Development authority to order. And looks like we'll start off tonight with the Pledge of Allegiance. If everybody is staying. A Pledge of Allegiance is to provide a very nice space for American people. And to do it with the public for the Holy Spirit's sames, modernization, under God, and invisible, the liberty and justice for our people. for which it stands, one nation under God, and the visible, with the liberty and justice for our honor. And now while I remain standing for a moment of silence in recognition of U.S. military serving abroad and our local EMS services. Thank you and please me see. All right, so regular session. We'll have approval of the board's meeting agenda. Do we have something to add to that? I'm just on either side of the closed session or personnel please. All right. So with the addition of a closed session, personnel matters. Do I have a motion to approve the tonight's agenda? Some move. Do I have a second? I'll second. All right. Call for a vote, Mr. Wood. Aye. Mr. Kendrick. Aye. Ms. Fall. Aye. Mr. Marfi. And although, aye is well. Uh, meat agenda is approved. So now I greatly appreciate our economic development authority meeting with us tonight. As a grace we're trying to do this with with all our committees and authorities that we can to help improve communication. And with that I'll turn the floor over to you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'd like to call the EDA meeting to order. And you received the agenda earlier this week. Are there any additions or corrections to it? Do I hear a motion to approve this presented? So, Mr. Chairman, will you approve? No, you're second. I'll vote for Senator Faf's saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Okay, thank you. And I'll sort of like to point out that we've got Dallas Cummings joining us by Zoom also. Doug, we appreciate Dr. Gentsley for all of us to get together and talk about this and see if we can come up with some joint ideas and direction for both groups and that's going to be in the best interest of the county. And with that, I will turn it over to our county administrators. Since that's your big morning too. So I want to say thank you all for coming together tonight. I think these joint meeting work sessions will be really beneficial to the GVOL and the county as a whole in the long run. So, we're going to cover a lot of rounds now. We're going to try to keep it to two hours. But we have Liz Popeye and David Dina with us tonight. They've been working with our Economic Development Department and Heritage Department, called on us to identify assets of Patrick County, also opportunities for Patrick County. So they'll shed some light on some ideas they have. James McHorst will talk about some of his vision as a new director. But the biggest thing is, you know, as a former director of economic development to localities before having the elected officials and the appointed officials direction and vision is so important. In economic development, we say it tastes a village. You know, James can't do it by himself. More should be do it by himself, right? be, you know, by himself, right? And so tonight we really need, after you hear the presentations and so please just think about, yes, we like this. This is the way you want to go or know we want to avoid this. And over time, we'll have a collective unicod vision hopefully and give him kind of his martial art for the next couple of years and And we can start shipping away at the, you know, the big thing which is economic development. Elizabeth Houghborn was a river of lead group. She's had her 30 years of experience, private and public sector. She's worked for Virginia's economic development partnership and really specializes in rural communities. She's been a friend in a mentor of mine over the last four or five years. We're very lucky to have her working with us. She's very familiar with the region. Like I said, specializes kind of in rural, which is helpful. They've been getting another consultant that's working with us a background and a lot of background in marketing and consulting work with international and domestic companies. So between them, you know, 70 years from the existing here, he's not going to make the full-of-the-thing, but, and then, what? Living Green, our regional director is supposed to be here, we're trying to see what that is, we have to change the agenda a little bit. Once again, she's got 30 plus years of experience, private and public sector, you know, working at the federal state regional level. So we have the one thing that we have, as we want help, like I said, it takes a village. We have a lot of people who are willing to pigeon and help us with this vision and direction. We don't have to do it alone. If anybody's ever thought we've got to figure this out by ourselves, we don't. Once again, more should we. We're completing competing in a global economy. We're competing with, when companies are looking, they might start looking internationally, and they're going to be out to national, and regionally in state. And so we really can't do it in one. And so that's why we're lucky to have, lucky to have these people who've been around the lot a little bit, and to help us move forward with this. So I think James just has to count for a second. All of this goes. First list is something I kind of talked about why economic development. Do you think how are y'all doing? I hope everybody has been a preventing, right? So you stomach's a pull of your last two months. I just gave that very first slide. So I'm going to introduce this cell first so that you get used to my voice. I'm not contagious. I'm not. And it's a little bit rough to understand it. I'm not anxious. But if any of you follow politics, you might defer to Bobby Kennedy talk about supporting or ignoring him, but his voice sounds like mine. Or Diane Reem with Public Radio has a voice like mine. It's an neurological condition and it causes my vocal cords to do it as a spasm. So my voice sounds crackling. Point of all that is, not good dangers. Please, can the person in me just ask me to re-achieve whatever I'm saying? The EDA folks know this because they heard about the spits of months ago. So, you have that word to lay up? Okay, here I have. Okay, here we go. So, I want to kind of set context of why, let's say you could go back one. Why do you want to think of economic difference? What does it matter to you? What does it matter? This is What does it matter to the citizens who showed up here to hide? And I think too often, we in the public sector walk away from what economic development is really all about. And at the end of the day, it has a lot to do with money. And that's okay. This country has capitalistic society is a country. But the important thing here is that your work, your policy that you said, your vision that you said will help create the climate for tax revenue to the county, just for public safety, libraries, parks, sidewalks, that contemporary development. You need that tax revenue. Companies need to have a competitive, a student business so they can make a profit. Everybody is profit for their stockholders, for their shareholders. That's a good thing. Your citizens need economic development. So the important opportunities with good wages, good pay, so that they can start to create wealth within their own families. So at the end of the day, it is about the money that economic development is about profit for companies, in country citizens and road to full of calorie, who have to provide services to make this great place to live. Your opportunity is not to make business decisions for businesses, so I'm sure some of you are business owners, some of you are employees, you know that as a county supervisor or an media member, you're not going to make a cash decision for a company. Company's gonna be a decision about Patrick County. That company though, you want to be a company who does more than just locates in your community, you want them to be a good corporate citizen. You want them to participate in sponsor a little league stuff and they help look at the great downtown and make this place that citizens want to live. So when you think about that first bullet to create a climate where jobs can be created where capital investments from businesses can occur, you're creating the climate. And when business owner or decision maker looks at this county She wants to know who was your vision for yourself What do you think you want to be in ten years? What do you want the county to look like to feel like to operate like If you cannot collectively and with these citizens have a very clear vision statement then as a business owner I feel that my business might be a little bit of risk because that's no work room. I'll tell you where I'm going as a business owner but if you can't tell me where you're doing, can't let me, it's a risk of fear for me, and that makes you less competitive. So I can develop that. It's about money, but it's also out your leadership in how you set the climate for business and make decisions to come here. That makes sense. Oops. All right. I'm not sure if it is's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. That's a good example. First of all, my name is Jane Sauches. I thank you to everyone of you all for going out. This afternoon is well too. So economic development. It is the process by which emerging economies become advanced economies. Of course, in other words, the process by which it can't erase the living standards to a higher living standard. Economy, economic development also refers to how the general population overall health well-being and academic level improved. The Cambridge dictionary has the following definition of the term. The process in which an economy grows or changes will become more advanced especially when both economic and social conditions are improved. With that definition, my goal as the Director of Economic Development and Tourism is clear. I'm seeking opportunities to grow and advance our community and in doing so improve our social conditions. Tourism is critical. There's a critical component of economic development. And I'm committed to ensuring that it benefits our entire county. Not just tourism but manufacturing and retail. You all can assure that community improvement is at the heart of our initiative. I hope we can begin the conversation with these two key entities tonight. Your input and collaboration are not just important, but it's integral and crafting and initiating processes for that growth. Your perspective and expertise will help shape our strategies. So the vision that I want coming into it, and I know a lot of people again was concerning that it looked like I was taking on two jobs. But I don't see it as being two jobs. I see it being one single job to where that we know that tourism is economic development and right now it's probably one of our biggest ones outside of the manufacturing that you're seeing that we have in my slide later to talk about it. But what I want to do here is is I want to hear all of you all, or at least hear from us, and to be able to help us scrap that vision. It lives just mentioned it is about the money. But we gotta be careful that when we do craft this vision, or when we are thinking, that we're thinking not just short term, but long term too, for the growth of our community. And again, it's not just about growing from growing, say, but it's about thriving. It's about putting those things in place that can help us grow. We know that one of the biggest things we have here is a link. And we're going to talk about some of the properties that you already made know about. But again, we need the infrastructure. We need those things and some of those key components already put in place for us to do. But I want all of you all to at least be at the table together so that as the economic development director here for the county going forth, not am I just dealing with the EDA aviation is, but we can rest assured too that the board of supervisors understands what we're trying to do and we're driving to do. Because again a lot of times it's been a lot of, he said, she said, and sometimes those things just doesn't work out. When one assumes that this is what this one's gonna do and one assumes that that is what someone else is gonna do. So hopefully tonight, with the partners that you see here with us, Lee isn't, and David, who has been mentoring me and I'm very thankful for that, that we can get that vision going. We won't get it all worked out tonight, but again, marching orders. What is going to be relevant? What is going to be obtained? We can start off with, they say, the low hanging fruit. That's fine. Everybody likes the wind. But we should be doing stuff just for a quick wind. We should be doing it that we know we're putting the right