All these points, it's just ridiculous. It's ridiculous. All these points, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Mr. Axeel. Here. Mr. St. Danyan. Here. Mr. Steve Downe here. Here. Mr. Kevin Meadows. Here. Mr. Hugh Brown. Present. Mr. Steve Rosen. Here. Mr. Harry Downe here. Here. Mr. Whitefoot. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve the Chair. And submitted. Second. Does he not feel? Yes. Mr. C. Dauwio? Yes. Mr. Kevin Moves? Yes. Mr. Hoverland? Yes. Mr. Steve Rosen? Yes. Mr. Harry Dauwio? Yes. Mr. Wayne Fletown. Yes. Mr. Steve Vosin. Yes. Mr. Harry, how are you? Yes. It's a waiting for that. Yes. Okay. We're here tonight for the additional use permit for the green red workshop tonight. Before we get started, I want to point out a couple of things to the people here that have been to listen to the workshop. Please be aware that tonight is a workshop. Public comments are not for this forum. They're before the public hearing. If you have any questions or comments you'd like to make, the county has set up with QR code. Does your time scan that? I there's an email address there. I have a full-of-grade read that you've sent questions to. You can all kinds of information, the copy of the CUP. Is there a correct? Yes, sir. On our current website, we have a Greenridge project page. And the email address is Greenridge comments at www.charmelandcounty.org. Again, please just hold your comments. Comments are allowed when we have the COVID-19 hearing, but everybody will be allowed to speak at that time. Thank you. Good job with the workshop. Thank you, Mr are the more so I can't even think my name is Will Schumer and I'm going to walk from it with Rodgers and I'm going to work here on this for quite some time. With me also is I have my wall list with the engineering firm of PRC and the engineering firm. Engineering firm is the answer to questions question that you're trying to have in the mission. I recognize that this is an initial workshop. We're going to have a self-proper workshop where we're putting in a few tailed analysis and discussion of particular conditions. We submitted a number of recommended conditions for the large and patterned on the previous and the case of the person changes to the conditions. We submitted a number of recommended conditions for the large and patterned on the previous case, but some changes to the conditions which I would appreciate. We still work with county staff and that's under the same conditions which I would discuss in the next workshop. I do thank you for the opportunity to come here and give a I'm going to move on to the project, some of my thoughts, some of the changes that we've been requested. So I do thank you for the opportunity to come here and to give a initial overview on the project, some of our policy changes that we're requesting for most of the 2010. Thank you. As you know, this is another formal form that maybe questions come up from time to time. Our goal here is that many commission to take our time. Make sure everything is thoroughly investigated. Questions we're going to have. We want to be very transparent. And how we do things, and we're going to hurt it. We'll be scared of two workshops. So we're not for rushroom. You have anything done for first night. And we appreciate you working with us on that. Thank you. We really appreciate it, too, because from this, we'll be at a better position to discuss other issues from up to up. Thank you very much. As you all know, undoubtedly, it would say, ammunition used for a better proof for a much larger landfills in 2018, a couple of tiny, four-seat patterns. Recently, we've filed another additional use permit in looking at the case, going forward, which reflects that this landfill has been significantly reduced. It's significantly less intensive than the original one approved in 2018. And that is an improvement based on the case site studies that I'll talk about in the details on improvements and listening to folks in the community that significantly reduces the scope of the project itself. Some of those changes discuss impact the size, the opening of the plan for the waste disposal area. It will affect the hours and the longer it will be 24 hours of landfill, and will reduce the truck traffic, the amount of waste that can be setted and other impacts. Alright, so what is Green Ridge now? When we came in 2018, it was 9 hazardous municipal solid waste facility, and it's still it. It's just going to be smaller and less intensive with more sick drugs, but it's going over above the PQ, going into the client. Right now, what we have done is in going through all the projects, about 1200 acres, initially we were looking at federal permits to impact less than two acres of evidence. is missing with us that, and some streams. We have revised that to get the first phase, not to any impacts whatsoever on any of the jurisdiction weapons or insurance. As a result, under the initial phase of this, under what is we received the sentence of part A, who essentially what you have to do to get a landslil permanent under the modern way of relation is an extraordinary tendency. There's a process called a part A permit where the DG analyzes in the act in live detailed analysis on our first and the range of different issues, cultural resources, in the hydrology, the geology, the kind of way that the cyclists in Columbia for land is its true. As the soils work, cultural resources, the geological formations, and we have wanted that process, and I would say, come and spot the GFU, an idea of how anticipated this is probably spent more than $1 million in this project so far. So we have a lot more information today than we did when we were swimming back in 2000. So we can slide the tail analysis with everything related to the overflow. We've had water monitoring the wells monitoring, for oversight of the use of the site, and the use of the care of the facility to support the site for maintenance. Well, we should get through the parse eight process. We then have to go through very exacting specific design and kind of design way. That's called the parse part of the work. That's where we're all going into the work of the key file and the new format. But that gets down to the details of exactly how the length of the must be designed. And that's in the sense of the process because it is well. The what we've come in under the Part A is to set forth that we will monitor any impacts of SNM stream to what. As a result, I would not... Part A, that was approved, the Wastens Postal is currently proposed, is 104 acres for actual W disposal. There may be expansions if you do get several permits to disturb weapons or strings. But given that we are not relocating the high-grade blood, which I was discussing about, which significantly offers the size, highest scope of the project. We know that we'll be middle-way and near what's anticipated in terms of the actual places for the generic, waste disposal area. And so you'll see in our proposal, in the initial conditional use permit, there was a condition that said, in maximum waste disposal area would be 650 acres. And what we've put in our latest proposal is the maximum of being 350 acres. Even assuming we've got the additional PQ in federal poverty, which is not a short. We, Ridiciel, will have a number to keep the extensive perimeter of the heavily-t which would include a 200 foot wide perimeter buffer along adjacent residential properties. I need a 50 foot buffer along the future entrance to the anticipate offer of 60. As was initially anticipated, the landfilling would accept 5,000, up to 5,000 tons a day. What we are proposing at this point is to cut that to a maximum of the conditions from the 35-minute tons of that. In order to avoid having any impact on what one's supposed to want, we would temporarily have to come through Pinewood Road, the access to time-road road is going to be 16. But what we would do with the condition is that to extend the use of time-road road, we could accept more than 15 100 times the amount, which equals 75 about drugs. In addition, we are going to continue to improve the condition to reduce the hours of operation instead of 24-7, which is a sort of community. We are putting in the, we're suggesting that they're the condition that operates 6-8-4-7-1-2-5, 6-12-1-2-1 Saturday, and no We're at 6 a.m. to 4 p.m. when you do