We're ready. All right. Good afternoon, I could call the order. The city of Lake Alfred, Code Enforcement Special Management hearings for September 19, 2024. My name is Joe Mawini. I serve as Special Management for the city. First thing I'd like to ask you to do if you've got your cell phone with you, please make sure that it's silenced so that it doesn't ring or chime during our proceedings today. Just a brief explanation of the procedure. We will take the cases in the order that they appear on the agenda. The city will present the case. Then I will hear testimony from the owner, owner of our representative and anybody else that might have an interest in the matter. With regard to the, we only have one case that's under a supplemental order to consent agenda. Those are cases where there's already been a decision made that there was a violation. So that case will not focus on or involve whether or not there was a violation to begin with. It'll just focus on the matter of the number of days that the property was out of compliance. And if it's still out of compliance, everything and anything that's in the agenda packet will be a part of the record today, unless there's an objection and a ruling to the contrary. If you're planning on giving testimony today, if you would, please raise your right hand. If you solemnly swear a firm that the testimony you give here today will be the truth and the whole truth. I do. Okay. Thank you. First action item on the agenda is the approval of the minutes from July 18, 2024 proceedings. They appear to be an accurate reflection of what transpired on that date. Any comments concerned by anyone who is in attendance? Seeing and hearing none, those are approved and will be a part of the record of these proceedings. So under the consent agenda, first case is case number 2024-00001-R, properly located 340 West Care Street. Was cited for Section 106.3 Declaration of a NUSAN Stimand for Correction and Section 1422, permit required. The other finding violation imposing fines repeated offense was on 418-24. Data Reinspection was 09, 1024. Affidavitable compliance was 09, 1024. Service of process and notice was provided pursuant to Florida law. Public notice is as required. Pregola permit issued on 725-25 and final inspection was also on 725-24. That was 24, excuse me. Favres permit issued on 910-24. Final inspection completed on 910-24. F date of compliance completed on 91024. On left is the per goal of permit. It was closed out. On right is the paper permit. It was closed out. Staff recommendations find the property in compliance as of 91024 certified fines of for $1,500 per day for the period between $4524 and 09, 1024. Total fines at $225 and award administrative costs of $5921. Okay, so the request today is to certify the supplemental fines in the amount of $15,900 and to assess the additional cost in the amount of $59.21. Correct? Correct. Correct. Okay. Thank you. All right. Is that everything from the city? That is everything. Okay. Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon. Would you state your name for the record, please? Hassan Tonovaro. And you are the owner of the property, correct? Yes. You've heard the evidence and testimony presented by the city. What would you like for me to take into consideration today? I mean, I don't know. I've been here so many times. I'm just tired of coming. I mean, I didn't know, I've been here so many times, I'm just tired of coming. I mean, I didn't build this, I had a contract to come and build it. I was under assumption, I'd say that's my claim that they fooled the permits. Somebody comes in my house and tells me they fooled the permit. I don't come. When I do jobs for people, I fool the permit. I have the permit, I put the permit, myself. A contractor did it for me and I was under assumption they pulled the permit. When they come tell me that there's no permit for, I'm not going to say the same thing. You guys are under like what I call a guy. He's like, oh no, I didn't need a permit. I said yes, you did need a permit. The people here tell me I need a permit. $300 just to have a engineer come out and inspect this thing and make sure it was done right I mean it was built right but I mean I didn't have a permit issue for because I would understand the contractor who did it pooled the permit Right and a certain of our I just want you to know Repurposes of your future reduction proceeding. We have to the city has to seek to certify whatever fines would have been outstanding until compliance. So that way, once the magistrate hears your reduction request, all of the fines will be encapsulated or included within that reduction. If we were to leave this outstanding, I say we the city were to leave this fine certification outstanding, then any reduction order that is entered would not include what has not yet been certified. So it would be a cloud on title. So the purposes of today's feariness to certify it, identify that you're in compliance and now you would be qualified for a reduction. And we've talked about that in other proceedings. And I know your frustration, believe me, we've had some