two of praise. Call the order. The Tuesday, January 21st meeting of the Keith NBC and EDC. Second, first item is public comment. Any public comment? See, mate? Newer staff. Great. Moving right ahead. I have three A discussion actually regarding the minutes of December 17th, 2024. Regular meeting. Sue, everybody has had a chance to consume the minutes. Any comments, questions are concerned? Great, if not, we have a motion to approve and the grid. All right, so motion second. One second. Great, thank you. Rich. Rich seconds, all in favor say aye. Aye'm great. The next year pass. Item 3V discussion. Actually, regarding council staff and board member reports. Pick it over you again. No, I'm going to kick us off. That was a fun. We had a great ground breaking ceremony on December 19th. Mayors Justin did a great job there and and we had to turn out, I really get back. Oh good, a lot of happy family and to get to that point. The public works facility is on the way. Signage is going on on it that, you know, recognizes your investment in the community and the QR code text into a page to learn more that our lifestyle branding as well. I'll let Aaron chime in here, but the same signage will be ready for the public safety news station. We're getting a bit short. Yeah, so we have issued an RITQ for our contextual service dates and had that deadline that's already passed. We did receive 14 submittals. We have issued an RITQ for our contextual services and had that deadline that's already passed. We did receive 14 submittals. So the chief series and a couple of other folks are going to go through those evaluate those submittals and either select one or select up to three of them. We select one moment for the negotiating contract with them for their services if we select more than line or obviously about to conduct some interviews that will be happening very quickly. The goal is to have all of that complete well within two weeks today. And then we hope that the aim is to the goal is to have the contract ready to present on the Council's agenda. We'll be February 20th. We're tracking the button. And are you all familiar with the location? Any idea of it from the volume? Well, we're going to the mini-core around the Tristan Cross-domarines. That's one of the Cross-domarines. The 1880 location on the opposite side. We can't talk about it enough to plan. I know we did it last month, but everyone wanted to hit the water bridge plan. So, to keep it fresh on your mind when you talk to people. We do get questions in that very frequently. Sure. So, this is a great summer slide right here. We are working on a bridge plan underway. Great and great in them and associates of the engineering firm that's doing a feasibility study for us on the elements of the plan that includes the six water wells, portable water wells, and those would be built in 2025 and 2026 and in addition to the six wells, there's a 1.5 million gallon of carbon storage tank to be built by 2026. Now it's to be located on land, the city of the island by land of land elementary. And at this point, the scope with those elements in it, we're bringing a total storage up to 6.5 million gallons, which is an increase from our current storage capacity of 5 million. And it would also increase the amount of daily water available from a take point, not from a take point, but in conjunction with what we got going to get from our 10 point to 10 to 12 million gallons per day. And of course, that depends on the production of the wells. I we'll have a better sense of how that's going to look like after we get at least one of them up and running. The well in the park is well underway. And when I'm moving on that, as you well know. So is that going to be backed by the tower or are they still putting this one on the over by the water basin? Power backed by the tower or is the question. So we don't need to do the geothermal cooling pool anymore. We don't have the cumbos. It's asked for irrigation. That's something. Remember, right into the out there, but we have to avoid waiting for people that are anticipating what we want very to want to get in the pool. But we do not plan to go in the pool. There will be a treatment, a little small bill, but we equipment, which will be working really well in that general standard. I think we mentioned it last month, but when we took that trip, one of the trips to commerce and that's the size of the hump that was like wow so it's like so and the room is treatment area and the same size of the hump are all cut down they get a lot taller house and they're sure put them these monsters taking a lot of time to get pretty cool Yeah, I did it on there. So I just went and spoke with our working department and got a quick little list of commercial non-residential projects that are underway to so you guys are aware of everything that's happening right now. We're working in a canning middle school edition and remodel. The Clear Sky Rehabilitation Hospital is moving rhythm. They're they're making great progress over there. That's on Horizon Road and South by 49. And just even a little bit further south from that is the San Mel Medical Office Building. And they are currently doing side work on that. The American National Bank, I'm sure you guys are tracking every day the progress going on there. There is a permit then to our office for an atlas station in heat. And I can't speak to the scope or size of that. Right now I haven't seen the plans on that. But that's brand new application that just came in. And then obviously that's the gas company. Yes. That's in the addition to that new service said you know, you know, that's on, and then obviously the work we're very involved daily on the Town Center Park project and as Suzanne mentioned, our public works are slowly rising ground singing. So, what's going on? And that's how we have the turn it over to you. And council. Great. As