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I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm sorry. Good evening everyone. It is 6.18. We will now call our Tuesday legislative meeting to order. Madam Clerk, please call the roll. Mayor Gaskins. Vice Mayor Bagley. Councilman Gary. Councilman Chapman. Councilman Elnouvie. Councilwoman Green. Here. Councilman McPike. Okay. Madame Clerk, next item. Discussion or consideration of the investment of public funds where competition of bargaining is involved. Councilman Aguire. Madam Mayor I remember that City Council convened in closed executive session pursuant of Virginia code sections 2.2-3711-A6-A788 discussion or consideration of the investment of public funds where computational bargaining is involved. We've made public initially the financial interests of the city would be adversely affected. Consultation with legal council pertaining to actual litigation involved in an employment matter. We're such consultation or breathing an open meeting with adversely affected negotiating or litigating posture of the public body and consultation with legal council regarding specific legal matters requiring the provision of legal advice by such council. Okay, is there a second? All right, any discussion? There has been an emotion by Councilman Aguirre, seconded by Council Member Chapman, to convene enclosed executive session. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say nay. The ayes have it. 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It is the custom of the council that we begin each meeting with a moment of silence in the pledge so we ask that all those who are able please stand I pledge allegiance to the flag of the nine states of America and to the Republic for which it stands One nation under God. Invisible. Just a small. Hey Madam clerk next item. Reenacting upon the minutes of the following meetings of City Council, the meeting minutes of March 17th, March 25th, March 26th, March 29th, April 8th, April 22nd, and April 30th. Okay, is there a motion to... Okay, we've got a motion so much energy. There has been a motion by Council Member Chapman and a second by Council Member Green to approve the meeting minutes. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say nay. All right, ayes have it. Next item. Presentation of a proclamation recognizing emergency medical services week. OK, I have asked Hilton and El Nubi to read this proclamation. Anyone who is joining us for emergency services week, can you please come forward? We'll read the proclamation, I'll move it. Proclamation whereas emergency medical services is a vital public service and whereas the emergency medical services system succeeds because of the teamwork and dedication of Alexandria's public safety communications officers paramedics and fire and firefighters and EMTs along with their partners in public safety Public health social services the hospitals and throughout the community and the Alexander Fired Department's Emergency Medical Service provide providers already to provide life-saving care to those in need 24 hours a day, seven days a week. And, whereas, access to quality emergency care dramatically improves the survival and recovery of those who experience sudden illness or injury. And whereas, the Exandifier Department's Emergency Medical Services providers engage in thousands of hours of specialized training and continuing education to enhance their life-saving skills. And whereas, the Exandifier Department's Emergency Medical Services providers strive to serve everyone in need from the city's visitors, workers and residents to their own brothers and sisters in public safety. And whereas the Alexandria Fart Department has expanded its scope to include mobile medical care, also known as community paramedicine, to citizens that have been identified as in need of community health resources. And, whereas, it is appropriate to recognize the value of and accomplishments of this city's emergency medical services providers by designating emergency medical services week. Now, therefore, I, Abdel Elnouvi, on behalf of Alia Gaskin's mayor of Alexandria, Virginia, and on behalf of the Alexandria City Council, do hereby proclaim the week of May 18-24, 2025, as emergency medical services week in the city of Alexandria, and note the theme EMS week. We care for everyone, and I encourage the community to observe this week with appropriate program ceremonies and activities. In witness where I have, I here and to set my hand and cause the civil health center to be a fix on this 13th day of May 2025. All pass the mic real quick. Thank you. Philippe Hernandez Fire Chief. I just want to thank for this opportunity to recognize the great work That the men and women of the Alexandria Fire Department do for this community on a daily basis. So thank you We're Galvesti deputy fire chief of EMS and training Dr. Morphore the operational medical director Thank you all again for being here today. Thank you so much for your service and dedication to our city and our Residu- for the operational medical director. And thank you all again for being here today. Thank you so much for your service and dedication to our city and our residents. We really appreciate you. And with that met a mayor, I would like to move to the proclamation. Okay, there has been a motion and a second. Any discussion? I just have a quick comment. I just wanna say thank you for not only your exemplary service, but the way you represent our city. It is amazing to look at how many people we talk to whether there are residents or others in the field. I'm thinking about even when the council of governments recognize the service of our leaders after the horrific plane crash at DCI. Everyone who talks about men and women of the AFD, they only talk about them in the highest regard. So I just thank you for always representing us with the highest regard. So I just thank you for always representing us with the highest character. I thank you for the work, the grueling work that has gone into getting us fully accredited and all of the other new initiatives that I think are coming down the pike. So this is a small way of recognizing you, but I hope you know how grateful we are to truly have each and every one of you. I present things. Thank you. With that, there has been a motion by Councilman El Nubi and a second by Councilman. but I hope you know how grateful we are to truly have each and every one of you. I present things to you. With that, there has been a motion by Councilman El Nubi and a second by Councilman Chapman to approve the proclamation. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say nay. All right. The ayes have it. Thank you. Alright, we're going to put it to a photo. Okay. Okay. Madam Clerk, next item. Presentation of a proclamation recognized in city academy graduate. Okay. Madam Clerk, next item. Presentation of a proclamation recognized in city academy graduate. Okay. And I have asked Councilman Chapman, a former city academy graduate, to read this proclamation. If you are joining us, please come to the front. We will read the proclamation, give you an opportunity to introduce yourself and then take a group photo. All right. Good evening, everybody. As was said, I'm a former city academy graduate and I find the academy the best way to get to know the city. I have no doubt that all of you have now gone through that and have a new knowledge and appreciation of the work that the city does and particular staff because we learn about the work that they do day in day out to create what is Alexandria. So knowing what's behind the scenes, behind the curtain, how things get done, how you can get more involved, how you can advocate is all part of that experience. So it's great to welcome you as the newest graduates of the Academy. And I'm going to read the proclamation and then we'll go around and folks can introduce themselves but also tell maybe what neighborhood you're from. So we can understand the kind of diversity of where folks are from within the city. So whereas the City of Alexandria thrives on an informed, engaged, and active residency. And whereas the City of Alexandria Academy programs foster resident engagement through meaningful opportunities for those who live or work in the city. And whereas the City of Alexandria Academy programs offer more than 10 courses annually, which build community partnership across our city priorities, including public safety, adult and aging services, energy efficiency, and state and local government. And whereas the city academy stands as a pillar which provides firsthand experience with city services and staff, which educate participants on how to make a positive long-standing impact throughout our community. And whereas this cohort of students serves as the inaugural class of our city of Alexandria Academy whose objective is not only, excuse me, is not to simply learn about the city services and operations but bring about change change in our neighborhoods, community, and city. Whereas over the past two months, this cohort has expressed an interest in being leaders in the community for our youth and families and public arts, and work across history and culture, and with our limited English proficiency population. And whereas since 2004, our city, Alexandria City Academy has hosted approximately 1,200 participants, logged more than 900 service hours, invited over 25 community partners and stakeholders, and visited more than 15 of our neighborhoods. And whereas this group of 30 students has visited locations around the city of Alexandria and heard from city departments and partners about how they can become more involved. Now therefore I John Taylor Chapman on behalf of Alia Gaskins mayor the city of Alexandria Virginia and on behalf of the entire Alexandria City Council to hereby recognize the Alexandra City Academy Spring 2025 graduating class. For our spring 2025 cohort's completion of the Alexandra City Academy in commitment to bettering the city in which they live. In witness warehouse, I have herein to set my hand and call the seal of the city of Alexandra to be affixed this 13th day, 2025. All right, with that being read, I will now turn it over to you to introduce yourselves. All right, I am Nick Zuzulia, work in the Office of Communications and Community Engagement. I just want to say quickly that we approach things a little bit differently this city academy session, which you all have heard me say, where we were really focused on engagement and how you all can get involved and make sure that this is a pipeline to engage with the city, how we engage with you, how you can engage with us, and how you can see yourselves in city work. The last seven weeks of academy have been two hours a night from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday for almost two months. And if you are familiar with Alexandria traffic, you know that's a lot to sign up for. And you all have done it. 27 people have agreed happily done it based on the surveys that you all have filled out that I've, how did you fill out? Done it happily and come back asking for more. So, you know, thank you. I think that really speaks is a testament to your willingness, your interest in engaging with the city learning about Alexandria, learning about how you can give back to the place you live. And that should be applauded. I think that it is obvious by the fact that in week three, one of you came up to me and said, like, hey, can I help you guys plan to the Academy next time? This, like I do human-centered event planning, is that something that would be beneficial to you? When we were just downstairs, like four of you said, I've already signed up for a board of commission or applied for one. So, it's working, great. And that, again, that speaks volumes of you, speaks volumes of the people in the city who came and spoke to you, including four people up on the stage. So again, I just wanted to acknowledge and applaud as what we're doing right now, but the amount of time and effort is not negligible that you all took to come and figure out how you can give back to the city. So, so great work. And thanks for doing that. And now as a council member, councilman Chapman said, if you all just want to kind of introduce yourselves and say where in the city you live because one of the efforts here was to make sure that we were getting somewhere a group representative of Alexandria. I think that would be that would be great. Hi, my name is my oizman. I live in Alexandria west. I am Capri Butler and I swim from Alexandria west West, specifically a seminary road area of Inc. I'm Evanderson and I'm from Taylor Run. I'm Laura Stackhouse and I'm from the old town. I'm Rachel Dixon and I am on the western. I'm Christine. I'm a bit unique because I am a city employee. I'm actually Mayor Gaskin's executive aide. So I did this experience to help me my day to day job to learn more about how the city operates. So I can do my job better. So it's been a wonderful experience. Oh yeah. I'm Chris Arnold, west end of Alexandria Garden Street, 45 Garden Street. I'm Chris Arnold, West End of Alexandria, Garden Street, 45 Garden Street. I'm Amy. I'm Amy and Street on Disclosed, but we're Rick Village. I'm Becca Sheagle from Delway. I'm Andrew Rogo from Potomac Yard. I'm Steve Daz from Old Town. I am Sarah Ramesy from the Holmes Run neighborhood. I'm Jack Butler from Monticello Park in Northridge. I'm Meg Zikowski from the Weston, which is the best in if I'm allowed to say that. Western represent. Hi, I'm Aaron Beverly Olsforrest, Northridge. I also wanted to say thank you very much to all of the civil servants that we met during this. Thank you so much. I'm sure you don't get to hear that enough, but we really appreciate it, but you did. I'm Gabby Bomerig. I was born in Alexandria Hospital, but now I live in Lin-Haven. I'm Tom Van Antwerp, Del Rey, all day. I'm a Camden Weber, and I'm in Old Town, and just want to go everybody. This has been a really fantastic opportunity. So thanks for opening up your doors to let us engage. Thank you everyone. Jose Panado, Potomac Yard. Just moved to the area in February. So timing was perfect and just really want to highlight how proud everyone was of the work that they do and how passionate everyone was. So truly thank you for all your time and effort. Absolutely. Well thank you to all of you. Usually we ask folks not to share with them from, but share how long they've been here. But I think it's as I started to hear about where some folks were from, it was great to kind of hone in on that and kind that and the diversity of our neighborhoods and our cities and where people are coming from. Before I move the proclamation, I want to make sure I give proper respect to former councilwoman Joyce Woodson, who went to, I believe it was a National League of Cities convention back in 2003 or 2004, and brought back with her other places we're doing and so I always want to give homage to how we got started doing this program and as you heard in the proclamation we've expanded it past the kind of city academy that you went through that way we have stuff in the public safety and the environmental space as well and so with that I want to make sure I see the mayor and know that I am going to move the proclamation. Okay, there has been a motion by Councilman Chapman and a second by Councilman Aguirre to move the proclamation. Any discussion? Okay, well I just quickly wanna say a few words.. I just want to echo the comments of my colleague and just say thank you so much for giving of your time. I know all of you have other commitments and the energy, the questions you brought, I think we were getting questions after the sessions to make sure that we provided you with a good experience really just shows the commitment and passion that exists within our city. I would also just leave you with, I think, as I said, and our opening when we first met, we can't be the inclusive, the innovative, and the creative city that we want to be, and that... I would also just leave you with, I think as I said, and I'm opening when we first met, we can't be the inclusive, the innovative, and the creative city that we want to be and that we hear from you without you being a part of it. And so I hope that whether it was a session you went to, a person you met or an idea you heard, that that inspired you to get involved in a new way. I think several of us up here are city academy graduates. I took the Academy. I joined the Transportation Commission and then next thing I was running for office. So maybe you will be sitting up here with us too, but I just hope that you carry that momentum to keep sharing with us, to share with your neighbors and to encourage someone else to participate. And to all of the staff that help make this possible, I just want to say thank you. I know this is one of many duties that you do and the work that goes into cultivating this experience is no small feat. So thank you. I know this is one of many duties that you do and the work that goes into cultivating this experience is no small feat. So thank you. With that, there has been a motion and a second who moved the proclamation. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed, say nay. All right, the proclamation is approved. So you. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Okay, Madam Clerk, next item. reports from members of City Council and Board's commissions and committees health and safety committee met Mayor Gaskins and Councilwoman Green. Okay, I'm going to ask Councilwoman Green to you mind starting this one. Sure, thank you very much. So Health and Safety Committee, we meet once a month. I found this one to be truly helpful to me as we hear about evictions in our city and them rising. and we had a presentation that mapped out literally from beginning to end the eviction process in our city and how residents received help. And it was actually one the wall of the medium that we were in. So it was a physical, this is what happened. So that was extremely helpful. And then we also got an update from the police department as well. And I think what else Mayor Gaskins? I think what stood out most for me was the process, the meeting, the information about the evictions. No, I think that's great and I would echo that. I guess the other two things that I would just lift up, one of the things we're trying to do is make sure that we really spend time diving into topics and giving them the attention they deserve. And so we received an initial presentation of kind of what does it look like when a person first receives an eviction notice all the way to the point of eviction. How are our different departments interacting? What data is being collected? And what can we do to better promote prevention and housing stability on the front end? And so we're going to continue that conversation into the fall. I think it really illuminated some areas where there might be more opportunities for cross departmental sharing. Same was true for our public safety update. While violent crime is trending down overall, we have seen an uptick in recent incidents. I think have given a lot of concern to the community. And so we talked a little bit about how are we sharing information, what sort of expectation can residents have in different areas that have been impacted by recent violence, and then as a council, what sort of things do we need to be thinking about moving forward? So that is our last meeting for kind of this session. We go on a little break over the summer and then we will reconvene in the fall to continue building upon these conversations. Madam Clerk. Northern Virginia Transportation Authority, Mayor Gaskins. I apologize, I don't have an update on this one. I had every intention to go and then we had our economic summit and I stayed until the end for those conversations. So I can circulate once I get the minutes from the meeting. I can circulate that to the council. City council, schools subcommittee. Mayor Gaskins councilman Chapman. I asked Mike, Mike. I know. So the City Schools Committee met. And I guess for our context, we have been sort of exploring in response to the memo that Council voted on that was started by Vice Mayor Bagley and Councilman Alnuby about exploring opportunities to expand dash transportation to support transportation for high school students. We've been kind of in a several part series to be able to dissect that issue much more fully and to sort of wrestle with different questions or concerns that just about the proposal to make sure that we can be as informed as possible about making an institution. So we started our meeting with having a presentation both from Dash and from the ACPS. This presentation really focused on the routes that our young people are taking to and from school and understanding where there's current overlap. I apologize, I don't have the presentation in front of me right now, but we can circulate that to the council. From there, what we decided is the next step, as it calls for in the memo, it's for the manager to pull together a series of recommendations about where we might go from here. We've asked Jim to summarize sort of all of the presentations that we've had so far. We've also asked him to summarize where their additional questions. one thing that kept coming up was, do we truly have a handle of the preferred options that young people want? And so what would it look like to do a survey in ACPS in order to get more of that data and information? We also talked about sort of do we need additional analysis around other jurisdictions models? So that will all be in the memo. The memo will be forthcoming to council later. And then I think what we agreed upon was that we probably need to have then a work session between our two bodies so that everyone can be a part of this dialogue and we can talk about next steps and community engagement to keep moving forward. After that, we received an update on redistricting and update update on the ACPS foundation, and then an update on early childhood services. And I recall. Okay, Madam Chair, can I have an exciting one? Alexandria Workforce Development Center, Councilman Alnubian, Councilman McPike. All right. So we met last month, I believe. Actually, we met this month, the work first development. We had a presentation by two citizens who are involved in the older adults work program, the 55 plus work program. They came in to share their experience about how the program really benefited them. It's a program that helps older adults who are job seekers, helps them upskill them and helps them look for jobs. And also build networks. One of the things that the gentleman who was there shared, the biggest benefit he felt from that program is the confidence it helped him build as he was looking for a long time and couldn't find one. Also, the camaraderie that you build in that program and how our staff were really helpful and instrumental in helping them in that program. We also had a presentation by one of our commissioners on aging Mr. Jim Lindsay and he presented the program that he started in partnership with the Workforce Development Center. It's an entrepreneurial program for seniors, for older adults, Shark Tank style. So he helps those who want to start a business. He teaches them how to start a business. Mr. Lindsay actually teaches in Georgetown. And he teaches, or that program, he uses the same curriculum. He loses in Georgetown to teach entrepreneurship. Helps those participants in the program with ideas that they have and develop them into a business idea. And then he brings in Alexandria Banks and then have them pitch the idea to the banks and see if they can get funding for the idea. So another break program that we have that we got exposed to in that committee meeting also had a conversation about the you know, the current trends in federal unemployment and the efforts that the city has been undergoing when it comes to that. That is up. Madam Clerk. No other Virginia Transportation Commission. Vice Mayor Bagley and Councilman McGurray. Picture sign. I think Vice Mayor Bagley or Starrgott. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right, that's right. That's right. So, the North Virginia Transportation Commission met recently and we were visited by the Lamada, President Rene Clark and chair Board Chair, Valerie Santos for what was really a very exciting and optimistic promising update. There's been a 40% reduction in crime, the lowest level in seven years. The system is safe. There is the lowest part one crimes pretty much ever under under a thousand of them had been reported, although my notes failed to note over what time frame that was. But crime is essentially down and in a significant way. While at the same time, there have experienced 49 consecutive months of ridership growth. The bus levels are exceeding even 2020 levels. So we're exceeding sort of pre-pandemic. The Cherry Blossom Saturday had the second highest day of ridership ever in the system. And for your next trivia night, the highest day of ridership in the system was the women's march. Just some fun facts for you. They also on just some updates for the community side. They are going to be expanding the hours into some later and earlier service on the weekends, recognizing that for a lot of service workers, they need to get going earlier in the morning for early flights out of DCA and Dallas. So there'll be an expansion of hours. Also, the Better Bus Network will be kicking off on June 29th. And so you probably already noticed some signage changes. I just wanted to highlight the 11Y is going to become the F-19. That's the route that I use most often to get into the city. And also want to draw people's attention that in July from the 7th to the 26th, there will be bus replacement service between Frank-Conia Springfield and Vandorn. So there's gonna be some work on those stations and those tracks. But it was a very positive update, highlighting a lot of the growth in both ridership and the reduction in crime. The fair enforcement efforts are really showing huge changes in that regard. And there was an update as well sort of transitioning away from service discussion to funding and legislative changes. The SJ-28, which is the state group that's examining transit funding statewide, and then DMV moves, which is the regional body, which is getting together to discuss well-moder funding regionally. They're each sort of chugging along with both expected to deliver their recommendations towards the end of the year. And for us locally and at the Virginia level, next year's general assembly will be a really important time for transit funding and how those formulas are put together and how we will find new ways to create dedicated funding streams for transit systems moving forward. There was also a commuter choice program update and I will just note that Alexandria continues to have competitive programs within commuter choice and we are optimistic that we will receive funding for some ongoing dash programs and other investments in this year's package. Thank you. Madam Clerk. Commission on Aging, Councilman Aguiri. I was not able to attend the meeting but I did look over the agenda and had a chance to speak with the chair briefly to look over some of the highlights. And one moment please. So there was some updates on the age friendly plan, food security, across the city. There was election of new officers and I want to remind everyone that we will be having a proclamation on the 17th and There is also a presentation from our hall around the ledre development I know that we've been carefully watching this in the city because we have a lot of residents that are Are highly impacted by this potential move and there is also a Review of one other Project on here, trying to find it, the view. That was the other project that they got an update on. And lastly, I just wanted to mention that we also had our Excellence in Aging Awards just a few minutes ago or about an hour ago downstairs in the below last season. Lobby and and for our Public Service Award it went to the staff, one of the staff members in the Division of Asian Pamela Austin, very well-deserved. The Excellence in Agent Award for Organization went to our local Alexandria YMCA. The Lois van Valkenberg Excellence in Agent Award for an individual was awarded to the city's own from the Department of Housing, Tamara Yovovic. And lastly, as a surprise, the NAB Rose Lifetime Achievement Award was very duly awarded to our former chair now current co-chair, Mr. Michael Schuster. And with that, that is my report, Madam Mayor. Thank you, Councilman McG that I'm clerk Or report from the city manager progress report on the city hall renovation and market square project Mr. Manager, I think I'm turning it over to you first. Yes, so we have another update. I think this is series four I believe with Director Jeremy and my pike is gonna run through a little bit more on the progress update of where we are. Thank you Mayor and members of City Council of Jeremy McPike Director of General Services. I want to spend a brief update and appreciate the city manager's time to give you some updates. We had concluded, as you might recall, the series 4, public outreach. We've been through a number of meetings with board of architecture review, other outreach. This is an opportunity for us to give you an update and get your feedback. We're going to touch base just as anyone who might be tuning in for the first time, a couple little recaps before we get into some of the new details. We're going to walk through a couple of different things on City Hall, the parking garage and market square. We've covered before the significant backlog of capital maintenance and needs the garage itself, just to recap for those who might be tuning in. For the first time, we have a lot of crumbling, concrete, rebar, we have a lot of water infiltration. It's running a lot tonight, so as you go under the garage, you're going to see a lot of water inside. The city hall itself is just to recap lots of different challenges between pipes bursting and different things. It's been long, long overdue. And so we have a long need to renovate this facility. And from a historical perspective, We've been on the same cycle for about every 60 years. Since 1817, 1871 after it burned, and basically every 60 years thereafter of having to sort of reinvest generationally, and we're right at that marker of reinvesting. So key elements tonight, we're gonna update on the market square design, the facade update for the 1960s, sort of what we see as King Street itself and some of the movements there. The building interiors, we have some visuals now tonight for you to take a look at. And then the fifth floor expansion. We have a fifth floor now, but some of the opportunities that we have to go with you tonight. So as a quick recap of the timeline you've seen this before, we started out last September with a large amount of community series. So we're preparing right now for our architecture review concept to submission. We met with the board in April to do some initial concept review, and we are ready for completeness for planning commission here in June. And so we are readily going through the design, the engineering, early concept review process and anticipate coming back to you after going through those in July, just with sort of a summative update of each one of those actions. So series four, for those, just a quick recap, of the total series of engagements, we've been through thousands of individual engagements from last September. I think we're over between 45 to 50 different public engagements. It's been a very busy time since last September to get to these sort of numbers, not to mention sort of online and social