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All right, do you want to get rolling? Yeah. Should we call to order the March 13th meeting? We have prior meeting minutes to approve. Did we check to make sure Cindy's not? Yeah. I didn't. I didn't get out of the other ones. I did change them. OK. Move to approve the minutes. I second. All in favor. I. All right. And can we do a roll call first? Oh, sorry, forgot that part. Anna Stasia Keidlinga. Cynthia McCoy. Loaded nice welcome. Joe McDonald for the town of Frazier. Sarah Wick, town of Frazier. Palli McDermott. And Fairy Crandall. Okay, and then did Kenzie get let in? Looks like she just, there's Robin. Okay, so we've got Robin Barrett as well. Cool. And Kenzie. And Carrie Crandall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, um, do you need them to say their names? No, that's okay. Okay. So approval of the agenda. I moved to approve the agenda. A second. All in one. I think I'm going to have to go to the next one. I think I'm going to have to go to the next one. I think I'm going to have to go to the next one. I think I'm going to have to go to the next one. I think I'm going to have to go to the next one. I think I'm going to have to go to the next one. Do you have any? No, I think I felt good. Okay. Okay. I'm having a problem. Oh, you're on mute. She's on mute. Okay. Thanks for coming. Thank you. Cool. I did want to share a little feedback that I got from one of the artists just even I'll meet a little while ago maybe about changing a few things, but I had a little bit of Maybe a couple things we could work on. She suggested the artist meet and greet, which we previously used to do on Thursday evenings, but not very many artists showed up to check in the night before, just because it's a whole extra night of lodging. So Sarah and I chatted, maybe we could figure something out for Friday evening. Got one of the breweries or even in the park. So I definitely want to see if we can work that out. I think that sounds great. Yeah. She did say the stipend wasn't enough for lodging. And I don't know. I feel like the stipend is a lot for lodging. I'll watch you. I'll watch you. 600 bucks. I guess not for the whole weekend, but are we required, like, is that standard that the mural professor would pay for a whole weekend? I don't know. She made a lot of comments about how a lot of these things do provide free lodging. Obviously that's not something that I want to dig into because it's been a headache for other things that we've done. I'm sorry. Is this a first-time artist or return artist? I think she was first-time and And she lived a little high maintenance. 300 night for Friday night and Saturday night, I think is totally good. It's very fun. Yeah, she had said a few things about it just like, you know, kind of exploiting the artist because it doesn't cover supplies that would only cover lodging and, you know, food or whatever for the week. So it changes the class and diversity. Well, I'm artists. This is like a great opportunity for us to as we grow, you know, like just try to evolve and take some of these considerations. You know, we can take what we want, leave what we want, but definitely another question in the line of Joe's, at least I think it's in the line. Is she like a well-known artist or is this her first mural fest ever or mural? You know, like, is she? I know. Have a lot of experience. It sounds like she has. She said that she's been a part of the non-profit world, so she had a bunch of feedback about some of the voting and a bunch of other stuff too, but we haven't had her. So I don't know. Okay. And with the style of painting, I don't know. Is this has this been an issue with other people who have been here for multiple years? I've said and we've got people come from Florida. Right. The one guy with like the Pegasus last year, she was the first one to apply. So she's coming from Florida again. And the woman who has something at all works the, that's on show at the, at the exhibit, or you know, the place. What is the name of that mouse? Lucky mouse. Oh, me. Oh, yeah. I love the Miannaki Rats. You know what? Love that. Look that. Let's start a Frazier branch. She's the Miannaki Rats. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. She's... Oh, meowl. Yeah. I love the Rocky Rats. Rocky Rats. You know what? Love that. Love that. Let's start a Frazier branch. Yeah. She's a fairly well-known, the one or two years ago was a nationally known, you know, list. And so I believe that we should always try to consider what the feedback is. Yeah. to weigh it with certain grains of salt. And people have been participating for some of them for four and five years now that don't see that as too much as an issue, especially with their eyes on the prize of what might happen to be a bit in that one more than pay for lodging. Yeah, definitely. And I can look up some of the, we only have like 13 applicants so far, that see see where they're from and I mean, I don't feel like that's swayed people too much. Yeah, I think I was 600 last year and five the year before. Yeah. Yeah. And that's really not very nice. I don't think it's too much to ask them to provide their own supplies. And no, if the stipend covers lodging, and we try to get a couple meals provided, maybe we could work a little more to get some more meals provided. I mean, I feel like we had burritos and a lunch at the distillery and discounts at other places. I mean, the stipend isn't necessarily for lodging either. You can just use it for whatever. There are some who come in camp. Right. Yep. And that's what I want. Supplies lodging food. I mean, I've got Florida, Tennessee, Florida, Michigan. Um, Tim is from Canada. He applied again. Maybe we consider next year since the rising cost of just life. Next year adding like 52. Yeah, I guess my other solution was maybe we could figure out if we talk to like gravity house or holiday in and see if we can get a group discount. So if they book before you know June 1st or whatever then they get a group discount on that. So yeah, if anybody knows. Do you, does somebody want to talk to