the minutes from February 19th say aye aye all those opposed all right we have one abstention the motion passes. I'm sorry who's the abstention just from our okay this is still near you thank you miss all of you okay moving on number three unfit unfinished business mr. kawke do you want to read that one in yes sir enter to three under unfinished business. And it's previously deferred. We have VAR 2025-002-1, Old Distort District Request for Authorations at 417 King Street. The applicant is Taco Bell of America, represented by Johnny Godsey Architect. Is the applicant here? Oh. If you could just step up to the microphone. We just have to record everything. And if you could turn the microphone on and just state your name and an address of record for you. I'm just Dana Keaker. Joni Godsee is in our permitting department. I'm the project manager for the Taco Bells for Archvisions, St. Louis, Missouri. Do you have an address? 1950, Craig Road, Sweet 300, St. Louis, Missouri. Okay. Thank you. Now, would you like to answer questions about your application or give a presentation? What would your preference be? I can answer questions. your application or give a presentation, what would your preference be? I can answer questions. Okay, great. Does any member of the board have questions for the applicant? Mr. Lines? Thank you. Yeah, I'm just curious and I didn't read it in the notes. I mean, what's the purpose of creating this pickup window? I mean, other than picking things up, I mean, the store's not that big, so it's like, people just walk in and take it off the counter, are you planning on closing the store? Some of the stores they are planning on closing the dining room late night, and since this one doesn't have a drive through the pickup window, it just makes sense. So it would be used during when the dining room is closed? Yes. OK. Thanks. And I guess I had a question if you had read staff recommendations and your thoughts on that. I'm sorry, can I repeat that? If you had read the staff recommendation and what you were thinking about the recommendation. For the shroud, exterior shroud, for the color, the color purple. If we could also have a choice in making that black. Do we have any more questions of the applicant? Is that your preference to have it made black? Purple is the color of the Taco Bell that's their new brand color. We also realize and not everybody likes the bold purple. Thank you. Any members of the public questions for the applicant or wish to speak on this matter. All right. Seeing the public portion of this stock item is closed. Would any members of the to make to make comments on this application item. I'd like to make a motion to approve the application with the black color of the thicket window. I would like to second that. I don't think we have demolition. Do we? No, no sir. So we don't need a roll call vote. Nope. All right, we have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, congratulations. Thank you. Motion passes. All right, new business, Mr. Conkey. Yes sir, thank you. First item on our new business site is item number four and five. This is B-A-R-2025-0017 Oldenstark District request for alterations at 3268 Commerce Street. Applicant is Claire Schmiel and Jonathan Peterson by Stephanie Diamond Architect and B-A-R-2025-0018 District Request for Postal Demolition and Capsulation at 326A Commerce Street, Applicant S'Clair Smiel and Jonathan Peterson by Stephanie Diamond Architect. All right, would you please stay your name and address for the record? My name is Stephanie Diamond. I reside at Six West Maple Street, Alexandria, Virginia. All right, Welcome. Would you like to make a presentation or answer questions? Well, I just want to mention that I read the staff report and we have no problems with their requests. And this actually will be the third dormer in the rear of these houses on this section. All these houses are real at the same time. So it's actually, they now all look more alike than they did before. All right. Do any of the members of the board have questions of the applicant? Do any members of the public wish to speak on this application? All right, we'll close the public portion of this stocked item. Does anyone have any comments to make? Or feel free to make a motion if you'd like. I'd like to make a motion to approve staff recommendation. Do we have a second? Second. All right, Mr. Conkey. Oh, yes sir. The second was Mr. Miss Realized? Was that second? Yeah. Okay, great. Thank you. Sorry, I was looking Mr. Lines. Is that the second? Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. Sorry. I was looking down Miss Miller Yes Mr. Adams Miss Tony knew I Mitchell lines I Miss Andiam I Mr. Scott I Emotion passes congratulations. Thank you very much. All right, Mr. Conkey. What's next? All right. Next item are done. I have number six and seven. VR 2025-00335, Old Historic District. Quest for alterations at 1201 East Abingdon Drive. Applicant is PF3 Abingdoningden LLC and 12-0-1 Parkway Center LLC by Ken Wire and Megan Repolt attorneys. And BAR 2025-00306 Old Historic District request for partial demolition and encapsulation at 12-0-1 east Abingden Drive. Applicant to PF-3, Abingden LLC and 12-0 1201 Parkway Center LLC by Ken Wier and Megan Repolleteries. All right, could you please stay your name and address for the record? Yes. My name is Jack Kane, address 917th Street, Northwest, Suite 1050, Washington, T.C. Great. Would you like to give us a presentation? Yeah, so I'm going to kick it off. I work with the applicant. But I just want to give some background, and then I'm going to pass it to the architects to do a short presentation to kind of show you our progress