Friday, 6 p.m. to Saturday, and no operations on Sunday. We're still anticipating, part of our greenery county, that free of charge to the Pumbleland. There would be a convenient center to take local waste from Pumbleland residents, And that will operate similar to the hours of the land deal itself, because people would come across the scales, checked in and go to the beginning sound. I was saying I can discuss one of the things that came through and talking to leaders in community. It was a great concern, I can come along, that people were having difficult, properly disposing of their motor oils and motor foods. That was an issue that we've actually noticed that the term problem monitoring was going into various it was never an anticipation Green greenwoods because as I'll discuss, essentially, county waste between then and now KFL, this line of fiddle was intended to serve virtue. But I anticipated a lot of fiddle was that, that shrinking lack of capacity and waste, I'll talk about it in a minute also. anticipation for us that there was a batch drinking, lack of capacity and waste. As I'm talking about in the minute also, that very soon there will be two companies that will be in control, probably 97% of the product of the landfill facilities in the gym, which would have enormous impact, ultimately, all twice in cost of disposal. But there was a provision that they could take out of St. West, which really increased the amount of waste that was coming in. Green County Waste and the New York Autistic Base, there are the state's served several hundred thousand customers in the gym and they could handle up to 30,500 tons a day. So what we put in our part 8 permit is that this and the only except for gym was the That was a big concern for the community. They didn't want out-state waste coming. They wanted to make sure that they were coming out of the community. That's what it should be. was a big concern for the community. They didn't want out of state waste coming. They wanted, which you need to consider, come and look out for the rest of the security itself as a community. We've made that commitment at our party, but this will only be stopped in the US. And that's, keeping the chinet net, that they will be in the swatch, and be comfortable with it as a occure issue. And as a reason why I almost all men feel like slush and I can about a time of that, we're not going to do that. We are the ones that collect, we want to set up a sl the red, the red, the red, the red, the red, the red, the red, I'm going to leave it here. I'll just go to the service room. In my room. We have this talk. Okay. I'll do a little bit of this. You see right here, this is the new one. I'm sorry, this is what the new revised initial layout the the list of the total area that we've solved this. So why don't we go into county waste and get a cell? I want this mantle. There were several reasons. One is that they made a determination that the military had to carry. But there's going to be a rapidly sharpening amount of provoked passive, especially the North East. I think it's a period that broke the mantle. The experiences have also been repeated in the, you could do a lot of other delicious, and you're having a lot of the most of the things you should know from New York, to Jersey, coming down, and by celery. And the other thing that you're seeing for, you know, the principal panwisers manager of Greenwich, anticipated that there was one very large landfill in the area that was independent of the public in panwis that also used to make a trustable of us who were homeless for the years. He predicted for various reasons that that length of those flows, that their expansion had been involved actually putting ways to the level of work that she determined to work just to come with improvement under the regulations and also this is a bad idea. And he was direction, as his example, is to become a voice. And so that is now these two two companies, which are around 7% of the private stock, and then go to gasoline. I think, probably right now, there's already experienced in the facts of the Shroomfield gasoline. I think my latest analysis of the budget, it would also have been certain, 5,000 miles a mile project just to dispose of the waste from the plant. I think that this is a good opportunity to accelerate at the top. That's the big, huge fish. Without this net fill, that's the big huge part of the question. I'm going to put it forward. But this net fill allows pre-reaching and GFL. It's 262, the possible very competitive basis. And we have. So a lot come with Kelly. I mean, look at how it is. It's a very low-painting location for the operation. It's pretty good serve. And if Kelly was to mount the the analysis. I was serving central and south-west continue. We said that it was coming from central Virginia, but a little bit less than a third. I was coming from south-west. And so if you look at the circle of transfer stations, the family of value has, as you like, the way should go in transfer stations and then the way is called and trans-worked trans-versations, for example, the family who has this, you collect the waste of those transversations and then the waste is called for trans-murkable transversations to collect it itself. This is like the epicenter of the area of the tree, not the area that family waste serves. If they looked at four sites in the family and looking at the working working of the previous board civil houses, they came here to clear that there was a strong recommendation and a direction to put the landfill on the least good most portion of Palmy, because that had the recent impact to the public's actual rubbers. And it makes sense because it would send it to the track this coming from the East to the West. So, you're not having any major vehicles goes to the public in itself. And part of the facility operation from Seattle, since we can talk about it at the link, with his extensive ground warning, border monitoring program, and health, well, both the measure of the surface flood and also the border ground warning, border-wide. So, we have seven years of history on our faculty, all of the site related site, market, family, system, so that you're constantly monitoring the growth in the actual development, like the possibility that they've had a week issue. What should find on this, with modern landfills, you've all stepped out of the bay, used to be years ago, and you're nearly as many by question. Now it's extensive for everybody, and there are probably a lot of instances of the place in the systems. And there are a lot of things that we'll talk about talk about here is that under the EDQ's regulation modern day eventals have obviously put in a number of those connections to make sure that you drive through this all DJ, it's leaking in the ground. So under the EDQ regulations, what she normally had, is she got the shape of stuff we had to play, and it's going to be permanent. But then there's this special engineer that, that is sitting in terms of the building, it's a 10 to the minus seven, which is basically the make sure that food is king or true. And then what you're having is, it's a very simple set to the liners, where they're both possible. They're provided for them. You're having a wheelchair-to-hushing system, where you're able to see them on top of that, and the curriculum comes down. And then you can see who it's within the work and the talk and talk, how it's about the financials. One of the things that came up pretty easily when we were going through the process is which would include not only the flexible the fire, the energy, having a special engine, you can fly, you have another system of monitoring about the fuel that come out. And we agree to do that. And that's what you see that in the initial instrument, that's the addition that will basically double it. What do you keep in mind with the plot. Giving the idea of this nicer, the nature of that age yearning and the protections not to be in advance in excess of 80,000 hours a day. So this is sort of a couple of hours to go back to the Black Hill. In addition, as part of this process, we'll have County Oversight, we pay for full time and 40, to be full time of the design and managing, overseeing the operations at the length of the end. And I can have not all spoken about the leadership management system, but it's very sophisticated. And