I have a question. Okay, I've got 10 or 5 in order to establish a quorum. Ms. Cornigay, would you call the roll, please? Mr. Monsha. Here. Mr. Monsha. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Here. Mr. Monsha. Here. Mr. I'm not. Noting that all members of the court present, there was an agenda that was filed at 9.58 AM. Last Friday, May 16th. That agenda contained the signatures of three individuals. However, there were no names under the provisions of Texas local government code section 81.005b either the three commissioners or a county judge may call a special regular special term public court, which I believe was what the intent was of the filing of that agenda. However, 81.005B does not prevent any member of the court to be able to place an item on the agenda. Those instructions are covered in the rules of procedure conduct and the forum at the meeting of the Crayo County Commissioners Court adopted by this court on April 26, 2022, in which an agenda is compiled and organized for each meeting by the county judge or judge pro-tim and county clerk that did not happen on the advice of legal counsel. I was advised to conduct the meeting to give every commissioner the opportunity to express their desires during the meeting and to, but to not participate. So I will follow that legal advice. And subsequently, there will be a filing of bodies of facts and conclusions of law. So with that Commissioner Taylor, were you one of the commissioners that signed the agenda? Yep. Okay, very good. And when when was it that you determined that we need to have this meeting? When was it that you determined we need to have this meeting? I I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. as one of the members of the I'll get my name on that. Okay, and when did you determine? It's not relevant, Judge. It's not an inquiry. This is a commission report. I would also state that I believe our executive assistant was requested to produce this. She is your executive assistant also. So per failure, contact you about that proposed court is not our fault. I made no comment concerning, I mean, contacting me about a meeting. Okay. But you said all members didn't have the opportunity. Correct. But you were aware of it. When the agenda was filed. Yes. Okay. So there was no specific time where. Okay, very good. Commissioner Matthews, I would ask you the same question. That is that your signature on on this file agenda. I can appear to be my student. Okay, very good. And at what point did you determine that this meeting need to be held? Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Very good. Thank you. So with that, we have warm, established. Next item would be an invocation, to some member of the court or anyone present want to give the invocations more. Heaven the Father, we just come here today. And as always always I just ask to give thanks. Thanks for this beautiful earth and planet that we live on that you you allow us to live every single day and hopefully we live under your will. I just want to thank you for living in the greatest United States of America before just all the freedoms and opportunities. want to thank you for living in the great state of Texas, the best state in the union. And last but not least, I want to thank you for living in the great state of Texas, the best state in the union. And last but not least, I want to thank you for letting us and allowing us to live in Coriel County, the best county in the United States and the state of Texas. We thank for the rain and we just pray for all of your livestock and animals. And we say all this in your precious Lord's name, Jesus Christ, amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. And, I'm glad you lead you to life. I'm the head of the United States of America. And it's the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to the Texas one state, under God, one and in the business. The next item on this agenda is the public forum. Citizens may address the court on any matter other than matters concerning County personnel. Matters under litigation. Each citizen will be allocated five minutes with a total time not to exceed 30 minutes. Is there anyone here that would like to address the court's more. Singing Harry none. We want to item number five, which is discuss a backup internet option for the Leon Street annex. Yes. We received an email from one of the I think internet and technology that we use. We're going to find that the internet we found at the news. And actually, that was cut by not exactly sure where it was, but there was a third line. This thing with the staff over there is this the belief of current time that issues are lost of internet has happened. One of the speed issues, seven. It's. Florida needed to be discussed to where everyone is aware and that a process may need to be in place to address the right time. I'm not sure. I know they can't correct them. Cutline is necessarily but their speed could be an issue. So the tech company recommended something that is more just put it out there. There's a wide view of it and now I mean, because it's going to eventually feed over to the sheriff's office, believe. Yeah, I don't know what that that's question. Do any of our other facilities have redundant for backup energy? So we did this facility with Bob runs and we have next link back up. So if the fiber goes down this building, the next line kicks in and I think it's going to work. That's... back up. Okay, so if the fiber goes down this building, next link kicks in and the internet continues to work that building. I'm sorry, it's next link to that study. That is the little right. It's that's so you're sorry. So we're going to work the long time plan down there was was to have I think they did two different drop locations for five of them. When standing in, there's only one fiber company that currently has fiber there, that's one of our corners, which is what we're connected to. Somebody dug up the line last week, last week, last week, or last, whatever it was. I'll take that as the line. So there were a lot of interventions down. So the problem with the next link is if the antenna that you get your next link from is also serviced by that fiber, it's not doing the good, because that will be down in well. well so don't know if I'm fanning it but all of the next limits are fed by fiber connections that they sell out through their radio waves. So the last week, week four, last, whenever they dug up this line, that bait was down as well. They have, well, their five rooms down as well, but they have Starman, and they're back up internet. That's what they recommend that we put in down here because we don't have another five or a carrier to meet it with Jason to our building practically, that they know of. They said there's one or two they're making plans to or pretty close to. They don't believe in finding there yet. So last week, when the internet was down, week four by winter, it was an error down that the new building, I called that bait and they answered the phone. They said, well, ours is down too. And I said, that's fun. I'm talking to you. And I said, well, I got to get the ticket over the bag up. So I talked to Brent, well, this morning, to get just an idea about what's starting to cost, because I had no idea. And he said that the hardware and labor to install it would be about $2,500. And we could get about $150 a month plan, which is 500 gigs, individually. And I don't understand exactly how this works. But at some point, if you can see that during the billing period, you can top off. So I guess it comes in increments after that. So it said that's not the plan you would want if that's what