Good evening and welcome to a regular meeting of the VocoRetone City Council. It is Tuesday, April 22nd, 2025. The time is 6 p.m. Our first item of business is the invocation and I'll ask Deputy Mayor Nacklas to deliver it, please. Thank you, Mayor Singer. This evening, let us give thanks for all who have gathered here with us and watching online. Grant us the wisdom to govern amid the conflicting interests and issues we're presented with today. May we always have a sense of the welfare and true needs of our residents and confidence in what is good and true. Bless us with the ability to work together in harmony even when there's honest disagreement. And may all of us here speak out when it's time to speak out and listen patiently and receptively when it's time to listen. Let us always be thankful for all who protect our city, state, and nation, and may we always be guided by the spirit of community, by the spirit of justice, and by the honor of serving our beloved city of Bochartone. Thank you. Thank you. Will everyone now please rise and join in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Ms. Inns, will you please call the roll? Mayor Singer. Here. Deputy Mayor Nackles. Here. Council Member Drucker. Here. Council Member Thompson. Thank you for being here. Council Member Wigtcher. Here. All present. Thank you, Mr. Brown. We have some of them in the agenda. Could you go over those please? Yes, thank you consent agenda item number 9. Thank you for the time. Thank you for the time. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember Wigtter. Here. All present. Thank you. Mr. Brown, I understand we have some of them in the agenda. Could you go over those please? Yes. Thank you. Consent agenda item number 9F, which is Resolution 61, 2025, will be removed from the consent agenda and heard under regular public hearings as item 12A. we were proposed to add Resolution 62, 2025 to regular public hearings as item 12b. The second resolution that I mentioned is to continue the existence of the city's community redevelopment agency into the year 2043. All right, very well. We'll entertain a motion to adopt the agenda accordingly. Do I hear a motion? So moved. Second. Thank you, motion by Wiggaert, second by operating for the discussion. discussion. All those in favor please say aye Aye and we have amended the agenda that way I can that concludes amendments the agenda will now turn to minutes and we've got the review of the minutes of the workshop Excuse me the organizational meeting of March 31st 2025 the workshop meeting of April 7th and the regular meeting of April 8 There are there any corrections or additions? Seeing none, we'll entertain a motion to rule all three sets of minutes. So moved. Second. Second. Second. Second by Drucker. Thank you, any further discussion? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And the minutes are approved. And now we're very pleased to turn to presentations and proclamations today. And first, we have a proclamation for water reuse week. So I'll invite Kara Mills, our program policy coordinator, to accept the proclamation. And after that, we'll have a proclamation for Water Conservation Month and then a presentation. for water reuse week. So I'll invite Kara Mills, our program policy coordinator to accept the proclamation. And after that we'll have a proclamation for water conservation month and then a presentation for our drop saver poster contest awards. And I will join Ms. Mills. I will do photos for the proclamations and I'll do photos individually with the winners and then we'll invite all the council members to do one big photo with all sets of winners. So I'll join you at the lectern while Ms. Liddon's reads the proclamation. Whereas safe, clean, and sustainable water resources are essential to Florida's environment, economy, citizens, and visitors. And whereas Florida has established the encouragement and promotion of water reuse as data objectives in chapters 373 and 403 Florida statutes. And whereas Florida's permitted reuse capacity is more than 1.7 billion gallons per day, or approximately 67% of Florida's total permitted capacity for all domestic wastewater treatment facilities. And whereas, WaterReuse Florida, the state section of the WaterReuse Association, has proclaimed the week of May 19th through 25th, 2025, as Florida WaterReuse week. And whereas the city of Boca Raton has joined the Water Reuse Florida, the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, and the South Florida Water Management District in encouraging and promoting water reuse and conservation. Now therefore, I, Scott Singer, Mayor of the City of Boca Raton, Florida, do hereby proclaim the week of May 18 through May 23rd, 2025 as Water Reuse Week in Boca Raton and encourage residents and businesses to help save our precious water resources by effectively using reclaimed water. Whereas water is a basic and essential need of every living creature and whereas the state of Florida, water management districts and the city of Boca Raton are working together to increase awareness about the importance of water conservation. And whereas the city of Boca Raton and the state of Florida have designated April, typically a dry month when water demands are most acute, as water conservation months to educate residents about how they can help save Florida precious water resources. And whereas the city of Boca Raton has always encouraged and supported water conservation through various educational programs and special events. And whereas the City of Booker-Eightone has always encouraged and supported water conservation through various educational programs and special events. And whereas every business, industry, school, and resident can make a difference when it comes to conserving water and by saving water and thus promote the healthy economy and community. Now therefore I, Scott Singer, Mayor of the City of Booker-Eightone, Florida, proclaim April 2025 as Water Conservation Month in Boca Raton. And call upon each resident and business to help protect our precious resource by practicing water saving measures and becoming more aware of the need to save water. Good evening, Mayor, City Council members, esteemed staff and guests. On behalf of Utility Services, I want to express our gratitude to the Mayor and City Council for these proclamations recognizing our vital importance of water conservation. Our commit, especially today on Earth Day, our commitment shines through our innovative sustainable infrastructure program, also known as ISIP, in our outreach efforts. We're last year we engage over 14,000 people through our plant tours, special events, and our drop savers program. Thank you. Thank you, and we're gonna pose for a couple photos. We'll stand this way, I guess. Thank you. Okay. And then, let me. Okay. Now Ms. Mills will now introduce all of our winners and we're very happy for all the participants and want to congratulate the winners. So please Ms. Mills. So let's now dive into the Drop Savers program. And partnership with the Florida Section of the American Water Works Association, the city of Boca proudly hosts the annual Drop Savers Proser contest. This fun contest invites students from all schools, private and public, kindergarten through fifth grade to create posters promoting water conservation at home. This year we received over 700 amazing entries. A panel of judges from utility services evaluated each entry based on its conservation message, creativity and originality. I'm excited to introduce the winners from each division. Mayor please join me in presenting them with their trophies which they actually have already but because they're very delicate when I keep them in the bag and asking them to talk about their fantastic posters. Lastly, a huge thank you to the dedicated teachers who inspire these students each and every day. We have Ms. Friedman from St. Johnavark, Ms. Mangle from Verde K through 8th and Ms. West from 80 Henderson. So let's celebrate our future conservation. So our first winner in the grades K through 1st category is Stella Striber. She's from St. Joan of Arc in 1st grade. In addition to winning Archanda, she actually won 2nd in the statewide competition. So let's give her a round of applause for her. Thank you. Thank you. We'll see you. Are there any. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So would you like to tell everyone about your beautiful poster? Anything you like to say, it's OK. I think it says wash your pet in dry grass, so your grass gets water too. Sella's more fun. All right, moving your position for yourself. We're just very proud of you. And congratulations on getting second in the state. I'm going to go back to you. You want to come up? But let's keep it to the table, please. We'll take photos for you. Just don't leave it on your poster. Very good. Thank you. Our next winner who was in the second and third grade category was Marcel Moloinski. He's from Verdi K through eighth and he's in third grade. Marcel, if you'd like to come on up. Thank you Marcel. You have a lot of great ideas on your poster. Would you like to tell us about them? Four sides. The first one is turn on washing machine when it's full. The second one is turn off faucet when you brush your teeth. And third, collect rainwater to water your plants. And fourth, clean your pets outside to water your lawn too. All great ideas. So well, thank you for sharing those and can we get My sales family up here. We'll take a picture as well Thank you. Okay, last but not least, in the grade 4 through 5th category, our winner was Celeste Rico from 80 Henderson School FAU. In addition, Celeste also won third in the statewide competition in her division. So congratulations. So, Celeste, you're the beautiful poster. I love the coloring here. I want to show you I I should show all the council members all three. But if you'd like to tell us about your poster, please. I was inspired by my art teacher because I took some inspiration from her and I did a good thing and bad things aside for what you should do and what you shouldn't do. Yes, and what are some of the things you should do? You should take short, fast, and turn off the water when you're brushing your teeth, and you should check it for leaks. All great advice, so thank you. Congratulations. We'll take a family up here. We'll take a group photo. Applause. Oh, come on up. What? Keep on moving up. Oh, wait for me. What? You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see. You can see.. All right. You're going to get up for the group photo. Thank you. Since we, if you'll hold on, we'll get all the families together and all the winners and we're going to invite the council to come on down please. If you don't mind. And I'm going to get this back to you since I don't have one for every council member so well maybe All right Gara Would you like to lay of honor because yes all the council members don't have one yes it does teachers teachers I'm going to go back. All right. Thank you. All right, that concludes our presentations and proclamations and we'll wait a minute if families want to go home, kids have to get dinner and study and all the rest. But congratulations again and thank you for participating and thanks to all the 700 plus students and all the teachers who help support this contest and spread the most important idea of water conservation, especially on this earth day. We have no board appointments today and we have no responses to workshop information requests so we'll turn to the consent agenda with any council member wish to remove any consent agenda item. And I actually would like to remove item 9, B is in boy. So we'll take that up at the end of the consent agenda. Any other removals? All right, seeing none, would any member of the public wish to comment on the consent agenda? Less item 9b and less item 9f, Mr. Ongian. Jonathan Angi and 6501 Congress Avenue. So I'm here speaking on item 9E and the execution of an agreement with Palm Beach County for the purposes of funding mobility on demand service connecting the Boca Raton Tri-Roll Station. for the purposes of funding mobility on demand service, connecting the Boca Raton Tri-Rail Station, that basically the city is gonna get money from FDOT, from the county, and give you their own money towards the last mile, which I have to imagine is the transit. I don't know the transit numbers from what I've heard. I've been told, have you seen them? I I'm gonna tell you as somebody who's owned an office building that's got 300 people working in it any given day. Or so that I've got one person in my building that rides a transit. She goes to the, takes that, has to walk out in our lovely summer days, whether they be 95 degrees or pouring rain, after she's done work to catch her bus, to go to the trial row. You have the circuit that you've instilled in the downtown. You've got a lot of money going towards this transit bus that hardly anybody uses because it makes people walk out to the street in our lovely climate and wait for it. So if it's mobility on demand, which is a service similar to circuit, I've got to imagine, on demand that's like ordering an Uber that can have Your constituency and the people of this city whether it be in residential areas around here or in the office buildings trying to get to the Trierail Why not have service that's the best service for them? So why does this city continue to throw good money after bad at this bus that is not good for the environment, for those green people? I see shaking their head up there, like the greenest people here. Okay, that care about the environment, that care about all the electric vehicles, which I by the way drove in my Tesla here today. So I am a believer in the climate change, you know, in the way that electric can work. But the reality is, why not have electric circuit cars picking people up instead of waiting for a bus that's driving around all day with nobody on it? Seems to be pretty pointless, bad for the environment, and not the best service for the constituency. So I hope that you consider where this funding on 9E will go. Because I don't think the city should continue to throw money at this transit program, which these developments around here have to do as well, and can consider a better use, which is expanding circuit to this part of town. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to comment on any consent agenda items? All right, we'll close the time for public comment on the consent agenda. Mr. Brown, I do believe you have some stats, which I was just about to send to Mr. Ongin, but you need to share now, please. Yeah, just for the record, we're talking about the Northwest Shuttle. In fiscal year 2020, we had 46,599 riders. In 21, 22,973, 22,38,215. 2023, 53,442 total riders in fiscal year 2024, 85,371 riders, and this year thus far, 45,087 riders. So the shuttle is actually being used quite significantly. This proposal, the resolution 60 2025, is a last mile service that supplements that service. Great. Thank you. All right, thank you. Any discussion among council members? If not, we'll have to hand a motion to we could have discussion after a motion to approve the consent agenda without items 9B and 9F. So moved. Second. Thank you, any further discussion? And Ms. Siddins, please call the roll. Drucker. Yes. Naclas. Yes. Thompson. Yes. Waketer. Yes. Singer. Yes. Motion passes five votes to zero. Thank you. We'll not take up item 9B. Could you please read the title? Resolution number 57, 2025. A resolution of the city of Boca Raton authorizing the city manager and city clerk to execute an economic development grant agreement with Hispanic entrepreneur initiative. Providing for severability, providing for appeal, providing an effective date. Thank you, Mr. Brown. Thank you, Mayor. I'll ask Mr. Lucastic to basically review the resolution and answer any questions. Thank you. Mr. Lucastic. Okay. So this is a action to support the Hispanic Entrepreneur Initiative. It's the first time that we've provided economic development funding to the group. In the past two years, excuse me, past three years, we've provided nonprofit funding to them, and they amounted to 2000. This year we're proposing to provide them with some funding to the amount of $8,000, including the nonprofit, or excuse me, in addition to the nonprofit, and then $10,000 for the two subsequent years. The purpose of this funding is to incorporate yet another business development group into our ecosystem. So as you know, we have a couple of partners that we work with. The HEI has been a part of that orbit, so to speak. But they're now starting to grow their programs and are looking for some funding to help expand and improve their service delivery. So this is an opportunity, a three year opportunity to see how they function going forward, kind of test what they do after three years, take a look at how they performed and make a determination as to whether or not we want to continue to fund this particular group. So that's it at a high level, happy add, answer any questions. Thank you, Mr. LeCassek. You and I discuss this on Friday. What key performance indicators or other metrics do we have going into the program to where we're expecting it to be a success? Put another way, what are we asking of them now to show? What are our theses on the number of jobs created or other metrics? Okay. don't have targeted metrics for them. So what we're asking them to provide as part of each module that they have is a survey result. So it'll not only be survey results on the quality of the program itself, but also follow up information about the businesses, what they've accomplished, how they've used the skills, and the resources that they've gained from the program. Just so we have an understanding of how it's functioning, and are we seeing any benefit from those folks who have actually participated? Haven't targeted any job numbers, haven't targeted any income revenue numbers, or anything of that nature. This is really just the first shot at taking a look at what they can do and having understanding of what kind of impact they have. And that was really my question. The reason I wanted to pull this, I have concerns with the lack of indicators going in. This is a phenomenal group. I've been proud to work with them, proud to present proclamations with them, proud to support their nonprofit funding. But if we're going to do this, and I think this, and just other economic development efforts going in, I think we need better milestones and KPIs to know what we're shooting for at the outset. They might not be hit, but at least we know what we're shooting for. So for those reasons, I'm reluctant to support this today. If we do so, it's all fine, but I would ask staff in the future if we're going to pre-proposing things for economic development that we should have those metrics at the outset. Mr. Rucker. So, I mean, I have no issues in having metrics for measurements, but I guess the question is, it poses a bigger question. With