the sure if you was home and through the ways that I was taught, you'd be very familiar with all that. And I asked, push, oh, we were talking about obviously a lot from the, so I I'm trying to figure out now, not her, but she said, serving Central and Southwest Virginia. So I'm trying to figure out how that is, how can one serve that? How, how, I think we're ready. Outdoor, servicing, how do you serve central and Southwest Virginia from Perlin County? Obviously, I was ran in about 16th, it's a main third of every, but it's a two-lane highway in England.lane highway, and you're talking about 75 trucks a day, and I'm just trying to figure out why a premium ship to county was chosen, if you're serving the name of South West, but we're doing every talking about the Northern, the Northern states, but maybe saying that was, I was in 2019, I guess, answer some of your questions. You got to answer better questions, I guess. So that's what I'm at. I guess there were two things. Obviously the length of the country is in the Spanish-Turkish service. The problem is in that simple south that simple Southwest. That's what I was saying is, if you were to look at the operations of serving Virginia customers, including Tom O'Lean, including the Algae people, that's in the exact area we're trying to serve. So you're trying to find a location that is fairly world, it doesn't have a lot of people wide around the field. But if you were to look at our transfer expressions in that area, as I was saying, probably this happens to be almost in the middle of that spot of the area that you insert to make that bring in the 30,000 tons a day. And so it's, and it's all from the 60s, the name, I'm sure, but for any kind of industrial business, any of that, that's the name, but it's money, attractions on CUMBLA is becoming up to the age of coming out 60, which is the name commercial order. It wouldn't look like the landf being totally not all named in 60. So it is, it is, anyone has felt that the West of Richmond would want to be used in 60. So this is designed to sort of come along. It's not like M and only So the other thing is looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking at, looking the agenda. So the other thing is looking at, and looking at a little cavity, a couple that had previously come into landfill, that also wanted, for whatever reason, I've not commented about this before, and this street was number one in the public at that time. And so in terms of the finances and background benefits, the disperse, even though we're reducing the size of the angel, it is well, as a sudden figure is an annual benefit of the front, and you can think of a budget. So we think this is the only eastern, most portion I'm tunnel in County, where we're closer to the 288. We can also serve staff, so that's what we think it makes, community-set, physical education, little trauma-surfer. A length of obviously is trying to serve as multiple talents for sure, this is a different. And, probably, isn't that how I have the next column, I'll bring a slide. It shows where our transfer sessions are. I think the graphic shows where I come in the situation. That's the other way to lot together, for civil rights, is working to be on the best extreme board shape that can't be properly. It's a good way to allow the other board supervisors to work on the nest, the streamable stream of the catapult. It involves the interior of the catapult. You won't keep it as close to 60 as possible, so you don't have to be that trustworthy on all the fat growth throughout the catapult. Now ask a follow-up question. Sure. So on the base of on the 30% coming from Southwest Virginia, the M. Roxamely, it's about 23 trucks in the math group. I have to ask how I think. This is showing you how the land flow differently is built and constructed. And as you can see. We're installing ground-borne monitoring wells. We've had a sub-layer of the flamethrower. We had to ensure that we had to specialize in the field. We had a liner of pumps, mid-Jay, pro-J system. And basically what we're doing is, uh, go away that. So I have a question. So, uh, I'm, I'm pretty little graphier, but I'm trying to burst pretty little picture, but I'm trying to figure out exactly what I'm looking at. So on the Leech-Aid collection, that is below the drainage later layer and the liner. So how does that work? Is there a hole in the liner intentionally for the Reech-Aid? No, it's there. It comes with a bottle line. So the liner, the sign of the liner, I can have my clean and disgusting right after I've done it. Exactly how you care about design, but your lead shade systems are going to be a part of that design. Now, because we're doing a double system, we're going to have another way to act it in case of some I'm concerned with reason, but somehow something that has that first line. But it would be on top. It just looks like from the picture. The evidence is lower. I'm sorry. What would you do if you find the escape, pipe out, and reflect in certain areas? And then I'm going to help out. You can search for a photo management and that's one of the issues the issues, and that's why we proactively had said in 2018 we needed to admit that our obviously not accepting has this race. But the big thing is the number of people, the number of people in the process that are ace of race for the sludge and then process sheeprock and it was a secondary one. and it was a secondary one. And one of the reasons why I was absolutely, every landfill wants to accept blood. It is incredibly profitable and it is very heading. So the teaching that I've been trying to make it, in addition, it is very the day, you can actually accelerate the decomposition of the waste and actually save capacity. So many number of reasons, almost all of the end-fills accept the sludge, but we made it commit that, and Jared wanted to let us see if we could have something that others should, so that's why I'm this cop, I'm not aware of anything that I've been doing. I'm not aware of the deal, but I'm ready to commit a mission that won't be necessary And it's a combination of gas and other pre-planet. At the beginning you'll see the top of the gas washotone planet. That eventually, as you see, the top is a gas lash of the casher that you've heard in the industry, which you've seen in Seoul. The other control also includes may take you very small working session, building a water working place. You know, David, talked about this place on it. And then you put, and then you will initiate a burn on all, you can ask the times that are very brittle, and for sure after a few years, then you actually then bring in the gas collection information. As I have indicated, this part of the operation on the full-time telling authority of of the Atlanta Monitor, I am expecting this factor of silver. And as part of the regulations and the plan, the Green Ridge will have an inspection program for the New York police. And what this plan goes to basically is it's designed to accept the waste from the jet out. So what happens is they collect the waste from the local market, the residents, and then it's taking the transfer stations and coming down transfer stations and it comes to the land base. There are control of that process. Can you explain further what that means in terms of the monitor of what comes in? I mean, when I put my trash, I put it in bags and I throw the dumpster. They're not going to go through all the bags to see what's in it, right? Now, what's your going to do? There's something, for example, example they have radiation line but it's thing to like it and then it's obviously generally especially especially as a special but it is it's coming into the transfer session. It's a municipal center. It's not allowed to sit up after this waste of being handed in some other thing. But it's household, it's basically what it is. But then comes from transfer station where the landfill has to go through a very special system. I guess I'm looking for more details of what that inspection system contains. We'll build that out on my speech. One of those questions I'll have in you in more details, because it's very helpful to me to get in that, can I ask a question? How I look to that? So is it expected that trash coming from outside of this locality? Is it expected before it gets here or when it gets here? How does that work? And