media engagement that we've been through. But it's really been informative just to remind people we started listening first and observing before putting a pen to paper which has been really helpful for us. And then the series two sort of pen to paper and started to build concepts of what we heard from the community to get us into series four. In series four we really started to focus in on what are the value driven investments. And the community came back pretty strongly that it was really about long-term investments. If we're gonna do this, and we're gonna have a large investment in the garage and market square, let's get the investments into it from a long-term perspective, whether it's geothermal, whether it's parking, modernization, and city hall modernization. These were very strong themes. So the darker blue line in these charts are the longer term investments, lighter blue or sort of less important. So each one of these bars has a very long term investment, which is really helpful feedback, sort of concluding series four for us. Building investigations, while we doing all that, we've been poking around, which is really important important any historic facility like this has a lot of risk we still don't know at all we don't claim to know it all but what we're doing is investigating early and so our team has been going through and we have a quick video of an example the Abdul Hitt play for us here of the work we've been doing and pinpointing every different part of the building and then doing video investigations and poking around in ceilings, what we don't have in drawings, we've been going through and really looking at what looks like a normal office space and then going up into the ceilings to reveal sort of historic trusts in different elements. These are the things we want to know now before we get into construction, before we complete design. And so we've been doing 3D scans of the building and we've been doing trying to cover as much as we can before we get into sort of more investigation that has to remove walls and different stuff. So we're doing all that in early work right now, which is really helpful to us. So this is an example here, actually down below you right now. This is an example of a wood capital. It is the top of the support beam that holds up city council. It's a wood capital that frames the structural support to this. And you see that nice crack through it on the right picture on the right. Just for example, the little small things you find when you dig around old buildings like this, it's the little cracks, the little things that go, hmm, yeah, it is, I'm going to knock on wood, safe. And I'll let the building go to officials and back, say otherwise. But it's, you know, this is the discovery process. And process and we're really in that discovery phase. So we want to share some of these tidbits of findings with you. There are a lot of these little intricacies that we're discovering along the path with you. So design update, a couple different things and updates. So the image on the left is Market Square, as you know it today. The image on the right is after feedback from Board of Architecture Review. Now you might recall, we went through a series of iterations on what the new concept of Market Square might look like. The final image we before we went to Board of Architecture Review had more playful image and a pop jet in the center, which had sort of more of a swirl and circle feature through the feedback there, the sort of more of a preference to do a little bit more traditional. So the circles in the small circles in the middle are still pop jets, still water features still at grade. But a much more linear traditional fashion, the darker color lining up towards City Hall from King Street towards Marketswere is really paving pattern that's sort of flanking pop jets. And then you see closer to the building, sort of recognizing the original alley that existed next to Marketswere, that's where the paving pattern sort of differs. A couple of different moves that we did, the last concept that we provided, you had the elevator and stair function towards Royal and King Street, sort of moving it towards, but actually for this concept, we've moved it back to where the elevator stands today, and stair provides today. So it's much like a market square that you have today, without the larger mountain function that consumes so much of the space. We've also provided left flanking close to the building, the left and the right side, more shaded tree area with more living room table and chair-style. The larger plazas tends to get hot, but yet we know that hearing from the farmers market vendors that still that flow for larger events, whether it be the Christmas lighting ceremony for different parades for Saturday mornings of the market, that the flow in pathways through the space is very important. And so we're trying to blend sort of the best of all the different worlds to get to us to hear. So we've got some playfulness, we've got some tradition and some areas that still allow the flexibility for different seasons while still being for most part on grade. We have some elevated seating areas where trees are, but not like today where today's design does not have universal design, you can't have shade because there's no wheelchair access. This is all built into universal design. So there's ramps at each side where all Alexandria's or visitors can enter and experience the plaza in the same manner. Mr. McPike, sorry, before you move to the next question. This bottom left, these little circles, are those the movable furniture you were talking about? Or what do those circles represent? So the bottom left of the right-handed picture, there's... Yes. Oh, yeah, there is some opportunity from small seating. In the next slide, I'll show you some of those are trees. They're just not highlighted in. So this mishaded area at King Street in North Royal. And so there's ability to provide some small seating areas for flexible tables and chairs, both at North Royal and King, the lower left corner, up closest to the building and the fair facts street side as well. Okay. And then can you just expand a little bit more on kind of what was the concern about having a more playful water feature? Yeah, part of it Madam Mayor, I'm members of council, there's twofold. One of which is the size as it consumed more of the center. The other concept had an additional line of trees closer to the flag poles as you line what's now where the sort of the darkest ripe is sort of the promenade leading to the building. There's a line of trees there. The concern was both the Saturday morning farmers market, the ability for vendors to set up tents and have the natural flow down and up and back would have been much more difficult and broken up through the experience versus providing much more linear path. Makes that more natural flow for both larger events throughout the seasons and for Saturday mornings for the farmers markets. And so this streamlined it a little bit. You'll see in the next image, we do have a number of changes that are lining and a different pathway up around that we've sort of, we're able to move around the site to still get some of the tree canopy coverage that we wanted while still bringing up sort of the core access to the front of the building, while still allowing access to the left side, and you'll see in the next image, has sort of a semi-stage as a covered, but not a formal stage function, where a ceremony as could happen and other things can happen, and we can set up tables and chairs, and again the pop chasers of ground level. So there's much more dynamic solutions to programming of this markets where. And I can explain to the next slide if that makes sense. It's a little bit easier to see a couple more dimensions to this with the trees. The the left side has sort of a covered area that you see in the red orange color. The backdrop of that is the stair, as well as elevator, which we're going to try to introduce some more glass. We want to make sure that at nighttime and different times of the day, there's always glass and visibility to any sort of entry function. It's very clear where you're going from a safety perspective. We want to do that. But it does actually provide a nice backdrop also to that sort of stage or ceremonial function, in the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the city of New York, and the center of the building from sort of the south to north and access of this site. So a couple of facade updates for you. You'll see on the image on the right, this is some of the concepts that we're playing with. One of the fascinating things. Again, moments of discovery, Madame Er, this this week, I dug up at 1966. This is December 9th of 1966, just a few years after the 60s edition was added. And council was struggling the fact that the facade from 1960s, what they didn't realize rightfully so, was when the 61 edition was done, the revitalization in Market Square wasn't a concept yet. And yet, all the buildings were torn down and Market Square was developed. And yet, the 61 edition and infill, it was essentially a back door, but now became the front door. And so the architecture was never realized. And even just a few years into it being a brand new addition, City Council was struggling with the fact that the proportion and scale was off. It's door and entry now to an open King Street didn't have the same proportion. And so this is the same thing that our design team is struggling with today. So what you see on the image on the right is actually providing an entry that says this is where I'm supposed to go. Right now it says a simple, very small, two-door entry and reads very difficult, depends on where you're at and approaching the facility. The other really interesting points of this are the ability to expose some of the historic structures. We have to rebuild the stairwells on both sides next to the historic structure to update the modern code. One of the abilities we have to do is to help to expose both sides. You see the image on the right, the left side of the historic building. We're introducing glass actually right here and right here next to you on this side of the wall that have been covered up for years. And we're doing the same thing, which is brick and filled on the other side. What it does is it gives you a sense of what was originally there and the ability to express and celebrate some of that historic structure. So there's some really neat things that we've been working on in collaboration with the Board of Architecture Review. Members of Old-town civic association we've been meeting with as well as historic Alexandria Foundation of the last couple weeks and getting feedback. The other thing I'll note for you is what's missing? The image on the right. We've removed the chimneys. I wanted to make sure to highlight that for you. It's a discussion that we're having with Board of Architecture review. It takes up structural calmness space. But actually, what it's doing is competing with two sort of precedent examples, one of which is the Governor's Mansion in Colonial Williamsburg, which is sort of where the facade of the 60s was taken from. The other is the House of Burgess of Williamsburg, which is you see on the right. So it's literally two buildings that were reconstructed in Williamsburg that are of the same timeframe, one with chimneys and one without. So the proportions and scales, we can get a long architectural debate over those things, but I wanted to note that these are the debates and discussions that we're having architecturally with Board of architecture review. Part of the teams thoughts are, frankly, the chimneys compete with the Lutraub Tower. They compete with a lot of the historic structure with fake additions that were there were never chimneys. They're always ornaments that were added to the structure. And so the ability to feature the Lutraub Tower is-free, powerful move than the ornaments that were added in the 60s. And so we want to make sure to update you. This is a discussion we're still having. We're going to go back to Board of Architecture Review for Concept 2 here in shortly in June. And wanted to make sure to highlight this element for it's an ongoing discussion. We've been having community meetings on these, which has been extraordinary helpful. You see, we've on the framing of the center structure, we've added having community meetings on these, which has been extra and helpful. You see, we've on the framing of the center structure, we've added some coins, some a little bit more definition, materialality, we're still working with Port of Art, texture review on. A couple different things from our last update to you. I want to make sure to highlight for you, we had heard you in terms of the need for public restrooms. The lower right hand corner where the farmers market is today, we have bathrooms that are available to the public any time of the day. So during normal, you know, we're going to keep them up 24-7, but for when visitors are in Alexandria, we want to make sure there's an experience where they can access those, they can have those. The building has wellness rooms also. This is public rest from Oswa restroom also has adult changing tables, which I know is a moving trend in the code. Maryland has adopted some standards around that as well. So we want to recognize those things as well. And so we took your comments at a heart and our last meeting, we've adopted those within this design. And you see these light blue spaces are sort of the public core that are now as you enter into the building, each of those elements are accessible to the public immediately as they enter. So a couple of views. I think this might be some new views that folks are seeing, but one of the big moves, the image on the left is from the Vola Lawson Library. It's looking to where the elevators stand today. What we've done is we've moved the elevators deeper into the building to the south west corner. By doing so, we're able to open up an H-RM that you could see the L-Trow Tower, as well as open up a two-story volume of the actual historic structure from inside. And so what you'll see in this design is sort of repeated themes of opening this two-story volume both inside and out, whether it's in market square or inside the building, you get the sense of the original brick, the original windows. And you have this grand staircase, which provides a natural forum, a place of visible marker within the facility. As you know, wave finding is very difficult because the inside, as you enter the building, is very cluttered with both the restroom core as well as the elevator core. And it's not a very welcoming experience. It's not a very civic experience. And so that's what the team has been challenged with. You see the image on the right is sort of the picture from Volo Lawson Library out to Market Square. Again, much more open council Chamber to the left. Things are very much more intuitive in terms of where he's supposed to go, as well as a visitor and information desk right there as you go into the building. And from his security standpoint as well, his security has visibility from both entrances. Right now it's very difficult. We have a lot of columns. It's very difficult to see different people coming in and out of the facility. So we want to provide that update to you. So this next image is the one on the right is from the second floor, looking outdoors, low-trowed tower. And the next one is the fifth floor, also celebrating sort of low-trowed tower. And by use of natural light, floor we're able to open up and allow the tower to be sort of the central point and engage, engaging our history from inside and out is sort of how we're able to pull together each of the different floors and celebrate some of the really neat architecture that we have at this facility. In the last