mechanisms in place so we can continue to grow. I'm very thankful again. Linda will be with us tonight. She's another very good regional partner. We have been doing a lot with Dan Ville, Warren's Ville Floyd and Franklin. But again, just listening to their presentations, I'll come back, I'll make my presentation, and then that hopefully will get all of your wheels turned. Just say, hey, this is really what I wanna see happen in the county, and we will try everything we can to put those initiatives in place to grow the county, not just for my children or my grandchildren, but my grandchildren's grandchildren. I'm a lifelong Patrick County. I take this job with passion. I take this job with a serious and out playing on leaving the county. It's not about the money. It's about a health. I want to be a servant to the county but I want to see the county grow. All right, so at this time, we're very thankful. Yes. Yes. We have Mrs. Linda Green who will come next. I don't know if you're doing okay. Thank you all. Thank you. I'll take questions, comments, and criticisms after statement. But I'm going to tell you, I made a critical mistake of going up the mountain to see the road construction and I'm going to talk about it all over our area. I'm going to have to package because it's the greatest it has. Now it's really because it's the materials that James and I use on a regular basis. Just to kind of talk to you about what's around you, an economic development and how we work together as a region. Thank you. So, just putting a presentation up, and I'm going to go really, really quickly on this. It's not like you're not going to talk to the folder and what we're doing. A little package there is a presentation. And if we're in not, put it this gets up or not. I want to talk to you a little bit about how we all work together. She's getting it out this was big. This would be how we can all get to the outside world. And how Patrick County shows up when we do this marketing and want someone for us to work together on this. So when we work together, this is the presentation that we would be given in industry that's looking at the region. And at the point that they come, they may not have said what they need exactly. We're still talking to them in general. So this is a regional presentation. In the middle, and you can go right ahead, that's great. We're in the middle of one of the top states for business. It's been ranked as the top state for business four times in the last few years by CNBC. When you look at where we are, There is accessible, affordable and skilled. You draw that radius around us. We're at a great location to walk in up the area. Next one, we showed in the highways. We showed in the larger cities that they have recognized. The airports, your airports are usually going to be the North Carolina airports. We talk about rail. We talk about all the access to the port of Virginia. We talk about 58 and pretty soon we'll have a much better story of 58. Okay, next slide. But this is the one I want to show you. This is the heat map of the United States and when we think about our challenges, we forget how populated the Eastern part of the US is. When you look at that 60% of the US population lives within a one-day drive up. So when James's market in Gua, I would have come here because they're accessible to other customers in a shorter period of time. You look at that 60 minute drive time, 715,000 employees in a 60 minute drive time. And I'm going to show you one in a minute that you probably have never thought about. Next slide. This one draws a radius. But reason it's dandled, that's the middle of our region. But we do these maps over all the time. We'll do them with Patrick in the center. We'll do them with Halifax in the center. What you'll see on those four circles is what's really different about us. We're a world circle in the middle four metropolitan areas. So you've got Raleigh Durham, Greensboro, you've got the Rhonda area and the Lynchburg area around us. Our laborship can attract from those surrounding areas. So that's unique. So looking at those populations again our labor force in that circle, 715,000 versus 241 in Lynchburg. So probably when you were thinking about it, you're thinking about Lensburg being larger than us. We think about our labor shed because of the four areas around us were much larger and less rural than we think. Next slide. We always highlight some of the key assets around us. This one is done because we've got the Virginia International Raceway race this weekend, typically people stay at Primo and drive to that race from around the country. So you've got people going back and forth through 58. We will market to all the people there telling them about this corridor and put so special about us. And when you look, you see all the universities around us, the different resources for automotive industry. So let's just say you had somebody that wants to start building a specialty race car. What better place than to do it right here? So that's an example of something we would share next time. This one takes then all of the automotive ecosystem that they would need to supply to and show them how within a one-day's drive they can get in the classrooms. Okay, next slide. This one takes different announcements in our region for 2017 today and looks at what sectors they were in. So our performance manufacturing, environmental and life-size, advanced materials, professional services and IT. So when we did those, you see the job counts and the companies that came into the region. All of this is not in Patrick County, but all of this is in this region. It includes the ten eggs, the pro-anth and other announcements that you all have made. But it puts us together as a region and shows what our capabilities are. And there you can see it's very diversified. If you looked at the highest by jobs, it was in the Hocker Points manufacturer. But look at environmental life sciences, which would be where your wood products and food and beverage came. That's highest-body capital investment that was made. So each one has its advantages. Next slide. This is the growing international companies that are coming to the regions. So you see, that's growing and increasing the amount. Next slide. Workforce, this is the magic and why you're coming here. Why they want to be attacked by some surrounding areas next slide. We've got a volunteer tier of courage and I know I saw Rhonda and Greg here shortly, so when you're looking at the workforce partner's rowdy, you're looking at them and they're looking at this area. We've got a unique approach to education that some areas in the state don't hang out. Some areas across the nation don't hang out. That's starting with middle schools. The students are in the data tech programs so they're starting to get skilled training there. In the high school, they've got the dual enrollment so they get starting to get skilled training there. In the high school they've got the dual enrollment so they get credits at the college level when they're in high school. Your school system is one of the best in the state. You know that well and past years, what eight out of ten years you've been in the top ten, that's unheard of. I can tell you, when we look at our region, we look at Patrick County Schools as the deep in the top 10, that's unheard of. I can tell you, when we look at our region, we look at Patrick County Schools as the beacon of excellence. We look at Patrick County's beauty, the most beautiful county we think in the state of Virginia. And our whole region claims those same things. So, what are you doing outbacks or what are you in Patrick, you've been through this same story. When you get to the college skills, we've got unique programs. You've got some of the best programs that skills trade in the world. And when I say that, we've had companies go back to their countries and try to implement some of the programs they're seeing in their middle school and younger age groups. And then advance manufacturing and technology design goes all the way to the center for the nades in your region for center of additive manufacturing and they are now doing training for the Department of Defense in the region. That is not just led in Daniel where it's located. Greg Hodges and Patrick and Dean of Community College were a big part of the developments that are there. So we don't think about this because one location or one program, we think about it as assets. But James can tell every day, because it's things that your companies can draw from next time. We do every year a survey and we go within a radius around our region. That 45 miles for hospitals and for continuing technical schools and then we go 75 miles for the next layer. We go two hours for universities because typically you can attract two hour radius for an engineer and student or somebody at a university. When you look at these numbers, if you're comparing this to a major metronome in the U.S., you're going to find a really good strong technical skill here. If you look, you've got almost 6,000 students in that work for Shandai Kwan. This one was drawn around Dandle. I can draw it around Patrick. I can draw it whichever way. But we gather that said that whenever you need those numbers to show across that, we can get James what he needs on this. When you look at the engineering from your universities, that total comes to 15,000 students. What happens when people think about just one county, they think about one high school or one school system. You've got a region to draw from, not just one school system, putting those numbers together and saying, and our school system is the best among all that we're representing. Then you've got a special story to tell. Next slide. This is how we recruit and show them all the colleges, all the engineering students as no matter what company you're trying to attract. They're going to want to know if they get the right borders here. And then we're going to show them the advanced programs and that slide. It won't stay in that time. But we're going to show up some of the accelerated programs for the Department of Defense advanced programs and net slide. It won't stay in the entire afternoon. We're going to show up some of the accelerated programs for the Department of Defense that we're doing in the region and net slide. But we're going to show them Patrick County specific. We're going to show them the following you live and the beauty here and slide. Following the broad workforce skills, those things are incredibly important to look. So this is a slide showing some of the workers and workforce skills. Next slide. We're going to show them sites. So decisions that you can make and things you're going to work with the county administrator and economic developer with David and with Liz are going to be, what do we need in these sites to attract companies? Do we not grow and accept what kind of growth? As a region we've decided to focus on higher skills, something that's above the prevailing average wage, so that it's bringing in a higher gross domestic product to you all. What does all that mean? It means that it's the pay more on the tax. It means that instead of the citizens having to bear it all, that it would be shared by industry. So this is some of your industries but up in the top right hand corner is where I would focus or James would focus an awful lot and that's your rich, rich, corporate farm. Next slide. We're gonna talk to them about the amenities there, the fact that it's near water, the size of the graded pad. We all work together to get certifications on these sites. You have a tier 5 pad site. That's the highest in the state. That means it's ready for a company to invest in tomorrow. All the engineering studies initially have been done, but is there more that could be done? Absolutely. We also, when we did that study, looked at the analysis of what you need to raise the utility infrastructure to attract a higher level wage, higher machine intensive company. So all of that's in the reports and studies, but all of these were decisions that you all have to make on a regular basis. And I know they're not simple. One of the things I hear a lot is that it's not evenly dispersed what comes to which areas. Which jobs come to Patrick County, which jobs come to D'Angle, why is one do it better than another. I'm from Titsett County, I've lived here all my life. I've watched for the last 20 years as they made investments. And boy, I could tell you that 20 years ago, when they started their investments, it was not a good story. It was not a good financial book, it was a super-biasisvisors 4 City Council at that time. So I'm going to show you a little bit more of your barefoot. Keep going. This is where we're putting what's there and what you could attract. Keep going. Your