other grants that we provide for like FAU research park, do we have metrics in place for those? Grants that we award, we have a lot of other business partners that we're trying to economically have them as drivers. Do they report back to the council? Because we sit here every year and we approve actually much larger amounts of money in the hundreds of thousands. So also, festival of the arts, I know they have metrics that they come and they present and they give us information on how they did and how they didn't. So, do we do that with all the other participants that we provide grants to? So similar to this particular scenario, we ask them for data and for feedback. So it's not necessarily designed like this, but we haven't developed KPIs for them to respond to or target. They'll give us their performance over the course of the year, and then we have an understanding of how they've been performing. Then at the end of three years, and generally our contracts are three years, we'll re-evaluate to determine how we're going to move forward with them. So, again, I believe that we should have a metrics while we're tracking things like that, But I also do not want to discount the work that Haye has been doing. Obviously, I was the only Hispanic on this council. I'm very supportive of their efforts. I have participated a lot of their event, and I have seen the growth of what they're doing in our community and throughout other parts of the community, not only here in Boca Raton, with helping the Hispanic community and the small business community. So, with not knowing what impact this would have to them and how they accounted for this, I am more inclined to support the effort and hopefully they could come back in a year or even six months and we could take a pulse as to what they're doing. I guess moving forward, the message is if we're going to help people, we should have metrics ahead of time. It's very hard to sit here and say we're not going to prove this money. I'm not sure what they budget it for their year. I know what kind of programming they do because, as I said, I participate in a lot of their programming just like you may or singer. But maybe economic development has to do a better job of putting metrics before we award monies. And the grand scheme of things, it's not like other grants that we supply that are three, four hundred thousand is a much smaller grant. So without knowing how they're going to use this grant, I will absolutely support this, but I would like to see some metrics in the very near future. Thank you. Thank you. Is that close? Thank you. I just had a question, Mr. Lucasic. Was there information that you asked Hay to provide that they did not provide or any performance measures that you asked them to help out with that was not provided by them? Anything at all that was asked of them that they did not? No, this really was, again, this really was the opportunity just to develop a mechanism so we can gather some data so we can evaluate what the performance was over the course of the three years. But I hear loud and clear that there's some interest in metrics, so we'll start thinking about that as well. Thank you. Mr. Wigger. Yes, thank you. So you might have to refresh my recollection. Does the agreement state what they're going to use the money for? Yes, they have an entrepreneur roundtable that they conduct. So that's essentially 10 sessions and they have a diverse menu of resources and services that they provide to the small businesses and entrepreneurs. And it's a three year agreement. Is there a right to terminate after the first year at any time if the parties aren't happy? I believe that we do have a language, but let me confirm. Yes. Okay. Did you find out? Thank you. Okay, I think as Mr. Rucker said, it's a small amount of money. If there's 10 sessions of economic roundtable, and this could lead to some economic development, if it leads to one event, or obviously could pay for itself quite quickly, quite quickly, or one job. So I'm inclined to support it. I don't know. All right. Any further discussion on the days? Well, a bit of the public hearing, anyone wishing to speak? Last call. We'll close the public hearing. We'll entertain a motion to adopt resolution 57 2025. So moved. Second. Thank you, many further discussion. Thank you for hearing our concerns, Mr. Locastic. Missedance. Wickeder? Yes. Thompson? Yes. Singer. No. Naclas. Yes. Dr. Rucker. Yes. Motion passes. Four votes to one. Very well. We will now take up resolution nine. Oh no, excuse me. We will not. Nine F has been moved off this item to item 12A. So that concludes the consent agenda because nine F will be heard at 12A. We will now turn to resolutions in other business. And the first item is our government campus partnership opportunity for us to turn to staff. Mr. Brown. Thank you, Mayor. We provided an update yesterday afternoon. and other business and the first item is our government campus partnership opportunity for us to turn to staff. Mr. Brown. Thank you, Mayor. We provided an update yesterday afternoon on recent activities and occurrences. Nothing much has occurred since yesterday other than a regular weekly meeting with CBRA. I don't have anything additional to report to see. All right. Thank you. Council members. Any comments? Actually one and And we'll put it out there. I only got data right beforehand. On. members, any comments? Actually one, and we've put it out there. I only got data right beforehand. On the open house we're planning for this coming week, I believe it's been set up now for a maximum of 100 people with a tabletop exercise. Is that right? That's correct. All right. I had the chance to speak with, I understand we've already received nearly 100 respondents, residents respond already. And I've also had a chance to talk with our partners, Tara Frisbee. I'm going to suggest something else that would open it up to more people, rather than the tabletop of 10 separate tables trying to draw something out from scratch, perhaps. We have Tara Frisbee do an enhanced version of what they did the first time. Now that the plans have been heard, they go out, they present, they have Q&A, and they have opportunities for people to mark up the boards in that style of Sharet. I think it would serve two purposes. One, it'll get more people than the 100, which is a small limitation. And two, I think it will actually yield a better result for two reasons. One, we'll be able to talk about the plans that have been refined in response to public input, in response to our direction, in response to painstaking efforts, and not necessarily start from scratch with new ideas. And second, I think it will also focus the conversation more. The last time we did this, the CAP had just 100 people coming in and you had a large number of people talking about escape park, which we already decided we're already behind relocating North Park. And they also said they did not want to see affordable housing, which is something that councils already given direction on. So I think if we're able to take away maybe not have us limited to 10 tables, open it up to more people. I think we'll get a better result and more resident participation. Mr. Rucker. Thank you, Mr. Mayor Singer. Yes, this was proposed to us a few weeks ago. I brought up the, I said that it was going to be too little. Like we're going to have 100 people and we're going to have several shareds. And I believe Mr. Lucas, that at that point, if you can remind me, you said we were going to have multiples, because I have already received feedback that people can't get in. So how do we get into the day? And then I didn't know if it was going to be televised. There was like all these questions that 100 is too small of a pool for 100,000 residents. That's 1%, less than 1%. So I had that same concern a few weeks ago, and they said, well, we're going to put this charat, and then we're going to have more charat to come. And different parts of the city. So I'm not sure why just that amount of, I would agree with you. I think that we need to make it open. And then I didn't understand like why are we so focusing on just topics for the 10 people when we've already seen the conceptual plan. And we've already opened this a few weeks ago when we had the other session. So yeah, I was a little confused a couple weeks ago, and I'm still I still am. For the comments, Ms. McClust. The, the, and I'm on the same page generally with you, but one of the comments that I heard from feedback after the last, the last event was a lot of people expected some kind of a presentation, even if it's a short one where they're addressing everyone and then can break out into the different areas or whatever. But everybody kept asking, is there going to be a presentation? Is there going to be a presentation? And no, there wasn't. It was just kind of a lot of information. People were trying to get to all the different areas. So I think maybe if they did some kind of a seven to ten minute presentation and then they broke out into the different areas, but I agree 100 people's too little. Like even my family was trying to sign on last night to get their spot too, but I don't know whether they got chosen or not. And I neglected to mention, I said I spoke with her and I spoke with Frisbee today and my understanding is that they were ready to give a presentation up to 30 minutes and then have a Q&A. So I think that might accommodate that concern and hopefully gives plenty of time for the feedback. But I think setting the stage first, rather than breaking off into small many tables, when people haven't seen the new plans that have been revised in response to resident feedback, is not as productive as what I'm suggesting. So I wanted to see if we're all in board with them and then we can tailor this and hopefully open it up to more of a residence for the thoughts. So that's on like a plan. Oh, Mr. Wager, please. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, obviously the studio I think has 290 seats or 287, something like that, so why not fill it up? Absolutely. Let them do a presentation on how the project has changed, how they're responding to public feedback, absolutely. And then they could be breakout sessions where people have specific concerns about specific items, you know, or specific locations within the plan. I think it's a better idea. All right, so I think we're on board with that. Ms. Drucker, please. Mayor Singer, so we're still going on with Monday, just the people that got in and that What where where's the conclusion? I'm still are you saying we're still having the hundred Oh Now it's over for more people. I don't know what we've done I don't have we I don't know if we told any I don't know if we've told anyone yet whether they're in or not But I just knew that we're already getting close or at that limit thought let's open it up to more now so that way we can accommodate more people at the end. So we haven't let those who have registered know that they're in or not. So if we want to make a pivot, we can certainly do that. I mean, even sorry. Please. Thanks. Even 287 people, if we wanted to really have like input, you should put it on the amphitheater and put a TV and put the 30 minutes and have everybody come and watch and then they could provide their feedback, however we do that. So I still think 287 people is very little compared to the amount of people. I mean, why not make it like an event where like, if everybody has said we haven't heard about this project. We hear that every day. We haven't heard about it. We haven't seen it. We haven't talked about it. Maybe we go ahead with the session on Monday, but maybe we do something even bolder, which is open it up on the amphitheater. This is a presentation. This is what we're doing in government center and not for feedback, but here we are. This is what we're doing with our downtown. I mean mean that would capture a lot more people and then it would also, you know, Communicate that we have done as much as we can to put the word out there. If I may make a suggestion in response to your good suggestion, Ms. Drucker, If we open it up to I don't we've already advertised it for the location. So I think that we should do that. You had mentioned that we were planning on doing others. I'd say let's see if we open it up, we've already advertised it for the location. So I think we should do that. You had mentioned that we were planning on doing others. I'd say, let's see, if we open it up beyond the hunt bridge, let's see where we go. We may not get to it in 87. We often, having done a lot of town halls and even state of the city, we sometimes overestimate the number of people who come. We sometimes underestimate. Let's see what happens this Monday and then we can pivot, but I appreciate staffs willingness to pivot and Get them for more people and they're and focus on the plans that are there because they've been, people should see the feedback that they've already provided. Do we know how many people pre-registered? We're at about 100 already. 100 people have pre-registered. Yes. But there's no wait list per se. Well, not now. Yeah. Okay, bye. All right. 100 people have pre-registered. Yes. But there's no wait list per se. Well, not now. Yeah. OK. All right. Well, we'll organize ourselves to make sure that we can open it up to other people. I hear you and I understand what you're looking for. So we'll change. I think my follow up is, are we going to be able to re-advertise to make sure that people get in and also give opportunity to new people to participate. Yes. Correct? Yes. Yes. I'm here. follow-up is are we going to be able to re-advertise to make sure that people get in and also give opportunity to new people to participate? Yes. Because, correct? Yes. I'm here. You're a guest from here. We will do that. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Yeah. I don't think we haven't closed the website yet, have we? So, it's still, I think it's still open. open so it's still sad as quote so good we can pivot we'll make that work good nimble is good all right we'll open up the floor to public comment anyone wishing to comment on the still status quo. So good. We can pivot. We'll make that work. Good. Nimble is good. All right. We'll open up the floor to public comment. Anyone wishing to comment on the downtown partnership opportunity? If you do, please rise, Ms. Warrow and come to the day us. I got your card, but I thought that might be under public comment. But now, no, now's the fine time. You can do it now. Hello, my name is Judy Moro, 1305 Northeast Fifth Avenue. And today, when I went to City Hall, I saw the coastal star, and the coastal star has a beautiful article about the government redevelopment plan and about the tennis, and it even mentions my petitions. So it says in the article I have 250 petitions, I actually turned in last month 404 petitions of people that care about tennis and want tennis downtown. It's a beautiful article and it's very, very interesting. A lot of facts and detail from Mary, the lady that comes here all the time. Okay, And then the second thing, my main and most important thing today is that when it comes to patch reef, the CSR company is giving the city bids for hard courts and for clay courts to resurface the courts that are there. Please for our temporary courts, please resurface patch reef with clay courts. So your vote is gonna determine whether that happens. And I tennis players would greatly appreciate it. And there's a lot of tennis players. OK. In the United States, one out of 13 people have played tennis the year that every year that they do the survey. It's up to one out of 13 have played tennis sometime that year and so that's very important to know and if we're going to have more development and more people we need more tennis courts. Okay in Del Rey the open the men open there, they had 67,000 people attend last year, 2024. I couldn't get the numbers for this year. The Miami open had 400,000 people attend to watch tennis. Tennis is super, super popular and growing a lot. In the city of Boca, we have 17% of the children are under 18. And we should increase some kind of city program like Inky Fisher, who started Boca Raton inennis Center used to have 100 people come on Saturday and she was very good at keeping them all busy and providing a very good service of teaching tennis and making it better at a low cost. And in Boca we also have 25% of the population is over 65. And I'm in that population of the 25%. One out of four people, you know, are over 65. Could you please conclude? What? Could you please conclude? Okay, and to conclude, in Orlando, Florida, and I've taken the bright line with my grandson to Orlando. They have 98 tennis courts in one place. It's called the USDA Nationals and tennis is very, very popular. And a couple people mark plays. Fran, she's the iron woman. We wanted to start playing. Thank you. Ms. Moral, I actually just have a question before you go. I have a question for staff. Ms. Moral said she turned in petitions. Have we received what she's turned in? Yes. They were provided to the Recreation Services Director. Great. Terrific. Thank you. 404. All right, thank you. All right. Anyone else wishing to comment on the downtown campus? Mr. Ongian Yeah, but why is it coming on the microphone Jonathan on Giants 6501 Congress Avenue, so I'm gonna get my tidbit out now because I got to go home to a six-month-old So I'm going to get my tidbit out now, because I've got to go home to a six month old. But again, units per acre. So not all of this is in the downtown. What is the number of units that are going on this acreage? Would love to know that. Seems like the numbers keep changing keep changing the plan keeps changing which you guys picked a partner based on a plan Yet the plan seems to be pretty fluid Just to do the math last time I checked a hundred people out of a hundred thousand is not 1% it's one tenth of 1% so tiny tiny fraction of it also I Basically live in this part of town 85,000 people riding this shuttle How's that getting compiled? 