All this meeting to order. The Metropolitan Transportation Planning Organization. And we are ready to roll its three o'clock in the afternoon and we are in Grace Night Conference Room and glad to see everybody here and folks here from the community as well. Welcome. Glad to have you here. And staff. Thank you all very much for getting us in here today. All right, I've got a roll call I'd like to do very quickly. It's Larry Alfred, Commissioner Alfred. Commissioner Book. Here. Commissioner Chestnut. Chuck. Commissioner Cynthia Chestnut. Commissioner Cornel. Commissioner Tom Kim Walker. Commissioner Eastman. Commissioner Angle is absent. We know Commissioner Chrisia here and Mayor Ward. Commissioner Willitz. And it's Miss Brown here today with us. There she is. All right. Excellent. I'm doing this for the record. So I think we have not done it before. Scott was doing it for us. So I'm just going to make sure everybody knows that we're here. And Mr. Dixon is Linda here. There you are. OK. And Adrian was going to join us. I think Adrian Hey Santos was going to join us. He's going to where is he? Where? From the. Are we? You are. I couldn't see. Sorry. So he was going to join us to he's going to be joining us officially. I think as representative of the airport. Alright, so I at this point, we have a quorum in our ready to move on. Do I have a motion to assist the agenda? We have a motion. Thinking of a motion in a second. Yes. Is it over? The record. Could we just note who's the moving second name? Absolutely. And this is going to take the notes and wants to make sure we capture that. Absolutely. All right. Who was in the emergency school? Commissioner Duck and Walker. Commissioner Cornell. All right. And you know what? It probably wouldn't hurt if you say your name. And you know or just your last name Cornel second All right, thank you because sometimes my brain goes blank All right any further comments about the agenda questions or concerns All in favor say aye. Aye. I'm like son of pose. All right. Thank you. All right. We have a lot to cover today. And approval of the minutes. Have you had a chance to look at the minutes you all? All right. All right. All right. Any questions or concerns about the agenda? I look through it. All right. Thank you. All right. Any questions or concerns about the agenda? I look through it, and it looked pretty good. So whoever's doing that, thank you very much. The notes were really handy. All right, all in favor say aye. Aye. I'm excited, pose. Moe should pass this unanimously. All right, The consent agenda here, there are agreements that we have transitioning our Mr. Thorben, you want to just very quickly. Yeah, just these are really just forum amendments to the documents for planning agreement, the UPWP. And so we have to sort of formally make that separation from any reference to the regional planning council within the planning agreement, planning grant agreement, and then also the UPWP. So these are just simply swapping out and changing URLs and things like that. So it's just really- It's just a bullwork. Administrative, but it needs to be approved. So approved as part of the consent agenda. That's it. What we included that then I I failed to say consent agenda as well but if we need a special a separate vote for the consent agenda I would accept that please. I mean we always accept the consent but it comes I know when we do it but this is is a different format. You have a pro-roader consultant, Jennifer. And we're going to work on the second. Yeah, but it's a little bit different in a way we've done it. All right, I have the motion in a second. Thank you, all in favor. Hi. Hi. Thank you. This is a little bit. I've had some confusion about the way we work. You know, at least you have a serious school board? We do have it. Tina, are we welcome? Are we invited to the table? Of course not. I didn't know if we've accepted all of these folks. Right? There's anything. They are not formally until everybody we've all executed there. Local agreement. We're going to invite. But they still can do that. So they serve as non-boding members. Okay, all right. Adrian, you want to join us up here? Come on, you get to do a fun group. Come on, you won't be a voting member. The lawyers just have a pass. We're close. We're close on. We're closing it on. How come to in this place? Yeah. Yeah, that was more of the confusion too, as to who is actually in and available to do that. Okay. All right. Then moving along. Action items we have and interlocal staff services. Mr. Thogren, I think your name is attached to this but I'm gonna defer to Jeff Hayes If there any question this is really the the county developed this for The agreement Between the empty PO and the county for support services Of note is that this will go before the county next week, I believe, and once it's executed, then we can do things like post the advertisement for the executive director position. So which is fairly important stuff. But Jeff and his team put it together, so if there are any questions, I know that Commissioner Eastman had some questions with me, so. Madam Chair, I don't have much to add. I think I did get a break in comment from Corvand that we needed to make a amendment on the effective date, which would basically be effective as soon as it's recorded. It's executed by both parties and then recorded. So that's my staff perspective, it was the only change that I know. Okay. Is that dependent? So would we be voting on that next Tuesday or are we waiting for agreements to actually? You could someone can make a motion and include that in their motion and we could provide the document for signature. Also it was pointed out to me that one other point there's the obtaining general liability insurance and workers confidence is both located under the duties of the MTPO and under the county that is a duty of the county so we will we would strike that for it's the first line under the duties of the MTPO we would strike that from the MTPO to use the MTPO does pay for, but the county will be procuring it through our mutual risk and services. Oh, sorry. Can I turn you? Pretia. Go ahead. You can clarify the exact language you want from the effective date. You set effective upon this, upon execution. Well, sure, Corbin is watching. Recording. Yeah. The location of the room. The location as the language for the effective date, our standard language that we typically use is something along the lines of it becomes effective upon recording. We know what agreement between two local entities. So we can put somewhere in there that says, you know, after execution, the county will record the document and be done to affect the pass on that date. I think he just passed the... So what we have here is, it says the agreement shall commence. I think if we want to just clarify that what we're talking about is the term of the services will be April 1st, 2025 going forward But the effective date would be before you Did you number 20 but you wanted within 10 days Did you get your question? The question is permission. Okay. Okay. So it's right. Is it the turn? Number 20. It's in two places. That's part of the issue. Yeah. So we already have the part that says we're going to be ordered. But then it would become effective when it's reported. And right now at the top we have this kind of April 1st. I see. I see. I see. It's for our services. We'll start people first, but they agreement itself to be effective when we recorded pursuant design. Okay. I do have a good picture. Okay. I'll take the questions and you have another one. Yeah. Well, I had some questions about it. The, yeah. So I was one, everything I think looks fairly, I mean, fairly reasonable in area compared this to two other documents of the county has there's a 2019 execution for the Children's Trust of Natural County. This looks like this is roughly based on that in structure and then career source, nor central Florida also is under similar structure. The numbers are all different in here. I don't have very strong feelings about the numbers. I, you know, it looked reasonable to me. I don't know if it costs $1,000 a year to do equal opportunity work. My guess is it is probably significantly more than that. So it seems like this is all fairly reasonable and can be renegotiated at a later point. I did have a question about the one FTE. There's an FTE that is paid for entirely out of here. That's a senior fiscal assistant. Can there some clarity we we can get us to? Why an FTE would be required for the, that's allocated for this one particular role? I got a response. Yeah, I talked to Tommy about that actually. I called our head of art fiscal to talk to him about that. And he said that that person, essentially, because they have to do all the payroll, they have to do all the payroll they have to do all the Sorry all the vendor services agreements all of and pay out to all vendors and everything and every single one of the agreements Like children's trust and they've always had a full-time kind of a fiscal person just like they assigned to departments to this Quote-on-quote department So that they have somebody that's sort of dedicated to doing all making sure all the paperwork moves through at a timely manner and that's the full burden cost of that is somewhere in the neighborhood of $75,000 to $8,000 with benefits and salary so that was the number he gave me. Okay because this one is I noticed that was on the career source where there's two physical assistance that are there but career source also I think it's a 6.8 million or it's just a much larger thing this I mean this is a very small organization right at 750 to $800,000 per year that it brings in right but I guess which brings me to the larger question of how Sepable is this, which is what I was always kind of looking in here, which is that, let's say we hired an executive director, we get down the line executive directors, and we're going to renegotiate this point, or maybe the county wants to come back and say, hey, we did this because we were trying to be supportive, but we, that's all cost of doing this is X amount. How would that work under some of what we've in yet? In terms of severability, it can be terminated for without cause with 180 days notice. In terms of renegotiating, so that's sort of always out there. In terms of this term, I believe we've got three or four years is written now. I think it's a three years with a 5% escalator. Oh, a 5% escalator. Where's that escalator? It is under number 34. My thought was as I was going through children's trust, there's was year to year. It was put for that course of, I think, 2019 and the year after the year, it could be