Okay. All right. It's called this meeting to order the Sacramento City Council. Please call the roll. Thank you, Mayor. Council member Kaplan. Here. Council member Dickinson. Here. Vice-Morthera Talamantes. Here. Council member Plekibaum. Here. Council member Maple. Here. Our Pro Temgata. Here. Council member Jennings. Here. Council member Bain. Here. Amir McCarty. Here. You have a quorum. Thank you. Councilmember Maple, can you please lead us in the land, acknowledgement and the pledge? Please sign. Can you see my name? Please rise if you are able. Please rise for the opening acknowledgements and honor of Sacramento's Indigenous people and tribal lands. She's the original people of this land, the Nisanan people, the southern mind you. The alien planes me up, the Nisanan people, the southern Maidu, the Allian Plains, Miwap, Puton and two peoples and the people of the Wilton Rancheria, Sacramento's only federally recognized tribe. May we acknowledge and honor the native people who came before us and still walk beside us today on these ancestral lands by choosing to gather today an active practice of acknowledgement and appreciation for Sacramento's indigenous peoples history, contributions and lives. Remain standing, salute and pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, and a visible liberty and justice for all. Okay. So Mayor, we did not have a closed session prior to this meeting, so I'd safe to assume that we do not have a city attorney's report out. Correct. Yes. The bank consent calendar. I have five speakers for public comment on the consent calendar. Do council members have any questions or comments on the items? Council member Vang. I like to make a comment on item 12. Council member Kaplan. Questions on item 4, comment on 6 and 14. Member Dickinson. Comments on number 11. Seeing no more punched up. Let's start with Council Member Kaplan. You want to do 4, 6 and then 14? Thank you. Thank you. Item 4. Just a couple of questions. This is regarding community facility districts and our special tax administration. Is there anybody here that could possibly answer a question or two? Hi Brian. You know, Natoomis has a lot of CFDs. I have gotten a question or two that I just want to highlight right now about confusions between a CFD and an EIFD. Is a couple EIFIDs are coming in front of Council? Can you just briefly say why these are different or can they be both done at the same time and what is the difference? Sure. Let me thank you for the question, council number. So we start with kind of CFD and then then shift over to kind of the difference between EIFD. So CFD is community facilities district is formed under the Melaroo Act of 1982. We have a number of different CFDs in the city. They have been formed for a couple of different purposes. One is services and maintenance, so things like park maintenance. So those services are intended to not supplant, but they're too additive to the services that the city already provides. So the other CFDs that have been formed include capital, capital nature, capital improvements, things like we work with the city with developers. So Green Barred, Delta Shore's others, the developers construct their improvements and the city forms the CFD as a way to form the a mechanism to issue bonds. And the bonds are then used to reimburse or acquire their improvements for the public benefit for either that area or kind of that portion of the city. And that can be for like infrastructure sewer water. Absolutely. So, whatever the eligible improvements are that are kind of specified in the formation documents, so it could be white ranging water, wastewater, could be road improvements. It could be a whole white range of things. And one of the distinctions of a CFD versus EIFD is a CFD is a special tax. So it's the imposition of a tax that's paid by propagators within that CFD. So if a CFD has 100 task wall parcels, there's a configuration of formula, a methodology by which the task is imposed and levied. And so it's distinction because a CFD is considered a legal separate entity. So it's separate and apart from the city. While the city issues the bonds and issues and managers of the debt, the debt that's incurred by the CFD is not on the city's books. Now let's kind of pivot over to EIFD. EIFD is an enhanced infrastructure financing district. And essentially over the last 10, 12 years post dissolution with in January of 2012 with ABX 126 and most recently with assembly bill of 1484, there have been different redevelopment tools that have taken place. And one of them is the enhanced structured financing district. And essentially what it allows is completely different than a CFD. It allows for the growth in the base revenue. So if an EISD is formed in a part of a city, we create what's known as the base year, the base taxation. And so the incremental revenue that's, the tax revenue that's generated in year one, year five, year 10, that could be used to fund different things like capital improvements. And one of the distinctions there is it's not a new tax. It's already part of the property owners tax. It's essentially taking a portion of the assessed revenue that would otherwise go to the city and general fund and reallocating it towards that part of the city for what it ever dedicated services or improvements that are envisioned. So is once new Once a new an additive to propioners in that area one is Existing just by way of virtue of propioners paying their tax bill the growth and assessed revenue is Essentially kind of the mechanism by which either pay go or A means to issue bonds and be able to bond against that revenue stream. Thank you and I know that's a lot but considering this council is going to be looking at EFIDs and questions kind of come up that could be confusing but you could have an EFID and a CFD on one parcel and piece of property. Absolutely. So for example, you know the consideration for rail yard CFD, right? So the CFD was formed a number of years ago. In 2022, we issued bonds work. And a couple years ago, the city, we formed what is known as previously known as the rail yard's stadium AFD. And right now, there are efforts to amend the of the Rilliards Stadium EFD to be kind of coterminous with the CFD. So to your point, Councillor Berville, yes. The CFD can be stacked on top of one another. And I just want to thank you because sometimes finances, you know, that's not my Bailey Wick, but I think sometimes we need to discuss it out in the open because there are questions and concerns. so I just wanted to use this as an instance that there is nobody better than Brian who can answer our questions if anything comes up in that. But I am good with the item 4. I just wanted to use this as an opportunity to clarify a couple of things. So thank you, Brian. On item 6, I just want to highlight and, thank the City of Sacramento for partnering with their start program with the Robeless School District. We are going to be providing before and after school services to a total of 1,000 kids. Over 90% of the Robeless School District is free and reduced, and this is truly an area where we can help provide enrichment for our students most in needs where they can succeed in life. And then on item 14, I just want to highlight because if you look at this, this is our 2025 annual weed and rubbish abatement notification just to remind council members, you know, I found out I have 738 parcels that need to do weed abatement and cut their grass that this is just the notice. But the fines will come back in a couple of weeks. So now owners have a couple of weeks to do this before they will be fined. So council members, if you've got anybody that needs to make sure we reduce our fire hazard. This is really about reducing fire hazard that they can do so in the next couple of weeks without being fined. That's it. Thank you, Councillor McKinston. I'm loving. Thanks, Mountford. I will add a ditto on the comments on item 6 by Councillor We're very pleased to have start and the Roeville School District. For all the reasons she mentioned, I wanted to take a moment to underscore the action that anticipate we'll take with respect to item 11, which is the D2 Thrive's initiative. And this really is something that I think the entire council should take pride in and recognize it is the next step following the adoption of the Forward Together Action Plan from last April that the council approved and it is a strategic roadmap really designed to revitalize the Mary's bill and Delpassable of our commercial corridors. There are a number of noteworthy benefits that will come as we vote today to award $330,000 to a variety of community partners for specific activities to implement the plan. And it represents really the next step, not the ultimate step but the next step in our efforts to bring back North Sacramento, bring back these corridors in particular. So some of the benefits include economic revitalization, enhanced community, wellbeing, prevention of displacement, increased community engagement, long-term investment, improved infrastructure, increased local business support among others. And so I am delighted to be here to be part of this today. But I wanna also make sure I share thanks because there's lots of moms and dads for this effort. And a number of them are out here in the audience, but I wanna recognize the neighborhood development action team and Mikkel who is taking care of a new baby somewhere. Oh, well, maybe on relief from the baby duty for the moment. And Denise Mavetti, who I think I thought I saw out there. Yes, there she is. On a number of other city staff, I see Leslie Fritchie and I know there are a number of you out there and community partners. This effort that we're continuing with today will be led by culture, who many of you are familiar with, by the mutual assistance network that don't pass a bulletvard business improvement district or don't Paso Boulevard Partnership, Sierra Service Project and a Sierra Community Land Trust among a host of others. So it is truly from the ground up and out. And that's the way we build a community, that's the way we build strength, and that's the way we build sustainability over time. So I want to express great thanks to all the partners. I am very, very excited about this. Can't you tell how excited I am? And looking forward to all the good work that's going to come from this. And finally, just want to repeat my thanks to my fellow council members for the actions of the past and the actions of today and the actions of the future to invest in district two and in these commercial corridors. Thanks Mayor. And council member Vanguette comments on item 12? Yes I have comments on item 12 and just wanted to echo council member Dickinson on item 11 on the grant agreement and district two Thank you again to city staffs hard work that up to former councilmember Sean Tau as well For that and so great that we have a champion D2 making sure that this is continuing It's so important to make sure that we don't leave these communities and these corridors behind because when district two does well, all of Sacramento does well. So congratulations council member Dickinson and to the district two community. I wanted to just comment on item 12 to the same staff as well. This is regarding the Med of You community farmers market operator. I represent the Med of You community in South Sacramento and there's many families in household that lives in that community without vehicles, that are low income, and there are more than half a mile away from a supermarket or fresh produce. And this farmer's market is something that we launched last summer. And I want to take this moment to thank Michele, our senior development project manager, who's actually overseeing this food initiative. I want to say thank you to Samantha, Lisa Thong, my director of strategic engagement, our Mediview Farmers Market Committee, made of residents in the Mediview community that really helped guide this process and a special shout out to Assemblymember Stephanie Winn, who actually helps secure state funding through the California Department of Food and Ag. The Mediview Farmers Market was launched last summer like I shared. We completed our first phase, but then we had to launch an RFP to make sure that we use the remaining grant until 2027 and seek a long time operator. Really excited that Alchemist was chosen to be our long term operator. They do incredible work in the community. They operate CalFresh booth at Farmers Market so that our CalFresh families can access, can use their EBT card to purchase healthy and culturally relevant food. And so I'm just really excited to get this going and to launch the Farmers Market again this spring. And just really want to thank city staff and community members that led this project to make it happen. Thank you so much. Thank you, councilmember. I have six speakers on this. Simon Hyatt on item two. So, Simon, please feel free to land on the aisle. After Simon is Mac Worthy and Henry Harry. Greetings, council. Mr. Mayor, thank you for the opportunity to be appointed to the Active Transportation Commission today. I especially want to thank you, Mr. Mayor, because I think it showed a lot of leadership as far as I included my involvement in the opposition in the election last year and did a lot of work to get Dr. Flow elected. And so I think it's really powerful to be reaching out to the other side and including us on your commission. So I want to thank you for that, Mr. Mayor. I want to give a shout out to Lynette Hall and her team in the City Management Academy, which I participated in last year and helped me get inspired there. Were you a graduate, Maior? Hi, I was a graduate. I was a graduate. City Management Academy, Plenty Academy. Very good. Well, many Academy. Some of the ones here. Nice. Nice. Wonderful. And my working family's party champion. One other shout out a few weeks ago, we spoke about the Truxel road bridge and really wanted to thank Lisa for her comments that day. Moving forward, I would like to see, you know, our city streets are some of our, a lot of people are being killed, being injured, I've personally been hit and run myself. And as a top priority, as the mayor's a pointy, not just representing my own district, but representing the entire city, top priority for me will be to find the ways that we can make our Roseville Road campus safe. I want to give a, there was a woman, Wendy Connell was killed in January, a resident at that campus. It was common in the campaign last year. Thank you for your comments, Your time is complete. Our next speaker is Mac Worthian, item four. Henry Harry on five and seven. Mac Worthian is on four and seven appears. When people don't educate that constancy, that's ignorance. Now, just tax within the tax, special tax. How do we track that? You had to follow all suit on how that money spent. Sad. Sad to see that you got taxed within the tax. That should have come out when the soup of Bank of America was utilizing the extra money. Then we go to number seven. How can you say that you go and deal with bonds and you're going to keep up that property when you are being pelting? This is called being pelting. We don't actually know how many companies that contribute to your campaign. So we can give this stuff to the right people when they come to town and show that this is abuse of violence. What is the constitutionality to that when it's being peddling within a city and you got like these little small be as oscillators, who I can't get a permit to get a country. No, because they didn't contribute to your, to your campaign. I wonder who has the constitution out of the two of that. Did anybody file the constitution out? We know we ain't got no attorneys here in this town. Corporate attorneys, all the corporate attorneys somewhere for working for some former government. That's what we are looking for, the corporate attorneys that we can find obviously, you know, here on Freeman Speech, where we see stuff going here that's ridiculous. We can even track the money. And then you're gonna have a tax, within a tax high as I explained, what about the extra money with that? Bond did not tell the previous mayor. You can't survive all bonds. You just said that you had to sell some of those bonds because they went down. Wake up people. The time coming. Thank you for your comments. Henry Harry on five and seven. Then Rashan Davis on item 11. Thank you members of the council. So item 5, you show a map of the city land that is proposed to be used downtown. I just want to point out that I've asked this council or maybe you can direct me to somebody in the city who can give me a wider map that shows all the city-owned land so that I can start to process some ideas that I have and I've spoke about those at council moving on to number seven the the police department seems to be moving toward a no-bid software system and I'm going to request that that maybe you can make that a one-year contract. So the police commission will have a chance to review what's going on with that contract with an eye-own. How information is stored and shared by that provider. Because I think I think that's an area where the police commission should be involved in. I have two minutes here but the police commission can really dig down and make sure our data is protected and that the police department is going to get product one of the questions I have is or the thing I'll point out is we don't know if those other providers would have tried to provide any fix any shortcomings and still give us a cheaper product. And so the last thing I'll say to you guys here is just my objection to this meeting that to a clock. These are very important issues. Fast majority of our people are out working. And at a time when they can't be here, you're debating these very important issues and I just object to it. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. for Roshan Davis with culture. I don't have much to say. We have been working on something very special in D2. I invite all of you guys to come see it with the help of the city, with the help of the folks in the community. Like Councilman Dickinson said we're working from the grass roots up but also building from the top down so we have a lot of the pieces to the puzzle to really affect change in our communities and we're working diligently on it, so I would definitely appreciate your support and passing that. Thank you. Thank you for your comments, Tamika. Greetings, councilmembers, Mayor McCarty. I just want to reiterate what Rochon said, what councilmember Dickinson said, thank you in advance for passing this item. We know that District 2 is a thriving community with historical spaces and multi-generations of families who have thrived but also have struggled. And we want to make sure that any revitalization efforts include them and make sure that they can stay and enjoy the fruits of their labor and the resilience that they've shown over the years. The Forward Together Action Plan is really a model that I hope other cities and other areas will duplicate, ensuring that our community members who are at the forefront of these challenges are also the voices at the table, that collective governance and consensus building is at the forefront of what we do to really build community cohesion and make the space a place for everyone in Sacramento to come and experience and for the people in District 2 to live and work in play. And so appreciate this item coming before you. Appreciate city staff. Michele, whose name has been mentioned many times. But again, you know, working with Michele in ginger and our partners for our service project mutual assistance. The Del Paso Boulevard partnership and of course culture. This is a collaboration that we hope to see more of in your districts too. Thank you. Thank you for your comment, Mary. I have no more speakers on the consent calendar. Okay, we have a motion and a second on the entire consent calendar. All those in favour, please say aye. Aye. Any no's or extensions? Please say no. Hearing none, measures pass. Next item, please. We move to the discussion calendar. Item 15 is City County Partnership Agreement to address homeless crisis update. All right. Good afternoon, Mayor Council. This is our six-month report for the City County partnership from July 1 through December 31st of 2024. This, we're about halfway through this agreement. Almost exactly halfway through this agreement. It's been a good baseline agreement to get the city and county to work together and have some accountability on this and provide you some feedback every six months to show you the work that we're doing All right, so what we have done is taking the agreement and broken down into four separate areas Outreach services shelter housing and training and information If we look at Well, let me back up. I will tell you that we have been using the same model with the red yellow and green. Red indicates that an area has not been completed. Yellow is that it's in progress and then green is that it has been completed in full and meets the requirement. And so in the outreach area we have met all the requirements. We have green across the board. We do have ten encampment teams that are out in the city every day. We have actually the city has, these are minimum standards on this. 25 city encampment workers. We actually have 40 out in the field right now with DCR our contract with Hope step up and that gets us ours the county has 10 mental health workers out there's actually two that are in currently in training which will bring them to 12 and And so we are deploying out to every day very large teams throughout the city. The county is meeting their 67% within the city. Their mental health workers in the city. Currently, community health works is providing the 15 Cal lame workers that are providing the ECM and community service component of this. County staff obviously is conducting behavioral health assessments and enrollments constantly and I'll let them speak on that as far as breaking that out a little bit later. City will determine deployment sites for engagement. We deploy teams every day throughout the city covering all of our districts. And we assign out every morning. And campment teams will engage in 20 large encampments. This language is a little older language. We don't have 20 large encampments throughout the city in total. Obviously this changes over time, but we are certainly engaging in more than 20 encampments per month, far exceeding this. And then the last metric on this is is and arrange. People experiencing homeless back to their jurisdiction when appropriate. For the city, we've always looked at this as in that we will get you back to your jurisdiction if we have a contact and someone that is willing to accept you back into your district. We don't want to just take somebody into another city or out in the county if they're not going to a specific location to be housed. This is a look at some of the outreach that we provided in the last six months. 