you were running on all the time, but it's fine for a backup plan. So the other day, when the fire got cut and they had to switch over Starlink, they didn't go over 50 gigs in one day with 17 employees there. So the chances of us going over 50 gigs in a day and being down for more than 10 days is probably flint of none. Even when we get cut over, we're even when the sheriff's department gets cut over than that. That's his recommendation. That's the Schemin's explanation. Week, was going to start in South Africa, down America. The big lead part where it is in flights, it is the part where it automatically swings you over when you go back. It is in place down there already. It's installed. It's in the building hooked up ready to go. It's just a matter of having the other internet in there to plug into it. But that device and software is in place and we've already paid for it to have the automatic switch over. So that's what we could, so I ask him, last week I talked to Nick about it and ask him about the next link option because that was what we talked about before which maybe just moving the next link connection from Sheriff's office over to that and that's what Nick told me last week was he said well that's fine unless the antenna that you're getting your next link service from is service by the same fiber that they cut it in the end you're out out. So that's the reason he told me to talk to her in about Starlink which course I'll come to this morning about 8.45. So that's if you're interested in that, I'll give a vote from them or a little contract or whatever Starlink has to offer in that regard for, you know, the considerum, to be settled that that is an option, you know, or won't consider it. Yeah, when I heard about this, I looked at Starlink and it's a flat performance kit, I guess which is the dish that you want to call it. It's actually on sale right now. It's normally $24.99 and it's on sale 14.99 for business. And then, yeah, I was surprised. You can get up to two terabyte or 540 a month. Yeah, so really it appears to be a pretty affordable backup. Because we'd have to take into account not just the court would be using this at that time, but all the users and the sheriff's office too. So we may need to up. And so the speed issue that they're experiencing presently over there, they're having been about. I'm exaggerating too much, but I'm going to say 30 or 40 emails in the last 10 days regarding that issue. And there's something going on with EDOG. It looks to me like we know the EDOG's been involved in the email chain as well. There's some email. I haven't been involved in it yet, but it's getting involved. And there's some temporary files that are being created that are not and there's there's something going on I So it possibly eat up first and so I don't think it is a internet speed issue. I think there is an issue But I don't think it's an internet speed machine But the people that are supposed to know all that have been arguing about it for about 10 days now. Maybe plus two weeks. And I don't know, I'm not supposed to understand what the problem is. And it was first email or else. But they're working on how many? Well, that's a good news bad news. I'm not stuck with slow internet. We're stuck with all the internal processes. Yes, I think less somebody digs up the cable. I think the internet's working fine. Yeah. We'll see. So, I want me to get something from them regarding the, obviously most of that $200 is getting the days, putting it on the roof, running the wires, down, plugging it in, getting it all set up, working. Then 150 bucks a month for the 500 gigs and that's why I understand it. We can up it anytime we need to. And for now they think Brent said 500 is leaving home. Even if it's just just back up, even when Sheriffs office come down and bully you. Because y'all, I like the voiceover internet protocol phones, but it's the other bad thing about those. Sure. Yes. When internet goes down sort of your phone, yeah, they say the local priority 500 gigabytes, $165, 1 terabyte is 290, and then as I said, the 2 terabytes, 540. So even they say 500 is for 2 to 4 users on up there. That's what you know, that's what that's probably for a month. That's probably the building area. The subrenate said the other day around the one day, and they're all the 17 employees did not use 50. Not sure if it would have been out for 10 days that would have been closer to 500. But they just used it strictly for backup also. They have fiber connection. That's why we do over here. Same provider, same line, apparently, because they were out and around the gut gut. I mean, they're top two. Yeah. We need. How would you let's say details for the point seven for my detail for Starlink. I think that's our best option. Sounds me like it. But still, now it gets service. Yes. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to role. Here today are you going to move the meeting along or? We need to. I just need to tell me when you're finished with an item Okay moving on to item number six on the agenda, which is consider RFP for employee health insurance of that last meeting, we're kind of getting down crunch. And I know this has been funny and I sure try to resolve this and I'll work on all of that. I think it's been review, thanks for you, thanks. Thank you for having me. So we don't finish our things. Wasn't it? Maybe you can put the guy here. There's already. Now. Um. I don't know if you're. I'm. I'm. But I'm. I'm. I have. I have a few questions. I changed the date from originally one of the previous graphs. I had by June 9th, and they're for a return date. I don't know if we can get them back by June 16th. I think that's compensation. We have somebody out the asses. We think we can get responses from vendors. I have no idea how long it's going to take a vendor to get a response together, but there's a lot of them. I don't know how long they've been seeing If we... ...the irregardless of what we do, whether we change vendors or not, we have to open enrollment in August. So we'll start taking money out of paychecks in September without overcoach. So we've got to make a decision in July. But, say the name. You might be. We could push that date back soon. I also don't know how long it's going to take to get on the date of that are prone or current provider to provide these for those respondents. If we don't get those for another 10 days, then I do not believe the June 16th is going to work. Thank you. I wish that by. So I think that in court, if the treasurer is over to issue this RFP upon presentation of that data from our current provider, and just to date, accordingly, as we can, and I think that would be fine. The board can focus today on the... Oh, the request. So, but two things. I'm working too, but let's so currently are in terms of perfect. Max out of pocket and. You know, I'm on the calendar. I have no idea. Now, whatever, why, we went to a calendar year, we're going to our contract or service with our provider is almost fiscal year. I don't know, I just don't know, I have no idea. I don't know how you deal with that if you change plans. I have no idea. I don't know what to put in here to address that issue or put in here the fact that our current deal is on a calendar year I don't know what rush and thing to learn. So it's on page 11. Unprojectives, please know, county's the most out of pocket, maximum, but based on calendar year or not plan year. So the one that I got this out of, prefer a better baseball fiscal year or not plan year, it might have said contract year, I don't know exactly what it said, but I don't know how to, I don't know how you reconcile that, you