you Okay. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Welcome to the San Luis Visible County Board of Supervisors. We're going to get started. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Welcome to the San Luis Visible County Board of Supervisors. We're going to get started. I'd like to make a few announcements first. Hearing devices are available on the left side of the dius and board chambers are T Coil compatible for these hearing devices as well. Speaker slips are available at the back of the chambers. If you're planning on speaking on any of our items today, please take the speaker slip, fill it out. We also have our code of civility on the back. Okay, she need a reminder. And right now I'd like to ask you all to stand for a pledge of allegiance. Okay, begin. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Very good. Okay. I'd like the clerk to please read changes to the agenda. A dendom to hearing item number 27, appealed by Patrick McGibney of the Lasosos Sustainability Group. Staff revised the resolution to clarify when there are incongruities between the conditions of approval, the mitigation measures, the site-specific incidental take permit, and the new Lososos Communitywide Habitat Conservation Plan that the measures and requirements of the certified local coastal program for the Lososos Community Plan and Habitat Conservation Plan shall apply. Added consent item number 33 by planning and building, it requests to authorize the useful alternative publication procedures for amendments to the county inland and coastal zone land use ordinances to modify combining designations for lands with significant mineral resources and lands adjacent to existing mines and queries exempt from sequa the hearing date set for March 25th. Added closed session, conference with real property negotiating concerning assessors assessors personal number 074-331-001, parties negotiating, Ryan Pinkerton, requirements of the Brown Act have been satisfied as notice was posted prior to the 72 hour noticement requirement. Thank you. Okay, so we're going to be first on the consent agenda and Would like to open public comment on the consent agenda so anyone who has a comment on these items on our consent agenda please step forward. I only have one speaker slip and Sydney Treckler, please Good morning members of the board Cindy Treckler with Public Works. I am here for consent item number 14. That agenda has the incorrect attachment number one, the vicinity maps. And so please replace attachment number one with these pages, which I'll hand to the clerk. Thank you. Anybody else coming forward for public comment on the consent agenda? Seeing none, I'm going to close public comment and then I'll bring it back to the board and ask the board members if they have comments or questions on any consent agenda item. Supervisor Pashong. I just have some questions on 11. On 11, okay. Supervisor Murrana? Number three. Three. Um, no, no. I have a comment on number, you know, two, one, two. I just, um, Number seven. Okay. Supervisor Murna. Number three. Yes, so this is the 200,000 that we give to Cal Poly to support the Center for Innovation and Entrepreneurship at the Hot House. So in my conversations with them, they had said that specifically our funds are used for the Small Business Development Center. The agenda kind of seems to say that it's for all of it. So I just wanted to clarify that, but I also wanted to find out for the future, how do we go about deciding, you know, because there are other organizations, Cal Poly is certainly the biggest and they've been very successful and I'm glad that we're supporting them. But there are other organizations that have arisen to also work on those kinds of things and maybe more geographically pointed. And what I want to know is how does another little bit about, you know, some of the history of the funds and then possibly where we're going from here in terms of some of the grants. Hi, Lisa how? County Administrative Office. So SB 1090, these are funded with SB 1090 designations, but I'm going to have to go back to the office and talk about the funds and then possibly where we're going from here in terms of some of the grants. Hi Lisa how Howe, County Administrative Office. So SB 1090, these are funded with SB 1090 designations back in May of 2019 is when the board appropriated all of the SB 1090 funds into various buckets, including economic development, a road's designation, a safety of photo housing, infrastructure and library. This particular grant used to be funded with General Fund for the first few years. And then I believe last year, the funding was switched over to the SB-1090 Economic Development Funding, somewhat to give relief to the General Fund. Currently, the SB-1090 buckets has a board approved SB 1090 spending plan of which there are some designations that have some available funds, economic development is not one of those. We are currently as part of the current 2526 budget needing to pull some infrastructure designation SB 1090 into economic development to fund what the board has outlined in that plan. So in future, that would be a request from agencies to then our office to look at a possible other funding source or to look at another bucket of SB 1090 to possibly move it to economic development. And so if there if there is if there's not a, then we're not going to be, we wouldn't be funding anything. If there is other buckets available, how would other organizations know to go about applying for those kinds of funds? So it's not an application process. That was just when Hot House was originally funded. was during budget hearings, and that was board directed for to support economic development in the county. And on top of that, we have, there's really two larger grants that are service contracts that we provide for economic development that is the Hot House as well as REACH. And those are currently SB 1090 funded. And so if there's any other organizations that are pursuing economic development and can show a history and show data, they could approach the county for those SB 1090 economic development funds as well. Or are we saying it's not open to any other groups? So yes, they could approach the county, but we would have to, the board would have to approve Shifting other funding or potentially other planned funding for various categories or it would be a request from general fund To come out of the general fund. Okay. I guess what I'm saying is how to differentiate between this that goes to Cal Polys Or we saying this this is sort of Set and it doesn't move and anyone else coming in is kind of while're you're in line behind if there happens to be something else available. That's the as what's being was the board approved spending plan however the board could make any amendments to that as part of the annual budget process or any time throughout the year. It's what want to amend the plan. Okay thank you. Okay I just want to add a little bit of color to that too. I mean of people don't know when we talk SB 1090, we're talking about the monies when Diablo Canyon was originally slated to close. And those monies were handed to the county and other entities. Cities got it, school district got it, and the county got it. And initially the idea, of course, was to figure a way to create some jobs if those jobs were going away and I think over the time they've created 836 jobs. The Small Business Development Center on its own is not necessarily just Cal Poly, it is for the county wide and I think they're planning on further. I know for in the South County they focused on one of the companies that they helped and it's just a matter of helping all small companies in the county. But I think that a lot what you're referring to is really going back to the economic strategy that we had yet to come to and I know with CIO Pantes it's something that's on our future agenda so it'll be a good conversation to have. provides a gift. Madam Chair, thank you. Let me just add, I was approached by my good friends at the Tascadero Chamber over that question that I supervised or Marinos has raised. And I think that given our budget situation, we should put the same close scrutiny on our economic development spending plan as we are on the rest of our spending. And so I think that at a point, we really need to dig into what investments in economic development do help the widest range get the most effect. I'd certainly be open to. Either as part of the budget discussion or sooner. Thank you. Okay. On this coming or the next one? I comment on this one. Please. Yeah, I also believe that this is actually a good expenditure with 836 jobs created in San Luis de Bistbo County. I do think though we should take a look at other organizations that are in our community that are also growing our economy and helping and so anybody that's listening or anybody here that represents one of those organizations love to sit down and talk to you and see what's available. It is going to be a tight budget year and you we don't know what's coming down from the state budget. There's going to be some holes there. There's going to be obviously everybody probably in this room understands what's going on with the federal budget right now. And so I think we'll take a look at it and we'll figure out at that time. But again, if you run an organization, please get in contact with us. Thank you. Yes, go ahead, supervise bonding. Brief comment on this as well. Of course, I really appreciate the work that Kaupali does and support it. There's a community initiative to kind of form this community development corporation, which would assist in economic development in the unincorporated areas. So it's concepts like that. Hopefully we can discuss in the future when we're looking holistically at this. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. I have a comment on item seven, which is the appointment of Jim Martirogian as their district three representatives to the Water Resources Advisory Committee. We always like to say thank you to those that are willing to volunteer on these committees that we have. And Mr. Martirogian is an agricultureist in the Edna Valley, and I really am grateful for his participation. And then to you, supervisor Pashong on item 11? Yeah. First off, I want to thank Whitaker Construction for once again fixing a leak in the NOSIMENTO pipeline. We have done, been here many times in discussions, and I actually had a question because I don't remember now how many times we've had problems with the pipeline. So somebody could let me know, I'm sure they will. There is a NOSimino Pipeline meeting on Thursday, I think at four o'clock in Templeton. So you're all invited if you're interested in this item to attend that meeting. I've been on that board now, I think, eight seven years, eight years, and I don't think we've had more than two people in the audience. So I'd love to have this many people come to that meeting at the Templeton Community Service District. I know you won't be there, so it's okay. I'll let you off the hook. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, does any items need to be pulled for a separate vote? Move approval of consent is amended. With that, let's have a roll call please. Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Supervisor Paul Dean? Yes. Supervisor Pashon? Yes. Supervisor Moreno? Yes, ma'am. And Chuckerson or T's Lake? Yes. OK. Well, that was quite efficient. Supervisor. No, what or he's like it was somewhat easy. Do you need to take a separate vote on consent agenda item one? That is actually a hearing item. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't see that. And you're right. It's a approval of item one. Oh, yes. Okay. Thank you. I'll call. It was the second. Supervisor Gibson. Yes. Supervisor Paul D. Yes. Supervisor Pashon. Yes. Provider Marano. Yes, ma'am. And Chairperson Ortiz Le. Yes. And I'm sorry I didn't read my directions properly. So there it is. Okay. But since we all agreed on the other ones we're cleared Yeah, we appreciate that too. Okay, we're going to move on to items 22 and 23, which are formal presentations. The presentations will start off with the resolution recognizing the 50th anniversary of the San Luis Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council, Council dear to my heart. Okay. This resolution recognizing 50 years of the Commission on the Status of Women and Girls in declaring March 2025 women's history month in San Luis Vista County. Whereas on May 5th, 1975, by resolution number 75-347, the San Luis Vista County commission on the status of women was established by the County of San Luis Vista Board of Supervisors, including supervisors. Wilford, Copper, Mankins, and Crescia to address women's equity and improve opportunities for women and girls in the county. And whereas recognizing the evolving needs of society, the commission expanded its designation in 2021 to include girls, ensuring that the perspectives and needs of young women are represented while continuing its long-standing commitment to advocating for women's equity. And whereas for five decades, the commission has been instrumental in shaping policies that support women, women's equity, raising awareness on key issues and expanding opportunities for women and girls throughout San Luis Vistil County. And whereas the commission provides an annual report to the Board of Supervisors, conducts women's issue to assess challenges promoted, faced by women and girls, and advises county leadership on policies and programs that promote women's equity. And whereas the commission organizes and supports programs such as the Women's Wall of Fame, which honors outstanding women in the community, and the Latina Empowerment Roundtable, which provides a platform for Latina women and girls to connect and access resources. Whereas the Commission also leaves initiatives such as the financial literacy programs, leadership development efforts, personal hygiene and product drive to support women in need, reinforcing its commitment to addressing economic and social challenges faced by women and girls. And whereas the Commission has played a key role in raising awareness and advocating for policy changes on issues such as domestic violence, pay equity, childcare access, and reproductive rights to ensure that the voices of women and girls are heard and acted upon at the county level. And whereas the commission's 50th anniversary during women's history month highlights the historical and ongoing contributions of women in shaping society and advancing equity Aligning with the month's purpose of recognizing women's achievement and progress now therefore be it resolved in order that the Board of Supervisors of San Luis Spokane State of California does hereby Recognize the 50th anniversary of the San Luis Spokane Commission on the status of women and girls and proclaims March 2025 as national women's history month the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of the State of Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. I'm going to go to the next page. Big smiles. Big smiles once again. Three, two, one. And one more time, three, two, one. Thank you. I'm going to give you a hand. Yes, please have a chance to say a few words. Good morning. My name is Deb Geeslin. I live in Nipomo and I am a commissioner for District 4. Today we come together with deep respect and pride. Not only to celebrate International Women's Day and Women's History Month but also to mark 50 years of dedicated service by the San Luis Obispo County Commission on the status of women and girls. It's fitting to look back at the history of this journey. In 1908, 15,000 women took to the streets of New York City in a historic march, demanding shorter hours to work, fair pay, and the end of child labor. That march set the tone for generations that followed. As we fast forward to the latter part of the 20th century, the President's Commission on the Status of Women was created by President John F. Kennedy's executive order, which he signed on December 14, 1961. The Commission was established to advise the President of the United States on women's issues, and President Kennedy appointed Eleanor Roosevelt as the first chair of that commission. This pivotal moment marked the evolution of these ideals into a global movement. International Women's Day celebrated every March 8th, gained worldwide prominence when the United Nations began sponsoring it in 1975. By March 1980, President Jimmy Carter officially marked March 8th as the start of National Women's History Week, a key moment that eventually paved the way for women's history month. By 1987, Congress had expanded this resident recognition to the entire month of March, and every president's sense has proclaimed March as women's history month. The history of the San Luis Obispo County Commission on the status of women began with the vision of Carol McVeigh Norton, a local housewife and mother who was inspired by the feminist movement of the early 1970s. And I think we're very fortunate to have Carol here today if she could stand. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry. Along with Mary Gail Black, a local political activist, she combined feminist idealism with political activism and together they rallied women from across the county. Launching a campaign that led to the creation of the San Luis Obispo County Commission on the Status of Women. May 5, 1975. The San Luis Obispo County commission on the status of women. On May 5th, 1975, the San Luis Obispo County commission on the status of women was officially established by resolution 75347. The presiding supervisors whoold is a member of the community of the state. The four-year-old is a member of the community of the state. The four-year-old is a member of the community of the state. The four-year-old is a member of the community of the state. The official advisory group our County Board of Supervisors. The official advisory group of the Board of Supervisors was established with a clear mission to identify issues affecting women in our community, to provide valuable input to county officials, and to work collaboratively with other organizations to address the evolving needs of women throughout our communities. As we move forward by 2021, it became clear that the commission's designated designation needed to evolve to reflect its full scope. Recognizing the importance of addressing the unique perspectives and contributions of young women, the commission expanded its mandate to include girls in its name. Effective August 10, 2021 by resolution, the Sland-Luis-Abispo County Commission on the Status of Women was renamed the Sland-Luis-Abispo Commission on the Status of Women and Girls. In the spirit we stand together today, celebrating our history and the remarkable achievements of the past decades. We honor the early leaders whose vision and courage laid the ground to work for our journey. It is with deep gratitude. We acknowledge and honor all commissioners who have served on the commission from 1975 to 2025. Their efforts and commitment have built the foundation upon which we continue our work today. Now to bring you up to date with the current activities of our commission, it's my pleasure to introduce Carol Chanel, Commissioner for District 4. Thank you. Super. Commissioner for District 4. Thank you, Commissioner Geeslin. Most of what I want to say has been covered in the resolution, and that is what we've been working on. And the efforts that we've made in the last 50 years can be kind of summarized by the efforts that we're focused on now. And that is to meet the physical, emotional, societal needs of women and girls in the county. And there are five specific approaches or programs that we've been working on in the last couple of years. One is the Latina Empowerment Roundtable that definitely addresses the societal needs and the emotional needs and the physical needs of Latina women and girls in our county. We had a presentation about the results of that round table, which happened last year. We had a presentation just last week at our commission meeting, and it was inspiring to hear how grateful they were for the funding that we were able to give them. On the leadership side, we have been focused on developing capacity within our commission and beyond and that is by providing leadership tools and resources to commissioners and those people that we work with. We've invested in professional growth and leadership classes, ensuring some strong governance and dynamic leadership within our commission. The personal hygiene and product drive is something that we feel strongly about. And that just boils down very simply to what are some of the physical needs that women and girls in our community need. And it goes without saying that there are some of those hygiene products that aren't available to everyone on a regular basis. So we took it a step further and we're providing diapers to an organization within the county, lifeline pregnancy free of charge. And so starting with infancy all the way up through teens and young women, the personal hygiene and product effort goes on. The financial literacy, we very proudly proudly funded financial literacy workshops and then the legacy of service funding has also been directed towards three distinct organizations. organizations. We had some grant funds that we could donate to separate organizations. They applied for those funds and we vetted those organizations and were able to distribute those funds. So your continued support including the generous community project grant that was provided by you, our Board of Supervisors and additional statewide funding sources like the California Commission on the status of women and girls. This has been critical to us being able to achieve these meaningful efforts. So as we move forward, particularly as we're celebrating our 50th anniversary, we remain committed to our mission of advocating for equality and supporting women and girls across San Luis Obispo County. We deeply appreciate your ongoing partnership and your shared dedication to these important causes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Any other public comments on this item? Okay. Seeing none, I'll close public comment and I will bring it back to the board and for their comments. Okay. Supervisor Gibson. Thank you, Madam Chair. It's a wonderful day to celebrate this. I've always been struck by the energy that the commission shows. And more than just energy, the direction of that energy to help women and girls and raise their voices in our county. You go out and you find out what's on the minds of women, what they need, and then you act on it. And so all the outreach that you've done, all the specific programs that you've encountered are just really a testament to a wonderful positive attitude. I am pleased to have some former commissioners. I've always been tremendously proud of District 2's representation on the commission and all this leadership over many, many years. And so I wish you a wonderful next 50, 150, for as long as we're here, we need you. Thank you so much. That's a supervisor Paul Ding. Thank you Madam Chair. I'll echo those comments. Really appreciate the work of all of the commissioners and that you volunteer your time. And you go over and above, especially in the way that you've obtained grants not only to create new opportunities like the Latina women round table, which is really important in today's day and age, but the work that you do in human trafficking, even to the small stuff, the hygiene products and so forth. So thank you, especially to my district four commissioners, not to brag on who has the best commissioner, but to Carol, really appreciate you and Deb, of course, your long service on the commission and Kathy, a former district four commissioner for being here. And another one who I haven't met. Thank you for being here. Diana's to share it. Oh, okay, Diana, yes, yes. We haven't met before, nice to see you again. Anyhow, so thank you to all the women in the room that do the work that you do. And of course, to my colleagues on the board who I have a pleasure, a pleasure of serving with. Glad to see that we have representation with this political body. And of course, the Rita will be celebrating you in a little bit. Thanks. Supervisor Moreno. Thank you. Echo all of those comments. and I would like to please that both commissioners arenas and Commissioner and vice chair Kessler stayed on board. District five does need one more pointy. If you know of a woman in the 5th district who is passionate about supporting women and girls, have her Thanks. Congratulations. Congratulations on the 50 years. I'd also, it's a great commission. And I would like to add that right now currently District 1 has two vacancies. So I've, this is eighth year in office. I've put a number of people on this board and they've really enjoyed it. And they've done, I think, a great job. But we do have the two vacancies. So if anybody is listening or here in the room that would like to be on this commission in living in District One, which is north San Luis of Isabel County I please get in touch with my office and I'd love to point you to this commission thank you. Thank you supervisors I'm going to quickly open public comment one more time for Fernanda Lucas to just got here and if you would like to please come forward Fernanda this item is