meetings that have been better than others, but at the same time, it's been well documented exactly what's happened there. So I think now that it is in compliance and you've gone through the process that you've had to go through in order to obtain a affidavit of compliance, I think that you should apply for a reduction and bring that back before the magistrate. That's, I can't give you legal advice, but I'm just procedurally that's where the case is at. And I can only imagine the level of frustration that you would have if we brought you back in for a reduction and then all of the outstanding fines were not included within that reduction order. Yes. So this ain't for reduction? No. No, this is for a fine certification. So you need to apply now for a reduction. And then that will be scheduled. And so you can come back in. And everything that you've already said that's a record. And then you can provide additional testimony as to what happened. Although I think we're all well aware of the tribulations that you have in order to get to this point. But come back in, explain that to the magistrate, and then the magistrate will be able to it in order based on whatever findings are presented or whatever evidence is presented in issue in order to reduce you the fine. Okay. So, you mentioned your tire to come in here, but that will require one more trip But but based on the facts that you're representing to me and assuming that the city doesn't have anything to contradict that I Will I would look very favorably on a reduction request under the circumstances I don't know if you guys are the ones who can tell me this but who do I speak to? About I mean this is already closed out everything's to compliance I'm done doing stuff to my house and my wife wanted that so we got it is what it is now but who can I speak to about like I feel like it's not just me but I feel like like I'm being harassed by the code enforcement I have a neighbor who lives right next to me and he's at my house taking pictures of my property and my neighbor has a electrical wire that he's adding to his house side patio hanging down and he's taking pictures of my of my papers and the electricals actually you can see it hanging I've done I finished and nobody's nobody's getting on trouble. This Saturday he put up a big old plan to be in his front yard I caught a reporter on Monday morning. I was told oh, I'm busy. I'll do that next week It'll be there next week. I reported he put windows in on the Saturday He told me I was on mouth. Oh, that's too far gone It's not it's too far but my favorite my my pervulose up for two months before somebody sees it and it's not too far gone I don't understand what's the rules of being too far gone? What's not if you're gonna Google maps? You can see it's one of those different You never put a permit for windows why in here? I Just don't get it. He put papers in his yard. He's not in here. He didn't get a permit I know he did because he asked me to put my papers in like the next step you finish mind the guy just jumped over his side to do it with a death over his mind. So I don't know how is your and my backyard doing alleyway it is overgrown with bushes you can't get back there and then scratching up your car to take a picture of my backyard but the neighbor don't be nothing that said to him I don't understand that. And you called in and you filed your complaint with him? I called I said said you hear on record that I was I felt like I was being treated unfair I have a just I have a trader you wrote me up for traders in my yard, okay? I'm a small business loader. I don't have money to right now to pay for something So if I leave a dump trader if I get off a job at 60 o'clock at night You guys are closed. I leave at five in the morning If he rides by my house in afternoon, he's not working if I get home from a job late and my trailers hook to my trailer to my truck In my foot yard he writes me up and tells me my trailer can be this I mean I leave that five in the morning with my trailer That'll be covered under the violation that's following this one. That's what I'm saying I don't I don't see how though if it's my property if I put it to my yard I'm not on the sidewalk. I'm not on the side of work. I'm not nothing. In my yard, my truck hooked to my tree hooked to my truck. How am I in violation? I can't eat my stuff in my yard. So, from purposes of the code, I can't speak to cases that are not before the magistrate for consideration, but I can consult with staff and find out, you know, what complaints have been made and where we're at, you know, when we're not in hearing. But there isn't an opportunity for you to go to Munichode. It's called municode.com. Now for the land development regulations, if there's a violation of the LDRs, you would have to download the PDF from the website, because it's not on Munichode. Munichode covers all of the provisions that are in our code of ordinances that are applicable to real property located within the corporate limits of the city of Lake Alfred. Now as a property owner you're held to have constructive notice of those codes because