you? The, um, is that Holiday Inn? Yeah, Holiday Inn and Gravity House. I can talk to Gravity House. I'm a member there. Okay. Cool. I have another one that it could be really good that I feel is not really busy in the summer. It's a little bit far away is the village, the vintage hotel in the resort. That one is really really really big. And yeah, I can talk those as a resort. Yeah, I think anything. Yeah, and I think if we just, if we had a group rate where they book by a certain amount of time, then, you know, I mean, even just a little bit of discounted something, I don't feel like the resort's that far. Even the why would be fine. And there's bus rooms. Yeah. Till the resort, which is handy for those coming from Florida. They're, well, I guess, yeah, they're probably, if they're coming from anywhere, they have a car in it here, right? No, the people from Florida, they take the train. But, you know, they all take the train. They take the train. But most everybody else knows absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So I just thought that would be something good to offer. But if there are this many concerns with that artist to begin with, I think that that should be considered. And the selection process. Yes. Very much so. She hasn't applied yet. So. She had also said the sales of the mural were extremely low and suggested charging $10 per square foot to start the bid, which would be $640 to starting the bid. And it doesn't want to be here. Yeah. And I just I feel like that's not possible. changing that is not feasible. I think we start low and we still don't sell some of them and some of them only have the one bid last year we upped the changing that is not feasible. I think we start low and we still don't sell some of them and some of them only have the one bid last year we upped the the bidding to $50 instead of $25 per and some of them went for a lot and some of them didn't and that suggestion would be if she if we she wants to do that She can always buy it herself. Well, and that was what I said Well, you know what happens if they don't sell because we're charging $640, then we're in charge of I still have one. I think I emailed him but yeah, that was another thing that I didn't think we could change. She also offered some insight on the voting and said that should only be on the final day as murals don't come together until you know, the very end and then have like, you know, a day where the artists are still here and they get to chat up all the people who are voting and blah blah blah, which is great but it's a fundraiser and if somebody wants to buy tickets and vote on Friday afternoon when there's nothing but a couple scribbles, I don't I don't know if we should change that Again, just some tiny feedback it might limit the fat and but it still wouldn't limit the family buying You know on the final day. So yeah, that's no I mean we can encourage people to check out the murals when they're finished obviously, but I don't I don't know I think that that would be a tough one to change since it is a fundraiser. I have to go. So I'll be back. I've got the dogs in a dog situation. Uh oh yeah and she ran out. We can't find her. So we'll see you all. They do that. That's why Apple created those chips. Well we're faster if I Oh, no. Yeah. Okay. And then I did want to see about the photo booth time. We had Skinner 12 to 4 in town, which I thought was really fun. But I also thought maybe he could be at the awards ceremony. And that's a great idea. I thought that would be fun too, since we'll hopefully be in the park. Excuse me. Yeah. I have in participates of the mural festival in the years before. Yeah, so I would like to have if you have from previous years a program how it's not on the website. Yeah, I think if you we could probably screen share it and show the timeline of it. Um, can I screen share what day of what happens with yeah, but I this at the end. Yeah. Um, Do you want to screen share it or do you want me to? Okay. But to your point, Callie, are you thinking that did I hear you mention that you thought the awards ceremony would be in the park? Yeah. I think last meeting we voted that we would do it here instead of at a town or a business in town. So we could have a band. And Cindy, you'll be excited about this one. I did reach out to dealer takes four and they're available. So we could also vote on either having them or continuing to look for other stuff. But yeah, I think here would be a little more centrally located. I would go back to a point that I raised a year or two ago that I believe that we should start trying to utilize the the performance area that we have for fire and ice and other things and start kind of drifting that direction to the line so I'm using that park as opposed to this park necessarily for for a different kind of thing. I don't have to, it's certainly, it's that up here for things to kind of happen here. And it is kind of, but it's kind of easy to find both of them, but as we transition into larger things, starting to establish an area that is, if I'm going to go go to something that this town is kind of having the function eventually picnic is going to get too big for probably here too, don't you think? It's pretty close now. Well, you have plans is to have a gazebo or a, you know, shelter over there, right? There is the shelter that's already there, but the bike park will be going in there eventually for creating. We're having music and events, I mean, obviously. It's as large as this one if not larger. Oh, that's so. But it's an idea. Okay. I do like that. Yeah. I mean, obviously, I think this park is closer if we have the similar layout. We've got a lot of murals over here. and we just struggle so much with parking over at Lyons Ponds. That's true. Uh... We've got a lot of murals over here and we just struggle so much with parking over at Lions Ponds. That's true. Unless we re-evaluate we're we're going to spread out murals and get a point. We have talked about moving all of the murals to Lions Ponds, but we can't do that. Back for you. No, well I I know because that will take it away from