you may be aware, I, well, I'm free to see discussion actually, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, the city of California, So I think there will be additional discussions in a executive session around that topic. One thing to note is kind of related to both this 3C and 3B is the outside council that we have. Amy's stand fill of the Messer firm is stepping back in her response abilities and she's coming back in her duties. We've been working previously as we start on the 1880 deal with Jeff Moore of Brown and Holthmeister and discussions around his at the ECX Partiz. We feel like he can fully cover our needs going forward. When you put out feelers to all the EDCs that are very transactional, his name is usually at the top of the list in terms of references there. So we feel comfortable. The challenge may be, when you're in high demand, making meetings, hey Douglas, we're just getting warmed up. Is it something, is getting advanced notice on Tuesday meetings that we need in? And maybe being flexible, if we're really working on a real and real deal that needs counsel's presence for that. But as far as reviewing, and the other lot of the activities that we have, I think we will complete confidence in the ability to, y'all spoke with them today and re-iterate that message. Okay. So deal. You said, GCA is particularly challenging because of the scope of their practice. You know, but if we got really down the needs of our projects, you guys must also go into the next meeting to maybe two to five. Yeah. So, And we thank Amy for her contribution. No one finished. She did some good work on 18. Really wrapping hard into the final. At the presentation she was here at the meeting and address the council's questions, including councilman Kraus, but his is very detailed and meticulous, increased into the both agreements. So she gave in confidence, and that went over very smooth, so it's going to get more on this topic in the second session. So moving forward, I will go to the three, agenda item 3D, discussion action regarding strategies to attract specific businesses to reserve. Rich, would you like to throw your thoughts at us? Sure. I'll start out by saying a few months ago, and it's not many months, because this, I am, I'm going to go to that one. A few months ago, I was at a cocktail party and just discussed with different people about what they'd like to see in this, as we had talked earlier as a court, as a board, putting out a questionnaire. And my, just to that was probably probably know, probably every one of us here, those two either a cocktail party or a coffee or whatever, almost every day with different constituents of our city. And we can ask questions, but we can bring it back here. That means that I got one idea and I've got about it. A dozen ideas in my plan of beer, but I have one idea that really kind of hit me because, honestly, I'm very interested in distilleries. So I decided to ask Justin a couple of months ago about the possibility of exploring something like that. And he gave you the okay. And so I started dealing with Susan and came basically did a bunch of research about trying to get this. And I didn't reach out to anybody because Susan told me that's a bad idea right now. But that being said, I've been to a few in my day. And one of the reasons why I thought about a disability is one of the biggest things that any distiller will ever tell you is get in their name brand out there. And there's a lot of distilleries all around the state of Texas. However, you probably never heard. And one of the ways that they try and get their names out is to get people to try their wares, don't you go? So it kind of made me think a little bit about it, but well, there's got to be some distilleries out there that would be interested in something to go along with alcohol is restaurante or something of that nature. Something that might be different than what we already have over the reserve, but also having a tasting room because I don't really like the idea of just having a go-to-vocacy room only, like the idea of Lord food or something to go on. And one of the things that I did my research on some of these places is there may be, they may end up being a little bit bigger, but they're trying to get their name out before distilling, as opposed to what they used to do. A lot of fear of people, it started getting distilled. I didn't know that. But through my research I saw that. And a lot of beer people have restaurants associated with their places. So I didn't necessarily focus my attention on that when I was doing the research. But I kind of highlighted it in my own mind. For instance, I never knew this, the Shiner Boc is getting it. Shiner, that's a big company. And then there's other big companies that are just facilities, garrison brothers, and places like that that do have food associated in their tasting rooms, such as such down where they're at in Austin or you know other places around the even around the metal block. So anyways, I put together a bunch of information for Susan to maybe throw out a blanket question or a for here. And the one thing that I would kind of make me happy about was when I would look at their websites, they were almost all Texas Rustic, which is what we're looking. So, anyways, it's an idea. I don't know if we need, I don't know if I need the permission. If you guys continue to dig into that, get those out, and such like that, but that's kind of one of the thoughts. And then with that being said, I'd also like to just kind of go back and say re-interrate what some of the people that I've had cocktails with or coffee or whatever. And like I said, I've got lists of all kinds of things and my challenge to each and everyone of you is to do the same thing because some things going to hit, some things somewhere and one of the things that I will also say and the last