized. So, you know, kind of doing those connective things, you know, these small little connections of sidewalk or leads to really big victories in terms of public safety. safety You know obviously we talked about it significantly at the last or two meetings ago in terms of bikes and e-bike safety And especially these young you know young children They use the sidewalks for their bicycles and you know the ones that are going slower and younger of course they should The e-bikes that are too fast that's a different story but the fact is when the sidewalks just ends we are I don't say we the collective we the community is creating a dangerous situation because you're making them make essentially a life or test decision right okay I'm gonna have to get into the road now with cars because there's no sidewalk anymore whether I have to walk in it to school or walk in it if I'm elderly or walk in it or use my bike. So in terms of that basic connectivity, I mean, yeah, in terms of implementing it, I know there's a cost we talk about that. These are major, major cost things. And just adding another layer of the ISIP program is like, okay, and now let's do every sidewalk over. You know, just make some, you know, the cost, you know, significantly more. So I think, you know, there's probably a hybrid approach, you know, to that, or you have some quick wins and some big pictures things, you know, dealing with arteries first. But certainly the connectivity of those things is critical on itself. Lots of... big pictures things, you know, dealing with arteries first, but certainly the connectivity of those things is critical on itself. So lots of things. Great. We appreciate the council's confirmation of the policy. That's where we're going to continue. And I should emphasize that our approach is not scorched earth with homeowners. If we can work around a tree, we work around a tree. If we need to replace some shrubbery, we replace the shrubbery. It's not, you know, sorry we're coming through with a bulldozer. Thank you. Okay. Further questions on this, or? I have one more. Please I think Mr. Shad's question. I'm sorry this is course. Sorry. The question that Mr. Shad had related to you know in existing communities that are not going to change that much. How does what was your question was how are we going to maintain their quality of life if there's not going to be? Well, I mean, I think the idea is it would be too enhanced, like there's not going to be the complete absence of change. So what, what does need enhancement in terms of those areas that are not going to see the whole subject? So maybe an easy answer when you're, obviously, we're doing already, but it's, to me, I think of when the community 25 miles to the south of us had some deferred maintenance issues a few years ago. It hit a neighborhood that was a well settled well established very proud neighborhood. So continuing to make sure that we are proactive in our maintenance on things like the basics that good city government provides I think, is an absolute must on that. And that's not the suggestion. This is like, it goes back to my comments yesterday. It's not the suggestion that we're not doing that. But I would want to place, at least for me, an enhanced amount of focus on making sure that that happens in those neighborhoods. Because while they may not be seeing those kinds of changes to their neighborhoods, they do expect for the variety of services that we provide to be up to the level of what they've grown to expect. And we've been good at delivering over the course of decades. I think too that we've been good in cooperating with our utility partners. Father Powell in light is doing significant underground activity right now. And we have facilitated that with them. And coordinated that with the isop this following, et cetera. So I think those kinds of positive changes are happening in the established neighborhoods and will help them to remain established. The only thing I would add that I think we can do to enhance the quality of life in any neighborhood is to add more trees. I might also invite Chief Trainer and Chief Mouscio to add any comments around what could be enhanced to help the safety of those neighborhoods, if anything at all. Are you referring to building the new sidewalks or quality in general? In general. You know, it's kind of like me, I just keep saying, it's kind of like council, I'm in with what she's looking for for vibrancy. I'm looking for safety and I'm looking for when we have open areas where a vehicle can drive through, where we have a lot of people congregating, we need to make sure that we put something out there to prevent a vehicle from doing that, whether it's decorative ballards or whatever it is, that's one of our biggest fears is vehicle-to-warn attacks. And do further expand on that a little bit as well. I mean, anytime we can have children or anyone off a roadway walking and on a sidewalk is much safer for us as well. I mean, for the public health part of it as well, and things we respond to. So, yeah, I mean, that's always a good thing. And finally, with regards to maintenance programs, it's not just for infrastructure, I would invite Mr. Stevens to talk about, especially in those neighborhoods where not a ton of change may happen, but are there things that require maintenance or other considerations? There's maintenance, obviously, in other considerations. I mean, we talked about that a little more in a slider tail. But the whole concept of the Bocatoupoin O is a strong point across the the board because a lot of the things that you look at in recreational facilities in Boka, a lot of things were built 30, 40, 50 years ago. We rebuilt them, or when I say we talk about maintenance, we maintain them, but it's been rebuilding or fixing up the same thing over and over again. So that's, you know, some of the things we're going to see as we start going into the older parks or what not is having to we talked about yesterday maintenance versus new but I kind of consider a middle category of modernize which is something that may have already been there but having to rebuild it. Again you're seeing things that were built for a population that is no longer the population that one was built. So maintenance and all those types of things will have to take into consideration, but also looking at access and in dealing with the population that is grown. Mr. Shad, anything else you need? I do have a pretty good idea. I'm good with these questions. Yes. Okay. Are there comments? Any other comments on anything? Okay. So I'll move on to the following slide. Oops. There we go. A couple of input and directions here on the strategic projects. The first one is regarding sandborne square and direction from the city council on design and uses at sandborne square going forward. And on the recreation master planning policy direction on implementation priorities. I'll start. We, I think wisely deferred more decisions on say and born square pending what's happening out of leto I would continue to defer as that that is there getting underway and we plus have we have a lot on our plate right now and Second on the recreation master plan. I think it was said before I think We've done a good job at pivoting with the new downtown needs and I appreciate Mr. Stevens, your balloon-pressing analogy. So let's just consider the pressure there. I do think getting more empirical data, we may get some outsized vocalization of needs by some members of our community. and I think it's important to contextualize that in the actual data we're getting. So our partner can figure out what's doing there and we can figure out accordingly. And they're exploring multiple options. So keep prioritizing that and we'll, that will drive, that will drive the front of the train on rounding out the plan, but we do need to move forward as much as we can on it. Thoughts? Mr. Walker. I agree. I think we talked a lot about the recreation master plan. I think we've postponed Sam Samford Square for, I thought it was in 2027. I disagree respectfully with you. I disagree with you, Mayor Singer, on the ballerads. I think the ballerads need to be there, whether it was for the yoga or not. That's an empty open space that if you have anything like the parade is closed off, but there are other times that people are in there, and they congregate there, whether we've given them permission or not. And it was just a good safety measure, I think, to do that. Obviously, maybe we didn't spend as, you know, because we were thinking about we're doing the park, and we went back and forth, et cetera. So I- It's just a good safety measure, I think, to do that. Obviously, maybe we didn't spend as, you know, because we were thinking about we're doing the park and we went back and forth, et cetera. So I think, you know, since we didn't do the park at that point, then it was, I guess, well, money spent at that point. But at the end of the day, how do you measure ROI? You can't. You can't measure people's lives. quality of life as you have to be alive to have good quality of life. So I think putting that in there as a temporary solution, protecting the people, they're still doing the yoga there. It is extremely well-attended. I think that was one of those that I agree, not everything that we hear we can take into, you know, some doesn't to account because this is a very large city with a lot of different people's inputs. But in that one, I think We got it right. Even though we might have spent more money than we wanted to, I believe wholeheartedly, we got that area right for now. And as you approach 2027, then we can have more directions on design and uses for the park. Mr. Thompson, I don't know about that. Agreed regarding same word squared doesn't seem like the right time to be re-invisioning it. Let's wait and see what happens there first. On the recreation master plan, I think I would agree largely with what the mayor said. And I hate to bring up. It's now a study that's like five plus years old. But the needs assessment that we did gave us a sense of who used what and how often, right? I think that should educate how we, what you're asking for here is policy direction, we're learning how to prioritize what gets implemented. I think that should educate how those decisions are made. Let's put in place relocate and create and where necessary facilities that are going to be used by the most number of people. They're not necessarily the loudest people, or the ones who come here the most often, but the ones who you will use it the most. And I would further suggest that we keep our minds open as to new ideas to be used, new ideas to be implemented at a place like, say, North Park where it is recreation specific and there's wide open areas of land. There are interesting ideas out there about how some of these spaces could be used. They may deviate somewhat with regards to what the Beach and Park District had contemplated over the last few years, but I think it's worth keeping an open mind both for us and for them. I'm what can be put there because you have a nice beautiful blank canvas that could provide for a lot of recreational needs for our city for a long time if we have the commitment to implementing new things there. Anyone? Mr. Reader? Yeah, I agree largely with these, with these in the comments that, that were said, the Sanborn Square, you know, can, can be part of a larger picture that's important in terms of recreational master plan. Greater Boca Park and District master planning. Yeah, I mean, obviously, now that there's certainly increased coordination, certainly in the last couple of years, that's important. Just as Miss Nakhla said a couple of years ago, and certainly within the last space needs assessment, no one was talking about pickleball. And now I think we have 50 pickleball courts and our own pickleball court per pervillion so you know it might need to be some updated there but again you know my my concern and I brought it up you know last time tangentially about the book or tone golf and I say this in quotes and racket club you know and unfortunately there's some sarcasm there because there is no Racket Club there. It was grassed over. As was the pool there. I do think we do need to have a serious discussion workshop on how much public dollars we want to spend in a golf course that's not in the city. And the ball process at the time, I got it, it was a quote gift, but as they say, be aware of free gifts because it's not that free. And a better place, I get it, we don't want to have two golf courses that are both losing money, but a better place for a world class golf course would be this north park, would be this north park. And, you know, I cannot see spending a lot of taxpayer dollars when we have all these other critical, critical things. I cannot, you know, I cannot currently appreciate spending a lot of tax dollars in the golf and racquet club renovating or enhancing that place right now, given all the other critical needs and also the negative ROI that's looked at in annexing it into the city. If it's not worth it to annex in the city, how is it worth it for it to be the city's best golf course? I'm still, I'm struggling, I'm struggling with that being the future of golf in Boca Raton when I'm looking at this point right here. Thank you just a couple comments. So on Sanborn Square, I also think it it needs to be part of the bigger picture and I was all for it getting revitalized prior to but I understand with everything going on on federal highway and in downtown what I do think it needs and staff already addressed it was the palm trees are past their useful life and they don't really provide any kind of shade canopy. So staff's already on top of that. And yeah, just keeping the activation going and eventually connectivity to the government whatever we do over there. So I'm just keeping all of that activated and safe as much as we can and then eventually the connectivity making it safer. So Mr. Wigdry, you talk about the golf that's city golf but not in the city and you said something about beware of free gifts and there's a line out of the social dilemma documentary that was on a few years ago and if you're not paying for a product you are the product and that's another thing to be aware of what you get for free. So you know I said what I said about the recreation master plan and I do also appreciate the squashing thing but again I really you know you're going to have it the plan is to have it in July, and you have the consultant. So