all the businesses. Yeah, but they don't put anything into this. I know. You know, but it's it's it's really more about the decision by the board. Like they want it to be in downtown by the businesses. It's more about what they want. Yeah. I mean sales. Sales tax. I thought that is 25 because Friday was not the first in 24. Yeah, it was. It just is old 24 schedule. But Friday was not the first. Oh. Did I change the same? Yeah, it was the second, third and fourth. Yeah. Well, whatever. It's too late now. Yeah. I could. You can just jump on my too. I like paper. I can print one and bring it next time. Yeah, so we had switched last year with the first year we did check in at 8 a.m. And I think I feel like that worked out really well. So I don't know if we should add a Thursday. I was hoping to encourage most of the artists to stay on Sunday, because I think Rebecca will do the fab market again. I thought they were talking about maybe doing that same weekend of rival in the park on the ninth. They are. Oh, no, is Rival in the park? Rival in the park is on the eighth and ninth. Okay, so that's a different one. Of course, that's to the Winter Park Chamber. That's the next weekend. Yeah. Because ours is the first, second and third. That is? No, the mural fest is first the first second and third. Fab is no, the mural fest is first second and third. So Fab would be the third. Oh, you're saying talking about doing the Fab market that weekend? Well, I thought Frazier Valley Arts said they were going to try to do Fab maybe during the same weekend as Rebel in the park. Okay, Frazier Valley Arts is not doing Fab. We're different. So we would probably set up something to get them down here, but I guess that's I can talk to Rebecca about. I just had written a note that yeah, that somebody was thinking about coordinating together. Yeah, I do have that in my notes too, but maybe it's two weekends. Yeah, just because yeah, okay, because it's so fab so bad yeah but that's all Rebecca at the distillery so I will talk to her okay um so I guess we can tvd where we want to have the live or the award ceremony. Probably work best here at the XS closer. Yeah. So I guess we can TVD where we want to have the lie or the award ceremony. Probably work best here at the XS closing. Yeah, I mean it is walking distance for people checking out murals, but I said yeah, I mean I do I do like your idea of doing more things that the lines. Although it would eventually be an app at the end of there, it would actually be. Yeah, which will make sense for how to. Just trying to force them to transition. Well, maybe that's something that we can think about too, is adding some other something to check out. That's very accurate. I think it's great here because of the playground for the kids. And there's nothing over there for that. Yeah. I guess we do have a quorum if we want to vote for having the dealer takes for? Anybody? Everybody loves that band. I feel bad that we weren't able to do weedles last year. Yeah. Almost feel like we need to give them a good amount anymore. They don't look here anymore. Yeah, that's true. They all moved away. That's true. I mean, everybody loves dealer takes for it. No, and it would bring out a lot more locals too. And you already discussed with the budget. Um, they were way more affordable than I thought they were going to be. Awesome. So, um, and I had originally reached out to them to see if they would be available on the Tuesdays, or picnic in the park, and they weren't. And so they had asked if there was any other weekend things that they could do. Just got dealer hats. You did? Yeah, nice. the green by the dealer hats to wear when they play Okay, so does anyone want to vote yes? Yeah, you're nay We obviously to hire dealer takes for for our awards party on August 3rd, 2025. Yeah. All those are in favor. Oh, in favor. Second. Second. Cool. I definitely think they would be really fun to have. And yeah, everyone in town really likes it. So, that's a great way to say a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah. been calling all the musicians there it's a lot and I mean I don't know what our budget is exactly for that if we do have space to add another one a little earlier in the day but I mean we can figure that out right I just I'm worried about adding music during the day because like they're not coming from remember we tried tried to do that. Oh yeah, no, I just mean like having a little band before. So if they were going to play or yeah, that bar, like, Well, I think we'll have KFFR at the park again for sure. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like I told them six to eight, five to six. We have somebody else, but we can, we can address that later if that is in the budget Cool so 6 to 8 sounds like a good time for them Awards at 6ish Whatever Cool sweet and then I I guess we'll keep the timeline pretty much the same. Sunday will be the close for the People's Choice Award like we did last year. And for the mural sales. If anybody is really in favor of doing the check in on Thursday night, we can. But I think I really liked it at simple coffee on Friday. And I think that was all of my things. If anybody, yeah, carry if you can do gravity house and you can do vintage just to see if there's any group rates. Okay, yeah, that would be really helpful. Yeah, I'm happy to do so. Just if you could email me the details I'm driving. So if you could just email me the details of the dates they would need, I'll try to get either 25 or 50% off the rack rate. Cool. Yeah, I think that'll be really awesome to offer. I don't know if that's a code or just until a certain date, whatever they want to work out would just be nice. Okay. Added thing, but yeah, I'll send you guys the dates. Thank you. Yeah. There are 30 murals. 