how you reconcile that you can change point if you change providers Or you change plenty of change your mix out of pocket I don't know how you do that. Why you change your mix out of pocket when you plan the start saw cover first in your Not months into a into a current current year. I don't know how I provide her handles that. I'm not a health care attorney. I have no money. So I don't know what to try to put in there besides. I don't know. So right now it says please note, I have pocket maximum of my stomach calendar year or not playing year. Bring them at them right now. We have no other number for so it's just really out of pocket. Yeah, the edge of your Um, bring them at them right now. We have no development. So it just really out of pocket. Yet, at the moment. Well, that paragraph, that's the one that said objectives that we read it last time. That I shortly though because other one had some stuff in there about 11 month and 23 month contracts and various things I took to that stuff out but it's like was bookable. We put that in there as our objective. So, it's McGarlin. So, I mean, I think I understand this at a close and then out of pockets, and I don't think I've ever... You... Yeah, I've got to that. I know. I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead. So is it so out of pocket that do that they have their in our plan, currently there's a max out of pocket, correct? 3000 and over 6000 things. And then what has the benefit to the employee once that out of pocket is meant? They don't. So, and then I am, I mean, the map out of pocket. Right. A few questions. this meant. They don't know and I am. The math about the pocket. Right. Question that was not. I'm not sure. That's where I mean, I'm just trying to understand where you know, that's going because you know, we reset in October, there could be people who have met there out of pocket. And then and then to start over. And that's what I was talking about in prison if we have asked for the calendar year or if the word plus third full year I don't know that option because it's never, it's only been calendar year, it's gotten like there will be never gone out that it's not allowed. So we don't have that answer. And I was just over at real clumberan and I don't know that. I do know that we are calendar year because I did bear out that one. What we currently have. I'm sure the, because I would assume that contractually we're, got the white is obligated to service us until December 31st. They're saying calendar year. I think our contract has already been confusion on my car contract ends with them. Which are. Car plan here is good for here, but are just dumpable and I'll talk it is calendar here. So at some point, there's going to be a leader leaders, which I go to a different company. There is going to be a gap there, three months where either I don't know what's in the company. I don't know if there is. either read or switch and go to a different company. There is gonna be a gap there, but three months where either I don't know what the new company, I don't know if they're calendar or best lawyers, but there is a chance that that will be the same. I've looked something that just said, many, many, many years ago, and it's just been writing that way. And I do know that other, you know, there are other counties that are telling you your for their plans. So I don't know how the play gets. That's what's got a lot of consultants as their norm. The calendar year instead of the four years. I don't know if that is your great. Now that the conversation is great. I think I was misconstitiation. Yeah, the went on. No, yeah, I mean, I get it. It's the, how we got into that practice really well. Yeah, I know. Our person, she's very willing to give the inverse as she was getting the for training for us. I can always out that and just see what the answer is from the spot in life and see if that's you know what the norm is or if that's industry wide or that's just the problem. So you don't think that was something that was set by bounty years ago for payroll. I think a lot of softwares or something. I don't know what it was. I mean, I don't know what that. I don't know why we've been going it that way. Right. That's in that we do in our role. Besides paying the bill very much. That doesn't. That's a doctor. All that. The only thing I can figure is that we used to have a calendar year contract in and we backed it up to the beginning of fiscal year. So it didn't adverse the effect on employees at the time, stay on the calendar year and do it for a parking. If we would have backed it up, it would have adversely affected them, so we just chose to sail calendar here, but we backed it up. But now this has been this a way since, at least 2005, so it was, I have no idea when and where now. That's the only thing I can think of is if we used to be on a calendar year contract, when we moved back to fiscal year, because we backed up at that time, it didn't have our seat back to our police to stay on the calendar year. But now, it will implement the will, if we move providers back. The longer we stay with it, they provider it would. But sooner or later, it seems like that needs to be addressed. First thought it's all we'll do later, but yeah. Set no idea how to fix it. I'll even know how good it can be called last. Yeah. But I need to. I need to call it out. My. I can. I can. Got a lot of that. I think we need to get it. With our plan. You can. The big thing you did plan it so October, December, that's which are productions and I mean the next one. and the big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big Could you include the whole court and Mr. Vell in that question and answer period so we can kind of stay live In a baby one of those other things we don't know and I think in the census we'll know how many people actually. We have that ready. We're currently just waiting for all the reports back from Scott and Watt that we have asked for. What I was telling Mr. Bell this morning is, you know, we kind of walking through what the old guy did because they're seriously a little sensitive to what I think. They have the list of exhibits clear in there. We may not have all of those because they have multiple plans where you may have a HMO video or different things like that. We may not have all the reports. So all of these exhibits that are listed here when they have to adjust based on what's not my gift. We asked for those out of Tuesday of last week's out report. So we're hoping to get those. I think I've been later. But you said you've got all the data. So at some point we know as of today, we would know how many people have met there, how to pocket. Okay. Okay. But since it's we have is their out of pocket. Okay. Okay. I just thought we'd talk a lot. Okay. But since as we had is currently as of April 30th or so, we have coverage and what coverage they have. It's only an internal thing. It's not a. I mean, Scott might could provide us the same thing, but they don't know who needs to be up. We have, it shows every single play that we have, what does that work for? They have clean out names, we've redacted, you know, all that. So that. So that's what we have ready. To me, that'd be, you know, the first step for me, I'd like to know how many people are at that level and how many are getting close to that level and then, you know, do we make provisions for covering that for 90 days or... So I can tell you that years ago, we changed my pretty supportive and changed back to Scott White from another company. And those people who met their end of year criteria for their total amount, Scott White for years for Bell Pounding started