that you wanted to speak on the Women's Commission. Yes. Pardon? Yes. Okay, yes, please go ahead. So good morning. For also for our advisors and guest speakers. I would like to take my name is Fernanda Lucas and I'm the Program Director for the Promotorical Labor Act of San Luis Obispo County. And I would like to take a moment to acknowledge the San Luis Obispo County Commission on the status of women for awarding a Promotorist Collaborative at Mini Grant of $2,500 to build capacity in February at 10, 2025. I'm also thrilled to share that just last Saturday the congressman, Jimmy Penetra, recognized the work in the community. I was at tremendous honor and testament for our impact in efforts. So I want to thank and recognize a woman of studies, woman to support our continued work. And for those who doesn't know who are the promotores. So the promotores were, since 2013, our commitment has been clear to empower and support a health community through the education and appropriate resources. Our team of community health workers, known as the promotores, is the backbone of this effort. We provide services ranging from education sessions to linguistic interpretation in Spanish and Mexico, ensuring that everyone has access to vital information to live healthier and fuller lives. Our services are focused on the monolingual community, but we do not reject anyone. And we also provide services in English. Our promotores work tirelessly to educate, connect, and enrich our communities. They organize and facilitate educational programs, including disease prevention, financial literacy, and more. They overcome obstacles such as technological and transportation barriers to connect people with essential services and help them navigate complex health systems and community resources. From July 2024 to February 2025, we have reached an impressive 6,102 community members, notably 90% of their average are women, 5% are men and 5% LGBTQ plus individuals. One hour, we get challenges, we face this funding, but despite it, we recognize the women and status of women for supporting our work in the community. Thank you for your attention and we look forward to a continued work together. Thank you. Thank you, Fernando. I'm so glad you were able to make it here because I think it's a perfect representation of how the women's commission actually goes out and permeates the community and plants these seeds that really do the kinds of things. And first, I just want to thank the commission nurse past and present for all you do for our county. I know how much work this is and your your passion towards it, and your effort to continually give back to the community and bring this camaraderie together as women, and doing it for all, because it does impact the entire community and society. And so we're very proud of your work, and really the data shows exactly what this is coming out. We have a higher increase of labor force participation. We have exponential education attainment that's happened over these years. We have significant growth in incomes and all of it has this incredible positive economic impact on our society as a whole. So we're very proud and I want to thank you all for being here and just continue to do your work and we will continue to support you. So thank you. All right, we'll have a clap. And I think we'll have a little reception when we're finished with the last presentation out of the lobby to the little room on the right. So everybody's invited. Okay, so now we're moving on and it's really perfect that we're honoring women as the 50th anniversary today and honoring women because we are now going to honor one of our very strong women leaders. And so this is a resolution recognizing and commending Rita Neal for nearly three decades of excellence at dedication and service to San Luis Vispokone and Rita This is for you and supervisor Gibson of astute to read the Declaration. Thank you Madam Chair. It is my honor and a little bit of a challenge to read this resolution Which reads as follows Whereas Rita Neill was born in the small town of Sonora in Tualami County, where her friends and family knew her as Rita Sharoni, the daughter of proud Italian parents. And whereas Rita received her undergraduate degree from Cal Poly, where she fell in love with the area and the community. And whereas Rita briefly left San Luis Obispo in order to attend Santa Clara University School of Law, and whereas after graduating law school, Rita returned to San Luis Obispo and practiced law at a private firm. And whereas Rita began her public service with the county in 1998 when she was hired as Deputy County Council. She rose quickly through the ranks in the county council's office due to her innate tenacity coupled with her legal acumen. In 2009 Rita was promoted to chief deputy county council assisting in the management and oversight of the county council's office. Six short months later Rita was promoted to assistant county council, recognizing her leadership skills and integrity in 2012 the Board of Supervisors appointed Rita as county council where she served as the county's top lawyer for more than a decade. And whereas Rita Neil is beloved by her colleagues in the county council's office who regard her as their fearless leader and by the broader county workforce who regularly rely on her sound and practical advice. And whereas Rita also volunteered her time and expertise as president of the California County Council's Association and a valued member of the Association's litigation committee, a testament to her statewide renown as a government law expert. And whereas Rita has remained calm and steadfast in her leadership and integrity through even the most difficult moments, we'll talk a little bit about that later. And whereas, aside from her lawyering, Rita is known for her compassion, genuine kindness, empathy, positive spirit, honesty, integrity, infectious laugh, sense of humor, and impeccable fashion sense. And, and whereas, Rita's tenure in the Office of County Council stands as an example of courageous leadership and dedication to public service, and her presence will be sorely missed. Now therefore be it resolved in order that the Board of Supervisors of the County of San Luis of Bispo State of California does hereby commend Read and Niel for almost three decades of dedication to the county's mission, and she's wished the best of health, happiness, and good fortune upon her retirement from county employment and beyond. Thank you. We're quite the awesome family. That's the one we're going to do. That's the first. That... What are you listening to? I'm not listening. I'm not listening. I'm not listening. I'm not listening. I'm not listening. I'm not listening. I'm not listening. Let's take a look. I'm going to have to go over here. Okay. I'll fix my foot right over here. Three, two. One, two. Thank you. Yeah. Come on. We're going to stay down. Yeah. I'm getting nervous around this are on the other side. I'm sorry. You guys are on the other side a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of Happy, happy! Happy, happy! Alright, I'll read the last three, two. I'm gonna read you out, okay. Yeah, I'm gonna read you out, okay. Okay, next mile is one more time, three, two. One. Two. One. Two. One. Two. One. Two. One. Two. One. Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. One. Two. Two. Two. Two. Two. Actually, we have a quick video. Okay. I. Okay. Okay. I told her. Rita asked for this to be simple and easy and we did not comply. Okay. Okay. There's a person who serves as chief counsel. You know, that is their story, but those who work with her have formulated many questions about her. I don't know if she'll be fine. Oh, she... Wow, she does attend a lot of meetings. I mean, she's in every meeting. How does she do that? Does she really attend all these meetings? Why have to attend all these meetings? Is that even physically possible? The job is so hard. How does she make it look so easy? Council, I want to win. Council, would you like to add commentary? Council, if council determines we can, in fact, act. So I want to confirm with County Council. Not agendas, I'm looking at our council's office. I'm going to turn it over to County Council. She always has all the answers at the ready. She has time to prepare. She always knows the answers immediately. I also watched that presentation and we're not aware of any actual or legal conflicts and I just want to maybe put some clarification points on election law. Supervisor Gibson, you are accurate. Rita, you can tell me. My suggestion is just make another motion. How can she be everywhere? Maybe she divided at some point like a sell mitosis. Well, once again, she blew me off on a great legal theory that I have. She never takes my advice. Well, you never did go to law school. I'm thrilled to know that Rita is now going to be my successor. I will ask her a steam soon to be county council. How long she anticipates us meeting in closed session. Give morning reading the Assistant County Council. I'd say about 30 minutes. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to continue on with the dedicated. I have a quick speech. Yes, we'll be quick. As please. So first of all, I want to say a huge congratulations to Rita and her retirement from the County Council's office. She has been our fearless leader, and she's going to be incredibly missed. I've had the privilege and honor of working with Rita for the last six years. And during that time, I've had the pleasure of calling her my boss, my mentor, and my friend. I first met Rita when I was at the city of San Luis Bisco, the city was contemplating an override of the county's San Luis Bisco. The city was contemplating an override of the county's airport land use commission's decision regarding the city's land use and circulation element. That was about 10 years ago. At the time, I really only knew Rita by reputation. I was feeling pretty bold about the city's override authority. I was naively cocky. I remember going up to the third floor to let her know what's up. And I was then led into our corner office. It was her and her cohort, Nina and a grantee. It took about 10 seconds to realize that my brazen confidence was in serious trouble with these two. The intimidation factor was high. Let's just say I left the meeting till my then boss Christine that I'm not sure if we're right and we really need to think through this. Rita's ability to tactfully pierce through her position was like a triple black belt karate move. The next time I met Rita was when I applied for the chief deputy position in our office. They encounter as well burned into my memory. I was sitting there outside of blackress coffee as she came marching over with a bunch of documents under her arm. As she power walked over with this huge smile from year to year. She then started to explain to me all the different departments that they advised, the issues that they are currently facing, and what her expectations were of the attorneys in her office. She made it abundantly clear that those who work for her needed to be the best, the brightest, and the most prepared person in any meeting. After this meeting, two things were true. I was actually thrilled to work for her. I was actually terrified to work for her. Miraculously, I ended up getting the job in her office, and when I first started, Rita gave me a really kind handwritten note on her own stationary. I'm thinking to myself, super classy. And given the personal touch, I thought I was some sort of special hire. But as I found out later when other people were hired, she gave these same notes to everyone. However, what also became abundantly clear is that she gave each new employee a personalized note because she was generally invested in their success and their happiness in that of the overall office. She knew that the Office of County Council would rise and fall based on the collective success of her team. She was and still is to this very day highly involved with each employee in the office to ensure that not only her expectations being met but more importantly to make sure everyone enjoyed coming to work. For the next six years I saw Rita be bedrock leadership for the county and in that time she has dealt with a lot. Let's just say the issues I watched her carefully navigate me the override issue a bunch of bubquists. She did all this while living in the the fish pool that is public service. Read has navigated this space exceptionally. In fact, this last- issue a bunch of bubbqis. She did all this while living in the fish pool that is public service. Rita's navigated that this space exceptionally. In fact, this last week, the County Council's Association of California, which is comprised of all the county councils in court in California, awarded Rita Neal with the James B. Lindholm Legacy Award. Oh. To me, this recommendation reflects not only read a- to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. I'm going to be able to make a living. me and my family opportunities that I've never would have imagined. She has been an inspiration to me and all those that she has touched and I will miss her dearly. Congratulations. That's great, John. Jenna Morton. Hi, I'm Jenna Morton, the Chief Deputy County Council, and it has been my privilege to serve with Rita first as a deputy county council, and for the last three years with Rita and John on the county council management team. Several years back Rita gave a lovely retirement speech entitled Lessons Learned from Meen and the Grantee. These are my lessons learned from Rita Neal. Lesson number one, Rita knows everything. The answer to your legal question, Rita knows. How to get your client out of a pickle? Rita knows. The obscure policy that tells you when and how to use the county seal, Rita knows. Lesson number two, you can always trust Rita to help you find perspective. No matter how fraught the moment, Rita never forgets that storms will pass. Mistakes can be fixed, and the show always goes on. The wisdom, perspective, and calm consistency that she is instilled into our office have made us all better attorneys and crisis managers. Less and three, strength can go exist with kindness and warmth. In so many ways, Rita has been the backbone of this organization. Clients and colleagues regularly lean on her settle strength during hard or uncertain times. But when I think of stories about Rita or what I will remember the most, it's her kindness and warmth. It's the time she brought me groceries on the weekend during a family emergency, the thoughtful notes, the laughter, the words of encouragement. It's the way she inspires us all to show up every day with good humor, compassion and positivity. My Angelou once said, when we find someone who is brave, fun, intelligent and loving, we have to thank the universe. Although we are heartbroken to see your go, we thank the universe for you Rita and for the opportunity to have worked alongside you. We will forever be better attorneys, better public servants, and better people thanks to you. I know. Applause. Applause. Jamie Russell, followed by Janet Treter. Good morning, Jamie Russell, Human Resources Director. So I do have some comments today, but before I give my own comments, I have a personal message from Tammy Douglas Schatz, former HR director and friend to read a neil. And I'm going to try to do this without crying because I read it twice in both times I've cried, so I'm prepared. Congratulations Rita, I'm so very happy for you. I hope you are proud of your career and contribution and purpose of leadership and mentorship and of courage and excellence. I miss you terribly and I think of how lucky I was to have worked alongside you for 15 years. All my memories of the ups and downs that come with this rewarding and endlessly interesting life of public service includes you. You made it fun, you made it real, and I loved being part of your team. Your great success is the legacy you are leaving. You built an amazing department and you make a positive difference in every interaction you have. You made a difference when you answered the phone and the caller said, Rita, I have a problem. You made a difference when it was particularly challenging time and you said, put on your walking shoes, I'll be there in five. You made a difference every time a tough decision had to be made that would have significant impact. You listened well, took the most thorough notes I've ever seen, and led the conversation to a right conclusion. You made a difference when sensitive conversations were necessary that didn't leave others participants feeling trampled. You made a difference in every event this county is encountered, and every small interaction you had every day. You are wise and caring and strong and we are all the better for sharing our time with you. With all that you've contributed you deserve the retirement of your dreams, less hurried, less intense and still surrounded by all of us who are fortunate enough to call you a friend. So that's from Tammy She she wishes she could have been here today. And so I want to echo Tammy's comments, Rita, you have been an incredible mentor to me for the last 11 months. Being an HR director is not easy and you've been there with me every step of the way. You've seen my happy days, you've seen my, oh, what did I get myself into days? You've been my sounding board, my thought partner, and my cheerleader. You have been there for me every time. I'm thinking of a few weeks ago. I texted you and I think it was 5.30, maybe 5.45 and all I said was, are you still here? And you didn't say yes, you didn't say no, you said I'll be down in five minutes and you rushed down just knowing that I needed you at that moment. You are not only an amazing county council but you are an amazing human being and I'm going to really miss you and I am so so so lucky that I've gotten to work with you for the first year of my tenure here as the HR director. I'll miss you so much. And here this time I thought you were my person. She's that person to everyone. It is so, Jeanette Trumpeter, public information information for the administration department and I made the transition from being a journalist in the private sector to working for government about three and a half years ago and I thought journalists took a lot of grief and then I came to these board of supervisors meetings and listened to the comments and the negativity and read the letters and I get a lot of the communications that come from the community. And I struggled with it a little bit. Like, why are people so rude? Why are people so mean? And what Rita taught me is we work for them. And they have every right to say everything that they're saying. And there are bosses. And we need to listen to them. Mom, I think it's amazing you raised such a class act and it's so appropriate that it is after the presentation on the commission on women and girls because she is just a woman that we all look up to. You know, I didn't write a thing but I I wrote some words of your class act, your super intelligent. You really do. I have never seen you stomped and I am in a lot of meetings with you and you always know the answer. Wisdom, your wise about the way the world works and the way government and how it should work. Hard working. I have needed so much help where I've needed to run something by county council and maybe I didn't get my work done till quarter to five or maybe five forty five. And I need it for tomorrow and I put in a text to her and she may call me at 830 that night but she calls every time. And I don't know when you sleep. I do believe that the reason you're so tiny is you have divided into at least three people at some point. I think it's amazing that you always take the stairs in those heels. You're a great diplomat and you have integrity. And I just so respect you and I so appreciate you. And I know so many people now feel the same way and I'm not that special. You're that way to everybody. But you have also created a great team and I can't imagine the county without you except that for who you leave behind and John, you have some big shoes to fill. So I expect you to take the stairs and be there for my calls at 5.45. Congratulations Rita, I'm super sad to see you go, but if anyone deserves a retirement, boy you do. Yeah. Yeah. Applause. Lisa, Lisa how? Follow by Blake, fixer Lisa, and how followed by Blake fixer Lisa and then Blake. Good morning and Lisa how with the County Administrative Office. So I've had the pleasure of working with Rita throughout my time here at the County and I've seen first town has she has made this County a better place to live and this organization a better place to work. When Rita announced her retirement, I had many conversations with employees who said that they can't leave she is leaving and they expressed how Rita has been a mentor to them throughout their career. And that is just who Rita is, a trusted advisor on a sounding board and genuine friend. When I first started at the county and when I had to give my first board presentation, she made it a point to email me right after and telling me I did a good job. Even though I surely hadn't had these chambers can be really nerve-wracking. And over the years, she has continued to provide so much support, encouragement, and has made it a point to check in during the crazy times. And I know I'm not alone in this experience, as we've all heard. This is just who Rita is. She cares deeply. Rita, you leave behind the most amazing legacy by how you have approached your work, your commitment to doing what is right, and the kind that you have shared. I wish you all the happiness in the next chapter, which I know will be at least 50 years, because you always take the stairs. I'll miss your mentorship, you're up for anything attitude, like when you dressed up like Glinda the Good Witch, and we all dressed up like yellow bricks. Seeing you wave hello, was you very, very swiftly walk past going on a lunch walk. Your most fabulous work clothes, which I'm happy to take them off your hands for you. Seeing you won't need them anymore. You're laughter, you're sense of humor, you're endless amount of knowledge, you're integrity and how you deeply care about this county. We'll miss you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Blake. Thanks, sir. Palabite Robert Oaks. Good morning, board public. Rita. I'm Blake Fixler, legislative assistant to district two supervisor, Bruce Gibson. We've been hearing a lot today about Rita's professionalism, all her career highlights, those are all warranted, but I'm so glad to hear that we're speaking to her character. Rita truly is a character. It is a sad truth that sometimes in this organization, there are those that we work closely with that might pass away and it impacts us all. And it's also a truth that in my specific position that I'm oftentimes seen is just an extension of the supervisor. And that's fine. That's the job that I signed up for. And I knew I had it and he is the figurehead. However, these two points converge upon the the passing of someone with whom we worked closely in our office. And all day, the comments were, you know, how's the supervisor doing? How's Bruce? How's Bruce? I'm like, he's, you know, he's doing all right. We're working through it. One person made it a point to come and say, hey, Blake, how are you? And Blake wasn't really doing all that good that day and really appreciated it. And I say all that to make this point, and it's that Rita truly saw and sees everyone here as individuals and as people. You're not just a job function, you're not just an employee number. Everybody's a person and that warmth comes through and I'm so glad to hear the outpouring of support for Rita as a person. You know she's got a tough exterior but in there just beats the heart of a champion and Rita it's been an honor to work with you. You've truly been an inspiration. I wish you the best and the impact that you've had on this organization and the public of this county cannot be tallied. So thank you for your service. I truly wish you the best. Mm. Well, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Robert Oaks, I am Breita's brother. I'm older than her by 18 months and I wasn't aware she started when she was one. County. When I was young I was a cryer and I haven't been a cryer for a long time but I think I am again, so hang with me. Um, she's my, um, and we were raised by a single mom, five of us. I had three older brothers and Rita. She had four brothers. So part of the reason she has the character and perseverance she has is because she had four older brothers. We grew up in substandard housing. The house had lots of leaks during the winter. Buckets all over the floor. Plumbing in the neighborhood worked. And through all that she and I were the closest because we were eight two months apart and I take some credit for her career because we used to play office. And I was always the boss. And so I trained her well. You're well. But I want to thank all of you for letting her retire because we live in Northern California and we come down for holidays or weekends. And the reality is, is that whether it's a Saturday, Sunday, or the day after Christmas, when I get up at 8 AM, she's already in the office. And so thank you for letting us have more time. Also, I can't talk to her during the week because she's working and I can't reach her. And so if there's an