pad side. OK, next. Then we've broken it up to where it could grow. Where it could be. Keep going. keep going. Then this, the gateway to the Blue Ridge Parkway, this is the way we talk about it, that's beautiful County and our region and in the commonwealth. Next slide, again the beauty of the area, the quality of life. Next slide, we have a site called SoberIVA, or we put all these things together, said that anybody can go on this site and see what's within a one-day drive, what's within a short distance that we do all the time. What are the festivals, what are the things going on in next slide? These are different operational resources that we use together. So that's a sample of all the programs and services that we can access together to support James and Sam's on this. Next slide. These are partnerships that have been formed across our region. Next slide. Regional efforts, this is where it starts to change. We have done workforce summits. We'll be doing the third one together. Last year, Patrick County School Superintendent was featured as the best school in our region. But it's probably beyond that. It's grant money's how you could access and how you could get better. Rod and I here, he's been part of every year. One of the things we've done is the workforce pipeline report said that anybody can use that and see where the schools are. How excellent librarians are here and how they can throw employees. But beyond that, we've done housing summits. We'll be doing a third housing summit this year. Since the housing summit started started the region has grown And this is over this will be the third year 5,348 million is that evenly dispersion rate because it starts with the idea that you need more Housing and building the infrastructure, but also the discussion how did you get grants? how did you get funding, how did you do this, what were the needs, and where do you do it, and where do you not do it, because people don't want the growth. And look at it that strategically and carefully. We've done a joint wage and benefit analysis for our lawyers. Many other things, you'll see the list, but we're going to move forward. Marketing, we do joint site consultant trips, that's visit to the people who locate locations for companies. We call trips and you see many other ways that we attract them. Go do these to attract companies to the area, the website, sector analysis and site site consultant work probably the most involved, but the next slide. While we're doing it, this is the regional housing numbers that I've mentioned. Since we started doing this as a region, you can see 1,112 new multifamily units and 912 single-family townhouses. 31 projects under construction. This goes 45 mile radius again. So this is picking up some evens, some reads book, some Rocky Mail. So you've got some around us as well as what's immediately here. But if you're talking to an industry what you want is for them to live here and make a difference in your county. So we're also looking strategically at how we get to do that and not going to move on. This one is a housing video. I'm not going to stop and show you that for a second. But now we're going to re-apply. We're going to be trying to get our new ones over there. But I want you to know it's there. I'm the portion that will be just Patrick County so that when James comes to the House of Summit is that something just from your area. These are the impact metrics of the jobs and growth. So this is the main thing that we track, along with the growth- the breast domestic product changes. The reason I gave you this big folder was not because it was unprecedented, took years and years to put all this together. But I'm the father of these flyers, and I'm pulling out the one, the tallest one, hyper-fueling manufacturing, because it's likely we want to try to attract into the rich creek park. And you look at the back and look at the closed domestic product. That's how much more value add is coming into your account when you make these decisions. And now I'm going to show you a couple more things. Okay, going. This is the megaside in considered account. This megaside is only about 35 miles from here. So when you look at this site, 3,528 acres, one of the first things they say is we also need places for our suppliers. Some of their suppliers want to be at least 30 minutes away. And that's for strategic reasons. So they're not taking from them. In some cases, they have more than one company they're working with. In that case, we're automatically showing them Patrick County, showing them how effects County, showing them the entire region. So every time somebody looks at this and they look at the quality of why, they see the pictures of the freeest county and their commonwealth. They see your side along with the side that can save the county, that's something that they could target. Now their model for this is that they wanted at least a thousand jobs and at least a billion dollars in cash. But how do you get there? They've got over 260 million invested, but it took 15 years to get to this point. So what I want to say is that what you are doing is the work of God because for a board of supervisors where ADA to recognize that these are long-term investments to make a difference for a county. It's a hard hard step to make. But I wouldn't be fortunate enough to stand here and tell you the story. Had it not been for some very wise people who made hard decisions. I'm going to go to the next slides. This is another virtual tour of that megacype for you all that I'm going to link with you next slide. This is their investments and what they had to do in studies to get the site ready next slide. This shows you the two-minute and nine that was invested and how it was invested next slide. This is the site itself and the kinds of companies that they're targeting. Next slide. This is the utilities around it. So this is a business map. This is the kind of work with Rich Creek where we're looking at 25 acres or we're looking at 3,528 acres. We want to be able to tell the same story. We want to tell how we've limited the cost, the risk and the money that a company would have to put out to immediately move there and start to pay into your tax rolls. So that's what you're looking for. The next slide. This is the city of Deanville's slide. You all know, all of us remember what it was like 20 years ago when Dan River was closing, 17,000 employees at Dan River and they shut those doors, 15,000 of them were marked in Danville. The city was crippled, so it's taken a many years to build back and still they're refreshing and I want to show you some of the things that they made strategic decisions. This shows you they've invested now $50 million, but that's over 20 years. That's not over one year, it's a long hard break. When you look at that, now they've brought in 310 million of private investment into their community from that investment. So you feel pretty good right now looking at how you've brought in that investment. Before 20 years ago I bet that City Council member was taking a really hard position when they decided to do this. Next slide. This is the only and never-fabriced building that's kind of the anchor and all of them probably have seen that right on the river and you have many of them between here and there. This is what the redevelopment plans. Many by this dream have gone the last six months. It's a touch of different perspective. But boy did that tag some strong strong border supervisors city council, EDAs and that gave to take decisions around this thing. They're getting off module and excellent. They're adding water parks and amenities. I'm not telling you this because now tourism's been brought back into the city of Angelo. You all have brought tourism back in here. It's an intricate part and the development and growth. I can't bring in a single manufacturer if I can't show them they would would want to live that it was. So all of these things are tied intricately together, but you've got to look at what that profit would be and what the tax base is for you. Next slide. This is another one. This was another Dan River building. And they're actually three towers, but once blinded by the other one, you can next slide, you see Caesars controversial. Do you really want to Caesars or do you not? But there's strategic decisions that are before you all as to what you want to be, where you want to go, or decade decisions. Right now, I just saw a program that was put on by the Virginia Department of Tourism. It ranked Southside Virginia and was including you all in this all the way over to Frank Ruff's territories with Mecklenburg in that area. The top area for Hotel Worth in profit to the localities in the state of the Southside Virginia. I mean did you ever think we would hear that again? It was up against Northern Virginia and it's really been struggling. But to see Southern South Side Virginia as number one and bringing in that, we eat hotels across the area. So seeing that, working as a team, sharing our stories and helping each other is what we're about. I'm really proud to get to help represent this area. I put you some of the fact sheets, some of the information that's here, it's all available for bad for James and for the team. But one, importantly, I'm going to tell you how much I appreciate what you all are doing sitting in your hot seat. I know it's hard, but I'll live to your mind to our life. And I think it's the greatest but I'll live to your mind, our life, and I think it's the greatest place in the world to live. I think it's our job to make sure that you're my question for our citizens through wise decisions that you all make. And I thank you for doing that. Questions? Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you, Linda. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. I introduced our speakers earlier but I did introduce all of our other partners that I kind of kind of ensured those but it's anyway. But we have Shirley Dottson, so Virginia Economic Development Partnership. So she helps us with retaining our existing businesses primarily and helping our businesses expand. She has a lot more things, but that's kind of our primary thing. She covers this region, Robby Knight, the Fort Forces here, got Rhonda Hotties and Greg Hotties from Patrick and Henry Community College. She's not related. And she's not related. All right. from Patrick and Henry Community College. She's not related. And, well, Whitney, I'm not going to put you to your last name. I'm not. I'm Felicia. So, Felicia, she's our economic development contact for Appalachian Power. So, whenever businesses need to far about additional power needs, she covers a big territory. Are you all Virginia for anything? I live Virginia in Tennessee. Yeah. So, I was my previous brother, we'll see who got Mark here, we've got of course with the town in the PSA, as this division is quite a few times in for structure utilities, our important part of that movement development. We see James got the staff here, Rebecca is here with the chamber, and the town's tumor, so, and there's of course many other people that just, you know, could make it to Superon on Monday night. I was just kind of one of the illustrator well of economic development, how every one of these people plays a role in helping our existing businesses and in recruiting new businesses. All right, so, you heard from London, so that's the regional aspect of it. And I'm very fortunate, and she did make a mention there that it was an actual God because again, I was going to a VAD mode meeting and then I started in with the Virginia Rule leadership cohort. And that's when I started meeting these other economic development directors and those who had economic development, directors and tourism in that title. And then you correspond with them when the opportunity presented itself to me it seemed like a no brain. So again that's why we are where we are now. In that particular meeting a negative chance of meatlinda and as you can see a wealth of knowledge, a lot of things that we're going on. We'd already been advertising in and market. We couldn't add in it. We've got a pick that has came up to visit. That was down to visit, Cesar. So we already had some of those little relationships already being built around it, even before I had this opportunity to meet Linda. But that being said, some of the slides that you're going to see here may be a little redundant but we're going to take it more from a Patrick County side. So again, Patrick County, in case nobody hasn't heard this before, what makes us so unique is not just the courthouse, but we all be only Patrick County in the entire world. When you come in from a market standpoint, that's very important for us. And we like that. We like that, you know, extrocibility, you may say. So we push