renegotiated up that point. Which I thought made a little more, well, if we did this year to year and we ended at the end of the fiscal year, that would mean that we're renegotiating about six months. So my thought was we would have this go through the end of the fiscal year of 26. So it would be ending September 30th, 2026, and then annually, it could be renegotiated if an executive director comes in at that point. And it's easier for us to just say, we're gonna do this at a four-year chunk, because I think it seems like we're doing, the county's doing more for AMTPO than they were doing for children's trust. I mean, these are all employees of the county. These are all, there is $150,000 in press account. There's various things that it might make sense to have for a longer period of time. I would like to have that kind of flexibility on the front end to say, what makes sense? What doesn't make sense? Because we just, as it stands now, the county has kind of come forth with the numbers. They all seem reasonable to me, though I'm not an expert in any of this. But I would like to have, at some point, more of an arms distance kind of negotiation to see what makes sense, which doesn't make sense. And so if I were to bring for something forward, I'd say that the motion would to approve all of this with the change of that, the effective, that is effective upon recording of the document, that this agreement continued through September 30th, 2026, as opposed to what's currently written here which is September 30th, 2028 that it's an additional one-year period instead of an additional four-year period and then removal of item, I believe it's three. Three on attachment today? Three attachment A on attachment A. If that, if the county is comfortable with that, I'm not, you know, do you guys feel sure what our renegotiate is every year? I just want us to be able to renew it, like the possibility of renewing it every year. Like I said, that's how the children's trust was structured. That's the reason I bring it up here. And maybe when the executive director comes in, they say, we'll, you know, Let's just make this a four-year term. But my guess is, if we're comfortable with it, it'll just show up on consent agenda as, you know, just re-upping it year over year. But at least it gives them the opportunity to have that discussion. Have that one. Wait. I got one. Is there a reason why it was suggested the three-year interval to begin with? I mean, I guess I, I don't really have a strong feeling about it either way, but I guess I just like the less paperwork administration or staff have to do to prepare things and like lawyers look at over and organize things, you know what I mean? Like it's just it's a lot of time and energy every single time one of these things ends up on an agenda. Like to us is just like oh it just happens annually and it just shows up on the excited agenda and we just pass it, but that's not really true behind the scenes. Behind the scenes, there's a bunch of people scrambling to get the paperwork ready to make sure everything's good and to have... to us is just like, oh, it just happens annually. And it just shows up on the consent agenda. And we just pass it. But that's not really true behind the scenes. Behind the scenes, there's a bunch of people scrambling to get the paperwork ready to make sure everything's good and to have those dialogues. And it's another meeting. So I just want to be mindful of that. And if it's a, I guess I get it for the long term ones, It's like a smooth sailing contract, but like at the beginning of this where the second director is gonna have a lot under their belt to deal with, or they're really gonna want to be. If they know, they can just stick on and send it. sailing contract but like at the beginning of this where the second director is going to have a lot under their belt to deal with or they really kind of want to be. If they know, then you just stick on consent to say, you know, we can also amend it at any time. I mean we do amendments all the time as well. We could, I mean both parties would have to agree to it. Alright, so if you're doing that three year, you would then say okay, we might use the, I guess the sever-the severability portion of this, which would then cancel everything. It just seems like it's cleaner, just say we're gonna renegotiate at that point and then maybe at that point. We might use the severance, the severability portion of this, which would then cancel everything. It just seems like it's cleaner. I just say we're going to renegotiate at that point and then maybe at that point, like I said, it's a four-year contract. Which I mean, I have a feeling we're not even going to get this person hired. I mean, it's going to take us six months to like get it advertised, you know, get somebody going and then negotiate. like we're not even gonna be through this. I just don't think 18 months is long enough. I guess that's my point for that first term. Like I don't care about the annual renewal. That's really important to you, but I do think we should keep the first set of this like long enough. I guess that's my point for that first term. Like I don't care about the annual renewal. That's really important here, but I do think we should keep the first set of this like long enough that that person gets in office, gets knowing what they're doing. Like that's really only about a year and a half of them being in office. All right, so they'd be in the middle and they'd have about a year before they could negotiate. I said, if they wanted to do four years, I don't feel very strong about it. It's now a three year period from when they get in. They'll be continuing to do work under this contract before they can even have a chance to say. And like I said, if they wanted to do four years, I don't feel very strong about it. It's just it's now a three year period from when they get in. They'll be continuing to do work under this contract before they can even have a chance to say. And like I said, this is the first time I'm seeing it, this one is before us. So I don't know one way or the other, but I don't know if there's been an arms-length negotiation in this one. I would like someone to do it. I would like the go-sution at some point. And if everything is good, everything is good. Yeah, yeah. I would like to thank you. Thank you. I would just propose, Brian, we had a year, maybe 27, so we're trying to stand up this organization, stand up a new employee, and then let the executive director get in and then transition over. They can get up to speed quicker than they can. We can move the camera in six months. But I think 2027 is acceptable. That's acceptable to you all. It's just, it just adding one year, but it's also I think helping the organization gets to that. So I would second your motion with that one change if that's acceptable to the city. Mr. Book, did you have? I'm similarly positioned as both of you all is. We've just gone through about eight months to get to stability. So we don't want to immediately then turn around September, 2026. We will have likely just hiring somebody. Let's hope that we have somebody getting on. So I think we just need some more time and some concrete detail for the person who's going to get in there to say, wait a minute, I just got in there two months later. It's at least coming up consent or not. and there is some behind the scenes work. So let's get to a point where we've really massaged the change, got to the new structure. And then... So we have consent or not. And there is some behind the scenes work. So let's get to a point where we've really misaged the change, got to the new structure, and then perhaps in a year, essentially in a year. That's what you're saying, Commissioner Cornell, we're re-evaluating. That sounds reasonable to me. You okay, I'm gonna change. That was a little bit. All right, so I'll second your motion with that change. And I do want to thank the county staff for doing what looks like a very reasonable contract. I mean, I'm not bound to any red flags or any issues with this. It looks in some ways. with that change? Yeah, that's fine. And I do want to thank the county staff for doing what looks like a very reasonable contract. To me, I'm not bound to any red flags or any issues in this. It looks in some ways like very reasonable. So thank you guys for all your hard work on it. I only have one other question, and if I can. And that is, I asked this already, and I think the attorney said there was a way that they could play around with the language. Number 32 says the county shall implement all policies and decisions extra to the MTPO and the direction of the MTPO executive director. But we don't currently have an executive director. So currently it's under the direction of this board and the and when we get it. So I didn't know if we needed to add that explicitly or if we could just if that was just sort of like unwritten, but what's going to happen until executive director comes on and can direct things but like to hire them we have to direct the county to post the job and we have to direct the county to you know for the salary and all those things so if you wanted we could add some language in there that says something like until such time and executive director is hired county staff will answer to the andTPO, something along those lines. That doesn't hurt. I'm sorry. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Are we getting too deep in the weeds for this one thing that we're trying to do? I mean, I think ultimately it's whatever the NTPO feels comfortable with. You're just we're trying to ensure that when you give staff direction that there is something in the agreement that a fine staff to follow. Because what I was looking at here is just to authorize to enter agreement for staff services for administrative due to, you know, and I didn't know if we were adding too many layers of it too soon. No, Everybody good? These are the terms of agreement and it's more the indicator of you and me. I got it. Okay. Okay. Good. You know, can you say your state, your motion again? And then I might want to have you repeat the portion of the news. So the motion is to approve the interlocal staff service agreement with the changes that we make that effective upon recording of the document. This agreement continued through September 30th, 2027. Change it to an additional one year period and removal of item three on attachment A and then. And then the addition of the county shall take direction of the MTPO board in the absence of an executive director. Okay that's clear that's nice thank you. All right and we had a motion that was your motion in a second. Gornal Cornell second. All right. Okay. Thank you any further discussion Go ahead yes, Cornell move to her second second Okay, no further discussion here any any yeah any anyone from the community You would like to speak to this TINA. Before we go on before this motion is voted upon it, what's Brian was Commissioner Eastman said something about the school board member not voting and I want to get some clarification on that because that's not what I understood. We're not voting. The school board member is not voting. Not yet. When you're required, you will be. And that will happen when we do that. It sounds like when this is. We're. So we are final. So it's not the action of the board. It's the action of all the parties. Every once we finalize their local get all the. Ed is from the various parties. Each one has to adopt it and execute it. And then we then you become a voting member. So it's not actually an action by the board. So we'll coordinate and I've talked to Will at the school board about the draft and we've gotten some changes and edits from the county and the city. And so we also have to get the airport as well. Is it a matter of getting approved from their representative organizations? Is that what it is? OK. And the air law in the airport, right? We approved the October and November. Yeah. You approved your membership. The agreement has to be approved and executed. And so I mean, each body is different. but you have to have the authority to sign that agreement. So I'm assuming that, for example, the school board will have to take up a resolution to authorize the chair to sign it so that you become a sitting member. OK, so you just need a letter from each of these organizations or any of these. No, no, no. Each one has to sign. There's actually an interlocal agreement that everybody will sign okay that's a partner on this okay okay okay okay okay okay okay are we planning to get that to their next regular agenda as a couple we will we we've got some we've got finalize I haven't I need to follow up on the airport and make sure we've we've got from them, but I don't think so. So I think we're good. OK, I think we've gotten the last of the revisions and comments. So all right. OK, well, no further discussion. Any, I'm sorry. I just realized the one thing we also talked about doing was the county being responsible for the small cities representative Do we need to put that into this And minister is that's not really an administrative task but we talked about us being the ones to post it and Or to do whatever we were gonna do with it like they would make the recommendation, but then ultimately I don't think it's necessarily a part of the administrative services. It's more in the Interrogly Green Method Create Great. creating that. Oh, great. Thank you. Yeah, it could be in the bylaws, but ultimately it'd be something that's served the membership qualifications for the overall agreement. Okay, great. Thank you. And just to note that correspondence has been sent to the small cities to identify and solicit a reference else. Okay, there's no other discussion from the board. Is anyone from the community like to speak to the motion? All right, sitting none. All in favor say I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. All right, sitting none. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. can see that there was a revision. And I want to – and this kind of came up in the TAC. the CAC was concerns like, oh, what – this is mean that 50 percent of our bridges, bridges, decks are not in good conditions. It's like 0.4 percent. So, you know, the – that is actually strengthening of the target as it relates to the percentage of NHS bridges classified in poor condition in deck areas, from 10 percent to 5 percent. And then in addition, you can see the person miles traveled on the system performance on non-interstate national highway system that are reliable, so the reliability measure is actually increasing. And then also the travel time reliability, which is sort of a mix, a measure of a full travel distance versus a localized travel distance. And I just – some of these – because it's statewide, some of the urban areas struggle with some of these matters more than either rural or smaller urbanized areas. So your nutmer is really good. So you're not any risk on any of these targets. And in many ways, you're doing much better. But as a reference, the travel time reliability – that's one where a couple of the urban areas have struggled. So they kind of adjusted it statewide, and that's why that number is going up. But it's not a reflection of how the system is performing here. MS. MR. MS. MR. MS. MR. MS. FD or two targets. Second. And authorize. Staff administrative labor. Okay, so Pritzia, motion. Re-mission motion. Second. Will it. Will it. Second. All right. Any further discussion? All in favor say aye. I like sign-apost. The motion carries as well. Okay. Mr. Gomez ready to do the next one? Or is that you, Mr. Dorgon? If I put a transportation improvement program in there. Hey, Susan. But if he's not here, that's fine, because it's actually and every time you can talk about this one. I'll introduce it if you've got questions. This is pretty much, this is an amendment to the tip, the current year, to incorporate 53-10 funds. And there are actually two items. So the next one is related. This is actually operating funds and they're my $200,000. So it's the Federal Transit Administration's 53-10, or, excuse me, 53-10 program, which provides funding for older adults and people with disabilities. And you can use funds for operating and for capital. So this is actually programming in the tip, $200,000, for the operating side, for current year. And these aren't funds that can be used elsewhere. These are transit agency, they qualify, and they are very specific uses. So, but they need to show up in the, in the tent. So, okay. I had a question, man. Yes, yes. So, when I was understanding greenness, this would mean, for example, we could use these funds for transit for fair free or for older adults or something like that. That's where these funds could be in the plane It is operating the system. I don't know I'm not sure about the fair free But I think it's the main thing that sister learning right for operating like driver hours and then the equipment needed to Yeah, so even if it's not designated to the program, it's operational cost that we can use for those things. That's really what I wanted to just make sure. Yeah, that's right. As opposed to road improvement. Okay. Is this change based on a request from RTS or based on a funding that came down that they're just trying to allocate This additional money that's coming into the tippers is shifting money that's in existing. This is a reflection of what the formula Yes, these are recurring funds every year. RTS received the funds through us. Through the game. Yeah. These are formula programs. So that's not like they're applying for it. They just get it. They get told how much they're getting. Gotcha. This seems like an easy ask to me and easy amendment. Book I know I basically say recommend the MDBO. I'm in the fiscal year to include these 53-10 funds. Second. Okay. Book second and Duncan Walker. Book motion Book motion. Duncan Walker. Second. Yes. That's right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you all. Any further discussion? Questions? All right. All in favor say aye. All right. Oh, did you have? Okay. Anyone from the public of this one be one that would affect someone from the public. Thank you, Mayor. No? All right. All in favor say aye. Aye. By the by sign opposed, that motion passes unanimously. All right, then. We have another one that was assigned. Yes. And this is for 167,000 or capital assistance. It can can be used for equipment, vehicles, et cetera. Okay. So now given the cost of vehicles, I'm assuming, mostly, this is equipment, but maybe one, you might be able to get one cut away, you're not sure, but again, this is for me, the funds that can all go to the RTS and for capital improvements. Capital projects. So what's yes for purchasing is that what you're saying, Commissioner? Yeah. Comments are capital. OK. Will it's a movement for this? The 503 program for the purchase vehicles portion of this capital. OK. We have a motion from Commissioner Willitz and a second from Eastman. All right, any further questions about this from us, from the board? Anybody from the community would like to speak to this motion. All right, go for other questions or comments. All in favor say aye. Aye. Like Son of Post, all right. That motion carries as well. Okay then, Mr. Tho, we're in this one is yours, right? Joint certification review. It's sort of ours and the departments. Oh, okay. So we go through this is a process that the MPO has to go through annually with FDIT and at the previous one meeting we shared the is an information item of the joints for part one, which was what we had done collect in collaboration with the department and then part two is now on this as well, which is more financial and risk side. And so this is something that has to happen every year. It's actually a great, good process, because it kind of gives you some ideas of the boxes you need to make sure you check through the year, especially as an organization that's going through transition and with the staff services that the county's providing, certain training requirements, procurement requirements, and things like that. So it's a good kind of measuring stick, and so this is, but annually you need to approve this, and you have to have a done by June 1, I think. June 30th. June 30th, so we're getting this one out of the way. Right, okay, great. We got 100%. It looked like like so. Okay, let's go. So you're keeping us in line. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions for Ms. Brown? Questions, but I would note that this is a thing that used to hang us up in May and June every year. We released two or three years in a own. We had the emergency meetings to make sure we got this passed. But there was nothing else to do with it. It really, really pleased to see this moving forward. And earlier in the process, because it is, I think, it was troublesome before. Maybe editorial, but I think that FDOT took note of that and made sure that we did it. One of the red flags. I move of the joint certification review parts one and two. All right. Second. All right. Motion, presentation, and second Duncan Walker. Thank you all. All right. Any further discussion about Miss Brown keeping into South of trouble. Anybody from the community want to acknowledge this woman? Call in favor say aye. I like son of pose. Thank you. All right. And Mr. Thoburn, I think you have the next two as well. Yes. And this one kind of will tie back into ultimately into viola of some of the conversation that was raised earlier about processes. But when we, one of the things that's an issue for our tip of amendments is they have to be the actual step of amendment in the state transportation for the plan has to be executed. So so many needs to signatory authority to do that. And so what this simply does is it gives the county manager or there does need the authority to go in and do those sign those documents. And there's actually is a project that's waiting for that signature. So it's really important that this happens now. When we go and when we do approve the bylaws, this is an item that can be incorporated in the bylaws, but we really don't want to wait for projects to be put on hold. In fact, and literally money at risk in this case. So news that we have got the African manager of designida have temporary signature authority for the stip anonymous. Second, okay, it's motion, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, years. So if we don't, we're already running behind. Thanks a lot. Okay. Any further questions? Yeah, the, and I can't recall the process from before, but we had it, we had something where there was an emergency tip amendment over the holidays I want to say, or is it, Was that a tip amendment specifically? Was that a... That was a tip amendment and the process is that the executive director has the authority to execute a tip amendment and but it has to come to the board for as an information item or consent item I would think the next meeting and so that's what what we did with that. Now obviously in the absence of an executive director to do an emergency to tip amendment would not have that same opportunity. So we'd have to, I think we might, it may be that the chair could sign it, but because it's a tip of amendment, the steps a little different because you have to actually go into the state system and sign it, right? And so when we do the bylaws, that'll be an item that we would wanna add as well, is to make sure that the executive director or we could assign it to the county manager similarly, that they have the authority do an emergency tip of that. Well, I mean, once this becomes a leaning independent organization, I mean, this would all be under the executive director, right? I mean, this is a temporary measure. It would be, except in the case where the executive director position is vacant. And so it's pretty normal for the bylaws to have a process that says in the absence of an executive director that so-and-so has the signing authority. Okay, so I guess I'm comfortable with it. I don't know what it means to like if there's any major changes it can be made with the emergency tip of them at that and in lieu of having an executive director that's appointed by us that's going through to Cal State. I think it's nice to have that kind of arms distanced relationship there. And so I doubt we'll have any see tip of moments in that way. But yeah, it's a way to imply that this space is a temporary measure. So I guess I'm not uncomfortable. All right. All right. And anyone from the community might just speak to the motion. All right. All in favor say aye. All right. All in favor say aye. All right. Like a sign of pose. Thank you very much. Mr. Thoban, you got one more on that list. Yeah. And this one, I'm going to have to, I'll have to explain this one carefully. So make sure. So back in, in, in, you may, some of you may recall, call in December when we were in the process of separating from the RPC, there was a motion that was brought to the MTPO to continue to have the RPC served as the designated official planning agency for transportation disadvantage services in the county. There was a resolution that was drafted, adopted, and executed. In the meantime, based on communications with the Commission for Transportation Disadvantaged, which is a state agency which oversees the transportation disadvantaged program. And it's a complex program with a lot of different entities that are involved But essentially every county has to have a designated official planning agency in urbanized areas the MPO is by default the the the don't what they call the dope on and if it for it to actually go to the RPC the Commission commission for transportation disadvantage has to make that, they have to make that designation based on a request from the MPO or MTPO in this case. They will only do that at the beginning of the fiscal year. So the situation that we're in is that the desire of the MTPO was to have the RPC continue those services, but they're really not officially the Dope-O. So what this resolution does, and we talked to the Commission for Transportation Disavage, about this is it allows the MTPO to contract for the staff services with the RPC. So they effectively do the same thing, but you on paper will still be the Dopa. The other thing that the resolution does is it authorizes the MTPO or directs theampedi PO to support the request of the CTD to make the RPC the Dopa effective July 1. And so essentially it does, so there's this is like a transition thing. And just for awareness, the RPC, it's very common for the Regional Planning Council to be the Dope Up. It happens throughout the state. The Dope Up, like it is. The designated official planning agencies are. Okay, thank you. Thank you. They get planning funds to do that. It's about, I think, it's $27,000 a year. The RPC is the designated official planning agency for every other county within the North Central Florida Regional Planning Council is the designated official planning agency for every other county in their service area. So this is something that they do. They're very, it's, they're used to doing it and in this case, you know, there'll be a process of billing and reversing the RPC. So that's really the issue is, you know, we're kind of a bandaid here until we get to July. And this was kind of the solution that we identified to kind of continue the direction that was given by the board in December, but after we got the feedback from the commission that the resolution didn't really carry any weight with them. So we needed to kind of take a different attack. What happened to you? They. They will be they they they you will be kind of extracted from all the process of you know the staff the contractual agreement the processing of my that kind of so they'll still they'll do it they'll they'll be the dopa just like they are for every other county in the region. So they'll get the money directly they'll get yeah they'll exactly they they build to the commission, the region. So. They'll get the money directly. They'll get, yeah, they'll, exactly. They build to the commission, the commission provides them planning funds. Commission Prissy, I guess I'm interested to understand a little bit more about what the Dopa does for the Transportation Justice Management Program and why it's advantageous for the other MTPOs to use the Regional Planning council as opposed to doing those actions themselves. That's a really good question and I will note that at the next board meeting there's going to be a presentation related to a study that Qatar did on this and the department did a study as well. It was legislation last session to kind of examine this overall system. The commission for, excuse me, the designated official planning agency is just what it says. They are the ones that plan for, and they help set performance standards and evaluation criteria and things like that. They also have a local coordinating board, and they staff that local coordinating board. And they coordinate closely with the commission, the community transportation coordinator, which is actually the operator that delivers the TD services. And it's a very complex network of providers, because you have the TD commission, which provides transportation disadvantage, but you also have, I think, seven other purchasing agencies like the agency for people with disabilities, and they all have different programs. And so they help coordinate that effort. But I do think that the presentation next meeting will be useful in terms of understanding that overall program. I see some folks that I clearly have some understanding of it, which is good. Next month, I guess that's frustrating to me. I know we're going to find out more. One of the better understanding of this relationship and how it all works and what the advantages and disadvantages are of this structure next month, but we're deciding on this structure this month. That just have to do this now and say above board. Yeah. And this is just going to get us through to July. And then July, we could make a different determination potentially. You could, I mean, this is not a recommendation, but you could proceed with, for example, the contracting with the RPC. And you could defer the conversation about making that longer term switch because they won't make that that that that designation till July 1. So all this resolution does two things. You could you could sever one of those items and take it up later if you wanted to. That's what we put them together because it was consistent with the resolution from December but it wasn't because that was a staff recommendation. One makes sure I understand this. So this is having RPC, B, R, In our innocence contractor between now and July and then supporting the RPC's submission, I guess, or request to the CTD to become our Dopa. Correct. Because you need to, they need to hear from both the RPC and the MTPO that both parties desire the RPC to become the Dopa. Okay. In lines with our, we want to put things out for one year versus two years with our, whatever. I would argue that then we should go with this as Britain to give one year for, you know, starting on July 1st. This is not a, but this can be changed a year later, I assume, with RPC. So July 1st, 2026, we could be in a different position. We have a different idea. It runs for the C2D's perspective, runs for the fiscal year. So if you determine, at point next year that you really did want to be the dopa, then that would be something that you could request back to the CTD. Okay. I think I'll support it because that lines up more with this idea like, you know, with the EDIs in time. Some time. But I do have a question about the CTD, the commission. Is this one of the boards of commissions targeted by Florida Doge? Or do they do enough real work that the governor's not targeting them? Okay, but that's a larger question of like of the things we do or anything because I haven't seen a full list, I haven't seen a list of what the state might be targeting. No, I'm not aware of any that this, that the transportation disadvantage or the structure or the all the entities because each county has a dope, but each county has a CTC that,, well, I will say this, the department did a study, the cutter did a study. There was also an ice street study that was based on how to utilize technology for these services. The DOT presented to the Senate Transportation Committee and at this point, there's been no legislative action and so they are proceeding with various recommendations from that report. And so there, it is likely that there will be changes to the overall transportation disadvantage program but it doesn't target the entities so much. So that's my understanding of it. But it is a program that, as you could tell, has a lot of different actors, a lot of different folks involved and they provide very important services. And so there is an interest in ensuring the efficient delivery of those services. Okay, thank you Mr. Thorough. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, Brad. All right, I had a question. I was reading this and it says that there was a resolution passed in December 2nd, 2025. Is that like just a time before? It's a time before. It's a time before. That's right. So I wasn't, I wasn't following it. But if you had an explanation to Anna kind of like gave me a little insight. Thank you. Ms. Brad, thank you. I care Brown, planning manager with FDOT. Brad, I just wanted to make sure I don't recall us discussing with CTTD about if the MTPO relinquishes the dose, the designation as a dopa, what it means for them to then reapply and essentially going up against the RPC to, you know, regain the Dopa Act, the Dopa designation. And the support is currently, we will be supporting the MTPO before we'll be supporting the RPCS Dopa, but would that be reversed in a year? And I don't know. Didn't necessarily discuss that. We did not discuss that. I'm just referring, like because the statute says that the MTPO is by default the Dopa. So if my, I mean, I'm not an attorney, but based on the statute, if the MTPO wants to be the Dope, they are already identified if I default, it's the Dope. In the statute, if that makes sense. In case this resolution to make it through a date certain, so that expires a definition at which point then we can either redo it or we can take on that responsibility. Through July 1st, 2016. That's maybe that the recommended. I would like us to be at once. Once we're stood up as an organization to function that way. It just won't be until at least a minute like two. And it may be that the ED realizes that there's benefit in having the RPC do it and have it coordinated regionally and then they can make that recommendation, right? So I- Could we modify this recommendation? For the fiscal year, 2026. 2026, yeah. So the fiscal year, 256. Okay. Or you hear a care of that motion? Yes, you made it right? No, we were just so tired. I just said I would support it. I would move that. Okay. Are you okay with that motion? To the KCC? Yes. You made it, right? Did you make the motion? No, we were just so talking about it. I just said I would support it. I would move that the resolution authorizing the experience in the MTPO and the most of the four legal planning council, the service supports that to the MTPO and carrying out the designated official planning agency function for the transportation and disavainage program in the Latin County of Cruz, officially year June 30th, 2026. Second. All right. I'm on motion. In a second. Second. Thank you. Is that work with us, Edward? I'll work with you. Sure. OK. Any further discussion about motion? Anyone from the community? My favorite saying hi. I like sign of post. Right that motion passes unanimously. We're moving along. Information or items down. Commissioner Eastman. Yeah. So we did not have a meeting for the transition subcommittee this month. We are meeting on March 10th. So just coming up, we'll be reviewing the executive executive director position description So with the approval of what we just did with the see here Where we proved the staff service agreement that that puts the county in the HR role So we'll be discussing what that position description looks like and then sort of what the recruitment and vetting of that executive director position Looks like or so course it will be led by county HR, but then how does that work in terms of the subcommittee versus, you know, what this bringing executive directors back to this board. I don't know if anyone has any thoughts or ideas as to how involved this board wants to be in the full process of, you know, meeting the executive directors, vetting the executive directors. For sure, at some point we'll probably bring a smaller smaller group to all of you all of that sort of one of the discussions we'll be having about that government subcommittee as well as looking at the bylaws which I think Brad you said you have drafted the series of my laws right so just as I said in previous meetings just trying to make sure that we have the minimum that we need to to make sure that we are moving through this transition period, getting everything in there, so making sure that the bylaws include school board, make sure they involve their port, authority, make sure that everything is important, and that once we give the executive director along making sure that that is, that that, that, that, that, that, if we want to do kind of more large scale changes or things that make sense for the bylaws, we can do it that that point you're just trying to get what we have to to make sure that this transition is going back to the kind of recruitment and betting. I don't know if anyone has any strong feelings about how much input they want with the executive director where that would go. Yes, and point him. With gratitude, I would say that I completely trust the subcommittee to narrow it down to three. And then if we could have maybe a public meeting where we could all, we as a board could interview or talk to those three, that would be my. Yes. Yep. I think if we all try to get people involved in that search after HR and I think it could really get back down. With this many people. Yeah, with this many people. I think the subcommittee, more qualified to get it out of three. I think that makes a lot of sense. And who is scheduling those subcommittee meetings? Is that the city clerk is doing that for us right now? They're handling the subcommittee. That was a discussion before we came in here. Who is scheduling the subcommittee? Because it's at the city, I go through their process of putting it in a meeting for press and then I what I've done is because I'm not entirely sure what happens at that point when it goes in that I've I have sent out an outlook invite with the agenda on it. Yeah. And because I was, because it's not like this, where I got it on eScribes. Yeah. So it's a little different. And so. Yeah. So I get, I'm not to bog this whole committee down in this, but just quickly, I don't think they're actually reaching out to us. I don't know if that anybody reached out to actually ask us about our availability. I just got a calendar invite and actually overlapped with another meeting I have with city staff regarding CRA stuff, so it's like at the exact same time. So, you know, it's not, I can fix it personally, but I'm just letting whoever's managing that know that I think they actually probably need to get with all of the members of the subcommittee and figure out our availability and set a standard time. So that we can just always have the meeting and it's on our calendars instead of just getting an invite because that's not working. This is the first time you've been invited to one where you're not available. Yes. I think the last time I canceled something for it, actually. Okay, four requests. Okay, thanks. So are we still having this meeting on March 10th? I don't know. I'm figuring that out. You're still at least getting some of that. Yes, we're having it. The other thing I can probably move is more easily. Yes. And just for clarification, the reason that we wanted to have the meeting now was because with the staff services agreement being approved, it created the opportunity to move through with the position description and we wanted to accelerate that conversation. Okay, I think for the questions for Commissioner Eastman. Oh, there you are. Yeah, thank you, Chair. Just, I think that when it comes back for the three that I think individual members want to meet individually with those. The exact directorates and interview them. I think that'd be good as well. I'm glad to get that discussion to the private. I think as much as we can copy the way that I don't know how the county does charter officer recruitment. I've been talking with our HR staff about our charter officer recruitment. I mean, that's a very similar process, right? You have a list of folks that you know you whittle down, make sure they hit certain specifications. And then at some point how much involvement do you guys all want to have in terms of one on one meetings public meetings I know for our charter officer recruitment will do sort of like there might be community meetings I don't know if that's necessary for this particular one, but I mean as much as we can copy anything I think we we do this process quite a bit as we're recruiting new charter officers and new county managers and like that So I think I think that's probably a good way to do it. That's how we would do it at least is if anyone wants to be one of more than a city manager, you know, and things like that. So I think that's probably a good way to do it. That's how we would do it at least. If anyone wants to be one of them, they do city manager recommendation, things like that. They'd be able to sit down and do that. Makes sense. Good. OK. OK. OK. We don't have to do anything with that. So Mr. Thoburn, are you ready for the next one? Yeah, the next two are related. There's the public participationation Plan and the Title 6 Limited English Proficiency documents that are being updated as moving, again, moving from the RPC. It also will include the public participation, public and public plan that guides the LIDP so it's a time-lapse that we can, that approved as they move into the workshops. So, like, for example, they're advertising based on the old plan, which is, and things like, you know, there's certain notice requirements in the old plan that are sort of anacquated. And so we're updating those, condense the documents. And we have to put it out for a 45-day public comment period. So we noticed in the newspaper that it was being updated. We provide