thing that's I'll leave it up and I'll open it up to questions. One of the other things that I see as an issue of this is starting from ground. And Suzanne and I talked about that. Starting from ground, most companies don't have a zip cap for them. So we need to think that way also. But we have a lot of in the overlay, a lot of land that touches the churches and such like that. So we can't think about restaurants at home. We've got to think about some of the cameras too. And again, I'll get to say, I challenge you to never want to do because I'll bet you between the six out of us and everybody else sitting in here. If you talk to people, They give up good ideas. I've got one too and this will be the first one and I'll keep going if you guys are full. Let me have, I didn't mean it was bad idea what you were doing. It was we were in the middle of the holidays season and we don't want'll contact hospitality businesses right now. January will be a great time. It's really excited to help you. And it's kind of like the grassroots outreach we did to try and tweak those liners and all. You know, that good old snail mail, a letter of brochure, get it out, follow that. Because a lot of them hide their emails and all the answer then gets been decent effect. I mean, how do you rate a change in that? I don't think that needs any action at this point in time, but I think we'll go through that. That's right. Texas Highways covers. So, yeah, I've noticed that recently that picture stories are good and about to toss you a lead, and we can collaborate on it. tasting room membership base now if you have a membership The privilege to private membership then you get sales tax The setting is something that fits the with theives that we use for the things that we want very often. I'm a rookie bourbon. I'm more of a wanted shiner kind of guy, but I started to enjoy it and it's just an environment. You know, I can see where people where people aren't in the community, and be very comfortable. And the adult conversations, meaningful conversations and dialogue and professional networking, and you go, oh, that's what we have, we do business. So, yeah. And one thing I will say, I didn't just stay focused on bourbonite, I actually opened it up to a vodka gin and we had a lot of those in the state, too. I didn't know that. I would never guess. Well, to then do we ever think of reaching out to like the middle sized players that are Texas, like Garrison Brothers, would you like to say why you're like dripping of dripping spring that does the bot guy or Okay, there's on the list. That's great because a lot of like Like Suzanne said a lot of these people don't want to have their names out there so to have somebody that you could contact is good I mean there's one of them that I thought was really interesting it was out of black oh I believe it was and I don't even remember the name because I'm a lesbian Then actually had North Texas market, a person that lives up here and goes around and tracks the market their rough. I mean, to me, that's just exactly what I was talking about when I first said it. Hardest thing they can do is get their name out there so that the distributors want to carry their problem. And what better way to get your name out when you're down in South Texas than to come up in North Texas and have a small workplace up here. So. And we could create a synergy with 1880 because they're already down the ground. Here's our, you know. Something similar to what Justin mentioned, what I think the goal was kind of cold peppers with their founders room that that just, it didn't quite, it hasn't yet been remembered as well. It's to have that professional environment where you can have a conversation with, you know, in small bites, but having it in a controlled environment where you're not in a little restaurant, children, and kids and everything. I think there's a lot for in that and they had a little bit of success getting that membership signed up. So I think the combination too, I think it's a great idea. You know, um, whoo, they were to still have a arts town. I think you can tuck you. They do offer not just their spirits there. They actually kind of celebrate the idea of putting their spirits up against others as well. So you can find them alongside and the final partner and I move into the membership side of things where you're generating tax revenue but also not just picking only them to what is offered by that disability and taking them off offering other spirits as well. That would be interesting too. But they've had a huge success and been like taking taking a bar of sounds or injection bars, that was a hell. With that concept of actually not just destroying their own spirits. So that's a good case study that worked really well. Yeah. Which mods? It wouldn't necessarily work on blocks three and more because of the inside of that 300 foot tape. But we think that there is any movement on the concept of like free building, either those like tiny home 850 to 1200 square foot commercial spots that can be rented out or like Little 2000 square foot buildings that you know could either be a single tenor divided into tenons Into that area to attract you to detail that we've talked about More or less for more or less or in form Yeah, I think we've seen as we've gone through this process for the 1880, it's a, it's a big ask for the smaller boutique, high end, sign of players that we want to make it ground up initiative. I mean, they're putting in $2.5 million and complicated bank deal and complicated deal with EDC and they still have to go through the whole permitting process and celebrate it that either night with the accrual, but we're 18 months to two years away before we're sitting and dining there, right? So somebody that comes along that wants to do a boutique retail, they think the wait for two two years. They're going to look at