you've got to have two assumptions. And so what happens is you'll have the waste that's collected by you after I'll add the transfer station. So it comes into transfer station. From that, it's only normal to track the trailers that will then go to go and info itself. And then you'll have to especially switch between that go and info itself. And that's two-foot data. We'll also be in the two-foot data. But there will be modern assistance, for example, where you're in position. So we did a good periodic checks on what's coming in the city. I can't tell you very simple bag where it comes from, the land flows from the open. That's the general way any land field is out there. And so you can do multiple checks on that. And that will be also know where it's coming from. It's coming from the asphalt. Oh sure. So if it's for a check, I mean, is there a rejection? So where is it going to this project? I'm just curious. Well, they depend, for example, if you get wasted, let's say that you get wasted is not allowed. and if you slide, you can can be called, you can not call away from the land flow itself. But hopefully that gets caught in transversational, but you have to back up on it. How many goes to the gate that have the land flow itself? From the bottom of the land flow, is there any type of liner overguy, we've got a double liner. You're going to have, you're going to have, you have the greatest light, you then have the suspect engineer, like, it's designed to be probably impenetrable. Then you're going to have a liner, you're basically going to, in terms of the engineer's liner and a liar, a second set of redundancy at the second set. So, if this is not basically not only cash or the food that comes down, that's the big transient system that I was talking about. But if, you know, after all the designs, it's designed that if somehow something is through that, that it basically acts as a whole, which was placed, so it doesn't go anywhere. You also have monitoring systems that are pretty much the same as you see in the machine, and then, like that, it's the full, so the multiple redund that put in here in the gas. And that was one of the issues that came off is, yeah, deep view of why is these expensive liners, we know the cost of, and that's what we're committed to. I've worked for, I've said, I don't control it in 30 years, and and we made it the honors for the landfills. Apparently you're not using them anymore. I don't have my talk about the particular, this particular title, Lionel Pass, it's flexible. So we're going to have, we've got an composite lion composite line over the top of the top. We're also going to be using your play and some great play, just passionate about that. Basically, as we talk about it, and I can have my talk now a little further. What she had is a collection system that collects the fluid, it comes to see stand with the bottom and it gets to the wire and it is converted out from the pump. It will have a lead protection layer which is part of the metal ion system but somehow first line, and it's an election, it is a lottery system under that. And this will be a separate additional line, it's the separate of the way to the single-lion school and the Grand War. Now, obviously, this is all about a lot, and I know the Notre-Worms, as part of this, the double as part of this. That's part of the analysis in that show where you've been, what was, what was, what was, and so then as part of specific design, you've got to be above that level. At 5,000 tonnes of daily, obviously we had more trucks that were coming, you know, with Route 60 and we'd be out looking at the main throw there. I think we can handle those trucks, but by slashing the average, not the size of average, The 50th day of the Panic Day, about half of the world, that's only 75, five. So, average, not the size of average, but 1500 tons a day for a 100-butt, that's only 75 trucks. Even if we got to what we're also putting in the additional use for that, is the moment if you want to go about 1500 tons a day, you have to shut the 100-butt and then access roughly for resistance. So that was one of my my questions. So on your plan as it stands right now, until it gets to 1,500, no traffic is coming off 60. No, it's coming off 60, but it goes to 1,000 growth rate. It goes to 60, and the limit is 50,000 health tax. Max is not enough. OK, so why would you not start off the exit off 60 and go 10, step back for a bit? It actually the buttons that you would have to do a small buttonless comment for various reasons. Maybe the terminal would want to get this mantle out of running. It's pretty synthetic, but it seems like regular port issues are happening on a parallel object. We can just show were happening on federal level. You could just share that we wouldn't have any impact whatsoever on any of that on your issue. Which really, that one is short enough about the bit. So that's how we got to, like, telling you the kind of work that you're doing now. I think just in obviously we want to expand and I don't want to do that, I'm going to have to go and promise with that. But on the most central states, we've been working on the third-party concept. So what we've been is, if this ought to lie in that, we must look at what one of our customers could ensure that the capacity is important if this thing is going. And also, the test, I think, what we can do rather than start off high road road with the link being out and the grid is the target, the federal warrants, then shut down high road road and then everything comes to this. So just so I'm clear what I'm anticipating voting on. It is for up to 3500 tons. Yes. There's a possibility that it will kill up to 3500 tons a day. Now we'll tell you one thing that I'll talk about in a moment, that one of the big issues from the first social panel, who was also, was that they did not want to see any pine road road when you wrote this. Even though the relocation is on the property, and you couldn't see that in your location in the road, that was a major issue for them. So what we have done is admitted it's part of our party. And the key in the issue of these women is that we will not be loved at Hanover. So we have some track coming up on the road. We're here in the team, we should not be loved any more. And we're also putting in their issues, but if you can't have waste from the left side, but there are a hundred ways. That's when we made progress, it was in a really large situation. That was when we made sure she's kept hearing once, we know one hundred ways. So that's important to me. So you can do foot math in my head. That would mean 75 trucks of high-grove road per day. Yes. Yes. Um, question. Yes. If you're anticipating roughly 75 trucks per day, 80% of those coming in from 60, then 20% are going going to come in from the Locust Grove or Deep Brent, is that the view? Yeah, yeah. What I'm saying is, along with 60, when you go from left, on the highway, to right, it's covering the traffic coming off with 60, and the going time of the road, there more than 15 million tons of that, which given the size of the truck a truck. Not so much the tonnage. But the number of trucks is what I'm asking about. It was not the money where the extra 20% and not the extra, but when the remaining 20% where will they access the facility from? Maybe I'm not understanding what we're anticipating is the 75 trucks today is what equals 50, you know, a ton. Correct, no matter where it's coming from. Right, again, I'm not so much worried about the tonnage. I'm not thinking about the conditions of the road. That's what my end question would be because if you have roughly 60-64 trucks a day coming in off of 60 Coming in on 60 because it says here approximately 80% coming from the east From the better coming west and okay All right, all right, and I think we would do is part of the job is Additional At least what we would do is part of the D-NOP, as we would probably make additional payment between the workbooks, whatever, 60 improvements or so forth from Hollywood, but that would be part of our part. Okay, has there any thought been given to what kind of damage that's going to do to Pine Grove? Well, one of the things, given that it's the amount of practice that can talk with Sam about, that we don't anticipate any damage. One thing we're gonna do with V-tod is I'm sure they're gonna want us to put