that, the team that she just mentioned, we do, just say, we do an excellent job at what we're doing thus far. But we want to continue to do that. It's like our magazine. Yes, we went awards for it, but when it comes up to the next year, you've got to increase it to do better And that's what we're wanting to do. We're wanting to be able to do that. Thanks a lot So again, this is our history. I won't have to take the time to read it now But normally you'll see we're very very unique. We were all One state broke. I mean all one area kind of broke up into it. Again, George Washington is thinking to have possibly have been here before it was back to County. And we're going to play on all of those uniqueness that we have here. Well, if you're reading our local news paper, you heard Woody. Beverly Woody gives a lot of the history of the County. Yes, the town store is named at the J.F. store. We do build upon that history as well too and there's a lot of things that we're building on in a tourism sector and to let this point when you have these CEO who should maybe look in for those places to put those jobs we got to have the total package. So again our location Patrick Kent all right 60 minutes west of Danville 90 minutes south of Toronto 80 minutes north of Greensboro 80 minutes north of Greensboro, 75 minutes north of Winsonssela. That's a give a take of you. You can go high-pass you, run it down the road, and which way you take. But again, look at the centralness of where we are. And we've got to realize in a stand two, two, again, let this point, these boundaries need to be blurred. We need to also be thinking about what we can do to track our North Carolina people up with us, our neighbors in North Carolina, not just in Danville, not just in Romeau, not just in Wilville, but looking at those boundaries. You've heard me mention in a time spas and we've got a moonshine heritage trail that we're working on called Mountain Screeze. That's Floyd, Franklin, and Patrick can't be working together. So we're starting to build those little relationships with these other communities. We just want to take it to another level when it comes to economic development. Next slide, please. So again, may the employees of Patrick can't. All right, this is a cluster of all of them throughout. Again, these are the ones that we want to gain. I need to get out and we'll get out to visit all of the manufacturers, making sure that we're meeting their needs, making sure that we're taking care of what we already have here in the county. And again, economic development, yes, we need to take a look at some type of public and seems, but as I get a better understanding of those processes and things to do, again, working with Linda in the crew there, learning a lot of it, gleaming again from Beth, we'll come up with some more incentive packages. We're not trying to do that the night, but again, take a look at what we offer here, very diverse in what we have here, which products, maxes, Nancy's candy. She ships all over the United States, does a phenomenal job. And all those things, 10 Oaks who has abilities to do processes and no one else can do in the entire world. They've already got it patent on it. And so all of these people play an intricate part in making Patrick Candy, Patrick Candy. And yes, we want to make sure that they're being taken care of. Next slide. So again, talking about transportation. I don't know if this is on our full-thought, but again, we're very fortunate to have 58 that is going to be widening to take us eventually to Heelsville, before laying highways, beneath the six interstakes, or then hours drive. That will help us out as we are trying to attract these businesses because they can get their product to different destinations that they want. Again, the deepest harbor 50 feet inbound outbound channels, largest crane on the east coast. They actually had to call that crane out when they had the big bridge collapse. So we haven't parked it out of backyard. Basically, yes, there's a little ways up the road but again, when we're looking at employers or when we're looking at people to come here to bring their businesses, this is the package that they need to see that they will have access to get their products to their distributors. All right, we've already talked about menstrual corporate pork. Again, chair five, learning a lot about it. We are very fortunate that had that here. Yes, in my mindset, hopefully we can tap into the gas that runs there. Years ago, yes, I wish the Patrick County had a little bit more of a foresight, a little bit more of a thinking outside of box back then, because we should have already been typed into the gas line. But now now if we do, it may cost us right at a big end of dollars to do. But again, we can look at other avenues and resources that we may be able to do that and it doesn't always have to come out of your pocket because there can be some government funding for that. But that's things that I will be working on trying to get an understanding of. Again, the rich, Greek, corporate, fork site. And again, she talked about the pipeline. So as Linda said, we have a unified story that we will, again, tell those potential employers who come here next. All right. So we talk about our value here. What do we have here? So this is one of the properties too, is on popular roads right there near as well. This is again an area too, that we can take a look at in New Bill. So yes, it's been on the market for about two years, we see the list price. So what that's asked me to do, and also listen what G and Danny is that we will take a look at all of the different properties whether it's a standalone timber or if it's buildings. Some of the buildings and things that we have right here in the town of school, some of the buildings that we have throughout the county that may be private or publicly owned, we need to get a list of that inventory and make sure that when we're selling this, that we can tell them. They may not like this particular property, but again, they may like this particular property, which is in page exchange as well. This has been on the market for about 13 years. All right. And again, it's at a tremendous location. What we need to do is, again, take a look at this property, revisit it, talk to the seller again. You never know what might have changed. So again, that's some of the assets that Patrick County has that we do need to be thinking about. Not just as more supervised, not just as an ADA, but a collective thing of, you know, Ron like to go would mention to nobody, he may not sell it, but again, Harold make them and say, well, you know, yes, I like Harold, I'll sell it profit. So we're gonna use those little techniques for you. So again, this is the property that's in downtown school, we know that they're doing revitalization down there, so hopefully this again will continue to grow, but it's still some properties that we can develop. And so I'll have to move. So again, another property here, Route 58 Mark Form Road Property. Nice crystal property there. I think we've got to get water. We've got water and sewer there, but again, that's in a good crime location too. I will let everyone in here to know that we have been doing a hotel feasibility study. Very excited, very confident, the lindages made that they are looking to bring more into this area and just region. So we don't know what may transpire out of that. But this could be a good property here, possibly for a hotel. So there's a lot of things that's going on in the slide. So again, this is a piece of property that was in the files of Laura Court. It hasn't been listed for quite a while. But again, is this another area that maybe blamed up this won't necessarily now this time? Has he thought about it anymore? So I'm going to be calling up villagers. I'm going to be calling calling those who have this property and have these things and just see where they stay in that mail. So again, we have a lot of assets in this county that we can grow on and build from. That's just a satellite view of it too. Yes, it's located near Surreal Richard School behind some residential homes, but again, maybe housing can go in there. Maybe we can entice them to maybe do some things there to maybe go in and put housing in. We are very fortunate, we're gonna have a housing complex, that's gonna be coming in into downtown stores, that is not gonna take away all of our need for housing, but hopefully we'll help all set some of it. I see things lining up just perfect. I see us getting a new industry in here, having housing to put some of them up, but you've got to have a vision. That's the most important thing on all of you all to help with is a vision. Because if you don't have a vision, you're going to be just walking around blind and we need to make sure that we are putting those things in place to help us grow. Next slide, please. So again, quality of life. This is one of the biggest seven forms that we have in the county, how quality of life. Yes, you see, Primland, if anyone in this room is very fortunate to say that they stay up there more than twice a year, well. Well, glad for you. OK. But we know that pre-Mland has a certain need, a certain fine tale that they do cater to. We piggyback off of it. When he comes to tourism, yes, I do consider him to be our golden child, beyond any shout-out. Shout-out without. But, like Linda said, when they come into the island, the race is going on in Danville or Health Act County, they're coming right throughout County in a Black Mercedes being. So I've been trying to talk with the the the manager there and we need to could start putting some information inside of that van. Let them know if they desire to come off of the property at Kremlin, look it what surrounds you. Okay? That's important to understand. We were just talking today, the congressmen office today, and the new place that they have built out in Blue Ridge, the little entertainment place out there called Red Rooster. Well, she told us today that she's had several people visit her site that was from Primland. They bought the kids down to Ryder. So we're working on those connections. We're working on those things as well too. So it takes, it's going to take a village to help us to grow next. So again, Patrick County Public Schools, eight county schools, six elementary schools, one primary, one high school, right, nine, and in 2023, 2024. So again, she's already indicated. We have the educational backgrounds, those things in place now to wear worse. Ultimately and hopefully, we can quit saying they graduate and leave. We need to put things in place now. To warn our kids comes out of the high school with the education that they have it now. We may have those places in here to what if they can stay. All of the technology and all of the things that they have born on the Danville, down at the hall of the Intermediate Hub that they have down there, and the lenses already, so it's not to be too redundant. We can actually again, maybe attract those businesses that we like to put here in this county where they don't have to travel so far again going back. So there's a lot of things in place, thank you. So again, day way to the Blue Ridge Parkway. Own average 10,000 people visit the Blue Ridge Parkway per month through 4 or 58. 