45,000 already at this year Do, do you let me know how I can do it? I'll get John down. How do we do a traffic study on that number? Because I'm gonna call that being completely fabricated and erroneous. And I live it, you can shake your head some more. But because of the shaking of the head, I'm gonna come back with a nice presentation. I promise you the next hearing with a senator on the Senate floor, um, scolding this city for the live local act and the D. D. R. I. The deputy city attorneys well aware of it. A number of the council members have heard this senator on the house floor discussing how disappointing it is that you have got champions of affordable housing. Champions of affordable housing, yet they do everything possible to make sure that affordable housing doesn't happen. In a part of town that does want more units per acre, not just keep saturating the downtown. I hate to use the R word, but it would be interesting to see what the taxpayers like in the form of maybe a, you know, they didn't like Houston's maybe like a referendum because we completely oversaturate the downtown. Every time everybody comes here, they hate the number of units that are going in the downtown. They hate that their view is getting blocked. They hate the traffic on Paul Meadow. But this part of town just continues to be overlooked. The park that's right next to the Tri-Rale, the park that's right next to 295 locations. You'll leave here, you guys left here last night and ladies, excuse me, left here at rush hour at 5 o'clock, 530. How was the rush hour? So let's talk about that. Let's make a change and a difference. I hope that I hear a presentation or a discussion. Thank you. The piece cool I'm done. Thank you. Thank you. That is a new thing with our timer. I didn't hit it. So can we reset it please? Thank you. If that's a problem, we'll just have to count from four and I'll stop people at one. So it doesn go off But that's new for her. All right anyone else wishing to comment on the partnership opportunity All right, we will conclude that item will now turn to quasi-judicial and related public hearings and we have public hearings on items a 1 and a 2 They will be combined because the items are interrelated interrelated a separate vote will be taken on each item The items are both because the two items are quasi-judicial, the city's quasi-judicial procedures will be applied to the combined discussion. And if item A1 is not approved, we will not take up item A2. Ms. Siddins, would you please read the title Resolution 55 and 56-2025. Resolution number 55, 2025. A resolution of the city of Boca Raton considering for the Boca Raton Christian School and approximately 19.84 acre property generally located at 470 Northwest Fourth Avenue. One, an amended and restated conditional use approval consolidating city council resolution numbers 30977, 1979, 9780, 5293, 8295, and 932008. And two, a conditional use of amendment to increase the student enrollment from 800 students to 950 students in the single family residential, R1D, and multi-family residential, R3 and R4 zoning districts, providing for a peeler, providing an effective date. Resolution 56, 2025. A resolution of the city of Boca Raton considering for the Boca Raton Christian School and approximately 19.84 acre property generally located at 470 Northwest 4th Avenue. Five technical deviations from section 23-192D code of ordinances as follows. One for an existing driveway on northwest 4th Avenue to reduce the required driveway reservoir distance from 100 feet to 25 feet. Two for an existing driveway on Crawford Boulevard to reduce in the required driveway reservoir distance from 100 feet to 15 feet, eliminate a required four foot wide median separator, and to reduce the required number of egress lanes from 2 to 1, and 3 for an existing driveway on northwest 7th Street to reduce the required driveway reservoir distance from 100 feet to 40 feet, providing for a peeler, providing an effective date. Thank you. We'll now ask the City attorney to review the quasi-digital procedures that will govern today's public hearing. Thank you, Mayor, council members. The quasi-digital items this evening are governed by the city council's rules, including the rule that states that each applicant requesting approval will relieve for other action from the council. Shout-out to close at the commencement. We hearing any consideration or payment provided or committed directly. On its behalf for an agreement to support with hold objection to the requested relief for action tonight. Copy of the quasi-additional procedures governing this proceeding is attached to the agenda and a copy can be obtained from the city clerk. Thank you. At this point we'll ask council members if they have any exparte communications. They wish to disclose. I'll start on my love with Mr. Thompson. Thank you mayor. I spoke about this matter with Cameron free. He's the executive pastor at Booker Tone Community Church. I spoke with Matthew McDaniel who's the senior pastor at Booker Tone Community Church. I spoke with Bill Mitchell, the former senior pastor. I spoke with Len Visser, the head of school there, and I had brief conversations with Al Travasos and Rick Zimmer regarding the merits of the project, and I believe that's it. Thank you, Ms. Aclus. No, I'm sorry. Thank you. with Len Visser, the head of school there, and I had brief conversations with Al Travasos and Rick Zimmer regarding the merits of the project. I believe that's it. Thank you, Ms. Ankelis. No, ex-parte. Thank you, Ms. Walker. I received a call from New Nugent. I believe he's the pastor of Bogor Ritton Christian. School maybe not, because he had a question. So I'm not sure I never was able to connect with him, but just wanted to disclose that. So no other disclosure. Noted, thank you, Mr. Riger. Yes, Mr. Ulye ship the architect for the applicant. Was it... with him but just wanted to disclose that so no other disclosure noted thank you mr. Riger yes mr. Lee ship the architect for the applicant was a former customer of mine at the greenhouse offices and I am a current customer of hers for private services I had a conversation with the Palm Beach County Commission and ethics on this issue just to get clarity and because she is no longer my customer, there is no more conflict. And I spoke to her briefly about the project. Thank you, and I have no expartee communications to disclose. So at this point, we'll ask anyone who wishes to speak on this matter to please rise to the clerk and administer the oath. Please raise your right hand. Do you swear a firm that testimony may give before this public hearing a retruful and accurate? Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Brown. Thank you Mayor Jacob Gurman, planner with the development services department wife, the presentation, so in resolution 55, 25, 25, 20, 25, and 56, 20, 25. Thank you, gentlemen, and 11 a and 2. Thank you, Mr. Grimman. Good evening, Mayor and Councilmembers. My name is Jacob Grimman, plan R2 for the city, and I'll be presenting the Boehlker-Tone Christian School located at 470 Northwest 4th Ave. The applicant is requesting a conditional use of eminence to increase the student enrollment from 800 students to 950 students. Together with five technical deviations from section 2319ED code of ordinances for driveway design to not modify the existing driveways. This application does not include approval for any new buildings or other structures on the property. The Boca Raton Christian School project is located on an approximately 19.841 acre property that consists of four distinct parcels. The project is located approximately 1,100 feet north of East Palmeau Park Road and approximately 700 feet west of northwest 2nd Ave. The property is owned R3 and R4 multifamily residential and R1B single family residential and has a future land use designation of institutional and residential low. During the review of this application, staff reviewed the school's master plan and phased one site plan that was approved in 2008. The master plan included the following condition of approval where the master plan shall limit the general location, number and use of all facilities on the property. Site plan approval from the planning and zoning board shall be required for all phases of development on the property, which includes concurrency approval from Palm Beach County and a site specific traffic study acceptable to city staff. In addition to other applicable permits and approvals, each phase of development shall be required to stand on its own merit pursuant to all requirements of the city code. Staff determined that a majority of the improvements authorized under the phase one site plan were not completed, which included major additions to the recreational athletic center, ministry center, school, driveway sidewalks, et cetera. And therefore determined that the phase one site plan could not stand on its own merit pursuant to all requirements, which included the increase to student enrollment. Staff determined that since the plan was not vested due to the lack of improvements completed, the school had reverted back to the 1994 approval, including total student enrollment, therefore because the maximum of 900 students approved under phase. One site plan was not vested, the current maximum number of students is 800% to that approval. The master plan had included a phase two, which included an increase of student enrollment up to 950 students. However, while a phase two site plan for the master plan was submitted, the plan was subsequently withdrawn and not approved. Excuse me, Mr. Groom, when was that second site plan the phase two? When was that submitted and withdrawn? It was submitted in 2011 and withdrawn before public hearing. A run that time. Thank you. As I said, there are no physical improvements associated with this application and no additional parking is required due to the increase in student enrollment. All physical improvements to be completed were included as part of a recently approved minor site plan amendment, SPA 24-08A, approved administratively on December 13, 2024. The minor site plan, a amendment that was granted, was to install two modular buildings on the property. The applicant indicated that with the addition of the two modular buildings that student enrollment could increase its capacity to approximately 895, an increase of 107 students from its current capacity of 788. This conditional use would allow the applicant to make future expansions to either add or amend existing facilities without having to amend the conditional use at that time. The applicant has requested five technical deviations from Section 2319ED for three driveways located at Northwest 4th Ave, Crawford Boulevard, and Northwest 7th Street. None of these driveways are proposed to be modified with this application. However, due to the proposed increase in student enrollment, these driveway entrances do not meet current standards for major driveways. your driveways are required to have a minimum driveway reservoir distance of 100 feet, a 14 foot ingress lane, a 4 foot wide median separator, and two 12 foot wide egress lanes and a 30 foot turning radius located on a collector and or local roadways. Northwest 4th Ave is a full access major driveway during the weekday peak hours of the school and is primarily used as an exit for parents dropping off students in the morning and picking them up in the afternoon. It is limited by using traffic cones and school staff to redirect traffic. This driveway is open for two-way traffic during off peak hoursak hours. This driveway currently does not meet the driveway requirements for driveway reservoir distance, where 100 feet is required and 25 feet is provided. Crawford Boulevard is also a full access major driveway during the weekday peak hours of the school. It's primarily used as an entrance for parents dropping off students in the morning and picking them up in the afternoon. And there is no expected to be any operational conflicts between incoming and outgoing vehicles here. This driveway does not meet the requirements for driveway reservoir distance, egress lanes, and median separator. Where 100 foot reservoir distances required, a 4 foot median separator, and two 12 foot wide egress lanes. Where only a 25 foot reservoir distance is provided, no median separator is provided, and only one egress lane is provided. Northway 7th Street is a full access major driveway only on Sunday, and it is intermediate driveway during the rest of the week. This driveway does not currently meet the requirements for a major driveway where 100 feet is required and only 40 is provided. This driveway does meet all requirements for an intermediate driveway. The image above depicts the school's queuing diagram, which shows playing a space for spillover to be contained on site. The school operates with staggered pickup and drop off times, pursuant to city requirements, 52 stacking spaces for student pickup and drop off are required with 1,040 fee of queuing length. The applicant has provided 117 stacking spaces with 2,350 fee of queuing length, with two separate stacking lanes. And any spillover can be contained on site. The applicant states in their traffic study that an appropriate pavement markings traffic control devices and staffing are in place during this time for pickup and drop off. Such a condition of approval has been included in the accompanying conditional use resolution to ensure that these items continue to be in place to ensure students safety during pickup and drop-off times. During the analysis of the s application staff found that the project is consistent compatible with the city's comprehensive plan. The master plan is not vested due to lack of improvements required as a condition of approval of phase one site plan. The project will increase a student enrollment by 150 students. The school's pickup and drop-off cues can be contained within the school's property, and the church's highest peak volume only occur once a week on Sunday. The project was reviewed by the planning and zoning board on April 3rd, 2025, and was recommended approval and a vote of five to zero. The Movin Service Department recommends approval of the conditional use amendment and the technical deviations. Thank you. Thank you, Council members, any questions? Actually, one, Mr. Grimman, I'm looking at the file. I see that in 2008, a number of technical deviations similar, if not identical, to the ones that are before us today were approved. Is that, was it 100% overlap with what's before us now and what was there previously? So they did not make those improvements. So the driveways were approved in a different manner than they are existing today. So that's why the technical deviations are back. Okay, but the prior City Council had previously authorized technical deviation similar to the ones that are already here and the site has been even if not Identically is planned functioning largely with what's proposed now Brand the chat development service director. Are you are you asking if they're essentially operating in the same manner now and will be as they were in Proposing in 2008 or are you asking if the application was identical? I'm asking if the technical deviations are granted, are they gonna operate in substantially the same manner as they are today? Yes, so the student enrollment would increase from 800 to 950, the maximum. So that is significant, but not fundamentally different, they'll operate in the same manner. And if there's some kind of operational problem, we will be able to work with them to make sure they adjust their operations, but they're given the size of the site and the configuration, there's plenty of room to accommodate the necessary pickup and drop off the stairs. And part of the reduction in the reservoir links that's requested in some of these technical deviations is because those reservoirs already incorporated in the ingress, egress plan of the school as it exists now. It's because the driveway classifications are changing and therefore the reservoir distances get bigger. But these requirements don't really fit really well with the school pickup drop off situation because even with a longer reservoir distance, there are going to be parking spaces blocked as part of the pickup and drop-off line. That's just a fact of how school pickup and drop-off works. So it's not, again, it's not fundamentally different. So part of these are to allow the applicant to make reasonable use of the property given its intended purposes. I agree with that, yes. All Thank you many further questions I will open up the public hearing will first invite the applicant to come forward you hold up to 20 minutes if you need it Good evening, Mr. Mayor members of the council Bonnie, Miss. Gole 14 southeast 4th Street Bogart Florida. I'm here on behalf of the applicant. And with me this evening is the executive director, Pastor Cameron Free, who will be speaking first and will be very brief. I'm also joined by Mr. Donaldson, who has done the studies necessary for this application have gone forward. And our architect is Juliet Schiff. But this is a very unique situation. It's rare that you get a school that's been operating for 50 years to come back and ask for an approval, a use approval to operate as a school. But as Mr. Shad suggested and articulated, just like even Lynn University, there are maximum numbers that are often assigned to master plans this one while it was increased in 2008, it expired and it is lower than the number that we're asking for today. So that's substantially the major difference between why we're here and what we're looking for. We're going from 800 to 950 students. But the driveways are the same as what you see today. The ingress and the egress is the same as what you see today. There is some of the longest queuing and stacking area of any school in our city. So essentially, we're asking to continue to operate as we are today, but to allow us to go up to the 950. In any event, I'm going to turn it over to Pastor Frey, who's going to just go over the background of the school a little bit, and he'll do so very quickly. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Pastor. Good evening, Cameron Frey, 470 70 Northwest 4th Avenue. Good evening, Council. Great to see you. It is very great to be here, to be able to share this with you. Booker Tone Christian School has been a part of this community for over 50 years. It's a part of Booker Tone Community Church or Bible Town, as many know it. Booker Tone Community Church, celebrating its 75th anniversary this year. We love this community. And 52 years ago, our church decided to launch this school, Bochartone Christian School. Bochartone Christian is a nationally recognized, accredited, Christ-centered college preparatory school, serving students pre-K3 through 12th grade, that emits students of any race, color, nationality, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, the faculty, in 1978, and we've been impacting students ever since. Our goal is to impact them in the following ways, with a biblical perspective, with partnership with parents, academic excellence. We want to focus on the whole child, the whole person, socially, emotionally, intellectually, aesthetically, physically, and above all spiritually. And we want to instill in these students a second mile spirit. As we are working with these students, we understand that Bokertone is continuing to grow. We believe the demand for strong, values based academically excellent education will only increase. With your partnership, we can ensure that more families in this growing city have access to an education that develops both mind and character. We respectfully ask for your support in helping us continue and expand the mission that has benefited this community for generations. I'll now turn it over to Juliet Schiff 621 North West 53rd Street. I want to thank staff for working with us for the past year in support of our project. To increase the student enrollment from 800 to 950 students and related to the driveway design to not modify the existing driveways. The site is just under 20 acres on the east side of Northwest 4th Avenue is the Boca Raton Christian School and to the west is the Bokeh Rathom Community Church. This is a close-up that shows you that the drive aisles and the vehicular circulation is contained within the two sites. The technical deviations there are related to Crawford Boulevard, which is our ingress for both drop off and pick up. Egress on Northwest 4th Avenue and ingress egress on Northwest 7th Street. The vehicular entries, this is the main exit to the school during drop off and pick up. And you can see that there are cones and staff there directing traffic. This functions as an exit only. Crawford Boulevard, we are requesting three technical deviations. This is our ingress for both pickup and drop off. This is the entrance and exit at the church. This is used for pre-K3 through K5. And the proposed increase in students is not expected to add any new traffic at this driveway. These are the queuing diagrams. If you take a look at the one on the left, that's for drop off, the one on the right is for pickup. They both follow the same pattern. Whether you look at either the left or the right on the upper right hand side of each, you can see that the pattern of ingress from Crawford brings the cars in. There are two lanes that circulate around the school site within the property. Drop off in the morning has both zone one and zone two and egress is outside of Northwest 4th Avenue. We have the same situation in the afternoon. We do have staggered pickup and drop off times. This is the queuing diagram for the church side, which is K3 through 5, K3 through K5, and the K3 parents do have the option to park and walk the students to class. They enter on Northwest 7th Street and they egress on Northwest 6th Street unless they're parking and walking their children. I want to introduce John Donaldson now who is our traffic engineer who can talk about the queuing distance. John Onelson, 1-2773, 4-Stilbola of Ardwellington. As Julia said, we have double stacking on this, which is a blessing for this kind of site, because now you can have two lanes of traffic going in. They're going to two separate drop-off or pick-up points so we can get double stacking so we can have 52 vehicles or a thousand square thousand-linear feet of stacking. And we're still not even close to maybe halfway of the stacking that we could provide on site. So thank you. These are the criteria, which I won't go into great detail, but I will talk about. John's done the study to analyze the queuing. And as you can see, we don't even use half of the site. So there are no issues with impeding the public in any way, particularly overflow onto the streets. There are additional criteria for deviations. This particular request is unique because it is the same use, it is the same driveways. They are the same buildings. The only change is to go from 800 to 950 students and what that impact would be, which John has studied. Based on the study, it shows you that we have so much area within the site. It is a very unique site in that there is massive queuing areas so that not only will cars stay off the street and be contained within the site, but they won't even impede much of the parking that is on the site in any event. Just as I think you noted, schools are very unique to the extent that we expect cues. We expect if you're in a pickup line, that you're in a way to pick up your child. So in any event, this may be one of the few cases where we are asking for the minimum. We are asking to not change the existing driveway. We're not asking for additional or less queuing area. We are asking to remain the same as what we are today. And in all the years that they have operated, they have never had a complaint about their pick up and drop off, which is pretty remarkable because everybody complains about pick up and drop off at every school in Booker Tom. And then the event, and lastly, they do have a waiting list to get into the school. The school is such a successful school and they have such great standards and performance that students are waiting to get in. So we're hopeful that you will agree with us and approve this this evening. Thank you very much. Thank you. We'll open up the public hearing. Anyone else wishing to speak on this matter? Please come forward. I don't believe anyone else who hasn't spoken already was rose to be sworn in. So this point will ask the applicant if you want to sum up. We're good, thank you very much. and Ms. Miskel says they're good. So we will close the public hearing. We'll entertain a motion first to adopt resolution 55 2025. If you're here motion. So moved. Second. Second. I'll give it to Mr. Wigger, I think by a hair, but we're ready. Any discussion council members? All right. Then seeing none, Ms. Sidness, please. For resolution 55, 2025. NACLAS? Yes. Wigtr? Yes. Drucker? Yes. Singer? Yes. Thompson. Yes. Very good. We'll now take up a motion to adopt resolution 56, 2025, relating to the technical deviations. Do I hear a motion? So moved. Second. Thank you, any further discussion? I'll just say I believe that the criteria have been satisfied based on the evidence before us. Any further discussion? Missed and pleased. Thompson? Yes. Wait, excuse me, singer? Yes. Waiter? Yes. Drucker? Yes. NACLIS. Yes. Motion passes five votes to zero. Thank you. That concludes our quasi-judicial matter. We'll now turn to regular public hearings. The first item is 12a, which was formerly 9f, and Ms. Siddins would please read the title of resolution 61 2025 relating to the speed detection camera system. Resolution number 61 2025. A resolution of the city of Bokariton authorizing the city manager to execute an agreement with red speed Florida LLC for speed detection camera system for school zones, providing for severability, providing for a peeler, providing an effective date. Thank you. Mr. Brown. Thank you, Mayor Zach Beer. Public Works and Engineering Director will make a presentation on Resolution 61 2025, which is the agreement with Red Speed Florida for Speed Detection Camera System. Thank you, Mr. Beer. Good evening, Mayor and City Council Zach Beer, your public works and engineering director. This evening before before you on the which was up from a consent agenda as part of the legislative requirement is to approve the vendor contract with red speed and move forward with the phase one locations that was brought to you previously and with that I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you council members Mr. Beart. Thank you for getting this done quickly because we want to get it implemented. Is this considered a pilot going forward this this first phase that we're doing? Yes. So the initial phase would be considered a pilot. Okay. And as we move forward, if this is successful, will you be talking to other companies about this, or will still be evaluating what our options are as far as contracts for the rest of the school is going forward? Yeah, certainly. I think from the perspective of a contract and vendor evaluation, there's obviously revenues exchanged as part of the ongoing process to keep the, as a net to keep the process going So for this it'll be dependent upon if the vendor successful to be able to deploy the early stations Obviously there's state and county right away that they're going to have to be working in and so staff is going to evaluate at that operational ability in phase one and then depending upon how that goes it's likely the city would remain with that vendor. If they're not able to meet the city's needs and they have been, they're unsuccessful, then of course the city will evaluate all potential vendors for being able to supply that process for the city. For the questions, Mr. Thompson. Thank you, Mr. Beer. It would seem, and we're all new at the school's own speed detection process, I think, at least we up here are. It seems like there are a number of vendors who compete in the space that are qualified and experienced. How did it, including the red speed firm that was identified by staff, how did it come to be that this vendor was selected for the pilot? Certainly. So with the details of the procurement staff went through the overall operational constraint and evaluated several different contracts as well as public of publicly available information related to the cost structures of the contracts and implementation in Florida. So generally one of the components was the South Florida governmental cooperative which is an agency that does economies of scale and brings on vendors for multiple municipalities and government entities to be able to do what's called piggybacking, which is a little bit of a lame term, but allows for governments to do intergovernmental solicitations that that allows for pace, which was one of the goals of the direction staff got was to rapidly deploy the system. And so utilizing the intergovernmental solicitation that was put out by plantation through the intergovernmental cooperative, that allowed staff to utilize the resources of a procurement process that we're familiar with and was a portion of the overall matrix that staff evaluated to provide best value. Further questions? to conclude my questions for the thank you this darker. Thank you Mayor Sanger thank you mr. Bear so obviously something really really important for our community for the safety of our children public safety etc. How many companies did you meet to before we got to this particular company that we selected? I apologize. Could you ask again how many companies did you staff me with? So this is a big this is a big pilot and this is a big undertaking for our public schools and for really the safety of the people on our roads and the schools. What I want to make sure is when we enter a pilot or we enter a partner, like we've done in other times. So I'm going to use Boka Connect. Obviously that went through a formal RFP. We got a lot of people that came here and presented to this to this dius a bunch of different options. And then we turned it over to staff and then staff made what they felt was the best option. And I want to make sure that when we're entering a pilot of this magnitude, which is affecting about, I think it was like eight or seven schools to start, maybe it was five, I don't have it in front of me, that we've done our due diligence. We've received communications and emails and articles about this particular company and issues that they've had. I want us to not have those issues and I want us to implement the best pilot so that we're successful in accomplishing our goal. Obviously for me and for all of us up here, public safety has been the number one thing. I never would focus. So I just want to make sure that we're not rushing into any pilot and that we have done all of our due diligence. And that's because this came out out of pretty fast. So I'm not sure between this meeting and the ones that we had before. I mean, we just saw this basically. So I want to make sure that whatever we are doing, that it's the best pilot for the safety of our community. And if you tell me, this is the way that we want to go because they prove that they're going to be the best partner, then obviously I will support this. But I just want to make sure that as we've done with other partners that we've entertained, that we are completely doing our due diligence. Yeah, sorry, very good question. So to answer that question, I did not meet with any vendors with the exception of ultimate requested to meet with staff. We did our due diligence through data analysis and evaluating the existing contracts. So for example, Red Speed is a various established vendor in both the state of Florida and Georgia. They have over 90% of the market share in Georgia and then in the state of Florida have somewhere based on staff's research. Research 13 or more municipalities and counties which are mid to large scale municipalities and local governments whereas ultimate has just three to our understanding. We ask multiple times for contracts from various vendors and evaluated off the top of my head somewhere between four and six overall vendors. There were certain vendors that had specific characteristics that staff immediately eliminated. Those vendors had contract termination clauses in them that would have added cost to the city if there were removals of equipment and other immediate elements that were not moved forward. Down to the specific vendors that staff did a detailed look on. It is a paper exercise up until the point where they have to perform in the field. I have heard varying degrees of success. I think it also depends on the staff that's involved in the implementation. We did a deep dive on the Manatee County implementation and they had the speed limit signs at variable speed limits. They also did not, I think, communicate to the residents very well what was happening in advance. And so a lot of those things I think are lessons learned from an operational perspective, but certainly the vendor is ultimately responsible for getting the equipment deployed in the right ways, and if they're unable to do that, the city has the opportunity to terminate the contract for convenience, and certainly if the contractor is not performing to move this process forward, staff would evaluate all contractor remedies. So in short, the early stages had a very deep dive for the analysis to get to this point. If a contractor doesn't or a vendor doesn't perform, which is always a possibility, staff then utilizes the terms and the contract to be able to take appropriate action. Okay, thank you. Put the questions. I want, there is a breakdown, Mr. Beer, in the cover memo of how any fees collected are allocated among the vendor, the city, the state, the county. Is that percentage share the same across all vendors and required by statute? That is that percentage breakdown is the same. So the different amounts that go to the different entities is the same across all vendors. That is correct statement. So the thing that made different among vendors is the fixed fee. Some vendors have a fixed fee monthly contract and others have a fee particular. That is correct. Those are the two, I would say, two main differentiators out of the main vendors for their fee structures. And did you analyze, there's a natural break point when you have a fixed fee and an itemized one. Did staff do a break point analysis and then come to terms with the recommendation here, thinking that this would be for the projection a better equitable split? staff did do that intense, but as far as revenue generation, it was a safety focused approach. So that wasn't, I would say, the final determining factor. Of course, and let me make clear to you, and to everyone, this is a safety measure, not a revenue generator, but I just wanted to make sure that we were clear. Staff's recommendation obviously is focused on the primary safety driver, right? That is, it is a safety, the vendor selected is based on the safety analysis, is not a revenue based on the revenue determination. Okay. And part of this is that you, we, I mean the council identified this is a public safety opportunity and staff responded in kind, right? That is correct. It was identified as an opportunity which is very sad, but we can start the messaging right now. Don't say, if you're listening, don't speed in a school zone. Don't speed generally, but if you speed in a school zone, it's extra bad. We have children and people trying to get to school. And so as staff evaluated the information and there's been studies done, it's really sad and unfortunate. But people speed through school zones. And so there are in certain instances as in Manatee County, I think off the top of my head, I can say, I think there was something like 55,000 violations, which is both tragic and unfortunate. So I think there is a mix of, there are probably going to be some residents in the city of Boqueratone that are disappointed to get a citation, but it is also the law to drive at the appropriate speed through a school zone to not get a citation. And sorry, to note that staff's intention is to message very clearly to residents and provide variable message signs and many other ways to notify residents prior to the implementation of the school's own ticketing enforcement. Including a warning period, that is correct. And finally, just on that point, tickets will not be given if you're one mile over the speed limit, they'll be given if you're more than 10 miles over the speed limit, right? That is correct. All right, so that's quite a difference. All right, further questions. All right, if that, please, Ms. Anaclas. I wanted to make one more point too, because I was asked if there was a couple companies said we didn't know anything about this, but I just look back at my first emails were back in October, and so I think you were already getting emails and talking to different companies prior to that, is that correct? That's correct. And earlier months ago, staff was checking out different contracts and exploring the South Florida governmental cooperative contract as an option. So that was out there and staff received the emails and information as they came into to do that analysis. Okay, thank you. I think you have any answer to the questions? Does it point to open public hearing? I have two cards, one from the honorable Stephen Abrams, one from the honorable Ron Klein. So gentlemen, if you'd like to come to the days, please, or come to the microphone, please. You're gonna hear from all the husbands tonight. No, we're hearing from the still ours and always will be. So Mayor Council, good to see you. Stephen Abrams, LSID partners, 197 South Federal Highway, here for Alta-Ment. And you may recall Jason Norton from Alta-Ment who addressed the council your March meeting when you were considering the ordinance. The next day, as Mr. Beere indicated, we did have an opportunity to meet with staff and they were able to explain their justification for favoring red speed, which was just described. The main reason being the southeast cooperative, cooperative where plantations red speed contract is readily available. I'm here to tell you that all the piggyback contracts are probably about four or five at this point, are readily available, including the Baker County contract, which was awarded to AltaBent, which question was raised, whether that was eligible. And it certainly is and has been confirmed by the city attorney. So I'm not sure that staff was even aware that of that and examine that contract. But if the question is then it's not whether the contracts are available and certainly the companies are reputable, we'll, you know, test to that. The question then becomes, well which contract has the best terms for the city? So of course I would contend that AltaMent does of all the