in November 1st instead of October 1st because of that other contract ran out and October 1st. So you're out of October 1st maximum ended on that day. So that's when Scott the White started their turn. So every year when we signed up in October, we started the right. It moved it around so that the new company took over after everybody's out of pocket maximum of the year presented. I hope this was the hardest one. You said you had several. Why don't you just do it? I said I have two. OK. I have two. A couple. A couple. days. It's a couple. I don't know if you were to ask her how those number will never, but we can definitely ask that today when we get back up there all. I mean, any time we talk about something, you know, we might not be talking about a big. Yeah, out of the 200 or whatever area, there might be a very small number of people that are fit that window. and either the county can make provisions for it or our new provider put in there that they have. Grandfather in there, out of pocket or something like that. I don't know if they'd be willing. So I think that this month, I was going to need to address that how we put some genuine in here that Dr. Hall wanted them to address that in the area. Yeah. Somebody's not guilty. I'm up with how. Or that based on what our options are Bill County has been fit of having a benefits trust That manages part of theirs and so I have no idea how all that works. Thank God, but they have other resources to manage things But we have resources so we we needed to don't know how exactly what we would be set up, and we certainly could fix it. Yeah. And, you know, we have a beneficiary in two, but we don't have it like those kinds of areas. It was just paperwork, all of the two, you know, count. I mean, yeah, as a side of the dollar. We just pay our bill out of the benefit of the house. I don't know. I'm glad about that. It wasn't. I mean, it was, but it wasn't. Yeah, I mean, I don't have any of me, we've never done any incombat to get a bill in. That's it. I don't think that's what they're doing over there too, because they've split your payment in each check, but the bill do a diverse amount, so they pay to bill not of the benefit trust, and then you payment from your check goes into the trust fund to replace it. I've got something that has been not the convey the bit, but it looked to me like they had some, they were at least when they were asking for vids last year, or maybe for some partially funded options, which led me to believe they had some... A larger trudge. They had a lot of money out of what all that means. Yeah. And those are the ever- You don't have to have that. You don't have to have that. I already said the cloister. I mean, I would have money from her's either. Hey, Bill, what about that? So the. The big term, we'll put it out. The other thing that our limits help with is attachment to the medical portfolio reform. You'll see we got a copy of the fair as well as the second list on that single loose sheet of paper or things that have miswetled found that we have on our current declaration sheet that are not on this medical proposal reform and so on. I don't know, I think they are important so I don't know if they're included in some of this other stuff on this medical proposal form or not. They don't necessarily appear to be. I need to know if these are specifically listed on our current plan as a benefit. I need to know whether one's specifically listed on this proposal form or not and see if they and include them or not. You consider that as an extra benefit or some or some costs associated with each one of these things. If we request them to be included in the proposal, I don't know. Some of them may be included anyway and some of this. But I don't know some of them may be included anyway and some of this But I don't really see So like on a lot of plans you'll see What preventive care so if they call it? So I don't see on this proposal anywhere in here or ask If preventive carriers included or ask them to make sure that's included. I don't know if that's just something. I don't know. Masking. I do know that we think that I listed on our kind of one that I'm not going to sit on here. These are some. I'm just going to put it really good. But they're definitely things that we get all to know all the time. So I think that they've probably they may be added to this medical totally point. Yeah, especially the LHS types of preventive care, all that kind of feel like they're new to you. I mean, there may be that maybe part of us planned it. Maybe that's something that's been used out in front of us. But I think I would rather be on there than not be on there. Somebody that you've allergy shot, I would hate you have to start paying for those. When I do know that we've had some employees here lately, we see me. And the men of the old one said he has a big issue with a guy special. For questions, so. I hate for an employee to leave because we didn't put that on. What would it have to have? I don't know, I just want to know what these management is something that is normally included in one of these other plans. Services or if that is a special service that you want you have to request and there is an additional consideration of cost in that. I don't know that question. Same month. You have to register these. So that could be covered on this. You know, the option by a lot of open. I have an item. I'm seeing. It looks like that. Those problems. You. You look at this list or things. I don't know maybe. Like now I need to have 50 minutes under an office visit. Or you know, that kind of stuff. It just doesn't matter whether or not it's included in their right. I like an office. Or a special visitor's feeling that I'm looking at the list of government. I don't. Most of this in my past with all of them pretty much included. I think we should be remiss if we didn't take include these. So do you think that they should be included as line items in this complete for each plan being submitted benefits or should they be a footnote on the bottom. So I got rid of the bottom of the page 24 here to put an asterisk there that says our current coverage includes this list of things we are requesting all respondents to include or maybe not include but consider or not feel yeah do you help them to show us what these are inter out and have so much cost to it. Yeah because it earlier in here you said that we want something comparable to what we're exactly now. So. Is that what you. I would. Who could that be? It earlier in here, he said that we want something comparable to what we're currently not. Because I would, I would assume a plan would be cheaper if it did not include you hospice care and home health care. I mean, if I was not planning it certainly would be cheaper if those two things were not included. That's it. It was a million. That's it. Because many of these are actually to the benefit of the insurance. Diabetes management. They can get employees to manage their diabetes, then their payouts are a whole lot less. or that's the whole idea behind diabetes management, preventive management. You can even stretch it and say, how? the man needs their diabetes, then their payouts are a whole lot less. That's the whole idea behind diabetes management, preventive management. You can even stretch it and say hospice care, I think hospice care at home is probably cheaper than letting somebody sit in the hospital and rack up big bills and die. So it could be the benefit of the insurance company. I just don't so be so I think that we ought to mention them in here somehow. I don't know which ones should be listed as their sales on the list, something