emergency, I call multiple times so she knows that there's an emergency. But I'm looking forward to having her back. And it's true. She's a really classy person. Yeah. Okay. And last comment or Jim Grant? All right, my name is Jim Grant and I'm really better known as Rita's significant other. And I'd like to thank the board for recognizing Rita's outstanding public service to the community. It's very true. I've known Rita for over 30 years and all the the accolades in her resolution ring true, as well as a public comment, and the little movie that was shown. She does exemplify leadership and integrity, which are always important, but even more important than ever in today's world. And she does provide sound, honest, practical advice. She is calm and steadfast in her leadership. She is a treasure trove of knowledge and experience that will be sorely missed. And I'll add that Rita was the bright light in the darkness of the COVID pandemic. And you could always count on her when that going gets tough. And indeed, she'll be sorely missed by the roughly 3,000 county employees and the countless other in the legal council legal community around the state. And with that being said, I should end my comments and sit down, but I do have a concern. In all honesty, I must admit that with some trepidation, she has been accustomed to going to work every day with the energy and zeal of a border collie to influence and guide a multitude of county employees throughout the day. And as we know, this is all coming to an end. And this concerns me. It leaves me dumb, fat and happy in my retirement days to recreate at my leisure or or cogitate for hours, or have coffee with friends. I'm defenseless against the fearless leader with the innate tenacity to herd me to places I may not want to go. But I have an answer. I'm employing the board and department head, so I'll give the number to everybody, for number to everybody in this room. To just call Rita regularly and ask for advice or just to chat. That gives me the time to jump the fence, hop on my bike, or get into my car, and make my escape. All in there. I've said enough. Thank you. Well said. Okay. I want to bring it back up here to our board board. Yes. Oh, yes, we like it. We do have comments read a book. Go ahead. Well, first of all, no one's following procedure today. Public comments all out of order. People are getting more than three minutes and you're using county equipment. We have a rule. Okay, I see I've lost my influence here and it is a very proud day that we are also celebrating the commission on the status of women and girls. I was hired with a 50 vote by an all-male board and from that day forward I had the full support of all of them and I continue to have that support. So I am grateful for that. And I hope I have been an example to other women and girls that anything is absolutely possible. So I knew that someday my retirement decision would come and here it is. And the fact that I've made this decision and it's here is more surreal than I anticipated. And I've mentioned to some of you throughout the last few weeks that it is surreal. And I wanted to, first of all, make sure I was using that word correctly. So I looked up the word surreal. And it means something very strange, dreamlike or unreal, as if it doesn't quite fit with your normal understanding of reality. And that is how I feel. My normal understanding of reality has been this wonderful career, it has been being your county council, it has been being friends to all of the county employees. So the reality of my retirement has not really set in. So first my comments to the board. During your time as county council, I have served 12 individual board members. Two of them passed away while in office. Dear Paul Tashira and his wife this year today, that's beautiful to see you because he meant a lot to me. Each of you over the years have let me see a part of you that is kind, thoughtful, intellectual, and strategic. You've taught me something about myself and something about the system we work in. The consistent theme that I have observed is that all of you want it, what is best for your community and your constituents that you serve. Each of you go about your commitment in different ways, but at the end of the day, I have been lucky to observe your hard work, your compassion, the difficult decisions you have to make, the criticisms you endure, and the energy that you exert to do your job. It is impressive, and you will always have my greatest respect. I've also served a few caos, not 12, but close. And I do believe, Board, that when you hired Matt Pontes, you made a wise and thoughtful decision. Matt is smart, he has integrity and intuition, and he will guide this county to bigger and better things, and he will guide this board in a way that will assist you in making decisions that are difficult but serve the greater good. Matt, I've totally enjoyed working with you. I know it's not been a full year, but it has been a wild ride. I've watched you do the hard work, and I know you have great success in your future. And most of all, I've thoroughly enjoyed just sense of humor and the friendship and the laughter that we've shared. And I will miss that. So I want the board to know that I have come to work every day for the past 12 years, and I have never ever taken for granted the profound trust and respect that you have put in me to guide you through legal issues, to protect the county's interests, and to listen to me, tell you things that you sometimes didn't want to hear. You have always been respectful to me about that. There were days, I must say, I was overwhelmed with responsibility that you placed in me, but please know that it has been an honor and a privilege and I can never adequately thank you for giving me this opportunity. Being your county council has been an experience of a lifetime. So to each of you from the bottom of my heart, I thank you. To all employees, county employees, passed in present. And George Rosenberger, thank you for being here today. When I came here to work 26 years ago, I had no idea that I would have a front row seat of observing and working with amazing and devoted public servants. Not only do I have a great seat up here, and this is a great vantage point to observe the work of the county but I've had the privilege of working with many of you on an individual basis. Public employees are under attack these days but please know that each day I have observed your hard work and how quietly you go about your day trying to do what is best for the county. There are so many things that county employees do which make our community better and safer and most residents don't even realize it. Whether it's emergency operations team, our custodial staff, our election workers, our PIO team, our jail deputies, our health care workers. The list is long and impressive. So to each of you, I thank you. You have my greatest respect and I am forever fan of county employees. To my office. I have had many brilliant and wonderful mentors over the years and have learned so much from each of them, but one piece of advice that is always consistent is this Rita. surround yourself with people that are smarter than you. So I ask all of you to take a look at my office, my attorneys and my support staff. They are the best and the brightest. They are so much more smarter than me. They are the people who truly protect the interests of the county. They are committed and they serve this board and its employees with such integrity and devotion. They are vigilant and committed. I always tell them that my expectation for them is to be the most prepared, most professional, most helpful in any situation. And that's not even an expectation I ever needed to articulate because they exceed that every single day. I believe though that one of the most important traits about my office, and it's actually a minimum qualification to work in my office, is that they are the kindest, funniest and most thoughtful people one could ever want to know. I am so proud of all of you, and I know you will carry on your great work, and I have the deepest respect for all of you. Some people have asked me if there's a legacy that I want to leave for the county and it is only one thing and I hope all of you take this with you. things get serious around here and but every day there's something to be grateful for and if my legacy is that every day can you please find something to laugh about. E.E. Cummings said the most wasted of all days is one without laughter so never forget to laugh to my family. I am beyond honored that you are here today. You weren't supposed to speak Robert. That was a rule that you broke. So my brother Robert who encouraged me to go to law school, my brother Raimi, whose musical talent has brought so many joy, so much joy to so many people, and my almost 93 year old mother? My oldest brother, Chris, couldn't be here. And Remy's husband, Steve, couldn't be here. Am my brother, Philip, who died of AIDS at age 35. I know he's here in spirit. I would be Miss Family if I didn't mention our dear family, friends, Dolores and Johnny, who couldn't be here today, but they have given my family so much joy and laughter over the years, and I know we are all grateful for them. As my brother said, I grew up the youngest of five kids and I was the only girl. My mom raised us as a single mother, and if it were not for her, her enduring love, her support, her strength, I would not be here today. She never told me I couldn't do something. She never laughed at my hair-brained ideas. She never doubted my abilities, and she loved from her heart and without judgment. My mother and family has supported me through thick and thin, and I am overwhelmed that you are here today. So mama, put your seat belt on because we've got some fun times ahead. And last but certainly not least Jim Grant, you are my partner in life. You have spent many evenings and mornings listening to my trials and tribulations of county life. Hearing about situations that sometimes felt unsolvable, observing my sometimes unnecessary stress and distress, and celebrating the highlights and successes of the county with me. Once I'm not working, I think what you will miss most is not having the opportunity to tell me exactly how to solve all the county's problems. You have not. Jim, you are my rock, and you're my best friend. We have experienced so many perfect moments together. And moving forward, I know there are so many perfect moments in our future, my love. So as I conclude my comments, I keep using the word overwhelmed. I didn't look at the words, but I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, So as I conclude my comments, I keep using the word overwhelmed. I didn't look it up, but I am feeling totally overwhelmed by all the people that have reached out to me over the last several weeks. I'm overwhelmed by the friends and the family that are here today. Without you all, I would not have had a successful career. I would not have had the strength to keep going. I know people talked about my strength and my support, but please know, each and every one of you have made a difference in my life. You have provided support on days and moments you didn't even know. So I thank you for that. I would not have made these genuine friendships and I would not have had the opportunity to laugh so much. Your love and support cannot be understated. You have each and every one of you made an indelible mark in my life. I heard an interview a couple weeks ago and the interview he was asked if her current job was her dream job. And I thought about that, is being county council my dream job? And the answer is no. This is a job and a career that I could not have dreamed of. I could have, could not have dreamed that I would have a job that made a difference in the community, that I would serve boards that cared so deeply about people around them, that I would be blessed with such deep friendships that I would watch devoted and amazing work being done by people every day. I could not have dreamed this big. So moving on to the next phase of my life, the county and San Luis abyssalmal, all of you will remain special in my heart. So as I say my farewell, I find comfort in the words of Charles Dickens. The pain of partying is nothing to the joy of meeting say. So we do want to thank you Rita for this wonderful moment, and I'll turn it over to Supervisor Moreno. It's hard to imagine how all of you are feeling. This is my third month, and I know how much me and Jennifer, my legislative assistant, how much we are going to miss you Rita. So I can't even fathom what all of you are feeling. You have been one of the most welcoming influences in our two, short two and a half months here. You have helped us navigate challenges and tried to make it as smooth as possible for us. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you. We are going to miss you. And I am just sorry that I didn't get to experience as much time with you and to know you as much as others do. But thank you for your service and all the best to you. Supervisor Prashan? Yeah. First off, thank you for your service to this county, keeping us out of trouble. There's 58 counties in California, 57 other county councils, and they go to one person in this state when there's a crisis. And I just wanna remind people that we've had FBI investigations, death of supervisors, COVID, federal investigations, and all the other counties, they look at the county councils, look at Rita as the expert in this. Now I would say that it's probably she can handle those, knowing the size of her family, knowing the strength of her mom, who raised her. But I will actually say that I believe it's the Jesuits, the University of Santa Clara that actually paired her for these crises. Now, University of Santa Clara is the second best law school in the state. And so I will give her that. But as Jim said, when the going gets tough, the tough really do get going, and they make things happen. And Rita, the one thing that Rita, to me, and I learned this very, very early on, when the crisis, she still never lost her sense of humor. She still never lost her ability to laugh. That actually comes from her family. I'm very sure of it. And I will tell you that she's protected us. She's kept us out of trouble, and she's made us better people. So thank you. Yeah, I'm lovely. Supervisor Paul Dink. Thank you Madam Chair. Rita, I'm pissed, as you know. Good to hear. Good to hear you now. I've been here for two years and you're leaving. I second that. I second that. But not selfish. And you deserve to go into a nice retirement and enjoy. Enjoy not working as hard as you have worked for this county. And I was trying to come up with a word to describe you and superhuman was the word that I came up with. And you've demonstrated a model of integrity and professionalism for everybody who works here. And I'm really excited to know that our or or reassured to know that our county council, you know, how everybody in that office, including John, have been trained by you and mentored by you, because we need that. And yeah, I'm going to miss you very much and appreciate you. I respect you more than anyone I know. So enjoy your retirement. You deserve it. Supervisor Gibson. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I met Rita around about the turn of the century. And it was on a matter of land conservation. It was a fairly dull real property issue. And at that point, she was impressive. But it was only once I got this really cool county job that I realized how impressive she is. And so over the last 18 plus years you have been more than I think I can put into words. But I've got a few down here. There were a couple of issues that were raised, some of them legal around the child labor laws. Jesus brother actually Robert raised this and attorney himself. And so I consulted the county archives and we found actually Rita's onboarding picture. Now it was not digital, it's in an analog form. And I appreciate also the Oaks-Sharoni archives for providing access for use of this. But I will say that all joking aside, what you radiate is enthusiasm. what you rate dare say, every day radiate youthful energy that is so much a matter of keeping us void through difficult times. And the resolution spoke to her strong, instead fast leadership and her presence, even in difficult moments. moments. A number of difficult moments have been brought forth by speakers and by supervisor Pashong. It omitted the Annie the dog issue that we had to deal with. And I can tell that that's been by the lack of reaction. I can tell. So we'll just keep that as an inside joke. But I, among difficult moments, high stakes litigation, uncertainties that have been visited upon the county and they're there you are. I dare say that every one of the 12 supervisors that you've served with, and I take no exception to this, has caused you to have either indigestion or an extra glass of wine in the evening, and I'm struck, our incoming council in Solabahair referenced the awarding of the James Lindholm Junior Legacy Award, not given every year, let's be clear, but the County Council's Association of California has seen that. In their findings as to the reasons why this should be given, and I consulted with CCAC Executive Director this morning. A lot of things that Rita's done, but she's also given continuing education classes. And in specifically, they said that her specialty was the Brown Act and other board matters. And so, within that heading of other board matters, what I realize is that Rita has had a set of experiences that will form a memoir much more valuable than her pension. Should it ever be published. So I come now to try to sum up your career, what you've meant to this organization, what you've meant to me as a county supervisor and a friend. And I'm stalling now. I'm utterly, I was utterly at a loss, all I can think of is with your departure, goes from this organization, a huge piece of our heart, our soul and our brains. And I wish you only the best. And I know that your energy is undiminished. Sorry, Mr. Grant. Thank you. As all I can say. All right, well, I really have very few things to add to everything. Rita, it's been an honor for all of us and you know how much we love you and respect you. Your fears, your funny, your warm and we just, we value this so much and I'm so glad we've had this morning today, this time to just spend with you and to let you know how much we care. I think that you know that idea of how you spend time with each of us, whoever we are amongst the things, you give us the sense that we're going to be okay and that we're doing the right thing. And that is a real gift to be able to give that to individuals. And I know when I walked in this building in the height of COVID, as a appointed supervisor, nobody's in the building except Rita. It was, I mean, you helped me survive. And I know I can speak for all of us that we just have a very big warm heart of thanks for you. So here's to your future. Okay. All right. All right. We're going to take a break right now. And there are refreshments on the outside. And we'll be back at about 10.45. We're going to get started again here after that really wonderful morning start to our day. Clerk introduced and I'm opening this up for public comment for any items not on the agenda. It's public comment time. So I'm going to start with Mr. McKibney on item 24. Please go ahead, filed by Darrell Torell. Back to county business, but first congratulations on your retirement, Rita. And as year old I can tell you they're not always as one planned. But while you're still here maybe you could let the board know if my coming proposal is legal and possible. Patrick McGibney chair the Los Oso Sustainability Group to be clear our NGO is neither anti-growth nor anti-development, but we are very protective of our only water source. There are four proposals and appeals before you today. And they're all based on the same premise as all the other appeals we've brought to you that are water-based and is not sustainable even for the present population. And actual data shows that. Traditionally, I would get 10 minutes to present evidence why a proposal should not be approved in five minutes to close or rebut the applicant's remarks. That would theoretically give me 15 minutes on the floor for each appeal. But today I would like to propose this. There is a PowerPoint to be presented. And instead of breaking it up into five and 10 minute blocks, I suggest we take our time now, present the PowerPoint, which we'll try to complete in less than the allotted time. And then we'll be done. It will apply to all four appeals. You can vote and deal with each of the other three appeals with no further input from us. You save time and the PowerPoint is easy to understand. Otherwise, it'll be very fragmented and the continuity could be lost and your understanding diminished. Please consider this. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Tarell, followed by David Yogi. Good morning, honorable chair and honorable supervisors. My name is Darrell Terrell. I'm a resident of the city of Merino Valley in Riverside County. If you don't know where that's at, that's like three hours, probably way from here. But for the past three months, I have tirelessly advocated before various county boards and supervisors. like LA County, Ventura, Orange County, Imperial, Santa Barbara, Kern County, to ask them to review my county's catalytic converter unlawful possession ordinance. If they find it to be half married, to have them to adopt a similar ordinance to ensure concency across our 58 counties. Now, I went before my county board of supervisors back in, it was May 17, 2022. I went there because of my friends that got their catalytic Verus stolen. And one of my coworkers got their stolen at our job. So this has impacted our community, but our state wasn't doing anything. Our county, our city wasn't doing anything. So I went before in my border supervisors three times to ask them to what I presented to you guys to pass this and done orders not know eight You skate with the state law currently is and you may be asking what is eight you skate What it does the state Caledicta Verlo AB641 Allows these to possess up to eight Caledicta Verters and nothing happens to What kind of sense does that make? So what I did, I went down there working two jobs, went before the board of supervisors, as I said, I went to my county board supervisor, he said, you have ordinance. I said, sure, I have a San Bernardino County, so I gave it to him. And so we passed that ordinance on September 12th, 2023. So I went out to rest of my county, rest of our cities. People say, you're crazy, they ain't gonna happen, they ain't not gonna adopt. We did. All 20 cities and I kind of under the one and you're done. Not eight, you skate. So when my whole thing is to come here, I shouldn't have to do this. My state, my state, a similar person should be able to do this, but he ain't gonna do it. So I took it upon myself to go to the cities, to the counties I could go to and have us do it together. And send a message to Sacramento that we can make the change. We don't need no governor sign of law. We don't need no legislature to do. We could do a city, I mean county by county. And we could do that. We could show these criminals, we mean business. We hold them accountable, not like the state of California is doing right this moment. So I hope you consider to looking at it. Thank you. Thank you sir. Followed by Julia, Julie Mansfield Wells. We'll follow David Jo. Thank you. My name is David Jo from Moral Bay. Congratulations, Rita. I thought many times that why I'm here is because I'm fighting ignorance, but I find that ignorance can be cured by education. What I am fighting is arrogance. the people of how can I put this? I have a document here. There's about 336 pages of names, both sides of the children of Gaza. These are the children of Gaza. These are the children from ages 0 to 17. This is only about two thirds of those. These are children who will never experience the joy of having a celebration like we just had for Rita. That's been stolen from them. Our educational system is working through Don Attis right now trying to pass a bill that will prevent and retard our educational system so that our children here will become of the mentality of the children who grew up to murder these children. I'm hoping that this board in any way shape or form can understand the arrogance of the Israeli people and the arrogance of the attempt of Don Addis to bring that ADL education into our school system to treat our children, to reduce them to a point where they will, I don't like being here. You guys do a lot of good work. Dandal came to you and insulted you and said, you have not done enough. This is more than enough. These lives were a value, and they will not be able to enjoy all the benefits that we enjoy. Our educational system is under attack by Donatus and the ADL and the Jewish caucus. Please help prevent our children from being marginalized and destroyed. The humanity Israel has stolen the humanity of their children. Don't let it happen to ours, please. Please. Thank you, Mr. Yo. And next, Julie Mansfeld Wells, followed by Jill Semich. Hi, good morning. I'm honored to be here during Women's History Month and congratulations to read on your