additional layers with the asphalt, additional thickness to the pavement. And that those be part of the apartment, but we'll look at that because that's not not our, we don't anticipate. And it remains to shoot some hydro road given 75 trucks a day. But we'll work with sand all that. OK. I asked that because when they, you know, as they built the reservoir up off Columbia road, the damage that was done to Columbia road was fairly extensive. And I'm from Columbia Road, I'm Jerry from the Pine River, I'm a number nine and all the time. So just a question, that's all. And that's it. I will address, especially when you will be destruction. I mean, do you think that what was that? Thank you. Our goal is not to have any impact on how to do that. I have a question about the 150, 13500. Is the access road from 60 the only thing that's holding up to 1500 to go to 3500? Well, what we said is, if given a pilot road and a utility that would be 60 60 and it got 100 son acres and let's you get, uh, waste disposal program. So you're not going to want 3,000, 3,500 tons a day coming in or 100 acres or pot over. So if we, once we get, if we were able to get the federal permit, it would cost the stream, which was done in a specific should be ultimately a problem. And so you're, that's when you'd be able to, and you have to, permits to impact some of the amount of streams. That's when you try to start the process, you have to consider it. assuming you got that, that's real life. You can go up to 51,000 times a day. But even with any possible expansion, you've calculated, if she's never been on the dirty pump and hence, it's not how much you've shrunk the whole handset. So that's why we're going to put in the push-in. Because if you know what that has to cost you that, and that you're going to put in the stuff that you is the view of what I've done today at the end of the bill, but we'll put it in the top of the bill. And they get more than 50 hundred thousand. But we're assuming you won't have that guarantee. You don't know. We had a look at this to say, when we make this work. For the 50 hundred hundred hundred hundred, then it's a little, like, this is down just a couple of your statements with quotes. And I wanted to see if it is consistent with what's just being said here, but you made a reference at this point and that was a quote. And then you also said initial layout and I'm just I want to make sure that what we're talking about with the initial layout and And at this point, and the expansion of permits is just for a permit to cross the stream on 60. Well, in order, what you would need to do effectively expand down the 140. have been permanent across 60 because you also have to get the program and they impact the gene, the impact in certain percentage of shootings. So let me follow up. So in specifics, you said initial layout when you were talking about the map of back on. The site land map where you showed the little red picture you know showing and you said this is the initial layout so what would be your ultimate layout? No you ultimately have to get the permits. Right I understand. I understand. If you got all the permits you wanted what would be the ultimate layout? We would ultimately have to, I mean, that would have worked with the people, which you would basically, which you basically would do, is you see this bar, and I would already be becoming out of it. Where I said it would not be, yes. So this is completely off the table. So you would be coming into this area, probably the next, you would be the next expansion here, and then you get some of the comments, coming that way. So how is that different from the original plan of having the two sites? This is when we first became the fourth super-logger. That's where we were looking for possible voices for the damage deck. We were looking at any kind of rubber. So we took it to that, and then I showed you I'll do some on-ger to do a big pound of rubber. So do that. And then when I showed you the core, obviously under, and you're going to do a big pound of rubber. So that's how, you know, the before you come on mat. We're going from a maximum of 650 acres. Even if we got permits to impact the certain percentage of strings. We know we can slash the size, but a maximum of 50, I'm not saying that we're going to get there. So what we're trying to show is one, the one forward, our place that we know it to do is basically about 104. We've noticed a dash from the nervous system expansion. We'd like to do the returns and run. So we do that a little bit, even if we get your substantial small and we didn't want to put up say one of my options to suspect in the new, good. So that's how we came up with the sales deck. We weren't good in the commission, we used to come up. This is what I'm planning as I would be all kind of going to the road and maximum fee $15,000 for that. I think with that, we're able to access six feet and we've got federal permits, there could be an expansion which we're showing in general areas on the clean air site line where that will occur. I'm also spelling out there wooden curbs, so for example in the commission US, you put in your disc, you can't set a new voice, so the last of currently will get popular. That's absolutely. Yeah, it does kind of, but I have a follow-up question, and just John's, you may be able to help me on this. But the, so I referenced one plate, and I still took a backup again, but you had indicated that the conditional use permit was supposed to be a permanent, conditional use permit. So how can we vote on a permanent, conditional use permit when we don't know what ultimately it's going to look like? Well, I think we need to look at that. It's like, yeah. We'll get a result. We've done it. We've done it. We're looking at it. It's like, you know, the data you're designing must be done in the front. What we're looking at is as we're going forward with the project. And the ones that time it takes to get it, should have commitment, spending $20 or $20 to go for minutes. I understand you're committed to the blockchain. So when you finish the report on that, I I mean, the other, we've got a time limit, and we actually have a limit limit. I mean, once it will have a plan, it's once we fill the capacity, then it has to be closed, so it can work with the right information to the ground. But it's, I can't give you the specific, even now, we have so much more information than it's been. So it's much more specific than the bottom of 2000. Right, I understand which would indicate, so, you know, we're having to do CUP now, right? Because changed from the first one right? Yeah, it's much smaller. Yes exactly. So if this is accepted the future plans are twice the size of what the current plan is. That's a pretty significant change. Yeah but what what we're going to lower trying to do is, I think what you do is you carry two of these in 2016. Because when you're in 2018, it's even more important. So what we're trying to do is, because she used to know that we can't tell you, and a lot of things are in this. And she's not only because of the problem, but you can't say exactly what that might ask for. You got it as the pool, which you got it as the heat in the pan of this part, you can't accept. But what we can say is, where do we get the current from? And then we know that there are limitations. We wouldn't be sensitive to people saying, well, I don't know what you're ultimately, but you don't know any limit on it. And you may ultimately show up in 5,000 times a day, and you may ultimately have some sort of a kick. And so the way we're trying to solve that is, saying, okay, we're going to put out for boundaries on a white competitive, generally rare computer, knowing that you have to ultimately decide what to do with the whole individual itself. And that's just part of it. You need nature of the whole individual. So I think we have a lot more information that's almost specific, and this would change when we work in 2002. We do about more, I'm glad to show more information of how we think the states are where we are. So we won't be able to buy some of that. Yeah, I just, I want, but I don't buy. And that's why I think this is very helpful. Okay. Here's some information that if you were again an expansion, this is where you would work. This is how you take the phase in your process. You make people location direction. I