or whether we should include a note that said these are things we are interested in. These are things that are included in our current plan that we ask all respondents to address. Yes, I think that's, I think that would be better to definitely add the answer to that. And you know, also, I would say it's included in the current process as well for that would be our address. I think it's the same on the editor that there is a looking at an American market. Let me send you a completed list. I kind of narrowed it down further the description to that answer. I mean, I did. It's there. I mean, sorry. I mean, the EOB is making cases which is, and on that back, hey, it did run into, you know, well, they have things that's the blind, the termity here in family planning. Well, it's a $30 code case. It's not this business. So why write that out for a skilled nursing facilities at $530? Well, that's the hospitalization. We are planning that that could endure our hospital code case. So I didn't write all that out. But I've not all of it. People said something that we're currently talking about. So on the list of things that. We asked them to consider to give us something that does not what we currently have. So on that list of things, is there a. Is this is that he budgeted on this list of things? So there it is. Some are in the facing coverage. Yes, yes. We did have it all together. So. Well, I hope you will think of the first thing. I'll get this put up to page 9 here. said all respondents are requested to consider coverage as similar as possible to our current summary of benefits, others. It might come tonight. The list of them all in missing some. Let them look at our current care. Look. I'm talking about the fact she. Yes. What's this thing called? He'll be explained in a patch play. I think they called it. Medical schedule. There. Here to go. The next one in there. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go to the next room. I'm going to go, the medical schedule and the other its exhibit such and such, that all get us at least one plan that matches. I think that's our somewhere in here. What was that objective? So take 11. Yes. Jacobs. Okay, you put any distance to the Canadian study question. Other offer and will be prepared. Also should it be the least one option options. It manages closely to current field as possible. But if you have tables, so we want to have that. I'm going to be specific when I'm listening and doing these. don't know that we've been issued, is that for them to put in the new knowledge there? I don't know, because some places have, you know, in network and backup. This is not as important. This attachment, me is not as important for coverage, as it is for the cost of the things that are coming. Yes. And I think that's what that forward like they're asking is innovation care covered. Matters good all proves. Networks on the network. Good mother question. Thank you spend your answers. Give us some of everyone don't figure it out. I think for anyone who lives at tax before some of their plans were they altered, you know, 100% coverage of NETLERS and then like 50% of out of NETLERS and that puts them away and in fact, and this is plain cover this out of NETLERS. I think I understand that I'm expecting me to all be around this point, I think I understand that I's taking me a while to get around this point. I got a newspaper. I have a friend big set. What else did I have? I have a lot I need some attention on? I don't remember. It's a big difference, but you may or may not have the ownership. Right. The waterbergs, if it's they do get, we're going to renumber those, fix those, get right here, zone on, you know what I actually get that ready to roll. So that we can't fix that today. the way that we get the stuff. Got it. Got it. Fine. You know, use it all together. So that we can't fix that today. We might be able to do it until we get the stuff. Got it. Got it. Why? You know, you develop together, you develop, you know, you develop, you know, you develop, you develop, you know, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, you develop, I was in the original industry, so probably it's the beginning of my heartache. So what do you all think about the dates? About the time, right? I know I asked the English brothers in the time of the day. Oh no, I asked him which grudges cheer of the date that the President should be done out. You know, he sent me the RFP list and out. So I asked him how do the responses they got. There are a few. What? You know. And I don't know what that was. I don't know if it was because the size of the groove person would propose it to me. I don't know how to know how to do it. But that's all they got. and they gave him, I will give her him much time, but more time than this. Seems like everyone would be close to 90 things before they... Well, okay, so we could either budget from the forward or going backwards. Obviously, we have to have a decision by the time we pass. But it's almost, you got to look and say, okay, would the sufficient rescue evaluate RF feeds and consider it would, it really sounds like what's our drop dead date. Oh, we got to give ourselves time. We got to share the contract and get enrollment, you know, get, so yeah, Valor has, I think, and it's bush actually really a lot of like, you know, that's pretty. Maybe not. At decision date, in decision date with July commissioners for chose. Yes. But we get along June 16th. That may be, that's just two, three weeks at all to review on how people can make a final decision. You've done these things in the last time before. This stuff, I mean, I'm okay. That's just like framing for a finals. Yes, I think for you, but I think for you, and that's just like, framing for a finals. Yes, I think for you, but I think for you, I mean, that's pretty much going to be the, I don't know that you could, they think it could happen any less time than that, because what if there's two that are really close, and you all want to get them in the puzzle, we got to schedule that. And if they're slow about getting the, you know, how long is it going to take to get us a contract for the court to approve after going back to the decision. They've made a decision on the aid. I haven't been really fast-pocket. When we tell them we're ready to go, they have a present. So it's not them. No, they've got our red breath. Right. That's funny. a lot of them really fast-potted. When we tell them we're ready to go, they have it threatened. So it's not- No, they've got ours ready, right? Right. Yeah. That's what we've got here. Oh, it's a number. That's not really. That's not really. And when they're not getting it, I don't know. He talked to several people, but that show interest. Yeah, I don't. I mean, let's go to the weekend. I mean, you can't expect they're going to they're going a new vendor. I mean, I don't want to think you could expect them to have. From the day you say yes, we have it. I don't build that already into us with the option that we choose because we're going to get options. They're not going to know which option we choose, so we're going to have to get that in there. We're going to have to get it to us, we're going to have to review it. I'm not going to assume it's going to be perfect the first time we get options. They're not going to know which option we choose. So they're going to have to get that in there. Get it to us. We're going to have to review it. I'm not going to assume it's going to be perfect. The first time we get it. I mean, it's going to take you a week or 10 days, which be fine. Well, if you like, thanks for waiting 10 days. You've improved the second meeting