30 murals. There is usually like five local awards, so that leaves about 25 things. Probably like 20, but probably with paid lodging. But upwards of 25, don't you think, Galley? Yeah. I would think so. Because the locals generally kept me to have their place already. If we do that many in this year, but otherwise the total maximum of the emergency study. And most of them that are coming can't will be willing to share around it. It's got two queens kind of there. I guess a lot of these two are two people three people. Yeah. Yeah, so I don't, I mean, if we just keep it at 30, maybe that evens out for some of those. Yeah. Okay, I'll send you some of those. Jade, Sid and Numbers. Okay, did you have anything else? The commission. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the location of the commission. We chatted briefly about Nick's mural on Canberra. It's kind of in poor shape. You might have some more feedback on that. We did say that maybe we could get the artist who did it to come back. It might be a lot of money to have him touch it up or we could redo that. There's not a point in touch. Yeah, you don't think so. Okay. Um, would the process for you, like, not extraordinary, I've already talked about it. Okay, first like sanding it back down to neutral. You wouldn't be, well, probably just power wash it in that private. Okay. So it's probably looking at two to three days of public works and necessity, you know, one person, two people people from there to do it. So it's definitely within the realm of possibility but I think we cost would be getting a sister jacket and I think I've even solved that. I think everybody have that expensive by using the box that we've got. And we also chatted maybe that could last for another year so if we choose something else for this year and have that be the one next year. It would probably last another year, but it is definitely showing serious signs of degree, degradation. It wasn't brought properly to the get. Okay, so the question is, do we want to make that the commission or do we want to just pay to have it redone. I like the idea of having them get the next commission. How long has that been up there? Four years? No six or eight. Yeah. It's been a while. I mean, it's a great wall. It's super visible from everywhere. That's the thing. Yeah. Plus, you spend twice as much money to go. So you'll have two places. That would be good. But is there another place that has the same kind of exposure that has the same kind of space? Yeah. No one's going to see the one from last year, the integrated grade school. You know, the game. Well, eventually it'll be covered. But when you'll be able to see it, when you drive into town. Yeah. But mostly if you know it's there. Yeah, the distillery has a new build kind of behind the distillery that they have on the the river that they asked for a mural on. Also not very visible from town. I was wondering what is okay to do like this now crazy, but okay behind the post office there is a tower that have a clock and that is like super black gray and I thought that would be like a really good space to pay something for like to highlight it with all the wheelers but I don't want it and we've talked about that Yeah, we have. I think it's horizon as well. Because I'm in a cell tower or something. There is something involved with it. Yeah, yeah. But it's probably on the other side, people live on that wall, which would be a great wall to have a year or a lot, but we require more extensive kind of preparation to be able to make it ready. And I think we have talked to them on a copy of vacation, starting with the very first year actually. Yeah, the whole post office. Well, in the post office, well, just as I'm in town. So it's kind of tied up in a slightly bigger tangle kind of thing who controls this is a Verizon that has the say, you have to be careful of messing with the microwaves that are in there. So there was a number of reasons why it hasn't been utilized before. But it's a perfect opportunity for sure. And that wall had to be like basically redone under like completely recited. Yeah. After ripping off. like basically read on and like completely recited. Yeah. Shin it to properly prepare the site so that we don't have the degradation. Yeah, it should probably be prepared by us because it's a huge amount of work. Sometimes it can be a huge amount of work. Sometimes it can be nothing like the concrete over here with the buffalo, you know, kind of existed. I think they did a little bit of prep work on it. But if it's something like the wall of a very old building like we've had, you know, we're contemplating the key one. Yeah. that it kind of cuts into their clinicians so much that it starts to make it, you know, we're contemplating with P1. Yeah. Then it kind of cuts into their clinicians so much that it starts to make it, you know, not as, that was attempting to do it right. That was gonna save a short step properly. It's gonna be showing not the ahead of time. Yeah. And so there usually only fear for about three to four days to kind of, and we cover that when we help with that. But it does require so much more complex physical effort to kind of process that and make it ready for as if public works can't usually do that relatively quickly with insurance, called the machinery and et cetera. So it's possible, but yeah, it's you know, and having forward certainly something a good idea to keep in mind. But I personally, as an opinion and not being a member of the board and not having a vote, not any of that, that the, it would be best to wait on the distillery building for another year until most of that major construction that's back in there. that's back in there will see that building. A lot more people will kind of be involved in that and there's a lot less chance of something happening during that construction than we're affected not. Yeah and I definitely agree to wait until there's just more stuff going on back there and it'll get more of the ability. There'll be some consistent construction back there for probably a couple of years. Yeah. But it's going to have full force now and there'll be a whole lot more people there and that probably will be other opportunities for commissions back in there as well. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to throw that one out there because they asked about it. Is there any other places that you know of Joe or that anybody has in mind for the commission? I'm going to jump. I've always thought that I could go on here. try and get the represent that you do outside the wall on a freezer and get some accessible lots of people see it. The inside wall is seen by a lot of people as well, but it's all the same like people who cop up the money to get in. It's supposed to be a public arts kind of, you know, kind of piece. But that's, you know, that's certainly a large canvas that is out there. Even the Foundry's got some nice wall space too. Yeah. And his have, they have some small, they kind of claim one of it one time. But I think that she would want to have more, she was not real happy with the way that it played out. Michelle, the answer to that. I love the one on the inside. I think that one looks a bit awesome. They just wanted to have more and put into the initial choosing of the artist. I know. Far out of one. That was it. That was me. So, the So approach them is not, I think we should still possibly do it. They decide not to give the Southern building, but that is something that would be interesting. Michelle? Yes. I thought I mean, would they hear when they show? I think they were as involved as anyone else has been. Or maybe she wasn't here that I don't know. They were. I don't remember that. Yeah, no, I ended up in the Netherlands. And so now I would say that wasn't the way that all parties walked away from them. Thank you. Okay. Well, she's not there anymore. So, but yeah, I mean, I feel like we could try to alter how we choose. It was a second place choice too, which had. So it was still in their top three? Yeah. I mean, no, that was not even close to your top three. Oh. Yeah, but it was a second choice, so the choice, the choice in making that artist, you know, that person was a little bit different than the here's the main commission, you know, kind of go through. So if it's a main commission, that's a very different kind of process. Gotcha. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, because that was the $3,000 section of the mural, then versus the $7,000. I see what you're saying yet. Yes. But I really don't want to get into it. No, no, I'm just kidding. The other one was the Buffalo. The other one was the rec center and where else? I swear it was the Buffalo. It probably was. Look at it right now. Yeah, I think so. Yes. I don't know. This is not having to decide on one side. It was what we had right here. We had all of them right here. That was the other one here. I don't know. That was probably was the loose on the vicious cycle. No, that one we definitely spent 10 grand on. No, I. At vicious cycle.. Yeah, but that was first check choice place that cut back on the first. I don't think I'd have too many of them. Yeah, I'll have to look. I could have swore it was this buffalo. But that was... The winner was over at Frazier River Beer Company, so... But we have people at Frazier River even when we have them on here. They were. Oh, yeah, right. They were right out over there. Okay. Yeah, but the rec center is in place. The side of the winery would probably meet quite a bit of attention, but it's a it's a large wall that is on Main Street. The wine, it took to either side for the porches or for the other. The other piece is it's a large wall that is on Main Street, on Dimmer and Winer, to either side for the porches or for the other pieces. It's a large canvas. Are they doing anything with the middle section of the Winer in the brewery? I have. I thought somebody had talked about there being like a whole patio inside there. I tried to do that at one point, but they had shot it down. Really? I'm so perfect. I know the large wall that fits in that alley, but it doesn't get seen. It's not as visible. It's the other one which is open to that because the other building is so close. Well, but that could be something fun to do. Maybe not having the entire wall painted, but going between the the alley. So it's on both sides, both of those buildings. So maybe not like full coverage. But it's your point. I think that building that was exterior walls need a lot of work. That exterior wall out of the winery with me, I'm quite a bit at work. Yeah, it's a very old building. It's a lot of things. It is, yeah, super cool. I've always kind of thought the hair salon. Oh yeah. The eye to that wall would be really cool too. Like driving south. Yeah. I don't know. With that, with me. Not super visible. Ace, I doubt would want a mirror on that building. I love that. Perfection. Um, they have to get in the right side. Cause the side of ACE would be perfect. That's what she just said. It's a great side of ACE, but they are not, I don't think she's been too encouraged by what. But they're nice people. I mean, with people asking, but it's a large catalyst that faces parallel to the road. I mean, we a lot of surfaces that might be very difficult for the artists to have deal with but if they're a really good artist and they take their ulcers probably used to that. What about the east side of the gazebo at Lion's Pond since we're hoping to pull stuff more toward that? What about the new bathroom or that back side of the gazebo? Is that big? Well the gazebo? Is that big? Well, the gazebo is open. Yeah, open air. Oh, OK. So it's just the posts. Yeah. The bathrooms are probably a bit of a question for this year. But it's a bit of a kind of comment to it over the next. Yeah, like that. And then a couple of years, that's definitely something that they'd be able to keep in mind. because we will all of them and we will kind of, but right now that's not. We don't know, all of the bathrooms that are going to stay there. TVD. Yeah. They exploded. So it could be a cool idea to take pictures and everybody bring a collage of pictures of all the sites that you see and share. But I think the most expedient, personally, I think the most expedient, the easiest thing to do is to keep that in mind for the following year, but for this year to try and use a big neural thread on the main grid. Okay. Which keeps it from having to be paid for twice, it it. Like, you know, grants and stuff. It can be propped and gotten too