couple slides, some of the proposed views from the fifth floor. We have a fifth floor today that nobody gets to right now because it's employee lounge because it's sort of more back of the house, but we do have a fifth floor today. And so we're able to, because we're moving the elevator core a little bit into the building so we can open up that civic space on the first floor, we want to make sure we connect that elevator to the existing fifth floor. And there's an opportunity. And there's an opportunity to also showcase some of the views that we have from that fifth floor to the entire river. You can see the US Capitol from our roof line. You can see all the way down the river, from the Potomac River. You can see a lot of our history in Alexandria. And so it's an opportunity to open up and do some tourism. Some... You can see all the way down the river, the Potomac River. You can see a lot of our history in Alexandria. And so it's an opportunity to open up and do some tourism, some civic history telling from our city hall and open up as a civic and event space. So we're very excited about that. Again, some of the views on the right from Leotrope Tower and then out across the city. Unfortunately, the model only has like the first couple blocks. It doesn't have a whole block, but we're walking to go upstairs and take a look at those with you. So we would love your feedback. Tonight, Madam Mayor, members of Council, it's been a very busy, almost a year. We're getting, it's been eight months, but it feels like a couple of years. But it's been a lot of uncovering discovery, rediscovery, and feedback and comments throughout the process. So I really appreciate your time and feedback. Thank you. Are there questions or comments from the council? Councilman Aguirre. I'm going to start with the Volo Los and lobby. I really like the direction that you guys are going with that. The openness and like you mentioned, it is a little cluttered when you come in and having the council, the chamber there, everybody kind of knows directly where to flow if you will. the market square. I guess one of the things that I like is that you could have a lot of people, and I'm not sure, maybe you could tell me a little bit more about it. I feel like there's, I mean, from that view, it looks like you could still have a lot of people kind of gather, but I kind of felt from the other view that people couldn't really come in. I need to think on that one a little bit more. Yeah, that may or it's a great observation. We've done some of the overlays. This example is really important to look. the left side, the current fountain and pool consumes so much of the space. When you compare to the right, we by eliminating that and re-positioning it, we're able to capture what happens in inaccessible spaces in terms of tree and sitting to accessible space and then allow that space to be made up in the center. So I think from my perspective, the image on the right may throw you off a little bit because the shading of the paving, even though it's all the same surface. That's why we try to show it in different dimensions. Like the next one, it's actually a more space and more usable space by eliminating that fountain. We're able to line up more market vendors on Saturdays for instance intense and more central space by doing it because we sort of have a north south and an east-west access by opening up and changing. So it's a little I agree with you it's a different orientation it feels because of the change you want to, you know, program it's hard to see and feel. We can do a fly through too with you. It's a lot of data to do tonight, so I couldn't load all of it, but we have the graphics can dynamically fly you through the space, which is great. It's just a lot to load for a presentation, and it would probably crash the system. So. Comfort, Japan. Thank you for the presentation. Starting with market square, I think. I appreciate kind of you answering about kind of capacity for this space as the market is kind of the primary additional use that we have there and so You're understanding is that we'd be able to fit a little bit more within the that space due to Taking out the the pool in the middle with fountain in the middle as well as kind of the evening out as I understand it of some of the side spaces. And so I think that's a welcome addition. One of the things that I have to put my plug in or also get me is for I know this is probably a little bit too far but having an area where we can kind of tell the story about some of our sister cities, that's been something that I know the committee and others were very interested in and trying to find out how we can tell that story within a portion of Market Square. And so if it's a grove of trees or something there when we start to program that out, I think that would be a neat opportunity to educate folks that are in that space. The shade structures I know in earlier presentations on this we had a little bit more of them or we had temporary stalls. Has that kind of gone away now with the exception of that one shade area? Yes, Madam Mayor and Councilman, yes. I know there's a comment of from city council's last iteration that maybe you want more flexibility. So the permanent stalls have gone away to allow for tends to be more dynamically placed. And so the number has been reduced. I will still try to capture solar on the ones that we do have. And we certainly have some also on the fifth floor addition for solar and other opportunities, but yes, you're absolutely right. That was another comment that we did pick up at our last update to you. OK. As we get into the building, as we talked about, kind of the clocked the tower, also want to put a plug in here for, and I want to say, in staff that have been here quite some time can correct me. At one point, didn't we have the clocked tower actually working? If there's a way to do that, that's cost effective. I know there's some particular costs with doing an authentic one, but if there's a way to kind of get that back and I think for folks who have been here in Old Town for quite some time, there was some connection to that when the city did it and I think that'd be need to share. You might wanna share, looks like you wanna share something. Thank you for the question. Madam Mayor and members council. Yes, we've been investigating that as well. There's actually another memo from the 1960s, 1980s, and the rest of it doing the exact same thing. And so here we are again. And yes, we've actually got that part of the scope to investigate and to scope out. We do have the bell that's still upstairs. Right above us. And we know the means and methods to get that ringing again. The prior authorization from 70M to 11PM. So there'll be another future discussion around when it should ring. And should you approve it, how to make that happen. So if council consents, we make a bel ring again. All right. Stepping into the shoes of an employee that works here in the building every day, as we get into kind of what's going to be within the interior spaces as much as you can provide kind of what is the context of safety and security around what we're doing as we kind of renovate the inside? Thank you, Madam Mayor, members of council. So one of the key things I think I alluded to earlier is by opening up the first floor and having those as the main entrance whether we like it out we have two front doors in the chemistry we have King Street those are the natural architectural places that people will go but by opening up this first floor we're able to actually have a better security because we're able to have visibility in terms of both entrances which is really important we anticipate that the upper floors will will also have, I like that I have some security on the second floor because we have a staircase to it, but above that third, fourth, fifth floors would be access control. There'll be like permissions of like bringing folks into space, just to help the flow and also wave finding. We want people to engage and ask questions where they're supposed to be and making sure they know how to get help for what they're here for, right? That's the engagement, that's the civic part of it. And so this design does help us. Right now it's very difficult. As you know downstairs, we have multiple different entrances, it's blocked, it's very hard to see. And so that's a large concern to us and we've incorporated that to the design. By opening it up, it helps all of us. This might be a similar question but as this is a municipal building if we have large scale emergency natural disaster-esque type you know how how does what we're looking at and really designing here accomplish that you know a lot a lot of our rec centers are spaces where the public can run to or come to if there is a big emergency or something like that. With old town, we don't have a lot of those. And so this might be kind of ground zero for old town residents to come if there is a large scale emergency. So is that contemplated within kind of the redesign and what we're doing at City Hall as well? Madam Mayor, members and council, thank you for that question. We have not incorporated in that scope. That is certainly a good question for the design and appropriate for where we're at now in terms of exploring. We don't have full generator capacity. For instance, other things when we do a shelter for whether it's heating, cooling, winter, or other natural disasters that we would incorporate into design, we have not done that level scoping or programming for this budget, for this project, this point. We do have a separate team that is looking at different recreation centers for updating different generators, based on the winter experience and other experiences recently, we know that storms are increasing. We know that the hazards are increasing in terms of the likelihood that those would be used. And so there is a separate team that is working on where appropriate locations in the city that have facilities that would be able to accommodate with the hurricanes. You don't like a lot of glass. Like there's different contexts for different emergencies. And so we've got a great emergency management team that is helping to head that up with Assistant City Manager with Julian González and several others with our team and General Services and City Manager's Office to take a look at that. So I appreciate the response. I would suggest given the lack of municipal buildings in kind of the southeast quadrant within the old town, I think you look at some opening of that scope to do that, I would hate to have a flood, you know, in the lower parts of King Street and people not be able to get to a municipal building that can provide some semblance of shelter. And maybe that's not something that we put in the design. It's maybe something that we go to our emergency folks and say, hey, what is in procedures and potentials for this to convert if needed or if necessary. But I do see that as something that we need to look at how we provide for the southeast quadrant of the city. One thing that you mentioned that I think would be probably hopefully appreciated by the folks at work here, kind of making sure there is a public, publicly inaccessible staff lounge or staff area. As you mentioned, the fifth floor being kind of that secret space that most folks don't know about. I don't know what that looks like or how you build that out, but I do think having something that is specifically for staff that work here would be hopefully something that we can build in as a perk as well. Thank you, Mayor Council. So the image on the right is pretty close to where you would see from an employee lounge. There's a kitchenette on each floor that is afforded space that has access to natural daylight, which is often an afterthought. Unfortunately, in most designs, it gets usually pushed into a corner or somewhere else that employees don't enjoy, and so they spend most of their time at their desk versus places that they can socialize with other colleagues on non-business stuff that builds the business bonds. And so this is actually the image on the right is a pretty close view from the second and the third floors would look like from the kitchenettes for employees. And so that's a appreciate the question and we didn't get into all the design details that we're working on, but it's very on point. And those were actually one of the images we're trying to highlight. Lastly, I promise this last one. Kind of making sure we understand in what we're building out with out with Market Square, the context of the numbers of, I wouldn't say hundreds of buses, but the numbers of buses that are going to be in and around that area, not just the private tour companies, but also knowing that that's a pretty major transit hub as well. So making sure we understand the interplay, particularly I think it's Fairfax Street and kind of what we see there, especially people coming in now the garage right now, that's an interesting mix of vehicles from time to time. And so if there's any way that we can through our design, help with that, that would be great too. Thank you just to quickly sum up the image on the right. We've, that safety has been really important to our design. So we've actually worked with Dash to move the Dash bus around the corner, to the corner of King Street on King Street, and not Fairfax. So as the bus is stack up, it's very difficult to get out of the garage right now. A lot of pedestrian conflicts also that are in the car. And we have a lot of people that are in the car. And we have a lot of people that are in the car. And we have a lot of people that are in the car. And we have a lot of people that are in the car. And we have a lot of people that are in the car. And we have a lot of people that are in the car. folks to get this right. Still a lot of more details. We're still working on the design of the garage, but that is certainly foremost in permitting. You see that early in the design. By moving, you see some benches on the right-hand corner at the lower Fairfax and King Street sort of moving the bus around, we'll still line the tour buses up towards North Royal to stack and do the drop-offs. We have the inlet four of the tours to be pulled off of King Street Street a little bit. So there's a lot of activity and we've been coordinating, make sure, for instance, where the doors open on the bus don't have a tree right there. Like all the different details are being going and spacing bus door openings, wheel wells and the rest of it through this design. So it's a great comment. I'm going to go to Councilwoman Green. I do just a quick question on the parking garage In the design concepts that we're looking at right now. Are we gaining any capacity in the garage or will it stay about the same number of spots? Thank you mayor for the question. So we're exploring right now the potential to add potentially 30 to 40 spots. We know that demand is high. What we're looking at is a potential to lower. We're not adding a full floor, but by resbasing and lowering towards King Street. And potentially go a slightly under-fair facts under the sidewalk, we might be able to gain some. And so the design team makes it exploring the early engineering of that and to capture that now. We're trying to avoid getting too close to the historic structure of their foundations. We're a little nervous, not gonna lie, based on what's holding up this council chamber right now. I don't wanna push my luck, right? And so we are exploring those options to try to capture, we know this is a demand, we know this interest. We're working with the manager's office on what that investment looks like, but I think there's some positive return and we're exploring on how to do that. That's helpful. I guess as we do that, I would be curious to follow that conversation. I think we continue to hear from some of our business owners just