3,879 locations that we've been to, we have served 2,348 unduplicated individuals, so it is not a combined or going back in repeating. This is individuals that we've actually talked to and provided service for. And then the breakdown numbers there is 40,000 overall services. This is individuals that we've actually talked to and provided service for. And then the breakdown numbers there's 40,000 overall services. This is a in total, all services that all of us out there have provided from providing clothing to general case management, getting vital documents, putting people in the coordinated access system, so it gives us a total of 40,000 services that we've provided in the last six months. Under services, the county has provided the four core centers that we have been, been stood up, core access was the last one that came online, and we're meeting that metric. The sobering center that we have is the crib, the on 7th and age, well spaces running that is not only a sobering center, but it also has a behavioral health component to it. The next metric city county will refer care coordination programs including behavioral health. we have the behavioral health out treat outpatient treatments We have FSPs and then of course we're providing the Cal I'm enhanced care management FSPs of the program is full slots will be added and County is meeting the state standard for access to substance disorder services. And then lastly, when appropriate, we'll provide the involuntary diversion programs. There's the outpatient programs. We have care court that was just brought up in December. And we're meeting that metric. shelter in housing. so our first 12 months, the county did meet the metric by opening their 200 beds. The shovel ready, we'll skip over 36 months and go to the shovel ready site. We, the city provided the shovel ready site is Stockton Boulevard. That just came up in December and we opened it with 175 and then the 36th month metric up there is the what avenue that's sproak ground and is going right now. Slate it for 2.25 so we'll get credit for the 25 from that to make the 175 from Stockton Boulevard add up to our total of 200 required in that metric. City and County, we both have shelters that are outside of the coordinated access system, And then the rest that aren't we don't have. So the access to this we wanted immediate placement that we have so we have our Roosevelt Road Center and our our region engagement center that we can immediately place somebody everything else has been put into the coordinated access system and so we have city and county have both met that metric. And then City County will finalize an affordable housing plan. This was back in October 23 that we provided an affordable housing plan. And lastly, City and County agreed to seek additional funding for mental health and homelessness. and homelessness we are constantly applying for prop one home key plus ERF HAP any funding available out there. So we're very active in providing seeking grants to cover this Last Area is training and information counties provided the mental health first aid train to the city. They've provided the public health education to shelter operators. We had asked them to come and provide us the city, DCR staff, information on all the programs and how to access them. They graciously came over and over months treated trained us up on several programs that they have the Next one city and county shall track and share information and data on outcomes We have cleaned up this metric quite a bit have agreed on how we're pulling this information Part of of it is from the HMI-S system. The other part of this is in the behavioral health. There is a little safety wall in there because behavioral health is in that treatment mode so there is some hippocompliance that we're working with and careful with that we don't share any information that shouldn't be shared outside of that. And then lastly, the 5150 training was asked for in the last six month requests and they provided the 5150 training to the city DCR workers. and with that, this is just an overview that we are hitting all of our categories right now and open to questions. So Mary, I have seven speakers. Shall we take those first? Thank you. Maine, Seychau, Donna Taylor, Macworthy, Twana James, Mac, and then Simon Hyatt. Please feel free to line up in the aisle. So again, Maine, Seychau, Donna Taylor, Macworthy, Kwanajames, Mac, and then Simon Hyatt. No, I have one thing to say, not this one. I was curious if there's any difference. Thank you, Father. Council in the mayor. We still don't have no power to the trailer and people are getting really sick in this moment. Thank you. Donna. Hello, everyone. First I want to thank God. I want to thank everyone on panel. I'm a resident of first-depth community located on 3900 rows we are wrote. Where there are located 39 pallets, I mean trailers with no electricity and there are 60 pallets with electricity. Not only that, the pallets, I mean, yeah, the pallets on floor and road are with electricity. Not only that, the pallets, I mean, yeah, the pallets on floor and road all have electricity. The ones on Stockton Boulevard all have electricity. And it's not fair that we don't have electricity for the trailers on Roseville Road. Not only that, there's no way to walk. There's no way to park your car, no way to wash and dry our clothes. And it's not fair that the other shelters have these things and we don't have them. So I wanted to say that and it's just not fair. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Macworthy's next up. Did you want to? We hear many things on this homeless. What are you training? Did you get anything from the medical? Where is the doctors to declare that person is milked? Where is the documentation? We want to see the documentation. Now, who owns the sites that you're in? Do the city account accounting on those sites? I might as well get the information out. Now, when we look at that, it was at a district. What are you in the Constitution to tell a person they can't get mental health treatments because they're not in this district? We want to hear that. That's bullshit. This saying, if I got to go to the doctor, I got to show the doctor where I live, get you act together people. These are the things that we're going to ask the Republican people on. Step upon this because somebody abuse and money here. You create these things, but you're not saying what money going. You can't survive all bonds and grants. The thing going out here, how many of those people in middle health that have graduated from middle health, you can't. Once you end that treatment, what are you getting in pills for those people? Tell them the truth. Tell them how you come to be that. These are things that you should be doing when you run into those things like over at the City College over the weekend on Martin King, on Martin County. That's bullshit. You get into those neighborhoods and talk to those people and find out out what's now is going on, not to pass. You don't know about to pass. So, no, what you read, I live the pass of abuse. So, wake up people. Your comments, Twana, then Mac? It wouldn't hurt for you guys to look at us when we come up here. We appreciate that. My name is Juan and James and I'm residing on the 3900 Road to the World. And I'm here to ask Roger Dickson if we can have an appointment with you. If you can have one of your staff come and meet us and have an appointment with you. We have mold. We have, I mean, it's just, it's not livable there. I broke my hand there in December. And it's hard for us to get an appointment with the director there. I have my hand I cannot feel no more. The people, they, I mean, they live it. How would you feel if everybody had power but you? Even the staff, the trader has power. They have power hooked up. They wasted all that money to hook it up, just to take it down and keep these people on the code and everybody has power, but them. That is not even my, I'm in a pot, I have heat. But I'm here for my friends, because it's wrong. I just think that you guys should have people come in there and have a phone number that people can complain. And we have enough people complained and then do something about it. We're living in Phillip here. Some people, some people, the staff, the nine-time staff is beautiful. Day time, we can't get them to do nothing. They just sit there on the phone. We have to wait for them to get off their phone and text so that we can get them to asking to do You know something for us and then and then it's just I think that you guys should have some heart for for them People have power they don't They freeze if they want to eat they go into the dining room people keep these blaring lights are on I mean come on some of them might have a job and they gotta lift you that. It's not right. Just please, and this is, I got pictures. It's the things that we have to live through, mold in a shower. Nobody cleans nothing. They were not supposed to clean. Who was supposed to clean the bathroom? We can't, we got 20 minutes to sit in there, and we can't fun. Thank you for your comments. Your time is complete. Next speaker is Mack. Good afternoon, Council. My name is Mack. My pronouns are they them. And I'm a community organizer in Sacramento. I always appreciate presentations. I always appreciate when we give more information than the bare minimum in presentations. I'm seeing today 2300 unduplicated individuals where we have a housing search slash placement being 1800. I think that those are two different things, right? Housing search versus housing placement and things like that. And I think I bring this to your attention because oftentimes what we see is these services, right, the the housing the hygiene or the clothing the hygiene transportation food services care coordination all of these things are oftentimes precursors to sweeps in Sacramento City districts and limits. So then you sweep people and then you can't find them and then we have to start the process all over again. I think I want to speak on a large encampment sweep that just happened off of El Camino about two weeks ago. It happened on a rainy day over 400 people were shoved, further down and out and further into hiding so that way they can just live in their tent and try try to stay warm. This was done by city rangers alongside Hope and DCR. That day, Hope sat in their car while DCR had one person on site standing there watching as long enforcement and Sheriffwork project in coordination. Thripped people's belongings away from them. I think the biggest critique that I have besides the sweep in general is the fact that actually a lot of these speakers were, a lot of these folks were Spanish speaking individuals, which meant that when officers went out and put their tags out, they dropped one and did not speak to anybody who lived there, which meant that nobody knew what was going on until the day of and they had their shit starting to be ripped from them and then threatened with arrest in a language they don't even understand. So the coordination efforts, comments, your time is complete. Thank you for your comments. Our next speaker is Simon. Always, always. Greetings, Council. And I just wanted to stand in solidarity with our residents at the Roseville Road facility. Mac just spoke about transportation and I wanted to alert you to an article front page Sacramento be Wednesday February 19th of this year that tells the story of Wendy Connell who was killed on Roseville Road just outside of the shelter and when that shelter was built we were told that it would have access to transportation, local transit and that it would be safe but unfortunately Roseville Road is proven to not be safe. It has a 50 mile an hour speed limit. Oftentimes, as you know, people don't drive the speed limit. They typically drive 10 and 20 miles an hour faster. And that's how we lost our neighbor, Wendy Cahnel, who was on her way to getting housing, as you'll see, in that article by Ariane Lang. So do read that article and let's slow the speed limit ASAP. This is something that we can do really quick, if we have homeless facilities. Last year we talked about, we can't tell people where they can't be without telling them where they can be. Well, the places that they can be need to be safe for them to get to. And so it would be my proposal that we would treat any homeless shelter just as we would treat a school and have a 25-mile-an-hour speed limit. Those are some things that we could do right away without having to do more bike lanes, things like that can lower speed limits like that and Help save our communities lives. Thank you Thank you for your comments. Mary have no more speakers on this agenda item Okay, thank you questions and comments council members council member Kaplan Thank you mayor Mr. Pedro couple questions. Now that we are two years into this partnership and you are a little over a year into what you're doing and figuring out what are the next steps especially how can we increase the accountability and increase the results in helping our residents who are on the streets, getting them into supportive and permanent housing. What do you see as the next steps to help increase the positive outcome? Ooh, that's a big question. So the agreement is self. So the City County Partnership Agreement addresses some baseline service provisions and we, there's some good points brought up. We are providing a lot of services. Are those as we progress? So we started with an original model. And we had to have some kickoff point to determine how we're going to address providing services. So we started there. We're now halfway into it. And we're looking at our, are the services we're providing the correct services? Are they getting, are they effective? Are we making a difference? Everything that we would look at to readjust, I can tell you that we have been constantly looking at our metrics in trying to determine what will work better for us. We have pulled a lot of our behavioral health workers off of outreach in trying to provide behavioral outreach in the streets and put them into our shelters so that they can provide more effective behavioral health where we can make contact with that individual day after day in a setting that is more secure, stable, and so we've been making adjustments such is that we have We have more adjustments that need to be made. And it's up to you to decide if we want to do anything with the City County Partnership and add more to it or look at other services that we would want to provide or ship their service model. And thank you for that. I'm not on the partnership. So this is my one opportunity to publicly state my opinion so we don't violate the Brown Act. But I see the good work you're doing. And also acknowledging that we receive less hat money. And so now we also have to look at, we are facing a budget deficit. I think it's more important than ever that we find ways one, we increase the data we're getting. And to look at what are we investing in? Because, you know, I've said this before, it's not new, getting a 35% positive exit into housing is not a good investment in our money. It's good for everybody that gets those services, but what are we missing? So I would support you talking to those of my colleagues who are on the City County Partnership of we now have a baseline what can we do is that is better that is more accountable seeing that potentially less money is coming in the governor is requesting increased accountability which I know you're instituting but I'd like to be you know lock step with the county so that we make sure we're both in line on that And then something you said that would just like to hear your thoughts on. How we're investing in sobering centers. They're not being used as much as they could be. And we heard from our police chief, was it last week? It could have been the week before, that when they booked somebody, they're losing an officer off the street for three plus hours. And is a sobering center a better place for somebody versus jail? And then I know sometimes our sobering centers can reject somebody coming and saying we don't want them there. How do we, I've seen models in other cities that sobering centers are very effective as an interim place. So I am looking forward to your thoughts on that, your thoughts to the 4x4 of how can we work better to make sobering centers more productive so that our officers are not necessarily spending three hours in booking because those individuals probably don't need to be in jail. And how can we strengthen the balance of making sure our sobering centers are taking individuals so that they have a safe place to sober up, but not through jail. I don't expect you to have an answer now, but that's something I'd like to see more of and that conversation in the partnership agreement. But thank you. Yes. And I will mention that there are a couple of things that we are currently doing. We have the Street Overdose Response Team that is a combination team that DCR and a paramedic from the Fire Department. We have two of those rigs up right now. They are taking individuals to our sobering centers. And so that's one component of using the sobering centers more. And then we are also on the fire department side, they're looking to address that alternative response models so they can actually take somebody to a sobering center instead of a hospital. So there are a couple of ways that are already in effect to use the sobering centers more. Great and I know we have a county representative here if they have got any thoughts they would love to contribute to that while they're here I think it's always good to hear from them at the same time. Come on up. Welcome to the hot seat. Thank you members of the council mayor Timlet Structure of Health Services for the county and yeah I think that's a great question on sobering, sobering center, sober living. We actually through the behavioral health bridge housing program, one of the areas that we did augment was sobering. In fact, most, I think, if not all of those facilities we added were in city and I appreciate and we met with council members whose districts those were in recognizing. Sometimes the barrier becomes. A lot of those are smaller, more home style or condominium style settings and it can be a challenge to bring them into neighborhoods. I feel like our provider bridges in this case does a really good job working within our communities. We can always use more and part of it's just getting enough people interested in doing it, putting in capacity dollars on the behavioral health side. That's definitely something that we've continued to stay focused on building out. And again, as that intersection of Prop 36, those are conversations also with the district attorneys office. Perfect. I would just love to see that potentially strengthened in some of the partnerships we have, especially if we are expanding our service of the alternate model with our firefighters, knowing that they can drop somebody off at a sobering center. And that center is not going to turn them away because I also trust the expertise of our firefighters to know where somebody medically should be. Right now, it is the argument with the sobering center. The way that we see that happening, so the program you're describing And there's our triage to triage alter destination program that we went live with in January. Our crisis receiving behavioral health that is off downtown right next to the jail is one of those drop off sites. We've specifically worked with well space health to be able to connect into our substance use treatment system. So we would probably still want them going to the crib if for no other reason than to get the assessment of are they ready for sober living. But definitely that's the design or idea behind that triage-alton destinations is get them to the crib or our mental health treatment center. Don't let's not get them into jail if it's law enforcement. Let's not get them into the emergency departments. Thank you. And I guess this is for the next time you guys come back for the city county partnership. I think more details on what's working and not working with the sobering center or you guys can work on that on the four by four as you come back but I think the alternate response model is something kind of like the next step as we look at the City County partnership. How can we make sure the fire department is included in and their leadership and all of this, you know, despite you having personal knowledge, Brian, bring in the we make sure the fire department is included in their leadership and all of this, you know, despite you having personal knowledge, Brian, bring in the leadership so that we're all on the same page, even Metro. So there, we have something as a consistent message. But thank you for that council member. It's helpful to know each iteration of the report. add more data elements now. FS, FSPs are a standard piece. Happy to maybe build out some more around the substance use treatment and metrics there also. Now that we have Prop 1, Prop 36, I think our community is going to want to know how are we implementing what we currently have, despite not necessarily having funding to go with the new obligations. Fully, what is it that we are doing to try and address it as well as our community is looking for alternative response models? So what are we looking at and how does the partnership agreement mold into this new era so that we can get people into shelter and off the streets. So thank you. I appreciate that. And I will just specifically call out before my next colleague joins that the 40,018 services for 2348 unique individuals does relate to just over 17 touches per person. So it is important to call that out statistically of there's a lot of things that the city and county are doing to try and help individuals. And I wanna see how we can make that more successful. You know, I don't know what the answer is, but I know you guys are doing a lot, and however we can do that to make those touches more successful and to the next step of getting them off the streets is something I'm interested in hearing more. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Mourimaple. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you, Brian, for the presentation. I just really want to acknowledge the amount of work that's gone into this over the last year or so and it's really been, I know it's been hard work. and then you're going to get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a And I just really want to acknowledge the amount of work that's gone into this over the last year or so. And it's really been, I know it's been hard work and I know it's been challenging. But we've also, I think, seen a lot of progress and that shows up in our numbers. As the governor recently released a website that shows the point in time counts and how those numbers are across the state. And Sacramento is outperforming virtually every other county in terms of being able to get people into services and to housing. Doesn't mean we've done enough. Absolutely not. We have a lot of work left to do, but I think it's really important to acknowledge the work that is done because I know that you have people on your team and the county has people on their team that are out every single day. And these are social workers, these are healthcare workers, of people who are directly engaging in encampments and talking with folks and trying to get them connected to services. So, you know, we're always under resource, but I just want to acknowledge that work because it can be very thankless at times. So I hope if anyone's watching from any of those teams, the heart team and others, we see you out here. I have a couple specific questions and then just some comments. One, I know we have folks from the Roseville road shelter here and I know that last week several of us on just so you know several of us on the site, I still reach out and ask questions about the electricity and about blankets and other things. Can you provide an update on that for folks. So when we started that site, we were trying to get that site up to get shelters up as quick as possible. And so with that, we provided the pallet homes and the trailers first before we brought in the infrastructure of electricity. And the process to get electricity to a site is effort in and of itself. One of the biggest things that slows that down, bless you, is providing the, what is called the switch gear or the transformer to provide the electricity to that many individual sites. And so the ordering backlog on that is four to six months just to get that transformer. So we decided that we would go with the placement, get people off the streets, get them inside and continue the process of providing electricity. So with that, it requires us to then get the power source there and then get conduit to this individual site and then pull the electrical wire and actually hook up the site. So we did that and we got the pallet homes wired. With the trailers, we have power to every trailer right now. But there is a safety factor involved in that these trailers have been FEMA trailers that have been around with many people living in them at different sites. And so the safety concern that we had is we don't want to just plug these trailers in and have some electrical wire short circuit outlet, something happen and catch the trailer on fire. A trailer will go up very quick. If on a small fire it will run that trailer instantly. So that was our concern. So we went out to bid to get a contractor to look at our trailers. That process in itself, we have to go through our city process, bid process. So we did select someone, they did go out there, they inspected our trailers, a visual inspection. The cost to go through each trailer, visually inspect them, upgrade them to put heating in the trailers because simply pulling electrical to the trailer does not make the heater work. The heater works off of a separate system and so we do have to upgrade the system to make it an electrical heater. All of that said it's cost prohibitive to upgrade these trailers. They're easily towards the end of their life. We have currently on order a contract for 135 new homes, tiny homes, and we will be replacing the trailers with those, and then we will power those up. And so there's a lot of thought put into, do we expend that money on it for a two month, three month period, or just change them out for tiny homes. So, that's where we're out in that process. We, there has been offers to have as many blankets as you want. We have offered, like somebody said, either a movie into the day room that has an HVAC system or into our office space there that also has a climate controlled area. And so with what we have to work with, we've done as much as we can for now. That's really helpful. Just because I want to make sure that we have the information on the public. I know that we received an email about that and many of you are wondering, but it's challenging when we're trying to move quickly, but we also don't have the infrastructure in some of the places that we've identified. It just takes a long time and we know that we're working with our partners too, right? So we have to go through not only a city process, but also a smud process to make sure that we're in line with them all of the various projects that they have for electrification. So I know that you're continuing to work on that, and I appreciate that. I just wanted to take it out. My next question, maybe have for electrification. So I know that you're continuing to work on that and I appreciate that. I just want to take it down. My next question maybe more for the county. I'm wondering if you can talk about the care court implementation. If there's a status on that from the county's perspective and if that aligns with our city county partnership. Yes, and I may phone a friend. I have Nicole Cable here who I know was here with you guys last week Who also is implementing our our care program? I guess are there specific questions that you have in terms of Obviously we we implemented December. As of yesterday, we had 21 actual petitions that came into the program. So we are seeing a definitely a notable volume. It seems to be trickling about three-ish a week at this point. And still early in that implementation to really have a lot of meaningful data on longer term outcomes. We know that the majority of the strongest majority of referrals are coming from family members at this point. That's really helpful. So 21 thus far. And then what does the timeline typically look like right from the time that someone is first, and maybe this is in a co-question? If I'm like in a co-question. So it's a person, it's a petition to win, maybe someone's enters a program or receives some kind of treatment. Sure. That varies quite a bit. The court process is obviously, there's a lot of different steps to it. And it depends on whether the person is coming to us through a petition process which starts at the court and then comes to our team. Or if we're receiving referrals, there are three kind of buckets of referral sources, including hospitals who may have somebody on an involuntary hold. Our internal behavioral health programs, such as our heart team and other co-response crisis intervention team, we allow them to make referrals to us so that they don't have to engage in that court process. And then the third is the courts. There are specific courts that are called out in the law that are able to make those referrals directly to our behavioral health team. So the processes are a little bit different with the referrals. We have two weeks to either file a petition with the court or come up with a decision on whether they're appropriate for care. And those ones, some of those 21, I believe five of those were ones that our county behavioral health care team did file themselves and so we're contributing to that number. The rest as Tim Lutz said is most of them are coming from family members. When they come directly through that route, the judge has primafacial review first and then once he's completed that it comes to our team to do an investigation. And so from that point of investigation, we then have 30 days to locate an individual, assess them, get records, anything that we need to really substantiate the petition. And then we report back to the court. And so that's really where the individual gets enrolled into the program as they go to that first initial hearing. And at that point, the judge rules on whether or not they're appropriate. The individual is assigned a public defender at the time that behavioral health is assigned at the same time. And so at the same time, we are working on doing our investigation. The public defender is also meeting with the client, finding out what their needs and wishes are, and really trying to trying to engage collaboratively into the process. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I know many of us here are curious about the implementation. So just appreciate the update. Yes, I would happily take some pamphlets that we can keep on in our offices and pass out to our constituents. I really appreciate that. So I'm just going to make a, I think that's it for you. Thank you. I'm just going to make a few comments, just high level and I'll pass it on. But one of the things that, you know, it's clear to me as I mentioned at the top that we, you know, we're making progress, it's going to take a lot of time, it's going to take resources and it's going to take us working together as we already are but in more effective ways. I know that, you know, I believe and I've said this many times and I'll keep saying it, I really think that we collectively as a region, our county and the cities within it including the city of Sacramento really needs to take a long hard look at how we can operate and govern ourselves on this issue in a much more formal way. I think the MOU is wonderful. We've made leaps and bounds in terms of our relationship working together with the city and the county together. I think it's a wonderful step forward, but I think there is a lot that we need to do collectively to work together in a more formal role. And I think that includes our partners that includes Sacramento Stepss Forward. As many of you know, Sacramento Steps Forward was created as that regional planning and data body. But really, it's not a decision-making body. It doesn't have any elected officials on the board. It doesn't necessarily have a direct role in policy. And so that creates sometimes a challenge for us where we have really great plans to get created, but not necessarily a very actionable way to make them into reality. And actually, normally what happens is you have a lot of jurisdictions that are independently making decisions and at least to silos. And I know that's not something that we want. We talk about that a lot, that we want to coordinate and collaborate better together. But the challenge is what is actually happening on the ground is other than obviously our teams that are working together through the MOU and the partnership agreement. We're not necessarily having those high level conversations that I think we need to be having about how do we get to zero? What would it look like if we focused on women and children about them off the street? What would it look like if we focused on veterans, for example, those conversations happen in a planning capacity, but not necessarily the elected capacity of us working together. And I think of that scenario where we need to have those conversations together with our county partners. And frankly, I believe with the other cities that are also in our county, I don't think we all have the same role to play. For example, we are not all going to contribute the same amount of resources depending on the size and the severity of the population within those jurisdictions, but I do think we all should be working together in a much more formalized capacity. So that's a request that I'm going to have of us is that we take a look at that, that we evaluate whether or not the current system that we're working under makes sense for the types of decisions that we need to be making. And whether we should be looking forward to a more formalized structure, such as a joint powers authority, which about 15 years ago was originally discussed between the city and the county. When Sacramento Statsford was first created and never actually came to fruition. So I think that that's one area that we could look at, but I know that there are other options, the county of Sacramento did an analysis on shared governance models in 2023. I've read through that report, I think that there's some great work there that we can possibly take a look at, but it's going to be require us all meeting together. And so I'd love to see that. And I also just want to know that this also should combine with our work with SHRA as well. We know that we have our Sacramento Housing and Redevelopment Agency that got their housing action plan, affordable housing action plan that was a part of that work. But how do we incorporate all these things together and how do we collectively make decisions as a region on homelessness and housing that align with our data and the reports that we put out right now that's. It's not really happening and I would love to see that happen and so that those are some of my comments I'd love to see better coordination I'd love this to go down that path and have those conversations with the county and ourselves thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Dickinson. Thanks Mayor and thanks very much for the presentation. I want to start by following on from some of the earlier exchanges since your presentation, Brian, and maybe beginning with Roseville Road. And in particular, and I appreciate the description of what is being done to try to upgrade the conditions at Roseville Road. Besides those we know we obviously have safety issues with respect to transportation and access and some frustration with trying to create that connection between particularly light rail and the Roseville road facility. So maybe you want to say a word about where we stand with respect to realizing a more direct connection for people at the facility to get to and from light rail. Sure. So when we initially looked at exit out of the facility we looked at the east side which is the most direct route out of Roeville Road to the RT station. We did some preliminary walks and actually put a gate in, a pedestrian gate in that backside. And as we went down the road with that and started talking to CalTrans about the possibilities, they had concerns because it's actually an off-ramp. The very tail end of an off-ramp, but it is an off-ramp. And so in discussions with them, they had safety concerns to the degree of putting up fencing barriers, extensive safety measures to make that exit out that backside because of that exit. So the requirements there ended up being much bigger than we would have anticipated from the initial conversations. So what we did is on the south side facing Roosevelt Road, there is a south gate down there that we have opened up. And it has a very large area once you get out of the gate before you're even accessing Roseville Road, which gives you a walkway south into the RT area without having to be close to the road. So that is initially what we have. We are working on another pedestrian access fence to run down the front side of a Roseville road so that you have space from the road and using some of the facility itself to make a pedestrian way to get in and out of the facility. I mean, you might even be able to employ some like a Jersey barrier to separate the travel lane from pedestrian lane. Short of a full-fledged fence. Something would be easier to get and install. We've talked to a public works has a project at putting our gray all along Roseville road that we talked about and so there is some other barriers that we have discussed. I mean obviously there are Jersey barriers along the side of the road in certain places along Auburn and Roseville Road. Not so much for pedestrian safety but to prevent people from parking and walking in and ways that would be unsafe. But I think the sooner we can create some sort of safer access than exists now, the better. I wanted to ask you about the, you mentioned 135 tiny homes that are on order. And those are being paid for out of the grant that came from the state last year or these in addition to. Those 135 are the in-campaign resolution fund grant that was for the Northern Bike Trail. Yeah, so it had been my impression that we were going to expand the capacity of Roseville roads facility by that 135 but from what you said it sounds like if they're replacing trailers that we're going to have something significantly less in terms of net growth of the facility and accommodations. So what does that turn out to be Brian Brian? So the grant was actually written to be at least 100 more tying homes. And because I'm cheap for lack of better terms, we negotiated the purchase price of our pallet homes down from $13,000000 to 10,000, which allowed us more to buy the extra 35. So those 35 will be used to backfill the trailers, we'll still be meeting our 100. And there's a little bit of funding in there to expand on that a little further. But we're meeting the ERF in expanding that. And a lot of it. A net of at least 100 more tiny homes on the site. And those will all be connected to power as they go in. Correct. So we've already ordered the switch gear, the transformer. We're getting that going. We's been ordered to make sure that we're not. That's not our hold up. We are going to add these a little bit differently to where we're setting the homes, bringing in the power to them, and then bringing individuals in so that we're not trying to power them up with running conduit and pulling wire while people are living in them. So, yeah, I think it certainly would be desirable to have them in functioning, a full functioning condition when people move in. So, we avoid this mismatch. And I understood at the time and I understand now what you said earlier that the decision was made to try to get people in, under roof rather than wait and have the full-fledged