easy. It's a large canvas that is prominent. And it solves another problem. So it kills a couple of birds with one stone. Yeah. Are you saying it wouldn't be our Miro commission money to know it would be okay. Oh, okay. Sorry. You don't have to pay to kind of the cut, you know, not to pay the get somebody else to come in and touch it up, which is I think out of the question or to come in and just hang it all together. And I think putting it off a year is probably it will start to look real bad. Yes. Yeah. Um, is that something that you can have prepped and ready? And we could put like a banner that says, you know, future new mural or something? By the festival by the mural fest or is that it's possible, you know, that there's a lot of stuff to do to get to that point. Yeah, but I think that is certainly, you know, it's certainly possible. of we're taking the spring, it depends on how we're staffed. It's like, you know, but it it's not to kind of go through. But like I said, it's a two or three day process that'll take place over the course of the week. And we would have to get his approval to kind of go in there and to begin with. But I was planning, if we were going to do it, I was planning on trying to profit this spring when he's not gonna have on that patio. Yeah, and I'm just thinking if we do end up choosing an artist from, you know, Tennessee or Michigan, if it's ready to go and they just extend their stay. Yeah. And it's done then. Yeah. Obviously that would be ideal. Yes, I think that it would be more than 80 percent, you know, chance of probably be able to be propped and ready to go by that time. If the audience is online, 80% of our kids are like, I think he's a nice guy, Nick. And so, I mean, do you want me to reach out to him? It's probably better for someone official than to do it to them. But I would be more than happy to be there with you to talk about the process that would be required. And the small amount of inconvenience it might occur to him. Okay. And doing it to get it ready for the next. So if you want to decide something. I will. I'll email and copy you. They're just just to be clear for the recording and everything. It's the Pat's recommendation that it's the Commission Award. To be on Canberr? Yeah. All the same. Because he applied for a business enhancement grant and that was that was part of it. So that's kind of why this this discussion came up. So, there are people. Okay, yeah, I'm in favor. I was gonna say, cracking wise, if you needed extra hands, that could be a really great activity for us as committee, team of mining, roles and white paint on, good, you know, photo up. That's what it's like. So if you need the extra hand, this was something like that. If I do, yes. Yeah, photo-op. That's what it is. Like, so if you need the extra hand, if it was something like that. If I do, yes. Yeah, let us know. Yeah, so sometimes you do it with machines. Sure. And it's a little higher, I have to kind of have to think about it. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to over, but if you need extra hand, I think that could be a really nice thing for some of us to come out with. You could possibly, if you're subscribing. Yeah, yeah, a couple of hours. Like, you know, it's what we're here for is to help with that kind of stuff. Cool. Yeah, I do like that and it makes it a little easier than searching for a new building, especially when there'll be a few new buildings next summer. So you can start thinking now in terms of making your collage. So a lot of the idea of these are big. Here's the pictures of think you know to be addressing here. So we're running in the time constraints at this point. I know it's all the way to August but believe me. There's no being here because we know that. Now we'll be starting to think in terms of fine materials probably really soon. Placement of the murals we have to read about that wheel again this year. I don't think if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. I don't know if that's the case. What's the ski butler doing an extra one in the mural park and an extra one down in HTA just a cluster a few more. Yeah HTS probably about it's maxed for what I can get it yeah trees yeah but we are going to be losing a spot that that's just cycle the freezer with the brewery. the, not vicious cycle of the, uh, fragile, real, burying. We might be losing both of us. Plans go with the, the love that he's got there and what he's got. Yeah. And they're kind of set up. We'll have to talk to Brian and see whether you can actually get one or two of them in, uh, into their, okay. We have another spot to probably possibly deal with. We'll retuse box directly across the street last year for the first time. Yeah. That in that section. And so having them together but if we lose the two across the street we might need to move some of the double die. But as far as the basic structure, yeah I think that 120 zero the headwaters that we had that about as max out as we could get Okay, tree limbs down in front of there. Well a little bit farther down like the parking but that one was some parking. Yeah. I definitely am still in favor of trying to have three murals clustered together. I think two is hard. Well, two, but it was two because there was two across the street. Yeah, Yeah, definitely. But there was just the two at that ski butler place and two in that little grassy area. But I didn't like that one there. So, but I do feel like, yeah, same setup. We do have it walking through town. I just, I mean, I personally think having three or more murals closer together sounds better, but Where possible area constraints and totally things fall in over when the wind starts to Because that's place of the edge of bowler bird Would be really hard to fit it. I'm not going in Against the Many room to spread out for themselves. They The, you know, because that also affects the two that are at least tried to get to, I thought there was one maybe between the wider end. There were two there. I mean, I would still be in favor of putting even more back there and like having that whole space behind them blocked