available spots that are available inside the city or they're going to move on to another city. The same with event spots. I mean, it's really big. They ask what's your established, really do a ground up. I mean, they can do a shell buildout. Like if you have the building, I think they're comfortable doing those shell buildouts with three to five months and you bring a contractor in and they kind of do it. But, you know, getting the parking lot put in, getting the building square rectangle built and the initial systems kind of seems like a big aspect. I'm sorry, I'm no You know, we dig nibbles from line arrays on our mailing like we're getting a rip one, but there it's can't do it. I'd love to be here, but they can't do the ground that. And they can't submit to a two year future business plan like that. You know, like they, they would rather drop 100 grand and start generating revenue in five months and drop half a million dollars and generate revenue in five months and generate the drop three million dollars and generate revenue in two words per year. Well, that's always been our biggest hurdle. You know, the grand up proposition. Especially since we're not looking for any change kind of steps. I think that's been the biggest start of we've had. And I don't think that's a bad idea at all if we structured it like not like we're going to be your landlord forever. I don't think we're going to get into that. But more of a standard service thing. Okay, you lease it or. I'm getting great. You lease it for this much time. And we had something worked out for at some point you purchased it. So it's almost like a spec home model. Yeah. But for commercial spaces so we pre-build the shut you know the shelves, stop them at a certain point and then potentially shop those on EGC related deals to get people to come out. The Rockwell Technology Park does some extent, right? They build these huge warehouses with no vendor, and then they use those to attract the commercial entities to come in. This is just saying, you know, we're not looking for big-box warehouses. We're looking for, who's heat retailers that want to come in and make the inside pretty. I don't have no idea what the numbers on that look like or what it costs or how much money we capital we would need to do it but. The bear way fine night out kind of I mean what a good model be like the New York City Christmas markets you know how they. Put up those pop up shells those are true I mean those are true farmers yeah I mean they do a bright park and then you know. I mean, I just came back from Germany. Germany has this model all over the place of all the Christmas parties. But those are, you know, anything's like, you think that they're like little, little shops, but it, but more than not, they're now like tiny homes that they basically rolled in that should be inflation and yeah, shipping containers are inverted and stuff like that. So it's, it's a much more formal kind of thing. And I'm not saying we want like little pop up sand. I think we probably want a little higher quality than that. But concept of, you know, I just look at that a lot and say we can have six to eight free-billed businesses up there that we look to kind of sell off. And we build the two and the first one starts to come in and we can start construction on the third and something kind of like that. And then since you're at your point, we don't look to on them and random because we really don't want to be in that business right? I don't think we want to be in that business. But you know we look to use that as incentives and base that out with me. And those sales then fund doing more of those in other spots to keep attracting the small, we keep retail. And we have some success with that. Maybe we do a larger one, which becomes the med spa or becomes the day spa that we will talk. definitely worth looking into to see what kind of investment investment we're talking about. What would the details look like, which would get something like that? I think it's just looking at the first example of looking at the bottle. This will tell everything right? Yeah, you had an operator partner that you had a developer partner. So they're asking for the same thing is they have have an eventorship ball club. I can't underwrite a million dollar, pull multi-million dollar building on what space and then the developer interest in there, not really a developer, but it's a private investor, acting as a developer, it does, you know, like one of the important business concept, but to make it diversify and make the numbers work. I need leasable space in there as well. So it's going to be a common very all, you know, interested in that. Of course, the conversation said, we need to be complimentary to what the reserve is looking for. So there's, that's where that's probably a push. I heard experience with this restaurant stuff is. um is how to get the scale and the capital to get the next level of businesses in there is something like that and anything outside of reserves you know you develop or everyone tell you the affordances you're restricted in that regard so in order to get the mold and the vision is set that might be the best face. Continue playing. So that's that we start redefining our long-term strategies in the community. You can you know what that looks like. You can demand for excitement. So something consider. But hopefully some of our conversations this evening is also going to connect quite a bit capital. So we put the executive session, but it's part of it's not too far away from the same center. Rich, who's up? Well, in a long as lunch, it's probably one more thing. If we all said that we were really interested in this concept, there might be people who would even come forward and say, hey, the ETC is going to work with me. I'll go about building six of those things and there's some kind of, yeah, preferred, preferred