we'll wait until then, but hopefully in July we really see the robust, really well-thought out plan that we are ready to move ahead with. And I know we can't see into the future what we need and what racketsets sports or you know other kind of sports are coming down the pike but I know we'll make a really good informed decision on the information that we have. So I'm not sure we have consensus but I think with regards to sandborne square, the decisions are being deferred until 2027 because they're a part of a bigger picture. Did I? Is that right? Did I miss something? Yes. Yes? Okay. Or at least 2027. I wanted to go after the allidial project and is that unfolds and that's probably the same timing. Yes. Okay. And then the consensus on the recreation master plan is to wait for July. No, I would not say that. I would say staff should continue to as they are doing evaluating what we can now. from this maybe I'm saying this articulating it for his time. Staff should continue to as they are doing evaluating what we can now. Or this maybe I'm saying this articulating it for a time. Staff should continue to evaluate what it's been doing right now on the downtown needs that are impacted because that that's going to be the leading edge of that. If we're going to get the whole plan in July, okay, if we can't accelerate it, that's what it is. It's not that far off, but I think we've already done well in assessing skateboard, softball, and we're doing tennis. So that covers those needs. That's my perspective, Ms. Drucker. Can I just say if we're going to get the plan and I agree sooner than later but maybe we wait to everybody's back because if they're going to present to us something in July and there's a workshop, most families are not here. Like are gonna have input into the parks. Maybe we wait till our first meeting in August to have a formal presentation or update. I mean, keep working on the plan. Keep doing all your due diligence, but July meetings are not well attended. We all know that, especially that we're moving this meeting. We move this meeting up as well for this July, for our July meetings. So I think that any kind of big presentations, and my opinion should hold off to August when everybody's back in this area for input and for many reasons. May I suggest instead a compromise where we get the plan in July, at least we get the info we can discuss it, doesn't preclude our having a later discussion in August, but given the impact it has having on other things, I think if it's ready and ripe and some of us wanted even earlier, I'd say let's at least get briefed and then we can decide what to do if we're going to follow. We can get it, but we want input from the community. Of course. On something of that nature is really important. It'll avoid us a lot of things going forward. Agreed, certainly. So I think we might give two opportunities. Perfect. Even. nature is really important. It'll avoid us a lot of things going forward. Agreed certainly. So I think we might give two opportunities. Perfect. Even better. Further thoughts? Are you, yes, Mr. Stevens? Just a couple things. Just to clarify. So what we're looking to get in July is actually going to be conceptual plans. Several of the parks were having two to three conceptual plans put together for the areas that we mentioned in the last update. We'll then have a recommendation based on those conceptual plans of how we would like to proceed. So that's what we'll be bringing to you. The plans we're expecting to have some time in July, have the recommendations probably to the end of the month, but as far as presentations, probably be looking at your meetings in August. So just to put the timeline together there. Just a couple of quick thoughts, some of these things have been said in bits and pieces or some of them, slightly repeating, but just a preliminary looking at the wreck master plan. Again, what's in the downtown? Relates to an impact, the amenities in the rest of the city. We've said again, strong impact, very much connected to each other. And amenities in the downtown are also just for the people in the downtown. It was mentioned before, one of the plans that we've seen from Terrafres we talked about, indoor basketball court. Somebody may look at a basketball court, in their mind they see a basketball court with a goal in each end. When I look at a basketball court, I see a court with a goal in each end, but I see two sets of goals that Chris Cross coming across the plane for people to practice on. When I see those four goals on the side, I see a younger kid's basketball league playing on those courts that it's not just one court, now it's two courts. And when you have two courts of games going on, you have two more games of kids showing up. So now you have four teams instead of two. I'm sorry, you have two and say four. But, or eight, you know, you have two more games of kids showing up. So now you have four teams instead of two. I'm sorry, you have two in city of four. But you're looking at a larger number of people who are coming down to use that facility. So that's something that we have to look at, not just in the downtown, but all of our parks, at what is the capacity? We have to start designing for capacity to use, the population that we're dealing with now. dealing with now. One of the early feedbacks that we're getting from our consultant on our parks is that we are under park, we are parking less parking in every park than we should have. Based on the modern population, we don't have enough parking almost anywhere. And again, that's because these parks were built 30, 40, some over 50 years ago and what not times have changed. We have a lot more users that's something else that we have to address and that's something else we're working on. We've talked about the configuration of what we're putting in. Again, what direction makes a big difference north, south, versus east, west? The types of amenities, clay, quart versus hard, quart makes a difference in the people that are using the amenities. And also the number of facilities. Sometimes it's not always just about the number of people who use a facility, but it's the number of facilities that it takes to make useable sense of programming of a facility. For example, tennis, you can have six, but when you play tennis leagues in the mornings and evenings, they take up six courts, traditionally the way things are set up. If you only have six, you're very limited to what you can do. So typically you don't built six, typically you have a few more. So we have to look at again how many types of courts are we putting, where are we putting them, what directions they're facing. We have to design and look at the cost of maintenance and operation because it's not just where we build the facilities and how we build them, but if we take an amenity and we split it in half and build it in two parks, we now have to staff and maintain amenities in two different parks that we're doing in one now. So we're doubling our cost of operation and maintenance. Those are big things we have to look at for the long term. And again, goes back to talking about maintenance facilities. We are taking things from the downtown, pushing things into parks that we're happy to have them in. But the maintenance structures that are put up in a lot of these parks that are strained and stressed. A lot of our main facilities are 30 and 40 years old that haven't been built over in that same time. There's an old saying in recreation, in order to the maintenance isn't sex, it's not a playground, it's not a new amenity, it's not something people get to play with, but it's something that we have got to have in order to put these facilities in the parks. In our clientele, it has very high expectations. And we talked about the fields and having dirt patches in the goal areas. It's not acceptable. And we struggle with some of our parks in those areas, but I think we do a pretty good job overall. Those are all things that we have to take in the consideration. And again, you look at South Beach Park with this park, Lake Wyoming, Meadows Park. Go into the parks and take a look. As I came up through working in recreation, I grew up in Boka all the years that worked for the city. We were always supposed to be cutting and Meadows Park. Go into the parks and take a look. As I came up through working in recreation, I grew up in Boko, all the years that worked for the city, we were always supposed to be cutting edge. We were always supposed to be ahead of everybody else. We were always supposed to be the ideal place for parks and recreation. And in a lot of ways we are, but we're not that way at all of our locations. And that's where, as we're looking back our park structure and overall, it's through this, through the Rec Master Plan, through the campus plan, and looking at it, but it's a big picture, but it's something that affects the entire city and there's a lot of pieces to the puzzle The thing man just thank you miss miss Stevens you outline that very well. I say this. We already yesterday said it's important to maintain our facilities. I don't know what point you're going to have to choose on how you move forward with one or another, but I'd say some of the guidance, at least for me, some of the guidance that we've given in terms of ROI, number of people impacted may provide a useful measuring stick, as you're to prioritize what over what and you do raise some good points about putting different types of recreation uses in multiple locations as opposed to one. So I know we've done well, do orally for example, clustered. That's probably a good ROI to keep thinking about things because not every have everything. We have 49 different ones of them. You can't have every sport times 49. Thank you for the thoughts. Okay. Mr. Shad, do you have what you need in understanding to move forward? I'm good if the rest of staff feels the same. Mr. Stevens? Okay. That concludes number six. So we are in the home stretch. We will move on to transportation mobility. I will turn it over to Mr. Beer, who is the lead for this focus area. Good to go. Yes. All right. Thank you so much. I would do an introduction as the last strategic focus area. But I do think after the conversation I've had plenty of time to consider all the other dialogue. And how that is part of transportation mobility. And I think my intro would be very humbled from public works and staff working on the strategic focus area because even throughout all the other elements I got to hear or transportation mobility how it weaves through the rest of our strategic focus areas and just how important it is to the city. So I just didn't really quick math and I've heard in other places so I'm gonna get to take credit for it but the right away is the largest piece of developer real estate in the city. So I just didn't really quick math and I've heard it in other places so I get to take credit for it. But the right away is the largest piece of development real estate in the city. Generally speaking, when I did it, it's really rough math, but something like 3,700 acres total. So that's about 10 times the downtown area and probably part of why there's so much to debate and discuss about how we utilize our ride-away space. So starting with that premise from TM the strategic folks area team we had several people engage as we had the dialogue with our core team and subject matter experts and then certainly brought in everybody from the city staff to deliberate on our transportation needs. Some of our goals and objectives is to provide a well-connected and comprehensive transportation mobility network that links hubs of activities and commerce serving the entire Boca Raton community and our strategic accomplishments. We had the benefit of also having the downtown campus master plan and trial development. So those were our transportation oriented communities jointly taking credit for that with quality of life. And then the code amendments and projects. So mixed use multi-family developments, commercial industrial, multi-family development, plan mobility developments, and enhanced mobility development. So those things where we really leverage our cooperation with the community to be able to enhance transportation and connectivity. Then a big component that I would say has moved through the stages of kind of early conception and really the Vision Zero action plan is nearly complete. We've already seen some of the benefits of going through that process. And I think we'll continue to, I'll get into the Vision Zero elements as I move through the presentation, and then also having our demonstration and kicking off the process. Palm Auto Park Road walkability study, we have our initial recommendations presented, and then our task order is underway to take on certain enhancements at that location. But I think really as we talk about Sanborn Square and use some of those other discussion points that Campus Master Plan was an emergent opportunity to seize by the city. And so with that, Palmetto Park Road East, I think is really informed by a lot of the activities on the west side of the tracks and having staff focus on that as we go through and develop that project. And then the Bocca Connect pilot program I continue to see emails and responses about people utilizing it. Of course as there is with any service we hear feedback from customers but overwhelmingly I hear the benefits that people are seeing from it and the opportunity is providing for them to go out and enjoy our downtown. And with that, we also successfully expanded service to the beach and were in communications with Guident, which will be upcoming as a possibility to engage with an autonomous vehicle to start with a very small pilot program because there's a lot of permitting associated with that and then utilize that to expand it to other areas and additional connectivity in the downtown. I would like to note as well, you know, with Boko Connect, that is our on-demand service and staff very frequently in the transportation group debates the benefits of the connected service and the on-demand versus a fixed route, right, with the development a lot of the early cities. You have the trolleys and other things that kind of went out of fashion and then now with connected vehicles and still fixed routes. If you're getting ready to get up and get your kids and go to work, a fixed route offers an opportunity to have consistency to be able to expect transportation at a certain time. So while we see the benefits of