they are a record and I would recommend that you look to Munich code. If you have a question, it has to interpretation. You can always contact the city official or the code department or building or planning to get interpretation as to what something might mean because obviously I know if you're I say lay person but I say that it's not derogatory. If I were to go and try to work on a car and I was to try to describe that to you, I would be a lay person as there as a mechanic. So it's receivable that you might need an interpretation as to the scope of what a provision provides. But if you call the city, you should be able to get that direction. But you need to be able to reference the code of ordinances and the LDR as an order to know what is and what is not permitted within the corporate limits of the city. And a lot of property owners and residents are unaware of that particular website that you can go to to get that information, but just be cognizant of the fact that those are of record. it's available. So in the eyes of the law you have constructed notice of it. And I would recommend if there's any questions go to that look through it the best you can if you have a question called the city before you take action because this is the one forum where it's not better to ask for forgiveness than permission because if you if you leave my house right now today, I took these pictures about a month ago. I got pictures of three cars parked beside the road, facing the road with no license plate, expired license plate, machinery, and people's yard and sister for a month not moved. And I took pictures every week of them not being moved. And mine gets moved every day and it has a bad tag on it. And I work every day and it has a bad tag on it and I work every day and I only bring it there when I When I finish the job and I'm in on the Friday or early that finish the job I have it there I will go Friday would have come back a week and Monday It's going into another job and I got pictures of cars with no license plate trash if people yard They save equipment if people yard and I don't see none of them here I'm the only one here. This is a two-month picture that I got for every week. The same car and the same driver with black tires, everything. And I'm the only one here for my stuff. I don't get it. Okay. For my ass, you tell me, oh, you're on the main road. I'm sorry. You just live on the main road. That's not an answer you give a residence to ask you. Why is nobody else getting rid of it? purposes of what's before me right now and the case that's front and center. Let's get it wrapped up because I think we're getting into the new violation, the parking violation. So let's resolve this one. On the request for the supplemental order case number 2024-00001R. I am going to enter an order, finding that the assessing the additional fines that are crude through the date of compliance. So that will be the supplemental order will be for $15,900 plus assessing additional city costs for $59.21. Those costs being payable within 30 days of today's date. Again, there is now that you are in compliance, there is a reduction process. You can make an application and come back to explain why there was a delay in compliance there. So, let's go now to under New Business case number 2024-0040. Again, property located at340 West Cure Street, Decider for Following Codes. Section 106.3, Declaration of Enducence, Demand for Correction. Section 302.8, Motor Vehicles. Section 32-61, Abandonment prohibited, section 4.4.3.2, nine standard vehicle parking. Notice of complaint. As has been stated, this has been going on a long time. Notice of complaint was 08 24 23. Notice of violation was 07 24 24. Native inspection was 0905 24 9 compliant. Native reinspection 09 16 24 half a David of compliance. Service of process and notice was provided for silenced with large all. Public postings as required. Parking of vehicles construction, the treatment and trailers has been an issue addressed since May of 19 of 2023. Note the damage concrete water meter box and the door hanger dated May 24, 23. Picture taken 8, 24, 23. Construction equipment parked in the front yard and the proximity of the city water meter. There's a five foot utility easement on the house side of the sidewalk. Picture on left, taken on 040424 as a triaxle flatbed trailer park in residence of district. Senator picture taken on 41624. Flatbed trailer still parked in front yard. Picture on right, taken 050224 as a construction dump trailer parked in the residential district. Picture on left, take a 0604 24 flatbed trailer parked in front yard and proximity at damage water meter as seen in the center picture. Picture on right, take a 0607 24 a damaged water meter box, which is sustained even more damage. Also note, this water meter box was a replacement box by the city of the concrete box that was damaged as seen in the slide from 823 above. This water meter box is installed in a utility easement and not intended to be in the area of vehicle traffic. Picture on left taken 06 1024 is in the abandoned vehicle with an expired tag of 2021 parked in the