operation, which would have been, as we have seen, months and months at least. So I understand that decision. Let me move on for a moment. I wanna pick up on this issue of sobering centers for a moment. And of course, as you and I were talking earlier today, the sobering centers are not something new to Sacramento County. We were talking about, at least my recollection was volunteers of America operated a sobering up location in the river district for many, many years. And so this is really the continuation of, or at least the return, if not the continuation of a modality that's been around for a while. But what I wanted to explore just for a moment with you was, you know, the concept of housing first was developed for a number of reasons, but one of them was to allow people who had some form of addiction. It could be alcohol, it could be drugs, to actually rather than going to some congregate location or non-home location to have a place to go. And one of the strengths of housing first in many of its early incarnations was that those who might drink more than they should and sometimes repeatedly wouldn't end up going someplace and drying out for 48 hours or 72 hours and then back on the street which was often the case and that's what we experienced as I recall with the VOA site, but rather would have an apartment, a room somewhere they could go and then they had that roof on an ongoing basis. So I am just curious in the current realm, what kind of experience are we seeing with those who show up at the sobering centers such as the crib and to what extent are we employing housing first approach. centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric centric cent Yeah, well space does run the crib and I think there's a lot to unpack in that question. And I think what you're describing and I was texting back and forth to try and make sure I understand I think you're describing some of the detox beds that used to be available. Yeah, versus typically like the sober living facilities that we have are typically going to be a longer term placement. So they're not going to be, you know, a few days. The detox environment was where you had people that would, yeah, detoxify, but then limited stay be released. What we're hoping to address with the crib was what I described, which is we see the crib as a front door to a lot of our services. So they come into the crib, they're able to detox, and then well space has access to Beds across our substance use treatment spectrum. So residential treatment, sober living, those types of placements. I mean, pardon me for interrupting for a moment, but what we saw to the best of my recollection was the same thing. The idea was you went to VOA, you dried out, the effort was then to move a person into a longer term circumstance where their condition was being addressed, whether it was alcohol, generally it was alcoholism at that time, but I drug as well. But the percentage of people who did that, who said yes, I will take that next step was pretty low. And so you ended up with people drying out but then going back on the street. And so my question is the extent that you're able to address it is, is that a similar experience that we have now, where most people don't take that next step, but rather just say thanks very much, see ya, I'm going back to wherever. I can't give you details on that, I apologize, happy to, it wasn't anticipating that heavier substance use treatment questions today, because would bring our Subtim manager along. I will say generally what what I hear from our teams is Especially with substance use treatment. It really is something that It it's important to find the right time for somebody to be ready to engage in treatment. One of the challenges that we've had, which is why we're trying this model with the crib, is the worst case is somebody's ready for treatment and we don't have a spot for them. And that's the situation that we're running into. And so we're trying to make sure then that when that person is ready, we have a spot for them and we want to help them on their journey to success. Actually, I really appreciate your response and to the extent that we have some data, the city and the county, primarily the county, I'm sure. On what is happening to those who come to the subbring center, I'd be interested. I think that would be educational for all of us to see whether we're simply a palletive for the moment or are we actually using that as a means to meaningfully and I agree with you people have to be ready to take that next step and how well are we doing in that regard. I'd be interested in that but you also your comment leads me to the next area that I wanted to ask a little bit about and it comes again from some of the exchange with Councilmember Maple. I'm curious if you have a feel for this yet, and maybe too soon, maybe too early, but when do we reach the point, if you think we ever do, that those who are being directed involuntarily into treatment start to displace those who are seeking treatment voluntarily? Yeah, I think that's a really tough question, particularly when you're talking substance use treatment. Right now there is no category of locked substance use treatment facility. So I think we are definitely a ways before we would contemplate that. And realistically, we know our focus as we want people to be voluntarily coming into treatment. Working with ball space health, we have nearly 200 substance use treatment beds that are being built out at the Stockton campus. And our focus there has been voluntary. That being said, we have this intersection of prop 36. And what we want on the behavioral health side is, that's where we know we have opportunities where they're going through diversion programs and link them into treatment with an opportunity to get their charges reduced on or dismissed for going into treatment. I think when we talk about forms of involuntary, I think that's an area that we're trying to develop our services, run all weekend support efforts that are happening. Yeah, and I don't want to go too far down this because we had a Prop 36 presentation last week, but whether it's care court or SB 43 or prop 36 to the extent and I'm using involuntary when someone says yes, I'll enter into the version program. I don't consider that completely voluntary. I mean, it's, but without semantics, if someone is being told, get treatment or you're going to jail or they're being told, you're going to treatment through Care Quarter SB 43 or other means, those are people who presumably are not in a state of mind where they would say, hey, I'd love treatment. I mean, I won't say it's coerced necessarily. I think that's probably an unfair implication, but they're being given a choice which is not necessarily a choice they would like to make. And I'm curious, and maybe this is for some additional homework is to figure out when to people that we're directing to treatment through one of these portals or another, start to displace people who want treatment voluntarily. And when does our capacity run out if the state doesn't put any money into prop 36 additional treatment resources? Because obviously the governor put no money in the budget. For that, I don't think you can assume that the legislature will add money. I mean, they may well do that, but if we got no money from the state for additional treatment slots, when do these things collide between voluntary and involuntary? Fortunately with our reimbursement, this is the one area that we are not on the behavioral health side concerned about. There is, we know whether it's involuntary through prop 36 or voluntary through our normal treatment. We have the funding to pay for the beds and that'll continue even if it grows. What our challenges is a capacity limitation. It takes a lot of money to build a facility and years to do it. I know the well-space campuses, three, four years in development. So it's really having the facility that can take people and are willing to serve the medical population that we serve with behavioral health. Well, that's a hopeful response. Thank you, thank you for that. I'm going to let you give away to Brian and I'll ask him a couple of questions. Where thank you. Brian, can you bring the chart back up that showed the services, the outreach services? I just wanted to ask a question or two about it. Yeah, yeah, there you go. So Councilmember Kaplan put it in a slightly different way, but in my looking at this, I thought for the general case management, there was an average of two to three touches per unduplicated individuals. And I'm curious about the, if you could expand a little bit on the nature and extent of what case management means in this context, because to me it usually means a continuing interaction or relationship with a person to help them progress to a state where they are able either to move back into the mainstream or into permanent support of housing, at least somewhere along on a continuum. Can you talk a little bit more about what this 24,458 represents in connection with the 2348 on duplicated individuals? Sure. So there's various levels of case management. Most of these that are out in the outreach arena are light touch case management. And that's why you see so many here. the balance of how much case management. And that's why you see so many here. There's the balance of how much case management time, effort, and there's the cost to it because the time that we have an outreach worker spending with one individual providing case management, we can do intensive case management on a smaller number of people or light touch case management and stay in touch with a larger number of people. And so most of this is a lighter touch and just staying in contact with people. We don't have the bandwidth and we don't have the funding to do heavy case management in the street and And so that's that's where you're looking at a higher number with a lighter touch and so that leaves me to wonder about about the Utility generally of or meaningfulness of of this because I Think it's fairly commonly thought. You need probably to have 10 to 15 contacts with someone who's out on the street before they, you build enough trust with them that they will say yes when you offer them housing or services. And so I wonder some further delineation of whether, you know, what the maximum number of contacts under this category with someone was the minimum, I assume the minimum was one, probably, but where is that, or where that median is would be, I think, more helpful to understand. Are we in that light touch really not accomplishing what we would like to, or are we with a certain number of cases having enough touches that we're actually persuading people to take advantage of shelter and housing, excuse me, shelter and services assuming they're available? So there's a lot to that question, right? So every individual is different out there. You can go up to talk to somebody and on the first time, they're like, yes, I'm ready to go. It all leads back to capacity. Do we have the capacity to tell the individual we have housing for them or shelter space or something available? I'm total speculation, but I'm telling you that my guess would be that number would be much lower of touches if we, you know, on touch 1, 2, 3, somewhere lower down the line. We continue to tell them we have shelter available for them and we would, there would be three touches. This average would go down. I think these are continuous touches because we don't have the capacity to actually provide the true base need of getting someone off the street. Yeah, I suspect you're absolutely right. We're trying to figure out what works and how much it takes to get something to work to help somebody off the street. That's why I'm looking for for a little bit more, not today necessarily. A bit of a greater level of refinement. So as you go into the months ahead, thinking about how you might assess that. And I just make a general comment, which I've made on a couple other vacations about the need to track. Those were trying to assist and those were assisting obviously the state is interested in what are out measurable outcomes. The public understandably has very legitimate interest in measurable outcomes. And I think we've gotten better. I applaud what you're we're doing in that regard, but I think we've got a ways to go before we can really say with confidence, here's what we're here. We're helping ex number of people and six months later, they're housed, a year later, they're housed. Having said that, I understand the challenges of doing that, but I think we have to do the best we can in that respect. I did want to say just a couple of quick things that, one of which your chart on training, I think that's great. I am a huge advocate of cross training personnel and this is not exactly cross training but it's an analog to it where the city staff is working with the county staff and others involved to understand multiple functions and perspectives which I think helps just help some do their job better. And it makes us more effective and efficient in doing that. So for me, that gets a big gold star. And I hope they'll be more. And the last thing mayor that I just want to say today, which isn't so much involved in this discussion, but for me is still a guiding principle. I hope we can address this to some extent, perhaps in the budget process, is to get to the more to the prevention side. We're not talking about so much prevention today, but from my perspective, until we do a better job of preventing homelessness, we're never going to, however you define, solving homelessness, we're not going to solve it. So I hope we can have that discussion in the months ahead about how in a broader context we're using our resources across the different elements of the homelessness assistance continuum. Thanks. Thanks, Mayor. Thank you. Vice Mayor Talamades. Councillor McKinnon. Councilmember Dickinson, 100% agree prevention is the most cost effective strategy to prevent homelessness. I think we've seen documentation of it and S.H.T.A. Tari has presented on it, and it's something that we've got to continue focusing on, because we're going to prevent people from becoming homeless in the first place, and that's going to help us with the waterfall and being able to draw down resources. So, I do have a question. So on the report, as of the end of December 2024, the total capacity in FSP programs was 2758 from July to December 2024. The FSP served 2631, 95% of total capacity unduplicated individuals. And so I know on the slide it says, if county FSP is full, slots will be added. So one, is it full? I think it's probably a question for the county. One, is it full? And then two, if it is, then what triggers like the next step to open more FSP's? So yeah, the FSP's, we will continue to expand as they fill up it. It's not full at this point. We do amendments to our contract. So we have a, in the county we do pooled contracts with our providers. We would increase the contract amount to that provider to account for the number of additional slots that we would add for those programs. So we do break it down by like there's FSPs for adults, for justice involved, for youth. So we split those out. So there are different provider contracts, but we would just increase that amount. God, so the county has capacity right now. Yes. And so, okay. So I think keep us posted for a Department of Community Response, you know, if, I mean, we're helping and we're working with the county, how do we fill up all those slots so that we can continue helping more people? Yeah, and I know that's something even with, I will say with Prop 1, we're looking at a revamp of our FSP program. There are some models that we look at like a tiered program, kind of an FSP light and then a full scope FSP that we're exploring. I think Councilor Maple mentioned the state's transparency portal. If you look at the number of FSP slots, Sacramento actually has some of the most in the state, even before factoring in adjustments for population. And so we feel the number of FSPs slots we have is pretty good. But again, if we see an increase in need, we definitely make those adjustments, but also recognizing just because someone's not in an FSP, they still have access to housing support dollars. They're still able to access case management services, substance use behavior health services. So it really does track down to the needs of that particular individual, whether an FSP is appropriate. And I do want to acknowledge the county has its hands full with the implementation of CareE Court Senate Bill 43, Prop 36, and just the different programs that you guys have. So I do want to acknowledge you and you need me. You're shaped that. It's for our people. Never told them behavioral health. Right. You're working on. And I know our city attorney's office has filed a few CARE Court petitions. And so we're waiting to three. Yeah. So we're waiting to hear back. We're not going to hear back. So just for everyone here, once the city attorney's office submits those petitions, it gets sent. and so we're waiting to be sold three. Yeah, so we're waiting to hear back. Well, actually, we're not going to hear back. So just for everyone here, once the city attorney's office submits those petitions, it gets sent to the courts. And then we don't hear back, and we're not in the loop of that correct city attorney. OK, so I don't know if there's a way for the county to support us in this so that we can figure out what that process looks like. It might even be out of your hands. I'm not here. Let me explore that because part of it's a privacy issue. Like, given when board members ask me for a status update, sometimes I'll give them aggregate information as opposed to specific information about that individual unless there's a release of information. But I'll go back to my team to see if there's a way we can, at least, provide any updates on in aggregate of the ones that you've submitted kind of where they, what the disposition was. Yeah, if I may count some of them. I think we're really looking at public information available based on the court proceedings. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be wonderful just because I know our Department of Community Response, our Police Department, Fire Department, they know who the frequent users of our emergency rooms are. Like they know who is in need of support services. And so for us to figure out what's the best process for us to navigate this would be incredibly helpful. Whatever information you can share with our city attorney in DCR, I think would be great for us as we move forward on these policies. And then I do have a question probably for you or Miss Halcombe. The county, how is it going to be using the rest of the 5.6 million that former assembly member now mayor McCarty allocated to the county? Good afternoon Emily Halcombe, the Department of Homeless Services and Housing in Sacramento County. And so we went, we've gone back to the board and it's been fully allocated about four weeks after the meeting that you attended, Councilor Tallah Montaise, we went back. The balance was allocated to three projects. One was the Joshua's House project. The second one was the Watt Avenue campus that we're under construction and the balance and recognition of sort of budget shortfalls and dependency on one time funding we decided to commit to ongoing operations of some of the programs that had previously been committed. And I sent a summary to the mayor's staff and I apologize I'm happy to send it to you as well if that would be helpful of all the activities that have been funded. Yeah, that'd be incredibly helpful. I'll do that. What I did was different. So I just, I mean, keeping the loop and having the city and county truly be a partnership is so important. You know, homeless, this is impacting all of us. So if you can send me that memo, I'd appreciate it. I'll do that. And that's about it. Okay. Thank you. And I just want to note that this partnership agreement is a starting point. It's a foundation, but it's not good enough for the general public. We. Thank you. And I just want to note that this partnership agreement is a starting point. It's a foundation, but it's not good enough for the general public. We've got to continue doing more. We've got to continue pushing for more. And we've got to continue working together collectively as partners. Whether it's the city and the county leadership, SHRA, SACCEPS forward, anyone and everyone that touches homelessness needs to be engaged in these conversations. Because that's what the public expects from us. Like Council Member Maple, she screams and shouts it, we need a JPA. I joint powers authority, and I'm 100% in line with that. Because homelessness is everyone's issue. It's everyone's number one issue in the Sacramento region, and people don't know lines, it's district this, county property here. People don't know that people move around Sacramento and expect us to work together. So we as government leaders need to do better on that and I think doing a joint powers authority is so important and something that I look forward to supporting and continuing to scream and shout to support my colleague on that. And I do want to know that the city of Sacramento is in the county limits. And so I'm happy that we're working together and we're going to continue providing services to people here. We have a budget deficit here at the city of Sacramento. We're getting less and half funds. And so that is important. And I mean, it's detrimental to the city. And I don't want to be able to like, I don't want to have to start stop supporting homeless programs because of the lack of funding that we have. And so I look forward to seeing how we work together to navigate that, whether it's us applying for Cal-Aimed Doll dollars, working with the county to help supplement some of these programs. We need to sustain our budget, but also help people at the same time. Thank you. Thank you. Mayor Pro Temgara. Great, thank you very much, Mayor. First, I wanted to extend my gratitude to Brian and his team and also our county partners on the progress that we've made. And what we are today in the working relationship between the city and the county, one, I don't disagree at all. And I do believe that a more formalized process is important because homelessness and the effect of homelessness, particularly for those of us who have districts that are in between city and county and another city jurisdiction, see those effects. And housing issue is also a regional issue as well. So it's not a jurisdictional issue, but it's a regional issue. But I will say that, you know, and I agree if we can get a joint powers authority put together, that would be, that would, I think, help that way. But the only two ways, frankly, that you can do that is through voluntary agreement between other jurisdictions or the legislature imposing that on us. I think that if the only way we're going to achieve that is by the success of the city and county's partnership agreement. When other folks see, and other jurisdictions see that we actually have made a significant effect, then we're actually going to be able to move in that process. Either through the MOU process to be a created JPA or through the legislative process to impose a JPA, one or the other. And so that brings me to, I think this point here, that this is a legally binding agreement. It's a five-year agreement and that this council and the county voted on with the option to reauthorize for another five years. And so we're at the beginning of year three on this. And I have to say that where we are right now is very positive. I think there were a lot of pessimists on year one when we first started, whether this would even last a year. And where we are today, we've learned a lot. We've all of us have also recognized where our strengths and our weaknesses are as a jurisdiction. And that's helped us better realign how we look at providing the best service. I mean, I recall the very vocal disagreement about how we should introduce behavioral services. and what we've learned and our strategy of being able to house people and then meet them at a place where they have stability and introduce behavioral services has been much far much more productive than was when we were going to encampment after encampment and trying to track people who needed that help and support down. So I think that's the benefit there. But we are at year three and I feel very optimistic about our ability to do more with this partnership. And so I would hope that our council and the county look at revisiting these points. Some of these points are very outdated in the last two years because we had a different point of view at that time. I think our assumptions were different at that time. And our budget assumptions are also different today as well. So I do think that one thing that I'd like to make sure that the city and the county do is go back through on these points and start re-evaluating our benchmark goals. And so if we looked at the training section, we went from yellow and that remember when we had red dots, red dots to yellow to green dots. Now that we're at green dots, we should be thinking about, okay, how do we move back to, let's reevaluate, is that a valued point in today's or should we re-evaluate those benchmarks for our agreement? There's no question that I think Councilmember Dickinson brought it up here that this allowed us to do a lot more cross-training, allowed us to better find methods to coordinate together. And I think those pieces should be highlighted and elevated more. Because for a long time, there was definitely a lot more finger pointing on both sides on this issue. And now there's an acknowledgement of things saying, look, we have valid concerns for each other's responsibility. But what is the best tool to help us move forward? One of the key things that I do want to dive in deeper and if not, then I'd like to make sure that Mr. Mayor that we at least express our concern when the care court comes back for evaluation at the legislature is the ability for petitioners accountability. And since the city can be a petitioner, then we should have the ability to be able to know or track at least the progress of that petition on the care courts. And that's less of the partnership agreement. on back to the partnership agreement for the case of sobering centers. I'm glad that we're working well on the well space campus as a place. But early on in the discussion we had brought up, let's make sure we address establishing a very reliable sobering center in the city limits. And that's in the partnership agreement that we wanted one within the city limits. But I do remember the conversation occurring about another sobering center or other sobering centers in the county. And particularly on the east end of the county. and the comment was made during the meeting that, you know, we shouldn't have a scenario where someone in full sum or orange veil is transported to downtown Sacramento when they're in the need of a sobering center. And so maybe that is a question for us to dive into what how the county is looking at those needs, because I'm sure there are folks on the east end of the county that would mean those services. The other piece, I think that was accountability on that piece. A lot of my comments actually were asked, our questions were put up by my colleagues here. I will say that the next piece that I'd like to make sure is we get an understanding or SB 43 and capacity is going to affect us. I think Councillor Dickinson brought that up and making sure how the city is going to execute. It's authority under SB 43. And then finally, I think the bigger concern that we, that I worry about, which I mentioned earlier was, if have funding is going to shift or change, and I know we don't know that conversation until June or the budget happens. But we should be very engaged as a united city and county on if we're going to be showing progress. And we want other cities to join in on this. If there is any skepticism on the ability to actually execute these programs, then that's going to affect our ability to have other partners, because the goal should be is that every city join in into this same legally binding agreement, whether it's through a joint powers authority, whether it's through a legal MOU as in this case. But my worry here is that we need to be much more vocal about making sure that if we're going to have these successful, that they're financially successful. Lastly, one of the key things, and I want to highlight again, I agree on the prevention side. Now the prevention side happens by addressing the housing issue. And one of the key things that the partnership agreement was the beginning conversation on the affordable housing side. And that's been the responsibility of our housing authority. And so making sure that on the partnership agreement, the evolution of what our expectation is on prevention needs to be now worked out and be much more a bigger point. I think the urgency in the development of the agreement was addressing the significantly high number of large encampments of people who needed services and I think that this is a time for us not to be re-evaluating all of those pieces in the agreement to have a better outcome. So those are some thoughts there Mayor and I just appreciate everyone's diligent work and working together and evolving together on what is successful and what isn't. And acknowledging those practices that probably weren't as helpful. So thank you Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Council Member. I have some comments and some directions. I don't have any questions, but I guess the big picture is thank you for the update in the report. So clearly the number one issue that the people of Sacramento want us to address is homelessness. No matter where I've gone as mayor for the past three months or for the past year, the campaign this was clearly was clearly the number one issue wherever I was. And one of the key issues to address this was more cooperation. And the public realizes that these issues don't have boundaries, city nor county, so all levels of government. But especially the city and the county, they saw too much finger pointing. So I want to applaud the council and our prior mayor for working with the county and coming up with ideas how we can work together because at the end of the day, we're all in these issues together. So with that, you know, certainly we've had extensive touches. It's mind boggling as council members Dickinson, Maple and Kaplan mentioned the amount of touches that you've made versus the amount of people that we have in the system. So it sounds like we almost have a real life point in time count with a census as far as who's there. And maybe not everybody, but having individuals 2,000 plus and 17 touches per We we know who a lot of these people are especially the ones who most interact with with our city programs So that leads to the real issue is where do people go? You know where do people go? So one thing I do want to highlight is since the city and the county started talking about this You know we've opened a thousand more bets with the city and the county started talking about this, we've opened 1,000 more bets with the city and county combined. So we've opened roughly 300 in the past several months. We're on track to open 300 more with the 100 in Roseville Road plus the additional capacity in Stockton Boulevard. So I think that's a positive notion. With that, we certainly have a lot to do. More cooperation is key, I 100% concur with what Councilmember Maple talked about having structured opportunities for us to talk together. Not just us in the county, I think it's, you know, El Groveve, Rancho could over other jurisdictions because these issues don't have boundaries. I stood by the idea to create this through legislation last year. The issue doesn't go away. I know there are other ideas. We're going to start having structured conversations with county board of supervisors and council members on this. And with that, one idea that I want to direct staff with is, we haven't really talked about too much tonight, is SHRA, that's a body that we all serve on together. I know that the county has some ideas as far as what the future of this looks like. They're going to discuss this this week or next week or very soon. So I think it's a timely topic how we work better on the two issues housing and homelessness which are tied together, tied together. So I'd like to direct city staff to better work with the county and the city and talking about new approaches and coordinate ways and a review of the structure, function and role of SHRA and how it relates to housing and homelessness. And they can include but not be limited to programs at SHRA Curly and Ministers, funding that comes down from the state, federal and even our local money. Certainly our vouchers and public housing are piece of the puzzle. And those are key to addressing housing homelessness, but just wanted to give a direction there. I also, I appreciate that we jump in a little bit about this every week a bit more, but we're not all there yet. So on the budget, we started talking about this with the update for HAP. When we talked about the streets to housing program in District 2 on the Northern Park, Northern Bike Parkway, we talked a bit about this, but I would like to have a more comprehensive approach. So I'm going to agenda a full discussion on this in the coming weeks about homelessness and what we are doing. So really focus on three issues. Number one, where we are. We're at, certainly we can have Sacramento steps forward, give us their latest briefing on the point in time count as far as the numbers. And kind of what you've done week after week, Mr. Pedro, is tell us what we're doing. We're the sites that we have online right now, roughly 1600, including the 600 new ones. We're the money comes from who are nonprofit partners are that provide services at these sites these sites just lay it out there What are we doing today and then the number three thing in the most important piece of that discussion? I had him is where do we go from here? I know you've touched on this multiple times as How you said you're trying to be a little bit cheap less as important your you know This is our money our taxpayer money how we be more efficient and effective? And we know we've asked our auditor to come up with some findings to analyze which programs have the biggest results. Some have 60% success rate, some have 30. So which ones are working and come back with ideas as far as how we can double down on the ones that provide the biggest outcome, but also how we can prioritize and maximize our dollar because we need to stretch it a bit further. So that will be coming in a few weeks. I did want to note that we had multiple comments and Mr. Dickinson alluded to this on the Roseville roadside. It's certainly in your district but it's a site for the entire City of Sacramento. So I've been out there. I've seen the first hand, the issues, and so I know that you are working on a better access route for people to leave the property, because literally the light rail station, you can literally throw a rock to it from the backfets, and to walk around, doesn't seem logical. And I know that we're just about there having a more direct route even though we can't go through the CalTrans property on the back. And I think you kind of said this by just want to reiterate that those RVs that we got during the 2020 during COVID that we had at CalExpo, I was there when the state unveiled them and we had people being in them for a temporary basis and then they sat in the courtyard up north for a couple of years and so they're out there, they're in their lifeline and what you're saying is we're going to phase those out and put in the modular tiny homes which I saw firsthand which people appreciate more, more dignity for individuals to store their stuff, work better than the congregate places, and I think is the right way. So in the number of months, you're going to swap out those RVs and have in more permanent tiny homes, which are more practical for us and more beneficial to the residents out there. So thank you for that update. And then lastly, I just wanted the council and the public to know that Mr. Pedro is a very humble individual, but he's excited to announce that after 41 years, this weekend he's retiring from his military service with the United States government and the Air Force. And so be able to dedicate even more time to the issue of the day. So thank you for your service. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you for your service and you're doing a great job and we look forward to your continued effort on behalf of the City of Sacramento and literally addressing the issue of the day. you're an anonymous to most people in the city of Sacramento, but if you ask the people of Sacramento what's one issue they want progress on to make it better not worse, but to have real progress this is the issue. And so you're the person behind the scenes helping make it happen. So we're counting on you. Thank you. Thank you. And with that, this is a receive and file. We have one more council member of Punch Up. Mr. Plyckman. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So I got to order two quick things. One, I just want to say thank you both to the county staff and the city staff for being here today. I think one of the things that hasn't gotten well reported over the years that we've been building this partnership is just how productive and positive the working relationship is between city and county staff and I just wanted to say thank you again for everything that you're all doing to serve all of our citizens. And then I wanted to echo the mayor's comment about the need to identify opportunities to build more affordable housing. Obviously that's a key area of opportunities. So if there's anything that we can do to improve or enhance or change our governance model around that, I'm very much interested in supporting that direction and working in that direction. Thank you. Okay, thank you. That was a receiving file item. Next item is item 16, Sacramento Valley Station Governance Operations Preliminary Recommendations. Good afternoon, member Cardi and members of the City Council. I'm Lucinda Wilcox the Assistant Public Works Director. And we're here today to talk about the next steps for the Sacramento Valley Station. And a few of you might recall that about 20 years ago, this facility was in serious trouble. It was still owned by Union Pacific. The station was in serious disrepair. Didn't have heating, didn't have cooling, didn't have fire suppression. A lot of it was blocked off from public access, and passenger rail was really suffering. And the region came together and took action, and through that action, the city was able to purchase about 30 acres of land, which included this facility. And by leveraging our measure $8, we have invested hundreds of millions of dollars in infrastructure and renovation efforts at the facility and the surrounding district. And Pastor Rael is doing a lot better. It's really serving hundreds of thousands of trips and this is really truly a regional facility. But at this point, with the crisis averted, the facilities kind of got out of people's minds. But we feel that we're really at a crossroads again and to continue the evolution and realize the opportunity of this facility. We think we need to take some additional steps. Some here I want to introduce Greg Taylor, who's our architect, who's been managing the project and has been instrumental in both increasing operations the station by working with our partners and bringing in a tremendous amount of grant funds to support our efforts. Thank you, Lucinda. Mayor and council members, thank you for this opportunity to brief you on our progress in evaluating governance options for the Sacramento Valley Station. The station is at a crossroads and as Lucinda said, it's really on the threshold in its development potential as a city and regional asset. Having the right government structure will be critical to its future success. Before we get into the government's propositions that we want to bring before you, I'd like to begin with a brief background on what the city has accomplished and through the city's leadership has transformed the station to one of the most successful rail stations in the west. Going back as early as 1996 the city led the vision for what the station could become with the capital quarter joint powers board, regional transit and union-specific railroad the city drafted a report that outlined the objectives to redefine the historic station as a true intermodal station. In the early 2000s, preliminary planning began for the site and when the first County Measure A was approved by the voters, the measure specified funding for the Sacramento Intermodal Transportation Facility. In 2006, coinciding with the city's acquisition of the station from the railroad and MOU Between the county and Sakartee to quote demonstrating the commitment and partnership was signed Also in this year the city embarked on a 11 year two phase improvement plan for Over a hundred and thirty million dollars of new improvements and station renovation and now more closer to our current date in 2020, the benefits of a four-year process to develop this Sacramento Valley Station area plan that went before Council in 2021. The city has received a total of $77 million in four consecutive rounds of the Transit and Intercity Rail Capital Program, sponsored by CalSTA, as TERSIP through partner applications with the Capital Code of JPA. So I just have a couple slides here on these past projects to familiarize yourself for the public what has been accomplished. Phase one, the track relocation of $82.5 million. Move the rail track facilities, built new passenger facilities, improved safety by separating the tracks from the passengers by the underground tunnel and improved overall rail operations. That concluded in 2012. Overlapping with that in 2012 through 2017, we focus on what we as defined