how hard it is to even find parking for their employees. And so I think if there's a way to do that, that is safe, and structurally sound, I think that's something we should consider. Councilman Green. Thank you, Madam Mayor and thank you, Mr. Mike. This gets more exciting with every update. So I appreciate it. My first question is about the facade. If we could go back to the facade slide. Okay, as you talked about the King Street facade and the two images there, you did mention something about brick. So will there be no brick on this or as it's proposed on the King Street side? Yes, Madam Mayor, members of the council. Yeah, this still brick, it's essentially a nil-strait of example. This point of preserving is essentially what you see today. There's more of highlighting ways to draw the contrast of features that should have probably been designed in a clothing or a viable style that was done in the 60s, but we're not done. I think the treatment was done because it was more of a back in the house and back door than really an intentional design saying we're the front door. It's just the stage of that early design. So we're working through the material selections with the Board of Architecture Review. This is sort of imaging right now to get the concept. That's why it's sort of in the more shaded, black and white concept on the right side versus what you see in the actual image from the day. So still in the early stages. But yeah, I do like how you've opened up so people can. in the more shaded black and white concept on the right side versus what you see in the actual image from the day. So still in the early stages. But yeah, I do like how you've opened up so people can see which door to go in because people truly don't know. And my second question is back around parking. When Market Square does move, where is there a proposed parking for people that come from out of Valexand? Yeah, thank you for that question. It's a good reminder. We have a lot of activity that happens here. And so we have a lot of swing space that's underway, both the market and city employees, removing hundreds and hundreds of employees in the next couple months. We've already done that first one to Alex Renew. I know many of you were there for that opening, which is appreciated. And so the farmers market itself were planning to move right next door to North Royal Street as well as Tavern Square. We have rights to Tavern Square market on their plaza in our lease currently. And so we're going to engage, we're not trying to move locations far. We have a next door and Tavern Square has parking underneath. So the entire Tavern Square is a large parking structure, multi-storey parking structure directly underneath. We've actually hired and have on our team, person that specializes in markets, farmers markets, and the rest to help them advertise. And so our communications team is also very much already thinking about relocation, how do we advertise the market, let people know it's coming, making sure that market continues to thrive during the interim. Because it's going to be years of downtime. By the time we start construction to the end, this probably going to be three years. There's a lot of work to do here. Simply a lot of work to do. Absolutely. And just a final question, Madam Mayor. When I took my initial tour with my first update, there was talk of elevated seating for the council chambers. Are we, is there more of an update on that? It's hard to demonstrate in this simple model. Let me flip back to one slide. The council chamber on the first floor, we would have a slightly elevated model celebrating that actually the backdrop would be the historic structure Which is just down the hall on the first floor It would be slightly elevated. There's an opportunity because we have to deal with the mechanical space down below the existing space and where the existing coal-fired smoke stack is it would actually drop it down and elevated Providing with the council with the slightly elevated viewpoint and slightly slope-seating. I just have a few quick questions. Can you go back to the slide with the door? I know this is just illustration, but just so I'm clear. Is that meant to be three separate doors? Or am I looking? Yes. Thank you for that question. Yeah. It is sort of presenting as three entries to the same. So three separate doors, signally sort of the appropriate size and scale for the building. If you look at many commercial buildings, you'll see either two or three, based on the mass and scale of the number of visitors. We kind of want to hit this sweet spot. I would just be curious, I mean, I like the massing and the scaling. I think what I'm curious about is I've seen a number of city halls having to close entrances. Like if they have multiple doors, shutting it down to one for safety reasons to make sure that they're able to control the flow of who's going in and out. So, I mean, maybe we could consult with APD or others in the region just to understand. I wouldn't want us to do the grand investment that looks so beautiful. And then we find like we got to put little ropes over it or other things to control that flow. Yeah, appreciate that. One of the advantages of things or lobby design is we're able to do that control control from the inside versus the outside, which allows us to either funnel through stanchions and other things. Typically, when you see those modifications, it's due to limitations of stairs or other in the entry for you. If you're doing, we not plan for any magnetometers and other things, but we have this space to do it. And we're planning if you needed to deploy it in the future, you could. But what would you do as sort of a rope line in the station and people into different spaces? So you see that at the courthouse today, you see different places where you do have multiple doors from next to your entry, but to your point, allowing that flexibility for the security in the future, which is really important. Yeah. I just want to make sure it's functional and safe. Yeah. The other question I had, more of a comment, I really appreciate the intentionality with which staff is working to make sure the building is so accessible. I recently went to the Miracle League of Alexandria and one of the things they talked about or sort of the sensory needs of different populations within our community and how many public buildings within the city do not have kind of those safe spaces if you have sensory challenges. And so I don't know what that looks like within the design or if they're design guidelines or standards we could follow, but I would be curious how we can incorporate some of their feedback, questions, and concerns as well. Along those lines, I also met with the National Federation for the Blind and they too had a number of questions and ideas for how City Hall could be more accessible. And so just wanna make sure as we are trying to open up this space a lot more that we're really making sure we're intentional about reaching out to some of our other communities. Thank you for that note, Mayor. You did send that along to us. And we have reached out and followed up again this week to set up some time and meeting. So thank you for that. Is there all helpful for our design process and at the perfect time to do it? I'll take you with that. And then on the construction note, I know we're pretty far from this, but I guess just something to put in the back of our mind, given all of the work that has gone into the visuals, the videos, and so forth. I think it'd be really interesting to think about, like, while there's probably fencing all around the site, like, how do we cover the fences with, like, artwork of pictures of what this could look like? And maybe there's a partnership with torpedo-turpedo factory artists or others. How do we show people, like like here's what's coming? I also think given some of the videos, I don't know if there's like a QR code or an interactive way, because it is three years. And that's a long time if I came to visit here to keep me interested in coming back. So I just would encourage us to make sure we repurpose all of this work. And then the last part, just the hallway looking through the full-eloss and live lobby, I completely understand we want to keep it as open as possible. I know a number of us have raised safety concerns, so this is completely counter to that. But it just feels so open and empty. So I just wonder like what it will take to make that space more inviting. And if that means furniture, if that means interactive kiosks, so I can plan my visit or even plan how to navigate this building, if that's art, but I just would hate to see it be that open. That feels very cold. Any other? Thanks, Mayor Bagley. Just along the lines of the interim, I mean, I was recently, this is going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to go back to the question. I'm going to around the site, you can see, you know, Notre Dame still like poking out, and obviously it's almost done. But the signs themselves that lock off the site are an educational experience and have like interesting stories about, you know, the trusses and about the boilers and about the forest where the wood came from that they went to go make it similar. And so along the lines that the mayor was saying, like how do we keep the space sort of vibrant interactive? There's so much history here that there's an opportunity potentially in fairly permanent, probably fencing to become an experience, an educational or historical experience. And then, so I just wanted to throw that out there that, you know, I'm glad you mentioned that. And then finally, I don't know if there's an answer to this tonight, but to your point about this being in every 60 year process, so this is gonna be our city hall until 209090. I mean, when you say that, you sort of stop and think about it that way. And so I'm wondering how are we able to creatively build a space that can move with technology? I'm not asking how do we make the building of 2090, but how do we make a building that isn't locked off from what 2050, 60, 70 can do? Let's not close any doors or foreclose any options that we don't know of yet. And I hear how challenging it is when I'm saying, but I would hate to find a memo like that, from us in 10 years saying, oh, we wish we, we have thought about this differently. So just to constantly be reflecting back and saying, what decisions could we make now that would foreclose an astronomical advance in, you know, certain technology and power in elevator and escalate, you know, these sorts of things. Thank you, Mayor and members. You see the city manager smiling over there that's been one of his strong, you know, how do we make it much more flexible for the future? So the same engine has been definitely on point and pushing that very, very message. So. I was I leaned over to Councilman Chapman because I figured this is where the former mayor would make a joke about the future. And I couldn't think of anything fast enough and he didn't have any help. Councilman Richamon. Thank you. The one question, as we've gone through this process that continues to be top of mind for me is cost. I know we talk about, we've talked about a number of changes and experience, but I want to continue to be mindful of cost as we add new things or, you know, the, like we said, the clock tower or what have you. As, you know, if there's opportunities to get some of that financial information to council about kind of what the ranges are, I know there's been additional money added in CIP for what we want to do, but I do want to kind of continue to be respectful of of the cost concerns to do that. So, I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. So, I think that's a good idea. if there's going to be additional spaces, that means there's going to be additional cars coming through that help provide a level of revenue. If we have a ticket office, I think I saw. So that's an opportunity to be kind of more front-facing with the public around some of the programs, initiatives, opportunities that we have. If we can continue to highlight those things as we talk to the public about the cost of this and ways that, you know, council and city government are thinking that we are going to be able to stretch the taxpayer dollar as with this project. Well, thank you, Mr. Rick Pike. Mr. Manager, do you have any additional? Just one more. I notice in the back, we have our interim transportation of our environmental services director, Michael Moon. Michael, if you'd stand up. Welcome. So, Mike recently retired from Arlington County, and he has tremendous three decades experience in transportation, environmental services, public works, operations, and he's really a valuable resource for us for the period where we're looking forward to our recruitment. And with his knowledge and experience, we're really looking forward to continue to make good changes and create some opportunities in that department as well as in the old organization. So really thrilled that he's offered to join us for our short part period of time. Thank you. Well, we're so glad to have you. I know you've been here two weeks, and I've already a number of trucks and out with our front line crews and Have made some really great observations. So thank you With that madam clerk next item action docket regular consent calendar 9 or 19 Is there a motion to approve the action consent? Docket items 9 through 19 so moved all right there has been a motion by councilwoman green and a second by vice mayor Bagley to approve the consent calendar items 9 through 19 any discussion It all those in favor say aye any opposed say nay All right the eyes have it madam clerk next item action matters contested appointments Okay, I'm going to go through our contested appointments. As is our practice, I will read the commission. I will then read the names of those who receive votes and then announce the majority vote getter. After we go through all of them, I will then request motion to appoint the majority vote getters for each board in commission. Please note that if you are looking to see the vote tallies and all of the names, you can find that in the minutes. Okay, the first one is the Archaeological Commission and we needed one at large member and Raymond S. Arrestman received six votes of the council and is our majority vote getter. The next commission is the beautification commission. We need an appointment of one citizen member and Elizabeth Gelfer, the incumbent received all six votes of the council. So it's the majority vote, Kitter. Next is the board of zoning appeals. for Tado received a vote and Andrew Justice also received votes. Andrew Justice received five votes out of green Chapman, Gaskins, Bagley, and on Newbie. Winston received one vote out of Councilman Aguirre. And so Mr. Justice is appointed to the commission. Next is the Budget and Fiscal Affairs Advisory Committee. Sam Gunther received one vote, that of the Councilman Chapman. Erica Kaster received four votes. Gaskin's Bagley, Green, Aguirre, and Charlie Loyalis received one vote, that of Councilman Elnubi. Erica Kaster is the majority vote-gator. Next is the Commission for Women. Eva Banniston received four votes at the Council, Green Chapman, Gascans, Elnubi, and Vanita Data received two, Bagley, and Aguirre. Eva Banniston is the majority vote-gitter. Next is the Commission on Information Technology. Lawrence, Atlamburg received two votes, that of Green and Chapman. Don Rubin received four. Gaskins, Bagley, Elnubi, Aguirre. Next is the Community Services Board for one citizen member. Joan Porch received one vote, Councilwoman Green. And Michelle Walls received five votes. Chapman, Gaskins, Bagley, El Nubi, and Aguirre. I will now entertain a motion to approve the majority vote getters as they have been read into the record. There's been a motion by Vice Mayor Bagley