alleyway behind the residence. Also parked in the alleyway as a skid loader in a triaxle construction trailer. Fisher on 07, 1024 of construction trailer in front yard, skid loader backo, and triaxle flatbed trailer stored behind the house. Picture taken 07, 24 still trailer still parked in front yard construction equipment and abandoned auto still stored in alleyway. No this tag was from 2021 this is not a matter of a tag being expired for a month. Picture on left, take an O71824 flatbed trailer stored in front yard. Center picture taken O72524. Don't trailer parked in front yard. Picture on right. Constructing equipment and truck trailer combo blocking alleyway behind the house. All pictures taken on 729-24. Don't trailer still in the front yard, skid loader trailers, and various materials stored in alleyway, brapping through access. Picture on left is of a box truck parked in front yard utility easement and proximity of the damage water meter. Construction equipment still stored an alloy way behind residents and causing through traffic to route into a joining backyard, complete received from adjacent property owner. Picture taken on 08,24, don't trailer and chart. Parked in front yard. Storage construction materials. Still rocking alleyway and for axle trailer. Still parked in residential district. 82924, don't trailer. Still parked in front yard. Tri axle trailer parked in residential district Picture on left Take a 0830 Trailer parked in front yard center and right pictures taken 0903 24 don't trailer start still parked in front yard Picture on right as a triaxial trailer still stored in residential district. All pictures taken 0905 24th time of posting for this hearing. Don't trail in vehicles removed from front yard center picture as the damage water meter box located in the utility mitigation the sidewalk picture on right is a triaxial flatbed trailer still parked in the residential district contact was made with the owner of the property he gave no permission for the trailer or equipment to be parked in his park in his property or the alleyway. Picture taken on 916-24. Front yard is cleared to vehicles. Alleyway and adjacent properties are cleared of all. Constructions material, trailer's equipment, as well as abandoned vehicle. Property is now in compliance. Mr. Navarro is a contractor and has a history of parking construction equipment and trailers in the front yard and alleyways. Staff recommends find the property and compliance has a 916-24. Establish, repeat, future parking violations at $50 per day. Award Administrative Cost of $99.86. Okay, thank you. The date of compliance again was 916. I made multiple trips to see if it had all been cleared and finally cleared. Okay. All right. Thank you. And you are requesting that I set a repeat offense fine today. If repeat offense is involved, I believe that it would be, it would be, let me know that there would be a fine involved if it does reappear. Clarification, you're asking for an order of fine and violation, no fine imposes the properties and compliance. Correct. And any future violation of the same cited code section would be a repeat offense. Correct. So there's no fine being sought for imposition today, just notice to the property owner that any future violation would be considered a repeat violation. Right. So the matter would have to come back before me if there is a repeat offense alleged for hearing and fine would be set at that time. Okay. Mr. Navarro, you've heard the testimony by the Code Enforcement Officer. What would you like me to take into consideration on this particular case? I mean, he just read the last, I don't think there's an every day, but the last three days he just read you was 816, 823, and 830. If you look up the calendar as every Friday he comes by and takes a picture. The box truck somebody visited me on for lunch and I had lunch with him at my house as my uncle. I can't tell you can't put one of them on part of truck aggers in the street. He can't help visiting me now. That was a one day. He'll never show you that truck in my yard. He came and he said, Hey, I'm down here. He lives in in France. If you say I got a job down here, you want to have lunch. I said my wife goes to lunch. I'm in my neighborhood. Come by with me. Lunch at my house. It ain't like the man comes being arrested. If somebody comes to visit me and parks right there worst at Hale Park, I put my truck in a driveway and the T Park right there. That flat bed trader, I drove around this neighborhood right here, you got flat bed traders if people yard every single day. Nobody's here for invitations. I got pictures of machines in New York every single day no violations. A block behind my house, there's a red Mustang vendor for over a year with no license paid on it. And he's not here today. The price of 300 I'm going to prove that that that car is a it's a it's for sale and dealership. It has a it has a 38 tag in the back window and the guy keeps renewing it. He was getting worked on it on a He's more than though that car has a 38 tag every day for the only, every, when it expires, he brings you about another