a legal notice. been's been published on the website, and we will adopt it. And the plan is to have both the documents adopted and at the next board meeting. We'll meet the 45-day requirement for public comment. Mr. Christie. I guess I just had a question and a request, I guess, that in addition, I know this isn't required. And so we've met or we can check our box. But if it's possible that the city, the county, the Air Force, or the school, or like other members of this board would also be willing to put out information about public participation opportunities. I think a lot more of our citizens pay attention a city of Gainesville news release than the MTPO website and the Gainesville Sun. So unfortunately. So if we could get whatever information is out there about what's going to be happening and make sure that all the entities in this that want to have the resources to put out information would put out information that would be great. Mr. Buck. Yeah, I thank you, Madam Chair. I was thinking also be above the minimum threshold of getting out to the community. And we have Manager Moss has this long range transportation plan, which is coming up just in a couple of weeks. And I don't know if this is something I've tried to put down. Just maybe something that could be pushed out there also, merely in providing the information for feedback, because you're going to have people already coming to that that are interested in transportation and modal. And so that seems to me to be an easy tabling option. These are going to be your heavy hitters as far as people with information for feedback. And I thought that would be good. But what you said, I agree. We should put it in, you know, you've gone from a fairly closed bureaucratic system to restructuring to make sure that we get more feedback from the community. And that's really good as it relates to transportation initiatives. Also, I know, since we're paying the county for EO, we do also have a language translate. We have like a personal board that does translation of public information so we can also translate it into Spanish when we get it out. And just for the doc, for your awareness, the document is written to be kind of a baseline and would you notice if the old public participation plan was a little bit prescriptive and as kind of the way we engage folks changed it didn't change. And so this document is going to create that baseline but it's not expected that that is all you do. And so the items like you're talking about are expressly permissible and encouraged as part of your public engagement strategy. But the document itself will kind of create that baseline but ensure some level of flexibility. So you're not putting something, I legal notice in the newspaper that nobody's gonna see. So. Thank you. Yeah, there's questions. I have a quick question about, I don't understand limited English proficiency plan There I am not an expert in this provision but there are requirements that based on the percentage For the size of the the number of folks that do have a limited English proficiency to see that don't speak English and as a percentage of your population that you have certain requirements that you need to meet in terms of producing documents that are accessible. I'm basically going to be affected at all by the new proclamation that English is now the accepted language we're not going to be able to more translate these kinds of things. There is a we can't translate it just English is the official language. These are statutory requirements. Okay. Okay. So far we're okay. And we would presume that we're meeting this statutory Okay, all right. I was just Good question. They will be having it Okay Is that all for you to serve over on those yeah, and those are two items and I do think it's as important that Those items are that the public is as an opportunity's important that those items are, that the public has an opportunity to speak on those items? All right, okay. All right. Now, you don't need to, you don't need to vote on these, right? No. This is just for information. All right, is there anything from the community who would like to speak? Either of these two items. Public participation plan or the limited English proficiency plan. It's just different. All right. Okay, Miss Granville. So last meeting we did take some comments from you guys about the slip lane on Archer and we went back and the new proposed is including the signal at the slip lane and keeping the race crosswalk. So thank you. Awesome. This is the new updated concept of, you know, based on the last two two concepts a lot of pedestrian improvements based on your comments and concerns We did receive based on this concept some comments from Linda that we are still evaluating and looking into and hoping to hopefully You know make some further improvements, but this is where we are now and we will be programming soon Thank you. We appreciate you taking your time back and listening to us. Yes. Thank you. Is that back up as well? I do not have the original on here. I did not have the signal. It did not have a full signal. This. For that. This was here and this is right here. That's great.. Yeah. Thank you, Chair. And now this is definitely significantly in improvements to the intersection. I do have a couple questions. I apologize for these rancor last time. It looks like the width of the sidewalks are mostly 12 feet. Is that great? I can't idea. Superficly. Is there a nine? I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. questions and apologize to these rancers last time. It looks like the wetter side walks are mostly 12 feet. Is that right? Looking at it. Superficly placed there, nine. It's just a tiny little space one right away. They have a way to go. Yeah. Looking at the little things here. One other thing is on the southeast corner where you have right down a little, if you bring your arrow down a little bit, where that saw is there. I don't know if there's any discussion of moving that saw to the road and the sidewalk behind, so you're having more separation between the road and the, where the pedestrians and bikes would be instead. There's definitely intense there. Yeah, so having, just having more, not having them directly next to the road if possible. I don't know if there's something that's been looked at. Maybe, yeah. Okay. Yes, that is related to the retaining wall. So that's part of the support for the retaining wall. Oh, okay. I don't know. Yeah. No can do. And then I guess one of the just question on the Southwest corner, I guess some of these turns are, I mean this I think it seems like a lot of the bikes are using this, but some of these turns are kind of very sharp. Like if someone's coming across on the, I see you move there, do my moving your, no they're good. Moving your mouse up a little bit, left, left, left, up a little more, more left, more left, more left, right, a little more left. For the sidewalk there, yeah, up there. So if someone's coming, can you move it up a little bit more you want me to? No I'll just point I'm not a very sure I'm turning for someone turning right big month here but if somebody's have like terms and I was having a little I know small little thing that can make a big difference when this is taking people have lights that are turning here. Is that the curve there? And... Particularly because the current segment trail is on the south side there. So before trying to get over bikes, we're trying to get there. They're not trying to stand the north side of our trip. And they're gonna be trying to get there. And then I don't know if it's the very sharp turns here of the possible to have a less sharp turn. It's just hard to be taking a sharp 90-degree turn. I mean, the light is a little sweet. The light, they need to stop and wait for a light. So, that's my turn. I think very much. Any other questions? Just for you. Thank you. A lot of people very happy. Glad you're on our team. Thank you. A lot of people very happy. Glad you're on the routine. This is over. Long range transportation plan update. What you got? This is in your packet. Okay. There are actually new. New is your pay, whip page. Those. The last. That's very last. But Allison has a new version because it has the EEO reference. So this is a. Yeah. Or. Yeah. Okay. new version because it has the EEO reference in it. So this is a or compliant version. So this is a workshop that will be one of the workshops for the update of the long transportation plan that's aimed to reaching out to potential stakeholders in the public to get input. So this will be at the end of March, well March 24th. And it is like, make sure what you mentioned, it's a good opportunity to get folks with folks who are interested in transportation issues. Sure is. And that is just an information line. All right, good work. There is also, there's also a link to the survey. So if you can also get out there to the public to take the survey, that's going to help us develop the LRTP from the public comments. Indoor yours. Yes. So you don't have to attend the market survey. Get the market. Would you say that again? You don't have to attend to take the survey. I'm going to give you a cue or a code. These are our public announcement person. I mean, we have a PIO. The T.B. station communication, thank you. We have a T.V. station that posts a lot of these things, too, that might be pretty much out of it. Maybe. Yeah, see if we can get into yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, attending the meeting on March 24th. So you guys, wait, where's the meeting? So on your flyers? It is a matter of time. I'm trying to find it quick enough. Freedom Community Center at Veterans Memorial Park. Okay. So it means we all have to end our joint meeting in early enough. Okay. Okay. All right, and then Tina, welcome. Do you have anything special going on over there that we need to know about or no? No, no, no, nothing special. Just general, same old school. Thanks for having me. Well, we're glad to have you here. Thank you. And, uh, regional airport, do you know it? Have you gotten in line with them enough to know what's, how long have you been working with them? Uh, year? Is that right? Oh, yeah. Awesome. Yeah, or we have a parking garage, uh, should be finished in the next three months, I believe. So it's a monster. Yeah, it's quite a few spaces. I'm gains as much as you can. Good. You have. Hey, Linda, aren't you guys? Just one thing you may have heard our Vice President, Mark Kaplan, is stepping away from the University. He was the Vice President of Government and Community Relations. And we had just last fall, slotted him as the official MTPO liaison after Vice President