think that you can do that. But we're going into this and only that you can have to get of this. So I'm not going to understand that we're going to be going on this and just estimated it would help us. We were voting on what we was going to now plus the expansion. It's putting in that there's an ability to expand. It's like with any zoning, you put zoning in certain uses. I mean, they do. With just one point of clarification, there's a difference between zoning and a CUP. So when you have a zoning request change, then it allows for all the uses in that zone. But when it's outside of a particular zone in the request, then that's when the conditional use becomes apparent. And our conditional use permits typically are not permanent. They become permanent after so much time typically, but even with that, they're open to revision. Well, and it comes through as what it is, typically it's one of those star part part of the issue, which panel this is, just going to be unique nature of an extensive nature of the permitting process, and as I think you've demonstrated, that that's part of that specific, specific page. So it's a fairly unique, just getting the unique nature of the extensive engineering and regulatory framework. But what we can do in this, and there's new conditions for that, is beginning a lot more exact new conditions than she would normally have in his own years. And so if you look at the list of the hosts of suggested submissions that we've made, then for your detailed and exacting, probably a lot more than you anticipate in the typical time of that. And so, but we can work with the questions and concerns. We can work with the fine commission staff of the Buckford Commission's committee. We need to go in there. with their questions and concerns, we can work with the scientific, what-for-the-comissions of any of these within that. Now one of the things we do have in here that is very helpful, it's been happened in 2018, and we seldom have any kind of large project. It has got the benefit of the extensive analysis and engineering and it's the home building spending, you know, putting in value before you come in for a copy of the study. Any kind of termination at this site is in fact true. And so, I think that's very helpful in terms of, okay, is this appropriate to do whatever to see, you know, the information? Mr. Charles, do you want to add? Yes sir, thank you very much. I would just like to say that what we have this evening, what we're looking at are proposed conditions by the developer, by the applicant. I will say that the attorney, Mr. Shumank for Green Ridge and our outside legal counsel are in negotiations. So what you see before you this evening are not set in stone. You do not have to accept the conditions that are proposed. So we are working on that. Again, this is just a workshop to gather information. So I just wanted to make that point of clarification. And that's very helpful because When the result that I said at the outside is, this is a high level. We're also working with the staff and the ten-year-olds' owners. But this is helpful, but these are questions that are coming out of the way so you can possibly address them. But, uh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to catch up on call, but I just think it's important that we stand track and realize that we're here to evaluate what the conditionally used for meant that's before us today and not speculate on what could be down the line. It's important to get information, but we need to stay here because we can get sidetracked very easily here. We don't do respectors to chairman. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be voting on. That's what I was willing to clarify. Well, I know that, but we will be voting. And if this is the conditional use permit, I need to know what we're authorizing if this is what part of it is. Does that make sense? Absolutely. And tonight we are looking at some information. We are going to have a second workshop. So tonight we are looking to get information from the African. Got a question so that way we can look at the questions and provide answers to that in the next one. Exactly. Which is why I was trying to get information on what is the ultimate goal, pretty much as they're best choices available. What is the ultimate goal so that I can know what the plan is? I'll second that. Just see what the final plan is. Where do you want to get? Obviously we see what we are now, but where do you know? Where are we going to end that? It seems like that that's the thing to be in the CUNP to grow from where we're at. So we're going from, you know, we're preparing design to look there often. It's not just that, it's like you need to be aware. And that's part of the role that you're bringing from the past. But if it was any possible expansion, we're going to be corrupt. And then that would be part of the process, what we're doing. Say, I'll write that for example, as a thank you to anyone. That would be important for when they're recycling parts of the details is having to identify in the areas where that possible expansion could be. And it's also what I'm trying to do is, yes, we're coming in, and only 50-hundred times a day now. I don't really be a Russianist. That's what we're hoping. If you look at the economics of the landfill, the way it works, you have enormous amount of money you have to get into the landfill. I mean, that's the hot pot of cost. It becomes important to try to expand, because your variable cost will stand over time, that is. So I didn't want to be a question of how long you took the hammer to, if you want to cut it back. But, also very realistic, we kind of looked at this in the following and saying that's all we are. And we'll go forward. I'm just going to say. I was just going to say because you had traffic effect slide over and took it. OK, that's OK. I like the fact that you're not under asking to be open 24 hours a day. I think that's a plus. Opening at 6 o'clock in the morning. I'm wondering, it wouldn't matter what time of wise, you've chosen six. To me, it is a question related to you open at 9 or 10. It would be the same thing. Would you anticipate that at 6 o'clock in the morning, there would be trucks aligned up to get in? As a result, there's no effect of seeing landfills that would even be without you. And one reason why you see landfills that we didn't hear we'd have to. And one reason why you see landfills is if they have trucks lining up, they're accepting how to stay at work. So you're having a lot of long haulage. They're coming in and it's the way the business works. It makes sense to them to be driving, the small hall and night so they can be here open on any of our doors. Then that was saying this is the thing I only have faced for some, GFL, that actually makes absolutely no sense to this. Do the drivers, as they're approaching, you know, as they're getting within an hour to hour, do they contact the, an office of the landfill and say, hey, are you busy now doing all of them, but for it? Could they just come and show us? Yeah, I thought it would be worth organizing it. It's limited to size in the landfill. That's a lot of information. That's not going to be an issue. The other thing is that all the trucks today is only seven, seven, seven, and have trucks an hour.'s time. Good time. Yeah, the traffic is not going to be at 3500 times, even at 3500 times, right? They can come and then at that point, you've got to come off with 60. And we've got our issues where it informs a lot of law. So at 1500 times a day, and that the 75 cars has to actually not issue. And then if we're putting in the condition, because you know, above that, our soul access can be only off that interest rate, but we're not going to have a transplant rate. And well, it makes me also like this with getting some of the trusts or not. The other thing that the people want is don't really what you trust, operate during the brush-out. So, that's the true question. This gives you an idea of how this is currently designed. We were looking at well over 500,000, but it's 104,000 for this upset. We've done the analysis of, We're not going to get you any year. That's what you put in the machines for that to be the moment. I think you said 250 acres. The maximum height is about ground. OK, so can we pause on that for just a second? Because again, I'm