since we have last been here. So we came to the board back in July of 2023 for a concept review. And since then, we've taken staff and boards feedback, developed the design. We have gone through our entitlement. We received DSUP approval back in February of 2024. And since that time, I've been refining our design, progressing design documents, and gearing up to go. So we're returning here at the appropriate interval to request certificate of appropriateness and permits a demolish. So I'll turn it over to our architects with KTGI. Terrific. And just before you start, give us your name and address. So we've got it on the record. Thank you. Hello. Minami is Federico Soifar. I'm design director with KTGI Architects and planners. The address is 2000 K Street, South Tower, and Northwest Washington D.C. Sweet 2000, 200. So, all right, thank you. We're going to do a summary presentation of the package. Specifically talking about the four comments, the four main comments, and then some two, four other extra slides to talk over all. So this comment was about increasing the amount of stoops on the building, on this south elevation, because we only have one unit and sharing the space with the garage entrance and very tight on this public alley. We were not able to accommodate for this stoop, but we were able to work with the articulation of the corner to make it lighter and work with the base on the new addition to a commode for the architect. We were able to increase the amount of stoop around the west, fast off the building and the courtyard. So this comment was about the base of the new addition. As you see on the left, we had the all red brick on the proposed. We worked with the addition to make it more distinct. We carved the corner and we emphasized these by-lusters every 15 feet that relate to a residential architecture next door. And we also clarify, like, emphasize this place by making the infilling between the windows with a single brick color. So everything comes together and is stronger. this comment also relates to these base on the west elevation. So we work with this material, it's a texture brick, has texture and basically simplifies the massing and the rhythm of the facade. You can see the previous option on the top. We had a combination of two materials, and it was not very tectonic, so that's about that comment. This comment was about the new courtyard created and the entrance and the emphasis on the canopy. So by adding these new additions, we're creating entry courtyard. The entry is far away from the street, so by highlighting the fence, brick pears, highlighting the direction, diagonal direction, and emphasizing the scale of the canopy, we think we successfully address that comment. And then with these four slides, we kind of summarize the rest of the comments. So here we can see how this corner got articulated is lighter and all the bylusters on the new addition are very rhythmic and I'm following this 15 foot increment. One of the comments that we received was that the existing addition because it was an office building, it didn't have the residential character, a residential building deserves. So we worked with the base of the building, we added cannabis, we added stubs to create that residential character, and we also added balconies on the corner of the main tower. We also are replacing all the windows and those windows will have a residential character and upper of the windows. So here we can see the residential character corner balconies on the existing building and we can also see on the on the addition how we refine this curvilinear facade that now is expressed as a plane instead of a solid volume. So it made a building lighter. Here you can see the more detail. Also, these polyesters are accentuated by stack bond, like articulation. I think that's it. So with these, we open it for questions. Thank you. I'll start with a question. I've noticed in the existing building, the fenestration in your renderings for the new building is different than the existing building. Are you replacing all the brick on the existing building or are you just going to fill it in and patch it in places? Yeah, no, we are keeping the existing brick. We're just replacing the windows. And we are adding meta-events and the new addition on top. But now we are not touching the existing walls. All right, thank you. Do one other question. Are you increasing the height of the building? The building maintains the height of the existing or the previous Mansard roof that this building had, that then it was demolished. So it's essentially the same bulk of the existing building. There's one slide that shows the demolition of the structure. So this building had a man's heart that had to be removed. That was hiding all the mechanical and how so basically, what we're doing is rebuilding the man's heart, but furtherough set back, and that turns into a resian show in Florida, basically. Okay, thank you. I'm do any members at the board of questions for the applicant? I do. I have a one question for you. Where is the entrance to the parking for the residents? The entrance to the parking is on the north elevation. There's an existing alley that we're keeping using as entrance. Right now we have one entrance on the parking lot, but that's where the new addition is gonna go. So that one is blocked. So basically on top of the image, horizontal, that's where the parking entrance is gonna be. And the parking is underground? Yes. So if I were coming to look at this building to rent a space, I would park underground and then walk around outside to the front. That's one option there's also a visit to parking, parallel parking on the