trans deal or whatever. So, after having the conversation, we're going to go like, what people want. Like, we threw out that we're interested maybe a partner to do that kind of thing, but there might be some people that are willing to do that. With how many years did just our 1880s house have? Like, we're close to 7,000 now. Oh, negative comments. I'm not going to move after standing. I'm just going to do it to your point. So I'm going to start to bring this open for business. I'm going to to move. I can't stand me. I'm going to burn it off. Just do it to your point. I'm starting to bring it open for business. You're right. If something like greening this, we need this. We need this. I have specific needs for my business in particular. That was more perfect for those. I love Reethus Boston. I can use that. I know there's a number of other people in this community that can use that. It's just that that jump of developing yourself. You're starting with a four or five million colors to get something out of the ground. Just for me to have a 10 space of 25 hours for a few to then suddenly. So, just in a sense, but if there's some space available like that, I think there's a number of businesses and opportunities that people would love to take advantage. A bunch of the boutique retail things that are up in the downtown Rockwell Square that are all owned by e-thresidence. So I could think of at least four of them out the top of my head that I know that that our heat residents have own, you know, small, 850 to 1200 square foot. Quoting shops, mixed good shops, what not. Some of them have kind of dedicated parking lots and some of them know where actually I'm in the square. So, that's sales tax. Action sales. Well, it's getting a bit of things here. The sales tax and a lot of them actually do be online businesses and they use their physical storefront you a quick update. I'll give you a quick update. Excellent. I was reminded. I think miles and cindy have been. The lasting. The market around the question. Y'all give us a quick update. Have you. Responses there. Okay. Okay. I reached out to a couple individuals just that I knew were in the equestrian, rodeo, horse show space. And I got a few beaters back. One person in particular lives in North Rockville. And he introduced me to his brother-in-law who is in the actual finish-out building barns, metal building, he has no village well, but especially really as barns, the restoring centers and up the lot. So got into conversation with him, told him, you know, this is very high level at this point, but I know this is something that he's considering. Here's the potential land and space that we potentially wouldn't look into doing this at or other areas within the limits. What kind of space would we need? So how much acreage would we need? And economically what does that business model look like? And what did he think was needed as kind of the entry level, the holiday and express type version, not the risk Carlton and not the Motel 6, but the kind of holiday and express version of what would be a single business model. And he kind of came back and sent up huge drawings and stuff that he's worked on. And kind of what he thought most of his stuff is private use. People have a bunch of money on the half-front usage. He's done stuff for counties and fairgrounds and stuff as well. So we kind of put those two ideas together and gave me some rough information. He sent a few drawings over the the guesstimate of pricing what we would need. So he just built a multi-use covered space with kind of a clubhouse and 20 stalls for private individual that ran around 2.5 million. He would think economic wise to make it work, he would probably need up 40 to 50 stallsvers as the 20 solve that you just completed. This could be multiple buildings where you had born even one area and then kind of an event center and the other. And then you got into discussing how you need you know pop up locations if you do have this covered the question center where you need pop Papa, you know, burning this well and kind of discussing that. But he's, he's very clear on the expectation here, there's really no end in this and there's no guarantee for him in regards to what the city will want to do, but he's really, really willing, enable in the to help us and kind of walk through it, discuss the business model, discuss the cost of the projects, what it would cost, what the space would look like, the layouts, the trail system kind of supported. He had a lot of great ideas. So So, preliminary talks there, but he thought that there is a definite need in the area. It would be profitable. You know, and maybe that would look something like a city and private partnership likely to help run it. But the need for it in the area, he thinks it's exponential, and everyone I talk to in the area, thought that there was a huge need for just additional boarding and facilities. There's weightless in every direction you go, and it's almost an invite-a-go any type of situation at this point to get in. He thinks there's a, you know, a huge need for it and would generate. And tax revenue. What's the monthly fee for like a fall? So it varies depending on what you're doing on the boarding in the service, but you're looking at, you know, 12006,800 of the low end for like a turnout, up to 1,200 or kind of a more harmful service still. And frankly, with the waiting list that they got, they could probably increase that if you offered more services. We had, you know, this kind of what he talked is if a viewing area for like the lessons and the question question writing throughout the week that you know younger people would use or even their peer their peer people use You start offering some of those additional services and you know the vet comes there once a month and this that the other If you have a good program and it's a clean facility with