as phase two to renovate the station. These are, I'll have two slides here on the before and afters of the station, which transform the station into a full functioning center for Amtrak and also brought least space to the city and also some small retail opportunities on the ground floor. And here's the interior and maybe of many of you have seen the interior main way to room there on the lower right. So the station as I mentioned is one of the highest performing in the nation. on the on the Capitol corridor, the station out performs the two next highest in Davis and Emoryville by factored more than two to one. This year, they're expecting to be close to a million passengers. Capitol corridor and the San Joaquin's, which both served the station, are ranked 4 and 6 nationwide and behind the Pacific Surf Liner and Southern California ranked number one for all the state-supported services. And overall, the station is ranked the levantth highest Amtrak ridership in the US as of 2023. Plan service expansions in 2025 include for the capital quarter increasing four additional trains in the San Joaquin at two additional trains coming this year. And all this is in the context of what we were here locally building with our new athletic events opportunities, the central shops entertainment and the rail yards that will bring local place making and opportunities for people to come to the local downtown region but also expand access into the Bay Area and Central Valley through these commuter operations. And this slide I think really captures that potential where the SVS as we call it, Sacramento Valley Station sits in the middle of all these just amazing and development opportunities in creating the city around We are really uniquely positioned nationwide to have the ability to create a new expanded station within the area of a currently developing brownfield site that doesn't happen everywhere in this country and it's real opportunity that we have and also the connections to our adjacent important districts around the site. So, our preliminary recommendations that would like to take before you has come with the work over the past year with our consultant team of WSP and city staff through committees that are formed meeting on monthly basis to bring you these preliminary recommendations. But first we should just ask the question, why look at governance? The city, while the city has been very successful, is demonstrated in delivering these first two large capital improvements. The third phase is unique challenge. The focus of the third phase is to greatly expand the transit operations integrated with land development. At present, however, the city is struggling to keep up with the current operations and maintenance of the current station. We've had great success in capital improvements. Our operations funding is another matter. It's been a struggle. The city does not have direct access to rail and transit funds. The $77 million in state funds was made only possible through the partnership with the capital corridor that and that future opportunities have limitations going forward. City taxpayers through the general fund covers a majority of the operations and maintenance of the station today for what is a regional facility. Current measure aid does not cover operations funding. And we have found that through our research, other entities, other governing agencies that have a single focus on the station are geared and set up for more success. So with a structure that is focused on the station, that can be singly focused on the new station, new opportunities can present themselves. Our research found that focused governance structures are more agile and secure in funding for multiple sources and do not rely solely on grants but engage the private sector and find a broader source of revenue sources. Their independence can leverage opportunities beyond what the municipal model can deliver. The other driving point was the need for a structure that had a singular focus on building a transit-oriented district where the ability to leverage public-private developments towards funding, the operations and maintenance of the transit-oriented district is is paramount. So the area plan to the the governance plan of that model that we had had a mission and that was defined as creating a government structure that can achieve a vision of the facility and district as a regional asset. The goals are that it is a place for people, it is vibrant, that there is an experience that also connects, that is an experience and an of itself, and that it also connects people to the events and activities in the rail yard, stoka, waterfront, and all those surrounding activity areas. And that is a mobility hub that promotes increasing equality in transportation, connecting people throughout the Sacramento region in Northern California. So this is the area that would be under the governance within the Sacramento area plan. And the transit facilities that are located in the plan are shown in purple. The yellow are development opportunities set forth in the plan and public open space outline there in green. We looked at a number of case studies throughout the country, stations larger and some smaller about the size of our own. And what we found is that no other city, municipality, manages a major regional transportation facility like this on its own and it therefore relies on partner agencies that best fit the particulars of each station. This ranges from dedicated county authorities to transit-oriented JPAs, nonprofits, and transit agencies in and of themselves. Working through a series of workshops with city staff, we identified two baseline assumptions of independence and a need for partners which the government structure should meet. These three alternatives that we show here met those thresholds. They are not meant to be mutually exclusive. They could transition from one entity to another. And also multiple entities could coexist and serve specific purposes. Consensus for a special district as the strongest model, consensus was for a special district as the strongest model, but it relies on that does require a lot of dedicated effort to set up and implement. The nonprofit corporation provides the most flexibility and can be formed relatively quickly and be in the independent face of the district. The JPA as a lead structure would not accomplish all of our objectives but could coexist under the nonprofit for specific purposes if needed. So examples include Washington DC station is governed by nonprofit structure. Denver Union station used a nonprofit to great success in its early formation. And San Diego has long had the Center City Development Corporation, which is a nonprofit structure as well. So our recommended steps here are the phase one for forming a nonprofit corporation. In the next two years, there would be a, our slides are kind of, the fonts are kind of messed up there but we can still read it. The entity formation would begin over to your process as an independent project focus organization as the face of the station and as I said best able to be set that unique brand and visualize what the SVS can become. It would proceed with development and starting to take over the development projects that we have funding for and move forward towards full build out and operations. But within that first two years would also be the charge of the nonprofit is to actually do the due diligence to investigate the special district and see if it is a viable alternative and take that forward in a vote That would determine whether the Organization move forward with the special district or continue as a nonprofit corporation So what we see before you today where we're at is we're still in an analysis phase We have this recommendation, but we still doing diligence. We will be briefing and incorporating our feedback from our partners to redefine the recommendation. We'll explore the viability of the recommended alternative, the outreach and implementation planning, working with identified partner agencies and continuing to evaluate funding sources and strategies. and we plan to return to council with final recommendation by the end of the year. Today what we ask is that we have a few questions for you that and others we entertain questions from you as well of course. But we wanted to understand what do you think we should consider as we explore these alternatives? Which of the cities roll be in the future of the station? And how would the city council or individual members of council like to be involved in the ongoing partner discussions? So with that, I'm concludes my presentation. I'd be glad to take questions. Councillor Dicconson. Oh, public first. Okay, we have public. Yeah, okay. I'm glad it. Mayor, I don't have any speakers on this agenda. I'd like to comment. Councillor Members, Councillor Dicconson. Thank you, Mayor. And I'd like to thank you for the presentation and Lucinda, you know,inda you know looking at your history seem to recall there might have been a supervisor who's a little bit involved in that right that agreement between the county and the city and the CCJPA back in 2006. You know I think what's been done and illustrated in the slides you showed with the station has been remarkable. I think probably the only error that was made was probably naming the passageway for Steve Cohn. But outside of that, I think it all looks pretty pretty good. You and it's Steve, I said that by the way. I meant to invite him today, I'm sorry. But in any case, I don't have questions, but I do have a thought or two which may not surprise you. I do think the development corporation, or you call it on profit corporation, I would call it a development corporation is the optimal direction to take because if you go, I mean, you don't have to go back to the slide, but because there are development opportunities within the envelope of what we think of as the SPS property or site. It seems to me that a development corporation is the best approach to take advantage of those development opportunities. It's a form and in and of itself, that's not governance. I don't think that's more directed at how you optimize the use of the property for value capture for the purpose of helping to finance the public improvements to the property. And that's really where we find ourselves. I mean, hopefully there will continue to be funding available through Turship and other avenues through SB1 and other things that come along as we continue to move into the future. Hopefully, if not right now, there will be a day once again, federal funding is robust to support Amtrak and intercity rail investment and improvement. But I think the success that we see of some of those examples you pointed out such as Washington, Denver, other places is they've taken advantage of the development opportunity of the site itself. And that has been manifested both within the walls, so retail opportunity, I mean if you look at Union Station, Washington, or you look at Denver to crime examples. I mean, they've taken advantage of retail opportunities within the walls of the structure. To some extent, these locations you've talked about have taken advantage of development opportunities that are part again of the surrounding area. And I think it's a development corporation or nonprofit corporation as you've described it that creates the greatest potential to realize a return and to generate the funding that we need to augment whatever we get in the way of public resources. And I hope there will be another transportation measure locally and that it will in fact include a specific allocation or recognition of investment in Sacramento Valley Station because as you point out quite rightly, it's a regional asset. It's unrealistic and my estimation to think that surrounding governments as governmental units are going to put a lot of money into the station. Folks take advantage of it, but the response is yeah, and they come and spend their money and contribute sales tax to the City of Sacramento and they come and they sit in an office in the City of Sacramento next to the station if they go there or they go to attractions, they go to the theater, whatever it is. So the City of Sacramento is the one that's realizing the return in terms of public revenue from that. We're not realizing it in winters or in Auburn, and so on. So, I mean, just realistically, having been around this block a few times, I think it's wiser to focus on how they can contribute in a way that allows them to be part of the fabric, but doesn't really directly say, okay, in order to do that, you got to bring your checkbook to the table. Maybe they bring in a different way. Maybe they bring it through participation in the CCJPA or the San Joaquins. I don't know if Amtrak has been a partner in any of these station development efforts around the country, But I mean maybe we talked to Amtrak about being a part of this. Certainly in my estimation we ought to be talking to the state of California. Cal Transrail Division and beyond and up. Yeah, we are. For sure. So I think we'd have significant interest in being part of the development corporation. And then the governance side of that obviously is determined by who becomes the board and what's the designation of responsibilities and authority for the board. In that regard, I would think a JPA is at least going to be quicker, may not be better in all regards, all respects, but if you want to become a special district, you got to go through the legislature. So if you want to do something sooner rather than later, stay away from the white big building over there. And again, some of us have some experience and how long it takes you to get through that building. Just a little, just a little, maybe it's John to us. I don't know about that. But a JPA obviously is the, a meeting of the willing. And so again, I think we have people who would be partners. I think RT would be certainly be a partner, as well as some of the others I've mentioned. So I'm excited by the prospect. People do not understand some of the things that were the 11th most heavily used Amtrak station in the country. We've slipped a little bit with the capital corridor and the Samoquins. They used to be the second and fifth most heavily used intercity rail services in the country. Now we're fourth and sixth but we're going to be back up. People don't realize that Californians do take the train and that's only going to increase over time for a whole host of reasons. So I'm very bullish on this in case you can't tell. I'm excited about what we can do there have been obviously for a long time. I'd like to be very much involved as you're thinking about the direction you want to take. And I think that we have great opportunities to put together something that is both regional in nature but also adapt and able to be nimble. Thanks, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Moura Plucky-Bong? I'd like to associate myself with all of those comments except for the one about the tunnel. I think this council will find the strong support for transit for trains. Anything we can do to support that effort. Obviously we're going to need to go back out to the voters for another measure A. I'm looking forward to supporting that work. Thank you for bringing this forward and for working on this for all these years. I can't wait to see the San Joaquin line and all these lines coming through our city and providing greater access at a more reliable and lower cost. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, Councillor McGherr. Yeah, thank you. One, I completely agree with Councillor Dickinson on the need to look at this as a more of a development corporation, looking at it holistically and including all of those partners. And I'm reminded of the transit oriented district that we created on 65th Street when that perspective of the entire area where it used to be just the light rail stop and then a bunch of warehouses. And that was just the, it was like the works the easiest and closest way to put a light rail station all right there. But there was nothing there that was successful. And all those Jackson property warehouses that were abandoned now are a hotel and arrive favors Jim and now housing that we're doing there. And back then, Councilmember McCarty appointed me to the 65th Street RAC to look at those conversations. But the focus was around the, you know, how do we combine all those interests? I think where the gap was on that time, it was, oh, well, this is the RT property and that's all we do at the RT property. And I think this is an opportunity to learn from that, I think, narrow window, you know, and say, how do we look at that entire facility being fully encompassed with services? I mean, when you're walking down the Steve Cone walkway, there's all this open space that could be actually something that could be bringing in revenue generation or make it an interest for people to use it more. And some of us used to use it a lot to go see the Raiders games very regularly. And what a great experience that was. And even this right now with the opportunity for kids to be able to use it to join their families and take advantage of that. But it doesn't provide that amenity. So one thing, yes, it should be, I think in a form that looks at all of those components, one message that I hope does not get lost. It is a regional asset. So in the development of the governance structure and in the development of how we move forward, We need to make sure that we're thinking about how does it become a regional asset? And how does it get recognized as a regional asset? And not just a city of Sacramento property because that I think is going to be the success of it, is if we can think about that. I don't know what the solution to that is. I know that when we looked at measure B and measure A and measure A, you know, I don't want to call it A plus by A, the next day that failed on the ballot, you know, we, at that point there was a group of us that recognized, hey, this is a regional asset and we're going to put this, the amount of money off the top to sure that we support that. So in the development of how we look at the government structure and we need to make sure that that's a guiding principle on that piece. Second, I mean the recognition that we're not a transit agency so we can't apply for a lot of those transit dollars. I think something of urgency is important in figuring out whether it's capital corridor or what other agency can do that. I almost feel that depending on the urgency for access to grants, there's nothing I think wrong with having a two-step process. Say, you know, a joint powers authority or another longer term governance structure or something if there's the immediate to get something moving with the process of, okay, this is how the final structure should look at, maybe we look at those processes. So that would be my say. But I think my guiding thing is really we have to figure out how to make this one financially sustainable in the long run. When I go visit my family in Mexico City, all of the stations there are linked with small businesses. They're linked with services that people use on a regular basis. When you think about, hey, I got to, in the morning, you get your coffee, you're the cleaners, or the, you know, or in your kids. So those three things, like if you're not involving and those in one way or another then it's just becomes a stop. And I think it's got to be more than just a stop. So thank you Mr. Mayor. Thank you Councillor Recapplin. Thank you Mayor. Can I have staff put up the last slide that says the questions that we need to answer? because I want to make sure that that's that's focused in pre-minute of direction that we need to answer. Because I want to make sure that's focused in pre-minute of direction that we're being asked to answer. The next steps, I'm sorry. Yeah, the next steps. The next question. Yes. That one, thank you. I will agree we need to form some sort of governance structure. I think I'm in alignment with most of my colleagues, but I want to be thoughtful. But I hear we need to do something right away. But if that doing something right away means maybe we partner with an organization if it's because we need grants or it's because we're potentially missing out on money. But I want to be thoughtful because once you set up a new government structure, that's the government structure you're set with. So whether the right thing is a JPA something else, I want to be thoughtful in how do we do the business improvement district but also recognize like councilmember getta said it's a regional amenity so how much should the region be involved as well as improving the rail yards and to the success of the rail yards but understanding the success of the governance structure so what does that look like in its best form I want to be thoughtful, but also be aware if we need to partner with another organization because we can't be the author of getting grants or funding that we have that process set up as we have that conversation. But I think what really guides us and I want to think