street. Okay. All right, very good. Thank you. Could you tell me what semi-private means? It was written in the staff report that the courtyard is semi-private. What does that mean? Yeah, so the courtyard, if you aren't in the building, right? The building will be access controlled once you get into the building, but you'll be able to walk through the courtyard. The courtyard will be locked at night for security, but residents there's no access control on the gate to get into the courtyard during the day. So delivery drivers, things like that. It's meant to be an amenity for the residents, but it's you know open for the public to walk by and look at. And it's a four foot high fence there. What is... Salil hires, like a person height, six feet, I think. We had an exhibit that shows that. I was six feet. OK. I had another question about the mechanical system. So will any units or ventilation louvers will they be on your facade? Yes, and we're showing them on the elevation. The idea is that everything is going to blend with the brick, or some individual events that we specify in the material boards, and then mechanical systems on the top are screened. Oh, okay, so that looks like that's exhaust for the... Yeah, correct, yes, okay, yeah. So it's not the ATAC or anything. No, no, no. Oh, the HVC is on the roof and it's screened. Okay. Do any other members of the board have questions for the applicant? Is Moor? I did have one more question. Mr. Kane, are you representing the... I work for the entity that is the applicant. Okay. Pf3abicked. All right. I just wanted to be clear on that. Thank you. Absolutely. All right. Are there any lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of work to do. I'm glad to start. I think this building stood to be improved and I think that you have done a very good job with a presentation on improving the building. I think that what you've done so far is very well thought through. Specifically, I would say that the gray and the black verticals on the new addition. The application of that for me is becoming very 21st century and may be trendy. However, I think that your interpretation with the ins and the outs of the bricks and the texture of the brick and the complexity of it rather than just being a simple panel, but something of interest has made it intriguing and interesting. So I like it. I also think that it, I would say it's been a good design for the new building. I would also say that you've done a good job in regard to selecting that and taking this from a, you're having to look at your historic looking buildings around this property and contemporary looking buildings and I think you've done a good job with what you have done so far to blend the two and to come up with a unique solution that makes it its own statement. So so far I'm very pleased with all of that. And I think it will fit in well with its surroundings. I do have some suggestions for you, which are probably may go to our landscape designer or perhaps they stay with your department, but are your abilities. But I think that the front of the building, the courtyard, for me, the way you've positioned the courtyard could be a building that I would see on Connecticut Avenue or maybe even Park Avenue with the U shape and then coming into this center of the U is the entrance. But I don't think the entrance makes enough of a statement. I think the sixth foot wall is timid. I think the work that you've done is beautiful, but in terms of what it is to be designed. But I think it needs to say, I'm an entrance. This is where you come into this building. I don't think it does that yet. So I'm not... For me, I would be lost as to where to enter the building until I walked around and figured it out. I also appreciated Ms. Duney's question about what semi-private was. And I don't know, you may want to think about exactly how you're going to use that. But I think your interest needs to have much more of a sense of importance than it does. And I would consider making the wall higher. So those comments and other wasles into my colleagues, but those are my major input to you. I think you're doing well on it. Give it a B+. Thank you. Miss Miller, just for clarification when you're referring to the entrance do you mean the entrance from the sidewalk where the fence is? Yes, Abbington. Not the entrance that's built into the building in the inside of the courtyard. Yes that's what I'm clarifying. I don't think the entrance within the courtyard has to be. I think there's very little choice once you come into the courtyard. You're either in along the sides where you proceed. I thought that seemed inviting and enough of a direction to me. me. A one building I thought of on Connecticut Avenue, up in the 6100 block, has these great big balls on a column or proportional with the architectural column as the entrance. Something maybe in the lighting, something maybe in the design, additional design, just to say, announce the entrance is what I'm trying to say and the entrance for me is on Abington. Thank you. Mr. Lyons, do you have any comments? Yeah, I think I missed your first visit here back in July 23, but I think you've done a good job of addressing the concerns that were brought up by my fellow board members and I particularly like the lightning of the exterior. Yeah, I could support the project. Is Tony no. Excuse me. I think that I, you know, I agree with Ms. Miller about the entrance and maybe even the, maybe you can enlarge the entry brick where the gates are. My issue here is basically the, as you said yourself, you've made this elevation much stronger. And I think that I would prefer that to go the other direction given the mass