Reynolds had left but now we have to get you a new name but I will continue to attend as their alternate and so you'll have the continuity but we've got some more change coming so he's leaving the university completely? Yes he is. Yes. I'm sorry. I didn't know that. It was never. Yeah. He had some health issues. Last fall, it was out in the medical leave, and he's doing OK now. But I think he's just made him reevaluate and going to go ahead and retire. OK. OK. We'll be more powerful to him. That's right, absolutely, absolutely. All right, anybody from the meetings, upcoming meetings, I think that's listed on page three of this. I don't know if there's anything there that relates to any of us, but except for the veterans memorial. There's a March 24, right? Yeah, okay. Circle that one in. All right, any comments from the group? All right, we'll finish recording. Thank you, ma'am Chair. So I know we have brought this up in the past. This is regarding 301 corridor by Hawthorne and some safety improvements with regards to what I know of a community and the City Commission of Hawthorne has requested. I was gonna ask Ms. Brown if there was any update on that or if there's anything we can do from an MTPO perspective for a recommendation with regards to whether it's a special project or something like we have on Waldo Road with the blinking light at the, what is that? What is that truck stop? They needed a light there at one time. No, it's, well that too. The meme around that is over there. It's safe to improve with the pedestrians. And so I just want to bring that up to see if that's something we could refer to DOT. And I know that the city of Far from Tmanagers here it doesn't speak about the coming. Is that corridor in your LOPP? Any chance? Anything off the lawn or US1? US 301? In a list of priority projects? I can't think of anything. I'm like, it's... We do have a signal. So there's a signal of a lunch truck. So one but that's the big issue because the schools on the south side. That's where when you bought it up, Ken, that made me remember that we did get some requests or some feedback from citizens in that area asking us for some caution lights or something like that because students are walking across the air. And we got those requests then when we dismachanges to our busing. So it's not, you know, the state doesn't fund for hazardous walking for older students, has a decay through six. But they said that intersection is very dangerous for middle and high school students that are walking across there. And it's before the bridge, if I'm not mistaken, it's kind of closer to the south side of the bridge where there's some issues or some concerns. I mean, I'm'm not an engineer but I think something similar to what we have at the Hulper and Trail of Waldo Road which could then be staffed with across the dark during certain hours would be pretty important. Additionally, when the county was applying for a reconnecting communities grant we worked with the manager Talpsons. We unfortunately were not in that grant, but we were looking all up and down that portion of the highway for where we would be going across the opportunity and we heard from the community. But a lot of the middle high schools are crossing at 69 near the park with the lake. And DOT, the district at the time, was evaluating potentially a pedestrian hybrid beacon at that location. Mr. Jim Hagen, I was doing the analysis on that. So last time I reached out to them, I believe they didn't have any more. We have Miss Brown now and so I have a lot of things. The people at this table, we can kind of look that back up. One piece of information I'll add is in the community engagement that we did, there was a sentiment amongst the community that no at grade signal would make them feel safe with people crossing that roadway. They felt the amount of red light running at full signals was so egregious by some of these large trucks. They would be very concerned to have students crossing at grade with a signal. So our grant application was to consider a pedestrian, a bicycle pedestrian bridge over the roadway. I just let you know that. So I did not know that. No accurate signal. There seems to be a pretty low compliance with some of the existing signals. And a lot of the through traffic, which is very heavy. It's become an expressway for real one. I should have predicted. Do you have a Commissioner Pritzid, did you have your hand up? Hi, did I do. I mean, I'm in relation to that comment. I think I was wondering if it might be who this board to ask that we have a meeting with the sheriff at some date in the not-too-distant future, and have the sheriff come to talk to us about traffic enforcement, speed enforcement, and the camera implementation in school zones. So we could just get an update on all those projects. One, the school zones cameras was asked of us, not at the last meeting. And I've reached out for an update. I should be getting one soon, but I didn't get it in time for this meeting. But just getting that dialogue going with him about our concerns around speed on our roads and traffic enforcement at lights where we have noted that there's problems, giving those to him, I think would help him target that traffic enforcement because I know he's low on deputies, so if he could have targeted information, it could be helpful. Thank you very much. I wanted to kind of piggyback off of that. I believe it was at our last meeting of the city commission where we discussed the lights within the city around the schools, etc. So I'm glad to hear your comments on that commission of prissy and also I'm very, very interested to hear what the sheriff would have to say as well, because if there are Cemi-trucks That are yeah, yeah, that are are not adhering to red lights That is something that I would consider an extreme emergency and I would really really hope that There would be very little that would be preventing some officers getting dispatched immediately. That to me is just egregious and frankly unacceptable. So thank you very much. I certainly look forward to hearing back from the sheriff on that. And I certainly hope he's listening. Thank you. Well, we can invite him right to having something that we can do ask our staff to do is to invite him to the district because I know myself and our chair of both ass so I'm over here but I don't think it's well no we just we just did that county I think a better time to do that would be at the joint school board county the lights Is for the You mean the cameras in the schools homes what you're saying can come in Chicago and we can invite them to both me I mean, I just think speed enforcement is a conversation which we have at this meeting because it affects the whole And I also think inviting the sheriff to the joints county. Also. That's a good idea. Come here, sir. Thank you, Madam. Here. So a transportation Florida State Statute Update, both the Alachio County Commission and the Gainesville City Commission supported a House Bill. It's 501. It's related to hands-free legislation. It now has a correlate identical bill in the Senate. It's 1318. So you have representatives on both sides and it's bipartisan. So this boosts the opportunity for that to make it through state statute legislation. The hands free legislation really expands, distracted driving, whether it's not being able to use any device, not being a red text, not being able to use GPS on your phone, you have to use a hands-free device. And so I think that's meaningful. It's moving through. And for those who have contacts with our Electric County Legislative delegation, you'll reach out to their legislative aids. And if you feel you support it as a body or an individual, we want to let them know. I know I've done that and left voice mail or talk to the legislative aids and see how that moves through because that would be an important win for us supporting the legislation if it made it as a state statute. I wanted to go back to the the possible changes or some updates for safety features on the Waldor-Rolle-Corden near Lincoln Middle School. I think that's southeast 12th. There are lights and there's signage that's near the trail. I'm just south of there and that's good for those cyclists there. But the students and pedestrians that's crossing near the school really need some additional help. I've seen school crossing guys almost taken out by semi. It's just me and my infrequent time over there and we've gotten a lot of requests about that area as well as Southeast 43rd Street in front of East Side High School, needing some lighting and like a signal or something, it's a high school. The elementary area has a crossing guard, but there's nothing down at the high school level, and the district has gotten a lot of feedback from concerned citizens in that area for students So that's southeast 43th Street. That's a county road. Oh, it's a county road. OK. Well, I know we improved that slide. Well, OK, we need some mighty. I don't think the county though. If you have you need the school zone as well as some mighty because there's so many students crossing from the apartment complexes, you know, between there. You have to approve the school's own piece, but we do the lighting. So... Right, if you approve of the... Right. Can you hear us about that? Yeah. And what you came to send it to remember. Yeah. So a few things that the kind of detail and what we were talking about. I promised a couple of constituents that I would bring forward the idea of the schools's own on Southeast Fort Third Street and for a beside high school. I wish I could that there wasn't one. And what happened, I balled it myself and was really surprised that there's nothing going on there. And East Side is set back, but still, it could really benefit very obviously from the school zone at the very least there. Additionally, as has been a couple of the mid-reference to at our last City Commission meeting, we directed staff to come back with ordinances for school zone cameras, which we would implement at Talbot Elementary and Lincoln Middle School, which helps that whole thing there. And red light cameras, both of which are available by statute now. And so we were, we were doing almost, okay the two started. The city is the storm. Yes, yes. And then schools on camera, or schools on cameras there, but red light cameras also, at a couple of intersections. And I don't remember which. Less six and 23rd. Six and 23rd. And then there was one other one. There were 39th and Waldo. 