in July. Could be 20 seconds. I'm not going to push this up a little bit later than that. So it kind of goes back to your original statement. And the government is so different because sometimes you're negotiating strategies or out the window because of transparency, right? Our goal is to go out and get RFP for multiple health care providers, evaluate those, and choose the best. Worst case scenario, this RFP process falls apart. We don't get stuff we're looking for. We still have the option, of course, to enter in negotiations with our current provider and move on down the road. I mean, not the preferred, but. Yeah, we did that. No, it wasn't. It might be. And we did that. I mean, we did it kind of at the last minute, last year, we were negotiating up until the final, you know, hour of the final day. So I think the budget calendar is very important to us because we got to figure out what our schedule is. But I mean, I'm not. I think we ought to give them sufficient time to get good responses. That's where I'm right now. I don't disagree. I think that. June six. I had June 9th in the originally on a change of June 16th. I was going to go away with my husband being back by June 9th and I mean I'm just unrealistic being the one that they're struggling with. But I'm not sure June 16th realistic either. That's really not happening to that probably needs to be pushed back because I don't know that we're not really to get it out. It's going to be weak. Be loved if they really get it out. But we're looking for a way to get that back. It would be too. And so I'm fine with not worrying about that right now and seeing when we get stuff. And let's get it together. And maybe what kind of goes back to your opening statement of does the court have a desire to give Miss McFarden's office the latitude to work, you know, this RFP along with you, you know, to figure those dates out based upon how we get the information in and adjust as they say and golf adjusted the 9. and I'm fully on board with that. It's an RFP, you know, I mean, I think four weeks after we've received this dot-life, it's another time. Once we received this dot-life information, I think four weeks. And I understand what it takes. I don't think, gosh, come on, I've been bidding business. I want the business, I get it done. Guys, almost a practical matter. I have no idea how much time it actually takes them to get that information, put it in the worship system, run their numbers. They're playing in general and something. I'm sure they can give you an answer in a short order, but whether it's a well-thought-out I've locked out well-thought-out answers. I just have no idea how long we'll take some. So if it goes it normal, we'll say it's the 16th, they'll start preparing it on the 14th. I mean, I think they have systems in place. They just love this in, and their system just fits it out. I mean, I don't think it's as daunting as, again, I think I'm willing to, even if we feel like we'll do better, push it out a little bit. And then I'll, you know, I'll have to crunch my time to dedicate more effort to get the analysis done in a short period of time that we have to. means I always say this about budget times. One time a year that we have to focus on things like this and give it our full attention. But I stated in one of the books, I'm fully fine with Mr. Belt working with the President's office and completing this RFB and plugging in the dates that best work to our budget year and budget that makes sense. Okay. You know, please don't panic, but this will be agenda for the 27th also, because we need to be an answer on that. So differential between that fiscal year and calendar year. That might have far some decision about a court that is with farther. Not going to make. Yeah. I don't know if we're not going to have. I don't. It'll be a Christmas miracle if we get everything in, get all those exhibits organized, and get ready to go out for next Tuesday. And I don't, and I will answer this little issue of this for your versus calendar year. I'll talk to my ex. So. But I feel much better actually about that. I'm saying like it, I think, pretty much better. Make sure you're here. I made some notes. You fixed the one more copies. I think 70 and fix that. And then you'll think that's the times I thought we saw it. You know, we get two flash drives, five complete copies and an original. And we have the original, the raw staring, you all have five copies. Everybody else will have electronic. We can look at and print it with one thing. We won't want to. we'd see if it comes sides. I marked up the first page of the level. So they did ask specifically for the responses to the questions to be an MS word and the responses to the chart to be in Excel spreadsheet format, I assume that was because they were how they were going to pull them over, dropping it into something great or whatever. I don't know, but I just love that sign. Yeah, on page 11, current insurance, you know, carriers, Yeah, I expressed before that I think I believe, I don't know this because I know many of our employees probably utilize Corial Health. And I think it's, I don't know if we can put that in an RFP as it must include Corial Health they would have certainly include in there that the, uh, that one of the alternatives must include. Cornell Health as a provider. And we told them we won't know what the match our current plan is as close as possible. And one of the things on the grading sheet is directly attributable with local payment, we've got that authority. We've only looking at access. Right. Okay, just one other area that I don't know how before we leave objective, don't make it live. Yes. You all want me to include something in there about. For more. And if so, how do you want that? Spot to this. I have before I got into the sentence that's one of the options to me. She'll be at or below the current program cost. One of the options submitted. Shell include for Memorial Hospital as an approved provider. Thanks. Is there one of the. For us is for you. We'll help. Leave something. The name that we have, what we pay them. Maybe healthcare systems. Okay. It is Coriose Hill. I mean, we have employees in here. I mean, I think that's important. A lot of people who don't utilize stop white. They utilize. So how would, as I provided, right, that would be, I would be worried, one of the objects to do is, you know, put the access to for you, and they'll live there providing. That's worried, probably enough. Good morning, this evening, that afternoon. And I don't know whether you have to put in network provider. Yeah, I would probably put in network provider. Is that saying sure there, but that's all out of network. Right. And currently right now the weather's gotten like flat allows back. The Corial Health. And this Corial Health. Central Corial Health. Yeah. Okay. One of the other things to mention shall include access to choreography of the end network for a program. Yeah. Sounds great. Okay, what else do you have? Okay, what else do you have to go'm scrolling. I made some markups. I have to put it under. In a nutshell, one of them is, and I've asked this question before, we're always looking for ways to decrease our cost of providing high level of benefits. And I don't know how the government works. I had it under cost containment programs. And I don't know who police is this, but I've worked for two other companies before that made us sign a form that if your spouse has insurance coverage under their employer that they must take that insurance and then they can sign up you up on the county as secondary if they want. Because there's, let's face it, if we provide a