and a second by Councilwoman Green to approve the majority vote getters for the Archaeological Commission beautification commission, the board of zoning appeals, the budget and fiscal fairs advisory commission, the commission on information technology and the community services board. This is a roll call vote, Madam Clerk, please call the roll. I smear badly, councilwoman green. Hi. Mayor Gaskins, Councilman McGuirey, Councilman Chapman, Councilman Elano-Nubi. Hi. All right, motion carries. Madam Clerk, next item. Consideration of changes to the City Council procedure over resolution. Okay, so I'm going to kick us off and then we have both the City Manager, the clerk and the City Attorney to answer questions or to go in deeper detail. For context, at the beginning of the year I asked our staff, I said, you guys have watched hundreds and hundreds of these meetings. What might be your recommendations for how we could have a more efficient meeting and continue moving forward the business of the city. And so I worked with them to put forth some recommendations to update our procedural resolution which is how we establish the rules of our procedure. And so there are a few changes that are being recommended. The first is the establishment of a single consent docket. I think as people have seen tonight, there's a regular consent docket, and then there's another roll call consent docket. This is proposing one consent docket that would then be voted on with a roll call vote. The second is the establishment of a deadline for council members to remove any items from consent. The idea here was that in order for staff to really have time to prepare, it's helpful for them to know in advance if an item that is on consent is going to be pulled so that they can prepare a presentation or any additional points that might be needed. And so the proposal here was a request that by 5 p.m. the day before you can your recommendations for consent. The third proposal was to limit the number of proclamations and recognitions to two at legislative meetings and then also allow space for them to be presented at public hearings to an unlimited amount. The reason for this folks may know proclamations are a process where the mayor received them. I go through them with my aid, and then we kind of decide how to put them out. We get a ton of requests. I think we got over 30 last month. Everyone wants their proclamation presented at the council meeting. And so it's a little challenging, and so this gives us more space to space them out over several meetings. but then we're not here late into the evening, but also allows more opportunity for recognition among members of the community. The next would be to move oral reports from members of the city council to the top of the docket after oral reports on boards and commissions. My thinking here was when you guys give or when all of us give our oral reports at the end, there's like really great information in those oral reports. Half the time there's nobody left in the meeting when we're giving those reports. And so being able to move those to the top allows us to present the information when the public is paying attention, can hear about upcoming events, can hear about events that have happened or other things that they can get involved and engaged in as well. And then the last one would be to move board appointments to the end of the meeting after the roll call consent, ordinances and resolutions. The recommendation for that is because that's, I mean we just did it. It's a pretty quick process to have the business and the and the discussion and the other things that we are doing at the beginning of the meeting. I think again allows for more people to be a part of the conversation or see the conversation and then we can just roll through that other information at the end. And then the last piece I won't go through all of these are several kind of just technical changes. I know I think somebody mentioned earlier the grammatical area error. So just of some things to clean up To just clean up the overall resolution So that is the proposal. I'm looking forward to your feedback and discussion There any questions are Councilman a giri I Know I I wanted to Thank the mayor for spearheading and raising this item. I think it's interesting serving in my first term. You assume things have always been done a certain way. I appreciate the opportunity for us to consider new things, listen to feedback from staff. I really appreciate the opportunity to hopefully save staff being here late hours on consent items if they're going to remain on consent. So I just want to indicate my support and appreciation and optimism that will adopt this new resolution and hopefully see it result in some improved meeting structures. Um... Okay, I just see a little hands. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'm somewhat agnostic on some of the things and happy to support others. The one concern I had was in Section 2, Section 2, number one, letter A with the council members asking to remove roll call items by 5 p.m. the day before. And I totally understand we were coming with to be able to have staff properly prepared. My only issue is that sometimes life just happens. And so I just wanted to share what actually happened this weekend. So the docket was put out, I believe, on Thursday. I flew in Thursday morning from Los Angeles, went directly, well, to show our first, went too many Howard for a commitment I had there and went directly to the economic summit and from the economic summit went directly to a play and immediately after the play went home and passed out. Friday, meetings all day and an event in the evening that went until the night And then Saturday had events from essentially 10 to 4 and then because it was Mother's Day weekend I chose to go see my mom which Both disclosures in North Carolina so I had to get in a car drive for four hours Sunday I typically take for myself and I Absolutely could have looked at the docket and some of these other items however I chose to spend time with my mother. Monday morning I drove back up again meetings and we were here at City Hall until eight for the subcommittee on boards and commissions and so I actually didn't really get to see anything until about 83030 last night. And that's not to say, what was me or to make excuses. All I'm saying is that life just kind of happens sometimes. And so I wouldn't want to restrict us in that. Personally, I always want to inform staff beforehand if I'm going to choose to pull something. That is my personal practice. And I believe in that because I don't want to catch stuff off guard. I do want to talk about these kind of things and have productive conversations. But because of that, I also am not an agreement with having, if it's not removed in time deferring and the other items, if I don't want to stime me discussion in any way, but I would be an agreement and make a motion to prove everything that you kind of said, just with specifically section two, number one, letter A, striking from if, to the end of the paragraph, which I think is just an acceptance, and inserting, and after it says roll call consent items, they are highly encouraged to notify the city clerk, by phone or email no later than 5 p.m. Does that make sense or should I repeat that? What I am hearing is that there is a motion to approve with an amendment to section 2 number 1 item a that would strike the final sentence and change the language of the first sentence to should a council member wish to remove an item from roll call consent items. They shall. Oh no, because you can't just put highly it should be like they shall be highly encouraged to notify the clerk. Is that work? They are highly encouraged. They are. Okay, there we go. So we'll take the shall notify and it would be they are highly encouraged to notify the city clerk by phone or email no later than 5 p.m. The day before the applicable meeting. So there's a motion on the floor is there a second. Second any discussion. The second was Councilman on Newbie. There's an emotion by Councilman a query and a second by Councilman Akeiri. Any discussion? I guess I will just say I do support that. I empathize with life happens. There have been many times when I have not had a chance to read and then I'm pulling it all and I'm canceling meetings to catch up so I can agree with that. I think I appreciate you adding in at least language that encourages folks of a deadline. I think it is really important for us to just all be able to prepare. I was thinking even some of the items on consent today don't even have a formal presentation. So if it's coming off, being able to have a little bit of time to put together a slide or some points to prep. But I really appreciate Council's support on this and I thank you for moving it forward. So with that, there has been a motion by councilman Aguirre and a second by Councilman Elnubi and this is a roll call vote so Madam Clerk please call the roll. Councilman Aguirre. Councilman Elnubi. Mayor Gaskins. Hi. Vice Mayor Bagley. Councilman Chapman. Councilwoman Green. Aye. Thank you. Madam Clerk, next item. Introduction in first reading consideration of the first reading of an ordinance to a man title 11, chapter five, noise ordinance to ban the use of gas power at leaf lowers. And I think this one we do have a little presentation, so we'll give staff a second to get set up. Good evening Madam Mayor, members of the council. I'm Jesse Maynes. I'm the stormwater management division chief with transportation environmental services. As probably most of you know, Bill Scrave-back retired after 27 years of service to the city. And so we're picking up some of the work that he had started. I'm here with Melissa Atwood, senior environmental specialist with the office of environmental quality. So we want to talk to you all tonight about the first reading of noise ordinance amendments to ban the use of gas powered leaf blower in the city. So first just a summary here. The staff request is to consider the noise code amendments to phase out or ban the use of gas power leaf blowers The city council action would be to to approve the introduction and first reading of the noise ordinance amendments To ban the use of gas power leaf blowers with two year phase out period we can discuss and that would be July 1, 20, 27 Also to set the ordinance for public hearing and final passage on Saturday, May 17th of 2025 the Saturday of the city. The city of the city is the the current and final passage on Saturday, May 17th of 2025, the Saturday. The key elements we're going to talk about tonight is the ban, the phase out period, and when that ban would be complete also for the city, which would be a faster phase out. So, you agenda items, just I don't think we need to run through them, but we'll get onto the next slide and get through the agenda. Yes, so the background is, as you all probably know, in the beginning of this year, the general assembly, there was a couple bills to ban the use of gas power leaf blowers that really didn't go anywhere. And because of that, Deligate Bennett Parker asked the Attorney General for an opinion on whether the city has the authority currently to ban them. And the Attorney General did say yes based on this section 2.04 that we do have the authority to ban leaf blowers. Currently, Lawn, law and garden equipment is regulated by the hours of operation in the noise code and we're not proposing a change to that. So a couple of things, you know, the reason we're looking at a ban here is kind of twofold. It's the unnecessary noise that is caused by gas-powered leaf floors and we'll get into discussions a little bit more on that. And also the environmental effects are the emissions from the gas-powered leaf blowers. We looked at a few studies from EPA and others that pretty much stated that electric leaf blowers are quieter even at the same decibel levels, which kind of seem strange. You know, they're usually less decibels in the gas power, but even if they're kind of close, it's the noise that's emitted from the gas-powered leaf blower. It's a lower frequency. It carries farther and can penetrate into homes as well. They also do emit the gas-powered leaf blower as emit of volatile organic compounds or VOCs and small-forming pollution. And one of the studies that talked about running a gas-powered leaf blower for about an hour is comparable to driving from DC to Miami in a new car. So some of the benefits do go along the same lines of why we're looking to, while we're bringing this band to you all. The noise levels in the city we have received a lot of complaints. It's a quality of life issue. It's also a health issue. It reduces the noise exposure to the operator as well. So the folks that are out there running these gas-powered leaf blowers for hours and hours as part of crews, they hear it. It breathes in the smog, or the VOC's are being emitted as well. So it is that air pollution portion, or if you will. Also I'd like to mention that there is nitrogen or noxids in the discharges of these emissions. So it also ends up being pollution in the Chesapeake Bay, right? So we all know the bad air quality turns into bad stormwater quality, which turns into bad water quality in the Chesapeake Bay. There's also a component of greenhouse gas emissions. So when we talk about climate change, right? Reducing these emissions is good for the environment and the climate as well. So the community outreach that was conducted, the approach was to notify businesses and residents on their proposed ban. Also to receive feedback from the community. So there were two hybrid meetings that were held March 13th and 26, about 85 participants. There were surveys that were done, we were receiving feedback, having some Q&A discussion during those meetings as well. There were calls and emails that were made to landscaping companies, use the suite of our communications from social media, eNews to our website. And on our website too, also a dedicated email about our website, there are English and Spanish surveys. Those were also passed out for people to respond to. Now as you can probably assume that there was strong support from the community for a total ban from residents, boards and commissions, and from civic organizations. They supported a shorter phase out time, less than a year, do a quick do it now. They also had concerns about quality of life, excessive use, enforcement that was needed, and alternative options and education for the programs. Those are the highlights of what we heard from the community feedback. Then the landscape company feedback, those about 57 landscape businesses that were identified that's through business license They have a license to do business in the city a hundred percent of those were called the email reached out a lot Twelve of those provided comments some of the over arching concerns that we heard from them were the operational cost You know it would take longer to do this work. They might need more workers They had you know questions about and concerns concerns about the technology, about battery power and battery life, and how to charge them. And some of the upfront costs for transition. Now this is a big range here from $3,600 to $100,000. The $3,600 represents the smaller, less than five employees. Somewhere in the middle, there was the five to 10 employees and this 100,000 number came from a company with over 15 employees. So we didn't go and fact check all this. We just, this is a feedback we received. There was also a presentation on the use and that was in April 28th and 29th to receive feedback. A little information on other jurisdictions, Washington DC has enacted a ban on use for the four year phase out period that ended in January 22. Montgomery County had a ban on sale and the use with a one and two year phase out peer respectively so ban the sell in one year and then