39th and Waldo, yes. 39 and 30 because there have been so many bad acts. So we have a long list of problem red light intersections. But the idea was to start with two schools, the two red light. So I think that when it comes to the schools that made the bigger conversation, because the sheriff's already started a process of doing this, of doing this, schools of enforcement with cameras. And I think they have like a process and a contractor that they were applying with. So you guys are just gonna fund that through that or you're doing it separately. We're doing it separately, but it's because it's, they're all GPD. Zone, gotcha. Yeah. Okay. You may, if the ASO is working with the contractor because there's some companies that are out there doing that, You may inquire because it may be a quicker on-road to do that because you'd have law enforcement reviewing the traffic that has to happen, but it may be a quicker on-road because there's a provider right there. Yeah, we're going to piggyback for the red light cameras. Well, actually for both with the company that is working with Hollywood. Plantation, anything. City of plantation. And they're also working with Tallahassee, but we're reusing the plantation contract as a piggyback. Let me show you a bit. As far as the public participation, I just wanted to double check maybe, that we last much to hear. we've been the city of games building and pushing out opportunities like the long range transportation plan. Do we push it up pretty well on our emails, social media's if not I wanted to just make sure that's something that we consider that just the county has done a lot in this new world. The county is taking on a lot. And minimum, that's something I'm interested in that go back to the city, make sure that we're, as long as the city gets it, then the city does a pretty good job. And I try to make sure that's something that we will, you know, on our side. Do our part to make sure at minimum, we're helping. Since we, as an entire body, have really focused on this, that hopefully the city we can do the same week. Do our part to get it out there. So thank you, Madam Chair. Would you like to add up your decision for tonight? We advertised that we had the fire at the Regents to open house them in last week. And we forwarded to communications staff and the state to post on all the different outlets and also on our respiration website. So it should be posted. Great. Thank you. Any other comments from the board? I just very quickly before I go to public comment, I want to remind everybody that the world masters is going to be happening towards the end of this month and if you want to volunteer or know of anybody who might help with all of that, we're looking for volunteers. There's a lot of folks coming into the community. 97 countries, right? 99, I thought it was 99. 99, I don't know. That could do 97. But anyway, it's a lot, you know. So in the video, you all are linguist or bilingual anywhere we could use some folks that way too. If you know of anybody, bring them along. All right, it's open up for public comment. Any of you. bilingual anywhere we could use some folks that way too so if you know of anybody bring them along. Alright it's open up for public comment and you have you all come right on and introduce yourself. Everybody I need to talk to them. There should be a sign in she too so everybody else too. That's right here. Anybody have a sign that just so we have our curtains. Before you go. Yes, sir. It makes up at home. You can go home. Yeah, right here, everybody else too. It's right here. Anybody have a sign that just so we have our curtain? Before you go. Yes, sir. It makes up a couple of mics. It's OK. Sorry. Thank you. My name is Robert Thompson. I'm the new city manager in Hawthorne. I met some of you already. I was asked to come here at the last minute. I apologize for the golf shirt, but you know where my mind West. Welcome forward. Thank you. The urgency associated with 301 corridor north and southbound is, in my opinion, of an urgency. A study was done August 25, 2023. There are 18,050 vehicles that were coming through there in one day, between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m. It's like playing a game of chicken with 18 bullets that are loaded with 85,000 pounds. We have kids coming across that road. I understand the youth program and how they fund it from MTL. I've been on these boards before and other municipalities. But the urgency is there. Something has to occur in a timely manner, because I don't have a defense for someone's child getting hit. Okay? That's the seriousness associated with what's going on in Hawthorne. I understand the big city. I'm from Washington, D.C. I understand the inner cities how things work. But I'm here for a plea with respect to something has to be done. I understand the flow of traffic. I understand FDOT how you all things. I was a city manager in the Phoenix Springs. So I understand modus and all these things and how things work. But the picture, the true picture day and a day out is yes, the 18 was R running the red light at 20 and 301 at full speed. And to their defense, the timing is just the lights quick. And I've seen accidents there so many times. I met with a young lady, Alice, over here. There's a crosswalk there. I have a 13-year-old daughter. I wouldn't let her walk on 3-1 anywhere. I have a 24-year-old son. I wouldn't let him drive on three or one anywhere. It is that dangerous. I drive a 21 F 250. It's the only reason I'm on that road is because I'm a safe position. It is that bad ladies and gentlemen. Okay. Again, I applaud y'all. I mean, I appreciate what you all are doing. I really do. Just trying to bring some attention to what's going on there. That's just one day 18,000 and of the 18,000 17,100 are actually going through they're not even turning those are just vehicles going through and majority are 18 Willers and what was the date of that study August 25th 2023 it was a Friday I have a documented over the ESM So again, I've only been in city manager for I'm nothing to have, but I inherited it and I again. Anything I can do to help petition, promote phone calls, whatever, I need it because I don't have a defense with respect to someone's child. Okay, thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Thank you. Welcome to a lots of camp. Thank you. Anyone else? I recognize you come right on. Welcome. Thank you. My name is Paul Moore. I live in the South Point development, which is out off of Newbury Road between just this side of Parker. Last week at the County Commission, the commission was reviewing a development plan for the developer of South Point phase. And many comments from the residents in South Point, we've all been around the safety issues of trying to leave South Point on the only road access that we have on a newberry road and that how dangerous it has become not only because of just the heavy traffic flow and which is getting heavier all the time but also because of the constant increasing speed of the cars that are out there. And we can't forget just a few months ago, just before Christmas, where three people were killed, opposite the rock church, in a very nasty accident. I think it was primarily caused by a speeding motorcycleist hitting a van and killing the two people inside and killing himself. And that's just it's a routine everyday occurrence on New Berry Road between 98th and Parker. The speed is, well I'm going, the speed limit's 50. If I'm going 55, I'm passed all the time. I'm trying to go to and from. When I try to leave South Point, come east, I pull into the right hand lane leaving South Point because I know I can never turn left. I go and try to make a U-turn. Sometimes I have to go to Parker Road and turn into the temporary entrance to exit there, try to catch the light. It's a nightmare. And I would just want to call everybody's attention to the fact that I think the last traffic study was done several years ago. And I think this traffic study was done in the worst possible week of the year. It was the week of July 4th. Everybody's out of town, there's no school traffic, so the traffic count had to be very, very small as compared to normal everyday traffic. So I'm just, I would hope that there would be something that could be done to calm the speed, and I know there's nothing that can be done right now about the, just the volume of traffic with everybody trying to go east and west out there. Rush hours traffic will back up to the South Point entrance. And across the street from South Point is that development where all these is under construction, O2B kids is under construction. There's a Chevron gas station that's going to be constructed. There's 300 apartments that are there. All the development down Parker Road, all the development that's out west along Newberry. It's not going to get any better. So I just I don't know what the answer is. We have our FDOT person who is the expert on this sort of thing. I'm sure it can come up with some. So he can fix it. I would hope that there's something that could be done to calm that traffic and calm the speed that's out there. Because it's like going out to gear nationals. Yeah, I will say I don't know when the last speed study was done on that road, but I think it's urbanized quite a bit in a pretty short period of time. And as you get further out on that road, the speed limit's increased to 55 and 60. You know, they get really fast because it's sort of this like highway speeds and rural areas. But it's really urbanized a lot. So it made the food the district, yeah, the department to look at the speeds along that corridor. Yeah. And if I could add, at that meeting, it was the approval of the final phase of South Point. And apparently DOT has permitted already that that entrance, the county is going to be extending Parker Road from Newberry Road north to 17th, 17th. And I think part of our motion that night, I think Alison, you're there, is to ask the OT to look at what if anything we can do to calm or slow from an engineering perspective, some sort traffic from 98 to 120 seconds. We have all those new developments coming online too. There are under construction that just are going to add to the flow. So it's just anything that could be done would be helpful. And we're helping, we're fortunate that we are going to get that second entrance and exit from in the South Point, which will allow us to get out into Parkour Road and be able to use the light at Parkour and Newbury to be able to come east. Yeah, so Paul speaks for about 300 residents of South Point. So thanks for being here today. Well thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Anyone else from the public? All right. Well, thank you. That was a good meeting. That was a lot of meeting. Yeah, it was a good thing. All, well, this meeting is adjourned.