10,000 vehicles. But we need to do again, just make sure that we have things in place to attract them all of 58. Once they get onto the Blue Ridge Parkway, again, north, south, they can go a lot of different places. But this is a key asset for us, the Blue Ridge Parkway, again, North South, they can go a lot of different places. But this is a key asset for us, the Blue Ridge Parkway. Yes, we know that Mayberry Mill, he and himself is in Floyd, but we do still claim it. Because they end up parking a lot down on our property, oil tanks again. We don't get to tax equipment, but we still promote it. The Appalachians not there for a day. They do an outstanding job at Villa Appalachian. We get a lot of people to visit the business soon that loves that particular place. So again, the Vlurys Park, what next slide? Then again, Kremlin, again. What would you stay on the site or if you just go up for day visits? We can build off of that. We need to make sure that we are being good partners with them. We need to make sure that if they are needing something that we're not the last ones to know and then a lot of things get started, stay up close to them. Make sure that we do honor them and understand what they may need and help them to grow. So see, again, the Blue Ridge Parkway, a lot of assets on that. Lovis Leaple will look. It's amazing how many people in comments we get from that. Even under construction, we know that yes, the construction has changed a lot of things between here and Medes of Anne, but I look at it in the long term. The views that they have there. I was talking with Danny Smith, I'll share it. Didn't know that he was so passionate about topography and about all of turn the views that they have there. I was talking with Danny Smith about sharing. I didn't know that he was so passionate about topography and about all the different places, but the different views you can have, almost seven different counties you can see from certain areas right off the fifth date when you do it. We're going to sell that. We're going to sell it. Now I don't want you to tourism front, but we can entice them when they say yes, I would love to have my facility in Patrick County because I've got everything they need there. If I want to go outside on my back porch and just chill like I can do that. But if I want to drive one hour to Danville to go place and casino like I can do that, I can come back home to Patrick County. That's the way we're going. We're brothers and sisters. We're always running team and NASCAR. Yes, hopefully they get their hundredth wind this year. I'm hoping that they do, but if they don't, maybe next year. But again, we have a lot of people that go up and visit that. We're working on getting the other people to get the home state. I'm hoping that they do, but if they don't, maybe next year. But again, we have a lot of people that goes up and visit that. We're working on getting the other museum up and going as well too. That can be an economic driver for us also. We have a state recognized museum in our county. What brothers has recognized in it too, through the state chart? But our motor sports museum is another key asset that we are working on eventually. And so again, firestone state park. You know I actually talked to somebody last year that grew up in Patrick County and never been the firestone state park. And they were in their 50s. If we don't know what we have, then it's going to be hard for us to sell it. So we just tell everybody about it. How many people in here has been very strong? I don't know if they've been in Rome. But you had been in Rome. They need a work session in Rome. You know why? It makes life really good. Okay, this again is just a couple of quick highlights on some of the activities. Again, the living history out here, Rock Castle Rourge. Again, it's amazing how many people will go and look at Jack's Creek covered bridge. You would think it's just a bridge that's sitting there, nowhere. But we get countless numbers of people who just go to that bridge for very different things. And again, the Willisis gap community that does something every weekend some fly will make use. So again I'm going to turn it over to Liz Popeye but again along with you all to understand assets and things that we have here and I like this is because that's what I want to start off on. I want to start off on talking to everyone at once so that you kind of understand what we're going through. If you look at the history of EVA directors in the county it may not be the greatest but I'm preferably will be the last one but at least the next 20 years. Because I'm trying to retire with something. But we need your help. And it don't be passive about it. But speak of it. Let's work together. Let's craft a craft, a good vision for the county. Let's get as much low-hanging fruit as we can. But let's put the tools in the places, the initiatives in places now. So five years from now, Jonathan can say, hey, the class did graduated now. It's basically the Senate of State and Patrick County. It would be awesome to say. Then we can say 10 years from now, we can talk about the growth. Because again, it's about raising the standard of living for our citizens. That's what we're going to. No one likes taxes. But if we can get those industries in here who has that tremendous tax base because it's all about the money, that's how we're going to keep everything on and up and up and we're going to grow. All right. My bill was always open. I'll go up at two. It's always open. If I'm not in one one I'll be at the other. Visitor center or here at the administration building. But again, we need your input. We need your ideas. And most of all, we need your support. All right, thank you. I don't know, but you guys, but I'm moving Patrick County. I just don't take a lot of taxes because I'm a virtual business. It's pretty impressive to listen to the sense of the region and the assets and the region and to see the digital and the everything that you people talk about. All this ingredients that if you work with the right create economic value here in the civil world, then it's also really interesting to see the Hadoos, to see lemonade, to see France, you can't get good debt and change, invite them. These are not just, these are exceptional professionals who, again, if they understand your vision, they know how to plug in their piece of the pie to help you succeed. So that's why this is also important. I do want to thank England X and two slides, have they? Yeah. I do want to thank Beth for having had the confidence in myself and being good to work with your team. Beth reached out to me like Elizabeth Eagerge, as a fairly new leader and you do a chemistry role. And she really said the first thing, I love this county. This county is really unique, it's different than all the other counties in Virginia. I here that have thought that 44 years of experience, not 34 years of experience in Virginia, and everybody thinks they're unique. You've got a county administrator who believes it in her heart. And he said, I need my team members, particularly the economic film director and the tourism director, to learn a little bit of how to hear the emphasis in the economic development program, which we would come in and help mentor them. So as you can see, everywhere we were contracted to provide mentorship to James and to your previous director of economic development. That was supposed to include one of one sessions. We assigned homework, had to even do the sessions and asked eight directors to start to create one year action plans for their departments. Both to help them were fairly new to their roles. Come March, personnel changes. So as I talked, we decided we wanted to continue the mentorship sessions for six months, as a six month project. And we would also, as we're the only one in public left, we would substitute a review of your current incentive programs. You have seven incentive programs. So we would review those in case of recommendation about importance. So that was our contract initially. Next slide, please. Whoops, back one. Is that my showing? That is real bad. That's strange. Okay, this is an outcome slide. So the bullets represent are the things we have done. And I'll just say it into your external fleet as I put this in this. We had one person session with the EDA earlier this screen. We had six mentoring sessions, virtual mentoring sessions with your Seattle first. We had one full day on site, community visit, where your economic development director and James posed David and myself as if we were business prospect and they provided a huge agenda, rubbing down by the hour, that was so comprehensive of Patrick County. He was amazing. What I walked away with is a different view of your educational system, a different view of your existing businesses who are at Spinewood with your 50 businesses so rich in really internationally at boarded companies that are here. Amazing, I never knew that. And your challenge is as it really gets a site development, which is really hard because you can cut them out in this area. But even more came a way with clarity about the timing for you all to really think of how to envision a strategy. It just looked like it felt like a lot of people wanted to move forward in this arena. Okay, now the next slide. So, today we're just in some findings to you all. Aren't that step after this meeting will be prepared really highly, will report, report to the end of James, summarizing again what we're going to present to you here today, but also giving you a timeline for some of the recommendations that they can. Oh yeah, just close it, sorry about that maybe. So I'll start to find things. Good for me to get to the recommendations first. You heard Linda, you heard her game talk about partnerships being important. If you will think about the years in a machine, which hopefully you can get that's life. There, perfect for me. This is really a good visual for understanding how to do your fact, not make the development program. Business is at the center. It's all about serving business, making it easy for business leaders to make decisions. Those are your partners, state, region, locality, and unprofitment organizations. If any of those speakers get jammed with miscommunication, with different goals, with a lack of oil, to make the work together, the business doesn't insert. So once you think about how does it be for any commission? How does the gate dwell system? How does the community college? How does a member of the library work? How does the Linda's group as the R.A.? How does your tourism, the college recovery, how does these all fit here? And how do you keep those levers moving and uplifting the J-Hum? Next slide please. Okay. So here's the other unquietly-forknourished shifts. You guys are the local economic development. What you see in the blue box is those local regional and state economic development organizations. What you see in white boxes are the spaces that are typically led by that entity. So let me explain, local economic development far left. Typically, localities make decisions about real estate development for businesses. Typically, localities are responsible for the early education system, get 12. Typically, your response will for making sure businesses that you have here are happy here. How do you keep them here? The regional economic development organization, Linda's organization, there are 17 of them in Virginia. Typically, that's a lot of information on workforce. And you saw a wonderful data that she presented about workforce. Typically they are your higher education. Typically they talk about supply chains. Linda mentioned that the big site in the Henry County, if that site lands in HR, manufacturer, she talked about the supply chain that's going to be needed. Patrick Gowney could be a location for a supplier. And then this state level typically, this data is responsible for making sure Virginia is always CNBC's top state for business. That these state business, I meant going to write the work that is maintained. That's a policy about business, our business friendly. This date also has funding resources as the federal government. So when you think about your decision making process, ready eyes, that you're probably wisest to focus on those things that you really can control. You cannot control state tax policy, but even though somebody's working on it, you can have a perfect decision about sites and land and property or water and sewer. Those kinds of things. Next button. So, well, what we're not going to talk about tonight is who's on first me, Patrick Gammion. You saw the partnership's eyes. But what's the role of the partners here in this county? What's the role of EEPA? How does that differ and the role of the Board of Supervisors? How does that differ and the issue is about these. But it's critical that you think about all the types and properties who can have decision-making authority or influence or funding or missions that either support or air adverse to your economic development vision. You got to think about that. Good to change this point from a while ago. I'll be either in the Westwood part of the campaign, maybe hear something about the Eastern part. And that telephone to your e-conversation makes a competition. When an actualality, there might be more connectivity than their discounted vision. You will have the ability to be clear about who you want to be when you grow up and what the role of all these organizations is. I've been in mind as well. Tonight is not as a instead tonight is not about taking decisions on some of the recommendations we're going to make. My partner David Dan A.D. in the Sposed States, comes to present or categories of recommendations that we're making with 18 actions. We look at two years time span. You have of how many people in your department? James? Martin O. Three people in your department. James? Martin, I don't know. Three people in his department. Four capitals, 18 actions. All of which are complicated. So he needs your help to help focus time, resources, energy, staff support. So you kind of think about that. You may look at some of these recommendations and say, walk away. Or get some and say that's a really good idea. Or you may look at this and say, hey, you missed this whole category. Let's talk