one. I'm going to bring it in and says, I moved it to another location because he was telling you that it's not expired. I just went to I came here to show you guys. You can go to my house right now. I'll show you the tag. He puts a temporary tag in the back window. It was never expired. That's not a violation I know I'm not getting fine, but I just feel like my boat does not sit in my house I take my kids out to the lake and I get home on a Saturday night late is there Sunday maybe Monday after I get off work And it means that's my house. I pay for my house. I. How can I not have a boat in my front yard for a day after I take my kids down the lake to half one? I think I'm just being a rat if you want to switch it. Is parking of any type of either automobile or the boat qualified for no parking on the beach? It does, but the primary issue here is he's parking on an easement of damage he's sitting for offered. It's inside of his sidewalk. If it was parked off to the side, it'd be another thing. I've talked to Mr. Navarro a number of times about where he parks that equipment. The guy that lives in the house to the east side of him cannot see to get out. The men there are 500 people. You can't see to get out. It is an issue. The damage of the city, the main water line runs down under these utility box. The damage to those utility boxes is an issue. So if we measure my property right now, it's 75 by 150. The five foot easing I believe is from the sidewalk to the road is not five foot back to my house. He's wrong about that. My property line says 150. My is a hundred and a hundred and fifty five feet. Those because you had a five foot sidewalk they put in the sidewalk in the right way. I worked with searching I've built sidewalks every single day. The right away is from the sidewalk to the road not from the sidewalk inside my house. They're not a five foot easy. Well, let me let me ask you this Mr. Navarro, I mean, you've pinpointed certain instances and said, you know, that those were exceptions or that was someone visiting, but there are multiple dates with multiple violations regarding the tri-axle trailer. Yes. Don't body trailer, single-axle trailer. No, they're all double-axle and there's no triple-axle. If you show the picture of that trailer, you only have two axles on it. Construction, backhoe on trailer. Yeah, that's when I come home. That's where I keep working. I keep my equipment served. If I come home late and that season's not going to friday or Thursday night, we're going to park my trailer. Well, unfortunately under the code, there's as I read it, there's not exceptions. I mean, that type of parking is prohibited, notwithstanding the circumstances. So, based on the evidence and testimony, I appreciate that there may be certain circumstances here where there are exceptions or there are explanations, but there's an abundance of evidence to support that there were just violations of the provisions of the code. And it's not within my purview to determine whether the code is being uniformly applied to you and to other property owners. the issue that comes before me was there a violation. The testimony by the city code enforcement officer is that the property is now in compliance. So I'm going to enter an order finding that there were violations of the parking provisions of the city code, but that the property is in compliance. Therefore, there is no fine. I will assess the city's cost, the amount of $99.86, those will be payable within 30 days of today's date. And as I've been mentioned, because there's a finding that there was violation, even though the property is in compliance, that's going forward in the future, if there's a violation even though the property is in compliance that's going forward in the future if there's a violation of the parking provisions that will be a basis for a determination of repeat offender status. You know, about OK that $99 what happens? The $99.86 the city will likely, I can't speak to what they will do do but they could put that in the form of a lien against your property at some point it'll become a lien against your property as well as any other property that you would either own or could purchase under your name within Polk County for seven years. I don't agree with that one. I'm not going to pay that. I'll take the lean. I feel like, man, I spend so much money on stuff for my kids and a boat in my front yard. You know how many people have a boat in front yard yard and not to be in making worse worse about it? And the alley he drives every day, there's a mobile home, a pool behind trader on the side of the alley, you know, nothing's wrong with that. I showed him what everyone in electrical cords to the mobile home, nothing will stand up on it. They're not here. I'm the only one here sitting here and in the same alleyway The guy who let me park the trailer of the yard the picture of the trailer the tri-trailer Then the cops came out on last Thursday and the landlord said I didn't give permission I said well you want to hear sir. We asked me who live in the ridders They said yeah, we told me to park it there, but we know