off. But I don't know. It's not our space. Well, I know I'm totally fine adding that to my docket of things to ask Nick. Yeah. I feel like that would just be such a good space to cluster five together. So. Yeah, well, honestly, we've been in this club together. It was a lot less work for me. Yeah, yeah, and I and I think that, you know, congregating them more is better. One of the other things about back there is emergency, the air growth and emergency vehicle access is one of the reasons it's kind of been off the board for that because they're being brought here. We get through and we can get them through the main drive-off for it. There were two at the line, we have these two together. I had also mentioned to Sarah that even if we blocked off the road right in front of Fishers from like Highway 40 to the entrance of that parking lot to the whatever it's called the little apartment building back there. Yeah not all the way to the Amtrak so just like that first half block would be kind of cool. In front of like highway 40 Fishers too like the White House not not all the way to the train stations. Like, it's so the vet clinic and the apartment building had access and like everywhere there and like yeah. That would be the half the block or the other half of the block from Autumn's nest to you know distillery entrance. Yeah. So I liked those I think we talked about that one year. That's East Um and Frazier Avenue. So also like I'm I'm light and dislike the location of the Info tent. Yeah. It was loud and there was a little preferable right at the beginning about stuff. So if we find a different location for that. That would be great. Well, and if we congregated more on those two half blocks and maybe got rid of HTA, then having the Miro Park or having the Info-10 at on the Fisher's Street would be more centrally located. And Skinner could be there too. So you mean nothing at the high water strittles? Yeah the five of them could move to that street closer into town. Yeah everybody liked that spot. I mean I'm sure the artist did too but yeah but just to like congregate even more. Yeah. I think if we were gonna move some, it would be the ones that are far north, those two. Definitely. And maybe the ones that were in between like, on the fake grass area. Yeah, like that. Those four. Mm-hmm. Somewhere else like. I don't know. Well, and if we have to move the two in front of Frazier River, that's six. Yeah. That's pavement. That was just going to say, I wonder if like Denver Health is a bit of a excuse there. And that's the weekend. And then we have people in there on Friday. So and like, it's, I am, it was, it was loud being right on the highway like that, like not being between buildings. It was really loud. Yeah, okay. So, I don't know if that was super ideal. At least Gorns in Park, you know, in front of Sharky's has a little bit of, yeah, like that, yeah. A little bit of coverage, but. and they have like access to bathrooms, free, that's it. Yeah. And we can yeah we can we can all think about this yeah yeah I don't think we have to we've got time to decide on that yeah no I get it yeah we're always kind of messing with things but I think the general layout obviously keeping the mural park and Gorenzen Park and You know as many as we can fit through the businesses in town is the way to go Gorenzen was what he's Yeah, yeah, that cluster things right there. Yeah Trying to put you probably lose a mural if you want to put your information tent and going and across from the darkies, but you can move one of those murals to someplace else. But the tent itself of taking up the space because they're that is where they're packed in almost the tightest of any place. Yeah. So you're moving one of them. Plus it's important to be in front of the public. That's what the thing that the corner made. Totally. So the people that were there kind of doing it. Yeah. It was very visual about who I should go. And I like it right in between. I do think the only thing is that we have to have Skinner next to the info tent. And I'll like him all the way over far by himself. Yeah. I could see about moving that one mirror where the Info-10 would go into the driveway for the weekend at the Yellow House. I think that the therapist there who parked there would be, you just have like, instead of just the three on the grass, there'd be like one, or we could maybe move that. with that simple coffee being there. It's a little less busy. This, you know, not a treat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, last year the girls at Yellow House actually made it like an event for themselves and they were handing out sunscreen and promoting it and from everything that I talked about with those girls. They're definitely want to do that again. Cool, yeah. So. You never get enough sunscreen, you know? Yeah. Push that high quality. Um, Mb. All right, so we're going to let over then. Yeah. TBD. Yeah, location. Yeah. But the mural, I will start. Let's talk to neck and then I will start the clothes. I'll send an email. I think they have all the equipment here. We don't have the rent anything. It'll be other than man hours. It will cost us. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'll send an email to him and copy you on it and see if we can figure out a time to meet. want to talk to him about what we will be doing to the building and his little patio will be tied up for a very short period. Yeah, but if you do that closer to mud season, if possible, then I don't see any problem there. Okay. Be nice to have a little interactive map of the town that we could put up and then move the little circles where we're envisioning things. I put one up and kind of check also. Yeah, and try it out. That would be fun. Or maybe we can come up with like, you know, three map options and see what works and I don't know. Okay, that was all on my list for meal fest stuff. Unless you want to bust out the meal fest board. Not really. Okay. I can check it and see if there was anything on there that we didn't want to. Yeah. Yeah, anybody else have any fun stuff? Just a general observation that These