confused. So the original design was 500 acres. We're not 650 acres. Right. We are. We're not doing that. So you say current design is 104 with the expansion to what? The maximum of these. Okay. So what I would like to see on these graphs going forward is what the maximum. Okay. That's good. That's good. and the toilet. This is just nowhere. And in the maximum height of 12 ground level, you see sea level, and that's obviously the number of correctness points above ground level. It had a design that we had in 30 feet above but the surrounding area was under the current design of a hundred, and the current design has approved them with the parier On the parquet, it would be a hundred, sort of a slash year, about 220 feet, but it would have this on the other side. Even if you have a maximum expansion, you're still, you know, over a hundred feet below, you could go over a hundred feet lower, and it was originally was originally anticipated. Skin, wear the process. And I'll show that slide this time. And you're obviously a success given the shrinking of a length over the and the flashing even more than number of homes of a half mile is what we're making today. This will have one bus to come. And that's God. of the homes of a half mile, which I think would remain the same. This would not go on for us at all. And then, you know, on the original design, we were in the 62-A version right now, because your streaming hack, you know, 658-ish would be $4,000 feet. The change is impact now. We know that this week's of credit are, and what he did once is, they forced the right credit, so you're impacting. Yeah, so I have a question about that. I bet about that in preparation for that, and I understand the idea behind that. But, so if you, if you get authorization to mess with some water by helping other water, how does that help the people around this water? Well, it's just about managing work on it. So the whole point is not just that work on it, but all the properties up. So you still have school and water management requirements. That's just an impact string in terms of, we initially actually looked to possibly buy additional property. But a lot of years before, you can actually look at a lot of degradation around strength. This is an extra. I've looked into five properties that was nearby, those four. Thank you, actually, doesn't like that process. Because they've already done my own career. So, of course, they're, their, their, it's been in certain ways. Yeah. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, or create them and then you buy them. So it's more of a process, you know, actually, bought the clothes. But again, we know that any ship, any standout, or any format to buy a stream in that, there's a much less than what we wanted to do, was the documents that that was allowed in 2018, and then what are some of the significant differences we think the community and the climate mission we appreciate, obviously, their early vocation of under-run, their waste disposal, what's the under-run, slash the amount of maximum disposal rate, cutting the tonnage for the 5,000 tons of day, you can 35 tons of day, that's with immediate expansion. More than 51 tons of day, you can find a runner and what we do in the fishing and standing is what you want to do about that. You can have your feet succeed. You can shut the place, the public, and the higher the road access. And the big ones is this, using the public deposit line for systems. Using the hours, just 24 hours a day, and 10 hours a day, so space, and six hours a day, and then one of the things you can hear was that there was a problem as I mentioned with any phrase, a liberal, a political, so it's a problem. And so what I mean, I think it's the reminiscence to take that. But we can't let it go. We can clear on that. But it could come in as part of the Phoenix Center. Suppose I get a new deal properly, and I'll take this one. I'm going really probably have a different way. We have this thing we talked about a number. The one thing we'll close next will say is that we got the top. We wish once again that's good neighbor, probably that. It's a pretty good focus, since some of the things that you're putting in here on this list are things that actually you receive by coming to the point that they get. It's part of both the demonstrated material value and important part of community. And so we simply saw some of these together in terms of paying the $400,000 in the community and paying $200,000 in cost. So keep that work in some of the suit with our services. They keep the scholarship from all the schools. They continue to work with community knowledge, with the new parks, and all the safety of them, and I don't know how I was in senior high school. And so, they were convinced right that play more in a quarter part of this seniority, and that in part seniority. And so we have all these ideas that we have, and we need to use some study guide up each and talk to individual groups for how these entities are used by also how the problem with the needs, four families, where we advertise it, send out to the adjacent, to the extensive third party studies on hydroology, weapons. We have been in determination to let us own part, so we can share with you exactly what you see that importance has myology, powerful resources. a determination of the left and zone path. So we can share with you exactly where the work is. We've seen that in the fourth and sixth biology, total resources, traffic, and employment in various species. We've gotten the party permit involved, but it is going to have a very detailed, how you design and how you operate the park. One thing to show in terms of visual impact, is that the wind test, this effect is in charge of the snush higher. So you hear the wind test, you can throat very well. You can go around the various fluctuations. You can see what's up on the ultimately the windtiles that are in the indentations. But because of the extensive population, a couple of other top areas of the issue is maintained. There isn't a multiple areas of the issue in that. This is taking right off the top of people have been doing that. So this is taking a lot of off to talk about the climate of school and road law school. And this is when we thought between the 33th of the ground law, we didn't see the top of the land drop, which is on the We'll go to the next time we're here. So obviously, I'll be keeping forward with this. I'll come back to the next part of the year. So obviously, I have to be fully convinced of this. I'm going to talk to you. And that's a presentation. I can have my own specific general questions that we just system of a virus system. We see here, if you'd like, that they're coming on that. And then this is supposed to be very raw or beautiful. Very rare, very raw, very raw. I think you need to do more detailed, especially electric machines for phasing actual advantage of the next work. Yeah, it was very, very quick. I'm sorry, I was not aware of the different agenda activities for the various workshops. So I was in a lot of stuff. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to ask then tonight or whether I'm supposed to wait in the next meeting. I think you answered, I'm always glad that you won't ask me questions. I'm always going to take long time. You're more welcome to ask your questions. I'm going to sit on a few while I'm looking over the world. Take long time. You're more welcome to ask your questions. Mr. Dottie, what can't be answered tonight? I think I'll take that and we can see who may answer at least by the next workshop. OK. If you have questions in the interim, do you want to be all fine? I mean, I'll always be available to say, these are my questions. So the next word I can can do is dam or a commercial. I can say, okay, here's the information. Let's see. I have a question, just kind of general question. The blame anything to do with the condition used for mid, but when you're looking for a site, what are you looking for? I've been in a rich or. One has, as they make, just the sense from the service area you're trying to see. That wasn't kind of a green ridge. Now you have to make the determination, maybe that you were having the shrinking capacity that they could have predicted. And the issues with landfills for serving the service were in close, but there means you land for the serve of Southwestern