piggyback contracts that are live where you can actually see the vendor perform AltaMent isent is the least expensive and I agree Mr. Mayor that that's not the ultimate issue here, but it certainly is a factor that can be compared as across the vendors. But in terms of safety, in terms of getting the program up and running, which I know is such a concern of the council, ultimate is a company that deploys portable automatic license reader machines. So they can be located anywhere that the city requires and could go up faster. And finally, ultimate of course has, I would say the best local knowledge, I'm certainly familiar with all of our schools. And in fact, last year when Alta Mett was deciding whether the program would be warranted in Boca Raton, they at their expense did some speed studies and asked people which school zones should they go to. And I, of course, immediately off the top of my head, told them which were the problem school zones where cars are speeding and low and behold a year later when the city staff did its own analysis to put together the phase one that you're gonna start on, all those schools are included. So clearly, and also if, if AltaBent were chosen, I'd be working with them on their informational campaign with my familiarity as well as with the community. So this could actually be turned around pretty quickly as we know piggybacks are by definition not negotiable. So if the council deemed it appropriate, the staff could confirm what I'm saying and they could actually, ultimately could actually sign a contract by the end of the week and could be brought back to you at your next main meeting. So in short, they're the least expensive of the up and running programs. They can deploy very quickly and the contract can be entered into very quickly. So I appreciate your consideration. Thank you, Mayor and Council members. Mr. Abrams, could you just allow it? I'll rate on your last point you were saying it's a piggy bank but a piggyback but it could be negotiated? No, no, it's not allowed to be negotiated. Therefore, if you went with another vendor, you wouldn't have to go through some kind of negotiation process. The Baker County contract that was awarded ultimate is the contract that would be utilized. I thought that's what you just was. I thought I missed her a few moments. So thank you for clarifying any further questions. Right, thank you. Mr. Mayor, Council members, nice to follow my old friend here. Thank you. My name is Ron Klein, 4620, Northwest 24th Avenue Book Raton. Representing an optic mobile mobility. They're based in Jupiter. It's a company that was the original company that developed this type of equipment. They did the license plate reader. They're the ones who basically deployed all the hard work throughout the country. Most equipment is their equipment. They went into the operational side, which is obviously what you're talking about a number of years ago, and operate very successfully in that space. They did not have the opportunity, unfortunately, to get with your staff to explain what their programs all about. They're also extremely experienced in this. Their program, as a matter of fact, they're business philosophy, and I had a chance to have this conversation with one of the council members, is if they're successful, that means there are less tickets and more safe people around the streets. This is not about more tickets. This is about less tickets if people really begin to learn and adapt culturally to the fact that obviously we all know they shouldn't speed through school zones, but that's what this is really all about. They also can move very quickly because they have 200 some people in our Palm Beach County community. They work here, they live here, they operate here, and they stand behind their equipment. Also just to clarify in terms of the breakdown, when you ask the question mayor about the breakdown of, there's some statutory parts of that breakdown of the tickets. And then there's the decision based on the vendor, how much will be shared between the city and the vendor. I think this one is $21, I believe. Yann Optics is $14, that's typically what they do. So this is a different, everyone bids differently. So it's not a fixed fee arrangements, fixed as to the statutory amounts. It's not fixed in terms of what the companies offer forward. Over time, again, not being just about the money part, but over a year's period, that's probably well into the hundreds of thousands of dollars of additional resources to the taxpayers for other safety programs and other things that you may choose to use them for. So again, we're also of the opinion that it would be helpful for them to have the opportunity to present themselves to your staff, explain what they're doing, how they do it. I think if they had been given the opportunity, they probably would have been considered certainly based on a lot of factors, experience, the equipment, the support, the fact that they're local and also the pricing is extremely fair. So we'd ask you to consider that as you make your own decision today. If you decide to go forward, we would ask you to consider to do an RFP, if you go forward in an expanding of the program or making a more permanent program, that gives everybody the chance to sharpen their pencils in the way they present themselves. Make sure that everybody gets the best opportunity to present. And most importantly, you and the taxpayers get the benefit of the best opportunities for it. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? Yes, sir? Yes, you. Good evening, Mayor Council. I'm Greg Parks, I'm with Red Speed. So I wanted the opportunity to come up and address your staff's great work who've done and tell you a little bit about us to make you comfortable that hopefully you'll bring this program forward. We are the largest provider of this service in the space, fortunate to serve more school zones that all competitors combined, more school customers. This program was brought to the southeast in Georgia in 2018. Their law is nearly identical with minor changes to the Florida law. There we do have 70% of the market, which is about 70 customers. Meeting name brand ones, some more to bulk, Alfa Ratta, Gwinnett County, leading edge communities. We are data driven. We can easily document in our customers over a 90% close to 95% reduction in speeding since the implementation of the program with less than a 10% repeat violator rate. That, I think, the most meaningful statistic. If I get a citation, I don't violate again. The program is working. All at no taxpayer expense. We did champion this with the Florida legislature in 2023, based on the success of their neighbors, many of the South Georgia customers are near Tallahassee. Since then, that program was brought out in 23, F.Dott approved the guidelines in 24. We now have, I think, 30 some customers in the state. Most of what I would call the one, most similar to Boka, large communities anyway. My weekday county, Hillsborough County, Tallahassee, Cape Coral Plantation, the RFP that your staff recommended, certainly was the most competitive. We didn't bid, the other one mentioned, all the companies could do job, we're never gonna badmouth the other competition, but it was an incredible process plantation. Ran eight respondents, oral presentations, shortlisting, thorough research. If we're fortunate enough to move forward, you'd be the 16th jurisdiction, I believe, to utilize the great agreement that your staff has identified. We're ready to move forward immediately. There's a lot of variables in implementation, permitting being the greatest. But where things do line up as your staff, in that of a term, we're all having two weeks. We can't promise you that, it can be months. But we're ready to hit the ground running. We definitely have the most experience. We believe the best technology why we keep being selected by all these great communities. And lastly, I guess, we're blessed and fortunate that the Ford Police Chiefs Association did a deep dive on all the vendors, and we are their preferred vendor, and they will recognize us as their preferred vendor to do the best job for the police community. So I just wanted a chance to introduce ourselves to you all and appreciate your consideration. Thank you. Please, please. Sorry. Sir, I have a question. I apologize. That's okay. Thank you for coming today. I wanted to ask about two things because you had brought up, I'm sure I would you got up in running in two weeks and plantation. Are you up and running in plantation? We are now we're ready to go. It's the plantation desire. And I believe your staff may have spoke with them. They have a combination of Broward County roads and city roads. We have the city permits, but Broward County is not issuing any permits now. They're working on a revocable license agreement, which maybe necessary in Palm Beach. Because this will be the first ones I think are so long county roads. So no, we're not live in plantation We are a live in deerfield because they were all city roads and they were a piggyback off of Plutations but we do have over 400 cameras in the ground improving safety now in Florida. Okay second question was do you also provide portable cameras? Yes. Okay and can you tell me something about SOC2 certification? Yes. SOC2 is a very critical standard. I don't know what the acronym stands for. I should. So I apologize. But it's a standard of compliance, insurance, and professional standards and your IT security, and some other things. And probably the greatest thing I could say why. It is a critical standard we've had it for years. These are registered odor violations. And you want to issue it to the registered owner at the most current address in a very timely manner. And Ford and DHSMV in order to grant vendors access to that data requires SOC2 certification. So it's a real meritorious standard. Okay, thank you. Further questions? Right, thank you. I had a question first. Thank you. We just heard the issue that may crop up as it relates to getting permits on city versus county roads. I know some of these school zones, we have particularly ones of military or county roads. Do we anticipate an issue there? I do anticipate there will be an issue there. I dealing with the county, a getting a permit is going to be a challenge. Staff is going to leverage all of our expertise and our relationships with the county to manage that and try and find viable locations. I would just note to really quick talking about mobile deployments. I would say from staff's perspective, I do have concerns about that. We have cones that we put down to try and protect the sidewalk. Those disappear. We put down barricades. We put out generators. Those have disappeared. So I would just note that there are from time to time, if we do mobile deployments and it can be moved, there is the possibility that that will happen. I don't know if any of the vendors have experienced that, but expensive technology has the possibility to walk away if it's not secured to the ground. Well, that is difficult to fathom, but I guess what maybe it's not. Could I follow a question please? Do we, if we do anticipate, it sounds like we might having issues on getting permits for county roads. What would the plan be if say the permits for the city roads are readily available, but the ones in the county are not. Certainly, I think at that point, we would have a discussion with the manager's office and we would look at those top tier roads. If it was just city, I think staff's recommendation being that this is a pilot program would be to go ahead and deploy those on the city roadways. Okay, thank you. just following that. First, is anyone else wish to speak on this matter? Last call. We'll close the public hearing. Mr. Bear would we need a permit from the county if we use the portable device? Yes. Why? Anything just similarly I don't know the county code of ordinance off the top of my head but I'm sure I would be almost certain similar to the city code of ordinances. If you have anything that's deployed in the county right away, it would require a permit to be there. And roughly how large, how many pounds is these machines? I don't know the answer to that. Hundreds though. I can't, I can't be. It's hard for me. I'm hard to visualize that someone who actually pick one up and take one. I say to truck. I just think things that are not affixed to the ground sometimes disappear in the right ways. And I'm not saying that that has even trailer mounted or other things like that. I'm not saying it's even Boca Raton residents. I certainly know there are things. It is best to secure infrastructure physically to the ground via a foundation that would be a best practice In terms of the pilot what are you envisioning for the length of time for the evaluation? It's a very good question. I think generally from what we've seen from some of the data that it's going to take at least several months because we're going to have to, there's going to be hiccups at the beginning, just like any operational process. We have to set up a bank account. They have to be able to have the officers trained evaluating tickets. They've got to get up to speed on the program. So in the early stages, there are going to be elements where we've still got to coordinate and figure everything out with the vendor. So likely on a time scale of months to be able to really understand if the program is operationally functioning as it should. And on the training point, if we enter into a pilot, undergo training with one vendor, for whatever reason choose to seek an RFP seek to go with another vendor in the future is that training transferable or do the trained people have to start training on a different system? Yeah, excellent question and it is I would say the skills are partially transferable Okay, so the understanding of how to evaluate because a physical person is going to evaluate each one of these citations, the understanding of that is going to be transferable, but it is my understanding that each vendor has a little bit of a different software or setup. So I think there would be a little bit of a learning curve to transfer or a switching cost between vendors to understand it. I'm guessing it would be de minimis. All right, very good. For the questions? Mr. Archer first. Just a quick follow up on the county. Have we reached out to county administrators or any county? We have not at this point. I mean, I'm sorry, Mr. McBrown. May I finish my comment? I think anytime we're taking on a project of this nature, sometimes it's better to start building that in advance and having those conversations. I know in the past we've had issues with the county on other things. And the feedback that I get, and we have a commissioner that works really well in a lot of different areas that supports us for our district is having those conversations in advance. Just like we don't like to be approached, I don't let me speak for myself. I don't like surprises, really don't like surprises. It would have been, we've been dealing with this as October and before Miss Nockless and you said, well Miss Nockless reached you out October and before that, I think it's important to start having those conversations in advance because now we're entering a contract pilot that might or might not work, that I truthfully have trepidation because I don't know that we've done, in my opinion, the due diligence has needed to be done with such a project. And for me the most important thing is the public safety. It's always been and will be and it will continue to be. I've sit up here for five years with that messaging. So again, there's I feel that there's so many missing pieces here that makes me a little bit uncomfortable. So, and that part of the county makes me very uncomfortable because we had issues with the water, the water, I'm sorry, the wildflower park, things that were supposed to be done on the bridge that I don't think we've still have gotten resolution. So, I wanna support this because I support public safety and obviously I'm a mobility champion and I've always been a public safety champion but I'm also having challenges because we're hearing from all these different people and we're not following what we've done for other things in this space. So I'm a little bit uneasy on how we approach this and then the county part really uneasy really uneasy because as we know, they're not always working with us, but I do hear from them that we're not as proactive with them. And if maybe we worked with them more that they would work with us. So we could make that happen, right? We did that with Parks and Beach Rec. So I know I have faith we can. So I don't know if everyone else is feeling, but I'm feeling a little bit torn on this one for the reasons that I've stated. Thank you, Ms. Eccles. I just wanted to make a comment on the training and the transferable training that you mentioned because it was my understanding with a licensed law enforcement official that if they do the ones that are evaluating the tickets, that it's only about an hour training for each company. If you use a lay person that needs to get extra training, that's not a law enforcement official, then that's like an 80 hour training course or something like that. But as far as if it's a law enforcement official, it's only about an hour training on each, on each, with each company. So even if it's not transferable, I don't think it's a big part of it. Mr. Spirr, certainly I was just going to note that I was referring to the specific softwares and the like operational constraints. Their background understanding to get certified appropriately to be able to take action would certainly be transferable. Yes. And is it our plan, Mr. Brown and Mr. Beer, to use sworn LEOs or to use civilian personnel as well and have them undergo the longer training? We're going to start probably with law enforcement officers, only commenced, but we will look into training that civilian personnel lesser cost and keep the law enforcement on the road. Very well. Any other questions? If not, we should probably get a motion on the floor. Wrong. into training that civilian personnel, lesser cost and keep the law enforcement on the road. Very well. Any other questions? And now we should probably get a motion on the floor, on the table. Anyone care to move concerning resolution 61-2025? I'll make a motion to approve resolution number 61-2025. Thank you, sir. Second. All right, discussion. Mr. Wigter. I think we should move forward with this. I think we should have moved forward with this five months ago We're talking about a pilot program here. That's gonna help protect children What are we talking about and as Commissioner Drucker said Commissioner Woodward if you're out're out there listening, please help us. Please help us stop bureaucracy because that's not acceptable in this case. If the pilot program, if you get some good data and we can move forward, as Congressman Klein said, with a real RFP, if you think that's