ban the use after two years. The city of Napolis, Maryland had a ban on the use with a one year phase out period. Sorry. So again, the staff recommendations are to adopt a total ban on the use of gas-powered leaf blowers to improve the introduction of first reading of the noise-ordinated amendments before you. And also, that includes this two-year phase out period. And to set the ordinance for public hearing and final passage on Saturday, May 17th, this Saturday, I should probably chime in a little bit about this two year phase out period why it was chosen. And we had the residents, the community, the boards and commissions were looking for the quicker phase out within one year. And the companies were asking for three or more years, right? So we think two years provides a good time. It's soon enough for the community, but it's not too soon for the landscape companies and it provides them some time when, you know, when the equipment breaks down and they have to do a new purchase, they can start the transition to electric powered leaf floors. So it gives them a little bit more time with the two years as well. So city government would have a one-year phase out. So we'd leave by example. There's been some funding you all approved and FY26 for that to include not only the phase out but also an additional inspector, right? So we have a noise inspector now. The budget provides for another inspector that would be working when the other noise inspector isn't. And of course they can do other things and enforce on other things, but one of their main roles will be for noise. And there's some discussion. We talked a little bit about incentive programs. That's the other thing about the two year. We think that kind of hits the sweet spot, if you will, that it gives the landscape company's time for the phase out, but it doesn't draw it out too long. So we can talk about incentives, but our thought process there was, they're on the table, but we think the two year maybe makes those incentives go away. And this is the timeline. We're here now presenting to you all. We performed outreach. So we're in May 2025. If you do want to talk about incentives, then we need to go back and look at those and put some of that policy together over the summer and then come back to you all to have discussions about what that may look like. And then in July 26th with the city government phase out, and July 2027 would be the final phase out in the band for the gas powered leaf blower use citywide. So again, the summary here would be for the phase, the first reading and second reading on the Saturday. Okay. That's all I have. Thank you. Councilman Chapman. I appreciate the presentation. I think one of the things I saw in here and a quick question for staff is noted that in some other jurisdictions did not only use and the use but also being the sale. Give me your thoughts on kind of why you didn't kind of want to include that. Excuse me. After speaking with our city attorney's office, we really don't have the legal power right to do the sale. That's what I thought. Okay, I appreciate that. Madam Mayor, I may not open the, I guess the real conversation for us is probably going to be on kind of the timeline. So if that's the case, I'd just go ahead and put a motion on the floor to approve, excuse me, to introduce on first reading an ordinance amendment to ban the use of gas powered leafblowers with a two year phase out. I know we'll have some discussion to introduce on first reading and ordinance amendment to clarify that the general decipl limitations do not apply to power law and garden equipment as those are regulated by hours rather than decipl and three set the ordinance for public hearing and final passage on Saturday, May 17th, 2025. There has been a motion. Is there a second? There's been a motion by Councilman Chapman and a second by Councilwoman Green. Any discussion? Councilman on Newbie. Thank you Madam Mayor. And thank you Councilman Chapman. I guess a couple of comments first. I appreciate staff reaching out. Pro. I appreciate staff reaching out. Pro. I appreciate staff reaching out. Pro. I appreciate staff reaching out. Pro. and thank you, Councilman Chapman, for putting the motion on the floor. I guess a couple of comments first. I appreciate staff reaching out, proactively reaching out to every business that we have on the books and actually calling and emailing and trying to get feedback. I think for me, the biggest concern was the impact on small businesses when you guys came to us in January and how that band would impact small businesses. And that's why I was in favor of a two year phase out. And seeing that only 12 responded and I don't know where the rest are. So to me, that's also kind of telling. I don't know why the rest didn't respond. But to me, if that was important, I would have expected more people to respond if this was a big concern. That's just me. that's what I'm making out of it. The other thing is, I think if you can go back to that slide, like that point really struck me that operating the gas leaf blower for one hour, that struck me right there. And that's what's making me think we should probably shorten that the period in two years. I understand it's gonna impact small businesses, but I think given what we've seen and what we've heard, I personally would think maybe even like, I would say, instead of two years maybe do like 16 months, or 18 months. I heard the channel feedback was three years. I would say halfway between that would be 18 months. I don't know where my colleagues are. Obviously this is open for discussion. Also the cost. And I heard you guys talk about incentives. So we're also going to try to help just not going to leave people there. So hopefully we can figure out some sort of incentive to mitigate as much as we can. But to me it's like, you know, if we can shorten that, that's, that's very important. The hundred K cost to me is also kind of like, I don't know what to make of it, because how much is it costing the city to replace our whole, yes, leaf blower thing? Is it like 20,000, 25,000, 20,000? What was it? 75? So the whole city's costing a 75, and some is going to cost like 100k. So that to me, I don't know, but that's, you know, that to me is interesting. So, anyways, with that, yeah. I personally would favor a shorter even phase out if my colleagues are admirable to that. And I'm happy to hear my colleagues. Okay, I think Fates Mayor Bagley was up next. Yeah, no, thank you for staff for working on this. We are groundbreaking potentially in the Commonwealth of Virginia and tackling this issue. And I appreciate my colleague pointing out, these are so much worse than driving a car. I mean, it's just the nature of like the two cycle engine that it produces, you know, higher volumes and worse emissions than driving a car does. So I agree, I think it's a health issue, it's a hearing issue, and it's a solvable issue with an electric leaf blower, if you're committed to, you know, leaf flowing. I'd also just note, and I share my colleague's desire for a conversation about, you know, is there a shorter period that we could consider for tonight's purposes? I'm happy to support the motion that's on the floor and get us to Saturday and maybe have a fuller dialogue. But I agree. I think I'm interested in, you know, is 18 months. And it might seem like we're splitting hairs, but the reality is there already banned in DC for three years already, I think since 2022. It's been effective. And so there are landscaping companies that already exist that are doing this all season in NDC. And the ban in Montgomery County goes into effect July of this year, just another month or two, I believe. There are two-year period phases that goes into effect. And my understanding is there's 100 other jurisdictions or so around the country that have done this. So my hope is also that as battery power improves and as prices come down, the financial impact over those 18 months, natural wear and tear and turnover, you know, in product inventory. So I'm pleased to support the motion. I really appreciate staff moving on this swiftly. We only got this legal opinion, I think, late in the fall of last year. And but did want to indicate my hope that however we pass this tonight that we can, you know, talk in the next few days and then consider perhaps on Saturday, a slightly shorter phase in period. Okay, thank you, Vice Mayor Bagley. I guess what I would say is I do appreciate what you both have raised. I think I too am leaning towards a shorter time period. I would not be in favor of anything less than 18 months because I do think it is important to strike a balance and we had some good feedback. I think from our business community and I want to make sure we're not moving out too much of an accelerated pace that I too would be open to that conversation. I think there are a couple ways we could proceed since this is just docketing for first reading. We could support the motion and have additional discussion on Saturday or we could do a friendly amendment tonight. Other comments? Councillor Minigurri. I actually had several questions that I didn't get a chance to talk to staff about, given what I just said about my schedule over the weekend. So starting off with the survey responses, How many did we receive in Spanish? Melissa outward with environmental qualities. Sorry. We got from the businesses. We got two that were in Spanish that were returned. One was a call on the phone. Didn't necessarily go through all the exact questions. The other one was returned to us from comments from the Spanish comment cards. I don't think we got any back from them from what was posted online or available at the meetings. I guess between down a Saturday if you guys don't mind sharing the comments with me. So I didn't, I never got to see them. You say, impressive that we were able to contact all 57 businesses. How many of them responded back? 12th, 4th, bonded. Okay, so that was, that's going to be a follow-up comment because said to be received 12 comments and I was curious if it was duplicates from the same people if there was just Individuals so 12 witnesses responded was there any type of second follow-up with phone calls or emails To the businesses that responded no to the businesses that did not respond We started with emails for those that we had emails from. If we did not hear back from them and or whether they provided comments and we needed to follow up with them, we did with phone calls. Some of them we did phone call and email and still didn't hear back. Left messages. Good to hear. Yeah, because sometimes you know just sending an email isn't enough sometimes just making a phone call isn't enough so appreciate the efforts on trying to do both definitely encouraging around the incentive program. I think it was during one of the budget work sessions I brought up while I'm in In favor of doing this, I still wanted to retain a few gas power leaf blowers in our inventory as fail safes, something happens. I think the other thing too is that I wanted to make sure that we have a variety of inventory when we start purchasing electric leaf blowers. I don't want us to just go out and just get. I know from a purchasing standpoint, it makes sense, but because the technology is changing so quickly and if there's supply issues, maintenance issues, maybe we see one is working better than the other, I don't want us to be stuck with just one model, especially given a couple of comments I've got from someone saying that their leaf blower, electric leaf blower, isn't doing that great. But again, I do believe in the technology being able to advance quickly and to that point, like I said, having different inventory, having that variety, I think will be beneficial to us. And also, we get to decide which little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a the quicker phase out, I am still in favor of a two year phase out. Councilwoman Green and then vice mayor Bagley. Thank you the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. I'm going to go to the council. One is to offer a friendly amendment moving to Councilman Chapman's motion moving it to 18 months from phase out from 24. Okay so I guess my question on beat Councilman Chapman are you in favor of that amendment? So I do and I think sure I'll accept that and a reason for that I think one of the the things that might be beneficial is coming out of this meeting. I think the Vice Mayor said it. Coming out of this meeting, understanding for the public hearing what we kind of want to do allows the public to either come down to City Hall or not based on kind of what they feel council is going to do. And so if the thought is to look at 18 months, we can take that to Saturday and hear from people versus take two years with the intention of doing 18 months versus and then hear from hopefully business community that might come and show up or the public and hear what the potential is. I'm open to 18 months as well. So I accept that. Madam Mayor, I'm sorry, one other thing. Yes, I, yes, really quickly. I wanted to also make sure that the, I guess the incentive program that we do hear more on that. You said there's a summer, by summer we needed to have that completed. I would like to hear options on that. Thank you. Okay, so then it appears that there would be a new motion on the table that has been proposed by Councilman Chapman and seconded by Councilwoman Green. That would be, I'm sorry, Mr. Mains, can you go back to the last slide? I just want to remember all three parts of this. That would approve the introduction and first reading of the noise code provisions to the ban. The use of gas powered leaf blowers with a 18-month phase out for the community and set the ordinance for public hearing and final passage on Saturday, May 17th, 2025. Any discussion? I guess I need to go to guess that's what you had to end up, thanks Mayor Bagley. And I think my colleague, Councilman Aguieri, speaking to the inventory and the purchasing and then Councilman Green raising it as well, something that I failed to ask during my briefing that occurred to me later and is, might as an incentive program, might the city be able to do purchasing at a scale that would lower the cost that we can then sell? I don't know how feasible that is, but if there's a purchasing model that allows us to facilitate for Alexandria registered businesses, reduce price if we're able to leverage our purchasing power somehow for businesses that responded and signed up. Once obviously we knew, you know, the models that are working best for us, or, and also if we had businesses coming to us and saying, we won't be able, you know, we're not going to make it in 18 months. You know, what can you do to support us if there's an option at that point for some sort of rebate voucher program, you know, both purchasing. I just wanted to put that out there as a concept. I'd be interested just legally if we're allowed to use our purchasing power in that way and how we would facilitate such a thing. Let me start with the city attorney. We can certainly look into the ideas that we're flushing out. I know we had already talked about the incentive program and ways that we can go about doing that. So we're happy to take your ideas, vet them through the law, and then come back when give you all kind of our best guidance. Manager, were you also trying to...any other? I did have a question for discussion before we move on. I really appreciated what Councilman McGuire said about kind of, as we are buying new equipment, as we're thinking about this, if we do keep some in our back inventory, as I read this, it's prohibited at the end. So I'm just wondering how that works. If we've come into a time when, like, I don't know, all of them are down or they're not charged or whatever the things, or we can't get enough supply. And we pull out one of those, and we're violating our own law. So can somebody just walk me through that? Yes, we would be violating our own law if we didn't use the law. We wouldn't be violating the law if we kind of kept them somewhere, but as soon as we started using them, then we'd be in violation of our own ordinance. OK. I guess that I'm wondering, yeah, okay, maybe this is I was trying to address the piece of like as we are trying to purchase as we were trying to come up to speed. When this goes into effect versus when we have the equipment it needs, but I guess it is. It is what it is. We just need to get our stuff as soon as we need to get it and be ready for day one. I think that's what I'm seeing from head sign. Okay. Councilman Elnibi. Okay. Nope. Did you hear of another? Okay. Then there is a motion and a second on the table. This is a roll call or a regular. This is a regular. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Say nay. Okay. All right carries. All right, Madam Clerk, miss it. Or reports and or presentations by members of City Council. Any oral reports? Oh yeah. You did it. You did tell us your whole weekend already. All right. Any. Okay. Councilman. Gary. So back on April 23rd, I just wanted to draw the community's attention to the the remembered ceremony that we held for Joseph and Koi. Mayor gave some very excellent remarks followed by a very excellent keynote speaker. We wanted to make sure that we are still honoring their memory on the 24th. I was able to stop by the Athenaeum for poem in your pocket. It was one of the first events for, was now our new Poet Laureiet, but at the time they were crossing so our former Poeloriet was still acting, but then the incoming was MC in the event. If I said that properly, I think I did. That same night I was able to stop by Patrick Henry Rec Center for the E. World Park Open House. I want to come in staff for the work that they've done on that. They really took two concepts and kind of created a hybrid, taking into consideration a lot of the commentary that was brought in from the community, taking into consideration sight lines, open space, additional space for recreation and basketball courts, activating certain areas, making sure that the kids, younger children on playgrounds are closer to the Duke Street, and also potentially having space for a small building that may or may not go into the CIP, depending on how things go. But on the 25th, I stopped by the chicken pin center where the teen science cafe was discussing quantum computing way over my head, but very cool to see that some of the high school kids were interested, engaged, and actively learning. And thank you to the students from the University of Maryland that came to present on some of it. That was a very intriguing. Also wanted to say a big thank you to both Kendall Taylor and Bill Scraback, who we just heard a little bit about both retired at the end of April, and wanted to thank them both for their 25 plus years of service to the city of Alexandria. On the 25th, stopped by historic Alexandria's volunteer celebration, Councilwoman Green was presenting awards and pulled Councilman Oluvi and I to shake hands. I mean, they had a mouth full of food. It was still okay. We're going to give a big thank you to the Alexandria chapter of the Zadafide Bay Data Supporting Incorporated for hosting their annual Vita Cross America event this year at Burke Library. And had a good time. The weather didn't hold up for us, but it's okay. Hopefully we'll have better weather next year. Also, the Office of Historic Alexandria had one of their fundraisers with a whiskey tasting. Sad out to Councilmember Bagley. They were strong whiskeys. And a very good tour of the whiskeys and Scala and everything with the tour guy, the guy who was giving the presentation on everything. I'll say the 26th, one of the premier events in Alexandria, the Scholarship Fund of Alexandria Gala, always a good time, had a really big, had a great blast there. So thank you to all the organizers and of course, all the funds go for a really great, great cause, which is scholarships to our youth at ACHS. On the 29th, we kicked off this year's round of community cookouts. And we were at Mount Vernon Community School. And there was a great turnout, plenty of vendors, lots of attendance. And this year we have turkey dogs. So just shout out on that one. On the 30th, passed our budget. Yeah, we already talked a lot about that. So moving on to the second, I was excited to host and welcome members from the Sacramento Council of Governments who were during a tour of some of the Northern Virginia localities, transit focus, transit oriented development projects that were in the region. And also welcome the 20th anniversary of the Young Elected Officials Network, which was ongoing at the same time throughout that weekend. And then wanted to give a quick shout out to Code Administration for hosting their 13th annual Building Safety Month right here in Market Square. There were some fun events. I had to miss out because of being with SA Cog, but it's okay, hopefully I can make it next year. Then on the third, much to my chagrin, my wife made me race a 14 year old with parachutes on our backs. I clearly did not win, almost pulled my hamstring. But it was a great time at RecFest. So if you have missed out on RecFest, it is fun for the whole family. Please go check it out. It travels between different locations throughout the city, but RecFest is a ton of fun and for all ages, I promise. From there, traveled down to Oakland Baptist Church for their health fair. Lots of really great information being shared, some really good vendors downstairs. And then stopped by the job fair that was being jointly done with Congressman Byer's office as well as our neighbors in Northern Virginia, for Franks County, Arlington County of Falls Church. And I was hosted at GW, thank you to GW for hosting. It was impressive in the scale, but disappointing in the fact that we even have to be doing this. Unfortunately, what's happening at the federal level is a bit of a travesty, and we had over 2,000 people show up at the middle school looking for jobs. From there, traveled down into Chitidhilawa, shout out to the TW Youth. They were having a fundraiser and car wash. My car got cleaned, thank you very much. Then went out to Vandorn Station, when I make sure I got the right Vandorn Station out Vandorn Plaza, where we had a community walk, hosted by the Health Department and some other groups. Alive hosted us in their food hub center and we did a walk around Van Dorn station. I think it was one of the things that we forget sometimes is that when we're driving by something, we don't necessarily pay attention to all the small details, but when you're walking through it and have to have that experience going slowly, seeing what it's like next to the traffic, seeing if there's any shade, seeing if the sidewalks crack or not is A wide enough, really changes your perspective and what we're doing in the city and how we're trying to maintain different parts of the city. So very, very informative community walk looking forward to some of what comes out of that. Then on the fourth, I wanted to give a quick shout out to Act for Alexandria and their youth council. They had their activating youth lead change in Alexandria. Last year, a lot of really great projects, so I'm excited to hear the read out from this year's activities. On the sixth, I was in Los Angeles for the National Association of Latino Elected Officials. Polyvcy Institute on Economic Mobility. I'm proud to say that many of the things that we're talked about, we are actually actively engaging and doing here in Alexandria. So this was a collection of elected officials from across the country, small and large cities and towns. And as I said, very proud of the efforts that we're doing here in Alexandria, I was able to share a lot with folks from across the country with some of what we're doing and that other folks are going to try and implement across the country. So this is Randall. On the eighth, student policy. Oh, on the eighth, went to many Howard and was helping out the classroom because the students were doing projects. They're doing student policy surveys, creating research surveys to address issues that they see within the school system. It was interesting because there's issues that we have definitely talked about up here and that the school board has definitely talked about whether it was mental health Traveling between campuses overcrowding on buses and other issues so Very impressed with the work that they were doing and looking forward to the follow-up on the results of those surveys And then of course on the eighth we had our economic summit. So thank you to ADP and everybody else involved with organizing that And then that night went to the play at Nanny Lee, put on by Monumentum Inc. And it was Joseph and the amazing Technicolor Dream Coat. Amazing job by all of the folks at all the youth and children that took part in the play. And the scenery and colors and dancing and music was awesome. On the ninth, traveled out to Wolftrap for MVFS's Celebration of Service, formerly the Rotten Independence Scala MVFS, one of the premier nonprofits in Northern Virginia. I would say in the region who also humbly had their beginnings here in Alexandria. They celebrated their 100 year anniversary. I believe last year at the torpedo factory. So I just want to give them a quick shout out. And lastly on the 10th, I stopped by ADP's Caffeciptos at Veronica's in Chidi Lawa, where ADP is making sure to be in the community, reaching out to businesses and making themselves available to support and connect with resources from there, travel to the Eco City Festival where our vice-mayor gave some remarks. And then against my better judgment, I went against Councilman Olnoubi in a rock climbing contest. I did not stretch just for the record. Ha ha ha ha ha. And evidently, I did lose to Councilman Olnoubi graciously, and he made it to the top before I did. But I'll juxtapide great, great job, shout out to all the staff that helped put together EcoCity Festival this year. The day was beautiful, lots of great vendors and resources and city tents and tables, Lots of really great information. Lots of people were out and about asking questions. Was a lot of fun. And then at the end of that day, I had the opportunity to stop by with the mayor at a ribbon cutting for a new dentistry that will be opening just off of Route 1. And we welcomed Dr. K to Alexandria and wish him the best with his business and with that Madam Mayor, I am done. Thank you. Councilman Chapman. Thank you Madam Mayor. Quickly wanted to thank everybody who came to and engaged in the economic summit last week. It is hopefully a starting point for us to really lay out the next set of economic development philosophy and priorities for the city, whether it be small business, big business, and how we attract and retain business. So please check out the website. I believe there's a survey that's gonna come out as well. Please let us know your thoughts with that so that we can really put together some real strategy for how we move forward with economic development in the city. I also wanted to let the council know that on Monday, and I know we have another meeting coming later. There is a subcommittee looking at boards and commission revisions. Myself and Councilman Aguirei have been doing that work last couple of months and there will be a product put out to Council in the coming months. But that work is underway and there will be some feedback opportunities for my colleagues as we look at how we not only streamed on a stream line, but make sure the boards and commissions that we do have are effective and proactively and actively advising council in a number of areas. And so we are looking at that and I just want you to you and the public to be aware. One thing that I will talk about that's coming up that I want to make sure if folks are paying attention to our meetings and get this far, you find out about next Saturday or upcoming Saturday, there is going to be a skate park pop-up event at the Schuller Hamilton Jones skate board park on Duke Street. It is a little known facility that most folks don't frankly know about, but it is an opportunity to talk away in on the future of what that skate park looks like. And so please engage, we do have some information on the city's website as well. Thank you. Councilman Green. Thank you, Mayor Gaskins. I wanted to thank the Northern Virginia chapter of Delta Sigma Theta for coming to me with myself and some of my colleagues today for their Alexandria Advocates today speaking on initiatives or informing us on the initiatives that they support and offering their partnership for us. And I'm very thankful to the Delta's for their ongoing support of our community in the Northern Virginia region. And I must say they come dressed to the Nines and they are literally the best dressed, I think, that a group that we meet with each year. So thank you to them. Okay. I have two quick ones. One, I mentioned earlier that I went to the Miracle League of Alexandria game. Just wanted to give a shout out to Max and all of the volunteers who helped make the game possible. It was also a really great celebration of community. We had members of the Omega Sci-Fi chapter in Alexandria preparing food. The entire team from the Alexandria City High School Titans varsity baseball team was there supporting and playing with our young people. A number of parks and rec staff. So just encourage folks, the season's still going. If you have have time try and make a game. The other thing I just wanted to put forth a couple weeks ago I think in April we had a resident come and speak to us as it related to concerns about beekeeping on her neighbor's property. We received an update from staff basically letting us know that most of the regulations as it relates to be keeping are at the state level. Some jurisdictions have pursued zoning text amendments in order to look at sort of what's possible locally. As of right now, Alexandria does not have any such regulations in our zoning ordinance. I did email all the members of the council just to get a pulse of where folks are at. I think I'm still waiting to hear from maybe one person, but at this point it seems like everyone is at least interested in moving forward with exploring zoning text amendments as it relates to be keeping. And I think folks will have some additional questions. So Mr. Manager, if we could move forward with that with that expiration and checking with the council on their questions that would be great. Other than that, I will now move us Madam Clerk next item. Consideration of City Council schedule. Okay. Are there any questions or comments on the schedule? Second. 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There has been a motion to reconvene a second by Vice Mayor Bagley any discussion? All those in say aye Any opposed say nay eyes have it councilman a Gary Madam mayor move the city council adopt the resolution regarding the closed executive session that was previously circulated to the council There has been a motion by councilman a giri and a second to adopt the motion that was previously a sort to adopt the resolution That was previously circulated to council Madam Madam clerk this is a roll call vote please call the roll. Councillor Minigurri. Councillor Warren Green. Mayor Gaskins. Aye. Vice Mayor Bagley. Councillor Minigurri. Councillor Elnubi. Is there a motion? Move to adjourn. All right there has been a motion by Councillor Minigurri and a second by Councillor Min Councilman Chapman to adjourn all those in favor say aye. Any opposed say nay. The ayes have it. Meeting adjourned and hopefully a good one for you. We've been year round, rain, shine or snow from 7 a.m. to 12 noon. 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