and Central Virginia there, there's some of them on the thousand customers in the field. So there you go, and you talk to any number of localities in the area, number of localities, arguably, I shouldn't have any land. Probably at I'm going to get a priest, a permanent Orlando. I think they may have been getting decided I'm sorry, I can't handle some of that. horse in that dance, or a face long previous leg built, that was. So, how much more of the localities that was out of the socket. You were the one wearing the strip part like I would have. So, that's one thing. Then you had the detailed analysis. When I talk about the part-day process, it's hard for you to over-emphasize how it's exactly that is, because you didn't have to find a site that you think is stupid from the soil through the geotechnical aspect from the remote access from cultural resources. There's a whole existing living affection path instead of for being here, you say, you believe it's a suitable site. I mean, it's under the new, sort of, second-hand resolution. So it's very, very exactly. I mean, if you just look outside. So one thing that we're looking at that, and we're looking at probably is the technical suite. And made that the general mission with that. So we thought of it as a student, like Paul Landfeld. I think there is a fact that geotechnical, and genealogy, and cultural resources, etc. And so that's going to process that up, and it's going to continue to be a group. And that's why I think the Canadian student formation, You have now, which we didn't have in 2018, which we passed in 2018. We've been so... And that's why I think it's a significant mission. You had now, which you didn't have in 2018, 2018, when you certainly was in New York City, you knew after the sense of analysis, you could say, yeah, this is a simple part. What did you do have now is after that it was lost as analysis, you knew at the information, this is what the Department of Environmental Policy thinks about this. And in a lot of specifics, you know, conditions in the car. That's a very important process. So it's true for all. It is true for all. So, gee, for us, the same, one is the next sense. You know, the new aspects that you have, and then from the National Fist for Civil Affairs. I brought questions. I was here in June, I was here in 2018. So really, what I've been able to do tonight in singing the world was initially in the past 2019. So reading about the internet tonight and seeing what was initially composed in 2018. I don't know how to ask this, but it's an explanation of just to say, okay, we're starting here, but it seems like we're trying to grow to what was initially composed in 2018. That's what it sounds like to me. just trying to, because what we're doing is, one is we're letting you know what our opponent is currently, why don't we just deal with the English side information and everything. So we can come over to say, well, it's been seen this part here. The second is, though, it's we know now that it's not gonna be be nearly as long as we anticipated which the cops wouldn't have allowed, just from the fact that they're standing in the settings, the analysis, any agreements we've made for example, tell them we love their kind of brother. And so, if you look at this cop, that's why I'm going to be through it, compared to 2018, this is a smaller, much less impactful length of life. We'll sit. My, my, my, believe is, when it's you like it up, coming in for the small length of life, you're going to see what it is and when it is not. You don't think he might have been there. That's always wise. It's 30% less time-time. That's excellent. Yes, yeah. I mean, just, I mean, you know, significant? Is 30% significant? No. I mean, you know, obviously, you don't think it's significant, or whatever, but anyway, I just wanted to make that clear that it is 30% less. So, we've turned off the table. It would be at least 30% less. I think that's right. And then there are other things that we've done, as well, for example, that double-point otherwise. There's some other major changes that we made that we take care of good. We give even further assurances and connections to the world, such as the public market life, which is coming out, which is not going to be in the underdevelopment, but they're saying, you'm not going to be able to be well over 100 feet plus even if we go all the way through about that. And those are the things we work all the same. So Mr. Chairman, I've got a bunch of questions for clarification. I don't know how you want to handle having me ask these questions whether he is going to go by turn or how do you know if it's not supposed to be a foremost workshop. The first question I have is in relationship to condition number six. It indicates that the permitting will operate the facility in such a manner as to avoid unreasonable traffic congestion. What is unreasonable traffic congestion? That would be very young. You're not going to answer now, I'll just be clarity for it. We're working on the condition of the same. I think that was from the original question. Yes. Well, yeah, I mean, that's an option. One of my colleagues just said, should I just give you a bunch of the questions, and then have you work on it in your memory? You want me to go through these? I'm behind and ask all these questions. You can ask that. I think that would be helpful, because she can get it, that I can know which part of our team is example of why. Because you may have to issue any questions I assume. I can know which part of our team is example of life. You may have to introduce your hearing question to us on. I can identify the answers. And so that probably strikes me as a big work of approach. And I also know that we're working on the conditions still with the ability to panic. And so I think we're very closely to getting to where we take the community, trying to help you to do that. I do want to do any questions because maybe something we have in thought of will be in the committee. Yeah, so I'll do them. It's okay, because I'll just eat. If it's okay with you, then we'll do it. I'll just email you. My questions. You can bore them. I'll just email you my questions, you can board them, you can take care of them or have them. I think that's a great idea. And I'm going back. I think at this point there's anybody else have any other questions that they need to answer? I just have one question one like the life expectancy depends if you get the expansion sorry what is it? depends if you get the expansion could you just answer it assuming we get the expansion. I'm sorry, what is it? It depends if we get the expansion. Could you just answer it? I mean, assuming we get the expansion. I think you're looking at probably between 30 out of 10 or between 10 on the level of expansion, 30 to the absolute maximum of the four years. Give me any questions? So I just have one general question. Okay, and this is permission, Johnson. Are we going to see the host agreement? So the host agreement is currently under negotiations. And so the goal of the commission is to monitor and look at the commission use limit it. The host agreement is actually going to go to the more student boxes. As it did last time too, I had it in my hands beforehand and it was nice to see that because I was able to point out some inconsistencies and things like that. So I'd like to have it if I could. I will get with the county church and county minister and see what we can do. I know that and that is currently being worked. Thank you. If it's okay with you Ms. Johnson, why don't we, as commissioners, if any of us have any other questions that come up between now and February 10th, get them to miss Johnson for email so she hasn't been writing then she can submit them to you and then at our meeting on the 10th they can all be addressed okay yeah and I would encourage you to come up with questions because the more we know the more educated or decision will be So let's not be afraid to do that. Okay, now I get emotional. Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourned to 10 February 2025, if the Cumble and Middle Hospital will cut the tour round and we meet at 6.30. Second, a second. Mr. Matthew. Yes. Mr. Steve, I'm here. Yes. Mr. Maciel. Mr. Steve, are you? Yes. Mr. Kevin Smith. Mr. H. Brown. Mr. Steve Rosen. Mr. Harry, are you? Yes. Mr. Wood, please. Thank you.