pretty feature rich cost effective insurance in spouses working at a different place, and they offer it, they're only going to take that one. I'm going to be on this. And so they just add it to the plan and ultimately cost us. You know, insurance is for employees first. And then I think for children. So anyway, I don't, I made a note, you know, Coinsurance, I know we used that sign of form. I said My spouse So anyway, I don't, I made a note, you know, co-insurance. I know we used that sign of form. I said, my spouse works for so and so and is on their insurance plan. I'm very familiar with the paperwork you're talking about. I don't know. All the legalities and exactly what it has to say, but I know I've seen the paperwork talking and I don't know what I've wished talking about. Yeah. Now I think that's more of a access to the plan. The county's perspective. The plan is doing things. I agree. About who's inside. I think you're correct. So I don't know. I don't think that may affect our census, but I don't think it needs to be in here in the RFP. Well, as we're talking in these interests, experts, we can ask them that question. I just know that's a strategy. And obviously it was an effective strategy because it's followed me in multiple private companies. And it makes sense. Now, a lot of that was prior to the Affordable Care Act, which now everybody has access to the insurance. But anyway, that's just a thought of one way that may be. Obviously, the spouse does not have insurance. They're subcontractors, something like that, then they can get them. But if they haven't, and I never understood what the co-insurance was that if you didn't like to put them on that plane anyway but the other insurance company had to pay for it. No different than us adding on as a liability to a writer. I think that was it. Oh, I'm not on that. Well, you at least changed your mind. I'll send it out again. We'll read one more time. When you continue to work on guns. We will announce. I got about these. For very good. Thank you all for your hard work back there. Pay in there with us. I'm going to have to go back to the next one. I'm going to have to go back to the next one. I'm going to have to go back to the next one. I'm going to have to go back to the next one. I have nothing further on item six. Nor did I. No actions to be taken. You see a freeze or we need to formalize that motion at all. Okay. I'm sorry. Not for me. Noting no actions taken on item number six. We want to item number seven on the agenda, which is to consider paying hardware bill to 10 o'clock plus. All right, town block. We need some call to the town block due to the fingers that the Fed monitors have. We need some for the grant support that Redne reached us. We have our work bill out there, which you have a copy of, 1358 others that I think seems to be. We're currently in hold with Time Clockless. My conversations with Ronda was to get the Red Ridge. you speak spurs, then move on to the department that uses it and, you know, try to fix insclubables, engines, etc. But they're kind of, we spent a lot of money on it. They kind of got us over barrels, so we're either going to tell them to hit the red one I'm else or, well, partly good. So, you know, with cover to the gym, but there's two different schedules. Schedules, God, I guess you would say, you know, as far as their willing process. But when we originally had this discussion, of course, I expressed my opinion that I think it's crazy to get rid of something that you leave when you don't have a backup system plan. I just thought it was, at the time I had heard, you know, Justin Lakeham expressed, well, gosh, you know, we use it and then we come find out that most of the departments are using it in some form or fashion. But they're, they're banned, you know, they're having to bandate it themselves as opposed to us asking that company and you fix our problems. Or would you ever ask that question? And I think once we ask that question, right, Mr. Mischer, they said, yeah, I mean, if vendor can't fix a problem if they don't know you have a problem. I think on some of its just communications and I would say that originally, then how it's going back. Yeah. So, I don't think his prerliction was good. the draftship with them. This is what I need. I think to do. I need. I think they can do. I just don't think that we ever actually, you're up to date. And consider that we do not have another plan in place other than the archaic thought of going to an Excel spreadsheet or something of that sort. Yep, we don't have another punch in and time file system that we've even interviewed. Or look at that. Or, or, or I don't know. So, I mean, I just, and then I love time. It was shared with us the, was it Mr. Wood the one to That plan Yes, the first plan of the He's here one two one year two year Then it jumped it on Yes, there's the The long you sound of this guy you know, but to discount, let's call that grant, basically, but yeah, but so basically what we're, and I don't, you know, anybody can say anything about this, but I know that, you know, I run businesses that people owe me money. I pretty much shut off their playground. And that's kind of what they're done. I said, you know, it's the money before we come in and fix your problems and pay your bills. And I think the reasonable request, you know, so I guess today we're considering the $1,358 and 88 cents to get us back into the information break, the information gap. And then between now and June is where they have their proof in the pudding of can they fix our, you know, fix the problems that, you know, we have that we can drive these. I mean, I personally think it's worth the seed money, the seed, you know, if I think if we engage diligently with them, they will fix a lot of these problems. So I, I, and then we'll have to face upon, I guess, actually, right, face upon paying this engage with them. They work with several of the departments, then if the department heads and elected officials come back and say, hey, we like everything that they told us they can fix and they can do and they've actually even done some of this, then we would recommend in June to negotiate the contract. That's a fair timeline. That's why I see it. Yeah, because I think she's going to go like a better person. Right. Right. And I wouldn't wear this at that time when I was talking to them. I mean, I'm not going to look at it as I'm having a policy utilizing the hard. Yeah, pretty much you. I think you're one time our contract. Oh, Scott, did you have a hard work one time? It? It is, that they come closer up and they never worked. So, we still have it somewhere. Yeah, we do. I don't know if we're going to go forward with going with that. We're charting this per unit. I mean, we just need two kiosk out there. A lot of logins here log into. Oh, something even different. It doesn't really bother us, but we wouldn't like to have something to clock in so we can manage who's there, who's known. Right, I think. Oh, yeah, I understand that. I think your department, it makes sense, right? You've got guys coming in at the early hours, different hours to be able to just, you know, drop in here. We track it that way now. That's the only thing we track. Who is? Make sure they got their 40 hours or you know what the reason to it and then the bank is not working. We did discover because of I think it hasn't been closed down since 2019. I think you have to close that out for, so I can tell you're leaving your lean banks, you're out off all that. He indicates the need to be done by the forefathers now. And I think the best way to do that would be just separate East apartment where