necessary, then let's do it. But let's get this going, all right? And I like the way Ms. Nockle said it. If they could do it in wherever it was, plantation or someplace else in two weeks, let's get this up in two weeks. Let's stop talking. Let's get it done. For the comments, Ms. Nockle? I'll just come back and say, I agree with you Mr. Wigdor, I think that we should move ahead and get it done. It is a pilot. The ultimate goal is to change behavior. other comments? Ms. Acquist. I'll just come back and say I agree with you, Mr. Oigder. I think that we should move ahead and get it done. It is a pilot. The ultimate goal is to change behavior and to protect children. And I think there are going to be, there's going to be some bumps along the way. But whether it's red speed, whether it's vera, whether it's altiment, whether it's any Any other company, I think they all have bumps along the way. This is technology that is, you know, everybody's looking at it right now and you said yourself, you used a matrix with staff to evaluate what was the best value for the city. And you went through a lengthy process, you talked to four or six companies that you evaluated and you chose Red Speed for this time. So we'll go through the pilot. We'll see how it goes. Commissioner Woodward, if you're listening, please help us. And let's move ahead. Comments, questions? Mr. Thompson. I think regarding the timing, I think that that's right. I think we should move forward. And before today, I hadn't really heard from staff as to how they chose red speed over the competitors. So I think the points made by some of the other potential vendors were well taken. I hadn't, I just hadn't heard how the staff decided on red speed. I do think it makes sense to move forward tonight with red speed. And I defer to staff. They felt that this was the best option. That's good enough for me. At the same time, I do think it makes sense that when the pilot program has concluded, it may make sense to have an RFP process, to fully have a chance to meet with all of the potential vendors compare one over the other. And to get maybe by that point, there's greater experience and data and other jurisdictions that can tell how well it's working, not just for us, but in other places. Because this is still a relatively new thing for a lot of these jurisdictions. So by then, the picture may be a little bit clearer. And I think as a result, an RFP might make sense at that point, but I will move forward with Red Speed Time. Thank you. Thank you, Thomas. I agree with my colleagues. This is a safety concern. We should address it. We could have addressed it earlier. We should be addressing it now. I think Ms. Drucker's point about better interaction with the county is well served not only here, but in many facets. And again, a compliment, Mr. Brown. I know one of your efforts has been to decilo different divisions among the cities, something we're still trying to do after, I'd say, you know, I'll practice more of silo thinking, which has some benefits, but has some number of negatives. This is an opportunity for us to take this as a moment when we see other governmental partners we can be working with. They often may take longer than we do, for example, just with the hot team agreement, which we're happy to have gotten done at their last meeting, it's still had to go through multiple iterations with the county. So getting them on board and aware of things that we're planning can't hurt to notify them earlier. I do appreciate staffs approached to focus on city roads and control while we can control now. I think the point is about seeing where we are and perhaps considering an RFP to respond to some of the concerns are good. But I think for point is about seeing where we are and perhaps considering an RFP to respond to some of the concerns are good. But I think for now let's move forward with a pilot and given the contract the ability to opt out, I think that is a good thing. Any further discussion? Admission please. Singer? Yes. Naclas? Yes. Trucker? Yes. Thompson. Yes. Yes. Waiter. Yes. Motion passes five votes to zero. Thank you. We will now turn to regular public hearings for settlements. And we'll ask Ms. Sidden's, oh please. We had B. I'm sorry, but we will not be, because we're going to go to 12 B first. Yes. Resolution 622-25 and Miss Siddins will read that first. Resolution 622-25. A resolution of the City of Boca Raton improving the continued existence of the Boca Raton Community Redevelopment Agency and extending its legal existence is September 30th, 2043, pursuant to section 163.3755 Florida Statutes, providing for severability, providing for appeal or providing an effective date. Thank you, Mr. Roe. Thank you, Mayor. We're recommending adoption of this resolution and by background is the Council's Aware CRA was created by the City Council in 1980 for redevelopment efforts in downtown Booker Tone. And under current state law, the CRA is scheduled to sunset on September 30th,39. Unless City Council takes form of action to continue an extended term. The resolution before you formally approves the continuing existence of the CRA and extends its legal existence through September 30, 2043. This action preserves the city's ability to maintain and implement its long term redevelopment strategy. As I mentioned to all of you earlier today, the timing of this resolution is also significant because of the legislature, Florida legislature. This currently considering Senate bill 1242, which if adopted will restrict future extensions of CRA's existence unless such action were taken by May 1st of this year. Therefore, while the bill has not yet been finalized or not been enacted adopting this resolution now ensures the CRA's continued existence and extension are finalized prior to that potential change. There is no fiscal impact. I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Council members. Any questions? Album the floor to public comment. Anyone wishing to speak on this matter? Last call and we will entertain a motion. Public comment on this item alone. I have your card for public request generally. Seeing no one come forward on this particular item, we'll close the public hearing, will anyone please? Just I've wanted to acknowledge the cooperation of the city attorney's office and resolving this issue promptly today. When identified. All right, thank you. We will close the public hearing. We'll entertain a motion to adopt resolution 62 2025 door hair motion. So moved. Second. Thank you. Any discussion? I'll just add, I want to thank city staff and the city attorney for two things. One, we have been discussing this conceptually for a while. So it's good that we were able to pivot in anticipating things. I would encourage us as things may happen between now and July 1 to continue to move quickly. You demonstrated good work in moving quickly to close the loop on something we talked about for a while. If there's other things out there, let's move a mommy agenda earlier. If there's no further discussion, then Mrs. Ins please. Tracker? earlier. If there's no further discussion then Ms. Siddins please. Trucker? Yes. Naclas? Yes. Thompson? Yes. Wigter? Yes. Singer? Yes. Motion passes five votes to zero. Thank you. That concludes regular public hearings now. Now we will move to regular public hearings for settlements and the last minutes to write read the title of Resolution 53-2025. Resolution number 53-2025. A resolution of the City of Boca Raton considering the application of 1489 Mortagy LLC for a settlement and reduction of one code enforcement lien imposed against property located at 1489 West Palmetto Park Road, providing for severability, providing for repeal or providing an effective date. Thank you, Mayor Aaron Cita for the Development Services Department. We'll make the presentation on resolution number 53 2025. Miss Cita. Good evening, the item before you, my mic on yes. The item before you as previously stated is a lien reduction request for the property located at 1489. West Palm Metal Park Road. The subject site is located in the professional office and institutional zoning district, or the POI. It was developed in 1986 with a four-story commercial office building. The applicant for this particular item is Ellie Zacharytis on behalf of the property owner who is 1489 mortgage LLC. The request is to reduce the code enforcement lien of $118,220. The applicant is requesting 100% reduction. Staff is recommending a 75% reduction with payment in 30 days. Some history on this particular case, the property was cited as case number 13, 2021 on May 13, 2014. The NOV or the Notice of Violation identified several life safety violations, including concrete falling from the ceilings in the parking garage, failure to maintain the building's roof as well. And you can see some of the photos here on the screen. On May 14th, the special magistrate issued an order of enforcement with several dates and compliance actions. One of them was to immediately close off the third and fourth floors of the parking garage, obtaining a permits for concrete restoration, repairs to the main building by June 13th, and completing all repairs by September 13th, 2014. And due to the severity of the life safety violations, failure to meet these compliance timelines would result in a thousand dollar daily fine. So the owners failed to comply with any of the required dates, and we're not returning contact and corresponding clearly with staff. And so at the October 8th, 2014 meeting, the special magistrate certified $118,000 in fines, as well as $220 in administrative fees were certified as a lien. And that was for the 118 days between June 14th and October 8th. The case was ultimately closed on June 29th, 2015 and the staff did not seek additional certification of liens on this particular case because the property owners began to work towards compliance on the particular case. Subsequently, between 2015 and 2021, there was a series of code compliance cases were opened and resolved. We're related to a variety of life safety violations, including but not limited to work without permit, no back generator issues related to fire pumps, fire alarms, emergency access, exit signs, and Emergency Lighting. They were complied prior to certification of any further leans on those particular subsequent cases as well. So the current applicant fully acquired the property and March of 2019. It was previously owned, had a condominium style ownership with five property owners. Subsequently, the current applicant proceeded with a substantial redevelopment of the property, including development approvals, which authorized the addition of 16,296 square feet of office space, an exterior site and building modifications, which it definitely looks a lot better. I think the applicant has requested, as I previously stated,% reduction of the lien pursuant to section 2-121, subsection 5 of the code of ordinances, the decision on lien reduction rests with you all as the city council. Staff is recommending a approximately 75% reduction to a total of $30,000 based on the following factors. The first factors, there were serious life safety violations that occurred in the property and then continued to re-encour of the fire code, the building code, and the international property maintenance code. Secondly, there were significant staff time and resources were expended by the city over multiple years and ensuring that the property was complying with these minimum requirements. And finally, the applicant has completed a substantial renovation of the property, which is why the staff is supporting the 75% reduction. So that concludes my presentation. And I know the applicant has a presentation as well. Thank you, Councillor Meadows. Any questions of staff? Mr. Wigter? Yes. You said that there were substantial renovations to the property, including expansion. And I assume that they got permits to do those things. Yes. And did they pay for those permits? Yes. And how much did they pay in fees, permit fees? Oh, I don't have that information. We know the approximate value of the work that was put into improve the property. In addition to the repairs that were done. It was a substantial reduction. I mean a substantial improvement, sorry. Like millions? Like a couple million or like- Yes, probably yes, I would say millions. I'm the applicant is here. That's probably a question better geared towards them. I just was, I didn't have that for a period, sorry. Thank you, I'll ask the applicant. Thank you. Staff questions? Miss Cedar, Miss Cedar, excuse me. You said that there were continuing violations that occurred up until 2021. Could you describe more of the nature of the violations that acquired after the applicant completed the applicant acquisition in 2019 and the end of 2021 Sure There was parking garage disrepair violations and and in 2021 was the one. And then that was, a permit was submitted subsequently to repair that concrete, and then that was ultimately finalized in 2021. The permit, the main permit for the renovation, I believe, was finaled July 19th of 2024. But in all those cases, I know when, once the current property owner took over the property that they were working towards compliance in good faith. So there's no concern about the current applicant not working or when an issue arose, they were actively engaged and making the property better and going through the development review process. So when that particular case occurred, I know during the time when the when the property was in transition from 2013 to 2015, there were several there was a fire department violation and there was also an unpermitted work identified in the building. But I was asking just after 2019, so what I heard is that there was, was that a new violation or was that a continuation? They were new violations. After 2019. Yes. No fines were certified? No. Where any fines levied by the magistrate? No. The, in fact, the cases were opened, but the applicant, the notices of violation were issued, but the applicant complied prior to, prior to going, taking them to special magistrate. So we don't always get an order of enforcement. Kind of what we talked about is like our process really, I don't know if you remember it's been a while, but we have up to five inspections before we actually get a lien. And we'll have multiple inspections prior to scheduling the order of enforcement hearing for any particular violation. And we don't, we try to work with with property owners, if they're complying and they're moving forward towards compliance, we try not to take them back to the special magistrate for an organ of enforcement. Thank you for the questions. All right we'll invite the applicant to come forward and then anyone else who wishes to speak. Good evening Ellie's accurate is 14 southeast forest. I do have a very thorough presentation, but I think I'm just going to speak off the cuff. Mr. Wickeder, we paid to date $356,000 in building permithes in the renovation of this project. Ms. Seiza, thank you so much for your very thorough presentation. Mr. Doug Sheety is not here today, but I do want to thank him as well for working very diligently with us as we go through this process. First and foremost, I understand why there are violations, and of course safety is of everyone's utmost concern. And I also understand why there's fines associated with violations when bad actors do not cure and do not cure timely. Unfortunately, that is not the case here. So while there were in fact bad actors and there was in fact a violation and fines did accrue, the owners of this property are not them. They were not the bad actors. So all of this started in 2014. As Mississa noted, they were not, Grover Curlou was not the owner of either 1489, which is this building, or 1499, which is the building just to the south that a but's Pum Park Road. It wasn't until approximately 2016 I believe that Grover Curlou bought the Southern Building, not this building, the Southern Building. There is significant amount of parking, there is share parking between the two buildings, and there is significant amount of parking in this building in 1489. It did not take Grover Curlou long to figure out that their asset in 1499 is in jeopardy when 1489 is falling apart. So at that point in 2017, actually let me back up, the 1489 is five unit owners was an office condominium. There was significant mismanagement. It went into receivership There were lawsuits internally in that building and it went into receivership Grover curlough now owning 1499 is seeing not understand the receivership or any of that just merely seeing that 1489 is falling in disrepair. So in order to secure their asset at 1499, they decided they're gonna start tempting to buy units at 1489. They bought their first unit in 2017. They did not have control over the association at that time, They had one unit. They worked very diligently, ended up foreclosing on some units, going into receivership on some units. It wasn't until 2019 that they secured complete control of this building. So everything that happened happened four years before my client had ownership or control over this building. Since that time, and I think this is very important, since 2019, from 2019 to 2024, our client secured ownership of $1489. They assembled a team to prepare plans for submittal. They submitted to the city of Boca Raton and it wasn't a small task. It was a rezoning, a comprehensive plan amendment, a site plan approval with an expansion. It took significant amount of work to assemble that project. Your staff worked extremely diligently. We got through that process, then we prepared construction drawings submitted for building permit, paid $356,000 in building permit fees, issued our permit, and did all of the work. And all of that was done in five years. That is quite impressive. I actually applaud them for that. They did that in five years. Now, why didn't we come here sooner for a lean reduction? Because I'm not eligible for one until all the violations are cured. I worked very diligently with your staff to ensure that we were ready to submit our lean reduction as soon as we got our TCO, which we got in April of 2024, and I submitted my lean reduction request in May of 2024. So no time was wasted, Grover Curl who did everything they possibly could to ensure that they worked quickly, they wanted to, I mean, their businessmen, and quite frankly, they're not making any money. Instead, they're losing over $30 million in improvements in this building. I personally live right down the street and I love it. I think it's a great asset to our city. It's, in my opinion, the most beautiful office building we have to date. I'm not going to do my presentation, but I do just want to scroll and show you some pictures. For those of you that have been great, I appreciate your time and meeting on site. For those that haven't had an opportunity, we welcome it anytime if you want to come and see it. But this is the interiors now. I'm pretty sure you