it was a new problem. I moved it the same day. If he would have went in and knocked over the door and asked me where we were written, they would have said, yeah, but he contacted only, he's supposed to. It looks bad, but they told me I can park it there because he was able to sit in the way of the alleyway. So in that same, and in the alley, I showed him where there was a camp or part there with electrical running from the house out to the camp on the ground. Nothing said it. He said, oh, it's COVID. Like, whoa. So there's no COVID for me. I go to work for him. Sun up the sun down. I was like today, I was going to have 419 a year on time. Because I caught up, I was like seven. And I'm just to be respectful to you, you guys, you guys have nothing to do with it. I should have been here a little early. I've had But I come to work every day man for a living for my six kids Honestly, and I'm okay $100 of my hard earned money just as somebody thinks of both in my front yard as a problem I don't agree with it man. I that my traders. I don't make millions of dollars You know I risk my risk my money every day form bus in my ass every day for him Just to write it on the pick my house and it's underway only to me. I don't feel like it's right. And I don't. And I'm the type of guy I'm gonna stand up for what's right. I did it. The people that pulled a permit. That's another story. And that's time with all my my construction stuff. I paid the fine. I had 100% do not agree with what's going on with this parking stuff. I don't agree with it. I'll'm not going to let so many rational. I'm not 100 percent. If I got a lot of court, I'll spend one in a volume of what a court would like to say, some 100 bucks. Because I have 100 of pictures in the phone of the same violation within a block of my house and nobody's been here. Well, and you may want to confer with counsel as what your options are at this point. But for purposes of this immediate case on this new violation regarding parking, I am going to enter in order as I indicate it. OK? That's fine. All right. Do that put a link from now. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next is case number 2024 dash0049R, this property located at 180 Ramona, Avenue, North. Good afternoon. Mr. Watson, patient number 2024, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, Section 302.1, Sanitation and Storage of Material. Prior order of finding violation was Case Number 2023, 0, 0, 0, 0, 39, dated 52224. Data Reinspection 91624. Half a day of the violation 91624. It should be in 91644. Public postings 090524 AS required. Pictures of backyard provided by police department taken September 7, 2024 sanitation and storage of material violation of Section 302.1 MPMC. Pictures of backyard provided by police department taken on 07, 2020, 4 sanitation and storage of material in fire. Well, fence line has got Tonkin debris on it. Both directions. Picture taken May 22, 24 property and violation of section 106.3 and 302.1. White truck up on jacks, wheels removed, storage of an operable vehicle and violation of Lake Alfer minimum property maintenance code. Property has been declared to repeat nuisance property prior case 2023, triple 039, closed on April 18, 24. Picture taken 05, 24, an operable vehicle stored behind, stored and being repaired, stored on property, and operable vehicles. This is a Zoom picture of the ATV up on the lift. Store items under in between White Truck and ATV, 302.1. On A1324 now there's two white trucks with a second truck stored on property being disassembled. On 08, 2024 RV trailer loaded with junk parked on side of house. White truck was being disassembled, being repaired gone. Now a black truck being stored in disassembled. That's the yellow line. There's a close-up of the black truck with junk parked or stored on side of house. Black truck being disassembled, still stored in driveway. White truck on the other side of black truck. Up on Jack still stored in driveway. 108-22-24 RV and trailer loaded with junk still parked on side of house, black truck being disassembled, still in driveway. New synth continues. 182-724, white RV gone, junk trailer gone, black truck gone. Some junk still behind white truck. Jack's under white truck front end still being stored on property. 08, 28, 24 white truck still on jacks. Still junk pile behind it. Now a dual axle flatbed trailer backed into the driveway. 