both, it's something as we think about that longer, longer term, bigger picture of what might it look like in 2030 or 2040, certainly a topic for consideration. So transitorian community and connecting hubs in Pokeratone, I give credit to Council Member Wigger for that. He's really stuck in my mind from the perspective of the hubs, right? Because certain places and destinations have kind of dense elements where it's centrally located, I think one of the cool things about Poker-Aton is different hubs and districts in different locations. The mall, the downtown, FAU, the beach, all of those elements that people will move from one area to another. So I brought up on the screen the map of our Brightline station and our Tri-Rail station and then our one main bus district hub at outside of town center mall and really just the visual of we have the transit-oriented communities that are developing around those two areas both then what does it look like to continue to connect our transit hubs and really enhance transportation within the overall city thinking about the districts or the different modes of transportation so first question to council is is there any other input for staff in transit-oriented communities in Boquerhead, too? We had mentioned that maybe it was yesterday, the concept of transit-oriented developments or communities don't necessarily have to be around insations. They can be around more than that. Have we given any thought to any of the high capacity, say bus stops or terminals that are within the city that may be suitable for a TOD or TOC? I don't think anybody else can come. So just so the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. I think that's the same thing. plan, I think that happens at a higher level because just kind of talking about some of the challenges we've seen on the transportation mobility front is the defunding at the federal level. So I think that's gonna be some headwinds that we're going to experience. And then additionally at the state level, there's been if anybody's reading the news reports about tri-rail and some of the funding challenges that they're seeing even PalmTran and the FDOT have all identified some funding gaps in the near future and so I think from a more that connected transportation and looking at staff evaluates those options that's a county county level, a community part, where we partner with other agencies to be able to make that happen. So I think that's one of the challenges that we've looked at. May I follow up? Have we identified any locations in particular? I have one that I remember I see all the time as being a high frequency bus station and it's near the mall. Have we considered that as something that would be mariting a TOD around it, given the volume that goes through there? Yeah, absolutely. That, both that and over at Camino. So both of those locations have certainly been identified if we were to expand beyond Palm Trans Service, are certainly areas where there's well- well established routes and transit that's identified at those locations. Could I add a comment? I think about US one when I think about a place that, you know, more, um, more density, more, more redevelopment of a type that would support transit might be appropriate. I think we're waiting, unfortunately, on, um, higher levels of government in some cases. There's a plan by the TPA to have bus rapid transit on federal we don't actually know if it's going to happen right. The Tri-Real Coastal link is something that for the 20 plus years I've lived in Florida I've been hearing is coming but it's not here. Is it coming you know we I think we should think about would it be helpful to think in terms of land use planning for those things that we believe are coming or might be coming or might be more likely if we were to have more transit supportive land use just as an idea. Mr. Walker. Thank you, Mayor Singer. So just to go on the on the T. Where my T. P. You know my T. P. Hat. Yeah, there's a lot of discussion and I mean the BRT is in my Emmy day. They're getting ready to open their second phase of BRT. There's talks about obviously the East Coast. It just got they just got their funding for that. The difference between Miami Day, Broward and Palm Beach is they have a surtax. We in the county do not have a surtax, which is why the county, I believe, I mean, I'm just speculating, has gone out to do this transportation plan for all 39 cities in the county, because we're also vastly different, right? We're so fortunate, because we have two rails and we have an airport. I mean, we're just very cutting edge in terms of transit and different modes of transportation. Then the west and our rural areas of other cities. So I think we're going to get that report's going to be coming out and like Mr. Beers said earlier today, everyone is inputting their information into that. and then there's going to be this plan that they're going to come up with. And I think in with hopes to try to get certain individuals, certain private entities on board to try to get some kind of surtax. We know that in any city that has this kind of mobility, whether it's, I mean, surtax, I'm sorry, whether it's a half penny, a full penny, or whatever pennies they are, they're going right to transit and that's how they'll be able to, how they've been able to implement this. Because the cities are losing money, like you said, there's a lot of talk about whether it's trial rail, whether we talk about private as well, Brightline, whether we talk about Amtrak, which is also, we don't have a stop here, but we have one to our sister in Delray, a sister like next source, or a sub-sister city, Delray has a stop, it goes all the way to Tampa. A lot of conversation around rail, and locally, county-wise, tri-county, and also at the state and federal level. So I wouldn't say we're gonna go ahead and just stay away from all of that. I think we need to plan with that in mind that the business community and the public sector really wants to see more money be to be put into these to these transportation opportunities because when people are coming here, that's one of the areas of deficiencies is that we don't have enough transit for a lot of the people that are coming. They want more ways to move around and companies make decision based on certain things like that. So I think that the BRT is something that they're still looking at for short coastal link is something that there's an actual study and I think garges off of glades. I think it goes west to east and we can get more information from TPA, but it's still things that we should definitely keep on our radar in the back of our mind when we're planning. I agree with what you're saying with US1, a lot of the transit-oriented communities that are built in Miami are around that area, like they're already positioned in that area. So I think that just keeping that, as long as we're keeping that in the back of our mind, there are things being done to try to push this. To Mr. Beers point in terms of federal funding as we speak right now tomorrow, big day for federal funding for transportation. The transit authority is going before Congress to present their part of the reconciliation bill. And there's just a lot of things that are happening. So if you're listening to this meaning right to your Congress person, man, woman, to tell them to reauthorize the funding for transit, for rail, for federal funding to come into the state so that it could go to the counties. Very, very important. So a lot of things that are still in flux. Oh, I just did, it's an opportunity. It's a tiny bit off topic, but adding we're talking about the surtax. I did, it was important, as I discussed with staff, important for me to bring up. Just really quick some numbers from some data from 21 through 25. We had the Palm Beach County Penny Surtax, which was an incredible benefit to our community. Oh. a quick sum numbers from some data from 21 through 25. We had the Palm Beach County Penny Surtax, which was an incredible benefit to our community. Overall, generally, again, estimates is $65 million. Starting in 21, our department was able to budget $20 million than $6 million, $7 million, $7 million, and $4 million in 2025. So that fund is reaching the end of its life. And so we have about three to five million remaining that we're going to utilize. But I think from some of the hard decisions that we're going to have to make on either maintenance or some of the new pursuits, that funding won't become available at the county didn't pursue it in this last round. And I'm not sure what the strategy is, but from the city perspective, that is something that we're considering as we look at different opportunities and things related to our overall CIP and especially transit. Yeah, thank you. Can you go back to slide four, the previous slide? Yeah, I love this. Thank you, Zach, for putting the map up there so we could visualize the city a little bit. And you could see the organic development as the city is expanded, you know, the nodes, how they expand. And, you know, and your point of the of the mall being potentially that third node of connectivity for interest city connectivity, I think is, you know, I think is very, is very thoughtful. You know, when we did the 4035 zoning, this is years ago, and really what's happened with the plan mobility zone, is more of a, you know, the old zoning was that there's a commercial zone and you have to build off this building in this zone. And the residential zone and you have to build housing in this zone. But what the downtown and what the plan mobility and what even live local is moving towards is more of a form-based code is where the city is not so much dictating the uses as it is dictating the intensity of what's supposed to be there. And likewise, what you could see from something like this is that the intensity of that mid-town, ready to start to get to turn into a transit-oriented community with a mixture of uses not dictated by the zoning code or that dictated towards the market and being more open to a mixture of uses. I think it's a couple of years ago already. I think it was the mayor at the renaquook, the Renaissance Hotel. If you remember that, he said, oh, there's a, you know, we're having a renaissance in the mid-town district now, when they renovated that hotel. This is a couple of years, last year or a couple of years ago, or whenever it was. And then of course, restaurant really opened up and we could see that that's happening now. And so, it was embracing that with, you know, allowing more of a transit-oriented community in that area, you know, and getting the private sector to participate is going to help that grow into a node. And then, and then maybe we could do some intercity connectivity. If it's a penny surtax that we have to depend on I don't know about that It's probably more likely you know in this current cycle that we can depend on the private sector Adding to our tax base and to to help pay for some of those You know so in terms of a thought process there, but to your last to your other point in terms of some fixed Some like the trolley system like there's some fixed dependency that the trolley is gonna be circulating and I can certainly see something like that once the downtown Campus is done too is that that should just be some dependent circulator happening and in towns it's happening again It's right. It's it's a renaissance of that also So I I could see us looking into the kind of completely different types, including old types of transport, including the quote trolley service or the gondola service or whatever it's going to be. So just being creative and innovative in reusing the way that things used to be, reinventing them could be a way that we transform our future too. So yeah, exciting stuff, but this is great. Thank you. Are you asking for Mr. Beard to look into those other things in lieu of the surtax? Well, I think the surtax is something that's quote, out of our control, right? So I think it's not a lieu of it. But the idea is we're going to have to plan, we have to plan with certain things that the federal government gives us who doesn't give us and work with what we have as well. I would just note, I think that's why I brought up yesterday about our continued partnership. And I think it's more of us continuing our partnership with the county and developing that relationship with both the TPA or all three, TPA County and the state and then being prepared with our city transportation plan to really inform those agency partners of what the city of Boca Raton needs. So I think that is an important component to prepare ourselves in the event that those opportunities are available. If I may, I just want to share my experience in Broward County with their transit fee. In Broward County, they are the marriage to the extraordinarily large bus system that if you see more than 5 or 10 people in any bus at any given time is surprising. And the amount of land that you have to dedicate to a typical bus stop in the public realm is frankly ridiculous. And so you have these half empty or three quarter empty buses that are dictating and in particular around young circle in the core of downtown. The amount of land that they want even today for this bus system that they utilize I don't know what percentage of the transit fee is committed to those frankly antiquated systems so I hope that that in Palm Beach County and I I'm obviously not familiar with Palm Trin and what they're doing these days but I can only hope that they are being a little more nimble and being open to other methods besides the extraordinarily large 60 foot turning radii buses that they continue to be married to in Broad County. Mayor Sincrede. Ms. Nagelstein, go ahead. So. I was just going to ask you all. All right, Ms. Parker. So just to answer to your question. So they are getting away from the antiquated type of bus systems with Mr. Chatton-Mancho, which is a BRT, which is a bus rapid transit. If you haven't had the opportunity to go to Miami-Dade, I'm sure they would put a tour for some of the individuals. They have dedicated bus lanes on the transit-oriented corridors where people are using this to move around. You have to have certain type of transportation to move people around. You can't keep building up and building out and have effective ways of moving people. So I understand that maybe Broward is behind because we don't have a BRT there, but in Miami they're going into phase two. So basically they took away some of their