about that. So our goal is when they present these recommendations to you after we're done, patterns of the facililities, you may change the Facilitate A conversation out where you think you want to go to help you I'm keeping it safe, plants is work It makes sense Perfect David, anything Can you introduce yourself inside of that? I would just say I work for Browne, I think here's now. I would say that. But he is his business experience. I have very good business experience. His business experience brings a wealth of perspective to any kind of discussions like this. Because he sees things you have different eyes. He is also a publisher of occasion but mostly business time. Well thank you for the let me come in and I wanted to thank Liz under-painfully for letting me be part of the team and the pleasure of working together for many years and I always love working with this co-vare and it ups my game in that way and I want to thank I really want to thank Beth and James for working with me. He has also, we've been, a great help. We've been able to meet with the ADA and have conversations with the ADA. We've had conversations with companies, we've had conversations with high school, we've talked to other stakeholders. I have to say that I think as a consultant, you have to get earned your benefit as a color of benefities in your Greek. I didn't just ride in on a horse with a briefcase, and we'll take all your money and run away. And I don't have anything about your area. I'll tell you this. I grew up in the amble. And we went on vacation. we didn't go to Paris, we didn't go to Istanbul, we didn't go any of those places. We got on 58 and we came up to Patrick County. We came up to Maverick's Mill. I grew up on molasses and apple butter, every fall at Maverick's Mill. And we looked at it, I looked at it at that time as a kid. All I wanted to do was get on the Dan River Queen and ride a little bit. But the refreshing to come back and actually see how you can tell you from a business perspective, from the economic development perspective. And so it's been very refreshing and learned and awful lot that I didn't know before and I think you've got a lot of great assets which everyone's talking about so I won't go down that road. The thing that really jumped out of me though was the high school. I was blown away by the high school women in the career training programs that were there. I was so impressed when we went into, well back in my day at the college shop class, we went in there where they were building things and Percent of some tables at the students and make my gosh, they're beautiful So I ordered one as they kind of ordered one and saw what it was side table and I Didn't know what I was gonna get but I drove up from Durham and I came in and I picked it up And then I went up to Stanton, Virginia and it now lives in my daughter's apartment She got a job with JMU, she was living into a new apartment, and it's in a hundred place next to her chair where Kat sits and she reads everything. So it's a little bit of Patrick County up in my daughter. Pardon? The slide is not coming up appropriately, they've got the slides. Okay, let's see. Okay, let's help you with a minute. So, as I already said, what we hope tonight is this is just the beginning of trying to develop a long term vision and trying to get established groups like yourself with lots of different stakeholders all working together and trying to come up with these longer term visions and action items to be with it. And I think there's a big difference between having to walk in the lockstep. That means that two bodies are walking exactly the same versus in collaboration. And that's what we're really looking for. It's a collaboration to come up with a vision, not necessarily working in a lockstep. The recommendations that we have, we've tried to be cognizant of the fact that, you know, you can get overwhelmed with too many things to tackle, you can get overwhelmed with too many complex things to tackle. So what we wanted to do was to recommend some very meaningful things that could be done in tackle, but things that are low-annually fruit for lack of a borrower. So the first category we have are economic development operations and I'll just give you a little commentary you can read these things and come and read better and I do. But it's a complete EDA bylaws. The bylaws really are a guideline. How do we operate? How do we conduct our business? Maybe one or some of our goals is extremely important to have those by-laws finish and implement it. Redesign and implement the organization structure of economic development tourism. And I'm recently working on a project that didn't realize how many economic development organizations in smaller areas, rural areas, actually are economic development tourism. So there's plenty of great models out there to help with your structure, but it needs to be organized organizationally restructured or structured to take both of those components of economic development and implement properly. Ensure alignment, division, and goals, and more supervisors, and that's where I'm talking about collaboration, not lockstep, DDA ADA and the board of supervisors in particular, and there are other groups too, but we need to have whatever comes out of all of this to be a vision that you create and can buy into two bodies and is one body. Next slide, please. On the bench, this retention side, and you know, correctly wrong, all you even have to develop is out there, because you know, it's tried and true. We're kind of a thing that we go on for years at 80, 20 rule. Business retention in expansion, 80% of your jobs come from existing businesses in expand, or maybe they bring another division from their own company in. But that's in 20% from new business, new attraction. So you've got some great companies here. Need to work hard to keep them here, keep them thriving, and create war jobs through their growth. So we recommend they track all the open projects and close out at the end of the performance period. If there's incentives that have been given or other things that performance items that need to be completed, we need to track those all the way down and then see what's next to help them out. And the developer strategy to begin to have a structured business or a tech program. That's the call to local companies as well as their headquarters. It's really interesting. I'm going to be in Quebec City, Canada, just before Christmas. And that's where headquarters is for the flooring company here. So I'll say hi, yo. But I'm a firm believer that if you don't have a structure and written plan, it's easy to drift on anything that you do. And so I think it's important that you do have a structure plan that the business retention gets slightly. This is a whole mouthful. Okay, but this is all about product development. You've heard a lot about the importance of product. If you're a company, there's a lot of factors you want to know. Usually workforces at the top. Product is at the top. Those are the two things that really trip the trigger a lot of companies that are looking for location, force of product. Products of sites and buildings. So our recommendations on the sites and product development is, you know we've talked about maverage mill I've talked about it with this 58 project when it's completed. That's going to be, I mean it's already a gateway in the Patrick County but this is going to be a phenomenal gateway in the Patrick County. You've already got the Martinsville side of 58. You've got a new gateway coming in and up, and it doesn't get any way to come back. There needs to be, in our opinion, there needs to be a master plan to include metals in hand and maveries mill, master plan is just like a set of strategic plan or anything else. It's a vision and the stakeholder input on that is key because people have companies who live in that area. It's key that they have their input, which created vision and make it even more attractive to bring more people off the parkway and over the mountain from their state 40. Rich Creek, a complete landscaping and upgrade from utility capacities, look into a water tank and a gas tank. Got a great gas line across the road, look at the tanking that in. And review the recommendations. I do very good. I report about tier 5 certification. I've let them mention the tiering system we have in Virginia. Tier 5 is the top of that, but there's always little things that you can do, really. And enhance that tier 5 so companies are of that, but there's always little things that you can do really. Hence that tier 5 is what companies just ready to come in. Bart and Farron Property created development strategy again. Have a plan of attack. How are you going to develop? It's a long game developing property. It takes five years. Have a five year plan. Can you continue to plan? How are you going to step wise through this and tap into all the resources that are in Grant Lundsh, the EDA from Virginia Missy, ready site program from Gover, Virginia, or whoever to help you with that heavy limb. Cockroof mills needs to be closed out of the existing project deliverables. Hospital site, and that's a big question that's been a big issue obviously, will work with the current owner, the fun attendant, or maybe the new owner that can fund some needs with that building that would fit your needs. And try to turn that valuable piece of property building into something. I mean, what they did come from my mind. I actually worked for Bradford University for about two years under contract. It was the first contract I had as a consultant. I ran their international trade center. Well they had an old psychiatric hospital and I ended up there. The psychiatric hospital called St. Aldons was donated to Rampford and that was not all of this was in one of the rooms. And so every room had a bathroom. You could lock the doors on the inside or inside. But it was a great repurpose of a building that you wouldn't think about repurposing that way. So that's an important piece. Small business, ain't you better at incubator? I think there's a location for that that's already picked out. There may be some movement on that. That's a critical bit because if you can grow businesses in place, keep them happy. You've started an incubator. Eventually they're going to hire more people. They're going to grow them out more people. They'll have more people. So, to make them happy, this is even better. And create them and maintain a list of available products. You know, you've got your main pieces. You want to go through a lot of money in, but you always need to have a bench. You always need to have some inventory back pockets and you need to know where they are. And there are a lot of creative ways to acquire property without just writing a check and saying here you go, which can't be explored also. And then finally design and solicit a hotel market study. I think that is critical. Very critical. Next slide please. On the Toolkit for Economic Development, we've got the enterprise zone, and I know you've got an enterprise zone, but if you say that it's up for renewal, there's been some recent legislation. I think the governor automatically is going to extend another four years. Don't quote me on this. But if there's some extension involved, it makes it easier to keep that going. And I got the company. Well, they ran in the enterprise. They really didn't know how to use enterprise, but benefit it really from. But they got grant money to do a development of a new building that they had. What really got me was they had job creation credits. So they start up on the base here and every time they create another new job, another new job every year you get cash money for every job you create and it's easy to get. You just have to jump through a few hoops but it's not numbers. So that's just two components of the enterprise own program that may go under you laws and it's a great asset to be able to talk to companies and have them come in. The vote of Hacker County and Senate philosophy and update revised the existing incentive program. I think Liz is going to have, you know, a public incentive would just have it in the report. But it'll be in the report about incentives. You know, it's the old adage that you don't start a conversation with a Senate. The incentives are just a cherry on the top of the cupcake. So, you know, but you've got to have them thought through because if you don't think of through and have a philosophy about how you're going to apply a Senate, it's just like, we want them to come and just let's give them that. Let's give them that, let's give them that. And maybe it's not always about giving, it evidence about what you're getting also. And making sure that they fit in with your needs with the community. Look at the benefits of developing