0903, 24 white truck still on jacks. Now flatbed on site either delivering or picking up an engine. There's an engine on that trailer. I assume that went into the white truck. Oh, no, that... Oh, 9-05-24. At time of postings for this hearing, the unoperable white truck is up on a flat bed. 091624 flat bagged, douche neck trailer, again parked adjacent to the on the vacant lot, and now appears a boat and driveway. On 018, 24 white boat the on motor home has now been towed there and apparently a native repair. These neck, flatbed, trailer, steel, park, under-jacent lot. Three cap. This property has became a repeat nuisance less than one month after the prior case was closed and continues to be a nuisance property. Staff recommends finding a repeat violation of a nuisance continuous to exist. Prior order 2023-39 no fine was established stating that repeat offense would be subject to fines. Staff recommends $50 per day from 05-22-24 to 09-16-24-118 days for $59-100 and a $50 per day thereafter until the property is brought into compliance. Awarded administrative costs for this year of 107-14. These are all pictures that I showed Mr. K for the majority of them when he came into the office. Just a question I have on the certification of fines there's in one column it says 5350 and then another column says 5900 is that a all right it should be one hundred eighteen days of 59 one hundred eighteen days of 50 dollars per day okay I'll just turn the figure out what the 5350 was referencing. Okay, anything further from the city? I know Mr. Kay did come into the office about a week and a half ago. And it explained to me he does have a problem with a particular tenant. And he was trying to rid himself of the tenant, but the ongoing news is continues on this property. So this is where we are today. Okay. And the... This one second 3.1 I believe is the one that covers an awful vehicle as well as junk in debris Okay, all right, thanks Good afternoon. What would you say your name for the record please? Robert the okay, gee. And Mr. K you are the owner of the property. Correct. Okay. What have you looked around? You have heard the testimony and seen the evidence presented by the city. What would you like for me to take into consideration today? The vast majority of the complaints that I was aware of at the last time I was in here, which was the first time I was in here, were about debris related to people at my home that seemed to have taken up a career in jumping. To free in the front yard, just a mess. And I said that I would kick them out if that continued. And in Deseret in the Col Afrographs case, that's what I didn't July before I was even aware. That was still violating. And I'm still removing things that Deseret had cluttered up July before I was even aware that was still violating. And I'm still removing things that Desiree had cluttered up the house with. In the case of the vehicles, I don't have a driver's license for a soft drive. I just have an ID. None of these vehicles are mine. They are tenants, vehicles, or people who make the residents, I should say. Not really tenets. I don't have, I'm charged and delivered there. But everything I was shown here either belongs to Jason Bowman who were currently resides at my residence and when I was made aware that I was still in violation I decided I was explained to me how I was in violation because some of the pictures I was shown, it wasn't like there was a mess for a hundred and a hundred and I don't know how many days. It's like there might have been something going on and then it's playing down. But I wouldn't have known that some of these things were even violations because I do, I've seen just four doors down, I've seen a car on with missing wheels for nine months and it's like no wheel. There's tires in the yard of one of the properties a few doors down to. Not that the properties are messy, it's a very nice neighborhood actually. But some of the complaints, I wouldn't have gotten, but then again I wouldn't have created that mess either. So I decided that it was best to move Jason Bowman out of my property and I went to the personal expense of Getting him an RV and getting I'm getting him out of Lake Alfred entirely because he seems to have other people other city Departments that don't like any there. So I think it's best for all involved if he wasn't just just a news that moved down the road as soon as I'd taken out, which is too awful what happens when he kicks him out of the fence. They know someone else in town and then they'll play whack and roll. Rather, I think a more rural setting would be better for him. Maybe a setting with more of a dual use setting, like, you know, where it's residential and industrial. I don't know. Because he works on vehicles don't know because he does work some vehicles that's what he does and I haven't succeeded in getting him out yet because the RV had a fuel line problem it was it it caught out at Wells Fargo in Kansas City a few days back and it was towed to my house and it's being repaired and I was told by him that either tonight or tomorrow he'd have it out and he'd be on his way. He wouldn't be bothering Lake Alfred anymore. As for me, I don't, I don't, I don't, I said I don't even own a vehicle. And most of the things being described as debris in the backyard, those are Jason's belongings. They'll be out within 30 days of him leaving. So my wife might say Jason's leaving. I mean, his residence, he hasn't, he's worried, where he puts his bed down, where he puts his head down at night to sleep. Not, his son is belongings. where he puts his bed down, which is head down at night to sleep. Not. If someone is belongings, they're going to take time to get out of my property because it's a significant number. He's got a garage full of tools. Now, he's going to have to take a trailer and load it up a couple