retirement. Today March 11th is the anniversary of the catastrophic nuclear accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in Japan. Generations of people who breathe air, drink water, eat fish from the sea or plants grown in contaminated soil will be exposed to the carcinogens from the radioactive material released into the environment that doesn't decay for tens of thousands of years. We're here today, I'm here with mothers for peace, and we're here today on the anniversary of that tragic accident to remind the county and the public that like Fukushima, we have an old aging nuclear plant operating on our coast. With each year of continued operation at Diablo Canyon, the risk of a catastrophic nuclear accident here increases. Diablo will continue to generate more high level radioactive spent fuel waste, which comes out far more radioactive than it was when it was first loaded into the reactor. And since there is currently no permanent storage repository for the toxic waste, it will continue to accumulate on our coast. Long after Diablo has generated its last watt of energy, and PG&E has collected the last dollar of revenue from us. The radioactive mess they are creating will remain a hazard for future generations to deal with. I respectfully request that the Board of Supervisors rescind their resolution of March 26, 2024, supporting PG&E's 20-year license renewal request. The costs and risks to Olive California to keep the aging plant running far outweigh any short-term financial benefits to the county. And I hope you will consider my request to rescind your resolution. Thank you. Thank you. Jill, followed by Linda Parks. Hello, I'm Jill Zammak. I live in a rural Grande. As county emergency planners update the multi-jurisdictional hazard mitigation plan to see how the county can protect the public and the event of a nuclear accident. Consider this. You're recently purchased van, your potassium iodide, tablets, your evacuation routes, your emergency broadcasts and PG&E sirens won't save us. Only closing down the the Di Canyon nuclear plant can protect us. Fourteen years ago today on March 11, 2011, the Fukushima nuclear disaster forced 150,000 people to leave their homes, many permanently, and the environmental destruction continues. Similarly, a nuclear accident at Diablo Canyon, whether due to a seismic event, operational error or active terrorism, could wipe out entire communities. Keeping the old Diablo nuclear plant operating, a plant that just experienced a rod drop accident due to corrosion is unnecessary and certainly not worth the risk to those of us living in the vicinity and downwind 28th of this month marks the 46th anniversary of another nuclear disaster at Three Mile Island These accidents are our canaries in the coal mine and we best heed the warnings. Let's shut down Diablo Canyon. Thank you Thank you Linda Parks followed by Jane Swanson. Good morning supervisors. Congratulations, county council, Neil. My name's Linda Parks. Last year on the anniversary of the Fukushima nuclear disaster, I joined mothers for peace standing out in front of the Diablo Nuclear Power Plant. And the sign I held said, remember Fukushima. I held the sign and I waived at the PG&E employees as their cars streamed out at the end of their shift. I was really surprised at their reaction. Many gave me the thumbs up. And I really respect that because Fukushima showed us what could go wrong and how we can learn from it. For example, both Diablo Canyon and Fukushima Diyachi nuclear plants began construction in the 1960s. Both are in areas of earthquake faults and both were engineered to rely on the intake of ocean water to cool their reactors. The earthquake and tsunami that caused the loss of reactor core cooling at Fukushima led to three nuclear meltdowns, three hydrogen explosions and the release of radioactive contamination. We are now aware that Diablo Canyon was unknowingly built on earthquake faults and the nuclear regulatory commission staff rated Diablo Canyon as one of the top three most in brittle reactors in the nation. Now that California has rapidly developed renewable energy and battery storage, Diablo Canyon is no longer needed. For the sake of public safety, let's get Diablo Canyon decommissioning back on track. Thank you. Thank you. Ms. Wanson, followed by Mr. Kirkman after Ms. Wanson. Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you for the opportunity. Ms. Swanson followed by Mr. Kirkman after Ms. Swanson. Thank you for the opportunity. Jane Swanson, I am also with San Luis Obispo, mothers for peace. On this 14th anniversary of the ongoing Fukushima nuclear disaster that my friend Julie describes so well. Mother's for Peace wants to thank supervisors Bruce Gibson and James Pauline for not supporting the 2024 agenda item of the present chair, which called for an extension of the operations of Diablo Canyon for an additional 20 years. Mother's repeat also wants to thank our state senator, Laird. Point who pointed out in his letter to this board of March 13, 2024 that some important safety issues had not yet been resolved. That remains true today. The level of embrittlement of the unit one reactor vessel has not been tested by PG&E since 2003. It's supposed to be tested every 10 years by regulation, but they manage not to complete the task. P.G.N.A. has now committed to having the right tools on hand to do that testing during the reloading of fuel next month in April. But the report to tell the results of that testing will not be finalized until the fall of 2026. So we have a ways to go before all the safety facts are known about that one issue of Inventement. Yeah, three supervisors voted last year to increase the risks to our communities and others downwind of the plant without having this crucial safety information. We appreciate the courage and ethical leadership of our elected representatives who prioritize the safety of their constituents above the financial gains of PG&E. Thank you. Mr. Kirkland, there you are. Thank you, Gary Kirkland from Atasket Air. Two weeks ago the Board of Supervisors, I think it was two weeks ago, voted to create a new level of government over the past old basin to save the groundwater, I guess was the purpose. And one of the supervisors, Don Ortiz Lega had mentioned that there was some disinformation and that she wanted the county to put out information to support this new level of government. My position is that's using my tax money to try to convince me of some issue. What the county should do on any issue is put those positions for and against creating this new level of government, which the people up there will get to vote on. And the government, any level of government, if they're going to present information, they should put information on all sides of any particular issue. Later on, you guys are going to talk about Los Osos preventing people to build on their own property. This country was founded on the private property rights. And what this county board should do is allow people to build on their own property because that's the foundation of a free society. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Kirkland. Okay. Any further public comment on items not on the agenda? If not, I will close public comment and we will go to the next item and ask the clerk to pose. Excuse me. I'm sorry, Madam Chair. I'm sorry to interrupt. Yes. On the matter that Mr. Terrell raised on the catalytic converter ordinance, he has actually come from Riverside County this morning to address us. He comes with a recommendation from a couple of my trusted colleagues, a former Riverside County Supervisor and the affirmative vote by a current Riverside County Supervisor. So I wonder if I could get my colleagues to agree to ask our incoming and I emphasize incoming County Council to review the materials that Mr. Terrell provided us and get back to the board in an appropriate time as to whether we might want to consider such an ordinance. I can make that a formal motion if you wish if we can otherwise just do board consensus. I would appreciate it. So, Professor Murrita, I'd actually like to know first, if staff could come back and let us know, is this a problem that we're having in a community or are we seeing this happen because if not, I don't want us to do work, I don't need to do. The thought would be to consult with the public safety sheriff's and the DA about the level of this, the enforcement possibilities, and again, if there's something there to come back to us. I can support that. Yeah, I'm supervisor Prishan. If we're talking about AB 641, which assemblyman Vince Fong's bill, I certainly would be interested in hearing the report on it. Okay. Oh, I agree. I think that's a good idea and support the motion. If that is a motion. I think if council sees that as General Sport consensus, we'll move forward with that. Yeah, I think General's Board consensus is fine and I'll have Mr. Antsill about his team look into it. It's started, put it on his list. Put it on the list. Yeah, thank you, supervisor Gibson, for making the actions on that today. And thank you, Mr. Trial, for coming all this way on this issue, which we do know lots of people that are Catholic converters tolin'. So it's interesting to get the information. Okay, now, Mr. Brunel, I am, I don't think that your, your, your item is on a closed session item, Bob Jones Trail. We have that in the closed session. So your public comment time will be, once we finish our board board business and then we'll go into closed session. So that's when you get an opportunity to speak. Okay? Thank you. All right. Let's go now to the clerk reading the next item, please. Item number 25. the fiscal year 2024 25 year 2024, 25, second, quarter, financial status report, and a request to approve various financial actions and approve a correcting resolution amending position allocation list for Fund Center 132 district attorney. Okay, administrative office is presenting. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning to your person or dieselac and board of supervisors. My name is Ola Nanakona and I'm administrative analyst for county administrative office. Today I will be presenting the second quarter of Financial Status Report for the fiscal year 2425. The second quarter spans from October 1st through December 31st. This is an exception only report, meaning no mention is made of fund center if it is within expected parameters. We have eight new issues to report in the second quarter. There are other three issues we previously reported on in the first quarter. Stuff report goes into greater detail on those issues, but I will speak to Sam generally and touch on some significant changes compared to the prior quarters. This table compares revenue and expattern to your patterns through the end of the second quarter of this year compared to the previous year for both governmental funds and general fund. For both governmental fund and general fund, revenues and expenditure patterns are on part with prior year. I would like to highlight that revenue realization rates are typically lower at the end of the second quarter. You to select and vote in billion cycles, received over reimbursements, and because some of the largest revenue resources, property tax phones Apple, I typically realize near the end of the fiscal year. Moving into notable issues. From land-based group, planning in building is expecting at 2.7 million in revenue shortfall, primarily due to decrease in the building and land use permanent revenues, due to the general market trends. The department anticipates being able to mitigate this revenue shortfall by its expenditure savings was no additional impact to the general fund. Our second group is public protection. From Sheriffs is projected to be 4.3 million over its budget level of general fund support. Due to their 4.4 million and budgeted seller and benefits expenses on account of overtime and budgeted seller and benefit increases. And 1.2 revenue shortfall mainly to 1.2 million revenue shortfall mainly due to unfilled positions that are upset by revenues and under budgeted projects. Court of Preparation is projected to be 367,000 over its budgetal level of general fund support to the revenue shortfall for fines, for purchase and penalties, and as well under the last revenue for recording fees. This slide focuses on our third group, the Health and Human Services. First, fund center on the slide, foster care and adoption, is projecting to be over its budgeted level of journal fund support to do increases in costs for placement and care. The remaining two fund centers, CalWORKS and Journal general assistance, oppose projected to be over zero budget level of general fund support due to the case of growth. All three fund centers have some over realized revenues of setting the portion of their expenditures. The department's is projecting that it will be able to absorb all impact with over realized revenue and savings in other fund centers within the department of social services. Moving into the community services. Both community parks and regional parks are projecting revenue shortfall. Community parks experience in revenue shortfall due to the under-reliced rental revenues. Regional parks in addition to decline in cap-ground and lake-used revenue, experiencing over-expanded chart due to the under-elect rental revenues. Regional parks, in addition to the decline in cap-ground and lake-use revenue, ex-experiencing over-expanded trade due to the increase in cost for utilities. Gold core courses project an unbearable budget variance, mainly due to the un of the Department of the Department of the Department of the Department of the Department of the Department of the Department of the Department of the Department of the. The Zennad change you see for each quarter is only the change that happened with Zennad's specific quarter. The total not decreased in the position sense of the fiscal year is 3.5 full-time equivalent positions. Zenn increased in expenses associated with the Zennad change but some expenses offset by some sort of revenue. There is an estimated 468,000 in additional expenditure for the fiscal year 2425 related to those changes and an increase of 14,000 for general fund. Moving to the fiscal year 2526, there is an estimated increase of $357,000, which 211,000 is General Fund. And a max step for this position will result in an increase of $295,000, of which 285,000 will be General Fund. This is a summary of the recommendation included in the staff report. That concludes our presentation and the representatives from the administrative office and other departments on hand to answer your questions. Thank you, Madam. Questions from the board? Yes. Supervisor Marino. One brief question on page, kind of bottom of nine and top of ten of the staff report talks about the impact of the position allocation list changes. Yes. And we have basically a deficit of 8.5 or a loss of 8.5 positions. It seems to indicate that's an increased budgetary impact and I was wondering why that was the case or am I misreading that. So technically it is correct. We do have a decrease of positions and mainly it is because we had a couple items that had reorganizations which did decrease general fund but we do add so increase for at max that will be around which accounts for two positions that we added, which will be adding for the General Fund because those positions are for planning and building and human resources. They are it's going to be 0.5 of senior planner and one human resource analyst. So at max that will be addition to us in 295,000, which will be offset from some decrease in other positional kitchen changes. So the 11.5 that we brought on, those were more significant, and then other changes as well, that sort of negate any savings, if you will, of the 20. Yeah, and the difference is the numbers of county wide positions that are funded with other funding sources, other than the general fund, versus those positions that have been added. So there is a general fund increase. Okay, compared to the other ones that Have offsetting or decrease another revenue. Okay, it does say that it is estimated that these positions meaning that decrease of 8.5 Have an increased budgetary impact of 468,000. So that just seemed like a lot I'm not. Some of the positions are limited to. So like which will you will see for the 2425s increases more than for next year because a lot of them are limited to positions. And but from which we're in belief. So we're just talking the makeup of the positions. Exciting, you know, losing some short term or, you know, smaller positions versus more significant ones is what you're kind of what I'm reading. There is a number of positions each year that are limited term that potentially fell off at the end of the calendar year. And so there's the decrease and we wouldn't budget for that. So that decrease wouldn't show the impact to the budget because we wouldn't have budgeted for them. So what we're seeing is the true budgetary increase of change of positions. That makes sense. Thank you both. Any further questions? Board? None? Seeing none, I'll open public comment. and ask anybody for public comment. I don't think we have any slips to speak on this. This is a somewhat of a routine effort here. I'm going to close public comment and bring it back to the board of supervisors and supervisor Paul. Thank you, Chair. I'd be happy to move staff's recommendation on the second. Second. We'll. We'll. From who's going to take the second? Okay. Okay. Supervisor Marino is going to take the second. Okay. Supervisor Paul D. Yes. Supervisor Marino. Yes, ma'am. Supervisor Pashong. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you very much. Thank you. Lisa. Thank you, staff. And department heads. All right. We're going to move on to the next item on the agenda. Please. ahead item number 26 requests to adopt the facilities and infrastructure five year capital improvement plan find that the plan conforms to the general plan and approve a 9 9 923 million budget adjustment by a 4 5th Okay, well welcome public works. Well, let's get settled in here. And... Okay, well welcome public works. Well, let's you get settled in here and Okay proceed. Okay, good morning Board Public, John Diadotti with Director of Public Works and with Meez Lacey Minnick, our Capital Planning Facilities Manager. We're going to be giving the presentation today. And this is our five year capital improvement plan. What we're going to cover today is an overview of the plan. I'll be giving that and then I'm going to hand over the presentation to Lacey so she can cover facilities and I'll wrap up with infrastructure and our recommendations for your board. So just as a primer, one slide we show every year, this is a rolling five year CIP plan where we track projects over $100,000 in value and we're showcasing fiscal year 2025, 26 through 29,30. Also another slide we show just to give the public the difference between facilities and infrastructure these are all the categories that fall under both. On a basic level facilities are places people go and infrastructure are things that people use. So the objectives today we are going to have to make sure that this is a consistent and compliant annual process. It's required by state law. And there needs to be a finding that the projects are consistent with the general plan. We coordinate with various departments to make sure that their needs are met now and in the future. We need to make sure that it's aligned with the general plan, county budget and any conceptual or master plans that are in existence. We do our best to identify funding sources even five years out. And we want to make sure it's transparent for the public and community partners that we're reporting on what projects are planned over the next five years. But what's important for public works is we want to showcase all the important projects your board has funded. So we're going to talk about completed projects, projects that are underway and then projects that are cute up in the future. As we go through the annual process, this is sort of the way we roll it out. We identify projects, we prioritize and estimate those projects when we work with all the stakeholders to make sure that these are the projects they want to see moving forward. We look at any plans and projects and then we review with your board and communicate to the public today. So in this plan there's 37 facility projects totaling 274 million, 41 infrastructure projects, totaling 416 million, for a total of 78 projects. But that's really underrepresented because there's some programs in that 78. In particular, our Prave of Management program is a lot of projects, but it's counted as one here in the plan. And our Facility of Condition Assessment, where we're out doing projects and almost every building in the county on a daily basis. That counts as one project as well, but it's just, it's multiple projects. All right, this is a new slide. There's three types of projects in the plan. Past, present, and future. And past projects are the ones that were obviously completed in calendar year 2024. The present projects, which is the bulk of this plan, there's kind of two groups. There's fully funded projects that are in the process of project delivery, and those will be done because they're fully funded and in progress. But then there's projects that still have funding needs and they're within the five-year time frame of the plan. And those most likely will be done but can't be guaranteed. Some are underway with funding, some haven't started. So there's just less certainty around the delivery of those projects but because they're in the five-year window they're shown here. And then I want to emphasize this is also a five year forecast. It's not a five year construction schedule. So projects within this plan many will be completed under five years and some will take longer than five years to complete. This slide shows the total cost in the next five fiscal years by facilities and by infrastructure. And the first two fiscal years are much larger because those projects are under project delivery right now. So there's certainty around those project costs. But as we get out into the future, estimating and forecasting, we just have less confidence in those numbers. So those estimates aren't has refined and there's just lower numbers to report. And with that, I'm going to hand over the presentation to Lacey to talk about facilities. Good morning chair, chair woman or T's leg and members of the board, Lacey Minnick, public works. I will provide an update on the capital projects at county facilities, starting with projects completed in 2024, and then projects in the five-year capital improvement plan. So over the past year, we have completed 25 facilities projects at a total cost of approximately $8 million. Projects included paving, replacing roofs and windows, HVAC equipment, fire alarms and electrical systems, and remodeling restrooms and kitchens in different facilities. To highlight some of the projects completed last year, I'll start with the project to modify the apparatus bay at the Astero Bay Fire Station. In 2022, County Fire purchased new apparatus to comply with air quality emission standards and the additional emissions equipment on those apparatus increased the height such that they no longer fit in the bay. So to prevent increased response times, we expanded the opening for the apparatus bay doors, modernized some facility equipment, and addressed miscellaneous accessibility-related deficiencies. The facility is now ready for the new apparatus to arrive in September. Continuing with the theme of public safety, we also completed two projects to replace public safety communications towers that had reached the end of their useful life. This photo shows the new 110-foot tower on Questa Peak, counting from the left, it's the fourth tower in the lineup. Earlier in this presentation, John mentioned that projects can be in the plan for extended periods of time. This project is an example of that, as it first appeared in the plan presented to your board in 2016 and remained in the plan for nine subsequent years while it was in the process of project delivery. Another project that was completed last year was the replacement of an emergency generator at the emergency operations center. The original generator was installed when the facility was constructed in the 1980s. The project was funded by the state, specifically the California Office of Emergency Services, the APG&E who shares the facility. We also completed several projects through the Facility Condition Assessment Program, including removal and replacement of the composition shingle roof, downspouts and gutters at the San Miguel Community Center. As part of this project, we were able to complete a sizable seismic retrofit, including reinforcement and replacement of sections of the foundation, construction of shear walls, and reinforcement of roof to wall and floor to wall connections. We also replaced 16 natural gas-powered water heaters with energy-efficient heat pump water heaters at 15 different facilities. And we were able to leverage an incentive program through PG&E to offset 61% of the project costs. Finally, the Parks and Recreation Department completed a project to improve the cave landing parking lot by adding compacted road base, installing accessible parking