rail, which is all the way on federal runs. I'm sorry, it was all the way on newest one parallel to the train above and the underlying what they're calling now. And you see the buses. This is a dedicated lane just to the bus. And you see the sights. It's kind of like a trial for buses. And it's moving around effectively, efficiently, consistently people to and from jobs, school, and health centers. Because the population there is so large, there weren't able to be moving people around. And that's what they've come out. And they've been ahead of us, because I believe they've had the half penny tax for way over 20 something years, then Broward followed. So I think that as this evolves with all the partners in the county, you're gonna see more ways of effectively using transit. The goal for me as a policymaker will always be to push transit, whether I said here, sit elsewhere. How do people efficiently effectively, consistently, throughout the state, through all roads, not to do away with transit? Because we don't have enough roads to support that. So I think that, Broward might be that case, but that's not where a lot of the different, not only date, but in other parts of the state and in the country, they're moving towards kind of these BRTs that are running. And there are also some of them are multipurpose-lane. So you could switch them into like, at the heavy vehicles, they're like, either one way or you'd switch them off and they're, there are two ways. And then sometimes when the buses are not running as much, close them off to the pedestrians and the bicycle. Again, if we want to be innovative and visionary, we've got to think big and bold of how we're using our different transit systems. Sorry, I was just going to note as well, there is a place many Floridians go that some people term as magical, that I always find entertaining because it's an incredible place to see a true visionary, right? And, you know, people really complain about certain modes of transportation and they go and give large sums of money to do what? To get on a rapid transit bus, get on a gondola, get on a boat, get on a tram, get on a monorail, and go move because those they move hundreds of thousands of people daily. And I think, because I'm originally from the Midwest, and I go back home and there's just not the densities in the volume. So I think understanding South Florida and the volume of people that we will need to be moved over time and planning for that 2040. I do think looking at somebody who truly was visionary, it's not going to happen immediately, but understanding those elements is a good ideal of how to move a lot of people. There's also a lot of merchandise too, which is a visionary idea as well. Bokeh branding is necklace. Thank you. I'll know a couple things. So as far as any other comments regarding around TOCs, with our Bokeh Connect fleets, I would say we should increase our fleets with the bigger, you know, they're not the buses. Let's pray I would like to need the 60-foot radius, but they do carry 12 to 14 people. And, you know, similar to our shuttle program that we use now, but we can make it part of the Bocca Connect fleet. And I think, especially if we go out to Midtown and have a TOC out there. And I would also just keep, I know you already do it, but just to keep on the developers that they need to have the safe routes to the connect, to transit bike lanes and sidewalks that we already have, they need to be able to connect to what we already have. And it might be, might mean going a little further off of their property and I don't know how you do that, but a sidewalk to nowhere doesn't do anybody any good. A bike lane to nowhere doesn't do anybody any good. And I've ridden all the bike lanes around the city and yes, I've come into some of those high stress areas where I didn't know that the bike lane was ending. On airport road going north towards Glades from from Spanish River, I'll be on the north side and all of a sudden the bike lane ends, but then there's one little spot further ahead where you can cross the street and then keep going and on Palmetto Park Road when I was coming east to west. You know, I didn't realize I had to get over to the shared-use path on the south side and I ended up between the on and off ramps on Palmetto Park Road. So you know, just demanding that these communities are built with connectivity to our existing transit bike lanes sidewalks. And I know you already are doing that or starting to do that, but I'll just keep hammering at that. Certainly just two quick comments on that and one I was gonna bring her up earlier, but I think that incremental approach is pretty incredible. She's still around her name's Joy Puerta, but she was a zealot for modes of transportation long before it was cool and really implemented and just was absolutely tenacious about sidewalks and implemented elements where redevelopment even single-family homes had to do a sidewalk as they went and incrementally you got see built-out of sidewalk networks. So I do, it's a balancing act because I think there are certain elements that even we want to develop or to come in. We don't want to throw out the benefit that we get by wanting a whole and sometimes building it out piecewise is also a good way to have the private sector participate in those activities. So we try and delicately balance that, but I do think from a perspective, there's a challenge there. I did, it opens the opportunity to ask a question for counsel from a policy perspective is a lot of what I've heard is complete streets and the modes of transportation. And I think one of the elements that's very challenging for us is focusing on trying to do that everywhere or bifurcating those elements, right? When you look at how I95 has developed and our arterials and our minor collectors and then residential roadways, sometimes I do see staff struggling with focusing on trying to get a win everywhere, whereas we have the El Rio, and I think we have some of our shared use paths. And so getting getting right to the question is should we be focusing on connecting our network and trying to build that pedestrian bicycle network or trying to Build out the complete streets everywhere I've been spoken yet and could you put this slide five back up please because I didn't answer that question first Let me answer your latest one first. I think it goes back back to what we kind of agreed upon. I mean, what we have, I think we've got good bones with some of those things and what we've even heard with Ms. Nacklas's comment and others said we need to finish off the connectivity. I would finish off those and deprioritize new routes because we're still getting people on those primary routes and that you probably get better ROI there. Going back to this, I'd say it relates to, and I kind of lost the threat of the question because we kind of veered off many places. On TOCs, I think you're doing well. I think we're identified some of the other problems. I think it comes back to ROI, going back to even the point about the Boka Connect Downtown. We engaged in a pilot program. You said the opportunities for federal and state funding are drawing up, they may be. We had a win recently with $3 for $1 on our expansion here. I would look at ROI where you can. What other money can we get? And then what portion, how much do we have to spend for the number of people served, the number of businesses served, and what are alternatives there are? And because we got three for one, I was more swayed by that project. With the Boka Connect, like let's see where the data actually show, we'll have more of that feedback back because there's different things, different measures to employ, but they're all kind of solving the same thing. The vehicle may look different, but it's the same type of measurement and you can understand those things. Finally, it would be nice, you know, just as employers here participate in that shuttle. I think when we talked about Bokehneck now and we talked earlier on, it was trying to get the private sector to come on board. They did that with the downtowner. They didn't continue with the down counter, camp it through a lot of money at them, and they decamped. We're gonna have to evaluate the sustainability of our investment in something like that that competes with the private sector and really could use some private sector support. And just noting for those who might be not familiar, you're talking about the Tri-Rail connection with the combination of Palm Tran FDOT in the city city. I am. Thank you for your question. Thanks. Yeah. Mr. Thompson. The your most recent question related to the contrast between either finishing the existing trail networks, right? Or trying to get wins in the implementation of complete streets everywhere. Is that, did I understand that question more or less, right? That's correct. Okay. I agree that the trail network should be completed, but remember the whole point of complete streets is it's not simply for bicyclists or for, it's for everybody. The whole, complete streets are for everybody. They're for people pushing baby strollers or for people in wheelchairs. And while having a good and connected trail network is important, I don't want to lose sight of the importance of complete streets everywhere. And that's an accessibility thing too. We want every neighborhood to the extent we can. And I recognize that's an aspiration, but we want to have everybody have access to that, not just folks who are driving to a trail network to go ride their bike or to go run there. I would look for every neighborhood to have those kinds of elements everywhere. I know that's, again, an aspiration, but I don't want to lose sight of that because to me it's an accessibility thing and I want to have everybody have a chance to partake in that without having to go to a trail at some other part of the city. Can I just summarize real quick what I think I just heard Mr. Thompson is complete streets take a priority over the trail network? I'm not sure I would go quite that far. It is in completing the trail network is good, but I don't want it to be exclusive to the resources to be dedicated exclusively to that. And then for us to deemphasize or deprioritize The need for complete streets everywhere eventually right that's the goal and lead to enhance our complete street portfolio I'm put it that way. I would like to see our complete street portfolio be more robust And I'll summarize mine. I'm maybe the reverse of that. Or maybe it's similar, but I'll be more blunt. I would, if you have to prioritize between the two, I'm not saying 100% 0%, but I put the majority on the existing network, knowing that we already have complete streets in the queue that are planned for, that roll highway, a complete street project that's already in the queue and largely funded, correct? That's correct. So like that's the next expansion. If you're talking expansions beyond that, I think it's more where and how many people, but I know what like I feel like we have a little bit to do to finish off what's there That's where I would prioritize more. I don't know the percentage breakdown Between 51 and 100 if I had to decide. Point taken, yes. I thank you. Mr. Rock, oh please. Yeah, so we definitely don't have consensus. No, Mr. Rucker. We don't have consensus, because here we go again. The clarity has to go. So we adopted a Vision Zero policy that led to our first grant for safe streets for all that we're working with our Vision Zero Action Plan and Zach jump in because if I have the timing and correct, then we adopt a complete street policy and that a lot which in Vision Zero and the complete street policy why we got the additional $4.3 million. In order to continue on our grant journey and there is money that I know that one just open and I know we're not ready to apply because it's because we're we're at with our other grants There's still money there from federal government that's going to be getting in this is what we're making the improvements You have to go the other way Yes, I believe you have to connect the bike network of course that's that's a priority we've been speaking But you have to try to do complete street policy throughout the city that should be at the forefront because it should be for all. That's why it's called the state streets for all. It's for all people, whether you're on a bike, whether you're walking, whether you're in a wheelchair, whether you're in a stroller, whether you're in a dog stroller. So to protect all, so I think for me the vote would be continue. Go ahead. I apologize because I do want to add a point of clarification there and I think them Mayor picked up on it I didn't identify it from a complete treats policy perspective We've certainly not we're not moving away from that or backing off of it I think it's just as we're looking at at pursuing different projects from the city's perspective like from the developer perspective We're implementing complete streets when we go through the review process. We're looking at that, we're participating. I think it's from some reimagining some of our existing corridors. There's elements on the trail in our upcoming CIP projects and there are elements where staff has the opportunity to try and and do a remix on an existing corridor and I think that's more of the specific question I'm asking. Wait, Without knowing specifics, I think that any time that you're looking at a potential project or the trail for sure that we're building on the trail because we just approved town homes on the trail and people are using the trail to get people over the trail, absolutely pursue complete streets policy where we have. At the end of the day when you look at completeory policies or just in general is looking at cities that are all connected, the interweaving. And obviously it could take decades. It doesn't have to be done tomorrow. But I mean, that's very important that as you go through that process that you, for me, it is that you're looking for those areas to connect. Because that's just, and if I think you said it was a trail, was the first one that you I mentioned in another area or corridor and I know we have the north with six so we've kind of pushed off for a little bit or what And if I think you said it was a trail, was the first one that you mentioned in another area, or corridor, and I know we have the north with six, so we've kind of pushed off for a little bit, or what have you. But I mean, not knowing specific projects is hard to give you guidance. But