would agree. This is stark different than what it looked like before. And I have both a new shgrover and Mark Curlou here if you have any questions. And that's it. I'm here to answer any questions as well. Thank you, Council members, any questions? All right. Seeing none, thank seeing none thank you anyone else wishing to speak on this matter? Do you want to speak Mr. Grover? No. Please wait until you're on the. So the friends at home can hear you, too. I apologize. I need you to grab her on behalf of the building owner. I was just going to clear up a few points, which is in 2017, we bought the debt of one of the unit owners. So we actually had to go through the foreclosure process to actually get ownership before we could actually then reconstitute the board of directors, of which at that point in time there still was a receiver that was appointed by the courts. And so even after we acquired all the units, the receiver could not be dismissed by the courts, or they weren't dismissed by the courts. The receiver controlled the association until all of the items that was open with the city was in fact cleared. At least that's how it was explained to us. So that was just a point that I really wanted to make sure you all understood. So we had been working since, I mean, prior to even buying the debt, when we bought the neighboring building in 2016, we've been working from 2016 to 2019 just to try and get control of this. So it was a project that just needed, I mean, it desperately needed something. And I mean, I'm sure the staff spent a crazy amount of time trying to get this back into control. So I know there was also some conversation about 2019 to 2021. Again, that wasn't us. There was a receiver in place that controlled the association. As soon as we got control of the building, I mean, obviously we have to get through a process of hiring engineers and the like before you could just willy-nilly start addressing the problems because we wanted to address it the right way. That's all I wanted to add. Thanks. Sorry. I forgot to. Go ahead. One second. You've already spoken once. This is not a typical hearing, but Ms. Zacharytis, would you like to add anything? I forgot to add my ask. I do appreciate that staff is willing to reduce it by 75%. I very much appreciate that. But again, in light of the fact that these are not the bad actors, we respectfully request that they not be penalized and we move forward with zero dollars 100% reduction. Ms. Acheritis, since Mr. Grover was kind enough that staff spent a great deal of time dealing with this and they are standing in the shoes, how would you assess, how would you suggest that we factor in that considerable staff time and expense of the taxpayer? Sure, and I do appreciate staff. I work with them very regularly. And Mr. Shad, Mr. Denarcio, and Mr. Shidi came on site. They were so pleasantly surprised with what this looked like while we were preparing for a TCO. They applauded our efforts. I do recognize that they put a lot of time into this. But again, it was with another group of people, which is not us. But what we have delivered to you is not just 356,000 in building peron fees and not just a $30 plus, $30 million dollar renovation, but we have a beautiful building in our city that we can all be proud of. Thank you for the questions. All right, thank you. Anyone else wishing to speak? All right, we will close the public area and we'll entertain a motion to adopt resolution 53, 2025. So moved. All right, thank you. You have to determine, you have to, anyone moving should state what the amount is or if we're going to grant the reduction and to what amount. So I would. I thought we would just have discussion. Right, but right, but the motion has blanks in it. So we need, right, we need to come up with it So much it suggests something so let okay, so okay here we go I move that we go with stast recommendation for discussion at 30,000 Okay, all right is there a second second all right discussion. I can I make an alternate motion or we all you can move to a men the you can move to amend the motion on the floor But I would suggest why don't you discuss your point first and then mr. Thompson will speak and then we can see a real end Okay, just wait here. Okay. Thank you very much This is a situation where The buyer of the property went through a significant legal process Beyond all our control, really, in terms of foreclosing on the note and then acquiring enough condominium to, therefore, I guess, terminate the condominium and to do the right thing. So they bought it with some baggage, right, and the baggage is what happened before. And so after that, they spent millions and millions of dollars. And I guess we could back into how much money they actually spent in order to produce $356,000 of permit fees. We're talking about a significant improvement. The properties then put into service. If you look at Papa, you will see that the assessed valuation of the property is now increased. So now I believe they're paying more taxes each year, a hundred thousand or several dollars, more more in taxes because they've tried to do the right thing. It's a great adaptive reuse project. I've been in the project before it was converted and it's really, I can't believe it's, you were able to do this with that building. I thought at one point it just had to come down because it was and it was in bad shape and so I do appreciate your investment in the city and in the tax base because you believe in this and of course the University of Miami did too and I'm appreciative of them also so for that reason, I don't think the 75% reduction really, I think it's arbitrary and to your point. Once they took it over in 2019, I think they tried to move as fast as reasonably possible given what they had to do there. There was no way they could certify it faster. So I would agree to, I'd like to amend this to reduce it. Maybe if you want to show something to reflect the work, but again, the work of staff, the work of those things is in the $356,000 in permit fees. And it's in the annual taxes that they pay us each year that have now gone up substantially. So I'd move to move that $30,000. I'd have an additional 75% reduction and I'd call it $7,500. Let's call it a day. All right, Mr. Thompson. I appreciate staff's analysis and the work they put into this going back to 2014 and through now. And I also appreciate the efforts that have been made by the staff to compromise on this situation. I feel like each one of these, I always say these are tricky. Lean reduction requests are tricky. And this I think arguably is more unique than most for some of the reasons that were just mentioned. I do think that this applicant has demonstrated diligence towards compliance when the issues arose after they acquired the building, which happened in 2019. It never got to the point where they incurred fines. I think that is demonstrated by the fact that they have in good faith and utmost good faith worked towards addressing those things. The fact that the staff is, and I think I agree with you in a way, Mr. Wigger, that a lot of times these offered reductions could be arbitrary, like the number you sell up on is kind of, can be arbitrary. But the fact that such a significant reduction was offered by the staff here reflects the mitigating factors that are present here, the overwhelming mitigating factors I think in my view. It was a product of the tortured ownership and litigation history, I think that led them to the position that they're in here and not these owners. And so we say this whenever these come up, whenever these lean reduction requests come up, the point of the code enforcement process is to ensure compliance. And in my view anyway, exacting a fine like this on these owners does not promote compliance in this building or in any other part of the city, given the kind of mitigating factors that are present. If anything to exact a fine like this, even at the 75% reduction, would seem to me to be punishing the son for the sins of the father as we read somewhere once. And in my view, I think that this situation calls for grace. So it would be my preference that we reduce the fine all the way down to zero like the applicant has requested. Comments? Is necklace? So while I'm certainly open to considering everything, there's a couple things that I want to point out here. So the applicant fully acquired the property in 2019. They were part owners prior to that and they did have knowledge of the leans that were on this property when they were acquiring the property. So when I was talking to Miss Sackaraita, she told me around 2017 was when they were when they were knew about the leans. And you know, I brought up the comparison, well, what if there was a lean on my home and I was trying to sell it, somebody wouldn't be able to close on it until they satisfied that lean. And so, you know, I appreciate I also think this is one of the prettiest office space in the city. And I've been in it, I've toured it. I think it's absolutely beautiful and I agree that they've paid so much in permit fees and I've done so much to get into compliance and insure compliance. But just want to have that discussion about, you know, they did know about these leans when they bought the, they were not, it wasn't just the sins of the father, they knew about this also. They were part, no, they were not part owners. Okay, no. And actually, yes, I was gonna, okay. When you were done, I was gonna ask a question relating to that. But you can't say that. Okay, that's what I understood from our discussion, but if I'm wrong, please Mr. Rayory. You sure? Can we have Ms. Eccleur? Or do you want to ask a question? Ask the question, please. Mr. Ranger, if she can. You sure, can we have Ms. Nacos? Or do you want to ask a question? Ask a question, staff, please. So I, Ms. Nacos, I had a similar question from Ms. Eccaritis about when you buy a house, as usually there are leans in place. What you discussed with me was that you were not aware that the leans were in place. So, Miss Egaritis, can you clarify so that Miss Nakis and the rest of us are all? What I'm going to discuss with me was that you were not aware that the leans were in place. So, Miss Ageritis, can you clarify so that Miss Nacos and the rest of us are all on the same page? Because that's different that we're sure. She got, was it for the one I got? I don't want to make sure we're on the right page. Sure. Sorry for the confusion. First, yes, they did own a unit in 2017. about their first one. They did not have control. There's one unit owner that owned 53% and they had control. It was also in receivership and completely out of their control. They did not know about the leans and Miss Naclas, I'm sorry if there was any confusion, but if you recall, I showed in the Zoom call the email that Mark had drafted to one of your colleagues that said they were not aware of any leans when they purchased the property We had no idea that this was happening. Yes Did we own a small fraction of the building? They did but it was in courts They had no knowledge of any leans being placed on the property prior to their purchase No knowledge of of any, no, I'm sorry, sorry, Mr. Mayor. You may go. No knowledge of any notice of violation. No. OK. Then I misunderstood when you asked me to apologize. And I apologize. Thank you for clarifying that. Thank you. And Zacharitis, you were referring to the email that Mr. Corleuse sent in response to my questions. That's correct. a little confused here because the the leans were a record and there was some reference to something that happened with title that we were unclear why title didn't pick it up is it because of the way you acquired the interests it wasn't a straight you didn't acquire fee simple we'd yes I'll let Mr. that's correct we didn't acquire fee simple in 2017 we acquired the debt then you had to go through the process of foreclosing on the debt in order to get title. So, and then when you got title, you only got title to certain amount of units, not the association. I believe the lien was associated with the association, not those particular units. Also, I don't believe that even if you did, I believe we did a property search at the time when we acquired the units and I don't believe the city lean actually showed up in the property search. I think you could have done a separate municipal lean search and I think it would have picked that in of itself would have picked it up, but it wasn't actually in the record of chain a title of the land and I guess for some reason you or your attorneys Professionals did not do that municipal lean search Again, we bought we bought merely the debt because we were looking at a building that was falling over So I mean we we sort of embarked on this process to try and actually get the building air quotes fixed. The other thing is if you wouldn't, not to be argumentative, but if you look at, I mean, this is for actions prior to 2015 and even the city said in their presentation that the staff said that the case was closed in 2015. But the lien was before then. Okay. All right. Thank you. I guess. Mr. Mayor. Please. This is for development services. This is an office condominium. It's just a condominium in general. When a lien is assessed on a condominium unit, obviously the title of a unit is its own parcel. So how is a code enforcement lien against, put on each unit? Is it put on every single unit or is it put on the units in question? Obviously, would even code enforcement, would they even know that it's a condominium? I'm going to hope the city attorney can help me a little bit, but I believe that it's a technical issue and you can actually choose to if you're leaning the entire property. I believe you can choose to lean every single unit within the condominium. I believe is how it works, But you can also fail to do that in only one unit. So, Councilmember Wigger and the rest of the council, so again, under the statute, you have a violator and an owner of a property, and so we're dealing with a condominium commercial condominium. A unit. When you say a violator is an owner of a unit? Not in the condominium. I'm saying generally this big picture under chapter 162, the statute, which allows for code enforcement, says a violator who owns property that's in violation, gets an opportunity to cure, et cetera, you go through the process. At the end of that process, there is an order imposing fine. And then it's recorded in this case. So there's no statute doesn't talk to kind of minimums per se. But in this case, the order was against 1489 West Palmetto Park Road. There was a PCN. It was recorded in 2015 against Trans Florida Bank of Bank Senator Condo, unit three. One unit. That's how it was recorded. I can't speak to why it was recorded that way. I don't have the entire code file in front of me. I know that the order imposing fine was against Transflored of Senator Inc. for a PCN that co-inforced staff selected at that time with an address of 1489 West Palm Island Park Road. Again, based upon the nature of the violation, my understanding is it was an intent to encumber the property. But I just tell you that the certified fund was recorded July 2015 against unit three. I withdraw my motion for $7,500 and I agree with Mr. Thompson. All right. Well, it was never on the floor. I just said could I have someone from the applicant confirm? Were you guys titled, were you guys kind of unit three? At what point? No. I mean, we own it now. We own it all now, but no, not at the time of in 2017 or in 2019. When did Kondo, when did Unit 3 come into the picture? For the end? The last unit they acquired. All right, last unit. That was. 53% it wasn't it? No. All right. Thank you. Ms. Drucker. Okay. I don't have a question about that. My question is a point of clarification for Miss Sita. You said that there was violations on building and things in 2000, between 2019 and 2021. Was that, can you clarify, was that when they were already acquired the entire property, or is that still ongoing from the previous issues? During the time that those violations occurred, I'm not sure about the 2021 violation when they particularly acquired what percentage of the building or if it was in receivers receivership, but the 2015 violation which was the life safety violations in the 2017 which was work without permit, I believe at that time that they had, according to their information, had one unit and did not have full ownership of the entire condominium association. So it was the prior owner. Prior owner. Okay. Thanks. All right. So I think there was a motion to amend by Mr. Wigder to go to zero on the fine. Yes. All right. Is there a second for that? There is a second. All right. This is a murky one. I'm inclined to go with this zero. I wouldn't First staff gave a very generous Reduction more than typical, but this is a very atypical situation What the city attorney just read about conda unit three is a very availing fact in my instance And also I would suggest this is a great opportunity for us to look at our code Enforcement process because we have an outstanding property owner who's invested and really transformed a property. And we don't have a program yet for, it doesn't come up often, but I just consider whether it's worthwhile. Other cities have programs to encourage. We actually do we have a program, Mr. Shad, where we encourage where if someone's going to invest in a property, we work with them at the outset in terms of their leans or we don't do something like that. So the lean reduction process is just what you see here. Now we certainly can maybe induce them to say yes, we will be generous in our recommendation if you diligently fix the issues, but that's not really a set process. It's just a matter of course. It doesn't come up often. This is an extreme case or an unusual case, and hard cases make tough loss. So I would say that this one stands alone, but I'm inclined to go with the zero on this one. All right, so we have a motion to amend that's been seconded. Any further discussion on the amendment? Then all those in favor of the amendment, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Amendments 5-0, then we'll go now to the motion. Any further discussion on the motion as amended to reduce it to zero? No further discussion and miscedons please. Mayor, please. For the record. Section one of the resolution will read, the lien is hereby reduced by 118,220 dollars the total amount of the lien do is there for zero and No payment is required. All right. Thank you for clarifying. I think that was clear and now it's extra clear. Missed and please Waker. Yes, Thompson. Yes, singer. Yes, necklace. Yes have to have it up to three minutes. Please give your name and address. Mr. Mayor, council members. My name is Michael unique and complex permitting needs. I currently have multiple projects making their way through the city of Boca Raton's Building Department. I am pleased to be able to bring attention to the wonderful job that the