newer amenities, you know, $1,200 installs pretty reasonable to expect, which I was surprised. And he's got a lot of information on that. He's really willing to come in at one ABCF and kind of have some preliminary discussions when I'm table up with this discussion. You must have thought through it. You know, if I'm guessing without him saying it, without lane cost, we're probably looking at three and a half million, three to three and a half million a project, but maybe it should see what it looks like on the return on that overtime. But really excited. There's numbers. It's a seven to 10 year ROI with that lender. Which is pretty healthy sort of for business. Yeah. Very, very healthy sort of. But I think it's only a few people who are building. Just a piggyback on that. I kind of. I think I'll just kind of like it email to some questions and. And then in the area saying, we answered these questions. on the EDC and I didn't only got one type of, I'm sure they were thinking, I wanted to build a question. Is there an online order? I know it was a long shot, but I did research all of their online, but they offer and some of them right to $2,200 and $100 a month. You want the next one to see your $60,000 horse once a week, then I mean, this is big money. And the range of these things is huge. I mean, you can have tables, which I learned, you get that's tables, it's not what we're talking about here. It's a different path to different animals together. All the way up to, I mean, these things look like the county fair, Some of these and I did go to one facility it's about 25 tall legs very much. Extremely clean. You have a cab room, a tall facility they didn't they had only one outdoor arena and one indoor arena and then lots of open space. There are a lot of these places, they offer Western-gratting lessons. They offer jessage, they offer jumpers, and they will recruit these teachers. They have one-funkian attitudes that would uplift the jessage runner, mean, the original of the league, recruited her from there. And I mean, this is a much bigger deal than I thought. And I think your right that this area would be good for a week or two in Rockwell County that I did not know about, but I don't think they're on the same level that we're talking about. And that there was all of 75 people from Dallas come out. There's many five, six, 75, Allen, and Kenny Prisko. And then there's time for the Nimbartan Bill Lalloyne, Mississippi, too. They have Wiggen, they have been comming from all of the states. They have T charge things, they have to jump in, and then the big deal, which was surprising. Yeah, these places are pretty impressive. Mr. Poppup Boardings, when there's like an event, if you're going to build the outdoor arena, his stop was the cover of the rear. Yeah, you can do your lessons and this and that throughout the week, you know, to maintain costs and cover costs, but for you to truly generate some true revenue off of that. And there's an e-port of facilities, you know, you would want to have the ability to host these events, to really put you in that great month versus just the day and they are So it so it would be more of a Be a larger show bit But apparently the need for these areas is small And then they have double looking So you go south there's nothing. I mean seven Dallas the rest of these are about the snap When you, you go to Tyler. And next to your next stop, they're stable. But the next something like we're talking about, Tyler. In Perth, he's a ability to own these $60,000 horses to be able to ride and see him as much as you need to, but three hour round trip to Tyler bag. Yeah, I mean, even that's a three hour deal. So yeah, I think. Well, model it out, but I definitely see more traction than I originally thought. Good deal. Now, at third whispers, they will to catch up with Brian and have a little workshop on this for the next steps. Yes, I failed to get into that time. But I'm pretty open. I think Mr. Cole is completely open. You know, just give him some ample. I doubt he's happy to come in and just kind of lays on to deal and question. He enjoys. Okay. Anything it's me that the city would consider it. And so he's all more than that regardless just because he likes the space obviously in go when you would love to be able to build the project but like he's interested and excited that that's even an option that the city's considered. You know, every spot for sale, I don't know is it, Laura? What is it? We're just going for sale on fire, we don't. So I don't know commercial realtor, but I'm going to see if I can find a commercial realtor. What is this ability to, you know, well, go ahead and listen, how much are they to for us? City is an operating facility. Okay. I should be that sensitive to that. Okay. I understand that today. Great. On that note, I would look into if we have it, if we reach out to the little form. I have a list at home. You're not down familiar. Where are they? some point. Okay. So there in heath as you're going south down to one, so she did a show, some interesting Facebook group in that area. The mayor saw where she posted in close group, lesser ass, and people jumped on her for that. And so he kicked that over and we tried to try to connect it and make her a business so that we can people love it. And she DMs us back. Happy. So if anybody's seen it, do we know what that means? The pictures look nice, but I can't keep up with them. Again, we'll apply them. If you, you know me tomorrow, I'll get you to I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. I'll get you. So I would probably recommend reaching out to anybody that is local so we'd make them or the dial or the other thing I would say is food. These are just secondary, which I love, the things you're talking about as far as research. Looking into, uh, O point is a very huge city. They're also not heavily developed