and the scale of this building. It's very vertical and now that it's all white, it seems that you're really emphasizing, excuse me, emphasizing the mass of the building. So this land, if you could show a couple of the perspectives of our who's got control of them. Okay. With the adjoining townhouses. Yeah, if you back up one. Okay. So you can see that your previous scheme was a little quieter. I know that we asked you to differentiate the addition, but you've certainly differentiated it with your window pattern and your stack bond. I think if there was something a little more subtle, as you can see, the townhouses themselves have different colored brick from each other, which is also very subtle. And I think that the Washington Street guidelines are pretty specific about trying to reduce the mass of a building and not have this verticality. And I think that also makes it much more of a commercial office feel to it. So, who's are my thoughts? So we definitely took into consideration the guidelines for sure. The building has its own scale, it's not the same as the townhouses, and it needs to also respond to our existing building. I always get lost. It's a little bit of a balance. Well, the existing building doesn't have vertical pilasters that are white, right? So what I'm saying is I think it needs to be quieter, maybe the color, and introduce some horizontals to try to make it not as tall as it is. Because the other issue is it's so forward, it's very close to your property line, the other buildings are pretty far set back. Yeah, well, yeah, it's building the urban front, in a way. That's something that we were asked to do. And right now, there's no front. So in a way, it's announcing a little bit of its presence. I mean, what we did, the perspective is that we did 360. We looked at the building. We looked at the vegetation, at the scale, we have a very large wide avenue in front of us. So it's kind of the place where you, it's the ideal place where you make a statement or you announce a building because it, it also needs a presence on the, and that, that was our interpretation. I mean, to follow guidelines, we were very aware of the massing and the 100 by 80-feet massing. So that's what we created this big deep recess to not go beyond that dimension. But it's definitely easy., it's a larger building. It has a larger scale. It's responding to scale, but it's not trying to be something that it isn't. Right, it's a big massive building. So my thought is, let's not emphasize it with white vertical pilasters. That's all. Thank you. Mr. Adams? Thank you. I'd like that you've changed it's that it's salt not old brick as it was in the past. The floor plan and the corridor plan. I'm not sure that the entrance that's in the courtyard. That's the main entrance. And that works with the floor plan because of the corridor system. Is there also a back entrance on the east or on the north secondary entrances? We have entrances on the alley at Sunday East Yes, right and we have service entrances on the North and those garage entrance on the North correct But we also have service entrances and you can access from there And that's it we at yeah, that's it so, one assumes that they're arriving by car in our time right now. At another time, they may be arriving with the burrs or something else. It does seem that the entrance in the courtyard, although I can imagine, like as you said, on the Connecticut Avenue building, sometimes it is recessed and it's more cord and light. But I think just the walkability or people dropping people off, they're probably going to look for these other entrances where they don't have to be in the rain, for instance. And I wonder, I don't know the solution, but it... Yeah, well, we have those opportunities. We have the drive on the north. We have Anali on the east. We have a parallel parking on the drive, having done. But the, yes, that's a people or elderly people are something they're gonna be looking for a door that's close to their cab or whatever. That's just the, right one question I do have. And as Mrs. Miller said, the entrance, I do think even the one recessed in could have a little more amph, oomph. And maybe the fence, I like that idea of giving it more presence to announce that that's the entrance. I don't know that you'd ever have a covered walkway going that far. It's too far to be a covered glass entrance. So I think those are good comments or questions to ponder. I also was thinking about what Mr. El Nino was talking about. And when I look at the, there's the brick portion which is already there, and you're using that, keeping it. Then there is the second coloration, is the light color, this sort of H shape or the three elements that face into the courtyard, is there a group? No, they face to the south. So they're seen quite a bit from the people on the parkway and the historic style houses that are below there. When it moves around to the west, you have that in the middle and then you have these long, full height elements. And I just was wondering if that, I'm not too troubled by the pilaster, the verticalness of the one. But I think if the, is there also one on the north, it doesn't happen on the north side. It's just on the south and the, oh, it does happen a little bit on there. Okay, thank you. But I was wondering on the corner, although I'm not so sure of just having the dark skin and balconies as the right thing, but maybe there's a fourth language or material or something that isn't, or recessing something, so it's not all in the same plane. the spandrels and even the H shaped or the triple H could be modulated in some way to give it a little more complexity or shadow or something that might break it down. I think that this is Delany knows saying it's less but be less massive. That's one observation I have. Otherwise, I would listen to and interested in other people's comments. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Sandian. Thanks for your presentation. If you look at page 12, I have a question about the entry. So I see that we have the gate and a straight line with the canopy. Could you please bring the page 12? It's a stop. The arrow is looking to the side for showing the entrance. My question is, is the actual entrance is where the canopy is or is it where it's shown? Yeah, that's interesting. The canopy is aligned with the walkway. I tell drawing looks like there's some error. Maybe you can find the other. The one that has the sketch and the plan, because the canopy is a line. Yeah. So the entry is under the canopy. Yeah, correct. OK. I just wanted to make sure it's there. I do agree with Mr. Nino about the kind of the verticality. It's too, because of the color, especially, and the size of the mass of the building. It looks really wide. I, basically preferably the vertical lines, if you can make those smaller and preferably, so if you, sorry, I'm talking about page four, if you can bring that up, the one that has number three above. Right. You see where the image that has number three on it. The January 25. That one, it shows kind of what it's really thick lines and the very thick lines on the two vertical lines to the left and right. Those also, not only are they really large, but they also plug the views for if you are on the balcony. So either make them, like as a as thin as you can, or preferably just like if you can get rid of the kind of inverted L shape, or the corners, both of the corners, that would make it much. It's a catch thing too, because at some point we had those corners open, and then it was lacking, it was too short. So and then to kind of make this very subtle curve that follows the geometry of the street to make it stand out, we kind of extend it. In our favor, I would say that those corners are open because they have balconies. So they let the light go through. So it's kind of a nice transition between open and. I took the liberty of kind of showing it here is easier than talking. For me, visual is easier, so if you don't mind. I just copied it on the top. So this is the bottom. I just made this a little bit wider, and if you make these thinner, and especially the two last ones, that would make it a little bit wider and if you make these thinner and especially the two last ones that would make it a little bit wider. It's more elegant, you know, more. Yes. Not remodeled. All right. Yes. Oh, do you want it? I didn't mean to. No. Do you want it? I think. Yes, I do. Fair enough. So, yeah. All right. So yeah, sorry, I didn't have a way to show it on the over there, so I just printed it. But basically, it makes it look a little bit more elegant if those, because they're so light, the color of the brick, or also in the meantime, if you can, it's a nice brick color if you look at it like that, but it's too standing out too much. So if you can also look at possibility of a little bit different color brick, especially that is on Washington Street. I can more bricky color, but I think if you narrow these lines, it would help a lot. The other question I had is, I think, is page two. The one that has the number two around it. At that corner with the darker color brick, that is existing building. Are you closing off the windows, are there any, because the existing one shows some corner windows? Are those windows being closed up? That could be a graphic mistake. We're not... Yeah, I think we're not touching the existing buildings. I was saying that there's an error on the previous facade on the 23. So they don't exist in the corner. So we're not touching this existing building until we touch it basically. So whatever is exposed is going to stay. Okay. Okay. That's good. Because I was worried about matching the color of the brick. I think that's all my comments. All right. Thank you to all the board members for your comments. I think it's a beautiful design. I particularly appreciate the very intricate details that you incorporated. Personally, I, as a matter of taste, don't object to the white billisters. And it can be challenging coming from this board, because sometimes you get a bunch of board members that want to redesign your project. And that's not our job. We just need to look at what's appropriate for Washington Street and how it fits in and how it relates to the buildings nearby and and what I'm hearing from my board colleagues is that there's something about the white Pillars that is a little bit too bold and maybe even just by call it turning the color making it a brown or another color and then also by punching up that that pedestrian entrance from Abbingdon Street, I think those are the two primary things we've heard about. So we can take a vote today. If the motion, if your application fails, then you can appeal to the City Council and they can overrule the board. On the other hand, if you are interested in taking some of these comments and deferring your application to work out some of these details and then coming back, we would be more than happy to see you again. So we really defer to you. You have every right to say we don't want to defer. We want to vote. Or you can ask for a deferral. And then you can be docketed just as soon as you're ready. Mr. Conkey can clarify. Yeah, we can get you pretty much as soon as you can have the design ready. We can get you on a docket. We can talk to you offline to get that scheduled up, but that can happen pretty quickly. So it's your choice. We'll take the deferral and we'll come back with some revised based on the feedback. OK, so you're asking for a deferral. Great. We need a motion on the deferral. So moved. Do we have a second? Second. All those members in favor of the motion say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, well, we'll see you again sometime soon. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, it in? Absolutely. We have one right on our I'm out of docket question. Is it a number eight and nine? It is a number eight and nine. B-A-R-2025-0037. Oldenstark district. A question for alterations and an addition at 207 South Alfred Street. Applicant is Gregory and Larry and Kondinger by Steve Kylinski architect. B-A-R-2025-0032. Oldenstark district. A question for partial demolition and by Steve Kulinski Architect and BER 2025-003-2, will the historic district. Of course, request for a partial demolition encapsulation at 207 South Office Street, applicant is Gregory and Larry Ann Kondiger by Steve Kulinski Architect. All right, Mr. Kulinski, would you like to state your name and address for the record? Certainly, for the record. My name is Steve Kulinski of Kulinski Group Architects. at 104 North West Street in the city. All right, well, I know you've been here before. Would you like to make a presentation or answer question? My name is Stephen Klinzki of Klinzki Group Architects. I'm at 104 North West Street in the city. All right, well, I know you've been here before. Would you like to make a presentation or answer questions? Just briefly, we're trying not to, as a presentation, we are converting what is being used as an office into a house, and we're trying to touch it as delicately as possible. The only thing we're doing on the front is adding backwood doors to the vestibule that were once there. And then in the rear, we have a, what was a former porch that had been enclosed at some point and the foundations are failing now and the floors are, you know, out of level. We'd like to rebuild that back portion and in doing so we're changing the facade and the rear hopefully for the better removing that very awkward long stair to take you up to the second floor without any landing and that's it. Have you had an opportunity to review this type of recommendations? I have and happy to comply with this. Okay great thank you. Do any members of the board have I have questions for the applicant. Still need them? I do. So I guess that... I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't had a chance to investigate the actual conditions, but it's not very large. It's about four feet wide and probably 28 inches or so thick. OK. Yeah. If anything, it may have been like a part of a cooking kitchen, but it was definitely not a formal front parlor or anything like that. It would have been nice to save that, but I understand, you know, to have a larger family room there, but it's a fair amount. It gets demolished. I'm just going to just just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to just to you can you just just some clear on this you're referring to the wall that's on the interior. That was probably originally an exterior wall when it was a porch. Right. Okay. So make sure I'm following you. This is the interior brick wall, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I you like to start with comments? I think it's easy to take that back dilapidated porch down. That makes a lot of sense. And I think the addition looks nice. And I can understand having to remove that historic back wall, you know, would be nice to keep some of it if possible. That's all. Otherwise. Mr. Lyons. Yeah, I don't have any, I can support the project. We staff recommendations. Mr. Adams. It looks very nice. Or the only thing I can see the project. We staff recommendations Mr. Adams As usual looks very nice. The only thing I can see is that it needs a handrail on those back steps. Is that true? I'm sorry the back has steps that probably needs a handrail. Oh the new steps are at the new steps that we're adding Yes, because it's about four risers. And I guess we missed that on there. Only thing. Is Miller? I'm definitely in proven. I wanted to say that I think it's interesting that the three facades that can be seen on this property are all different. I think it makes it an interesting house, actually. And when you cover the existing window on the north, I'm sorry, on the north, Alifasad, how are you doing that? Is that going to be filled in with architectural block or brick or...? It's going to be some sort of waterproof panel, whether it's marine plywood or a, or a, a, a tracks type material, but it's going to be a smooth, a smooth panel and then we'll put a brick mold around to hold it into place and it'll have a, like a stucco stipple finish on it. Okay, that sounds good. Thank you. Madam Vice-Chair. I have no additional comments and I can review this staff recommendation. Thank you. I think it's a beautiful design and I tend to support it. I want to particularly commend you for restoring the vestibule doors in the front. I think it's appropriate and it'll be a really nice addition for the homeowners. So with that, can we have motion? I motion to approve with staff recommendation. Second. Mr. Comkey. Yes sir. I'm Miss Miller. I. Mr. Adams. I. Mr. Lyons. Hi. Mr. Adams. Hi. Mr. Williams. Hi. Mr. Lyons. Hi. Mr. Lyons. Hi. Ms. Andian. Hi. Mr. Scott. Hi. Congratulations. Thank you all very much. Thanks. Mr. Kanky, do we have any more business to attend to today? Nope, that's all we have on our doctor for the evening. Anybody on the board need to say anything? All right, this meeting is adjourned.