about it is what is our mission and what is our vision for this, and then what structure best allows us to implement that vision and that mission, because that will guide the purpose and everything to make it a success. And I trust those of you who've done the work and see what other organizations have done across the United States and the structure that they've set it up, what closely aligns mostly with Sacramento, I think is the best of what we should look at. Knowing that as we do this, don't forget that transit moves people, but we also need to invest in the transit-oriented development to make it so that people can live, work, and play within an area of walking distance, biking distance. Thank you. Council Member Maple. Thank you, Mayor. I agree with a lot of my colleagues have said. I have a couple questions. One is around the JPA idea. Do you have a sense, and this is asking your opinion more so, but do you have a sense of the likelihood of us being able to establish something like a JPA? Do you see that as being a difficult path given the city's ownership in it, who would be the partners? Well, I think what we've found, we see that there may be an opportunity for a JPA to exist within the development or nonprofit corporation. The JPA's tend to seem to work best if they're kind of mutually aligned like the transportation authorities and the transportation running the transportation entity of this transit-oriented development would be a key way for a JPA to work together for other interests. If you bring a JPA into a structure that has multiple interests, development, transit, these other things, I think that's a more difficult structure for the JPA to function well under. You're bringing, everybody has their interests that come into the table in the JPA, whereas we found the nonprofit corporation setting that as a, as an entity that relies, would be made up of experts that help develop their different aspects of the station, not necessarily elected officials, pardon me, but for that reason, to really look at the expertise that would guide the station and would be a way to move forward the most expeditiously with the best results. So as I said, we use that Venn diagram. There's not, there is a plane of opportunity for these three structures to coexist in some form. And we really think that if we can get to the special district over time, that funding security would be the ultimate game, but we know that that is a very high hurdle. And that's why I think the theme here is we want to get going and not wait for that. So we want to establish a structure to start us on our way in our journey and develop this as we go. Okay, that makes sense. And in that vein, I would be supportive of exploring structures that allow you to move quickly and nemly because things are going to change. I also had a question about how this kind of coordinates or intermixes with the Realtards Project in general. Of course, we know that there's a lot more happening in the space surrounding just this piece of land. And if we're thinking about all that in combination. In the Realtards Project, it's helping. Yes. Well, for one, I believe we're scheduled in May for the term sheet coming forward that the two properties that would go a lot 40 and lot 44 would be a senate there shown on the diagram be a significant asset for the station for the development corporation to build on for that funding. But we're also we have three projects right now working with downtown reality arts partnership that we received funding for for Terce. This summer will be starting, they'll be starting the construction of a new entrance from the Stevecomb passageway into the the the the central shops plaza district that's been under construction. So that was Terce up money back in 2020. So we're looking forward to that. We have a segment of Fifth Street that was funded that will allow our regional bus connector routes to more efficiently Access the station via fifth street to the to the freeway that will be that's coming to you next month for our construction agreement and then we just recently in 2024 round Received four million dollars towards construction to complete the extension of Birkett Street down from to the mouth of our tunnel that we built in 2012 that has never been open for pedestrian bikes because it didn't have a connection to the public way. And that will also serve as the end of route turnaround for SACRT. We're expanding the cul-de-sac there so their buses can turn around layover,, have a restaurant facility dedicated to the drivers and that serves the rail yards region Kaiser for drop off there. So we are definitely integrated all the way through with the rail yards. I'd love to hear it. Other projects on the work. On the right. It's been a lot of really great work by the team. I just want to thank you for that too. The entire city team for this because it's, they're were clearly collaborating with all these partners. It's just, it's a lot of work in the making and one of the, the last questions I have is around, I think this is capital quarter and Amtrak. Do they currently pay the city anything in order to use this space? No, no, it's not set up that way. They, they, they, they, amtrak is the, says people don't understand this generally. Amtrak is the, since people don't understand this generally, Amtrak owns the trains that go interstate, that go through our station, the Zephyr and the Coast Starlight. Those are Amtrak operated, owned and operated trains. The state owns all the rail equipment for the capital quarters in the San Joaquin's and they hire the contract with the Amtrak to run the service. So it's a state operated. But we hold, we inherited the lease when we acquired the station in 20 2006 that Amtrak is the prime tenant and works out of the station. And their lease terminates the first round in 2026 but they have three five year options to 2041 that came with that position. Thank you for that background and I think it's helpful for the public to understand all of that. I just really broadly I think you know this is there's a lot of history this space too, and that's actually one of my favorite parts about it. I think this is probably one of the, generally speaking, the rail yards is one of the largest, you know, in full projects that's in the United States of America that's left to do, and it's got an amazing connection to our history. It's determinists of the Transcontinental Railroad, and I think it's one of the best investments we could be doing is thinking about this holistically as Council Member Kaplan mentioned, thinking about in terms of how can we connect to housing, transit or your development, to biking, and especially to our transit infrastructure so that people can get around. And so this is all connected and connected in my mind. And so just really appreciate the work. And I want to say that now that our colleague, Mr. Dickinson, is serving as the representative in the the Capitol Court or JPA through Sakharchi, I think there might be some opportunities for their conversations about how that partnership can work as we continue for it, but just really appreciate it. And I think my comments would be centered around how can we move quickly and in-bally to create a structure. Thank you. Thank you. Back to Council Member Dickinson.inson. The conversation reminded me that for those of you who may not know or recall, light rail was originally constructed through a JPA, which was the city of Sacramento, the county of Sacramento, Sacramento Regional Transit in the state of California, the Sacramento Transit Development Agency. So I I mean, it's not as if we don't have something of a model right here in our own backyard of putting together an entity. Now that obviously was for development of the line itself, not the development associated with it, but it's something that we should keep in mind, think as you move ahead with this. Thanks. Yes, thank you. Just some perspective and some insight here. So I forget a lot of things in this world but I remember vividly sitting over there in Mr. Gareth's seat 19 years ago talking about this and having some of our same city staff here and thinking this is imminent, imminent. And in my head, I had, you been recently to, at that time to, I think our first captive cap delegation went to Union Station and be like, oh, we can have this in a couple years and certainly been to downtown LA and seen Union Station there in New York City and other cities and thought this was just right around the corner. So one, it takes time. And we had serious infrastructure issues, you know, legacy impacts there that's what's that? Anchor C. Anchor the bankruptcy with the, you know, the Thomas development team, but we can see and touch closeness like the courthouse, Roger, when's the courthouse open over there? The county courthouse? Soon, right? Yeah. The new one, I've been told, it should be open for the end of the year, but then I heard someone else say it might not be till mid-26. OK. Well, that's soon. So they're the 19 years. Better than 19. Yeah, and we're all going to the ground breaking of the new Kaiser hospital. And that's a four-year project. And then hopefully we'll start construction of the soccer stadium there and there's the shops and there's two housing developments. So we're there. There's some projects that are in the rail yards that are open. So, you know, this is imminent. And I think one of the things which is key, which we heard from all the council members and about stations here but also internationally in in MAKO which Mr. Garrett talked about is that these are bustling places of commerce and I think that these opportunities just aren't there yet because we don't have a lot there we had a starbucks there we've had starts and stops with retail there and you know you think well this will be an amazing place for a brewery why would someone not want to use this historic place and, you know, a real-yard brewery or something like that? But it's on that people there. It's just there's not enough people there, you know? Yeah, we have over 17,000 square feet on the ground floor that we've entertained. Prior to COVID, we were shopping, looking for, you looking for bikes and brew, any creative things. We have set up for marketplace. It just hasn't been that synergy there yet. So to your point. Yeah, but I am optimistic because as Councillor Dickinson noted, this is one of the most bustling lines and growing lines in America, the Capitol Court. I love going there, going down, catching a ball game in the Bay Area, taking those trains. And we see that, but there's just not enough commerce and housing built around there. But I see that we're close to that tipping point. So I'm optimistic that one, it's not a drain on the city budget that we can get revenue from our tenants to help pay for the needed upgrades and just maintenance so it's not a loser but a winner for the city of Sacramento. And as far as the structure, I don't know the answer and I'll leave it to you and focusing on the examples from across the nation. But I do know what I heard earlier is that it's very unlikely that any jurisdictions going to want to help at all. They have their own needs costs are going in their own communities. They have their own legacy infrastructure obligations as well but doesn't mean they can't serve on this body and help us you know get in line for say cog funding you know apply for you know federal Spodding, So strengthen numbers. And so I think when we focus on that, it's not that we're looking for you to help us with your general fund, but being part of the governing structure. So, and then lastly, as far as I do recall the measure A, the legacy measure A, we're living with right here, it did help us tremendously. So maybe someone can remind me and you were anybody else in the council. So the measure A-ish measure that did not succeed recently, what would that have done to help the real yards? The station. That did have $1 million towards operations. Annually? Yes. And increase. Yeah. And what would that have been used for? Well, we have ongoing current maintenance of increasing security. But we're getting the stations booming out. So we've got deferred maintenance of we need to pick up and so on like that So it would definitely been a huge asset for us. Yeah, and is that what our ass will be for the next measure again? Million ongoing. I think we need to evaluate that in the whole scheme of everything Yeah, yeah, and back to our back to the Lisa's idea So give us some the Bikeson Brewer, rather vision there. Do you have any real tangible, not just optimism, but inside as far as based upon what we're seeing there, what projects are coming online right now or about to break ground as far as what increased retail activity we can see there? What we do, plug for sourdough companies are ground floor tenant that's doing quite well down there and they're actually doing some catering out of there as well as plus their open hours. We have the second floor primarily leased, the state has a big tenant and so those are good for getting revenue in but we are looking to find ways to create activities and great especially with the coming athletics. We're improving our wayfinding, we're painting the canopy's leading out to West Sacramento, a bright blue color that kind of ties to the waterfront colors. We're talking in capital quarter how we can maybe coordinate some late trains. That's in discussion. So we're trying to capitalize on those events, create opportunities for food trucks, food, music, and start to create in that place and just starting to get that start of the hum, getting in people's minds that it's just not a train station, but it's a place to come where things are happening. So that's kind of the first step. I think that's the- Lastly, what's the timeline that you would like to have us focus on governance? What are we going for? We plan to come back by the end of the year with a more formal recommendation. We're doing our diligence. We're going to be exploring a business case and developing, getting more into the numbers and we'll have putting more of the skin on the bones of this idea that we're moving forward with and be able to come back with you to you by the end of the year. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate your presentation. Thank you for the presentation. This was a receiving file. No vote on this item. That is the final item on the agenda. We do have public comment. We do. Mayor, do you want to do council comments, ideas and questions? First or public comment? Public comment first. Wonderful. I have 15 speakers, so I'll call a few off. Please line up in the middle aisle. Chris Baker, Robert Elvis, Fernando Burton, Mac Worthy, Juana James, then Mac. Is that matters not only agenda I didn't hear. This is for matters not on the agenda. Okay. Public comment for matters not on the agenda. Thank you. Good evening, Mayor and Council. I haven't been here in a while, but I don't know if you guys turn on the TV. Sometimes I get tired of hearing about the, you know, we're cold. The negativity of South Sacramento, Floor and Road, Franklin and Mac. All shooting or this or that. But we never talk about good things that's going on on Franklin and Mac road and that corridor. So I say, what can I do about it? I'm going to show you some pictures of this thing works. Well, I'm going to show you this. This is food for less. I work behind the scenes councilmember van Zendin and bought food for less there. They did exceptionally numbers ahead above what they expected. And due to that, this has been working behind the scenes for years. We're going to have one of the best innovative, quick, quick car washes and ducts brothers there. Food for less had to give up some park installs that they were not using. So that's what's going on in South Sacramento, some good things. I wish when I turn on the TV I could hear, hey, this is going on on Franklin and Mag. Look at what the beautification going on here on Mac Road. That's about like to see, in second of all, you all have the forms there. Five years ago I was given a task to work with this reentry program. It's one of the federal ones. And five years ago, there was mandate set on them. And not neither one besides one council member that's down the street. Have visited them. Now there's a graduation, March 6th. And I think it would be good if one of y'all or all of you can come there and look at these people in the face and say thank you for taking part in the first step act. We see these people, they were in fellery incarcerated, but they have achieved milestone goals, got their families back, working for Cal Trans, working for the state, working for the county, but when we put all of these restrictions on, nobody's been there to pat them on the back. I say thank you. Thank you. Your comments, your speaker time is complete. Our next speaker is Robert Alvis. Thank you guys for taking these comments. My name is Robert Alvis. I own GD theaters, which operates the Crest Theater and the Empress Tavern Restaurant right up the street. I've noticed something over the last couple weeks I want to bring to your attention. As we know when there's events at the Golden One Center at the Capitol Mall, the Capitol Garage goes to surge pricing all day event pricing at $15 instead of the normal seven. Over the last couple weeks and most recently this Sunday the city hall garage has randomly gone to all day event parking at $15 when there are no events. And so like this last Sunday I had 30 families come to the crest and they used the City Hall parking garage and asked me why is this garage that's 90% empty charging $15 for an all day event that doesn't exist. So I don't know who's making that decision. I just wanted to bring it here guys as attention, have someone look into it. Like I said I know you know if there's a big concert at Cesar Chavez Park, parking goes up with demand. But when my customers see that there isn't the demand, they're less likely to come back. And we need more people coming downtown, not less. So anything we can do to encourage that, I would appreciate. Thank you guys for your time. Yeah, just for our curiosity, we'll look into it. And so the individual who oversees our parking division. We'll meet you in the back to get your information. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Fernando, Burton. Good afternoon, Mayor and Councilmembers. I'm disappointed that my representative has left the dius. I've lived in Midtown district four for 30 years calling I've come here out of frustration since March of 2022 there have been 25 accidents at the intersection of 19th and O street. Some have been very serious. One I know is a motorcycleist who went over the over a the hood of a car. the motorcycle's submarine into a park car and the motorcycle was likely paralyzed. I know because I called 911 and he said he couldn't feel his legs. The reason I'm here is that there's a proposal for development at 19th and capital that's going to have 252 multi-unit residences, 155 parking spaces. You combine all of that. Those cars with the edict of return to work, you've got staff from the East End project. You're going to have more cars affecting that intersection. And I'm tired of the platitudes from public work staff that will look into it, will research it. That's why I'm here out of frustration. I don't know what can be done, but I'm tired of dealing with city staff. Because I get no response. 