out, but they have a full a low club. Where's that? We've seen that. It's a sound of so we want to know, Prosper, West. Okay. My leg. You know, it's a bit. No point. No point. Super interesting. We've seen that a polo club. If you ever go out there, it's like just open fields. I was like, why is this so beautiful? Yeah. You have a term in corn and you're like, no, it's a polo club. It's multiple fields. I have some statements. Super interesting. I'm told that they are subsidized with secondary universities. So that was interesting. And then so probably versus that's a polo club. It's like Tech Headlongs, Polo Club, college kids. Yeah, they're all in the club. That's a sense of, three to five million dollar seasons is what they're spending on four players. It's called Sreshtonwood College. Yeah, that's the one the club in the other point. And then just for sheer research to your point, look at, I don't know how it's pronounced. Is it Narco, Norco, California? Oh, yeah. Are you guys? They are a period claim to think that there's like over 20,000 horses in this town, Southern California. Their trails are made up of literally horse trail. What do you forgot? They're having donals and it's a ride to re-experience. Anyway, it's only for research for curious, when I found it, I was would have key points of what they, just to be able to see what it's like. It's a very interesting stuff. Anyways. I think you've seen it all the time. I reached out to two. I found two, I think two or three of them. I reached out to two, one in California, one in Utah, that there was actually a private city partnership in something like this. I'm one of them seeing much more stable like and just like a barn, kind of turn out on your own. And the other one in Utah is a much nicer I had a partnership to do it seemed like it was working well. I did see that, you know, just the thing about one thing in my mind is time goes on is all of a sudden it fences start to peel. Or, you know, if you're seeing them root at the place that when it was started, which is beautiful, then the up and down in the E-Key, you know, a more spacious place or something. But it, done right, it can be incredible, and there are plenty of places to do it and some of these that were just mentioned are communities built around the concept and the demographic here. So let's try to make it just cool. So Willow Farm, Adrex, 1582, I think 74. No, it's north of L lend a line. It's in Coffley County. No, it's going down. Okay. It's not far down. It's not far. And does this person already offered its staff the little farm? Hmm. Is she been offering her or she's cranking it up? I mean, been in the community alone. Some of this work with her. I think she did. She's cranking it up. First we asked her, hey, if you're in heat, then ETJ, DMS, if you have these services, but we did not hear from anybody else. She's a little big. As we say, it's the prop, this is properly I think it is. It just recently bought that. And because it wasn't pretty bad to trigger her. How much land it to the Canadian? I don't know how far back, you know, it was good. You can see it right off the, I was like, hmm. Then I don't know if anybody knows anything about it, not, maybe a piece of work, or just that that was, tucked away back there, according to Roger. Well, since we've been doing, 15, I mean, just looking at our Google Maps, and how to obtain your source checkmate, is that our AT&T share, where do you think? I mean, you can use your AT& the moment. I mean, Tanger's right here. I mean, Tanger. We want to go. This thing is something. What is this? They say that they're 10 acres. 10. The little farmers from near the forest for intranium riding facility located in the decaxins. We offer full care for small sports for intranium and 10 acres. we specialize in training for the English disciplines of their social centers, shelters, and even... Chaginators, back there. Certainly. I should have a person do many things. No, we don't want to say it. Hey, we'd like to repeat the history. For people who are ill, we must say, we must do a model. Well, we didn't, she's asking for support support so we can certainly guess the information, understand the man in marketplace, start to be thinking about that. Very tough. So so all fact finding as we develop strategy. Now, let's like it's two separate tracks. Again. Okay, so workshop coming up. We'll paint little farms and maybe some of the other names and keep going. Good deal. All right. All the improvements. Looking good. I think the property directly behind that will apply to property will will exit to. That's the part coming out of the backside of issue. Yeah. Okay, let's let the do so I keep rolling. 3F update in discussion regarding 1880 destination restaurant project in the reserve. The last Tuesday evening after the fire looks around the very proper and other agenda items. We have a great discussion with council and presentation around 1880. We went through the deck that was in your packet, started off and just gave a little history to council on the EDC mission, history of the reserve, and what we were trying to do until projected economics of the project and then stand and agron stepped up to the mic and covered the conceptials in there. It was impressive. And then Mike drove it home with a great discussion around the terms of the mixed agreement and our incentive agreement. We took a few minor questions from Rich, around the. Does any of the law was prepared to handle a few other nuances? Outside of that, I think the council was extremely supportive and voted unanimously to improve the deal. So great presentation. We're excited. They were in production by his board for Great presentation by Maria Zonz. Chair. Thank you. It was a wonderful presentation. I am the way that the professional, but this body shows a capacity of being able to express those lives as I saw