a tourism zone. And there was just a webinar from Chimuro, I don't know if you guys have heard it from earlier before. But they did a webinar on tourism development and reports of each time we're developing. It was on Iowir for me. And they've got some thing, I think it's called a tourism improvement zone district, I believe it is. There are not that many of them in Virginia, but the ones that we have are very successful. And it's a way to get dollars into a development program to develop assets, to improve your tourism. So that's just one way of looking. And also a part of that is just the tourism zone. Develop a budget and a business plan for the EDA. Kind of goes hand in hand with the bylaws. You get the bylaws. Let's go ahead and have a good business plan with a budget that's funded and how you spend your money. And I think, you know, we've talked about a lot of different things that need to be done. A good strategic economic development action plan can do almost all of that in one belt suit. It covers all your bases. It's heavy on stakeholder input. What should, what you should come out of that with is an action plan. An action plan that lays out over five years. Here's our goals. Here's the actions we need to take. Here are those responsible. This is what we want to get done. And it's an invaluable tool for your staff to be able to say, you know what you got to prove. Look at this, okay, this month, I've got to do this here. I've got to do this next year I've got to do this over three years I got to do this and before you know it you're wearing one of these kind of validity that's all absolutely thank you all very much thank you thank you so the last thing moves say or we turn over to James at the end of the day these are ideas these are our recommendations for his Davis ends from low-aging for your actions. Some of them may make sense to you, some of them may not, but you can use it as a starting point for your conversation. The critical element over the next two to three months is ensuring that your mission is clear, your goals are clear, and the fairs alignment among these few two-body, two-coverting bodies, really important. We'll present our report that June 10, and Jane, hopefully within the next 10 days, the Fed reports, and from there, it's the actions we take a few if the strategic decisions. So we thank you for having the answer questions. But at this point, I think James, this is your time for really getting what you're on and which is in the hood. So I know we've had a lot tonight. I think everybody can say you may not have it. But really, what we're looking for again is if you do have something that's burning down on your mind, then I'm not actually, she's going to be my scribe just to write down some of those things. But again, as she had indicated, we're going to be getting a report from them too on what we have been doing. This isn't just something that we just cooked up and out, bringing to do just for the night. But as she said, I've been into mentorship program for some time now. Taking other classes and I've got some other things classes I've been going to at then this month as well too. But in the presentation that you've heard, you see it again, she said, we've got a lot of our outstanding stakeholders here. Do you all have something right off the github that you would just like to say? Number one thing that you'd like to see me jump on. Speaking that and if not, send me an email. But that's what we're here for. Let me ask you this. I'm kind of sort of like a teacher too. I used to teach at the college school. Did you all get anything out of it first and foremost? All right. Did you see the work that we have to get done and hear in the county? All right. And I think, again, from this particular meeting, and I'm not saying anything against any of the economic developments, but the ones that I have talked to, this is one of the things that they say that they would have looked at as well too, because sometimes they just didn't get the direction that they thought they may have needed at that time. I know what I need, and I'm not saying I'm the smartest cookie in the bunch. You know, I did have a pretty good GPA coming from Avery, but I believe from you all. But I know I can do a job, but I also want to make sure that I'm doing it. I'm not going to do everything you ask me to do because it really doesn't make a lot of sense. We, you know, it may not. But I won't, like I was talking with the gentleman today, we need that, you know, and the facts. Not hearsay, not, you know, just want to be because that's what we want, but what can we do? And if something really jumps out your mind, this takes us to takes this opportunity. Number one, we need infrastructure. Everybody pretty much agree with that? Increasing our soul, water, to the properties and things of the act. We need to work closer with our CT program, glad to trade talks is here with us at the high school. Jason, we're open up to building. Making sure that we are looking at what he is, for lack of better words, producing through the CPC program. And maybe we can get businesses that may say that in the year of 2026, who are going to graduate X-Mount of welders or some other technical job, maybe they can actually start to go out and look and see how we can facilitate the business because we may have a workforce in place of all them to do. So we're going to take about five minutes. Y'all ready? I'm ready. Let's go. What's your thoughts? First of all, particularly death, being with my background, the highly function organization, operational thing we've been talking about tonight, I think that we have been in 20 plus 30 years in the making, and so this is exactly what I feel that we need. So for starters, there are certain elements in every community or certain elements that businesses look for that make a community attractive. And I know there's a list, you know, everything from recreation to housing to unemployment rates and all that kind of thing. So I would like to see us for lack of better terminology. Do some sort of SWOT analysis with those things? So what are our strengths and what are our weaknesses and then come up with a plan to improve those weaknesses. And then those strengths, that's key points to help market the county as a place of business because we've got everything in front of us and listed everything out. You already kind of touched on the retention plan. I know the Chamber of Commerce has done some good stuff when it comes to retention, but I would like to have a way or that plan to recognize, appreciate and celebrate all of our businesses in the county. You know, even if it means something that, you know, each month as a business reaches a milestone or something, let's bring that certificate in front of the board so that a board meeting, we can recognize them, present a certificate of appreciation or just that recognition because as a business looks at relocating or expanding and they're looking at Patrick County, they of course you do your homework and look at the news. And you see, hey, county celebrates local business, milestone or something, and that creates that positive environment that they would want to be in. And that's how it's kind of like too. And we just start. Thank you for being done, Tom. And I've heard several people say that, the only time they hear from the county is tax time. They come around looking for those taxes, right? So this is the place where we change that to where we recognize and celebrate our businesses and let them know just how important they are to it. So, this is the two big things on my. She said we used to do that. Oh, you know, I've had a lot of work for the Canada for years. Yeah, probably in the first 10 or 15 years I worked for the Canada. They did this. They brought a business in each month. And the board would recognize, you know, something that they had done, maybe they'd hired 10 more people. Maybe they have put in something also with community college. When the community college would add a new program, we would bring that director over and recognize that program being done. It was really a buildup. So about a better communication on the victories of a witness that we have on the regular occasion period. I agree with a lot of things Doug said. His observations on this. The first thing that I wrote down during Linda's presentation, she was talking about all the good things, all the positives for this county. But like Doug said, we've got to recognize our weaknesses She was talking about all the good things, all the positives for this county. But like Doug said, we've got to recognize our weaknesses and acknowledge those and work to fix those, correct them. You know, the weaknesses, you can have all the good things in the world. You can have what weakness you still key in. And we got to make sure that that does not happen. Ron, do you want, let me ask you this. Yeah. What would you think our weaknesses would be? You mean one just right away. Education. What's that? Education. You think I educate the system as well? I'm not saying the education system. Just education. Education. I'll take my model. Yes. Okay. Yeah, man, I'm very my money. Yes, okay. Okay. Yeah, ma'am, ma'am, I'm very quickly addressed that. Yeah. I appreciate your great mention that I've run out of, well, I think it was speaking out of full depth some data that we use in Patrick County Education Foundation. You all know that the public school system here is in phenomenal. The all-in-time high school graduation rate in Virginia is 89% in Patrick County as of 2023. It's 93%, which ranks among the top 10 in Virginia and one of the highest in the country. The flip side is the post high school credential attainment rate, which is the percent of student or the population who has something beyond high school. And that is where we struggle, frankly. In the national rate, as of 2023 is 53.7% in Virginia, it's 59% in Patrick County, it's 28%. The reality is for decades, citizens in Patrick County could get a good paying job without something beyond high school, but those days are over, you all well know that, and that's one of the reasons Patrick and Henry Community College in Conjuncts of Patrick County Education Foundation is those cifters, we're raising those dollars for the Patrick Promise so that we can provide that opportunity. Thank you so much. I would also say unemployment. So our unemployment rates, they're pretty low aren't they? And so business looking to come in and with need in 50 or 100 employees if our unemployment rate is low then that's not going to be a lot of people to choose from. And so, you know, identifying that maybe something we could counter that with is if we improve say the crates area or the air at area where they could also draw in from Henry County, Stokes County, Surrey County, Carroll County to increase the potential of employees that would have available. Doug, which is a set, the percentage is low. If you look at the actual number itself, if members serve from me correct, we've got 283 unemployed Patrick cannonsanians. It was the last report. It's not a whole lot of people choose from. And we've probably got, I would guess, at least half that number of available jobs in petricanians. Why they're not going after a job? I don't know. I think being not qualified baby part of it. The other reasons, you know, the thing. But yeah, it's right about the unemployment. There's not a whole lot to choose from out there. We've got a lot of people going to Patrick Canne. I mean, going outside of Patrick Canne. And this was in the mid-70s. I was chairman of the United Way for Patrick Cannon. That's when United Last was going full steam. And all the plans were open, basketball curtain, and panel of the critics. Yeah. They were all going full steam ahead. The largest employer in Patrickra Canyon was Depart. They were traveling on a plane. And that has not changed. Do you have some issues with say I didn't think that you were involved with Iran? You used to clear someone who was in the business. You are not witnesses of what we, okay. Yeah, that's what we've got to identify and address. Well, in law, we're on that, I mean, of course, I have some time, but I don't think anybody else has any. Yeah, please do. And they better get it out. Like you said, you've got to recognize them. We've got to put a plane in place how to address them. Yeah. A few things that I've heard about the last few years and I agree with is and we've heard about it. I think three different times tonight. We have a natural gas line board I attached to it and yes, I'm not. It's going to cost money. But you know, there's no point in saying we have it. Just not attached to it. And I think that's something that might come back and have paid dividends in the future. The other thing I