25 accidents at 19th and O. You've got, you've got at the rail yards already built in the stoplights, but established neighborhoods like Midtown are being ignored. That in rail yard is future planning, that's the way it should be. Established neighborhoods, it's catch up and we have not caught up. So we need to do something. So thank you. Thank you for your comments if you're comments Mac worthy then Twana I don't know why I just We hear here is everybody kicking for the city to make money nobody's saying about things can go here that the people can money. How many of you really know what a nonprofit organization is? Shallow arms and the kind of the state, black folks lost it. That was nonprofit. Non-profit, they're all waiting for Washington DC here. You gotta know how to use it. I tried to get it in with a previous man. We own it. Like folks on the own, non-profit. Buy, low income house, and do it. But we see things like the DA coming in and tell you, I'm using brother to brother to snatch your own other people downtown. You go see some killing going here. And it should be because I know how my daddy taught me me. I commit a crime, but you tell it. I kill you if you tell it, either vice versa. And then we look at the county in city. Five million dollars over here. What do SHR ready to do? Where's the black voice in Sacramento? We have no on media. I am known as black voice here. Wherever the others that come in here and got paid, people, if you wake up and understand that it's six bill, it didn't cover you all. If you commit crime that which have been committed here, you don't get to twice to do it. But here, not a DA gonna go to be a psychologist and what you're doing, or you're still in the eat, or what you're still in for. That's what made by the DA. You're getting ready to build Mojela, after you get ready to do. Fleabogging and done it in the mid-70s. Nine percent of what the cases go here is people owned by a public cleaner, a public cleaner way for the state. You know how... in the mid 70s. Nine percent of the cases go here is people owned by a public opinion, a public opinion to work for the state. You don't have a fast law firm here in this town, no more. Just like here, you don't have it here in the city. Thank you for your comments and next speaker is Twana James, then Mac. I want to know if we can get an appointment with you. We can tell you our concerns about our place. We are, there's people that are afraid to go back because we might get thrown out for being here. And I don't think that's right. And the blankets, what he was talking on, I had to go to my church and get blankets for them. It's not, no, it's not unlimited blankets. People are freezing there. And just have a heart and listen to people that are there. Have a survey every six months or something and send it to the people that live there. Let them show their concern. You know, we're here for a reason because there's things wrong there. And we're just asking if we can get an appointment with you and just tell you our concerns. Is that a great, can we agree on that? That we can get one before I leave? Because I'm not leaving here unless we get one. You take me to jail, you can do whatever. I'm not leaving here until we get one. And that's all, I'm just listening to the people that live there. I mean, we're not doing this for nothing. We're not complaining about nothing. Give people blankets. And you know what they're doing? They're moving out, the two people, two trailers, they move out today. They're moving them out. They're keeping people in the trailers. They're not doing what they're saying. They're doing, you need to keep them accountable for what they're saying. And almost everything he said, not everything. I'm not going to say that. But most of it, you know, it was lie because they're not checking in on the people that are doing it, you know, working there. The staff over there's tortures people. And we should be able to stay this without getting thrown out. I wrote my arm, because he wanted to hurry up and get people in there. I'd bust in my teeth out. You think anybody asked me if they can help me get my teeth out? No. In my arm, I just got my arm out of the cast three months because of uneven pavement there. And I just, sorry. I just think that you guys, you should give me, give us a chance, could we? Thank you for your comments. Your time is complete. Our next speaker is Mack, then Henry Herring. I think this speaks to those hierarchical structures that I talked about last time, because then the expertise was given to this man who is not on the ground. And it was said to you, like all of these things were happening. And then you have people who are actually the experts of what they're experiencing walking in here telling you that it's not. So I think that needs to be taken very seriously that these hierarchical structures actually cause you all delayed feedback loops and it makes it so I'm going back a week later and folks are still freezing and don't have blankets. Y'all know, my name is Mack. My friends are there. They have them. And I come today as a friend of residents of the Roseville campus. Roseville campus. I think, again, these need for the feedback loops. You guys have already heard they have mold freezing at night, a week later, and they're still cold. They are still cold. And that was why they residents really would like to meet with you and Roger Dickinson. It's your campus. It's in your district. Can you point to maybe who your staff members are in the room? None of them? Okay. Would it be possible to get somebody down before we left so we could just get a card? Because they have tried to email all of you. That's how it started. They actually tried to reach out to your office and they tried to reach out to many of your office about this well before they came in here today. And it has continuously gone on deaf ears. I think, you know, we don't show up unless we have to. People try to call you. People try to say this. People can't go to the director because, again, these hierarchical structures means that if this one person doesn't like you, that means that you don't get help, but other people do. And so like creating feedback loops that allow for a non-hierical, like there needs to be many people that people get to go to. There needs to be many people along the way that people get to talk to about the needs that they have, not just like one person who's in charge of everything, because then if you get on their backside, you want somebody you can't talk to them. Thank you for your comments. Our next speaker is Henry Harry. Thank you, Mac. Henry Harry, then Julie Virga, then Susan Falcone. I don't see Henry, Julie Following Julie is Susan Falcone. Athena Pagano. I used to come down. We start over your timer. Mike was turned off. please proceed. Good afternoon. I just wanted it. Come down here today Please start over your timer. Your mic was turned off. You bet. Please proceed. Good afternoon. I just wanted to come down here today to say something that you may not hear very often, which is thank you. I appreciate your time and your energy. I really thought it was time that I come down here and see you guys in action. I hadn't done that yet this year. And it's hard work. It's a lot of pain attention to a lot of little details. And I appreciate a renewed commitment to leadership. And I see a new energy in the City Council that I've not seen in the past. And I really appreciate that. And one of the things that I do want to bring to your attention that I hope you will seriously consider as we go forward Because you were talking about prevention and how prevention can make such a big difference and preventing animals from Overpopulating is really going to be key to changing Sacramento and I'm confident that you all will be supportive of of the space-neer efforts that we all are going to be collaborating together to make going forward. So that's it. Thank you very much. Susan, then Athena? Okay, Athena? Yeah, go ahead. Do I see Susan? I don't see any movement. So please proceed. Oh, so Susan, after you, thank you. Good afternoon, my name is the Thia Pagano. I'm a certified humane education specialist with 25 years in the animal care field. I've worked with many shelters throughout California during those years. And I believe that Spain Newter is the foundation of population control. And because of that, I have built a mobile spay neuter program from the ground up. So I have a thorough understanding of all things spay neuter in the state of California. Currently, Sacramento faces a major issue. Hundreds of unaltered foster dogs remain in limbo due to a seven to eight month weight period for spay neuter. This city as the technical owner of these animals carries the liability for roughly 1,000 unaltred animals. If any of them escape, bite someone, harm another animal, or cause an accident, this open sacramento to legal and financial risk. There are many of those fosters that have also become lost in the system without a clear plan for transferring of ownership. I have personally offered to bring a professional high volume team of Spain Newter into front street by using their veterinary hospital without any success. Thinking that perhaps Ren Street didn't want to use their own veterinary hospital, I also supported bringing SNPs, mobile clinic as a proven cost effective and long term solution, yet the city continues to reject these opportunities. And in a recent development, it is concerning that the city has contracted spain uter services, which appears to overlook California veterinary medical board regulations. Again, exposing Sacramento to legal liability. If these preventable issues aren't addressed, the city will face mounting costs not just in sheltering animals, but possibly in lawsuits too. I urge you to please prioritize responsible legal and effective solutions before it's too late, not only for the city of Sacramento, but in an effort to save as many animals lives as possible. And I thank you very much for your comments. Susan Falcone. Following Susan is Carolina Flores, then Alfonso. Okay. Carolina, and I don't see movements. Susan, do you want to speak Susan? Is there someone who said my somebody's name? Susan Falcon, then Carolina. I don't. Okay, so Carolina. And now Fanz is not here, so following Carolina is Jeratil. And when I start this, there's some fluffy, fluffy, and fluffy, and fluffy. For those of you that are LSS limited Spanish speaking, I'm Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. for the other. You've got it to stir it and the anima is there. Thank you. I'll let you know when she answers that. All right. I'm here to put the key and our concern to can't the attack is criminal is control the vendors ambulances mexican immigrants in government a those. They are not a show. I'll tell punto de buscar alguna servicio legal para poner los a ustedes responsables de estos criminales. porque la gente que está atacando en estos invigrantes son co-inforcement staff y policía. En los dirios cd, un señor, usted tenía un morretón de la policía que lo atacó a él. Ustedes son responsables del silicanzo. ¿Pakélo tenemos a ustedes y nada está haciendo nada? Este acciones criminal, este acciones, su responsabilidad. Y si no hace nada, no, no, hay otro recurso de comenzar un viento contra ustedes o para ustedes hacer algo para parar esta stop this action of its equipment, its departments. So that's why, please, I've got some recommendations. I, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no. sanitario lo basura y el otro es tener proveer unidad en la comunidad y la desinidad los vecinos no saben de lo que están pasando los tan muchandos los vendedores y ellos tienen que ser consciente ellos los vendedores están protegiendo las comunidades las vecinidades que donde ellos están trabajando es muy probablemente es una relación que se puede establecer muy But when you come to rest, you will throw your food. is for us your two minutes is complete. I'll put two more minutes on. Yes, please. I was having so much fun. Okay. Beneath of Water Foundation, I'm Director of Communications, and I'm, there are a few steps steps that we we think that we should be achieve this anti-immigrant fervor of the vendors, the ambulance, Mr. Muthema, I have to mix my English and Spanish. The street vendors who are California residents are being attacked by people that are in your company, your company, code enforcement, your company, police men. There's videos, there's 10 videos online that you can see where the street vendors have been assaulted. There's crimes that are committed against them and who's protecting them, not you, not the police. And this violates the agreement between the country, US, and Mexico that United States would protect the Mexican nationals working here. We've asked promote unity, we've asked designated vending zone and community building. And they're being organized meetings where the both the neighborhoods and the vendors get a chance to meet and talk about the same struggles and the same goals that they have. We think that they would make better city governments. The raising awareness, the empathy and the understanding is going to happen when you educate the community about what's going on. And I really believe that these immigrant street vendors are contributing immensely to the economy here in Sacramento. They don't have stores with great big neon signs and play teams that are doing nationally. But they are vital parts of the community. They are part of the urban landscape and you you are not aware of it, and I am sorry, that's your loss. But we have to protect them. You have to protect them. And I hold you, each of you, responsible for protecting the street vendors. This is a crime. We are getting out of this corruption scandal, right? Well, you know what? This is not paint a very good picture about us nationally or internationally. And I hope that you understand that we are trying to do what we can to help you with the Department of Justice. We hope to be able to find ways to stop this crime because nobody's here is doing anything about it. Thank you so much. I appreciate your attention and your support. Hey, your comments. Our next speaker is Jared Hill, then Anna Arrondorondo and Elise Mise. We have three more speakers. Good evening, council. Welcome to those of you who are new on the diocese, the selection term and good to see those of you who have spoken here a number of times before. I am one of ten of the core member applicants who won right to dispensary license a year ago, almost a year ago, about 30 days from now, to be a year we are awarded a one year extension of time to get our dispensary open. Prior to that, the reason my company and team needed the extension was because our building in your district, Mr. Dickinson district two at 1511, Doppaso, the Ocasabella, Frontenzer, Galleria, St. Curry's building, burned down while we had an under contract to purchase it and open up there in the check hatch and place and then expand our vision, our goal for the avenue there in the rest of that building. So at that time, we requested more time from the council, even though Miss Kaplan is not here at the moment. Sure, those of you who were, remember that, while one year extension was given, it was intimated that, hey, those people might need more than a one year extension of time. Because of the way that this thing has gone for us, this has been quite a journey. It took us almost two and a half years out of the three years initially granted to get open to find a building. Some of the things that the roadblocks that we've been faced with have been access to real estate that's appropriately zoned, access to viable financing beyond, not just the support we get from the core program and OGM, but finding viable partners. People that are part of this core program start now as mom and pops are very limited resources and have been faced with a lot of predatory deals. So I'm just here today to solicit your continued support. We are really close at another location just up the street from there. 1625. Thank you for your comments. Your time is coming. Of course, being able to speak with you guys. Thank you for your comments. Thank you. I'm Anna Arilondo. I'm Anna Azaleez. I don't see any movement. Anna Azaleez. I don't see any move in Anna at least. So Mayor we move on to council comments ideas questions in AB123 reports. Councillor over Dickinson. Thank you. announcements. The first is California chapter of the Council of American Islamic relations, we all know as care. As pleased to announce it's 18th annual capital iftar, which is a celebration of community and interfaith understanding during the Holy month of Ramadan and that will be next Tuesday, March 11th, beginning at 5.15 pm at the Del Paso Art Gallery which is located at 16.16, Del Paso Boulevard, all are welcome to join in the event, breaking fast together and fostering dialogue and building bridges across diverse communities. Second, I wanted to mention the youth opportunity alert which will take place here at City Hall on March 8th. So Saturday from 9.30 in the morning to noon. It's an opportunity to discover stipend-based programs, internships, and seasonal career employment. So among other things, you can get a professional headshot if you come to the resource fair and we invite all to join in that this Saturday as well. And then thirdly, the Sacramento Building Trades is hosting a hands-on Union Trade Awareness Career. Fair, that will be March 28th from 10 in the morning to 2 p.m. at 97.01, Big Horn Boulevard, so toward the south, part of the county and I'll grow, and that's an opportunity to learn about apprenticeship opportunities, connect with representatives of various building trades and discover potential pathways to stable and fulfilling careers. So for those who are interested in the trades, there's an opportunity. Thank you, Mayor, and I'm clerk. Council Member Jennings. Thank you very much. Please join us in the Southland Park Neighborhood Association, Zeeburg Park Neighbors, Del Paso Trail Enthusias, Pocket Area Churches Together, the City of Sacramento Youth, Parks, and Community and Richmond Department, and Parks Commissioner Joe Flores. In my office, this Saturday Saturday to put in sweat equity to clean up the flooring road and pocket road section of the Dill Rio Trail. Once again that's this Saturday March the 8th at 9 a.m. we'd love to see you there and then it's that time of year again for you to mark your calendars for the Easter egg hunt at Garsha Bend Park in the pocket neighborhood. It will take place on April the 5th. You can arrive at 10 a.m. if you want to picture with the Easter bunny and be sure to bring your Easter baskets and all those eggs filled with treats will start at 10.30 sharp and be on the lookout for the golden egg for a special surprise. With goodies, Glor, there's plenty of fun to go around for everyone. So bring the kids out. More information can be found on my Facebook and Instagram page. Hope to see you there. Council member Kaplan. Thank you. This Sunday, we're going to have the District One women in Natomas, small business celebration. It's going to be 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. at the North Natomas community center. It's a showcase of a lot of our small women own businesses. So come on out and join us and then mark your calendars for Saturday March 15th at the North Lake Community Park which is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. It is the new community. to make an announcement this Saturday from 9 to 1 o'clock at John's still drive 2250. We are going to be planting trees and cleaning up the neighborhood. There's going to be bike repairs as well by Saba and so encouraging folks to come out to that. There'll be information and resources and lots of funds to bring your gloves and be ready to plant lots of trees. And then I just wanted to give a shout out to my staff Samantha Lise Thong. She's actually getting married this Sunday and I'm excited for her mong wedding and just wanted to give her and Andy a shout out. That has been a long time coming and I'm super excited for her. Thank you. Thank you. shout out. That has been a long time coming and I'm super excited for it. And then lastly, I want to just remind folks that our annual district eight community conversation is next Saturday from 10 to 1 at Union House Elementary School. We're going to have various departments there. We're going to talk about the great work that's been happening in district eight and the work that we still have ahead would love for folks to be there. Food will be there. Lots of activities as well. It's a really great annual event for community members to get updated about what's happening in the district. And those are my updates. Thank you. Mayor Patel, get up. Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. I just wanted to encourage folks to join us for the College Glenn Little League opening day and parade. As we always do, we start at the railings on Fulls and Boulevard and then drive out to College Glenn Little Neighborhood at 8 a.m. for opening ceremony at 8.30 a.m. And appreciate everyone joining us out there. We're also going to be dedicating the softball field. So thanks everyone for who worked together all the parents to start our first softball team in college glints. Thank you, Manoclark. Thank you. So the business of this meeting is complete. We do have a special meeting for the purpose of a closed session. After this meeting. We do have a quorum here in council. I do not have any public comment on either of these agenda items. We've got two items that we will discuss in closed session. Pursuant to government code section 54956.9D1 to discuss matters pertaining to pending litigation. Megan White versus City of Sacramento, United States District Court for the Eastern District of California. Case number two, colon 21-cv-02211-jam-db. Item number two is pursuant to government code section 54957.6 for a matter of pertaining to negotiation with recognized employee organizations. Sacramento City Exampt Employees Association, Sacramento Police Officers Association, International Union of Operating Engineers, Stationary Engineers, Local 39. Sacramento Area Firefighters, Local 522, Sacramento Sierra Building and Construction Treats Council, Plumbers and Pipepitters, Local 447, Auto Marine and specialty painters, local 1176. Western Council of Engineers, International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. The purpose is to confer with the city's chief negotiators, Shelley Banks-Robbetson, Aaron DeNato and Tim Davis. So Mary, you may adjourn to close session. Thank you, we'll adjourn to close session. Thank you.