they do their own clothes out and that looks like 100. Yeah, that's conversation. Yeah, definitely brothers. Yeah, said that very same thing. Right? Your your spot on as far as hardware. You know, it's a small office with very foreign boys, which we do have. And many of them are desk jockies. I have no problem with them logging in from the dedicated ISP of their desk top. But for a group like yours, right? Yeah, we don't have enough. Right. Yeah, you've got to have. And you know, we haven't been to Bregrin just one of these. I mean, the two departments would be Sheriff's Department and your department have multiple people coming and going, you know, came in the Newly All The All's Got Farm itself. So they can't be issued. Yeah, we have panel issues so far. When we check in the jail and dispatch. Yeah, we separate. I mean, there's to be very similar, but they have different roles. No, because they get the crew working properly We have to take out the mountain and work them at all. And he said that too by breaking it up and it's important. It's based on your hours. They know only your duties that that has to be done. That's what he might have told. That would have to be patient control. And it's like that. We have an execution to propose. Yes. Most work out. Go on doing from the ground. And that's what we need. Yeah. Is that option for them to go to the girl in the column? And if you guys have a vote, so the other two. Yeah. I think we're sitting on the other side. I'm not going there for a vote. If you do for a parameter, say that and say that. According to what Y'all say. There's even geofencing that you can put on that after such. No, you can't log in. You can't. But the variety or stuff like that. I mean, you know, because I'm bailable, if he's a battery. Oh yeah, that was horrible. It does present a problem with some offices, because they don't want their employees sitting at home and if they're not, you know, just logging in saying they're at work. So as each departmentary group would have to make that decision of whether they would allow that that hack to be available. My understanding is, well this is, this feels What is fast due. He was doing an April in unguard contractual obligations through some quick through and contract on the internet that Terry has on the click through accepted all terms of conditions to sometime far away and just to plan. We are obligated to fight this bill. You're regardless is their position. I'm sure that I get read through all those contracts and find and find print that we are obligated to fight this bill. I have not done that yet. You know, I'll address it too. Because on what you see what show? Yeah, the moon's all grown. Oh, that trouble. And so it's going to be a fight for some period of time over this 1300 VK $80 maybe since it's in regards to the only way. It's out of hog. See if we can work with them. Phil, after you're out of going to renew or not. Oh, but for a while, when this start to get complicated, are they getting sensitive? Thank like we own your drugs, we didn't have a problem. Somebody days prior to a regular answer to the math model, to continue being in this hardware. So based on that opinion, I'm ready to make a motion. I make a motion that we pay invoice number INB 004 from 07 698 in the amount of $1358.88 to time, FOT plus LLT. Thank you. There's a motion by Commissioner Wettel, a second by Commissioner Matthews. Any further discussion on item number seven? Any none? All those in favor say I. All those opposed to no. I just have it motion carries. Miss Hornigay, will you call the your comment. We're in the middle of a roll call vote. You will hold your comments until she completes the vote. This corner, if you will continue, please. I'm not going to talk yet. Judge, my wife, what do you move? It's time. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to share a table and how you move. Yes. Next, I'm going to put you in a guest. And I'm going to share my wife. Yes. Thank you. Chair recognizes commissioner Wettel. I think we just need to clear up this point about when there's appropriate for a local vote. I guess who can call for it? And under what circumstances or freedom? Because sometimes I think roll call vote for just for grandstanding. And just now not for the purpose of a business. And if that so, then in commissioners, I know I'm asking a multitude of questions. But what's the, do you have any clarification on roll call though? I thought it was only for budgets. And... So believe it or not, there's a long answer to that. There are some statues that require a roll call vote. There are some instances where a row call vote can be requested. one of my Confusions regarding the matter is whether or not the program commissioner's court currently has any approved One of my Confusions regarding that matter is whether or not the program commissioner's court currently has any approved rules I Don't know the answer to that question. I know we all had some discussion to file. You'll have some you all had discussion about mending on I don't know if that ever happened. I don't know if I have a copy of them. If they currently exist and are effective, that would be necessary to answer your question in complete detail. But I'll get you an answer. If you could get me a copy, then my answer will be better. If that exists. Yeah, I saw them one time. I think I might have. It was the rules into court of the court produced by a. Yes, I just have a question about whether they're effective or not. Whether they're valid or not. And it's not. I don't know the answer to that question. I have never followed. So haven't worked with so much about it and that it exists and are valid and effective or not. So I have no problem with row call votes. I mean I would do a row call vote on every single vote that we have because I'm proud of the vote that I say. I just want to know when it's arbitrarily a rock before the court. And that's why I've had my own opinion. And I think this is backed up by mostly laws and rules because punctual orders apply if there's no standing rule that changes it or not or a law that says it. And it's my opinion that the chair can call for all call but we didn't found them to. fairly confident that that is the fallback provision. Now I think that being taken on this I think that there is a provision in financials orders that says any member of the body may request the vote to be taken by a row call. But I'll have to confirm that. That big. I'll remember. Thank you. Yes. Moving on to item number eight, which is to consider contract with ProJee solutions for jail concert. Compers in today, obviously they through one we have contract of that was for them to go to our attorney. Like most of the same contract with the Toronto Solutions could build this day. Thank you. There is a motion to accept the contract from Commissioner Bashson, the second from Commissioner Matthews, any further discussion on item number eight. So I was being. Yes. Any further discussion. Hearing none all those in favor say I'm all those posts I know I just have motion carries Ms. Cornaghy would you call the role please? Yes. The bathroom is open, the bathroom is open and the bathroom is open. The bathroom is open. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Members of the Court might give closing remarks or reports at the conclusion of each meeting. The Lord for the ring. I have no report that. The other rain's not Oh, we had a fundraiser and every night turned built with saunders. It was nice to see. I mean, people show up and they're not out again. It's beautiful. It was very, that's all I've got. Well, we stand adjourned. Thank you.