times before he's going to be on his way completely. And I haven't really made any return visits to film enforcement to say things are clear because they've been off and off while he's moving. So it seems like, until he's gone, it doesn't seem like there's anything for me to say, it seems like that's the solution until it's implemented completely. Well, it appears that this is a repeat offense case based on the fact that there was a previous order entered for similar violations and then the property was found to be in compliance. But now under this new citation it's under repeat offense status. And based on your testimony while I appreciate the fact that you're saying you don't drive and none of this stuff is yours. Unfortunately for you as the owner of the property you're responsible for, whatever accumulates there regardless of its ownership and whether they're tenants or guests or whatever it still comes back to you. And also unfortunately as long as these vehicles and trailers and things remain on the property or come and go on the property, it will continue to accumulate a daily fine. But I do find that based on the evidence and testimony presented that this is a repeat offense case, a repeat violation, commencing on May 22nd of this year, being asked by the city to certify through the 916 date, 118 days, and this is requesting $50 a day. So I'm being asked to certify through that 916 date, the amount of $59,000 together with assessing costs, the amount of $107.14, which I'm going to enter in order accordingly. Additionally, a $50 day fine will also continue to accrue until the property is brought into compliance. Okay? So, and just communicate with the city once you believe you've got everything taken care of so that the clock stops ticking and then there is a application process as you've heard earlier today for reduction and fines. All right, so the only reason I mentioned that I'm not a driver is to give you some assurance that these kind of problems won't be created by me directly. That my solution of moving Jason out will solve the problem. That's all. I appreciate that. I didn't take that as an excuse on your part. It's just the reality is under code enforcement, it's the owner of the property that's ultimately responsible. Ten under code enforcement, it's the owner of the property that's ultimately responsible, tenants, guests, everything are viewed to be under the control of the and the responsibility of the owner. So it all comes back to you as the owner. Okay. So again, in case number two, 2024-000049R will enter order. Assessing repeat offense fine for the dates of May 22nd through September 16, 118 days at $50 a day for a total of $5900. And additionally $50 a day continued to run until the properties and compliance, assessing the city's cost amount of $107.14. Those costs being payable within 30 days of today's date. Okay. For the fine, how long do I have to pay back? Is it here? The fine that their final continued to run into your properties and compliance. And then, the properties and compliance apply for a reduction and we can come back and look at it again. Okay. There's no reason for you to pick up a reduction form now. If you do, there's one on the desk. You can have it filled out and the quicker youkyard, you can get him out of there. The quicker we can get you back in here. Because the order will be recorded. It won't be, you know, it's there. No, I'll be visiting you as soon as you go. Okay, so I'm just going to wait for your call. I'm not going to come by. If I do see people over there and I happen to be coming down the road, I know it's going one way. Okay. All right. I think I'm going to clarify for the record that the city is not telling you how to bring the property into compliance for the city is not requiring a tenant to be evicted or removed. Compliance is completely within your discretion on how to bring the property into compliance. But if that is the method that is being taken once the property is in compliance, please notify the code officials for reinspection. I have no confidence that I could control him for some reason, like to his many years recently to prevent this from repeating so. My wife would tell you the same thing about me. Okay. I'm sorry, I just I just He doesn't belong He's a foreigner barn Okay, I hear from you Good morning You got a guy right out there and take a private card Or rather if you're going to pay a cash, you got to go for a business tree No, they picked her up I'm going to pay a tax, you've got to go to the office. I'll be quick right now. One other time. One of the second, one of the second, one of the second, one of the second, one of the fourth. Okay, well they wrap up. For the record, and as reflected on the agenda, the case number three was stricken by the code enforcement. So case number 2023 dash, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, although it was initially on the agenda was stricken. All right, anything else? And... I just, man, I ever heard. No, Laura? Let's go. Hey, we're still on record. We're still on record. Okay. Next hearing date, October 17. We're adjourned.