have, I'm sure everybody in the room is seeing that movie, you know, field of dreams, you know, they were coming. Well, the problem is there are a lot of things that are going to make people come here that we don't have. And this is some of the things that will not be missing. I believe my son's told us a couple months ago that the average house sale price last year in the county was $300 to $1,000 over $300,000. That I can afford that. I have a lot of people that are not working because we don't have day care in our camp. We have a lot of people that are not working because we don't have day care in our camp. We have a lot of people that are not working because we don't have daycare in our county to speak up. We have a couple of places, but you know there are a lot of parents that want to go back to work, but it's a lot, but all financially if they stay at home and raise one or two kids and it is to send them off to daycare and spend 90% of what they've been making on the daycare. So, you know, I believe that if we could bump up some of the family, I'm not going to say conveniences. I'm going to say the family necessities in our county, the housing, the medical facilities and the daycare of some type. You know, that would make us a lot more open to business is coming in here. I know I promised some people to live over on near stop 8 and they told me that they she had quit her job because she was thinking her kids to keep them to make it. That's a long drive and it was a whole better off financially for her to stay home. Well that's a perfectly good person who could be working your job that can't do it because of that one limit in fact. So that's some things and I think you know, a family creature comforts that would make us more appealing to businesses coming in especially bringing in more workers and making you better for our people that are here looking for jobs. John, you're absolutely right with all those observations. And fortunately, like Doug and I just said, we're working on some of those. And some things that David talked about in his 18 steps, some of those are already in process that we're working on. We just got to, sometimes you have to wait on third parties, and that is very forceful. But anybody else has something to do with this? I'd like to say this is a great opportunity. I'm glad we've had all these failures that give us a lot of good information. When it comes to infrastructure, that's one thing I would need to rather look at But it was the more usable for new businesses existing businesses You know, we need to talk to the community business people to see if they have any needs I know as the day and it had needs they were mentioned tonight We need to look at the whole county and see what we can do to help everybody. Three, three. I think something that we miss a lot of times, our family is a four year, maybe six generation farm family. So I think sometimes we forget why people do come to Pathc Canyon and think it's beautiful. It's beautiful because we have a lot of beautiful landscapes. I think it's important that we talk about how valuable that is to us. And how do we preserve that in the not-new site and the rush that get businesses which I think we absolutely need. They might want to place it here because it is beautiful and they can hike on the mountain. It might hike down by ferry stand every weekend's month. I guess I'd like to see us consider preservation of what we have with a good plan of our farms and our natural resources. And that's something that will come into play. You know, in the Plenty Commission, we update the comprehensive plan. And that's something that you can kind of, you choose to do investments, then you'll direct the growth of these areas. You don't want to have any here, but we want to preserve here. Bottasock County's been a great example of that. They've situated most of their growth along the 220 quarter or there, all bating one. And they preserved blue-gray and generalities other areas. So, I mean, there was a one that comes to mind for say, the, I, I, I, I, did my personal professional, he made a good balance. They've been able to bring in investment, but they, they've been able to preserve, like you said, the ag area of the scenic views, you know, that, you know, the, because they have far away, they go to them too. So that's something that the board, supervisors, the planning commission, commission, the E.A. to have input, you know, as we're talking about infrastructure, where you put the infrastructure in a determined what worries and what doesn't, to be quite honest. And so I'm glad to hear me. I mean, that's something that I think sometimes people hear, or we want to grow, or we want infrastructure, they think that means we're going to disrupt the whole county, but it doesn't have to do that way. Right. And I know it doesn't, but sometimes when you're thinking about your strengths and we just want to talk about that. That's what I'm saying, and why you mentioned it, because I think that is important to keep a balance. And I think the team that we have will, too, especially with the tourism advisory committee, especially Dylan and Lockworth Rebecca and the Chamber of Commerce and our conversations that we have, we want to grow it, but we definitely don't want to use the loose that Patrick can't feel to it. So those things like it will be very cognitive on our minds and we start to do those things all for in guidance. But again, the planning commission and all those other people too, put those in motion is what they do need here for us. So we got a lot of strengths we already recognized that. We know what some of our weaknesses are. Opportunity is always the growth. The biggest threat that we have I think here is really complacency with our own members of this community is that they get to a certain point where they're like, where is this past candy that's in? But we've got to get out of there. I think it's one we're speaking for. That's why I try to, you know, put a little bit more of a positive spin on the tourism talks, trying to highlight those things. But it's going to take you all as well too. You have to speak positive. You have to speak. We are succeeding. That may be some failures. Yes, that may be something. It comes out on the news that says, this project went under. But again, you take it, but you always try to put a pit positive spin on it. And to those points, when we get a spot analysis done, and fine, tune it, you'll see that. But you all, again, are the voices too, that's going to help us to grow no matter how much our team tries to do it for most of the county. No matter how much Bell puts on me to get done. If you're not sitting there doing what we need you to do what you're doing, it's going to be fun not. But again, I'm glad for our community partners working well with Apache Community College all of them. Glad again the dischanglers here, she did an economic study not long ago with the Rural Sonski, and again, not saying it fell on deaf ears, but again, we're going to start from a little bit more bad too, working as a narrow path. So we've gotten a lot of the gene components in place. We just got to find tools and things and get them working even better than what they also have to be. All right? I'll wish this was something. Anybody else has anything else to say? Can I ask? Now, one question to the two of you. Anybody who wants to respond, I want you to envision your 10 years from now still living in Patrick County. What is one thing, what is one sentence you can say that describes to me that you have taken an act that they have succeeded, that has made Patrick County better? Just one thing they can be, hey, my shirt raised, I've been a best-known resident in the health community. I mean, they can be anything, but look ahead, 10 years. What do we better in Patrick County in 10 years? Don't think about money, just think about vision. One sentence. I think our health, not physical health but the overall health so when I say health County Health Rankings dot org right so you've got all those measures so I think I think right now Patrick County ranks 117 out of 134 counties in the state. So I would kinda like to see all those factors go up and Patrick County being the top third or top. Right. So all those elements coming together that make a total health community, which is kind of rolls everything that we've talked about tonight, it kind of rolls it up in a nutshell. I won't give you the sentence, but I'll give you some parts that what I think it should include. In 10 years, I would like for us to be able to open the enterprise or whatever media that we're looking at and see where people that have graduated from the high school recently or Patrick and Henry recently, how they are taking a role because we have businesses where they high school recently, or Patrick and Henry recently, how they are taking a role because we have businesses where they must stay yet, that they are starting their own businesses, that they're being successful in our counter because we've provided them the ways it means to be successful and stay here and contribute to our counter. Yeah. Any others? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah you are. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably. My final comment did I'm going to let them close us out. I want to thank all of you all. I know again sometimes the way things look at things, this is growth already. And again I'm very excited. And I'm going to be honest, I'm very excited too because, you know, Velt has really helped me, you know, grow also. And it can give it an opportunity. And I think we've done, I think the candidate is pretty good. Iron. But again, she's got a lot to continue to do. ADA has a lot to do. Tourism has a lot to do. The board of supervisors, ADA. All of those down here too, because we've got a lot of community partners too. Here, who help us? All of those down here too, because we got a lot of community partners too, here who help us. I could go and rent a room there in the stadium and I was met or I am meeting all of them and help. I don't mind asking questions, no matter how off the wall it may seem, I think that we're going to fit me because sometimes you can get caught up in a job thinking you know how to do that job and you're not willing to take advice from other people. You know, no matter who they are, had a long conversation in the day with the gentleman. They've been a lot of wisdom, you know, they've got a lot of things and that's what you learn from. But you take those little tick bits and you work out. So again, I'm just another serve for Pashcam, that's what we want to do is we want to grow it and hopefully in 10 years, you know, we'll be able to open up at New York's flavor and see because I would like for our kids to say my grandkids get ready to graduate. I love when I'm staying in Pashcam, but we've got to put those things in place. But again, to Derbysistmore I still want to be passed in. We ain't trying to be nobody else. All right, we handed conversation and I'll tell you even down in Rebecca I always finish. I like to be like Floyd. No, we don't want to be like Floyd. We want to be a better like that. So again, just keeping those things in mind. Very thankful, Linda, very educated, outstanding. It's just, I'm happy for everything that has transpired this far. And again, it's work. All right? At this time, I'm going to give a final conference and the young group is doing all this thing. And I don't do that. I'll just say thank you again to everybody and I'm missing people on the scale. I'm sorry. Chris, you have really here with Whiskey Wine and then Praethocks is back there and then Pervodemar, who's what you've mentioned. The plane information's come up quite a lot. You know, given in line, you know, everybody in line is going to spend a, you know, it's not going to happen overnight, but I mean, I think hopefully you'll work that we're all doing three four years now we'll look back and we'll all have a you know the same pack everybody's working their new engineers is gonna be important especially all I have I think we need to have what the E.A. adjourned and then the board can go into closed session only I just have one I over all sorry just didn't want to wait I'll give you my visit to all the partners for coming tonight and contributing. and Linda and David Liz look forward to getting all of her report in about 10 days and that way we can start digging into this even deeper. With that, I'll entertain a motion for the EDH with adjourned. Mr. Chairman, I make a motion with adjourned. Do I hear a second? How long have you seen seeing Bob saying that? No, both. We're staying the jury. Thank you all. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah. 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