from a policy perspective, I can tell you, oh, there they come. Sorry. I should have brought this slide up, we can. It's okay. I mean, again, I think that we're kind of saying the same thing, but I think the priority is try to identify where the complete, obviously, developers have to abide with what we, and we always approve projects. We try. We complete streets. We want the bike racks. We want the EV chargers. We have that. That is what we should do. We have that control. In terms of us, when we're going through these phases of things, then I would absolutely encourage us to follow the policy of the complete street policy wherever possible to connect the streets. Because in the end, that's what's going to lead us to hopefully vision zero and to people walking more and to people being less in their cars. I mean, I guess that's kind of where to all lead to in the end. And now I just jump in here with two things. One, Ms. Rucker just said, I think we're saying the same thing. And I like to hear from my other colleagues. I think the question that was asked was prioritizing between these two things. I think we are saying the same thing, but I'm not, I've been points of difference are not as clear to me. I'd say let's hear from everyone, maybe table that and get to the specifics of this and what the tradeoffs are, because I think that will add some clarity and focus. You might have asked us some pointed questions, but before we get into all of these, I would suggest why do we hear my colleagues want to apply on the last question, And then we take a short break and then come back to this. Sure. So with that, yeah. I think I guess maybe to say it another way and Zach, of course, you're already getting to it, which is I think we could be strategic about the shared use trail, connectivity projects that we're going to focus on. But we have a policy of safe streets for all. And my feeling, at least my recollection and understanding is that those projects where we're doing the safe streets, in terms of these specific projects that we're gonna be looking at, but in terms of even the private sector planning that at least my understanding is that, when Brandon and his team are looking at site plans for developers, it kind of requires kind of those safe streets for all and connectivity planning objectives in mind. and he's always trying to link this to the trail. How are we going to link this to the street? Hey. you know objectives in mind. And he's always trying to link. He's trying, okay, how are you going to link this to the trail? How are you going to link this to the streets? How are you going to prepare this? We had that discussion a couple months ago about the buffered sidewalk in a couple locations in the city because that's the right plan. The buffered sidewalk as opposed to like, you know, you have the two sidewalks on Yamato type thing where the counties policy kind of conflicted a little with our more safe streets for all and proper planning policy. So I do think that you could kind of have both but you need to be strategic about the connectivity and obviously you know I told you my thoughts you know eventually I'd love to see that the Hornley, Banyan, Military, Sugar Sand connection to happen and that's a strategic. Right? We got to get the people through there as opposed to Safe Streets for all. We want a policy where this is infused into what we do and developments are infusing into that or connecting into this methodology, not doing things quote the old way. So I hope that's helpful. Thank you. I agree, Mr. Ruggler. I don't think it's a, do you want this or this? I think it's strategy. You know, from the time I started on council, I said I would like to see more connectivity throughout the city. And I think it's a little confusion that El Rio Trail is not just for cyclists. I mean, there's, I probably see more people walking than biking on it. We see what we're on our bikes, we see those, but there's so many people who live in the neighborhoods over there, who live in the town homes over there, all the FAU students that walk back and forth, the screen some lights on it because they walk on it at, you know, all times at the night. And it's just a safe way, even for FAU students, if they want to get to the downtown having that connectivity would be another safe way for them to get downtown without having to get in their car and drive. Any, you know, anywhere. But as far as complete streets, I mean, I brought up, you know, as far as the neighborhoods go. And, you know, in particular for me, I always harp on 12th and Palmetto, like I would love to see complete streets there. First, you know, because of all the schools and because of all the people that walk to school. So I don't think it's one or the other. I do think it's prioritizing and strategizing and, you know, doing both of those things, but, you know, just we need to prioritize them. I want all of it, all of it. Does that give more clarity? I was there's clarity. But I think the elements that I have to couple of with is the IST funding is coming to an end. The transportation, the gas tax isn't what it once was. It's kind of plateaued. And I think it's almost beneficial that Greg went first because as much as I would like to say give public works all the money. There's public safety first. Obviously that's the city's highest priority. And I think from a recreation services perspective, there is some elements of deferred maintenance that we've balanced. So I think just a general note, obviously, you all haven't seen the CIP yet, but as we've responded to Council's input, the current budget, as we balanced out the things that I have staff working on, transportation mobility is moving upwards of 35, 40% of our overall project budget of MIX. And I think that's I think that's something where if we talk strategy and those things, I would love to do all of it now, but I think that's part of the reason I'm bringing up from a clarity perspective because there are, and this other phrase I don't get to take credit for, but somebody who was a long-term recreation services director from Rally stated, you know, public works doesn't get to say no, we just say yes to something else. So I think from that, we've got the blend of all the things that need to get done and that element from transportation mobility, it's very important. It's also important amongst the other things that are needed. I think you... Why don't we take a break before we get to the next slide? How's 10 minutes everyone? Or break just one more comment on connecting our trails. We should not, I'm not saying this is something to do this year or next year. This is down the road. We should not forget the possibility of connecting our trails by working with the like we're drainage district. There may be a possibility in the future that we can work something out so that we can revisit what we tried to do in the past and maybe actually make it happen. So that should just be on, we shouldn't forget about that possibility. All right, 10 minutes everyone. And then because we're, this is our last subject and we're nearing the home stretch, right, Trina? Yes, I need some time to wrap up. Very well. I think all right. 10 minutes everyone. We'll be back. Thank you. I'm gonna go back to the old town. I'm gonna go back to the old town. I'm gonna go back to the old town. I'm gonna go back to the old town. 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We're trying to get the three. Yeah. So I think we left off before the transition to bring up a slide. And it did have just a time to reflect on it. I think important, as we talked about, not getting into the weeds, it's not a CIP discussion and it's not a project specific prioritization discussion, but I think an important note just from the perspective of there are some large potential capital expenditures to move our strategy forward. And noting that from our strategic perspective, the downtown campus master plan is the top priority that is our focus. And I think staff is certainly honoring the fact that there are going to be expenditures and capital improvements that are vital to making that project a success. And then also just noting Jeffrey Street as that project as well. So those are kind of given from the perspective of projects that staff are moving forward. And then there's the others. So we had the historical Palmado Park Road walkability. I had brought up previously that staff has shifted focus to the campus master plan. And then the phases of the fourth and fifth avenue. And I think the reason why I want to highlight that project is because as we see the overall road network capacity and the development of the campus, similar to how staff kind of envisioned Brightline, the use and the capacity of Brightline didn't happen instantaneously. We've seen it develop over the years as more people and the ridership has increased. So I think as staff looks at that fourth and fifth avenue corridor, it's something where as the network is now considering the campus master plan, that's going to be an important corridor as part of that project. So I wanted to bring it up, but just also identify there's a major component to balance of our overall capital improvement. And then vision zero. I think there is going to be something where in the event that federal funds remain available, that's something where staff will certainly pursue that as a strategy, but if that's not as much of an availability, we will have the action plan that identifies certain capital projects or potential elements that come out of it and staff will have to balance that with the many other needs of the Department and then we also have the East West connectivity the El Rio Trail Spanichover underpass and then Previously staff brought forward through the bike and ped-Ped board a list. I think the total number was somewhere around $120 million of various improvements over time that when we looked at the overall comprehensive picture. Now that would be over like a decade or multiple decades program, but I just wanted to note because sometimes we hear from residents, okay, well, why isn't it happening now? Pointing out that there are significant numbers of priorities in the balance and that part for discussion. So I think, what's the question? I think the policy direction is from staff's perspective. We have our eye on the ball were focused on the downtown campus master plan and really the strategic projects and also incorporating our maintenance as we go forward. So some of these other projects may have to be pushed out a year or reprioritize in order to make sure we have full focus on those that are the top priority. May I just start with some questions for you, Mr. Behr? Yes. Because I asked you during the break when I saw this stat. This Palmetal Park Road line item here, this is talking about if some of the ideas that have been suggested by that resident and developer group, if all of those got incorporated that way with the undulating road and the one lane in each direction, that's this price tag, right? Well, that was a full on where back even before that have a full deconstruction and reconstruction of Palmetto Park Road with utility relocations and a substantial change. That was a number from previously that has been carried forward. And so, But if we did, what staff has been suggesting, which is shrinking the laneage, expanding the median, doing other things to slow the traffic, there's a much lower cost for this, am I right? Yeah. Generally speaking, yes, there would be a significant reduction in the overall cost of the project. Right. Two more questions. One, when you said, is there a specific place you meant area of topic, non-geography, right? Oh, sorry. We haven't got to that question yet, but that specific question was, as we kind of bounce around, we answered a little bit was, when the intent of that question was, is there a specific place where transportation mobility should be a strategic focus? I think the staff's question was, is it bike focused? Is it pedestrian focused? Is it maintaining our signals and working on our moving people and intersections and our enhancements in AI and those things? All of it, staff fully recognizes that all of it is critically important. The vision zero task is important. But is there any area where there's a focus on the prior, again, prioritization? Any one of those elements that staff should identify when given the choice that is of the most priority. And I think I have the answer for the downtown, which is pedestrianism and that pedestrian walkability is the top priority in the downtown. And then May I ask you a question, and turn around, May I ask one more question then? You had mentioned before we broke that these mobility plans are starting to be up to 40% of our CIP. What's a benchmark from what we used to use and what's a benchmark from where you think it would be? And I know that you have to, you're not advocating so much for your department, you're trying to manage everyone's needs. That Mr. Sieve, it might give a different answer. So what are some benchmarks we might, you know, for his department, what are some benchmarks we might look at? because that sounded high to me and I was getting, I thought your point was, it's starting to be a higher number certainly than it was. Yeah, great question. So I think generally historically in the past, it ebbed and flowed, but I would say a rough estimate would probably be about five to eight percent of the overall budget. So we had our traffic improvements and our other areas where we would pursue TPA grants and those things. And I think as the initiative has come forward, staff has put in an additional investment. And I think there's, that's a challenge where what's the right number? I think it's a balance because when we talked about that discussion about maintenance and making sure that we're staying up on our maintenance. There are things similar to what Greg pointed out. It's not always the most attractive thing to go after, but mass storms, our signal technology, our detection, ped crossings, are striping. We constantly get feedback about making sure our striping is refurbished and managing that program. So I think from that overall perspective, there's a balance over time and from the overall percentage, I think from some of the things from maintenance needs, my limited perspective on that from the public works perspective is, I think it's at its upper limit because there's a lot of other maintenance activities that are all very important as well. All right. So now to answer your question and then turn it around. You weren't asking for geographic place. You were asking more concept and you recognized that all of it is important whether it's cars, signalization, artificial intelligence, striping, pedestrian biking. I think it's all important. For me, it's going to come back to SWOT and ROI. We, I think, are doing well even with our federal grant and our own pilot on AI for traffic signals. And I'm thinking about the number of complaints we get and also the number of drivers, the number of people affected. Like, that seems to be a very good ROI to continue to use artificial intelligence on our system of 140 signals and to continue to try to move traffic that way because that addresses the concerns and also ties into how we, you know, I know that we have to do more of that now with more pedestrian. So we have to better time our lights. I think that helps for those pedestrian and bicycling goals too, as people are hitting the button. And for... with more pedestrian, so we have to better time our lights. I think that helps further those pedestrian and bicycling goals too, as people are hitting the button. And then it goes back to SWAT too. What are, where do you get the ROI and what are the strategic benefits? Each of those things? It's hard for me to say, you can't say it's only pedestrian, it's only traffic, it's only cars, it's only bicycles, it's all of them. So I would say you look at where we are, current usage, where we want to go as a trend, and what are the problem areas and where you solve them. And I'd say you identified maintenance concerns, I'd say then, obviously we have to maintain before we add new or have a lean if that's how it goes, you know lean more on the main maintenance unless something's high in a strategic priority like you know jeffery street it's new but it's also something that had been tried had been sought to do for 50 years and the the North Federal Highway Corps are going back 20 years so it's it's rounding that out that's I hope that helps somewhat it It does, yes. All right, thank you, Mr. Rucker. Thank you, Mayor St. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So just so we're clear, the reason why these numbers are high is because we hadn't done anything any years towards vision zero or towards bike lanes or to striping or transdilinators. So we're making up for 30 years of literally not doing anything to help this cause. I don't think five years before I was on the council, we've been talked about bike lane, shared bike lanes, striping of bike lanes. I mean, none of that was there. So I think that we as a city, as we push forward with Districts of Georgia priority, there's going to be money that has to be spent and on public safety just to get us to a better place because it's never gonna get to the top of the top because there's always new improvements. The moment you've done the adaptive technology signal, then there's more. For example, with the pedestrian, there are areas where they're censored. Like when you walk up to a, you don't have to touch the button. It feels you, it's coming. It starts changing the lights. I would love to see something like that. I've talked about this here before with the railroad safety. I would love to see there, there's a lot of technology around railroad safety where it gives you the countdown just like you do a pedestrian crosswalk. And in our big intersections, that would help save cars, save lives and potentially save trains from hitting each other because you would get the counter where I would say you know 40, 30, 25, 10 seconds stop you know I know it's sounds very common sense but still people stop on the tracks and they're still trying to beat the rail and they're still getting you know in front of the trains and causing issues So I think that the number is high and obviously we always have to balance the maintenance is super important to have good infrastructure and maintenance, but we are really playing catch up in a lot of these areas. I also want to go back to something you said about Palmetta Park Road and you keep saying we're not going to do this, we're not going to do this, but Mayor Singer I really want us to be able to look that we have not as a council given direction as to what we want. We looked at two options and there was going to be built-outs, there was going to be things that were going to be demonstrated to this council. So I don't agree with you on that. So I want to make sure and I want to state it on the record because I think that by you saying that you handicap the people that are actually planning the specs of the world that are actually trying to give us the big picture. Whether we go there or not, I think it's important when we're spending taxpayer dollars that we look at all these options. And if we are already handicapping what the product is going to look like, then we should not be working with any of those individuals. And we should just leave it as it is. So if we want to be bold, we want to be visionary, we need to have them do their job, how they're going to connect the downtown campus to Palmetto Park Road and that whole area holistically without us saying, well, we're going to do this and we're going to do that because we as a council haven't agreed on that. At least I haven't. So I want to be very clear to staff and maybe other people can weigh in that everything is on the table. We have an amazing opportunity to look at the downtown and redefine what that looks like without putting such parameters around it. And that's why it goes to my beginning of the earlier in the day of this area that now in the downtown we're playing defense to go back to our sports analogies. And here we have an opportunity to play offense to do it right, to be proactive, to start looking at the areas so that we're not playing the defense that we're playing now in the downtown. So I really think that it's either a workshop or it has to be, and I don't want another workshop, but I don't, I keep hearing, well, we don't want this, and we don't want that, and we don't do that, but we is not I. So I wanna make sure that everybody understands where I'm coming from. We need to look at that area. Obviously, we have to make sure that it's safe, that we can get people in and out, that we can work with other partnership areas that we have the input from the residents. But things like this are being done throughout Florida, throughout neighboring cities, throughout the country, and people are being evacuated safely. People are riding their bike safely, walking safely. So I don't want us to put any kind of, we're not gonna do this because that just defeats the whole purpose of what we're paying these planning companies to do. So I just wanna get on the record on that. Mr. Waker, thank you. I guess to put it a different way, I think we need to be strategic about where we're doing these things. And to the point is downtown, we are focusing on projects that are more walkable, that are more connected. That's a focus. And let's call it the other more suburban sectors, we're focusing more on AI and more on traffic management, more on the things that are more dependent on AI, right? Moving the people in the Northern sector in a good traffic pattern, like you and I were talking about before, is more dependent on the technology that we're doing than it is in terms of the specific pedestrianism things on Yamato Road, for example. It's moving 30,000 cars each way every hour. That's like, or daily, that's the key at Yamato Road. But downtown, the focus is on the walkability, the pedestrianism. And to Mr. Tucker's point, we've spent now years with ALTA and now we've engaged spec to work on a reasonable plan. I'm not going to speak for the bear, but what I hear is that we need to do something reasonable given the reality of the situation. You have people that are going to use cars. You have thousands of people that live on the beach that need to get west. And we could do a lot of beautification. We can do a lot of traffic coming without complete lane elimination that can get us 80% of the way there without significant disruption. and we're really hoping that Alta and Speck can work on it. So to put it back, I think we're asking to hit a double. So we're asking for doubles and doubles drive runs, and we can do that. I think we can do that downtown. We can hit a double. And uptown with AI, single, more single, more singles, right? AI, get those lights to work. So I think we're getting there, but different places do require different things. And I do agree, I think we're moving in the right direction and again these are multi-year right have been planning for two years the implementation of them will also take several years just as will the construction of our downtown campus so you know we do have some years to kind of continue to work on this and plan appropriately in the CIP but I think you know on the strengths and really the uses of those areas is going to dictate how the capital dollars are spent there. Thank you, Mayor Singer. Mr. Beard, the downtown east-west connectivity that's over federal and Dixie to the downtown campus or is or is that the pedestrian bridge we've talked about what is yeah the east west connectivity is generally south southern limits of Palmello and up to the Brighton Line Station and I think it's now that the campus master plan has come forward with a concept I think it's more kind of concrete it's more it's more formalized than it was previously of how we connect, but ultimately that's really to connect the two halves of the downtown across Dixie and the Tracks and Federal. OK. OK. Yeah. Your question here is there a specific place where it should be a strategic focus. I mean, obviously, I think the downtown, the master plan. And for me, the El Rio Trail underpass, it's Spanish River, I think that's a really a potential life saver for that. So probably what I would put at the bottom of the list, which I think you already have, is the fourth, fifth, sixth. Even though I'd like to see that done, for me that's at the bottom of what you have here. And I agree with Ms. Drucker, with ALTA, when they came and they presented, I was underwhelmed. And I set it at the time. This is what's being presented, then I'd rather do rather do nothing than keep going down this road. So I think when they come back, and I think they're coming back in October, is our next update? Is that correct? OK. OK. I would like to see more options. I would like to see what they come back with. And then we decide whether we do the lane with reductions and do angled parking or moving parking or we have a parking garage somewhere else that can handle the parking and what Mr. Beard gave presentation why roundabouts wouldn't really work because we don't really have that width, but are there what other traffic coming things we can do? And if we have to move light poles and different infrastructure to make sidewalks wider and put street trees in there, so you know, I hear all the time that it's just there's no shade walking on Palmetto. So we have to get those street trees in there and I don't think that we can put them in there now. So we have to make the sidewalks wider. But when they come back, I would like to see what our options are and more than what they've already done. And I think the Vision Zero, the improvements that we're going to be trying to achieve with Vision Zero, I think with everything else, you know, all these other things will be adding to our Vision Zero action plans. So, you know, whatever that number is going to be, I think a lot of these encompass our Vision Zero plans. So, there's a chance. I think the question right here is, is there a specific place where transportation mobility should be a strategic focus? Are we allowed to introduce recognizing on the one who's asking any additional places beyond these or are you just asking about these? I think we're just asking about those, but certainly this is the opportunity we're taking any feedback. If there is something that you've identified, I absolutely. I think for the reasons you've identified earlier as it relates to potential funding decreases in Tri-Rail, that the bus and palm tram hubs, so to speak, that we have in the city might be worth looking at in terms of what a strategic focus might be for our mobility. So you would put on the map earlier the mall as an example, I think that is something worth exploring further. Specifically to that, thoughts from other council members on that as a thing for staff to evaluate. Could I get a clarification? What would you see the evaluation consisting of and what would we do potentially? It does go back in some bit to the potential for a TOD there. there, but becomes a, if, say in the future, try rail is less reliable or available because of funding shortfalls or whatever, and buses need to be more commonly used by folks to come to work in town, we may need to accommodate for that. And I'm not sure I know exactly what that looks like, but if you're looking at an increase in folks using that versus trial rail to come into town and work, I wanna be able to say that we looked at what that could do to that part of town in ways that we could mitigate any impacts that it'll have. And really that's a good opportunity. I did have it on here and we've talked about other things, but one of the questions from staff as we put together the overall citywide transportation plan. I didn't want to bring that to Council too soon because really that's a heavy technical document, right? The transportation planners and engineers and getting together and say, what's our overall need? What does that look like and then present that? But certainly good input from the perspective of that's a great opportunity to add that in for them to go back to staff to say, look, this is an evaluation. And even from the bus perspective of what it was to now things that I've seen with automated rapid transit and those elements where just because it has wheels, you know, it is, it has the connotations of a bus, but future transportation as an option. So noted, we can certainly evaluate that as part of the citywide transportation plan. When will you be reporting out on that citywide transportation plan? So we're looking forward to having a work order here in the next month or so to come before council. And then I will have to evaluate what the current dates look like. But it's my understanding that the county is anticipating getting real feedback by the beginning of 2026. And so our timeline with the consultant is to coincide with that. So generally speaking later, I would say late in the calendar year 2025, we're anticipating to coordinate with the manager's office to present information to council. So the point of inquiry is this, Zach, is this to connect into the I-PARC, into the the master planning exercise without it It's in relation to when you said in relation to the county with the counties Oh, so they sorry the county put out an RFP and selected WSP for their county wide transportation Right, so our goal is as our understanding is they're gonna go out to each one of the municipalities Right and get input But I think our goal is to be a bit more sophisticated and just input is really have some true planning document to say, look, these are our real needs and kind of put something down on paper to provide a concrete plan for the county to incorporate into their county wide transportation plan. Got it, I agree 100%. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I'm not sure where we landed. We've talked about a lot of different things. I've got little notes on different ideas. I don't, I'm not entirely certain where we've landed. Mr. Mr. Beer, what are you, do you think you know where we've landed and what are we on clear on? I think, and did you, well, I have a lot of really valuable information. I certainly feel like I have direction for the, from the council for those areas. I think from those questions that we've asked, I guess I could repeat back some of the things I've heard, which is from a priority perspective, or at least I guess some of you summarize and see if we can work off that, which is prioritize specific to the districts or regions, I won't call it districts, but regions where the transportation need is the greatest. So going from the downtown first, which I think gets our heaviest focus from all the needs of transportation and really highlighting the walkability in that area and looking at those options. And I didn't, I do want to take that from the downtown to make a note about Palmetto. I regret even putting that back up on the slides again. But I think we, I'm not saying we've shifted our focus away from that, but we've shifted our focus to the downtown campus master plan. And additionally, staff is looking at Maizner Boulevard. So we're looking at a protected intersection at Maizner Boulevard and we're looking some other enhancements because I think to the mayor's point, I think we can actually get wins there. So I do want to note to, you know, from, that's all to, so they're doing that additionally, and I don't want to take away from them as well, because it's not like... I think we can actually get wins there. So I do want to note to, you know, from, that's all to, so they're doing that additionally, and I don't want to take away from them as well because it's not like they're not producing on Palmetto, staff has redirected them as something where we can focus on, and they're also working on putting a pedestrian signal right there at Louis Vossie, and evaluating that with those safety enhancements. So I do want to give them time to work on those things before we come back in and then go and change that unless from the City Council, that's not what they should be doing. They do have direction in those areas and I think those are big wins from a safety walkability and pedestrian. Then as we go out into the call it mid regions, our trails, our connectivity, and looking in those pathways to try and get people into the, call it the mid portion of town, or in between sub and sub urban, and then out in the western portion, where significant residential areas are focused on moving the vehicles and focusing on our corridors and those type of things. So I do have some general direction as the different areas where staff should be focused, and it did make sense. Does everyone agree that that's where we're going? Okay. Okay. That's my answer. Okay. Well, I've got a nod and a yes and a nod and a maybe and a maybe. Okay. It's okay. It's okay because we at least we have a bit of consensus and this is what I heard you say. Prioritize a focus on regions where the needs are greatest. Downtown is number one. Is that correct? Yes and that aligns with our top priority which is the campus master plan. Trails and connectivity in the mid and then the western regions would then be next? Or yes and? That's correct. Okay, that's a good summary on that one. Okay, is there anything else for transportation and mobility? Would you like me to just for continuity of the rest of the slides, we talked about the TOC and then we talked about the remainder of the strategic priority TM2, which are the elements supporting our transportation mobility. I think we covered everything unless there's anything else there for input. All right. Okay, so... So if I could ask for a 10 minute break to put my recap together, I've finished it for yesterday. I'd like to discuss with my team. We'll come back and I will recap. At least I believe I have transportation and mobility set, but I want to just add anything that my team has to offer. And then I'll do a recap. All right. Is that okay? 10 minutes. Thanks. 10 minutes. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. Thank you. 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I'm gonna go back to the old town. I'm gonna go back to the old town. I'm gonna go back to the old town. I'm gonna go go to the bathroom. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. Thank you. you you you you you you you I'm going to go back to the next slide. Trina, we'll turn it back to you for your recap. Okay. Today was well spent. We got some good conversation. I think we've got some good direction. I think staff got to provide some input for you and you provided input for them and that was really part of our purpose for this workshop. So if yesterday's theme was more data, better use of technology and cutting edge tools, today's themes are get more data, ROI and connectivity. Those are the words that we got out of today. So I'll start with Campus Master Plan because that's what we started yesterday and I'll tell you where we landed and what we think we heard on a big broad basis. So overall, this Campus Master Plan ought to provide a visionary plan where it's a destination for all. It's a holistic approach to integrate the entire community. It should focus on suitability, sensibility, and responsibility. In 10 years, this should be vibrant, walkable, multimodal with tangible measures for residents, businesses, and visitor happiness. Good summary so far. OK. A workshop is needed for further dialogue. And what we got out of it is that the staff needs to provide options to achieve the vision that I just laid out and make recommendations for each option presented. Did I get that right? So I want to ensure everyone sitting here, but also the people listening and watching, that this is not a commentary on the current state. This is our future state. The staff is talented and dedicated and loyal, and I'm going to continue to say those, there's basically four words that I have said and will continue to say about staff. So these conversations are not a judgment call on how we're doing now. This is about where are we going? This is about how do we use this talented staff and the funds that you get to really create this destination holistic approach to integrating the entire community. In order to do that, we started to then talk about these seven strategic focus areas and what are the outcomes or targets that we're looking to accomplish? So again, if we ported you forward and we're all standing as a group of people at brick or lurp or Palmetto Park in US one, can we look back and say we nailed it. is what we said we wanted and staff did it. So those seven areas include world class services. So in terms of world class services, we talk about implementing tech tools, to create a service that's reliable, responsible, efficient, accessible, convenient while increasing the importance of customer focus and human touch points. That's what we got out of world-class services. Did I miss anything there. When we talk about financially sound, what we're looking for is to properly plan for growth, prepare for legislative changes that may be unpredictable. We want to sustain financial fitness through future growth with the ability to be agile and pivot when needed. I get that right. We also talked about vibrant economy. We talked about vibrant economy. We talked about using more better data, more and better data to drive decision making, provide market forecasting data. So not just looking at where we've been, but what's the future going to look like? What's what a society say is happening out there. So market forecasting data about prosperous markets and then we can adjust the decisions that we make here in Boka to accommodate those future trends. So this isn't just about small businesses. There's a focus on building the brand to focus on HQs and businesses with higher paying jobs who can employ more people. But understand that those getting out of college or moving back here to live also need to be able to afford to live or complain to city. Is that a good description of the future of vibrant economy? One thing, you said prosperous markets. I think we were talking, at least I was more about prosperous industries or industry clusters. Okay. Okay. Today we talked about growth management and the summary that in the few minutes I was able to put some things down, this is what we got out of it. The city would like to use a balanced approach. So when I summarized balanced approach, what I think we're talking about is walkability and pedestrianism downtown connecting to other parts of the city with considerations for car ownership because that isn't going away. We also are going to consider 150,000 commuters who commute into Boca to work. And then potentially use APOC as a model for those communities that potentially could copy something like that, identify areas where no growth is needed. about. And allow Palmetto Park to be altered near downtown with the understanding that people will still use it to drive. What am I missing? I would just say take out the number 150,000 commuters, say commuters and visitors. They're not all commuters, and it's not necessarily 150 and the number is less relevant to the order of magnitude. Got it. Okay. Anything else in growth management? Okay. When we talked about quality of life, what we got out of it on a big picture level is quality of life starts in neighborhoods and where we enhance livability. Public safety is number one, so that's the most important thing to everybody. Clean safe neighborhoods that are accessible and connected that have all the amenities as suitable for that area. Good schools and access to that, including the walkability to it. So sidewalks where needed that are safe. And then another area of quality of life that matters to the city of Boka is quality government services. Using listening posts and mechanisms for the community to inform the staff and the council for those quality decisions, such as surveys, such as when you're out and about and the constituent stop you and tell you things. Health and well-being included in quality of life, including mental health, is consideration as you think about decisions. Another big component of quality of life is recreation and how recreation influences the quality of life. We talked about big things and small things, but even things like accessibility to food and drinks in the park, which is important for kids who are, you hopefully, using the parks more. And then finally, the quality of life is a feeling. Quality of life is a feeling that Boka is different. There's a sense of place here that isn't in other areas. Did I miss anything in quality of life? I would also say that recognizing that the health and well-being of our municipal workforce across departmentally is critical to the city's continued vibrancy and quality of life as well. So health and well-being and mental health of the community and the staff. Yes. Entire municipal workforce. Yes. Okay. Okay. We wrapped up the day with transportation and mobility. This is what I think we heard. Downtown is the number one focus. Focus on walkability in the downtown area, and then in the suburban sections, use tech and AI mechanisms to move people around safely. Finish connectivity, no change to the TOC, keep doing what you're doing, use data to consider whether to bigger the bulk of connect fleet. or fifth and sixth is a lesser priority, but complete streets and the trail network are high priorities. Those are yes and not either or. And then connectivity in the mid and western regions of Boka to focus on sidewalks and finally, Alta needs to provide more better quality options. What am I missing? Just one clarification because we had our free interviews, we got tripped up on TOC. When you said TOC, continue what you're doing, I think what I hear you saying is we've identified to strategic a lot of work done. I've been trying to get a lot of work done. I've been trying to get a lot of work done. I've been trying to get a lot of work done. I've been trying to get a lot of work done. I've been trying to get a lot of work done. I've been trying to get a lot of work done. Once remember Thompson added, forced- Is that what you meant? Is that what I meant? Yes, I think the only thing that I would add to that is councilmember Thompson added for staff to evaluate as part of the citywide transition plan the potential for a third TOC in the midtown area. Just to hit all our bases. And may I just on that because we actually didn't come back around. I think it's about just the quality that I would say evaluate. I would suggest we start with just understanding the ridership, the bus networks there. We, we, we, a midtown plan was for sake in 2018. And when we were looking at affordable housing, we had someone close to there suggest their unit count, but it was too high and we put it in the back burner. I've not heard back from them. So I wouldn't say, for me, I think it's an inquiry stage, not a head-deliver results by the next year and have a TOC plan. Is that fair to say, Mr. Thompson? That sounds about right. While also taking into account, staff has views on these things or recommendations for us. Is that fair to say Mr. Thompson? That sounds about right while also taking into account if staff has views on these things or recommendations for us I would want