spaces, creating an overlook, adding trash receptacles and bicycle racks, establishing bioswills for stormwater runoff, and adding safety, regulatory and interpretive signage. This $1.1 million project was funded with parks and Recreation Development Impact fees and a grant from the California State Coastal Conservancy. Moving on from completed projects, as John mentioned earlier in this presentation, some projects in the plan are fully funded and in the process of project delivery. In this plan, there are 64 facility projects with a total value of $137 million in this category. This chart displays those projects by functional area. The public safety functional area is so substantial because it includes the projects to construct the new public safety communications center, the probation facility, and also to prepare preliminary design documents for the NAPOMO Sheriff's Substation. In contrast, this chart shows the projects that have funding needs within the time frame of this plan. Overall, the plan includes 37 projects with a total estimated cost of $274 million. Some funding sources have been identified and some have not. This chart shows where funding has and has not been identified for projects within each functional area. Significant funding is needed in the parks functional area because it includes property acquisitions between Moro Bay and Cayucas for open space, trails, campgrounds, and day use areas for beach access, as well as the Moro Bay to Cayucas and Templeton to a taskascadero connector trails. Significant funding is needed in the public safety functional area because it includes construction of the Nupomo Sheriff's substation, as well as the project to replace and upgrade electronic access controls, intercom systems and video surveillance systems at all four custody facilities. In the next series of slides, I'll provide an overview on the facility condition assessment program, FCA, the ADA transition plan, our conceptual plan development, and energy efficiency and distributed energy resources. These programs lead to the development of the majority of the projects, facility projects in the plan. Starting with the Facility Condition Assessment Program, this program is designed such that assessments of each facility are conducted on a routine basis. The most recent round of assessments was completed between 2021 and 2023. Notably, the most recent round of assessments included park amenities and public access ways, which were not previously assessed. For example, in previous rounds of the program, a restroom building in a park would have been assessed, but a playground structure would not. In this most recent round, both were assessed. This is the second year that we've transitioned to using this new and larger data set for the purposes of planning projects. Additionally, during our presentation last year, we mentioned that we were in the process of evaluating our pavement systems to assign a pavement condition index, think parking lots that are associated with facilities. This value is now incorporated into our data set and used to plan projects. We measure the condition of our buildings with the facility condition index, which is calculated by dividing the total cost of repairs at each facility by the cost of replacing that facility. The lower the FCI, the better condition the facility is in. This chart shows the FCI for public facilities. Your board has established a target of 5%, which is represented by the horizontal teal line. Starting from the left, the first bar shows the FCI at the time of the initial assessment, which was 21.55%. The second bar shows the current FCI, which reflects all of the deficiencies that have been corrected through the completion of projects. And the third and fourth bar are both representing forecasts. The third bar forecasts what the FCI will be when all of the projects that are currently in process are completed. And the fourth and final bar represents what the FCI will be when all of the projects that are proposed for fiscal year 2526 rather are completed. This chart shows the FCI for non-public facilities in the same format as the prior slide. For these facilities, your board has established a target of 10%. As you can see, when the facilities were initially assessed, the FCI was 24.18%. Since that time, considering completed in progress and planned projects for next fiscal year, the FCI is forecasted to reach 17.35%. As you can see, your board's annual funding commitment to this program directly translates to improved condition of our facilities, thus extending their useful life. Through the facility condition assessment, we recently completed a project to repair seal coat and restripe the parking lots at the Nipoma library. This included addressing a variety of accessibility-related deficiencies to parking spaces, curb ramps, and paths of travel. Another program that is managed by public works is the implementation of the ADA transition plan. This slide shows the total number of deficiencies corrected per year since the plan was updated in 2017. Given the nature of the deficiencies, most have been completed by our maintenance division. However, whenever there's an opportunity to address the deficiency within a project derived via other programs, we do so. An example of that is the Paving Project at the Nippomo Library that we just reviewed. The next initiative is the completion and implementation of conceptual plans. The purpose and intent of these plans is to plan for future county facility needs, balance, stakeholder interests, position the county to submit competitive grant applications, inform the strategic sequencing of capital projects, help guide important budget decisions, especially in these times, and assess the impacts of changing conditions and identify opportunities. In this plan, one of the fully funded projects in the process of project delivery is to develop an updated and more detailed master plan for the Johnson Avenue Health Campus that will result in the identification of individual projects that can be identified, prioritized, funded, planned, and executed. Alternately, one of the projects with funding needs in the timeframe of this plan is the development of a conceptual plan for the current site of the courthouse annex in anticipation of the state constructing a new courthouse at 1144 Monterey Street. Plans that were completed in prior years have enabled us to strategically design the placement of and sequence the delivery of capital projects, including the large projects that are currently underway. For example, the conceptual planning efforts at the North County Regional Center refined the placement of the Public Safety Communications Center in a manner that would provide space for ancillary features, including a 140-foot radio communications tower, and enable other planned development like the Agricultural Commissioners Vehicle Storage Building. This cutting-edge facility is under construction and estimated to be completed at the end of this year. Currently, the contractors are installing security fencing around the site, preparing for interior paint and applying the Stucco color coat. The probation facility is a product of both the Facility Condition and conceptual planning efforts which formalize the need for this project and refined placement on the Johnson Avenue Health campus. This project is also under construction and estimated to be completed next spring. The final concrete retaining wall was recently completed and contractors are erecting the structural steel frame, metal decking and steel stairs. In fact, just this morning, the final dedication beam that everyone signed was just placed. The other major facility project is the complete restoration of Cuyukus Landing, which has functioned as an important community and event center for generations and will soon return to being a wonderful centerpiece of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the city of the process of installing solar car port canopies in parking lot four, which are estimated to be operational later this year. These canopies are estimated to generate 103% of the annual electricity use become at zero upfront cost to the county. Going into the next year, the facilities planning division will also be focused on the following upcoming initiatives. continued refinement of conceptual plans to reflect current conditions and address emerging needs. For example, at your last meeting, your board appropriated $750,000 to prepare conceptual plans and feasibility studies for potential fire stations in Santa Margarita, Oak Shores, and East Oro Grande. Complete physical security facility assessments and leverage that information to plan enhancement projects and to revive a program your board originally established in the 1980s relating to the selection and placement of artwork in and outside of public facilities. Now, John will speak to the infrastructure portion of the plan. Thank you, Lacey. I'm going to cover infrastructure and I'm going to get started with our completed projects in calendar year 2024. There are eight infrastructure projects that we completed with a total value of just over $11 million and I'm going to highlight a couple of them on, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $20, $ collisions by installing a left turn lane on this high speed and high volume road. The project also extended bike lanes to connect to prior projects. And it was mostly funded with road improvement fees, some regional slow cog funds and the county road fund. The next project is the temporary repair of the Nossumino Waterline. This was a storm damage project from 2023. The Nossumino Waterline was originally constructed beyond the River Bank and within this Linus River floodplain. But with the high flows we had in 2023, the river shifted course and eroded a large river bank of this area and exposed the water line and damaged it and caused quite a large break. This portion of the line is an important drinking water source for the city of San Luis Obispo, so temporary repairs were necessary. And they'll provide seasonal water delivery through an above ground high line until we were able to do a permanent relocation of the water line. And then when there are high flows in the slinets, we have to cut off water to the city of San Luis Obispo to protect the temporary line. Public works is currently designing the permanent repair, which is gonna relocate the line out of the floodplain to allow it to be more resilient in future storms. Another example is of a storm repair damage is pine noles and I like this one because this is pretty indicative of what a lot of our storm repairs look like in 2023. To date date 168 of the original 256 stormed damage sites have been repaired. Road repairs on pine noles, like I said, were very typical to the repairs in 2023. Prior to the work, the hill below the road had eroded and partially collapsed, resulting in a narrow one lane road section with a very steep drop off to the side. When we complete these projects, we restore the road to the previous width. We include modern standards to support the roadway, such as a rock slope protection area, and install drainage pipes to prevent future road failure. This graph is a snapshot of the value of the fully funded infrastructure projects, either in progress or to be started soon. They total $71 million. For flood control, starting from the left, this includes two projects in flood zone 1-1-A the erud groundy channel and storm damages. Road preservation, another higher bar includes paving management projects, storm damage repairs and road impact fee update studies. And then on the two large bars transportation betterments, that's largely driven up because of the avalanche roundabout project making up the majority of the cost there. Transportation structures are our bridge projects in progress including those that were in construction in 2024 and then on the far right water systems are a little bit higher than others because of a new water tank in CSA-23 which is Santa Santa Margarita. This chart shows a total cost estimates for plan projects compared to the known funding. Many projects in the five year CAP show a portion of funding approved or listed as proposed when a likely funding source is known, and then funding that is to be identified results in a shortfall, and that's what we're showing here is shortfalls. So on road capacity, this category relies largely on road impact fees. And the shortfall here is Main Street at 101 in Templeton. For road preservation, this is actually a little bit misleading because we have about a $5 million need annually on road preservation to keep our PCI at 65. But because we fund the projects to the available funding, it doesn't look like we have a shortfall here. Our PCI is currently 58 and not at the board goal of 65. For road safety, there's a small shortfall there, and that's from a lost obelis at 101 interchange improvements. And if for transportation structures, this is our highway bridge program, and the shortfall there is our local match. And when we have a project that's ready to construct, we have to pull our local match from road restoration and not do as much paving on an annual basis. Waste water systems, there's two projects in Oak shores that are shown here as a shortfall and if we're not able to get grant funds, we'll have to raise the water rates in that community. And then water systems, the shortfall there is related to storm damage and we're either waiting for female reimbursements or we're going to have to put the cost on rate payers to make up that shortfall. All right. Now I'm going to talk about some of the key initiatives for transportation infrastructure. On the next few slides, the bridge program, our pavement management program, ADA transition plan, and then other transportation and storm projects. You've seen this slide before. It's our bridge program. It's updated, though, to show what's been completed and what's in planned. Red are the completed projects there. We also have several small bridges that are our local responsibility. They're not part of the Federal Highway Bridge program. So we have the fund those and those are the ones shown in blue and then a couple of storm damage projects that we're working on. Overall, the program continues to grow and we deliver projects, three projects from a construction in 2024. And while none of those are completed right now, they are being wrapped up. In 2025, we're gonna see one bridge project under construction with two more plan to be bid and under contract by the end of 2025 so they can be ready to start construction in 2026. In total, four bridges are planned to be under construction in 2026, including South Bay Boulevard and Los Osos, which would be our largest bridge project to date. This slide is a video of our recently completed El Camino Realt Bridge project in Santa Margarita. The work started in early 2024 and was substantially completed by the end of this year. It replaced a deficient two-lane bridge with a new bridge that includes a center turn lane and bike lanes. The project also relocated the NOSU mental waterline from a separate pipe bridge and to a location under this new bridge. Okay, we've also showed this slide a couple times to you and past presentations. It's our pavement management program. This one's been updated to reflect our most recent pavement condition index or PCI. The green lines are roads that are in good or better condition. Yellow is fair condition and red purple are poor condition. While the overall PCI, the county is approximately 58, almost 10% below the goal of our 65, the urban and suburban areas are an overall good condition and those are high volume, high used roads. In 2022, the board adopted strategies to provide direction to maintain urban and suburban roads at 55 PCI or better, and to incrementally improve poor condition role roads to 35 PCI or better. Implementing this will start to show improvements in our role roads and looking forward showing you future graphs in the future. We've also been working on our ADA transition plan in our right away. These are some really impressive stats to share with you. We continue to make progress on our ADA transition plan on our county roads as a component of pavement management so we combine the ADA projects with our paving contracts. Within the areas to be paved, curb ramps that do not meet current ADA standard compliance or replace for repaired in coordination with those projects. Number of ramps that we repair very easy each year, and it really depends on the mileage of urban roads, the ones that have sidewalks and Kerr Bramps that are under contract for paving, because rural roads don't typically have Kerr Bramps. Here's an example of a recent pavement management project in Cayucas, where repair the curb ramp in front of an elementary school. Curbramps are complicated because they have to meet several criteria for slope, tactile domes, and have a smooth transition to the roadway. Another fun video to share with you. This one is go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead and go ahead I'm going to put almost at the end. This is the last project I want to highlight. This project shows some of the interim repairs we had to do to the 2023 storms. This is a bridge on Creston Road east of Templeton. The bridge was significantly damaged during those storms and closed for several weeks. And the creek washed out the bank beneath the road and eroded the area behind and under the bridge abutment, which caused a roadway to sink several inches and raised concerns that the road was actually going to collapse. So an interim repair was completed in 2023 to reinforce the existing abutments and shore up the bridge deck to support the road. So it could be used again. And this is an area of vineyards and wineries and rural residents. So it was an important bridge in the county and North County roadructure. The project also restored the bank and protected the toe of the bank with large rock so we could further protect the bridge. And it's similar to an interim project like the Nassumento project. So temporary repairs get the bridge back in function while we work on design for a permanent repair. Design and construction contract for this bridge are being prepared. Construction to replace the bridge is expected in 2026 and it will be funded with Federal Highway Administration funds. So that wraps up the presentation. This is where you can find the public, can find the five-year CIP online. And our recommendations for your board are to adopt the five-year CIP, find that it's in conformance with the general plan and approve a budget adjustment in the amount of 9,923,000 to WBS 320215 for the Sheriff Nippomo construction of a new substation. And with that we of questions for you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. go ahead then. I'll ask my question. I have a couple of questions. One, on the health campus, you know, we... I saw the item in regards to the new public health building, which we know we need of new public health building. But there was also another item in regards to the demolition, which is already included in the new probation building that's being built, the demolition of the old probation building, and then some money set aside to decide what's going to happen at that location. Can you give me a timeline on what that is? That's very important to my constituents in that area. And they would like to be able to have input on what of the stakeholder processes. So if we could educate me on that a little bit, I would really appreciate it. So a few fiscal years ago, your board appropriated $250,000 to update that master plan. So when that master plan was last done, it essentially identified all of the needs and it broke the needs into two phases. And the first phase was construction of the probation department facility, which is well underway. And the second phase was everything else, addressing all of those other needs. And so what we are doing now is updating that conceptual plan that process should take about 10 months or 10 to 12 months and really diving into identifying individual projects that will address needs that we can deliver in sequence and prioritizing those as far as the most important to least important. Understood, that sounds great. When we're talking about the, I think it's a loma, I always wanna call it loma Linda, that's not the name of the building. Casa Loma. Casa Loma, thank you. The Casa Loma building, that 250 was just for that or for conceptual for the campus because you have the other campus study going on as well Exactly, so the demolition of the cost alone my building is actually included in the overall budget for the probation department the construction of the new probation building Yes, so that is totally set aside and then separate is you've already set aside funding your board has for the for the master plan. Okay, I see. One of the things that we have talked about as a board is workforce housing. And is that on the needs list in regards to overall campus? I mean, we know that we have things, we have buildings there, but we also have open space and we will have more open space. And how do we have, we'd like to add workforce housing into that mix of that needs assessment. That can certainly be added as a need that can be evaluated. I would like that. I don't know if I have to make any action on that, but I think that's something that we would like to, would it be in consideration of? Okay. I just have a piggyback question. I be in consideration of, okay? I just have a piggyback question. I guess in terms of process there, there's the master planning process that you mentioned that builds on the concept plan for the whole campus. I guess from a process timeline standpoint, when would the board have an opportunity to engage in, at least some level of review or discussion around those campus level objectives? For example, building the workforce housing component. Thank you. I feel like. That's historically not been a component of these conceptual plans, so we would have to add that into the process by either having board members as stakeholders in the development or bringing it to the board for final adoption. And if that's your desire, we'd like you to make action and have us do that as part of the conceptual plan is bring it back to the board for a board business discussion. I think it's important in that location. We have a lot going on there and we'll have the welcome home village as well. There's a lot of community impact as well as just need. And we don't want to get in your way, so to speak, but we certainly feel the need to, as things have changed as well. I mean, we have different needs now than perhaps we did 10 years ago or something. And we are certainly housing and particularly for our workforce is a critical need. So we would like to have that be added into the process. I just had to follow up for maybe our CEO if he wanted to chime in in terms of how you would ideally want to have that kind of discussion. Is it an individual board member level discussion before we would have a kind of open session discussion on it or do you have any thoughts or ideas in terms of process? Thanks, sir. You know, thank you. So thanks, Director Diadotti, for keying all this up and lacy for a great presentation. You know, we're happy to have a conversation about the conceptual plans that have been done previously. And as a supervisor stated, there's been a lot of changes over the years and different kinds of things. You know, certainly adding in the homeless, local home village into that particular campus wasn't originally part of the conceptual plans for the campus. So as we look through all of the different needs of the campus and prioritize some of the replacements of those capital projects. I think it's fair to bring them back and have those conversations with the board. I know that the public health is on the list for a new facility. We also have the Ag and UC Extension building there that we are reviewing to make sure that that site makes the most sense for us to have operations there or if they've outgrown the site and whether the neighborhood compatibility issues within all of our facilities fit within that neighborhood. So we'd be happy to look at the process and figure out best where to integrate that kind of discussion back into the annual reporting and then we'll get back to you on when that will be. Thank you. Yep, thank you. All right. Any further questions? Appreciate that. I'm going to open the public comment right now on this item. And see if there's any public comment regarding our capital improvement. And I have one speaker slip that I'm looking at him right now. Sheriff Parkinson, please. I'll frame that thing. Probably not complete. Good morning. Ian Parkinson's, Sheriff Corner. I just wanted to touch on the public's substation for just a moment. And I know you've been very supportive of it, but I just kind of want to, for the public, make a statement on it. So when I came into office almost 15 years ago, what was on the five-year CIP was a new Sheriff's Administration Building, which don't get me wrong. It grossly needs it. It's 1971 building, but my priorities were different. I really felt that what was most important is the people out in the field needed the proper facilities before administrative type people. So I really focused on