this. So. So thank you guys. More than one, it's just a lot of experience such a good job. Just the appreciation from the council on how you were student with us and it was awesome. Yeah I think that they, The council was very receptive to the fact that we had really thought through downside city risks and made sure that kind of been, you know, if things were to go sideways or backwards that the, that there were the protections in place for the field and the real struggle here in really city and for the EDC. And I think that we probably had better, I think we have better protections on this than prior deals. And so I think that was very well received. And could us for all three of you who are weathering that long? We've been in the way of the very good thing. You guys see all kinds it. You know, it's the author. That's a man who's very longer here. We all left a little after midnight. They were so going. You know, from Mike's comment on risk management is what, and then you talk about the quantitative returns where you, you read in the paper about these messages handouts that say he cities give. Oh, gone. Whereas on the, you know, the adjustments after the rent adjustments and went to market so you can get a good feel for the little projections of our views. Being a steward of the cities in our citizens capital. But at the same time, I'm doing that in a way that doesn't hand up or, you know, hurt the business's potential. I think that was really the key, right? So we met 1880s needs, and I think we were able to work with them on ensuring that our needs were met and came up with something that they were agreeable to as well. So, this week, Kim, by helping them scale in the first few years without seeing the concerns of the capital or what, this is what helps to scale up the ground. Well, you get the same goal. You think about this process too, it was the stand being the goal between the board and the entrepreneur. We haven't seen a liaison on the prospects side that was able to keep everything moving deeper responsive from the United Respons. And I think that's moving forward as we're giving advice to new prospects, that might be something that we keep in mind as, anyway, you know, just as with a model that worked well, you have somebody like us who's familiar with all the aspects of the project. That's a really good point, because I think he was able to tell them oftentimes, this is something we need to care about versus something. This is something that the city cares about, but we don't really care about. And I think that coming from kind of a trusted component and not coming from us was really instrumental to keep it alive, keep it moving. He was able to review a lot of the contracts up to and just as I, I don't, you know, none of these paragraphs matter, but we're going to focus on, and care about getting it right on these couple spots. Are you, you know, he, you just stalled out at different points in previous processes, the products, there's a lack of expertise on that, on the, not to scoop that, I mean, I don't mean that, you know, as an ugly kind of critique at all, we just on our side of the table, we have a wide range of expertise that can speak in to the process. And when you're working with them,, the private industry like that is more difficult. Do you think that long term are having eight percent fill that role that maybe you can see and provide as that way alone makes sense? Are those any projects? That's the needs. It seemed to work. It's coming out based on that. I. As far as what your branch or the reason you are in done. What's your work? What did you tell the work out there that it did work? If. If that wrong is working and willing, and trying to fill that business plan, collaborate with us and run his business. That's a very good one. to go back and forth. I think the quick high level is there's a few legal agreement things still being finalized and the hope would be those contracts go back to them within the next couple days. I think they're most there. So any of that last question can be finally pitched them with minor tweaks. So his instance and Agron's hands for their council to review for everything discussed. It puts the council meeting so hopefully most obviously executed. That's where we are. It's time to put it to paper. and I'm just, you know, I spoke to you. And it was nice. I have souls willing this to accept the agreements pending the changes that they requested as well. That allows us to not have to go back for another meeting and things will end up like you, which is a big. That's a great scientist. Yeah, that was because you and Justin Build every hole and stitch up every channel that makes the difference right there Thanks, and we did there's a lot of due diligence behind the scenes because there is expectations There will be a lot deeper questions perhaps and Conceptual Good as man. Thank you. Everybody involved. All right. Okay. Number four executive session in accordance with Texas government code chapter five on one. Some chapter five board will recess and executive session close meeting to discuss the following four dot a sections 551.072 and 551.087 of the Texas government code to deliberate regarding the purchase exchange lease for value of real property and commercial or financial information of city has received from the business prospect and to deliver it to the author of the financial or other incentive to business process. So at 630, we will convene into executive session. I want to make it time. Let me find the agenda. Okay. Okay. All right. So at 807 will re-communicate open session. In accordance with the Texas government code 5, chapter 5, 5, 1, the board of re-communicate regular session. Consider action. If any, on matters discussed in executive session. There being no matters meeting. Consideration. We will adjour the meeting tonight, the 8.07. Thank you.