to know that yes. Fair. Yep that's understood for us and what we're supposed to from staff. Okay all of those can I want to ask one comment yes. What did you say about the tech and AI? Did you say only in the suburban areas? Not in downtown? No. Well, to focus on tech and AI in the suburban areas to move people around safely. I mean, I think it should be a focus throughout the whole city, not just the suburban areas. Yes. Let's continue to to use the tech and AI that we're using and find more. Citywide. And all of this is encompassed and sort of encircled by community safety, which is by far the highest rated thing in your survey, of the highest rated response in your survey, it's the thing that Boca is known for, it's the foundation of all of these other things working well. And so as you, as council, start to make decisions that are future focused, you're going into your budget workshops, as you look at things that are future focused, all of those decisions are predicated on the things that are the most safe for the city. So as that presentation was moving forward, we heard things like we have to accommodate for growth. We heard things like we already measure so many things around safety and To continue to let the council know what they need to increase safety for the Businesses residents and communities that work here, and I don't think that's any different from what they already do and so again as we've heard these themes for today and yesterday, staff makes recommendations. It's part of their job. And so, as we move forward, we need to just tell them the type of recommendations that they're looking for and that you're looking for so that they can be efficient in the work that they do and the research that they look for to provide you with those recommendations. But they do that really well. They're super smart and what I have found is the staff that's here have been here. I mean, you have staff that's grown up here. You have so much institutional knowledge and history in the people who can provide you with the knowledge that you need for the decisions that you make to hit that vision in 2035 and 2050. So that's super exciting. And different, by the way, than most cities where we go. That is something to capitalize on and very exciting. I want to bring up, if it's okay with you all, can I bring up something that's probably, it's quick five minute thing, it's not up for discussion, but it's something that's going to be a little bit difficult for me. Is that okay? Okay, so if you'll flip the slide forward. Okay, so this is a friendly reminder because we are in other cities. And here's what we have found, especially this time of year, as all municipalities have the same fiscal year. And so they too are wrapping up strategic planning. They're walking into their budget period, knowing that we have the same level of instability because of legislative changes that we do not know about yet. And so there's a lot of, there's things you've talked about, there's things that Mr. Beer talked about that we just don't know yet. And so as you walk through that, what we see in other cities is that when we make midstream changes, it could be during the budget process, it could be halfway through the next cycle. But when a council, not necessarily you all, but when a A council or a commission makes a midstream change. It gets misaligned with the priorities that have been decided in the workshop that they just had. And so we've now been working with executive teams to try to reconcile those unintended issues because the councils have great intentions. And they want their staff to do everything. And listen, you have a great staff, and when you ask for those things, they're on it right away. And they do them. What I want to just make a friendly reminder around is that the priorities that you set are feasible within the capacity and the constraints of the city. If that changes, then there are just unintended shifts and changes that potentially, and again, in other cities we've watched this happen, that the staff has to pivot, and so they have to reallocate labor and resources. There's an increased cost as those midstream requests have require reallocating budget or canceling things that are already part way completed. There's delays in service delivery and again we've seen that and we've had to deal with in other cities, some complaints from the community. And then again, as you've talked about the importance of those regional and state partnerships, we don't want that to get impacted as well. And we've watched that happen. So it's just a friendly reminder. Next slide, please. I'd like to do this slide, and then I would like to find out if there are things we have not talked about that we should have talked about from any of the council members. So this is, you saw this graphic yesterday, this is what we've completed and what we did in year two in terms of your contract with us. We've added some things to show you what the transition is. Should we be asked to come back for your three? Our immediate next steps are to get you a final report that will happen in May. In June, you can adopt the strategic plan that leads you into those budget process workshops. And again, I want to just praise you for being here. These are long days. There's lots of discussion to be had. There's huge, huge impacts to the projects that you have going on in the city right now. The staff's enthusiastic. I'm personally very excited about the things that you have going on. I can't wait to come back and stand on that corner in 2035. And so because they are dedicated and loyal and talented and intelligent, they're on cross-functional teams. and they are learning what they need to learn from on cross-functional teams and they are learning what they need to learn from those cross-functional levels of knowledge that one person doesn't have because they are great at one thing. So when engineering shares with finance and engineers weren't quite even sure how that worked and when the utility director shares with other departments the impacts of the decisions that get made and while Mr. Stevens and Mr. Beer and Mr. Shad work together constantly, sometimes the functional areas down in their organizations don't always know what's happening. And so these cross-functional teams are starting to learn about other areas of the city. And that's, again, allowing the city to be more intelligent as they make offers and recommendations to you. So those are our most immediate next steps. So I would like to just wrap up with this question. What are we not talking about that needs to be talked about? What are your key takeaways? No, it wasn't that close to you. Okay, I have one topic that we can talk about at some point, but there was an employee survey done and I'm not sure we ever got a complete you know wrap up from that and just wondering you know what the less I'm wrong but I don't think we all ever got a complete wrap up from that and I just would like to know what what areas we can improve on and if there's anything that the council needs to do or provide council with a follow-up report. Yes, we will provide a follow-up report. Okay. I thought we had but if we have not we will. Okay. Awesome. Thank you Yeah, I think we we talked about the government campus master plan at length, but a very important subsector when we're talking about 2035 that we've talked about tangentially is where our municipal workforce and our senior staff, where are they physically? Meaning are they all in the same exact place as downtown? I know that our consultants have began to work on options of a complete just replacement or a temporary relocation. And obviously one of the things that we talked about is a bifurcation potentially about putting just critical items downtown. But there'll be a downtown workshop that we're gonna know about, maybe as part of that workshop or potentially even as separate workshop is what is the future of our senior municipal workforce? What does that look like physically? Where are those services being delivered? Are they all just happening downtown? And of course, there's the financial ramifications of such that we're evaluating in our due diligence. So we really didn't talk about those high level discussions that I think are critical. And to Ms. Nockis's point, yes, too, in terms of employee satisfaction wellness, some other specific issues we'll have to talk about at another time. Lastly, one of the things that we really, tangentially that we talked about that might have to be brought up in the future is you know this is the 100 year anniversary of our city so we have a charter that's 100 years old and you know I've looked about this at other cities and of course the state of Florida has its own charter review commission or constitutional review commission in terms of the state. But the question is, now that we're 100 years old, should there be some charter review? Should there be something, a modernization of our government documents? I haven't thought about it too much. There was this situation of changing the terms last before we were elected. And maybe that's something that should be considered. Maybe for the future that the staggered terms should be four years apart, not to affect current terms of maybe in the future something something we think about but really structural is there time for certain charter review things and this might be something Mr. Kailer or something you know there were some things that we might need to clean up or just modernize an ancient government document I haven't thought about it I'm just thinking out a lot about it that it might be a future topic that's saying hey hey, it's 100 years, maybe we should be looking at this, are there ways to improve, for I'm talking about technology, but there are ways to improve our governing documents, maybe more of a legal question in a policy consideration. But something that I do think, I'd love for my colleagues to think about at some point, and bring it up again, because there are some important things we really just scratch the surface on over the course of many, many years. Okay. Maybe we need to talk more about. No, did. Anyone else? I'll just add, just on those last two points, I know we're going to talk about it in short order. So it's not a 2035. It's a some point in second quarter second quarter 2025 our short term campus needs I just noted that all of the lease proposals there give us an upper bound roughly in the same amount of square footage we might consider a lease structure that has less as we find we don't have to move everyone and that you know I know we're still that's an ongoing thing on the charter that's know, in my time here, I propose several charter amendments. I think they've gone through. I don't see a need. Our charter is not 100 years old, by the way, but I think we're on our eighth or ninth. But I don't see the need for wholesale change. I will note that on terminal, I have no desire to bring that up again, but it is physically impossible to change the length of a term without impacting an incumbent, because someone has to fill that extra year, unless you have a new election for just one year only, which really kind of defeats the purpose. There's, and then you have a double election instead of less. So, that's just a technical thing, but if a charter review commission comes forward in the future, that's something to love the way. That is not what I think that's a one-off, and I think our charter has some foibles, but I'm not pushing that now. Mr. Brown, did you want to add anything? Because I knew you wanted to share some comments. Just a few comments since this is probably my, well, it is my last strategic planning session in this present role. This is my 30th strategic planning session. Going back, we started in 1995. And it's interesting that some of the challenges that the city faced in 1995, we still face traffic, cost of improvements, maintenance of our facilities, which part comes first, all those kinds of questions. And I think those will remain the questions at the city faces. We are incredibly fortunate as a municipality. I'm very serious about that. I travel all over the state and communicate with other people in the management professions. They have problems that we would just we would shutter to think that we had to deal with those problems. We do not. We deal with small problems. My joke with folks in the industry and the state and around the nation is our concerns are the size of real estate sites. That's one of our biggest concerns. It was at one point in the past. And I just want to say, you know, I feel very lucky to have worked with the team that's here, the team that was here before, the collaboration between elected officials and the incredible staff that you have. So rely on them, support them in the future. And I'm just thinking back, I've looked around, I am the oldest person in the room. I don't feel like it, but I am. And I've spent two thirds of my years in Booker's home. And they have been great. And I know they will be great in the future. This isn't a retirement speech that comes later. This is just I wanted to say in the context of strategic planning. This is always interesting. There's always a lot of dialogue and what it does I think is it informs all of us about what we're thinking about and it puts it plants seeds for people to think about something in the future, perhaps, or that, hey, we really have come a fairly long way. Let's say with mobility in the past five years, we've done a lot. We have a lot more to do, but we've done a lot. In terms of being our customer service, I think, from the time that I started with the city to now, we Improved incredibly in terms of our ability to communicate with the public and share information with them So thanks all for listening to me. It was just I wanted to share a few thoughts. Thank you Great perspective Okay, I will toss the ball back to you. Thank you. If no council members have any other comments and no staff following the lead Mr. Brown because he said it very well. Then on behalf of the council I'll say thank you for us to our hardworking staff who's out there every day. Thank you for insights today and all 365 days of the year. We look forward to continued partnership with you to serve our residents and thank you Transavations for helping facilitate If there's nothing further to come before us, we're adjourned at 4.02 good afternoon Thank you. I'm going to be a little bit more careful. Thank you. I'm going to do it. Thank you.