City's Building Department staff is doing by offering Caulcière service type services that are needed for large projects. This group of individuals has proven to be flexible and nimble in order to meet the needs of these projects as they arise throughout the process. Specifically, I'd like to recognize the efforts of Brandon Shad, Chief Building Official Mike Denarsio, Deputy Building Official Jerry Naha James Assistant to Mike Denarsio, Danette Hughes, Tori Boone, Jay Sumner, and Dan Rush, the Assistant Fire Marshal, and the many other departments that support the permit approval process here in Boca. In the last several years, my clients, including, but not limited to Baptist Hospital, Boca Raton, the Boca Raton, excuse me, name change. Town Center Mall, Martin Manor, and others have paid to the city over $10 million in permitting fees. It is not uncommon for my firm to have as many as 70 permits moving through your system at any one time. I feel like that gives me some insight and that's why I come to you here tonight to provide this feedback that you probably don't get from a lot of folks. A successful project from conception to completion is a success for the owner, the city and the owner and the city. Again, I want to commend the building department for the assistance they provide. And thank you tonight for allowing me to share this with you. Thank you, Mr. Wood, for not only your kind comments, which we appreciate, and we appreciate our hardworking staff. Thank you for waiting two and a half hours just to share them publicly, we appreciate it. It may I add something, Mayor? Mr. Wood, good to see you. Feel free to come back anytime. Thank you. Mr. Gollis. Hello, my name is Anna Stasia Colas. I live at 199 men's field E, Bokorotone, Florida, 33434. I have stated before that I have attained over 75 signatures of people that have reviewed my evidence in regards to hacks that have become rampant in Boko Raton, and they want a cyber task force. Some of the signatures come from students at FAU, FIU, and PC professor with seven signatures coming from IT professionals, and two are former military servicemen. I am going to be collaborating with David Fowler, who has over 30 years of experience and works as the director of education for Cisco right here in Bokeh. This is a local cybersecurity professional. Anything really a Discosco is huge. And. And tutelage under the biggest man in cybersecurity in Palm Beach County, Richard Mendel, who trained the FBI and military. He's also given me a compliment as well, and I'm only stating this just so I make sure that you guys don't think I'm making this up. I've gotten the signatures, I have professionals around me, I'm bringing valid stuff to your attention. In addition to this, I have gotten a letter from Mayor Singer that I want to also state. Mayor Singer has stated that you guys do not control the police stations and what I have done is, especially if you look at some of the paperwork, but I know I've given you guys a lot of papers. I'm going to hold on to them. This is more than just a police force. I'm actually looking to alter the name and call it maybe Cyber Nights, where you would actually have people not just combat cyber crime, but solve problems in the community, utilizing something that I call F-E-H. An example for this would be like for infrastructure, which I've spoken with Mr. Lucasick in regards to, these nights would actually look and to enhancing security measurements for them. Councilmember Drucker is very concerned about women's rights and stuff like that. Hackers in the book of a tone area target women for rape utilizing hacker cables that are disseminated at stores like Best Buy and Apple. these nights would take care of the ladies. And then in addition to that, Mr. Singer, I know you stated you guys don't oversee the police. So this would be a group of volunteers that would not just do the stuff that I stated, but this would actually actually be one of the most revolutionary concepts in, I think, Boca Raton history, because, and I know I haven't sat down and talked to you guys, but I was looking to solve every problem in this city that a cyber criminal can possibly do. And involves like even increasing TODs, residents like Mark Concentral and Recruiter has stated and bring attention to the book of a town area. In addition to this, I know I might look a little bit weird. I'm a little... Ms. Ellis, could you please conclude? Um, okay. Um, I would like to set up appointments with you all because it's really hard for me to talk during the three minutes. And I think if I sat down with maybe a couple of you, I might be able to actually showcase what I'm really trying to do, which is solve some problems that are not being properly addressed in both. Thank you. Yeah, okay. All right, anyone else wishing to speak under public request? Tonight for public request is closed. We'll now turn to introduction of ordinances we have none. We have no quasi-judicial public hearings for variances and appeals. So we'll turn to city manager reports and recommendations, Mr. Brown. I have no additional reports. Thank you. City Attorney reports. No report. Thank you, Mr. Kailer. I'll turn to my right for Council Member Reports. Mr. Wigdo. Yes, I have a report. Thank you. So last week, the county's Affordable Housing Commission hosted all the local Affordable Housing Commission's and Vokarotone was very well represented up there. They talked about the recommendations. Of course, as we're familiar, the list is quite statutory. There's a list of like ten things you can do and stuff like that and increased density lower permit fees for affordable housing expedite processing time but something that was discussed that the county recommends is the use of TDRs transferable development rights to allow for density bonuses if they're not used in a certain area there's was up to five units in acre bonus for attainable housing. Maybe it's something Boca Raton can consider in the right place rather than re-zoning each lot one by one or more complicated adaptive reuse plans just to get this special mixture of uses. The county's plan is easily available on the website. It's something that we can start to look into. It could be an opportunity for us to increase home ownership and affordable housing. Likewise, condo builders, we talked about this. The CIMD regs that we passed, they're really not conducive to building condominiums. And they're hard to do financially. It's difficult. I know Tallahassee's worried about it, but again, the numbers don't pencil out. It's not so easy to do. So condo builders could potentially buy out of the CIMD regs. And CIMD builders could then buy the TDRs, the bonus, what they need to make the numbers work from a TDR bank, as it says right here, that they're doing in the county, to get the density bonus to make the numbers work. The PM, the Plan Mobility Zone, things like in that Northern sector, where there's a lot of land, is a good place for us to start looking at this. In many other cities, they've already done this in New York, they've been doing it for decades. So this is not inventing the wheel. It's just trying to give people the tools, the menu, to improve properties like the former people just came up here and did. So it's another way. Another topic that we discussed was this acknowledgement that workforce housing and transit are linked. It's the total cost of housing and getting to work that strains families, autos, insurance, maintenance. So by doing what we just started to do, bicycle oriented developments, this is one in Houston where we just were, you know, by making living and working close to each other, you're reducing the total workforce cost because you're reducing their transit number. And we already see that. People scootering and biking on the tri-rail. Obviously, you know, e-bikes are an issue there, but obviously people are using those last mile logistics. And as Mr. Brown said, those numbers for people using those buses, they're going up because the total cost is what the workforce is trying to reduce here. And if the housing cost is not going down, well, then they have to reduce their transit cost. So we need to start looking at these holistically. And of course, shared-use trail adjacent properties, they enjoy definitely value increases. Initially, as I said, initially, they start with walls. But then as people start to see the value increase, they put doors in because they realize that it's tremendous value to be adjacent to a shared-use trail. So there might be a lot of nimbis there that are not interested. But again, the door is opening up increased value to your property by being used to something where you and your children can bike safely all the time. So maybe it's something we can consider. And just as values near transit and shared-use are perceived higher, conversely, property values can get deeply, deeply slashed when mass transit is reduced. As this article in the CRA daily came up literally this morning in terms of potential filly cuts to service. And I thought about this in relation to the trial because there's been some discussions about significant cuts to trial and I hope that people up there are listening a little bit is just be careful about that because cutting trial might in the short term look like you're saving $10 million or something like that but ultimately getting these these people away from transit opportunity is gonna reduce property values that's gonna be far more than $10 million. So please consider the options here in terms of those links between housing, transit, and property values, they're all linked together. So please consider that. We started this, the adaptive reuse that we talked about last week in the northern sector of the El Rio Trail. The adjacent properties has begun. So I think we can expand on this, keep working on it. In addition to the CMD, whether we do TDRs or rebrand at PM, but to get some organization, some really kind of master plan in going in this sector, because that's where the land is. And that's where the opportunities are. And like I said, we've just started with one. We've just started with one project there. So this is just the beginning. And at point on these lean reductions, as we saw, this was an older building. A lot of Boca's office buildings are getting older. So you have 13 million square feet of potential adaptive reuse that is going to happen in this next cycle. We're going to have to give the private sector away an opportunity to invest in that. And it can't just be with CIMD. It's going to have be a menu of services to give the private sector an opportunity here. So again, I applaud that person for starting, that entity for starting this, and I think it opens the door for us to do more. So let's start on that. Let's think about that. I'll keep working on it too. Happy Earth Day to everybody, And let's keep doing great things. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Drucker. Thank you. So I'm gonna prepare some remarks for the next meeting. As all of you know, I said here I was on a bike immersion and that I went to last week. That was outside of the States. And what I came back with was that a lot of the issues that they're having in other parts of the world are also happening here in our backyard when it comes to mobility, transportation, and housing. And I have so much information, so much data. I biked an Amsterdam from a city to another city, to another city. And I also biked in a city in Paris, whereas very similar to what we have here, including in our roads in Boca, because we have unprotected lanes. They're just eliminated with a marker. But it was interesting to see the mindset of the individuals there, because even someone like me that's not an expert biker, I was able to bike in the traffic without having protected barriers. And then I was able to bike in areas where they just implemented protected barriers in the last five years. And not only did they put these protected lanes and preparation for the Olympics, but how quickly they did it and how they were able to close complete roundabouts and how they were able to completely shut down at times, the Shams Ali Zay, and people were able to still get around. And what I tell you, my colleagues, because I can't wait to prepare this presentation is, we struggle with closing a small area. We need to be bold, and we need to be challenging all-to-planning staff, Mr. Speck, to bring us bold, holistic approaches to the downtown. Because of a place that Paris friends could do radical changes in a five-year period. We can do a lot in the city of Boca. And it really opened my eyes to how slow we move and how we can even do a built-out in six months. We can't even put a barricade up and close the street. I went through out other parts of the these two countries where they've activated streets by putting plants like the ones we have in front of us. I saw at a day they brought us there at night. We started at 8. We ended way in the evening. Biking, walking, understanding. The pedestrian activism, the school areas where they've added these areas for the children, for the parents. It was the most enlightening experience and I've done a lot of these transit peer exchange and I want to thank the Transit Planning Agency, the Dutch Embassy, which worked with us on this particular trip. And I had people on the trip that weren't also from Palm Beach, or from Broward, and Miami, and different stakeholders. And it wasn't all elected. There were urban planners, all different groups of individuals educating us on this process. So I'm going to put something together as soon as I can, hopefully for the next meeting so that I could present it. And then I will be having, you know, follow up meetings with Mr. Brown and some of the stuff that I brought back. And the other part that I found really fascinating, I'm going to leave it at that was the amount of signage and education everywhere I went, even if there wasn't anyone there and I didn't even have a phone, they have signage everywhere where it says, we are fixing this plant. This plant project is $2 million. This is what we're going to start the project. This is what we're going to end the project. I don't have to have a cell phone. I don't have to be on the internet. I don't have to come to a meeting. It's right there. Whatever they were doing in that particular road, whatever they were doing, in the particular area and the particular district, they're divided by districts. I knew I didn't have to research. Nobody had to tell me. I could have done the tour pretty much on my own and I would have known that on that street they're doing this because of X, Y, and Z. So I think as we continue with our process and our policy changes and our implementation. That's a really great way of educating even on things that we're doing say, mine's in a park if we put in a bike lane, if we put in a, you know, a water fountain, the doggie fountain, everything was on a big board, big size board, it just said, this is when we started, this is where we're going, this is a history, this is what we're trying to do, this is how much is gonna cost you the taxpayer dollars. It was so enlightening, I have to say, I've only been back for two days, and I'm still processing a lot of the information, but I can't wait to share the rest of it with you. So that's my report, Happy Earth Day, and we're still monitoring legislative updates. There's a lot of information coming out as we continue to go before we conclude on May 2. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Annkels. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So we had two proclamations today in a presentation. But I was also at the community garden today with some members from the junior league and also from the Fuller Center. We were there. And I think we're going to have to go the community garden today with some members from the junior league and also from the Fuller Center. We were there giving a proclamation on your behalf and the cities behalf for Earth Day. So thank you for providing that. The kids all got to do a bunch of different events there. They got to tag butterflies, they got to plant seeds, they got to paint kindness rocks. There was six or seven different events that the kids got to participate in. So thank you again for providing that proclamation for there. I also want to remind everybody that we have a bike rodeo, our inaugural bike rodeo, coming up on May the 3rd at Spanish River Athletic Complex. And you can go to mybocca.us to check it out. But some of the highlights include free bike helmets, bike inspections, bicycle safety education, skill building activities, and a trail ride if you wanted to participate in that. Pre-registration is required, space is limited, and you need to bring your own bike. There will be some limited bikes available to borrow from Jack the bike man. So please check that out and get your child registered for that. And also just wanted to remind everybody to, because I didn't remind everybody yesterday, to get the circuit out and make sure you start riding Bokeh Connect. And that's all. Thank you Mr. Thompson. No report, thank you. Thank. I'll be brief. First I want to start with a recognition of a someone who served the city for many years and many capacities and more and is passing the late fire chief of both Boko Riton and Delray Beach Kerry Cohen passed several weeks ago. As we mourn with this family, you'll be recognizing him in a service later this week and both many city representatives there, we wanted to thank Chief Cohen for his service. He was a bokeh pioneer here for more than 60 years, started in our fire department in the 60s, became chief, served multiple stints in Delri Beach, and was always on our planning and zoning board for more than a dozen years where he always offered insightful commentary and insightful questions that I think made projects better. We joined his family and morning his passing. In happier news, we have a whole variety of positive events for our community. Friday we're celebrating Arbor Day. We'll have a volunteer tree planting as we go on our ambitious goal of planting thousands of trees, including providing more tree giveaways for residents and under Mr. Brown's leadership in his goal, trying to find ways for people to be planting trees more along the sidewalks to really create shaded areas. We have a Mayor's Chess Challenge this Saturday at Booker Downtown Library. I am prepared to lose to anyone who wants to play me as I often do, Hopefully this year it's not against a blindfolded opponent. As was the case. And May 7th and 8th and more details will be finalized as we finalize our strategic planning session. We'll be our upcoming meetings and then we'll have a regular meeting at a whole range of Centennial events, which you can find out at bokeh100.com with more exciting news consistently being announced. If there's no further business to come before us, we are adjourned at 850. Thank you and good evening.