events are great and they take a lot of people's time and contribute to it, but they're not really done until they're finished. And the amount of participation and the wrap up has been lost and stellar and almost every month of the past year, as far as either getting volunteers from the community or the other things. So after working really, really long periods of time to get to the event and how to kind of be the event. And then working through the days that it kind of takes place. The job isn't really over until the tools are put away. And so I would just say that that's something to keep in mind. As we look at this one, this coming up, which will absolutely be my last one. And so, but the amount of stuff that is required to finish it, it needs to be taken all the way to completion on the cross finish line. It's always nice because that opening night is great. You know, opening a couple of days when everybody's out and around and kind of really celebrating it. But the real work is after everybody goes home and the circus has to get ready for the time. It's kind of big. So yeah, yeah. I mean to Joe's point, let's, I mean, if you guys are available that weekend to be available because all hands on deck is super helpful to make everything goes really after long long long days. The last day was a little bit shorter because there have been times when I'm. And I'm always happy to be the last one here to make sure everything's buttoned down but we still it it helps. It's a lot easier now than we're not doing nasi. Yeah. And even if it's safe, if you feel like you're just standing around doing nothing, just being there being available. Yeah. That was nice. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, not necessarily signed up for volunteer hours, but Yep, well, you do lots of good work for us, Joe. And maybe the three of us can sit down and talk about like the off the if we can make any any more clear about the year old pickup and stuff like that, like I don't know what to do. I, I don't, I mean, again, we could, we could talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you have to make a decision and stick to it. Obviously, I think you have to set it deadline and make that deadline, you can't call seven months later and go, where's my mirror? Oh, can you take that down for me? I know. That's what we've been trying to head to for a number of years. I didn't have one other idea before you let it go though. I've loved your idea for Fire and Lies about getting the business participants to do something that represents it all the way around town and then having a kind of adventure. Yeah. I have a, I think that they should make paper mache chainsaw bears and that they, the bond, you know, chainsaw bears are on all of these tourists as porges. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. If it wouldn't sculpture, it's a whole paperventation of a chainsaw bear, whether it's larger, smaller, this or that. Yeah. And we have a brewing bonfire at the end. You know, the bonfire, you can bring over your brewing. Yeah. And, you know, and we're not taking ule, we're not stealing from any of these other things that probably do, but we're going to have a brewing bird. You know, we're burning a brewing, you know, for the day. Bring your brewing. I'm really having to meet the other day, because I see so many chainsaw bears as I'm driving around. We're going to have a brewing bird, you know, or a burning brewing, you know, for the thing. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, maybe the other day, because I see so many chainsaw bears as I've got around. The words. At one time, I was going to steal all of them and put them in the field, in the farce field. And it's set up chainsaw mucous, like guardians, as they're like hurting the chainsaw bears around. But I think it's something that people can do that'll happen I mean they could even make their own real chains up here if they want But it's something that people can do that'll happen. I mean, they could even make their own real chainsaw there if they want. But it's something that everybody identifies with and that is something that would burn. Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that we should figure out how to get the businesses to make something burnable. I burn your ruin. Yeah. It's got the alliteration, the BYUB. burn your bears bears. Because yeah, so far, this happens for a lot of them, a lot of them have made the biggest money, the amounts of money that they've ever made, any given weekend or any given day through the course of their history, the existence of the concentration. And I don't see them doing anything. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, we can, I mean, yeah, we should definitely roll them in. Right in front of, you know, from like the forex, stayed with me. I thought it was such a lovely, you know, such a nice idea. Yeah. So I really want them to make snowman. I love snow. Yeah, like the the child of Granby does the scarecrows. I feel like if they could make snowman for but they can do the same thing with bears. Yeah. We don't always have snowing, you know, essentially front of their businesses because we've worked hard to keep my clean Yeah, no like paper mache Or or that too. Yeah, whatever They can be creative with finding snow. Hey Steve we're just on the verge of wrapping up. So okay, okay. Sorry about that. My coaching call went on. Yeah, I knew you had something else going on. So yeah, we did agree to do the camber to do a new mural for camber for the commission. As the commission. Yeah. All right. You got to connect with Nick and talk him through that or yeah, yeah, I'm gonna send him an email with Joe on there So we can get a time to meet and see what it takes so Yeah, I don't I don't think he'll oppose that you know, he was looking for either either that or touch up But he seemed open to both both scenarios Anything else for the greater good? Not for me. Did you find your dog? Yeah. Does somebody want to make a motion to adjourn? I moved to adjourn. Second. Second. All right thanks everybody. Bye bye. You can stay longer.