two main projects. One is co-located dispatch, which we're doing with Cal Fire, which you've seen the pictures of, amazing building. And it's going to last a very long time. Public Works has done a great job managing that project to be on time and in budget which is always a good thing. The second was the NPPO will substation which has been in about a decade in the works. We did have a early plan and some discussion but I think largely I think because of support, because of supervisor Paul Ding pushing for it, we have taken that next step. And now I just wanna mention why is it important? One is the size of NAPOMO. NAPOMO is growing. The area that we patrol in around NAPOMO is larger than any of the small cities down in South County. Two is allowing the public to actually have a place to go and report crime and also have a public meeting space which is included in our plans, our early plans. And the third is response times. Right now everybody working out of South County is working out of the Oceano sub station which is really a little small but with an apomo station open and being able to move some of that staff to the new building it will allow us to use that building longer which I know the county is now the owner to that building, which is a good thing to have a county-owned building. But the response time, so deputies will start the shift and the shift at NAPOMO. Their response times when they're in writing reports out in the community will be there. Plus, you know, even if you look at the snapshot of the community now, not only has a larger population in the small cities down there, but it has a tremendous territory to cover, which really affects response time. So if they're coming out of Oshiano to go into Nipomo, you can just imagine the amount of time it takes to get there. And that's ultimately what we want to get there fast in a safe manner. So I really have supported this. I really appreciate your support on this. I think NAPOMO deserves this. They've deserved it for a very long time and now is the time with, especially with projects going on down there for housing that will expand the POMO. And I see, you know, with that project fully going through that that area is going to be larger than probably almost any corporate city that we have. And so I think the need is there. So I just wanna say say thank you for your support and thanks again to Supervisor Pauling for pushing this through. Thank you, Sheriff Parkinson. Comments will take in any other public comment. Seeing none, close public comment and we will, do you want to speak on this item, Mr. Brinnell? Would you like to speak on this item? All right. This is on our capital improvement projects. No, that yeah, we're getting there. Okay, thank you sir. Okay, closing public comment bringing it back to the board supervisor or Sean. I just want to thank the sheriff too for all you've done pushing a lot of these projects forward and really improving public safety in our community. And when time is right I'm ready to make a motion. Okay. Supervisor Paul Dink. Thank you Madam Chair. Thanks to staff. Great presentation. really good work on the co-located dispatch project, we're calling it the Public Safety Communications facility now, but it had an opportunity to tour the project and really impressed with the construction team and the contractor and their work. And of course, the probation building is moving forward. It's great work. And in general, I know we talk about pavement as an important priority of our board. Maybe it isn't the highest priority on our list. We always talk about public safety as the top. Our pavement condition index is pretty the Nippomo Sheriff's Substation. Thank you Sheriff Parkinson for being here today. For your advocacy on the project. Thank you to staff for moving it forward and to this board for also making a priority. It was actually identified in the 1994 community plan as a facility need at that time in the Nupomo area. It is growing. We need to make sure that that response time is adequate for the community. And again, I'm glad to see this project moving forward. Thank you. I'd be happy to, you know, I know you were going to make a motion, but I'll go ahead and move staff's recommendation on this thing. Second. OK. That's any further comment. I just also say thank you to staff for the presentation. I mean, I think we covered just about every area of the county with some very significant projects in regards to public safety, transportation, facilities, all of it. So it's really, really quite respectable showing here today and thank you for your work. Great staff report. Yeah. Roll call please. Supervisor Paul Dean? Yes. Supervisor Pashon? Yes. Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Supervisor Marino? Yes ma'am. And Jefferson or T's like? Yes. Okay. All right. We're going to move to the next item. We'll let planning and building come on in. And we'll give it a second here to switch out and then we'll have the clerk. Item number 27, a hearing to consider an appeal by Patrick McIvney of the Lasosos Sustainability Group of the Planning Commission's approval of the request by Denise Mueller for a variance minor use permit, coastal development permit, to allow grading on slopes and access of 30% for construction of a two-story residence with attached garage exterior deck located at 2831 Alamo Drive in Lasosos. As as chair I just want to say we're going to stick with the Standard format in regards to these items. So please proceed when you're ready. Staff, thank you. Good morning. Good morning, Eric Hughes County Planning and Building. Presenting today we have staff planner, Dan Mueller. And in support we have his super resident Nicole Ellis. Thank you Before we start we definitely need to do some x partays on any Folks that may have had conversations regarding these items Not on this one Same not none for me. No, ma'am. None. Okay, thank you. Please proceed. All right. Thank you, Madam Clerk, a member chair of the board and members of the board of supervisors. My name is Nicole Ellis, supervising planner with the county. And the item before the board for reconsideration today is the request by Denise Mueller for a variance minor use permit and coastal development permit as it's been appealed by Mr. McGibney on behalf of the Lososos sustainability group. Okay so the applicant requests approval of a variance minor use permit and coastal development permit to allow for the construction of a single family residents on a vacant lot of Bunkimrio states in the community of Lososos. The variance is needed due to grading on slopes and excess of 30%. The project was approved by the Planning Commission on November 9, 2023, and an appeal was subsequently filed by Mr. McGibney. Okay, so shown here are the vicinity and aerial maps. Again, you'll see the site's located. It's in a residential single-family neighborhood. And you'll see the property in the yellow outline. It's located between a Rodman drive and Alamo Drive. It's a through lot and it's in the coastal zone. Okay, the following site plan shows the access from Alamo Drive and a lot contains the least amount of and the house has been situated on the portion of the lot that contains the least amount of grade change. So the least site slope. And then you'll see the building elevations show a two story residence with an attached two car garage in some deck areas. Okay, so moving on to the appeal request. in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in the area that is in project would affect water resources of an overdrafted basin, primarily related to Will serve letters. Okay, so appeal issue one is related to the county's local coastal program, Public Works Policy One specifically. So to address this item, Public Works Policy Run requires that new development demonstrate adequate service capacities to service the proposed development. So the site is located firstly within both the Urban Services Line, the USL, and the URL Urban Reserve Line, does not involve the subdivision of land and does not require any water service extension. The project also includes an on-site septic system which eliminates the need for waste water utility connection. And the site is served by Golden State Water Company that issued a will serve letter for both domestic and fire protection services. Therefore, we have sufficient evidence of services provided by Golden State Water as the subject matter expert on service system capacity and is required by total 19. Okay, so appeal issue two is related to a coastal zone land use ordinance section 2304430. 430 again related to availability Coastal Zone Land Use Ordnance Section 2304430. Again, related to availability of water supply and sewer disposal services. So this specific section gives priority to development within the URL and USL. And this project site is located within both. So this specific item is not applicable to this project. Okay, a Pillishy 3 will serve letters in the base and primarily. So I'm gonna do a little bit of a elaborated version just for purposes of addressing this once for this item. So the Pellant specifically express its concern that will serve letters do not indicate sustainability of a water basin. And again, we have to make those findings. Are you in the URL? URL? Is there sufficient will serves? This project is in the basin. The Lososos groundwater basin, which has a sustainable yield estimate, which is the maximum amount of water that can be extracted from the basin each year. The latest groundwater production estimate, which is 1650 acre feet, is 69% of the latest sustainable yield estimate, which was 2380 acre feet. A Sun's Ground Order production from the basin is less than the basin's sustainable yield. The county finds that the Lososos basin is not in overdraft. Nevertheless, this project is required to participate in the Title 19 Retrofit program to offset its water needs. Also, worth noting in June of 2023, the Lososos water offset study was conducted to evaluate the effectiveness of the Title 19 Retrofit to Build Program, which found that annual groundwater production by the Lososos water purveyors decreased by almost 50% from 2008 to 2022 due to these water conservation programs. The study estimated that 118 acre feet per year of remaining residential water savings potential could be used to offset water use for new development. The proposed project has an expected water demand of 150 gallons per day or approximately 0.17 acre feet per year. Therefore the study indicates that the basin has the capacity to support this type of single family residential development and its water offsets without significantly impacting the basin. Okay, so in summary, this project is conditioned, meets development standards is consistent with county code policies, including an analysis of the most recent 2024 Stereo area plan requirements and the Lososis community plan. That was a new attachment to your guys' board appeal items. And the project meets the county's goals of expanding housing throughout the county. And we believe that the appeal issues have been sufficiently addressed. Worth noting is that there was a corogen item with a proposed revised resolution. So basically we added a supplement to the findings, the environmental determination finding, we added a new finding B. And then we also made a minor edit to the preamble of the conditions of approval note, italic note. And this is basically just to make very clear that where there's the site specific mitigation measures. And then the Los Los Community Plan Requirements, the Los Los Community Plan Requirements shall prevail. Okay, so with that, staff is recommending the board adopt the mitigated negative declaration and adopt the revised resolution to deny the appeal and approve the variance minor use permit coastal development permit subject to the findings and conditions of approval. For the Mueller item, we do have the applicant present as well as their attorney and agent as well as Mr. McGinney. OK, thank you. Thank you for that. Any board questions or comments at this time? Seeing none, I am going to invite the appellant, Mr. McGinney, up. I think he starts first, correct? Appellant? Presentation? OK. Our representative. correct a pepellan presentation okay our representative Thank you. I mean, I have to point it right at the end. Okay. Thank you. All right. Today I will use data and reports from the Los Osos. Please introduce yourself so yourself. Oh, sorry. Thank you. You're right. Sorry. Lynette Brooks, representing Los Oso Sustainability Group. Today I will use data and reports. This doesn't seem right. From the Los Oso Space and Management Committee to demonstrate that the Los Oso Space Center is in critical overdraft because of increasing salt water intrusion. First, my background, 30 years with the US Geological Survey as a groundwater hydrologist, very first project was a model, very last project was a model, and several models in between that. I like groundwater models. They are useful tools for aggregating data and increasing understanding of a groundwater system. I also know they can have a large degree of uncertainty and should not be relied on of data contradicts model predictions. If the data contradicts the model, the model is wrong. I also think models need meticulous documentation if they are to be used to make decisions affecting public resources. The model being relied on to make long-term decisions for the Losos Basin is poorly documented. My presentation today will focus on everything the County Planning Department is ignoring in their decision that the Losos Basin is not in overdraft and that development should be allowed. At each appeal you will hear one or two topics. As we move through the appeals please remember that each of my prior presentations applied to each appeal. A reminder for all of you that the low-soso space and management committee was created as part of a stipulated judgment. It includes the water purveyors and the county and they are in charge of monitoring and managing groundwater in the basin. So you're going to hear a lot about the magic basin yelled metric, that's the one the county likes. Let me explain this metric. It is a calculated number based on a lot of assumptions, including unknown agricultural pumping, model estimates of recharge, and model uncertainty. Essentially, the basin yell metric is one estimated number divided by another estimated number. This is what the county planning department is using to say the basin is not in overdraft. And it's also very questionable of the basin yell metric calculated in 2023 represents long-term conditions because of the historic low estimated water use caused by historic high precipitation. The other metrics are based on film measurements of conditions on an annual or semi-annual basin. Because the Chlorimetric is the metric most directly related to measuring salt water intrusion, it is the only metric I will discuss today. The goals for the water level metric and night trait metric have also not been met. Just really fast on, I didn't bring up my point, I didn't bring up my point. Really fast on the historic low. I'll never mind. You can see it. The 20... really fast on the historic low. We have it. Did I have it work? Oh, never mind. You can see the 2023 really low water use. You know, the number 2000 is much more likely to be what we're going to have. And that is because of the conservation efforts of the citizens of Los Osos. They went nuts. And the historic high precipitation, twice the average two and a half times the median. That number cannot be relied on. And yet that is the year that the County Planning Department is using to decide that the base is sustainable. Overdraft, defined during the sigma process because it was because the saltwater intrusion the sigma process decided that Los OsoSos is in critical overdraft. They kept that decision during their revisions. The stipulated judgment by which Los OsoSos basin has to be managed, defines safe yield as a conclusion of law, undesirable result, such as sea water intrusion. The County Planning Department is defined both the California Department of Water Resources and the Superior Court of California by not using that definition of sustainable yield. The next pages use the chlorine metric to show that salt water intrusion in Loso-Sos basin is worse than in 2019 when sigma decided we were still in critical overdraft and that the basin isn't critical overdraft despite the basin yield-yel metric indicating a sustainable condition. All right, lots of lines on this graph. The graph shows the chloride concentration in each of the wells that make up the chloride metric. The red line that fluctuates so much is from LA-10, which for some reason is double counted in the metric, and it causes the erratic nature of the Chlorimetric. The Chlorimetric is the dash line. For comparison, the Basin-Yohmetric is that black line. Note that it has been below 80, a lot of times. Also note that the Chlorimetric has not decreased. An email from Nicole Ellis states that water level and chlorine metrics have been improving. I don't see any improvement in the chlorine metric, but let's look at the chloride data more closely. All of these graphs were created from data in the annual reports or from LOMC meetingsB.MC meetings. There's two lines because L.A.10 makes it really bouncy. The line from 2017, you can definitely see is, you know, the chloride metric is going up every year. The trend is statistically significant for the entire period of record. The county and Los Osos B.C have said that the chloride metric is not reliable because it includes well LA10. And yet they've known that for 10 years, they've never come up with a new metric. Looks like what happens without LA10. Okay, now we really see we have an increasing trend. It is hard to believe that Nicole Ellis and the planning department are saying that chloride metric is trending in the right direction. I actually went a lot faster than I thought, so thank you for your time. Well, turn over to Pat for the other three thought so. Thank you for your time. We'll turn over to Pat for the other three minutes here. Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's the way of of Los Osos. It also states that a supplemental water supply would be required for build out. There is no supplemental water supply or any other additional water available. The county's assertion that the Los Hoses water basin is now sustainable. After four decades of being in overdraft has no factual basis or data to support it. And is based solely on assumptions regarding the quantity of non-proveyor pumping currently occurring in the basin. The basin model precludes or predicts predictions. The basin model predictions are premised on estimated levels of pumping by non-pervier groundwater users because data of the actual pumping is not available. The model is operated by a steady state non--transient model. Accordingly, it is not used to depict changes in groundwater flow levels across time. That means the model assumes that a given set of conditions persists over time without changing. Then this obscures potential drought impacts and produces elevating seasonal basin management strategies. According to the stipulated judgment, and I quote, for purposes of adjudication of groundwater basin, safe yield is defined as the maximum quantity of water, which can be withdrawn annually from groundwater supply without causing undesirable results. When safe yield is exceeded by production, a basin is considered to be in a state of overdraft. Overdraft can result in a number of undesirable results, including decrease in water quality, loss of water storage capacity, and perhaps most damageingly in a coastal basin, sea water intrusion. That is end of the quote. I hope you take some time to really watch this PowerPoint that Ladnette has put together. It really does explain why our basin is still an overdraft that we do have sea water intrusion and that now is not the time to start building. Wait until we have a new transient model that comes into effect and see what the data then at that time shows. So we can continue on. You can approve this one if you wish. Thank you and we'll move on now to an applicant, Mr. Mueller or representative. Please, thank you. Good afternoon, Madam Chair, members of the Board. My name is April Wenecke, and I am the land use and planning consultant for the applicant, Denise Muller. I just wanted to take a few minutes and express our thanks to staff for us sharing us through the process. We fully support the staff analysis and recommendation for this project. The water supply issues raised in this appeal have been extensively studied and addressed both by the county and the California Coastal Commission in adoption of the local Coastal Program Amendment for the Los Osos Community Plan and HCP. And so with that, we just wanted to say thank you express our support again for the staff recommendation. Our applicant team is here. Should you have any questions for us? Thank you. Okay. Any questions? And now let's see. So I'm going to open public comment on this item. Seeing no public comment, we've had the representative and the appellant. I'm going to close public comment. And now, again, any further comment from the applicant? No? Further comments from the appellant? Ms. Gimney. Yes, without listening to the full PowerPoint presentation, you're going to be making recommendations or approvals with limited understanding of really what's going on with our basin. Just kind of shows that the county doesn't only care what's going on with Los Hills water basin. Okay, close the comments and now we'll come back to the board for comments and deliberation. Can I chair if I might? Yes, sir. Let me note that the full PowerPoint presentation was provided by email to the board. It is on the record. I have reviewed it. I would note that the material there has largely been, as the material, at the assumptions, the assertions and the conclusions contained there have been presented to the Losoço Space and Management Committee and their technical experts and the Basin Management Committee does not agree with the conclusions raised there. So that material is under active consideration. I thank Ms. Brooks for bringing this material forward. In any technical endeavor, critiques of the approach are the way in which the things move forward. And indeed, there is a more sophisticated modeling of the situation in the basin, probably to be completed this year. And we are always looking at the quality of the metrics that observations that we take to do it. I would note that the conclusions of the Basin Management Committee as to the adequacy of the Basin have been extensively reviewed by technical experts licensed in the state of California. The Coastal Commission has had its technical staff look at it and they too make the explicit conclusion that the Basin at this point is not in overdraft. They reflect that is reflected by the Coastal Commission's approval of the LCP amendments that we brought forth in June of last year that they confirmed in December and in their recommended action on a specific project that the Sustainability Group has appealed will be heard by the Coastal Commission tomorrow. So with that and considering the information that's been presented again throughout the entirety of that PowerPoint point, which I guess we're going to see more of as these series of appeals concur, I will move staff's recommendations, including the revised findings and conditions approval if I could under pre-discussion there. I would also note that this project is subject to the 2-to-1 Title 19 retrofit. So it will actually increase the margin by which the space unoperates. So is that a motion? I will second that motion and Supervisor Well said. I agree with your comments and I'm glad that or and would hope that all of those comments would be reflected on the record and included was in the context of the motion. That was the point. Thank you. All right. Roll call please. Supervisor Gibson. Yes. Supervisor Paul Dean. Yes. Supervisor Pashong by Patrick McGibney of the Los Los Sustainabilityability Group of the Planning Department here in Officers of Proofle of a request by Katie Lee for a minor use permit, coastal development permit to permit and regulate the as-built and as-use structure and uses established on a one-story mixed use, eating and drinking establishment for unit hotel motel and storage area located at 1 3 2 5 2nd Street in Los Soso. the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the city's budget for the budget for the city's budget for the budget for the city's budget for the budget for the city's budget for the budget for the city's budget for the budget for the county, and the item before the board for reconsideration is an appeal by Mr. McGibney on behalf of the Lososos Sustainability Group of a request by Katie Lee for a minor use permit and coastal development permit. The applicant requests approval of a minor use permit and coastal development permit to allow permitting and regulation of the as built and as used hotel slash motel with restaurant. The site contains an already established structure used for commercial purposes and no construction is proposed or necessary to allow entitlement of the use. The project was approved by the planning department hearing officer on June 21, 2024 and an appeal was subsequently filed by Mr. McGimmney of this Lososos sustainability group. Shown here are the vicinity and aerial maps. The site is located within the commercial retail and use category. It's located on second street in the community of Lososos, the site is within the coastal zone. The following site plan includes the configuration of the project site to reiterate no changes are proposed. Moving on to the appeal request. The appellant raises the following appeal issues stating that the project is incompatible with the local coastal program because the local coastal program requires a sustainable water supply with reference to public works policy one. And the project violates coastal zone land use ordinance Title 23. To address appeal issue one, excuse me, to address appeal issue one, the appellant expresses concern that the project violates the County local coastal program Public Works Policy 1. The site is located within the LoSOSO's Urban Reserve Line and the Urban Services Line does not involve the subdivision of land and does not require any water service extension. The LoSOSO's Community Services District provided a continued to serve letter for the project, the San Lois-Besbow County Department of Public Works, Wastewater Assessment District 1, also provided a continued serve letter. Additionally, the basin is non-nover draft. To address appeal issue two, the appellant expresses concern that the project violates the Coastal Zone Land Use Ordnance Title 23. The project does not involve any new development. Subsection 23-04-430A and B of the Coastal Zone Land Use Ordnance do not apply to this project and a continuation of service letter was provided by County Public Works. In summary, the project as condition meets all development standards is consistent with the county plans and policies. The project meets the county's goals of maintaining transient lodging uses within the coastal zone, and staff believes that the appeal issues have been adequately addressed. Therefore, staff recommends the Board of Supervisors adopt the notice of exemption and adopt the resolution to deny the appeal and approve the project subject of findings and conditions of approval. Thank you. Before we proceed any further, I was remiss in not asking for disclosure of exparte. Madam Chair, yes. I had a brief phone conversation with the applicant's agent yesterday discussing the various aspects of this project and the procedure by which it will be heard today. Okay, thank you, Supervisor Gibson. Supervisor Pauling? I had no ex part A. Supervisor Prashan? I also had no ex part A. And none. None, and none for myself either. Okay. Let's proceed now with the do you have questions? Yeah, I have one question. Yes, sir. Let me confirm Mr. Miller that the that the per the land use permit being considered here involves no change in use and thus no change in water consumption. Is that correct? The change would be in historical use. The building itself is not undergoing any changes. Okay, but did planning analyze the water use in the building? The water use was analyzed. It's described in the availability of water service, section of the staff report, public works, section of the staff report, and then additional growth management ordinance compliances included in the newly updated attachment. Yes. Miss Alvacipa? Yeah, so it's a historically been a commercial building and there's no change in intensity. No intensity of that. So there's no expected change in the water use. Correct. And it's pre-coastocked. This is simply a minor use permit, CDP2, entitled the pre-existing. Pre-existing, but possibly not. We originally didn't require minor use permits for hotels, and now we do. Thank you. Yep. Okay. Thank you. That's for you, and of your questions. Let's go to the appellant Mr. McGivney or representative. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. I'm going to go to the next slide. representing Los Ososos Sustainability Group. I want to thank Mr. Gibson for looking at my PowerPoint presentation that I sent. I'll be talking about some of those experts actually that he was talking about today. We seem to have a different take on what those experts are saying, however. This part of the presentation will focus on statements in the annual reports prepared for the Los Los Osospecies Management Committee, and problems with the ground water model being used to estimate sustainable yield. Remember that my previous presentation also applies to this appeal. The County and the Management Committee are currently funding a transient model. A transient model is where input and output varies through time. Hopefully monthly, I don't know that. But results of the model are not yet available. Any decisions to approve development in Los Osos should wait for that model. The next section we'll talk about statements from the annual report. The annual report, if I understand it correctly, is written by the consultant hired by the BMC to run the model to do a lot of the monitoring and to write this report. Please read, his statements in the report, see-order intrusion is a major concern for the lower aquifer and continues to advance under current basin conditions. Chloride concentrations of LA-40 increase between 2019 and 2021, and increase to the highest concentration so far in fall of 2023. at200mg per liter. The drinking water standard is 250mg per liter. Sea water intrusion into Zoni is a significant threat to basin sustainability and has been for decades. Continuing with the consultant. And zoni, seawater intrusion is interpreted to be laterally pervasive in the western area, and there's an increasing trend in chloride concentrations at LA-11, which indicates a worsening condition over time. Seawater intrusion in Zoni continued to move inland, through LA and LA 11 in 2023, despite a basin yelled metric of 69, which is significantly less than the goal of 80 or less. A basin yelled metric of 69 suggests the level of the Basin production in 2023 should be sustainable, yet zone E intrusion continues. These are statements from the Basin Management Committee's Ken Sultent and the guy running the model. As I've already said, if the data do not match the model, the model is wrong. Saltwater intrusion continues despite the low BIM. Maybe the model is wrong. This, the previous statements from the annual report admits that the consultant thinks there's a disconnect between reality and his model. This section discusses some possible problems with the model. The model uses optimized pumping. While he's simulating what he wants to be pumped, he pumps at the wells that are going to create the least saltwater intrusion. That isn't necessarily how the purveyors are actually pumping. Model calibration has not been documented since 2009 and was calibrated to water levels in 2000. 25 years of data is being ignored and we're assuming that his model is still accurate. Pumping scenarios for this sustainable yield are different than the calibration stresses and in that case you don't really know if the model parameters are right. I skipped something there. Back on that one about the optimization, it's more of a if we could do this than maybe salt water would stop. That is what he is using the model for. It's not what is really happening. One of his statements was, the volume of lower aquifer pumping from the Western area wells in Bay seems to be ignored in the model. The next slide will discuss this. The blue lines are water level contours provided by the consultant in the annual report. The red arrows were added by me to show flow direction. Flow direction is always perpendicular to the contours. This shows that most of the water in the lower aquifer is moving towards the pumping center in the middle of Los Osos. It also shows that water seems to be coming from Moral Bay in part of it and maybe two Moral Bay. What it does not show is a direct connection to the ocean. The saltwater intrusion in the lower aquifer could very well be coming from Marl Bay and as far as I can tell that is not included in the model. As I said the model isn't that well documented I could be wrong. All right more of these professionals that were here and that were hired by the purveyors and the county, states and engineers did a peer review. The main points of the with the model are the uncertainty in the sustainable yield needs to be determined and that a monthly transient model is needed. The annual reports never discussed uncertainty and a transient model is still not complete 15 years later. Note that Stetson engineers did not say that the plans to move the wells east would stop saltwater intrusion. They said it would mitigate the goal was to keep the wells out of the way. The goal wasn't to stop intrusion. Another professional review of the model was actually asked for, I don't know if it was commissioned, I wasn't here at the time, by Los Ososos Sustain ability group. It's important to note that the hydro focus author who wrote this report was Gus Yates. He was the USGS modeler in the original 1988 groundwater model of this area. He knows what he's talking about. He said, the one key takeaway, well one key takeaway from his review is that the measured salt waterfront advanced more than twice the distance and less than one sixth of the time that the model predicted. Intrusion was 12 times faster than the model predicted. As with the Stetson review, the lack of a transmission simulation and uncertainty in the estimate of sustainable yield are major concerns. The Lososo Space and Management Committee including the county have known for 15 years the uncertainty analysis and the transient model were needed. Uncertainty in the estimated sustainable yields are being included in every annual report but but has never been required. The transit model will be done sometime, wait to approve development until then and until uncertainty and the estimated sustainable yield is provided. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Minute 39.. I'd just like to use the last couple of minutes in stating that the county and the Coastal Commission are using the Sustainable Yeal and the Basin Yield metric as measurements of sustainability. Yet the Department of Water Resources who monitors and pretty much guards all the water basins in California for sustainability say that the deep, that groundwater, the safe yield and the, that neither of those are sustained, they're not measurements of sustainability nor proof of a basin sustainability when you're using the safe yield or the basin yield metric. Those do not show either one of those according to the Department of Water Resources yet that is what you are depending on to show that our basin is sustainable. You really need to revise what your definition of sustainability is. Thank you. Thank you. Is there Katie Lee or another representative for the applicant? Good morning. My name is Matt Davis, I'm the agent for the project and the next following two Don't have a lot to add has been a long journey to get to this point We knew we were going to be appealed from from the get go pretty much but fully think plenty staff's hard work and just the fact that going through the Minor use permit process kind of addresses all three facets of this appeal. And furthermore, there is no construction being proposed, and this building has been an existence for over seven decades as a historic part of Baywood using pretty much every commercial service you can think of under the sun. So I think it's long story history of being a part of the community in tandem with the permit process that has gone through Will serve letters and California Coast Commission's latest determination that we respectfully request your approval today. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Okay. I'm going to open public comment and see if there's any public comment on this item. I don't see any. I'm going to close public comment. And now back to the applicant. Do you have any further comments, or Mr. McGibney? Back to you. Remembering that the county helped write the Basin Plan. I'd like to make one quote here also. This is directly from the Basin Plan. While operating, while reporting of groundwater production by the purveyors is necessary, the Basin Management Committee and parties will face significant challenges to successful management of the Basin without the collection and use of data from non purveyors, meaning the farmers, ag lands, and that kind of thing. In particular, with over 40% of the basin production based on estimates, the Basin Management Committee and their actions to stop seawater intrusion, using Basin yield metric and other metrics will be limited because there is a substantial lag time between potential over extraction from the basin, as calculated through the basin yield metric and the chloride metric, any errors resulting from use of estimates rather than actual production figures will not be known for as long as 15 years, when it will be too late to correct. It is vitally important for the basin yield metric to be as accurate as possible in order to ensure the proper actions are being taken to stop sea water intrusion as early as possible and of quote. It's been 15 years and what has happened to our basin by allowing sea water intrusion to advance may be too late to fully correct, but it's not too late to take corrective actions. The Lososos water basin is not in a state of sustainability. Any additional use or intensification of use will accelerate the risk to the community and the health of the Moro Bay estuary. Unfortunately, even with water saving retrofits, rain water capture, and drought tolerant landscaping, new development means more water is used. And this is why we ask that these projects be denied. Thank you, Mr. McGibbeny. I'm gonna close and bring it back to the board. Madam Chair, if I might. Yes, sir. Thank you. I'm not gonna reiterate reiterate my comments made in the previous item, except to indicate that the technical information been presented to the Lososos Basin Management Committee and our technical experts does not change our conclusion that the Basin is not nor a graphic nor does it change the Coastal Commission's opinion on that. I will just simply note that the conversation about what type of modeling is being used right now is as I addressed earlier. Yes, we will have more sophisticated modeling available, hopefully sometime this year, and we will then base necessary management decisions on the results of that. I would though note for the record that in fact, the material presented by the appellant, both in the appeal and in the presentation today, is really not relevant to the decision before us because the project that's being appealed does not change water use in any way. And so the condition of the basin is really not relevant to our decision. With that, I'll move staff's recommendation to deny the appeal and to approve the project with the revised conditions of approval, which was the addition of indemnification. Second. We have a motion and a second. Roll call please. Supervisor Gibson. Yes. Supervisor Marino. Yes ma'am. Supervisor Pashong? Yes. Supervisor Paul D? Yes. And Chairperson on Teeth Lake? Yes. Okay thank you. On that one and we'll move to the third appeal please. Item number 29, a hearing to consider an appeal by Patrick McIbney of the Losososustainability Group of the Planning Department hearing officers approval of a request for a minor use permit, coastal development permit, permit and regulate the as-built as-use structure and use is established on two story. On a two story, three unit hotel motel with laundry facilities, decking outdoor stairs, and five required parking spaces. The project is located at 1-3-1-5 Second Street in Los Osos. Okay, thank you. Do we have any expertise to report? Supervisor Prishon. None. Supervisor Marano. Supervisor Paul Ding. None. Supervisor Gibson. In the brief phone conversation, I reported in the previous item we also discussed this Item as to the issues at appeal and the procedure by which it would be heard Okay, the applicants agent. Thank you, and I have none. Let's proceed Thank you, Madame Clerk and Good afternoon again chairperson or tea's leg members of the board My name is Dan Mueller a planner with the county and item before the board is for reconsideration is another appeal by Mr. McGimmney on behalf of the LoSoso Sustainability Group of request by Katie Lee for a mining use permit and coastal development permit. The applicant requests approval of a MUP and CDP to allow permitting and regulation of the as-built and as-used hotel slash motel. The site contains an already established structure used for commercial purposes. No construction is proposed or necessary to allow entitlement of the use. This project was approved by the Planning Department Hearing Officer on June 21, 2024, and an appeal was subsequently filed by Mr. McGimmity of the Lososos Sustainability Group. Shown here are the vicinity of the aerial, shown here are the vicinity and aerial maps. The site is located with the commercial retail land use category, is located on second street in the community of Lososos, and the site is within the coastal zone. This slide includes the configuration of the project site. Again, no changes are proposed. Moving on to the appeal requests. The appellant raises the following appeal issues stating that the project is incompat The plan is to address the public. The plan is to address the public. The plan is to address the public. The plan is that the project violates county's local coastal program public works policy one. The site is located within the Losososos urban reserve line and the urban services line does not involve subdivision of land does not require any service extension. The Lososos community services district can provide it continue continued to serve letter for the project. The San Luis Spisbo County Department of Public Works wastewater assessment district one also provided a continued to serve letter. Additionally, the basin is not an overdraft. To address appeal issue two, the appellant expresses concern that the project violates the coastal zone land use ordinance title 23. The project does not involve any new development. Subsections 23, 04, 430A and B of the coastal zone land use ordinance do not apply to this project and a continuation of service letter was provided by Public Works. In summary, the project as condition meets all development standards is consistent with county plans and policies. The project meets the county's goals of maintaining transient lodging uses within the coastal zone. And staff believes the official appeal issues have been adequately addressed. The board of supervisors adopt the notice of exemption and adopt the resolution to deny the appeal and approve the project subject to finding and conditioning of approval. That is the conclusion of staff's presentation. Again, the applicants agent Matt Davis is here. So is the appellant party and we are all available to respond to questions that the Board may have. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Board questions or comments? Yes, Madam Chair. I had reviewed the staff report and didn't see it there, but similar same question exactly to your Did I ask last time? The nature of the permit in front of us does not change the water use on this particular parcels, that correct? That is correct. The same commercial use is maintaining. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We'll let the appellant come Sustainability Group. The previous slide. Thank you. The previous slide pointed out differences between the model and real data. As I said at the beginning of this, as a 30-year-old groundwater modeler, if the data and the model don't match, the model is wrong. You don't ignore the data. You fix the model. Intrusion is continuing despite pumping being only 69% of the estimated sustainable yield. And the simulated front moves a lot slower than the real measured front. This presentation will focus on how under the direction of the water purveyors and the county, the model has never been used to estimate pumping that would stop saltwater intrusion. This figure from the Basin Plan shows the historic progression of saltwater intrusion. Reading the plan on page 108 and actually also on page 1 that says the goal is to halt or even reverse saltwater intrusion into the basin, the citizens of Los Osos went nuts on conservation. They replaced their fixtures, they tore out their yards, they put in drip irrigation system. Many of my friends spend a lot of money, and it worked. The water use dropped. Unfortunately, this part about stopping salt water intrusion has never been implemented. The model has never been used to stop saltwater intrusion. From the very beginning, it was used to determine where to move wells to keep them producing acceptable water. Or to move them up into the upper aquifer if they ever get enough nitrate out of the upper aquifer. The model simulates sustainable yield every year and the maximum sustainable yield at some future time and the county has been using that term today, maximum sustainable yield by optimizing the pumping at select wells. The citizens of Osos were comforted by plans to stop intrusion, even when they had to pay more to move the wells and to build more pipelines. This is a figure from a memorandum provided by Cleatharris geologist about what the model was asked to do. This's from the 2009 memo. Shows the intrusion allowed under maximum, sustainable yield. Saltwater intrusion would be allowed back to South Bay Boulevard. Not where it was in 2015. The water purveyors in the county knew that the plants to move the wells would not stop saltwater intrusion and yet they continued to implement those plans instead of actually figuring out how to stop saltwater intrusion. violated the basein Plan and the stipulated judgment. As I said, the maximum sustainable yield, those are those lines. A recent email from Nicole Ellis seems to be unaware of this because she says the current sustainable yield is substantially below the maximum sustainable yield and provides further opportunity for basin plan projects. Remember, the maximum sustainable yield allows saltwater intrusion to South Bay Boulevard. quotes from the consultant for the L.O.B.M.C. about this analysis of maximum sustainable yield. These are hypothetical examples chosen by Cleothaer's geologist in order to test the base in yield. They said he is optimizing, he is figuring out where to put these wells. They do not necessarily represent pumping patterns that are planned or agreed upon by the water purveyors. If you're to read more of that report, he would go on to say, you know, where you can put a well, of course, is going to depend on if you own the land there, etc. His model didn't account for any of that. It just said, if we can put a well here, this might work. Again, it might work, but it would move the intrusion all the way back. It would sacrifice almost all of the aquifer. Balancing the basin requires significant redistribution of pumping between the upper and lower aquifers. The yield value should be interpreted accordingly. I previously give a quote where he said, that hasn't happened. His model says it's in the upper aquifer. In reality, the pumping is still in the lower aquifer. I didn't include the quote from the Hydrofocus Review, but they had very serious concerns about what would happen with increased pumping from the upper aquifer, and if you would disinduced salt water intrusion into the upper aquifer that has never been tested, so we do not know. Okay. Then, in 2021, the L.O.B.M. staff proposed an alternative approach, which will not allow seawater than seawater to intrude further than has been observed to date. So we've now gone from 2015 to 2021. This is where this is a sustainable yield to be calculated to not let it go any farther. There's a figure on the next slide that shows now what they are planning on doing. So they're taking the very far this point and drawing a line parallel to the ocean, not parallel to Marl Bay bay as I've already discussed, which is much more likely. But even so, this would still give up much more of the aquifer to saltwater intrusion. You know, most of baywood, all of that area down there, oh that's okay now, we can let saltwater intrude down there. All the way up to the library, basically, if you guys know where that is. So much more salt water intrusion. So still not stopping salt water intrusion as required by the basin plan, as required by the stipulated judgment. Because they are not stopping salt water intrusion, intrusion, it still qualifies as being in critical overdraft as defined by the California Department of Water Resources. This didn't work out real well, but I kind of tried to compare the two figures to show, you know, 2014, we'll say that was 2015. The figure on the left, let's say that that farthest inland blue line is where the basin plan said we were going to stop intrusion. Compare that to now where they say they are going to stop intrusion. was half of the lower aquifer is being sacrificed under a new definition of sustainable yield. So I am presenting a lot of information about why the model calculated sustainable yield has problems and that it has never really been about stopping saltwater intrusion. Number one, the model is out of date. It has never been calibrated to transient conditions. It is simulating hope for pumping, or a hypothetical scenario in the words of their consultant. It's not representing actual pumping. From the Hydrofocus Review, the model is severely underestimating saltwater intrusion. As we know it is, as the Cleath Harris geologist quotes that I gave in the last presentation proved, his model is not matching data and he knows it. Uncertainty in the model estimate of sustainable yield has never been quantified. Despite all of these issues with a very questionable sustainable yield it is the only thing that the county planning department is using to determine the basin is not in overdraft. They are ignoring other consultants. They are ignoring the data being collected by the Basin Management Committee. Thank you for your time. Thank you. In the last 32 seconds, the reason these last two appeals with KDLE are in place is because the water use for the last 10 years has been illegal. So that is why we're appealing these. It's contributed to the overdraft of our basin and will continue to contribute to that if you approve this. Thank you. Let's go to the applicant or the representative. Please. Hello again. This building has been in existence for over five decades, just like the other one was seven decades. It's not an illegal, you circumsumption of water. It's been around for a very long time. Again, I agree with staff support and their hard work in getting us to this point and disagree with the appeal on the matter of water, absolutely. Ability has been existence for this long. Should have the ability to change the land use and it's a commercial building. They are there to be used for many different points. Again, I respectfully request your approval and thank you for your time today. Thank you, sir. Okay. Back to open public comment. I'm seeing none. Closing public comment. applicant has said all the T wants to say it looks like so we'll move on back to the appellant five minutes. Yes, the buildings have been there for 50 years. I used to work at the restaurant up above 50 years ago, which was a great place. Before that we had That's the building they're talking about now. The four of them that you have just approved used to be a canoe rental, a plumber, all businesses for the community. These are not based for the community. These are based for just more influx of tours coming in, which is fine, but it is more water use. Mr. Gibson likes to say that our basin is not in overdraft. Well, that's contrary to what the Department of Resources says in the last annual Basin Report and in the last Basin Report, January 15, 2025, they said our basin is still in critical overdraft. That's why we are appealing these. The basin is in overdraft regardless of what you're being told. And the data shows that and the department resources is telling us that. So any of these improvements or any of these approvals of these permits are just going to create more overdraft in the basin. It's already there. We're having problems and we don't have any other water supply to support us. We're not going to get any kind of piping coming in from state water. That's out the window for a long time. We don't have any supplemental water, which is required according to the basin plan for any further building. But yet you're building without any more supplemental water and supplemental water is not considered outside water. It's considered water that is already within the basin such as rain capture or using a great water systems, anything like that. That is supplemental water. We don't have that. So approving these things without any water for the community, you're really putting our community at risk. Thank you. Thank you. Close and go back to the board. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll lead with the fact that again, the material presented by the appellant in both these appeal letter and the presentation today really is not at all relevant to the decision before us as this permit does not change the water use on that site. Following on though, I'll reiterate my comments of briefly of previous items that the material presented in the totality of this staff report. Much of it has been exposed to the Basin Management Committee which does not change its conclusion that the basin is not an overdraft, a conclusion that is supported by the Coastal Commission as well. And thus I will move that we uphold staff's recommendations to deny this appeal and approve this project with the revised conditions of approval that include indemnity. Second. Okay, we have a motion in a second. Can we have a roll call please? Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Supervisor Paul Dean? Yes. Supervisor Pashong? Yes. Supervisor Marano? Yes ma'am. And Chairperson or Tees Lake? Yes. Okay, thank you. And now to our fourth item. Clerk, please introduce the item. Item number 30, a hearing to consider an appeal by Patrick McIvney of the Losos' Sustainability Group of the Planning Department hearing officers approval of the requests for a minor use permit, coastal development permit, to allow for the construction of a single family residence with an attached garage, storage space, art studio, and associated site improvements located at 2,00 Madera Street in Lososos. Thank you, please. Any exparte board members? Through disclos. Same short phone call I had with the applicants agent regarding the overall issues at play in this project and the procedure by which you would heard that was held yesterday. Thank you. Supervisor Pashong. None. Supervisor Morano. None. Supervisor Paul Dignan and none for myself. Let's start with the presentation please. Thank you. Okay. Good afternoon everybody The last appeal item here is a request An appeal request on behalf of Mr. McGibney of The request by Mr. Peerwall for a minor use permit, Coastal Development Permit. The request is to allow for the construction of a single family residence approved by Planning Department Hearing Officer on November 1st, 2024. Okay, and this site is in the Cabrillo Estate's neighborhood as well, is the first item, the Mueller application. Okay, so here you'll find the subject site located at the end of Madera Street on a vacant parcel. Again in the residential single-family land use category. Okay, here's the site plan showing the proposed residents with attached Tuck Under Garage. Okay, so this one, this appeal request included a few new items requiring staff address, including a hand of the reintroduction, reintroduction of Condition 6 of the Coastal Commission issued CDP for the wastewater treatment facility, as well as impacts to Esha SRA drainage sedimentation and seeking an EIRB requested. The other four items are as previously analyzed for other appeals. Okay, so we'll just kind of go through these more briefly for pure wall, but this local coastal public works policy one Again is not relevant to this specific project the site is not located between a URL usl. It's within both Serve by golden state water on site septic again basin not in overdraft The project will violate condition six of the Coastal Commission issued CDP related to the wastewater treatment plant for Los Osos. This site is not served by the Los Osos community sewer sewer. It would be served by an onsite septic system. And additionally, this is, it's not relevant to this project, but also the LHDP and Los Losers Community Plan were also adopted and certified. And so this is no longer applicable or relevant. We have Coastal Zone and use ordinance. Again, this is availability of service capacity. Project site is within both URL and usl, served by on site sceptic and go in the state water. Okay, the basin. I'll keep that pretty brief, but as echoed here today, the basin is not in overdraft based on most updated available science served by onsite septic. Okay. Okay, will serve letters. They have a Golden State Water Company Will serve letter. The project is required to offset two to one for a neutral positive effect on the basin. Okay. And then to address the Esha SRA, so Esha's environmentally sensitive habitat area, SRA's sensitive resource area, and that an EIR should be prepared. The site specific M&D was prepared for this project with no significant effects identified. There's sufficient mitigation measures to address S. Um, uh, therefore an EAR is not necessary. Um, the project also contains necessary findings for Esha and SRA, um, and remains sufficiently conditioned. Okay, so along with this project, uh, meets and exceeds all standards consistent with county efforts to increase housing stock, consists of county plans policies, sufficiently conditioned and meets necessary findings for Esha and SRA. Project has undergone sufficient environmental review, consisting of an M&D, and staff finds appeal issues have been addressed. And we recommend the board adopt the site specific mitigated negative declaration and adopt the resolution to deny the appeal and approve them up CDP, subject to findings and conditions. Okay, and again, we have the agent here as well for this item and appellant party. All righty. Thank you. Board questions or comments? Madam Chair, just one question for staff. Yes. In looking at your presentation in the staff report, do I understand you are not recommending any revisions to findings or conditions of approval? No new ones for this one other than what was already outlined and disclosed in the board staff report. In the staff report. In the original resolution. Correct. Includes indemnification. Indemification. Very good. Thank you. Okay. Please let's have the L.O.B.M.C. by the county, by the consultant, but that really matter. And this is that all water produced by the wells in Los Osos, by that basin, reduce flow to moral bae estuary, Los Osos Creek or Warden Creek or the ocean. The water stops flowing to all of those places and flows to wells. Reduction in the flow to the creeks in the estuary is never addressed by the model, by the Los Oso Space and Management Committee or the county. Technically part of it probably is in the model, but that doesn't get documented. I mean, it should be included there somehow. I previously sent you a long letter that detailed this whole source of water to wells gave you all the references that was USGS hydrologists in 1940 who wrote this. All water discharged by wells is balanced by a loss of water somewhere. First of all, you pull it out of storage. That's what a drawdown cone is. That's what that whole circle on those hydrographs or that contour map is. That water has been drawn out of storage. What I didn't show on those is that water levels in that circle are 15 to 20 feet below sea level. Obviously salt water can easily intrude into those areas. After sufficient time, has he lapsed? It's a drawdown cone. After that has he lapsed, it goes out and it reaches a place where water used to discharge such as a creek, an ocean, or an estuary. Moving the wells east may slow down saltwater intrusion, although as those maps showed, it just moves it back farther east, actually. But what was not addressed is that moving those wells east will increase the risk to Moro Bay National Estuary by reducing fresh water inflow from groundwater, Los Osos Creek and Warden Creek. Those wells will be closer to those creeks, closer to the estuary, and that's where their water will come from. Right now, only about a quarter? Well, maybe not even that. Let me restart that. We pump about 2,000 acre feet a year out of Los Osos. If we assume the agricultural demand is anywhere near accurate. 448 acre feet per year are put into the Broaderson recharge field and some small amount into another recharge field. However, they keep talking about that being only half developed and that the sustainable yield is only using that as half developed. That's the wording. I have taken that to mean that in the model, they are assuming only 224 acre feet are actually recharging the system. Again, I could have that wrong, but hasn't really been explained. But even if we went with the 448, about one quarter of the water being pumped recharges the aquifer now. It used to be a whole bunch of septic tanks recharged the aquifer. You will hear that we have increased recharge at Broaderson. No, we decreased recharge. We needed the wastewater treatment plant. We couldn't keep putting nitrate in, but it decreased recharge to the basin. Oh, I forgot I had put this mapping again. The dry down cone around all of those. And yeah, I think the littlest line there in the middle, that little circle is negative 15 feet. Again, this water used to recharge and flow out to the bay, it is now flowing to our wells. It has impacted the bay. If there is not enough water moving out to the bay or to the ocean, that's when the salt water intrudes. You have to keep water moving out. Lose those those basin does not have water moving out except maybe a little bit over in the western edge. Some statements from the basin plan how it relates to sigma and stipulated judgment. page 5 of the Basin Plan how it relates to Sigma and the stipulated judgment. Page 5 of the Basin Plan says that the parties intend their efforts to be fully compliant with the substantive requirements of Sigma. As Pat has explained as I mentioned before, Sigma defines sustainable yield as the maximum quantity of water that can be withdrawn without causing undesirable results such as sea water intrusion Depletions of interconnected surface water that have a significant and unreasonable adverse impacts on the beneficial uses of surface water in our case the Beneficial use of a lot of that water, either groundwater or surface water, is the Marrow Bay National Estuary. There have been studies on that and you know, it needs fresh water inflow to function the way it functions, to have the ill grass that has growing, which supports all the wildlife it has. We all love going out and seeing the otters. So the estuary is critically important. It is not getting discussed in these plans. The stipulated judgment in part of a paragraph, or paragraphs that they call conclusion of law, says that the maximum quantity of water, which can be withdrawn annually from or defines safe yield as the maximum quantity of water which can be withdrawn annually from groundwater basin without causing an undesirable result such as sea water intrusion. As with the promise to stop saltwater intrusion the promise to be fully compliant with sigma in the basin plan also not seems to not have not been fulfilled. Conclusions and all of my presentations today, first I show that the chlorine metric is higher than it has ever been and shows a strong upward trend. This indicates worsening salt water intrusion, not trending in the right direction. I have listed statements from the latest Los-Osso Space and Management Committee from the Management Committee's consultant. The saltwater intrusion is worsening despite the low basin yelled metric. He knows the model is not representing reality. He puts that in the report. I've described several possible reasons why the model is not accurately predicting sustainable yield. It may not have the right parameters, it hasn't been calib- I've described several possible reasons why the model is not accurately predicting sustainable yield. It may not have the right parameters, it hasn't been calibrated in a long time, is facing conditions now that it was never used to simulate. It was always simulating intrusion, farther intrusion, not stopping intrusion. Current groundwater pumping in the Los Ososos basin is not sustainable. By approving things and by the county insisting that it is sustainable. And that is in defiance of the California Department of Water and the Superior Court of California, which have both declared that it is not sustainable, that it is in overdraft. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay, minute and 32, Mr. McGibney. Thank you Lynette. There's not a whole lot more to say. The only way that you can rationalize approving any of these projects is by saying that our baseness still is sustainable at this point and that we're not in overdraft or half-sea water intrusion. All the metrics, all the information, the data that is actually out there shows that we do have seawater intrusion. Our chloride levels are climbing. Therefore by definition, we are not sustainable. So in concluding all of this, you've gotten a lot of information. You can either act on it and deny these projects and approve the appeals, or you can move ahead and put our community at risk of losing a water supply that is dependent upon for the livelihood. Thank you. Thank you. Representative from the applicant, please.. Hello once again. I too don't have much to add. I'd like to point out that the project has already acquired the title 19 retro phase certificate. So they've performed the work and done the water offset already. And that again we appreciate planning staff's hard work. They have done an immense amount to get us here and really appreciate your time. And again respectfully request your approval. Thank you. Thank you sir. Okay I'm an open public comment and then close public comment and go back to the applicant to just sit down and then come back to the appellant. I'm just wondering can I get my first presentation back? I kind of heard through the whole thing. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm a little confused. Are you trying to go back to the first hearing? Because that hearing is closed. All right. Well, can I talk about it without going back to it? Councillor, I think she just wants to present in this hearing material that she showed in the first. Okay. I just wanted to make clear we're in the right hearing. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. thank you. Thank I said before, the basin yield metric of 69 was based on a very strange year. The water use was much lower than it had been before that. You know, basically, let's say since all of the conservation efforts went in, we're going to average about 2,000 acre feet a year. Right? It's hard to believe that we suddenly dropped other than that really wet year. I'm assuming a lot of that was the ag use that dropped. But you know, people like me, we turned off our little drip systems when it was raining all the time. So we use less water. I just wanted to highlight that again. That is not a dependable number. Looking at the historic use, 2000 is going to be a much higher number. The water that we got in 2023, historically high, we all know that. We had flooding issues. We had everything. That is also not dependable. A much more dependable number is somewhere around 13.8, which is not the model for the number it uses, the number the model number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of the number of that was a Patrick's metric or pointer, so I don't have it now. The jump up and those last and the basing yield metric, the black line, thank you, was when they came up with a new definition of sustainable yield. And so it jumped up. That is still the current number they're using, 2380. During those years, we also were pumping about 2,000 acre feet. That's pretty predictable, meaning that this year, we're probably back down to or back up to a base in electric of about 84 which is higher than the 80 that is supposed to be sustainable. I think that was about it. Thank you very much for letting me elaborate on those. Thank you. All right so that's closing statement there that's the last closed statement so board comments and deliberations and supervise our Gibson. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So that's closing statement there. That's the last closed statement. So board comments and deliberations. Supervisor Gibson. Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll reiterate my comments that the totality of this presentation that was presented by email and is on the record concludes a series of assumptions, assertions and conclusions with which I don't agree and the Basin Management Committee does not agree. They certainly don't change our conclusion that the Basin is not in overdraft. It does not change the conclusion that I know of the Coastal Commission that the Basin is not in overdraft. I would make note just a little bit on the closing presentation for this specific item that concluded considerable amount of speculation as to the impacts of withdrawing water from the, from, through wells, but it did not include an accurate or much less complete analysis of the impacts of the Lososo sewer system, which keeps all the effluent that is created in the basin for the beneficial use of users and of the basin. In sort of similarly that the comments made regarding the trends of the chloride metric have ignored the projections of what the chloride metric was supposed to do. And once the Los Osos wastewater system got put into place, which was to show some amount of continued increase and then a pronounced decrease. And we don't have definitive information that we are operating in a regime contrary to that right now. So again, I finished my analysis of this particular project, which does propose a new single family residence by noting it is conditioned to abide by Title 19. And the result of that is going to be that water extracted from the basin will actually be decreased because it is a 2 to 1 offset. With that then I will move staff's recommendations regarding approval of this project based on findings and conditions and the approval of the mitigated negative declaration and the denial of the appeal. I'll second that and I just you know looking at the reduction of water through the time period on this last presentation I think that we know that the title 19 has been successful and you know as we've noted before that many of us who live in older homes who haven't had a title 19 retrofit, probably are using more water than the new homes that are coming in. So there's things. I appreciate the fact that people are very concerned about the basin and we all need to be very mindful of of our water consumption and ensuring that we do the measures that are required from us by the state and also out of good governance and sustainability. But I do believe that your Basin Management Committee is really looking at that and many people live in the Basin there, so they want to make sure it's safe. Madam Chair, if I might, just for the records since you brought it up, I would note that there was a technical study of the Title 19 Retrofit to Bill Program that confirmed that it was saving more than the amount of water that new construction would use. Thank you. OK, any further comments? If not, we'll take a roll call, please. Supervisor Gibson? Yes. Superperson Ortiz Leg. Yes. Supervisor Pashong? Yes. Supervisor Paul Dean? Yes. Supervisor Marano? Yes ma'am. Okay. Okay. We are going to... I'm gonna do a little bit of change up here. We're gonna get ready to go into closed session. Before we do that, I just want to move the last item that we have which is board member comments now and that allows the other staff to move on and do their other things. And so if any board members have comments, requests, etc. Let's have that now and then we'll do our close session. Supervisor Pichon. I'd just like to thank the administration staff for bringing the county flag in. Great job. Thank you. Yes. Well noted that we have our county flag now and thanks to administrative staff and the direction to do that looks really good. Supervisor Paul Ding. Thank you. I just want to make an announcement on Wednesday night at the Oceano Community Center. I'll be having a district four town hall, and that's from six, excuse me, five to seven PM, and everybody's welcome to come and get some updates on what's going on in district four and so counting wide, so hope folks can attend. Thank you. Thank you. Any further board comments? If not, I'll close that item and I'll go to our closed session. And Ms. Neal, for the final time, please let us know what we got going here. Yes, Rita Neal, your county council, the board is going into closed session on items four through 14. We should take about a half an hour. Okay, thank you. And I'd like to have public comment please Mr. Brunel I'm opening public comment. It's your time sir to come forward. I apologize for the confusion over when to speak, but I don't do every day. Am I hearing it's not real good. My primary reason for being here is just to answer any questions you may have on my recent submittal to the board. In addition to that, I got to thinking about clover rage. And for the past 20, 30 years, there's been a little to no maintenance on the southern end of Cloverage. So it has deteriorated over time. And it seems to me, the county might want to consider using the county road maintenance budget to repair it and to do the minor widening that needs to be done with the trail added with the county maintenance budget rather than the Bob Jones trail budget. Because I know the body turns 12 by so it is slim and potentially has problems. I don't think so. And thank you for waiting around and we will now adjourn to close session. We'll be back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Ready. Okay. Ready. Okay. Okay. We're going to reconvene the meeting. Council, could you please report on the closed session? Yes, and for the last time. For you to Neil County Council, your board met in closed session and there is no reportable action. Thank you. No, nothing reportable. Okay. Happy retirement, Rita. This meeting is a gen. It is closed. Thank you.